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October 7, 2024 • 53 mins

Mack, Bev and David dive back in the world of the Camden family with a rewatch of 7th Heaven, Season 1, Episode 2: "Family Secrets."  Join the trio as they reminisce about making this episode, share personal anecdotes that parallel some moments from the episode and reveal who would always leave their gum somewhere hidden in the Camdens' kitchen set.

 

 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're back. It feels good to be back,
except for you know, the thing that I don't miss
is La traffic.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, it's definitely there. I get so annoyed you No,
I have to drive now, I'm like twenty five minutes,
twenty five miles and twenty five minutes and I'm like,
wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I know, but like in La, if you're going like
five miles, it will take an hour.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I don't know. See why more people don't walk in La.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm giving you, guys a little violin. It was like traffic.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Why doesn't that make people like just start walking places?
Like if you walk from San Santa Clarita to sant
to hear.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
La is the least walkable city and it's not made
for walking. It's made to sit in traffic. So just
to teach you a lesson, okay.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
The lesson of your wasted life, the hours of time
wasted in traffic, I.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Do have to great time to pop on a podcast.
Welcome back, everybody to catching up with the Camdens. I'm
David Gallagher, Beverly.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Mitchell, and I'm McKenzie Rosman.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
That was good. That was honestly, that was great.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The last time I'm doing the intro.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That was great. And by the way, you can find
us on iHeartRadio and where you can find all your
podcasts and make sure you subscribe and listen and push
all the buttons and say yes and likes and leave
all the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
What she said, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Did I just like knock it all out? Like do
we hit everything?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
That was every engagement on the internet. Okay cover.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh I didn't say YouTube, but I said push the
buttons and like all that supscride on down there, all
those buttons. If you hate this, don't push any button whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hate it, do it. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
But I actually just don't say it at all, but.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Leave nice comments because we like to read them because
they are kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I do love. I do love that I do in
the comments. So you guys, I think we're we are
sensitive souls, that is for sure. Yeah, and we've got
our podcast, Mike, so we're like official, like we're really
doing this, like this is no longer a backyard project.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It isn't.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, I mean I think we look more official maybe
I mean or sound because it's a podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
They'll let us know in the comments.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, the hard part for me though, is like, you know, obviously,
because we're all very visual, is you know, the component
of making sure that people can still see us, because.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean it's my preferred I'd rather watch it than
just listen. Yeah, kind of with all the content that
I consume personally, I prefer visual media.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
So I mean I get it, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
But if you're sitting in traffic, it's a perfect time
to listen.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
But if you're sitting in that LA traffic, which yes,
we're here to talk over each other, so you can't
really hear what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I listened to podcasts when I'm lucking stalls. Actually, when
i'm doing like smelling manure filled manual labor. That's when
I turned an audiobook.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
When you're doing your only farms, only.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Farms, yeah, or driving to a farm to go to
more only Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Sure, I think this is going to be a thing.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I'm determined to make it a thing.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Make anything mad Well, speaking of which brand, I don't
really know how to segue from only Farms, But should
we go to episode two, seventh Heaven, which I believe
the title is Family.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Secrets, you know that's the title.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I do actually know that I was just trying to
know she was acting. But thanks for calling me out.
So should we dive in?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Are we?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Are we ready?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We did? We already killed the intro, so yeah, so
we killed it, so I mean I think we're ready
to dive deep.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
So family Secrets. Obviously the title says it all. But
what does it start with? Hold on, I have to
say something. David re watched this episode because we just
did it.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That's right. Yeah, it's amazing what happens when we hang
out and do stuff. Things happen.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
So we rewatched together and we tried not.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
To talk special. It was special, which is why we
should do that.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
We bought it, got it?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Sorry, Jared, our homework, David.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's true. Okay, so let's talk about how it starts
because I already forgot.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Pregnant? Oh yeah, that's right. Do we did? We because
we we watched the pilot.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You didn't, but we did.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
We did, We did, all of us. Did we find
out Happy was pregnant the pilot?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
No? Yes, yes, yes, yes, Happy's pregnant.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, Matt informed you that Happy was pregnant.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
And she goes straight to being a bad dog and
starts eating shoes.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
She had pregnancy craving, Yes, pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
She really craved loafers and drivers.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Only Eric's.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Honestly, I was in the socks when I was pregnant.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But some chic nineties style runners.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, but only Eric's shoes. The only shoes she ever
touched were so maybe his. Yeah, they were only Eric.
I don't know really where to go with that. Or
I didn't have cravings.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I had like a version pregnancy cravings.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Being I'm not pregnant, let's say that, okay, But no,
when I was pregnant, I did not like the smell
of meat with when I was pregnant with Kenzie, I
would want to punch someone if I smelled chicken really like,
I got like angry, like where I would like cush
someone out for having chicken anywhere near me. Like I

