Chaos with Maria Georgas

Gia is sitting down with the queen of Bachelor Nation, Maria Georgas!

Maria opens up about her dating life, who is sliding in her DMs, and *those* Bachelorette rumors.

Plus, she addressing ALL her hookup headlines…

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week we have a very special guest, Maria. Welcome
to Casual Chaos.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I am so excited to have you. I feel like
this year, influencing content creating has blown up so much,
and with your platform of obviously The Bachelor, Yeah, has
that changed your life?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Honestly, Like, it's crazy where it's taken me. And like,
although after coming off of it, I was like, I
didn't want to become like an influencer type, Like I
didn't expect for it to like blow up the way.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
That it did.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I've been a big fan of the show always. Everyone
knows this, and yeah, I didn't expect what was it.
I didn't expect from like even call her daddy, reaching
out like stuff like that. The things I've done since
the show, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's like wild, and you know a lot of people
are go on the yes to find love, but then
also to get some incentive for themselves. But that was
not your intention, even in the slightest, Like it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
So funny because I was very honest about wanting to
go on the show. To go on the show because
I loved the show, but not like I think people
can recognize that I'm not trying to be an influencer.
I actually kind of suck at it. I like my Instagram,
I barely posted. Actually, more recently, i've been okay with it.
But yeah, no, definitely wasn't thinking that I wanted to

(01:29):
do influencing after the show.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I just really wanted to be on the show. Yeah. Yeah, also,
but I loved that would have been the better alternative.
But yeah, that didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
But it's not like you and Joey did not have
a connection. And it's funny because I obviously The Bachelor
is such a famous show, The Bachelor and Bachelorette.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Not a religious watcher, and my friends and I so
happened to watch your season. So watching it, I was
a die hard for you, die hard. I wanted you
to win. I just thought everything about you, you had
the confidence, you were beautiful, and I also felt that
Italian vibe from you. Yeah, so I was like, she's

(02:12):
gonna take it home and whenever he would do like
a left turn, but then I also felt left turns
from you. I was like, uh, I know she's not
in it. Well, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
And that's funny that you say the Italian thing. It's like,
we have that strong personality.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I know.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Your mom is like, that's why I love that about
your family, is that you're strong, You're loud. You guys
are like you say it how it is and you know.
And so I always said, like, the people that are
gonna get me are going to be my kind of people. Yes,
although that wasn't the case for everyone. It was you
either loved me or hated me. It was there was
no in between. Yeah, but so I love to hear that.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It was very obvious, even from a viewer standpoint though,
to see that you were being attacked.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I mean, and it's so crazy. Actually, I was
getting coffee today and a girl came up to me
and she was like, to be honest, was it real?
Like did it like housewives?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know what I mean? And I'm like, you know,
what's so funny.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's like, as a viewer of the show, sometimes I'm like,
there's just no way these fights are so dumb.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
There's no there's something's like off.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Until I went on the show and then I realized,
oh my god, there are just people out there that
you know. But here's the thing about Sydney, I like
appreciate her now, like looking back, I can really because
we needed that.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
That like made the show in ways. It kind of
made the season iconic. That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I needed, Like, I mean, I wasn't gonna gonna start dramma,
but I was okay to it happened.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And yeah, you know, you also have to always think
about it. Your haters are also your biggest cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well I mean she not that I say, a cheerleader.
Did you see her cheer? That was a kind of fitting.
I thought, Okay, that was fun.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I'm sorry I forgot about that, which you know what
I kind of feel like in person was it was better?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I promise?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean, but then again, when you are
also in a setting like that, you guys don't get
your phones, right, no, yes, so you don't get your phones.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's very isolating.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You're around a bunch of girls, you're basically fighting over
the same man.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, you're gonna go insane.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
There's no way that people could think that that shit's
not real, because I would kill a bit.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, you know, I don't know how you went on
that show, I would die.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, So I went into it with the mindset that
he's gonna pick one of us, so ideally, let's just
all get.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Along and then do the best bitchmen you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well whatever, But I tried to just really just tell myself, like,
if it's not me, it's not meant to be. Like,
I didn't want to be in an environment where I'm
fighting these women for a man.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't. That's why I'll never do a show where
it's like that again.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
And at the same time, it's kind of self respect
for yourself. Yeah, you don't want to seem desperate, no,
and you want to just look confident. And I feel
like that's even women struggle, regardless of the bachelor or not,
when you really want a man but a man doesn't
want you. You never want to come off desperate. No,
you want to come off confident because then you would

(05:12):
think the man would want you more. Well.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, and I think that also, like there's no point
of like overstepping or giving too much when like it's
kind of smart to be self aware and like know
your place, And I think I knew my place almost
too much to the point where like producers are like
Maria like, no, you're you're, you're, you're it, You're he
likes you.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And I was like, I don't know, I think it's Kelsey, guys.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I'm telling you, Like I was so self aware to
the point where I was like self sabotaging.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, and yeah, although I could.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have like tried, you know, to continue it, but you know,
when you just know that it's not you, you have
the feeling, you just know and like I and maybe
I could have been wrong in times and maybe I
was like again in my head too much, but.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I think I mean, now I got my ass at home.
I think I was right. But it's it's very hard
in that environment. Yeah, it brings it can bring out
the worst and uh, but it can bring out the
best too.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
There were a lot of good moments too that I
wish we're shown with the girls, like, yeah, we had
a lot more funny moments, but obviously the drama will
over always.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like always over. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's how it is,
even on Housewives.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, honestly, I love reality. I would like to do
more of it, and I think just in a more like.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, that's why people are fell in love with you
because you felt really real and but that's why it
also stuck past the Bachelor.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well, thank you for saying that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm like, I don't know, no, no, I mean, hello,
you were unwell this week?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Guy? Yeah, no, that's crazy, and like you need to
come to one of those events. I would love to. Yeah,
my god, she would love to have you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Wait, definitely, yeah, let me talk about that.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Wait, I love that though, because I was gonna say,
you were like raised around cameras. Yeah, like you're like
more used to it than anything.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Like, Yeah, I'm definitely used to it. It started from
when I was eight. Wow. And yeah, my mom was
the OG, so she's been on it from the start.
She's the only standing OG damn, So kudos to mom.
But yeah, now she's been through a lot. It's definitely
been a ride. We've been through a ton on this show,

