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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. I
heard you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I read what your wife said, she don't want you
under two twenty say she married, she married, she married
a bear, not a buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Well I can't quota on that, but she says she
don't want you, she don't want me.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Too small, she is hit.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
But at one point in time, you looked like you
were smaller than that. I mean, man, you look you
look really small. You like you about one ninety five.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And I got I think the smalls I got down to.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It was like I did get down to night about
two seventy, two seventy, I got close to sixty. I
got down because I was like, I'm fluctuating between two
ninety eight right now, you.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Know, And it's cool because that's that's you know, I
look good at I mean from from five to fifty
to to under three yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
But but when I was wearing fave fifty, I can
binge four fifty.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was strong as shit.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But but but Lavelle, how did you get I mean,
how were you able to move around at I mean
normally people that way?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That buck I.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Must have been from Georgia, because you know, me and
West boys.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I mean, did you know you were that big? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
When I walk past the mirror and motherfuckers be looking
at you, you know you know you that big?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
When kids keep looking at you, they try not to
look at you. They look at you like that what
you looking at them? Some kids don't give a fuck. Mama.
What's that?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
You know you've been when the lady come and grab
a kid, come here, come here before he bite you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What the fuck? I'm not gonna bite your child?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But no, Yeah, I always knew uh I was being
because people, let you know, you ain't come never.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All you got to do. You know how fast you
is go to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You know, before I can even get the door, I
ain't even I made an appointment on the phone.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, I didn't know. You're gonna have to cut back.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Hold on, man, you don't even know what the fuck
I looked like.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I can tell your boys that you have his heir.
But yeah, I always knew I would be. I mean,
you know, but I wore, I moved, I wored well, dude,
I mean you know, I never really thought My brother
said this all the time. He got a small man mentality.
He don't think he be moving. He light on his feet.
(02:14):
You can't hear that nigga walk in. That nigga sneak
up on the sandwich. You don't even know he there.
He like you real quiet, man. I mean, you know,
cause it's a lot of big brother you've been in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
And what was his name, Eric richisonid what's his name?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Eric rich That big old lineman that ran down, he
ran down the wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Remember that, oh you talking about Larry Allen ran down
to Larry Allen did it? And it was another cat too.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I remember that big old line and that nigga wait
byt be four hundred pounds he ran that little backing
down on that interception. I mean he I mean it's
your frame of mind, because you know when you some
big brother. You see big brothers out there, them two
fat twins, the Mexican twins that could dance. I mean,
it ain't never. If you hold yourself back, that's when
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you become heavy.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I don't I don't really think it just stop people
doing anything you want to.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
No, I mean, because you like you have a bad question.
I mean, it's the elephant in the room. But you know,
I think I carried myself, you know, and my mind
framed it. Man, I'm a bad nigga, you know. Yeah,
And on stage I really carried it. Like on stage
I might come into this little.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
World of sympathy and like, well have to repeat this,
but you ain't show it.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
No, no, no, you would never see it. I'm you know,
I you know I always have on my fighting face.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
When your wife recorded you snoring and you heard it,
what you're like, man, I gotta do Somethingody What that was?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Was that a part of the that she recovered me snoring?
But she kept waking me the fuck up? That's what
That's what you know? And I mean you know I didn't.
You didn't be packed now.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Hell no, I loved waiting. I don't know as much
as no more. Okay, I don't know as much and
no more. That's why I lost, took some of the
weight off house. No, you know you still had your moments.
But you know I don't snow it like I used to,
you know. I mean you know I think I snow
when I wear it. If you eat late right and
some of them you eat that, your lad will snow,
you know, because your body trying to break.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Ship down let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I had a seatpath, but it was like sleeping in
the hurricane. That ship wasn't cool.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was loud. My son was a little kid. He
thought I was an astronaut.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
He said, I want to go to space too. I said,
take this in your room. That nigga slept all night.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I about get me one of them. Do they work?
But the seatpath?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yell no, I don't like. I hate that ship. Too
much wind blowing on me. I'm not a I don't
like that blowing in my face.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm about to get me one dog. But you have
to sleep on your back. I sleep on my back.
