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with us out there on the show today. Three smart guys,
blue smart guys when I smart guys or three not one,
not too but three very smart gentleman not tall Pertensky.

(01:10):
Did I get that right? Yeah? That's pretty good. Actually, wow, okay,
I feel impressed right now. By I'm impressed. How do
you say that? If it was your mother was yelling
at you, how do you get yells? My mom actually
just calls me. How does the name like this get
because me it was jose They didn't say your middle name, Joseph. Yeah,

(01:32):
you're right, Joseph Fray. Yeah, it was either Joseph Lope
or Joseph Fray exactly. So my point is, how does
it name like that get yelled at? And what culture
is it? Uh? The name is actually Mayan Mayan. Yeah,
my mom's a born in Mexico. Okay, so it's hardcore Mexican,
a little bit tack out on. She never says my

(01:53):
last Well. This guy, you guys, is the founder in
the CEO of Sordine Robotics, Inc. Next to him is Andrew.
Well is a nice normal name that nobody needs to
talk about, which is nice and cool. The chief of
staff of Sorting Robotics Inc. Sorry Andrew, your parents weren't
as cool as natal as you know what I mean,
they weren't in Mexico like that. And Ben are you guys?

(02:17):
I don't know if it's a joke on me or
what's gonna how do you say your last Reggy's another
mouthful of sales. That's a great one. Just to lead
into the conversation. Remember and this company Blue and everybody listening.
If you're heavery end of the cannabis production game or
even planning big things for your cannabis brands, you guys,

(02:38):
you're gonna want to sit down and listen to this
company because our next guest, these three gentlemen you just heard,
have something up there sleeve that I really am impressed
with and I want to know more about. Natal is
the founder and CEO Sorting Robotics, Inc. A premier tech
company building the future hardware and software for the cannabis
industry now. Sorting and Robotics specializes in the robotics computer vision,

(03:00):
an artificial intelligence that provides cannabis brands and processors valuable
solutions to their everyday problem. Whether you're a cannabis brand
or grower or co packer let sorting robotics and help
you increase your production efficiencies and reduced labor costs. And
we're gonna hear all about how you can do that.
Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm welcome to all

(03:22):
these gentlemen right here, Ben and you and at all
the guys this company you have. How do you convinced
nat all like I'm gonna get into this robotic game
in the cannabis game. Were you doing robotics and something else?
Like how do you specialize it for cannabis? Uh, let's

(03:42):
see what we were doing robotics in e commerce industry before.
Uh kind of targeting a very small market in uh
in like the trading card space. And then we wanted
to find a larger market after going through a something
called accelerator program called White Combinator, And in that program
we kind of we're looking for a bigger market to

(04:03):
tackle and we all smoked weed and we all like
we're in California and we're just like yeah. And then
we we knew some people that were in the cannabis space,
and um, when we were asking them along with a
bunch of other people, like what what should we build
and like, dude, you should just build anything. Everything is
done by hand, and everything's like coming out of the

(04:24):
like the legacy market, and people are just trying to
like pack joints by hand and do all these things hand,
just to just build anything. We're like, Okay, this seems
like a cool idea. And so it's kind of we
transition in a little like kind of the cliff notes
of what that was, Like, what was the Yeah, what's
the what's the first project that you ended up building?
The first thing we ended up building was. Before we

(04:46):
go into that, let's go into your history, my background.
What's your background? So my background, Um, I used to
work at NASA, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadino. Yeah,
so I worked there the TAN up there in the
mountains right exactly exactly where it's at. Yeah, spot, I've
been up there. It's fired. Did you go to the
open houses? Never? I just know where it's located, and
I was never fortunate enough to pass the gate. I've

(05:07):
only went to the gate. Then let you in. No,
Joe Grinded didn't get past a Lopez, Yeah exactly, really
a Lopez that he didn't pass surveillance. Uh. Yeah, so
I was there for almost four years working on a
device that's currently on the surface of Mars producing oxygen. Fantastic. Yeah,

(05:29):
so I was, what's your degrees from dog? What you're
backing like that? How do you work at NASA and
have something that's on Mars right now? Then thank you
for coming to the nava's talking to you right now.
Uh so, Yeah, I have a master's degree in aerospace
engineering and an undergrad and mechanical and aerospace engineering and somewhere.
Master's degree was Georgia Tech, and then undergrad was u C.
Davis in California. Nice. And then how do you get

(05:51):
a job at NASHA? Do you find that on indeed?
Like do you get recruited? Like who gets hired? And
how do you get hired at show up and fill
out an application? Joe? Is it that sample? I don't know. Well,
you want the good story, like the real story, So
I'll give you the good one first yea. So basically
I was so chill. They're like, yo, I need you,

(06:14):
and then they told my advisor, we need the best
person in your team and then they picked me. Yeah,
that was a good story. So the real story was like, yeah,
I just applied yeah. Yeah, like, uh yeah, Georgia Tech's
the funnel school for GPL, and so um, if you
go to JPL about and the mechanical engineering department, like
five percent of that engineering department is from Georgia Tech.

(06:36):
So it's like a grooming school. And UM I was
in uh like one of the fanciest um research labs.
It was like one of the largest labs in the
country for aerospace systems design and um they always go
there and they interview like the top candidates of the lab.
And at that point, I already started a company, like
a desktop three D printing company, so they kind of

(06:58):
like people that have a very i'd breath and not
very specific and UM yeah I just had shown that
Uh yeah I built you. Yeah, yeah, you can move
into the cannabis industry turned around makes something to create
oxygen on the moon. Yeah, I mean that's I think
that's what they had in mind. Yeah, it's fantastic and
it worked. No, it did work. Actually, they just released

(07:20):
a journal article UM JPL did last week about UM
the michig success for MAXI, which is the dump your name. No,
there's actually no engineers on that journal article. It's all
the scientists, But do they give it up to do
you guys all talk on like a group chat like
it's still going good or it's blown up. We got
an email chain, yeah yeah, yeah, Actually most of the
team doesn't even work at GPL anymore. They all worked