(06:06):
was like violent, You're normally violent, you know, don't put
that out there. I am not, Like for the record,
I am a very gentle soul, Like I like, my
bark is much bigger than my bite? Uh? Is that right?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Is how you say that?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's it's said kidding? I agree, I didn't. I was
really excited, like because I was such a food obsessed
person my entire life that I couldn't wait to find
out what eventually the pregnancy cravings would be. And it
was really nothing. I wasn't like, ah, I need ice
cream with pickles on it or anything like that, but

(06:48):
I did. Before I realized I was pregnant. I was
consuming a lot of like mixed greens with Annie's Goddess dressing.
I couldn't get enough of the stuff. I would just
guzzle it. And a sponsor, Yeah, I love god At
dress and the Trader Joe's one is almost as good.
But and then I had an aversion to the smell

(07:09):
of coffee, so that had to be moved down into
the basement. Is it the basement, Yeah, because I could
smell it wafting up from the kitchen. It was just
it's about it.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
So did he have to go down into the basement
to drink his coffee?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
He made it down there, bring it up. He put
so much like sweetener and French vanilla that by the
time it was in a cup and being drunk, it
didn't smell like coffee anymore.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Okay, So when we had Lily, Shauna's cravings, from what
I remember, was mostly Italian food, and Cuban food. So
it was a lot of a lot of Pasta's a
lot of stews.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Cuban Food's very has a lot of stews comfort food.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, well, let's dive back in because this is
an ongoing theme throughout this episode of Happy eating Shoes.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, well it's it is my lemma.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
So each episode, everyone's got a problem they're trying to solve,
and I'm trying to figure out how to break to
mom and dad the fact that both Happy is pregnant
and also eating dad's shoes.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, so that's that's Simon news. That's Simon's secret. Simon's
secret is that And then then we move on to
the grandparents have a secret because Grandma is sick and
they're leaving, not without doing what grandparents do, which is
give they spoil the kids, rotten.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Spoiling the kids.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
We all get Little Lucy gets sassy mags.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, sassy exactly what the doctor ordered?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sassy magazine or something.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, sassy magazine, which seems quite fitting. Yes, perfect, it's perfect.
What did Simon get?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I remember? We just.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was moonros moon rocks?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
What are moon rocks?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I tried to do a deep dive onto moon rocks.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
They were an old toy made from chemicals, and I
could only find the images, but they wouldn't list like
what it was made from or anything like.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
That, because it was made from asbestos.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Made from lead.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, well, all right, so what happens next, Jared, there's
a problem with one phone line? Oh yes, yeah, I
mean it was.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
It was such a nice essential nineties problem. Yes, the
one house phone.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Line is you know.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Privileged enough to live in a house with phones all
over the house that were all connected to the same line.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, because it was one line for that was an
this was an ongoing issue. We were going to address
this for many episodes to come. And also I just
have to say that Lucy's Lucy and Mary's phone was
the phone of the nineties, Which was that clear that
all that like, it was like the like you had
made it.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
It's one of the things that I distinctly remember when
we were watching the episode.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I was like, I remember that phone. I remember it
being on set, Like, yeah, it was an iconic I had.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I personally had that phone at home as well. It
was like the coolest phone. And I just remember, like,
our kids have no idea like the dial tone and
like pushing the like they like.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It was so no idea to hold like I don't
know why if after cell phones came out, we still
had a houseman for a while and we had a
corded one, and I just thought it was a lot
more comfortable to hold to your cheek for a long
period of time.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well in playing with your card, remember like you play
with the cord, Yeah, it tossed it and then like
call waiting because we also the Camdens did not have
call waiting, so that was a big thing. So all
of us, the Camden kids were waiting for that phone
line and well not you guys.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You know how many dates Lucy might have missed out
on because of the lack of fall waiting. Probably that's
a lot, It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, But she was only waiting for that one call
from Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Moon and busy opportunities that Simon.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Simon, he caught every phone call that came in for him,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's true. Okay, So we discover that Ruthie is keeping
the secret.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Of Happies Puppies, Happy's Puppies because she does just my secret.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Actually, no, you know what you had all the secrets.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, it was generally the secret keeper or not keep it,
depending on where your stock lie with me. True.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, but like yous was you knew.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Your secret adjacent to everybody else's secret.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah. True.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It was like it's the game of Friends, the seller
of secrets. I traded secrets.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
You.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh, that's when Matt says he has to go to
the library and borrow the car and dun, dun, dun.
He doesn't come home.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And he's sixteen.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
How dare he? I mean, actually, if my kids were
out all night at sixteen, I would well, that wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, No, I would have been in trouble.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
There's no way. Actually I do. Actually, in my real
life mind, I think my mom. I would go spend
the night at a friend's house and my mom one
time try to put a curfew on me, and I
was like, nah, I'm just gonna go to my friend's
house and they don't have a curfew, and she's like,
that's not the way this works. I'm like, yeah, that's
the way it's gonna work. Now. I was terrible. But
I also at that time, like had a full time job, so.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
So I was like, really, listen, mom.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I know, I think we definitely had to fight over them.
Looking back, I really that fly with my kids, but
you know, my parents.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Were always cool. But also, like, what's funny in.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
The episode is that, like I guess it's about keeping secrets,
and so you know, Matt's keeping the secret for his friend,
and he's keeping his library trips a secret, and all
these secrets that I don't really relate to because I would.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Always just tell my parents what was up.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, Like I would just be like, I want to
go here, I want to hang out with these people.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
This is how long it's going to be. It's probably
gonna go late. You know.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I just tell my parents what I was doing and
they were like, okay, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I don't know. It just it seemed to work for me.
My parents are cool.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Though, Yeah, your parents are cool. Yeah. Well, Matt kept
a secret and he was out and he got in
big trouble because we find out later but not yet
why he's keeping new secret.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
So Simon is being extorted by Matt to do house
chores because of to keep my secret.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, because he gave you sound advice, which.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Was which was to wait until they have good news
to give them bad news, to not put bad news
on top of bad news, which is actually quality advice.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
It is quality from a brother.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It is like when you're.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Dealing with your parents you don't want to, you don't
and he says, they'll take out how mad they are
at me on you, which is exactly right. So so
good advice there.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah. I think that's like check one for good advice
from Matt.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, older brother, solid yeah, solid, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And then Lucy has a crush. This is you know,
this is these are big moments for Lucy. She has
a crush on a guy named Jimmy Moon.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh, Jimmy Moon.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Jimmy Moon.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
When when we did the when we first got together
for the podcast, you guys brought up Jimmy Moon. It
really did like strike like lightning in the back of
my mind, like that.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Just came right up the most very memorable, very memorable.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean, first of all, that's a killer name. It's
a great character.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I just love like the first the scene with Jimmy
Moon's look back at you and at the high.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
School, the classic over the shoulder, and.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Then like the that like little smile, like meekish.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
And I was telling when when we rewatched the episode together.
I was TELLINGV how in my recollection of this time,
I remember Bev and Jess and Jimmy Moon and the
and our guest stars that were all of their friends
being so big and so old and like, and we're

