March 11, 2024 • 22 mins
Hi everyone! I had the pleasure of having one of my favorite cousins, Karina, come on the pod this week to talk about our childhood. Join us as we reminisce about how things were and where things stand in our family. I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as we did!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everyone, and welcome to your favorite podcast, She gets
in Chill. I hope that you're having a beautiful week.
If it is Monday and you know you're watching this
on Monday, it will be have an amazing week and
neither day. Honestly, thank you for tuning in, either if
you're listening or watching. Thank you so much. I am
very excited today because I have a very special guest,
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someone that needs a lot to meet, someone that I've
been wanting to have on my podcast for a very
long time. And I have my little pew carts here,
but I don't think I'm even going to use them.
And she's a family member. And her name is Karina
Rivera Nabarrow. Everybody say hat to be cut in. So
(00:43):
this is my cousin. We're two years apart, right because
it's two years apart, and she is. For those of
you who are familiar with their family, she is my
mom's brother, Will Stravel. So there's Pete, my uncle Gus,
then my mom, then my dear little Bee well and Rosie.
So this is my uncle who, that's daughter who my
(01:05):
theo guys I love very much. I have to actually
bring them on the pod. You guys. I think it
would be a very yeah, it would be a very
great freaking conversation. But I thought it'd be nice to
bring my cousin because this is I'm gonna say it,
and I don't want her anyone's feelings, but this is
my favorite cousin. She's been my favorite cousin since Ford.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We have the favorites, you know, forever. We just we
grew up together. This was I was explaining, you know,
I was only able to spend the night at two
people's houses if it was at the HS house and
the AS house.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So that was that's who you Yeah, yep, And same year,
we spent a lot of time together. Yeah, and Trey
is my mom. That's what they call my mom, Chay
the family, and and yeah, my mom would only let
me spend the night at you know, Patty at the
Obus's house. So we did a lot of summers together,
and we grew up together, and we've lived through a lot,
you guys. So we're gonna talk about a lot of things,
(01:57):
because we didn't even really talk much about what we're
going to talk and we have the few cards here,
but I just want to let the conversation flow and
and you're married, cousin, so it was okay, that's say
in tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
One thing I will tell you, and I think i've
told you this, cousin, is that I'm so grateful because
you were one of the few people that stood by
me during that time that my mom and all were sorry. Yeah,
she were very pissed.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I was, and I mean one of the last messages
that I got to message with you know, your mom
was like, you know, you got to talk to this lady.
I always felt like I was able to tell her like.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Lady like no, yeah, that's what it was. Figgure right
now because my mom would always say, and when I
was younger, they should work with my feelings. I'm not
evenna lie, but my mom would say, why can't you
be like your cousin Karna. She she should have been
my daughter because she's smart, because you've always gotten straight a's,
because you've been good in school. She's a reader. She
(02:53):
would get straight a's. And I'm I'm gonna lie. I
was I was a C student. I was like, I'm
gonna just get by.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
These students are bosses.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Thank you, cousin. It used to hurt my feelings, I'm like, Mom,
how can you say that? She's like, yeah, I have
some dumb ass kids and they sure, now, no, we're
doing other thing. But yes, my cousin, he's always been
very intelligent. You're very smart, straight A student, like, that's
one thing my mom was, you guys had a very
nice and unique relationship because you were one of the
(03:22):
few people that can also tell her hey, I don't
agree with that thea.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Again, I would never say disrespectful because I know she
would cuss me out or yah to me.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But talking about her cussing us out, do you want
to tell everyone about that time that she beat around?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yes, that is like.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
My favorite story to tell because it was in November.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was Jackie's birthday and we were going to it
was Tracky Cheese and Lakewood and Cheeks was like, let's
go see Junior and I was like he was my
little boyfriend. Yeah, I guess her boyfriend at the time.
And we were down the street and Cheeks was like, okay,
let's see her. Mom's key and I just worked at
(04:01):
all the times. I was like, you know, I felt
I was like, we can get cat.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I was like it doesn't matter. Okay, let's say took
the keys on my back.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We went and my mom called my the cell phone
that was in there or whatever, and I.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Was like, oh my god, we're gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And yeah, right when we were over there, they started calling. Well,
we got back to the chirky cheese, shaggy cheese. My
bianche was like, let's go for a ride. She took
my mom's car.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was at eighty seven Mercedes, I'll never bring it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And she parked and she like, you know, she slept
us around.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, this was before all this. Yeah, it was a
thing you guys that you should not do this in
touch your children. I'm probably if she was here, she
would have cared. Now, always the type of mom would
be like, I tell him it's cool that I kicked dressing.
