Club Shay Shay - Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford Part 2 - Club Shay Shay

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Think you for you're coming back? Part two is underway.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Why don't you think older that great fighters want to
give these young and up and comers an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
I don't think it's that they want to give them.
It's just the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
They pay you a lot of money probably for taking
the risk, you know, and some older fighters want to
test test theirselfs and see if they still got it.
And it's and it's a business. Everybody know what what
we're doing it for. We like pit bulls, you know.
You see you see a pit bull, they got their ring,

(00:36):
they got their judge, and you know, they got the
crowd around them to send them out there to kill
each other. That's what. That's the same way with us.
You know, then this pit bull lose or they kick
them out, I don't. I can't use you no more,
see you know. And the promoters it's the same way
when you lose that the promoters don't want nothing to

(00:57):
deal with you know.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's why I was going big other scene. If you
you remember, if you go back and look at the seventies,
they were heavyweights dominated. They fought all LEI fought Fraser
and Norton thought this when in Foreman fought that would
in Shavers and so forth and so on, And then
you had the eighties and you had the Four Kings
and they fought.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
God, why they don't want to? I mean the money,
you could make money.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's all about money, you know what I mean. At
the end of the day, when you look at the politics,
they all say, oh, well, this from Mooter got these fighters,
this promoter got these fighters. I don't want to share
it with you. You don't want to share it with me.
So I'm an in house all these fighters unless some

(01:47):
drastic amount of money can come and then we can
both be successful on this on this fight, right, But
I don't want to give you leverage and your fighter
taking my time my fighter's title. Now, I don't have
no title.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I don't have no leverage now.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
So if I have six, well toweight contenders like PBC had,
and you got two, well yeah too, because many pack
y'all left top rank and went to PBC. You got
two Jeff Horn and Terrence Crawford. I fight Jeff Horn,

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they freeze me out, they fight each other. Well, I'm
just sitting there, hey man, I want to fight him
on you on the w own side of the street. Wow,
I want to fight him. No, you're on the wrong
side of the street. Where the fuck did the wrong
side of the street come in to play in the
sport of boxing? You know that's how it goes. But

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then when you know it makes sense, Mandy Pack, y'all,
Floyd Mayweather, then the two parties can come together and
make it happen because it's enough.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Because so much money is involved, because so because I
was looking at it like this, and it seemed like
Floyd and I love Floyd, but it seemed like everybody's
afraid to have that oh, to have a one or
two where the old used to be because so now
and like you said, like bro A, the promoters don't
want you anymore, and maybe people don't think you is
as good as you once was if you don't have that,

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don't have that unblemish mark.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
But got it used to be like that?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Terrence for All, lead lost, Sugar Ray loss, Hagler loss,
Hearn's lost. Got these guys lost? When did the OH
become the end all be all?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Think?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think Mayweather, you know, and how he made it
big to the public like forty seven and tried forty
seven have failed and then it got all the way
to fifty.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
And it's like, you know, break Marciango's record.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
None, I retire, unblemish, andre Ward unblemish, you know, Joe
Kyles unblemish, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
And it's like.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
When people look at him, they be like, man, that
dude never lost it before. You know, people can't say that.
You know, a lot of people can't say that when
you look at like Ali, Roy Jones Jr. You know,
all the all the greats. Back in the day they lost, yes,
but that's something that Joe Kyle, Zaggy, andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather,

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they can say, I never lost. So now when the
kids looking up to him, they say, man, I want
to be like, damn, I don't want to lose. I
don't want to lose because now society has shaped things
to where if a fighter lose, they talk so bad
about all he's a bomb. I knew he was an
overrated or y'all hiked him up, and now they got

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to hear it. But back in the day, they ain't
even have social media, you know what I mean, So
all that wasn't in their face, but now it's in
their face. They see it. They hear it's like, you know,
I want to go through that. So fighters like man,
they picking and choosing, and I don't want to fight
him because you know, it's there's a chance unless the
money sold right, you know. So it plays a big.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
If I take Floyd Mayweather and his absolute prime and
I take Manny Packey out and his absolute.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Prime, Floyd, Floyd still be sent.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Floyd be there, everybody.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
You don't believe there there is a guy at one
forty one forty seven in the history of Boston that
could have beat Floyd in the crime.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't know, but it'd be tough. It be tough Floyd.
Floyd man that boy man, that's the gold man.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That boy band.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
He man, that boy band.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
What makes it? But I mean what because and I
told people just say, look look at Floyd. That said Floyd.
It's not that he trains. I mean, it's his life.
And from the very beginning he'said, I want to be
the best, and I look at Floyd. Floyd is not
a naturally big man. So Floyd, like you to get
down to one forty seven, you got to drop twenty pounds.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I pounds.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Now, he walked around as well he had one fourth.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
He wont to right at what fifty, so he loses
three pounds. Floyd going to camp for like two weeks
and he he'd have made his weight. But what makes
what makes Floyd the best so unique something that we
have not seen before.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
His defense, in his instincts. I think Floyd had the
best defense and boxing history better than sweet Peak. Yeah, definitely,
because you sweet but will sweep me at defense. But
he in that offense like Floyd, I look at I say,
I say he got more defense than Sweete. He got
hit less. Yes, you know, Sweetee had more head movement,

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so he was sweet Peet was better at slipping punches,
making you miss. But Floyd on defense like catch bam bam,
bam bam. Yeah, you know Floyd hands down then making
you pay, catching, counter catching, slipping, you know what I mean,
like you with shots that you don't see, Like that's

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that's where Floyd master, you know, hitting not get hit.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And you look at the people that he beat, I
mean people are oh he just go back and look
at those world champions from the kotos and and the Pacquiao,
the Ricky Hatton's, the Actoral Gatti's. I mean like twenty
plus world champs. I ain't talking about no, they legit
World champs and he beat.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Them all and he and he was calling for them
all in their prime. You know. So I don't know Man.
A lot of people they give him credit now, but
they didn't give him credit when he least active. It's
kind of like It's kind of like Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, they hated.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Him when he was active. They loved him when he
retired and when he got a loss. They hated Tyson
when Tyson was active, but when he got a loss
and he retired, then they loved him. You know, everybody
want to I want to see you lose because they
want to want you to feel like you more human.
They don't want you to be, you know, superior to

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other fighters, especially fighters that they like, right, you know,
so they just like Man, I don't like that guy.
I see so many people on social media say they
don't like me, but don't have a reason. I don't
like Crawford, but I hope him and Canelo have a
good fight. Okay, I don't what is there or not

(08:31):
to like about.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Maybe you're run into the same thing, Floyd. People.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I believe people a lot of people started watching Floyd
fights to see him lose.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Do you think people tune in to watch you lose
to see you lose?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Definitely?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But you don't care a long about that paper for you.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Good. Hey, I don't care what what you what you
think about me. I don't care what you say about me.
You're not in the position that I'm in to even
be on the same level of me, you know. And
I don't say that in a cocky way. I say
that in an honest way like people want. At a

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basketball game, you're talking stuff to Lebron James and you
can't do half of what the Lebron James you talking
stuff about, you know, Aaron Rodgers, and you can't throw
a thirty foot thirty yard football. You know, we criticize athletes,
but for stuff that we can't even do. And it's

(09:33):
just like, man, come on now, man, you can't you
come up in here, get punched uff in the head
or you try to go run a run, go across
the middle. Why Brett far throw a ninety mouth football
that will break your fingers and uh Lyn's about to
come and take your head off, right, you know, so

(09:55):
you got to brace because you're about to get hit
the ball going fast, and you expect me to you
every single time. Yeah, you know, people don't understand the
things that we do and the things that we take
our body through to entertain y'all. You know, but y'all
disrespect us like we're not human. So then when we

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lash out on one of y'all, y'all think, oh, everybody like, oh,
you're supposed to be professional, but we're human. End of
the day, Floyd paid you the ortimate compliment, he says.
Terrence Crawford is the best pound for pound fighter fighting
right now. What's your your relationship like with Floyd? Oh,

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we got a good relationship. I'm cool with Floyd. You know.
Floyda just randomly called me, you know, ask me how
my family doing, ask me how I'm doing, and don't
even check on don't even talk about boxing. Wow, it's
just I don't want none. I was just checking up
on you, Champ, you know, see how you're doing, and
you know, making sure everybody good and things like that,

(11:00):
and all right. I talked to you later. Wow, you know,
things like that that means more to me than calling me.
He man, what's up with boxing?