(15:10):
rewatching the episode and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Little babies, Like, everybody's this little baby. It's so cute.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
But it is funny to me, and it's and it's
it's striking to me, just the difference in perception from
obviously when I was, you know, eleven or twelve, to like,
you know, now looking back at it as an adult.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Definitely. I mean I have the same same thing, and
I think you can almost watch yourself with the it's
it's hard. We've kind of usually agreed that it's been
difficult for us to watch ourselves due to like just
mortification things. But I think you can do it with
a bit more grace now that you see, like, oh

(15:48):
I was just a little baby. It's it's a lot
easier to stomach. Yeah, yeah, but it is I think sympathetic.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
But also get it together, younger, right, do better.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
There's definitely some scenes I'm like, oh, well that one hurt,
but you know, they're in those moments, they're sweet.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, your your emotional scene is solid, by the way,
Oh god, I'm only saying it because when we rewatched it,
you were disappointed in yourself and it wasn't fair.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
You did a good job. It was solid.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Thank you. I'm still like a cringe, but.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Plenty of a lot act his opinion. I appreciate. Oh,
I appreciate.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
You don't have to respect my opinion.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I say, you have to take the problement or you're insulting.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, I appreciate it. I accept Thank you. The next
scene is when Matt is in trouble, and it's kind
of that I do actually remember this scene with the
roundabout with with Jesse as we're trying to investigate and
we have all of these thoughts and ideas of like

(16:53):
your guys' brainstorming, brainstorming of like what he did, and it's.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Weirder later in the episode when you do it again.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean I Lucy basketball Yeah wait wait, wait, wait,
one step.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
At a time, like having really.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Funny having Lucy, like have all these like extreme ideas
of like what he could have done, like stay out
all night, kissing the girl all night, like but I
just remember that was always such a fun like those
scenes were so fun just going back and forth with Jess.
I always enjoyed those scenes.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, those scenes are very cute. Yeah they are.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
And when when Matt's getting uh, when he's in trouble
in the kitchen and we're all kind of doing that
quintessential like heads around the corner on the staircase thing.
I do have my one moment in the episode that actually,
well there's two, but the first moment of the episode
for me that made me smile when I saw it
where I said like, oh, if you need anything, just
let me know.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
And then I'm.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like like slowly back my head back around the corner,
and I was like, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I also, do you remember like having to stack to
have the heads like just like like how we had
to creatively like be on top because there was, like
we've said before on the podcast, there is no space
back there and we're literally like on top of each other,
like standing back staircase.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Right, So when you're when you're looking at the kitchen
and the scenes, you see the stairs go up and
they go around the corner and then what is like
there's the under the stairs like closet or whatever that's
next to the stairs. But that door, like if you
opened it, you would just see the platform that goes
around the corner where we all just stand there.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So we'd run around the corner and then stop.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And it was this tiny little like maybe you know
three x three space up there that we would all
squish into and wait for the rest of the scene.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Along with the Catherine's gum space.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, with Cain's gum you could fall off. Yeah, yeah,
I didn't stop.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, there was like a like a drop.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I love blasting up that stairs as fast as I
could and then slamming them.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, I think we definitely did anyone fall off? Yes,
I think we have. Okay, but let's stay focused and
we're gonna move on.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Get back to the episode we could see. Ye.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Annie was the boss man. I mean she could build anything,
fix anything, and she was the keeper of all things,
which I have to say as a mom, I am
the keeper of all things, so like you can ask
me where something is and I know where it is
underneath something around the corner or whatever. So I appreciate
that quality and Annie so much now being a mom.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Organized chaos.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, like and by the way, like, I'm sure I'll
get a call asking for where's some soccer equipment. I'll
be like, it's in the laundry basket that's right next
to the bed, next to the autumn and underneath the
third layer of clothing on the left hand side.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
And do you helm house cleans? Like when you guys
clean your house? Do you do do you do like
family house cleans and stuff? On like a Sunday or
anything like that.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I attempt to get everyone to help clean, usually, especially
with Masil, that is unsuccessful because Maizie's idea of helping
is trying on thirty six princess costumes.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Ophilia loves to sweep. I sweep, sweep sleep and she
hands me a broom sweep and like the vacuum was
clogged because I have two really large hairy dogs like
earlier this week, and so like it takes forty eight
hours for there to be just like fluff all over
the rug. And she's like, she's a brilliant idea, Like