Oh yeah, oh yeah Dan yeah no game.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So then she you know, can tra us And then
she made us saying to Jackie saying you having birthday
to her and you better be up yes or so
there we are like cheeks, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Holding back tears.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm holding back to yours because I'm like pissed and
I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I got in trouble and it's all my fault because
then I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then two weeks after that, to eat your mom
calls the house and she has to talk to me.
She's like, Mayhan, She's like, are you still mad at me?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was like no.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She's like, okay, what are you off for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And that was oh my mom, you know that was
my cousain. Just she's like, she's probably like I want
to say no to this girl. But all right, here
we go. Oh my gosh, kids don't do that. Okay, yeah,
listen to your parents. Please listen to your parents. But okay,
now get into something a little bit more serious. This
is a question that I don't think I've asked you,
but I want to ask you. How what have you
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felt about me not using the last day of Rivera
because you are Rivera? But like one, you could be
straight up like how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, listen, it didn't bother me. I don't feel
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Was an issue.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I understand, Like why because at one point in our
lives having the last name Rivera was such an honor
and you decided that to use that. I was like,
you know, that's that's that's fine. Like she stands on
her own, like she could do it on her own. So,
you know, I think it was good because everybody knows
(06:27):
you as Cheeky's not like you know, cheeee Rivera Cheekys,
so they know like you. I personally wasn't offended. I
know maybe some people in our family might have been offended.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
By that, but yeah, yeah, because I've gotten that question
a lot. And it's not that I didn't want to
use it. It's just I've always I've always been Jenny Marine, yeah,
no matter what my dad did. Yeah, I've always held
on to that. Last year, I never felt the need
to change it. I mean, Mikey feels different, which I respect.
Did Mikey changes He has it legally, but he wants
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to and he wants to also, like you know, change
his daughter's last names. And I don't know, if I'm
talking too much, you will probably be upset with me.
But that's what I know. I don't think he's done
it yet. He wants him to be Rivera, and I'm
fine with that. I respect everyone's dicisies, you know how
I am. I just I always was like, Okay, I
want to be known as cheeky's and not that I'm
not proud of my mother and everything. Yeah she accomplished,
(07:21):
but not because I'm like, oh, I'm descending my dad's
last name. It's just more of like who I am. Yeah,
I know what I mean. And now that all this
stuff has happened in our family, to be honest, I
feel better about it. Yeah, I'm like, to be honest,
I'm like, I don't not that I don't want to
be associated because that's my family regarded as that's my
blood regardless, and I never wish to anything bad like
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at all, but I just don't. There's a lot of
things that I don't agree with and all like things
that have happened that just I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I completely I completely agree him. Yeah, you're not
wanting to fold on to that. You know, it's completely
relevant because, like you said, everything that has happened, especially
in the past eleven years, has been a motherfucking a lot.
It has had a lot to process still, So there's
day a lot to process, a lot to heal, a
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lot of still grief, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Jennakan that said, at the end of day, it's a cycle.
It's not linear.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's like some dings are cool, and then some days
you're like, what this is really life? This is not
what I had envisioned or when we were growing up,
or how our dynamics were as far as our family dynamics,
never expected things to.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Churn out how they were.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But then you you adjust, you learn to deal with
to kind of like re learn how to relive, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I'm not going to say that it was always
all bad. There was always a lot of things in
our family that happened that you and I would talk about,
what little yeah, behind closed doors and it's just like,
I don't know, this is a little weird. Yeah, A
lot of things, a lot of jealousy, a lot of
stuff that we would notice when we were cloyers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well we're teenagers, and I would ask you like, is
this like, am I seeing things from a weird point
of view? Or you know, or you see kind of
what I'm seeing That we did see a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I was like, No, a lot of jealousy amongst the women.
It was a lot of jealousy amongst women. And I'm
sure a lot of the people that are listening or
watching can relate, you know. I think this happens a
lot in many families. It's just our family happens to
be a famous one or a very successful one or
whatever you want to call it. But this is stuff
that we've noticed for a very long time. I think
we just knew how to hide it, or there wasn't
(09:37):
social media or you know, all this stuff. But there
were moments that we had great Christmases together.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
There were time when we lived off of Illu streeted
Long Beach at Grandma's house and for Christmas, Oh, he
had it there, and you know, and Grandma and Grandpa
were still together, and they would give us I can
see as you remember that they you know, and we
would break them and they would make us box, you
guys in the hard, boxing each other. I had a
box Doorna. She beat my ass every time. And then
(10:05):
my mom passed and I was one of the main pillars,
I think in her family.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And that's when I realized that this now, I really
realized that, like, damn, my aunt really held this family together.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you start processing now you're like, damn, like this
is not what I thought my family was. Like you said,
I love a family. I didn't never wish about it
will or nothing like that. It's just not what I
thought what happened exactly. I thought it was gonna make
people closer. I thought it was gonna make you know.
