March 17, 2022 • 30 mins
It’s time to get real on this episode of Calm Down! Erin opens up for the first time about the departure of her longtime Fox Sports colleagues, Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. Charissa explains why she embraces change in her life, and Erin admits it’s something she struggles with. Remember, don’t apologize for your emotions!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Calm Down with Aaron and Chrissa is a production of
I Heart Radio Season Change, People Change. There's a song
I need you to sing, end of the Road by
Boys to Men. That's the song that comes to mind
this week. Welcome everybody to the Calm Down Podcast. We
only have thirty minutes, and my voice is going out
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because I have been talking a lot about all the
ship that's happening this week in the NFL in the broadcast,
Oh my god, Lions and Tigers and bears, Oh my,
the Seahawks are gone forever. Aaron Rodgers is back in
Green Bay, Tom Brady is back on the field, and Aaron,
we have got to get you some men in the booth. Sister,
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where do you want to begin? I mean man ABC
uh yeah, I need all the men in the booth,
women in the booth, all the booth. How are we doing?
First of all, you're are you under the weather? What
do you got? You've got the hot delight love someone tonight.
This voice normally would be from one from parting, but
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it wasn't from parting the other one. It would be
as if I was getting sick, but I'm not sick.
COVID free you took a test yesterday. I've just had
this nagging cough that's now making me horse. But here
we are speaking of horses or Broncos Russell Wilson. It's
gonna be married to see him in the Uni, great Uni,
by the way, but gonna be weird to see him.
And you know, Go Broncos doesn't quite roll off the
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tongue like go Hawks does. But yeah, this has been
and what's he's gonna be? What's gonna be his thing
after instead of the Go Hawks? What is it? Go Broncos?
What is it? Broncos is two syllables? Hawks is one.
You've got to make it one syllable unless he says
getting out. But again, maybe it'll be let me see
you one two steps. I don't know. The possibilities are endless.
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It has been a crazy week, as everybody knows. The headlines.
Now Tom Brady is back in Tampa and we spoke
about it. If you guys haven't heard the pregame, it's
a little precursory conversation Aaron and I have prior to
doing the full podcast, but we was sort of dabbled
in the conversation over there on Tom Brady Aaron sent
me in all caps texts saying thank god after a
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week where she was involved in a lot of headlines.
As far as her teammates leaving the booth, we will
get to that in a second. But Tom Brady, let's
start with the positive here is coming back your one
word to sum up how you feel about this? Yeah,
that works. It's just good for football, it is. It's
good that he's back. I was gonna ask you this.
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We saw Jalen Ramsey's reaction and what he posted on
Instagram about you know, playing Tom and everything, and what
do you think other players thought? What do you think
They're one word reaction was when the news broke yesterday
that he was coming back. Well, well, I wish that
the news so I saw. I told you I saw
Julian Edelman the night before restaurant at a restaurant, and
then the next day the news came out that Brady
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was coming back. Well, we gotta get Jewels on the
show because Julian will have all kinds of comments about this.
But I would imagine players think one of two things.
His own teammates are like, let's fucking go, and then
any other guy that has to face him as like,
of course he's coming back, and I never thought he
was actually going to leave, and that you know, didn't
in that thing that he wrote on Instagram, he never
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said the word retire, which you know, you know him
way better than I do. And I just can't imagine
a guy like that going out when a he wasn't hurt,
he still had a team with a bunch of studs
offensively and defensively that he could build around. And now
this NFC is a little bit easier to get through,
and now get nothing's easy to get through in the NFL,
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of course, but that a f C and NFC is
a little bit more balanced now in terms of talent.
So I just can't imagine him leaving. But he's back,
and that's great for you who's on the field and
and covers him regularly and fabulous season. Yes please and
for three years go just go, let's go again. I am.
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I love it so much. You know, I'm still investing
because when you're forty three years old and you still
feel like you can do things, I mean, selfishly talking
about myself, it's fun to cover somebody that's older and
pushing the limits and surprising people and I'm just excited
for all the things you know that's going to happen.
I can't wait for another Rams Bucks matchup. Are we
gonna get Packers Bucks again? Like it's just good. It's
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good for football, good, good for the NFC. It was
when Tiger came back, and even like winning the Masters
in two thousand nine, wearing seeing that red polo on
a Sunday is good for golf and it's just number
twelve out on the field on Sunday is good for
the game of football. And this brings up the point
with everything that was happening in baseball be my dad
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and I were watching it a lot, with the you know,
holding out and the different you know negotiations and the
season being delayed and all that kind of stuff, And
then we turn over to NFL Network and that thing
is a mother machine. It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop.
The com middle thing over there, protect the shield. I mean,
my god, Roger Goodell to your earlier point in the pregame,
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like this is a machine. And every other sport needs
to take note of how this thing is always the headline,
even when it's their off season. Everything is a headline
in the way combine free agency. Then you know O
t A. Broadcasters leave broadcasters into it. You know what
I left me just not wait until the B block.
So big news. Okay, you want to know what I
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wanted to come on air with today, with the news
that my two broadcasters are like gone. There were two things.
There were two memes that was gonna send to you
this weekend. Oh or I was going to do that. Hello,
it's me. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're bringing levity
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levity to this situation for the last two weeks. I
know this has not been easy for you. For those
of you guys that are not familiar to Aikman and
Joe Buck have announced that they are moving over to
another network and leaving the booth. But what twenty years
for them in the booth together? Twenty years together. I
did ten seasons with them, a decade and we're talking about,
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you know, Russell leaving in Seattle. But this is the thing,
when you spend that much time with them, it's not
just about Sunday. It's not just about the games you
guys did on Thursday. It's you know, the pre production meetings,
it's the dinners, it's the plane rides, it's everything, and
they become your family. So how are you feeling? Be honest, um,
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so I was sad all week. You had to deal
with me the last two weeks. Um, this all happened fast,
This all happened. I wasn't expecting it. I'll be completely honest. Um,
I don't think a lot of people were. And you know,
I am known for being one tough cookie. I can
deal with a lot of things. I have dealt with
a lot of things. But when I had to speak
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to both of those guys separately, when they both you know,
had officially left, oh god, I cried. And I don't
think they I don't think they both expected that for me.
I'll cry right now. You said it perfectly. It's not
even about like, yes, it's about working the games with them,
But there are so many moments, like I told both
of them, I came to Fox to work with them. Um,
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I just thought it would be so cool to do
games with them. And you said it perfectly, like you,
I know these people sometimes better than I know my husband.