(07:42):
at like, like a few of them are at um
Planet Sciences and a few of them went to Blue Origin.
And yeah, usually people say at JPL, and it depends
if they like the culture or not. But um, yeah,
and then what the so so so you guys were
smoking some cannabis one day and said, damn, let's create something.
And what was it? Boom? So the first thing that

(08:03):
we did in the cannabis industry was a biomass sortation system. Sortation, okay, sortation.
So you guys ever see on Reddit that, um those
like tomato sorters where they're like falling off a conveyor
and in super high speed they're shooting out the bad
ones and keeping the good ones. So we did that
but for weed, so it keeps the nags shoots stams

(08:24):
does Yeah. Yeah, basically we'd get biomass and it would everybody. So, yeah,
what do you make that? Though obviously you made the
prototype first yea on paper, Uh not really. So it's
a pretty complicated computer vision algorithm. So what we did initially,
like the very first thing that we did is like
we didn't know really like anything about the production of

(08:47):
weed at that time. Like we were just like stoner
Ston We were like smoke weed and yeah, they're like, yeah,
we know what it's like. Um. So then we went
to a facility this is back in, went to facility,
took a bunch of pictures of weed and built on database,
and then trained a neural network on that weed to
recognize like what weed looks like compared to what a

(09:08):
stem looks like and compared what a flower looks like. Yeah,
that's from your guys' own weed. That's how you train
the computer to look. Initially, we trained it on like
a pound of weed, and then once we got like
a prototype working and we started running through more of it,
and then we're like, oh, we can get this hemp stuff.
And it's back in twenty nineteen. We're still learning, right
and um. And so then we started training it on
hemp and then we deployed it to a facility in Humble,

(09:31):
and we started going through like tens of pounds a day,
just like sorting through and training the network, and eventually
we got it so good we could tell the difference
between phenotypes, so like the difference between strains, Like it
would be like, oh, like this one's like tighten o G.
This one's like strawberry cup. So we could separate it

(09:51):
like from biomass. So it's like we were getting trim,
like hand trim or something like that. You want to
get all the smalls out of it. Instead of you know,
going by hand and kind of like shaking it out,
you put into the machine and it would just do
it automatically, and it was that saves a lot of time,
a ton of time. Yeah, I mean we're able to
have one person run through like a hundred pounds a day.
So these portable machines, like you pull up on it

(10:14):
now you're huge. It was about the size of this table.
And you guys built it. Yeah, we built it. We
built a couple actually, so so what did that cost
to build something like that? It was like a million bucks? Nice? Yeah,
so you guys, you guys pulled it around the funding. Yeah,
so at the end of twenty after we had this
thing working, we're like, yeah, you know, we know we're
doing this computer vision, this AI. We want to start

(10:35):
building more for canvas manufacturers. We raised a few million
dollars out of Demo Day, which was that startup Accelerator
program and UM and then we started focusing a lot
on specifically cannabis manufacturers in and is it? Is it
right now? Are you feeling? Is it? Are you guys
you have companies using your your pode types or is

(10:55):
it full production where we at? So for the hold on,
hold hold that thought. We come back. It's Cannabis Talk
one on one. Well, right back up to this bright Yes, sir,
We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.

(11:18):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. What time
is it? Dime times right? Think higher with diameon Industries.
Folks find him in California, Arizona and Oklahoma. Check out
the website diame Industries dot com and on Instagram Dime
dot industries and shout out to everybody over there at
Dime Man. We had a great burning trees festival. The
website Sorting Robotics dot com. That's all blue. Asked you

(11:41):
a question before we went to break. I couldn't wait
to hear your answer because I sit here and hear
everything that you say. And I know Blue and I
we geek out on people like you, like get into
cannabis space, Like I don't like geek, Like I look
at you like Snoop Dogg. You know what I'm saying,
Like to me, you're the level because you're the celebrity

(12:01):
in my book, like in my head dog. You just
said what you created is like celebrity status in my book.
Like what you said you created that's going to help
people like that, that's phenomenal. And A Blue asked you
a question before we went to bread. Blue said exactly, Blue,
go ahead read business said, like, you know, is it
in prototype still or is this is this actually you know,

(12:23):
um in full operation in different facilities. So the thing
that I mentioned the first one, that one we actually
just shelved because it was the first one that in
that project. We're like, okay, that's you know, it's an
interesting thing. It does, it does a lot of value, right,
But what we really want to focus on was cannabis
manufacturing because that's where it seems like there's not good

(12:44):
solutions and it's very complicated. Uh So what we started
focusing on after that was actually on the perial side
and specifically perial infusion. So now we have a robot
that actually injects pre rolls and then you can inject
in live rosin and make a column of ross. The
whole slides it up easier, Yeah, way easier. So, like

(13:06):
if you have settings all correct and you have some
good flour, then you can kind of like automate the
production of hashols. Fantastic. Yeah, that's a smart Have you
tried that with the burning though, like how well it burns,
because obviously you're you know, you're talking about how much
you put through the center first, you know, in order
to allow to have that certain you know, threshold of burn,
because if it burns, if it's too thick, it'll be

(13:28):
probably it'll burn, you know, not properly. If it's too thin,
it probably won't do anything, you know. So it actually
improves the way the joint burns. And that's because you
kind of change the thermodynamics of how exactly. So instead
of the joint normally burning from the outside in, where
it's like kind of burning the paper than the flower,
it's really burning from the inside out because now you
have this fuel rod from the center of candle. Yeah,

(13:53):
so it's a wick. Yeah, it's like a wick, right,
so it kind of reduces the chances of getting running
and stuff like that. I mean, obviously, if you pack
it like shit, it's it's gonna run, right dude. But
if you're putting good stuff, yeah, is this working? Yeah?
We have like we have almost thirty machines in the
United States and Canada. People oh yeah, people using okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(14:14):
that's swift. That's hot. I like that, And that's why
you have the whole team here, bands out there, the director,
I mean, come on that team now, well, you know,
and to hear what you got into Hero describes it.
That's is that the main machiner? Do you guys thinking, like,
what kind of commissions do I get that? I'm like
Martha Stewart though, whisper in there. I know everybody like