(20:24):
I can't the vacuum it's not working. She's like, we
sweep it. She's sweeping the rug and it worked.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's it's this, by the way, is a parenting like hack.
If you want your kid to help you clean, let
them vacuum. Give them the vacuum. It's the fun job.
Or the broom, yeah, or the mop, like those jobs are.
Lily loves like I like you. She will do the
whole living room.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
She loves throwing, like unfolding laundry. You folded, yeah, and
well kids love that, like I did. Let her like
throw all the dirty clothes like down the stairs, you know,
to go make their way to the launch. She thought
that was great, and then she wanted to throw all
the clean clothes down the stairs.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And that's the problem that.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I want that The reason why I was asking is
because but what I find is that if you're the
one in your house that cleans, you're the one who
knows where everything true.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
So like that's that's what makes you the one who
kind of is the keeper of things. Because in my house,
I'm kind of the keeper of things. But I'm also
like I grew up with my family on Sundays, my
whole family would have to help clean the house, and
we'd all clean on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
So like that was a thing my family grew up.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I grew up doing anyway, is that the schedule of
your current household?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
No, it's my My OCD is too constant for that.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
So I just cleaned as needed all the time and
circling back.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
So in the next scene, we have the nurse hitting
on Eric and she doesn't believe that he's actually a
minister or that he's married, or that he's married because
he's not wearing his ring. And also he hats shoes.
And Jeff likes Mary, we find out.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because she talks about sports.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, she's a sporty chick and he.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Likes that, which Matt has a problem with because Matt
knows that Mary wants to kiss someone.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, Matt doesn't want you to be a victim of Mary.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Kid.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
The thing that doesn't track I remember where they lost
me was when he rejects her ever so nicely. But
then she finds out that he needs help with his shoes,
and she's like, oh, I got you.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
She wants to take it happy likes his shoes.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I know, it's kind of hard the nurse likes his shoes.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well, what was mom?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Because they were his fancy shoes and they weren't stretched
out that okay, that makes sense. I don't know. I
don't know. Maybe she likes his shoes, I don't know. Okay,
what happens next?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Then she shows up to church at the end.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, you're spoiling it.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Ruthy putting Simon on blast about the puppies.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Oh that's the next scene is in the kitchen when
Simon is trying to get you to go outside and
help because Annie noticed that Happy is getting a little round. Well,
I was just gonna say round. And then Ruthie says,
can I help you with the surprise? Isn't that? Oh?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, yes, yes, you almost spilled the beans on me.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I did.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
People have noticed that Ruthine McKenzie have similarities.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Started really soon started episode one.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
After that, Annie answers the phone, and because of that
one line problem the nurse, she ends up catching Matt's
friend calling the house for him, and then convinces her
to come over for dinner so that we can get
to the bottom of what Matt's doing with his friend.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Everyone loves a pot roast.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Everyone loves a pot roast. Back then I still.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Not me And then we have the big surprise and
the big reveal of who Matt's friend is. Renee and
honestly Hm with child, with child, and everyone is shocked.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, she's got Simon has a family secret.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Simon gets right into it and gets down to business
and has a whole lot of questions as Simon, would
you know.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Simon, Simon, I'm just drilling her joy in my food.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Wait, wait, hold on, this is so good, This is
so good. But we got to take a break, Okay,
and we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, you're reminding me of oh god, to see
that Curby Enthusiasm episode where he's going on about the
middle seed at the dinner table. Have you seen that
one anyone?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
But you have seen a bunch of curve now.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
The middle seed at the table, Like it takes a
special person to be able to set the middle of
the dinner table because you have to have this like
spearheading energy, very much, Simon, that conversation, Yeah, to pivot
is that the word he uses, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Pivoting, pivot. Let's pivot right back into this episode. So
hey guys, we're back, and we were just talking about
the big reveal with when we realized why Matt was
out late at night because he was over at his
friend Renee's house and he fell asleep, and Renee.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is doesn't look good for Matt.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, I wasn't. Renee is pregnant, yes, and she is young,
and Simon uh is the only who is not shy
about this whole experienced Simon has so many questions.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yes, I'm perfectly fine with with drilling into Matt's dilemma
while while still spurting mine.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I would say that you were just very inquisitive. You
just wanted to understand, like how many children did she
want to have, and like what what her life would
look like.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I guess it is. It is. It is an innocent.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Interest, and I think that really shows later in the
later scene that I have with with Matt, more so
than I think in the in the dinner scene, it
could come across that I'm that I'm just digging his
grave for him.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I mean, that's what siblings do, is what from what
I understand.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
But then later on in the episode we have to
talk about it, and you see that it's more innocent.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Right. So the next scene is where Lucy and Mary
have the basketballs and we're trying to.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
And you're doing that thing that they do to guys
where they put him in the pregnancy suit so they
could see to see understanding.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
But you know what I found interesting about that this
scene is one it was very clear how clueless Lucy
was on understanding what you need to do in order
to get pregnant, which is also coming off of her
wanting to have her period. And yet Simon is smarter
and understands joke better than Lucy. It is quite funny. Yeah,

