Gary Owen Part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Let's
talk about what's going on now. This this this rap beef,
this rap discan. I mean, it seems like everybody's team
coming after Drake. You got k dot you know J
Cole took his shot. You got rass where you at
on the rap beat alone Drake at least, I mean

(00:20):
the white I mean the lights kin.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Do they don't sleep on that mix?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Boyd.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, ya, y'all gonna hit you
with the ghetto and the suburbs ship both sides. Yeah,
you don't die. I don't mess with Drake bro. I
like you know, I'm not a hip hop head. I
listen to hip hop right yeah, Drake Man. I don't
think Nick Mills ever quite recovered. Remember that, like seventy

(00:43):
years ago, back to.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Back, Drake bid Drake, Drake's fanos.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's why everybody, everybody, That's why everybody team looks trying
to take it.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Everyone want to work with him, Everyone's to work with him. Yeah,
he's the guy right now right.

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Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's talk about your movie career. It gets started.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Did you always want to do movie because it seems
like it's a natural transition. You go back and obviously
you had Cosbon, you had prior, you had Murphy, you
had a lot of guys in comedy, do real well
transitioning to the movies?

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Did you want did you always want to be in movies?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah? Yeah, that was always a goal. I never I
never thought it'd be like TV. I thought to be movies. Right, Uh, yeah,
that was I mean, you do stand up, that's the
Those are the dreams, like when you start doing stand up,
like if I get movies and stuff like that. So
that was always the goal, some movies and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Hold on you almost a part of Jango. What what
you go do in Jano?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
No, I auditioned for Django, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
you do what one of the henchmen. I never I
never said the inwards so much in my life and
it all this and the casting Rectord was a black lady.
So I go in, I'm looking at the sides and it's.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Inward, inward, inward, inward.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm like, kid, and I'm looking at it. I go,
you got to kidding me. Cast it was a black lady.
I'm like, I apologize afterwards, very sorry about everything I
just said.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
One of them.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, I don't know what look if I didn't
get it, so I don't know what part. Uh, I'm
auditioned for it. But it was one of the one
of the dudes that was trying to kill Jamie.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Right. Check us out think like a man the franchise,
I like you.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I mean you were cold to you. See see how
level headed you are you with doubt?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Hey, what yo? I mean your role that you played
anything like a man Bennett?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, yeah, that was cool. That was cool. That was
a good that was it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
But that ain't you.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, no, no, it wasn't me. I had a whole back.
I was like I wanted to because you know, you
want to go back and forth. But it was funny
when I got the part, Like I think I was
the first one to like sign on because I already
Will Packer called the shouts out the WILF. But Will
Packer called and he was like, yo, I got this
movie man. He goes, we need a white guy that

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kid hang out with black guys but not act black,
and we want you to bring your own spin to it.
And originally Will was trying to get me to play
Jerry Ferrara's party and then just things happened. The head
of screen is like Nazi Gary Moore's Bennett, and and
it worked out. I thought it all worked out in
the end because now that's the one movie like us
guys are still cool, like if you call them they're

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there if you need something, you need to make a
social media post or I'm having an event. I never
and I you know, Michael Ealy said, he goes, you know,
acting in movies like summer Camp. You have fun where
you're there, but then it's over. You've probably never see
these people again. And obviously people go through separate ways.
But the Six of Us, man, that was that was
like some brother type because yeah, I realized two thousand

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even we filmed the first one, twenty twelve comes out,
so we're doing press together. Twenty thirteen, we're filming the sequel.
Twenty fourteen, we're doing press hanging out again. That's four
straight years we hanging you know what I mean. So, yeah,
those guys, I love all those guys, man, They're great.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
The book, did Steve give too much information away?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I didn't really read it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I was like this, Oh, you pretending like you don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
They asked me, did I read it? I was like yeah,
I was like it was informative.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I was lying.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I ain't read that book. I just go to the pictures.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
You mentioned the guys that you work with. Kevin Hart. Obviously,
what's k Heart like? Because people like they filed for
him that he give them opportunities. He's always trying to
put people in position to succeed. What's your relationship with
k Heart?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
You know we I met Kevin ninety eight in New
York when he was little keV, And you know, Ken's
cool man. It's like when you just get him like
we're doing right now, he's the same dude. It's just
whom we leave here. It gets weird because the public
starts going nuts. I remember the first time I'm so
supposed to go nuts, like what they tripping on It
is keV, you know, but Ken, like I've noticed on
your show too, I've seen there's been a theme like

(05:36):
Monique was down, keV looked out, Amanda was down, keV
looked out. I had there last night with a gentleman.
He was like, yo, keV took care of me, not
took care of me, but gave me a job, and
nobody else to give me a job, right, And I
was like, that's three people. When my divorce happened, keV was.
keV reached out and he goes, you know, you need
if you need legal advice, need help financially because of

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this stuff can get expensive. He was call me, and
I'm like, I'm I'm a grown man. I ain't gonna
go to some other grown man for help. I'll work
it out. But then yeah, but and then we're shaving
with forty four thousand. I did call him back. Yeah
you got to you got Jumid's residional check hanging around. No, no,
but he called, he called for help, and Ken just

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solid man. So that when he when the when the
when people the hate come towards him, I think it's
just because he's like quote unquote top of the food chain,
you know what I mean. But it's funny too, because
like when you had cat on, I was like, Cat's
very generous too to people. Cat did one of the
coolest things anybody ever did for me in my career,
just in the moment. We were in Austin, Texas together.

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And I've told this story on other platforms and stuff,
but it was right when he popped, like two thousand
and six around then, right, And I just remember we
had a show like six months prior at a college
and we was like in a ballroom and like one
hundred kids showed up. I get a contract. We're at
the Frank Irwin Center, in Austin, Texas, and it's the
that's the basketball arena, and I was like, why do

(07:01):
I mean Cat at the basketball right now? I think
we're more of a theater thing, right man. I showed
up there was something goddamn people, and I go oh
because I'm remember a Sokago when this happened. It's on
just six months and then the show's over, right, we
go back. The provoter gots two different limos, and my
limos in front of Cats and Cat's limos behind me.

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I get back to the hotel for Cat and I'm
trying to go out for a little bit. So I'm
trying to tell the limo driver. I was like, hey, uh.
I was like, look, I needed a limo for a
couple more hours. Can I get it? It's yes, three
hundred dollars. Try to give him cash. He wouldn't take it.
So I need a credit card. I said, it's cash,
just take it. He goes a company policy. Man, I
keep mine. I'm married. I don't want this charge credit yes.

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I'm like, I can't put it on credit on it?
And then I got I gotta answer for going out.
So Cat pulls up as I'm having the schedule with
my driver. Cat pulls up and just walks up and
he goes, Hey, what's going on here? I was like,
and I said, the driver wants three hundred dollars. He
won't take cash. I go, he wants a credit card.
And I'm telling Kat, I don't want to stand on
my credit card. And my wife Hall said, I gotta
discuss this stuff. Right, Kat goes hold on, takes my

(08:07):
driver around the back of his limo. Right. I don't
know what they talked about. I don't know how much
money Cat gave that dude, but this is the whole conversation.
We came back. He goes, he yells for the evening
Gary and Joel your knight. Oh yes, they do except
cash and away. I don't know how much can I
don't know how much Cat gave that driver. When I
say he pulled in the club, I got out. I

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was on the dance floor.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Up saying yo.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Then he takes me back. I get up. The next morning,
he's still standing there. Wait a message. How much money
can't give this dude? He goes, yeah, mister Williams said,
take you to the airport. I was like, Wow, to
this day, I don't know how much money Cat gave that.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Dude, I'm looking at the cash.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Gabrielle you and and Chris Brown was also in making
good Raji Man, you had him outstanding cash. What was
it like working with all those those personalities and then
everybody blowing up?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Jerry Ferrera said the best when we went to the
table read and everybody was there before we knew what
it was. keV had all the twenty s right, and
I was and Jerry said, the best he goes. It
was set up for Kevin to hit a home run.
We just didn't know how far he was going to
hit it. Right, That still going, that ball still going.
That was some bugs bunny type shit. But everybody was

