February 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Hola, Hola! Get ready for today’s conversation with Cindy Cervantes – better known on social media MustBeCindy – and her daughter Karina. I’ve invited them on the pod to talk about their relationship because it reminds me so much of the relationship between me and my mom Jenni. Tune in and listen to us share some laughs and almost shed some tears.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello everyone, and welcome to Cheeky's and Chill podcast. I
am super excited today because we have some special guests. Okay,
that means to you guys plural. So before I go there,
this is a very important topic for me because of
my mom.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And anyways, you know, before I get into that, let's just.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Go ahead and introduce my guests. I'm gonna start with
Cindy savanthez you guys, you guys will know her as
must be Cindy or lamas be. And she brought her
daughter Gotti short for Gattina.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hello, Hello, you guys. Hello, Thank you so much for
having us something so happy. It's a little different because it's.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Like a mom daughter chap. I'm super excited to be
here with you. So we're gonna try to keep it pg. Thirteen.
Although I know, I was like, I bring with tequila,
and then I was like, you know, wait, hold on, no,
we have an underage said no the Keila on the set.
But I am happy. Thank you guys for being here.
Let's get into this because the reason is this the
first time you guys do a podcast together. Yes, oh
(01:11):
my god, yeah first sea here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We love that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, great, because for me, I was like, Okay, of
course I wanted to talk to you. We've done some
stuff together with Shapewear. By the way, you guys, Cindy
is wow. Honestly my hat's talk to you girl.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's literally day.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I love.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It means a lot to me, and you have really
taken and helped take our like brand to another level.
So I'll say that I don't care. I can't say
it's just me. I have people that have helped me.
You are definitely one of them. And also Miss Scattie here.
I know we have a collection as well. So I
wanted to have this conversation because I was like, okay,
we've hung out and everything. And then I saw that
(01:48):
you have a very beautiful young daughter and I met
her and I was like, oh my god. I saw
her on Instagram live one day, not Instagram TikTok live,
it was to Talk live and I saw how like,
I don't know, I saw another side of her, like
said this girls, and she's a sales.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Person, a saleswoman like she was just people love you.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Girl, learning from the best teaching her. I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You guys look alike a lot. I mean obviously that's
your mom, right, But I.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Trembled sometimes I see her and I'm like, oh my god,
she's like a little mini me. It's crazy. It's crazy.
I'm trying to teach her the ropes because I feel
like this is an amazing industry. And I remember when
she even like found out that I was working with you.
She was like, oh my god. And then well here
she is now, and it's so crazy, you know. So
she's beautiful and you had her at fourteen. I had
her at fourteen. Yes, we were fighting about the math
(02:33):
this week.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was about to bring it up, but I'm not
gonna bring it up.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Ye bring it up, okay, because we were live today.
And then she was like, oh, I had her when
I was fourteen, which she did, but she found she said,
she found out that she was pregnant with me when
she was fourteen. But I'm a very good math person.
She found out she was pregnant with me at thirteen.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Start bringing it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, she's like fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
She was like, no, it's thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Her birthday's in January. So she turned fourteen a couple
months after she found out that she was pregnant with me.
So I was like, if you put two and two together,
I think I'm right, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So she damn okay, baby, we hold lose your mom.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
When she had fifteen two weeks before her sixteenth birthday,
MoMA would always say, oh, I had you at sixteen,
and I was like, Mom, it was two weeks before
your sixteenth birthday. So she had me at fifteen, my
fifteenth birthday, I had a six month old baby.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's so crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, that's definitely had her
before your mom had you.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, And that's why I wanted to talk to you.
I mean, you guys should know who Cindy is. But
Cindy is an Aquarius, right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm actually a Capricorn. You Oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Goodness, Oh my god, why don't we think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Aquarius because we were like, it's on the cusp. Okay,
So she's a Capricorn. You're an influencer, you have your
own business, so I think you're you're honestly, you're killing it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I'm glad that you're teaching.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Your daughter all these things because your relationship reminds me
a lot of my relationship with my mom, which is
why I was like, we got to talk about this
because there are others.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
There are other sides of it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, and I wanted to just say, is it
just was it just my relationship with my mom or
does it really exist because you guys are basically growing
up to you guys grow up together?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know? Has that been hard for you? Gouttie? Like
did you feel like does it bother?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You can be honest, you could be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, has it been hard, like in the sense of,
for instance, one thing that I used to hate what
would be like guys would flirt with my mom and this.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is my sister. I am not her sister, her.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Daughter, you know, excuse me mother, you know, But has
that like, I mean, that's just an example. But is
it hard to have such a young, beautiful mom or
is it something that is exciting or you know anything?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I feel like yes and no, because it's like there's
like the good in it. And then there's like times
where I'm like, you know, I'm so proud of my mom,
but I'm just like since I'm like, oh, like everybody
like I don't know, I don't know how to put
it in words, but like sometimes I feel like people
only like know who I am because of my mom.
You know, like there's kids at school that will like
(04:55):
try to be my friend and then at the end
I'll find out like, oh, like they just try to
use me to get closer to my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I'm just like, so, like you're kindly like reminded of.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, but I can understand. But I'm very proud of
my mom. You know, She's come a long way. So
sometimes I'm just like I'm just going to suck it up,
you know, because my mom deserves the world, and if
if that's what it takes for her to get where
she wants to, then she's so much huh.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
She is Like I'm looking at her and I'm like,
I'm already wanting to cry.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
We're going to cry today. Yeah, I can get that.
I can relate to that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Which it's kind of similar to you because i mean,
obviously I'm like not a celebrity, but you know, it's
like you're a public figure, and like I bet you
were like constantly reminded of like your mom's a public figure,
you know, And sometimes it's like, which is it's not.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
A bad thing, you know, Like I'm so happy for
my mom, but then like you know, like I said,
there's times where I'm just like, like sinces, you just
want to be Yeah, like since I just want to like,
you know, I'm just I'm just scutty, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Like you know, but I get that I was in
my mom's shadow for a long time, and I always
say this. I'm like, I I am so proud of
my mom is, but I also want to be known
for who I am and my accomplishments and what I'm doing,
you know, and growing up, I think before all of
the fame, it was sometimes I did feel like I
was well, we were kind of like sisters, and it
(06:17):
was like I kind of felt like I had to
take care of her sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Do you ever feel like that with your mommy?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
No, honestly, it's like in between. But I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I feel like sometimes you do have to take care
of me, like your mom is so young and you're
you have fun and I love that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, because there's sometimes where it's like, yeah, I guess
you could say sometimes I do have to take care
of it, but it's I love too, you know, I
love my mommy. I would do anything for her, anything
for like.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You, Oh and you got you have a brother, so
you have two kids.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Help your mom a lot with your Oh yeah, yeah,
as the oldest, we have to.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I feel at the beginning it was a little hard
because like I was like, oh, you know, here a
little bit of a hassle. But now it's kind of
like we grew into like where he listens to me
and he you know, he just would chill in my room,
or sometimes he'll be in his room and she'll be like,
where's your brother. I don't even know, mom, I don't
know where he went. I think he's just asleep or
something like he's so chill.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I try not to put him on her a lot, though,
because she's like a little straight a student, and you know,
she like focuses so much on her school and stuff
on herself. And I see her, and you know, I
had her at such a young age, so I mean
to see her be like everything I wasn't like. I
just want to like let her focus on herself so
that she doesn't like get sidetracked or I don't know,
like become rebellious or like. I love that she focuses
(07:37):
so much on herself, So I try to like keep
her brother out of the picture a lot. But she
does take care of us though, like when she has to,
she'll step up.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
She says, I'm like, yeah, just bring me my brother,
like I love my brother. So like I said, like
I'll do anything for her, I'll do anything for him.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, you're a good big sister and a good oldest daughter,
which is great. But I think what your mom means
to do is she doesn't want you to grow up
and resent her. No, maybe because I think for like
a while, I did feel like, oh my gosh, why
am I the old I have to take care of
my siblings?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And it was just and Mom's like, I don't know.
Talk to God. He knows why he made you the
oldest girl. You need to help me.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So it was like cause she was a single mom,
you know, so I was like, okay, but now I'm
like thank you mom, because she was so strict on me.
And she would always say, I'm like, why did weren't
you like this with Jackie with my other sister, and
you know, you were so strict on me. She's like, well,
I molded you. I had I you didn't come with
the manual with you was like what am I going
to do? And then it was just easier with your
other siblings, So I don't at all hold any resentment
(08:28):
if anything. I'm like, I'm so grateful. And going back
to when you were pregnant, was that hard for you
being like did you go to like you finished school
and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I finished school. It was really hard because looking back
at it, like now, I went through a lot of
like my I was still growing up moments when she
was so little, and I'm so glad that she doesn't
remember a lot of that because I feel like a
lot of the times I was just like I was little,
you know, like I don't think I was like grasping
so much for what was happening. So going to school,
(09:01):
I always felt like the auto one out because I
had a baby and stuff like that. But I finished
high school. I really did. But it was tough. I mean,
right now you see us and we're like mom and
daughter and she's like already in high school and stuff
and it's nice, but growing up it was. It was hard.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It's crazy how far we've come.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I know, like, do you have any like core memories
of like am me.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Taking over the podcast?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I love?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I know, yes, please no.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Like, but I didn't want to ask you, like obviously
on the podcast, and so since it's for you and
I like, do you have any like like core memories
like of being little and being like okay, like my
mom's for sure like a teen mom, you know, cause
I feel like when you have an older mom, it's different.