(27:36):
I mean, Simon is with it, he understands, and Lucy
is absolutely clueless. And that's when Mary says, that's not
how it happens, and it just goes right above her head.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
With great knowledge comes great responsibility.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And Lucy has and Lucy has none of it. But
I do, I actually remember that scene. I have a
polaroid picture of it, Like, I remember all of that,
and I remember just uh I think actually we were
trying to do the belly bounce and I think, uh,
Jesse knocked me down. I do remember that with the basketballs. Yeah,
because well, of course, because we were trying to yeah,

(28:12):
we you know, yeah, it was yeah, I was quite small,
I was quite little. What happens after that scene?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Some girls do it all the time and nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Right, that's what.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
She only did it once?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, right, just a classic line on a nineties show.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I like, if it's just girls doing like girls do
it all the time.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I mean, it's not like she got pregnant on her own.
There was another participant in this situation. I mean, I
think that's what they believe. But it was just but
this was a reoccurring theme. We we took in a
lot of mother's, lots of them. This was just was
just the beginning. Yeah, she was just Yes, she was

(29:01):
just a star. Is the next scene?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Fathers though a show later on, I.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Feel like sixteen pregnant or seventeen pregnant.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I mean maybe we kicked off a whole bunch of
MTV shows.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, we invented teenage pregnancy for sure. Kissing.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Oh, Mary gets mad at Matt because he says something
to Jeff as older brothers do. And Matt told Jeff
that Mary wants to like kiss him, and he breaks
off the date. And Mary is mad. Why would he
break off the date because he's like ill other older

(29:43):
brothers are.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
But Jeff breaks off the date because Matt.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, because Matt made him.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I think, Oh, I don't think we know what happens.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I think I'm just assuming it's heavily implied. I like
that heavily implied.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
What what turd?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
And then we learn about renees aspirations. One she wanted
to be like an astronaut, a singer, a lot of things.
She did not see her life going in this direction.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Fast forward to twenty twenty four, and you can be
an astronaut and a mother.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
And a singer and a singer. Yeah, you can be
lots of things. You can be anything. I mean you
could have been back then. We just I think pregnancy
would make it a little difficult.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well, I mean, zero ges might be kind of nice
when you're I would have liked a little bit less gravity.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
One that's probably not all and folves maybe it'll slightly more.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
To be an astronaut, just like I mean, I think
there's lots. But stripling back to her episode of seven seven.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
So after this, Eric approaches the home of Renee's parents
and the door is answered by a very grumpy police
officer who is her father, and he says, very strangely,
I'm a friend of your daughter's and he gets the door.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, I don't have a daughter.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, which is dark and then and then he goes
for the second knock, and then it happens again, second slam,
and he goes for the third knock, because that's the
rule of three. It's an important classic rule in cinema.
And then he what the The last thing the cop.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Says is oh, he because he says, I'm a minister,
and he says something about the daughter again, and then
he says something about uh or he says I have daughters.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, and he's like, are any of them pregnant? And
then you hear the audience.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Go oh, and then he slams the door again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
It was like, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
It's a it's an interesting, weird little vignette.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, now looking back at.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
It, yes, very much, so, nexcept Simon gets the shoes up.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Oh. When Simon finally comes clean to Annie.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Yeah, So this is the scene where I'm i'm on
I spend the scene and this is the second time
in the episode where I enjoy my my work here,
and so i'm I spend half the scene under the
bed and I only pop out to say lines, which
is very cute, and then I forget which line it is,
but one of the lines, I pop out upside down,
which is which is some weird thing that I would

