February 16, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode, Rachel Zoe shares about her incredible trip to NYC talking about which fashions shows she went to, which designers she loved and her horrible flight that almost ruined her week... Plus, we celebrate Rachel and Rodger's anniversary!
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Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing In the show's
all about celebrating the most extraordinary superwoman who will be
sharing their incredible journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous. Wow,
what a week it's been. I don't even know if
it's a week. I think it's like two and a
half days. But I'm back from New York Fashion Week,
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so I wanted to give you a little recap of
my trip, including all the shows and events that I
went to, from runways to Valentine's Day. I have a
lot to touch you up on and here to help
me remember all the things I've been up to as
my producer, Mary Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So let's jump right in.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hi, Rachel Zoe. What do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I haven't seen you since what last night?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Maybe not even twenty four hours. We haven't even been
a part for twenty four hours, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I have to say I think that before we jump
into our seventy two hour whirlwind of New York City.
I talk about Mary Elizabeth a lot on the pod.
We've been together eleven years. She's my blood by different
she's my non blood family, you know. But somehow or another,
(02:14):
I think experience more things with her than I have
most of my family. And we have a new one
to share, and I think it has like a trendy
label to it now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's called trauma bonding.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, yeah, it's called trauma bonding.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm not sure that this would have been another way
that I would have liked to have bonded with you.
No thanks, Ever, I'm pretty sure trauma happens not by choice.
And on our way to New York Fashion Week for
those of you that don't know, which most of you
probably don't. A fun fact, although not so fun and
what I'm not that secure about. But I'm a fearful flyer.
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I always have been. I have had to fly my
entire career a billion times, and I like being on land.
But I got the courage. Mary came and flew with
me to New York. I do not fly alone. I
said it, Okay, I shared it. I don't fly alone.
I haven't since nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And now, ladies and gentlemen, she's really not going to
fly alone.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And now I have.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I have reinstated my firm stance and statement I will
not fly alone. So Mary and I experienced If any
of you have heard haven't heard, if any of our
listeners were on the plane, I'm sorry that you went
through this. But we flew a United flight from lax
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to Newark Airport, right outside Manhattan on what was a
beautiful flying day and smooth as silk for the first
four hours of the flight. We literally I just keep
saying it because I keep refeeling it and reliving it.
It was like the Titanic hitting a glacier.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We hit a very severe pocket of turbulence, and like
Rachel said, she has spent the majority of her career
on planes, so she's a pretty cool cucumber. I'm a
little bit more of a nervous flyer, I would say,
but this was something I've never experienced in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It was scary.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, is that no one on that plane nor
the flight attendance had ever experienced that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, so the plane essentially hit a very big air pocket.
We think there was definitely a decel and altitude. There
was definitely a lot of shaking, but the plane sort
of jolted initially, so it was not.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like it was not like a sink or like a lump,
like an air lump.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It was like a boom.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like it was a rash. It was like a crash.
It sounded like that, and then the overhead bins popped open.
Bags are kind of flying out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The reason why it's serious and it sort of scary
is that people were injured, and flight attendants were injured,
and people who weren't buckled were definitely injured. So we're
definitely thinking about all those on the flight that you know,
Rachel and I think God had both of our seat
belts on and we were back in our seats and
had the best outcome you know you could have in
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those situations. But yeah, it was scary.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And our takeaway from that is stay. I don't know
if you're like Mary and I, but we both agreed
and confessed that we are not big seatbelt seatbelt whereas
once we're like in flight, I don't like you roll around.
I'm with the kids, like you know whatever. If I'm
flying with friends, we talked to friends. Let me tell
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you something. I sat down probably three minutes before that happened.
If I did not have my seat belt on, I
would have one thousand percent hit the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So where your seatbelt?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And yeah, keep your seatbelts.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And on the roy home, we did not release our
seatbelts other than to go pee.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah. No, we were buckled in real, real tight on
the way home, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So more al of the story is, guys, you cannot
control turbulence.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You don't know when it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We wanted to share this with you A because we
still have PTSD, and B we're really happy to be
on land and see, we really want you all to
keep your seatbelts on in the air because we were
smooth as silk in bright sunshine and hit this air pocket.
So now we now. Yeah, and by the way, it's
due to climate change and all these other things, which
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is why they're saying this happens more often than it
ever has before.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, I think you said this, but just again to
set the stage. It wasn't There was no weather. It wasn't.
It wasn't like a rain. It wasn't a storm. We
flew through. It was blue sky's great visibility. It was
just bad air. So stay buckled, don't be safe. That's
the takeaway onto.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Happier, onto happier, more materialistic, superficial things exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Gucci. You kicked off New York Fashion Week with a
Gucci event, tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Because that was super fun.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was right off the plane, right off our trauma
and into hair and makeup, and into hair and makeup
and right into Gucci.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like well, like you two hours turnaround. Maybe Yeah it
was tight.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It was tight.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, yep, sweat pants, well not sweatpants, but Kashmir travel
dress into sequence, well like beating like a Vina Gucci
beaded dress that people seem to really like I've had
it for so long, not that I didn't love it,
but like I thought, it was gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's tom Forard for Gucci, right.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, it's it's it's I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Pretty sure that it's tom Board Gucci, but it might
have been.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It might have been tumbled. It was very early, very early.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah. Yeah, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Not like Seventiescooch, like nineties early two thousand Scoucci.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's on Rachel's Instagram. If you're wanting a visual of
the gown, it's posted on her Instagram, so go look
at it. It's really stunning.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So it's really fun. It was great to see everyone,
you know. The thing I like about doing fashion week,
like sort of hard and fast, is like, you know,
I go in and you know, it's like you're in
a mission, like you go, I haven't seen everyone in
a while. It's nice to see everybody out. And it
was beautiful. The store's beautiful. It's on the Wooster Street
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in Soho store. As everybody knows there's a new well
maybe you don't know. There's a new creative director for
Gucci now after Alessandra mckelly. And the collection's beautiful. It's modern,
it's cool. It's a little bit back to sort of
the topboord Gucci vibes combined with you know, his new.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Beautiful take on it. I love it. And it's great
to see everyone.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, everyone was there, like Jessica Chustein and you know,
all the fashion kids, and you know, it was super fun.