(14:36):
this stuff is hot. Hey, he's got a machine right there?
Is that the Is that the final thing you guys
have right now? You know? That was like the first
thing that we did. So we started that one last
year and then after we noticed, you know, we're pretty
good at this whole robot stuff, Let's make another one
and so we did a high throughput, high precision cartridge
filling machine. And so there's a bunch of a cartridge

(15:00):
only machines and they're kind of all over the place
and and so we're kind of we got approached by
a group that does big cartridges at scale and they're like, oh,
you need to make a better and like why, like
there's so many of these other ones. When you actually
look at those machines, they're just taken from the medical
device industry, like for tight trating chemicals, and they just
throw heat around it and they're like that will work
for show, but it doesn't. It doesn't work very well,

(15:22):
and um, you can't go very fast. They're not very precise.
And so then we built a machine that with one
person you can fill and cap thirty cartridges in a
single day, and you can do it with the zero
point two percent precision. So like so that brings your
cost down drastically, dramatically, And then if you're in a
state where distal it's ten tho dollars a leader, it's

(15:45):
a big difference. If you lose four percent, then if
you lose zero point two for sure, Yeah, and is
everybody using that already too, so this one yeah, so
this one's new. We launched at the beginning of this quarter.
We got a couple in Canada, a couple of California.
You guys here, how yeah, I love the people. Well,

(16:09):
he knows, he knows that he's doing this guy's you got?
So how much are these machines? What are they hip for? Like?
Who buys them? Mostly COO packers, packers and large brands.
I just want to tell everybody that's watching. I picked
this shirt on before Joe picked is on today. I'm
looking at it on screen, I'm like, dude, oh my god,
I realize Hold on a second. That's what's funnier. People

(16:31):
think we're brothers all the time too, or like you
guys related. Oh that's so cute, you guys. I really
like what you guys are doing. What is the market saying, like,
is it going to be something that you guys are
doing so quickly? Is it going to be adopted by governments?
I mean I feel like what you're saying, you're coming
from NASA, right, So you're coming from a standard. Well,

(16:54):
you're making products that are on the fucking moon. Literally,
sorry my bad. A little further exactly yours is on Mars,
and so therefore you have to think of ship that's
that far in advance. So I would imagine that your
machines are so far to par beyond whatever part is excited,
because let's face it, there's nothing that's regulated right now.

(17:16):
What you guys are doing, you guys maybe setting the
standard of what should be really out there and legally
exposed in the cannabis space, right, I mean, think about it,
because it's not regulated yet. It's not like you said,
the medical field. Medical fields regulated. Those machines are regulated.
You can't just fucking make a machine and think you're
gonna do a robotic surgery because you're mr. You know

(17:37):
what picked the machine, the Da Vinci machine whatever, you
know what I mean, you can't do that unless you're certified.
So you guys are gonna be able to set a
new standard. I think we're gonna see some big things
from this type of company. Well, uh, because I don't
know if you have a Yeah, that's what. And so
that being said, are you working with governments to try
to get well, that's why I was leading to because

(17:59):
I think you're setting standard. Are you setting a standard
to working with government to try to place that standard
in action. I mean, it's definitely on the plan. That's
something that we talked about all the time, especially on
the more medical device instead of government. You know, the
government has to go to medical device to concept. Okay,
got you, but you have to go through medical like trial, right,
because I think where you guys can actually go, you know,

(18:21):
really big is creating a standard that the federal you know, yes,
right because once you get that federal plaque, I mean,
you know of of production level and I don't know
if that you guys are going to go there or
just make your fortune in the smaller operators, right, because
there's a lot of and I say smaller because you know,

(18:42):
let's face it, even our big operators in the cannabis
industry or small operators like I know, I mean I
look at this and I'm like, yeah, you know, we're
we're a small fucking business. And even if they are
close to Coke Cola, they're not called cola, you know
what I mean, like like at their one facility maybe
you know when cold Cole is like yeah, we're you know,
we have those all over every country. Yeah, so um,

(19:03):
but but I think you know the point is the
new product line right now? So what are we calling
this monster? So the new product lines called the Omnifiller okay, yeah,
and then the infusion machine is called the Jico Infusion Robot,
and that the new one is the Omnifiller. Yeah, that's
the one that we just dropped this quarter. And you
guys have photos and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

(19:26):
if you love this is the second time you made
it past at me bro just a little bit. What's on?
And then this young man next to you, what is it? Andrew? Yes?
How you doing? So? What exactly are you doing over
there at the company? The chief of staff? Huh yeah,
So I work with the Tall. We actually share an office.
Um so I handle basically business operations, so everything that

(19:53):
the Tall doesn't do, I basically do. Nice. Yeah, so
I'm involved in marketing operations, just the degree ales. Yeah yeah.
And how long you've been with them? Uh? Eighteen months? Nice?
You enjoyed it? Yeah? Yeah. Do you see the big
picture of the big vision? Yeah? Yeah, going into it,
I mean that's that's what really attracted me. And when
I started talking to the guys and uh really seeing

(20:15):
the team and how they you know, kind of work together.
I was like, oh, yeah, this is this is cool
and it's in wheat and my background I say, cannabis
around here, yeah Canada, but marijuana. Yeah, And so like
I was, I was my backgrounds in the wine industry,
so I saw a lot of parallels between the two industries.

