Lonny The Street Lawyer is a high-profile criminal defense attorney & Cannabis Advocate in the DC metropolitan area that has represented over 5,000 criminal defendants from drugs, weapons, felony charges of all types and even murder in some cases. He owns The Law Offices of Lonny Bramzon in Silver Spring, Maryland, where he practices as a criminal defense attorney & Street Lawyer Services in Northeast D.C. which is a marketing office for his legal practice. At SLS, they sell “discounted coupons redeemable for legal services,” it reads on their website, and “all coupons come with an optional free cannabis gift of your choice.”
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I l s dot com. Our guest today, our brother
from another mother, from the East Coast all the way
out to the West Coast to kick it with the
fan Bam. Lonnie Bramson, a k a. Lonnie the Street
Lawyer is a cannabis influencer, a radio personality, and owner
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founder of Law Offices of Lonnie Bromson and Street Lawyer Services.
Now Lonnie has been you guys, the street Lawyer forever.
This is the guy you know. He's a high profile
criminal defense attorney. That's what his get up was forever,
a cannabis advocate in the d C metropolitan area that
has represented over five thousand criminal defendants from drugs, weapons,
felony charges of all types, and even murder in some cases.
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So he's a smart cookie. He knows how to get
you out of a few things. One number to keep
in your back pocket for sure. For more than one reason,
he owns the law office is of Lonnie Brahmson in
Silver Springs, Maryland, where he's not really practiced too much,
but you know he's still a lawry folks. The bottom
line Defense Attorney and Street Lawyer Services in North DC,
which is a marketing offices for his legal practice. Now
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at at sl S, they sell discounted cupons redeemable for
legal services and reads on their websites, and all coupons
come with an option free cannabis gift of your choice.
We're gonna talk all about that and more. Others may
also recognize Lonnie for being an outspoken voice of the
logic and the fact base analysts and the d m
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V and beyond as a guest host of DC one
oh ones Clinger Show on Tuesday nights, which was also
on I Heart Radios, where listeners from around the d
m V used to listen to this fly ass guy
preaching teach on the microphone like it was a bone,
holding it and giving his knowledge and uh, listeners all
around loved it, which was awesome. And in any case,
now he's here with us to share his knowledge and experience.
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Give it up, ladies and gentlemen, for Lonnie. There's Street Lawyer.
Yeah right, Lonnie, you're hustling your game. You want it longer,
You want it longer. See how long it ago? Get whatever?
This man? You see him now? You like that, Lonnie?
That's what you get. Man. That was nice. I'll see
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you all later. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I'll come
back at for he do. That was that you've earned that.
That's you. That's what you've done. People need to recognize
who you are. And that kind of sums it up
without the detail of all your hard work. But let's
just go back to the young Lonnie. We've had you
on the show before, But what makes you even decide
to become a lawyer. I wanted this young kid first
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before this whole game of you doing what you're doing
what you say, because the lawyer is what's got you
into what you're doing now right, everything that will. First
of all, I'm honored to be here, Thank you, man.
This is an esteemed crowd right here in this seat,
you know, um and in those seats. So anyway, you know,
every step in my life led to this point, and
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every single thing that happened to us, good or bad.
Everything that happened us good or bad, mistakes or successes,
whatever leads you to exactly where you are, and you
and you of course and everybody. I became a lawyer
because you know, my dad never really had any luck
in business, and my mom was a school teacher. And
right away my dad saw it, like all this business
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at the inventory, I can't keep up with it. Let
me make my kids just sell their time. That's how
he saw. You could always sell your time when things
go bad, sell your time. That's how he saw it.
So he always pushed it, and I'm like, you know,
and then I looked into it, I'm like, damn, that
sounds like the easiest option to to get to a
good point in life, you know. I mean it's four
years of undergrad, which I was planning new anyway, just
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three more years, I mean, go to a doctor. It's
like eight more years. That's what I was thinking, you know.
I was looking at it, you know, and just real practically,
because all I wanted to do was play anyway, you
know what I'm saying. I just wanted to play. You know.
I never wanted to do any of that, you know,
but I knew I had to. But so then, um,
you know, I just went that path that never doubted it,
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went to undergrad at Stanford and then went to law
school in Columbia, and uh, I didn't know what the
hell was going on in law school. I didn't understand
any of this ship. The only thing I understood was
the ship. I saw Perry Mason and Matt Lock, that
old stuff, you know, when I was a little watching
it with my dad, And I'm like, well, you know,
let me explore that. So I became a public defender,
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uh in Baltimore. And then I'm like, okay, this is
what I like. You know, criminal defense. You're on your feet,
you're in court, people people you know, you know, yeah,
and you're always you know, when you talk fifty people
in the courtroom, a guy on the road, everybody shuts
the funk up and listens to you. Not that I
was thirsty for that, but that was the reality compared
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to like corporate you don't even meet people. You're a
small part of a big piece. Respect. Can you listen
to me in a corporate environment where you're a lawyer,
they have to listen when you're in court exactly exactly.
You could be just like, you know, just the public
defender that just got out of law school. That's all
frumpy and everybody's gonna shut the funk up while you talk,
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you know. But but anyway, so that was exciting because
I was doing people stuff. You know, it wasn't you know,
I wasn't in uh in an office very much, and
you know I can't do that. So um, I got
real into the criminal defense. You know, I'm all kinds
of big problems come your way and you you are
in charge of trying to solve them, to say this
guy's ass right or wrong, good or bad? You know
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what I'm saying. So you know that was my whole
thing is like, you know, it's not it's not only
about you know, what about the innocent guys who get charged,
Now this is a small part. What about the guilty
guys to get charged? Those guys is the majority, and
you gotta get them good results, save their asses, you know.
You know, it's it's not about the innocent prisoner. You know,
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you have to exonerate, that's important, of course, but that's
you know, what's the guys that are guilty that you
actually gotta get that, yeah, or at least like yeah,
like saved there, you know the last part of their
kids childhood with that, you know what I'm saying, so
you started seeing a love for that too, and that's
the direction you went because of all the criminal stuff
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that you watched as a kid, going, I bet I
can get these guys better. Well yeah, and just like
the excitement of it. I just wanted excitement, you know.
And I was always into you know, what's going on
the streets and culture, you know, um with you know,
within a city, within the neighborhood. That was always real
into that. So it was it was good. It was
good because it feels like, you know, in the streets,
everybody needs one of those you know what I'm saying.
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A captain's like, yo, go to Lani, he can hook
you up. Yeah, you know, I became real familiar with
the DC neighborhoods and streets, said that for fifteen years.
So after a while, you do a good job, and
you know, you come at them right, they'll tell their
friends and any interesting cases that you can talk about, well,
I mean, you know it's all the cases are public record.
So what's confidential is what I spoke about with my client.
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Sure you see what I'm saying. So everything else is
public record. So can you tell us about Yeah, I
mean had a one that was like interesting, like yo,
like I didn't think we get this one, yeah, or
a good one. All right? This is all gang gang stuff, right,
so uh, you know in neighborhood rights right outside of
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d C, Latino neighborhood name called Langley Park, heavy gang activity,
and I represented all those guys, you know, when they
got in trouble. So he was the allegation. There was
a guy who just testified against MS thirteen leaders in
Virginia and each of them got like a hundred years.
It was insane. It's like two thousand and eight, two
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thousand nine because they were cracking down hard. And then
he's got and this guy testified against him. So this
guy himself did a couple of years in prison, got out,
and for some reason, he's hanging out on a playground
in the middle of Langley Park and he just testified
against MS thirteen leaders. I mean he's the point. He's
hanging out by himself, like with a girl, like an
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underaged girl or so something. So what happens the allegation
is at my client and a couple of his friends
um recognized him, approached him and stabbed the ship out
of him and robbed him. He somehow made it so
the guy somehow stumbles off blood everywhere. Someone calls the police,
you know, ambulance come and yeah, saved his life. So
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so this happens in my client, they say was the ringleader.
You know, my client has no tattoos or anything none.
You know, the young guys, the guys born here, they
don't get tattoos. A lot of times if they're heavy
in the gang, like no tattoos. That's kind of but anyway, um, yeah,
he come up, he declares that he no, no, no,
you know, I don't know what anybody talking about around here.
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I am innocent. Let's go to trial. Yeah no, I
don't know. So um at trial, what's funny is my
client is, uh no tattoos. You know, he looks pretty
clean cup. But you know he's accused of being oj.
You know, they essentially ordered these other guys to go
stab that guy, you know what I mean. So the
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witness against him looks like one of these guys in
the jail videos of El Salvador. That the witness who
already testified against the leaders and got the hundred years,
and now here he is againting court testifying again. You
know what I'm saying. And what's funny is the guy's
presence looked like tatted up faced, a crazy you know, vivid,
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you know, you know, and you don't. You don't see
many guys who that look like that around Maryland and
d C. Almost none. Ever, he's like the first one,
you know what I mean. And I'm like, you know,
like to the Jerry. So so he's the gangster, but
he's not the gangswer. So wait wait, that's the gangster there,
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you know. And so it was a crazy cross examination.
It was a crazy situation. But uh my clank got
convicted of a couple of things. And here's the craziest part.
All right, so he got convicted. Man, he was fucking
good dude, his family good people. Um you know, there
was evidence that he was definitely involved in the game.
Of course, you know, there was evidence. But um so
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he ended up getting eleven years and it was it
was ten years suspend five and eleven years suspend five.
So that means he gets eleven years, right, So I've
never seen ten eleven were suspended, correct, So you know,
but the judge was saying in a complicated way, so
that that's the sentence, and bro this guy was calm,
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like a guy sitting on a park bench in Central
Park during the whole trial. Okay, like paying attention. He
wasn't like you know, but he was just very focused listening.
I mean, bro, he didn't give me a hard time, nothing.
And so finally he was walking away. They put her
hand on. I go, hey, momm and I go, so
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that's eleven years and he looks at me like this,
it looks back. He goes, no problem and walks away. Wow,
he said no problem. Yeah, bro, the way he said it.
And it wasn't for the fat There was nobody there. Yeah,
it was no girls around. Yeah, you girls around. It
wasn't to be cool, yeah, it was just it was
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just that was a crazy, crazy little story. Crazy story
you ever heard from him? Since? No, But I saw
him on a reconsideration and we lowered his sentence a
little bit and he was jacked as fuck. And I
asked of us, if so, so, how are things, you know,
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how are things here with you? Because he got convicted
of witness intimidation, witness assault and all that, So I go,
how are things in there for you? He goes, great,
in there, bro, I'm great? What he didn't snitch. He
got went down for witness intimidation means he went out
of witness bro o G O G. Stay. He walked
in and everything's cool. He could have his you got
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a high seat he walked in. Yeah, yeah, you know what
what I'm saying. I think about it. He got he
got a package. Right when he got here, he gets like,
oh here you go, here you go. I mean it's
kind of like the best way to get in there.
You know what was alleged wit. You know, under his circumstances,
the best scenario was the best scenario. Like he played
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it out right. I think he's out and doing you know,
I think he's he's living a good life now. Again,
though that's crazy. Let's take a break and talk about
how you got into the cannabis game, because that's gonna
be even more interesting. Is Lonnie the Street Lawyer here
on Cannabis Talk one on one. We were right back
after this. Keep it luck, We'll be right back with
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that was a great story, dude. I love how you
tell stories too. You're just great energy. Ever, from the
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first time we met you two every time I see you,
you're You're awesome. Now talk to us and tell the audience.