You are every Thanksgiving, I am with them past two
Christmas is. I've been with them. You know you are
on their planes you are at their house, you're you know,
they've listened to my fertility issues, they knew about my
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cancer issues. They we I've listened to them with their
daughters or you know, having their babies and things like that,
and it's just crazy. They literally become your family and
they at times are closer to you than your actual
blood family or your husband and anything like that. So
I have been sad. I am tired of being sad
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because I need to be a big girl and move on.
But I think this brings up another issue with me.
I look like, oh, yeah, I'm just not good with change.
I'm not and I understand, you know, I don't hold
it against anybody for leaving. Look, I left ESPN after
being there for eight years and came to Fox. But
like I said at the Pat Summer All Award, that
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was one of the best career moves I ever made.
And a lot of that had to do with, yes,
my crew, but my relationship with those two. They became
my brothers and they became my really best friends. So funny,
I'm sad, but I'm so happy for them. And yeah, whatever, guys,
seeing you cry makes me want to cry. Well, you know,
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there they mean a lot to Fox, and there are
a lot of the history and like you know, I
have a story for like every game, I mean everything,
and even we were talking about the NFC Championship two
years ago in Green Bay and you just know when
ship is clicking and it's going well, and you know,
we had this awesome matchup with Aaron and Tom and
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it was we were so freaking excited. The boys nailed
their head of course they always do, and then Ronaldi
dead his hit and then I go to do mine
and the sun came out and I referenced it was
talking about the cold temps. And then we went to
break and I just remember Choice saying, hey, can Tom
and Aaron hear me? And we said, yeah, we can
hear you, and he just said, you guys just nailed that.
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That was awesome. It was just things like that, you know,
and we've had a lot of good times. And yeah,
I'm shitty with change, Aaron. It's chemistry. And then the
thing you know you talked about, you know, closer to
them sometimes in your husband obviously that's not true, but
the idea of you spent sometimes, but this idea that
you know, it is family. And we've talked about it
at length. You know, you and I both gone through
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really shitty things in a lot of different ways, um
sometimes the same ways. But Fox is family and we
always talked about that. You even said that in your
speech at the past for except the past summer allward,
and you got emotional about it, And it's because it's
really hard. We've worked for other people, both you and I,
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and it's not the same. It's not the same anywhere else.
And you know, when those bad things have happened to us,
they that company has been there for us. And so
I am sorry that you're losing you know, your teammates
in the booth and also just your your friends. You
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and I both gone through really shitty things in a
lot of different ways. But Fox is family, and you
know when those bad things have happened to us, they
that company has been there for us. And so I
am sorry that you're losing you know, your teammates in
the booth and also just your your friends. But brings
up a larger issue. And you and I were talking
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about it before we even got on here, about change,
and I welcome change. I like change. I think that
to a detriment, I probably like it too much. I think, Um,
I get complaced. How is that? That's just how you're wired.
It's how I'm wired. It's why I've moved so many
different times. It's why I changed my hair color, I
cut my hair, I get extensions. I you know, I
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can't stay. I have an itchy foot, as they say,
it's actually it's right now as a rash. But um,
I'm not kidding, um, but I'm putting on that. What
do you the steroid cream? I would pass the p
d S, but yeah, it's a weird rush. Supposed it's
from stress, A lot of stress. Anyways, I like change,
all the stress. So my question to you is why
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is changed hard for you? Because to me, I'm like,
oh yeah, okay, we'll change and moving on or whatever.
But it's harder for you. Why Why do you Why
do you like consistency versus the opposite. I don't know.
It's probably the thought of being safe. You know. You
mentioned ESPN, and I was there for eight years of
my career, and and much like how I'm having a
hard time with this with the guys leaving, I was
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the same. I took a huge leap of faith and
left ESPN to go to Fox and I was leaving. Gosh,
three guys that I bawled over. I mean I remember
calling at the time, Chip Kelly was at Oregon. I
called Coach k and I called Dan Patrick. I called
a couple of people because I would sit on my
couch in New York and just ball because I had
this opportunity. I knew I wanted to go to the
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tip box to work in the NFL. I wasn't going
to be able to do that with the ESPN. And
there were three guys Mike Triko, Kirk, Herb Street and
Chris Bowler, who were my people. They were my brothers.
They were my Joe and Troy. And those were the
things that were HI exactly. I mean, those are the
things that were like, oh would she need she's a
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big fan of Toriko to oh just a great job?
Really does um? Yeah? Those were what was holding me
back at ESPN. I was like, no, but I have
my family there. And the day it was announced, I
couldn't even call those guys. I was actually trying to
remember if I called them because I was so upset
to leave them. So I was able to deal with that,
and then I was able to come to Fox and
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make you know two new best friends and Joe and Troy.
So look, life goes on. I need to remember those things,
but it does. It just brings up a really big
thing with me. How I just don't accept change. I
will say this, I feel like the tears, and I
think the boys have been very surprised. I think our
management has been surprised about my reaction because I don't
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cry a lot in front of other people, but I
reserve very vulnerable and open about my thoughts about them leaving.
That has everything to do with us suffering our loss
in you know, the baby world last summer. So I'm
trying to be better about getting that stuff out because
you keep it in and just bad ship happens to
your body. So I apologize to Joe, Troy, our management,
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and stop my director for being like no, stop, do
not apologize for emotion? And here's the here's this. See
this gives go back into that whole female versus male conversation.
Do you think men apologize for their emotions? Maybe their
emotions are different and it's not tears whatever, do not
apologize for giving a ship? Do you think that our
management like, oh, Aaron's crying like she's no, it's like
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you care, and that's not like I mean hair, yeah
you care. Can you imagine if you're like the opposite,
you're like okay, cool, like okay, it was nice working
with you guys by they'd be like, look like no,
I think that my One of the many therapists I've had,
you told me that vulnerability is a good thing. It's
actually a sign of strength. So you being even vulnerable here,
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and like any time I see you get emotional, I
get emotional because as a girlfriend, you just want to
hug you and say it's okay, here's the good news.
Joe and Troy aren't going anywhere in your lives. They're
just it looks different professionally, and like you joy go
herb Street and Fowler exactly right, and so you still
lean on those guys constantly, and Joe and Troy will
be the same for you. So it's just I always
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look at life as different chapters, and in reading the books,
you don't want to stay on the same chapter for
too long because like, we know what that story looks like.
