October 30, 2024 • 56 mins
Tomato, Garlic, Basil, Simmer. This week we read beloved actor-turned-food journalist Stanley Tucci’s new book "What I Ate in One Year: (and related thoughts)." Join us at the market as we select the perfect ingredients to pair with this delicious diary—including his possibly open marriage to Emily Blunt's sister, dining with King Charles, bad Italian food in Italy, discovering tequila with Blake Lively, under-seared scallops, parenting toddlers at 60, shopping for a group vacation, loving hotels, and how to make the perfect meal with only onions. Mangia!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.
You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books
and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books,
it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir, it's martinis. Celebrity poof Club,
Read it while it's hot. Celebrity poof Club, Tell your secrets.
(00:24):
We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are a loud
celebrity book say it loud and cloud Celebrity book Club.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Buzz me in. I brought the queer vow.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Heyst, where are you?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Literally? Where am I ware? What? Who? You come to yourself?
I travel so.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Much travel and at our age, sometimes our heads can
be elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Luckily, my knees stn't work?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh do they? Because you are your fucking all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This, Oh, how dare you? You're the cocksucker?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And how great reviews? Beautiful reviews?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And you know what if I did even suck dick,
amazing reviews may be like wonderful, wonderful, wonder wonderful. Listen,
No enough of the bathroom humor.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Seriously, let's get serious because we have an extremely elegant
topic today.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I know it's actually I'm like, oh, we started off
so rawling elegance and we're talking about butter today. Oh
and we're talking about oh, I don't know, crisp white
wine from the Piedmont region.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, or even can I say it's hilarious, so wrong
to have I don't know the crispus have ever happened.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't know what about. I don't know what insanely
crisp peanut grease at lunch at one pm with your
older son.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Who made me a beautiful Welsh rampit because he's really
coming into his own as a chef, were talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We're talking about none other than the hottest man to
all moms in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is so true, mom bait.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Literally, mom bait, we were talking about one of the
yummiest Italian Americans in history.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
One of the original metrosexuals.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Literally, No, he's like the last, the original and the last.
And we're going to get into that, someone who is
famous for acting but is now known for.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Food and his guns. Ladies, because he do be working
out quite often, often with his yoga.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Instruct Okay, shake, shake, shake your groove thing, that's a
negroni I'm talking about. We are talking about none other than.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Stanley touch and his brand new book What I Ate
In One.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Year and related thoughts. H This whole book is so
like yummy, and it's like jazz. It's like soft jazz,
rainy London afternoon with a good glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
This book is full up jazz. And it was so
perfect that I was reading on the plane from Nantucket
to La Guardia, having just had a week of being
like mm so like rich, but also like cozy and
gloomy because it was like shoulder season late September Nantucket.
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I was there. Yeah, I'll spill the beans.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Saw your personal life on this personal trip, but it
was personal yet for your wife's business, yes, which is
so Stanley. So he's always being so like well off
to the Dingly Literary Festival with Felicity. God, she has
so many launches. Okay, So you were having like a gluey.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And as we do this, I'm gonna make us a
very Stanley Tucci beverage by just what they had on
the iHeart fridge, because sometimes you just have to go with.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's available, just what's available.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Some kind of improvised spaghettes, which is a little stella
with a splash.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Of apaol, which you a true spaghett is Miller high
life an apaol.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, but he do want one, You're going to try it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We love to peer pressure on this pod, and I
think Estella will work because you know, I think the
whole point of like the spaghetti is this high low,
like really watery beer, and Estella is you know, like
the most plain airport lounge delta beer.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So it's like it's a pale European lagger.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And Stanley Tucci is having to do a collab in
like skinny for it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No one is more airport lounge than too cheap. What
I've realized reading this book is that he really is
so comfortable in like a pretty new hotel. Yeah, where
they have like the backlit bar and the high top
like blonde wood tables.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Blondewood tables but like deep orange hues.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, or she was on like deep steel window like fenestration.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh wait, while you make these, I'm just gonna read
this passage just to kind of put us in place
with this book of him checking into a hotel. Here's
your set, Okay, thank you, darling, Cheers beautiful after Annenna's
arrived from JFK to Manhattan. We checked into the Whitby Hotel,
which is part of the Firmdale Group. I love staying
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in their hotels because there's a consistency of eccentric, cozy design.
They are spotlessly clean and beautifully appointed, and the staff
is kind. I first stayed and won the Covenant Garden
Hotel in London over twenty years ago with Kate while
promoting Big Night. We had the loveliest time together at
that trip, and it was the first time I'd ever
seen an Honesty bar, which is a stable in all
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Firmdale hotels. Another property of theirs, the Charlotte Street Hotel,
is where I stayed while filming Captain American, where Flissy
and I first spent time together.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
As they say, this is so crazy because when the
Firmdale Hotel group first comes up, like earlier in the book,
when you stayed at the Crosby Hotel, which is a
Firmdale property and so and he just goes more on
that later, and I'm like, more on the Firmdale Group later.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was like, girl, what more on that later?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And lo and behold, there was much more to say
about their incredible properties.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Because a lot of times when like a book will
be so like and we'll get to that later in
the Luanaway, they don't get to it. But he was
so being like, no, I must finish my thoughts on
the firmiler.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
He's a hospitality pilled mama.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So I guess this book is also even though it's
all about like cod and butter, it is also like
a meditation on aging, his wife, dying, his new wife,
his own mortality with his new wife, Emily Blunt's sister,
Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Such a funny name, Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Hello, I'm fit and she is a literary agent.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's just the most literary agent thing that could possibly be.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's such a movie, like a British John spin off,
being like, oh meet my agent, Felicity Blunt. She'll be
taking you to dinner.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, So let me ask you something before we even
get into all the journal entries. And this really quite
lovely book, lovely book. So his wife died of cancer, Kate,
his wife of fifteen years, has two kids with her.
She dies in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And you know the whole backstory also with their marriage,
which was he did a play with Edie Falco. They
had an affair, he left his wife Kate.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And just you know, Stanley, if you're listening, this is
a literary criticism pot and we will be talking about
the chart. There's just a little bit of Delbert, but
of course we're mostly talking about food and literature.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, Felicity Blunt, Yeah, the way he left his wife
for her and then his wife had cancer and he
got back with his wife and left Edie Falco and
Edi fa never married.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh yeah, he got out of cancer guilt.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know I who's out of cancer guilt. I
think he was like, let me get back with my wife.
But some mother my children.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yes, And sometimes an illness can throw your priorities into
stark relief.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I don't know the exact timeline. It could have
been like he needed some relief. And you know, of
course you've done many plays. When you do play and
you're with the cast, emotions.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Playing chemistry, and that can supersede reality.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Right, we almost get into these romances. Forty five minutes
at the iHeart Offices.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh my god. Also just the redness of the iHeart Studio,
the roomb if you will, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Saw this quote from felt being like, oh, I'm thrilled
he's back with his wife. I'm sure anyway, I read
his wife did pass sadly, passes.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Very sadly in two thousand and nine. In two thousand
and ten, he attends the wedding of John Krasinski and
Emily Blunt and whoms does he meet at the wedding
Felicity Bluntity And of course.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He had just done the devil rest pradact with Emily,
which is they were becoming quite close.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And then one you later he's married to Felicity.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I think to one year later he they hook up
at a firm deal group property and at the Charlotte
Street Hotel. Sorry, okay, they make and then the next
year they're married. I mean, when I read that timeline,
I'm like, okay, wife, If illco back with wife, wife dies.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, he's a talent, it's also passionate.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Also, it's classic man they need women, Yes, they need woman. Also,
I think I don't think it's too soon. No, my
first reaction was absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I said, if I died and my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Married within two years, right.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Lived would be absolutely corpse.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You'd be rolling in your firm deal group grave. I
think it's also I mean he had two kids and
was like, I think that just is very classic male.
They're like, okay, I'm a single father.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I need to like But also like Tucci is the
most eligible man alive, and so just like when he
became an Eli bachelor, it's like, so he's a gorgeous
man who takes care of his body, wildly successful, elegant,
can cook, loves travel, knows about wine, cares a little
breast literature.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's like, he's not gonna stay single. But I also
don't see and to your point of all those things,
I think he is someone that wants like more of
a long term companion. I don't think after the wife
he was probably like, Okay, I'm gonna like fuck around.
He's like, I'm just gonna move on fast and get
a younger wife and younger. She is younger, she is
she's younger than Emily. Yeah, she's twenty one years his junior.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And there is a place, there's funny part where he's
just like, and of course my child. And then comes
the questions, why are you so much older than mommy?
But why is mommy still taller than you?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
The bar was so funny. He was like, this is
what's happening during bedtime, which.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Makes them a huge fem tiny butch couple. Yes, but
this makes sense because I heard from someone recently that
I saw in real life. Oh yeah, he said they
had seen Stanley Tucci recently in real life, and of
course the Union Square Farmer's market.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Of course, and he was like just picking up what's fresh,
and he's like, I'm so into aliums lately.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And they said he was short af I mean Italian
guys are short, and he was wearing like when do
you remember? He was wearing an open cartigan kind of
maybe a khaki pant or a dress pant, a rown
kind of like leathery sneakery kind of dress shoes like
Dad Dad, but.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like it's all Rothman's like he was probably like really
nice leather.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It was definitely nice, like Milanese, like four hundred and
fifty dollars, like sneaker dress shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
In this book, He's like, well, you know, I like
clothes as much as I like food.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I certainly does. Yeah, I don't think everyone needs to
wear a three piece suit every day, but my goodness,
he was like.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
My goodness a T shirt to a premiere and he's like,
this is why I love wool and this is why
I love Autumn.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
This book is very transparent about the job of celebrity
because it's just like he's like, I'm a sanm Pella
greena ambassador, I'm a Tanker Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And also it's like Tanker Ray number three, Like he
really gets specific.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He's like, well take Gray number ten. There's no number three.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'll leave.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You can see yourself out.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
This is like when I heard it, Gay was like,
I'm surprised how much Lily doesn't know. On the podcast,
this is when he's referring to go on.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
For the Palace event, I had chosen to wear a
cream colored linen, double breasted and muted plaid suit, a
white shirt of brown tie, brown socks, and brown shoes.
I love clothing as much as I love food, and
I always like to dress not only well but appropriately
for whatever the occasion might be. I loathe the fact
that our world has become so casual, so many people
were the same thing for a night on in the
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town or to the theater that they were around the house,
which is most often a T shirt and jeans, or
even just sweatpants. When I did some cocktail videos during
lockdown for my Instagram, one person commented very excitedly that
I was wearing pants and a belt, although to be fair,
that was all people talked about in lockdowns and pants
with pants and hard pants, hard pants and soft pants.
(13:07):
Let's face it, adults today dressed like children. Shots fired.
I'm not suggesting that one down a three piece suit
every day, but anything other than short sneakers and T
shirts plastered with oversized logos or catchphrases like I used
to drink but that was hours ago, or shit I
don't have time for, followed by a list of that
quote shit would be a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Him quoting my sassy Walmartees, I was obsessed. Im go off.
I mean say more, say it more for the people
in the back, and you don't. And that's the thing.
You don't have to be a coastally. It's just like
we think, now, oh, everyone else's casual, so then you
don't dress up, and then it's just casual. Casual casual.
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I mean, go to the theater and people aren't.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You go to the theater and people are in sweet
sure vests, disgusting, horrendous. You and I are going to
a film premiere after this, and we're and stun beautiful
slacks kids, ripe slacks and dress shoes and button down
shirts and silver brais.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Silver bracelets, and we didn't plan these outfits to be
max exactly. The thing. What I was so inspired by
reading this book is I kept on like reading, and
then I would get up and go to my fridge
and just make kind of random ship because I feel
like that's what like random shit, because I was like,
this theme is about how he's always like, oh, like
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my kids are so picking. He's trying to like push
more things on them, but they're also kind of like
still more advanced than like most I would say, like
American children, Like one of them, who's four, is always
asking for like butter noodles.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But the other one is like then graduates to wanting apasta,
wanting to an apasta, which I would have never had
as like an eight year old or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now and they're having like pesto at four, which I
feel like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I arrived home in time to see the kids before school.