(07:21):
and it's been a lot of ups and downs with.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
My family and you know, we made it out.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
And everyone's doing really good right now, but then we
still go through ups and downs.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's just it doesn't but that's real life.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
That's what people want to see that it's like authentically, Yes,
your family and you know what I mean, like, no
one's perfect.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, I don't know. I like that side of things,
of showing the realness of that.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, speaking of unwell, I always wondered, are the parties
as crazy as they look? Oh? Yeah, there's so much fun,
Like I'm not getting like I was because I was
just in Miami for my cousin's batch party. Were you
there around the same time, like, oh week, No, like
a couple of weeks, I'm gonna says I.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Would have like, oh, I know, I know it was.
They're crazy. They're crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, so you were drunk? Oh well, I mean yeah,
like we were having like a good old time for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean like it's hard not to be. There's so
much access to all the drinks, and then it's.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Like all the people that are there, you know, I
think everyone's like really comfortable with each other so regardless
in that environment, Yeah, we're all like in it together.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know. No, for sure, they look crazy and know
so much fun. And she picked like such amazing people too.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
She always brings the best crew, and I think, like,
like I said, everyone just gets.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Along so well, so it makes it even more fun.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Did you do know everyone prior. It's kind of like
a random brand trip in a way.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, I know, like the people that I were under
and well like originally because I've gone to like other events,
but this time she's invited new people and I got
to know and meet new people. So yeah, it's always fun.
It's always good, and she always brings a good crew.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I saw Rachel kirkconin Oh my god, Kirconnell, would you
say her?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Connic? I love it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But you know, she even when I was like reading
her name prior, but I love you.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh, she's the best. So it's so funny because I've never.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Met her, okay, and I know she was under yeah right,
not her, but just her relations relationship.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, but she's doing great and she looks like she's
she's thriving, and she's such a respectful woman, like the
way she holds herself.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I have so much respect for her. Well, you guys
probably bonded because Bachelor.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, so we had followed each other for a while
and I know we both wanted to meet each other,
but you know, life goes on, and then it just
so happened we ended up at the same event and
we hit it off like as if I've known her forever.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But that's the best feeling.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
But that's why I knew she was going to be
a real one from watching her season and then meeting
her in person was like ten times better love And
I love that those kinds of moments, you know, because
you never know what you're gonna get with some.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
People one hundred percent. But no, she's and then also
after being in the public eye for a while because
she still also you know, followed that influencing career prior,
she's great after the Bachelor and everything, Yeah, yeah, exactly, No, Yeah,
she's done really well for herself, and you know with
her relationship and stuff like that. They were really like
good at influencing together and doing all the food that

(10:21):
you know, and that must have been hard to like
break apart from. Yeah, but you also have to do
what's best for you, absolutely and has been. So I'm
very happy to see her. And then Tyler Cameron also Bachelor,
and he's another one that I actually got to know
this trip, his girlfriend Tate Like love them.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, she's adorable, she's the.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Best, and she's so funny and they were just so
funny together, like again, and I love that where.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
She was also came on the Unwell trip. Was there
any like conversations about Matt James, I know, because Rachel
was there, or does she really try to like steer
clear from.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
She She she's very respectful in the sense of, like,
you know, like she still appreciates the relationship.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
There's no bad blood like in that.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
She will never speak negative on that, which I respect
that so much.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Speaking of just being single out in the world, what
is the status on your dating, Well, yeah, I'm single,
which is so crazy because I thought, you know, I'm
like the year that I'm gonna have I'm gonna like
go back to reality and do my own thing. But
I thought for sure I was gonna like probably be
in a relationship by thirty.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Or at least have like a prospect.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
But I feel like, and a lot of people say this,
and I'm sure you see it while being in New
York more often that thirty is so young. Oh it's different,
especially and now, I mean I get it coming from
Italian families, they do everything super young. Everything is done
at a younger age, and you feel the pressure.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But even being in New.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
York, a lot I see influencers in New York friends
in New York. They're in their late twenties and thirties
and still figuring it out.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, of course, and now, yeah, that'll always be me.
I'm very honest about it too, Like as a thirty
year old, like, of course, when you're twenty five, you
think by thirty, I'm gonna have kids, you know what
I mean. And now I'm thirty, I'm like, oh my god,
I'm nowhere near yes ready for that. But I definitely
am open and and like I want a relationship. I like,
I'm ready for that. Yeah. But yeah, I definitely thought

(12:34):
I thought i'd be sitting here and telling you about that.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
But yeah, how about you. I've been with my boyfriend
for like six years.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's so nice. Yeah to his mom and dad love.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Love Yeah yeah, my mom loves him anything she needs.
It's Christian.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
But my dad he visits him with me in the
Bahamas because my dad lives in the Bahamas.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Nice. Yeah, I love the Bahamas.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's beautiful there. Yeah, my dad was deported. I don't
know if you know that. No, well damn. So we
went through legal issues and my mom ended up going
away first for a little under a year. Then when
my mom came home, my dad went away, so it
was like swapping up the parents. And my dad went

(13:25):
away my freshman year of high school and never came
home from prison. They deported him and he was only
living in Italy for a year. So my grandparents brought
him to America when he was one years old. But
the laws changed, so his dad became a citizen before
he was eighteen, an American citizen.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Was your mom an American citizen? Yes? So then I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I don't know. I thought so too, that it was
that you would automatically become one. I still have questions. Yeah,
it's still crazy. And then my grandma became a citizen
when my dad was nineteen. The law was at the time,
your mother needs to become a citizen before you're eighteen
years old, you'll.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Automatically become an American citizen. My nana did it when
he was nineteen.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
So then from eighteen on he was responsible for making
himself an American citizen, which is where he looked up. No,
so he was in jail for about like three and
a half years, okay, then went straight to went straight
to Italy. He was in ice and then at that
point he kind of was like, I need to call
it quits. It was just a very crazy experience, very

(14:40):
hard on the mind. Yeah, I was safe for you, like, yeah,
it was you know more so honestly for us we
could only say daddy fight. Yeah, and for him he's
actually living it.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
When he was in ice, he lost like thirty pounds.
It was worse than prison. It was like crazy experience.
So it was definitely rough, considering he's also been in
the States since he was one. Yeah, and it's still
as rough. I mean, we go visit him, but it's
it's not the same, you know as having your father present.

(15:11):
And I know your dad was such an important part,
is such an important part of your life, you know,
So it was to imagine it was. It's definitely rough
even now. I actually just got back from visiting him.
Arriving in Bahamas is always so amazing. Leaving is the
hardest part.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
It does.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't think it ever the tears will ever end.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, of course not. It's your father, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Which is crazy, even though you know, I know he
might have not made the best decisions, but they were
never he did his time. Though he did his time.
He wasn't ever hurting anybody. He was never malicious. There
was no malicious intent, and he's just not a malicious person.
So your dad is someone that's really important in your life.