So to me, change, I welcome change because it's kind
of albeit scary, it's exciting, like, oh, what is on
the other side, So you're not replacing them with whoever
takes over in the booth. It's just a different chapter
in your story. And sometimes change is good because then
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it even rejuvenates you know, everyone around you kind of
has like forces your hand. I know, for me, sometimes
I get complacent in my job or personally or whatever,
and I need like a little ignitement, Like I was
really sad when Tony Gonzalez left our or Randy Moss
left that one year, and um, Champ Bailey, I mean,
we've had a turnover on our show, but it means
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that we were lucky enough to get the first relationship
with them and then keep those relationships with relationships if
they're that important moving forward. So I don't know. What
about Colin leaving, that's a really good point, Brian Colin,
did you cry as much as I cried? I mean, um,
Colin Colin leaving? Colin is very much a presence in
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my life still, so he didn't go anywhere. But so, yeah,
what a week it is. I guess I wanted to
ask the listeners because they've been great, and they all
have been like d m NG and asking and stuff
about how I'm doing and and and you know what's
going to happen and everything. How do you guys deal
with change? Any recommendations. I'm trying a book right now.
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I'm gonna give it to you when I'm done. It's
called Do Breathe. Um I okay, like just learning like
do and then there's different books. So there's do and
this one's about breathing. So how can read? So? Um? Yeah,
I'm trying that. I need to just read past page five. Okay, good,
Well we're going to spop books then, because this is
the book I'm currently reading that let that Ship Go.
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You're going to love this And I'm only where am
I on page fifty six? But the whole idea is
being president And I don't know. I always say his
name wrong, so fuck me, um, Eckart told the Power
of Now. So being listened to him on an operh podcast,
he was amazing. So and again I'm Eckart told, I
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don't think I'm pronouncing his na right. But the message
that book, very similar to this one in its infancy,
has resonated with me because I am someone I know
very much like you. We would be an acupuncture, we'd
be in yoga, thinking about all the other things we're
supposed to be doing and not being present in the moment.
So this book is a lot about when you're driving
in your car, don't think about all the other things
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you have to do. Just think about I'm driving in
the car and I'm happy that it's a sunny day,
and I'm focused on like the joy that it's bringing
you to, not being a rush or whatever those things are,
instead of always thinking, oh, another thing that I'm doing.
And I think you should do this too, because I know,
and Jarrett would back me up on this, you and
your phone are attached a lot. Oh yeah, you're not
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allowed to look at your phone until after your first
cup of coffee. And why that's important is because for me,
I was waking up in the morning and I would
open my email and already have all of these things
like with house at home or whatever that were problems.
This wasn't delivered, this wasn't done right, and I'm like,
now I'm in a bad mood and i haven't even
got yes, I have even gotten out of bed, and
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I'm already like funk, I hate this day. So have
our cup of coffee or tea or athletic greens or
whatever it is that you're going to have and then
then open your email. So I don't know. I just
think that I'm trying to do little things because there's
a lot of change going on in my personal life
and professionally like figuring out sort of how to balance
those things and not be overwhelmed by change. Um yeah,
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I think you know. I'll try anything once. So any
suggestion that people have for us managing that would be amazing. Absolutely.
I love the phone thing. I need to be better
with that. I usually get up before Jarrett and I
or if like he gets up and goes to the bathroom,
I'm like already on my phone and he's always saying
what's going on in the world. So you're right, it
totally sets your mood. There's no need for that. And
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I do want to say this just to tie a
bow on everything. With the change that's happening at Fox,
I do have faith in our network. That's just the
one thing I I know, Like, look, they you know,
have obviously been an amazing network for so long. It's
just my issue. I'm the one that needs to let
ship go. And that's another thing I'm really trying hard
and wow, I'll just like therapy, pour it all out there.
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It's been a tough month in terms of, you know,
my best friends slash brothers are leaving me. It's been
an interesting month in terms of UM learning with about
where um some things I'm dealing with and not at
all that we're having a tough go. But look, we're expanding,
We're getting bigger. I'm trying to deal with other growth.
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I said to one of my good girlfriends, Megan Mitchell.
I didn't go to school for this. She literally said,
you're you're getting your m b A right now. And
then you know, personally, we are having a really, really
rough probably two months on the baby fertility side. So
it's crazy because you know a lot of things that
have to do with my body and trying to stay
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calm and breathing. I've had a hard time with that
because I've just had to shake up at work. I'm
you know, a lot of ships going on with where
I know I'm trying to I'm supposed to stay in
sane and levelheaded because your body stress is affecting me
fertility wise, and like I said to Jared a couple
of weeks ago, I just freaking need to learn how
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to stay even keel and I fucking don't know how
to do that. And any of you guys, and you've
been amazing with this that are dealing with your fertility
journey as well, that alone is such a roller coaster.
We get so high with the highs and then we
get so low with the lows, and it's just like,
holy shit, And even with work, I gotta learn how
to be like this, and I don't know how well. Okay,
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so as fertility stuff goes, let's lean on those that
are going through the exact same thing that you are,
because I don't. I can't as as your girlfriend. I
can speak to you having frozen my eggs and whatever,
but I don't know if I'm ever You know how
hard that was, Like you know how terrible it was.
But like I'm getting to the point in my life
where I don't know if kids is going to happen
for me for a number of different reasons, and so
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there's stress that comes with that. But I have learned this,
and this is where my dad's really good. He's like,
control what you can control, you Worrying about things that
you can't control is a waste of your time right,
and for any Christians out there, there's like a biblical
scripture that supports that's like Matthew six before a friend
of mine told me about this one time whatever. Without
getting too deep into it, there's just this idea that
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worrying about something does not add any it doesn't help.
Like what is worried now? It's just at toxin. And
as someone who's went through a lot of health stuff
this past year with the appendix, with the spatial spasm,
now a weird rash, like my body is saying, by
the way, the rash is on your knee, let's be
honest about it. We don't want people getting concerned or
like making ship up where this rash is. You know,
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my girl is good. There is a rash. I'm very honest.
I've never had a rash about else. Okay, I've never
had anything else. And we're not judging people that happen
so you oh my god. No, in fact, we'd like
to hear your story. Yeah, I just your your body
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is going to tell you and I'd say this to
you all the time. And you're really good about taking
care of your body. You're really good about active all
the green juice is the bone. That's kind of stuff. Sister.
You can control what you can control, and you get
an A plus plus plus plus plus plus for everything
that you've done to put you and Jarrett in a
position to have a family, and anything outside of that
that you can't control, you worrying about it. And look,
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it's easy for me to sit there and say that,
but you've counseled me on some stuff, personal stuff like
if I can't control it, how is it helping me?