(20:36):
And so I was like, oh, this is this is cool.
And my undergrad degrees in biology, so I kind of
get some of the you know, high falutant aerospace concepts
that go around the the office. But yeah, it's a
big words are just flying around, like what the fund did?
He just say? Yeah, I just I just not, yeah,

(20:57):
totally get that. Yeah, well what do you call it?
Frank uhcticals? Fractals? I was like, I've heard of fractals,
but what is a fractal? What anybody here know what
a fractal? List other than the guy that just educated
me today is a fractal? Yeah, it's all telling what
a fractless. It's good for America. It's a continuously repeating

(21:20):
mathematical pattern that most of nature um exhibits in behavior
like tree leaves and the way trees grow and the
way seashells grow, like your our neighbor, right, you know,
of course everything is in that any OUTI thing. We
were talking to him about that, and then I was
just winding fractals. Sounds like practical. The smartest ones know

(21:42):
it's crazy. It is really crazy. And then Ben, how
did you come around? What are you doing there? So
titles director of sales, but I've kind of taken over.
So up until this point, before I came on, was
the one doing sales, biz dev channel partnerships or chief partnerships.
When you're the CEO and you're know a little further
than a start up stage, you do all the sorts
of things. Uh, to the point now where he needed

(22:04):
somebody to come over and take over that so you
can focus on the things that needed to be focusing on.
So I have been on board. This is actually my
official tent day on the job. And they put you
on the show, and they put me on the show.
I've been Uh, I've been in the industry since two
thousand and sixteen. I actually you mentioned clinical trials. I

(22:25):
got started working with companies that we're looking to take
medical devices or medicines to the market in a different industry.
But then they all were migrating into CBD and then
into cannabis. So that's how I got introduced. I mean,
I grew up in northern California. I went to school
at Berkeley. I've been around it my entire life as
far as a profession. That's how I got introduced at
Berkeley once and once in a while, maybe I could

(22:48):
maybe telegraph telegraph. That's not a good weed though some
people would think that was the best weed nowadays because
that new stuff is just blown. Like that's having that
good little weird that just got you a little high
now and shaking in a corner like what is that?
What is that? That's funny? So I grew up in

(23:08):
the Bay Area. You see a lot. I grew up
and I grew up outside of sacrament Open the polls,
and then went to school in the Bay Area. Yeah,
I've been around the industry quite a long time to
date myself. I was actually going to school there in
nine when prop to task and you know, big injection
of information and culture and all that. During that time,

(23:29):
I didn't I was gonna be a profession for myself.
But um, once I got into it, I was never
looking back. Yeah, Berkeley is one of those schools where
you could think cannabis was a profession there you know
what I mean? Are like started because a lot of people,
just some of my roommates, it was a profession back
then for all of us. It was at some point
like if you're you know, if you smoked it, it
became a profession. Was like what you want to buy
some Yeah, it's definitely. We're gonna find out where this

(23:50):
company is going. You guys. You want to see him
online Swordium Robotics dot com. We come back. We got
the high five and see what direction and what's next.
I mean, we're gonna do cannabis on the moon. Are
on Mars Mars right find out it's Cannabis Talk one
oh one. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one
oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one.

(24:22):
Advanced New Treats, you guys, they have a complete growing
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to Big Mike Man. I just talked to her the day.
He's like, Joe, how's your ankle? Just a real concerned
gentleman who who cares about me as a real person
like our friends we've known him for. I mean, you know,

(24:42):
I just love the man for asking me that the
first thing out of his mouth, like I don't really
appreciate exactly That's what I like, because the first thing
out of his mouth is how's your ankle? And to
think about that, I really want to thank Jan Erica,
Daniel cal Christian A Christian s Danny p Funk, Connor,
Gabriel Sagar, Jessica Cash, Kim Kimberly, Isaiah Salar, Nadia, Ali Pitt,

(25:03):
Devin Chris, Frank Kino. Of course our guy, Mr Mark Karnes,
Jennifer and Elvis for everything that you guys do around here,
Thank you so much. And sorting robotics dot com and
it's all Andrew and Bend. You guys are working your
ass off over there with these amazing products that are huge,
industrial sized things. At one point when I was looking
at the company, I was thinking you guys were like

(25:24):
sorting out products in the back for like making robotics
to like keep things in order or something like that.
You guys don't do anything like that, are you guys
getting into cutting the butt off plants as they're gonna
be robotics for that. Where are we seeing this company go?
They just made the new product line. I mean, I
know they're going. They're already moving somewhere else though. Welcome

(25:44):
back to the show, Joe. So so the new product
line that we're talking about, like, right, that that's gonna launch. Okay,
let's let's re launch launch lunch. It's alright, yeah, it's
it's launched. It's already launched. It just okay, they just
launched it. That's the big one. Then the infused one
and the other because exactly I got a few products

(26:06):
from you guys, the infuse joint one, right, and then
the shorter one that's okay, the sorting one that sorts
out all the cannabis, right, no, no, the sorts south
of cannabis was the first one, right, they discontinued it.
It's gone, right, that was their demo. Then they came
out with one that infused it down the middle, and
that one still good. That one's that in thirty stores,
thirty stores, right, thirty manufacturing companies many, I'm sorry, manufacturing companies. Yeah, uh,

(26:31):
And that's the one that infuses it right, which sounds amazing.
And then now there's a new device that does the
oils oils the oils one third right now and saves
three more. But it's you know, so amazing. It's like
ten times more precise. Usually vape cart fillers like to
quote like plus or minus five percent. We'll say plus

(26:52):
or minus is zero point five percent. Wo better, a
lot better, cleaner, super cleaner, way more like that. One's
called the Philly And because like when you started the show,
you said, well I remember that. But as you started
the show, when you talked to a friend of yours,
you said, get into anything. Your minds can go anywhere

(27:16):
in this game. Like that's what I'm saying, because you
can make up ship that that can make up something
that you don't even know could help this industry. Yeah,
we build stuff that doesn't exist. That's what I mean.
So what is that? Like, what's the next thing that
your mind's going, Well, we're kind of working on I
want to leak. I mean the big thing is concentrate production. Right.
Concentrate production is like still done by hand, and the

(27:38):
major concentrate like what you're talking about when you get dabs,
how do you think doesn't. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah,
I know how, I know how it's made. I just
one at a time and they're just meanful. Yeah, so
what are you gonna do? What's your plan? Build a
dope pass or about that? Does it? Yeah? Yeah, that's it,
that's it. Yeah. Well they're already a dope ass robot

(27:59):
in in like you know, a different you know, extraction
world that you could just kind of piggyback off of.
I mean we've really done it. No, like just no
one's it's it's extremely difficult. We actually tried to do
it back in and then when we were going down
that path for a few months, we're just like, oh yeah,
this is fucking hard and so and and that was

(28:19):
the time when we had just raised money, so we
have to be very cognizant about like runaway and stuff
like that, and like how much this project was actually
gonna cost to do, and so they don't want to
just dump it. Then you're in a bad place. Yeah,
So we kind of started and did like an initial
discovery and we were kind of doing the Jico robot
at the same time, and so we're like, okay, like,
which one of these is more feasible for us to
develop and like, what do we have more access to?