But like, did you ever have like a moment where
you felt like you felt like I was like more
of like a sister, like I do, I see.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I feel like I don't, honestly, like it's so hard
to remember stuff from my childhood. It's honestly, I mean,
I'm still in my childhood, but like but there's moments
where like I do feel like you're not my mom,
like you're just my sister, still my best friend, Yeah,
of course, because it's like I feel like with my
like sometimes like people will be like, how are you
so close to your mom? And she's like because with her,
(10:06):
she makes me feel like I could tell her anything
and like she's not gonna she's not gonna judge me.
She's gonna be my mom and my best friend all
in one, you know. So it's it's it's good that
I feel like if I'm going through something like I
know that I could go to my mom and she's gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Beautiful and a lot of people don't have that baby,
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And I feel like she probably feels like that because
I'm telling you, like most of the time that I
was kind of still going through like my growing up.
She was a baby, like she was one, two, three, four,
so she doesn't really remember a lot, but I do
of like me just kind of still being like a kid,
you know, and doing like stupid things like I mean,
going out and drinking and smoking and like all that stuff.
(10:45):
I feel like I stopped early on, thank god, because
she doesn't remember all of that, you know what I mean?
Or do you?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I do, Like, okay, like I don't remember like so much,
but yes there was times where, you know, like you
would have your fun. But I was a baby, so
I really didn't know. But like now, growing up, I
also have to know, like you were also still a baby,
you know, like you were still you were still growing and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, so yeah, it took me a long time to
understand that with my mom because I felt like sometimes
I had to be the parent because I had so
many siblings, you know, so I was like helping, you know,
take care of them, and then I'm like, I started thinking,
I said, well, that's not fair. I mean, you know,
I'm glad my mom didn't have an abortion. She could
have easily said I'm fifteen years old, I'm gonna have
an abortion, and thank goodness she didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, So I was like, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like now now I think now I have more compassion
for her where I'm like, when she was out, I
was like, well, I'm so I'm sixteen, I'm supposed to
be out with my friends, and she was living her life.
She was in her early thirties and she was just
partying and everything. And I'm like, well, she didn't have
a childhood, you know, so now unfortunately, and I'm so
glad that you see that you're so mature because that
didn't happen for me until later on in my life.
Where I was like, I kind of was. I was
(11:52):
tough on my mom, I think, and she would say
that I was like her worst credit because I felt
like I had a girl up so fast.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So in a way, I was like, damn it. But
now I thank her.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So I love the fact the relationship you guys have
that you give her that space in that room to
come talk to you and she could be herself completely
and that you're showing her the ropes that you're saying, Hey,
this is how you do it. I see it like
on Instagram how gomla Celeras.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And I love that I have. I commend that.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I feel like if I don't like I want to
be everything, I feel like my mom wasn't able to
be for me because I grew up too fast, you know,
like I didn't let myself be fifteen sixteen seventeen with
my mom. Like I grew up and I was like, Okay,
now you're a mom, and you know, Mexican traditional moms
are like okay Athena sequos like, so I didn't allow
myself to have that with my mom. And then my
(12:34):
mom had you know, five kids, ya handa and everything,
so it was a lot harder for me to have
like that relationship that I have with Gutti. So I'm like,
I have to be this for her because I don't
want to wake up one day and like she's like
out and like trying to party, and I mean, I
know she's going to get there one day, but I'm
trying my hardest to have her like I just try
to remind her, you know, like focus on yourself as
much as you can, because we are like kids a
(12:56):
lot less than we are adults. And once you're an
adult you can do everything like yeah, but when you're
a kid, I mean that goes by so fast and
you got to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So do you feel that your relationship with Gotti is
so much better because you learn things like how is
your relationship with your mom? I've heard you say a
few things, but and you feutiful comfortable about We don't
have to, but is your hou's relationship now with your mom?
And do you think that relationship helped this relationship?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It does, because I feel like my mom and I
have always done for ever since I was younger, We've
always had a toxic relationship. You could say, I feel
like that teaches me also how to be Like it
tooks to say, but like you go through certain situations
with like your parents and you're like, no, I have
to learn how to be better, and kind of like yeah,
(13:41):
you have to, like come said, I'm having a brain
part break the cycle, you know anywhere, Like our parents
were one way and like they just weren't as like
understanding or as like talkative or like you know, and
stuff like that. But me and my mom right now,
we're working on our relationship, but it has been very
toxic and that has taught me like how not to
be with my kids. I mean, I don't I can't
(14:02):
tell my future, but for now, I feel like I
do see the things that I go through with like
my mom and stuff, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like, Okay, I I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Want to put my kids through the same relationship. I
love my mom and stuff, but it's just they're very different,
you know. And I know you can relate to that too,
like they're very different harder, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I think that's why I've waited so long to have kids,
And if I could just be honest, I was like,
I don't know if I want to have a daughter
because I'm like, I want to make sure that i'm
older as well, because I don't want to live that again,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now I'm like, again, you grow up and you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Start understanding things differently, Like now I have so much
compassion for my mom because I'm like, damn, she was
so young and she still made it happen, you know,
But growing up, I didn't always see it that way.
And I think That's why I've taken so long to
have kids, because I'm like that shit's hard, you know
what I mean. I raised my siblings and everything. But
but I think that's what our parents want. Ultimately, our
parents want us to be.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Better than they were.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I feel like, like you said, breaking generational curses,
breaking the cycle, and say, Okay, I want to be better.
And if anything is not to say that your mom's
a bad person, it's just they grew up in a
different time as well, you know what I mean, And
like this is where it's it's a beautiful thing where
it's like we live and we learn literally because I
mean imagine you you're fifteen, you would have a little
freaking gatti or you know, I'm just saying, you know
(15:18):
what I'm saying, Like if she's fifteen, she would have
a little toddler. Like do you think about that sometimes
about like not that you want to have kids, I'm saying,
like how old your mom was when she had you?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And she sometimes I'm like I'll like be doing something
and I'm just like dang, Like I'll be all like
for example, I'll be at keens and I'm like wow,
Like my mom never was able to do this because
she had me like walking around and like she couldn't
go out and live her life. And I'm just like,
I'm so glad that my mom has like taught me
what I shouldn't do, because i always have her in
(15:47):
my head like replaying in my head like you're you're smart,
You're better than this, you know, like don't don't do
something that you're gonna regret, and so that I'm just
like I do not want kids right now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, And she also has other siblings like she has.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, it's like really, okay, so that's yeah, I have
I have, Yeah, I have like the I have four
other siblings with my dad, and I'm like taking care
of them sometimes too. So they're all younger than you. Yeah,
I'm the oldest out of all my siblings. Yeah, so
I'm like taking care of them. I'm like, yeah, I
really will never want kids. It's a little too because.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You guys have four little I mean four younger I
mean yeah, four younger ones. And then you guys are
both cancers and oh my god, I have a lot
of comming. You guys both have like teen moms.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh my gosh god.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm like you're I see in a weird way,
I see myself in you because you're so mature the
way she speaks, and and like you said, I'm like,
you you, this is good that your mom is so
open with you because you're like, Okay, I I like
your mom wants you to be better than she is
then and then she has been then she you know
what I mean. And I think that that's that's awesome.
But let's be real. Do you guys ever feel any
(16:56):
cellos in any.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Way towards each other? Or do you guys? I mean,
I'm sure you guys share, oh right or something we do.
I steal all her clothes actually, yeah, that's yeah. And
that's me and my mom.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know, a part of me, I will say, a
part of me I see her and I just see
like how like happy you are, and like how much
you just like glow everywhere you are and everything. I'm like, damn,
how come I couldn't like do that when I was younger.
But also, I mean, you have to like take into consideration,
like you know, you have your mom, you have your dad,
like you have all that. I had my mom, but
my mom had five kids and she was always working
(17:28):
like you know, like out in the grape vines and stuff,
so you didn't really have them a lot. Or like
my dad he left me really young, so I had
like trauma from like you know, I had my daddy
issues like since I was little. So I feel like
that's why I grew up like that. But I don't
get jealous of anything. I feel like proud, you know, like, yeah,
you're just doing every, literally every because you could have
turned out the same. Let's be real, you know, or
(17:49):
you could have been like just crazy and like, oh
my god, I think I'm living through her, like I'm
like reliving and I'm so young, so I'm for sure
reliving through her. Like I see her going out and stuff,
and I like hyper up. I'm like you do this?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Do that?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Have fun?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But I fairly go out.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I honestly, I'm a homebody. I don't like girl. I
like to stay home, Like I will pick staying home
and watching movies in my bed all day then to
go out and like party. I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I like to party. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I could rink here in there, but I'm more of like,
if you give me the choice, I want to just
stay in my pea chas, I'll stay in, I'll watch
out Netflix and chill, so I get you to cancher things. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What about you, though, Like how do you feel like
do you feel like there's any like ever jealousy or
like kind of like resentment, a little bit of like,
oh why is my mom? Like so hong.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Like can be like a year old mom honestly, no question. Yeah,
I feel like if I can be honest, like there's
because I don't know if I want to, like okay,
let's just say okay. So I've always been like when
I was maybe like thirteen fourteen, I've always been so
like insecure about myself, okay, And like sometimes I look
at my mom and I'd be like, oh my god,
(18:58):
like she's so beautiful. It's like and then I look
at myself and then I'm gonna cry and I'm like,
I like and then I like look at her and
I think she's so beautiful, And then I look at myself.