They did pot moments afterwards into the Caravra nanny who's
barely mentioned.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, then nanny. But then you're like, obviously they have
so much nann eating because like Ham and Felicity are
always going out.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But we'll get to the parenting in a second. Who,
along with Felicity more than picked up the slack while
I was away. I scrambled some eggs, pried up some
Cotto cook slice Italian Ham, slapped it all between two
pieces of lightly toasted white bread from the nineteen fifties
our bakery around the corner, wolfed it down, then collapse
into bed for longer than I'm disapated. Obviously, the sleeping
pill decided that it had not completely fulfilled its mission.
In the evening, after the children in pasta combest though,
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I seen muscles and white wineishchilads and garlic, dressed them
with olive oil and parsley, and serve them with toasted
French bread. I also made spaghetti with fresh tomato sauce
for me because I was hungry than I had realized.
Felicity declined my offer to join me for a bit
of it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Can I just say this to all of you kto
heads out there, and you're like, we need to eat
like eight hundred pounds of like bacon and steak and
like chicken and TikTok girls making duns bean salads is
like you can have pasta.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Fasta around the clock. Yeah, So well, everything he eats
is so delicious, don't need to have like the most
restaurants he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
To, right, which he's always like so annoyed. Yeah, which
I love him talking about bad restaurants.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And he never names the restaurants, which is which.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Perhaps a bit too Yeah, and he doesn't even mention
like Delta when they piss him off.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I know, And I'm a little like maybe like name
your enemy a little more, like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like he has pasta probably like every other night, if
not every.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Day, and he looks incredible because he also works out.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
With hit Monique, his trainer. He's exercising like two hours
a day and a lot of I think you know
what he's having. And he says, which is so true,
Like it's so much better than like Fanny Singer's like
coming home pasta that's we've roasted to no end of
having like three pots of pasta boiling and like wild garlic.
He says, when he gets to a place, a new place,
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he makes a tomato sauce just to ground himself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That was so coming home pasta though, but I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's a little more real than coming home pasta. Yes,
is my point of her just being like, get seven pots,
find the wild garlic. He's just being like, what do
I actually have? Okay, I have this one onion, I
have garlic.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I can make canto sauce.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I made in my like gloomy too cheese week
on Nantucket, we made pasta a la home when no sorry,
pizza Ala home pizza. And I made a tomato sauce
that I thought was so good, one of the best
tomato sauces I've made, and obviously was so simple. But
I just did one Vodalia.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Onion so sweet you can almost eat it like an apple.
She's always saying that. He's just been like, hm, Millie,
my fouryerl didn't want to bite into the Vodalia raw,
but I put a little butter and salt on it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well there's one Lunch just makes onions, literally just makes onions.
And I'm like, okay, onion.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I I love onions anyway, So you did just garlic
basil tomato, no basil in the sauce.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay, the sauce was just the garlic, the onion, tomato paste,
a whole thing of anchovies, the whole can of San
Marzana tomatoes, and then a little ban of onion powder,
a little then of garlic powder. I know that's kind
of unorthodox, a little bit to put the powders in,
but it's like you can do. Why pretend that I'm
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not just at home, you know, making a pantry pasta sauce, or.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You want to throw powder.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I used to be just a smidge no.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
No, I used to be like very hashtag Italians mat
of food, Like I didn't grow up with garlet powder
or like onion powder, right, and I have brought it
into my home and like I'll use it sparingly when
I want it. And it's like, yeah, let's throw this
on the chicken. Let's throw a little onion powder on
a sauce. It's not going to kill it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Sometimes sometimes. Yes. The point is my pizza sauce was
really quite lovey. Did you make the dough? So the
dough was no judgment purchased, but it was local dough.
It was from something natural bakery. It was like a
Nantucket Bakery.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, literally, that's so Stanley Tucci. Yeah, like, oh, we
stopped by and we provisioned like an amazing dough. We
can whip this up. Sirsha Ronan is going over later.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Sirsha and her lovely brother and his wife and their kids,
and they raise their kids the way that we do
to behave themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, Yeah, he talks about parenting and they're going on
this like holiday trip and he's like, I just have
a few rules because I cannot go on holiday with
people that don't parent like me. And my rules are
like say you're pleasing, thank yous, and just like go
to bed at a certain time.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There is something very I would say, unbothered about his
parenting style, which I think is partially so this is
his second round of kids. Yeah, he's also sixty and
rich and has a nanny that goes unmentioned. But there
is a little bit of this where it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
A very celebrity where it's just like, oh, he calls
Felicity fee so like maybe they'll be in France or
something like that and like we'll be like, oh we
when with already on who is our host? And we
chased tadpools with the kids, and then it's kind of
drop the kids off, and then Fie and I went
to like seven different like local oyster restaurant.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There's this joy of seeing the world through the kids
are so which of course happens. We have kids and
it's wonderful. But like when he's visiting their parents in
Florida for the most where we did little to nothing
except eat and take million Mateo that's the two younger
kids that he has with Felicity to one of the
small community pools that the part of this sprawling condo
complex where my folks live. We splashed about with them,
play the loudest games of Marco Polo the condo residents
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have probably ever heard, and helped Mateo as best we
could to capture and hold chameleons for hours on end
over our five days stay. My mother made various positives
from her repertoire chicken cut lit, slap chops. But I
feel like the way he's talking about parenting is a
little bit like it's the first time he's seen the
kids in a while. It's always a little bit like.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, because he's traveling so much and he's always like
doing openings for his cookwear line out a Williams Sonoma
and then is like doing a movie where he plays
a priest, like New Orleans. And then he's like, I
love seeing my kids.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I love seeing my kids. Oh my god, we caught Solomonders.
It's so cute anyway byeto club.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Okay, are we going to talk about it? Let's finally
talk about it. So on page sixty nine, he starts
dropping little references.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
This is the first instance I.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Have where you're like, do you guys have an open marriage?
He says Felicity was out this evening. She said it
was work related. I chose to believe her. And then
just I'm gonna give you this is a whole other
thing that we need to talk about. I made Chip
a lot of sausages for the kids in the new Airfire,
amazing contraption, and a side of rice and peas.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now is that I'm surprised he likes the air f
I was really surprised. He also mentions that she makes
a broth at an instant pot. At one point, I
was kind of like, that makes more sense, that's very boomer.
But the airfire I was kind of shocked by because
He also when he goes that wine bar that has
the weird.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh my god, with the machine marking.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Me that quirks the bottle. I thought he would hate that.
That was so gimmicky and weird.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, but there is something. This is why he likes
the Firmdale Group. Yes, no, I feel like blonde. I
feel like there's something metrosexual. Or you may disagree, like
I feel like my Gadgett Gotchet's Sharper Brookstone and he's
been like, wait, so get this. We went to this
wonderful owned by the W Group. So basically it's there's
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a bar where you press a button, wine pours out
and then it like corks it back up. And he's like,
and it stays fresh for three weeks. Like, I feel
like it is just dad to be so impressed by that,
even though he's so like Tuscany, like these onions have
gone bad, He's just like, oh my god, what an
amazing contraption that is.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
There's also the point in which I don't know if
it's like Liam Neeson or like Colin fir this over
for dinner, but he's like, we tried to hyper decant
wine in a blender. Insane I really want to try that.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, it was Colin Firth, and he's like, Firth made
me hyperd decant. Next time we get together, let's totally
hyperd decant.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay. So the next kind of like instance that maybe
like something's rotten in this Denmark being their marriage, he goes,
they're cooking scallops that even Felicity saw taped some scallops,
but they didn't really see it because the pan had
not gotten hot enough, which was my fault because I
had reduced the heat as the butter was about to
burn and didn't communicate that. They didn't work out as
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well as she had hoped. She ate a few, but
I had overindulged in cold soup not long before. I
only had one.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That that was a horror movie to me. That paragraph
like when you put a scallop down and.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
My god, sitting there baking with baking from the inside.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Out, My god chills.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, so it's just gonna be this kind of sad, thick,
rubbery sweat scallup that isn't getting that gorgeous here, no, Chris,
because this scallop should be seared at the highest he
possible for the shortest amount of time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
One minute. Then there's a moment where like he's like
stripping outdoor furniture because like they put ugly varnish on it,
which again was like so metrosexual, and he's like, didn't
eat fee and I are like in an argument, and
I feel awful about it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Also, when she's sort of out of town for the weekend,
then she comes back, he's making obviously small potatoes and
carrots with garlic and onions, rosemary time and leaks and
spring onions and larger potatoes and a potato leak soup
and he's chicken breadth.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
It is planning parmasana, but it's not. It's actually the
way my family does it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And so she's been in France allegedly I'm alone with
Millia Matteo as Felicity is on a sort of retreating
Bordeaux with two colleagues, something I almost believe was true.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That line was insane.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I mean creps that morning for them. That just she
just leaves it there. So I'm just like wait because
at first, like it happens, You're like, do you try
to make a joke? Be like, oh, like is that
what she's doing? And then then she comes back Okay,
so this is when Repack yes. Upon her arrival, she
was delighted to see the children, of course, smothered them
with hugs and kisses. Cursorally pecked me on the cheek
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and started to eat. Soon afterwards, we all watched a
Harry Potter film. She promptly fell asleep beside a wide
awake Millie. Seems that someone had a busy weekend. I
chose to remain in ignorant bliss.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That was insane. What cursory peck on the cheek.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Which is so something you do after you've been having
an affair.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, also, I remember having this thought as a child,
and like seeing parents always like peck bank on it,
girl pack each other. And I was like, wait, what's
what the peck? I was like, do parents even make out?
Like I've never seen parents make out before? Like do
you just peck when you're older and married?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I know it's this weird thing because like I'm not
sure if it's because like old lips are weirder.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Or it's like in old they're always so hum right.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well old movies they're always so close mouth kiss. Yeah.
Times where boomers learned to kiss was from old movies. Yeah,
so they don't know how.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
To from Humphrey Bogart and they weren't watching such wild
things and things I hate about Sessions.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But I also feel like they were going to like
make out mountain in their like nulteen fifty one, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
They were victorious and they were being like sucking face.
They were sucking face, and there was so much heavy
padding and like putting their hands up like varsity jackets. O.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, she put her hand up his jacket. So I
feel like if any one over sixties making out, it's
Tanley Tucci.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah. So then there's this final this where he names
the puppy yes, and they buy they my mother, yea,
thank you. Our marriage is doing just great. They buy
this house in the British countryside. It's also just like
classic celebrity thing where he's like, oh, it's so expensive
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and it's going to take like all my life savings
to fix up this house in the English country stide.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's just the poverty cosplays the brief poverty cost.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I have to work and I have to renovate, and
I'm gonna die if I don't renovate. We spent the
day at the house with the architects, and the engineer
and the landscapers. I'm very excited about the prospect of
creating a home where we can spend time together as
a family, where friends and extended family can come from
long weekends. Where I can build an art studio in
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an auxiliary kitchen in which to film the cooking show
that has been percolating in my hungry mind for a
while now. Where we can plant a vegetable garden and
a small orchard and put the benefits of them to
good use every season. Where my daughters or sons can
get married, Where Felicity can bring her lover parenthesy s lovers,
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where my protologists can visit, where our grandchildren can spend time.