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know, I'm i was at this fight. I told
you this. I was at the fight that you fought Spence,
and I'm sure you heard it, man Spence.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Had Spence not gotten that car incident, Budd, Man, you
know you fought that man three you bag, You fought
that bad three years too late. You'd have called him
before that, before that accident. I don't know, budd, how
often have you heard that?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Man?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I think I said everything that everybody was going to
say before they even said it. I think they just
looked at the interviews and the altercation that me and
Spence had and just copied and pasted. You know. I
heard it a lot, you know, But I was already
prepared for it. You know. I was prepared what three

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four years before you go, you know, And that's something
that I trained my mind to preparing for it because
I knew what it was gonna be. I said, Spence
is a great fighter. I'm a fan of Spence. I
always been a fan of Spence. I watched them in
a in the amateurs. I root it for him, you know,

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when he represented the United States. I call him on
the phone, check on him. I'm a fan of Spence.
The people, the Ermine community, our own people try to
turn us against each other and make it up to
a point where nobody likes each other. Why can't you

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like me and like him? Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that.
And if I like Bud, that don't mean I hate Earl.
If I like Earl, that don't mean I hate Bud.
But sometimes it seems to be now if I like something,
I can't like him, right, But it's only like that
in our community. You know, when you when you look

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at the Mexican community, they support each other, they.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Ride hard for them.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
When when when when when you got two Mexicans fighting
each other. Man the Mexican community, they celebrate whoever they're
gonna win. You know, they're gonna win when you when
you when you see us fight each other, it's not
like that, you know. And I just always felt like
we are owned down for you know, blacks. Mexicans rule

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boxing from the beginning beginning, you know, But we gotta
we gotta do better with supporting each other, and we
gotta do better. Another thing we gotta do better with
is supporting the ladies. You know. Yeah, the women fight.
You know, you got a lot of women fighters that's

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doing the same thing that we're doing going through the
same thing that we go through. That's putting on hell
of a show. But we don't. We don't support them,
you know, we don't. You'll see them come to all
our fights, supporting us, bigging us up. But everybody going
to them girls fights. But some of them girls fights
be more exciting than our fights, you know. So I

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just think that we need to just as a boxing community,
we need to just support each other more. And like
you said, if a person lose, it's not the end
of the world, right, you know, pick back up. You know,
some back in the days, you may one that day,
he may come back and beat you.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Correct, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
So you just gotta, you know, give them his just
do and you know, give them the encouragement that it's
not over instead of beating the white down.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
How long have you had this Canelo fight in your head?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Man, I've been thinking about Canelo for light a year now,
probably a little bit after the floor, I mean after
the Spence, A little bit after Spence, when Day start
talking about spencing Canelo. I started thinking, like, man, Canelo

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too big for Spance, like you know, cleaning Spence. But
then I started looking at it. I'm like, Canelo not
that big. Yeah, you know, he's a smaller fighter that's
fighting in a bigger division. So I started just sizing
myself up to Canelo. Right in my head, he's five

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to seven on five eight. I got a seventy four
inch reach. He got like a sixty something. You know. Uh,
he's wider than me. But that's it. So I'm like,
it match up, It matches up, like I can. I

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can do that fight.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Did you ever think he would accept it? Or you're
just gonna put enough pressure on him. You're gonna keep
putting it out there and have people put it out
there and say, hey, the only fight that makes sense
for Bud is Canelo. The only fight that makes sense
for Canelo if he want to fight somebody and he want.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
A super super payday, Bud Crawford is it?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
For sure? There's no fighter out right now that's bigger
than Crawford Canelo, no fight.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
So a lot of people I know a lot of
people say, oh, well, Benevidez, Benevidez. Everybody want him to
fight Benavide's and that's a great fight, and that's a
damn good fight, you know. But given the the circumstances
of black versus Mexican history, have always did bigger numbers

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than any you know, besides Mani Pac y'all rightoy than Floyd,
you know, Connor Forgregor. But yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Believe the number these numbers will be comparable to that.
The projection that this fight is gonna do somewhere between
six hundred and seven hundred or three quarters of a billion.
Floyd right now has the record. He and paky I
did six hundred million in revenue. You believe this fight,
you Canelo, Netflix can approach that number or go north
of that number.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I don't know, because it's a different it's different times
that were living in. When you look at today's time,
you got so much piracy, you know, it's different. Back
in the days you didn't have that much. No, yeah,
but now you know everybody got to add. My kids

(17:54):
be talking about, oh yeah, I'm watching the UFC fights life.
I ain't paid for the UFS. You're watching it on
their phone, you know. So it's way different nowadays, and
it's hard. It reminds me of back in the days
when they was burning cities. Yeah, and the artist is
was like, man, we can't we can't make no, buddy,

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it can't make no money because everybody's burning city and
stuff like that. So I just think, you know it's
gonna do tremendous numbers. But to say I know how much, I.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Don't because I'm looking at say, Canelos guarantee one fifty
you guaranteed one hundred million. Damn, Budd, it's too late
for me to trade. I mean, I mean, I mean,
that's that number. That's that that sounds like the number
that you can get down with.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Man. I don't know, Man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I don't know, Bud. I mean, I'm trying to figure it.
Helped me out on this because Marven Hackler once said,
it's hard. It gets hard once you got Minx slippers
and silk and John to get up there and train
and get.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Hit in the face again.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's what he said. Yes, but here's the thing. I know, Silks, No,
but look at Floyd everything.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Floyd is making money doing doing thirty doing forty million,
fifty million dollars a fight, and he still had the
same desire as if he had two dollars. Bud Crawford
made money and he still has the desire to get
up and train is even if he has five dollars,
How does one stay in that mind? Because it's easy now,
But you live in the Ivory Tower. You just told
me you got new crib built, although it cost you

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sixty three dollars. It's a new crib. What I'm saying,
you got this new palatial of state and you still
stay hungry.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
How because like, I don't want to lose. That's that's
the thing. I don't want to lose in nothing, you know.
So I'm I'm fighting for my future, my kids future.
So if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it
to win. I'm not gonna have do it. I'm not
gonna have step in, gonna play around with it. I'm

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gonna I'm going to try to win. So that's my
motivation my family, to secure them with generational wealth, with
the businesses that I've created, the things that I put
my money into, to teach them that anything is possible,
and then not only that, for their kids. Kids can

(20:26):
can live off of the great great Grandpa's success. Like
you know when you see a trust fund baby.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
The Ford family, the rock and Fellers, the Kellogg Mars.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Catch up.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yes, yes, yes, Why can't you know where I come from? Man,
people don't be leaving their kids nothing when they pass.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Man, people leave the dead because they ain't got that lead.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I can't live dinners and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, so I just always told myself, if something never
was to happen to me, my kids gonna be straight
with or without me.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
But but I don't know, Bud a hundred, one hundred
and fifty mil. You still don't want to go in
there and train. You still don't want to go get
do another fight.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
They might come with two hundred, come with two others,
going to get it.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So training, obviously you're gonna have to train. You're training
for a bigger fighter. So what's that have you thought about?
Have you lined up some sparring parties? Like you probably
have to fight, you know, spar with bigger guys than
what you normally spar with. No, you know, but you
try to make this thing seem like routine. It ain't routine, Bud.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Man, Listen, I don't spar people with my size. Everybody
I spar is bigger than me.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh yo, saying he want a spar I know. He
told me.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
He came down.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
He said, man, you want to get in the ring
with me, I said, Man, listen.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
That what I keep telling it. I said, but he
gonna he doing it him in May fight with Debo
James Harrison.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I don't want to do it to him. Oh your
good man, that's my god. Yeah, he's funny than the mother.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
He is funny. But go go ahead and do one round.
Touch him up a.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Couple of times. Y'all be wanting him to get straight.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I wanted to because he be every every fighter he
had we had another mean, yeah, everything sore ward.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, hey not, I.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Mean just you know, just like yeah, I don't think
I don't think he wants I think he just wants
the the joy and the bragging rights to say he's
been in there with us.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't think he want to get in there and
for us to really sparm.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, no, no, just one minute, just put one minu
just one min on the cloth, Okay, that's it.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Thirty second they get it out of thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I would tell over you like, man, hey, do thirty
he just touch him a couple of times?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, no, no, don't, don't, don't. Don't go all out
on it.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
But them up man.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, hey, oh Joe, and I would be right there with.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So let me ask you a question, how different you
win this fight? How different is good? The perception of
Bud Crawford going to be Does this put you in
that pantheon?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I honestly think I've been there, but you know, everybody
else got there on the pin. But after this, I
think people will start respecting me more. But at the
same time, they have some type of excuse. You know,
it's always gonna be some type of excuse on why
Terrence Crawford was successful and why he won the fights

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that nobody thought he was going to win, or he
did with exactly what he said he was to do,
but it was a reason why it happened at the time,
or something wasn't right. So I just taking a stride.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
There hadn't been very many five division champs. You beat
Canelo at the weight, you and beat him at that weight.
I mean, people are gonna have to say Bud Crawford
with Floyd Mayweather, with Sugar Ray Robinson, Manny Pack, Yaw,
you gonna have They're gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
They don't have a choice.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I'm gonna say this And I'm not just saying that
Terence Crawford could have competed with all those guys. All
of them. I don't see not one fighter that I
could compete with. From Roberto Durant, the Sugar Ray Robinson.