I was like, you know, I love being on the
(10:41):
sidelines and seeing you know, like you cousin doing your singing,
You're seeing other people doing their thing them. I was like,
you know, awsome be fabulous.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, it's been pretty crazy. And I realized and I
always knew that my mom was a pillar because I
saw how people would look for her and how she
was needed financially. Yeah, it's just the truth. Whether people
want to admit it or not, the truth is I
saw and I lived it at first. So many conversations,
(11:10):
my mom told me so many things. She helped out
a lot of people going back to so this whole
thing I did realize that who my mom was in
the family was that my mom would tell people straight up,
like she would not put up with anyone's book. Yeah, no,
(11:31):
she didn't. And if something was wrong, she would see it.
She would either write you an email. She loved that emails,
you know, but she would let it be old, you know,
and she'd be like, this is what's going on, and
this is why I'm moving to Corona. And I don't
agree with this, that's why. That's why we moved to
Corona because of Grandpa and his affair. Okay, that's why.
Because I don't know if you remember, growing up, we
(11:53):
were all at like in a certain radius. Everyone had
to be either in loam, beat your thing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It couldn't be too far.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So it was like this family thing. Yeah, and my
mom said, f this, I'm gonna be the first one
to move away. Yeah, because I was so disappointed and
so hurt that my grandpa was having an affair with
a woman that was her age. I was having a baby.
She was distraught. She just was like, that's my daddy
like coming so our family. Mom was so distorted. She
just said, f this, I'm leaving, And from there she
(12:21):
started happening. Yeah, you know, it was already kind of Yeah.
And I'm not trying to judge my grandpa. I don't
agree with a lot of things. I still love my grandpa.
I left my grandpa through it, but that's the truth,
you know, And I think it did Hyperrito, mister Burrito,
and I'm missing him. I haven't talked to him in
so long. You know, it's it's real mest up all
this stuff that's happening. But there's again there's a lot
of stuff that I don't agree with. Yeah, but that's
(12:43):
when we moved away and my mom would just say
how it is, and I when she was no longer there,
there was like no authority. Yeah. Then I think that's
when it was that everything was chaotic and they're missing
of course they're missing their daughter, they're missing their sister.
Like it's such a huge law. It was a world
our family that it just everything that was chaos. Yeah.
(13:03):
You know, for a long time I was very like
considered of that and compassionate about everyone's feelings. But then
it gets to a point where you're like I can't
excuse that. I'm sorry no matter what. Yeah, you still
got to act right because yeah, my mom's like here physically,
but she still watched it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And that's that's one thing is like that my aunt
was my aunt.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I respected my aunt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I knew that lady did not play and I just
knew that a lot of things that have happened was
in his past eleven years.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
My aunt was still near that would not ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Ever, not a word would have came out of people's mouth,
not certain actions.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I just know that for sure. That's one thing I
will say. Mam was an amazing provis was a great mom.
We had a relationship that we were sisters and they
were just so so close, but we loved each other
so much. Honestly, I think I can go to my
mom for anything. It's our mom, Simon, so I want
and she would get it from me. Because right now
I remember the Buddy which she surprised me with that
car yet you know it was blue. Yeah, you know
(14:06):
it's a vertical verto. It had just came out. Yeah,
it was two early two thousand early two. I think
it was two thousand and three somebody. Yeah, right, I
think you are what for your sixteenth birthday problem? Now,
huh something like that? Oh my mama. But now that
we're talking about all this and that you know that
it's true you lived through everything with me, cousin, even
during that time though we had talked a little bit
(14:27):
at the end of the day, like it wasn't even
that much. We have not been there. You've been there
with me. And I heard this comment the other day,
and I'm not gonna say where or who said it,
but I'm sure you guys will know. But they set
something down the lines of that I was such a
nice girl. I was so nice, and that fame got
to me, that fame changed me, that I'm a different
(14:48):
personnel and it's the people that surround me that have
changed me. Honestly, Cousin, say it how it is, whatever
it is that you may think, I want you to
tell me. Know what do you think about that? Now?
I think sometimes you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Need to be more of a bit, you know, because
you know, cheeks, You've always been, always looked at people,
seeing the good siding people.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You don't like to.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Cause problems, you don't like to you know, certain frictions.
So I think that sometimes you need a babitch. But no,
I don't think fame has gotten to you in any way,
shape or form, thing and everybody just because I see you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Know you're my cousin.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I it's thirty six years of you know, even my cousin,
I see you the same, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I really don't feel that I'm saying fame because I don't.