And then had a late night with a bunch of
my New York friends. We went to Costa Tipriani and
went to Zero Bond and the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And you know, I remember, Oh, New York. I remember very.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Quickly when I land in New York why I love
it so much and why there's just no place like it.
And you know the old cliche of the city that
does not sleep, It really does not.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Ever, Nor does Rachel. No, You're a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm going to tell you something, guys. Can I tell
you something?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like I've shared on the pod before, I'm not a sleeper,
but let me tell you how bad that jet lag
hits the New York La La New York.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Those three hours are really important. Yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Don't realize it, but if you're someone that goes to
sleep late in La, like at twelve or one that
means three or four in New York. And so there
I was, you know, lying in bed ready to go
dancing at three am and then having to get up,
but like Steven, which is four. So I'm feeling a
bit dazed and confused right now.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But here I am.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Here she is. Also during fashion week was the super Bowl,
or I like to say the Tailor Bowl. Yes, you
watched a little bit of the game, is that right?
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So it's funny.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I had a drink with a friend of mine when
we were at the Fouquette hotel and it was funny.
We walked into the bar, which is so hard to
get into. It's this beautiful, like chef bar at Fouquette
that like always has this weight of people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was empty, and it was so funny because we
walked in.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
We're like, guess, we're the only people in New York
City that really don't care about watching the Super Bowl.
But so then I went up to the room and
I actually did watch and the last quarter, which was
obviously the only part you needed to watch, and it
was so good. Can I say something weird though, go
for it. This is appropriate, but maybe coming from me,
it sounds normal, you know as a mom of two boys. Yep,
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I watch football, which I never do. To be honest,
I love basketball, I love soccer aka football for David
Beckham and everyone else.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And I love tennis. But football, Not to knock the
American sport, but.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like it is the absolute opposite of how we want
to raise our children. I don't want to speak for
the rest of the world, but I know as a
mom of two boys, the last thing I ever want
them to do is play a sport where the goal
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of the game is to freaking tackle each other.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
What are God's given earth? Because anybody thinking to watch
these people wreck each other?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, the world to see it's insane that are being
banged around.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, you're You're definitely not the only one who has
opinions about that. There's a lot of data that now
supports the these brains, braindamn ramas are not good for
these men.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm tackling giant men with other giant men in helmets
and slamming their heads on the ground isn't good for them.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So I just think it's insane.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So there I am watching it, and even as I'm thinking,
like if I'm Taylor swept and I'm watching my boyfriend. Like,
if I'm any I from any of these people, with
anyone you love on that field. But as a mom,
if my son is on that field, I would just
die like I'm nerve wracking.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, one one play can end a career. You
know that's the kind of brading. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Not everyone's Tom Brady, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Crazy? Well, I thought Taylor did look great. I thought
fort but been to a lot of games. She looked good.
She's I like the jeans, I like the corset. I
liked it all.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Listen Taylor Swift to me. You know, she's just Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't I if I had a daughter, I would
want her to worship Taylor Swift. She is an incredible
role model. Her music is great. I've met her several times.
She's lovely, and you know, it's like people can say
anything they want.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That girl works so hard. She is so talented, and
she looks really good. She looked great.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
She looked like someone excited to watch her boyfriend play football.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Like yeah, happiness, Happiness looks real good on those two.
They look very sweet and very yeah, like new love.
It's like funny it's such a it's such a like
you know, prom King and Queen story. I think everyone
that's why everyone's so wrapped up in it. It's like
fairy tale stuff. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
They are very homecoming Queen, they are very homecoming King
and Queen, prom King and Queen. They are very American.
They're just yeah, like essential American. And it's the footballer
and the pop star. Right, So that's a new one.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's a lot. I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Match made in Hollywood Heaven. It's like American David Beckham
and Posh.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right. Oh, that's a good point. I didn't even think
about them as as a parallel.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, that's that's the last athlete pop star connection I
think that I can think of.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But I'm yeah, well there's Russell Wilson and Sierra that's true.
Also amazing, also very epically like hot couple too. Okay,
this is it's funny. We're talking about football and the
contact sport of it all because fashion is also a
contact sport. Because I want you to sort of talk
about the chaos. So Rachel went to a handful of
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shows while she was in New York for fashion. The
first one on the list was Carolina Herrera, which Rachel
can tell you, but literally getting into these shows is
so much more intense than I knew about or envisioned,
like to sort of set the stage, like there are
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cars dropping off all of these fashion people and it's
always on a corner. So the traffic is insane. There's
horns blaring New York City drivers cursing at each other
out the windows to move or pull over. It's mayhem
and it's such a gridlock. Rachel has to like jump
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out of the car really quick, like you all these
camera all these camera men are like snapping photos and
then it's like good luck finding the person of Carolina
to usher you to where you need to be. It's wild.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's a bit Lord of the Flies like it's it's
a bit like intense. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It used to be even worse, I think before social media. Weirdly,
although that said, now with social media, I would say,
now you have like influencers standing in the middle of
the street taking content about.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
To get hit by a car and like, don't care.
