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Just like that, we back on the air.
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Welcome back to get another carefully reckless episode which your
girl Jess hilarious. We got Taylor in the building and
say hi, Taylor. Hi, y'all say hi to Taylor. Okay,
that's my baby Mama. She and here and she's gonna
be helping me fix the mess. We're gonna jump straight
into it again. We have no voice notes and I
get why, but I already see this person can't spell,
so bear with me, all right, All right, hey Girley,
(01:24):
So I'm conflicted. I've been cool with these two guys
since we were in diapers, damn near. But as we
grew older, I started to realize one of them developed
feelings for me.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh my god. I was stuck in some shit like
that before. Let's say his name is Jake.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I wasn't gonna turn him down nor agree because we're friends.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
First.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I didn't want to mess up the friendship. So once
the other boy found out, I'm gonna say his name
is Aj. So once AJ found out his man's liked me,
all hell broke loose. The friendship dynamic was no more.
Now they both just try to prove who's better for me.
But it's quite annoying because I don't want either one
of them. What so the other one I know, I'm
(02:04):
almost I'm almost to the point of confusion as well.
So there she has two friends she grew up with, yes,
basically since in diapers, like they've been cool as fuck,
but she said one of them started developing feelings for her,
and one of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Them she didn't want.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I know, but now she's talking about the second one
development feelings as well, because both of them now were
trying to see who can win her over, like they're
in competition to get her. But she did say that
Shane want to mess up the friendship with Jake, so
Shane want to turn him down or agree to start
dealing with him. So she just like kind of didn't
do anything yet. I know, we got to finish, but
I mean it's kind of a little weird. Yeah, like
(02:43):
she said, I'm gonna take it from a few lines up,
she said, now they both try to prove who's better
for me. Yeah, so both of them like yours, dummy,
and it's quite annoying because I don't want neither one
of them. Okay, Okay, I valued our friendship way more
than anything. Now, don't get me wrong. I did like
aj when we were younger, but it's like he's like
a brother now, and how would I even be able
(03:03):
to do that?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Then Jake just fell back once he realized I wasn't budging.
Then he randomly texts me for a date. I'm not
gonna lie. I actually replied and accepted the fuck you
just said, girl. Then he flaked girls, so that confused me.
They just playing games? Oh my gosh, I don't know.
(03:26):
I'm just here to ask should I choose one or
just try to keep them both in a friend zone
or just cut both of them off. It's hard to
tell when your friends start to like you, and I
just don't know what to do, and I don't want
to lose them. Okay, so you don't want to lose them,
but it's annoying that they like you. You don't like
(03:47):
neither one of them, but you did like one when
you were younger, but you didn't want to fuck up
the friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And that was when you were younger.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So now you get fast forward, you get older. You
don't like me the one of them, but you accepted
a fucking date right that one of them asked you
out on.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think weird?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
What were they just trying to see? I don't know.
I think with guys from in a sense what I've learned.
I think they.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Try to see if they can mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
How long they were friends for.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
She says, since they've been in diapers damn near, both
of them. She's been friends with both of them, Like
all three of them are friends, and she's been well,
you know what. She actually didn't say whether AJ and
Jake were close. She's just been both of their friends.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Hey, girl, I'm so complext that I've been cool with
these two guys since we were in diapers damn near.
But as we grew older, I started to realize one
of them developed feelings for me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's say his name is Jake. I wasn't going to
turn him down nor gread.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah. She didn't say whether Jake and AJ were friends,
like all three of them were like collectively friends together
as a group.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
She's just friends with both of them. What if I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I just feel like, depending on the circumstance, guy's gonna
try it and.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
See absolutely, especially if you're attractive. But then he turned
her down, so I don't know, and she said he flaked.
So what she asking she wants to know whether she
should try with the other guy now. No, I want
to know should I keep them both in a friend
zone or just cut both of them off? As hard
as hell when your friends start to like you, I
just don't know what to do, and.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I don't want to lose them.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yes, keep them in the friend zone booth, But I
think you owe both of them a conversation, you know,
especially if you're writing you're to the point where you're
writing me about this, I think you should have a
conversation with the both of them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Sit down with AJ. You sit down with Jake.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Sit down with Jake first, because he's the one that
came on to you first, and you actually didn't tell
him yeah or nay.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know, you just decided to go on a date
with Jake.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean with AJ, and AJ flaked on you, so
you said at one point they were in competition to
see who can get you first, like who can prove
themselves I guess to be the best for you. I
feel like you need to sit down with Jake and say, yo,
we've been friends since diapers and shit, I don't want
to mess up anything.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
When you first told me that you did like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Me, and you you know, we realized that you had
developed feelings for me. I didn't know what to tell you.