I said, I can't sleep on my back. You can't.
I can't. Yo, he likes to feel some honey. No,
I like to. I have to sleep on my side.
Don't you just with the lady on sleeping? No, no, no,
I did to sleep on my side. You sleep on
your slab. I do well. I sleep on my side.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
But I had to sleep on my rights because I
see by my I see, yeah. I sleep on my
left side and my right side always.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Have night farts. Love have mercy. You know I'm sleep
I wouldn't nobody, Yes, you do you do, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But I bet mynd fars and woke me up. But
but but I don't eat late. I don't eat after
like seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You know, man, night farts come when they want to.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Sometimes farts just come out because but I it's bored inside.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm nutritious. What you what you think is healthy? Did
you eat? I got seen what you eat? So let
me see. I eat baked chicken, I eat chicken. I
eat turkey. I eat ground beef. First of all, you
are not one vegetable.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But I got ruffed. I'm to take you by the ruffian.
I take you by the ruffies. I eat broccoli, I
eat sweet potatoes. I eat Brussels spruce. I ain't eat
green beans. I eat salad, mostly all with kale.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But do you eat mostly what you eat? Most chicken?
But I get ruffish to make sure I get my
plenty of roughies. Yeah you do?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You eat a whole salad without Have you ever eat
salad for a meal?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, he'll no, he ain't never a meal.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Maybe like it's like it maybe a little bit lice,
a slice of chicken, and then it's just yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I try to get but I see I got to
eat a X A mind. I'm trying to eat like
every meal, I'm trying to eat like and I try
to eat like five six times a day. I'm trying
to get somewhere between five and six on the calibers meal.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh yeah, okay, well, I mean you know that's cool,
five six hundred calories a meal.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, so you say about twenty five.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'm trying to get like three thousand and three thirty
five hundreds and then you work out.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, how about you work out today? About forty five minutes?
She lived here?
Speaker 4 (06:36):
You lift a car like for forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, I don't lift no cars, don't. I don't. I
don't live like I used to because I don't need
to be that big anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, what you what you? What you? What you?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
What's your curl? What you with your curl?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't do no curls cause I'm trying. You know,
I don't need to, you know, she she don't need
to be about one hundred and twenty five pounds to
eat the curler. You don't see you? Did you do
the kettlebelly? I used to do kettlebell?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah? The bill, Yeah, he's dumb man. Yeah, he gonna do.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, Ben, I haven't done. I haven't done a barbell
bench in a long time. I kind of tweaked my pick,
but I think I want to get back because I
don't feel I don't my muscles don't feel the same
texture as what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
To talk to you. I'll be fifty six in June. Okay, yeah,
you got me by I'll be fifty sixth November.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So yeah, when you get to a certain age, it's like, man,
you start feeling that you're grown. Because I used to
put that boom boom. I put that weight up like
it ain't nothing. I'm still strong, right, But for putting
the weight up, it I had to, you know, have
to figure it out. Because one day I was in
the gym with my brother and he had to help
get this ship off. Was like, oh my god, I'm
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a grown man.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But I'm looking at you. You said you had the
surgery because of your kids. You didn't want to be
a quote dad beat dad in real life. You mentioned
earlier that you know, you start having kids and like, man,
I want to play with my kids.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I want to be here for them.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I want to see my grandkids was that probably one
of the main determining factors of why you did what you.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Did with the part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But also I said, I loved me, so why don't
I treat me a little better? You know what I'm saying,
you know, because you know, I think Lavelle is a
good dude, you know, and people come around me, the
energy that they get from me is always all, oh, man,
that's my man veil. You know, if you hate on me,
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it's just because you hate yourself, right, And I try
to you know. But but I loved me, so I said, man,
you know, I want to do something solid for myself
because you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, you have you ever had.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Something you had you kept living with and you wanted
to get out of it for a while, you say, man,
what can I.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Do to get out of it?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
That's that's how the weight was, you know, just kind
of trim it down.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I didn't want to be skinny and nothing like that.