I'd be like, why can't I look like her?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So it's like the only time I get it, I
get it. I get it completely because you do have
a beautiful mama. But let me tell you and I'm
not just saying this because you are so beautiful, gutty,
I'm not even my god like.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're you're curvy.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're beautiful to me, and I think it's I mean,
that's how I was because I was.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean sometimes I was I had to wear bigger
sizes in my mom, you know, I know, but I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I would think, like certain, so I get her in
that aspect.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It's hard because we're on social media, you know, and
I feel like obviously me being like.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
An adult or.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Whatever, like I feel like here and there, you know,
you're like I had her so young that I was like, oh,
I'm gonna get my tummy tuck as soon as I
can may and stuff. And but I always remind her
like when I was your age, like I looked like you,
I had your body, I had all of that. But
it's hard when you're on social media because I actually
went through like a twenty pound weight loss, which I'm
so proud of you because you're a beautiful then and
(20:04):
you're beautiful now. But they would come at her and
like why is your mom smaller than you? And like
why is you're not.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
At one point, it got to me like one point,
like before I'd be like, oh, like I just show
the sugar and like not care what they tell me.
But once I started getting older and like I look
at myself more like when they would tell me stuff
like that, it would honestly break my heart and I'd
be like dang, you know, because like I'd always try
to picture myself as such a beautiful girl, which I am.
I feel like I'm very beautiful and you know, but
(20:32):
at one point, I was just like, you know, why
can't I look like these other girls, you know, because
the Internet was really getting to me. But after I
lost like my weight and stuff, I don't think anybody could.
Like I feel like, I'm like yeah, like I feel
like I'm like the most beautiful girl in the you know.
Now I feel confident like now, Like before people would
be like, oh, you're so pretty and I'd be like, oh,
(20:53):
thank you, but like no, and now I'm just like
thank you, like because I feel pretty.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You know, it's beautiful and I feel like you're also
I mean, she was growing, you know, and I feel
like it's just so crazy, like any size is beautiful.
Like I feel like people have made a team, Like
if your mom looks a certain way, like you have
to look like your mom, and you don't like you're
so beautiful the way you are now the way you
were before. But I'm glad in a way. I mean,
I'm not glad that she got attacked that way, but
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it kind of like brought a side out of her
that made her want to like change things about herself.
And she did and everybody just shut up.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Like the gym, yeah, like she's Jimmy, Like I've been
hitting the gym. I've been detox. Seeing all of that literally,
like that made me like change the way I see myself.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So what you did was you took those bad comments
and used it for constructive criticism, which is hard to do.
A lot of people, let me tell you, would have
crawled under a rock gained more weight. But you said,
you know what, Okay, cool, this is gonna I'm gonna
use this as positive reinforcement to say I'm gonna get better,
because that's what I did when people would I'm telling you,
for a long time, I was in my mom's shadow,
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and I felt like I'm like, am.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I ever going to be seen for me? Am I ever?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Are people gonna listen to my music is like, oh,
you don't sing like your mom and this and that.
I'm like, okay, First of all, I had to learn
to say, I don't. I'm not my mom. I'm not
gonna sing like my mom. I am myself. And once
I embrace that, and I think that's what you're doing,
it just makes you glow in a different way. So
I honestly around of applause for God, you guys know
that's beautiful because I know people have been you know
(22:25):
how the internet girl. To me, it's a beautiful thing
that we're able to connect with our followers.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But also as.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's like, there are people on there that are so
mean and how can you guys be so fucking mean?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't understand And and you know, for.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Me, I'm like for them to be mean to me
all day long, I don't care. But when it comes
down to your kids, but you have no control over that.
You know, like you could sit there and curse people
out all day long, but the moment that they're seeing
that it's bugging, they're gonna continue doing it. And I
feel like that's what they did to Karina for the
longest time. But I'm just glad that, like I said,
you know, she she's glowing and you know you're in
high school, you're going through all your changes and stuff
(22:59):
like that. I'm just glad that you changed for the better,
like she said, you know, so yeah for schever. Let
that get to you, baby, because you.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Are beautiful and I'm not just saying it. I think
you're very pretty girl since I met you have a
beautiful smile, I have a beautiful personality. So those things
are always going to exists exist, They're not always They're
not gonna go away. I mean, I think when you're
doing something right and people imagine if they didn't talk
about you, it's like an cibns. But if people are
saying stuff, it's because you're doing something that bothers them.
(23:27):
So it's like, as long as you just now you're
really like, you know what, whatever, I'm gonna work on myself.
I would always tell people because they call me father
for like ever on the internet. They still do at
this point, but I'm like, well, can you ever call
me ugly?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You sure can't. Can you call me dumb? You can't?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm gonna call me fat all you want, because I
saw I'm the Miss Piggy girl. Yeah, I miss Piggy.
And then one day I said, okay, fine, I'm gonna
be Miss Piggy for for for Halloween. I sure did.
I said, Ah, that's the best thing you could do.
I was like, and now I'm cute.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I've always been cute.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Tell me because I know you're er open about your
relationship with Brandon. How has that been, Because I'm gonna
tell you, I was so hard with my mom on
on like her boyfriends.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, you're not bringing them around my siblings
and blah blah blah blah. I could control her.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
She's like, well, I was like, this is my I'm
gonna do whatever I want with it. But how is that?
How has it been difficult to navigate that?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Or?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Honestly, Krana has always been very like quiet about because girl,
I mean, I've lived my life, you know, And I
feel like that's something I could relate to with your
mom too, because I feel like I've gone through it,
like I haven't obviously been married for like the past
fifteen years, as she's been alive, like I've I've lived
my life. It has been a little like I was
to see the CASKM like, oh my god, Like I'm like,
(24:41):
here goes another boyfriend, or like here goes another part
of my life. But you also have to remember me.
I remind myself like I'm still a human and I
had them so young that I'm still living my life
and was no up until now. Yeah Brandon post so
I've seen okay yoh most for a long time and
they love him so much, but growing up. And I
bring this up because I want to ask you to,
(25:02):
like how have you felt? Because I know it's probably
been like uncomfortable. And that's another thing you guys have
in common, you know, is that like you guys have
gone through that you didn't have like the regular mom
and dad that were like married your whole life like
a lot of people do. And I feel like that's
been a tough thing for me. But like I know
that my kids are going to grow up one day
and I know that I still have to live my
life and as long as I take care of them,
(25:23):
like I feel like I don't know they should respect me.
But I also feel like you have your own emotions
and like your own feelings, and how have you felt,
and like how do you feel now? Like how have
you felt with like like my entire life and the
dating and like now like do you feel like.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I don't know how to like put it like in
words though it's like like it didn't it didn't bother me.
I didn't, like I didn't care because like I knew
my when my mom was doing, she was living her life.
But as I don't know that's been honest, like I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
How to put it in wrong words like or there's
some that some boyfriends or something in her past that
were necessarily nice to you guys, and you felt like.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I would say yes, but I would also say no
because I was also very hard when it came to
like my mom getting into a relationship, like I never
I never wanted to like get along with them, like
they would try to like create like some type of
bond with me, and like I would be like, you know,
because I was I was such a daddy's girl. So
it's like knowing that my mom was with another like guy,
I'd be like, no, I don't want you to like
(26:23):
be in my life because I only want my dad
in my life. Like I don't know, like it was
just my thoughts as a little girl, like they would
try to like be like close with me, and I'd
be like no, like get away with get away from me. Yeah,
Like I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So I don't know, Like I feel like that's the
only thing like that. I just never wanted, like to
have bonds with them.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So but change with Brandon, I feel like, but I
do speak.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Oh, I know, me and Brandan Okay. Look. One thing
that I feel like that got me and Branden really
close was our music taste because he literally listens to
similar music to me. So it's like when I have
to go on car rids with him where it's just
me and him, it's not awkward because we listen to
the same music. We'll see, we'll sing the same music,
or we'll talk about something in the car.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
But I do, I do, I do? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
But it's because Brandon is honestly really good at advice.
So I'm just like because he's also still young too,
you know, like they're young, so it's like when I
tell them, like they give me really good advice, you know.
So but I feel like another thing that got me
really close with Brandon is just like I got older,
Like I'm older now, and it's like I think I
see things differently. So, like I gave you a try
to get like a close bond with Brandon, especially because
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I felt like he was making my mom really happy,
and you know, I've always wanted my mom to be happy.