(15:54):
How did he take the whole thing? Was he just
happy for you and happy for your decision?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well, when I first mentioned that I wanted to go
on the show, he was not excited.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I could only imagine he was just not about it.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
You know, he's very protective of me, so like he's
just like, I don't want you going. And like, first
of all, he knew he can't call.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Me like we talk every day, which you know, like.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, Like, I mean he trusts me, and like I
you know, at the end of the day, like I was,
so I'm like, I'm doing it. And I didn't even
know I was doing it until three days before they
called me.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
They're like, yeah, we're flying you out, but we don't
we're not confirming that you're on the show yet. What. Yeah. Yeah,
So I was in the hotel where they have all
the girls and they're doing like the pre interview.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Theres girls that go there that's and then get.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
What we're told.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think everyone that that has happened before though, Yes,
but I think everyone that was in the hotel for
our season ended up going on. That's why we had
the most girls, Like I don't think. I don't think
there's ever been a season with thirty two girls. It
was like twenty five or something, oh, twenty seven, but
our girls, there.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was a lot of us.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
But I remember sitting in the hotel room and right
away they take our phones. So now I'm sitting in
a hotel room being like, I need to call my dad.
I need to tell him that I'm I'm gonna be
on the show, like he had to find out through
reality Steve basically because he like announced the cast. But
I was able to get like a producer to give

(17:26):
me her phone at the time to just be like, Okay, Daddy,
I'm actually going on.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But it's a crazy process.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
And I understand where his concerns and fears were.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I had those.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Same fears because I didn't want to go and not
be able to talk to talk to my family. But
coming back, I don't think he expected the audience or
people watching the show to have loved me, like I
know obviously he knows like he sees that in me,
but coming back, all I had to say to him
was everything that happened, and he was like.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
What the hell did you just go through? So we
both were like, what are we about to watch?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, but thankfully, by the grace of God, people got
to see the reality of how things went and kind
of where things went wrong. And yeah, I felt protected
in the edit, not in the edit, but like I
mean like they showed on it very well. That's what
I was working because I was I thought when I
was in the house and the girls, some of the

(18:22):
girls were just I was rubbing them the wrong way
for some reason. And I remember I had girls like
Edwina and the sisters and like girls that kind of
went home early on, but they were like my like
in the house, like I needed them because we were
one and the same.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And so when they left, I was like, oh my god,
I'm now.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm like I don't know, I just don't I don't
belong here, Like I'm just not it's just not a
good moment for me kind of.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And it was very obvious that you felt as if
you were the odd one out. Yeah, and it was
everyone ganging up on you, but you really held your
own the entire season. But I think that's why everyone
admired you so much, because you were so confident and
it ever really showed through the screen.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I am so serious.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I appreciate that because I one of my biggest thing
was like, I'm gonna go there be myself, because when
my family's gonna watch me, I want them to be like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's if I went on and did.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Something that is just out of my comfort zone or
like out of character, then people would be like, who
are you trying to like, you know, fool, but no, truthfully, honestly,
Like that's why I was so happy that it showed
the things like you guys saw the reality of what.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I was going through.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And I don't know if she expected a different result.
I don't know if she maybe expected people to be like, yeah, Sidney,
get the bully out.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I was like, guys, people were working a nine to five.
Right now we're on a yacht. Let's let's be cool, girl.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
And I think I said that her.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I'm like, oh, let's just be grateful for this moment,
like look around, yeah, look around. I ain't attacking you, sister,
but look around and see the view. Let's have fun today.
And that's kind of like where my like what I
was constantly trying to tell myself, like, just enjoy your time.
You don't know it can be your last stake, so
just enjoy your time here. And that's why I was like,
why are people trying to make it difficult for themselves too?

(20:10):
But yeah, no I And that's why I think the
best part about the cameras were that they were there
and always there.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
It was like protect or they can hurt you, but yea,
they protect it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I need that.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
I was like please, And I remember telling the camera man,
I'm like, put it all in.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I was begging them at one but I'm like put this.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
In, please show everything because I'm like was going crazy?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Like am I going nuts? Am I nuts? Who's nuts?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
It makes you question, of course, when you're not also
dealing with somebody that's trying to manipulate every word that
you're saying. I was when the best was when she
was like, which again we can laugh about and.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I worked so cool. Now it's just different.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
But I just remember watching it, mind you, because when
you're watching it, you see people's confessionals and they're saying
things that you're hearing for the first time You're like
and I'm like, damn, that girl didn't like I didn't
even know that girl didn't like me.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
There was a couple of them where I was like,
oh shit.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
But with Sidney when she was like she I can't
go into a room without Maria or feeling like Maria
is gonna attack me, I'm like, I don't know, maybe
we have a different definition of attack, but.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
But for the most fart, I was like, I appreciate it.
Now I can really sit back and just be like, yeah,
that was a good time.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's what made But that's what made you like so
iconic too. Obviously, following the Bachelor, there was so much
noise about you becoming the bachelorette. I was the second

(21:45):
and you got off. I was like, this is it.
I'm excited. I'm going to watch Maria's bachelorette season. But
I was obviously. I know you were asked and you
said that it was very overwhelming on call Her Daddy
and that you kind of needed a step back. Yeah,
I'm curious because you got so much positive feedback and

(22:07):
everyone loved you. What made you feel so overwhelmed? Was
it the like, was it just everything to like, so
it was just.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Like again the whole thing of being self aware and
like knowing yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I was like, I don't want to waste anyone's time.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It would be like people love as much as they
love the drama, they love the love story too, And
I wanted to feel like I can one hundred percent
put my like full soul into this because I want
you know, but like and I've said this before, going
through what I went through on the show, like having
to rewatch it all back, like it was hard during it,

(22:46):
and I don't think I fully got to process it.
And I just knew if I did not take the
time to process it, like everything I was feeling I
was having like I was getting like bad panic attacks
like during the show, like I was going through it
because again no family, no friends, like just like yeah,
it's it's draining and traumatic.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Also, like you were saying, if you get a bad edit,
you're probably thinking, okay, there is also a possibility that
I could be made to look like.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well, there was a murmur before the show started that
I was a villain, and I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
But I know that probably already sent you into a spiral.
Well I would have like that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, to be honest, I wasn't even that scared because
I was like, no, I'm not a villain.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, so I'm like, what can.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
They even edit to show me being a villain, Like,
I don't even think I gave them any kind of
content where they can even make me seem like it.
Maybe maybe my face facial expressions like they can. But
I was like, that was kind exactly exactly weird on
her face with her hands like we don't you know?
But I was I honestly, when I saw that I

(23:55):
was the villain quote unquote online, I wasn't worried.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm to be honest, it had nothing to do with that.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
But I think it was emotionally draining with the girls
like I was. I was always like feeling like I
was on the attack because and that hurt me. Like
I would like one night like after the whole, like
I remember Sidney and I having such a great day
and then later in the night I was called the bully.
I cried myself to sleep that night, like it was

(24:22):
I was like, please, like.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Let me go home because no one wants me here.
Why am I here?