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The craziest thing there was people in the middle of
Seventh Avenue at four o'clock on during the week walking
down the street at their photographers taking photo and I'm like,
you are going to get hit and run over?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, and they don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
They are here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
They're like because in New York you cannot make the
false assumption that people are going to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
For you, because they're not. They're not, no, and they're
gonna scream and say get the fuck out of the way,
you know, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So yeah, it's it's it's mental. I have jumped out
of vehicles for my entire career. I mean it's yeah,
it's a little bit like a fashion stump person. You
kind of have to do that because otherwise you have
to go all the way around again, which will take
thirty minutes and you'll miss the show and you'll miss
the show. So I've had to jump out in like
six feet of snow in open toad shoes like a moron,
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like I've done.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It is a contact sport. Tell us about Carolina's show.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Though Carolina's Show, so the new creative director, although not
as new now it's been a few years, a brilliant
talent named Wes Gordon. He has done the most manufcent
job and in the world of succession in fashion in
terms of the name behind the house that was built,
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meaning i e. Carolina Herrera or mister Valentino or whatever.
And I use those two examples because they've really passed
the baton so well. And Carolina Herrera, who to me
is the Queen. I met her twenty five years ago
and she was and still is the most graceful, elegant, funny, witty, badass, polite, kind, graceful,
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all of the amazing things you want Carolina Herrera to be.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
She is.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And she goes to the show and she watches it
front row and it must be so surreal for her
to watch someone else creating for.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Her, right, And we were talking about like if you're
Wes Gordon, like are you still so nervous that she's there?
And like in the row, I have to be yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And he has done the most magnificent job. And I
think when someone assumes that position, which is so hard
and so scary, when you take an iconic brand that's
probably been I don't know forty years in Ralph Lauren's case,
over fifty years, like when that baton is past, that
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person has to carry on the legacy, keeping the integrity
of what was built and the DNA of the brand,
but make it modern and put their own spin on it.
And that is the hardest, hardest challenge to me where
from where I sit just as a designer, and I
think he's done a flawless job.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And I love Carolina Herrera as much.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Looked ever, the looks were gorgeous. How many looks would
you say? There were a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's a big show.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It looked. The finale was very impressive.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It was a lot of you, at least fifty at
least you know, yeahs beautiful just for like the modern
glamorous woman of honestly any age. That's what's so beautiful
about the collection. Like I could see like a sixteen
year old wearing it to a bit event, like the
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little mini dresses and stuff, and then the big gowns
you know, all right, and they're like they're just dreamlike
and just but still so true to Carolina, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, amazing. And then after your Carolina show, you whizzed
up town to go to a luncheon, a quick luncheon
at Sachs with your im for.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Ivan Paul, who is behind the beauty Sandwich, who, as
he says, snatches everybody's face and he does.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
When I say everybody, like everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Like from like I don't know, Selma hayak To, I
mean Jessica Chstein, I mean, you name it. He has
done the face. He's brilliant, and you know, I have
to tell you. I mean, Ivan is someone I think
I was like maybe one of his first clients out here.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And realize that it's like whatever he does.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Which is only topical, your face will never be more
lifted and tight and dewey and ready for a red carpet.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Than when he gets his hands on you.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So Ivan is the master, the face master.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
At sam Much if you want to see all the
people he actually does get his hands on.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, exactly. And then you went to the Tory Bird show.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, that was beautiful and it was twenty years of Tory.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So she showed it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, she showed at the New York Public Library, which
is a gorgeous building.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I Wishtonic married there and Nate and Jared did Maiden
Jared did.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's true. Victoria Beckham used to show there. A lot
of people have shown there. It's such a beautiful venue
and toy again quintessential New York.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, a lot of designers don't show anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I think the ones that do are you know, some
of the ones that have been around for a while,
and then also some newer designers as well.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But Tori's show is great. She got a huge.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Turnout, very modern, had a lot of edge for sure.
It wasn't like a super girly show at all.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, it looked like a little more like sleek, sexy
version of toy.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah it did. There was a lot of grit to
this show. It was very cool. So that was fun.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And then I went on to like my favorite night,
I was going to say, your favorite fashion weeknight always
the most fun the Frame Dinner. For those of you
that know and love Framed Dunham, it's beyond Frame dnhim.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Collection so much now.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, but they always have the best event. They always have.
They are brilliant marketers.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
They take over Indo Sheen, which is one of my
favorite restaurants in Manhattan when I lived there. I'm pretty
sure I was therefore out of seven nights a week,
and it's been around forty years, like literally since Studio
fifty four days.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's iconic and it was the best.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I sat with Ashley Graham and Paul Wesley and you know,
just a great bunch of friends and it was great
to see everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Do you think it? Do you think it's your I'm
just curious why it's your favorite, because you always say
it's your favorite. And is it like the people, is
it like the programming? Like what is it that's the
best about it?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's the easiest because it's always just a fun dinner.
You cocktail for about an hour. I see everyone that
I want to see in one room. It's always an
amazingly curated guest list. Like it's always there's a core
group of us that have been to every single one,
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and there's also like a lot of my brit friends
are there, and like I just get to see all
the people I'm excited to see in one day. And
there's always like newcomers, and but it's fun. You know
Natalie Massinet, who is the original founder of Netta Porte,
who's a very dear friend, and her daughters and her
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boyfriend is Eric Torstensen, who is the founder of Frame
along with Yen's who's now the CEO of Skims.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You've heard of that, and they're brilliant marketers.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
They do creative things, they do just they do great events.
And this one was also co hosted by Giselle because
you know, you've all heard of.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Her, you know her and legend Giselle.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's just fun.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, you always love it. So I'm glad you got
to go to the same energy because it's literally one
of the things she talks about most throughout the years,
the Frame dinner. So glad you got to go. So
you probably had a tiny little intsy bit of a
hangover for Michael Cores the next day. It doesn't stop.
The schedule, sure did. My schedule doesn't stop.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Schedule doesn't stop. Michael Cores was excellent. It was so
much fun. I felt like it was a smaller show.
I feel like everyone's shows are smaller now. Yeah, in
the day, it was like, you know, six rows of
seating and that I have not seen now at all,
And I think people are just tightening up a bit. Yeah,
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you know, I think the industry has changed a lot.
Obviously that's for another pod. But it was so much fun.