Just feel healthy. Yeah, Like I get on the plane.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I can sit in the seat, put the seat better on,
no problem, like I do now.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Did a video on Southwest when I was able to
do that again, and I said, I said, a few
years ago and keep me off playing with two of you,
and now I can put to sea beetter and things
like that, you know, just feeling like sitting in the
booth at a restaurant and like sometimes I had to
watch what I hate at the restaurant because I sit.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
In that booth.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I could get in, but I might not get it out,
especially the ones that don't move right, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
So, you know, and then like part about being a
dead beet dad.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
See the guy I was talking about my dad, the
dude who I thought was my father, come of found out.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
We had a big argument. He wrote me a letter
told me that he really was my daddy.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So he did so he told you that an argument, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You know, because he really wasn't in our life.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We had just got back in touch with each other
and me and my sister. Then we all started celebrating
us being together. But then he started acting funny. Could
to find out, you know, he was wound up. One
of his things was he was a homosexual.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You know, he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He was a basssed with my mom, but he knew,
he always knew he was gay, right, And when we
got back in his life. We found that he had
married a man and all this shit. And but you know,
I ain't give a fuck about that, I said, man,
my dad around. I just didn't know if the gay
part was hereditary. I said, man, I gotta get in
shape because you know, her gay dudes are really in
good shape, you know, you know, and if I want
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to be in the gay world, I don't want to
get turned down by him as much as I got
turned down by women.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
But you know, But.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But the thing about it was, you know, I embraced that.
But then he stopped coming around. You know, I had
to step in and be the man in my house.
You know, I paid for both my sister's wedding, I
paid for my mom stick and wedding. I did all
this stuff to you know, become the man and be
there for my sister, protect him and I and I.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Took his job.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, this just pissed me off because you know,
you know, like, but then he stopped coming around. We
would go down to Florida where he lived, and he
would he wouldn't come come come around no more. I
guess he got a new person or whatever. I don't
know what happened, but I wrote him a text message.
I said, man, we just got back in each other's life,
and now you want to act fucking funny. And I, man,
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you never was around. I mean, when we come down
to your city, you could at least come down, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And I just went off.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And then he said, well, let me share someone with
your ass, and he you know, and he sent me
this whole certified letter telling me that my mama was
pregnant before before when he went off to college and
came back, she was pregnant and he was still a virgin,
so he don't know how she got pregnant, exactly conception.
And I said, you know, damn no, you're trying to
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call my mama a whole and he.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Said, I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I ain't calling her whole, but I know she knows
some people, you know, so so uh so the Lord
st loans short of it. I said, well we need
to prove it. You know, I'm gonna fly down there.
We're gonna go to go to a bud. But he
was like, no, this nigga big.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
He won with my ass.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't want to see him in a person because
I wanted to go down like that, because he you know,
we did a swab, you know, and we got the
paternity tests back, and it was crazy. It was like
a movie. I'm trying to write the story now. And
then you know, I was sitting there and I get
the results. When I'm at the AE hot with my mom,
She's sitting right across me, and I had the phone
on speaking. I had to turn it off off speaking
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because the lady was the paternity test. I ain't want
my mom to hear this ship. So I said, yeah, gone,
tell me, tell me what I need to know. And
she's gonna say, well, when it comes down to there,
it was just like the more report.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Might say, yeah, she said, she said, he said for
deug for your father, that you talk to your father
zero zero zero zeros heros zeros heros zers zeros zero
point one. Then he ain't my dad.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And I was like, holy shit, And I'm looking at
my mom like what the fuck why you didn't tell me?
And I and then I finally confronted, confronted her, you know,
and women always want to cry and some shit's the situation.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like he's lying. I said, he lying. I got this
shit right here. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I wasn't mad at her, I was own up to it.
I wasn't gonna I love my mama, she ben, she
was there for.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Me from the get go. No matter what, She's still
your mom, She mama, You know it ain't.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
She thought it was gonna change our relationship, which I
don't think it did. But I mean, but when I
got a wife, of course it was gonna change something,
some kind of substance. But I just couldn't believe that
she wasn't trying to own up to her. Then she
finally owned up to her and took her forever to
ask me who my father was, and I gave She
gave me a little bit of information and I took it.