I didn't want to say yes, I didn't want to
say no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
We we you know. I've grown to know who you are.
I know you inside and out. We're friends, We're really
really good friends. I just don't want to risk the
entirety of our friendship if this doesn't work out, because
some friends actually do that. They come on to their
friends and they actually start dating, and they realize that
the shit is not what you know, they thought it
(06:36):
would be, and then now they can't even go back
to being friends because they've already explored more intimately what
a relationship would be like.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think she should keep it as friends.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think they should keep it as friends.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, and she didn't feels aj the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
She said she used to like one of them when
they were younger, when they were all younger, but.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Then they grew up.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like this, it's too many people out here, there's too
many men out here to try to choose between two
really good friends. And then also good friends are very
very hard to come by. So I think if there
were if there were if there wasn't anything going on,
like anything wrong with the friendship at all, don't fuck
(07:18):
it up by trying to fuck with each other. Also,
at the same time, I know she's enjoying that attention
that both of them are basically competing for her love.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Because what woman wouldn't like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, she did say it's annoying, but she also
didn't put a fucking stop to it either and tell
either one of them.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Look, I don't want either one of y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This is crazy. We've been friends for a long time.
I've been you'all homegirl, you know what I'm saying. Let's
just keep it at that. Aj, I did like you
when I was younger. I know you probably know that,
but we were younger.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We're grown now.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't know how old you are, but you know,
if you all are adults, we're adults. We're young adults.
Like No, it's too many efficient tocyy. I just don't
want to fuck our friendship up. We all three of
us have a great friendship. I don't want to a period.
And that's the point blank. I needn't have a story.
This was boring, crazy, because girl, why you come on?
(08:08):
Answer your old question, answered your own goddamn question. Now
we got a commercial, and if you click off this podcast,
I swear I'm ana beat your ass.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Listen. All right, so this is the story? Do you
do you have a story?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
All right, good, that's fine. That's fine because we got
another one. Okay, hey ja, So let me tell you
about my baby daddy. So he got his new little girlfriend. Okay, cool.
I have no problem with that, but our seven year
old daughter does. And not to get me started, when
he bought the girlfriend around my daughter without even asking
me how I would feel about it, which is a
big no no for me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But that's a story for another day.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
My daughter isn't comfortable with her yet, or just not
even comfortable with the fact that her father is seeing
someone else, so I suggested we give her time. He agreed,
then proceeds to do it again and lied, knowing that
my daughter has to come back home to me and
tell me. Of course, we had arguments about it, but
he just feels he can do what he wants and
(09:10):
come to find out, it's two different women.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, nil, Jess.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't want to keep her from seeing her father,
but it comes to a point especially when it has
to do with my child and her comfortability. I have
I haven't let her over there in two weeks, but
she asked about him. I'm just not sure how I
should go about this. I know this is a lot,
but do you have any suggestions?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh my, aha? Now what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
What you said that the baby daddy agreed?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
The baby daddy agreed, I guess to you know, she said,
the fact that our father isn't is seeing someone else,
like the daughter has a problem with that. So I
suggest that we give her time. And he agreed, but
then yeah, but then proceeds to do it again. And
then he lied, like you know, because he knows that
the daughter, I mean, the daughter's going to go back
(10:07):
and tell the mom everything that happened at the dad's house.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Anyway, she's seven years old, and the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Mom honestly probably asks her, like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Like she sounds like she's already exposed to a lot. Anyway,
Has daughter told him? Has a daughter told him what
she felt? I don't think the daughter told the mom,
I mean told the dad. I think the daughter tells
the mom and then the mom then goes to the
dad like, yo, look, this is a problem. I want
to know how long they've been broken up though, because honestly,
(10:38):
let me say, yeah, she doesn't say how long they've
been broken up. She just says it's her baby daddy
and he got a new little girlfriend. But listen, I'm
a woman. And then I you know, I read, I
read into contacts and she said he got a new
little girlfriend. That tells me that there is some type
of intimidation or jealousy there, or they may whether they
have been broken up long or a shorter short pairiod
(11:00):
of time.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She's not past her baby daddy. I get that.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I get that she's not fully moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And he probably is not either.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
He probably probably makes passes at the baby mom. But
before we get there, if y'all are not together, he
certainly can do what he wants to do. I understand
the concerns for your child safety, the concerns for you know,
exposing too many women too quickly to your daughter. She
is only seven. I understand that. However, you kept baby
(11:34):
girl away from him from two for two weeks, and
you said that she asked about her dad. Why not
have her dad come to your house? Why not just say, look,
can you just not have them around? Can you just
take her out somewhere? Like take the daughter out? I
don't you know you can still there are still ways
that she can be around her father without being around
(11:56):
those women. And you know, keeping her away from him
from for two weeks. As you can see, that hurts
the daughter. That doesn't hurt Hugh. It doesn't hurt you know,
the dad as much as it hurts the daughter.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think the docter say something.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You think, Yeah, I mean I think that the dad
should step in and have one on one with his daughter.