(28:41):
Do we have more access to concentrate? Do we have
more access to pre roles? Like a lot of like
you know programmatic stuff, right, yeah, And so it's going
to hit exactly. And so then now we're coming back
to like concentrates and I think that's gonna be a
big thing. And uh we already have like a few,
uh some of our current customers that are like, yo,
I will pay you to do today We're like, all right, well,

(29:01):
like we gotta just do it ta get it down.
So so that the new one, the fillers, I do
want to see him. I wish I would have seen
them more BREA because it would give me a bigger
like just understanding of how many producers at a time.
It's a hundred that's a small amount. Actually it's a
hundred in a minute, a hundred minute. It feels a
hundred every while, So they'll put that perspective. It takes

(29:24):
uh one person an hour to do a hundred by hand.
You're crushing it. Yeah, yeah. And then does it box
them too? It doesn't box them. That's another thing. So
like when that's the next stage. Yeah, it's another like
there's that would be the ultimate like ko right, yeah,
because then you own it the whole way through. Right,
You're like, okay, well, I can give you the cards,
I give you the oil, I can fill it, I

(29:44):
can cap them, I can put into boxes. Now we
open up up a back section here to start producing it,
and then throw a couple of robots. Yeah yeah, the
robots stop, and then and then we quickly the scale
into a massive facility. Yeah yeah, I like that. You
don't need as many people need like five, right, and

(30:08):
and some warehouse space because you're gonna have a lot
of production and probably saving costs. But is that going
to be cheaper than you know? Uh well, I guess
then where do you get the material? So where would
you buy the material for that, the material to build
to fill the box the box, like the actual box,

(30:28):
the actual boxes themselves. I don't know, Andrew, this is
your thing. Where do we buy the packaging? There's the
packaging is probably the easiest part of you buy in China,
then you have it here in the robot folds it
together and China. No, I mean we can buy it
source it here in Orange County actually, there's a company
um that does packaging. They have a facility that they
make folded cartons here. Yeah. No, but I'm saying we

(30:50):
want to be able to package it, right that the
you know, from from start to finish with your machinery.
Yeah right, that makes you unique. Right now, all of
a sudden, you're just saying, here it is, and you're
packaging for everybody, and you've gotta you know, you know
income you know, revenue machine. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean
that's what you know. Natal's uh, you know, ideated through

(31:11):
is building out every piece of that step in a
production process. Is that the goal you plan on doing
something like that? Or yeah? I mean the goal is
to do that both in like the vape card, the
pre roles, the concentrates, and then continue on. I mean
even like there's possibility is to do like automation robotics
in delivery as well. Right right now, what do they
do in delivery? This pick and pack? But Amazon doesn't

(31:32):
do that, right, Amazon's got robots doing everything. You know,
maybe Ease is big enough to do it. Probably not,
but in a few years they will be. Eventually, the
industry is going to be mature enough that it can
adopt these like kind of classical methodologies of doing business,
and it's so highly regulated that a lot of these
kind of traditional robotics companies don't even want to mess

(31:55):
with it. And so that's where we're comming. You're go
into m J biscon, I'm MJ, I'm packed. Do you
want any of these? Both both of them yet pitching
a m oh good for you, dude, nice dude, nice,
of course. I think we have one of the biggest
boo booths there. Yeah. Cool, Yeah, we actually have a huge,
massive footprint with advanced nutrients. I believe it's gonna be

(32:18):
rocket seeds, uh, Kelly effects or uh was it a
spirit right now, Larry Flint, they're not they're not confirmed yet,
but these are on my list. Yeah, we're actually gonna
have a big dinner out there with a lot of
the companies stuff. We were really well, we can discuss that,
you know, so I think you might make a little

(32:40):
We can certainly discussed that. But you know, yeah, listen, guys,
what is it that that you know? You know, ultimately
you're very intelligent, man um. I actually really look at
your guys team right now, and I see it. I
see the you're probably your method of madness of how

(33:03):
it goes and how these guys are working with you. Um,
and then you know, where are you guys going in
and is there's something that we can do to help you?
What do you guys think about that? So the ethos
of sorting robotics is specifically to sophisticate the cannabis industry. Right,
we're moving from cottage to commercial, we're moving to the mainstream.
Eventually they'll be federal form. But there needs to be

(33:25):
this like driving force that improves the whole industry. And
I think technology is a very good way to do that.
And given that we also have experience in like actually
running cannabis companies. So I started a copacking company back
in Oakland, UM with a few like industry operators, and
like I ran that for years UM and we even

(33:48):
like started like an in house brand and stuff. So
there's not many people that really understand what it's like
to run a cannabis company and then service a cannabis
company on the tech side. And so with that lens,
sophisticating the industry is our goal. So when you think about, like, oh,
what is our goal, it's to do that. How can
you help us give us people that we can help

(34:09):
sophisticate because a lot of people in this industry are
like struggling in different states, some states not um and
if they just have a little bit of a shift
in their perspective, they can go from struggling to extremely profitable. Yeah.
And and it's funny how you say that it's just
a little shift in your perspective, because it really is
like a lot of people have a hard time being unrealistic,

(34:33):
you know. And I explained that to people, and I
try and tell them all the time, do you have
to be unrealistic? Because wealthy people are very unrealistic people,
and very intelligent people are very unrealistic people because they
did things that people didn't believe they can do, like
go to college right years, like you you know what
I mean, Like like no, no, I want to college
rate extra years? Why because I felt like it, you know.
And it's like but everybody else that was crazy, that's unrealistic.