It's only hurting me, right, So I think that for
anyone else that's out there that's gone through stuff. And
here's the other thing too, not to be so you know,
broad stroke about this, But perspective is a big thing
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the world. There is a lot of ship going on
in the world, and so that's where I you know,
and I hate when it's like, oh, things could be worse.
It's like, yeah, but this is like what's happening in
my life. So it is shitty. But then I take
a step back and I go, hey, it could be worse,
and it could be this, or it could be this,
And so I try to then have moments of like
I feel sorry for myself for a little bit, and
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then I move on to much bigger things and say
I'm so grateful for this, this, this and this, And
my brother and I do a gratitude list every single night.
We've done it for God. When was I like I
hacking and talking things like five years ago, so I
was feeling sorry for myself. So my brother said to me,
we need to focus on the good things in your life.
So every night we write three things were grateful for
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and she exercise that helps me put things into perspective.
So um, yeah, again, I would love for other you know,
things that people do that help them. But I just
want to remind you you are so fucking strong you.
I'm inspired by you all the time as a girlfriend, No,
because you are, and people that don't know this side
of you as like a girlfriend, like Aaron's always asking
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how her girlfriends are before she talks about her ship.
So because I just know it takes so long with
my own ship, and let me just hear yours because
mine for minutes long. Okay, how we are problem having
a baby. I've got to figure out stop it. And
Aaron uses humor to to get through it, which is important,
but it's okay, to have a good cry. Well yeah,
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but you know, anyways, you're doing great, sweetie. You're doing great.
Is a really good thing for us. We like that. Yeah,
it does help a time. Are you gonna give yourself? Like?
What are we looking forward to this offseason? Let's focus
on the positive? Yeah, I mean I am this is
my problem. And again not to bring it back to charity,
but this is how I have to kind of like
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view things, and I need to figure it out. I mean, look,
I've been doing this ideaf thing for eight years. It's
really a lot. You've really been doing it that long?
Yeah that was yeah, but and obviously, like you know it,
I wouldn't be doing it if I was having success.
So the problem is your body is so month to
month because of stress or traveling. Well now I'm not traveling,
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so they think I'm going to be okay. But them
as I've been having stress and the other thing. Women
out there that are dealing with fertility stuff, you guys
get this. They're always like, just relax. How the can
you relax? When you're forty three, you know the window
is closing and you're trying to have a baby. It's
so hard. So um, yeah, we are definitely excited to
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go out to Montana. I'd like to take a vacation
with you. It's just everyone unfortunately right now, Yeah, revolves
around my body. Can I do I v F It's
like crazy. And I was saying that to Jared. I'm
when I do get down, I just say to him,
I'm so tired of this being my narrative for eight years,
Like it really really has controlled my schedule. So I'm
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excited to put my phone away and read my girl.
I'm excited for a change at work. I'm looking forward
to allowing that what are you excited for? Because you
did mention you are you have gone through stuff as well. Yeah,
and I'll talk up you deserve to enjoy things too. Yeah,
I will definitely. I mean, I'm an open book, letting
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ship go um and yeah there's there's you know, I'll
definitely talk about in in length and when it's appropriate
sort of different things. But yeah, I just think that
for me, I don't know, it's just I go, I
I feel bad for myself some days and then I go, fucking,
my life's great. I've got you know what I do
have my health is I have my health. I've got
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incredible friends. I've got a great family. I've got so
many things like look at these look at these dogs.
I mean, so there's far get to do what we love,
do what we love. I mean we talked about that earlier,
like how fucking lucky. I mean, I operate my life
with my contracts like I've got one year left, and
then I always think like I don't have a job
after that, and I was like, oh, you gonna fine.
You don't know if you're going to be fine. We
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we work in an industry that we've seen people not
get renewed, so I always try to and again, um,
just the constant betterment of self and that to why
even you know, this podcast has been super cathartic for
for me to be able to talk and to hear
other people's advice on things and stuff like that. But
I'm gonna give myself a little runway to take a vacation.
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I know, we talked about we'll take one together. So
many suggestions for they would be great. I'm dying to
go on a safari. I went to South Africa in
in time to cover the World Cup, but we couldn't
really do anything because there was such tight security, and
so I want to go to Africa. I want to
see an elephant up close. I want to see a giraffe,
like come into the you know, the land crew or
whatever rover I want to I want to do that.
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That's like on my bucket list of things to do.
I would like to do it as well. We have
a couple of friends that have done it. I know
Troy Aikman has done it. He was telling me about
it a little bit. I love seeing animals in there. Yeah, um,
I've I love seeing animals in their natural habitat, in
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their environment. Um, and not in captivity. I'm very big
on that, but um yeah, I it would scare the
ship out of me. It's amazing. I know I'd be
crying left and right just seeing That's how I am.
When I would you would be singing the Lion King
soundtrack like every five minutes. I know, it's so good.
It would be great. I just would be. You see
these crazy as pictures if elephants charging these jeeps and
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ship and I'm like, I have zero interest in getting
that close, No thank you. I'll be out there in
the fields doing snow angels and You'll be like, get
in the car. I love it. I love it all.
But yeah, I think in you know, in summary of
all this and conversation, that even though you're reluctant to
change because it's a little bit uncomfortable and you like consistency,
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change also allows for something maybe not better, but just
different on the other side. And so even you know,
you being afraid to leave ESPN, look at what that
change led to. So exactly who knows what the next
chapter in your journey looks like. And I want to
give you a big hug for all the other things
that you're going through. And I'm just inspired by you.
And I know that a lot of people are thank
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you for being honest about your fertility journey because I
know it's not also easy to always be like fucking a,
this is always my narrative. I'm tired of being sad.
I'm tired of being that. But everything happens in due time,
And do not worry, because worrying does not at any
time to your life. I know, I know it's gonna happen.
It's all gonna happen. And I do believe like what
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I'm going through fertility wise is probably affecting my emotions
in terms of the boys leaving and things like that
and super emotional and things like that. But um, yeah,
I do know good things are going to happen. It
was funny my fertility doctor, who I absolutely adore. He
we were joking the other day if you can joke
about things, and he goes, Man, when we finally get
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this done for you, I think I'm retiring because you
know what I put him through. How you know who
used the word retire, Your fertility doctor, Tom Brady didn't back.