I don't think the mom should have anything to do
with it. I think he should also explain to her
that sometimes mommy's and daddies don't say together. I know
you probably want to see because baby girl probably want
to see her mom and her dad together. Yeah, which
is something that she probably already saw. And now she's confused.
(12:32):
There's not one. There's not only this one new woman
that my dad is introducing me to her that I'm
seeing around my father.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But there are two women. Okay. I honestly had reservation
about it when they said neo. When neo, baby mom
was like, yo, you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Got these four women around my kids, like you introduced
them and then you know what I'm saying, like this
is crazy. You have daughters and you have sons and
you're letting them know that this is okay in life.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
And Neil, so you're like, because like live how you
wouldn't live.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But it's just how he just is going about it.
It's just disappointing. Like all of your songs were lies.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I know, and I still be but I don't care.
I know it is crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
He was saying too that like he tells his kids like, yeah,
this one, you know, she'll take you to work.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
This one, Yeah, this one's gonna cook your gonna But
it's like they have rules, but you're teaching yes because
you have daughter. Neil has daughters and sons. He does
I think he just has sons. No, he has daughters too,
I believe, m hmm. But yeah, So I mean I'm
(13:42):
with I'm totally with keeping it real with your kids,
Like you shouldn't lie to your children, know that's what Like,
that's what black families have done up until now. Like
you know what I'm saying, Like back in the day,
they always swept shit under the rug. They lie to
different you know, trying to parents would make it seem
like everything is great in the house.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and it's not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Like even me growing up with two married parents, there's
a lot of shit going on that I didn't find
out about until I was an adult, and that was
their way of protecting us, you know, and do I
think they should have done it another way, just for
the sake of themselves not being happy in a marriage
that long with each other, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I don't feel that you should sacrifice your happiness just
(14:28):
so your kids can see a traditional family dynamic growing up. No,
everything is not the normal. Everything is different for different families.
I would absolutely prefer that my mom put her happiness
before you know, yeah, before hours, honestly, because kids are
gonna adapt.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We we're kids, We're gonna adapt. You know what I'm saying.
You don't have to live a lie.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Don't live a lie so long, you know, because then
your life then passed you by.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Up, Hold up, I know this shit getting good, But
listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If
you love me, you'll listen. I was a kid we didn't.
We would have adapted the fun you know what I'm saying.
My dad was never a bad daddy, just wasn't a
good husband, you know, so that that's just what it was.
He was the greatest father I could have had ever,
and we would have definitely adapted to them living separate
(15:20):
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know what I'm saying. But back to this shit,
What the fuck was the story about again?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Because girl, I'm like the fire know what to do
when it comes to her.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's all.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't want to keep her from saying her father, but
it comes to a point, especially when it has to
do with my child and her comfortability. Yes, but I
do want you to update me on this because I
want to know did you move on from your baby
daddy yet?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know what I mean? I feel like you haven't.