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And I had a friend who my my jiu jitsu professor.
He was a private ay at one time. He took
that little information that this lady found because I was
on a podcast. She went on truth find and found
all this stuff. So I sent it to him. He
went and found out where he lived in everything, and
he lawed me hold he was still living in Saint
Louis all the time, all the time I was there,
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he was in Saint Louis. He had three other He
had three other year had a Chinese daughter, half daughter.
He had two other sons and live right around the
corner from me. At one time, and I said, this
nigga be in the Saint Loi all the time. He
is the grand champion of Hide and go Seek, I said,
because I never saw him. But it was so weird,
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you know that when I met him and I wrote
him a letter and told him who I was, and
I said, I don't want nothing from me. I said,
I'm a child of God, and I thank God that
I found out.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Who he is.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
He put the glue. He glued my life together. And
I just want to say, hey, man, if you ever
wanted me to let me know this man I gave
him another This man called me and he was so
excited to find out who I was and find out.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That he was my father.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And he didn't know who I was as an entertainer
at that time. He just found just found that out later.
But he was so he was so wonderful, giving me
so many inspiring uh words and.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Everything, just like and know.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But he wasn't the greatest guy because my other brothers
didn't like him because he wasn't in their life and all.
But for some reason, he got older and he couldn't
try to change his life because he was a rolling
stone and God gave him a stroke so he can
stay around so I can get to know him. It
was crazy. He got a stroke right like three days
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after we talked. He got a stroke, so he couldn't
even tain't a little so I can meet him.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Because if you'd have never had that stroke, that motherfuck
would have left, you know, never got to meet him.
Bok was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Man. We see each other and he's he's always cool,
and you know, and I be in in his life,
you know, just talking to him everyone I call him, see.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
How you doing? And he lived ahead of a life.
He was us. He used to be a He was
a chief of police in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
He also was heading security for Kamala Harris at one
time and everything. So it's it's you know, that's but
but when I went off through that, I would never
let my.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Child go through that with me. He gonna know who
his dad. If I ain't ship, he gonna he gonna say,
but that ain't shit. But I know where he is.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You on the couch in the kitchen right, the role
of breaking bad?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
How did you lay in that role? It was. It
was crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You know, I don't know, like, when you followed your
dream like football, what was your expect stations up?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What was your expectation me and level.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'll be honest, the only thing I ever wanted to do,
It's the only thing that I ever ever wanted to
do in life was to play professional football and get
my family and my grandmother mainly out of the environment
that we grew up in.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That was a total bigeon. I don't I don't multitask
very well. What I do well, I'm great at but
I don't do a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So I had a tonal focus.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Nigga, you do you do multitask because I'm gonna tell
you why.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think you about it.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Because you I used to see you talk right on
shows and stuff, and I was like that Nigga would
be this spending spit me.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I was that nigga drowning niggas in that interview.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But what powerful about it was you practice. You you focus,
and the person that go through something like that, you
really you know, that's what I do. I'm not the
smartest man in the world, but I focus in on
what I want and that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And that's and I like, when before we even did,
did I see.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You prior you were doing that? And I was like,
and I know it's because you's that and you got
them new teeth. I got them fancy tee. It's already
talking to them damn teeth. I won't give me some
of damn teeth. Nigga, I'm down. I gotta use my
my my bitters for you us. So I need, I need,
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I need to give my ship together. But but on
that aspect of that, you are multitizing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You can't say that that ain't you.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
We we all are black men are that because we
have to because not to say.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
No other race does that.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But I'm just saying when you are here, we.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
We we you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You're on a teetering tightrope as a black man being
in the media because social need to became the.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Information railroad of everything.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's what our celebrities come to, is what our presidents
and politicians come on the podcast or that they come
on anything else now. So and you have to alwo
edify your words, yes, instead of you can't always.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You want really sation ship, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So you're you're you're doing something that's very tough, and
you know, because like if I got I'm doing the podcast,
I'm gonna do shit that I like, like fishing and stuff.