So let's celebrate the victories. Let's fucking go. I love you,
I'm here for you, always into the listeners, and you
send us your d ms. Like Aaron mentioned, we look
at them, We see the them all and would love
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to know what books you guys read to help you
guys get through things, or even if it's a meditation
app or anything like that. Aaron and I are always
down to try new things. And remember we have a
lot to be grateful for and we hope you guys
do too, And thank you for listening. We're grateful for
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I Heart Radio Season Change, People Change. There's a song
I need you to sing, end of the Road by
Boys to Men. That's the song that comes to mind
this week. Welcome everybody to the Calm Down Podcast. We
only have thirty minutes, and my voice is going out
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because I have been talking a lot about all the
ship that's happening this week in the NFL in the broadcast,
Oh my god, Lions and Tigers and bears, Oh my,
the Seahawks are gone forever. Aaron Rodgers is back in
Green Bay, Tom Brady is back on the field, and Aaron,
we have got to get you some men in the booth. Sister,
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where do you want to begin? I mean man ABC
uh yeah, I need all the men in the booth,
women in the booth, all the booth. How are we doing?
First of all, you're are you under the weather? What
do you got? You've got the hot delight love someone tonight.
This voice normally would be from one from parting, but
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it wasn't from parting the other one. It would be
as if I was getting sick, but I'm not sick.
COVID free you took a test yesterday. I've just had
this nagging cough that's now making me horse. But here
we are speaking of horses or Broncos Russell Wilson. It's
gonna be married to see him in the Uni, great Uni,
by the way, but gonna be weird to see him.
And you know, Go Broncos doesn't quite roll off the
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tongue like go Hawks does. But yeah, this has been
and what's he's gonna be? What's gonna be his thing
after instead of the Go Hawks? What is it? Go Broncos?
What is it? Broncos is two syllables? Hawks is one.
You've got to make it one syllable unless he says
getting out. But again, maybe it'll be let me see
you one two steps. I don't know. The possibilities are endless.
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It has been a crazy week, as everybody knows. The headlines.
Now Tom Brady is back in Tampa and we spoke
about it. If you guys haven't heard the pregame, it's
a little precursory conversation Aaron and I have prior to
doing the full podcast, but we was sort of dabbled
in the conversation over there on Tom Brady Aaron sent
me in all caps texts saying thank god after a
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week where she was involved in a lot of headlines.
As far as her teammates leaving the booth, we will
get to that in a second. But Tom Brady, let's
start with the positive here is coming back your one
word to sum up how you feel about this? Yeah,
that works. It's just good for football, it is. It's
good that he's back. I was gonna ask you this.
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We saw Jalen Ramsey's reaction and what he posted on
Instagram about you know, playing Tom and everything, and what
do you think other players thought? What do you think
They're one word reaction was when the news broke yesterday
that he was coming back. Well, well, I wish that
the news so I saw. I told you I saw
Julian Edelman the night before restaurant at a restaurant, and
then the next day the news came out that Brady
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was coming back. Well, we gotta get Jewels on the
show because Julian will have all kinds of comments about this.
But I would imagine players think one of two things.
His own teammates are like, let's fucking go, and then
any other guy that has to face him as like,
of course he's coming back, and I never thought he
was actually going to leave, and that you know, didn't
in that thing that he wrote on Instagram, he never
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said the word retire, which you know, you know him
way better than I do. And I just can't imagine
a guy like that going out when a he wasn't hurt,
he still had a team with a bunch of studs
offensively and defensively that he could build around. And now
this NFC is a little bit easier to get through,
and now get nothing's easy to get through in the NFL,
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of course, but that a f C and NFC is
a little bit more balanced now in terms of talent.
So I just can't imagine him leaving. But he's back,
and that's great for you who's on the field and
and covers him regularly and fabulous season. Yes please and
for three years go just go, let's go again. I am.
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I love it so much. You know, I'm still investing
because when you're forty three years old and you still
feel like you can do things, I mean, selfishly talking
about myself, it's fun to cover somebody that's older and
pushing the limits and surprising people and I'm just excited
for all the things you know that's going to happen.
I can't wait for another Rams Bucks matchup. Are we
gonna get Packers Bucks again? Like it's just good. It's
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good for football, good, good for the NFC. It was
when Tiger came back, and even like winning the Masters
in two thousand nine, wearing seeing that red polo on
a Sunday is good for golf and it's just number
twelve out on the field on Sunday is good for
the game of football. And this brings up the point
with everything that was happening in baseball be my dad
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and I were watching it a lot, with the you know,
holding out and the different you know negotiations and the
season being delayed and all that kind of stuff, And
then we turn over to NFL Network and that thing
is a mother machine. It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop.
The com middle thing over there, protect the shield. I mean,
my god, Roger Goodell to your earlier point in the pregame,
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like this is a machine. And every other sport needs
to take note of how this thing is always the headline,
even when it's their off season. Everything is a headline
in the way combine free agency. Then you know O
t A. Broadcasters leave broadcasters into it. You know what
I left me just not wait until the B block.
So big news. Okay, you want to know what I
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wanted to come on air with today, with the news
that my two broadcasters are like gone. There were two things.
There were two memes that was gonna send to you
this weekend. Oh or I was going to do that. Hello,
it's me. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're bringing levity
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levity to this situation for the last two weeks. I
know this has not been easy for you. For those
of you guys that are not familiar to Aikman and
Joe Buck have announced that they are moving over to
another network and leaving the booth. But what twenty years
for them in the booth together? Twenty years together. I
did ten seasons with them, a decade and we're talking about,
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you know, Russell leaving in Seattle. But this is the thing,
when you spend that much time with them, it's not
just about Sunday. It's not just about the games you
guys did on Thursday. It's you know, the pre production meetings,
it's the dinners, it's the plane rides, it's everything, and
they become your family. So how are you feeling? Be honest, um,
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so I was sad all week. You had to deal
with me the last two weeks. Um, this all happened fast,
This all happened. I wasn't expecting it. I'll be completely honest. Um,
I don't think a lot of people were. And you know,
I am known for being one tough cookie. I can
deal with a lot of things. I have dealt with
a lot of things. But when I had to speak
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to both of those guys separately, when they both you know,
had officially left, oh god, I cried. And I don't
think they I don't think they both expected that for me.
I'll cry right now. You said it perfectly. It's not
even about like, yes, it's about working the games with them,
But there are so many moments, like I told both
of them, I came to Fox to work with them. Um,
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I just thought it would be so cool to do
games with them. And you said it perfectly, like you,
I know these people sometimes better than I know my husband.