I feel like there is maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I just feel like because because how she describes the
girlfriend the beginning, the new little girlfriend is very telling,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It sounds a little yeah, a little new little.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Girlfriend like and then she didn't even say little she
l I l yeah, oh bitch here that was me
all that when when I was back back, back, end
of the day, Rome had a new little bitch. I
would definitely sound like that, you know what I mean,
rather like now it's more so like oh, Rome's friend
or Rome's girlfriend or you know he's in a relationship now,
you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So I would I refer to Mariah as from.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Friend when you were back in the day, did he
bring me?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I never kept him. I never kept him from ash
was bad ship. Please get him? No, but you can
have him around ten bitches please.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
He didn't care he was around other girls.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You know why because Rome loves his children, has always
loved even when it was just Ashton, like loved my son,
loved his son. So I always trusted that Rome would
never ever put Ashton in harm's way intentionally.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And then I was like over roam very early and.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like my last time even looking at Rome in any
type of way that would give me butterflies was Ashton
was maybe what three months? Oh wow, yeah, like our
baby was young, and the last time we'd actually tried
to get together Ashton was two. And after twenty four hours,
(17:26):
I was like, oh fuck no, it's literally a day
like and I was in a relationship with somebody, and
I left that nigga to try to make it work
again because I wanted to ask you to see the
traditional family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I wanted to give it a chance. I'm like, okay,
I want my family. He was saying the same shit,
and that nigga cheated on me. Oh yeah, saying that
in twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Four hours, and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
When I went to try to go get the nigga back,
and the nigga was like, oh, I'll stay over, and
I was like, no, I don't got a grace period,
like the fun.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Girl m So that's why, that's that's why I'm say.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, you have to really
really move on and be past this shit, because I
honestly don't think she would give a fuck if she
was past the baby daddy.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, honestly yes, and especially if he's a good father.
If he's a good father.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Do you think people that like parents that do feel
the type of way when they bring another person in
too soon, like its sister, they're feelings say that again, like,
do you think that they just have feelings towards their
baby mom or baby dad and when they when they
want to bring around other people like you. You've seen
(18:37):
girls get upset and like, I don't want don't bring
my kid around every girl like I don't know her,
but I feel like I would have to meet the
girl too.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh no, no, no, absolutely, I felt like I definitely
feel like you would have to meet the person. I
don't disagree with that at all, especially if you're gonna
be around my child. I would love to know. And
there's so much shit is going on with people with
kids and shit these days. These people are hurting kids
that are even there, so you know, stepfathers and stepdads
are like hurting kids, killing kids, all types of shit.
(19:08):
So absolutely, I definitely have to know who my child
is going to be around. But this is also another thing.
Is this a serious relationship or is.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
This just a one off?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And I'm saying, would you feel that way if there
just flings?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's been in that situation, and yes, Rome has had thousands.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Of flings, because I would feel I don't think I
need to be have feelings for you for that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, And I think in that case, don't why like,
why do they have to be around my child? If
this is just some somebody that you're talking to, why
do you have to be around my child? Like if
this is just somebody that you know what I mean, Like,
if this is not a committed relationship. Now when it
gets committed and it gets serious, it's like, okay, I'm introducing,
(19:56):
but I would love to meet this person. Yeah, you know,
so then I know I want to be comfortable. I
want to make sure what my child is I'm absent,
you know, in my absence or anything where and while
you are around them or you know, you're with your dad.
Is the girlfriend safe? Is the girlfriend cool? Does she
have kids?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The fund? Does she not a care for a child? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I think that should be a conversation with the parents.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I think this guy is just he just got bitches. Yeah,
you know, because she did say new little girlfriend. Or
maybe he has a new little girlfriend. No, no, maybe
she is the one who made the.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Girl the new little girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, because I don't think he probably what if he
didn't tell her like this, this is my bitch, you
know what I'm saying, Like this my girlfriend, the little
girl probably came back like, oh dad, it was a girl,
you know, and then came back like, oh it was
another girl. You know what I mean, Like, so this
this may be just women that he is around, that
he talked to that do shit for him or whatever,
or just whatever. I don't agree that he's bringing them
(20:53):
around his daughter if he's not going to be with them, right,
m But you got to be able to just spend
time with your child. Just buy yourself with your fucking child.
Like some niggas can't move with our bitches.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But we've come to get the end of another carefully
reckless episode with your girl j just hilarious. Hey bye, Taylor, Bye,
and we're gonna get some updates on these people. I
know it was a lot of boneless stories today, but it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is what it is. I'll catch you next week.