I don't I know people know me. I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like when they said that. I was like, what, like,
I what happened is that I'm not that that naive yeah,
global little girl that I used to be, that you
could just manipulate.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I was just when I when I heard that the
other day, I was like, Okay, well, everyone is entitled
to their own opinion. It's fine. No memory is that.
It's just I have changed. I have changed in a
way of if I'm saying the same person and I'm
not really, yeah, I'm not evolving. Yeah, of course I changed. Yes, yeah,
I have changed. I'm not the same person I was.
I'm more mature. I could say that I'm smarter, I'm wiser.
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Do you still talk to any of our eccentifics?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I haven't, cousin, I'm like the uh, the rose, will
you know, reach out and say happy birthday here you know,
here in there, But to have conversations might have have
no for me. My separation of our.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Family was back in like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
There was a specific situation that I was just like,
and this is something that you had no control over,
or that you needed to fix or my other cousins
needed to fix. No, this was sort of like the
pillars of our family that needed to fix situations and
they never got fixed. So I just knew that it
was not ever.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Going to give six. You've always been very good with
being a risk backful kind of like you know, which
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And I did stay my peace so too to my
the roves and and they want to say, you know,
this is not okay or what I feel is I
don't agree with certain Yeah this is and how not
how our family's supposed to be. And I, you know,
never be just. I was not respectful, but I just
said my peace, and you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And you know what I I don't really talk to
anyone else other than honestly. I would love to have
a better relationship with all my cousins. I I've always
said this from the very beginning. You know, I don't
want the kids, the cousins to get involved in all this,
you know all and that's something that you and I
would always say, Yeah, I want us to be different
(17:44):
from the elders. You know. I was like, I don't
want to find with my cousins.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, and even with your the dynamics with your siblings.
I remember you said, I don't want to be like
how our our you know my mom is with you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Her siblings. Yeah, you know it's my it's my job
as the eldest, and that promise I make to my
mom that way, I'm gonna try my best to no job,
leave you. I continue to do great job. And you
just put the moffuckers in the line that have to do.
And you know those ups.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And downs are always gonna happen. Yeah, and us, we're
always gonna fight with our siblings or with their family members.
But there's there's a lie. There's a lie. And I
feel some people don't don't see those wife they just yep,
they don't. They don't respect boundaries. So you know, you know,
And one thing I will say about my deal Gus Yo.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yo, daddy, I love him, I will say and I'll
say this and I've said it many times. And I
have to take away anything from anyone else but my
deal Gus has been the only uncle since my mom
passed eleven years. We're going on twelve years, you guys
that he always says me and not I don't have
money to give you. You need twenty bucks, give you
(19:00):
twenty dollars. I ain't got more than that right now.
He says, I got I gotta take care of your dad, Patty,
and you know whatever, he's like, but he's there to
call me to bring me water free water of his
ALCOHOLI water and calls my siblings, checks up on us
at least once a week, if not once every two weeks.
But he has been consistent that I'm like I we
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all love him so much because of that, because no
matter what, he respects what we're doing. Yeah, he's like,
hey me, I heard that. You know this happened, And
I don't want to be nosy, but are you good.
He's always streaking on this. Yeah. He's a great father.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, my dad. I talked to my dad at
least children Candy. It's like so much my mom like
I do. I like, this is all carble. Yeah, I
love you know, burn up. I didn't have the great
relationship with my mom, and you know now it's so
much like great or not. And I understand I was
a pain the ass and I feel like because I
was always like what why are things like this?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What? You know? My mom always tells me because I
end the line. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was always like combat even becombatd in that sense
and made in school and you know whatever. But I
was always like a print of my mom's dads.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Do you feel that that changed your relationship with your
mom after you had kids? Yes, I felt more.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I understood because, like I said, I feel like I
was war between my brother and I was born like
the hot headed one like Hi, Like I wasn't out
fighting with people and some but I was always like one, why.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Aren't things is what you would ask questions?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yes, And my mom was like, because that's just howly honor.
She'd be liked, you didn't understand when you have kids
you would challenge her. Yes, And then I had keys
and I was like, I know what's talking about, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm very grateful because then he came on the podcast.
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All right, well, thank you cousin.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I love you, you wonderful cousin of my soul.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
My wonderful cousin if you if you ever need anyone
so they'll uplift you, is my cousin. I swear your
messages are the best. I'm like, oh, you make me laugh.
You're just You're just, You're just let a sunshine in
the world. But thank you guys so much for watching
this episode of Cheeky's and Chill. And I'll watch you guys,
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someone that needs a lot to meet, someone that I've
been wanting to have on my podcast for a very
long time. And I have my little pew carts here,
but I don't think I'm even going to use them.