You are every Thanksgiving, I am with them past two
Christmas is. I've been with them. You know you are
on their planes you are at their house, you're you know,
they've listened to my fertility issues, they knew about my
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cancer issues. They we I've listened to them with their
daughters or you know, having their babies and things like that,
and it's just crazy. They literally become your family and
they at times are closer to you than your actual
blood family or your husband and anything like that. So
I have been sad. I am tired of being sad
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because I need to be a big girl and move on.
But I think this brings up another issue with me.
I look like, oh, yeah, I'm just not good with change.
I'm not and I understand, you know, I don't hold
it against anybody for leaving. Look, I left ESPN after
being there for eight years and came to Fox. But
like I said at the Pat Summer All Award, that
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was one of the best career moves I ever made.
And a lot of that had to do with, yes,
my crew, but my relationship with those two. They became
my brothers and they became my really best friends. So funny,
I'm sad, but I'm so happy for them. And yeah, whatever, guys,
seeing you cry makes me want to cry. Well, you know,
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there they mean a lot to Fox, and there are
a lot of the history and like you know, I
have a story for like every game, I mean everything,
and even we were talking about the NFC Championship two
years ago in Green Bay and you just know when
ship is clicking and it's going well, and you know,
we had this awesome matchup with Aaron and Tom and
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it was we were so freaking excited. The boys nailed
their head of course they always do, and then Ronaldi
dead his hit and then I go to do mine
and the sun came out and I referenced it was
talking about the cold temps. And then we went to
break and I just remember Choice saying, hey, can Tom
and Aaron hear me? And we said, yeah, we can
hear you, and he just said, you guys just nailed that.
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That was awesome. It was just things like that, you know,
and we've had a lot of good times. And yeah,
I'm shitty with change, Aaron. It's chemistry. And then the
thing you know you talked about, you know, closer to
them sometimes in your husband obviously that's not true, but
the idea of you spent sometimes, but this idea that
you know, it is family. And we've talked about it
at length. You know, you and I both gone through
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really shitty things in a lot of different ways, um
sometimes the same ways. But Fox is family and we
always talked about that. You even said that in your
speech at the past for except the past summer allward,
and you got emotional about it, And it's because it's
really hard. We've worked for other people, both you and I,
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and it's not the same. It's not the same anywhere else.
And you know, when those bad things have happened to us,
they that company has been there for us. And so
I am sorry that you're losing you know, your teammates
in the booth and also just your your friends. You
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and I both gone through really shitty things in a
lot of different ways. But Fox is family, and you
know when those bad things have happened to us, they
that company has been there for us. And so I
am sorry that you're losing you know, your teammates in
the booth and also just your your friends. But brings
up a larger issue. And you and I were talking
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about it before we even got on here, about change,
and I welcome change. I like change. I think that
to a detriment, I probably like it too much. I think, Um,
I get complaced. How is that? That's just how you're wired.
It's how I'm wired. It's why I've moved so many
different times. It's why I changed my hair color, I
cut my hair, I get extensions. I you know, I
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can't stay. I have an itchy foot, as they say,
it's actually it's right now as a rash. But um,
I'm not kidding, um, but I'm putting on that. What
do you the steroid cream? I would pass the p
d S, but yeah, it's a weird rush. Supposed it's
from stress, A lot of stress. Anyways, I like change,
all the stress. So my question to you is why
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is changed hard for you? Because to me, I'm like,
oh yeah, okay, we'll change and moving on or whatever.
But it's harder for you. Why Why do you Why
do you like consistency versus the opposite. I don't know.
It's probably the thought of being safe. You know. You
mentioned ESPN, and I was there for eight years of
my career, and and much like how I'm having a
hard time with this with the guys leaving, I was
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the same. I took a huge leap of faith and
left ESPN to go to Fox and I was leaving. Gosh,
three guys that I bawled over. I mean I remember
calling at the time, Chip Kelly was at Oregon. I
called Coach k and I called Dan Patrick. I called
a couple of people because I would sit on my
couch in New York and just ball because I had
this opportunity. I knew I wanted to go to the
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tip box to work in the NFL. I wasn't going
to be able to do that with the ESPN. And
there were three guys Mike Triko, Kirk, Herb Street and
Chris Bowler, who were my people. They were my brothers.
They were my Joe and Troy. And those were the
things that were HI exactly. I mean, those are the
things that were like, oh would she need she's a
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big fan of Toriko to oh just a great job?
Really does um? Yeah? Those were what was holding me
back at ESPN. I was like, no, but I have
my family there. And the day it was announced, I
couldn't even call those guys. I was actually trying to
remember if I called them because I was so upset
to leave them. So I was able to deal with that,
and then I was able to come to Fox and
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make you know two new best friends and Joe and Troy.
So look, life goes on. I need to remember those things,
but it does. It just brings up a really big
thing with me. How I just don't accept change. I
will say this, I feel like the tears, and I
think the boys have been very surprised. I think our
management has been surprised about my reaction because I don't
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cry a lot in front of other people, but I
reserve very vulnerable and open about my thoughts about them leaving.
That has everything to do with us suffering our loss
in you know, the baby world last summer. So I'm
trying to be better about getting that stuff out because
you keep it in and just bad ship happens to
your body. So I apologize to Joe, Troy, our management,
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and stop my director for being like no, stop, do
not apologize for emotion? And here's the here's this. See
this gives go back into that whole female versus male conversation.
Do you think men apologize for their emotions? Maybe their
emotions are different and it's not tears whatever, do not
apologize for giving a ship? Do you think that our
management like, oh, Aaron's crying like she's no, it's like
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you care, and that's not like I mean hair, yeah
you care. Can you imagine if you're like the opposite,
you're like okay, cool, like okay, it was nice working
with you guys by they'd be like, look like no,
I think that my One of the many therapists I've had,
you told me that vulnerability is a good thing. It's
actually a sign of strength. So you being even vulnerable here,
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and like any time I see you get emotional, I
get emotional because as a girlfriend, you just want to
hug you and say it's okay, here's the good news.
Joe and Troy aren't going anywhere in your lives. They're
just it looks different professionally, and like you joy go
herb Street and Fowler exactly right, and so you still
lean on those guys constantly, and Joe and Troy will
be the same for you. So it's just I always
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look at life as different chapters, and in reading the books,
you don't want to stay on the same chapter for
too long because like, we know what that story looks like.