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Welcome to Can't beleeve Reckless, the production of iHeartRadio and
The Black Effects.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Just like that, we back on the air.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome back to get another carefully reckless episode which your
girl Jess hilarious. We got Taylor in the building and
say hi, Taylor. Hi, y'all say hi to Taylor. Okay,
that's my baby Mama. She and here and she's gonna
be helping me fix the mess. We're gonna jump straight
into it again. We have no voice notes and I
get why, but I already see this person can't spell,
so bear with me, all right, All right, hey Girley,
(01:24):
So I'm conflicted. I've been cool with these two guys
since we were in diapers, damn near. But as we
grew older, I started to realize one of them developed
feelings for me.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh my god. I was stuck in some shit like
that before. Let's say his name is Jake.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I wasn't gonna turn him down nor agree because we're friends.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
First.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I didn't want to mess up the friendship. So once
the other boy found out, I'm gonna say his name
is Aj. So once AJ found out his man's liked me,
all hell broke loose. The friendship dynamic was no more.
Now they both just try to prove who's better for me.
But it's quite annoying because I don't want either one
of them. What so the other one I know, I'm
(02:04):
almost I'm almost to the point of confusion as well.
So there she has two friends she grew up with, yes,
basically since in diapers, like they've been cool as fuck,
but she said one of them started developing feelings for her,
and one of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Them she didn't want.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I know, but now she's talking about the second one
development feelings as well, because both of them now were
trying to see who can win her over, like they're
in competition to get her. But she did say that
Shane want to mess up the friendship with Jake, so
Shane want to turn him down or agree to start
dealing with him. So she just like kind of didn't
do anything yet. I know, we got to finish, but
I mean it's kind of a little weird. Yeah, like
(02:43):
she said, I'm gonna take it from a few lines up,
she said, now they both try to prove who's better
for me. Yeah, so both of them like yours, dummy,
and it's quite annoying because I don't want neither one
of them. Okay, Okay, I valued our friendship way more
than anything. Now, don't get me wrong. I did like
aj when we were younger, but it's like he's like
a brother now, and how would I even be able
(03:03):
to do that?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Then Jake just fell back once he realized I wasn't budging.
Then he randomly texts me for a date. I'm not
gonna lie. I actually replied and accepted the fuck you
just said, girl. Then he flaked girls, so that confused me.
They just playing games? Oh my gosh, I don't know.
(03:26):
I'm just here to ask should I choose one or
just try to keep them both in a friend zone
or just cut both of them off. It's hard to
tell when your friends start to like you, and I
just don't know what to do, and I don't want
to lose them. Okay, so you don't want to lose them,
but it's annoying that they like you. You don't like
(03:47):
neither one of them, but you did like one when
you were younger, but you didn't want to fuck up
the friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And that was when you were younger.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So now you get fast forward, you get older. You
don't like me the one of them, but you accepted
a fucking date right that one of them asked you
out on.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think weird?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
What were they just trying to see? I don't know.
I think with guys from in a sense what I've learned.
I think they.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Try to see if they can mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
How long they were friends for.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
She says, since they've been in diapers damn near, both
of them. She's been friends with both of them, Like
all three of them are friends, and she's been well,
you know what. She actually didn't say whether AJ and
Jake were close. She's just been both of their friends.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Hey, girl, I'm so complext that I've been cool with
these two guys since we were in diapers damn near.
But as we grew older, I started to realize one
of them developed feelings for me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Let's say his name is Jake. I wasn't going to
turn him down nor gread.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah. She didn't say whether Jake and AJ were friends,
like all three of them were like collectively friends together
as a group.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
She's just friends with both of them. What if I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I just feel like, depending on the circumstance, guy's gonna
try it and.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
See absolutely, especially if you're attractive. But then he turned
her down, so I don't know, and she said he flaked.
So what she asking she wants to know whether she
should try with the other guy now. No, I want
to know should I keep them both in a friend
zone or just cut both of them off? As hard
as hell when your friends start to like you, I
just don't know what to do, and.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I don't want to lose them.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yes, keep them in the friend zone booth, But I
think you owe both of them a conversation, you know,
especially if you're writing you're to the point where you're
writing me about this, I think you should have a
conversation with the both of them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Sit down with AJ. You sit down with Jake.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Sit down with Jake first, because he's the one that
came on to you first, and you actually didn't tell
him yeah or nay.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know, you just decided to go on a date
with Jake.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean with AJ, and AJ flaked on you, so
you said at one point they were in competition to
see who can get you first, like who can prove
themselves I guess to be the best for you. I
feel like you need to sit down with Jake and say, yo,
we've been friends since diapers and shit, I don't want
to mess up anything.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
When you first told me that you did like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Me, and you you know, we realized that you had
developed feelings for me. I didn't know what to tell you.