He goes on, so, so.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, actually, Polly dire And at that point you're like,
so that's the poll reveal. Yeah, And I'm like, if
it was a joke, it would be like more of
an obvious running joke. But it's only like reference basically,
these three times of him being like, Huh, guess you
had a fun weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Guess you had a fun night. Oh, you had a
book launch tonight. She certainly has a lot of launches. Meanwhile,
he's at a San pellygreena launch every hour of the day, right,
And he's like, doing, are they open? And is it?
Just like I don't ask, don't tell, because like he's
known for Landra one. Two he's older, so she's like,
you're old, Like I need to have fun. Three he
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travels so much, so she's like, I need to have
fun if I'm just.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Gonna be he's twenty two years her senior. It's like,
I do feel like, you know, she's in a different
generation in which open marriage is more common. It's weird
that he would like I feel like because he's so
like Instagram video every day of like Risotto, their whole
he might be so like weird interview in parade being
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like we're.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Open, but no, I know, and I like then I
started googling Stanley's and there's nothing about it. No. And
there's one interview where he says he'd tried to break
up with her because he was like I felt embarrassed
because I was so much older than her, and like
in this kind of like no, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Leave, no, don't leave me.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like we're going on holiday with Emily and John and
the kids and Ryan Reynolds and Blake coming over and
he's being like, oh my risotta plan is ruined. So
I kind of think they're open. He thinks he's being
really like funny and dad joke about their.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Open I mean, unless he's just being dad joke in
general and they're not open, and he's just like, these
are just jokes. But I'm just like the amount of
them and the specificity of them, it's a lot, but
it's not that much, you know what I mean. It's
like there's she was.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Every page like, oh, yes, so Ryan Reynolds came over, Felicity.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Back, Yeah, you know, right. But it's like just these
three very specific instances of him being like she allegedly
went to Bordeaux with her girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Choose to believe it cursory peck.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, the peck at the end, it's like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But then also throughout the book he's like, oh, I
feel like which again is so celebrity. He's like, I
feel so at home, Like when in the first part
of the book he's like staying in a hotel he
hates in Italy, and it's like filming.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
With Isabella Roussolini. Ralph finds and they're in this movie
called Conclave, which is coming. I just saw an ad
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It looks so good and it's like Priests.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's Priests and it's just like a torrid thriller about
the Catholic Church and all these cardinals.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay. I saw the poster and I was like last night.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
When I was this looks like the best movie ever.
So DIMENTI code and.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He talks about like how the camera. Yeah, but he's
always like and I made Minnestrone to like eat in
my trailer. And then he's like, oh, Ralph and I
finally finally got to have dinner together.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then they be good friends. And he's like, you know,
it's hard to make good friends at this age. Oh,
because he's like, well, we'd worked together and made in Manhattan, oh,
twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That was amazing. That was like my first note because
I was like, finally we're actually talking about made of Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We worked together before I made Manhattan over twenty years ago,
very briefly in The King's Man we'd only ever socialized
a few times, so Filmy gave us the opportunity to
spend time. When I one that era early two thousand,
Stanley two, she played like gay coded straight men who
were like communications assistants.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Den Laware's Prada.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
In Made Manhattan, he plays Ralph Kine, who is a
Republican senator. He plays his like head of.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Colm who's like annoyed at Jennifer Lopez's son and is
so just like you better get out of here.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Right, and it's just like make sure that she's not
a Democrat, because we can't have that in the news
in the New York Post, thank you very much. And
then in del War's Prada, he's just like Gerda Lloins
and it's just like gay but not. And this is
also why he's every mom's dream, because hello, he's.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Gay, but not just to gay enough for them to
be like, ugh, I wish my husband would care about
Marino Wool I mean, and like he's so like Codliver.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He's like one of those like illustrated birthday cards for women.
Oh they're like.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Takes me out to dinner, wears fine suits. Right, it's
just like buys me back.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You got me on. It's like a man with like
a hot body like in a vacuum being just like sweetie,
like I just cleaned the living room. And then just
like I thought I'd get you something that didn't exist
for your birthday like he is that.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean his like first breakout roll of Big Night,
which I remember watching a young Italian American and you know,
it's about the two Italian brothers who opened a restaurant
in New York, and this line really stuck with me
and some One of the most famous lines is he
serves this American couple of posta meatballs and they asked
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for bread, and he phillips his ass on them, and
he's being so like you are having pasta, you don't
also inneed of bread. And then in that movie they
make which I've only made once, timpanello, which is like
pasta pie. It's crazy and it takes all day and
it's a meat sauce but it's like ravioli, but it's
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layers and you're baking it and it's pastry.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I want to talk about food a little bit more.
There's a really great passage where he is making a
tomato and he goes, luckily it was a tomato that
actually tasted like a tomato. Like so many vegetables these days,
tomatoes often taste of nothing. When did that start happening?
Things used to taste like what they were. Now something
that looks like a tomato or a carrot tastes like
just a thought of those things and fruit of vegetables
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organic they usually taste better, but not always. I remember
pulling carrots on my grandfather's garden and the depth of
flavor being profound. It was the same with everything you grew,
from onions to plums. I think he's dead right, and
I think there are so many gross tomatoes and we've
actually become so accustomed to the tasteless tomato that we
forget what a real tomatoes post.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, it's because of our American desire to have food
all year round, but it's also I feel conservatives.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So it's your right that it's like, so we have
least tomatoes in February there shitty, but it's like then
you can go to the supermarket in July and still
get those shitty tomatoes for sale. It's like they're doing
February tomato.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's why you do, like have to go to like
the farmers market to get a tomato that tastes like
a tomato. I mean, I feel like most of the
time a farmer's market tomato is pretty good. And that's
what was my Stanley Tucci moment today where I had
this last of the summer tomato and I was reading
this book and I was like, I need to use
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this tomato right now because Stanley Tucci would. So I
cut up the rest of the half. I saw tata
with garlic, ginger scallions, and then I took leftover Chinese
food rice and made a tomato ginger fried rice, little
sesame oil, a little soy sauce that sounds so and
just threw an egg in there and just left it
on the stove for Felicity to have later. My literary
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age that if so kind of you, what's gonna happen
in the tomato? If not, it will go?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, it will absolutely go. I used tomato is about
to go. This morning I made it delicious, delicious sandwich
with boar's head.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ham the stereo vibes.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
One raw red on the thick slice of tomato and
then defrosted Portuguese bread that was in a freezer.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, I mean this is another thing of I mean
food and also British food versus us. So he buys
beef and his parents are visiting and as they call
it mince and his mom is freaking out, being like
this beef is too lean.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
He acts like he's out of petrol.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm like, bitch, no, calm down.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
He's just like And of course in America, you guys
call it a backyard, but we prefer the term garden.
It's so much nicer. I'm like, wee bitch, real it the.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Fucking noll and like mar Worchester or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I love that when he encounters food he doesn't like,
he just literally doesn't eat it. Yes, he's like. We
were on a weird like boat cruise dinner for the
Oppenheimer France premiere and they served some like god awful aspera.
Guess I had one minus that I can't do it.
I'm gonna go talk to Killian Murphy instead. But I
think it's like something that maybe you and I could
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do a little bit more, because I do feel like when.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Food is I was like, I need to be throwing
we don't like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It, we're just eating it, and it's like, no, just
don't eat food you don't like. Ever, just be politely declined.
Thank you for saying that, because insulting, like, just don't
eat it.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I also love the gastro pub disaster. Oh my god,
he's so honest about when a mule shitty.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Haven't we all been there?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But it was a rather lovely, upscale, cozy place that
have received several accolades over the years. So it's being
so like getting like the best of the Cotswalds or whatever.
It's like in this Redom.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, it felt a very Amtrak magazine where it's like
the Sunday Roast is like, oh, you just go to
whatever pub. But then are there are these like famous.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Elevated gastro pub that's like this chef is returning to
his hometown and he.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Is using and they're being kind of the bear and
they're like they're actually making an elevated.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Shirt trying to tie so bare. But like says, they
were trying to do it like a spin on the classics,
and it had spun out of control. We were all
very excited, but then things took a bit of a turn.
Our food was delayed for an inordinate amount of time
because the customer had spilled beer with a computer system.
In fact, we'd only learned about on our departure. The
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kids who came straight away, I guess their order having
been put in pre spill. As we waited and waited
and waited, we did find it strange that no staff
never ever alerted that's that there would be a delay,
or explain what had happened. We kept asking our service
for the food, only to be told that they would
check on it. But I guess they never really checked
because they would disappear yet again from their fifteen minutes.
After we've been waiting an hour and a half, the
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food finally came. I had hack with sampfire, which probably
took all of seven minutes to cook. It was just okay.
Other people had other things like meat, but I was
too irritated to care. In the end, the owner's apologies
were tipid at best, and he didn't do what any
good restaurant ur would do, which is not charged for
the wine or the dessert or something by way of
compensating us for the long wait. In Italy they would overcome.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
No, that is crazy that they didn't get a free
round of drinks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It's so that I'm just like just the drinks, the dessert,
not the whole meal.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But hour forty five minutes obscene? What in here that
he makes?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Do you want to make mm, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well you think on that. For me, it's the historic
goose ragu He's in a town owned by the design
of Brunella Cucinelli, and it's like this historic goose ragou
that I guess it's like clergymen would always be eating goose,
and like one day a year they let the peasants
have goose. So the peasants as a full town put
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all these goose into these communal ovens and made like
a goo bolonaise.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So do you want to do your own goosebulans or
do you want to do it with your whole community.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I think I want to do my community. I think
it's more like about like, yeah, community of everyone roasting
goose because the bolonnai is to make it last longer.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Two things I want to do. One is he just
makes a tomato sandwich at one point, but he's like,
oh no, he missed a tomato pasta. It's like a
taglia tel for like I don't know Colin for than Emily. Yeah,
And he's like, I had these really good in season tomatoes,
but he lets them sit in alive our own salt in
the fridge for two hours first and then just throws
them raw into the pasta when the pasta's done. I
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want to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, it's too bad and honestly sad for you because
we're almost out of tomato season, so have fun with
your associated tomatoes like raw hard bland. I think, oh,
this was a beautiful quote, which I think we should
all buy by it. Like he is just being like
passaba tomatoes and like a risotto and a fish and
a salad, which is.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Also is not He makes risotto constantly, and he has
his nice patch where he talks about like how difficult
it is, like I've never cooked risota successfully. It's one
of the hardest things to do. He's like, you need
to have such a sixth sense for it. I'm still
learning after all these years. Like, but I'm impressed that
he's constantly throwing together I know I want.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
To do it more. And he says this word that
I learned in this book that I love, this Italian
word mentakato, which is mean when you turn off the
heat of the pasta and then you add the cheese
and the button and then that's when you stir it
with the.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Pasta water on it, and you let the heat of
the pasta itself.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Cook it cook because the heat of the pan will
add too much heat. Of course, I actually learned that
from Mari Potalley. My idea of Fred One celebrity moment
of his celebrity dinners that I found so funny is it?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And I just want to say, of course it's crass
to talk about celebrities again.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of course, and I'm not trying to name drop here
at all. Is when Sam the famous play right an
actor Sam hell is his name whatever, he at the
last minute is like, oh can I bring friends over?
And Stanley Tucci is like he always does this, and
the friend is like Woody Harrelson and sircial Ronan, Oh
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do He'd already planned on having over. And then the
friend is like, I'm gonna come over early. And this
is the point where Stanley Tucci is really costplaying. It
was like a stressed father and he's been like me
and Fear are still in our workout gear, the kids
aren't Bathe like, I haven't even stalked my bar with
like child martini glasses. And then he's like, oh and
the friend is like kind of come over early, and
he gets like really mad and he's like go to
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a fucking bar and the friend is like, put it's raining,
and he texts back just like it doesn't rain in bars.