(09:23):
very like inclusive, like it's like, yo, I think this
would be funny.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Try it.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
There was no egos, There wasn't like somebody was stealing
their shine. Everything. It was the most like I mean,
you just look forward to going to work. Everybody was cool,
and then of course your boys like who's gab Like
what you look like up close? Making like up close
it's weird when you work with them, you don't look
at him like that. I'll be looking at them like
why did I tripping. I mean, she cool, but you

(09:50):
were looking at him like a cousin, you know what
I mean to this day, like why people like tripping
over Megan?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's just Megan.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Everybody was cool, especially us guys, man, because we know
it was very accepted. We didn't see the girls a lot,
so especially on the second one, but we'd see him
every now and then. But there was more of the
six guys working together all the time. Man, this is
just solid.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You were in Love Chronicles with Terrence Howard.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Holy cow, what'd you pull that one out of?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And he's suing c AA what I mean. Obviously you've
been in this business a long time and you know
how agencies work. I'm trying to figure out. I mean,
he's like he's suing them over his Empire salary because
I guess he's saying that he was only paid X
amount of dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I mean, but it's kind of hard. What did you
sign the contract for? Yeah, that stuff?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
T Crew said you can't nod yes in me No, I.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Saw that episode two.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yep, creuz good.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
He was good.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
So, have you had any bad experiences with with with
the management agencies or you do your are Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean they're always sticking a movie and you always
feel like he should be working more. They always feel
like you should have more. Uh. But as far as
like suing an agency or a studio for for like wages, no,
because it's like, you know, you negotiate and it's like
you want to not now. In the middle of my divorce,

(11:20):
I got sued by some dude. I think I want
to really shout him out because I want to make
sure I hate opportunists. His name is Mike CARLINI is
that right? What is it okay, Joe Carlyn? Yeah, yeah,
let make sure I get that name right. This this

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piece of Joe CARLINI this dude, and I've never met
the due in my life. I don't know who he is,
and I really hope he sees this. He said that
I stole the movie idea What Men Want that Taraji
was in that Will Packer produced, that Paramount was behind I.
He gave the idea to me. I gave it to

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Will and then they made the movie and he didn't
get anything from it. And I go keep in mind,
I wasn't in that movie. I audid it for that
movie and didn't get the part. And I go, I
gott nohe do with that movie. You figure if I
had the idea, I'm not a producer on it. I
got nothing to do with it. We come to find
out back in twenty fifteen, he somehow he got my email.
He emailed me something and we had to get like

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a person to go through all your emails and check it.
It showed that I opened the email, but I didn't
send it to anybody. I don't even remember open it.
That's how he sued me and I had to fight.
This cost me one hundred and ten thousand dollars for nothing.
It didn't okay, thanks Lisa. You know what I don't know.

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I don't know a goddamn thing. You know what, I
don't know his name. I probably got the wrong movie.
This is what you go through the divorce.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You forget right, or at least try to.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, now, this dude, Joe Careleedy. They went to my email,
and I guess they found out I didn't. They couldn't
find the email. But just the fact that I had
to pay these lawyers to fight this because he kept
like appealing it and I'm the one that was out like,
I'm sure Paramount fought it with their lawyers, and I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
They got a lot more money to fight with a
lot of money.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I'm the one like, now, now we gotta go
to Paramount and beg, like, hey, can you guys give
me a couple of dollars Because that's the crazy part
about this business, right in fact, you can just get
accused of something and you're like, you gotta fight it
in court. Yeah, And I'm going this is all in
the middle of divorce. So I'm getting the force attorney bills.
I'm getting my attorney's fighting this frivolous lawsuit of a movie.

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The thing bottles in the movie, maybe you could have
said something I would even in it, you know what
I mean. I had nothing to do with it. And
that movie's a remake. It was a Mail Gibson movie.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Meet the Blacks, Mike Ye, Little Duval, Michael Blacks and
Smooth Dogg Charlie Murphy, Mike Tyson, Paul Mooney, what's like
being on what's it like being on a set with
a lot of comedians?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's the best. That's the dream set right there. That
was it that said was so much fun? We were inside,
we shout out to Dean Taylor, but we were outside
of Sacramento, on some farm. I'm talking like an hour
and a half outside of Sacramento, and we were standing
at the Best Western End because that was the only
hotel near it, and it was a It wasn't a
great hotel either, but just I think it was my

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first time really working with Epps like that and Duvall,
and it means the best because they just especially Dion
it to direct comedians like that. It's just like, just
let him go. We'll get we'll get one off the script,
but let us go and then usually we'll come up
with something funnier than once. Yeah. Yeah, And he just

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let it. At one point, I remember Dan, I was
just rambling then goes, hey, we just need one that's
on the page. I didn't realize, like take.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Six, what do I do? I'm gonna get this right?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Obviously you mentioned the early cat Cat was on here,
and I guess we're still trying to recover, recover.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
We're talking about I'm looking at your watch, on your teeth,
your glasses, your haircut than everybody got to raise.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Well that's what that's what Cat told me. Cat said
when you went award, No, you went awards, I get
a prize? You get him? Huh would you get him?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
He I'm gonna let him tell you. I'm gonna let
him tell you. No, I haven't gotten him anything. He
doesn't he doesn't want anything. When you hear it, did
you know that this was like kind of behind the
scenes that comedians I had no idea people telling me
they mad at me, But what Cats said on my platform,
I'm like, guys, do you think I know what goes

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on the comedic world.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I didn't know that there were beefs, Like, did you.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Know there's always beefs, There's always been Did you know
it was to this extent. Here's the thing. Cat is
so damn smart and his delivery is so good. It's
very engaged, you.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Know, how to tell the story there?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Man, he's a great storyteller. Yeah, he's a great narrator.
But yeah, we all know those beasts. That's green room talk, right,
you know, he just aired it publicly, and you know,
because we all know who. We all know who ain't funny,
we all know who's a hack. Where there's rumors, people
steal jokes. I don't I don't ever go to the
route like somebody just stole a joke, because I'm always like,

(16:27):
we think alike, man, right, we think alike a lot,
you know, and then sometimes you don't even realize it.
Like I've seen people like start to act like people
their mannerisms, their delivery and stuff like that. So, I mean,
sometimes people do steal. I ain't gonna say it doesn't happen,
but I'm not just gonna out now accuse you.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
But okay, So that's so because the thing was that
I had said on and I asked him, I said,
Cat wants to cue, you're stealing a joke, and he said, well,
the timeline doesn't add up. Well, I didn't even have
to bring it up. A couple of cat came on.
Cat brought it up and saying how the timeline doesn't
add up. He said, the only difference is is that

(17:06):
you took my car and turned it into a spaceship.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So I think he was upset and he says, well,
I gave you a grace, I gave you a past.
You said you sorry, blah blah blah, and then to
come out here and say that didn't happen, but you're
saying that if somebody stole your joke, you ain't gonna
front him.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
You ain't gonna put it out there on front Street.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm a little more passive aggressive. Less it's my dad
or step there, I'm a little more passed. Yeah, I don't.
There's some instances where they just took it. And you know,
the only time I know somebody took my shirt was
there was a show on Showtime called Chalk of Sundays
and they did this whole bit of how a white
guy can get away of saying the N word and
what he does. He'd be like, SHITN and you mind,

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and there'll be a black guy next to him and
he'll say the N word for him. Right. Yes, I
saw that sketch and I go, way, man, that's my joke.
I close with that on my special in twenty eleven
Coach True Story. How that joke came about was I
was at the end prov on a Monday night. D
Ray Davis was there. He's got it on he's got
it on his little hand. Old Camery sent it to me.

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I'm talking like two thousand and seven. This happened. When
the joke came out, I got a Heckler. We were
going back and forth. I said, well, why don't you
come on stage because the Heckler was like, when you
got the mic, you always go to win, I said.
I said, like I said, man, if I was black,
I would call you the and word right now, but
I'm not allowed. And then the crowd's laughing right and
you know, the crowd say said, I said, I ain't

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gonna say it, and I was like, d Ray, can
you say it for me? D Ray comes on stage.
I start going into dude, and d Ray starts saying
a word for me. That's what the joke came about.
So now I'm watching this show Chalk of Sundays, and
I'm seeing they got these two black dudes and the
white dude and they're basically turned my joke into a sketch.
I called the EP and I was like, yo, Joe.