And she's a family member. And her name is Karina
Rivera Nabarrow. Everybody say hat to be cut in. So
(00:43):
this is my cousin. We're two years apart, right because
it's two years apart, and she is. For those of
you who are familiar with their family, she is my
mom's brother, Will Stravel. So there's Pete, my uncle Gus,
then my mom, then my dear little Bee well and Rosie.
So this is my uncle who, that's daughter who my
(01:05):
theo guys I love very much. I have to actually
bring them on the pod. You guys. I think it
would be a very yeah, it would be a very
great freaking conversation. But I thought it'd be nice to
bring my cousin because this is I'm gonna say it,
and I don't want her anyone's feelings, but this is
my favorite cousin. She's been my favorite cousin since Ford.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
We have the favorites, you know, forever. We just we
grew up together. This was I was explaining, you know,
I was only able to spend the night at two
people's houses if it was at the HS house and
the AS house.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So that was that's who you Yeah, yep, And same year,
we spent a lot of time together. Yeah, and Trey
is my mom. That's what they call my mom, Chay
the family, and and yeah, my mom would only let
me spend the night at you know, Patty at the
Obus's house. So we did a lot of summers together,
and we grew up together, and we've lived through a lot,
you guys. So we're gonna talk about a lot of things,
(01:57):
because we didn't even really talk much about what we're
going to talk and we have the few cards here,
but I just want to let the conversation flow and
and you're married, cousin, so it was okay, that's say
in tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
One thing I will tell you, and I think i've
told you this, cousin, is that I'm so grateful because
you were one of the few people that stood by
me during that time that my mom and all were sorry. Yeah,
she were very pissed.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I was, and I mean one of the last messages
that I got to message with you know, your mom
was like, you know, you got to talk to this lady.
I always felt like I was able to tell her like.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Lady like no, yeah, that's what it was. Figgure right
now because my mom would always say, and when I
was younger, they should work with my feelings. I'm not
evenna lie, but my mom would say, why can't you
be like your cousin Karna. She she should have been
my daughter because she's smart, because you've always gotten straight a's,
because you've been good in school. She's a reader. She
(02:53):
would get straight a's. And I'm I'm gonna lie. I
was I was a C student. I was like, I'm
gonna just get by.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
These students are bosses.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Thank you, cousin. It used to hurt my feelings, I'm like, Mom,
how can you say that? She's like, yeah, I have
some dumb ass kids and they sure, now, no, we're
doing other thing. But yes, my cousin, he's always been
very intelligent. You're very smart, straight A student, like, that's
one thing my mom was, you guys had a very
nice and unique relationship because you were one of the
(03:22):
few people that can also tell her hey, I don't
agree with that thea.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Again, I would never say disrespectful because I know she
would cuss me out or yah to me.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But talking about her cussing us out, do you want
to tell everyone about that time that she beat around?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yes, that is like.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
My favorite story to tell because it was in November.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was Jackie's birthday and we were going to it
was Tracky Cheese and Lakewood and Cheeks was like, let's
go see Junior and I was like he was my
little boyfriend. Yeah, I guess her boyfriend at the time.
And we were down the street and Cheeks was like, okay,
let's see her. Mom's key and I just worked at
(04:01):
all the times. I was like, you know, I felt
I was like, we can get cat.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I was like it doesn't matter. Okay, let's say took
the keys on my back.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
We went and my mom called my the cell phone
that was in there or whatever, and I.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Was like, oh my god, we're gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And yeah, right when we were over there, they started calling. Well,
we got back to the chirky cheese, shaggy cheese. My
bianche was like, let's go for a ride. She took
my mom's car.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was at eighty seven Mercedes, I'll never bring it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And she parked and she like, you know, she slept
us around.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, this was before all this. Yeah, it was a
thing you guys that you should not do this in
touch your children. I'm probably if she was here, she
would have cared. Now, always the type of mom would
be like, I tell him it's cool that I kicked dressing.
Oh yeah, oh yeah Dan yeah no game.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So then she you know, can tra us And then
she made us saying to Jackie saying you having birthday
to her and you better be up yes or so
there we are like cheeks, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Holding back tears.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I'm holding back to yours because I'm like pissed and
I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I got in trouble and it's all my fault because
then I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And then two weeks after that, to eat your mom
calls the house and she has to talk to me.