So like I tried, and I got really close with
him in like a really short amount of time. And
I was always telling my mom, I need him to
be your boyfriend. I want him to ask you to
be your girlfriend already. And the day that he told
me that he was going to ask her, I was
so happy because, like, I don't know, like him and
my mom were just there's something like I just want.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To like, they just have so much money.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I love that. I see you so happy, Cindy. How
long have you guys been together?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Almost two years? Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And when you told me his age because I'm dating
a younger guy, we talked about that that's why I
have the same age. Yeah, the same difference, but yeah, yeah,
seven years younger than us. And at first I was like,
oh my god, I don't know, but he's there.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
They're more mature than their age for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And the fact that he like has accepted you with
your two kids I think that says a lot about
him and the fact that your kids love him. To me,
it's like my hat off to him, because I know
it's not easy. And sometimes some of my mom's boyfriends
were mean, yeah, and I would protect my siblings. And
then finally when she did find someone that I thought
was great for her, I was like, oh my god,
thank god. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So I get what you're saying. You're like, I just
want my mom.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
To yeah, which is why I'm like more, Oh, I
was going to say something and like I lost them.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sorry, but no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Having a brain fart too. That's okay. There, I think
I got it, okay. So I feel like that's another
reason why I got a little bit closer with Brandon
is because like he did take us in like if
we were his kids. He's like, yeah, like he's trying,
and he's caring and loving to us like if he's
our like like if we're his kids, you know. So
he's never like failed to make us feel like you
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guys are not my kids, so I'm not gonna like
but he shows that he loves us very much. And
I love Brandon a lot, and I'm very grateful to
have him as my second dad.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Brand it is Brandon, Yeah, he really does.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And his family like his brother. His brother is like
my best friend. He's literally my best friend. So because
we're similar in age, he recently just transferred to our
to my school. So now it's like our bond is
just like getting closer and closer as the days go by.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That's awesome. And Mom's getting so emotional over there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I am because I'm just thinking about like the haunt
ey thing. I just feel like for me, it's very
different with Brandon and the kids because I see how
obsessed they are with him, and I'm like, dang, like this,
I hope this is it for us because I see
how happy they are, and I feel like we've been
through a lot, Like I've put them through a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And don't say you've put them through a lot.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I have.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know with my life, haven't you were you were,
you were growing, you were grow going along with us
as we were growing, and you didn't know much and
you know.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
You were still a little girl deep inside trying to
I'm still a little girl like your life.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
We know once for you, guys's stability. So she's just
we're all praying that this is.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
She's come such a far, Like it's comes such a
long way, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, Like it's not even Brandon, Like it's just I
think in the moment that we're in in our life
right now is just so beautiful because like even you know,
we just got our house almost a year ago, and
like just I remember like since you know, like she
was a baby and stuff, like we just always moved,
like always moved, always moved, and just being here. I
think it's like such a beautiful moment because like simples, yeah,
(30:38):
like it was always like okay, this is not working out,
We're going to the next place, and like this is
not working out with this relationship, We're going back to
moms and okay, well now it's not working out with
my mom because you know, we don't get along like that.
So now we're going to the next place. So I
feel like we went through all of that that, like
I think getting our house and like just where we're
out with Brandon and us, like you guys, how grown
you guys are and stuff. I feel like we're just
like in such a beautiful moment.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like you have your home stability, that's awesome, and I honestly,
I'm going to tell you here. I was watching your
live the other day. I was doing my makeup too,
and I was like, I'm gonna go on TikTok. It's rare,
you guys, And you were up at eight in the morning,
like we were both doing our makeup and I was
listening to you and I was and I'm like, I
love how raw you are with your followers and how
you're just straight up you know people. Some people can
say oh this and that at the end of the day.
(31:21):
I love that you're like, hey, guys, I really want
to take my kids to Hawaii, like help me to me,
I think, like it makes me like she wants this
is this is something and thanks to all the people
that support must be Cindian and what she does as well,
Like I think that honestly, And you were thanking them
so much, like thank you, thank you. And I'm all
about people being grateful, and I love that about you
because at the end of the day, I saw you
(31:41):
build your pool, you guys, and this is all for you,
Like now you're you're living a different type of life
and this is for your kids. So I'm very I
haven't known you for that long, but I'm very proud
of you.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I am very proud of it.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I like to be as raw as possible with them,
one because I mean, I grew up in the hood,
like I mean, we grew up like you know, broke
and like not having it like you know, so I
know that, like they are real people out there that
support us, and I mean just the way we grow up,
you know, we didn't grow up with money, like, we
didn't grow up having it all together. So it like
built I built that for myself, and I built it
(32:13):
for myself because of them. Because honestly, if ms P
CINDI wouldn't have happened, Like I don't know where we
would be, you know. So for me, like I can't
just take it as like oh they supported me, like good,
like I'm here and like I deserve and like I
just remember, like those are people that are probably going
through things that like I'm going through, and they relate
to me, and like I always like to make sure
to just let them in my life as much as
(32:34):
possible and also just remind them like of how grateful
I am, because I wouldn't be here if it wasn't
for them, you know, I don't even think I would
be the mom that I am, like the woman that
I am, if social media wouldn't have happened for me,
like I swear, you know, cause before that, I feel
like I was like I always had a void and
I feel like I was like a little loss and
like I was just always trying to find myself in
(32:55):
so many like different places where get Nola and you know,
and now you feel that social media like fill that void,
you know, because in our life, I feel like or
in my life, I feel like I have a lot
of void, but I feel like social media, like my
girls like feel that for me. I don't know, It's
just it's so beautiful. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Having an attitude of gratitude is the biggest thing. I feel
like when you do that mass, you know, it's just
being grateful. And it's beautiful that you're building this foundation
now for for Gotti. Because I see Gotti and I
see how she's just glowing as well. And now we
have our collab and shape Wear.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I'm so excited too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So I just think it's awesome, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
And how do you feel are you scared to start
being like stepping into this whole influencer thing or you like,
this is what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Oh, I'm not do. I go live at six in
the morning every day on Instagram, and I will talk
to my girls. I will talk to my girls. I
call them my girls too, because I'm like, you know,
like like I don't know. I love it. Honestly, I
feel like I see myself doing it, but then I
also see myself doing like other things that I like
plan on doing, but being an influencer, like following my
(33:59):
mom'sis will definitely be something that I plan on doing
because it's honestly, it's it's like it's such a beautiful
like moment, like going live and like talking to them
and acting with yeah, like it's yeah, comes the hate,
but then there's also the beautiful part.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
There's always gonna be that ten percent of yeah, that
or hating, and that's cool. Just focus on the people
that love you, and I see a lot of people
love you, guys. That's what we got to focus on. Yeah,
And now that we're on this topic, I want to
see if you can tell my listeners maybe people and
I've suffered with this, so I give them advice as
much as I can. But if you can tell the
listeners or people that are watching us, like what you
went through with social media, is there anything that you
(34:37):
could tell them to give them girls your age, It
could be anyone that's suffering with cyber bullying, because I
know what that feels like.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, and I've gone through that too, Like I've gotten
bullied on the internet. But I feel like one thing
I will always say is like, don't let it get
to you, right, But obviously they're going to be hating
because you have something that they don't and they're jealous
of you because you're doing something right and they're probably not.
She's like, just don't want to get to you. You know,
like for anybody that's watching, you know, you're beautiful just
(35:05):
the way you are, and whatever the haters have to say,
let them hate, you know, just just live your life.
Because I went through it where it's like I would
like the haters would get to me and I would
get at Like there was this one time I went
live and like I was having such a bad day
and I was like, you know, I'm gonna go live
because the girls always like just take away like all
my distraction, like they distract me, and there was this
(35:27):
girl that was coming for me. I literally had to
run to the bathroom because I was gonna cry, Like
I wanted to just bom my eyes all in live
because I was like, you guys are freaking getting to
me because I'm having such a bad day that like
I had to go to the restroom and like take
a breather and like just told myself of the mirror,
like don't it get to you, Like you're good, you're beautiful.
This don't let anybody like bring you down. And then
I went back and like I kind of held myself together.
(35:48):
But the world is always gonna have the ugly part.
So I feel like some I've always liked to like
this is a little ghetto. But I've always told people
just thaw.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It out, go out.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I love that, dug out, you know, don't whatever you
know that, but douge it out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
My mom would always say, don't bitch out that, don't
bitch out cheeky's So I always have that in my mind.
So yeah, we gotta thugget out, girl, we gotta thuge
it out.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And sanity.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Is there anything you want to tell other mothers young
moms now that you have this amazing platform because people
always ask me, Chikiz, how do I do it? I
want to be an influencer. I want my own business. Like,
is there any advice that you can give them?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think my advice is definitely if you're a young
mom out there, I know a lot of you guys
probably are going through struggles. You're probably going through something anything.
You're always gonna go through something, You're always gonna have
that mom guiltas keep on going. Do what you love
to do, do it with love, and God's gonna take
you through your blessings. He's gonna take you through your struggles.
(36:47):
He's gonna take you through literally anything you're meant to
go through. Like just like got he said, dug it out,
you know, like write it out. Just don't let the
world get to you whenever they're trying to like bring
you down and things like that. You know, I feel like,
just keep going focused on the positive. And that's like
the best advice I think I could give people.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
For sure, because it's it's tough out there, you guys,
But thank God, this is something I always say the
world is tough, but thank God I'm tougher. So you
know we got this, and guys, thank you so much
for being on my podcast today for coming all the.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Way out here.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I got them sushi, you guys, because I was like
I felt, I was like, I'm gonnat to Starbucks sushi.