I mean, celeb Central, he has amazing women that love
to wear Michael and love to support Michael. But again,
Michael's someone that I will always always have a soft
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spot for because we met when he was the creative
director of Selene and I was living in a building
in the West Village called six six to six Greenwich,
the most fun building, and he lived there as well,
and we were both tanding on the roof on weekends.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was the funniest, loud, funny, charismatic, hardworking, energetic, enthusiastic
person you know as women, and he loves to make
women feel gorgeous and it's all women. He's not there's
no judgment with it, like he just women. You know,
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he's a mama's boy, Like he loves women, and.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So just to definitely like sense that through his brand,
you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I think he loves glamour, and I think he
and I have always connected because we share that love
of like ten and sequins and gold and luxury and all.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The shiny things and you know, more is more.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And I think he's really now become this real go
to for luxury, you know, like New York luxury, American luxury.
And I think he's done a beautiful job and he
has a cult following, and you know, I mean, Blake Lively,
Rachel Brosnahan, Nina Dough, brev I mean, the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Kelsey Larson was there, Yeah, Ray Larson.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Kelsey Ballerini and you know, like Nikki Hilton, and you know,
the list goes on. It's it's super fun show. So
we had a great time and I went backstage to
see him.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So that was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's nice. I'm glad you got to say congratulations to him.
I'm sure he loved getting to see you. And you
can talk about, you know, your tann lines from exactly
although I thought.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I wish I had tann lines right now.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Don't we all? Okay? So then you scuttled uptown to
the Todd's event.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh my god, that was also so fun. That was
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So Diego de Valler just announced that he will be
taking his company. It was public, now he's taking it private.
It was announced the day of his event and the
Human Too New York and had a very splashy event
at the New Todds store on Madison Avenue, and then
we went for an even splashier beautiful dinner at the
(27:38):
Mark Hotel, which is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's just stunning hotel.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, it's just the most gorgeous hotel. I love the Mark.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
For our listeners. The Mark is the hotel you see
a lot of celebrities coming out of on their way
to the met Ball. It's like that hotel is where
a lot of them are, like photographers are stationed outside
to get in the car.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And the Carlisle, the Carlisle, Yeah, yeah, sure, very glamorous,
very glamorous.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And then that dinner was incredible.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean it was like Elizabeth Hurley and Uma Thurman
and I sat at the most fun table, which I'm
just calling the kids table because we the kids kind of.
I was literally sitting with Elizabeth Hurley's son, Damon, who
I'm gonna just call it out now is one of
(28:30):
my best friends.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Now he shout out, we fell in love. He's a doll.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He's so beautiful too. I mean obviously, but.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I was like, your cheekbones are higher than the sky.
But we had so much fun. I was sitting with
Derek Glassberg you may or may not have heard of him,
and uh my friend Vanessa Trina and b Schaeffer and
we just you know, we had we She's had a
great time It's like one of those really really fun dinners.
(29:03):
Had to cap the night off, and I was out
of there from uptown and went to the bottom of
Manhattan literally because I believe very strongly in showing up
for my friends, and in this case, I needed to
leave the Todd's dinner and go to the presentation at
a place called The Box, which is basically like a
(29:25):
burlesque like cabaret type place.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
On the Lower East Side.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's putting it PG everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, The Box is in.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I haven't been there is X rated entertainment venue. Let's
call it that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't think I've been there in fifteen years at least.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And my very dear friend Rebecca Hussel Cohen, who is
the creative director founder of Love Shack Fancy Again, another
brand you may or may not heard of.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
My guess is you have well because she's a friend
the pod we've interviewed her.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
It is true and her story is amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And then our mutual best friend Martola, who is an
insane dancer and choreographer and now creative director of major events.
Most recently creative directed the new show of Ryan Murphy, The.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Oh, The Feud, The Capoti versus swanpea.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Creative directed this huge event at the Plaza celebrating that
opening anyway, so she choreographed and creative directed this entire
show and event presentation with Rebecca, And it was all
these incredible models and dancers and dripping and pink bows
and pink lace and pink everything and all the things.
And I went down there around like eleven PM and
(30:44):
stayed there for a while and we just danced and
danced the night away.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
To quote Dua lipa, I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And then you and I jumped on a plane holding hands,
a little nervous, a little PTSD to go to the
most important event you had this week, which.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Was it was I raced over, we landed and literally.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Manifested the bags.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, yes, manifested our luggage to get out.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Quickly jumped in.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
The car and went to surprise Caius at his school
and brought Valentine's Day treats for his class, so I
would make it to the Valentine's party, because you know,
I'm mom real hard, So you know.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's what it's like to be Rachel. Though one day
you're at Michael Cors, one day you're at a burlesque
show and then you're serving cookies at a Valentine's Day
party for a group of fourth graders.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I mean, it was so worth it, though, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so glad you pulled off the surprise. Rachel was
very nervous. She wasn't going to make it, but she
ended up making it, which is so fun.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
By the skin of my yeah, I will say it
was kind of humorous walking into school in like seventy
degree weather in a long black cashmir dress and a
massive like fauffur and boots.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's like.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This is all board or anything, and fully exhausted and
over caffeinated. I'm sure, I'm sure. Well, our listeners will
see this later on social but happy anniversary to Rachel
Zoe and Roger Burman. They are celebrating their wedding anniversary
this week. Also, how many.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Years twenty six years today.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Married and that means over thirty together?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It does?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It means thirty Oh god, it means thirty three years together.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Wow. Wow, you're definitely breaking all Hollywood records and standards
for staying married and staying together. Happy anniversary to the
Love Boyds.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Thank you, my love.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
All right, well, I wish everyone a beautiful week, and
we will see you next week with a super fun guest.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's fine, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Thank you so much for listening to the pod today.