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Like I don't want to have to stay another day
if it meant me having to go through the drama
with the girls. So I was like literally crying myself
to sleep every night I was going through it on
the show. So when I got home to my friends
and family, I got like a little bit of time
to like kind of try to recover.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
How quick is the turnaround time?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Like, oh my god, I got back to then, like
when you got back to them asking you so like
so oh for Bachelorette, Yeah, like for you to even
process like you want it.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
To be honest.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
For example, January it started, and I think bachelor I
would be March March.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
So you got sent home. I got sent home, so
I had maybe like well like a month. Oh it's
like a quick it's a quick.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Turnover, like turnover and like again I would need to
go through. But mind you, oh there are they filming
when they do tells all right.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
After like you go and you do like the limo entrances.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, wow, oh that day Yeah that's.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Crazy, well like probably two days after. But I never
did that, so I know there was like rumors about
me filming. I never filmed anything. No, I just I
really just know myself and.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
So it was a quick turnaround. Again, you felt exhausted.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I was drained and then it is exhausting though, when
you feel like you're always trying to defend yourself, to
defend your character. It was, it was, it was definitely exhausting.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, but what you like, like you said, like, well
everyone was very positive, so how could you feel that way?
I'm like that's what kept me sane, Like I literally
was so grateful for that where I was almost like, Okay,
maybe I should do it, but then I was like no, Maria,
like just just take your step back, go back to reality.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like were you.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Even ready to really fine love yet?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Like, yeah, one hundred percent. I didn't go on the
like I went on the.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Show saying for if you were on the Bachelorette, like
or were you just so mentally like not there yet?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
No, Like I'm so so so ready for a relationship.
That's why I was. I wanted that that was my
outcome that I envisioned. So then going on the Bachelor,
I just didn't know if I can handle all these
season of that, like having all.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
These conversations with all these guys and like really trying
to be the like you you need to be on
your A game, you need to give you have to
be very open to all these men.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
And so that's probably so exhausting. I mean, it would
just be hard.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
It would it would be hard, and I can't imagine
what one would go through.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Like even Joey on our season.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
You you saw his down days where he was just
so you know, it's mentally exhausting. And I think, again,
just it's okay to say no, and especially in this industry,
I love saying no. I know that sounds like messed up,
but like reality is, I'm just a regular Canadian girl.
Like I'm not trying to like do everything and anything.

(27:20):
I want to do things that excite me and that
I'm happy to do and I'm so grateful that I've
been able to do certain things. But again, like I'm
not afraid to say no, and I think I just
need to be I just need to like look over
myself along the way.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
So then with you being okay to say no to things,
I know that the Bachelorette's on hold right now, which
is kind of crazy. I don't have that ever even happened,
not that I know of, but I truly think that
they need a revamp, and I think they need to
do some things differently.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So this whole I it could help things like.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Did they ask anyone were you at asked to be
on the Bachelor app prior to this hold.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm gonna be so honest with you, I really don't
want to be a part of that narrative again because
of what happened the last time, Like for whoever they
asked and who wants to talk about it. I think
what I thought, I think something that you can appreciate
and I know is just honesty.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
And I thought me coming out and saying my truth.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
And you were asked the first time and.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Just saying like I just you know, I thought, you know,
I mind. I didn't speak for months until like I
was asked on call or Daddy, But I just figured
now nowadays it's better to just.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Kind of err it out there, just just let it be,
you know. I know people are interested.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I know when I'm asked, I want whatever, But I
just think, I don't know, I don't even know how
to answer it. But Bachelor being on past is probably
a good thing for them, But at being asked, don't
there's a lot of girls that came out that said
that they were asked, so maybe they'll pick one of them.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'm like really trying to answer with it, like I'm
so scarred from like that interview coming out and saying
what happened the last time that. I'm like, I'm so
I don't want to be a part of this narrative anymore.
My loss, well, the whole thing, the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
With like me saying my piece, like people thought I
would like take away from the moment, and I yeah,
I can't even speak it, like literally traumatizes me because
I'm like, oh my god, all I did was just
answer a question and then it became the worst thing
in the world.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Okay, yeah, I got it. They could take the smallest
thing and blow it up.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So I'm like, I don't I really don't want to
be a part of a narrative of like, oh, what
were you asked?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Were you not?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm like, so, you you think your time on the
Bachelor is kind of just it's concluded, it's it's done.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well, did you hear what they're doing with Paradise. They're
bringing the Golden Golden Bachelor and Bachelorettes with like young people.
Mm hmmm, they're going to mix them, mix them on
the beach. How do you feel about that as a viewer,
I think that's so weird. I'm just also thinking like

(30:02):
old school mentality, like in the aspect.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Of my dad's not going to want to see me
on a.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Beach with an older man.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I think they're they're always trying to like do something
new to spice things up. Of course, so I'm excited
to see how it's going to go. I'm not doing
verydis I've made that very clear.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't want to go in a reality ship where
I fight for a guy ever again.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, ever again.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's not fun. No, you want to feel chosen. Yeah,
I think that's the end of the day too. I
think any girl wants to feel chosen, and as much
as the bachelor is in an amazing experience. And you
said how Gentran was like so amazing to be a bachelorette,
and I feel so bad for her everything that she
went through, but thank god, now she's so happy with Sasha.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Are they together? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,
I don't know. I think Okay, well no, no, I think
her So she had an happy ending.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I mean she also popped off. You know, you would
do so good on Dancing with Sorry, thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I wish one day. I always said, I'm like, I'll
never say no if I ever was asking.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, no, I mean it's such a good opportunity. It's
such a fun show too. Do I think the Stars
is another one with The Bachelor that I grew up
watching because I feel like Dancing with the Stars was.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Always have They always have a Bachelor bachelorette on it.
So yeah, yeah, that's it's it's a great show.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
But yeah, so she found love. Yeah, god, but I
mean there's others we had a rough experience too. Yeah,
but if you're ready for that then that's totally fine.
But it definitely is a hard experience. I wouldn't think
that it's easy on anybody.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
No, I I think like I'm like old school, I
want to I want to meet someone just organically, like
out and about you know, did.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
The Bachelor kind of settle that answer for you?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Well, I mean it's definitely opened my dating pool, Like
I've met a lot of great people from it.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
And has The Bachelor heard it or made it better? No?
I think Well, I mean I'll try to say positive.
I think it's been good.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I think it's weird when like maybe they know too
much or they watch the show. But I think it's
I mean, regardless, I don't think anything changed in that
in that department. Would you say, you now are meeting
more people that I don't even want to say, like people.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That are not like normal or public eye people.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Oh, I mean it's a mix of both probably well, because.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You know, what what I can say is that being
on the show, it's it's allowed me to like meet
a lot of new people at like fun events and
like fancy events and so like, yeah, like it's brought
in my horizons. But yeah, I don't know, I've I've
just gone back to just I'll meet anyone if I
like them.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I like them.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
If you're if you were on reality TV, sure, if
you weren't, like, I like you too.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Like I'm very open to just meeting a good guy.
I don't like, that's it. It's that's it.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Just a good guy, good sense of humor, maybe a
good style too. Yeah, like thing these are no but
like honestly, truly, like I'm not I'm kind of one
of those people that I don't like anyone until I
like someone, and I just haven't gotten that yet.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I haven't had that feeling yet where I'm like, yes.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And I mean I listen on Caller Daddy. You haven't
been in too many relationships neither, so I mean when
I situationships, of course, sure, but relationship relationship no. But
I mean has New York I'm sure being in New York? Like, yeah,
I know you told me you really want to move here,
truly I do. Do you still or do you still