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I was like, Pooey, poo yours to Kevin, I said, Pooge.
I go, what a name, right, Poogy? I said, Pooge
who wrote the joke? So I can know where to
direct my anger at. He said, yeah, I don't know. Gee.
We got a think tank and comedians just get in
the room and we start throwing ideas around. I said, well,
find out who came up with that premise. I said,

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you know that's my bid, it's on showtime, it's all
right now, and nobody could give me an answer. So
somebody got in that think tank or like, hey, you
know what a good idea, but we got everything on video.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, how often do you watch other comedians?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Do you watch it? Do you watch You don't watch
anybody currently. You don't like man, that dude, that dud
he nice with it? You watch like clips, But.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I don't want to watch means for the reason Cat said,
I don't want to ever think my jokes ain't mine.
I don't want to watch someone like that was a
good bit or I should have thought of that. It's
two things, like I get frustrated. Why I'll get frustrated
because why do they have a special and I don't,
but all comedians think we deserve the special, right, And
then I don't want to ever think that. I don't

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want to psych myself out. I seen comics do that.
They'll stop doing because somebody's doing a bit on the
same time, get better than they are, right, So I
was like, I just obviously watched clips. Now with TikTok
and Instagram, you might catch something to sit down and
watch an hour. I was like, I just can't. I
don't have I got an ADHD self diagnosed, and.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
And I just can't.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Like I said, I just I do it so much.
The last time we do is go to a comedy
club or another comedy show, and I'm not on it.
So I just I just don't.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
The Williams where are Where are they?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because I don't think they get nearly enough credit because
what they did with Living Color.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Man that that still holds up.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's dang. I mean, and look who was birthed out
of that. Yeah, Jim Carrey and Jamie Fox and David
Allen Greer and Tommy Davidson obviously the Wayams brother.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean, why do you? Why don't they? Will we
ever see another in Living Color again? Could that happen?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Leave it alone? Just leave it alone. That's greatness. Don't
touch it, say following us possible.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
But you know, anytime you have success doing something, somebody
want to reboot it. Man, we see the animation of
a good time.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You saw that?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah right, I'm like, my god, Now leave it alone,
let it ride, Let it ride.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So what is your relationship do you have any comedians
that you know? You know Cad like he has this
group that he stays away from. Obviously Monique has heard,
so she stays away from. And are they anybody that
you like? You don't have to say no name, but
do you like I'm better in my little box, and
I'm gonna let you play in your little No.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm cool with everybody. I'm not different. You don't wrong,
you know.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I thought I thought Monique was really engaged. I like Monique.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
About Monique, though, like you're allowed to be made fun of.
We're comedians. Somebody's gonna see this and everything gonna make
fun of me, you know. And so it's like I
I snapped a little bit years ago because not over
the Tyler Perry or the Oprah stuff. Because she she
basically compare Will Packer, who's a friend and a guy

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that employed me and a guy that helped take my
career to another level. She compared to Harvey Weinstein. Huh yeah,
she goes just like these girls gotta be quiet and
stuff like this. It was like his name was in
the same sentences, Harvey Weinstein and I go you know,
and nobody said anything. I go, ah, I'm gonna stand
up for my boy real quick. I didn't think it
was that big of a deal. I literally was in

(22:23):
the carpool line to pick up my daughter at school
and I was kind of just sitting there, so I
just did a video. I didn't think it was that
boovie deal. But think about it. I never called out
her name. I never like said she was wrong about
other stuff. I'm just like in that instance when that
situation when she said will Packer Harvey Weinstein, I was like,
that's not cool, you know what I mean, because I

(22:44):
honestly he gave her a part in a movie when
people really wasn't messing with him, and he, you know,
whatever happened over that, I don't know. I don't know
about that fire on the set that nobody got hurt.
I don't know about that. But when she I did
a on my podcast, I talked about her, like like
her and her husband will do their little their little

(23:06):
Instagram lives, and I go, man, they're really good at
saying they love you and then cut your throat the
next thing. May yeah, we love you, man, we do
know you got an abortion in Texas and that's illegal.
The cops are on their way, but we love your brothers.
When they get there, you're gonna have to get bail money.
And I don't know how you're gonna get that because
we got your bank accounts frozen. But we love you clearly.

(23:28):
I'm making fun of them, but I'm just having but
that's what we do, right, So you know, I heard
them going through their podcast afterwards after I said something
like that, and they was like snapping. I remember Hustan
was like, and our brother Gary Owen, you're invited. You're
a guest in the black community. And I'm thinking I
got more black kids than you. I just got two more, right,

(23:50):
I got a squad now. So uh And then they goes,
you know, he said, you know, and you brought up
we say people got abortions money too.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's what what I go.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It was a joke. I was making fun of you,
which were allowed to do. You know, we can't take
everything so serious and literal. I don't live. I ain't
none against him nothing, but you are allowed to me
just like Amanda, a man of hills comes on there self,
diagnose yourself with autism. So of course I'm gonna bring
it up. That's what we do. I didn't say, I
didn't call her out her name right nothing. I ain't

(24:25):
say she was wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
But you know, I'm gonna get it now. I'milla get
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I gonna get it because I ain't protecting my black
my black queens when you said what you said, and
because I didn't push back.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, now you don't love me in and some stuff.
I ain't got nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's all I want to have this interview. That's the
only thing I wanted. Let's treat you to get to
step down from the black women. That was my cold.
You didn't have to defend your queen exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know that cupt castpoke very highly of you as
one of these guys that haven't sold out to the industry, right,
And if I I'm not mistaken, I think you said
there was a situation because Cat said there's sometimes that
you know, men do things behind the scene that that
they don't have anything to do with that acting and
they they go right, you mentioned that somebody you don't

(25:19):
you kept like, I think, I'm not sure. I don't
want to look.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, you know, I knew the guy was hitting on me.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
There was no lines crossed, nobody was touched. I wasn't
promised a job. I still got the job. Put the
dude hit on me. You know when somebody's hitting on you, right,
But it wasn't like a Terry Creuse situation. Nobody touched me.
Whether you got to do this or you won't get
the job. Dude clearly inquired, you know, am I interested?
And I was like, so there's no reason for me
to throw this dude under the bus. You are allowed

(25:49):
to hit on people, right. No, I'm mad at myself
because what kind of.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Vibe was I giving?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
He thought it was okay to tink it was okay.
So I was like, that's why I say, people like
you gotta say your par the problem. You know, this
guy's a predator. I go, this dude is not a predator.
It was a guy that hit on me, and it's
not my place to out him, you know what I mean.
So I'm never gonna say who it was. It wasn't
Jackie Chan, Okay, That's all I'm giving you. It wasn't

(26:18):
or Chris Tucker. So that's all you get. What are you?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
What are your thoughts on actors in dresses. Would you
wear a dress for a movie role check?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Was right?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Do it all braw panners? I shave my legs. Yeah,
but you know, if it's funny, if it's funny.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
But gear here's the thing, and I think you know
this white men on Dustin Hoffman did it? Williams, Robin
Robin Williams did it? Misdoubtfied told see it's looked that
differently when a black man puts that dress on. Now,
nobody said anything because Flip Wilson was the first guy
that I remember doing it when he was Geraldine he
had this show on television.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
But since then you remember that?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't remember it, but I know he dressed as
a woman.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes, yes, but since And the guy that catches the
most criticism obviously is Tyler Perry because the Medea role
that he plays.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
What do you think Tyler Perry regrets putting on that dress?