Thank you guys so much. If you guys want to share,
please your social media so people can follow, y'all.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Minus must be Cindy and Minus underscore got you with
two eyes Marie on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Marie, that was gonna be my middle name.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Oh my god, girl, you guys close this out being
like super I know well, you guys, thank you so
much for listening and watching Cheeky's and Chill.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I enjoyed this episode and I hope you guys did
as well. This is one that's super fun to my
heart and I just I don't know, I saw a
lot of myself and my mom in them, so honestly,
around of applause, please you guys everyone here in the
studio and I will catch you guys on the next
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Hello everyone, and welcome to Cheeky's and Chill podcast. I
am super excited today because we have some special guests. Okay,
that means to you guys plural. So before I go there,
this is a very important topic for me because of
my mom.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And anyways, you know, before I get into that, let's just.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Go ahead and introduce my guests. I'm gonna start with
Cindy savanthez you guys, you guys will know her as
must be Cindy or lamas be. And she brought her
daughter Gotti short for Gattina.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Hello, Hello, you guys. Hello, Thank you so much for
having us something so happy. It's a little different because it's.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Like a mom daughter chap. I'm super excited to be
here with you. So we're gonna try to keep it pg. Thirteen.
Although I know, I was like, I bring with tequila,
and then I was like, you know, wait, hold on, no,
we have an underage said no the Keila on the set.
But I am happy. Thank you guys for being here.
Let's get into this because the reason is this the
first time you guys do a podcast together. Yes, oh
(01:11):
my god, yeah first sea here.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We love that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, great, because for me, I was like, Okay, of
course I wanted to talk to you. We've done some
stuff together with Shapewear. By the way, you guys, Cindy
is wow. Honestly my hat's talk to you girl.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's literally day.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I love.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It means a lot to me, and you have really
taken and helped take our like brand to another level.
So I'll say that I don't care. I can't say
it's just me. I have people that have helped me.
You are definitely one of them. And also Miss Scattie here.
I know we have a collection as well. So I
wanted to have this conversation because I was like, okay,
we've hung out and everything. And then I saw that
(01:48):
you have a very beautiful young daughter and I met
her and I was like, oh my god. I saw
her on Instagram live one day, not Instagram TikTok live,
it was to Talk live and I saw how like,
I don't know, I saw another side of her, like
said this girls, and she's a sales.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Person, a saleswoman like she was just people love you.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Girl, learning from the best teaching her. I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You guys look alike a lot. I mean obviously that's
your mom, right, But I.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Trembled sometimes I see her and I'm like, oh my god,
she's like a little mini me. It's crazy. It's crazy.
I'm trying to teach her the ropes because I feel
like this is an amazing industry. And I remember when
she even like found out that I was working with you.
She was like, oh my god. And then well here
she is now, and it's so crazy, you know. So
she's beautiful and you had her at fourteen. I had
her at fourteen. Yes, we were fighting about the math
(02:33):
this week.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was about to bring it up, but I'm not
gonna bring it up.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Ye bring it up, okay, because we were live today.
And then she was like, oh, I had her when
I was fourteen, which she did, but she found she said,
she found out that she was pregnant with me when
she was fourteen. But I'm a very good math person.
She found out she was pregnant with me at thirteen.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Start bringing it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, she's like fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
She was like, no, it's thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Her birthday's in January. So she turned fourteen a couple
months after she found out that she was pregnant with me.
So I was like, if you put two and two together,
I think I'm right, it's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So she damn okay, baby, we hold lose your mom.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
When she had fifteen two weeks before her sixteenth birthday,
MoMA would always say, oh, I had you at sixteen,
and I was like, Mom, it was two weeks before
your sixteenth birthday. So she had me at fifteen, my
fifteenth birthday, I had a six month old baby.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's so crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, that's definitely had her
before your mom had you.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, And that's why I wanted to talk to you.
I mean, you guys should know who Cindy is. But
Cindy is an Aquarius, right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm actually a Capricorn. You Oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Goodness, Oh my god, why don't we think.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Aquarius because we were like, it's on the cusp. Okay,
So she's a Capricorn. You're an influencer, you have your
own business, so I think you're you're honestly, you're killing it.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I'm glad that you're teaching.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Your daughter all these things because your relationship reminds me
a lot of my relationship with my mom, which is
why I was like, we got to talk about this
because there are others.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
There are other sides of it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, and I wanted to just say, is it
just was it just my relationship with my mom or
does it really exist because you guys are basically growing
up to you guys grow up together?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know? Has that been hard for you? Gouttie? Like
did you feel like does it bother?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You can be honest, you could be honest.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, has it been hard, like in the sense of,
for instance, one thing that I used to hate what
would be like guys would flirt with my mom and this.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is my sister. I am not her sister, her.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Daughter, you know, excuse me mother, you know, But has
that like, I mean, that's just an example. But is
it hard to have such a young, beautiful mom or
is it something that is exciting or you know anything?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I feel like yes and no, because it's like there's
like the good in it. And then there's like times
where I'm like, you know, I'm so proud of my mom,
but I'm just like since I'm like, oh, like everybody
like I don't know, I don't know how to put
it in words, but like sometimes I feel like people
only like know who I am because of my mom.
You know, like there's kids at school that will like
(04:55):
try to be my friend and then at the end
I'll find out like, oh, like they just try to
use me to get closer to my mom.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I'm just like, so, like you're kindly like reminded of.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, but I can understand. But I'm very proud of
my mom. You know, She's come a long way. So
sometimes I'm just like I'm just going to suck it up,
you know, because my mom deserves the world, and if
if that's what it takes for her to get where
she wants to, then she's so much huh.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
She is Like I'm looking at her and I'm like,
I'm already wanting to cry.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
We're going to cry today. Yeah, I can get that.
I can relate to that.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Which it's kind of similar to you because i mean,
obviously I'm like not a celebrity, but you know, it's
like you're a public figure, and like I bet you
were like constantly reminded of like your mom's a public figure,
you know, And sometimes it's like, which is it's not.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
A bad thing, you know, Like I'm so happy for
my mom, but then like you know, like I said,
there's times where I'm just like, like sinces, you just
want to be Yeah, like since I just want to like,
you know, I'm just I'm just scutty, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Like you know, but I get that I was in
my mom's shadow for a long time, and I always
say this. I'm like, I I am so proud of
my mom is, but I also want to be known
for who I am and my accomplishments and what I'm doing,
you know, and growing up, I think before all of
the fame, it was sometimes I did feel like I
was well, we were kind of like sisters, and it
(06:17):
was like I kind of felt like I had to
take care of her sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Do you ever feel like that with your mommy?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:24):
No, honestly, it's like in between. But I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I feel like sometimes you do have to take care
of me, like your mom is so young and you're
you have fun and I love that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, because there's sometimes where it's like, yeah, I guess
you could say sometimes I do have to take care
of it, but it's I love too, you know, I
love my mommy. I would do anything for her, anything
for like.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You, Oh and you got you have a brother, so
you have two kids.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Help your mom a lot with your Oh yeah, yeah,
as the oldest, we have to.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I feel at the beginning it was a little hard
because like I was like, oh, you know, here a
little bit of a hassle. But now it's kind of
like we grew into like where he listens to me
and he you know, he just would chill in my room,
or sometimes he'll be in his room and she'll be like,
where's your brother. I don't even know, mom, I don't
know where he went. I think he's just asleep or
something like he's so chill.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I try not to put him on her a lot, though,
because she's like a little straight a student, and you know,
she like focuses so much on her school and stuff
on herself. And I see her, and you know, I
had her at such a young age, so I mean
to see her be like everything I wasn't like. I
just want to like let her focus on herself so
that she doesn't like get sidetracked or I don't know,
like become rebellious or like. I love that she focuses
(07:37):
so much on herself, So I try to like keep
her brother out of the picture a lot. But she
does take care of us though, like when she has to,
she'll step up.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
She says, I'm like, yeah, just bring me my brother,
like I love my brother. So like I said, like
I'll do anything for her, I'll do anything for him.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yeah, you're a good big sister and a good oldest daughter,
which is great. But I think what your mom means
to do is she doesn't want you to grow up
and resent her. No, maybe because I think for like
a while, I did feel like, oh my gosh, why
am I the old I have to take care of
my siblings?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And it was just and Mom's like, I don't know.
Talk to God. He knows why he made you the
oldest girl. You need to help me.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So it was like cause she was a single mom,
you know, so I was like, okay, but now I'm
like thank you mom, because she was so strict on me.
And she would always say, I'm like, why did weren't
you like this with Jackie with my other sister, and
you know, you were so strict on me. She's like, well,
I molded you. I had I you didn't come with
the manual with you was like what am I going
to do? And then it was just easier with your
other siblings, So I don't at all hold any resentment
(08:28):
if anything. I'm like, I'm so grateful. And going back
to when you were pregnant, was that hard for you
being like did you go to like you finished school
and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I finished school. It was really hard because looking back
at it, like now, I went through a lot of
like my I was still growing up moments when she
was so little, and I'm so glad that she doesn't
remember a lot of that because I feel like a
lot of the times I was just like I was little,
you know, like I don't think I was like grasping
so much for what was happening. So going to school,
(09:01):
I always felt like the auto one out because I
had a baby and stuff like that. But I finished
high school. I really did. But it was tough. I mean,
right now you see us and we're like mom and
daughter and she's like already in high school and stuff
and it's nice, but growing up it was. It was hard.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It's crazy how far we've come.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I know, like, do you have any like core memories
of like am me.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Taking over the podcast?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I love?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I know, yes, please no.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Like, but I didn't want to ask you, like obviously
on the podcast, and so since it's for you and
I like, do you have any like like core memories
like of being little and being like okay, like my
mom's for sure like a teen mom, you know, cause
I feel like when you have an older mom, it's different.