Don't forget to write a review. Wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I love seeing them while you're at it.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
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sharing their incredible journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous. Wow,
what a week it's been. I don't even know if
it's a week. I think it's like two and a
half days. But I'm back from New York Fashion Week,
(01:17):
so I wanted to give you a little recap of
my trip, including all the shows and events that I
went to, from runways to Valentine's Day. I have a
lot to touch you up on and here to help
me remember all the things I've been up to as
my producer, Mary Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So let's jump right in.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hi, Rachel Zoe. What do you know?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I haven't seen you since what last night?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Maybe not even twenty four hours. We haven't even been
a part for twenty four hours, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I have to say I think that before we jump
into our seventy two hour whirlwind of New York City.
I talk about Mary Elizabeth a lot on the pod.
We've been together eleven years. She's my blood by different
she's my non blood family, you know. But somehow or another,
(02:14):
I think experience more things with her than I have
most of my family. And we have a new one
to share, and I think it has like a trendy
label to it now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's called trauma bonding.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, yeah, it's called trauma bonding.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm not sure that this would have been another way
that I would have liked to have bonded with you.
No thanks, Ever, I'm pretty sure trauma happens not by choice.
And on our way to New York Fashion Week for
those of you that don't know, which most of you
probably don't. A fun fact, although not so fun and
what I'm not that secure about. But I'm a fearful flyer.
(02:53):
I always have been. I have had to fly my
entire career a billion times, and I like being on land.
But I got the courage. Mary came and flew with
me to New York. I do not fly alone. I
said it, Okay, I shared it. I don't fly alone.
I haven't since nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And now, ladies and gentlemen, she's really not going to
fly alone.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And now I have.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I have reinstated my firm stance and statement I will
not fly alone. So Mary and I experienced If any
of you have heard haven't heard, if any of our
listeners were on the plane, I'm sorry that you went
through this. But we flew a United flight from lax
(03:41):
to Newark Airport, right outside Manhattan on what was a
beautiful flying day and smooth as silk for the first
four hours of the flight. We literally I just keep
saying it because I keep refeeling it and reliving it.
It was like the Titanic hitting a glacier.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
We hit a very severe pocket of turbulence, and like
Rachel said, she has spent the majority of her career
on planes, so she's a pretty cool cucumber. I'm a
little bit more of a nervous flyer, I would say,
but this was something I've never experienced in my life.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
It was scary.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, is that no one on that plane nor
the flight attendance had ever experienced that.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, so the plane essentially hit a very big air pocket.
We think there was definitely a decel and altitude. There
was definitely a lot of shaking, but the plane sort
of jolted initially, so it was not.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like it was not like a sink or like a lump,
like an air lump.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It was like a boom.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like it was a rash. It was like a crash.
It sounded like that, and then the overhead bins popped open.
Bags are kind of flying out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Literally.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The reason why it's serious and it sort of scary
is that people were injured, and flight attendants were injured,
and people who weren't buckled were definitely injured. So we're
definitely thinking about all those on the flight that you know,
Rachel and I think God had both of our seat
belts on and we were back in our seats and
had the best outcome you know you could have in
(05:23):
those situations. But yeah, it was scary.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And our takeaway from that is stay. I don't know
if you're like Mary and I, but we both agreed
and confessed that we are not big seatbelt seatbelt whereas
once we're like in flight, I don't like you roll around.
I'm with the kids, like you know whatever. If I'm
flying with friends, we talked to friends. Let me tell
(05:48):
you something. I sat down probably three minutes before that happened.
If I did not have my seat belt on, I
would have one thousand percent hit the ceiling.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So where your seatbelt?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And yeah, keep your seatbelts.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And on the roy home, we did not release our
seatbelts other than to go pee.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah. No, we were buckled in real, real tight on
the way home, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So more al of the story is, guys, you cannot
control turbulence.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You don't know when it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We wanted to share this with you A because we
still have PTSD, and B we're really happy to be
on land and see, we really want you all to
keep your seatbelts on in the air because we were
smooth as silk in bright sunshine and hit this air pocket.
So now we now. Yeah, and by the way, it's
due to climate change and all these other things, which
(06:42):
is why they're saying this happens more often than it
ever has before.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, I think you said this, but just again to
set the stage. It wasn't There was no weather. It wasn't.
It wasn't like a rain. It wasn't a storm. We
flew through. It was blue sky's great visibility. It was
just bad air. So stay buckled, don't be safe. That's
the takeaway onto.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Happier, onto happier, more materialistic, superficial things exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Gucci. You kicked off New York Fashion Week with a
Gucci event, tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Because that was super fun.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I was right off the plane, right off our trauma
and into hair and makeup, and into hair and makeup
and right into Gucci.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like well, like you two hours turnaround. Maybe Yeah it
was tight.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It was tight.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, yep, sweat pants, well not sweatpants, but Kashmir travel
dress into sequence, well like beating like a Vina Gucci
beaded dress that people seem to really like I've had
it for so long, not that I didn't love it,
but like I thought, it was gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's tom Forard for Gucci, right.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, it's it's it's I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Pretty sure that it's tom Board Gucci, but it might
have been.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It might have been tumbled. It was very early, very early.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah. Yeah, it's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Not like Seventiescooch, like nineties early two thousand Scoucci.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It's on Rachel's Instagram. If you're wanting a visual of
the gown, it's posted on her Instagram, so go look
at it. It's really stunning.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So it's really fun. It was great to see everyone,
you know. The thing I like about doing fashion week,
like sort of hard and fast, is like, you know,
I go in and you know, it's like you're in
a mission, like you go, I haven't seen everyone in
a while. It's nice to see everybody out. And it
was beautiful. The store's beautiful. It's on the Wooster Street
(08:43):
in Soho store. As everybody knows there's a new well
maybe you don't know. There's a new creative director for
Gucci now after Alessandra mckelly. And the collection's beautiful. It's modern,
it's cool. It's a little bit back to sort of
the topboord Gucci vibes combined with you know, his new.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Beautiful take on it. I love it. And it's great
to see everyone.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, everyone was there, like Jessica Chustein and you know,
all the fashion kids, and you know, it was super fun.