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, no, right, that's what I'm saying. He put the
titties on. Yeah, the billy. I think at one point
he had a Cambelton. Yeah, I said, he going too
far down? Is that Kimmelton? Tyler? Is that Kimmel told Tanner.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Do you want Do you want to be in more
Ruby movies? Are you good with where you're doing stand up?
Because it seems like you're every week So how many
how many how many days a week?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
How many days a year? Do you actually?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I can I could work every weekend if I wanted to,
because you're looking at you look at the tours, the
theater dates, the comedy club dates. Every now get a
corporate gig. But I mean I could work every weekend
i wanted to, And I work a lot, you know.
Now that another in a better spot financially and everything,
so I don't have to work every weekend. So I am,

(28:13):
for the first time probably in my career, taking some
weekends off just to enjoy everything.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So join some of the money that you're make it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, but the road life isn't bad. We're still staying
at nice hotels. We go to work for a couple hours.
The hardest part about our job is to travel once
you get to a certain level. So yeah, the goal, obviously,
the goal is to be in more movies, you know
what I mean. And I'm not really tripping off TV
anymore like this, this to me is for my audience

(28:42):
where I'm at. It's way bigger than the Tonight show,
way bigger than the late night talk show or daytime
talk show. So when you guys called it said you
want to do it, I was like how much? And
you guys like, we don't pay. I was like, well,
I want bottle of water. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, no, we appreciate you. Yeah, real husbands of Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I only did one episode. Why because my wife, my ex,
wasn't famous. That's because I asked them. I said, el
as Chris Spencer. I said, how come y'all never asked
me to do that? When it came out, and I
wasn't like asking like how could you not use me?
I'm literally asking like did my name come up? He
goes yeah, but you're it was real Husbands of Hollywood
and everybody's wife outside of Kevin obviously, but he was

(29:26):
like they was like their wife was in the business
or someone famous. They goes, yours wasn't, And I go, oh, yeah,
that makes sense, you know what I mean? But I
did an episode. It was fun.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, it was fun. You see.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It seemed to me like like could you would you
like to be in movies in which other.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Comedian because it seemed like you have the best time
when you like people, like, you know, y'all bouncing ideas,
y'all just having a good time.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Like you said that what was it called the Black
Yeah you really?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, I'm not just saying that you didn't love a
thing like a man because obviously that was an all
star cast. Yeah, but what's your ideal movie situation? Oh,
what's the role, what's the ro, what's the what's the
I know it, I know it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Remake the jerk. Remake the jerk. That'd be the dream
role for me. The Steve Martin movie. Yes, you're raised
by a black family? Yeah, got on his own. You
could rework it and remake it to update it. That
to me from my audience and how I live my life,
I'm just thinking, like the ad libs and what I
could bring to that character would be the dream role.

(30:27):
And second would be the only only white guy. And Wakanda.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Like literally like oh my god, like it's too you
know the agent were there they about being there, like
there's a.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Bunch of light skinned with Kandians. Where do you come from?
And here I come out?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
You know what I mean, oh, it's the white tugger.
Why don't you pitch the idea what the white guy
would come out? The jerk the remake? Yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
We just did it.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
We just did it.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
You even realized we did? And did you watch this?
Better be a clip? Really yeah, that better be one
of your clips.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Now, hell, now you ain't doing it? Come on, Shannon,
did your.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Boy Joab what the white guy just got drafted as
a cornerback in the NFL? Times are changing, but you.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Know it's what every twenty years because the Jason Seahorn
was before that, remember him with the Giant.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, ninety four a c on the preseason game returning kickoff.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, I know football.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
And then Scott it was Scott Case before him.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, I member Scott for the Falcon Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Remember Scott can y'all got three of the last thirty five.
That's okay?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, how many how I'm asking this?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
How many kickers you got? Uh? Yeah, you got new
extra points, mister soth Black guys, it's sixty six. It's
twelve to twelve.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Bill Illuminati, I've heard a lot of people talking about
the illuminati. What is the Illuminati? I don't know that
doesn't exist. I don't know you and Holly would Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I ain't seen it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
You ain't ever gone to no secret meeting? Nope. M
m mmm. What happens something A line it up? What
are you up? If I get the.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Jerk there's an illuminati? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
What about all these what about all these Hollywood parties
that people be talking about you in Hollywood? You know
about these parties. I was like, I ain't got ain't
nobody invited to be nowhere?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I mean I'm in the When I first got to
l A, I saw some Wow. I was just some
wild stuff I would take to the grave, like parties
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But you was there, active participant.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I would acting participant. I saw not. I'm not talking
about gage either. Yeah, I'm talking about like heterosexuals.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, but I'm saying, wow, though I was like, yeah,
you wasn't no participant. Well it wasn't no fun what
you watching.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'm not saying I didn't take a girl back to
my pat When I say you a participant, but I
didn't do it in front of people. It's at the party,
you chicken huh, you chicken, you ain't living anybody trying
to see this glow in the dark going up and
down like that's the fun man.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, let me ask what a gatekeeper? Are there such
a thing?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, definitely is. But I think we're getting away from it.
I think now you can take control your own career.
You don't need the machine to get behind you. Between YouTube, TikTok, Facebook,
we're at a great age. I think the gatekeepers are
kind of leaving. But there was for a long time.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Really, I was talking.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I was talking to my manager and she was telling me,
like when she started, she was working for a big
time producer and she goes, Yeah, she goes, I used
to have to deliver scripts to his house and she goes,
and he would have to read all of them. Then
he makes a decision which ones are we gonna do?
To me? That's a gatekeeper. I'm like, now, I saw
did a country wait on here? Yes, he did his

(33:43):
own movie independently. And you don't know when lightning is
going to strike in the ring. Let's let me tell
you there's gonna be a movie. There's gonna be a
movie on two wee, They're gonna be movie on YouTube.
All that ship where everybody's gonna start flocking to it,
It's gonna happen. Eventually. I was like, damn, they did
it for thirty thousand dollars something, you know what I mean.
They ain't gonna be the that's a big budget. Let's
cold find a jerk with Black Panther three. Hell yeah,

(34:06):
we just did that.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Come on, do you go out with Wendy Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Okay, Jesus, your crack team is unbelievable. Bro, you got
next thing?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Are you circumstance? Let me go with the car, right
Queen Liby?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, no, no, Wendy, here's what happened. Right with the
vorce happened. I went on her talk show and she
asked man on the date on the talk show. So
afterwards she called me off the air and she goes, Gary,
we're just going She goes, I know it came off
like that on the TV show, and she was very candid,
like I am interested, but she was like, look, it's

(34:46):
just dinner. It's public, There'll be other people there. Why
wouldn't I meet her for dinner in a public place?
Because however you feel about Wendy, she's a mogul, and
she rolled the dice on herself. She had making I
think seven figures on a radio show, said nah, I'm
a bet on myself and got her talk show to me.

(35:07):
I'm like, why wouldn't I sit down have dinner somebody,
just to talk? And that's all we did. Uber to
the restaurant, I got there, we talked. I uber back
to the hotel.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
You know that was it?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
What time did you get back to the hotel? Soon's
dinner was over. I didn't sleep with her.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
What time did she leave?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I don't know. Eleven thirty.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
You're just kidding.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, we did not miss around though. Yeah, yeah, she
got tattooed right here. Though you like this, why you
got Mickey Mouse on your only but chet? I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Obviously, the movie Thing Like a Man was written by
Steve Harvey. I read that you didn't have the greatest
relationship with Steve. See that's the headlines talking. I've always
been cool with Steve. What happened with that whole situation?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
When he moved his talk show from Chicago to LA
I went on the show as a guest. He pulled
me aside and was like, he's telling me like, I'm
about to move this show to LA. We're going to
make it a nighttime field, but a daytime talk show.
But I want to bring you on as like a
co host. So I'm thinking like Johnny Carson ed McMahon.

(36:14):
So I'm like, yeah, I want to do that, of course.
So I'm excited I go back on this show again
for some for when I was still in Chicago, like
a couple months later, he goes, hey, they call you
yet about the dus and called me. It was really
next day, I got a phone call from a producer.
Steve told me to call you, and it was very apparent.
That's why I said, this isn't on Steve. That producer

(36:36):
was I don't think you knew who I was. I
think he was looking at like this is a favor,
Like I don't have anything going on in my life.
I could tell by the tone of conversation. Steve told
me to call you, and it was very dry. I
fly to LA and meet with the dude for lunch,
and then I could tell I got I say, yeah,
I got all these ideas right, he just kept shooting
them down. Yeah, we got something for that. We're not
worried about that. I was like, man, what you got?