But like, did you ever have like a moment where
you felt like you felt like I was like more
of like a sister, like I do, I see.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I feel like I don't, honestly, like it's so hard
to remember stuff from my childhood. It's honestly, I mean,
I'm still in my childhood, but like but there's moments
where like I do feel like you're not my mom,
like you're just my sister, still my best friend, Yeah,
of course, because it's like I feel like with my
like sometimes like people will be like, how are you
so close to your mom? And she's like because with her,
(10:06):
she makes me feel like I could tell her anything
and like she's not gonna she's not gonna judge me.
She's gonna be my mom and my best friend all
in one, you know. So it's it's it's good that
I feel like if I'm going through something like I
know that I could go to my mom and she's gonna.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Beautiful and a lot of people don't have that baby,
Yeah awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And I feel like she probably feels like that because
I'm telling you, like most of the time that I
was kind of still going through like my growing up.
She was a baby, like she was one, two, three, four,
so she doesn't really remember a lot, but I do
of like me just kind of still being like a kid,
you know, and doing like stupid things like I mean,
going out and drinking and smoking and like all that stuff.
(10:45):
I feel like I stopped early on, thank god, because
she doesn't remember all of that, you know what I mean?
Or do you?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I do, Like, okay, like I don't remember like so much,
but yes there was times where, you know, like you
would have your fun. But I was a baby, so
I really didn't know. But like now, growing up, I
also have to know, like you were also still a baby,
you know, like you were still you were still growing and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, so yeah, it took me a long time to
understand that with my mom because I felt like sometimes
I had to be the parent because I had so
many siblings, you know, so I was like helping, you know,
take care of them, and then I'm like, I started thinking,
I said, well, that's not fair. I mean, you know,
I'm glad my mom didn't have an abortion. She could
have easily said I'm fifteen years old, I'm gonna have
an abortion, and thank goodness she didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm here.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, So I was like, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Like now now I think now I have more compassion
for her where I'm like, when she was out, I
was like, well, I'm so I'm sixteen, I'm supposed to
be out with my friends, and she was living her life.
She was in her early thirties and she was just
partying and everything. And I'm like, well, she didn't have
a childhood, you know, so now unfortunately, and I'm so
glad that you see that you're so mature because that
didn't happen for me until later on in my life.
Where I was like, I kind of was. I was
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tough on my mom, I think, and she would say
that I was like her worst credit because I felt
like I had a girl up so fast.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
So in a way, I was like, damn it. But
now I thank her.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So I love the fact the relationship you guys have
that you give her that space in that room to
come talk to you and she could be herself completely
and that you're showing her the ropes that you're saying, Hey,
this is how you do it. I see it like
on Instagram how gomla Celeras.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And I love that I have. I commend that.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I feel like if I don't like I want to
be everything, I feel like my mom wasn't able to
be for me because I grew up too fast, you know,
like I didn't let myself be fifteen sixteen seventeen with
my mom. Like I grew up and I was like, Okay,
now you're a mom, and you know, Mexican traditional moms
are like okay Athena sequos like, so I didn't allow
myself to have that with my mom. And then my
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mom had you know, five kids, ya handa and everything,
so it was a lot harder for me to have
like that relationship that I have with Gutti. So I'm like,
I have to be this for her because I don't
want to wake up one day and like she's like
out and like trying to party, and I mean, I
know she's going to get there one day, but I'm
trying my hardest to have her like I just try
to remind her, you know, like focus on yourself as
much as you can, because we are like kids a
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lot less than we are adults. And once you're an
adult you can do everything like yeah, but when you're
a kid, I mean that goes by so fast and
you got to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So do you feel that your relationship with Gotti is
so much better because you learn things like how is
your relationship with your mom? I've heard you say a
few things, but and you feutiful comfortable about We don't
have to, but is your hou's relationship now with your mom?
And do you think that relationship helped this relationship?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It does, because I feel like my mom and I
have always done for ever since I was younger, We've
always had a toxic relationship. You could say, I feel
like that teaches me also how to be Like it
tooks to say, but like you go through certain situations
with like your parents and you're like, no, I have
to learn how to be better, and kind of like yeah,
(13:41):
you have to, like come said, I'm having a brain
part break the cycle, you know anywhere, Like our parents
were one way and like they just weren't as like
understanding or as like talkative or like you know, and
stuff like that. But me and my mom right now,
we're working on our relationship, but it has been very
toxic and that has taught me like how not to
be with my kids. I mean, I don't I can't
(14:02):
tell my future, but for now, I feel like I
do see the things that I go through with like
my mom and stuff, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Like, Okay, I I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Want to put my kids through the same relationship. I
love my mom and stuff, but it's just they're very different,
you know. And I know you can relate to that too,
like they're very different harder, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I think that's why I've waited so long to have kids,
And if I could just be honest, I was like,
I don't know if I want to have a daughter
because I'm like, I want to make sure that i'm
older as well, because I don't want to live that again,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now I'm like, again, you grow up and you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Start understanding things differently, Like now I have so much
compassion for my mom because I'm like, damn, she was
so young and she still made it happen, you know,
But growing up, I didn't always see it that way.
And I think That's why I've taken so long to
have kids, because I'm like that shit's hard, you know
what I mean. I raised my siblings and everything. But
but I think that's what our parents want. Ultimately, our
parents want us to be.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Better than they were.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I feel like, like you said, breaking generational curses,
breaking the cycle, and say, Okay, I want to be better.
And if anything is not to say that your mom's
a bad person, it's just they grew up in a
different time as well, you know what I mean, And
like this is where it's it's a beautiful thing where
it's like we live and we learn literally because I
mean imagine you you're fifteen, you would have a little
freaking gatti or you know, I'm just saying, you know
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what I'm saying, Like if she's fifteen, she would have
a little toddler. Like do you think about that sometimes
about like not that you want to have kids, I'm saying,
like how old your mom was when she had you?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And she sometimes I'm like I'll like be doing something
and I'm just like dang, Like I'll be all like
for example, I'll be at keens and I'm like wow,
Like my mom never was able to do this because
she had me like walking around and like she couldn't
go out and live her life. And I'm just like,
I'm so glad that my mom has like taught me
what I shouldn't do, because i always have her in
(15:47):
my head like replaying in my head like you're you're smart,
You're better than this, you know, like don't don't do
something that you're gonna regret, and so that I'm just
like I do not want kids right now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, And she also has other siblings like she has.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah, it's like really, okay, so that's yeah, I have
I have, Yeah, I have like the I have four
other siblings with my dad, and I'm like taking care
of them sometimes too. So they're all younger than you. Yeah,
I'm the oldest out of all my siblings. Yeah, so
I'm like taking care of them. I'm like, yeah, I
really will never want kids. It's a little too because.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You guys have four little I mean four younger I
mean yeah, four younger ones. And then you guys are
both cancers and oh my god, I have a lot
of comming. You guys both have like teen moms.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh my gosh god.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm like you're I see in a weird way,
I see myself in you because you're so mature the
way she speaks, and and like you said, I'm like,
you you, this is good that your mom is so
open with you because you're like, Okay, I I like
your mom wants you to be better than she is
then and then she has been then she you know
what I mean. And I think that that's that's awesome.
But let's be real. Do you guys ever feel any
(16:56):
cellos in any.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Way towards each other? Or do you guys? I mean,
I'm sure you guys share, oh right or something we do.
I steal all her clothes actually, yeah, that's yeah. And
that's me and my mom.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know, a part of me, I will say, a
part of me I see her and I just see
like how like happy you are, and like how much
you just like glow everywhere you are and everything. I'm like, damn,
how come I couldn't like do that when I was younger.
But also, I mean, you have to like take into consideration,
like you know, you have your mom, you have your dad,
like you have all that. I had my mom, but
my mom had five kids and she was always working
(17:28):
like you know, like out in the grape vines and stuff,
so you didn't really have them a lot. Or like
my dad he left me really young, so I had
like trauma from like you know, I had my daddy
issues like since I was little. So I feel like
that's why I grew up like that. But I don't
get jealous of anything. I feel like proud, you know, like, yeah,
you're just doing every, literally every because you could have
turned out the same. Let's be real, you know, or
(17:49):
you could have been like just crazy and like, oh
my god, I think I'm living through her, like I'm
like reliving and I'm so young, so I'm for sure
reliving through her. Like I see her going out and stuff,
and I like hyper up. I'm like you do this?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Do that?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Have fun?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But I fairly go out.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I honestly, I'm a homebody. I don't like girl. I
like to stay home, Like I will pick staying home
and watching movies in my bed all day then to
go out and like party. I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I like to party. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I could rink here in there, but I'm more of like,
if you give me the choice, I want to just
stay in my pea chas, I'll stay in, I'll watch
out Netflix and chill, so I get you to cancher things. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What about you, though, Like how do you feel like
do you feel like there's any like ever jealousy or
like kind of like resentment, a little bit of like,
oh why is my mom? Like so hong.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Like can be like a year old mom honestly, no question. Yeah,
I feel like if I can be honest, like there's
because I don't know if I want to, like okay,
let's just say okay. So I've always been like when
I was maybe like thirteen fourteen, I've always been so
like insecure about myself, okay, And like sometimes I look
at my mom and I'd be like, oh my god,
(18:58):
like she's so beautiful. It's like and then I look
at myself and then I'm gonna cry and I'm like,
I like and then I like look at her and
I think she's so beautiful, And then I look at myself.