And then had a late night with a bunch of
my New York friends. We went to Costa Tipriani and
went to Zero Bond and the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And you know, I remember, Oh, New York. I remember very.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Quickly when I land in New York why I love
it so much and why there's just no place like it.
And you know the old cliche of the city that
does not sleep, It really does not.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Ever, Nor does Rachel. No, You're a match made in heaven.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm going to tell you something, guys. Can I tell
you something?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like I've shared on the pod before, I'm not a sleeper,
but let me tell you how bad that jet lag
hits the New York La La New York.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Those three hours are really important. Yeah, and you.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Don't realize it, but if you're someone that goes to
sleep late in La, like at twelve or one that
means three or four in New York. And so there
I was, you know, lying in bed ready to go
dancing at three am and then having to get up,
but like Steven, which is four. So I'm feeling a
bit dazed and confused right now.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But here I am.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Here she is. Also during fashion week was the super Bowl,
or I like to say the Tailor Bowl. Yes, you
watched a little bit of the game, is that right?
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So it's funny.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I had a drink with a friend of mine when
we were at the Fouquette hotel and it was funny.
We walked into the bar, which is so hard to
get into. It's this beautiful, like chef bar at Fouquette
that like always has this weight of people.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was empty, and it was so funny because we
walked in.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
We're like, guess, we're the only people in New York
City that really don't care about watching the Super Bowl.
But so then I went up to the room and
I actually did watch and the last quarter, which was
obviously the only part you needed to watch, and it
was so good. Can I say something weird though, go
for it. This is appropriate, but maybe coming from me,
it sounds normal, you know as a mom of two boys. Yep,
(11:20):
I watch football, which I never do. To be honest,
I love basketball, I love soccer aka football for David
Beckham and everyone else.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And I love tennis. But football, Not to knock the
American sport, but.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like it is the absolute opposite of how we want
to raise our children. I don't want to speak for
the rest of the world, but I know as a
mom of two boys, the last thing I ever want
them to do is play a sport where the goal
(12:02):
of the game is to freaking tackle each other.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
What are God's given earth? Because anybody thinking to watch
these people wreck each other?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, the world to see it's insane that are being
banged around.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, you're You're definitely not the only one who has
opinions about that. There's a lot of data that now
supports the these brains, braindamn ramas are not good for
these men.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'm tackling giant men with other giant men in helmets
and slamming their heads on the ground isn't good for them.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So I just think it's insane.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So there I am watching it, and even as I'm thinking,
like if I'm Taylor swept and I'm watching my boyfriend. Like,
if I'm any I from any of these people, with
anyone you love on that field. But as a mom,
if my son is on that field, I would just
die like I'm nerve wracking.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, one one play can end a career. You
know that's the kind of brading. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Not everyone's Tom Brady, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Crazy? Well, I thought Taylor did look great. I thought
fort but been to a lot of games. She looked good.
She's I like the jeans, I like the corset. I
liked it all.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Listen Taylor Swift to me. You know, she's just Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't I if I had a daughter, I would
want her to worship Taylor Swift. She is an incredible
role model. Her music is great. I've met her several times.
She's lovely, and you know, it's like people can say
anything they want.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That girl works so hard. She is so talented, and
she looks really good. She looked great.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
She looked like someone excited to watch her boyfriend play football.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Like yeah, happiness, Happiness looks real good on those two.
They look very sweet and very yeah, like new love.
It's like funny it's such a it's such a like
you know, prom King and Queen story. I think everyone
that's why everyone's so wrapped up in it. It's like
fairy tale stuff. You know.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
They are very homecoming Queen, they are very homecoming King
and Queen, prom King and Queen. They are very American.
They're just yeah, like essential American. And it's the footballer
and the pop star. Right, So that's a new one.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It's a lot. I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Match made in Hollywood Heaven. It's like American David Beckham
and Posh.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right. Oh, that's a good point. I didn't even think
about them as as a parallel.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, that's that's the last athlete pop star connection I
think that I can think of.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But I'm yeah, well there's Russell Wilson and Sierra that's true.
Also amazing, also very epically like hot couple too. Okay,
this is it's funny. We're talking about football and the
contact sport of it all because fashion is also a
contact sport. Because I want you to sort of talk
about the chaos. So Rachel went to a handful of
(15:08):
shows while she was in New York for fashion. The
first one on the list was Carolina Herrera, which Rachel
can tell you, but literally getting into these shows is
so much more intense than I knew about or envisioned,
like to sort of set the stage, like there are
(15:29):
cars dropping off all of these fashion people and it's
always on a corner. So the traffic is insane. There's
horns blaring New York City drivers cursing at each other
out the windows to move or pull over. It's mayhem
and it's such a gridlock. Rachel has to like jump
(15:51):
out of the car really quick, like you all these
camera all these camera men are like snapping photos and
then it's like good luck finding the person of Carolina
to usher you to where you need to be. It's wild.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It's a bit Lord of the Flies like it's it's
a bit like intense. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It used to be even worse, I think before social media. Weirdly,
although that said, now with social media, I would say,
now you have like influencers standing in the middle of
the street taking content about.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
To get hit by a car and like, don't care.
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
The craziest thing there was people in the middle of
Seventh Avenue at four o'clock on during the week walking
down the street at their photographers taking photo and I'm like,
you are going to get hit and run over?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, and they don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
They are here.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
They're like because in New York you cannot make the
false assumption that people are going to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
For you, because they're not. They're not, no, and they're
gonna scream and say get the fuck out of the way,
you know, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So yeah, it's it's it's mental. I have jumped out
of vehicles for my entire career. I mean it's yeah,
it's a little bit like a fashion stump person. You
kind of have to do that because otherwise you have
to go all the way around again, which will take
thirty minutes and you'll miss the show and you'll miss
the show. So I've had to jump out in like
six feet of snow in open toad shoes like a moron,
(17:18):
like I've done.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It is a contact sport. Tell us about Carolina's show.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Though Carolina's Show, so the new creative director, although not
as new now it's been a few years, a brilliant
talent named Wes Gordon. He has done the most manufcent
job and in the world of succession in fashion in
terms of the name behind the house that was built,
(17:47):
meaning i e. Carolina Herrera or mister Valentino or whatever.