(24:46):
I can't say Sugar Ray Robinson because I didn't see him, right,
but the Manny pack Yews.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
The hag of the Hearns Hagler was was it was
sixty yeah he thought, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
But I'm talking about those guys and around my.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Way Yeah yeah, well okay, yeah, even.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Regular Yeah, you know I could have compete with but
the guys that was around my Way, Sugar Shane Moseley
and all those, Yeah, I compete with all of them
with all of them, hands down.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But back then, but guys fought. I mean, now, guy's
gonna retire with fifty fights. I mean, I think, who
is that? Durand Durand at one point was like seventy
eight and oh these guys had like a hundred fights.
Sugar Ray Robinson was like what and two hundred wins
and five losses or something.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Well, boxing has evolved.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Because they're fighting every day and there every other every
other every other, every other week.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
So when you look at boxing, like like we were
just talking about football, Yes, you can blindside and crack
back and all that stuff. Yes, boxing have evolved to
the point where we learned that we don't have to
fight so.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Much, right because there's more money involved, and so you
don't have to fight for ten thousand ten thousand, where
guys can make X amount of dollars and fight one
two times a year.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yes, and then and then when you look at those
fighters that got all those fights, look at their health. Yeah,
why would I want to make so much money if
I can enjoy.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It, can't enjoy it or don't know I've made the.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Money facts and have somebody steal the money because I
don't know what's going on?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Right, So health as well. When when did you watch
the Charlo fight in Canelo? Did you watch that fight?
Did you take anything? Did you take anything from it?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
I felt Charlo just came for a payday, really, but
I really can't say. But he could have did more.
He did a lot of good things in there that
I felt as if he wouldn't know or had the confidence,
he would have did way better than what he did.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Do you feel that Charlo could have done more? Yes,
that's what I'm talking. Oh you talking about Charloh yeah, yeah.
You think you're afraid of of Canelo's power?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I do.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I think you respected too much, you know I do,
But still all in on. He did what he had
to do to make it to the twelve round.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Or you're gonna respect, You're gonna respect it.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I don't know, we're gonna see it. I never got
hit by him, so I can't right if I am.
But I'm definitely gonna respect.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you're gonna make him respect you, of course, because
you got you. Because he'll walk you down if you don't.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Well, that's just that's his Thingna, he tried to walk
people down. Now he gonna do what he's gonna do,
and I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Who will be there? I got to see this. I
gotta see this one.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Why are you on the criticism? Man?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You've never been punched by anybody like Canelo. You haven't
fought a contender. I mean, bro, you just getting I mean,
how do you get? Why do you get to fight
Canelo this big payday when you haven't fought anybody leading
up to Canelo? And you see what he did really
Joe Man. Once he hit you, you.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Hear it all. But you've heard everything that somebody.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't know if you've heard it personally, but you
got people around you have heard what the criticism is
about you taking this fight with Canela.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
That's the joy of it. Nobody knows, you know, that's
the the excitement. He's fought all these guys, He's did
all these things to these guys. Terrence Crawford is great
at a lower way class. But we don't know if

(28:34):
Terrence Carford can take the punches in the arms or
take the overhand ride or the uppercut or the right hand.
We don't know. But that's why we fight. But you
know there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
What if.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know that a lot of fans his accent or
in their mind what I can do right?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
And the last time he fought somebody that had speed
was Floyd. You've never seen anybody with speed like Bud Crafting.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
But you know that's why we're gonna fight, and then
all the answers is going to be answered on fight night.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
You don't give a rematch.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Ain't no rematching the claws, but who knows?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
So you win to take off Hey.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Win it take off. I'm taking it off.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I read that you don't eat beef.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I don't eat beef for a pork, just.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Chicken, fish, turkey, you musclele No, not at all. I
been you for one breast. All them chimes out there.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I'm all steaks. No, I don't eat beef for a pork.
I stopped eating beef because it takes too long in
the process, really break down. Yeah, joining that, that's all right.
I ain't got nothing to do in the meantime, so
it'll break down just by a day or two.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
I'm good. I ain't fighting. Hold up. I read you
dead lifted four hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Probably like four fifty five or something like that.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Man, your little your little lass do four fifty five.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I'm probably like five hundred, but not you. You see,
almost slammed you.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
But I told you buy. I ain't want to mess
with that one hundred fifty dollars pay man. Man, Hey, everybody, man,
how you do?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Let's come on, man, because hey, I think I'm gonna
get me a little color getting a five percent cut.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
So well did you do you? Did you have? You
always lift lifted weights?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
So you just lifted now to try to put on
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Lifted just because I needed to. I just wanted to
lift it.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I just looked at it and said, now I do that.
I just I was like, do it.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I here. Look how many fights does Bud craffit have blue?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
As many as I want?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
But you don't want to stay too long, do you? Bud?
You want to enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
There you go, there you go? It just answered it.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Hello, Javonte, David say you need the money? What what? What's?
What's what's going on with you in Javonte?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
If I'm a boxer, he a boxer, you're a boxer.
We all need the money. I ain't doing it for free,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
What if Javonte said he I'll come up to one
fifty four, I come up to one fifty four.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
While you talk, Oh man, you go to one you
you you will find Javonte. All wish him the best.
That's all I want to say.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Why why?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Why why did they come? Is it because they feel
they need to.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Come for the guy that seems like he's on the
top right now?

Speaker 2 (31:58):
And right now you're on the top, So everybody's taking
Ryan Garcia say, Canelo go beat Bud.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
They train together. He supposed to. He supposed to say that,
and he's nice. He's supposed to ride with this with
his people's.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
You can help out on this this last fight. Roach
and Javonte, have you ever seen anything like that? I mean,
you can't take a knee. That's a that's a that's
a knockdown. Whether because I saw Floyd break his hand,
hit the guy and took a knee and they gave
Florida a count. So I'm trying to figure out how
Javonte aborded that. And then I'm figuring trying to figure

(32:37):
out how he got his guy come up to the
top of the ring and white green side his eyes.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
They do that not but I guess that's that's that's
that's part of the new you know what I mean,
boxing are.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
When you saw that, tell me what you when you
saw there? You saw him take a knee and then
you see he go to the the apron. This guy
come up to the top of the ring. Well, he's like,
hold on, what what's going on?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I'm just as confused as you. I said, huh. I
was just like, oh, that's crazy. And Steve Willis is
a great referee. He is, and he started counting and
then stopped stopped it like they said, hey, hey, you
better stop counting. Oh wow, they don't do that again.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
You being a boxing officialdo you think ifone won that fight?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
No, I don't think. I don't think he won without
the knockdown. You know, I thought it was a close.
It was a close fight, you know, but I would
have gave the edge to Roach. He thought he fought
a great fight. Juvante for a great fight as well,
But I just think he was overconfident. I don't think

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he took Roach.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean serious, serious, right, because they I guess they
fought earlier. They fought damage to going from DC to the
other from Maryland, so they're very familiar with each other.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
But pros is different than and you know, Tank stopping
a lot of people, you know, probably felt like, man,
we've fought with some little kids. Man, I'm about to
knock you out.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
What about Javonte and Tank? Should that? Should they fight?
In your court? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, they should fight.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Why they ain't fighting?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I don't know. I think I think all of them
should fight, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I mean, you got a low paz to your femo
you got little Machenko, you got Shakur, you got Tank,
you got Garcia. You got five guys. That's a nice
little that's a nice little Devin Handy. Yeah, you got
you got six guys.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Don't nobody want to fight? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't know. I think they all should, you know,
be fighting each other. What what?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
What?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
What? What we got going on?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Politics?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
If if your Core and Hainey and Tank, if all
of them believe, if they retire with undefeated records, that's
some bull eye. That's what straight up and you and
you do it too, Bud, Ain't no way those guys
should have undefeated records if they.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
End up prime and they damn there in the same No,
ain't no way.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Well till Femon got a loss already.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, you're right, you're right, But fight Lomo.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
He got a loss.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Fight, I don't care what. Maybe he could put a
loss on somebody else. I ain't gonna be the only
one with the day, That's how I think. But that's
how I think. I ain't gonna be the only one
for walking around with a loss.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, for sure, definitely, definitely. I think I think they
all should fight. You know, they all want to fight
each other. And I think, you know, with Turkeyolar Chic
in the mix now and I think we'll get there.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
They got big money over there. You go fight over there.
I ain't fight over You ain't gona mess with him?
You would, I said, would you go to what did
you buy?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Saudi? Yeah? They play big, bustle them.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
If the Tigre was what it is supposed to be.
The Yeah, I'm a I'm a champion of the world. Yeah,
not of the country. If I had to travel the
world to fight, that's so ben Okay. I like that.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Ryan, Garcia and Tank they talk about they might fight again.
Blah blah blah. This there was a lot made about
this rehydration clause. You don't have that. If I'm not mistaken,
I don't think you have this in this one. So
theoretically he might he's supposed to come in at one
sixty eight, not in the fight.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
He might be one eighty one eighty five. You cool
with that.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I had sat down with Oscar and Oscar said he
thinked the rehydration clause had a lot to do with
why Ryan didn't defeat Jabonte.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I think two things I think, Well, I'm gonna say
three things. I think Ryan had an injury already previous,
I mean previous and training. I think the way it
did have an effect on him because when you see

(37:20):
him with Devin, he was too totally oh yeah, you
know what I mean. Fighters, but in tank defense, I
don't think fighters should be able to fight a fighter
at one thirty in this fighter rehydrate to one forty
and you come in at one sixty five, right, you know.