(34:55):
It's not it's not gonna help me, it's not gonna
but it's like, no, but that person did this person
went and you know went and you know, thought of
making a fucking machine that that you know that no
one that no one had out there that put a
you know, a strip of wax down the middle of
your joint. It sounds amazing, like like who knew? That
is fantastic? You know, it really is. IM That's why

(35:18):
I want to see. I wanted to see the the filler.
I've seen a bunch of the pod fillers, you know
what I mean, and whatever, um you know, and and
stuff like that, and those I've seen since the industry
before quite frankly, the you know vape industry. You know, um,
but you know that that little beach that was cool.
You know I've already got four of the machines for

(35:38):
you guys like you, like I can already. He said
the wrong thing, he said, We'll take your idea, not mine,
but I'm not gonna take mine. Right, we'd like to
do the high five with all the guests that we
come on to show you guys and where your company
is going and what you're doing is phenomenal. I really
love how you're bringing the industry to the next level.

(36:00):
Two Because like I said to me, I wasn't bullshit.
I know how we look at you. Congratulations. You guys
are rock stars just because you're setting a level higher.
Is the company profitable right now? Yeah? Actually those quarter congratulations?
That's what I like that. That's that I didn't want
to ask it on air, but yeah, I didn't want
to ask it. But it's important to know it's not
especially because they've already dumped one, you know, so that

(36:22):
wasn't profitable. Right, you built it, and this is gonna work.
Let's start over money. Um, And that's that's in perspective, right,
because what's a lot of money to you is not
a lot of money to somebody else, you know? And
and or is it what it takes the scale? Right?
Because when people don't get it again, like I said,
I can sit here and um, have a conversation with

(36:43):
you know, the ten people that hurt it, and then
you know, not one of them said think congratulations. But
when you mess up, right, Yeah, so you get the
answer nine times correct and on that tenth one you
mess it up and everybody starts laughing at you when
you mess sit up. But they didn't see the nine
that you did, right, They didn't say congratulations are the

(37:04):
ones afterwards either? It's just a you motherfucker, So we congratulate.
Congratulations exactly. This is hot and it's very hot, and
it's all we're gonna go in this order. You'll answer
it first, then we'll go with you Andrew, and then
you've been you'll be the same question in that order.
It's the high five with these gentlemen. Of course, check
out the website story and robotics dot com. Question number one,

(37:24):
how are you guys the first time you spoked cannabis?
And where'd you get it from? I was seventeen and
I got it from my friend Glenn. What area where'd
you grow? Pasadenia? That's okay? Oh, she grew up in
Pastina as well. Yeah, wuck. NASA, right, Yeah, that's kind
of cool. Yeah, it was either NASA or SpaceX. Chose NASA.

(37:46):
SpaceX would have been cool too. Yeah, you gotta work
real hard there. Yeah yeah, I said, they just hire
all anyone out of all the all the sporty degenerates.
What about you? Uh again, I mean I was I
think twenty and uh yeah it was. I was in Europe,
you know, for a summer for study abroad. And uh,

(38:07):
he's like you something new, but don't gay. I was
like a hardcore runner in high school, Like I was
the captain of the track and cross country team. I
was like on it, you know, So I wasn't I
wasn't like smoking that stuff. I wasn't. No, I was
so focused, you know. And then I went to and
then I went to Pepperdine and I went to college
and uh, you know, I was over in Amsterdam and uh,

(38:30):
you know, let me hit that. I mean went in Amsterdam.
What about you, Ben, it's like one six or twelve
twelve six six? No, actually not. It was later. It
was eighteen in the Oakland Colosseum Division Bell concert Pink Floyd. Uh,
some gals sitting next to me in the seats, sit

(38:52):
here anything something like that. You got the best story, Ben,
I'm gonna I'm gonna use your story now. Feel for
that story was really cool because I can imagine it.
Did you take Did you drive? Uh? I don't know.
It's fun so I think somebody else drove. Yeah, yeah. Responsible.
Question number two of the high five, what is your

(39:13):
favorite way to use or smoke cannabis with my puff? Really?
The puff? Yeah? Good device? Yeah? Why not have why
not a puff coo or something like that, a device
like that because they already have a puff co we
do stuff that doesn't exist. No, but I'm staying anyone
that doesn't exist, like a smoking device, would you do that?
It's like a different way to smoke something. I mean,

(39:34):
I don't know. I really think puffica is kind of
the best way to smoke right now. Yeah, at least
right now. Yeah, there's just coming from a Nasha engineer.
I mean, hey, they probably did. What about you, Andrew? Um,
I actually like making little cannabis cocktails at home, so
instead of you know, I'm a wine guy, but really

(39:55):
I love my cannabis cocktails. Now you are you microdosing
that or do you are? Do you just hit him
home micro doocing? Yeah? I don't microdesca no, um, but no,
like at night, I'll just have like you know, maybe
like in it that's microcing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
it's good. I didn't say how many I have. Hey,

(40:16):
that's a good one, Andrew, what about you? Ben just
kidding out there if you're listening, just good old fashion, joint,
old school. Just just give me a nice one. She
doesn't need to be doesn't need to put me on
the moon or marsh some just put me in the
good mood. But had good old fashion joint. That's nice.
What about the craziest place question number three of the
high five that you ever used or smoked cannabis? Craziest place? Damn.