I didn't want to say yes, I didn't want to
say no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
We we you know. I've grown to know who you are.
I know you inside and out. We're friends, We're really
really good friends. I just don't want to risk the
entirety of our friendship if this doesn't work out, because
some friends actually do that. They come on to their
friends and they actually start dating, and they realize that
the shit is not what you know, they thought it
(06:36):
would be, and then now they can't even go back
to being friends because they've already explored more intimately what
a relationship would be like.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think she should keep it as friends.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think they should keep it as friends.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, and she didn't feels aj the same thing.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
She said she used to like one of them when
they were younger, when they were all younger, but.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Then they grew up.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like this, it's too many people out here, there's too
many men out here to try to choose between two
really good friends. And then also good friends are very
very hard to come by. So I think if there
were if there were if there wasn't anything going on,
like anything wrong with the friendship at all, don't fuck
(07:18):
it up by trying to fuck with each other. Also,
at the same time, I know she's enjoying that attention
that both of them are basically competing for her love.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Because what woman wouldn't like that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, she did say it's annoying, but she also
didn't put a fucking stop to it either and tell
either one of them.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Look, I don't want either one of y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This is crazy. We've been friends for a long time.
I've been you'all homegirl, you know what I'm saying. Let's
just keep it at that. Aj, I did like you
when I was younger. I know you probably know that,
but we were younger.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We're grown now.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't know how old you are, but you know,
if you all are adults, we're adults. We're young adults.
Like No, it's too many efficient tocyy. I just don't
want to fuck our friendship up. We all three of
us have a great friendship. I don't want to a period.
And that's the point blank. I needn't have a story.
This was boring, crazy, because girl, why you come on?
(08:08):
Answer your old question, answered your own goddamn question. Now
we got a commercial, and if you click off this podcast,
I swear I'm ana beat your ass.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Listen. All right, so this is the story? Do you
do you have a story?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
All right, good, that's fine. That's fine because we got
another one. Okay, hey ja, So let me tell you
about my baby daddy. So he got his new little girlfriend. Okay, cool.
I have no problem with that, but our seven year
old daughter does. And not to get me started, when
he bought the girlfriend around my daughter without even asking
me how I would feel about it, which is a
big no no for me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But that's a story for another day.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
My daughter isn't comfortable with her yet, or just not
even comfortable with the fact that her father is seeing
someone else, so I suggested we give her time. He agreed,
then proceeds to do it again and lied, knowing that
my daughter has to come back home to me and
tell me. Of course, we had arguments about it, but
he just feels he can do what he wants and
(09:10):
come to find out, it's two different women.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, nil, Jess.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't want to keep her from seeing her father,
but it comes to a point especially when it has
to do with my child and her comfortability. I have
I haven't let her over there in two weeks, but
she asked about him. I'm just not sure how I
should go about this. I know this is a lot,
but do you have any suggestions?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh my, aha? Now what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
What you said that the baby daddy agreed?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
The baby daddy agreed, I guess to you know, she said,
the fact that our father isn't is seeing someone else,
like the daughter has a problem with that. So I
suggest that we give her time. And he agreed, but
then yeah, but then proceeds to do it again. And
then he lied, like you know, because he knows that
the daughter, I mean, the daughter's going to go back
(10:07):
and tell the mom everything that happened at the dad's house.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Anyway, she's seven years old, and the.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Mom honestly probably asks her, like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Like she sounds like she's already exposed to a lot. Anyway,
Has daughter told him? Has a daughter told him what
she felt? I don't think the daughter told the mom,
I mean told the dad. I think the daughter tells
the mom and then the mom then goes to the
dad like, yo, look, this is a problem. I want
to know how long they've been broken up though, because honestly,
(10:38):
let me say, yeah, she doesn't say how long they've
been broken up. She just says it's her baby daddy
and he got a new little girlfriend. But listen, I'm
a woman. And then I you know, I read, I
read into contacts and she said he got a new
little girlfriend. That tells me that there is some type
of intimidation or jealousy there, or they may whether they
have been broken up long or a shorter short pairiod
(11:00):
of time.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She's not past her baby daddy. I get that.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I get that she's not fully moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And he probably is not either.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
He probably probably makes passes at the baby mom. But
before we get there, if y'all are not together, he
certainly can do what he wants to do. I understand
the concerns for your child safety, the concerns for you know,
exposing too many women too quickly to your daughter. She
is only seven. I understand that. However, you kept baby
(11:34):
girl away from him from two for two weeks, and
you said that she asked about her dad. Why not
have her dad come to your house? Why not just say, look,
can you just not have them around? Can you just
take her out somewhere? Like take the daughter out? I
don't you know you can still there are still ways
that she can be around her father without being around
(11:56):
those women. And you know, keeping her away from him
from for two weeks. As you can see, that hurts
the daughter. That doesn't hurt Hugh. It doesn't hurt you know,
the dad as much as it hurts the daughter.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think the docter say something.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You think, Yeah, I mean I think that the dad
should step in and have one on one with his daughter.