And I use those two examples because they've really passed
the baton so well. And Carolina Herrera, who to me
is the Queen. I met her twenty five years ago
and she was and still is the most graceful, elegant, funny, witty, badass, polite, kind, graceful,
(18:17):
all of the amazing things you want Carolina Herrera to be.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
She is.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And she goes to the show and she watches it
front row and it must be so surreal for her
to watch someone else creating for.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Her, right, And we were talking about like if you're
Wes Gordon, like are you still so nervous that she's there?
And like in the row, I have to be yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
And he has done the most magnificent job. And I
think when someone assumes that position, which is so hard
and so scary, when you take an iconic brand that's
probably been I don't know forty years in Ralph Lauren's case,
over fifty years, like when that baton is past, that
(19:03):
person has to carry on the legacy, keeping the integrity
of what was built and the DNA of the brand,
but make it modern and put their own spin on it.
And that is the hardest, hardest challenge to me where
from where I sit just as a designer, and I
think he's done a flawless job.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And I love Carolina Herrera as much.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Looked ever, the looks were gorgeous. How many looks would
you say? There were a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's a big show.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It looked. The finale was very impressive.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It was a lot of you, at least fifty at
least you know, yeahs beautiful just for like the modern
glamorous woman of honestly any age. That's what's so beautiful
about the collection. Like I could see like a sixteen
year old wearing it to a bit event, like the
(20:01):
little mini dresses and stuff, and then the big gowns
you know, all right, and they're like they're just dreamlike
and just but still so true to Carolina, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, amazing. And then after your Carolina show, you whizzed
up town to go to a luncheon, a quick luncheon
at Sachs with your im for.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Ivan Paul, who is behind the beauty Sandwich, who, as
he says, snatches everybody's face and he does.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
When I say everybody, like everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Like from like I don't know, Selma hayak To, I
mean Jessica Chstein, I mean, you name it. He has
done the face. He's brilliant, and you know, I have
to tell you. I mean, Ivan is someone I think
I was like maybe one of his first clients out here.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And realize that it's like whatever he does.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Which is only topical, your face will never be more
lifted and tight and dewey and ready for a red carpet.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Than when he gets his hands on you.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So Ivan is the master, the face master.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
At sam Much if you want to see all the
people he actually does get his hands on.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, exactly. And then you went to the Tory Bird show.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, that was beautiful and it was twenty years of Tory.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
So she showed it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, she showed at the New York Public Library, which
is a gorgeous building.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I Wishtonic married there and Nate and Jared did Maiden
Jared did.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's true. Victoria Beckham used to show there. A lot
of people have shown there. It's such a beautiful venue
and toy again quintessential New York.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, a lot of designers don't show anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I think the ones that do are you know, some
of the ones that have been around for a while,
and then also some newer designers as well.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
But Tori's show is great. She got a huge.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Turnout, very modern, had a lot of edge for sure.
It wasn't like a super girly show at all.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, it looked like a little more like sleek, sexy
version of toy.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah it did. There was a lot of grit to
this show. It was very cool. So that was fun.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And then I went on to like my favorite night,
I was going to say, your favorite fashion weeknight always
the most fun the Frame Dinner. For those of you
that know and love Framed Dunham, it's beyond Frame dnhim.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's just a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Collection so much now.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, but they always have the best event. They always have.
They are brilliant marketers.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They do.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
They take over Indo Sheen, which is one of my
favorite restaurants in Manhattan when I lived there. I'm pretty
sure I was therefore out of seven nights a week,
and it's been around forty years, like literally since Studio
fifty four days.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's iconic and it was the best.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I sat with Ashley Graham and Paul Wesley and you know,
just a great bunch of friends and it was great
to see everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Do you think it? Do you think it's your I'm
just curious why it's your favorite, because you always say
it's your favorite. And is it like the people, is
it like the programming? Like what is it that's the
best about it?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's the easiest because it's always just a fun dinner.
You cocktail for about an hour. I see everyone that
I want to see in one room. It's always an
amazingly curated guest list. Like it's always there's a core
group of us that have been to every single one,
(23:30):
and there's also like a lot of my brit friends
are there, and like I just get to see all
the people I'm excited to see in one day. And
there's always like newcomers, and but it's fun. You know
Natalie Massinet, who is the original founder of Netta Porte,
who's a very dear friend, and her daughters and her
(23:51):
boyfriend is Eric Torstensen, who is the founder of Frame
along with Yen's who's now the CEO of Skims.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You've heard of that, and they're brilliant marketers.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
They do creative things, they do just they do great events.
And this one was also co hosted by Giselle because
you know, you've all heard of.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Her, you know her and legend Giselle.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's just fun.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, you always love it. So I'm glad you got
to go to the same energy because it's literally one
of the things she talks about most throughout the years,
the Frame dinner. So glad you got to go. So
you probably had a tiny little intsy bit of a
hangover for Michael Cores the next day. It doesn't stop.
The schedule, sure did. My schedule doesn't stop.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Schedule doesn't stop. Michael Cores was excellent. It was so
much fun. I felt like it was a smaller show.
I feel like everyone's shows are smaller now. Yeah, in
the day, it was like, you know, six rows of
seating and that I have not seen now at all,
And I think people are just tightening up a bit. Yeah,
(24:57):
you know, I think the industry has changed a lot.
Obviously that's for another pod. But it was so much fun.