(33:33):
have your heart? Like? Do you still feel that attachment
to Canada too? I feel like that's always home.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, of course of course, but because New York is
so close to home, I feel like it's like become
my second home. I'm like, might as well just come
here as much as I can. I have so many
amazing friends here now that like, I'm so comfortable being here.
But of course, like home is home, like I'm Canadian,
proud Canadian. But of course I would love to be

(33:58):
in New York as much as I can, especially in
this summer, and I have.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
To come to the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh my god, are you kidding me? I would love
to go to the Jersey Shore like we would have
so much. Okay, we'll go, we'll go. We need so much,
I know, I know, Okay, we're doing it.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I mean, but I will take you to obviously, I
you need like an hour in DJs and that's it,
just to experience. That's the one where they all used
to go to, like the oh you're talking y yeah,
I'm talking about that. Every you know what's so crazy
every place that they have gone to, and that was
so infamous on Jersey Shore. It's like shitty, it's closed down, shitty,

(34:35):
closed down, not a thing anymore, Like nobody goes to
these places. Now we have DJs, which I guess you
could is it a club? Has been a thing though
not now we have DJs. I don't know why they
didn't go to DJs. DJs is not like your New
York City club.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I would club. I rarely club.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, so they're all bars.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I love. I love a good die bar like fun
I love it's on the boardwalk.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, Well, the DJs is crazy Italian fist pumping. You're
walking into a black hole. You walk into a black
hole and you leave blacked out. It is a black hole.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
We need one of those days.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Parker House is great. It's classy Parker House and columns,
same owners. So it's on the Blossa. They're not on
the boardwalk, but they're in like really nice areas. Okay,
so it's classy live music.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You go upstairs.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's not live music, but they call it the Basement's
God's basement.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Cool vibes. There got a little bit of all is boardwalk?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
What is it? Jenks Jenkinson's and Jenkinson's is like a variety.
There's like.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
People of all ages, like it doesn't matter. So you go,
I need to.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Show you the waves of the I still haven't seen
and you howie, Like I would you, guys.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Would Ally's probably been there.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's probably been, I mean because she's from Boston, Yes
she is, So I don't been living here?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Has she for a while? Well maybe not a while, but.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I wonder if she has been to the Jersey Shore
because that would be so so fun.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I feel like I've already like envisioned her fist pumping
in the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
No, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's like Halle would already be like ten drinks deep.
We'd show up and she'd be fist pumping like Halley's
a time.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Such a good time.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, yeah, so fun.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I love, but we definitely need to set that up.
That would love to so fun. Yeah. This summer, me
and all my girls are renting a house too, so
it's a full girl's house.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's I want to do. Hampton's too, I want to
do I know I've never been. You know, I just
started like binging summerhouse, like, okay, I need to start,
you need to start, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I love Page Yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Because I know what a real woman that is.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I love that woman.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I don't even know her, and I just started watching
a couple of episodes and she is such.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Real, yes real like and I just know her from
obviously the Bravo world. You know, my mom loves her.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I do.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Amazon lives a lot, so I see her in and
out of the Amazon Live studio. She is literally amazing
and I just love every inch of her personality. I say,
I have it, don't give personality.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
She does it in such the glass like a class
good way.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
But she really doesn't give up. Yeah, she really like
you believe her when she doesn't. I know, I'm not.
I know, I literally watching her. I'm like I would
need her in my friend group, like she's great, and.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Like Summerhouse is a show I would I would, you would,
like I would go on because it's just again, it's
like it's.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I know, I feel like to be Oh yeah, okay.
The only other show that you don't get to keep
your phones on is like Traders.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well damn they even need to stop doing. What do
you think a phone's gonna do?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Leave the phone, I know, or at least give us
a flip phone so we can just call people.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I know.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I think it's more so the fact when you're in
your room and your board, you want something to do.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But what I can't say is I got the best
sleep on The Bachelor, because did you when I hit
my head hit the pillow, I was out.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Because you're not scrolling distracted, you're not distracted. There's no
TVs either, And the purpose of it obviously is because
for you guys.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Not to leak at anything, probably right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah, probably that, And like I mean, you want to
stay focused, yeah, and they want to be able to, like,
you know, get you up in the morning and you're
not like screwing around.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
There was a couple of times where I like pay
because I could probably get in trouble for saying this,
but I don't care because don't keep you away from
my family. I paid a couple of housekeepers to use
their phones whenever we'd be in hotels, and it's so funny.
I would tell the girls and I'm like, did you
guys like try to get a phone?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
When they're like, did you have money?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You just had cash.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
You had cash, Okay, I brought cash in case and
you might be traveling and I just had it. And
luckily so the first hotel room we were in, oh
my god, I paid like fifty dollars once for ten
minutes to use their phone. One time, I like got
in store for like two seconds with my producer. She
would like had to go to the bank next door,
and I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
This is so bad. This is this.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I don't even know if I ever told it, but
I was like, sir, listen, I need your phone.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm on a reality show. I need to call my dad.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
So I did, and every time I would call from
a random number, I would be like Maria, I'm like Dad,
It's like the weirdest thing to think about because it's
like why can't I just call my dad?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Literally?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, But when I did get to potentially get a phone,
I took that risk every time. Sorry, no, sorry, not sorry,
Like I'm sorry, you would probably do the same, like
and it was crazy. I'd be girls talk to your
parents are like No, I'm like, guys, I'm about to
pay this guy for his phone for two minutes, Like
I don't know how you're doing it. But yeah, no,

(39:48):
it's funny. I had to, you're fully, I was about
to go on an eight and hour flight. I'm not
going to talk to my dad before I do it
for you crazy, I had to.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
No, I love that I had to.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm a daddy's girl too, always like, don't leave me
around on attended phone.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yea, even men these days.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I'll take their phone too, But no, I yeah, I
had to do what I had to do.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
No, I love that I would have done the same thing. Yeah,
who has been the craziest person now that has slid
into your DMS? I know you've said, not too many.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Slid in it's crazy. No, I'm not. I still stand
with this.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Like, no one's well, like, obviously there's guys and stuff
that signed to my dance, but no one that I'd.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Be like, now, no, honestly, how about you?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Same?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, right, Like I don't know this. Am I missing the.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
NFL players that slide into girls dms. I'm like, I must.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Not be on their roster? Yeah? Same, I don't know.
I'm I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I I and I would so not think that from
you because you.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Wait, really, because you know, I want people to think.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
That I'm getting I would think that because you came
off like.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, it was all women, which I love.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
It was all girls like being like I love you
telling me their's stories. I'm like, that meant more to
me than, of course, any NFL player trying to sign
to my damn of course, and they feel like anyway,
but it's I know, I don't want I don't need that.
I want a nice stay at home boy. I don't
want him to be making tiktoks. I don't want to
be making reels. I just wanted to like come home