So to me, change, I welcome change because it's kind
of albeit scary, it's exciting, like, oh, what is on
the other side, So you're not replacing them with whoever
takes over in the booth. It's just a different chapter
in your story. And sometimes change is good because then
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it even rejuvenates you know, everyone around you kind of
has like forces your hand. I know, for me, sometimes
I get complacent in my job or personally or whatever,
and I need like a little ignitement, Like I was
really sad when Tony Gonzalez left our or Randy Moss
left that one year, and um, Champ Bailey, I mean,
we've had a turnover on our show, but it means
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that we were lucky enough to get the first relationship
with them and then keep those relationships with relationships if
they're that important moving forward. So I don't know. What
about Colin leaving, that's a really good point, Brian Colin,
did you cry as much as I cried? I mean, um,
Colin Colin leaving? Colin is very much a presence in
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my life still, so he didn't go anywhere. But so, yeah,
what a week it is. I guess I wanted to
ask the listeners because they've been great, and they all
have been like d m NG and asking and stuff
about how I'm doing and and and you know what's
going to happen and everything. How do you guys deal
with change? Any recommendations. I'm trying a book right now.
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I'm gonna give it to you when I'm done. It's
called Do Breathe. Um I okay, like just learning like
do and then there's different books. So there's do and
this one's about breathing. So how can read? So? Um? Yeah,
I'm trying that. I need to just read past page five. Okay, good,
Well we're going to spop books then, because this is
the book I'm currently reading that let that Ship Go.
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You're going to love this And I'm only where am
I on page fifty six? But the whole idea is
being president And I don't know. I always say his
name wrong, so fuck me, um, Eckart told the Power
of Now. So being listened to him on an operh podcast,
he was amazing. So and again I'm Eckart told, I
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don't think I'm pronouncing his na right. But the message
that book, very similar to this one in its infancy,
has resonated with me because I am someone I know
very much like you. We would be an acupuncture, we'd
be in yoga, thinking about all the other things we're
supposed to be doing and not being present in the moment.
So this book is a lot about when you're driving
in your car, don't think about all the other things
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you have to do. Just think about I'm driving in
the car and I'm happy that it's a sunny day,
and I'm focused on like the joy that it's bringing
you to, not being a rush or whatever those things are,
instead of always thinking, oh, another thing that I'm doing.
And I think you should do this too, because I know,
and Jarrett would back me up on this, you and
your phone are attached a lot. Oh yeah, you're not
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allowed to look at your phone until after your first
cup of coffee. And why that's important is because for me,
I was waking up in the morning and I would
open my email and already have all of these things
like with house at home or whatever that were problems.
This wasn't delivered, this wasn't done right, and I'm like,
now I'm in a bad mood and i haven't even
got yes, I have even gotten out of bed, and
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I'm already like funk, I hate this day. So have
our cup of coffee or tea or athletic greens or
whatever it is that you're going to have and then
then open your email. So I don't know. I just
think that I'm trying to do little things because there's
a lot of change going on in my personal life
and professionally like figuring out sort of how to balance
those things and not be overwhelmed by change. Um yeah,
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I think you know. I'll try anything once. So any
suggestion that people have for us managing that would be amazing. Absolutely.
I love the phone thing. I need to be better
with that. I usually get up before Jarrett and I
or if like he gets up and goes to the bathroom,
I'm like already on my phone and he's always saying
what's going on in the world. So you're right, it
totally sets your mood. There's no need for that. And
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I do want to say this just to tie a
bow on everything. With the change that's happening at Fox,
I do have faith in our network. That's just the
one thing I I know, Like, look, they you know,
have obviously been an amazing network for so long. It's
just my issue. I'm the one that needs to let
ship go. And that's another thing I'm really trying hard
and wow, I'll just like therapy, pour it all out there.
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It's been a tough month in terms of, you know,
my best friends slash brothers are leaving me. It's been
an interesting month in terms of UM learning with about
where um some things I'm dealing with and not at
all that we're having a tough go. But look, we're expanding,
We're getting bigger. I'm trying to deal with other growth.
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I said to one of my good girlfriends, Megan Mitchell.
I didn't go to school for this. She literally said,
you're you're getting your m b A right now. And
then you know, personally, we are having a really, really
rough probably two months on the baby fertility side. So
it's crazy because you know a lot of things that
have to do with my body and trying to stay
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calm and breathing. I've had a hard time with that
because I've just had to shake up at work. I'm
you know, a lot of ships going on with where
I know I'm trying to I'm supposed to stay in
sane and levelheaded because your body stress is affecting me
fertility wise, and like I said to Jared a couple
of weeks ago, I just freaking need to learn how
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to stay even keel and I fucking don't know how
to do that. And any of you guys, and you've
been amazing with this that are dealing with your fertility
journey as well, that alone is such a roller coaster.
We get so high with the highs and then we
get so low with the lows, and it's just like,
holy shit, And even with work, I gotta learn how
to be like this, and I don't know how well. Okay,
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so as fertility stuff goes, let's lean on those that
are going through the exact same thing that you are,
because I don't. I can't as as your girlfriend. I
can speak to you having frozen my eggs and whatever,
but I don't know if I'm ever You know how
hard that was, Like you know how terrible it was.
But like I'm getting to the point in my life
where I don't know if kids is going to happen
for me for a number of different reasons, and so
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there's stress that comes with that. But I have learned this,
and this is where my dad's really good. He's like,
control what you can control, you Worrying about things that
you can't control is a waste of your time right,
and for any Christians out there, there's like a biblical
scripture that supports that's like Matthew six before a friend
of mine told me about this one time whatever. Without
getting too deep into it, there's just this idea that
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worrying about something does not add any it doesn't help.
Like what is worried now? It's just at toxin. And
as someone who's went through a lot of health stuff
this past year with the appendix, with the spatial spasm,
now a weird rash, like my body is saying, by
the way, the rash is on your knee, let's be
honest about it. We don't want people getting concerned or
like making ship up where this rash is. You know,
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my girl is good. There is a rash. I'm very honest.
I've never had a rash about else. Okay, I've never
had anything else. And we're not judging people that happen
so you oh my god. No, in fact, we'd like
to hear your story. Yeah, I just your your body
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is going to tell you and I'd say this to
you all the time. And you're really good about taking
care of your body. You're really good about active all
the green juice is the bone. That's kind of stuff. Sister.
You can control what you can control, and you get
an A plus plus plus plus plus plus for everything
that you've done to put you and Jarrett in a
position to have a family, and anything outside of that
that you can't control, you worrying about it. And look,
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it's easy for me to sit there and say that,
but you've counseled me on some stuff, personal stuff like
if I can't control it, how is it helping me?
It's only hurting me, right, So I think that for
anyone else that's out there that's gone through stuff. And
here's the other thing too, not to be so you know,
broad stroke about this, But perspective is a big thing
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the world. There is a lot of ship going on
in the world, and so that's where I you know,
and I hate when it's like, oh, things could be worse.