How does this game go from defending criminals to going
me think of shelling cannabis because it's all the great
line of criminalism because I know the law and I
could do this legally, not legally, How do white fucking
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convinced myself to do what I'm doing? Now? Where does
that transition happen? Yeah? Man, I mean there was a
little bit of that thought process that's kind of accurate.
But you know, I was I was looking at the
environment there, and I was looking at the path in
my own life. And this is in the D n
B and DR so gift he started like two d C.
That's where first started for correct because now you're in
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New York and all this other episodes started right back
at Athlete actually, so you know, I knew a lot
of people in the cannabis industry through um you know
through my work, you'd okay, everybody all the time, and
different of course, and so you know, I just knew
a lot of these people, and and so I knew
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what was going on in the scene, and it was
gifting shops. Gifting shops were huge, which means like, you know,
they have a pop up before they have a pop up,
and a couple of vendors, you know, set up tables
bucks on the street or an apartment or in a
lounge or in a little space in DC, in New
York too, everywhere they do these. But that was the
only way. And some of these vendors were making a
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little money and said, well this like, let me get
a storefront. The police aren't hassling us. So they started
getting storefronts and gifting from the storefronts. And I was
a consumer at first, uh you know, and I used
to love it. I walked in, I bought like a
Bruce Lee sticker for a hundred dollars and got you know,
a quarter of some good ship. And you know, I
wasn't too I didn't. I wasn't on the Instagram, weed
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pages or anything back then. But then I decided to
go a different fucking path in my life because I
was a lawyer. I saw this opportunity and I decided
to parlay that brand, which was Longing the Street Lawyer.
That brand was from the radio when I was on
the radio, was long in the Street Layer in d
C for five years. So I worked it. I parlayed
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the brand and then it was Street Lawyer Services, so
um Street Lawyer Services where we could sell legal coupons
and gift the weed. So we started it as a
marketing office for the law office of Lonnie Bramson. So
the idea was to sell legal coupons and give the
weed to obviously alert different people into the shop and
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wanting to buy the legal coupons and use my services,
and they'd get the weed gifts. So that was sort
of the premise, you know, because we weren't sure how
strict they would be about the actual gifting at first,
you know what I mean. So that was the premise
in as legit as hell, you know, you but you
spend a hundred dollars for two d coupon and you
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know you want the services and then you get the weed.
But you know, of course, after a while, less and
less people cared about the coupon they have to take.
You have to take if we throw it at that Yeah,
out the way out, all right, you just have to
walk out with them. But don't security to block the door. Sorry, man,
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kick me. Yeah. So, um, you know, we're real strict.
But then you know, repeat customers come in all the time,
and you know they get a regular It's more of
a dispensary conversation. And you know the products in there
are dispensary quality, good dispensary. Sure. You know, if we're
going to gift, you might as well gift the good ship.
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Why not? Why so? Um? So, you know, that really
blew up, and a lot of gifting shops in DC
are doing that now. But the brand blew up when
you know, when we really started getting into it and
marketing so visibly on Instagram and and so vividly with
the weed, so vividly about it. Not many people were
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doing that. And this is two, you know, and we
just went real um aggressive with the with the display
and the culture, real aggressive with it. So we had
all the SLS women, which which are my bud tenders,
are called SLS women. They gave themselves that name, not me,
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Hey you guys, no, no, no, no organically, you know,
so lawyers services. So the bood tenders in Miami, New
York and will get into that are all SLS women
and you know, so we were really displaying the culture,
you know, with the weed with the women and really,
you know, people were very low key about it back then.
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That's the thing, you know they were. They were just
all innuendo and you know we were real will open
with straight open with it and you don't do whoa.
But that helped create cannabis culture in d C. And
a vibe for you that made this the st lawyers
the craziest fucking dude out there. You see what he's
doing online and you see what he's doing everywhere and
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he's a real lawyer, right. I mean, it made this
vibe of like what is it? It's crazy? Right? But
I see I got our all attention, like who is
this dude? Right? So, and it was all listened. The
bottom line is for me to have fun. Okay, I'm
having fun, but even more bottom line, for everybody else
around me to have fun. So I'm looking around everybody
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smiling having fun. The consumer vendor relationship is the most
beautiful consumer vendor relationship I've ever seen or been involved with.
You know, they come in and they thank you, you know,
and and they talk about their lives when they come in, Oh,
I need something to help me sleep. Oh why you
can't sleep well because this happened? I oh should this
happened to my grandma? And boom boo bom, and we
come to therapy session. Yeah, people, they come in next time.
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But this cookies and it's a family thing in d C.
It's like such a community. That's a beautiful thing. Like
people are like come in. It's it's like it we
created a community for people. And I'll tell you what.
We creates communities for people. And a lot of people
have trouble finding communities. Maybe they're not into this sport
or this religion or whatever, but we gives them that.
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You know, a lot of lonely people are into weed too.
And when they come in and they have something, they
have some sort of social gatherings, some sort of there
could be the gathering of the inverteds over there that
are all cannabis inverted people where it's and I've noticed
it with cannabis consumers that around when we have events
here on the campus and those the group of like
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the inverts that I've already know who I know are
inverts and they all connect together like look at but
I joked to them pin oh, and they all don't
know and I break the guys going, oh, the group
of inverts are together? Why because I know you you, you,
you and you, and you're all inverts. And it's funny
how you say that. And I've seen that dynamic happen
here on the campus as we grow organic relationships here.
I've seen that happen. It's so funny because even people
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who might find themselves to be rare and not have
many commonalities with people, if they smoke weed. That's the
one thing. And yes, so we create community. We creates
community for a lot of people that wouldn't otherwise have it. Yeah,
I believe that. I really believe that because I think
there's a lot of people that that don't like to
socialize and and and but they will if you're smoking
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a joint with them, you know, it's like oh here, boom,
and they could they could socialize on something that they
that they get that the other person gets. And then
you know, there's other people that are super social that
smoke to slow down to be like, yeah, I need
to calm down, you know, smoking on the pound, trying
to calm down. Then you know, and then and then
there's and then there's people that that I think, you know,
do it for their illnesses. You know, they're like they're
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sick and they needed for appetain, pain and so and
so on. So I I do believe that there's a
community based you know scenario there right when you look
at it, it really does, because just think about it.
There's those who like to smoke by themselves too, but
it's more of a gathering social thing that I look
at it as well, from the earliest times of smoking
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with my first brothers and a group of friends to
where it wasn't by myself. Were like, you know, you didn't,
Oh I'm gonna smoke, and the person has that experience,
I'm sorry, but maybe somebody does. But it's usually with
somebody else, right, Like that's how it starts. Starts at
least somebody teaches you and shows you because it's a gathering.
And that's kind of a symbolic, realistic what it is
because all kinds, in my opinion, so much good comes
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from it, right, and it's good conversations good vibes. It's
not like something bad happens whenever community is orchanically happened.
There's never a shootout. When there's a there's not you know,
never a shooting like an alcohol when worst case scenarios,
some sort of awkward silences in between lasting Okay, you're like,
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just happen, get a little sensitive, maybe somebody might get
a little emotional. But yeah, you know scenarios. It's not
like it's different from getting together and drinking there there's
something different about the bot you know, and you know
drinking school, but um, there's something just it just feels
a little dirtier with than than just sharing a joint
with somebody I don't know, you know, because if you
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have too many, somebody might act up. It's so true.
And in that DC area which has just gotten so
much noise, we had a guy in here from the
DNB what was his name, agame of the artist, the
rapper kid. He's crushing her right now. What is that
young Jack has? Jack Hash was here is here from
the d n V, A young little artist kids. But
my point to that area as it's gotten shows on.
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I'm sure you've seen an Apple TV this and that
there's other people coming out from the d n B
makeing a lot of noise. How did that community accept
what you're doing selling cannabis. I mean, other people are
doing as well. But you're a lawyer from the community.
You're you're symbolic in the areas, grew up in the air,
you have more history. Oh Miami, okay, Oh here Miami.
But get that right, Miami vibe. You're strong, Miami vibe.
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You're like a portrait of Miami in my book, Like
when I think of the whole cat in Miami. Lonnie
the street lawyer would be our guy that would be
rocking there in New York and would walk me to
the streets of New York and Olive Boroughs exactly. Absolutely,
any opportunity to hang out with you, let's go. You know.
Um wait, you asked me something I did, which was
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the not to transition the way that the people in
d C. How do you accept of us? How they
how do they accept you like that? And because it
became so successful and now that we're gonna take a
break real quick, and how do they accept you and
then go to multiple states now? Because now you're not
only there, you're taking over the East Coast. We're to
come back and hear that answer. It's Cannabis Talk one
oh one. We'll be right back with Lonnie the Street Lawyer,
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question before we went, you know, answer that now. Yeah,
I mean so much love. I mean so much love.
I mean they just Miami boy coming into the d
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n B. D NB is a local that that they're
They're a family neighborhood area. Yeah, yeah, there are people
probably don't realize how much of that there is, how
much sort of a lot of history, like not quintessential.
The word I'm looking for is uh, colloquial colloquial culture
of the DMV. What's colloquial? What does that mean? It's
just like a family heritage tied of the community, like um,
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like very specific to that community. You know, when you
think you speak colloquial colloquial talk in l A, is
you know some you know some words, um, Bay Area
would be hell a dopey Bay Area slang l A.
You know, we do. What's but like the DMV has
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their their thing too. That's what's up exactly in DC.
The big thing is everybody's Obama. These Bamas over there
you refer to a group of guys as a group Obamas,
like oh god, no, this is Bama. Everything's Obama and
it's good or bad whatever. Yeah, it always starts off
like you you call somebody's like dorky, like that guy's
at bamaun with it. After a while you just call
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it like any group of guys. Okay, we're gonna go
hang out with Obama. Yeah, I love it. That Bama
weed that's in the bag in the SSC. So the crew,
they're just embraced you. The community. Um, you know, I
got magazine articles right away. Things. Really, you know, it
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blew up in such a positive way for me. It
was amazing, amazing, Um how much love because going on
the air and giving those services a way, I would
imagine that's what gave you that like you're here for
us vibe. Because when you go on the radio and
you're giving out advice, legal advice, you become like the
guy that's teaching folks and educating folks, and you're from
the streets. So you're giving me like a ha ha,
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the street guy made it and he's teaching us the game.
Well yeah, you know there's some of that, you know,
But when I first started A lot of people came
in there like I can't believe this. You know, I've
been listening to you on the radio and wow, I
didn't you know why, you know, they thought, But now
so many years have passed it. A few people coming like, oh,
I used, you know, used to listen to you on
the radio some though, but um, but yeah, I was
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there to help everybody. You know. I wasn't really a
controversial person. I don't think I am now. I mean,
I just like to make people smile and have fun.
Everybody's welcome, everybody's there's no oh. And this last trip
we were all in l A. This time, I'm just
here do low nice? Well you're you told us you're
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here visiting family, which is nice to have family in
the West. And then how does it going to New York?
Is it the first to jump? Like, how does that
jump happen for you? And you get that acceptance out there? Right?
The first jump was to Miami. So we opened up
in Miami because we realized we could sell Delta eight,
which is a very end of Delta. They still there,
but not only that, we're selling the edibles that are
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Delta nine, but point three of the total because that's
the point. So they're Delta nine, but they're like sugarcubes
like this. So imagine you get like six thousand milligrams
in a sugar cube and fifteen milligrams are of th HC.