(32:25):
push to do.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
You know, that's just like it's a good creative choice.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
As it's a stereotypical kind of like weird thing, a
curveball I would throw at them. So so and I
enjoy that. I thought it was cute and creative. But
I'm giving over the shoes that I've been hiding under
my bed and you're sass and me in the scene
as well, and uh, I don't know, it's a cute
little scene if.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You wanted to have an adult conversation and Lucy and
Ruthy just says okay and does not move.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, that's right, you don't zero give me space.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
But for me, the MVP of the episode is Catherine,
and I want to put that out there on the pod.
We're watching the episode, and all of Catherine's scenes are like,
Catherine is so solid and natural and like and likable
and relatable and all of those things, and just in
every moment in this episode.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Just a breath of fresh air. She's just like so
there is no acting involved, like she's.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Just no just yes, so so natural and relatable and
sweet and you know, It puts a smile on my
face to see to see the work her work in this,
whereas some of the other stuff, like the scene with
Stephen and the cop at the door, is more that
they're these little A lot of the scenes sometimes will
become these little vignettes and that. But Catherine's work feels

(33:46):
very continuous and natural and it has a better like
flow to it.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
So I think she's the MVP of this episode for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I like calling out MVPs each episode. That's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Can't we tell its my turn? If I ever get one.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
For we have a check birthday.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, and it's so much it's not going to be
your birthday by the time this is.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Out, but what day we made this? So there you
go for those that look.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I think that this was also very sweet episode when
we learned more about Annie and she talks about how
she loves English lit, which also is Catherine as well.
I think that is like, actually.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I think Catherine was an English major.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
She was.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
And we learned that Matt is studious. If he gets
a great grade on this paper, he doesn't have to
take a test, I think, or something.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Which I don't remember ever there ever being a path
of getting out of midterm.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
So it seems like a strange thing. But I don't
know anything.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I don't know, I never did.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
But Matt's in high school still though, yeah midterms there.
Didn't really go to a normal high school and it's
been a.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Little less so.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Then Matt finds out about Grandma. He finds out about
the big secret in the episode, which is that Grandma
is dying of a cancer and he for being the oldest,
I don't think he handles it very well. Not that
there's a great way to handle news like that, but
he gets very upset and kind of belligerent about it

(35:32):
and kind of puts his heart on his sleeve.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
A little bit, and mostly towards Eric, because I feel
like he's much more compassionate towards Annie, obviously because she's
the one who told him.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Yeah, but he handles it aggressively.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
With very aggressive towards Eric. And there's very much anger, resentment, Yeah,
a lot, a lot of emotions.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
It's probably mean it's his first death that he's having
to process, I think too, and the like with the
first death that you process, the lack of control over
it over the situation, you know, could make some people
probably feel totally that way.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yes, it is, like you know, in all of the lightness,
there is definitely the heavier frustration. Yes, actually watching this,
when Lucy sees Jimmy moon Is.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
He's like, I thought you liked me, and then you're
like you don't speak quickly enough, and then he's like, oh,
I didn't really like you anyways, so mad Why, well,
you're both insecure and right, yeah, you're both like bumbling
little preteens. And the crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Thing about rewatching preteen impression, I didn't realize that my
two best friends were in the episode, so rewatching it,
it was kind of like a pleasant surprise to see
my two real life best friends as extras, and one
of which has sadly passed away. So that was actually
kind of like it was fun to see her face again.

(37:03):
And so it was like really like a cool, like
unexpected completely like I was like, but by the way,
like how do I get my friends on the second episode?
Like I mean I really worked my friends into the show,
Like I I friends in there because you know what, hey,
if I get a job, I bring my friends along

(37:24):
and she's.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Still doing its.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Content, you know, then so next up is another great
little scene with Me and Barry, where Simon has this
great idea that he thinks is his original.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
He's come up with the plan.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
It's no one else has thought of it, but he
should just marry Renee. And of course he thinks this
because he is assuming he is still under the assumption
that the baby is Matt's and or at least I
think that's that's I think I think.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
She has good table Matters comes.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Up with other reasons why and if he if Matt
would marry her, then then she and the baby will
be fine apparently, but Matt wants to be in love,
which is I guess reasonable, and.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Uh, it's nice sentiments, yeah, and has.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
To and yeah, Simon is of course looking at this
like a business transaction. This will be perfect, everybody wins, uh,
and so you should just do that. And it shows,
like I was saying earlier, it shows that the that
even though Simon is kind of with it and sharp,
that there's still that underlying innocence to his character.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
And and it's cute.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Well, especially when Matt says, well, you know, you need
to be like stable and reliable, and then Simon quickly
has that response. Definitely he can't marry yeah not you.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
And then we have our cute little pillow fight, which
is which makes it to the credits.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Annie's the one to talk to because Annie is the
one that, like Eric, is upset because he doesn't understand
why nobody wants to talk to him, and but Annie
is much better at talking.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
She's solving the problems in this episode.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Eric can't seem to solve problems, no matter how much,
no matter how badly he wants to get a win.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
This episode, right, and then and then next up we
go to Mary and Lucy's room and Lucy has she's
trying to cry into her sassy magazine.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
And it's great, A wonderful job, thank you. What's up next?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
This is the this is my other credits moment where
I where I do the lemonade stand.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
No, this is before when you're coming up and you
say I have a big idea.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, that's where I do it, right, Like I have
an idea. It's the lemonade I do this.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh that's in the credit.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
It goes into the credits. Yeah, it's one of my
little caption moments.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I also love the like when you know when did
you pay your mother back for the ingredients of the lemonade?
And you're like, where was I mom?