It's like, yeah, but this is like what's happening in
my life. So it is shitty. But then I take
a step back and I go, hey, it could be worse,
and it could be this, or it could be this,
And so I try to then have moments of like
I feel sorry for myself for a little bit, and
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then I move on to much bigger things and say
I'm so grateful for this, this, this and this, And
my brother and I do a gratitude list every single night.
We've done it for God. When was I like I
hacking and talking things like five years ago, so I
was feeling sorry for myself. So my brother said to me,
we need to focus on the good things in your life.
So every night we write three things were grateful for
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and she exercise that helps me put things into perspective.
So um, yeah, again, I would love for other you know,
things that people do that help them. But I just
want to remind you you are so fucking strong you.
I'm inspired by you all the time as a girlfriend, No,
because you are, and people that don't know this side
of you as like a girlfriend, like Aaron's always asking
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how her girlfriends are before she talks about her ship.
So because I just know it takes so long with
my own ship, and let me just hear yours because
mine for minutes long. Okay, how we are problem having
a baby. I've got to figure out stop it. And
Aaron uses humor to to get through it, which is important,
but it's okay, to have a good cry. Well yeah,
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but you know, anyways, you're doing great, sweetie. You're doing great.
Is a really good thing for us. We like that. Yeah,
it does help a time. Are you gonna give yourself? Like?
What are we looking forward to this offseason? Let's focus
on the positive? Yeah, I mean I am this is
my problem. And again not to bring it back to charity,
but this is how I have to kind of like
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view things, and I need to figure it out. I mean, look,
I've been doing this ideaf thing for eight years. It's
really a lot. You've really been doing it that long?
Yeah that was yeah, but and obviously, like you know it,
I wouldn't be doing it if I was having success.
So the problem is your body is so month to
month because of stress or traveling. Well now I'm not traveling,
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so they think I'm going to be okay. But them
as I've been having stress and the other thing. Women
out there that are dealing with fertility stuff, you guys
get this. They're always like, just relax. How the can
you relax? When you're forty three, you know the window
is closing and you're trying to have a baby. It's
so hard. So um, yeah, we are definitely excited to
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go out to Montana. I'd like to take a vacation
with you. It's just everyone unfortunately right now, Yeah, revolves
around my body. Can I do I v F It's
like crazy. And I was saying that to Jared. I'm
when I do get down, I just say to him,
I'm so tired of this being my narrative for eight years,
Like it really really has controlled my schedule. So I'm
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excited to put my phone away and read my girl.
I'm excited for a change at work. I'm looking forward
to allowing that what are you excited for? Because you
did mention you are you have gone through stuff as well. Yeah,
and I'll talk up you deserve to enjoy things too. Yeah,
I will definitely. I mean, I'm an open book, letting
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ship go um and yeah there's there's you know, I'll
definitely talk about in in length and when it's appropriate
sort of different things. But yeah, I just think that
for me, I don't know, it's just I go, I
I feel bad for myself some days and then I go, fucking,
my life's great. I've got you know what I do
have my health is I have my health. I've got
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incredible friends. I've got a great family. I've got so
many things like look at these look at these dogs.
I mean, so there's far get to do what we love,
do what we love. I mean we talked about that earlier,
like how fucking lucky. I mean, I operate my life
with my contracts like I've got one year left, and
then I always think like I don't have a job
after that, and I was like, oh, you gonna fine.
You don't know if you're going to be fine. We
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we work in an industry that we've seen people not
get renewed, so I always try to and again, um,
just the constant betterment of self and that to why
even you know, this podcast has been super cathartic for
for me to be able to talk and to hear
other people's advice on things and stuff like that. But
I'm gonna give myself a little runway to take a vacation.
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I know, we talked about we'll take one together. So
many suggestions for they would be great. I'm dying to
go on a safari. I went to South Africa in
in time to cover the World Cup, but we couldn't
really do anything because there was such tight security, and
so I want to go to Africa. I want to
see an elephant up close. I want to see a giraffe,
like come into the you know, the land crew or
whatever rover I want to I want to do that.
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That's like on my bucket list of things to do.
I would like to do it as well. We have
a couple of friends that have done it. I know
Troy Aikman has done it. He was telling me about
it a little bit. I love seeing animals in there. Yeah, um,
I've I love seeing animals in their natural habitat, in
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their environment. Um, and not in captivity. I'm very big
on that, but um yeah, I it would scare the
ship out of me. It's amazing. I know I'd be
crying left and right just seeing That's how I am.
When I would you would be singing the Lion King
soundtrack like every five minutes. I know, it's so good.
It would be great. I just would be. You see
these crazy as pictures if elephants charging these jeeps and
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ship and I'm like, I have zero interest in getting
that close, No thank you. I'll be out there in
the fields doing snow angels and You'll be like, get
in the car. I love it. I love it all.
But yeah, I think in you know, in summary of
all this and conversation, that even though you're reluctant to
change because it's a little bit uncomfortable and you like consistency,
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change also allows for something maybe not better, but just
different on the other side. And so even you know,
you being afraid to leave ESPN, look at what that
change led to. So exactly who knows what the next
chapter in your journey looks like. And I want to
give you a big hug for all the other things
that you're going through. And I'm just inspired by you.
And I know that a lot of people are thank
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you for being honest about your fertility journey because I
know it's not also easy to always be like fucking a,
this is always my narrative. I'm tired of being sad.
I'm tired of being that. But everything happens in due time,
And do not worry, because worrying does not at any
time to your life. I know, I know it's gonna happen.
It's all gonna happen. And I do believe like what
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I'm going through fertility wise is probably affecting my emotions
in terms of the boys leaving and things like that
and super emotional and things like that. But um, yeah,
I do know good things are going to happen. It
was funny my fertility doctor, who I absolutely adore. He
we were joking the other day if you can joke
about things, and he goes, Man, when we finally get
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this done for you, I think I'm retiring because you
know what I put him through. How you know who
used the word retire, Your fertility doctor, Tom Brady didn't back.
So let's celebrate the victories. Let's fucking go. I love you,
I'm here for you, always into the listeners, and you
send us your d ms. Like Aaron mentioned, we look
at them, We see the them all and would love
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to know what books you guys read to help you
guys get through things, or even if it's a meditation
app or anything like that. Aaron and I are always
down to try new things. And remember we have a
lot to be grateful for and we hope you guys
do too, And thank you for listening. We're grateful for
all of you. Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is
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