I mean, celeb Central, he has amazing women that love
to wear Michael and love to support Michael. But again,
Michael's someone that I will always always have a soft
(25:17):
spot for because we met when he was the creative
director of Selene and I was living in a building
in the West Village called six six to six Greenwich,
the most fun building, and he lived there as well,
and we were both tanding on the roof on weekends.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was the funniest, loud, funny, charismatic, hardworking, energetic, enthusiastic
person you know as women, and he loves to make
women feel gorgeous and it's all women. He's not there's
no judgment with it, like he just women. You know,
(25:57):
he's a mama's boy, Like he loves women, and.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So just to definitely like sense that through his brand,
you know, yes.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I think he loves glamour, and I think he
and I have always connected because we share that love
of like ten and sequins and gold and luxury and all.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
The shiny things and you know, more is more.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And I think he's really now become this real go
to for luxury, you know, like New York luxury, American luxury.
And I think he's done a beautiful job and he
has a cult following, and you know, I mean, Blake Lively,
Rachel Brosnahan, Nina Dough, brev I mean, the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Kelsey Larson was there, Yeah, Ray Larson.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Kelsey Ballerini and you know, like Nikki Hilton, and you know,
the list goes on. It's it's super fun show. So
we had a great time and I went backstage to
see him.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So that was fun.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That's nice. I'm glad you got to say congratulations to him.
I'm sure he loved getting to see you. And you
can talk about, you know, your tann lines from exactly
although I thought.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I wish I had tann lines right now.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Don't we all? Okay? So then you scuttled uptown to
the Todd's event.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh my god, that was also so fun. That was
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So Diego de Valler just announced that he will be
taking his company. It was public, now he's taking it private.
It was announced the day of his event and the
Human Too New York and had a very splashy event
at the New Todds store on Madison Avenue, and then
we went for an even splashier beautiful dinner at the
(27:38):
Mark Hotel, which is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's just stunning hotel.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, it's just the most gorgeous hotel. I love the Mark.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
For our listeners. The Mark is the hotel you see
a lot of celebrities coming out of on their way
to the met Ball. It's like that hotel is where
a lot of them are, like photographers are stationed outside
to get in the car.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And the Carlisle, the Carlisle, Yeah, yeah, sure, very glamorous,
very glamorous.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And then that dinner was incredible.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I mean it was like Elizabeth Hurley and Uma Thurman
and I sat at the most fun table, which I'm
just calling the kids table because we the kids kind of.
I was literally sitting with Elizabeth Hurley's son, Damon, who
I'm gonna just call it out now is one of
(28:30):
my best friends.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Now he shout out, we fell in love. He's a doll.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He's so beautiful too. I mean obviously, but.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I was like, your cheekbones are higher than the sky.
But we had so much fun. I was sitting with
Derek Glassberg you may or may not have heard of him,
and uh my friend Vanessa Trina and b Schaeffer and
we just you know, we had we She's had a
great time It's like one of those really really fun dinners.
(29:03):
Had to cap the night off, and I was out
of there from uptown and went to the bottom of
Manhattan literally because I believe very strongly in showing up
for my friends, and in this case, I needed to
leave the Todd's dinner and go to the presentation at
a place called The Box, which is basically like a
(29:25):
burlesque like cabaret type place.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
On the Lower East Side.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's putting it PG everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, The Box is in.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I haven't been there is X rated entertainment venue. Let's
call it that.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't think I've been there in fifteen years at least.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And my very dear friend Rebecca Hussel Cohen, who is
the creative director founder of Love Shack Fancy Again, another
brand you may or may not heard of.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
My guess is you have well because she's a friend
the pod we've interviewed her.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
It is true and her story is amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And then our mutual best friend Martola, who is an
insane dancer and choreographer and now creative director of major events.
Most recently creative directed the new show of Ryan Murphy, The.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Oh, The Feud, The Capoti versus swanpea.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Creative directed this huge event at the Plaza celebrating that
opening anyway, so she choreographed and creative directed this entire
show and event presentation with Rebecca, And it was all
these incredible models and dancers and dripping and pink bows
and pink lace and pink everything and all the things.
And I went down there around like eleven PM and
(30:44):
stayed there for a while and we just danced and
danced the night away.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
To quote Dua lipa, I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And then you and I jumped on a plane holding hands,
a little nervous, a little PTSD to go to the
most important event you had this week, which.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Was it was I raced over, we landed and literally.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Manifested the bags.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, yes, manifested our luggage to get out.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Quickly jumped in.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
The car and went to surprise Caius at his school
and brought Valentine's Day treats for his class, so I
would make it to the Valentine's party, because you know,
I'm mom real hard, So you know.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's what it's like to be Rachel. Though one day
you're at Michael Cors, one day you're at a burlesque
show and then you're serving cookies at a Valentine's Day
party for a group of fourth graders.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I mean, it was so worth it, though, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so glad you pulled off the surprise. Rachel was
very nervous. She wasn't going to make it, but she
ended up making it, which is so fun.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
By the skin of my yeah, I will say it
was kind of humorous walking into school in like seventy
degree weather in a long black cashmir dress and a
massive like fauffur and boots.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's like.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
This is all board or anything, and fully exhausted and
over caffeinated. I'm sure, I'm sure. Well, our listeners will
see this later on social but happy anniversary to Rachel
Zoe and Roger Burman. They are celebrating their wedding anniversary
this week. Also, how many.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Years twenty six years today.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Married and that means over thirty together?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It does?
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It means thirty Oh god, it means thirty three years together.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Wow. Wow, you're definitely breaking all Hollywood records and standards
for staying married and staying together. Happy anniversary to the
Love Boyds.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Thank you, my love.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
All right, well, I wish everyone a beautiful week, and
we will see you next week with a super fun guest.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's fine, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Thank you so much for listening to the pod today.
Don't forget to write a review. Wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I love seeing them while you're at it.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Follow me on at Rachel Zo and at Climbing in
Heels pod on Instagram for more updates on upcoming guests, episodes,
and all things cure Tor and I will see you
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