(41:19):
and then like, you know, watch a movie with me.
That's just I just want to get potato just to
be there with me.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, I think I'm like cook just do wholesome too.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I'm an eater.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I'm definitely not a cooker, but I'll eat no cook
I know, what a disgrace to the Italians.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yes, so your moment, say hi, I will.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
She literally loved you when she wat you at the
House of Villains. She was like, wait, she's so cute,
because sometimes she would come in and watch Bachelor with
me and my friends. Yes, but she was like, she's
so cute and so tiny like that.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Everyone thinks that I'm taller than I am.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, that's the one thing I always get there, like
you're so tiny in person.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
It's you and the girls are short that. But at
least we can wear heels on a regular day.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I mean less than I'm totally a heels girls at night.
But I also love my sneakers.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm so com I'm in crocs half the time or
like comfye can maybe not crocs, but like I wear
You should see the shoes I was. I was roaming
around so and it was really bad, and I and
I wore that to a bar too. We were all
like having a day Sunday, fun day, and I was
dressed in track pants. Anyways, but I'm an Adam Sandler

(42:29):
most of the time.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I don't normally dress up. But when I do, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
No, it's fun. But even this, I love this. It's
casual and still super with you. I'm this is me.
I'm casual.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I feel like you're more of like a girly girl.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yes, but I'm in a I'm going to work out
outfit every day.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Oh good, Well least you know you're working out. Good
for you, you're an active queen.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Oh yeah, I'm going to work out outfit or I'll
like you know, honestly, my time to get dressed up
is events.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, I know, that's my excuse all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
That's the only time action. Yeah, it's that or dinner. Yeah,
like it's really it. When else do I like my
Amazon lives I'm dressed like this?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Well that's well, I mean that's casual.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Just casual. Are you doing influencing full time?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Is that? I mean?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I mean I have an agent, okay, and I'm very
selective with what I do, Like, I want to be
honest when I'm like promoting these things, So I'm very
like I'll do some things.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's not like I don't. I want to do more reality.
That's what I'm we're working on.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I just got out of my contract literally a week ago.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I'm from Bachelor.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, I just got out of my contract. I'm a
free woman.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
So now you're free to go on any network. Yeah
so now like Bravo, she is up for.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Grubs please, but yeah no I want That's when I'm like,
so good on somewhere. Well, I literally binged these episodes.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I'm like and not what am they just am I wrong?
But they just added kind of added people.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
She was Canadian. Canadian one of the girls, Lexi would
she's a Canadian?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Okay, foreshadowing maybe Well see, I mean I'm open, I'm
meeting with a lot of people. I have a really
good agency right now. That's like, you know, setting me
up but amazing. Yeah, and I feel like Bravo is
the reality network.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Oh one hundred percent, like you know, yes, yeah, but
that's more or less what I'm like leaning towards. I'm
very just open. But again I think I'm I think
I'm over the fighting other women for a man and
just that challenge. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't want to
do that ever again.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, I mean I think the best way, you know,
people saw your real personality throughout the Bachelor, and now
that you're out of your contract, Bravo. She's up for grabs.
I'm telling you she's a real one and she would
be great on the network.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
But this would be fun for you.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah. I'm very open and like you said, there's going
to be new things coming along. So when people come
up and I feel like, you know, lovey Bravo. They
are undergoing lots of changes right now in general, just
with you know, bandor pump Rules being shut down, there's
always or on pause.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
That I'm pretty sure shut down. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm there's always there's always room for improvement, revamp, adding
new people. And they also love fun and exciting new guests.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Everyone does.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I feel like it's a good thing to it's refreshing.
Yeah right, yeah, we'll see then. I'm putting it in
the air. It's gonna be I love you good good
karma for sure. I'm gonna say names of guys on

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the internet, say if you've hooked.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Up with them or not?

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Okay, I'm like, WHOA, Okay, I honestly haven't. I've been
on a on a celibacy. I think I'm a boring
of I'm fully celibate, so people.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Think i'm dating this person that I'm like, Nope, I
mean that's honestly great. Play the game, Okay, play the game,
but I love that for you. I want to say
that on the podcast. Sorry, I mean, she's just.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Waiting for the one that's right. She's waiting for the
right guy.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Nice guy.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So nice guy maybe slide into the DMS because it's
what she's waiting for.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Would a nice guy slide in a DM. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I feel like it's more of a coffee date. But
they could find could slide into the DM and and
ask you in a polite, respectful way. Yeah, there's a
way of doing it that doesn't sound it doesn't cringe
me out. Yeah, hopefully I'll let you know. I feel
like a lot of things would still cringe, right, but okay, okay,
I'm ready. Carl from Summerhouse never met the man. What

(46:37):
is the speculation? So that's why I'm like, if it's
anyone online, there's no even wait, so how did they
even make this rumor if you've never even met this one? Like,
was so funny because I saw doom.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Someone sent me the Duma post of someone being like
just saw Maria Georgis and Carl on a date in
la at some restaurant, and I literally wrote back to
Juan like I'm I'm in Canada, like right now, I'm
in Canada. Like she's like, oh my god, sorry, like
I'll and I never write back to this stuff. But
I was like, this is just this is annoying because

(47:09):
it was like one thing after another after another, and
I was like, hey, like I'm actually in Canada and
I never met this man.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So they corrected it, but from that post, they just
created a story.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
That's just usually how it goes. I didn't know that
this is probably gonna sound very naive, but I didn't know.
You didn't really need a credible source to create a
story out of nothing. So there, yeah, I was like,
I was like, no, they literally and want corrected it,
but they still ran with the first post, but never
because look for that one thing.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, and it doesn't matter, they'll yeah, they'll take the
we'll just run from it, even if because if the
correcting is too late, yeah, yeah, of course, odds are.
What they should have done is honestly just taken the
article down.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well that's why.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
And then there I put that ship down right away,
like I don't even let it last twenty minutes. I'm
already posting like this is untrue. I don't know this persona.
But the thing is, since watching the show, I feel bad.
I'm like, damn, maybe because I put the meme of
Kiki Palmer being like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Who this man is. Because this is truth, I'm like,
I really didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
See I wonder like if that, like I Carl, I
wonder why he didn't slide in your DM No no no, no, no,
no no no, but that would have been funny. Yeah,
and been like, wow, wish this was true.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'm sure because Jesse messaged me, He's like, damn, I'm like, sorry,
this is like happened.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'm like, I really don't. Yeah, it's just it's weird
how this shit happens.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
But anyways, yes, okay, No, I never hooked up with
him nothing, Okay, Harry Jowsey know him from.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Manuel, never hooked up with him, nothing like that. It
was like friendly because we're in the same environment.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah and fun Yeah, Wes Wilson from.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I smacked him so he had a thing with my
So that's another one that I know from somewher.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
You have so many connections to Summer House like many.
I'm like, I'm like that, but I'm sure I'm wondering
if they recommend, like they should recommend you if they're
ever looking for casting.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I think so yeah, No, that one definitely not.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, just I gave him a little smack he asked
me to do it, and actually smacked him well because
he was like, I was like, he was seeing my friend.
I don't know, like they had like this like funny
back and forth. I don't know if anything went down,
but I was like, if you ever like screw with her,
like I'll smack you, and he' said oky case smacking
smack me. And then I went to go do and