I don't think the mom should have anything to do
with it. I think he should also explain to her
that sometimes mommy's and daddies don't say together. I know
you probably want to see because baby girl probably want
to see her mom and her dad together. Yeah, which
is something that she probably already saw. And now she's confused.
(12:32):
There's not one. There's not only this one new woman
that my dad is introducing me to her that I'm
seeing around my father.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But there are two women. Okay. I honestly had reservation
about it when they said neo. When neo, baby mom
was like, yo, you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Got these four women around my kids, like you introduced
them and then you know what I'm saying, like this
is crazy. You have daughters and you have sons and
you're letting them know that this is okay in life.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
And Neil, so you're like, because like live how you
wouldn't live.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
But it's just how he just is going about it.
It's just disappointing. Like all of your songs were lies.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I know, and I still be but I don't care.
I know it is crazy.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
He was saying too that like he tells his kids like, yeah,
this one, you know, she'll take you to work.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
This one, Yeah, this one's gonna cook your gonna But
it's like they have rules, but you're teaching yes because
you have daughter. Neil has daughters and sons. He does
I think he just has sons. No, he has daughters too,
I believe, m hmm. But yeah, So I mean I'm
(13:42):
with I'm totally with keeping it real with your kids,
Like you shouldn't lie to your children, know that's what Like,
that's what black families have done up until now. Like
you know what I'm saying, Like back in the day,
they always swept shit under the rug. They lie to
different you know, trying to parents would make it seem
like everything is great in the house.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and it's not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Like even me growing up with two married parents, there's
a lot of shit going on that I didn't find
out about until I was an adult, and that was
their way of protecting us, you know, and do I
think they should have done it another way, just for
the sake of themselves not being happy in a marriage
that long with each other, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I don't feel that you should sacrifice your happiness just
(14:28):
so your kids can see a traditional family dynamic growing up. No,
everything is not the normal. Everything is different for different families.
I would absolutely prefer that my mom put her happiness
before you know, yeah, before hours, honestly, because kids are
gonna adapt.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We we're kids, We're gonna adapt. You know what I'm saying.
You don't have to live a lie.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Don't live a lie so long, you know, because then
your life then passed you by.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Up, Hold up, I know this shit getting good, But
listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If
you love me, you'll listen. I was a kid we didn't.
We would have adapted the fun you know what I'm saying.
My dad was never a bad daddy, just wasn't a
good husband, you know, so that that's just what it was.
He was the greatest father I could have had ever,
and we would have definitely adapted to them living separate
(15:20):
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know what I'm saying. But back to this shit,
What the fuck was the story about again?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Because girl, I'm like the fire know what to do
when it comes to her.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's all.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't want to keep her from saying her father, but
it comes to a point, especially when it has to
do with my child and her comfortability. Yes, but I
do want you to update me on this because I
want to know did you move on from your baby
daddy yet?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You know what I mean? I feel like you haven't.