I'd be like, why can't I look like her?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
So it's like the only time I get it, I
get it. I get it completely because you do have
a beautiful mama. But let me tell you and I'm
not just saying this because you are so beautiful, gutty,
I'm not even my god like.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
You're you're curvy.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're beautiful to me, and I think it's I mean,
that's how I was because I was.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I mean sometimes I was I had to wear bigger
sizes in my mom, you know, I know, but I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I would think, like certain, so I get her in
that aspect.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
It's hard because we're on social media, you know, and
I feel like obviously me being like.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
An adult or.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Whatever, like I feel like here and there, you know,
you're like I had her so young that I was like, oh,
I'm gonna get my tummy tuck as soon as I
can may and stuff. And but I always remind her
like when I was your age, like I looked like you,
I had your body, I had all of that. But
it's hard when you're on social media because I actually
went through like a twenty pound weight loss, which I'm
so proud of you because you're a beautiful then and
(20:04):
you're beautiful now. But they would come at her and
like why is your mom smaller than you? And like
why is you're not.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
At one point, it got to me like one point,
like before I'd be like, oh, like I just show
the sugar and like not care what they tell me.
But once I started getting older and like I look
at myself more like when they would tell me stuff
like that, it would honestly break my heart and I'd
be like dang, you know, because like I'd always try
to picture myself as such a beautiful girl, which I am.
I feel like I'm very beautiful and you know, but
(20:32):
at one point, I was just like, you know, why
can't I look like these other girls, you know, because
the Internet was really getting to me. But after I
lost like my weight and stuff, I don't think anybody could.
Like I feel like, I'm like yeah, like I feel
like I'm like the most beautiful girl in the you know.
Now I feel confident like now, Like before people would
be like, oh, you're so pretty and I'd be like, oh,
(20:53):
thank you, but like no, and now I'm just like
thank you, like because I feel pretty.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You know, it's beautiful and I feel like you're also
I mean, she was growing, you know, and I feel
like it's just so crazy, like any size is beautiful.
Like I feel like people have made a team, Like
if your mom looks a certain way, like you have
to look like your mom, and you don't like you're
so beautiful the way you are now the way you
were before. But I'm glad in a way. I mean,
I'm not glad that she got attacked that way, but
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it kind of like brought a side out of her
that made her want to like change things about herself.
And she did and everybody just shut up.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Like the gym, yeah, like she's Jimmy, Like I've been
hitting the gym. I've been detox. Seeing all of that literally,
like that made me like change the way I see myself.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So what you did was you took those bad comments
and used it for constructive criticism, which is hard to do.
A lot of people, let me tell you, would have
crawled under a rock gained more weight. But you said,
you know what, Okay, cool, this is gonna I'm gonna
use this as positive reinforcement to say I'm gonna get better,
because that's what I did when people would I'm telling you,
for a long time, I was in my mom's shadow,
(21:59):
and I felt like I'm like, am.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I ever going to be seen for me? Am I ever?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Are people gonna listen to my music is like, oh,
you don't sing like your mom and this and that.
I'm like, okay, First of all, I had to learn
to say, I don't. I'm not my mom. I'm not
gonna sing like my mom. I am myself. And once
I embrace that, and I think that's what you're doing,
it just makes you glow in a different way. So
I honestly around of applause for God, you guys know
that's beautiful because I know people have been you know
(22:25):
how the internet girl. To me, it's a beautiful thing
that we're able to connect with our followers.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But also as.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's like, there are people on there that are so
mean and how can you guys be so fucking mean?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't understand And and you know, for.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Me, I'm like for them to be mean to me
all day long, I don't care. But when it comes
down to your kids, but you have no control over that.
You know, like you could sit there and curse people
out all day long, but the moment that they're seeing
that it's bugging, they're gonna continue doing it. And I
feel like that's what they did to Karina for the
longest time. But I'm just glad that, like I said,
you know, she she's glowing and you know you're in
high school, you're going through all your changes and stuff
(22:59):
like that. I'm just glad that you changed for the better,
like she said, you know, so yeah for schever. Let
that get to you, baby, because you.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Are beautiful and I'm not just saying it. I think
you're very pretty girl since I met you have a
beautiful smile, I have a beautiful personality. So those things
are always going to exists exist, They're not always They're
not gonna go away. I mean, I think when you're
doing something right and people imagine if they didn't talk
about you, it's like an cibns. But if people are
saying stuff, it's because you're doing something that bothers them.
(23:27):
So it's like, as long as you just now you're
really like, you know what, whatever, I'm gonna work on myself.
I would always tell people because they call me father
for like ever on the internet. They still do at
this point, but I'm like, well, can you ever call
me ugly?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You sure can't. Can you call me dumb? You can't?
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm gonna call me fat all you want, because I
saw I'm the Miss Piggy girl. Yeah, I miss Piggy.
And then one day I said, okay, fine, I'm gonna
be Miss Piggy for for for Halloween. I sure did.
I said, Ah, that's the best thing you could do.
I was like, and now I'm cute.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I've always been cute.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Tell me because I know you're er open about your
relationship with Brandon. How has that been, Because I'm gonna
tell you, I was so hard with my mom on
on like her boyfriends.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, you're not bringing them around my siblings
and blah blah blah blah. I could control her.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
She's like, well, I was like, this is my I'm
gonna do whatever I want with it. But how is that?
How has it been difficult to navigate that?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Or?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Honestly, Krana has always been very like quiet about because girl,
I mean, I've lived my life, you know, And I
feel like that's something I could relate to with your
mom too, because I feel like I've gone through it,
like I haven't obviously been married for like the past
fifteen years, as she's been alive, like I've I've lived
my life. It has been a little like I was
to see the CASKM like, oh my god, Like I'm like,
(24:41):
here goes another boyfriend, or like here goes another part
of my life. But you also have to remember me.
I remind myself like I'm still a human and I
had them so young that I'm still living my life
and was no up until now. Yeah Brandon post so
I've seen okay yoh most for a long time and
they love him so much, but growing up. And I
bring this up because I want to ask you to,
(25:02):
like how have you felt? Because I know it's probably
been like uncomfortable. And that's another thing you guys have
in common, you know, is that like you guys have
gone through that you didn't have like the regular mom
and dad that were like married your whole life like
a lot of people do. And I feel like that's
been a tough thing for me. But like I know
that my kids are going to grow up one day
and I know that I still have to live my
life and as long as I take care of them,
(25:23):
like I feel like I don't know they should respect me.
But I also feel like you have your own emotions
and like your own feelings, and how have you felt,
and like how do you feel now? Like how have
you felt with like like my entire life and the
dating and like now like do you feel like.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I don't know how to like put it like in
words though it's like like it didn't it didn't bother me.
I didn't, like I didn't care because like I knew
my when my mom was doing, she was living her life.
But as I don't know that's been honest, like I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
How to put it in wrong words like or there's
some that some boyfriends or something in her past that
were necessarily nice to you guys, and you felt like.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I would say yes, but I would also say no
because I was also very hard when it came to
like my mom getting into a relationship, like I never
I never wanted to like get along with them, like
they would try to like create like some type of
bond with me, and like I would be like, you know,
because I was I was such a daddy's girl. So
it's like knowing that my mom was with another like guy,
I'd be like, no, I don't want you to like
(26:23):
be in my life because I only want my dad
in my life. Like I don't know, like it was
just my thoughts as a little girl, like they would
try to like be like close with me, and I'd
be like no, like get away with get away from me. Yeah,
Like I just didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
So I don't know, Like I feel like that's the
only thing like that. I just never wanted, like to
have bonds with them.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So but change with Brandon, I feel like, but I
do speak.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Oh, I know, me and Brandan Okay. Look. One thing
that I feel like that got me and Branden really
close was our music taste because he literally listens to
similar music to me. So it's like when I have
to go on car rids with him where it's just
me and him, it's not awkward because we listen to
the same music. We'll see, we'll sing the same music,
or we'll talk about something in the car.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
But I do, I do, I do? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
But it's because Brandon is honestly really good at advice.
So I'm just like because he's also still young too,
you know, like they're young, so it's like when I
tell them, like they give me really good advice, you know.
So but I feel like another thing that got me
really close with Brandon is just like I got older,
Like I'm older now, and it's like I think I
see things differently. So, like I gave you a try
to get like a close bond with Brandon, especially because
(27:32):
I felt like he was making my mom really happy,
and you know, I've always wanted my mom to be happy.