(49:39):
I guess they filmed in to put on TikTok. But no,
he's such a nice guy. I just don't want him
to fuck with any of my friends.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Understandable, but he seems nice. Okay, love that, but never yet.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
So basically I was just talking about some Summerhouse drama
with all of that, and Sierra was with Wes last summer, yes,
and now this summer, Jesse is kind of trying to
slide in and.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
You know, all the girls on the show like are
encouraging this behavior.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, like for Jesse to slide in with Sierra right,
And I'm kind of controversial about it.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
I think I would be too. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
I just recently was with Allie and Jesse was there
as well. We hopped on the podcast, as I said,
don't drink in pod. Yeah, but she was calling him
a homie hopper, and I was like, is this guy
a homie hopper?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I'm like, And then I.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
When I binged a couple of episodes, I've been season nine.
I'm moving backwards.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Because it's hard because all of the stuff that's being
talked about.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
I know, I want to know what's going on. But
then I saw that and I was like, wait a minute,
does Wes know this is going on? Because Jesse doesn't
seem that that kind of guy. He actually seems like
a really good friend, and I know him and West
are really good friends. But I was like, I don't
know how I feel about that. Yeah, And I think
she's I love the guys great, but I love her
and I think she is such a strong independent woman.
Don't go don't go around the Frank. I think she

(50:59):
it's gonna be Usie more wanting her over her wanting him.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
But yes, but it's like you're also catching her maybe
out of vulnerable like leave her alone, out of vulnerable state.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Leave her alone, I know, I know. Yeah, so I
just then I don't know why like Paige and no,
I don't want to say Page, I love Paige. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
But maybe it's because they're like they see that she's
down and and like because I think maybe she really
is a little into Jesse.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, so maybe they're just like then like go for it,
for it.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I know. I feel like the girls are kind of
either go for it, but sometimes it's you know when
you tell your friend to go for it and deep
down you're like, maybe you shouldn't because I feel like
someone needs to be there and saying maybe you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I feel like she's not going to do anything. I
feel like she's going to be like absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I think she's just like being flirty because they've always had, well,
they've always had watched like ten episodes, they've always had
well they seem to like yeah, I know, right, they
seem to look like they have like cute, flirtatious banter.
And I think that's as far as she's gonna let it.
But I also love when like I love doing that that,
I love doing that. I feel like it even with

(52:08):
my boyfriend. I love the flirtatious back and forth banter.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
And when I was single, I feel like flirtatious banter
is so much fun and it's so enjoyable. It's literally careless,
effortless fun that also makes you feel good.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I think that's what That's as far as that will go.
But I know that Jesse was getting some heat and
that's why he was like you Homeie Hopper, and I
was like, I hope not, but yeah, I'm hoping that
that's probably as far as it goes. Okay, love that opinion,
but if she wants to, she can do whatever she
wants on her terms as long as she's happy, of course.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Jeremy Simon from Gen season of The Bachelor, no, no.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Nothing with him, but he's a great friend and I
was lucky enough to meet him after Gen season through Charity.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I just met Charity love her at the iHeartRadio Awards.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
She is so sweet, so nice, she's amazing, She's and
I loved wait and it was so funny because I'm
so oblivious, like I'm so clueless. I'm sitting there getting
my makeup done, and I was like, yeah, wait, like
Bachelor so fun I actually just watched Joey's season. She
was she goes, I was the one who dumbed Joey.
My god that I had no idea, no idea. She's great,

(53:27):
sitting there getting my makeup done with her, she was
dying laughing. I was like, I'm so sorry, I'm so oblivious,
and she was like, yeah, that's where.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Joey came from.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
But yeah, no, thank you Charity for dumping Joey. We
had our season, but yeah, no, Cherry is the best.
But no, I met him through them, and so we
all just like hung out one night. I know people
were a little like taken aback by that, but I
was like, guys, what do you think Paradise is? Yeah,
Paradise is literally exactly that I'm just doing in real life.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
But no, it's home. It's literally homieh hoping. But no,
I think he's great. But no, never okay, Blake Gray.
Oh for a second, oh my god, that's so mean.
I was like, who's that? But no, okay, wait I'm dead. No,
I met him this weekend.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
I love him a second to me a second I
have then he definitely did, I mean she did, definitely
did not hook up.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
No, because for a second I went, wait, that sounds
so familiar, and then I went, oh, of course it
was like the Blake Gray together.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I guess I didn't realize that was his last name.
But he's so sweet. He was a newcomer, never been
to an unwell event, and he was sweet.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Okay, another little fun game. I'm just gonna name guys
that have been honestly pretty hot on the internet and
just known right now and just let me know if
you would have interested in them or not, may date
them or not? All right, Okay, Rob from Love Island.

(54:53):
He's very pretty boy, pretty boy.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
But I think I don't know. I would have to
meet him first. I've never met him yet. Pretty boy.
It looks like he's I think he's beautiful. Do I
what I want. I'm very into snake. I know he's
like and I just he loves snakes and oh he's
like a big like. I'm so confused. I feel like