She's like, Mayhan, She's like, are you still mad at me?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was like no.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
She's like, okay, what are you off for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And that was oh my mom, you know that was
my cousain. Just she's like, she's probably like I want
to say no to this girl. But all right, here
we go. Oh my gosh, kids don't do that. Okay, yeah,
listen to your parents. Please listen to your parents. But okay,
now get into something a little bit more serious. This
is a question that I don't think I've asked you,
but I want to ask you. How what have you
(05:52):
felt about me not using the last day of Rivera
because you are Rivera? But like one, you could be
straight up like how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, listen, it didn't bother me. I don't feel
like that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Was an issue.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I understand, Like why because at one point in our
lives having the last name Rivera was such an honor
and you decided that to use that. I was like,
you know, that's that's that's fine. Like she stands on
her own, like she could do it on her own. So,
you know, I think it was good because everybody knows
(06:27):
you as Cheeky's not like you know, cheeee Rivera Cheekys,
so they know like you. I personally wasn't offended. I
know maybe some people in our family might have been offended.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
By that, but yeah, yeah, because I've gotten that question
a lot. And it's not that I didn't want to
use it. It's just I've always I've always been Jenny Marine, yeah,
no matter what my dad did. Yeah, I've always held
on to that. Last year, I never felt the need
to change it. I mean, Mikey feels different, which I respect.
Did Mikey changes He has it legally, but he wants
(07:01):
to and he wants to also, like you know, change
his daughter's last names. And I don't know, if I'm
talking too much, you will probably be upset with me.
But that's what I know. I don't think he's done
it yet. He wants him to be Rivera, and I'm
fine with that. I respect everyone's dicisies, you know how
I am. I just I always was like, Okay, I
want to be known as cheeky's and not that I'm
not proud of my mother and everything. Yeah she accomplished,
(07:21):
but not because I'm like, oh, I'm descending my dad's
last name. It's just more of like who I am. Yeah,
I know what I mean. And now that all this
stuff has happened in our family, to be honest, I
feel better about it. Yeah, I'm like, to be honest,
I'm like, I don't not that I don't want to
be associated because that's my family regarded as that's my
blood regardless, and I never wish to anything bad like
(07:44):
at all, but I just don't. There's a lot of
things that I don't agree with and all like things
that have happened that just I'm like.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I completely I completely agree him. Yeah, you're not
wanting to fold on to that. You know, it's completely
relevant because, like you said, everything that has happened, especially
in the past eleven years, has been a motherfucking a lot.
It has had a lot to process still, So there's
day a lot to process, a lot to heal, a
(08:14):
lot of still grief, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Jennakan that said, at the end of day, it's a cycle.
It's not linear.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's like some dings are cool, and then some days
you're like, what this is really life? This is not
what I had envisioned or when we were growing up,
or how our dynamics were as far as our family dynamics,
never expected things to.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Churn out how they were.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
But then you you adjust, you learn to deal with
to kind of like re learn how to relive, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I'm not going to say that it was always
all bad. There was always a lot of things in
our family that happened that you and I would talk about,
what little yeah, behind closed doors and it's just like,
I don't know, this is a little weird. Yeah, A
lot of things, a lot of jealousy, a lot of
stuff that we would notice when we were cloyers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well we're teenagers, and I would ask you like, is
this like, am I seeing things from a weird point
of view? Or you know, or you see kind of
what I'm seeing That we did see a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I was like, No, a lot of jealousy amongst the women.
It was a lot of jealousy amongst women. And I'm
sure a lot of the people that are listening or
watching can relate, you know. I think this happens a
lot in many families. It's just our family happens to
be a famous one or a very successful one or
whatever you want to call it. But this is stuff
that we've noticed for a very long time. I think
we just knew how to hide it, or there wasn't
(09:37):
social media or you know, all this stuff. But there
were moments that we had great Christmases together.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
There were time when we lived off of Illu streeted
Long Beach at Grandma's house and for Christmas, Oh, he
had it there, and you know, and Grandma and Grandpa
were still together, and they would give us I can
see as you remember that they you know, and we
would break them and they would make us box, you
guys in the hard, boxing each other. I had a
box Doorna. She beat my ass every time. And then
(10:05):
my mom passed and I was one of the main pillars,
I think in her family.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And that's when I realized that this now, I really
realized that, like, damn, my aunt really held this family together.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you start processing now you're like, damn, like this
is not what I thought my family was. Like you said,
I love a family. I didn't never wish about it
will or nothing like that. It's just not what I
thought what happened exactly. I thought it was gonna make
people closer. I thought it was gonna make you know.