(37:42):
I don't think that's right. And I think that's the
problem that Canelo had with Benevida's as well. These fighters
coming in at like two hundred pounds and they weighing
one sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, that's a that's a that's a big Ryan he
had he had some things going on, you know, and
we had to I guess it was the taining sample.
He said they had a trace of a steroid in
the system, and Devin Haney, you know, complained and he tried.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
To sue him, and so so, so what's going on? Why?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Because I look at Ryan and I think if he focused,
he could be really good. He just have a lot
of ish going on. Do you feel like if he
were to focus and took it serious. I mean, you
have to take it somewhat serious. But if he like
totally locked.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
In, they all came up with each other.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, so they know each other.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
So they all know each other so well. Chicord Tang, Ryan,
you know Devin. They all they all know each other,
you know.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
So is it hard to fight somebody you know?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
No, No, I'm just saying they all know each other,
so they know, you know, how to fight each other
and how to beat each other and things like that
because they didn't fit each other.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
So right, What did you think about the Devin Hainey
and Ryan Garcia fight.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I think, you know, steroids if he was on steroids
he tested positive some to do with his his performance.
But at the same time, I can't take away from
Ryan Garcia laying in the shots that he was laying
all day. You know. I just think that when Devin

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got hit, he didn't recover, you know, when he got hit,
he just couldn't recover from Ryan.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So he beat you.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Ryan, So he beat beat you.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I'm just saying that would have man said he said it.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I don't like, Oh man, that's that's that's good. That's
good for to think that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
We have these compesitions, right, would you fight j Paul?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
No, No, he's too big, too big, yeah, j big,
but he's doing his thing. Let Jake do what you
got two hundred million for you. I'm fighting Jake fighting
Jake Paul. Come on, Jake, Hey, Logan Guindy, I gotta

(40:14):
I gotta fight your brother.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
When you watch the Tyson and the Jake Paul fight,
come on, man, I love Tyson, but Tyson shouldn't have
been out there right biting his gloves and stuff. Was
he bide his glove because that was a tick or
with he bid his glove? Like, man, I want to
hit the joke upside his head so bad.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
But I can't.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I don't want to. I don't want to spread over.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
But Tyson shouldn't been in there right at all, and
no way shape or for him or fashion should Jake
Paul ever be able to say? He be Mike Tyson right,
you know what I mean? Like Mike Tyson old yeah,
sixty yeah, old enough to be my dad?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
And he shouldn't have been in there, you box Connor, Yeah,
definitely why not? The money was right? We get in there?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
What do you think the appeal is because we see
a lot of these guys, a lot of the MLA
guys want to come to the sport of boxing.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
We saw France and n Gandu.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
He did pretty good against Tyson Fury, and then he
got in there with Anthony Joshua it didn't go so well.
We saw Connor McGregor get in there with Floyd, even
though Floyd was past his prime.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It seemed like pluil toy wad.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
They drugged him out to the deep, held his head
up in the water until he couldn't get it.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
He couldn't get in the oxygen.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I mean, what's the what's the appeal of a UFC
fighter wanting to fight one of the box.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
This is money money this, yeah, you know, I did
an interview with a couple of UFC fighters, Uh Henry
hold on them and I was telling them boxers can
make way more money than the UFC fighters, you know,

(42:07):
and that's mainly what it comes down to, right, you know, money.
The UFC fighters see that the crossover fights like Mayweather
and Connor McGregor, how well.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Conor was compensated.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
They like, oh, hold on, and then you see what
Francis and gandew and and and and uh. Anthony Joshua
the compensation that Francis and gondw he probably made twenty
times what he's ever made in a UFC fight.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I'm just being you know, maybe I'm at hyperbole here,
but I think he probably made at least five times
what he's ever made in the UFC fight.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yep. So when they when they see that, then they
just you know, it's sparks, they interest, you know. But
then when they say, oh, well, boxers need to go
to the the cage, then the boxers boxers ain't never
asking to go over there and fight because compensated. So

(43:08):
it's like, y'all come over here and fight us because
y'all want to make more money. We're not trying to
go over there and make less money and get kicked on,
broke and all the stuff. So it's a difference.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Anthony jo Jake Paul said, you want to fight Anthony Josha,
Damn Jake Paul want to fight everybody.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I think I think Anthony Joshua was too big.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Jake big.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I mean josh was like two fifty yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Jake Paul big. They both beg.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Who you put your money on.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Then come on, man, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Oh look, I mean that's what you talk about. That
is a a go. I think Joshua won the gold
medal in the Olympics. He's a I mean, look, it's
chein suspect chin like.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
No man, the dudes, big man, he big too.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
He got too much muscle. He got too much muscle.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
And I don't never say nobody cheting suspect. In a
heavyweight division.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
You got to be able to take a punch.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
He did take a punch. He took a few, them dudes,
big man. Yeah, I know, Mac Chuck Boom, he was winning.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
No hell nor That's what I'm saying. But hey, a
little guy hitting you with a punch you don't see.
Can you imagine a big guy here you would a
punt you don't see.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
But just imagine a big guy hitting you with a
punch you can see.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I don't want to see it.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
You can't do nothing, you know what I mean? Them
big dudes punching.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Oh yeah, look, help me with this.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Deontay Wilder he was he was running through he was
knocking everybody out. And it's always the same, the overhand
right Fury fought the first time, thought he had Fuury,
and Fury raised up like the undertaker, shot up in
the ring, got up.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
It was a draw, but a lot of people thought
Fury won.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I thought both of them one.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
You thought both of them one. You thought it was
a draw. You thought the draw was with the fair outcome.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah, because I thought I thought Fury won a decision
hands down. But I thought they should have called the
fight off. I thought Water knocked him out. Okay, not
a second fight, hmmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Deontay said it was the suit. He had this new suit.
Well I was there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
You had that big old food that it was cool
on It looked good.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
But now you know, when you come up with something
like that, you got to you got to be ready
to rock and roll.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
But I think them fights took a lot out of
Deontay Water, did you know. And then on top of that,
once Tyson Furry felt his punch upon and he stood
up to it, he wasn't afraid to get hit with
it no more. And I think that just, you know,

(46:09):
because what.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Was a guy don't feel your power?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
You kind of it is something towards mental because he's
so used to, because.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Then nobody had ever ever gotten up when he landed
that shot flush, no fighter had ever gotten up. And
when he still sat up in that ring and he
got up, what do I What do I do now?
If you hit the guy with your best shot, you
hit him.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Spam, what I'm gonna do? Hit him again?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You're gonna take these all nights.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
I ain't gonna hit you and be like, oh, I'm like,
you're gonna have to eat them all night. We ain't
gonna stop just there, you know? Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Man?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
So, but then I watched I thought, after watching Fury
fight and I watched him fight Deontay Wadena, watch him
fight a couple of other guys, I got a little
concerned when he fought Joshua. But I didn't think he
took Joshua. I don't think he thought excuse me. I
don't think he talked of when he fought for instance,
and Ghandu. I don't think he took him serious. And
so I was like, man, can't nobody? And then I

(47:09):
watched usick he getting to bring with Alexander Musik and
us just what I'm like, how bro, you seem unbeatable?
For like three, four, five fights and now you.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Just styles make fights. So were you used to fighting
these big, slower guys with a slower pace and you
get in with a smaller guy with a faster pace,
with more movement and things like that. It kind of

(47:41):
it's kind of harder than fighting those guys that you've
been fighting, you know, in the past. And then who
said he's he's tremendously talented.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, you know, so he's.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Gonna faint you, he's gonna move, he's gonna slip, he
gonna counter you, and he's gonna tie you up things
like that. So it's difficult, right.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
A B A B scamming these guys in the dice game?
Is that? Is that why you don't you say you
don't gamble anymore?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Because you say, Man, I feel like I was taking
money from my homies, and probably some of the money
that I was taking was my money to begin with.
So all I do is get my money back, and
they wasn't gonna be able to pay me back.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
But are you I mean, have you ever heard of
a story like this before?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Because you know, people boy a in the hood, they
normally get you through stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Man, I wonder if they fabricating them ount okay what
they say at one point, but no, they say five man,
six point five and.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Fixed dice game. They said one, I'm telling six four five.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Ain't on six point five.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
They said one point five give give.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
My phone, give my phone. We're gonna pull this up.
They're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Six point five man, come hold down this up, budd man, Hey, listen,
you gotta get it how you live? No, hey, you
if they allow him to get them in dice for
that much money, then they deserve to get their money
took because how the hell did you in a street

(49:18):
dice game allow yourself to get that much money took
from you? It's crazy, man, what the instant? Nah, that's
that's that's a fake sight, a fake fight. That's a
fake sight.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Collect the six.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Point five million from the scheme, including one point five
million from current NBA All Star, five million from former players,
and one point five million from current.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Ain't be hitting them.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Hey, hey, hey, you know the point that till the.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Phone the.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Phone bringdany dice game up, because man, nobody gonna belive
you're gonna hit the flowers and that little joke.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Oh man, they.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Man, somebody hurt you by that kind of money man
for real the once and probably because they are NBA
players and they didn't do anything. But if you do
somebody like that, that's a hood. Oh they're sending for you.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Man ain't being crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
But ain't man looking at ab had a nice had
a nice had a nice career. Man man with ab
asked some of the fact when they started getting cooked,
Man like I'm getting cooked.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Oh man, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
When when will Bud know it's time to leave?