(36:59):
So I take the job, right, we don't negotiate my contract.
So I came in on like on a temporary basis,
and I said, I'll do the first two weeks, show
you what I can do, and if you like me,
then we'll get a deal. Struck. If you don't, no
love lost. So my first day, I'm in this beautiful

(37:21):
dressing room and I was like did and they're taking
care of me and I'm getting sag minimum. I'm just
getting minimum waits for this, but I know what the
bigger picture.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So I'm like, dian, it's.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Nice, right, yeah, here, you gotta leave. It's like what, Well,
Chelsea Hanner was the first guest. He was shooting on
her old stage, so that used to be her dressing room.
So I was in her old dress room. So of
course she's coming. They're gonna put her back in old
dress room, right, So I thought, that's fine. Just this episode.
They I'm walking around this dude put me in like

(37:52):
a broke down closet with no mirror, no bathroom, and
I'm going and I'm standing outside and he's like, yeah,
this we're going. And they basically said this we're gonna
be for the rest of the week. And I was like, oh,
and he goes.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
He started walking.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Towards the bathroom. He goes, yeah, in the bathroom is there?
He goes, Garay, what are you doing. I was like,
I'm never gonna go use a public bathroom. The only
two people here every day is me and Steam. I said,
find me a dressing room. And he was like he
was just like, they wasn't trying to help. So I'm
sitting here like, oh my god. I was like, they're
trying to put me in a.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Closet and I'm trying to make you quit.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Well, Black women to the rescue the people. You don't defend.
This is a white This is a white dude walking
me around. One of them black women stepped up.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
She knew who I was.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
She had now Gary come back here. She got me
in a little it one big little dress room, have
my own bathroom, had accounts, tiny TV. I don't need much.
So I was like, all right, I'm good. I do
the show for two weeks, but we're recording on Monday
and Friday. It was three or four days a week,
so I can't go on the road. So I'm losing
to stand up money. I know the bigger picture. They

(39:02):
never have me on stage with them. I'm always behind
the stage. They built like this telephone looking booth thing,
so you heard my voice, ladies and gentlemen, Steve Harvey,
Today's Guests and stuff like that, but you never see me.
So if we did ten episodes, you probably saw me
two two episodes where I actually did a sketch or something.
So I was just like I literally would come out

(39:22):
say give it up for Steve Harvey, and then he
walked on stage. I go back to my dress room.
Next episode, get up for Steve Harvey, walk back. So
after two weeks, I was like yo. My agency of
manager were like yo, we're ready to negotiate, and they go,
we want it for two more weeks. I go, I
can't do another two weeks. You've known about this for
six months. I can't give up to more. And then
you don't hire me or don't give me the money
I want. So I just politely said no, were people

(39:46):
in that Steve was when I told the dressing room story.
Now I'm in a weird spot. I'm cool with Steve.
I'm not gonna go to him where he's got all
this pressure of his own TV show and be like,
I ain't happy with the dressing room, so I don't
know what to do, and I don't. One the only
time I'm really seeing him is right before you go
on stage rum announce in his name. So I can't
be like, hey, what's I knew you got a jay
leno going on, but real quick, my dress room. I

(40:08):
can't do that. So, yeah, it's not I don't know
if it's on Steve or not on Steve. You can
tell you anywhere you want it. But it's not an
attack on him. It was just they tried to put
me the shitting dress room and then I wasn't And
then in the middle of it, one of the days off,
I did hip hop squares and I made like three
times the money on hip hop squares than I did

(40:30):
on Steve. And I go, I'm working for a week
and I'm making more doing hip hop squares for one day.
I was like this, Yeah, this ain't working on So
I don't want to say it's on Steve. You know,
I would say it's on Lori. It was her faults again.
You're not going to defender, You're not going to defender.
You're not in defend Lori Harvey and another black woman.

(40:50):
You don't defend.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
What's in the ward in Ohio? Kat William, Steve Harvey
or Senior Hall Chapelle and not lives there.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
What is it about? What is it about Ohio?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
The women? Their head games crazy so yo top if
you do states like, they're definitely top five the women
in Ohio. That's what it is, and it brings it,
brings it creative Jesus.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I don't know man like and Dave like I've heard
like Dave David's d C and Ohio. I think he
grew up in both. I don't know the whole story.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, but he mainly associate because d C. They got
him to DC. Wanda Sykes Earthquake Chapelle here.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Knows one of Sykes like she's lesbian? All right, Yeah, yeah,
I watched one of her specials back in the day
and that's my girl. Be careful, no, no, I'm just
it's a joke. You're allowed to talk about you And
she said she was talking about it was a clip
I saw you talking about good and I was like,
she had a writer. She didn't write that joke.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Early experimented like me with the biker on ninety six.
You're right, I take it back, one.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
White girl, you whole life.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Look at you. Look at you trying to switch this up.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
You don't defend black women, so you try to turn
them on me. Oh my god, I got a hand job. Okay,
I got a hand job from one. We already know
that story. Do you remember what it was like when
you went on stage for the very first Tame Yeah
comedy store Lajoya, California. I was twenty years old. I

(42:26):
go up and I'm thinking I'm about to be discovered.
I never gonna say I thought this is what I thought.
I'm in the Navy, and I didn't know you could
start stand up whatever city live in. I thought you
had to start in LA. And I thought the whole
state of California was LA. Because I'm looking to David
Lee Roth Whisch, y'all could be California goes. I didn't
know there was a frails No, a beggers Field or Eureka.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, I thought the whole state was LA.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
So first two years I'm in the Navy, I'm station
in Washington, d C. And I used to go. If
I heard a concert was in town, or I would
find out where Commuddes was.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I would go.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I was only seventeen, eighteen years old. I would sit
outside and listen. I'm just listen, and then I could
hear comedians right, or the big shows would come and
I'd just stand outside theater and just listen. I didn't
have any money to really go, and I wasn't old
enough to get in, but I thought, I just gotta
get to La. I gotta get to La. So I
get first hand to get stationed California. I take it.

(43:18):
So I come out here first day. I'm in the
phone book. I'm like looking up comedy clubs. I call
this place called the Comic Castle. Called a dude up.
I said, you gotta open mic? He goes, who's at?
I go, no, you got open mic here? Let me check?
He can put me on hold of the who is that?
Let me check? I called a comic book store. I
thought I called a comedy club. He's looking for a

(43:39):
superhero and the open mic right pause. So so I'm
like he's like, I was like, what are you talking about?
You can't find him? He goes, man what are you
looking for? I go, this is a comedy club. He goes, nah,
it's a comic book store. I go. Now we're having
a full conversation. I go, oh, man, I just moved here.
I'm a comedian. I'm trying to find a comedy club.
And then he goes, so, now he gets on the

(44:01):
phone book on his end, he gives me the number
of the country store, this mythical voice from the comic Castle.
And so I now I call the comedy store. Call
open MIC's Sunday night. I call up there. I get
on the first Sunday I called. I got on and said, yeah,
your only shows it like ten o'clock at night, open Mic.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I go there.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I got dressed. I'm thinking, I'm brushing my teeth extra hard.
I'm like, I'm about to be delirious, about to be
Eddie Murphy, right, you know. I get here, I was like, oh,
it's like ten people in the audience. Nobody's really paying attention.
But there's like twenty comics in the back, all open micers.
I'm like one of the last guys up. Just remember
I'm on stage. I'm nervous. I don't have material to

(44:44):
be moving stick in a movie. I got these five minutes.
I've been working all my whole life the comics, and
this is what comics did. We don't laugh, we go ha,
that's all we do. They're cutting me off. I'm trying
to get a points out there, like ha, I'm freaking
out right. So in the middle of it, I'm twenty
years old. I got beer in his hand and I said, hey,
are you comics? Ind and back I go, keep hackling.