Wow that she gets you fucked up, and it's illegal.
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So that's what we sell them, Delta nine legal, Delta nine, right,
so it's legal to do that the way that's point three. Yeah,
well you could do that here too, right, Kelly and
Kelly Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean and it's
funny because you sat smoke shops. Yeah, crazy to roll
that out right now at the ton of the it's
crazy to think that that's the game and you could
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do it right now, Like you just said. That's so
a lot of people still lines of like this can
still go and and there's th h C A and
there's all these new dis Yeah. Yeah, there's so many
new little things that keep coming out, which is good
for the industry. I like, for me, it's like this,
if you have ever sold cannabis and then now you're like,
well all these guys are soing Delta and I'm like,
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what are you talking about. That's how we got th
HC Delta nine on the market is by you know,
being what do they call, uh, you know, front runners
are you know, creating a creating a model and going
out there and doing it. And so don't don't don't
don't hate on the innovators that came after you. Yeah, sure,
for sure it feels like there's some of that going on. Yeah. Well,
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some people are like, oh, these guys selling Delta A,
that's not right. But bom like, dude, you're selling cannabis.
But you were selling cannabis before it was legal to
So how how can you even say that? I mean,
it's not you know, you're not giving them L s D,
you know what I'm saying. That's different if you're like, oh,
they're fucking selling l s D out there. They're getting
them all fucked up and there's or what are the
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stuff that was making making crazy and spice or whatever number. Yeah,
but I mean, if if you're doing that ship, that's different.
You could say, oh, that's fucked up. But people in
the cannabis industry got to realize that we're evolving and
there's new products evolving, and some of these products definitely
will have I believe, medical value. As what's the key
blue right there. The medical value and not only that
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they're gonna have value to whoever else is taking them,
because we don't know who those products are gonna be
able to help medically, mentally, emotionally. There's so many different
ways physically. I mean now that it could help these
people where we don't know, well, they're going into psilocybin
right now and saying that it has medicinal value, and
now it hasn't been, you know, said by the state
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of the country. But I think it's enough to open set.
It's legal, so it's it's coming. I mean, you know, no,
that's what I'm saying. I think it's I think it's
it definitely has you know, it's medicinal value. And I
can't wait for them to be having the capsules and
everything else everywhere, like in smoke shops and everything else.
But I can't move with a breakdown like this little bit.
At most of the gifting shops in d C they
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gifted mushrooms as well. We don't, but most of do.
You can buy mushrooms in any of the shops, So
you guys, I don't want to put Miami, Miami, Miami's
a neighborhood. It's right on Miami Beach on Fifth Street.
It's a dope shop, man, so many people coming in
and out. All our girls there, that's the less women
are all dancers for club space and it's a dope vibe. Man.
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It's very cool. And as it allows there, you know,
not allonge. Yeah, gifting, so we're selling dealt to eighty
and uh, but go there and visit and you know,
and then New York, so New York changed the law,
legalized cannabis, legalized weed possession. So when they legalize it,
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when they legalize possession, but there's no recreational market, that's
where gifting comes in. That's the gifting because when they
legalized possession, a lot of possess and you're allowed to
gift to your friend because obviously it's not like you're
allowed of possession. You give somebody a nug and then
police come arrest you for a felony. Right, So it's
always written into the way. Yeah, you know. So you
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go in there and buy a sticker or a hat
or something and then you get, you know, a gift.
Oh and here's your free gift. Is that what you say?
And here's your free gift, you know at the beginning, Yeah,
but of course it gets much more casual, like, Yo,
you want the weed, motherfucker give me the money. I'll
give you the motherfucking weed. Yeah, you know at the
end it gets like that. Yeah, but the first for
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the first ten times in time, how are you until
I know you're coming back? What what kind do you want?
Kind of like that that that that that that that
that that that you just win a carnival ride? Okay,
now you're done with a ride on a legal on
a legal standpoint, though, you know what happens. You know,
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if someone does get if he does get raided, it
would happen. Are they dropping charges right now? Yes? So, um,
we were rated twice in d C. And actually, uh
you know there were arrests. Did you go to fight
for the absolutely? I hired lawyers. Obviously, I've take my
you know, that's the worst thing. I'm like, you can
go there, tear the place up, take anything, but like,
do you really have to arrest my girls? It's it's
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a game in d C. Because the prosecutor's office is
not interested in prosecuting these cases. But the police departments like, okay,
we're fine. You could go dismiss him, do what you
gotta do. We do what I gotta do. We we do,
we gotta do. So there's a little the other hand,
the other hand, guys. Yeah, so in New York there's nothing,
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no enforcements so far as far as you know. And
so we're gifting just like DC. So we want you know,
I saw the environment, you know, I saw the writing
on the wall, and I'm like, yeah, we've been gifting
for years, we know the gifting thing. New York is
about to step into the exact gifting territory where we've
thrived in d C. And there's just so much interplay
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with New York and DC. So many people. I've been
to the shop in DC. I've been to the shop
in New York. So they yeah, and Ronnie the Street,
your whole character fits perfect for New York vibe as well.
That's what I mean. It is so dope. It is great.
So where's it at in New York then Lower East Side? Yeah,
it's in the Hype, man, It's in the Hype eight
five Stanton. You know, we're open um to one am
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on the weekends and eleven pm on weekdays, and you
could smoke in there. It's a smoking lounge. We call
it the Cannabis Content Lounge. So, um, you walk in there,
you buy digital content. My partner there is Tony Tolka,
the legendary New York DJ okay good. So you could
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buy digital content, which is either video of Tony yeah,
or me and the girls hanging out and you know whatever,
and their content packs. So you buy the content which
is which is even better because your email happened. And
then they're like, what even then we can't are you
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then you can't get your weed? Here's my email. Yeah,
They're like, let me give me that right now. I
want weed at gmail dot com. You know what's funny.
I don't put my name nowhere. I don't put my
email nowhere. The second I walked into the gifting shop
before I owned it, Remember I told you I was
a consumer. The second I walk in there like naming email,
like fine, yeah, I'm not giving nobody, and they're like,
(36:23):
go ahead, let's go. You might give your last four
year social Security because you want that so bad. I
didn't think about it. You get the last four probably would?
I mean the first five, the last give the first
five that's for sure, but the last four I'll give
mine on people exactly. My point is that that's as
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far as you would probably go, and I would go
to get a bag because you want your medicine or
you water bag. Right, It's not like people, it's not
it's not discretionary spending. For most it's they're they're gonna
get Yeah, I'm gonna get it one way another. Used
to be more of a discretionarything. But now you know
husbands and wives and girlfriends and boyfriends coming all the
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time to buy for their They don't smoke, but they
buy for their girlfriends, so they stay calm. Like a
lot of that going on, and a lot of old people,
a lot of elderly people. Lots of elderly people like
you'll see, I mean the variation of people who you
see in d C. You'll never see a variety of
people like that. I've never seen a more eclectic group.
We're talking like a guy from K Street with a suit,
you know, lobbyists, followed by a corner boy, followed by
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construction worker, followed by like a dude who looks like
he just got out of a half baked or something
tyedyed shirt, big beer, crazy every day dude, that's described
d C or we're out there. That was pretty accurate
because we were there. I felt like it was a
very eclectic that was that we were doing. We were
when cf n C National Cannabis. Yeah National. Did you
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go to that? That's a big yeah. I did, Yeah,
I did. They were They're glad. I hit you up.
I heard listen. I heard later from chef Phil Oh,
we see feel out there. Yeah, thanks for coming to
our party too. Nobody. I didn't know you were in fault.
So I'm gonna ask both of us. I might know.
I both of us made that happen. Made that I forgot. Yeah,
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I should have checked the next game is on, man,
and we should have checked in with you. It would
have been that much more players too. We had a
great time though, had a great time in the DC area,
but that whole area, like we said, it's just popping vibing.
That event was amazing that the culture there seems out
of this world, like you just described it, so eclectic
and cool and vibe. Because at that event it was
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so packed and it was just that group of you said,
a wonderful vibe out there. I'm loving the Cannabis Vibe
on the East Coast to the events that I've been
doing so far, well, you know, it's more exciting because
of the legalities, you know, because it's it's out of
it's in the gray area. There's no regulation, and people
could really express themselves within the space, both as vendors
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and as brands. You know, they can get real creative.
And remember d C. First of all, DC has been
gifting for longer than it should because there's a rider
on some legislation that they can't that DC won't be
able to use funds for a recreational market. The Republicans
are holding that up. So DC has been gifting for
like four years, five years now, and it's developing a
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sophisticated and you know, and and there's a lot of
different it's not only sophisticated. What is the word I'm
thinking about, it's it's highly populated. You know, there's gifting
shops opening up every day because gifting is going on
so long. You know, in New York giftings, it's about
to go recreational. They're doing legislation, they're starting to give
out licenses, so that's gonna have a shorter time period
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but DC just keeps going on and on part about
DC that baffles me when I just think about it. Geographically,
it's right next to the White House. There's Canada's being
gifted right there. It just really tickles me, to be
honest with you, in a way of why, because it
just doesn't make sense. The whole fucking electoral voting, the
cannabist thing, the whole DC area just makes me scratch
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my temples. And why do you what is this a
real state of fake state? You guys are right and
it says it's right there and you can see the
fucking president drive by a gifting shop that he's given away.
We that and it's the it's the real president of
the United States driving by. I'll tell you. It just
makes me giggle. Um, Kamala Harris, I know her. One
(40:32):
of her staffers comes to our shot, so I know
that she's She's spoken to Kamala Harris about street lawyer services,
which is kind of interesting course, and who knows how
many how many are sending their people to come get
for them, which is my pleasure, of course, yes, my
great pleasure. But yeah, everybody, what is your gut feel
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about how many of those that are in the suits
that are actually working in Congress. When the flags are
up that come to town, do you see an increase
because we know now when the flags are up, Congresses
in sessions, so there are four more congressmen and women
from the fifty states are in town. It wouldn't move
the needle because the needle want move the needle, because
you know, we have people who come in from North Carolina,
is still from Delaware who can't get like, cannot do
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you notice anything in town in VC that does move
the needle because of the area we've are, Like, if
there's huge rallies in town, yeah, we'll get a flood
of people, whether it's we have we've had Trump's rallies,
um or you know what, other kind of whatever the
feminist route, we see flood of people. The craziest when
the Trump rallies come to town. Man, they you know,
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because my security are people you all are scurities, black
and big dudes, big dudes. And we have like you know,
I three like our girls mostly black or bit of color,
and they're just they walk real softly, real respectful. We're
all cool, of course, real soft. You want to come
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head on, go ahead, yeah, Hi guys. Hey, yeah, I'm
just here. Someone paid me to be here. But you
can tell that's a big influx of business. Yeah, you know.
And that's the funny part about d C because DC
gets those type of functions and different areas, where like
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a downtown l A would get as well, a different
type of influx, but more DC. Like I said, I
could see that being a factor. But if you still
think about I mean we we we feed from like
an area of you know, about four million, four million people,
you know, so you stay. I mean if if fifty
thousand come to town, you know, I don't know how
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much it moves they need anyway, But we have seen something,
especially the Trump We noticed very much in fact January
six that a little Trump people came in. What's going on?