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Well, my mom tell me to stop.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
If you don't tell you to stop, you're gonna keep going.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Nah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
How old is your oldest kid? Child?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Seventeen, the youngest one. You want the youngest to see
what you do.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
They all see what I do.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
He don't he the one you only see a nothing yet?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Oh no, no, no, he ain't gonna be able to
see it. Well, he see it, watch it.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
You just don't know what he's watching it.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
He ain't gonna be able to understand.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
But I've been the lion. So seventeen is the oldest.
So you probably got probably what like three over the
age of ten. Yeah, so they know, so for long.
The older ones, they know what you do, they know
who dad is. Okay, all my kids, even my daughter
she four what I do.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
So you're good.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I mean so now, so I mean you want to
what you want to do this till you're forty? You
want to be like a couple of more fights?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Is crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Bad?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
But I don't know. I'm focused right now on this one.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
So you I I worry about I worry about tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Tomorrow, but right now this gets laser focus.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
There, right now, we were in it. Right. What have
you learned about money? It's paper? It comes and goes,
It change people. I showed like it better coming and going.
But it's the crazy thing? Is what money do for you?
But make you comfortable? It don't make you happy. No,

(52:29):
it don't fix things. It can fix certain things. What
about freedom? It does allow you a certain level of
freedom in certain aspects because you can have money. You
can have a lot of money but still can't get
in certain places. You can have a lot of money,
but still can't sit at a certain people table.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
So what is just a tool that you use to
you know, be somewhat comfortable.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
What's the worst investment you've made you buy something. I
mean you say you don't let You're not big in
the cars you never bought. No rolls, no ferrari.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
What dad, you're driving to pick up truck at Omar?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta I do, gotta pick up chuck
at twenty twenty five gmc denalogy h d okay you
but twenty five hundred. You want a car, you got
a far I drag your little car. Hey, you want

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to talk about my truck?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I hooked.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I hooked your little right up where you head out
that diesel.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You're gonna be like, hey, hey, hey, I was I getting.
I'm gonna go give me a six fifty.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
To the ball.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
That's cool, and pull the rear off your truck.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
He ain't gonna put the rear in. We're gonna be fighting. No,
but I got cars though, I got too money, Carlos,
I got a g wagon. Man, I got a demon.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
He's got the Demon. I got to I got the
Black Ghost. Don't let me catch you on the street.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
That's cool. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Don't let me catch you because I know you got
a lot of straight highways out there in oh Ain't
nothing really worry about a pig crossing the street or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Man, we ain't got no pigs got We don't regularly
when you're talking about Texas about I'm talking about the
brass good let Hey man, you ain't gonna keep talking about?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Where are you from?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Oh country?

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I'm from Georgia.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Yeah, old country tailan.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Fromm from South Georgia. Trust video.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
What's out there?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Farm land?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Hogs, we got wheat uh onions? Yeah, it's just it's
farm land. That's what you farm land.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Come on, man, your place came compared to my place Georgia, Georgia.
I live in Atlanta. No, no, no, no, where you're from.
I'm not where you lived. You live where you live at?
I said where you're from? You ain't gonna keep talking about.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I mean, I want to come to Omaha. I'm gonna
check it out.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
What comes on? Come on?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
What's what? Okay? What's the dish?

Speaker 5 (55:25):
What?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
What is Omaha famous for? What food? What dish is?
Told you? What steaks?

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
You're the Omaha steaks? What else? That hello is with you?
You don't eat meat? So how you know ship?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I used to work there. People used to mind the
bugs up. Boy all over the world. They talk about
omar on steaks.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
I used to eat beef. I ain't like I ain't
never eating right.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
So so what's Bud's favorite meal? So if your mom
or pasta give me.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Some mosign peace, I'm positive.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I mean pieces, Okay, I ain't no lasagn you know, spaghetti, Yeah,
that's me.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Are you a breakfast person?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I don't really eat breakfast like that.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Really, I hear it.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I need I eat it when I'm training though. When
I'm in training camp, I eat all my malves.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Right. Yeah. Are you ever gonna leave Omaha? Are you
there to stay?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I'm probably there to stay. I'm probably stuck there.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
So well, what about the kids? What about the kids?
They dad? You know what a peace out?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
I see you when you come back uncomfortable? You know
how like certain people like you might move back to Alabama.
You never know, you know what I mean, they'd be
gone for forty years. They're like, Man, when I die,
I want to be buried home where I was born.
So I'm going to come back home, settle down, get
me a house, and you know, last ten twenty years

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of my fifteen years of my life, I'm gonna be home.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
You're a big sports fan. What NBA player in NFL
player you believe could box? Because I see Dame, I
see Dame hitting the gloves.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Dame damn got some skills for sure. Uh for boxer,
Uh car Anthony Towns, he be training, you know what
I mean? He got got some skills. My boy d smoked.
He definitely got some skills. He be really boxing boxing.
You know football players O Joe Sinko, Oh Joe, Man,

(57:33):
you gotta tell him stop playing with h man.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
This Joe he plays, he's where he Floyd Maywell was
it man?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Was it La? Damian Thomas and Thomas Man. He knocked
that dude out then.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh no, you're talking about No, you talk about you
talk about the guy from Pittsburgh, the running bank leveyon
bell Bill.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah that he he locked that. Adrian Peterson. Yeah, Frank go.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Frank Gore fight, Yeah, Frank Gore can fight too. I
was just uh having dinner with friend Gard But yeah, man,
Ldamn Thomson, Hey.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I got somebody I need you to train, Stephen A.
Can you help him out? Man?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
You seen them uppercuts, Stephen they were throwing? Yeah, Man,
I saw them face.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Coming from him. What's up here with Lebron? Man? Lebron,
I got you, I got him, I got Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
You gotta help him out, man, I mean he said,
yeah he's rotating.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Man o though. Man, yeah, yo, man, he needed They
ain't worry about fighting. Man, you ain't got it. You
ain't gotta throw a punch.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
So you're gonna training, Steven, I got you, bug, gonna
come in Gonnarain. You're gonna get you out to teach
your mass, steal your feet, to sit down, spend that
front top.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I'm gonna teach him how to you know what I mean,
teach him how to run. He ain't got to run.
He just gotta work his finger out, work his fingers.
Keep it steady, you know, keep it steady and straight.
You're too old for all that.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
You're a Laker fan, Yes, you're a Laker fan, or
you're a Lebron fan. Laker fan.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I ain't even want Lebron to be on a Lakers. Yeah,
but we're gonna fall out, fall out. Why would I
want Lebron on the Lakers When we was competing against.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Y'all, hadn't been competing a long time, y'all. They won
No championship in two thousand and ninety two ten.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
And we won against the Who get your hand?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Let me ask you a question. You remember you remember
you beat Miami. Who was on the team when they
beat Miami in the bubble?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
It don't matter Lebron was with us, That's what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying is when Lebron played for Cleveland
and all that, yes, competing against Yeah, yeah, we competing,
That's what I'm saying. So I didn't want Lebron on
the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Now you didn't want lebrony Kobe. I wanted Kobe.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
You just imagine lebrony Kobe.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, but that was imaginary.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
But see now, just think about what the Lakers would
be if they didn't have Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
We'll have somebody else, well, yeah, you remember what you
had with Colvid it retired.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
We'll have somebody nothing, We'll have somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Hold on, is it true Trey Songs trying to fight you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Why everybody keep talking about that man? Tray Songs was
just having a moment. He was you know what I mean,
He's gonna put a miss on you. You're gonna put
a mess on you, put the miss on it. It's crazy.
He just was having a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Did he know who you were?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I don't know. That's why I said I couldn't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
You really couldn't gage it because you like, do I
do this for real?

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Like? Yeah, that's what? Is he serious or is he
just playing? I'm waiting for him to be like, ah,
just playing with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
But he didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
You're gonna put I wasn't gonna punch, would do a
bad body blow. I was gonna choke him. Come on,
come on, man, Yeah, I was gonna choke he would
have They want them crazy swings out and dub them
choked dude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
I mean, is anybody like because a lot of times
people might have because they look at your side and
they might not know who you are, right and they
like feel some type of way. You ain't never got
into it with a celebrity, have you? Somebody like talking track?
You're like, bro, come on, they say what you want?

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That was the person that's really I like, we got
into a little altercation with Gezi, but it was not
like that, right, But yeah, I want to choke you.
I don't even want to punch you. Have you ever
been choked before. No, So just imagine somebody like got

(01:01:43):
your life in their hands and they decided whether they
want to let you go or not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
So just imagine when them people getting choked out in
the UFC. Yeah, just imagine that he tapped.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
You ain't gonna let it down, to what I've said,
imagine it. You think about it. If they don't be
like her, let him go, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Like, you're gonna get up and you're gonna think twice
like that could yeah for sure. So you just choke
them and just be like, hey, now, now get on now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Clarissa Shields, I don't think there's really any question that
she's the best woman's boxer today.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Of all time, all time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
You putting over Laila La all time, and I love
labor Wolf all time, cole Mine's daughter all time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Really, there's no comparison that's here at all all time.
I love Lela too, Yeah, but I ain't nobody coming
close to Clarissa right. Two time Olympic gold medal, yes,
three times undisputed it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Yes, how many.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Way classes she did? Six six different way classes. Now,
I understand it ain't a lot of women boxing, right, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But she's the best of what's out there or what's
ever been out there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
That still don't take away the accolades she posed, right,
It's no, it's no comparison.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
You got your name got dropped in a this song,
Kenda Lamar name dropped you on the this song you like,
So when people have you obs was it like to
like hear you Now? I don't want to hear my
name called him a song. I don't care what the
song is. I just want to hear my name called
him songs. That's it forever, because you don't't nobody your
name and that song forever, you know that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yeah, for sure, my name been in plenty of songs,
you know. But when I heard it, I was just like,
that's crazy. That was it. Like everybody was hitting me up,
like man, Kendrick put you in this song, you know.
I was just like, oh yeah, I was like, oh
that's crazy, you know, And I just left for that