And then they come over and he was like, oh,
I was so excited to cook for Sirsha because I
hadn't cooked for her ever. And he was like and
Woody was hilarious, and I was so glad to beat
his new wife.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I mean that's where he is like so gay. But
I guess also metrosexual is like my kitchen needs to
be sparklean, clean. Yeah, it is this cosplay where's like
pretending like they can't see the kid, like eating cheerios
and it's just.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Like but I think his advice at the end of
that was just like have it be clean, have barstock
with wine, something for a groani, something from martiniz. You
don't need to call back to our original Zoe episode
of last week. You don't need whiskey, gin ruquila, say everything.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Just have the elements for martinis and you're trying to
go take a great and pretend please.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
And for those non drinking folks, Sam Pellegrino will go
just fine at the Square to Flemn.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
This book is really you know, and the related thoughts.
It is like a lot about death and aging, which
is quite beautiful, and he has a lot to think
about because he's in his sixties and his wife is
twenty years younger, so it's like really in his mind,
and he has these kind of very poignant ways of
talking about it, like when he talked about how he
is like now thinking about death a lot more because
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he realized he has twenty years to go, and twenty
years is amount of time that like he can really
wrap his head around. Yeah, that really spoke to me
because I was like, we are and at the age
of thirty seven, say loud and proud, you know, I've
maybe got forty fifty years left, and it's like I've
never experienced forty or fifty years. I can't really maybe I.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Don't know what twenty that just twenty is, and.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Like I kind of know what like a thirty year
chunk is too, Like I mean twenty years ago, like
that was yesterday, literally thirty years ago still feels like
like kind of getting it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The scariest part to me that made me feel like
really fear death, which he talked about now that he
lives in England and like has his new family is
He's like, I can't see these friends that I spent
so much time with before, and he was like, if
you think about that, I'm actually probably only going to
see some of these people ten more times in my life.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Oh yeah, but that's more like when you're so serious
and straight and like organizing really seriously.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That could we could be sixty, it's like not gonna
be us, and like we both are on our third
marriages with like four year olds, and I'm just like, oh,
I would love to meet you, like in Dingley.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Next fall.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The same time, he's hanging out with like Colin Firth
and like Lotty his manager like constantly knowing like you're
hanging more than no, and.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They're going like he's going to the River Cafere with
Tom Ford and then he's like and I won't tell
you what we discussed, and I'm like, you guys are
notingly discussing your open marriages and yeah, I'm like wool
with this one passage where he meets the guy whose
wife died. This fan who comes up to him, Oh yeah,
and like says that his wife had recently passed, and
he's like his hand shook a bit when he took mine,
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to which he held on tightly. I recognized the shaking
was from age as well as nervousness, but I also
knew that it was brought about by a flood of
emotion as he held my hand. I knew that the
very real and visceral feeling of her presence. So he's
talking about how like the wife is there brought about
by this moment, an experience they would have shared where
she's so alive would weigh in over time, But he
could not know this then did he need to? That
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realization and knowledge was years ahead of him. Yet her
presence at times such as these would never disappear completely.
It would always be there, always, but soon it would
become less prevalent. In time, her presence would slip into
his body, his heart and thoughts, sometimes gently, sometimes joltingly,
but it would never last for as long as it
would today. Eventually, years from now, it would a light
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on the tip of his soul for just a second
or two, carrying with it a shiver of the past,
a glimpse of a future that might have been, and
then it would disappear once again. Isn't that so beautiful?
And of course he's talking about his own dead wife,
Kate Kate while talking about using this man as sort
of And.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
That's the other thing, whether or not to go back
as we close this episode, about moving on or not.
I think this book is a lot about like, Okay,
you also can like get remarried and like still be grieving.
Yes not, you know, just cut and dry. Obviously there
are harsher situations like John Edwards.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, and his monster of a way you see rest
in Hell.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
But you can have a beautiful open marriage with a
younger literary yes, and still grieve.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And still grieve here and there, and then have these
little precious moments where your wife's presence enters your soul
for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Maybe you think about texting Eadie Falco just randomly watching
an episode of The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
They've put the kids to bed after their pasta, and
then they're just like season three segments with extra virgin
olive oil and bistecca ala Fiorentina. What does she wear?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
What does she eat? How does what does she eat?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Pasta? Pasta hotel, the hotel, SA Sausage Joes shrim I
mean he has a very savory palette, as is the
custom today with the cool kids. Oh, very classic modern
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contemporary Mediterranean palette. It's like because he says he's not
a big dessert person.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well he also says like, I'm he's not being like
I'm going to try to like cook like Tetobalki tonight,
Like he's just like I stick to like what I know.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, He's like, maybe I'm actually being like too fearful
and I need to get out of my comfort zone
and try to cook Asian food more. But then I
worry I wouldn't have the freedom to kind of adjust
that I.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Feel with which that part was so smart, and we
need to move fast. But it's like you have to
really know a cuisine.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
To know if it needs a little bit more garlic, oh,
if it needs like you know, any It's kind of
where it's like with Chinese food Malaysian food he'sn't known to.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Do also, which we didn't even mention throughout this entire book.
This book is also about how he had like a
tongue tumor and it was like couldn't taste which.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, but well he discusses that in his previous book
Taste Right, and so he can be like, as I
mentioned in my previous book, and I won't go into two.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Much because I'm in a book to He can't really
do much meat. That's why it is a lot of fishing.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Because he doesn't like produce as much saliva, yeah, which
is also why he isn't like love as Tannic reds,
and so he prefers the Northern Italian red, which I
still find has a lovely tan in to it. Because
he's talking about how he's like instead of those like
Central Italian like super big, multiple giano whatever that people
like I love, who is like men usually want big reds,
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but you know, and he was like absolutely a Northern Italian.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
He realizes that other new metrosexuals don't like a huge
and their big yeah, don't like big cabs.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, and they like you know, the natty natty one.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And the only time he drinks tequila is at the beginning.
Oh no, he doesn't even he makes a paloma, but
he does it with jam.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That part was so weird when he was like, Felicity
introduced me to this very interesting new drink called a paloma.
I know. I was like, I'm like, what I think
is the only Diagio like ambassador. You don't know about
polomas and.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Then they tequila when Blake and Ryan come over, of
course because like celebrity, even though Ryan owns a gin company.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, and like Stanley Tucci's a Gin ambassador. Yeah, but
they're just being like, we're both celebrities. We have so
we have to like to.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
What does he wear? He wears like when it's casual,
it's like a stunning Laura Piana.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like Keanna he is keeping the lights on over there
at the piano store, and it's.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like what you said, like you know, at the farmer's market,
a Stunningneker. Yeah, and like a beautiful again like Bruno
Chanelli or like a Zenya pant Or. It's like a
suit made by like a stunning tailor he met in
search for Italy.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
And then how does he live? Like Okay, here's the question.
What are the countertops? Are they? I think are they marble?
I think it's marble. And I think his house is
kind of dark. Okay, yes, for sure, it's like dark
remanded colors. I mean his house like I feel like,
does look like a boutiqu Kota and like there is
a lot of like dark colors in the dark greens
and like the black window panes.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
And he's always like making his cocktails like in a
sidebar where there's so many espresso pods.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
However, I guess I'm like, marble countertops are harder to clean, and.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I'm like, do you think he's doing something more simple
because with the kids and like chopping.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Like it would be so sexy if you had like
butcher block countertops.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But maybe he talks about being really jealous of David
Beckham's outdoor kitchen, but he.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Also has this massive outdoor kitchen with this crazy grill
and like pizza ovens.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I know, but he's like, it's not like backs. We
always want something more yea, And I feel like it's
like a navy blue velvet couch.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I definitely think there's plenty of jewel tones in there.
I think you're right about the darker hues. Okay, here's
my question. How present is the ex wife framed black
and white photos frame like on the cape?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Well, because also it's like for the kids, well, I
guess the older kids aren't really there. They're like trying
to be makeup artists. Yeah, I think it's like one
framed family photo with the ex wife not just.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Wife solo, no solo dead wife.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
And then it's like some photos of them, and then
I think it is like but.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
They're like I think there's like a bowl they got
on a trip to Japan together that's prominently displayed and
it's known. It's like no one says it's Kate's ball,
but we all know it's.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Kate's ball, and Felicity is of like, oh, I love
Kate's bowl. You know, I love Kate's bowl. I think
it's a low bed. I think it's glassy, medium low bed.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I think it's medium low.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
He's sixty.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
But then I'm like, actually, maybe it's not even medium low.
It actually may be high in a hotel way.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
And like just so many shit because also like British
and British they don't do lost.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They are like high beds over there, and they're like
clutter out the who and like she's not so cluttered,
but like she's little cutter.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Might be a little cluttery, a lid agent agent. And
there's books, pile, bridget shone stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah. I think there's like their reception area where calling
Furth is having martinis is free of chargers, but it's
Charaguers Central. Once you're get into the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Well, and then there's like the whole part about like
how much gadget and iguana. I think there's there's air fires.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Right, there is so many fucking gadgets. Yeah, obviously there's
mains that are putting the gadgets away, but then the
gadgets are coming out, and there's charging pads and charging
stations and like there's an iPod doc that's.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
So like Hotels iPad doc yeah, for recipes, and like
I'm almost just at this point, I'm like, there's the
Bows five disc. I mean there isn't, but it's so
nose up in that house. And he's like, because.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
There's at one point where he's playing music off his phone.
He's like, I played the Great American Songbook off my
phone and put it in a cup to amplify it.
I really need to get a speaker because he's so gadget.
He's like, I need an amazing and then like Nicol
Christmas idea.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, it's like getting him a JBL and it's very parently.
They're like getting him like the wrong speaker and no
one can connect and it's yeah, so Christmas, I mean
they're like, Okay, deconnect, Okay, try connecting again. Okay, who
are you in the book?
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's Christmas around the clock over there.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I mean to me, I'm Stanley in your Felicity, and
I'm just gonna be like, I guess I won't ask
about like where.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
You weren't born to I mean, you're married to a
little agent though you're a Wifelicity.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Oh oh that she's more Felicity, but it is not
involved in the who are you? No she is. No,
It's like, well, that's why I feel like i'm standing
because I'm like also married to a lit agent, right, and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You think I'm going on a trip and my husband's
just been like, I guess I won't ask.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, though, I guess you're also just like Harry's styles
coming over for dinner.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
And I'm so nice and we love him. He's such
a good friend.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You're also just like Emily Blunt. You're getting together.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Emily, and you're like, I can't believe you didn't tell me.
You're stopping my system. Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I love going over that, And then I'm being like, oh,
I think it's time for us to leave.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, and it's time just to end this episode. Dollars.
I get this straight up, yeah, wild Garlic.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
I love a diary. I think it's so much more
revealing than a traditional memoir.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
It is because if someone was writing a memoir, he
wouldn't say felicity under coach scallops.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
No, you get that in diary.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm giving this yeah for under non seared scallops.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And it's quite inspiring.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
And and he's being honest. How he doesn't trust his
own line of quickwear, and that's what you get in diary.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
I don't trust it either. It's all, yeah, seven hundred dollars.
It's look really expensive. I mean I guess it should be,
but I'm just like the world need another like non
coded ceramic. And he knows that, Yeah, he knows. Sorry, Bye,
My Mommy, My Mommy is a broadcast was a produced
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the Vidarb Master, a supervising producer.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Hell Laura.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
The podcast is done by the pizzolo here Christina Ever
she makes a beautiful marinera simple little carrot on in Basil.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
And the French shirt is that a sound engineer and
also a producer.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
The theme song is a Sicilian recording artist Steve as
Her Phillips Horst is the old folks singer.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
And there is just a one tiny illegal matter that
my lawyer makes me say. That is La Monte Prolagos,
a tiny office in Genoa. They do a nice job,
beautiful and the artwork was known by Daddy Blanks and
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he studied the Institute the Fordma Michelangelo.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
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go to Patreon dot concerts.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
That's only like a six years an express a week,
so one espress
Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.