Like as crazy as down there? Yea? What happened up
and went on there? And war? It's all going to
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be revealed. Now, how about this. You're a lawyer. You
have insight because you're a lawyer. What do you think
happens to the scenario of Trump being accused of being
known as you see this being unfolding and being firsthand
living there. Yeah, I mean I think what I've heard
(43:25):
is is very more than sufficient evidence that there's probable
cause he committed a crime there, I mean many different crimes,
you know, and so yeah, that you know, as as
far as the elements of the facts, and if there's
enough probable cause to arrest somebody or indict somebody for
a criminal offense. Absolutely, any you know, objective person, clear
(43:46):
eyed person, you would see that. Now can you defend
him politically? Though? Oh? Could? I could defend any I
get defending anybody. Okay, anybody, the nastiest person you've ever
seen in your life. I will defend it, and I
will go too bad for that motherfucker, that nasty motherfucker.
All right, so um, but but anybody who's you know,
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but now you know is a president. I'm going to
go to an ex president and you know, I I
don't know. I think there's political things that I will
get real crazy, but legally, like as a defense attorney, yes,
there's sufficient evidence in you know my view, I'm curious.
Thank you for your insight. Uh it's now trying to
do the high fire with Lonnie the Street Lawyer. Just
some good fun, simple fact questions and good fun, good fun.
(44:32):
Question number one how are you the first time you
spoke cannabis? And where'd you get it from? I was
fourteen and uh, one of my friends, one of my
friends got he said let's do it, and you know
his mama was out of town. It was like two
of us. It was an orange reduced carton and the
silver foil and a thing. Uh. And I took a
couple of hits, but I didn't get high that time.
(44:54):
They did not get high. The third time I got high. Yeah,
sometimes I think it's your your adrenaline pumping and takes
a couple of times. Portion number two of the high five.
What is your favorite way to use or smoke cannabis?
Now a lot of people will understand this, but most
people will not. Now I smoke only splits. Excuse exactly,
(45:19):
people don't. Our godfather smoked nothing but splits. So all
these little smart mouth young and see me rolling a split,
You don't, Oh my god, I go bro our gups,
Bob Marley. I mean, we smoked spliffs and look at you.
You're young and smoke so um. So when I did
a study abroad in Spain when I was like twenty
or something, and everybody was rolling just this soft rolling
(45:41):
tobacco and just sprinkling there has she shone. It's like
year two thousand and that's what we did, you know,
And I got used to it. We would walk around
doing in Barcelona and and I really liked it. So
when I came back, I started rolling it with my
So no matter how good the weeds, no matter what,
if you have a joint, do jesh weed, They're like,
I'm my own. Yeah, it's got to be a spliff,
(46:03):
and the spliff has to be we don't just like no,
it's almost more of a laced cigarette. Yeah, I've seen
your rolling, and everything you're describing is exactly because you're
not only that you're tobacco was a different looking tobacco
that I'm used to as well. You have a little
hair like horse hair looking. It's like you know what
I mean, Like it's a different tobacco leaf that I'm
(46:25):
not used to sin and then you crumpled your weed
on top keeping you see from the distance in the
corner of mine. You know, listen, bro, this ship you
know nowadays we all know how good this ship is. Yeah,
if you smoke the big as joint at least me
if I smoke a little bit. I would I would
probably be you know, maybe not as sharp as I
(46:46):
want to. Yeah. Yeah, But if I just sprinkle it, also,
I could smoke more throughout the day. If I smoke
a big you know, I can't. I like smoking, I like,
you know, so if I just roll spliffs, I can
kind of keep it going and enjoy it. I like
that favorite way because the bottom line is I think
got that line all the time. Excuse me, while it's
just Bob Marty Classic the Street Lawyer, craziest place you
(47:08):
ever used cannabis are smoked. And you're a lawyer, so
you might have been in a house or two. Man,
that's a good question. I've smoked pretty much everywhere I've
ever been. So you know in court, in court, no,
I you know, I wouldn't quite smoke in court, man,
(47:30):
in in a chamber, in any of that building when
you walk into that building. I wish I had a
good answer for this, you know, I said, I take
you know, planes, a plane. No, I don't want to
get kicked ten years ago. Did you smoke on a plane?
I spoke on the plane all the time. I literally
(47:50):
I put a vape like a vape. I'll smoke. I
was on a plane vape. I blowed in my uh
inside of my blanket or whatever. I'm good. I do
it all the time. Yeah, pretty pretty recklessly actually yeah,
like seriously like so's so like like I know I'm
(48:11):
pissing this mom off next to me with her kid,
but yeah, I'm doing that. Do you want to fun like?
I don't want to funk with no plane ship in
the middle of the air. You want, I mean a
good boy on the bottom. He said it right, He's
recklessly about it, and now only that that was the
plane guards that made him drop his juice on him
for open this thing up. And I guess it was avocado.
Oh that's so funny and awesome. It's that green sugar.
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You can't think of a crazy place, Lonnie. No, nothing
that's good. I know this is terrible, man. I don't
want to make us something good. I do know. I mean,
people have ever been in Miami on a roof crazy
could be like a cool crazy like I was on
this rooftop with five chicken. It was the most cla
crazy cool you know, crazy could be crazy? Yeahs not
(48:53):
every rooftop I've ever been on. I'm just saying, you know,
magical moment. It could be a magical crazy moment. Thank
you daniel Son for bringing a napkin for blues. You
know what? Here, how about this, I'm going to create
one for you before our next session. And I'm going
to create one. Okay, I can't wait to hear it. Well,
then I'll move on to question number four, which is
(49:14):
what is your go to munchies after you do get high?
Mr thin and fitting? Push up boy? Okay, if you
want a healthy munchiese right, I'm sure you do healthy
munchiese um. You know, peanuts or trail mix is kind
of rich. My granola up here, I just bring up granola.
You don't think that about rye oats? And why did
they sell that? Who buys the green oats? No, I
(49:36):
just got this new peanut butter granola, and I'll do
peanut butter and blueberries together. Oh yeah, peanut butter, granola
and blueberries mixed together. And then it's just water and
oh right, right right, and I'm getting that good food
fruit you can go fruits, um, you know, and then
just you know, just don't have to look. Here's the thing.
If you don't have chips and chocolate Oreos and all
(49:58):
that ship in your house. You don't gotta worry about
eating that ship if you're worried about that, Because some
people come to me and they're like, I'm very worried
about that. I'm maintaining my weight, like the munchies is
a big deal. Have you always been fit like this? Yeah,
I've always worked out hard and just stay game ready,
like you're getting ready for the game next week, exactly, right,
like we're staying game ready. I just had a conversation
with Tito my mind, this guy earlier, right, Tato Tato
(50:20):
who works with Exhibit, and I go, I go trying
to get it back, and he's got the injury, right,
So I'm trying to go to the gym again. I'm
trying to get it back against injured or I was
laid up for four months, you know what I mean.
I couldn't so I lost. I lost weight, but I
lost on my muscle. So I'm just trying to get
it back. And you were able to stay thin throughout that, Yeah, exactly.
But my point is I see that, which is funny.
So it's hard to eat right when he's Here's what
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I do really if it's a night you know, when
I get the munchies of what I usually do. I'm
not a big drinker, but I'll pull myself a little
drink and you just sip on that. Now, if you're
like an alcoholic or whatever, and that I'll get you crazy.
That's my story. But yeah, it's over twenty three years ago.
A drink leads me to where Monnie, I'm in Miami.
Where are you at? I'll pick you up right away.
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Question every five with the high five with Lonnie the
street lawyer. Find him in the d V Find him
in Miami, find him in New York. Find him McKaley.
He's my brother from another mother. If you could smoke
cannabis with anyone, who would be Um? Well, when you
you know, you talked about our godfather. Excuse me. I
know you're thinking, and I was already talking about that.
(51:26):
But I think there's a deep shade. I think there's
a deep of cliche. Um. It is cliche, um, somebody
thinking about I was thinking about Albert Einstein. Okay, That's
what I'm saying, you know, But and why why why? Well,
his way of thinking would be so beyond exotic. I
mean he's talking about stuff physics, and you know that
I couldn't even imagine, and I know, just knowing what
(51:48):
he's contributed intellectually the scientists, it would just be a
crazy gas experience spoke with him. Yeah, I agree. It's
one of those ones where I mean Albert Einstein for
God and it's fun. I don't know if you know this,
but Mark and Craig Wasser and their dad looks just
like him. He's done paid gigs where he does commercials
as in Einstein really cool on I am dB fucking
(52:11):
acting credentials for that role ongoing, damn you and you
know the dad smokes of course, so you might be
able to get the next best thing. He's played Einstein
and like Nike commercials with Jordan's like that Spike Lee
and like back in the day, like he's been taking
(52:33):
Remember that commercial that was his dad. So that was
his dad that played Einstein and the Jordans fucking and
I rememberercial because that was when we're you're younger and
when that Jordan's and your East Coast guy, so you
definitely remember exactly. So his dad was the Einstein in
that random Nike Spike Lee commercial which is just even
more funny that you say that, and you know Mark
and Craig so you can make this happen later. Actually,
(52:56):
I was just talking to More and Craig to the day. Actually,
me and Mark come buying. Craig was like, how's your
ankle doing? Like, don't act like you care now it's
been four months as whole given him a hard time. No, no,
he came to my birthday party, my fiftieth birthday party
here where you were here and checking. I wish you
were in town. I should have invited joining it. I
feel I'm still feeling guilty that I didn't know. We
gotta make it that much exactly, And I'm looking at Pitt, going,
(53:19):
it's pittsfall. I'm about to blame Pit for it. But Pitt,
why don't we think of it now? He would have been, Yeah,
we had such a good time though, but it looks
pretty pretty too big to blame. I like to blame
the guys who look skinny and weak. In my head,
I'm still bigger than Pit, you know, saying I'm still
bigger than Pits. So no matter how big Pitt is
Joe's head, I'm still like way bigger I'm like, I'll
barking him all day. Yeah. Man, so funny and that's
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so different. I mean you must have. It's lost hundred
pounds and it's been a while, lones Is there anything
else that you want to promote let anybody know before?
Like I said, it's indeed, d C Miami and of
course New York City. Um, everybody's welcome. You know, this
community is open to everybody. Don't want to thank any
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of the SLS fan from d C New York Miami
who come to us. Um, we're so grateful and we
we we accept it. We want you want your friends
as family, as community. So we got you and thank you.
Thank you very much. You guys, it's such a pleasure
to have you. And anytime you want to come here,
Lonnie and you come to California, you're here. We're gonna
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touch base with you on the East Coast. I know
that because I just feel like there's more things that
we need to be doing together. Yeah, I mean, like
out there anything else. Honestly, we had no um, we
had no guests right because we have this event coming up,
so we've been trying to stay away from having a
lot of guests and and then a lot of hits me.
I'm like, yeo, a lot of the town. We gotta
get him on the show. It's funny. And then he
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hits me, and then I'm already on it. And then
I'm like, we're not even hitting you. But I'm like, oh, yeah,
I told Lonnie going Doug, we'll get you in there
when I come to work. I'm in a book and
then you already talked. Oh. I'm like, we're already on
the same page. You can't go wrong, bro, haven't you.
He said a lot, He can't go wrong. Listen, thanks
for being so gracious to me as well and presenting
me the way you did. Appreciate you all. That's that's you.