(01:03:58):
that I didn't get like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
You and I'll get all excited like I'm getting residuals
from this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
No, I ain't getting ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
You was on the set of Cree three with Michael B.
Jordan and Jonathan Major. What's it like being on the
set because they fishing you back?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
No, it was dope. It was dope, you know to
see Michael B. Jordan and is uh yeah in his
element and see him navigating everything they shooting and then
he's stopping and he grabbing the camera and he like,
all right, we're gonna do this, and we're gonna do this.
I was just like I'm looking back, like, man, this
dude talented. Man. Yeah, you know, for you to be

(01:04:36):
in person acting then directing then changing stuff, you know,
I mean like we gonna do it this way. I'm like, man,
that's cold. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
What's it like to knock someone out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
You don't even feel it, You don't, nah, sometimes sometimes
you don't ever feel it, like you not somebody else.
You'll be like, man, I don't even hit him that
hard because the ones that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
You try to hit him with don't get him out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, you'd be missing nomore don't get him out. But
the ones that you least expected, it'll be like whoa,
it kind of surprised you, right. But sometimes when you
hit him you know what I mean, and you can
feel it, you'd be like, I know, I got him
so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
So you know when you get that, what's the hardest,
what's the hardest hit you've been hit, what you've received?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Uh? Probably gambo Bell's ring is like buzzy, Like, yeah,
he buzzed me. I walk right into it. When you
watch that fight, I would just put my hands down.
Was like I had just hit him with an uppercut.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Thought you had it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
No. I just looked at him like he just cracked five.
That mother said fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Small fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
You grab his ass.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
It's to day's boxers as tough as the boxers. You
ain't let me finished, but it ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Boxers back in the days was way tougher than the
boxers of today. Could you imagine fighting with six ounce
coarse hair gloves for fifteen rounds? You get knocked down,
the person standing up over you so when you get
up he can punch you again. Wow. Or he used

(01:06:34):
to fight until somebody got knocked out. He used to
be unlimited rounds. So it's just like, man, it's crazy. Man.
Them people was crazy. Yeah, but I think our skills
have evolved.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, there's yeah, I agree. It's a trade off sex
before a fight. Where are you on sex before fight?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Nay, but I'm hitting something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
But what about all the fighters saying, no, you don't
portray get any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
That's a lie. I've been doing that my whole career.
I think it's a it's my remedy. I'm for what
before I fight? If it relax you, it relaxed me. Yeah,
I swear to God, like not the night before the fight,
but no, no, no, the week before no, like like
I don't do a training camp like Friday Thursday, like

(01:07:22):
Thursday Thursday before the fight. Yeah, I swear to God
like everybody always asks me, you know, because I've been
the things people always want to know if I did.
I'm like, yeah, it relaxed me. But I don't want
to go in the ring all like uptight right. I
want to go in there smooth water, like being able

(01:07:44):
to see everything right, you know what I mean. But
it ain't for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Because you hear all that. Nah, I don't do that.
But were you nervous because you had heard I'm sure
everybody told you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Man, you can't have no sexe before the fight, man,
no sex before the fight the whole time, the whole
six weeks, eight week, teash weeks, however long it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
You can't do that, and you did it and then
you won.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Nah. I just look at it like when you training,
when you're playing football, right, they tell you not to
have sex.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
They say get off your feet, okay, but they ain't
say nothing by her on her feet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
My point, my point, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
So so when you I tell people this, when you're
not training for a fight, you fuck and then you
go work out, right, you don't think about it. The
only reason why you're tired is because you're trying to
be a porn star.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
If you let her do all the work.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Good, you're saving your leg hip thrust and right squadding
ain't doing on that, you know what I mean. You
just getting your loll off, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
And you good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
But if you want to go out there and you
performing and stuff with it, that's a workout. Of course
you're gonna be tired.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
So that's that's my take on it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Kids.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
You got seven right? All your kids are by the
same woman, six six of them my last one. Not
you want more kids?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
But you done?

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I don't know. Damn Nick Kenneth, No, no, Kenny got
the Kennedy got too many baby bothers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
You know what I mean, would you let your boys.
You don't let it even the girls. You let them box,
you let them play football? No boxing, no boxing, no football.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Come on, but damn you did it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
That's why I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
But what it was his dad?

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
No, you ain't let me know. He gonna be he
like down. No, he's six three, two hundred. They ain't
gonna be six three because I'm not six footing. His
mama no six foot so he ain't gonna be six nothing.
He's lucky if he's gonna be five eight. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
They you guys have been together since the beginning, right,
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And you know. But the thing is, like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Think everybody wants that that that that fairy tale. When
I didn't have anything, I had you. Now that I
have everything, I still have you. It doesn't happen often,
but I think everybody, I think most guys long for that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
How did you know? Or did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Highs lows in between? No matter what she was gonna be,
he'll ride her.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
She put her to the test. How you know what
I'm saying. You both put to the test, right, It's
not just just her you put to the test to
deal with the stuff that she can bring bring to
the table, you know what I mean, And she so forth,
so you know, it's both. It's a two way street
when it comes to that, because you're gonna put up

(01:10:52):
with a lot, just like she gonna put up with
a life. Y'all gotta see if things work out right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
What is having her in your life that meant to you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Oh? I meant a lot, you know, because she supportive
with my kids and things like that. She handled my
kids and it's not hard. I mean, it's not easy
taking care of six kids by yourself. So I love
her daily for that. So when I'm out of training
camps and you know, like out in vadies right now,

(01:11:22):
she's handling the house and handle holding the ford down.
So it's definitely appreciated, you know, for me to have
a person like that at my corner.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
But you said some interest, You said the last one is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Not by her, right, last one not by her?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Oh oh, and you would tell how you sit here
with your eye dot closed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Things happen, like you know, different circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
How do you what was through? How you go home?
He baby? How you doing today? I'm good? But what's
going on or something?

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Well, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Ship? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Hey? So uh, how you're doing? Sit down? Let me
bud what you want to do? What you got to
tell me? Bud?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Nigga got went on the way just like that. But
you can't lie. How are you gonna lie? You better
tell her now it's gonna be worse with the baby
cup right, I'm just a man. What she say? What
she says?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah? Did you yell? Scream? Dot?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
You eye? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
You had hey?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
You know what, budd, you ain't got he hey, you
ain't got no three hundred thousand dollars call?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
She got one?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
No, she driving my savee maybo jail. Now you gonna
get a maybo? Are you tripping?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Now that you tripping? Mayboll?

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
No, baby, she don't fuck that's a nice, nice dry
by itself and a damn how many chances you got
three grand mamas? Three three different baby mamas. So the

(01:13:20):
first one the dot your art, the second one then
dot your other.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Blood. I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't with them like that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
But no, no, no, I don't care. You was with
them to have a baby boy. But I'm saying I
thought you was with them. No, I was with them.
They thought you was with them. It was it wasn't
like your situation. But I wish I'd have had a situation.
That's the only thing I regret. That's the only regret
to have. I wish I'd have had all three with
the same one. No matter whoever I would, whoever I

(01:13:47):
was gonna be with, I wish I'd have been able
to do that. I'm cool, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
You want more kids too? You ain't done. I bet
you have ten. I bet if I come back. I
bet if I come back four years from now, I
bet you have ten. I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I used to always sound ten.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Kids, man, you know, kids explicit, but it is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
That's why I'm like, that's why I pushed off, like,
hey hold up man. Yeah, the older they like my dad.
Can I I'm seventeen? Can I get a car?

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
And they like when you and I were kid buy
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
But I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
My house is never dull, right, you know. I love
being a father. You know, I love you know, the
whole yelling and arguing. Really yeah, yeah, man, that's because
you're gonna miss it when you get older. Yeah, You're
gonna be sitting around there with your with your wife.
She's gonna be grumpy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
It's gonna be a while before you have to worry
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I understand that. But you're gonna be bored and you're
gonna be like, damn, let me go. Maybe can you
make some grandkids, you know what I mean, because you're
gonna want them, them kids to love you and things
like that. And I just you know, my I'm on
she old and she broke her ankle one time and

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they put her in a nursing home to rehabilitate her ankle,
and to go in there and to see all those
old people that don't have no family or the family members.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Don't come right, don't come off yet.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I never wanted to be like that, Like I never
want to be like that. I never want to die,
you know, not loved or mistreated or my family not
being there to take care of So, you know, I
know my kids, but I know they bet not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
That's all I do. Y'all better be here, they bet not.
I ain't going to no home. I'm being right here
and y'all come take care of me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
And that's the joy of having a big family, you know.
Everybody stick together. My kids ain't got to worry about friends.
They got each other. You know, at the end of
the day, and when they mom and they died and
their grandma and grandma call pass away, they're gonna still
have each other from start to finish. You know, they're
gonna have each other because they're gonna have me from

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the start, but they ain't gonna have me from the finish.
But they're gonna have each other from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Best of luck, Bud Crawford. You say you seem like
you're getting ready. You I mean you, you're real, you
real loose right now, but I can tell that the
storm is brewing right right you You getting ready for

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something special.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I'm chilling. I'm chilling. I'm always ready. I'm always very special.
You know what I mean. You just gotta stay ready
so you don't gotta get ready.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
So let me ask you this. When you like, you
know what, how do you determine? Like, do you determine?
Do your team determine? Who and where are you gonna fight?
Or do you say, like, you know what, I want
to fight this guy he got a belt. I think
that'll be a very comp heal fight. That's a fight
that makes money and it increases my legacy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Well, it's a it's a team you know approach. But
for the most part, at the end of the day,
it's my decision, right because I'm the one. I gotta
go in there and fight and put the gloves on
and risk my health in my life. So at the
end of the day, it's it's on me, right, and
my team just supportive of what I want to accomplish
in the sport of boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
You and I were talking earlier and you said you've
got you were a football player, and then you're like
man later for deil because you were small. I think
you told me you were four eleven in as a freshman,
and so how do you determine how do you decide
to say, you know what, I'm gonna try boxing?