Speaker 4 (40:23):
He knows, never, he knows lemonade stand is a is
a tired old idea.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He's clutching straws.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
But you have a great But I then have.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
The reverse good idea. I'm saying, oh, I'll just give
lemonade away.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
What a great idea.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Because it's community and everyone goes, ah.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
That's cute. He doesn't get it.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
But then I do give the lemonade away at church
and it's a big hit, and actually I raise money
for Dad's shoes. So Simon ends up with his bad
take from doing community service, actually ends up getting his
way and winning.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Anyway, yeahs, the whole this is like a repetitive which
is like a through line. But before at the church,
we see Annie reading a book to Ruthie. Yes there
is Annie's reading a Christmas book to Ruthie. Yea, which
is the only mention of any Yeah, in the whole episode,

(41:21):
we would have no idea that it was near Christmas. Maybe,
but my child actually asks for the Santa book like
in June, so maybe I'm just indulging her.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
It could because I will have to say, having kids,
I definitely have to listen to and read.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I read an Easter book last week.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I think I read a Halloween book the Bunny. Yeah,
it's not Halloween yet.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
My kids in October Baby and she was wearing her
like jack o lantern dress like the other day.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's always Halloween.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
That is true, So you know, maybe that was it,
but maybe.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Maybe maybe it's one in the episode.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Air two Christmas episodes.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But that only episode two, so it would have aired
in August or September. So then I don't know, is
that it might be something it might not be. Let's
move on.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Did it snow at the Camden House? Do you ever
do snow? Snow da stuff? Now? Right?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Never?

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Okay, I do remember fake snow being on set at
one point, but I think it was for the Christmas.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
It was a party.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
What happened and the show is making that money. We
got the fake snow out.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Oh this is when the This is when the doorbell
rings and everyone rushes to the door because we don't
know who it is. Mary thinks it's going to be
Jeff and it is Jimmy Moon and I if you
watch this episode back you can watch Barry's elbow totally

(42:50):
smack me in the face, and I think I'm trying
to keep it in because I just got like smashed
in the nose.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Set like we can't actually see you in that first shot.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
As I got smacked in the face by Mary's elbow,
and then it's like that cute like it was always that,
you know with the music of like the look and
the look reacts.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Lucy reacts, Oh, Lucy reacts.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Jimmy Moon react, everyone reacts.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
That's what it would say in the script, right, And
then anytime the script said so and so reacts, they
had to get that shot. Yeah, yeah, you know that
that quiet but knowing with the.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Music and it was like, yeah, it was just but
it's that that smile. And now obviously Lucy is very
happy after having seen Jimmy Moon because he comes over.
We're all happy, but we don't understand what has happened
other than he just shows up. And somehow also in
this Mary has Jeff downstairs too. They're on a date

(43:49):
and Lucy comes out of the bathroom and runs into
Eric and they have a little moment where Lucy's clearly
lying because she's taking her big sister's advice of saying
that he just needed a homework assignment, and she plays
with her hair, and it becomes very clear that both
Eric and Lucy are bad liars and they share that
same quality, and Eric finally just admits that he's going

(44:11):
downstairs to check on Mary to.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
See what she's up to.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
None of us, none of us are great liars in
the episode, by the way, all of us are kind
of like, oh, you know, I'm just gonna go upstairs
real quick.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Like all of us are liars in this episode.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Pretty late curfew, so I think they tell us that
Mary's curfew is eleven or something like that. And Eric
was going downstairs too because it was a few minutes
before her curfew. So he goes to let Happy out
and then he opens the door.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Right and then her discovers.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
She's actually already homes for a curfew.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, and which, by the way, also, why would you
make out at the front door? I think there's I mean,
to be honest, as we dive into this rewatch, We're
gonna have a lot of makeout sessions at that front door.
I just feel like there were other better options, but
we are what we are.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
It was your first boyfriend? She yeah, I mean I
guess it's the first time and I sure had.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
She dove into that kiss. I mean they had a
great makeout session.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
They were, yeah, observation or like.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I don't know, no, just no, she's just watching the episode,
just watching the episode.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I don't know where where it loses me is when
closes the door and they and then and then they
loop in that line where she's like, where were we
when they go back to making out, which is not
what you do when your dad catches you.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Also, would Eric just shut the door?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I don't know, it seems weird. The whole moment is weird.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's a little awkward. I'm not looking forward
to any of that. So that's not happening.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Just f y.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
I it's going to be a few seasons for me,
so it's you know, I'm safe for a while.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
So next is the next day the big church scene,
and then the nurse shows up. But also I'd like
to start the New Nineties Fashion Award.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Oh two nominees for the nineties.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Wait, so we're gonna this is gonna be a thing.
So as we dive into this rewatch, we're gonna have
a nineties fashion award, And who wait, who's the judge? Jared?
Are you the judge?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (46:25):
We're the judge.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
You're the two picks that I have.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Okay, Renee's boyfriend for his sunny best church attire where
the jeans ride two inches up past the belt line
with his.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Or mats church suit with the shoulder pads that are
bigger than most linebackers.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Wow, So our options between uh Matt or Renee's baby
Daddy's baby Daddy.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
I mean my favor for for a nineties award, I
favor the the heavy shoulder pads, like the suit jackets
with the big shoulder pads, just because that's such a
vibe for me. Like I remember all of my suit
jackets having the big, heavy shoulder pads back then, So
I mean that's relatable to me.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I mean I also just have to go for Barry
just because also with the long hair and with the
big shoulder pads and.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
The Barry Barry was a vibe.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
He still is a vine.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
He owned it, but he's a different vibe.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
He's not anymore, but back then he was a nineties
vibe for sure, with his like with his long hair,
and you know, and the in our wardrobe, which was
very satisfyingly kind of iconic nineties stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yes, yeah, oh yeah. Why does the nurse show up
at the church? And also why is she in our row?