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from another mother, from the East Coast all the way
out to the West Coast to kick it with the
fan Bam. Lonnie Bramson, a k a. Lonnie the Street
Lawyer is a cannabis influencer, a radio personality, and owner
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founder of Law Offices of Lonnie Bromson and Street Lawyer Services.
Now Lonnie has been you guys, the street Lawyer forever.
This is the guy you know. He's a high profile
criminal defense attorney. That's what his get up was forever,
a cannabis advocate in the d C metropolitan area that
has represented over five thousand criminal defendants from drugs, weapons,
felony charges of all types, and even murder in some cases.
(01:52):
So he's a smart cookie. He knows how to get
you out of a few things. One number to keep
in your back pocket for sure. For more than one reason,
he owns the law office is of Lonnie Brahmson in
Silver Springs, Maryland, where he's not really practiced too much,
but you know he's still a lawry folks. The bottom
line Defense Attorney and Street Lawyer Services in North DC,
which is a marketing offices for his legal practice. Now
(02:12):
at at sl S, they sell discounted cupons redeemable for
legal services and reads on their websites, and all coupons
come with an option free cannabis gift of your choice.
We're gonna talk all about that and more. Others may
also recognize Lonnie for being an outspoken voice of the
logic and the fact base analysts and the d m
(02:35):
V and beyond as a guest host of DC one
oh ones Clinger Show on Tuesday nights, which was also
on I Heart Radios, where listeners from around the d
m V used to listen to this fly ass guy
preaching teach on the microphone like it was a bone,
holding it and giving his knowledge and uh, listeners all
around loved it, which was awesome. And in any case,
now he's here with us to share his knowledge and experience.
(02:58):
Give it up, ladies and gentlemen, for Lonnie. There's Street Lawyer.
Yeah right, Lonnie, you're hustling your game. You want it longer,
You want it longer. See how long it ago? Get whatever?
This man? You see him now? You like that, Lonnie?
That's what you get. Man. That was nice. I'll see
(03:19):
you all later. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I'll come
back at for he do. That was that you've earned that.
That's you. That's what you've done. People need to recognize
who you are. And that kind of sums it up
without the detail of all your hard work. But let's
just go back to the young Lonnie. We've had you
on the show before, But what makes you even decide
to become a lawyer. I wanted this young kid first
(03:41):
before this whole game of you doing what you're doing
what you say, because the lawyer is what's got you
into what you're doing now right, everything that will. First
of all, I'm honored to be here, Thank you, man.
This is an esteemed crowd right here in this seat,
you know, um and in those seats. So anyway, you know,
every step in my life led to this point, and
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every single thing that happened to us, good or bad.
Everything that happened us good or bad, mistakes or successes,
whatever leads you to exactly where you are, and you
and you of course and everybody. I became a lawyer
because you know, my dad never really had any luck
in business, and my mom was a school teacher. And
right away my dad saw it, like all this business
(04:23):
at the inventory, I can't keep up with it. Let
me make my kids just sell their time. That's how
he saw. You could always sell your time when things
go bad, sell your time. That's how he saw it.
So he always pushed it, and I'm like, you know,
and then I looked into it, I'm like, damn, that
sounds like the easiest option to to get to a
good point in life, you know. I mean it's four
years of undergrad, which I was planning new anyway, just
(04:44):
three more years, I mean, go to a doctor. It's
like eight more years. That's what I was thinking, you know.
I was looking at it, you know, and just real practically,
because all I wanted to do was play anyway, you
know what I'm saying. I just wanted to play. You know.
I never wanted to do any of that, you know,
but I knew I had to. But so then, um,
you know, I just went that path that never doubted it,
(05:05):
went to undergrad at Stanford and then went to law
school in Columbia, and uh, I didn't know what the
hell was going on in law school. I didn't understand
any of this ship. The only thing I understood was
the ship. I saw Perry Mason and Matt Lock, that
old stuff, you know, when I was a little watching
it with my dad, And I'm like, well, you know,
let me explore that. So I became a public defender,
(05:27):
uh in Baltimore. And then I'm like, okay, this is
what I like. You know, criminal defense. You're on your feet,
you're in court, people people you know, you know, yeah,
and you're always you know, when you talk fifty people
in the courtroom, a guy on the road, everybody shuts
the funk up and listens to you. Not that I
was thirsty for that, but that was the reality compared
(05:47):
to like corporate you don't even meet people. You're a
small part of a big piece. Respect. Can you listen
to me in a corporate environment where you're a lawyer,
they have to listen when you're in court exactly exactly.
You could be just like, you know, just the public
defender that just got out of law school. That's all
frumpy and everybody's gonna shut the funk up while you talk,
(06:09):
you know. But but anyway, so that was exciting because
I was doing people stuff. You know, it wasn't you know,
I wasn't in uh in an office very much, and
you know I can't do that. So um, I got
real into the criminal defense. You know, I'm all kinds
of big problems come your way and you you are
in charge of trying to solve them, to say this
guy's ass right or wrong, good or bad? You know
(06:32):
what I'm saying. So you know that was my whole
thing is like, you know, it's not it's not only
about you know, what about the innocent guys who get charged,
Now this is a small part. What about the guilty
guys to get charged? Those guys is the majority, and
you gotta get them good results, save their asses, you know.
You know, it's it's not about the innocent prisoner. You know,
(06:52):
you have to exonerate, that's important, of course, but that's
you know, what's the guys that are guilty that you
actually gotta get that, yeah, or at least like yeah,
like saved there, you know the last part of their
kids childhood with that, you know what I'm saying, so
you started seeing a love for that too, and that's
the direction you went because of all the criminal stuff
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that you watched as a kid, going, I bet I
can get these guys better. Well yeah, and just like
the excitement of it. I just wanted excitement, you know.
And I was always into you know, what's going on
the streets and culture, you know, um with you know,
within a city, within the neighborhood. That was always real
into that. So it was it was good. It was
good because it feels like, you know, in the streets,
everybody needs one of those you know what I'm saying.
(07:33):
A captain's like, yo, go to Lani, he can hook
you up. Yeah, you know, I became real familiar with
the DC neighborhoods and streets, said that for fifteen years.
So after a while, you do a good job, and
you know, you come at them right, they'll tell their
friends and any interesting cases that you can talk about, well,
I mean, you know it's all the cases are public record.
So what's confidential is what I spoke about with my client.
(07:55):
Sure you see what I'm saying. So everything else is
public record. So can you tell us about Yeah, I
mean had a one that was like interesting, like yo,
like I didn't think we get this one, yeah, or
a good one. All right? This is all gang gang stuff, right,
so uh, you know in neighborhood rights right outside of
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d C, Latino neighborhood name called Langley Park, heavy gang activity,
and I represented all those guys, you know, when they
got in trouble. So he was the allegation. There was
a guy who just testified against MS thirteen leaders in
Virginia and each of them got like a hundred years.
It was insane. It's like two thousand and eight, two
(08:38):
thousand nine because they were cracking down hard. And then
he's got and this guy testified against him. So this
guy himself did a couple of years in prison, got out,
and for some reason, he's hanging out on a playground
in the middle of Langley Park and he just testified
against MS thirteen leaders. I mean he's the point. He's
hanging out by himself, like with a girl, like an
(08:59):
underaged girl or so something. So what happens the allegation
is at my client and a couple of his friends
um recognized him, approached him and stabbed the ship out
of him and robbed him. He somehow made it so
the guy somehow stumbles off blood everywhere. Someone calls the police,
you know, ambulance come and yeah, saved his life. So
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so this happens in my client, they say was the ringleader.
You know, my client has no tattoos or anything none.
You know, the young guys, the guys born here, they
don't get tattoos. A lot of times if they're heavy
in the gang, like no tattoos. That's kind of but anyway, um, yeah,
he come up, he declares that he no, no, no,
you know, I don't know what anybody talking about around here.
(09:44):
I am innocent. Let's go to trial. Yeah no, I
don't know. So um at trial, what's funny is my
client is, uh no tattoos. You know, he looks pretty
clean cup. But you know he's accused of being oj.
You know, they essentially ordered these other guys to go
stab that guy, you know what I mean. So the
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witness against him looks like one of these guys in
the jail videos of El Salvador. That the witness who
already testified against the leaders and got the hundred years,
and now here he is againting court testifying again. You
know what I'm saying. And what's funny is the guy's
presence looked like tatted up faced, a crazy you know, vivid,
(10:30):
you know, you know, and you don't. You don't see
many guys who that look like that around Maryland and
d C. Almost none. Ever, he's like the first one,
you know what I mean. And I'm like, you know,
like to the Jerry. So so he's the gangster, but
he's not the gangswer. So wait wait, that's the gangster there,
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you know. And so it was a crazy cross examination.
It was a crazy situation. But uh my clank got
convicted of a couple of things. And here's the craziest part.
All right, so he got convicted. Man, he was fucking
good dude, his family good people. Um you know, there
was evidence that he was definitely involved in the game.
Of course, you know, there was evidence. But um so
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he ended up getting eleven years and it was it
was ten years suspend five and eleven years suspend five.
So that means he gets eleven years, right, So I've
never seen ten eleven were suspended, correct, So you know,
but the judge was saying in a complicated way, so
that that's the sentence, and bro this guy was calm,
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like a guy sitting on a park bench in Central
Park during the whole trial. Okay, like paying attention. He
wasn't like you know, but he was just very focused listening.
I mean, bro, he didn't give me a hard time, nothing.
And so finally he was walking away. They put her
hand on. I go, hey, momm and I go, so
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that's eleven years and he looks at me like this,
it looks back. He goes, no problem and walks away. Wow,
he said no problem. Yeah, bro, the way he said it.
And it wasn't for the fat There was nobody there. Yeah,
it was no girls around. Yeah, you girls around. It
wasn't to be cool, yeah, it was just it was
(12:18):
just that was a crazy, crazy little story. Crazy story
you ever heard from him? Since? No, But I saw
him on a reconsideration and we lowered his sentence a
little bit and he was jacked as fuck. And I
asked of us, if so, so, how are things, you know,
(12:39):
how are things here with you? Because he got convicted
of witness intimidation, witness assault and all that, So I go,
how are things in there for you? He goes, great,
in there, bro, I'm great? What he didn't snitch. He
got went down for witness intimidation means he went out
of witness bro o G O G. Stay. He walked
in and everything's cool. He could have his you got
(13:00):
a high seat he walked in. Yeah, yeah, you know what
what I'm saying. I think about it. He got he
got a package. Right when he got here, he gets like,
oh here you go, here you go. I mean it's
kind of like the best way to get in there.
You know what was alleged wit. You know, under his circumstances,
the best scenario was the best scenario. Like he played
(13:21):
it out right. I think he's out and doing you know,
I think he's he's living a good life now. Again,
though that's crazy. Let's take a break and talk about
how you got into the cannabis game, because that's gonna
be even more interesting. Is Lonnie the Street Lawyer here
on Cannabis Talk one on one. We were right back
after this. Keep it luck, We'll be right back with
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that was a great story, dude. I love how you
tell stories too. You're just great energy. Ever, from the
(14:13):
first time we met you two every time I see you,
you're You're awesome. Now talk to us and tell the audience.
How does this game go from defending criminals to going
me think of shelling cannabis because it's all the great
line of criminalism because I know the law and I
could do this legally, not legally, How do white fucking
(14:34):
convinced myself to do what I'm doing? Now? Where does
that transition happen? Yeah? Man, I mean there was a
little bit of that thought process that's kind of accurate.