(40:41):
I usually make sure i'm in like a safe space
because I'm not a good high person. I'm like pretty useless. Mike,
you gets cut in. Have you ever smoke at NASA?
I did not smoke at NASA? Um ever, I was
sober Stone Colts sober, he said. I repeat, I didn't
even smoke. Then I didn't even. Yeah, I didn't. I
didn't smoke. I know anyone that smoked either. Um so,

(41:04):
but let's see, where is the craziest place I smoked
at that? Smoking at NASA would be pretty cool. I'm
just saying if somebody was just say, oh, yeah, I
smoke once you cross that gate, because you can't cross
that gate once you cross that gate, and you smoke
at NASA, that'd be pretty crazy spot. I'm just saying,
smoking like the high bay where they have the filters
and everything. You know, if that'd be kind of cool
if you're smoking NASA, like because I tried to walk

(41:24):
the smoking NASA buddy, I don't know. I'm just saying
if they did. If I walked through the NASA campus
and I smelled weed, I would be like, oh shit,
it's about to get real. They don't do it, Yeah,
that'll be messed up. I mean, I don't know. I
think the craziest place I ever smoked. I mean, like
E d C. That's good. Yeah, I mean I got

(41:45):
a good time. Yeah, exactly what about you? Andrew? No,
I'm like Natal, I like my safe spaces. But yeah,
I mean I I just I took too many edibles
when I was in Vegas with my brother in law,
and uh, let me just say, Casino floor is a
trippy spot to not even be aware of anything. It

(42:09):
was those stores can go crazy. That's a crazy places
on the slot for an hour and I was only
there for like three minutes. It was bing, bing bing bing.
What about you? Ben? Crazy? Not as in crazy, good time, crazy, cool,
craziest as in I thought I was gonna die. Uh.
One of my first business trips up to humblet and uh,

(42:30):
I was the new guy that nobody knew besides a
referraling from a friend. So after get into a location,
after having a bag on my head, I sort of
had to prove myself. It wasn't fun. It was crazy though,
how crazy again? How hard you have yourself? He's the
only one that read it, he guys, ever seen deliverance? No,

(42:52):
I'm just kidding. A couple couple of puffs, that was it.
That's always good of course, number four of the High
five Swording Robotics Inc. Nice to have you, guys. So
what is your go to munchy after you get high? Orios? Easy?
White black? I like to Oh yeah, yeah, we got

(43:25):
the sin ones at the office. Keep those stopped, keep
those stock. What about you? M m uh? I think
like um gummies, like gummy bears, like anything anything horror
anything anything, every variation, every storage or whatever. I grabbing

(43:46):
that all right? What about you ben so college? It
used to be the microwave to case adia, quick and easy,
but a shitty form of a case adia. So now
I actually will do it on a griddle or make
them make a proper case idea. Yeah, that's so funny
that the old school cheap microwave nacho cheese on the outside.

(44:06):
Now I put it parmesan on the outside. Now your
fancy do you do? You bake it on there? The barbrasan.
So you flip it over, you know, the oil little butter,
flip it over. Why it's still anytime you fry something right,
you need a season it right then. So that's when
you put the parmesan on right, when you flip over
the first side while it's still cooking. Proap. Oh nice.

(44:30):
Before we get the question number five, we gotta give
a big shout out to robo cush Kings of Los
Angeles in the building. I see them over there, robo
cush in the building. Okay, you guys, cannabis talk one
oh one, question number five with the high five natol.
If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or live,
who would it be and why? Uh? Honestly, I think

(44:54):
Elon Musk could be kind of interesting because I kind
of saw him Rogan. I feel like if he wasn't,
you know, sense third, he'd be funny as fu. Yeah yeah, yeah.
I like that guy a lot. There's a lot of
things he does. I think he's pretty uncensored. I mean,
I think he just he wanted to test the market
and see how hard is it's stock. He probably made
a ton of money when that happened. I mean, he

(45:15):
bought puts. He bought puts. Yeah, sure, right, great, Why
wouldn't you want to smoke with the guy? Seems cool
as funk? What about you, Andrew? Mm hmm. Well she's
still alive, I would say Queen Elizabeth, because if there's
one person that knows where all the bodies are buried, yea,
and not only that, she'll know the whole stories of

(45:37):
what really happened. Why why did your grand Yeah exactly,
I mean, how many grandkids that are treated like royalty? Say,
I'm out. I've actually served him wine? No way, no way.
He's a super cool guy. I bet I love my
old my old vineyard. He came up for a private
trip and uh, he came up about five people on
a on a secret trip and he seems like is

(46:00):
he would be the realist of actually bust his own
dishes at the end of it, and he shook my
hand and said thank you so much for everything. Yeah,
he was the nicest guy. That's the young prince right there, literally,
which I like that. I I I'm infatuated with that
whole culture in history, you know, I mean like queen family.
Bro he left the family dug So why why wouldn't
you want to talk to the queen. That's my point.

(46:21):
You talk to the head of the family. She's the mob.
She's the head of the mob. Yeah, he's the largest landholder.
She's the head of the mob. Don't get it twisted.
She's running. Everybody know, she's the head. Yeah, that's why.
That's a good one. And the son, I mean, that's
what I'm saying, like, you know, that's over some minority
stuff like Okay, my wife's black. I'm but you guys

(46:43):
miss treating her. I'm not gonna funk with y'all. Is
that the confirmation or just oh no, that's what I
know it was. I'm not no, I know there was
a lot to do with it, But I mean, is
that is that? Was that? What am I The trip
that he came was actually secret. So yeah, he's an
over interview. He just with Megan's Yeah, he went with

(47:11):
and then not only that, he married Megan and then
I know they got and it was on Oprah about
and that's why. Okay, Yeah, so all that I know
he left the family, I didn't know that was just
because of Megan. Yeah, yeah, because because his brother, our
father or of one of them said something racist about her,
so one of them, and we still don't know who
it's been under that. Nobody knows still, but that was it.

(47:32):
It was done, good for it was done. And he left.
He said, okay, well you can't make that. I like
that you say that, And she sparked up a whole
ship in me. That makes you want to know the answer.
So did you smoke with her? Let me know? She yeah, yeah,
I'm so curious to you. What about Henna smoke? Yeah,
that goes ward. I'm gonna join you all right. Oh man, um,
he's probably a cliche one, but I probably want to
smoke a joint with Anthony Burden. Ooh, he's traveled a lot.