You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books
and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books,
it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir, it's martinis. Celebrity poof Club,
Read it while it's hot. Celebrity poof Club, Tell your secrets.
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We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are a loud
celebrity book say it loud and cloud Celebrity book Club.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Buzz me in. I brought the queer vow.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Heyst, where are you?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Literally? Where am I ware? What? Who? You come to yourself?
I travel so.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Much travel and at our age, sometimes our heads can
be elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Luckily, my knees stn't work?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh do they? Because you are your fucking all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
This, Oh, how dare you? You're the cocksucker?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And how great reviews? Beautiful reviews?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And you know what if I did even suck dick,
amazing reviews may be like wonderful, wonderful, wonder wonderful. Listen,
No enough of the bathroom humor.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Seriously, let's get serious because we have an extremely elegant
topic today.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I know it's actually I'm like, oh, we started off
so rawling elegance and we're talking about butter today. Oh
and we're talking about oh, I don't know, crisp white
wine from the Piedmont region.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, or even can I say it's hilarious, so wrong
to have I don't know the crispus have ever happened.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't know what about. I don't know what insanely
crisp peanut grease at lunch at one pm with your
older son.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Who made me a beautiful Welsh rampit because he's really
coming into his own as a chef, were talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
We're talking about none other than the hottest man to
all moms in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is so true, mom bait.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Literally, mom bait, we were talking about one of the
yummiest Italian Americans in history.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
One of the original metrosexuals.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Literally, No, he's like the last, the original and the last.
And we're going to get into that, someone who is
famous for acting but is now known for.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Food and his guns. Ladies, because he do be working
out quite often, often with his yoga.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Instruct Okay, shake, shake, shake your groove thing, that's a
negroni I'm talking about. We are talking about none other than.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Stanley touch and his brand new book What I Ate
In One.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Year and related thoughts. H This whole book is so
like yummy, and it's like jazz. It's like soft jazz,
rainy London afternoon with a good glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
This book is full up jazz. And it was so
perfect that I was reading on the plane from Nantucket
to La Guardia, having just had a week of being
like mm so like rich, but also like cozy and
gloomy because it was like shoulder season late September Nantucket.
(03:31):
I was there. Yeah, I'll spill the beans.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Saw your personal life on this personal trip, but it
was personal yet for your wife's business, yes, which is
so Stanley. So he's always being so like well off
to the Dingly Literary Festival with Felicity. God, she has
so many launches. Okay, So you were having like a gluey.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And as we do this, I'm gonna make us a
very Stanley Tucci beverage by just what they had on
the iHeart fridge, because sometimes you just have to go with.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's available, just what's available.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Some kind of improvised spaghettes, which is a little stella
with a splash.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Of apaol, which you a true spaghett is Miller high
life an apaol.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, but he do want one, You're going to try it.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
We love to peer pressure on this pod, and I
think Estella will work because you know, I think the
whole point of like the spaghetti is this high low,
like really watery beer, and Estella is you know, like
the most plain airport lounge delta beer.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So it's like it's a pale European lagger.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
And Stanley Tucci is having to do a collab in
like skinny for it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No one is more airport lounge than too cheap. What
I've realized reading this book is that he really is
so comfortable in like a pretty new hotel. Yeah, where
they have like the backlit bar and the high top
like blonde wood tables.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Blondewood tables but like deep orange hues.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, or she was on like deep steel window like fenestration.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh wait, while you make these, I'm just gonna read
this passage just to kind of put us in place
with this book of him checking into a hotel. Here's
your set, Okay, thank you, darling, Cheers beautiful after Annenna's
arrived from JFK to Manhattan. We checked into the Whitby Hotel,
which is part of the Firmdale Group. I love staying
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in their hotels because there's a consistency of eccentric, cozy design.
They are spotlessly clean and beautifully appointed, and the staff
is kind. I first stayed and won the Covenant Garden
Hotel in London over twenty years ago with Kate while
promoting Big Night. We had the loveliest time together at
that trip, and it was the first time I'd ever
seen an Honesty bar, which is a stable in all
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Firmdale hotels. Another property of theirs, the Charlotte Street Hotel,
is where I stayed while filming Captain American, where Flissy
and I first spent time together.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
As they say, this is so crazy because when the
Firmdale Hotel group first comes up, like earlier in the book,
when you stayed at the Crosby Hotel, which is a
Firmdale property and so and he just goes more on
that later, and I'm like, more on the Firmdale Group later.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was like, girl, what more on that later?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And lo and behold, there was much more to say
about their incredible properties.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Because a lot of times when like a book will
be so like and we'll get to that later in
the Luanaway, they don't get to it. But he was
so being like, no, I must finish my thoughts on
the firmiler.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
He's a hospitality pilled mama.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So I guess this book is also even though it's
all about like cod and butter, it is also like
a meditation on aging, his wife, dying, his new wife,
his own mortality with his new wife, Emily Blunt's sister,
Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Such a funny name, Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Hello, I'm fit and she is a literary agent.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
It's just the most literary agent thing that could possibly be.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's such a movie, like a British John spin off,
being like, oh meet my agent, Felicity Blunt. She'll be
taking you to dinner.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, So let me ask you something before we even
get into all the journal entries. And this really quite
lovely book, lovely book. So his wife died of cancer, Kate,
his wife of fifteen years, has two kids with her.
She dies in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And you know the whole backstory also with their marriage,
which was he did a play with Edie Falco. They
had an affair, he left his wife Kate.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And just you know, Stanley, if you're listening, this is
a literary criticism pot and we will be talking about
the chart. There's just a little bit of Delbert, but
of course we're mostly talking about food and literature.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, Felicity Blunt, Yeah, the way he left his wife
for her and then his wife had cancer and he
got back with his wife and left Edie Falco and
Edi fa never married.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Oh yeah, he got out of cancer guilt.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know I who's out of cancer guilt. I
think he was like, let me get back with my wife.
But some mother my children.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yes, And sometimes an illness can throw your priorities into
stark relief.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I don't know the exact timeline. It could have
been like he needed some relief. And you know, of
course you've done many plays. When you do play and
you're with the cast, emotions.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Playing chemistry, and that can supersede reality.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Right, we almost get into these romances. Forty five minutes
at the iHeart Offices.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh my god. Also just the redness of the iHeart Studio,
the roomb if you will, and I.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Saw this quote from felt being like, oh, I'm thrilled
he's back with his wife. I'm sure anyway, I read
his wife did pass sadly, passes.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Very sadly in two thousand and nine. In two thousand
and ten, he attends the wedding of John Krasinski and
Emily Blunt and whoms does he meet at the wedding
Felicity Bluntity And of course.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He had just done the devil rest pradact with Emily,
which is they were becoming quite close.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And then one you later he's married to Felicity.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I think to one year later he they hook up
at a firm deal group property and at the Charlotte
Street Hotel. Sorry, okay, they make and then the next
year they're married. I mean, when I read that timeline,
I'm like, okay, wife, If illco back with wife, wife dies.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, he's a talent, it's also passionate.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Also, it's classic man they need women, Yes, they need woman. Also,
I think I don't think it's too soon. No, my
first reaction was absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I said, if I died and my boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Married within two years, right.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Lived would be absolutely corpse.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You'd be rolling in your firm deal group grave. I
think it's also I mean he had two kids and
was like, I think that just is very classic male.
They're like, okay, I'm a single father.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I need to like But also like Tucci is the
most eligible man alive, and so just like when he
became an Eli bachelor, it's like, so he's a gorgeous
man who takes care of his body, wildly successful, elegant,
can cook, loves travel, knows about wine, cares a little
breast literature.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It's like, he's not gonna stay single. But I also
don't see and to your point of all those things,
I think he is someone that wants like more of
a long term companion. I don't think after the wife
he was probably like, Okay, I'm gonna like fuck around.
He's like, I'm just gonna move on fast and get
a younger wife and younger. She is younger, she is
she's younger than Emily. Yeah, she's twenty one years his junior.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And there is a place, there's funny part where he's
just like, and of course my child. And then comes
the questions, why are you so much older than mommy?
But why is mommy still taller than you?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
The bar was so funny. He was like, this is
what's happening during bedtime, which.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Makes them a huge fem tiny butch couple. Yes, but
this makes sense because I heard from someone recently that
I saw in real life. Oh yeah, he said they
had seen Stanley Tucci recently in real life, and of
course the Union Square Farmer's market.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Of course, and he was like just picking up what's fresh,
and he's like, I'm so into aliums lately.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And they said he was short af I mean Italian
guys are short, and he was wearing like when do
you remember? He was wearing an open cartigan kind of
maybe a khaki pant or a dress pant, a rown
kind of like leathery sneakery kind of dress shoes like
Dad Dad, but.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like it's all Rothman's like he was probably like really
nice leather.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It was definitely nice, like Milanese, like four hundred and
fifty dollars, like sneaker dress shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
In this book, He's like, well, you know, I like
clothes as much as I like food.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I certainly does. Yeah, I don't think everyone needs to
wear a three piece suit every day, but my goodness,
he was like.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
My goodness a T shirt to a premiere and he's like,
this is why I love wool and this is why
I love Autumn.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
This book is very transparent about the job of celebrity
because it's just like he's like, I'm a sanm Pella
greena ambassador, I'm a Tanker Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And also it's like Tanker Ray number three, Like he
really gets specific.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He's like, well take Gray number ten. There's no number three.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'll leave.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You can see yourself out.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
This is like when I heard it, Gay was like,
I'm surprised how much Lily doesn't know. On the podcast,
this is when he's referring to go on.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
For the Palace event, I had chosen to wear a
cream colored linen, double breasted and muted plaid suit, a
white shirt of brown tie, brown socks, and brown shoes.
I love clothing as much as I love food, and
I always like to dress not only well but appropriately
for whatever the occasion might be. I loathe the fact
that our world has become so casual, so many people
were the same thing for a night on in the
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town or to the theater that they were around the house,
which is most often a T shirt and jeans, or
even just sweatpants. When I did some cocktail videos during
lockdown for my Instagram, one person commented very excitedly that
I was wearing pants and a belt, although to be fair,
that was all people talked about in lockdowns and pants
with pants and hard pants, hard pants and soft pants.
(13:07):
Let's face it, adults today dressed like children. Shots fired.
I'm not suggesting that one down a three piece suit
every day, but anything other than short sneakers and T
shirts plastered with oversized logos or catchphrases like I used
to drink but that was hours ago, or shit I
don't have time for, followed by a list of that
quote shit would be a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Him quoting my sassy Walmartees, I was obsessed. Im go off.
I mean say more, say it more for the people
in the back, and you don't. And that's the thing.
You don't have to be a coastally. It's just like
we think, now, oh, everyone else's casual, so then you
don't dress up, and then it's just casual. Casual casual.
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I mean, go to the theater and people aren't.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
You go to the theater and people are in sweet
sure vests, disgusting, horrendous. You and I are going to
a film premiere after this, and we're and stun beautiful
slacks kids, ripe slacks and dress shoes and button down
shirts and silver brais.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Silver bracelets, and we didn't plan these outfits to be
max exactly. The thing. What I was so inspired by
reading this book is I kept on like reading, and
then I would get up and go to my fridge
and just make kind of random ship because I feel
like that's what like random shit, because I was like,
this theme is about how he's always like, oh, like
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my kids are so picking. He's trying to like push
more things on them, but they're also kind of like
still more advanced than like most I would say, like
American children, Like one of them, who's four, is always
asking for like butter noodles.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But the other one is like then graduates to wanting apasta,
wanting to an apasta, which I would have never had
as like an eight year old or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Now and they're having like pesto at four, which I
feel like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I arrived home in time to see the kids before school.