So like I tried, and I got really close with
him in like a really short amount of time. And
I was always telling my mom, I need him to
be your boyfriend. I want him to ask you to
be your girlfriend already. And the day that he told
me that he was going to ask her, I was
so happy because, like, I don't know, like him and
my mom were just there's something like I just want.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
To like, they just have so much money.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I love that. I see you so happy, Cindy. How
long have you guys been together?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Almost two years? Wow?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And when you told me his age because I'm dating
a younger guy, we talked about that that's why I
have the same age. Yeah, the same difference, but yeah, yeah,
seven years younger than us. And at first I was like,
oh my god, I don't know, but he's there.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
They're more mature than their age for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And the fact that he like has accepted you with
your two kids I think that says a lot about
him and the fact that your kids love him. To me,
it's like my hat off to him, because I know
it's not easy. And sometimes some of my mom's boyfriends
were mean, yeah, and I would protect my siblings. And
then finally when she did find someone that I thought
was great for her, I was like, oh my god,
thank god. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So I get what you're saying. You're like, I just
want my mom.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
To yeah, which is why I'm like more, Oh, I
was going to say something and like I lost them.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sorry, but no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Having a brain fart too. That's okay. There, I think
I got it, okay. So I feel like that's another
reason why I got a little bit closer with Brandon
is because like he did take us in like if
we were his kids. He's like, yeah, like he's trying,
and he's caring and loving to us like if he's
our like like if we're his kids, you know. So
he's never like failed to make us feel like you
(29:04):
guys are not my kids, so I'm not gonna like
but he shows that he loves us very much. And
I love Brandon a lot, and I'm very grateful to
have him as my second dad.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Brand it is Brandon, Yeah, he really does.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And his family like his brother. His brother is like
my best friend. He's literally my best friend. So because
we're similar in age, he recently just transferred to our
to my school. So now it's like our bond is
just like getting closer and closer as the days go by.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That's awesome. And Mom's getting so emotional over there.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I am because I'm just thinking about like the haunt
ey thing. I just feel like for me, it's very
different with Brandon and the kids because I see how
obsessed they are with him, and I'm like, dang, like this,
I hope this is it for us because I see
how happy they are, and I feel like we've been
through a lot, Like I've put them through a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
And don't say you've put them through a lot.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I have.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know with my life, haven't you were you were,
you were growing, you were grow going along with us
as we were growing, and you didn't know much and
you know.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
You were still a little girl deep inside trying to
I'm still a little girl like your life.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
We know once for you, guys's stability. So she's just
we're all praying that this is.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
She's come such a far, Like it's comes such a
long way, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, Like it's not even Brandon, Like it's just I
think in the moment that we're in in our life
right now is just so beautiful because like even you know,
we just got our house almost a year ago, and
like just I remember like since you know, like she
was a baby and stuff, like we just always moved,
like always moved, always moved, and just being here. I
think it's like such a beautiful moment because like simples, yeah,
(30:38):
like it was always like okay, this is not working out,
We're going to the next place, and like this is
not working out with this relationship, We're going back to
moms and okay, well now it's not working out with
my mom because you know, we don't get along like that.
So now we're going to the next place. So I
feel like we went through all of that that, like
I think getting our house and like just where we're
out with Brandon and us, like you guys, how grown
you guys are and stuff. I feel like we're just
like in such a beautiful moment.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like you have your home stability, that's awesome, and I honestly,
I'm going to tell you here. I was watching your
live the other day. I was doing my makeup too,
and I was like, I'm gonna go on TikTok. It's rare,
you guys, And you were up at eight in the morning,
like we were both doing our makeup and I was
listening to you and I was and I'm like, I
love how raw you are with your followers and how
you're just straight up you know people. Some people can
say oh this and that at the end of the day.
(31:21):
I love that you're like, hey, guys, I really want
to take my kids to Hawaii, like help me to me,
I think, like it makes me like she wants this
is this is something and thanks to all the people
that support must be Cindian and what she does as well,
Like I think that honestly, And you were thanking them
so much, like thank you, thank you. And I'm all
about people being grateful, and I love that about you
because at the end of the day, I saw you
(31:41):
build your pool, you guys, and this is all for you,
Like now you're you're living a different type of life
and this is for your kids. So I'm very I
haven't known you for that long, but I'm very proud
of you.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I am very proud of it.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I like to be as raw as possible with them,
one because I mean, I grew up in the hood,
like I mean, we grew up like you know, broke
and like not having it like you know, so I
know that, like they are real people out there that
support us, and I mean just the way we grow up,
you know, we didn't grow up with money, like, we
didn't grow up having it all together. So it like
built I built that for myself, and I built it
(32:13):
for myself because of them. Because honestly, if ms P
CINDI wouldn't have happened, Like I don't know where we
would be, you know. So for me, like I can't
just take it as like oh they supported me, like good,
like I'm here and like I deserve and like I
just remember, like those are people that are probably going
through things that like I'm going through, and they relate
to me, and like I always like to make sure
to just let them in my life as much as
(32:34):
possible and also just remind them like of how grateful
I am, because I wouldn't be here if it wasn't
for them, you know, I don't even think I would
be the mom that I am, like the woman that
I am, if social media wouldn't have happened for me,
like I swear, you know, cause before that, I feel
like I was like I always had a void and
I feel like I was like a little loss and
like I was just always trying to find myself in
(32:55):
so many like different places where get Nola and you know,
and now you feel that social media like fill that void,
you know, because in our life, I feel like or
in my life, I feel like I have a lot
of void, but I feel like social media, like my
girls like feel that for me. I don't know, It's
just it's so beautiful. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Having an attitude of gratitude is the biggest thing. I feel
like when you do that mass, you know, it's just
being grateful. And it's beautiful that you're building this foundation
now for for Gotti. Because I see Gotti and I
see how she's just glowing as well. And now we
have our collab and shape Wear.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
I'm so excited too.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So I just think it's awesome, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
And how do you feel are you scared to start
being like stepping into this whole influencer thing or you like,
this is what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Oh, I'm not do. I go live at six in
the morning every day on Instagram, and I will talk
to my girls. I will talk to my girls. I
call them my girls too, because I'm like, you know,
like like I don't know. I love it. Honestly, I
feel like I see myself doing it, but then I
also see myself doing like other things that I like
plan on doing, but being an influencer, like following my
(33:59):
mom'sis will definitely be something that I plan on doing
because it's honestly, it's it's like it's such a beautiful
like moment, like going live and like talking to them
and acting with yeah, like it's yeah, comes the hate,
but then there's also the beautiful part.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
There's always gonna be that ten percent of yeah, that
or hating, and that's cool. Just focus on the people
that love you, and I see a lot of people
love you, guys. That's what we got to focus on. Yeah,
And now that we're on this topic, I want to
see if you can tell my listeners maybe people and
I've suffered with this, so I give them advice as
much as I can. But if you can tell the
listeners or people that are watching us, like what you
went through with social media, is there anything that you
(34:37):
could tell them to give them girls your age, It
could be anyone that's suffering with cyber bullying, because I
know what that feels like.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, and I've gone through that too, Like I've gotten
bullied on the internet. But I feel like one thing
I will always say is like, don't let it get
to you, right, But obviously they're going to be hating
because you have something that they don't and they're jealous
of you because you're doing something right and they're probably not.
She's like, just don't want to get to you. You know,
like for anybody that's watching, you know, you're beautiful just
(35:05):
the way you are, and whatever the haters have to say,
let them hate, you know, just just live your life.
Because I went through it where it's like I would
like the haters would get to me and I would
get at Like there was this one time I went
live and like I was having such a bad day
and I was like, you know, I'm gonna go live
because the girls always like just take away like all
my distraction, like they distract me, and there was this
(35:27):
girl that was coming for me. I literally had to
run to the bathroom because I was gonna cry, Like
I wanted to just bom my eyes all in live
because I was like, you guys are freaking getting to
me because I'm having such a bad day that like
I had to go to the restroom and like take
a breather and like just told myself of the mirror,
like don't it get to you, Like you're good, you're beautiful.
This don't let anybody like bring you down. And then
I went back and like I kind of held myself together.
(35:48):
But the world is always gonna have the ugly part.
So I feel like some I've always liked to like
this is a little ghetto. But I've always told people
just thaw.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It out, go out.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I love that, dug out, you know, don't whatever you
know that, but douge it out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
My mom would always say, don't bitch out that, don't
bitch out cheeky's So I always have that in my mind.
So yeah, we gotta thugget out, girl, we gotta thuge
it out.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And sanity.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Is there anything you want to tell other mothers young
moms now that you have this amazing platform because people
always ask me, Chikiz, how do I do it? I
want to be an influencer. I want my own business. Like,
is there any advice that you can give them?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think my advice is definitely if you're a young
mom out there, I know a lot of you guys
probably are going through struggles. You're probably going through something anything.
You're always gonna go through something, You're always gonna have
that mom guiltas keep on going. Do what you love
to do, do it with love, and God's gonna take
you through your blessings. He's gonna take you through your struggles.
(36:47):
He's gonna take you through literally anything you're meant to
go through. Like just like got he said, dug it out,
you know, like write it out. Just don't let the
world get to you whenever they're trying to like bring
you down and things like that. You know, I feel like,
just keep going focused on the positive. And that's like
the best advice I think I could give people.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
For sure, because it's it's tough out there, you guys,
But thank God, this is something I always say the
world is tough, but thank God I'm tougher. So you
know we got this, and guys, thank you so much
for being on my podcast today for coming all the.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Way out here.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I got them sushi, you guys, because I was like
I felt, I was like, I'm gonnat to Starbucks sushi.
Thank you guys so much. If you guys want to share,
please your social media so people can follow, y'all.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Minus must be Cindy and Minus underscore got you with
two eyes Marie on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Marie, that was gonna be my middle name.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Oh my god, girl, you guys close this out being
like super I know well, you guys, thank you so
much for listening and watching Cheeky's and Chill.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I enjoyed this episode and I hope you guys did
as well. This is one that's super fun to my
heart and I just I don't know, I saw a
lot of myself and my mom in them, so honestly,
around of applause, please you guys everyone here in the
studio and I will catch you guys on the next
episode of Cheeky's and chew Asteloego. This is a production
(38:08):
of iHeartRadio and Mike Qutura podcast Network. Follow us on
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