(47:55):
He's traveled a lot. You've seen a lot of cultures
in a lot of places, and it's seen The specials
are still I watched till this day when I see
him on. Absolutely, he's a unique man that has done
some fabulous things, and I think he touches all cultures
and people and makes you realize that food brings us
all together, brings us all together. A unique cool dude. Absolutely,

(48:16):
How many guys in the audience know who that is?
Just checking as fant to see. Is that only because
they we've heard it four or five times on the show. Yeah,
he's a little bit older. Some of the people don't
know you know what I mean, it's it's it's there's
the when he died. I think it was such a
big deal. And he died within the past two years.
If I'm not going I think, you know, yeah, I

(48:37):
made it such a big deal, you know, him being
this iconic guy who has so much history archived with
all the interviews he's done, so now it becomes iconic.
So guys, let us know. Is there anything that we
forgot that you guys wanna, you know, tell the audience
or just let us all know about you guys before
we let you guys get on out of here. M hmm.
I mean I think we're here to help. Yeah. I

(48:59):
like that We're here to help and we're doing it
the right way, which, um, I think this industry is
kind of touching goes sometimes. Um. But yeah, I think
we're trying to approach you that sophisticated and as balanced
as possible. I think you guys are doing that. Man,
keep up work. I like it, dude, I you know,
I I really I feel that you guys are on

(49:22):
something one. I like, I love the dynamic that I
look and when I look at you guys, I'm like, okay,
Like it literally makes sense to me, Like I could see, like,
you know, if if you guys are um, what's a
great way to say, If you guys are very uh
committed and you believe in everything you're really doing, and
you guys can withhold everybody's bullshit because all of us

(49:44):
have bullshit, you know what I mean, Like this guy's
math doesn't equal to that and this and this everything
else whatever it is. If you guys can hang onto that,
this is gonna be a very special company. Plans to
go public when it's legal. Yeah, yeah, we'll go pub
We'll get about by seamans one or the other, you know. Yeah,
well saying there's next it right, Yeah, yeah, that's the point. Yeah,

(50:07):
that's goods like that Seamans are da Vinci's right, something
like that. Crazy, That's what I'm saying, Like I see it,
like I could watch it route I see what you're
gonna do. It's dope. Anything else boys. Before we let
you guys get out here, was say, can I get
some stock in the company? Can Blue and I get
a little stock in the company we might about to do.

(50:29):
So I was gonna say one thing. A lot of
times certain operators get scared of the idea of automation
because for them, they're employing their friends, are employing family,
and they're thinking, Okay, I'm just getting rid of my labor.
That's not what we're looking to do, and that's not
the spirit behind the company or automation. What we're trying
to do is basically take over some of these mundane
tasks like sitting there and clipping or sorting, which nobody

(50:49):
wants to do. I don't care how high you are,
how much you get paid, weed, you don't enjoy doing that.
But allow that person to go to do something that's
going to allow them to expand their mind, be more creative,
Go do something that's gonna bring a bigger r y
to your company. So just when I had that about
automation again, sometimes it's the evil word out there, but
when used appropriately, it can really scale up your operation
and enhance the people are already working with you. Allow

(51:10):
them do something a little more meaningful, you know, and
and honestly, you know, if if you value your core people,
you would teach them how to use that machine and
love that they were doing that. I mean, that's just
it's and they find a different job because it's just
part of the game. I mean, what you guys are
doing is just part of the game. It doesn't matter.
It helps the business, it helps the culture, it helps everything. Yeah,
we've seen so many people that we've installed machines into

(51:31):
and they're like, oh, dude, I'm still happy your machines here.
We'll come back like a few months later and like, yeah, man,
before we were just like doing this by hand, or
before we were doing just a different Dude, now I'm
using this machine. Is so sick. I tell my friends,
like they'll tell they'll tell us when we're like fixing
the machine or something like, oh yeah, I told my
friend that, like I'm using this machine that like sucking
injects joints. He's like, whoa ue, that's leg and uh.

(51:52):
And you know, like now these people are becoming like
more technical, got videos that show it all. Oh yeah, sure, yeah,
I gotta see all that. You know, my fault for
not let's come up to our facility and visit it sometimes. Yeah, definitely,
I'll be there for sure. Yeah, like I have all
kinds of ideas. I mean, honestly, you know, when I
and I was trying to get you guys off the show,
but we're gonna start stay and talk no. Yeah, So

(52:13):
so you know I could like, well, I see it
from a different angle, right, So I know all of
your target audience, all of them, like not all them,
but fucking all of them, you know, and like or
a lot a lot of them, you know, so where
it's like they're there there, and and I've been working
with them for you know, uh, twenty five years and
some of them ten and and and and some of

(52:34):
them within the last year. But but you know, I
understand it, and I've been in all facets of of
of that. You know, I've worked that plant from from
from the ground up to you know, and I've had
to do all kinds of different things, whether it be
you know, uh trimming or growing or uh you know,
so I could I could see that and having people
that that are intelligent to to build a you know,

(52:56):
a project like this, a robotic that can actually uh
sustain in the market and come into the market and
actually help people grow and and save money and and
you know, scale that that's huge that you guys, that's
that's something that our industry, uh, you know, really really needs.
And I appreciate you guys for it, and you know,
I really really appreciate it. Like I'm excited to see

(53:19):
you know, and I have some ideas right now for
you guys. I just gotta hold my tongue because he said,
you know, we'll take your ideas. Okay, now we're talking now,
and he tells he's a very smart man. He uses words. Well,
he's like, we'll take that idea out of Like now
you have this guy. He always went to the high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

(53:42):
these are the guys. Yeah, they're very intelligent group of group,
a team and they fit all they check all the marks.
So anyways, guys, there anything else, man, I'm cut it
out of here. He has done. I think we're good.
Where's your website? Man, tell him they can meet you
Sorting Robotics dot com. Yep, that's it. Give me a phone,
yeah six, Yeah, Well there it is. Guys. It's Cannabis

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