They did pot moments afterwards into the Caravra nanny who's
barely mentioned.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, then nanny. But then you're like, obviously they have
so much nann eating because like Ham and Felicity are
always going out.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But we'll get to the parenting in a second. Who,
along with Felicity more than picked up the slack while
I was away. I scrambled some eggs, pried up some
Cotto cook slice Italian Ham, slapped it all between two
pieces of lightly toasted white bread from the nineteen fifties
our bakery around the corner, wolfed it down, then collapse
into bed for longer than I'm disapated. Obviously, the sleeping
pill decided that it had not completely fulfilled its mission.
In the evening, after the children in pasta combest though,
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I seen muscles and white wineishchilads and garlic, dressed them
with olive oil and parsley, and serve them with toasted
French bread. I also made spaghetti with fresh tomato sauce
for me because I was hungry than I had realized.
Felicity declined my offer to join me for a bit
of it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Can I just say this to all of you kto
heads out there, and you're like, we need to eat
like eight hundred pounds of like bacon and steak and
like chicken and TikTok girls making duns bean salads is
like you can have pasta.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Fasta around the clock. Yeah, So well, everything he eats
is so delicious, don't need to have like the most
restaurants he goes.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
To, right, which he's always like so annoyed. Yeah, which
I love him talking about bad restaurants.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
And he never names the restaurants, which is which.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Perhaps a bit too Yeah, and he doesn't even mention
like Delta when they piss him off.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I know, And I'm a little like maybe like name
your enemy a little more, like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like he has pasta probably like every other night, if
not every.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Day, and he looks incredible because he also works out.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
With hit Monique, his trainer. He's exercising like two hours
a day and a lot of I think you know
what he's having. And he says, which is so true,
Like it's so much better than like Fanny Singer's like
coming home pasta that's we've roasted to no end of
having like three pots of pasta boiling and like wild garlic.
He says, when he gets to a place, a new place,
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he makes a tomato sauce just to ground himself.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
That was so coming home pasta though, but I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's a little more real than coming home pasta. Yes,
is my point of her just being like, get seven pots,
find the wild garlic. He's just being like, what do
I actually have? Okay, I have this one onion, I
have garlic.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I can make canto sauce.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So I made in my like gloomy too cheese week
on Nantucket, we made pasta a la home when no sorry,
pizza Ala home pizza. And I made a tomato sauce
that I thought was so good, one of the best
tomato sauces I've made, and obviously was so simple. But
I just did one Vodalia.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Onion so sweet you can almost eat it like an apple.
She's always saying that. He's just been like, hm, Millie,
my fouryerl didn't want to bite into the Vodalia raw,
but I put a little butter and salt on it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well there's one Lunch just makes onions, literally just makes onions.
And I'm like, okay, onion.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I I love onions anyway, So you did just garlic
basil tomato, no basil in the sauce.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Okay, the sauce was just the garlic, the onion, tomato paste,
a whole thing of anchovies, the whole can of San
Marzana tomatoes, and then a little ban of onion powder,
a little then of garlic powder. I know that's kind
of unorthodox, a little bit to put the powders in,
but it's like you can do. Why pretend that I'm
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not just at home, you know, making a pantry pasta sauce, or.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You want to throw powder.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I used to be just a smidge no.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
No, I used to be like very hashtag Italians mat
of food, Like I didn't grow up with garlet powder
or like onion powder, right, and I have brought it
into my home and like I'll use it sparingly when
I want it. And it's like, yeah, let's throw this
on the chicken. Let's throw a little onion powder on
a sauce. It's not going to kill it.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Sometimes sometimes. Yes. The point is my pizza sauce was
really quite lovey. Did you make the dough? So the
dough was no judgment purchased, but it was local dough.
It was from something natural bakery. It was like a
Nantucket Bakery.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, literally, that's so Stanley Tucci. Yeah, like, oh, we
stopped by and we provisioned like an amazing dough. We
can whip this up. Sirsha Ronan is going over later.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Sirsha and her lovely brother and his wife and their kids,
and they raise their kids the way that we do
to behave themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, Yeah, he talks about parenting and they're going on
this like holiday trip and he's like, I just have
a few rules because I cannot go on holiday with
people that don't parent like me. And my rules are
like say you're pleasing, thank yous, and just like go
to bed at a certain time.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There is something very I would say, unbothered about his
parenting style, which I think is partially so this is
his second round of kids. Yeah, he's also sixty and
rich and has a nanny that goes unmentioned. But there
is a little bit of this where it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
A very celebrity where it's just like, oh, he calls
Felicity fee so like maybe they'll be in France or
something like that and like we'll be like, oh we
when with already on who is our host? And we
chased tadpools with the kids, and then it's kind of
drop the kids off, and then Fie and I went
to like seven different like local oyster restaurant.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There's this joy of seeing the world through the kids
are so which of course happens. We have kids and
it's wonderful. But like when he's visiting their parents in
Florida for the most where we did little to nothing
except eat and take million Mateo that's the two younger
kids that he has with Felicity to one of the
small community pools that the part of this sprawling condo
complex where my folks live. We splashed about with them,
play the loudest games of Marco Polo the condo residents
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have probably ever heard, and helped Mateo as best we
could to capture and hold chameleons for hours on end
over our five days stay. My mother made various positives
from her repertoire chicken cut lit, slap chops. But I
feel like the way he's talking about parenting is a
little bit like it's the first time he's seen the
kids in a while. It's always a little bit like.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, because he's traveling so much and he's always like
doing openings for his cookwear line out a Williams Sonoma
and then is like doing a movie where he plays
a priest, like New Orleans. And then he's like, I
love seeing my kids.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I love seeing my kids. Oh my god, we caught Solomonders.
It's so cute anyway byeto club.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Okay, are we going to talk about it? Let's finally
talk about it. So on page sixty nine, he starts
dropping little references.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
This is the first instance I.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Have where you're like, do you guys have an open marriage?
He says Felicity was out this evening. She said it
was work related. I chose to believe her. And then
just I'm gonna give you this is a whole other
thing that we need to talk about. I made Chip
a lot of sausages for the kids in the new Airfire,
amazing contraption, and a side of rice and peas.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now is that I'm surprised he likes the air f
I was really surprised. He also mentions that she makes
a broth at an instant pot. At one point, I
was kind of like, that makes more sense, that's very boomer.
But the airfire I was kind of shocked by because
He also when he goes that wine bar that has
the weird.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh my god, with the machine marking.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Me that quirks the bottle. I thought he would hate that.
That was so gimmicky and weird.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, but there is something. This is why he likes
the Firmdale Group. Yes, no, I feel like blonde. I
feel like there's something metrosexual. Or you may disagree, like
I feel like my Gadgett Gotchet's Sharper Brookstone and he's
been like, wait, so get this. We went to this
wonderful owned by the W Group. So basically it's there's
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a bar where you press a button, wine pours out
and then it like corks it back up. And he's like,
and it stays fresh for three weeks. Like, I feel
like it is just dad to be so impressed by that,
even though he's so like Tuscany, like these onions have
gone bad, He's just like, oh my god, what an
amazing contraption that is.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
There's also the point in which I don't know if
it's like Liam Neeson or like Colin fir this over
for dinner, but he's like, we tried to hyper decant
wine in a blender. Insane I really want to try that.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, it was Colin Firth, and he's like, Firth made
me hyperd decant. Next time we get together, let's totally
hyperd decant.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay. So the next kind of like instance that maybe
like something's rotten in this Denmark being their marriage, he goes,
they're cooking scallops that even Felicity saw taped some scallops,
but they didn't really see it because the pan had
not gotten hot enough, which was my fault because I
had reduced the heat as the butter was about to
burn and didn't communicate that. They didn't work out as
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well as she had hoped. She ate a few, but
I had overindulged in cold soup not long before. I
only had one.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That that was a horror movie to me. That paragraph
like when you put a scallop down and.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
My god, sitting there baking with baking from the inside.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Out, My god chills.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, so it's just gonna be this kind of sad, thick,
rubbery sweat scallup that isn't getting that gorgeous here, no, Chris,
because this scallop should be seared at the highest he
possible for the shortest amount of time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
One minute. Then there's a moment where like he's like
stripping outdoor furniture because like they put ugly varnish on it,
which again was like so metrosexual, and he's like, didn't
eat fee and I are like in an argument, and
I feel awful about it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Also, when she's sort of out of town for the weekend,
then she comes back, he's making obviously small potatoes and
carrots with garlic and onions, rosemary time and leaks and
spring onions and larger potatoes and a potato leak soup
and he's chicken breadth.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
It is planning parmasana, but it's not. It's actually the
way my family does it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And so she's been in France allegedly I'm alone with
Millia Matteo as Felicity is on a sort of retreating
Bordeaux with two colleagues, something I almost believe was true.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That line was insane.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I mean creps that morning for them. That just she
just leaves it there. So I'm just like wait because
at first, like it happens, You're like, do you try
to make a joke? Be like, oh, like is that
what she's doing? And then then she comes back Okay,
so this is when Repack yes. Upon her arrival, she
was delighted to see the children, of course, smothered them
with hugs and kisses. Cursorally pecked me on the cheek
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and started to eat. Soon afterwards, we all watched a
Harry Potter film. She promptly fell asleep beside a wide
awake Millie. Seems that someone had a busy weekend. I
chose to remain in ignorant bliss.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That was insane. What cursory peck on the cheek.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Which is so something you do after you've been having
an affair.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, also, I remember having this thought as a child,
and like seeing parents always like peck bank on it,
girl pack each other. And I was like, wait, what's
what the peck? I was like, do parents even make out?
Like I've never seen parents make out before? Like do
you just peck when you're older and married?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I know it's this weird thing because like I'm not
sure if it's because like old lips are weirder.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Or it's like in old they're always so hum right.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well old movies they're always so close mouth kiss. Yeah.
Times where boomers learned to kiss was from old movies. Yeah,
so they don't know how.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
To from Humphrey Bogart and they weren't watching such wild
things and things I hate about Sessions.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But I also feel like they were going to like
make out mountain in their like nulteen fifty one, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
They were victorious and they were being like sucking face.
They were sucking face, and there was so much heavy
padding and like putting their hands up like varsity jackets. O.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, she put her hand up his jacket. So I
feel like if any one over sixties making out, it's
Tanley Tucci.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah. So then there's this final this where he names
the puppy yes, and they buy they my mother, yea,
thank you. Our marriage is doing just great. They buy
this house in the British countryside. It's also just like
classic celebrity thing where he's like, oh, it's so expensive
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and it's going to take like all my life savings
to fix up this house in the English country stide.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's just the poverty cosplays the brief poverty cost.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I have to work and I have to renovate, and
I'm gonna die if I don't renovate. We spent the
day at the house with the architects, and the engineer
and the landscapers. I'm very excited about the prospect of
creating a home where we can spend time together as
a family, where friends and extended family can come from
long weekends. Where I can build an art studio in
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an auxiliary kitchen in which to film the cooking show
that has been percolating in my hungry mind for a
while now. Where we can plant a vegetable garden and
a small orchard and put the benefits of them to
good use every season. Where my daughters or sons can
get married, Where Felicity can bring her lover parenthesy s lovers,
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where my protologists can visit, where our grandchildren can spend time.
He goes on, so, so.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, actually, Polly dire And at that point you're like,
so that's the poll reveal. Yeah, And I'm like, if
it was a joke, it would be like more of
an obvious running joke. But it's only like reference basically,
these three times of him being like, Huh, guess you
had a fun weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Guess you had a fun night. Oh, you had a
book launch tonight. She certainly has a lot of launches. Meanwhile,
he's at a San pellygreena launch every hour of the day, right,
And he's like, doing, are they open? And is it?