But you know, I was I was looking at the
environment there, and I was looking at the path in
my own life. And this is in the D n
B and DR so gift he started like two d C.
That's where first started for correct because now you're in
(14:56):
New York and all this other episodes started right back
at Athlete actually, so you know, I knew a lot
of people in the cannabis industry through um you know
through my work, you'd okay, everybody all the time, and
different of course, and so you know, I just knew
a lot of these people, and and so I knew
(15:19):
what was going on in the scene, and it was
gifting shops. Gifting shops were huge, which means like, you know,
they have a pop up before they have a pop up,
and a couple of vendors, you know, set up tables
bucks on the street or an apartment or in a
lounge or in a little space in DC, in New
York too, everywhere they do these. But that was the
only way. And some of these vendors were making a
(15:40):
little money and said, well this like, let me get
a storefront. The police aren't hassling us. So they started
getting storefronts and gifting from the storefronts. And I was
a consumer at first, uh you know, and I used
to love it. I walked in, I bought like a
Bruce Lee sticker for a hundred dollars and got you know,
a quarter of some good ship. And you know, I
wasn't too I didn't. I wasn't on the Instagram, weed
(16:02):
pages or anything back then. But then I decided to
go a different fucking path in my life because I
was a lawyer. I saw this opportunity and I decided
to parlay that brand, which was Longing the Street Lawyer.
That brand was from the radio when I was on
the radio, was long in the Street Layer in d
C for five years. So I worked it. I parlayed
(16:23):
the brand and then it was Street Lawyer Services, so
um Street Lawyer Services where we could sell legal coupons
and gift the weed. So we started it as a
marketing office for the law office of Lonnie Bramson. So
the idea was to sell legal coupons and give the
weed to obviously alert different people into the shop and
(16:45):
wanting to buy the legal coupons and use my services,
and they'd get the weed gifts. So that was sort
of the premise, you know, because we weren't sure how
strict they would be about the actual gifting at first,
you know what I mean. So that was the premise
in as legit as hell, you know, you but you
spend a hundred dollars for two d coupon and you
(17:05):
know you want the services and then you get the weed.
But you know, of course, after a while, less and
less people cared about the coupon they have to take.
You have to take if we throw it at that Yeah,
out the way out, all right, you just have to
walk out with them. But don't security to block the door. Sorry, man,
(17:28):
kick me. Yeah. So, um, you know, we're real strict.
But then you know, repeat customers come in all the time,
and you know they get a regular It's more of
a dispensary conversation. And you know the products in there
are dispensary quality, good dispensary. Sure. You know, if we're
going to gift, you might as well gift the good ship.
(17:50):
Why not? Why so? Um? So, you know, that really
blew up, and a lot of gifting shops in DC
are doing that now. But the brand blew up when
you know, when we really started getting into it and
marketing so visibly on Instagram and and so vividly with
the weed, so vividly about it. Not many people were
(18:13):
doing that. And this is two, you know, and we
just went real um aggressive with the with the display
and the culture, real aggressive with it. So we had
all the SLS women, which which are my bud tenders,
are called SLS women. They gave themselves that name, not me,
(18:33):
Hey you guys, no, no, no, no organically, you know,
so lawyers services. So the bood tenders in Miami, New
York and will get into that are all SLS women
and you know, so we were really displaying the culture,
you know, with the weed with the women and really,
you know, people were very low key about it back then.
(18:55):
That's the thing, you know they were. They were just
all innuendo and you know we were real will open
with straight open with it and you don't do whoa.
But that helped create cannabis culture in d C. And
a vibe for you that made this the st lawyers
the craziest fucking dude out there. You see what he's
doing online and you see what he's doing everywhere and
(19:16):
he's a real lawyer, right. I mean, it made this
vibe of like what is it? It's crazy? Right? But
I see I got our all attention, like who is
this dude? Right? So, and it was all listened. The
bottom line is for me to have fun. Okay, I'm
having fun, but even more bottom line, for everybody else
around me to have fun. So I'm looking around everybody
(19:36):
smiling having fun. The consumer vendor relationship is the most
beautiful consumer vendor relationship I've ever seen or been involved with.
You know, they come in and they thank you, you know,
and and they talk about their lives when they come in, Oh,
I need something to help me sleep. Oh why you
can't sleep well because this happened? I oh should this
happened to my grandma? And boom boo bom, and we
come to therapy session. Yeah, people, they come in next time.
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But this cookies and it's a family thing in d C.
It's like such a community. That's a beautiful thing. Like
people are like come in. It's it's like it we
created a community for people. And I'll tell you what.
We creates communities for people. And a lot of people
have trouble finding communities. Maybe they're not into this sport
or this religion or whatever, but we gives them that.
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You know, a lot of lonely people are into weed too.
And when they come in and they have something, they
have some sort of social gatherings, some sort of there
could be the gathering of the inverteds over there that
are all cannabis inverted people where it's and I've noticed
it with cannabis consumers that around when we have events
here on the campus and those the group of like
(20:43):
the inverts that I've already know who I know are
inverts and they all connect together like look at but
I joked to them pin oh, and they all don't
know and I break the guys going, oh, the group
of inverts are together? Why because I know you you, you,
you and you, and you're all inverts. And it's funny
how you say that. And I've seen that dynamic happen
here on the campus as we grow organic relationships here.
I've seen that happen. It's so funny because even people
(21:05):
who might find themselves to be rare and not have
many commonalities with people, if they smoke weed. That's the
one thing. And yes, so we create community. We creates
community for a lot of people that wouldn't otherwise have it. Yeah,
I believe that. I really believe that because I think
there's a lot of people that that don't like to
socialize and and and but they will if you're smoking
(21:27):
a joint with them, you know, it's like oh here, boom,
and they could they could socialize on something that they
that they get that the other person gets. And then
you know, there's other people that are super social that
smoke to slow down to be like, yeah, I need
to calm down, you know, smoking on the pound, trying
to calm down. Then you know, and then and then
there's and then there's people that that I think, you know,
do it for their illnesses. You know, they're like they're
(21:48):
sick and they needed for appetain, pain and so and
so on. So I I do believe that there's a
community based you know scenario there right when you look
at it, it really does, because just think about it.
There's those who like to smoke by themselves too, but
it's more of a gathering social thing that I look
at it as well, from the earliest times of smoking
(22:10):
with my first brothers and a group of friends to
where it wasn't by myself. Were like, you know, you didn't,
Oh I'm gonna smoke, and the person has that experience,
I'm sorry, but maybe somebody does. But it's usually with
somebody else, right, Like that's how it starts. Starts at
least somebody teaches you and shows you because it's a gathering.
And that's kind of a symbolic, realistic what it is
because all kinds, in my opinion, so much good comes
(22:33):
from it, right, and it's good conversations good vibes. It's
not like something bad happens whenever community is orchanically happened.
There's never a shootout. When there's a there's not you know,
never a shooting like an alcohol when worst case scenarios,
some sort of awkward silences in between lasting Okay, you're like,
(22:59):
just happen, get a little sensitive, maybe somebody might get
a little emotional. But yeah, you know scenarios. It's not
like it's different from getting together and drinking there there's
something different about the bot you know, and you know
drinking school, but um, there's something just it just feels
a little dirtier with than than just sharing a joint
with somebody I don't know, you know, because if you
(23:21):
have too many, somebody might act up. It's so true.
And in that DC area which has just gotten so
much noise, we had a guy in here from the
DNB what was his name, agame of the artist, the
rapper kid. He's crushing her right now. What is that
young Jack has? Jack Hash was here is here from
the d n V, A young little artist kids. But
my point to that area as it's gotten shows on.
(23:44):
I'm sure you've seen an Apple TV this and that
there's other people coming out from the d n B
makeing a lot of noise. How did that community accept
what you're doing selling cannabis. I mean, other people are
doing as well. But you're a lawyer from the community.
You're you're symbolic in the areas, grew up in the air,
you have more history. Oh Miami, okay, Oh here Miami.
But get that right, Miami vibe. You're strong, Miami vibe.
(24:09):
You're like a portrait of Miami in my book, Like
when I think of the whole cat in Miami. Lonnie
the street lawyer would be our guy that would be
rocking there in New York and would walk me to
the streets of New York and Olive Boroughs exactly. Absolutely,
any opportunity to hang out with you, let's go. You know.
Um wait, you asked me something I did, which was
(24:31):
the not to transition the way that the people in
d C. How do you accept of us? How they
how do they accept you like that? And because it
became so successful and now that we're gonna take a
break real quick, and how do they accept you and
then go to multiple states now? Because now you're not
only there, you're taking over the East Coast. We're to
come back and hear that answer. It's Cannabis Talk one
oh one. We'll be right back with Lonnie the Street Lawyer,
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question before we went, you know, answer that now. Yeah,
I mean so much love. I mean so much love.
I mean they just Miami boy coming into the d
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n B. D NB is a local that that they're
They're a family neighborhood area. Yeah, yeah, there are people
probably don't realize how much of that there is, how
much sort of a lot of history, like not quintessential.
The word I'm looking for is uh, colloquial colloquial culture
of the DMV. What's colloquial? What does that mean? It's
just like a family heritage tied of the community, like um,
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like very specific to that community. You know, when you
think you speak colloquial colloquial talk in l A, is
you know some you know some words, um, Bay Area
would be hell a dopey Bay Area slang l A.
You know, we do. What's but like the DMV has
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their their thing too. That's what's up exactly in DC.
The big thing is everybody's Obama. These Bamas over there
you refer to a group of guys as a group Obamas,
like oh god, no, this is Bama. Everything's Obama and
it's good or bad whatever. Yeah, it always starts off
like you you call somebody's like dorky, like that guy's
at bamaun with it. After a while you just call
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it like any group of guys. Okay, we're gonna go
hang out with Obama. Yeah, I love it. That Bama
weed that's in the bag in the SSC. So the crew,
they're just embraced you. The community. Um, you know, I
got magazine articles right away. Things. Really, you know, it
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blew up in such a positive way for me. It
was amazing, amazing, Um how much love because going on
the air and giving those services a way, I would
imagine that's what gave you that like you're here for
us vibe. Because when you go on the radio and
you're giving out advice, legal advice, you become like the
guy that's teaching folks and educating folks, and you're from
the streets. So you're giving me like a ha ha,
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the street guy made it and he's teaching us the game.
Well yeah, you know there's some of that, you know,
But when I first started A lot of people came
in there like I can't believe this. You know, I've
been listening to you on the radio and wow, I
didn't you know why, you know, they thought, But now
so many years have passed it. A few people coming like, oh,
I used, you know, used to listen to you on
the radio some though, but um, but yeah, I was
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there to help everybody. You know. I wasn't really a
controversial person. I don't think I am now. I mean,
I just like to make people smile and have fun.
Everybody's welcome, everybody's there's no oh. And this last trip
we were all in l A. This time, I'm just
here do low nice? Well you're you told us you're
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here visiting family, which is nice to have family in
the West. And then how does it going to New York?
Is it the first to jump? Like, how does that
jump happen for you? And you get that acceptance out there? Right?
The first jump was to Miami. So we opened up
in Miami because we realized we could sell Delta eight,
which is a very end of Delta. They still there,
but not only that, we're selling the edibles that are
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Delta nine, but point three of the total because that's
the point. So they're Delta nine, but they're like sugarcubes
like this. So imagine you get like six thousand milligrams
in a sugar cube and fifteen milligrams are of th HC.