I was like, you know, I love being on the
(10:41):
sidelines and seeing you know, like you cousin doing your singing,
You're seeing other people doing their thing them. I was like,
you know, awsome be fabulous.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, it's been pretty crazy. And I realized and I
always knew that my mom was a pillar because I
saw how people would look for her and how she
was needed financially. Yeah, it's just the truth. Whether people
want to admit it or not, the truth is I
saw and I lived it at first. So many conversations,
(11:10):
my mom told me so many things. She helped out
a lot of people going back to so this whole
thing I did realize that who my mom was in
the family was that my mom would tell people straight up,
like she would not put up with anyone's book. Yeah, no,
(11:31):
she didn't. And if something was wrong, she would see it.
She would either write you an email. She loved that emails,
you know, but she would let it be old, you know,
and she'd be like, this is what's going on, and
this is why I'm moving to Corona. And I don't
agree with this, that's why. That's why we moved to
Corona because of Grandpa and his affair. Okay, that's why.
Because I don't know if you remember, growing up, we
(11:53):
were all at like in a certain radius. Everyone had
to be either in loam, beat your thing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It couldn't be too far.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So it was like this family thing. Yeah, and my
mom said, f this, I'm gonna be the first one
to move away. Yeah, because I was so disappointed and
so hurt that my grandpa was having an affair with
a woman that was her age. I was having a baby.
She was distraught. She just was like, that's my daddy
like coming so our family. Mom was so distorted. She
just said, f this, I'm leaving, And from there she
(12:21):
started happening. Yeah, you know, it was already kind of Yeah.
And I'm not trying to judge my grandpa. I don't
agree with a lot of things. I still love my grandpa.
I left my grandpa through it, but that's the truth,
you know, And I think it did Hyperrito, mister Burrito,
and I'm missing him. I haven't talked to him in
so long. You know, it's it's real mest up all
this stuff that's happening. But there's again there's a lot
of stuff that I don't agree with. Yeah, but that's
(12:43):
when we moved away and my mom would just say
how it is, and I when she was no longer there,
there was like no authority. Yeah. Then I think that's
when it was that everything was chaotic and they're missing
of course they're missing their daughter, they're missing their sister.
Like it's such a huge law. It was a world
our family that it just everything that was chaos. Yeah.
(13:03):
You know, for a long time I was very like
considered of that and compassionate about everyone's feelings. But then
it gets to a point where you're like I can't
excuse that. I'm sorry no matter what. Yeah, you still
got to act right because yeah, my mom's like here physically,
but she still watched it. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And that's that's one thing is like that my aunt
was my aunt.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I respected my aunt.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I knew that lady did not play and I just
knew that a lot of things that have happened was
in his past eleven years.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
My aunt was still near that would not ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Ever, not a word would have came out of people's mouth,
not certain actions.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I just know that for sure. That's one thing I
will say. Mam was an amazing provis was a great mom.
We had a relationship that we were sisters and they
were just so so close, but we loved each other
so much. Honestly, I think I can go to my
mom for anything. It's our mom, Simon, so I want
and she would get it from me. Because right now
I remember the Buddy which she surprised me with that
car yet you know it was blue. Yeah, you know
(14:06):
it's a vertical verto. It had just came out. Yeah,
it was two early two thousand early two. I think
it was two thousand and three somebody. Yeah, right, I
think you are what for your sixteenth birthday problem? Now,
huh something like that? Oh my mama. But now that
we're talking about all this and that you know that
it's true you lived through everything with me, cousin, even
during that time though we had talked a little bit
(14:27):
at the end of the day, like it wasn't even
that much. We have not been there. You've been there
with me. And I heard this comment the other day,
and I'm not gonna say where or who said it,
but I'm sure you guys will know. But they set
something down the lines of that I was such a
nice girl. I was so nice, and that fame got
to me, that fame changed me, that I'm a different
(14:48):
personnel and it's the people that surround me that have
changed me. Honestly, Cousin, say it how it is, whatever
it is that you may think, I want you to
tell me. Know what do you think about that? Now?
I think sometimes you.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Need to be more of a bit, you know, because
you know, cheeks, You've always been, always looked at people,
seeing the good siding people.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You don't like to.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Cause problems, you don't like to you know, certain frictions.
So I think that sometimes you need a babitch. But no,
I don't think fame has gotten to you in any way,
shape or form, thing and everybody just because I see you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Know you're my cousin.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I it's thirty six years of you know, even my cousin,
I see you the same, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I really don't feel that I'm saying fame because I don't.
I don't I know people know me. I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Like when they said that. I was like, what, like,
I what happened is that I'm not that that naive yeah,
global little girl that I used to be, that you
could just manipulate.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I was just when I when I heard that the
other day, I was like, Okay, well, everyone is entitled
to their own opinion. It's fine. No memory is that.
It's just I have changed. I have changed in a
way of if I'm saying the same person and I'm
not really, yeah, I'm not evolving. Yeah, of course I changed. Yes, yeah,
I have changed. I'm not the same person I was.