Just like I don't ask, don't tell, because like he's
known for Landra one. Two he's older, so she's like,
you're old, Like I need to have fun. Three he
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travels so much, so she's like, I need to have
fun if I'm just.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Gonna be he's twenty two years her senior. It's like,
I do feel like, you know, she's in a different
generation in which open marriage is more common. It's weird
that he would like I feel like because he's so
like Instagram video every day of like Risotto, their whole
he might be so like weird interview in parade being
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like we're.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Open, but no, I know, and I like then I
started googling Stanley's and there's nothing about it. No. And
there's one interview where he says he'd tried to break
up with her because he was like I felt embarrassed
because I was so much older than her, and like
in this kind of like no, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Leave, no, don't leave me.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like we're going on holiday with Emily and John and
the kids and Ryan Reynolds and Blake coming over and
he's being like, oh my risotta plan is ruined. So
I kind of think they're open. He thinks he's being
really like funny and dad joke about their.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Open I mean, unless he's just being dad joke in
general and they're not open, and he's just like, these
are just jokes. But I'm just like the amount of
them and the specificity of them, it's a lot, but
it's not that much, you know what I mean. It's
like there's she was.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Every page like, oh, yes, so Ryan Reynolds came over, Felicity.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Back, Yeah, you know, right. But it's like just these
three very specific instances of him being like she allegedly
went to Bordeaux with her girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Choose to believe it cursory peck.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, the peck at the end, it's like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But then also throughout the book he's like, oh, I
feel like which again is so celebrity. He's like, I
feel so at home, Like when in the first part
of the book he's like staying in a hotel he
hates in Italy, and it's like filming.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
With Isabella Roussolini. Ralph finds and they're in this movie
called Conclave, which is coming. I just saw an ad
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It looks so good and it's like Priests.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's Priests and it's just like a torrid thriller about
the Catholic Church and all these cardinals.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay. I saw the poster and I was like last night.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
When I was this looks like the best movie ever.
So DIMENTI code and.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He talks about like how the camera. Yeah, but he's
always like and I made Minnestrone to like eat in
my trailer. And then he's like, oh, Ralph and I
finally finally got to have dinner together.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then they be good friends. And he's like, you know,
it's hard to make good friends at this age. Oh,
because he's like, well, we'd worked together and made in Manhattan, oh,
twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That was amazing. That was like my first note because
I was like, finally we're actually talking about made of Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
We worked together before I made Manhattan over twenty years ago,
very briefly in The King's Man we'd only ever socialized
a few times, so Filmy gave us the opportunity to
spend time. When I one that era early two thousand,
Stanley two, she played like gay coded straight men who
were like communications assistants.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Den Laware's Prada.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
In Made Manhattan, he plays Ralph Kine, who is a
Republican senator. He plays his like head of.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Colm who's like annoyed at Jennifer Lopez's son and is
so just like you better get out of here.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Right, and it's just like make sure that she's not
a Democrat, because we can't have that in the news
in the New York Post, thank you very much. And
then in del War's Prada, he's just like Gerda Lloins
and it's just like gay but not. And this is
also why he's every mom's dream, because hello, he's.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Gay, but not just to gay enough for them to
be like, ugh, I wish my husband would care about
Marino Wool I mean, and like he's so like Codliver.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
He's like one of those like illustrated birthday cards for women.
Oh they're like.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Takes me out to dinner, wears fine suits. Right, it's
just like buys me back.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You got me on. It's like a man with like
a hot body like in a vacuum being just like sweetie,
like I just cleaned the living room. And then just
like I thought I'd get you something that didn't exist
for your birthday like he is that.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean his like first breakout roll of Big Night,
which I remember watching a young Italian American and you know,
it's about the two Italian brothers who opened a restaurant
in New York, and this line really stuck with me
and some One of the most famous lines is he
serves this American couple of posta meatballs and they asked
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for bread, and he phillips his ass on them, and
he's being so like you are having pasta, you don't
also inneed of bread. And then in that movie they
make which I've only made once, timpanello, which is like
pasta pie. It's crazy and it takes all day and
it's a meat sauce but it's like ravioli, but it's
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layers and you're baking it and it's pastry.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I want to talk about food a little bit more.
There's a really great passage where he is making a
tomato and he goes, luckily it was a tomato that
actually tasted like a tomato. Like so many vegetables these days,
tomatoes often taste of nothing. When did that start happening?
Things used to taste like what they were. Now something
that looks like a tomato or a carrot tastes like
just a thought of those things and fruit of vegetables
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organic they usually taste better, but not always. I remember
pulling carrots on my grandfather's garden and the depth of
flavor being profound. It was the same with everything you grew,
from onions to plums. I think he's dead right, and
I think there are so many gross tomatoes and we've
actually become so accustomed to the tasteless tomato that we
forget what a real tomatoes post.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, it's because of our American desire to have food
all year round, but it's also I feel conservatives.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So it's your right that it's like, so we have
least tomatoes in February there shitty, but it's like then
you can go to the supermarket in July and still
get those shitty tomatoes for sale. It's like they're doing
February tomato.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
That's why you do, like have to go to like
the farmers market to get a tomato that tastes like
a tomato. I mean, I feel like most of the
time a farmer's market tomato is pretty good. And that's
what was my Stanley Tucci moment today where I had
this last of the summer tomato and I was reading
this book and I was like, I need to use
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this tomato right now because Stanley Tucci would. So I
cut up the rest of the half. I saw tata
with garlic, ginger scallions, and then I took leftover Chinese
food rice and made a tomato ginger fried rice, little
sesame oil, a little soy sauce that sounds so and
just threw an egg in there and just left it
on the stove for Felicity to have later. My literary
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age that if so kind of you, what's gonna happen
in the tomato? If not, it will go?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, it will absolutely go. I used tomato is about
to go. This morning I made it delicious, delicious sandwich
with boar's head.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ham the stereo vibes.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
One raw red on the thick slice of tomato and
then defrosted Portuguese bread that was in a freezer.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, I mean this is another thing of I mean
food and also British food versus us. So he buys
beef and his parents are visiting and as they call
it mince and his mom is freaking out, being like
this beef is too lean.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
He acts like he's out of petrol.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I'm like, bitch, no, calm down.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
He's just like And of course in America, you guys
call it a backyard, but we prefer the term garden.
It's so much nicer. I'm like, wee bitch, real it the.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Fucking noll and like mar Worchester or whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I love that when he encounters food he doesn't like,
he just literally doesn't eat it. Yes, he's like. We
were on a weird like boat cruise dinner for the
Oppenheimer France premiere and they served some like god awful aspera.
Guess I had one minus that I can't do it.
I'm gonna go talk to Killian Murphy instead. But I
think it's like something that maybe you and I could
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do a little bit more, because I do feel like when.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Food is I was like, I need to be throwing
we don't like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It, we're just eating it, and it's like, no, just
don't eat food you don't like. Ever, just be politely declined.
Thank you for saying that, because insulting, like, just don't
eat it.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I also love the gastro pub disaster. Oh my god,
he's so honest about when a mule shitty.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Haven't we all been there?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But it was a rather lovely, upscale, cozy place that
have received several accolades over the years. So it's being
so like getting like the best of the Cotswalds or whatever.
It's like in this Redom.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, it felt a very Amtrak magazine where it's like
the Sunday Roast is like, oh, you just go to
whatever pub. But then are there are these like famous.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Elevated gastro pub that's like this chef is returning to
his hometown and he.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Is using and they're being kind of the bear and
they're like they're actually making an elevated.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Shirt trying to tie so bare. But like says, they
were trying to do it like a spin on the classics,
and it had spun out of control. We were all
very excited, but then things took a bit of a turn.
Our food was delayed for an inordinate amount of time
because the customer had spilled beer with a computer system.
In fact, we'd only learned about on our departure. The
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kids who came straight away, I guess their order having
been put in pre spill. As we waited and waited
and waited, we did find it strange that no staff
never ever alerted that's that there would be a delay,
or explain what had happened. We kept asking our service
for the food, only to be told that they would
check on it. But I guess they never really checked
because they would disappear yet again from their fifteen minutes.
After we've been waiting an hour and a half, the
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food finally came. I had hack with sampfire, which probably
took all of seven minutes to cook. It was just okay.
Other people had other things like meat, but I was
too irritated to care. In the end, the owner's apologies
were tipid at best, and he didn't do what any
good restaurant ur would do, which is not charged for
the wine or the dessert or something by way of
compensating us for the long wait. In Italy they would overcome.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
No, that is crazy that they didn't get a free
round of drinks.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
It's so that I'm just like just the drinks, the dessert,
not the whole meal.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But hour forty five minutes obscene? What in here that
he makes?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Do you want to make mm, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well you think on that. For me, it's the historic
goose ragu He's in a town owned by the design
of Brunella Cucinelli, and it's like this historic goose ragou
that I guess it's like clergymen would always be eating goose,
and like one day a year they let the peasants
have goose. So the peasants as a full town put
(38:56):
all these goose into these communal ovens and made like
a goo bolonaise.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
So do you want to do your own goosebulans or
do you want to do it with your whole community.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I think I want to do my community. I think
it's more like about like, yeah, community of everyone roasting
goose because the bolonnai is to make it last longer.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Two things I want to do. One is he just
makes a tomato sandwich at one point, but he's like,
oh no, he missed a tomato pasta. It's like a
taglia tel for like I don't know Colin for than Emily. Yeah,
And he's like, I had these really good in season tomatoes,
but he lets them sit in alive our own salt in
the fridge for two hours first and then just throws
them raw into the pasta when the pasta's done. I
(39:39):
want to do that.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, it's too bad and honestly sad for you because
we're almost out of tomato season, so have fun with
your associated tomatoes like raw hard bland. I think, oh,
this was a beautiful quote, which I think we should
all buy by it. Like he is just being like
passaba tomatoes and like a risotto and a fish and
a salad, which is.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Also is not He makes risotto constantly, and he has
his nice patch where he talks about like how difficult
it is, like I've never cooked risota successfully. It's one
of the hardest things to do. He's like, you need
to have such a sixth sense for it. I'm still
learning after all these years. Like, but I'm impressed that
he's constantly throwing together I know I want.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
To do it more. And he says this word that
I learned in this book that I love, this Italian
word mentakato, which is mean when you turn off the
heat of the pasta and then you add the cheese
and the button and then that's when you stir it
with the.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Pasta water on it, and you let the heat of
the pasta itself.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Cook it cook because the heat of the pan will
add too much heat. Of course, I actually learned that
from Mari Potalley. My idea of Fred One celebrity moment
of his celebrity dinners that I found so funny is it?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And I just want to say, of course it's crass
to talk about celebrities again.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of course, and I'm not trying to name drop here
at all. Is when Sam the famous play right an
actor Sam hell is his name whatever, he at the
last minute is like, oh can I bring friends over?
And Stanley Tucci is like he always does this, and
the friend is like Woody Harrelson and sircial Ronan, Oh
(41:13):
do He'd already planned on having over. And then the
friend is like, I'm gonna come over early. And this
is the point where Stanley Tucci is really costplaying. It
was like a stressed father and he's been like me
and Fear are still in our workout gear, the kids
aren't Bathe like, I haven't even stalked my bar with
like child martini glasses. And then he's like, oh and
the friend is like kind of come over early, and
he gets like really mad and he's like go to
(41:35):
a fucking bar and the friend is like, put it's raining,
and he texts back just like it doesn't rain in bars.