Wow that she gets you fucked up, and it's illegal.
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So that's what we sell them, Delta nine legal, Delta nine, right,
so it's legal to do that the way that's point three. Yeah,
well you could do that here too, right, Kelly and
Kelly Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean and it's
funny because you sat smoke shops. Yeah, crazy to roll
that out right now at the ton of the it's
crazy to think that that's the game and you could
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do it right now, Like you just said. That's so
a lot of people still lines of like this can
still go and and there's th h C A and
there's all these new dis Yeah. Yeah, there's so many
new little things that keep coming out, which is good
for the industry. I like, for me, it's like this,
if you have ever sold cannabis and then now you're like,
well all these guys are soing Delta and I'm like,
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what are you talking about. That's how we got th
HC Delta nine on the market is by you know,
being what do they call, uh, you know, front runners
are you know, creating a creating a model and going
out there and doing it. And so don't don't don't
don't hate on the innovators that came after you. Yeah, sure,
for sure it feels like there's some of that going on. Yeah. Well,
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some people are like, oh, these guys selling Delta A,
that's not right. But bom like, dude, you're selling cannabis.
But you were selling cannabis before it was legal to
So how how can you even say that? I mean,
it's not you know, you're not giving them L s D,
you know what I'm saying. That's different if you're like, oh,
they're fucking selling l s D out there. They're getting
them all fucked up and there's or what are the
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stuff that was making making crazy and spice or whatever number. Yeah,
but I mean, if if you're doing that ship, that's different.
You could say, oh, that's fucked up. But people in
the cannabis industry got to realize that we're evolving and
there's new products evolving, and some of these products definitely
will have I believe, medical value. As what's the key
blue right there. The medical value and not only that
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they're gonna have value to whoever else is taking them,
because we don't know who those products are gonna be
able to help medically, mentally, emotionally. There's so many different
ways physically. I mean now that it could help these
people where we don't know, well, they're going into psilocybin
right now and saying that it has medicinal value, and
now it hasn't been, you know, said by the state
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of the country. But I think it's enough to open set.
It's legal, so it's it's coming. I mean, you know, no,
that's what I'm saying. I think it's I think it's
it definitely has you know, it's medicinal value. And I
can't wait for them to be having the capsules and
everything else everywhere, like in smoke shops and everything else.
But I can't move with a breakdown like this little bit.
At most of the gifting shops in d C they
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gifted mushrooms as well. We don't, but most of do.
You can buy mushrooms in any of the shops, So
you guys, I don't want to put Miami, Miami, Miami's
a neighborhood. It's right on Miami Beach on Fifth Street.
It's a dope shop, man, so many people coming in
and out. All our girls there, that's the less women
are all dancers for club space and it's a dope vibe. Man.
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It's very cool. And as it allows there, you know,
not allonge. Yeah, gifting, so we're selling dealt to eighty
and uh, but go there and visit and you know,
and then New York, so New York changed the law,
legalized cannabis, legalized weed possession. So when they legalize it,
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when they legalize possession, but there's no recreational market, that's
where gifting comes in. That's the gifting because when they
legalized possession, a lot of possess and you're allowed to
gift to your friend because obviously it's not like you're
allowed of possession. You give somebody a nug and then
police come arrest you for a felony. Right, So it's
always written into the way. Yeah, you know. So you
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go in there and buy a sticker or a hat
or something and then you get, you know, a gift.
Oh and here's your free gift. Is that what you say?
And here's your free gift, you know at the beginning, Yeah,
but of course it gets much more casual, like, Yo,
you want the weed, motherfucker give me the money. I'll
give you the motherfucking weed. Yeah, you know at the
end it gets like that. Yeah, but the first for
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the first ten times in time, how are you until
I know you're coming back? What what kind do you want?
Kind of like that that that that that that that
that that that you just win a carnival ride? Okay,
now you're done with a ride on a legal on
a legal standpoint, though, you know what happens. You know,
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if someone does get if he does get raided, it
would happen. Are they dropping charges right now? Yes? So, um,
we were rated twice in d C. And actually, uh
you know there were arrests. Did you go to fight
for the absolutely? I hired lawyers. Obviously, I've take my
you know, that's the worst thing. I'm like, you can
go there, tear the place up, take anything, but like,
do you really have to arrest my girls? It's it's
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a game in d C. Because the prosecutor's office is
not interested in prosecuting these cases. But the police departments like, okay,
we're fine. You could go dismiss him, do what you
gotta do. We do what I gotta do. We we do,
we gotta do. So there's a little the other hand,
the other hand, guys. Yeah, so in New York there's nothing,
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no enforcements so far as far as you know. And
so we're gifting just like DC. So we want you know,
I saw the environment, you know, I saw the writing
on the wall, and I'm like, yeah, we've been gifting
for years, we know the gifting thing. New York is
about to step into the exact gifting territory where we've
thrived in d C. And there's just so much interplay
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with New York and DC. So many people. I've been
to the shop in DC. I've been to the shop
in New York. So they yeah, and Ronnie the Street,
your whole character fits perfect for New York vibe as well.
That's what I mean. It is so dope. It is great.
So where's it at in New York then Lower East Side? Yeah,
it's in the Hype, man, It's in the Hype eight
five Stanton. You know, we're open um to one am
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on the weekends and eleven pm on weekdays, and you
could smoke in there. It's a smoking lounge. We call
it the Cannabis Content Lounge. So, um, you walk in there,
you buy digital content. My partner there is Tony Tolka,
the legendary New York DJ okay good. So you could
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buy digital content, which is either video of Tony yeah,
or me and the girls hanging out and you know whatever,
and their content packs. So you buy the content which
is which is even better because your email happened. And
then they're like, what even then we can't are you
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then you can't get your weed? Here's my email. Yeah,
They're like, let me give me that right now. I
want weed at gmail dot com. You know what's funny.
I don't put my name nowhere. I don't put my
email nowhere. The second I walked into the gifting shop
before I owned it, Remember I told you I was
a consumer. The second I walk in there like naming email,
like fine, yeah, I'm not giving nobody, and they're like,
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go ahead, let's go. You might give your last four
year social Security because you want that so bad. I
didn't think about it. You get the last four probably would?
I mean the first five, the last give the first
five that's for sure, but the last four I'll give
mine on people exactly. My point is that that's as
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far as you would probably go, and I would go
to get a bag because you want your medicine or
you water bag. Right, It's not like people, it's not
it's not discretionary spending. For most it's they're they're gonna
get Yeah, I'm gonna get it one way another. Used
to be more of a discretionarything. But now you know
husbands and wives and girlfriends and boyfriends coming all the
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time to buy for their They don't smoke, but they
buy for their girlfriends, so they stay calm. Like a
lot of that going on, and a lot of old people,
a lot of elderly people. Lots of elderly people like
you'll see, I mean the variation of people who you
see in d C. You'll never see a variety of
people like that. I've never seen a more eclectic group.
We're talking like a guy from K Street with a suit,
you know, lobbyists, followed by a corner boy, followed by
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construction worker, followed by like a dude who looks like
he just got out of a half baked or something
tyedyed shirt, big beer, crazy every day dude, that's described
d C or we're out there. That was pretty accurate
because we were there. I felt like it was a
very eclectic that was that we were doing. We were
when cf n C National Cannabis. Yeah National. Did you
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go to that? That's a big yeah. I did, Yeah,
I did. They were They're glad. I hit you up.
I heard listen. I heard later from chef Phil Oh,
we see feel out there. Yeah, thanks for coming to
our party too. Nobody. I didn't know you were in fault.
So I'm gonna ask both of us. I might know.
I both of us made that happen. Made that I forgot. Yeah,
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I should have checked the next game is on, man,
and we should have checked in with you. It would
have been that much more players too. We had a
great time though, had a great time in the DC area,
but that whole area, like we said, it's just popping vibing.
That event was amazing that the culture there seems out
of this world, like you just described it, so eclectic
and cool and vibe. Because at that event it was
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so packed and it was just that group of you said,
a wonderful vibe out there. I'm loving the Cannabis Vibe
on the East Coast to the events that I've been
doing so far, well, you know, it's more exciting because
of the legalities, you know, because it's it's out of
it's in the gray area. There's no regulation, and people
could really express themselves within the space, both as vendors
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and as brands. You know, they can get real creative.
And remember d C. First of all, DC has been
gifting for longer than it should because there's a rider
on some legislation that they can't that DC won't be
able to use funds for a recreational market. The Republicans
are holding that up. So DC has been gifting for
like four years, five years now, and it's developing a
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sophisticated and you know, and and there's a lot of
different it's not only sophisticated. What is the word I'm
thinking about, it's it's highly populated. You know, there's gifting
shops opening up every day because gifting is going on
so long. You know, in New York giftings, it's about
to go recreational. They're doing legislation, they're starting to give
out licenses, so that's gonna have a shorter time period
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but DC just keeps going on and on part about
DC that baffles me when I just think about it. Geographically,
it's right next to the White House. There's Canada's being
gifted right there. It just really tickles me, to be
honest with you, in a way of why, because it
just doesn't make sense. The whole fucking electoral voting, the
cannabist thing, the whole DC area just makes me scratch
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my temples. And why do you what is this a
real state of fake state? You guys are right and
it says it's right there and you can see the
fucking president drive by a gifting shop that he's given away.
We that and it's the it's the real president of
the United States driving by. I'll tell you. It just
makes me giggle. Um, Kamala Harris, I know her. One
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of her staffers comes to our shot, so I know
that she's She's spoken to Kamala Harris about street lawyer services,
which is kind of interesting course, and who knows how
many how many are sending their people to come get
for them, which is my pleasure, of course, yes, my
great pleasure. But yeah, everybody, what is your gut feel
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about how many of those that are in the suits
that are actually working in Congress. When the flags are
up that come to town, do you see an increase
because we know now when the flags are up, Congresses
in sessions, so there are four more congressmen and women
from the fifty states are in town. It wouldn't move
the needle because the needle want move the needle, because
you know, we have people who come in from North Carolina,
is still from Delaware who can't get like, cannot do
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you notice anything in town in VC that does move
the needle because of the area we've are, Like, if
there's huge rallies in town, yeah, we'll get a flood
of people, whether it's we have we've had Trump's rallies,
um or you know what, other kind of whatever the
feminist route, we see flood of people. The craziest when
the Trump rallies come to town. Man, they you know,
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because my security are people you all are scurities, black
and big dudes, big dudes. And we have like you know,
I three like our girls mostly black or bit of color,
and they're just they walk real softly, real respectful. We're
all cool, of course, real soft. You want to come
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head on, go ahead, yeah, Hi guys. Hey, yeah, I'm
just here. Someone paid me to be here. But you
can tell that's a big influx of business. Yeah, you know.
And that's the funny part about d C because DC
gets those type of functions and different areas, where like
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a downtown l A would get as well, a different
type of influx, but more DC. Like I said, I
could see that being a factor. But if you still
think about I mean we we we feed from like
an area of you know, about four million, four million people,
you know, so you stay. I mean if if fifty
thousand come to town, you know, I don't know how
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much it moves they need anyway, But we have seen something,
especially the Trump We noticed very much in fact January
six that a little Trump people came in. What's going on?