I'm more mature. I could say that I'm smarter, I'm wiser.
(16:17):
Do you still talk to any of our eccentifics?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I haven't, cousin, I'm like the uh, the rose, will
you know, reach out and say happy birthday here you know,
here in there, But to have conversations might have have
no for me. My separation of our.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Family was back in like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
There was a specific situation that I was just like,
and this is something that you had no control over,
or that you needed to fix or my other cousins
needed to fix. No, this was sort of like the
pillars of our family that needed to fix situations and
they never got fixed. So I just knew that it
was not ever.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Going to give six. You've always been very good with
being a risk backful kind of like you know, which
I love.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And I did stay my peace so too to my
the roves and and they want to say, you know,
this is not okay or what I feel is I
don't agree with certain Yeah this is and how not
how our family's supposed to be. And I, you know,
never be just. I was not respectful, but I just
said my peace, and you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And you know what I I don't really talk to
anyone else other than honestly. I would love to have
a better relationship with all my cousins. I I've always
said this from the very beginning. You know, I don't
want the kids, the cousins to get involved in all this,
you know all and that's something that you and I
would always say, Yeah, I want us to be different
(17:44):
from the elders. You know. I was like, I don't
want to find with my cousins.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, and even with your the dynamics with your siblings.
I remember you said, I don't want to be like
how our our you know my mom is with you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Her siblings. Yeah, you know it's my it's my job
as the eldest, and that promise I make to my
mom that way, I'm gonna try my best to no job,
leave you. I continue to do great job. And you
just put the moffuckers in the line that have to do.
And you know those ups.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And downs are always gonna happen. Yeah, and us, we're
always gonna fight with our siblings or with their family members.
But there's there's a lie. There's a lie. And I
feel some people don't don't see those wife they just yep,
they don't. They don't respect boundaries. So you know, you know,
And one thing I will say about my deal Gus Yo.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yo, daddy, I love him, I will say and I'll
say this and I've said it many times. And I
have to take away anything from anyone else but my
deal Gus has been the only uncle since my mom
passed eleven years. We're going on twelve years, you guys
that he always says me and not I don't have
money to give you. You need twenty bucks, give you
(19:00):
twenty dollars. I ain't got more than that right now.
He says, I got I gotta take care of your dad, Patty,
and you know whatever, he's like, but he's there to
call me to bring me water free water of his
ALCOHOLI water and calls my siblings, checks up on us
at least once a week, if not once every two weeks.
But he has been consistent that I'm like I we
(19:21):
all love him so much because of that, because no
matter what, he respects what we're doing. Yeah, he's like,
hey me, I heard that. You know this happened, And
I don't want to be nosy, but are you good.
He's always streaking on this. Yeah. He's a great father.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, my dad. I talked to my dad at
least children Candy. It's like so much my mom like
I do. I like, this is all carble. Yeah, I
love you know, burn up. I didn't have the great
relationship with my mom, and you know now it's so
much like great or not. And I understand I was
a pain the ass and I feel like because I
was always like what why are things like this?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
What? You know? My mom always tells me because I
end the line. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I was always like combat even becombatd in that sense
and made in school and you know whatever. But I
was always like a print of my mom's dads.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Do you feel that that changed your relationship with your
mom after you had kids? Yes, I felt more.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I understood because, like I said, I feel like I
was war between my brother and I was born like
the hot headed one like Hi, Like I wasn't out
fighting with people and some but I was always like one, why.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Aren't things is what you would ask questions?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yes, And my mom was like, because that's just howly honor.
She'd be liked, you didn't understand when you have kids
you would challenge her. Yes, And then I had keys
and I was like, I know what's talking about, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm very grateful because then he came on the podcast.
So Hi, you do this conversation for driving all the
way from Long Beach you guys Radical Foss please for
Kluma only California. That's where I was born, Guys at
Saint Mary's Hospital. But before you go, because if you
want to share any socials where people could follow you,
or you want to keep that private or whatever you
want to do, please tell them about your business on
the right so you could find it on Aroma Revolution
(21:03):
Nature dot LA for myself. It is the spiritual messenger nice.
All right, well, thank you cousin.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I love you, you wonderful cousin of my soul.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
My wonderful cousin if you if you ever need anyone
so they'll uplift you, is my cousin. I swear your
messages are the best. I'm like, oh, you make me laugh.
You're just You're just, You're just let a sunshine in
the world. But thank you guys so much for watching
this episode of Cheeky's and Chill. And I'll watch you guys,
or you'll watch me on the next one, or listen
to me. All right, guys, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
I can't wait to hear from you.
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