And then they come over and he was like, oh,
I was so excited to cook for Sirsha because I
hadn't cooked for her ever. And he was like and
Woody was hilarious, and I was so glad to beat
his new wife.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I mean that's where he is like so gay. But
I guess also metrosexual is like my kitchen needs to
be sparklean, clean. Yeah, it is this cosplay where's like
pretending like they can't see the kid, like eating cheerios
and it's just.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Like but I think his advice at the end of
that was just like have it be clean, have barstock
with wine, something for a groani, something from martiniz. You
don't need to call back to our original Zoe episode
of last week. You don't need whiskey, gin ruquila, say everything.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Just have the elements for martinis and you're trying to
go take a great and pretend please.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
And for those non drinking folks, Sam Pellegrino will go
just fine at the Square to Flemn.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
This book is really you know, and the related thoughts.
It is like a lot about death and aging, which
is quite beautiful, and he has a lot to think
about because he's in his sixties and his wife is
twenty years younger, so it's like really in his mind,
and he has these kind of very poignant ways of
talking about it, like when he talked about how he
is like now thinking about death a lot more because
(42:53):
he realized he has twenty years to go, and twenty
years is amount of time that like he can really
wrap his head around. Yeah, that really spoke to me
because I was like, we are and at the age
of thirty seven, say loud and proud, you know, I've
maybe got forty fifty years left, and it's like I've
never experienced forty or fifty years. I can't really maybe I.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Don't know what twenty that just twenty is, and.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Like I kind of know what like a thirty year
chunk is too, Like I mean twenty years ago, like
that was yesterday, literally thirty years ago still feels like
like kind of getting it.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The scariest part to me that made me feel like
really fear death, which he talked about now that he
lives in England and like has his new family is
He's like, I can't see these friends that I spent
so much time with before, and he was like, if
you think about that, I'm actually probably only going to
see some of these people ten more times in my life.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Oh yeah, but that's more like when you're so serious
and straight and like organizing really seriously.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That could we could be sixty, it's like not gonna
be us, and like we both are on our third
marriages with like four year olds, and I'm just like, oh,
I would love to meet you, like in Dingley.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Next fall.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The same time, he's hanging out with like Colin Firth
and like Lotty his manager like constantly knowing like you're
hanging more than no, and.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They're going like he's going to the River Cafere with
Tom Ford and then he's like and I won't tell
you what we discussed, and I'm like, you guys are
notingly discussing your open marriages and yeah, I'm like wool
with this one passage where he meets the guy whose
wife died. This fan who comes up to him, Oh yeah,
and like says that his wife had recently passed, and
he's like his hand shook a bit when he took mine,
(44:30):
to which he held on tightly. I recognized the shaking
was from age as well as nervousness, but I also
knew that it was brought about by a flood of
emotion as he held my hand. I knew that the
very real and visceral feeling of her presence. So he's
talking about how like the wife is there brought about
by this moment, an experience they would have shared where
she's so alive would weigh in over time, But he
could not know this then did he need to? That
(44:52):
realization and knowledge was years ahead of him. Yet her
presence at times such as these would never disappear completely.
It would always be there, always, but soon it would
become less prevalent. In time, her presence would slip into
his body, his heart and thoughts, sometimes gently, sometimes joltingly,
but it would never last for as long as it
would today. Eventually, years from now, it would a light
(45:14):
on the tip of his soul for just a second
or two, carrying with it a shiver of the past,
a glimpse of a future that might have been, and
then it would disappear once again. Isn't that so beautiful?
And of course he's talking about his own dead wife,
Kate Kate while talking about using this man as sort
of And.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
That's the other thing, whether or not to go back
as we close this episode, about moving on or not.
I think this book is a lot about like, Okay,
you also can like get remarried and like still be grieving.
Yes not, you know, just cut and dry. Obviously there
are harsher situations like John Edwards.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, and his monster of a way you see rest
in Hell.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
But you can have a beautiful open marriage with a
younger literary yes, and still grieve.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
And still grieve here and there, and then have these
little precious moments where your wife's presence enters your soul
for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Maybe you think about texting Eadie Falco just randomly watching
an episode of The Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
They've put the kids to bed after their pasta, and
then they're just like season three segments with extra virgin
olive oil and bistecca ala Fiorentina. What does she wear?
Speaker 2 (46:39):
What does she eat? How does what does she eat?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Pasta? Pasta hotel, the hotel, SA Sausage Joes shrim I
mean he has a very savory palette, as is the
custom today with the cool kids. Oh, very classic modern
(47:02):
contemporary Mediterranean palette. It's like because he says he's not
a big dessert person.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well he also says like, I'm he's not being like
I'm going to try to like cook like Tetobalki tonight,
Like he's just like I stick to like what I know.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, He's like, maybe I'm actually being like too fearful
and I need to get out of my comfort zone
and try to cook Asian food more. But then I
worry I wouldn't have the freedom to kind of adjust
that I.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Feel with which that part was so smart, and we
need to move fast. But it's like you have to
really know a cuisine.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
To know if it needs a little bit more garlic, oh,
if it needs like you know, any It's kind of
where it's like with Chinese food Malaysian food he'sn't known to.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Do also, which we didn't even mention throughout this entire book.
This book is also about how he had like a
tongue tumor and it was like couldn't taste which.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, but well he discusses that in his previous book
Taste Right, and so he can be like, as I
mentioned in my previous book, and I won't go into two.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Much because I'm in a book to He can't really
do much meat. That's why it is a lot of fishing.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Because he doesn't like produce as much saliva, yeah, which
is also why he isn't like love as Tannic reds,
and so he prefers the Northern Italian red, which I
still find has a lovely tan in to it. Because
he's talking about how he's like instead of those like
Central Italian like super big, multiple giano whatever that people
like I love, who is like men usually want big reds,
(48:24):
but you know, and he was like absolutely a Northern Italian.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
He realizes that other new metrosexuals don't like a huge
and their big yeah, don't like big cabs.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, and they like you know, the natty natty one.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
And the only time he drinks tequila is at the beginning.
Oh no, he doesn't even he makes a paloma, but
he does it with jam.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That part was so weird when he was like, Felicity
introduced me to this very interesting new drink called a paloma.
I know. I was like, I'm like, what I think
is the only Diagio like ambassador. You don't know about
polomas and.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Then they tequila when Blake and Ryan come over, of
course because like celebrity, even though Ryan owns a gin company.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, and like Stanley Tucci's a Gin ambassador. Yeah, but
they're just being like, we're both celebrities. We have so
we have to like to.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
What does he wear? He wears like when it's casual,
it's like a stunning Laura Piana.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Like Keanna he is keeping the lights on over there
at the piano store, and it's.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like what you said, like you know, at the farmer's market,
a Stunningneker. Yeah, and like a beautiful again like Bruno
Chanelli or like a Zenya pant Or. It's like a
suit made by like a stunning tailor he met in
search for Italy.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
And then how does he live? Like Okay, here's the question.
What are the countertops? Are they? I think are they marble?
I think it's marble. And I think his house is
kind of dark. Okay, yes, for sure, it's like dark
remanded colors. I mean his house like I feel like,
does look like a boutiqu Kota and like there is
a lot of like dark colors in the dark greens
and like the black window panes.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
And he's always like making his cocktails like in a
sidebar where there's so many espresso pods.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
However, I guess I'm like, marble countertops are harder to clean, and.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I'm like, do you think he's doing something more simple
because with the kids and like chopping.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Like it would be so sexy if you had like
butcher block countertops.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
But maybe he talks about being really jealous of David
Beckham's outdoor kitchen, but he.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Also has this massive outdoor kitchen with this crazy grill
and like pizza ovens.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
I know, but he's like, it's not like backs. We
always want something more yea, And I feel like it's
like a navy blue velvet couch.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I definitely think there's plenty of jewel tones in there.
I think you're right about the darker hues. Okay, here's
my question. How present is the ex wife framed black
and white photos frame like on the cape?
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Well, because also it's like for the kids, well, I
guess the older kids aren't really there. They're like trying
to be makeup artists. Yeah, I think it's like one
framed family photo with the ex wife not just.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Wife solo, no solo dead wife.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
And then it's like some photos of them, and then
I think it is like but.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
They're like I think there's like a bowl they got
on a trip to Japan together that's prominently displayed and
it's known. It's like no one says it's Kate's ball,
but we all know it's.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Kate's ball, and Felicity is of like, oh, I love
Kate's bowl. You know, I love Kate's bowl. I think
it's a low bed. I think it's glassy, medium low bed.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
I think it's medium low.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
He's sixty.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
But then I'm like, actually, maybe it's not even medium low.
It actually may be high in a hotel way.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
And like just so many shit because also like British
and British they don't do lost.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They are like high beds over there, and they're like
clutter out the who and like she's not so cluttered,
but like she's little cutter.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Might be a little cluttery, a lid agent agent. And
there's books, pile, bridget shone stuff.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah. I think there's like their reception area where calling
Furth is having martinis is free of chargers, but it's
Charaguers Central. Once you're get into the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Well, and then there's like the whole part about like
how much gadget and iguana. I think there's there's air fires.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
Right, there is so many fucking gadgets. Yeah, obviously there's
mains that are putting the gadgets away, but then the
gadgets are coming out, and there's charging pads and charging
stations and like there's an iPod doc that's.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
So like Hotels iPad doc yeah, for recipes, and like
I'm almost just at this point, I'm like, there's the
Bows five disc. I mean there isn't, but it's so
nose up in that house. And he's like, because.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
There's at one point where he's playing music off his phone.
He's like, I played the Great American Songbook off my
phone and put it in a cup to amplify it.
I really need to get a speaker because he's so gadget.
He's like, I need an amazing and then like Nicol
Christmas idea.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, it's like getting him a JBL and it's very parently.
They're like getting him like the wrong speaker and no
one can connect and it's yeah, so Christmas, I mean
they're like, Okay, deconnect, Okay, try connecting again. Okay, who
are you in the book?
Speaker 1 (53:16):
It's Christmas around the clock over there.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I mean to me, I'm Stanley in your Felicity, and
I'm just gonna be like, I guess I won't ask
about like where.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
You weren't born to I mean, you're married to a
little agent though you're a Wifelicity.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Oh oh that she's more Felicity, but it is not
involved in the who are you? No she is. No,
It's like, well, that's why I feel like i'm standing
because I'm like also married to a lit agent, right, and.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
You think I'm going on a trip and my husband's
just been like, I guess I won't ask.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, though, I guess you're also just like Harry's styles
coming over for dinner.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
And I'm so nice and we love him. He's such
a good friend.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You're also just like Emily Blunt. You're getting together.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Emily, and you're like, I can't believe you didn't tell me.
You're stopping my system. Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I love going over that, And then I'm being like, oh,
I think it's time for us to leave.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Okay, and it's time just to end this episode. Dollars.
I get this straight up, yeah, wild Garlic.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
I love a diary. I think it's so much more
revealing than a traditional memoir.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
It is because if someone was writing a memoir, he
wouldn't say felicity under coach scallops.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
No, you get that in diary.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm giving this yeah for under non seared scallops.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And it's quite inspiring.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
And and he's being honest. How he doesn't trust his
own line of quickwear, and that's what you get in diary.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
I don't trust it either. It's all, yeah, seven hundred dollars.
It's look really expensive. I mean I guess it should be,
but I'm just like the world need another like non
coded ceramic. And he knows that, Yeah, he knows. Sorry, Bye,
My Mommy, My Mommy is a broadcast was a produced
(55:10):
the Vidarb Master, a supervising producer.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
Hell Laura.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
The podcast is done by the pizzolo here Christina Ever
she makes a beautiful marinera simple little carrot on in Basil.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
And the French shirt is that a sound engineer and
also a producer.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
The theme song is a Sicilian recording artist Steve as
Her Phillips Horst is the old folks singer.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
And there is just a one tiny illegal matter that
my lawyer makes me say. That is La Monte Prolagos,
a tiny office in Genoa. They do a nice job,
beautiful and the artwork was known by Daddy Blanks and
(56:05):
he studied the Institute the Fordma Michelangelo.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
If you want to follow us and give us your lira,
go to Patreon dot concerts.
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