(45:06):
I'm only twenty years old. I said, why don't I
call the cops and shut this mother down? When I
say the lights went off, the mic went off, It's
like somebody grabbed me from the back of my shirt
and they rolled me to the front of the comedy store.
It threw me out and I did like a front
row and I stand up and I start dusting myself
and the one guy was like, don't ever come back,
and I was like, well, can't come back here, but

(45:28):
I can talk to you, right. So it took a
little while for me to get the nerve to go
back up because it didn kind of scarm me. But
then that that was my first time on stage.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Did you always were you? Were you a class cow?
Did you were you disruptive? Did you always know you
wanted to be a comic?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah? I was. I was class calmed, most obnoxious, prom king,
most popular too. You know, my school, I don't have that.
I don't have that story where nobody believed in me.
Nobody believed in me in the trailer where I lived.
My school was where I got to be me because
I couldn't be me at home, right, So that's why
I get back to my school so much. My high

(46:02):
school tell he wont high school and OxT Ohio. I
was like because the people I went to school with, man,
they always said you funny. They always said I could
make it, even though I don't know if they believe
it or not. But it was just like the teachers
liked me so much, but they couldn't ever stay mad
at me, because even though I'd be talking during class

(46:22):
and being smart elec. Sometimes I guess I was endearing,
you know, like I am the black woman unlike yourself.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
You got any what's your crazy stories?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Bro? Like road or growing up road? Oh man?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Anybody rough to stage?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Louisville.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
One time there was a night before Thanksgiving, guy named
Spike Davis had a one nighter in Louisville. I was
living in Cincinnati and I drove down LOWID to this show.
But it was one of them shows where the the
comic club and the clubs in the same room. Okay,
so the show is supposed to start at seven, it
don't start till eight. I'm last, so now I'm not
going up till ten thirty eleven. So now people are

(47:02):
coming in to go to club. And I started bagging
on this dude. Me and him were back and forth,
and it's actually the crowds into it because it was
hard because I was fighting the bar and I said
something again, why don't you come on stage. I don't
know why I kept saying that early in my career.
And I looked up.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I looked over.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I don't know where these two dudes came from. They
had gold fronts, They was sagging. They looked like they
didn't have none to lose. They was on the stage.
I broke the long jump record that night. I jumped
so far off that stage. I went, Oh, I jumped
into the DJ booth like there was people. I jumped
over them land I still got the mic. So now
I'm still.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
They ushered.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
These two dudes out and this one. I knew this
might be a problem. They ushered these two dudes out.
The show's over. They give me my money. They ushered
me out the back door. And this guy's now taking
to a hotel. He's got his gun right next to
the seat, and I'm going we got to there's some
drug boys, man. I said, we're just gonn just go
back to your hotel. Don't come out, I said, hotel.

(48:04):
I said, Now I'm about to get my stuff. A
drum back cincinnaty night. I ain't standing right here, so
I drove back and I was like, yo, that was wild.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
You have a booed food.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Once at La Place called the Rage.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
It was a gay bar.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I didn't know it was gay because I'm trying to
get up in La so I'm just calling places, and
cause I'm living in Santego. Now I'm comfortable enough. I
feel like I got five ten minutes I can do.
La Place called the Rage. On Santa Monica. They said, yeah,
we have a variety show on Tuesdays, So you sign
up at four o'clock. You got to show your face.
Come back at nine we tell you if you made

(48:41):
the show. And then the show starts at ten. I
came and signed up put comedian. I'm looking it's all
like singing and dancing. I was like, so I come
back at nine. They said, yeah, you want the show
you last. I was like okay, So I get there
and then the dudes just start showing up. I was
like a lot of dudes here, like twenty twenty two.
I'm like, dude here and I was like this is

(49:05):
a gabler and like, oh cause I'm by myself right mind.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
So I'm backstage and everybody doing like they're saying, they're
dancing all the other shit. I go, they gonna have
a comedian or what Shannon. I came out there, they
go next we got a comedia and I was like
the crowd it was so I walked out there, I go,
what's up el life. It was like they look at

(49:29):
me like, straight white male, why are you in our space?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Boo yo?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know the apollo right collos where you see the boot,
but whenever somebody gets boot the apollo, you hear a boot. First,
you hear a boot, and then the crowd joins in shame.
I told joke, and they looked at me and I
heard a boot and I said, I'm about to get
a boot at a gate club and I just closed
my eyes. I said, I'm not even here right now.
They it was so brutal. It was like but it

(49:57):
didn't come out like the Apollo. It was like boom boo,
you suck. I mean we suck, but you ain't funny.
A guy came out like they were dragging him on
a chariot, but it was a wagon, but they may
look like a chariot. Two guys with the ving rang
shit from Fault Fiction. They dragged this dude out and

(50:17):
then gong me. I got booed and gong and my
dumba thinks I'm in La, like somebody I should probably leave.
It's gay. I'm in La. I'm still like trying to
to network, right, and this fun guy sees He goes, hey,
you're funny. This is not the right crowd. And then
he had a card. He put a card in my pocket, goes,

(50:38):
but if you need a massage, call me. I was
like this, I'm out. That's what I said. I'm out.
Never come back. That place is still open.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I think BT Comedy you the host, Yeah, what was
that experience like?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
And did other did black Comedia, because that's supposed to
be a safe black space.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Right, and uh, you ain't black?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah really, I just noticed that brown look at you
not defending black women.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
She noticed a white man.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, that was That was interesting because how it all happen.
It was interesting. I'm in the Navy. I'm still active duty.
But I won the Funniest Black Comedian San Diego contest.
There was a radio station called Z ninety and they
said we're looking for the funniest Black comedian of San Diego.
So I called, I pulled overs for a cell phones.
I called, I wrote the number down. Then when I
got home, I called, and I didn't say it was black,

(51:30):
but I didn't say it was white. I did put
some bass in my voice. I was like, hey, you
got the contest. Yeah right, So I get there, I'm white.
I win the contest, and keep mind San Diego. It's
not like Brooklyn or Atlanta with the competition on that stuff.
But first prize was an audition for Comicview. So that

(51:52):
got me the audition and I got on the show,
and back in the day, Comview was a contest. Kept
winning my rounds and then I got the hour special
get that we're special. And all this time, I'm still
in the Navy. So I just drove up to LA
because they filmed the whole season in a week, So
I just drove to LA for a week and came back.
So literally I'm on TV and waving cars on the

(52:14):
base at the same time. So every now and then
the black people pull up, like, who was you gonna
beat this night?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah? Keep going to have a good day, sir.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
So I ended up I got the job, and yeah,
there was obviously some backlash. A lot of a lot
of comics wasn't happy. But I looking back, I get it.
When I'm white, it's a black show. There wasn't that
many black shows, and I was new. I didn't I
didn't have the cachet like. I wasn't like, oh that's Geary.

(52:43):
He's been around for a while. I didn't know a
lot of people. So it was just like and some
More said it best. Like some More was the host
a couple of years before I was. Yes, she I
was talking to her at that time and I remember
she going, she goes Gary, it don't matter who gets
a job, they gonna get hate. She was I was
the first woman, so they was a lot of the
male comics. It was like, you know, now to give

(53:04):
it to a woman, right, she goes, you being white
makes it super easy to hate. So she goes it
don't matter who they and it's true whoever becomes a
host again in the green room, we talked with this
in comics, We're like we always be like, we all
have our choice who they think should have got it,
so it don't matter who the host is. I was
just easy because I was white.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Specials. How difficult is it to get a special?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
H You mean, like I haven't got a Netflix one yet.
I think it's caause I'm white. They're not keeping white
guys specials on Netflix. No, I don't know why. I
think you beat yourself up. Like I saw Godfrey on
here and he was talking about that too, and I
was like, when I saw Godfreend, I go, yeah, yeah,
I think every comic thinks they deserve that Netflix special

(53:49):
and I'm no different. You know, I've been in the trenches,
I've done my work, But I think I just had
a conversation with Bill Burr at an a the Bourbank
Airport years go, and he just goes, you know what,
home be so funny. They can't deny me, and I went,
so all I can control is to be funny. It's
out of my hands if a network wants to do

(54:12):
a specially with me or not. But I mean, hopefully, yeah,
that's the goal to get one one day on Netflix.
But if it never happens, I still I got great life.
I sell a lot of tickets. I'm good, but I
do want it. Don't get twisted. And I put a
lot of work into my specialist. I don't just put
them out there, like, oh I got special let me
just throw it out there.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
I go.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I put a lot of like thought into it, like okay,
I really want to be saying something, especially I got
I got tu in the cam right now we're shopping. Man.
That the first one is very well, you're not gonna
like it, hate my dad, avoid the process server type.
But the second one, I still we got out there too,
like is very military. I purposely did know racial jokes

(54:55):
because people I hear that sometimes like just black white.
I hear people even got the divorce I have now
act now he's divorced. I said, oh, you have no idea?