Like as crazy as down there? Yea? What happened up
and went on there? And war? It's all going to
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be revealed. Now, how about this. You're a lawyer. You
have insight because you're a lawyer. What do you think
happens to the scenario of Trump being accused of being
known as you see this being unfolding and being firsthand
living there. Yeah, I mean I think what I've heard
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is is very more than sufficient evidence that there's probable
cause he committed a crime there, I mean many different crimes,
you know, and so yeah, that you know, as as
far as the elements of the facts, and if there's
enough probable cause to arrest somebody or indict somebody for
a criminal offense. Absolutely, any you know, objective person, clear
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eyed person, you would see that. Now can you defend
him politically? Though? Oh? Could? I could defend any I
get defending anybody. Okay, anybody, the nastiest person you've ever
seen in your life. I will defend it, and I
will go too bad for that motherfucker, that nasty motherfucker.
All right, so um, but but anybody who's you know,
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but now you know is a president. I'm going to
go to an ex president and you know, I I
don't know. I think there's political things that I will
get real crazy, but legally, like as a defense attorney, yes,
there's sufficient evidence in you know my view, I'm curious.
Thank you for your insight. Uh it's now trying to
do the high fire with Lonnie the Street Lawyer. Just
some good fun, simple fact questions and good fun, good fun.
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Question number one how are you the first time you
spoke cannabis? And where'd you get it from? I was
fourteen and uh, one of my friends, one of my
friends got he said let's do it, and you know
his mama was out of town. It was like two
of us. It was an orange reduced carton and the
silver foil and a thing. Uh. And I took a
couple of hits, but I didn't get high that time.
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They did not get high. The third time I got high. Yeah,
sometimes I think it's your your adrenaline pumping and takes
a couple of times. Portion number two of the high five.
What is your favorite way to use or smoke cannabis?
Now a lot of people will understand this, but most
people will not. Now I smoke only splits. Excuse exactly,
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people don't. Our godfather smoked nothing but splits. So all
these little smart mouth young and see me rolling a split,
You don't, Oh my god, I go bro our gups,
Bob Marley. I mean, we smoked spliffs and look at you.
You're young and smoke so um. So when I did
a study abroad in Spain when I was like twenty
or something, and everybody was rolling just this soft rolling
(45:41):
tobacco and just sprinkling there has she shone. It's like
year two thousand and that's what we did, you know,
And I got used to it. We would walk around
doing in Barcelona and and I really liked it. So
when I came back, I started rolling it with my
So no matter how good the weeds, no matter what,
if you have a joint, do jesh weed, They're like,
I'm my own. Yeah, it's got to be a spliff,
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and the spliff has to be we don't just like no,
it's almost more of a laced cigarette. Yeah, I've seen
your rolling, and everything you're describing is exactly because you're
not only that you're tobacco was a different looking tobacco
that I'm used to as well. You have a little
hair like horse hair looking. It's like you know what
I mean, Like it's a different tobacco leaf that I'm
(46:25):
not used to sin and then you crumpled your weed
on top keeping you see from the distance in the
corner of mine. You know, listen, bro, this ship you
know nowadays we all know how good this ship is. Yeah,
if you smoke the big as joint at least me
if I smoke a little bit. I would I would
probably be you know, maybe not as sharp as I
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want to. Yeah. Yeah, But if I just sprinkle it, also,
I could smoke more throughout the day. If I smoke
a big you know, I can't. I like smoking, I like,
you know, so if I just roll spliffs, I can
kind of keep it going and enjoy it. I like
that favorite way because the bottom line is I think
got that line all the time. Excuse me, while it's
just Bob Marty Classic the Street Lawyer, craziest place you
(47:08):
ever used cannabis are smoked. And you're a lawyer, so
you might have been in a house or two. Man,
that's a good question. I've smoked pretty much everywhere I've
ever been. So you know in court, in court, no,
I you know, I wouldn't quite smoke in court, man,
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in in a chamber, in any of that building when
you walk into that building. I wish I had a
good answer for this, you know, I said, I take
you know, planes, a plane. No, I don't want to
get kicked ten years ago. Did you smoke on a plane?
I spoke on the plane all the time. I literally
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I put a vape like a vape. I'll smoke. I
was on a plane vape. I blowed in my uh
inside of my blanket or whatever. I'm good. I do
it all the time. Yeah, pretty pretty recklessly actually yeah,
like seriously like so's so like like I know I'm
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pissing this mom off next to me with her kid,
but yeah, I'm doing that. Do you want to fun like?
I don't want to funk with no plane ship in
the middle of the air. You want, I mean a
good boy on the bottom. He said it right, He's
recklessly about it, and now only that that was the
plane guards that made him drop his juice on him
for open this thing up. And I guess it was avocado.
Oh that's so funny and awesome. It's that green sugar.
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You can't think of a crazy place, Lonnie. No, nothing
that's good. I know this is terrible, man. I don't
want to make us something good. I do know. I mean,
people have ever been in Miami on a roof crazy
could be like a cool crazy like I was on
this rooftop with five chicken. It was the most cla
crazy cool you know, crazy could be crazy? Yeahs not
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every rooftop I've ever been on. I'm just saying, you know,
magical moment. It could be a magical crazy moment. Thank
you daniel Son for bringing a napkin for blues. You
know what? Here, how about this, I'm going to create
one for you before our next session. And I'm going
to create one. Okay, I can't wait to hear it. Well,
then I'll move on to question number four, which is
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what is your go to munchies after you do get high?
Mr thin and fitting? Push up boy? Okay, if you
want a healthy munchiese right, I'm sure you do healthy
munchiese um. You know, peanuts or trail mix is kind
of rich. My granola up here, I just bring up granola.
You don't think that about rye oats? And why did
they sell that? Who buys the green oats? No, I
(49:36):
just got this new peanut butter granola, and I'll do
peanut butter and blueberries together. Oh yeah, peanut butter, granola
and blueberries mixed together. And then it's just water and
oh right, right right, and I'm getting that good food
fruit you can go fruits, um, you know, and then
just you know, just don't have to look. Here's the thing.
If you don't have chips and chocolate Oreos and all
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that ship in your house. You don't gotta worry about
eating that ship if you're worried about that, Because some
people come to me and they're like, I'm very worried
about that. I'm maintaining my weight, like the munchies is
a big deal. Have you always been fit like this? Yeah,
I've always worked out hard and just stay game ready,
like you're getting ready for the game next week, exactly, right,
like we're staying game ready. I just had a conversation
with Tito my mind, this guy earlier, right, Tato Tato
(50:20):
who works with Exhibit, and I go, I go trying
to get it back, and he's got the injury, right,
So I'm trying to go to the gym again. I'm
trying to get it back against injured or I was
laid up for four months, you know what I mean.
I couldn't so I lost. I lost weight, but I
lost on my muscle. So I'm just trying to get
it back. And you were able to stay thin throughout that, Yeah, exactly.
But my point is I see that, which is funny.
So it's hard to eat right when he's Here's what
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I do really if it's a night you know, when
I get the munchies of what I usually do. I'm
not a big drinker, but I'll pull myself a little
drink and you just sip on that. Now, if you're
like an alcoholic or whatever, and that I'll get you crazy.
That's my story. But yeah, it's over twenty three years ago.
A drink leads me to where Monnie, I'm in Miami.
Where are you at? I'll pick you up right away.
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Question every five with the high five with Lonnie the
street lawyer. Find him in the d V Find him
in Miami, find him in New York. Find him McKaley.
He's my brother from another mother. If you could smoke
cannabis with anyone, who would be Um? Well, when you
you know, you talked about our godfather. Excuse me. I
know you're thinking, and I was already talking about that.
(51:26):
But I think there's a deep shade. I think there's
a deep of cliche. Um. It is cliche, um, somebody
thinking about I was thinking about Albert Einstein. Okay, That's
what I'm saying, you know, But and why why why? Well,
his way of thinking would be so beyond exotic. I
mean he's talking about stuff physics, and you know that
I couldn't even imagine, and I know, just knowing what
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he's contributed intellectually the scientists, it would just be a
crazy gas experience spoke with him. Yeah, I agree. It's
one of those ones where I mean Albert Einstein for
God and it's fun. I don't know if you know this,
but Mark and Craig Wasser and their dad looks just
like him. He's done paid gigs where he does commercials
as in Einstein really cool on I am dB fucking
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acting credentials for that role ongoing, damn you and you
know the dad smokes of course, so you might be
able to get the next best thing. He's played Einstein
and like Nike commercials with Jordan's like that Spike Lee
and like back in the day, like he's been taking
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Remember that commercial that was his dad. So that was
his dad that played Einstein and the Jordans fucking and
I rememberercial because that was when we're you're younger and
when that Jordan's and your East Coast guy, so you
definitely remember exactly. So his dad was the Einstein in
that random Nike Spike Lee commercial which is just even
more funny that you say that, and you know Mark
and Craig so you can make this happen later. Actually,
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I was just talking to More and Craig to the day. Actually,
me and Mark come buying. Craig was like, how's your
ankle doing? Like, don't act like you care now it's
been four months as whole given him a hard time. No, no,
he came to my birthday party, my fiftieth birthday party
here where you were here and checking. I wish you
were in town. I should have invited joining it. I
feel I'm still feeling guilty that I didn't know. We
gotta make it that much exactly, And I'm looking at Pitt, going,
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it's pittsfall. I'm about to blame Pit for it. But Pitt,
why don't we think of it now? He would have been, Yeah,
we had such a good time though, but it looks
pretty pretty too big to blame. I like to blame
the guys who look skinny and weak. In my head,
I'm still bigger than Pit, you know, saying I'm still
bigger than Pits. So no matter how big Pitt is
Joe's head, I'm still like way bigger I'm like, I'll
barking him all day. Yeah. Man, so funny and that's
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so different. I mean you must have. It's lost hundred
pounds and it's been a while, lones Is there anything
else that you want to promote let anybody know before?
Like I said, it's indeed, d C Miami and of
course New York City. Um, everybody's welcome. You know, this
community is open to everybody. Don't want to thank any
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of the SLS fan from d C New York Miami
who come to us. Um, we're so grateful and we
we we accept it. We want you want your friends
as family, as community. So we got you and thank you.
Thank you very much. You guys, it's such a pleasure
to have you. And anytime you want to come here,
Lonnie and you come to California, you're here. We're gonna
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touch base with you on the East Coast. I know
that because I just feel like there's more things that
we need to be doing together. Yeah, I mean, like
out there anything else. Honestly, we had no um, we
had no guests right because we have this event coming up,
so we've been trying to stay away from having a
lot of guests and and then a lot of hits me.
I'm like, yeo, a lot of the town. We gotta
get him on the show. It's funny. And then he
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hits me, and then I'm already on it. And then
I'm like, we're not even hitting you. But I'm like, oh, yeah,
I told Lonnie going Doug, we'll get you in there
when I come to work. I'm in a book and
then you already talked. Oh. I'm like, we're already on
the same page. You can't go wrong, bro, haven't you.
He said a lot, He can't go wrong. Listen, thanks
for being so gracious to me as well and presenting
me the way you did. Appreciate you all. That's that's you.
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We didn't do it. That's you did that. Yeah, we
didn't thank you for the covenment, but we didn't do it.
We just put the words of all the stuff you've done, Blair.
We just respect you as the man and all the
hard work you've done, and we just want to let
the people know out there listening that this is the
g that we have on the show and we love you,
my man. Well, there it is, guys. It's Cannabis Talk
one oh one, and remember this. If no one else
loves you, we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis
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