(55:16):
as a virgo, I should like the forest more. I'm
not an outdoorsy girl.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, no, I mean maybe that would not work out
for him, and I would definitely be like, say he
brought you back to his place, there would definitely be
like a snake a snake thing.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
What are those calls?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Make me hold a snake? Yeah that sounds wrong, but
probably turns out in some weird way.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah, He's like, yeah, I could seem just like playing
with it in his hands while he's talking to me.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
He's like, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I don't know, he seems he seems very sweet though. Yeah,
he's a beautiful boy.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, I'll meet him one day, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah, Okay, he's obviously everywhere right now. But Craig Connover, no,
I want to know.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
You know, he's Page's ex. Oh no, I'm team Page.
I don't know why. I really don't know what happened
between them. Honestly, she is just iconic.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yeah, she basically came into her own and I think
just became so busy, you know, not.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Even like I think she's just she's.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Living her life. Yeah, and it's what she's always wanted
to take. It was a too fast pace for him
in a way.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I don't know, I know, I actually one of the
episodes that I was watching, she was he was like
I didn't think I was going to date such a
dominant woman or something along those lines, and I was like, well,
you can't keep up with her, then goodbye.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
And she's like strong Italian one too.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, for so much. But he seems like a nice
guy though.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
No, but yeah, not bashing you at all, but yeah, no,
really nice guy. I think he kind of just needs
a mellow yeah, kind of it's hard comfortable girl.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think there needs to be
balance in the relationship. You guys both can't be after
the same things. I always feel like you're in competition.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well when you're also both in the television network. Yeah,
it's too much, So.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Greg Grippo, No, he dated another girl in the franchise,
and like, I just feel like staying away from bachelor
boys in general in general, it's just too messy.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
It's like high school, Like I knows, very nice.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Guy though, very nice. Yeah, I'm like, as I want
to be as political as again, very nice guy.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah no, but yeah, Okay, Well let's end on giving
some advice to the girls.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Don't rush into anything, like you know, enjoy your twenties,
have fun, like experience things that you maybe never would
experience it. Do it while you're in your twenties, because
you so much, because as a thirty year old and
you're still figuring it out. So I'm saying it's okay
to speak, but we're stilling it out.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You still look and just your personality, like you look amazing.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I would never think you're thirty and years. You literally
look my age. I love you. I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
I'm always oldest in the room, always wherever I go.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
You don't look at nor act like it.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
And you have a little snary No. See, you're twenty
three and you act like a woman, which is like
a lady what you are? You know what I mean?
But I appreciate that. No, that's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I mean beyond like, don't tell me I look thirty,
think you. No, thirty isn't even what is thirty anymore?
Thirty is the new twenty now, like that's what it is.
So yeah, and it's it's crazy going through your boyfriend's phone.
One two, Yes, absolutely, I just said don't leave an
unattended phone.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, because well why it's just yes and no, I
want to lie no weekend. Well, the thing is, it's like,
I don't ever want to be in a position where
I feel the need to I.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Want to be It's annoying because you don't want to
feel like you're not trusting your partner, right, But if
it's their assurance.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, one hundred percent. If I ever feel like I
need to see it, I need to see it.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, Like, and he shouldn't have a problem with that
because I would be like saying, here you go, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
So I think it's like a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, I don't think. It's like I'm digging for something.
I'm kind of just snooping to look. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I look, we're just changing the words, not digging. It's snooping.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
So it's better.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
But no, I I think.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I mean, if you're if you have that gut feeling,
just do it. It'll make you sleep better at night
knowing you're gonna look at some point. It might not
be that day, you're gonna find a way to look
at it.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Oh yeah, at some point, so just do it. Whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Okay, how long should you wait to sleep with a guy?
What's your number of dates?

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Okay, I actually have something to say about this because
I have always been a huge advocate for like really
getting to know someone before you you open that kind
of worms because you want to feel good about the situation.
Like I like, there is a big difference between having
sex with someone you just met and then like having

(59:56):
sex with someone you really know. It just it's to me,
it makes all the difference and it always just ends
up being a waste of time. Not that I've done it, like,
oh look at me, I'm like one night stand now,
But sure, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Like you kind of do have to live in the
moment a little bit, right when it comes to that say, I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Was going to say, because I had a friend who
would always have sex with a Okay, not always not
the word is right. She had sex with all of
her boyfriends on the first night.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I mean, so I don't think gonna lie I had
sex with Christian on the first side.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So this is what I was gonna say. If the
man that's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Never me to be like, oh my gosh, because I
in my head I'm like, Okay, the third date seems good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I changed my mind. So well, I'll tell you something.
So this is this is where my stance is, and
this is this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Is especially just coming from old school Italians.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Does?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
My thing is this, do whatever feels right in the moment,
because if the man's gonna love you, and if the
man likes you enough, you can fuck him on the
first in the first ten seconds and he's still going
to treat you with respect and love you up because
he likes you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
If it doesn't work out, he just wasn't for you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
So I don't think that if you make a guy
wait doesn't mean you're gonna get him in the end.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
So my thing is do whatever makes don't know, it's
a gamble, it's it'll always be a gamble.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
The worst thing in the world is wasting a month
on a guy, holding it off, making him wait for it.
First of all, if he's not getting it from you,
he's probably gonna get it from someone else on else.
But regardless, my thing is this, if if he likes
you and he respects you, he'll know right away you
don't need to hold it off to try to keep him.
He'll wait the month, has sex with you, and then
dip after regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Like so, I think it takes it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It depends on the man, and it depends on how
the person feels and how you feel about them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So I don't think there ever should be a time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I know a lot of girls like to say like,
I want to wait, I need, I need this certain
amount of dates. I don't know, it's just it's I
think it's in the moment thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I agree how you feel. I do, And if he's
the right guy, then he'll stay no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Do you monitor who your boyfriend fallow was on Instagram?
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It's hard to tell nowadays. It doesn't go in a
weird order. Weird order you I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I know. I think there's crazy things on like
the Internet and stuff where like puts it in order
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
But I mean I think if you're really that crazy,
But yeah, I'm like, I've never done it. It's a
little much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I mean, if you don't, if you have that much
of a distrust in your man, I feel he shouldn't
be with him. Yes, should a woman ever offer to
pay on the first date, not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
The first day? No, I think I would leave, not
the first day.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
But always for the whole bill. And yeah, I mean
I always say I go at the moment. A man
is like if you about the bill, I take it
and go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah, but yeah, so as soon as he's like, if
you about the bill, I'll take it paid all and
then go. But I think it's always polite to like
at least like, like, you know, go through the try
to try. I think it's should give an take two
along the line along, like like a couple of dates later,
maybe just as you know, but the first date should
If the man's asking you on a first date, it

(01:03:10):
should be him planning it, taking care of it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Setting off the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Do you think it's okay for women to make the
first move if they're interested in a guy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Now why not? I feel like it was frowned upon,
But now I'm like, go for it. But like, I
think making the first move, like what talking to them?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Is that saying a conversation?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Men nowadays? I think.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
They don't Normally, I don't know what's going on these ideas.
He approaches a lot more like sheltered and shied they
But sometimes I'm man like, if you like that guy,
he could be your soulmate, and maybe he's just too
shy or too awkward to come up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Maybe maybe you have to start.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
It just go up, just be fearless and if you
start it, maybe he'll take care of the rest. And
like we'll never let you take care or start anything exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I think you too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
If you've seen someone cute, you gotta just go for
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Who cares? Zone over?

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Thank you, just do it so guy, Maria, thank you
so much for coming on Casual Chaos. This was such
a pleasure and you are such an amazing guest and
we want to find love for Maria and Bravo, she's
your next Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
I love it. Thank you so much for having me. Honestly,
you know this was so fun.