Speaker 3 (55:05):
What about canceled culture?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Are they words that there's something that because and you know,
we talk about like what they can say back in
the eighties and the seventies, even on tennis sitcoms. I
mean the Jefferson and all the Archie Bunker, all in
the I think, all the family. Yeah, but you can't
talk like that. Now, how do you how do you
navigate that gear?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Well, I'm to say I can't say the N word.
That's when you're getting that. I go, but yeah, I
can't say that. But I think live comedy shows, you're fine.
And that's why we don't want your cell phones out right,
because I think people go to shows with a level
of expectation and if you don't meet that expectation, they're disappointed. Right,
But some people want to hear the uncomfortable. Yeah, you know,

(55:50):
and I'm like that, I think you know. But that's
the thing, like you got to ask yourself, is it
worth it for me to stand on my two feet
and say I'm gonna do this joke. I don't care,
I'll say what I want. Is it worth it if
you get the backlash? Because it is gonna come? And
are you have you created a strong enough fan base

(56:10):
that cancel culture can't mess with you because there are
people like Chappelle. He can't be canceled, Ricky Gervais, he
cannot be canceled. Andrew Schultz cannot be canceled. I would
think Shane Gillis right now, he can. A cat can't
be canceled. Kevin can. Kevin's very corporate. Kevin has to
be careful what he says, you know what I mean.

(56:31):
So that's what I'm saying. Like someone like Kevin Chappelle,
they don't have they don't have these corporate, corporate deals.
Kevin's got to be careful, and I'm sure there's some
things he wants to say, but he ain't trying to
mess up that check. Just like you. You don't defend
black women, you know what I mean. I'm sure like
wranglers about to call you John Deere, I got there.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
You go. See, I should have never opened that that
care of word because I know doubt I think you
ought to go on a uh that show next week?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Who show?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I ain't telling you, uh how this comedy changed from
when you first got in to what we see right now.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
We we were at the mercy. We needed somebody to
put us on. So now, like I said, you can
control your own you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
I gotta.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I got a guy that goes enroll me right now
called the Mailman. He's a TikTok guy and he's not
He didn't start at the stand up. He started a
social media guy. But he wants to be a stand up.
So I tell he's from Cincinnati, you know. I like
the hometown is like always good. So I bring on
the road now so we can work his act out.
But there's no gatekeepers with him, so to speak, So

(57:52):
he couldn't. He could have never did something like that
years ago. And now, like, you don't need somebody's permission
to put a joke out. Man. I thought about that too.
I was like, man, you really we all know those
funny guys that never popped because for whatever reason, they
the powers that be didn't put them on. But you know,

(58:15):
so now you don't. You can't blame nobody else if
you don't have a Netflix special, if you don't quote
unquote get your turn. Why isn't Hollywood ever taken a
chance on me? Take a chance on yourself.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
You look at the comedians, So where are you with
these comedians? Now?

Speaker 1 (58:27):
A lot there are a lot of comedian of us
on social media, they do their thing on ig and
things like that.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
And I was reading somebody with I forget who it was.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
It says, Yeah, doing a skit for like five minutes
is entirely different than writing an entire safe for thirty
forty five an hour.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Right, Yeah, facts, it's a different muscle. It's a different muscle.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Like it's it's like, yeah, to hit that, as Kat said,
to do it over and over and over and over
and over.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I don't look at it like an art because to me,
it comes so easy. So when people like how you
do that?

Speaker 3 (59:00):
How you not do it?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
When people say I'm scared of public speaking, I go
for what that's a Catholic audience, you know what I mean.
So it's a different muscle. I'm not never gonna knock
somebody for like building a fan base and making money
on the road, because I've learned there's enough for all
of us, and I'd rather be cool with people and
hopefully they bring me into a sketch or they have
a show and they think of me. You know what

(59:22):
I mean? You hat DESI banks on, Yes, we're doing
real estate together.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You may if I have went like that. Heck, he
ain't funny do this? Now we got this other. We
got this guy, Geen Johnson. He's a builder in Atlanta.
I bought a house I wanted to flip it. I
got hold of him. He tell me no. I called DESI,
so I got this flip house being. I saw you've
been flipping houses. I was like, who's your guy? He

(59:49):
gave me this guy, Geene Johnson his name I called him.
He goes, y'all, help you flip it? And then now
he brings us in. He goes, what you guys ever
thought about doing something together? Like two comedians doing flip
houses or airbnbs? And we and we're gonna film it.
We don't know if anything comes of it, but you
might if I just went off on Dezzy, right, he
defends black women. He does me too.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, hold up, is this true? You had a script?
Script joint's trouble for not tippy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
How you be getting this information?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
People?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
That was the streets talking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, So how you gonna go to the club and
look at cheeks and not plaid?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I didn't know I did. I was eighteen. I'm living
in d C. It was middle of the day somebody said,
you know you can see chitties. We got a spy,
you can see titty that's the real titties. You know.
I'm sheltered, man. I didn't hear puberty till late. I
went to school with mostly white women, so I was
a virgin. I was nineteen. So I get to DC,

(01:00:47):
Chocolate City. I said, where do you see titties? So
they're like yoka. I took another guy's I d another
military guy and there was this one strip club in DC,
like if you were military, they didn't really look and slide.
So I got another guy that did. They let me in.
I sit down. I'm like the only dude in there. Right.
The waitress keeps coming over like the only white dude. Yeah,

(01:01:07):
there was like nobody in this club.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
There was like eleven am.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I got there early, so there's like one stripper on
one waitress and the strippers really trying to dance for
me hard because nobody el's there. And I'm literally like this,
I'm right next to the stage, right, the water comes in,
you know, drink. I'm good. I'm good one. I'm scared
of you guys from my d again, I said, I'm
good so then the stripper, she's really going to town.
I'm not stripping, I'm not tipping. I'm just looking. It's

(01:01:34):
like an hour I bought no drinks. I haven't tipped.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
You ain't tipping the sippy. You got out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Literally, the waitress like this, she goes you drink. I said, no,
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
She goes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
She just come looking free. I was like this, I'm out.
I just got. I was like, she snapped, t me too,
just come looking free. I was like this, actually I did.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
That's I came. You are? Are you a strip club connoisseur?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
No, I go, but I ain't a strike co conosour.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
What's the best one you've been in?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Mmm?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
No Shades, Oa your real Jamaica. That was the wildest
night I've ever seen that strip club in my whole life. Really,
I did a bit on it one of my specially
about ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
You said your reals.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, so it's called Shades. It's still there. It recently
when viral they have a little person that comes out. Dude,
he'd be knocked him down. He's slanging. He's slanging like
a normal right below his knee type of stuff. Literally,
So I went there. I went there with my boys,

(01:02:49):
two white dudes, three white dudes, going to the strip
cult in Jamaica. What could go wrong? Right? And it's
in the hills, right, So what happened? So Tom Joners
had the Tom Joiner Cruise. I think he still does
it right. But when you were a performer, they fly
you in, you mean you only take the cruise half
the time, half to so it's seven days. You know

(01:03:09):
you're on for three days, right. So we were picking
it up in Jamaica. So I flew in the night before.
I got real cool with the locals. No, the guys
at the resort that work there, the bartender, if irebody
knew me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
So I got my two buddies, two white dudes. Right
when I get there. I got there like an hour
after them. He's making out with some chicken a pool.
I was like, dang, Brian, ain't west no time. Right.
We go to dinner. He's like, he's telling me, yeah,
this girl man, I got to meet her at the
club on the on the resort. You know, he goes,
he think it's gonna pop off. We eat dinner, we