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I don't know she's she's a row.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
But the gag, I mean, it's all just it's just
for the gag, right, But like she was hitting on
the pastor who said he was married and has a family.
But then she still takes the shoes and then she
goes to church like with the shoes out, like she
holds him out the whole to be like it came across.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
As though she didn't believe he was a pastor or
that he was married, or that he was married. And
then she's, oh, I found your wife, and let's sit
in the same role.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
On the church put upon confirmation, she's still down.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I do have to say Catherine's reaction.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Class m VP reaction is perfect.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
And then of course Simon comes in with a pot
full of money.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
That's right, because I my my bad take on the
on the free lemonade actually was a success. And that's
and and that's a through line for Simon's business ventures
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
And now the congregation thinks that Eric is a pauper, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
And then and then we move on and in the sermon,
Matt kind of runs into Renee's dad, who has previously
said he doesn't have a daughter and has had a
change of thought. And Renee's baby daddy also shows up,
who also has a change of because everyone is easily
swayed to do the right thing, which comes to church.

(49:20):
And and then Renee gets up and has the voice
of an angel.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I don't understand what the significance is.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Its the terrible trend of musical numbers.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
We have renees like Eric goes and to the brother
of Renee's baby daddy first, but.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
He doesn't, she doesn't. He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
But it's not him. Are we just using him to
be like we're assuming this tough guy, a wife beater,
you know, is not the involvement. But and truthfully, like
the guy with the dorky jeans and the belt, you know,
is also the one that didn't really want to be involved.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
It was just to play on your nights.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Is the statement that like doesn't matter how they people
someone dresses, that doesn't really affect their accountability. And what's
the statement.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I don't know. It's a bait and switch.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
It's like a cheap bait and switch, Like you're like, oh,
this biker is definitely a yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
But then it's brother who also didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
I think he was that dorky.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Didn't walk in with his motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's he wasn't cool automatic guy.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
He wasn't the biker guy you know, stereotyped they were
trying to push.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Well. Also, yeah, it was like that bad he got
the girl pregnant. It was like a normal kid who
they did it once?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Wrong, yeah or apparently right?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Okay, Chris is not getting weird.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I only did it once.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
That line, Oh my gosh. Some some girls do it
all the time and renate did it once?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
How is that fair?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah? You guys did you guys.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Have probably too traumatic block them out.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I don't know if I'll out myself on the internet.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Like, well, like you said, you were always really honest, and.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I mean I kind of meant it, man, Like I's
with with my folks.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Like I I.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Learned early on, man, it was just best to come clean.
So I was pretty straight up with my parents about everything.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Really, Yeah, I wasn't a big secret keeper.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I don't think I was.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I'm also too big of a I have too big
of a mouth. I was just like, spilled the beans
too quickly.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, I'm just like there's no way opposite.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Probably my dad. My dad used to have this line.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
My dad used to say, if we're ever in trouble
or whatever, to all of me and all my brothers
and sisters.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
He would always be like, if you lie to me,
I can't help you. That was his line.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
It's a good one.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
It's a solid but it's it's a cop show kind
of line, but in the context of of like family
like it, it's works.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
It's solid.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Is solo use that one? Okay? Well on that note
and some solid parenting advice. I think that's a wrap
on episode two. We did it, guys, we watched. We've
watched two episodes and we watch and David watched one,
David watched one, and we watch it. So thank you
for joining us on catching up with the Camdens. Stay

(52:35):
tuned for next week's episode where we rewatch episode three.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I'm not sure what that one is, and do us
a favor if you're watching wherever you're watching or listening,
Hit all the buttons and do all the things that
means you know, you know where you're watching or listening.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Do all this, Yeah, push all the help us out.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, the hearts, the thumbs up, the subscribe, the follow, whatever,
all of them.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
What they said, M
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