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Well, I was already boxing at the age of seven, Okay, okay,
I mean so being that I had got kicked out,
you know, I went to other sports, right, So I
went to basketball, football, wrestling, baseball, things like that. So, uh,
playing different sports along the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Way.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
When I got a little older, I was just like, man,
you gotta make a decision, right, what sports you're gonna
pl and I was just like man kind of too
short to play basketball, even though I played basketball in
high school. I was just like, I'm going back to boxing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
What drew you to the sport of boxing?

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
I think boxing drew herself to me. Okay, you know,
I think they like to fight. I love it. I
just think, you know, being that my dad, my uncle,
my grandpa, you know, my mom was around boxing her
whole life. I think it was just something that was
in the blood, right, you know, And that's what shose me.

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So you know, I've been boxing every since.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Who's your favorite fighter growing up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Did you watch Sugar Ray Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, Roy Jones?

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I mean, who was some of the guys that you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Roy Jones always been my favorite fighter of all time? Really,
Roy Jones? Floyd Mayweather hands down?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Wow, So you kind of you kind of follow him
kind of what you know? I think Floyd started off
at one thirty thirty five forty forty seven with to
fifty four. You started out at thirty five forty forty
seven in your middleweight. Now you're gonna try to We're
gonna talk about that a little later. Jump to two
weight classes. Go all the way to one to sixty
eight super middleweight. Roy did the unthinkable. Started out at

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junior middleweight, sixty sixty eight, go all the way to
one ninety three, take the belfer Luiz, come back down?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Do light do a light heavyweight?

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
When you were thinking like hold on in order to
be special, it's hard to be special and just stay
in one weight division where you did you always envision
going up in weight and try to clean out each division.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Not at all. You know. When when I look at
my life and how I started boxing, I always envisioned
myself being a world champion.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
That was it. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I never thought about being five of the year, pound
pound number one six times the year, you know what
I mean, Like none of that. You know, well nominated
right sixty times, but I never thought of that, you know.
I just was like, I want to be a world champion.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
That's it. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
But along the lines of becoming a world champion, I
was like, oh man, I want more more. I'm not
finishing it. I want more. So every time I grab,
you know, a new accolade, I'm like, all right, well
I want more. I want you to have something else
to a comment, Yeah, for sure, because when I'm looking
at it, Bud, you're the first mail two times in

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two different weight classes to be undisputed than the four
belt era that you got all a.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
If there's a belt, if there's an a man's belt, YSL.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Tom Ford, you got it, WBA IBF Ring Magazine, whatever
the belt is you have in two divisions, you're the
only You're the first male to do that. When you
sit back, I mean probably you haven't had an opportunity
to really think about it because you're still in it.
Do you realize and understand just how special what you've
done thus far is?

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Yeah, all the time, you know what I mean. Like
I was, I was at my house the other day.
I just built a new house and just got done,
and I was like, man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
It's a nod coughing fifty seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
I was like, hey, man, I ain't gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
No, but listen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
So I was sitting in the house and I was
just sitting there and I was just like, man, because
sometimes I don't congratulate myself, right, you know, I just
you know, keep it moving right. And I was like, man,
thank you God. I was just like, man, you did
all this with your hands, like, from this little dusty,
little black, little black dude from the neighborhood that is

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your name on the street. Now you did all that,
came this far to this, you know it's a blessing.
So I was just like, man, pat myself on the back,
look at my accomplishments, and you know what I mean,
just think to myself like anything is possible.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Because you hear a lot of athletes says, you know
when you say, well, what do you think you've done?
You're like, well, once I'm done, I'll get an opportunity
to look back. And because you're still in the journey. Fact,
you haven't arrived at the destination where you say, you
know what, I'm putting the gloves up, I'm hanging the
trunks up, and I'm in You're still You're still on
this journey. And for you to sit here and say
you know what I did, I mean, I was at
the house the other day and I'm looking around and

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I'm looking at the belts on the walls, and I'm
looking at all the accolades, and I'm like, wow, I
did all this. When you say I did all this,
what are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
No, I'm just thinking like you know more to do
is definitely more to come. Okay, That's why I said
anything is possible, right, you know, because I was doubted
my whole life, you know, coming up. You know, nobody
thought I was gonna be where I am at, right,
you know, I didn't think I was gonna be where
I'm at, especially living the life that I was living. So,
you know, to accomplish so much in the sport of

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boxing when so many roadblocks was in front of me
and try to stop me and block me from accomplishing
the things that I accomplish this far, it's like dog,
you you overcame so much, you can you can overcome
even more in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Do you sleep well building up to the fight, like
obviously you say, you know, like the last six weeks
you might go, you might come to Vegas, you might
go to Colorado Springs somewhere to go to get altitude training.
But let's just say the last two weeks of a fight,
the last week the let the waning got Like, let's
get the last week leading up to the fight, because
you probably arrived when you if you're fighting in Vegas,

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how soon you get.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
To Vegas probably like two weeks, two weeks before.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Do you sleep good?

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Yeah, of course. Do you still get nervous all the time?
I think everybody getting nervous. I don't. I don't. I don't.
I don't know a fighter personally that will keep it
real and be like, oh, I don't get nervous, right
because you never know, Like, I don't care how good
you is. I don't care how bad you think you are.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
That opponent always has a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Everybody always got a chance. You know, it could be
a punch that you don't see or some stupid crazy
you know what I mean, punch and you know it's
over with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
You know what I I heard Floyd Maywell, and I
talked to Floyd and he said that he didn't watch
his opponents. He didn't watch film and his opponent. That
was his dad's job, that was his uncle Roger's job.
They did that and they would implement the game plan.
Do you watch film on your opponents or do you
lead that up to your training team to tell you, Okay,
this is what he does and this is how we're
gonna combat that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Well, for the most part, everybody that I fought already
seen him fall. Okay, Because I'm a fan of the sport. Okay,
you know, so I follow you anyway, you know, but
far as like watching you and studying and saying now, nah,
like I watched some fights of you in camp, but
you're not gonna fight me the same way, right, No,

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No fighter that I ever fought fought me the exact
same way that they fought.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
But when I played, I didn't want to watch a
team that we're gonna play. So if they're playing on
the Monday night football, I'm not gonna watch them because
I didn't want to get a false sense because if
they played really good, I'm like, damn, how are we
gonna beat this team? If they play bad, I'm like, oh,
we got a cake walk. So anybody that we're gonna play,
I'm not watching them on television now. Obviously I'm gonna
watch the film because I gotta break them down and

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I want to know what they're gonna do down and
this this this area of the fields and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
But for you to say, like, you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Know, I've studied them, so you're watching them, let's just
say your ringside and you're watching them, and you're like, man,
if I thought this, dude, I would do this, this
I would take this away. I would do this. I'll
walk them into this trap. Is that how you're thinking?
You watching it? Because I'm analyzing the game. If I'm
watching a football game, I'm analyzing it. Oh they're in
this formation, they're vulnerable. Here, Okay, you better be careful
because the list can come catch you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I'm analyzing the game. I'm just not thinking about touchdowns
or catchers or yards. I'm analyzing the game. I'm playing
the game within the game. Is that how you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
You just okay, you can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Yeah, I'm watching as a fan. You know, I see
your openings. But at the same time, it depends on
if it's one of my teammate or somebody I know
that's fighting the fighter or or whatnot. But I'm just
watching as a fan. But if I'm about to fight
somebody and I do watch, I just watch for tendency. Okay,
things that you know they do on a consistent basis.

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You know, he do this, he do this, he do this,
he don't like this. You know, they don't like certain
things in a fight. So you just break certain little
little things down.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
When you you sit the ringside, do you get to
knowing when people say, hey, what you think?

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
But if he lose it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
What would you do when I'm at when I'm at
a football game, it's hard? Or are you when I
would go to a bar? Hey, what do you think
without a holding? What's your dep call here? What's your
the have done there? I'm like, bro, I'm trying to Can.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
You really enjoy the fight when you're at a fight?

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean because for
the most part, I'm with people that knows boxing, you know,
So I'm not I'm not in an area where it's
a whole lot of fans that don't know what they watching. Okay,
So I like to be, you know, in a spot
where you know, it's a lot of boxing knowledge, you know,

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and then for the most part, you know, everybody's just
watching it. You know. You hear people yelling out things
like job or keep your hands up and so so forth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
But I'm just watching you, So you don't definitely like, man,
come on, bro, you should have ran this man, get
down him.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Then like as a as a competitor, you know, you
think like, man, dude, you was tripping, Like you could
have did this and did this and did this. But
at the same time, you don't got no dog in
the race, so you just watch it as a as
a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Let me ask you this, when it's all said and done,
could you be a trainer? Because I think, you know,
we see Buddy McGirt did it. I think Virgil Hill
became a trend and there have been a lot of
guys that not like you because I think it's harder.
I think the greater the player is in a said sport,
the harder this from the coach because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
People think it came easy, and maybe it did.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
You work hard, but you just had natural gifts that
allowed you to see things and do things a lot
quicker than someone else that had to work for Could
you see yourself being the trainer?