(01:03:44):
go to club. She making out with a different dude,
on the dance floor. Now he's pissed. He goes, you
know what, Yeah, she's doing what dudes do, right. I
was giving her all the respect in the world. And
then so now he's trying to leave. He said, melmny,
I'm going going out tonight. I said, you can't leave
the resort, bro, And now one of the little little

(01:04:07):
bartender videos, he goes, mister Gary, he cannot leave the resort.
It's not safe to go by himself. My buddy's so
lit and so mad. We can't stop them, right, So
he goes the dudees like, dude, I get off at eleven.
I'll take you guys out right. That's probably one of
the smartest movie there. We getting this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
He picks us up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
We got to meet him at the end of the resort,
which is like a mile walk by the way to
the road. He picks us up in this little beat
a vehicle. Now he got three of us buddies in
the car, so there's literally like seven of us in
this tiny car.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
We go up this hill.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I'm like, I don't know about this. Shane's is different, man.
You walk up it's like a steel door and they
slide it open and then you walk down some stairs
we got and this just opened up. You ever seen
dust till dawn?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Yeah, it was like that. You walk in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I was like, whoa, it's a lot. These strippers saw
these three white dudes walk in. We were fresh meat.
They started attacking, right. I told my boys I didn't drink.
I said, give me all your money here and put
in this pocket, I go, so nobody can rip us
off or steal from us. Right. So we're sitting there,
you know, watching Lapdan and stuff. All of a sudden,

(01:05:14):
everything changed. Whist was blowing. This little person came out
of the back. I said, what's he about to do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
He started laying a pipe on these strippers right in
front of us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
It's on the internet now. It got posted like a
couple of years ago there to look at this, like
on World Star Hip Hop. Right, And I was like,
I told everybody was true. I told him it was
true because nobody believe me. He I mean, he's knocking
them down one after the other. One girl spun him.
I was like, yo, like he's inside her. He spun

(01:05:48):
Come on on, strike me down right now. If I'm
lying spun him. I was like, Yo, this is another level.
So then then my boys, like the dude the wild Ones,
He's like, yo, man, give me a hundred dollars, I said,
for what. He goes there was like a CD hotel
next to Shades. He goes, the girl's gonna take me
over there. I don't know if the girl was seventy

(01:06:09):
and room was thirty or the rumors thirty and the
girl was seventy. So I said, yo, no, no, no,
I said. The kid that tell to me you at
the resort, you're not going over there. And then the
local guy that would drive me around, he goes, don't
don't let him go. They're gonna shake him down. They said,
my Jamaican accent is terrible, by the way. So he
was like, they're gonna shake him down. Either he's gonna

(01:06:29):
go over there, she's gonna milk him for more money,
or he's getting set up and they're gonna rob him. Right,
So I told him no. So now he's mad at me,
cuss me out, calls me a block blocking bro. You're
blocking some white blocking bro. You don't the fen black women.
So we're waiting now. The guy that drove us here,

(01:06:52):
he had to park down the hill you gotta walk
up this hill and get the shades. He parked upon
my hill. So now we're waiting on him, and it's
like a twenty minute wait, and I see this dude
scold me out. All he goes. He's looking at me,
looking at me. He goes, hey, money man, money man,
buy me and my friends some beers. And I go,
I ain't got no money.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
They said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I pointed the club ago all the girls took my money. Goes, nah,
you the money man, buy me and my friends some beers.
It's getting scary now, and I'm going, oh, I'm starting
to sweat. Just then the dude pulled up with this car.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Patwal? Is that Jamaican patwa? They start speaking up Patwash.
They looked at me, goes, okay, you got your n word,
I got mine. We're good. Let me go. When I say,
I said, oh, in my pocket. We got back to
the resort. I gave it to the dude. The driver.
I said, take it. I swear I do start crying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
He said, you don't have to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I go, dude, you saved this tonight. Take it. It
might have been like five hundred bucks. I was like, dude,
I don't want to take it. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
We had a great night.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I got a story. I'm gonna put it in my special.
I'm not many money. I'm going on shannonh Yeah about it,
you know the podcast Women. Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
We'll get you out here. A little bit of your upbringing.
I grew up in a trailer park, I'm correct, yep.
How many bedrooms?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Three? Three bedrooms? Three kids and seven seven kids, no, no,
five five?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
My twins was from my dad. So we had Michelle, Dallas, Kyle, Ashley,
me five five. Yeah, Michelle was in and out. Michelle
was my step sister. She was older, and the parents
three bedrooms. Uh huh, I have my own because yeah,
I was way older too. It was like it was
like a nine year difference, and then the other the

(01:08:42):
other three was in one and then my mom and stepdad.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
Was your upbringing like like eminem character eight mile.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Probably worse, probably worse. My stepdad is literally one of
the worst human beings on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
But y'all did have indoor indoor plumbing and running ward
and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
But in the Winner, I want to have to climb
under there. They got this thing called skirty goes around
the bottom of the trailer stops the wind and everything.
You gotta crawlnder there and you gotta ductate the pipes. Yeah,
and then you always got to keep the water running
a little bit, it doesn't freeze. Yeah, so we had Yeah,
we had running water.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
How did How did it feel? I mean, to be
embraced like you are by black gortry? What's the best?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I wish everybody had that feeling, you know what I mean?
It's weird at the airport because then I'll get stopped
and black people start freaking out, and white people like,
who's you played for?

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Why don't we know him?

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
So? What made you join the military to get out
of the trailer park? Get away from that dude? Instead?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Dad, why the Navy? Why not the Army or the Marines?
Air Force?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
My buddy of mine woke me up. Was my senior year.
I didn't take the Act, didn't take the SAT nobody
went to Cosmon family. I didn't know yet do stuff
like that. He woke me up. It was a Saturday
morning and he goes, Garrett, come on, come on, come on,
And his dad was in a car waiting up front.
I'm like, I'm looking at him like, what, Michael's come
on and he's in my ear. He's in my room.
I don't know how I think my mom let him

(01:10:07):
in and she was like, you gotta get out of here.
What do you mean? He goes, can be stuck here
your whole life. So he took me down to the
recruit and says he'd already joined the Navy. So the Navy,
Marine's an Army was all in the same building. I
don't know where Coastcard Air Force was. So I met
with all three that day and Marine said, we're the
first one's in. I'm out. I don't want to be
first one. I'll be second and third. The army guy

(01:10:30):
was lying because he knew I wrestled in high school
and he was like, yo, you're a wrestler. He goes,
you could you join the army? You could wrestle. I said,
I'm three and thirty. Bro. Three times I lost thirty.
I'd beat the same guy three times. Nathan eb Edgwood
High School. Still know his name. I said, I've been
pinned twenty nine times. I go, there's not a high

(01:10:51):
school gymnasium in Cincinnati, Ohio. You showed me the ceiling.
I'll tell your freaking high school it is. I saw
him all shit, you know what I mean. So the
navy guy was just cool. He's like, oh, we can
get you. When I was like, all right, I'll join
the navy. And my stepdad always told.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Me he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
He used to call me a freeloader. I'm in high school.
He used to be like, you gotta stop freeloading off
your mom. Man, you gotta get a job. He might.
I don't have a car, we don't have any money.
He's not working right. And he always told me, like
I got you, you have to be out of the
house by the time you're eighteen. I said, where am
I go? I don't care. You gotta be gone. So him,
I left when I was seventeen, beat him to the punch. Wow, yep,

(01:11:26):
that was on purpose. I said, when can I leave?
They said eighteen? I was like joy twenty six. They said,
you lead Jay twenty third. I said, do it the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Best decision of your life. But how different?

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
How different would your Gary Oyen's life have been had
he not joined the military and got out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
When he did, I'd be fat, my wife would be fat,
and I'd have a fridge fow a mountain dew in Dorito's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
But he wouldn't be a sister.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Probably not her, for I'd be looking at at all
the black girls on TV like that's the age. I
definite would have been a sister.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Stop making stuff back yere, I appreciate it. Appreciate Jay always,
Ladies and gentlemen all my.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back the price.
Wanta slice? Got to brow the dice, the squad all
my life. I've been grinding all my life. Look all
my life and grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back
the price. Want a slice? Got to brow the dice,
the squad all my life.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
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