I feel like there is maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I just feel like because because how she describes the
girlfriend the beginning, the new little girlfriend is very telling,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It sounds a little yeah, a little new little.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Girlfriend like and then she didn't even say little she
l I l yeah, oh bitch here that was me
all that when when I was back back, back, end
of the day, Rome had a new little bitch. I
would definitely sound like that, you know what I mean,
rather like now it's more so like oh, Rome's friend
or Rome's girlfriend or you know he's in a relationship now,
you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So I would I refer to Mariah as from.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Friend when you were back in the day, did he
bring me?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I never kept him. I never kept him from ash
was bad ship. Please get him? No, but you can
have him around ten bitches please.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
He didn't care he was around other girls.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You know why because Rome loves his children, has always
loved even when it was just Ashton, like loved my son,
loved his son. So I always trusted that Rome would
never ever put Ashton in harm's way intentionally.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And then I was like over roam very early and.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Like my last time even looking at Rome in any
type of way that would give me butterflies was Ashton
was maybe what three months? Oh wow, yeah, like our
baby was young, and the last time we'd actually tried
to get together Ashton was two. And after twenty four hours,
(17:26):
I was like, oh fuck no, it's literally a day
like and I was in a relationship with somebody, and
I left that nigga to try to make it work
again because I wanted to ask you to see the
traditional family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I wanted to give it a chance. I'm like, okay,
I want my family. He was saying the same shit,
and that nigga cheated on me. Oh yeah, saying that
in twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Four hours, and I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
When I went to try to go get the nigga back,
and the nigga was like, oh, I'll stay over, and
I was like, no, I don't got a grace period,
like the fun.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Girl m So that's why, that's that's why I'm say.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, you have to really
really move on and be past this shit, because I
honestly don't think she would give a fuck if she
was past the baby daddy.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, honestly yes, and especially if he's a good father.
If he's a good father.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Do you think people that like parents that do feel
the type of way when they bring another person in
too soon, like its sister, they're feelings say that again, like,
do you think that they just have feelings towards their
baby mom or baby dad and when they when they
want to bring around other people like you. You've seen
(18:37):
girls get upset and like, I don't want don't bring
my kid around every girl like I don't know her,
but I feel like I would have to meet the
girl too.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh no, no, no, absolutely, I felt like I definitely
feel like you would have to meet the person. I
don't disagree with that at all, especially if you're gonna
be around my child. I would love to know. And
there's so much shit is going on with people with
kids and shit these days. These people are hurting kids
that are even there, so you know, stepfathers and stepdads
are like hurting kids, killing kids, all types of shit.
(19:08):
So absolutely, I definitely have to know who my child
is going to be around. But this is also another thing.
Is this a serious relationship or is.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
This just a one off?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And I'm saying, would you feel that way if there
just flings?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's been in that situation, and yes, Rome has had thousands.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Of flings, because I would feel I don't think I
need to be have feelings for you for that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, And I think in that case, don't why like,
why do they have to be around my child? If
this is just some somebody that you're talking to, why
do you have to be around my child? Like if
this is just somebody that you know what I mean, Like,
if this is not a committed relationship. Now when it
gets committed and it gets serious, it's like, okay, I'm introducing,
(19:56):
but I would love to meet this person. Yeah, you know,
so then I know I want to be comfortable. I
want to make sure what my child is I'm absent,
you know, in my absence or anything where and while
you are around them or you know, you're with your dad.
Is the girlfriend safe? Is the girlfriend cool? Does she
have kids?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
The fund? Does she not a care for a child? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I think that should be a conversation with the parents.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I think this guy is just he just got bitches. Yeah,
you know, because she did say new little girlfriend. Or
maybe he has a new little girlfriend. No, no, maybe
she is the one who made the.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Girl the new little girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, because I don't think he probably what if he
didn't tell her like this, this is my bitch, you
know what I'm saying, Like this my girlfriend, the little
girl probably came back like, oh dad, it was a girl,
you know, and then came back like, oh it was
another girl. You know what I mean, Like, so this
this may be just women that he is around, that
he talked to that do shit for him or whatever,
or just whatever. I don't agree that he's bringing them
(20:53):
around his daughter if he's not going to be with them, right,
m But you got to be able to just spend
time with your child. Just buy yourself with your fucking child.
Like some niggas can't move with our bitches.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Weird.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But we've come to get the end of another carefully
reckless episode with your girl j just hilarious. Hey bye, Taylor, Bye,
and we're gonna get some updates on these people. I
know it was a lot of boneless stories today, but it.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is what it is. I'll catch you next week.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
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