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
But I don't know. You know, I think training is
is is tough. You know a lot of people don't
get these coaches enough credit. You know, they going from
their family. They probably have ten fighters, you know, they
camp here, camp here, camp here, camp here. You know,

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they away from their families. You got fighters that don't listen,
You got fighters that that talk back. You know, you
got you got to have a lot of patience to
be yes a trainer, you know, and or coach. Yes, yeah,
And I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
You ain't got no patience, Hu, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Got no patience. But they say that come with age, Yes,
you know they said they say it come with ads
because you know, you're sitting here and you're trying to
teach somebody something, but they keep doing the same stuff
that you're telling them not to do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
And it's like, bro, like, because let me ask you
a question.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Have the coach have like, Bud, we worked on this camp, Bud,
you can do this, Bud, just circle you know, outside,
step outside? Can you do you know, like like, damn,
I'm effing this up right now? Can you self evaluate
yourself while you're in the ring?

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Sure? For sure, you know I know what I'm doing
wrong when I'm doing you know, but at times we
all need a reminder.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
I might go back to the coach the corner and
the coach might tell me, hey, listen, you're doing this wrong,
you know, like I know, I know. Then we have
a conversation in the middle of the break. We're like
all right, and then I come back and be like,
all right, I see that, you fix that, But you're
doing this now, okay, you know, like, let's tighten that
up or you know, you'll be like, all right, good job,
good job. I see I see you working on this.

(01:29:44):
You know because me and my team we've been together
since I was seven. Wow. You know, so they know you,
you know them. You feel very comfortable. If they see
me trying something, they see they know what I'm trying.
If they see me how I'm moving or certain body languages,
they already know what I'm doing. Like all right, I
see you looking for it, you know what I mean,

(01:30:05):
but trying doing this to bring it out of him
so you can land what you want to land. So
you know what I mean. That's how close and type
me and my teams.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
You're in the fight, you're fighting. Are you thinking about
what you have to do? Or are you like, okay,
I'm thinking about doing this. His counter to this is this,
are you trying to like pick up tendencies what he's
trying to do? Are you more focused on what you
need to do.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
All the other above? You know, Like my head, my
head is racing like really.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Like crazy, you know what i mean.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
When I'm in the ring, I'm looking at the tendencies.
I'm looking at things that you do. I'm thinking that
I'm looking at things you don't do. I'm looking at
when I faint, what you do when I punch, what
you do, you know what I mean? When I counter you,
what you do. Like every everything that I do in
the ring is calculated.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Okay, you know, so I know, like I might.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Do something, don't don't do it until four rounds later, right,
But let me come back to that, you know what
I mean. Or I might throw a faint at you
and be like, all right, you know what I mean.
I see you win for that, but I ain't gonna
do it right now. But I'm gonna catch you a
little later because we got a lot of time, you know.
So you gotta be able to outthink the next fighter.
It ain't all about what I'm about to do to

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this guy. It's you know, I'm gonna break this guy down.
You know, I'm gonna take away what he's trying to do,
his strong points, and you know what I mean, make
it his weak points, you know. So it's a lot
of we hear other sports. Basketball players.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
We've heard Jordan Kobe Lebron, great players that zone football players,
tarn Brady Patrick Mahomes running back zone baseball player, Barry Bond.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Says, I'm in the zone.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
I can actually see I can tell the pitch that
the pitcher's gonna throw before he actually throw it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Bud, what is it like when Bud Crawford getting.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
The zone and everything's just flowing, you know?

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Can you like pinpoint like, oh, yeah, you about to
do I did this, You about to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Ready for that? And then everything just like does it
slow down?

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
I think I think every fighter at the highest level
get into that zone, and you just know because as
a boxer, you know if I throw this punch, what
punches can hit me? What what punches can counter? You know.
So you will see some fighters they'll throw a punch
and they have missed, but they'll be racing for the

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counter because you know they know, you know, this punch
can land if I if I if I throw this punch,
this punch can land, you know. So if this punch
can land and he countered with this, I can counter
with this because there is a counter for every counter.
So every time you open up throw a punch, you
sept the boat giving bunch, you know. But at the

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same time, if he counter me, I can counter him.
So you gotta always be thinking like you gotta split
second to think, you know, and that's when the winning
starts getting the like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
But help me with this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
We see guys in the amateurs and they don't win
much and they become world champs. And we see guys
that maybe lose one or two fights in the amateurs
and be some slow when it come to the pro
How what is it that big of a difference between
the amateurs and the pros.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Definitely, definitely for one. You know when I was when
I was in amateurs where it's fighting two men in
four rounds. In the nationals, you know, you got point system, right,
you know, everybody want to some people got pro styles,
some people got amateur styles. So you'll have somebody come
in and throw a whole bunch of punches, hold and

(01:33:41):
survive for four rounds. You know, that's the amateur game.
But then you got some fighters that have that style
that's just trying to catch up to you. You know,
you might jump out on them. But as you see
around three round four, you know this guy is holding,
but he just skated away, right. You know, he know
that he know how to move, you know, within the

(01:34:03):
amateur program. But then when you see when they turn pro,
the guy that was more tailor made for the professional,
you know, he he'd be more successful. Then you got
little smaller gloves, no headgear, you know, and it's a difference.
But see rounds getting ready for a fight.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
How many round you going?

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
But I don't even count my rounds?

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Really do you fight? Like, let's just say for the
sake of argment. So you have a guy come in
the first round. Do you have another guy come in,
the second guy, another guy come in, but different styles?

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Yeah, it depends. We might go two rounds, two rounds,
two rounds. We might go three rounds, two rounds. We
might go one one one one one to get different approach. Yeah,
you know what I mean. So who it's different. It
depends on what the coaches want at that day. Sometimes
you know we might spar one up, sparring part partner

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the whole real session. You know you always parted here
gear you always Yeah, for sure, I protect yourself right,
you know, you don't want to get cut, you don't
want to take too many punches. And training what.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Size training gloves? Fourteen out six sixteen sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
Yea, what type of gloves you fight? In tens and
now I used to fight at eight. Well, what's brand
ever Last? I have some Everlast? Does anybody still fighting rayls?
Because they when I was growing up, everybody fall rays
here and there. You will see some fires here and there.
But for the most part ever Last winning gant, well

(01:35:36):
not winning but winning yeah hand yeah, okay, because they
do they are cutting it. So you got rival, you
got Everlavet, and you got grant for the most part. Okay,
that people fighting in right now? How did fellow fighting
his own gloves?

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
How did you?

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
How did you decide what type of glove you with
the trial and error? You fighting a lot of different
gloves and says, okay, these field the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Best for for for for me, I only thought in
Everlast except my last fight, I think ever Last, you know,
me being comfortable with them and them being the the
gloves that I started with. I just was always comfortable
with them, you know. And then when I put on

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a different glove and they just was they just feel
different because all of them made different.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
So you know, I was just always what are you
looking for in the glove?

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Because some people like like I want to feel my
knuckle right to the top I want to be I
want you to feel it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Just I just want my hand to be comfortable because
I got big hands, right, yeah, you know, so uh
when I put them in in the uh in the
eight ounces, man, they be like like this man, like
when you go to fight, you want everything to be
comfortable here, you know what I mean? So uh. I
used to get the xis because they wider, right, you know,

(01:36:53):
the powa loocks is more thinner, you know, but X
is wider.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
So I you gotta tape your hand. And he's been
taking your hand your whole career.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Me. Yeah, you take your own hands, or you have
somebody else tap me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
You take your own, are you? Said the guy?

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Yeah? I have.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Are you the only party to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
You got many pack y'all that taped his own hands.
Steven Nelson, he taped his own fighters doing right. I
always did it because in the amateurs, you know, I
had a time where I had let one of my
coaches take my hands and they felt it they fell asleep,
And ever since then, I was like, man, I'm not
doing that. No more going in there like the hair

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and all sleeping stuff. So I've been doing it ever
since I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Wow, I appreciate the technique, but you know, for sure
I should have been a heavyweight. But see, the thing is, Bud,
what you've been able to do is because you did
this for an extreme. Like you said, you started bocking
at seven, so you got thirty plus huge of experience.
It's just like somebody plays football, somebody plays basketball, somebody
plays baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
You're not finna start and say.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
You know what I think I'm gonna go to I'm
gonna be a professional baseball player.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
I'm gonna pick this up in my twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
You ain't gonna never hit the curve, you ain't gonna
never hit the slider, and you're not gonna catch it
with the fastball. But you could see punch of stuff
that I wouldn't even think about seeing. That joke that
hit me about four or five times, hands back by
side light.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (01:38:33):
All my life?

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle Pa Price, one slice
got the bron Geys.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
To swap all my life. I be grinding all my life,
all my life, grinding.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
All my life, sacrifice, hustle Pa Price, one slice got.

Speaker 5 (01:38:50):
The broner Geist the swash all my life I'd be
grinding all my life.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Yousssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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Club Shay Shay - Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford Part 2

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