I ain't gonna talk about controversial ship because I don't
want to be on that thing. Because why people say, man,
you need you know, y'all need to stand up for
black people, blah blah blah, station the fuck up because
not of time I said, you can stand up for
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your people.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And I love my black people like like no other brothers.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But when you stand up for somebody, most of the
time you stand alone and ain't nobody there to take
you and take you on. They don't even remember what
you did. They brag on Martin Luther King that he
got killed. Come on, man, man, when we gonna get
it together for each other? Why I gotta always be
Why can't be my media and have fun meeting great
guests that I respect and revere and give them a
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platform to talk to.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Why I gotta step up and beat and be the
voice of the people. I'm not gonna do it. I
don't care. I mean, I love y'all, but man, y'all
gonna have to come with me every time I do something.
Y'all gotta do it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I don't get we get locked up, We get locked up.
I ain't you know, snitch on me. I want snitch
on you. Unless you ain't around, then them snitch on
your ad. But but but on that aspect of breaking bad,
every opportunity I would get, because I'm gonna tell you something.
When you're talking about how you practice, I come to
old school where you read, you read, and you understand stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I w was never I never was a dummy, but
I learned different and I learned and.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I found my strengths off of normal stuff that I
didn't think was something I want to do. But I
started reading scripts because I used to go and do
an audition and I would read the script like I
think it's written, and I look like I can't talk.
I look like because I mean, I go through the
same thing. People hear my voice, how rasby it is
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and deep it is. I hear people always say I
can't understand everything he sayd But he's funny, you know,
I mean, like why you can't understand what everything I say?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm talking right now? You understand.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But people say that because it's hard. It's just like
music when you when you're in the rhythm. Everybody don't
get They get the beat, but they don't get the song,
you understand.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So when I landed, I got to do these auditions.
I kept on. I kept I got jaded.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I didn't want to I didn't want to do no
more auditions, man, because I said, Man, maybe acting ain't
for me, right, you know what I'm saying, Because.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
They wasn't turned down. Man, It's like and and our
man getting turned down if I win one.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
But I wasn't Winningnyne. I wouldn't getting nothing commercially. I
went up for a Burger Werson. I said, who else
could do it? Burger calls, junior commercials, look me, they
put parents, He'll need a damn calls junior superstar.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I eat the superstar. Why I ain't doing the superstar conversion?
I get what. I got one in the call right now, right,
But they wouldn't give me the commercial.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
So when I got called for that, I got a
new manager in the agency and they say, hey, thevil
they got an audition. I had just got out the road.
You know, comics comics job. Man, we travel, we be
on a road, you know pretty much.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
What do you do what do you do one hundred
shows a year? Ship? I right, do one hundred and
fifty what so that mean you only there's only fifty
two weeks in the year, and so that means you
do it.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
If we do three shows on Friday, three sholds on Saturday,
you gotta count all them damn shows you do three?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah? When they sell it? When level hot, he hot baby, yeah,
I mean shit.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Man say sometimes for yeah, sometimes four it is because
I do two on Thursday and then it be three
on Friday, and Matt and they show a regular show,
then we do the third show and then we do
the late.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Show, and then they do three shows on Sunday. So
you gotta count. You gotta add that shit out. So
you might be doing you might be doing two hundred
shows pretty much pretty much. I'm out there getting it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I got my.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Private school to pay for it, and a beautiful wife
to keep having, right, and a lifestyle main lifestyle to maintain.
And the thing about it is yes, yes, And so
when you get done with that, you come home, dude.
I mean, when I was living out here, that's why
I moved to Texas because when I used to come
out fly from Let's say I fly from Birmingham, Alabama,
gotta do a connection and fly six hours back across
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the country, all the way back to La get off
the plane, my wife, come pick up. Riding in traffic
for three hours, gotta get something to eat. I laid
out for a little bit, had to probably take juniors. Dude,
go take care of stuff, and next day grows whatever
the ship by look up, it's Thursday and.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Playing again. So it's kind of like it was.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It was one of them things, but I had to
do it. I understood what I was doing. It became
a procedure. But then when I got that audition, they
called me to come in. Now, I'm saying, man, can't
they just postpone it to it tomorrow? I said, well, man,
you gotta go in for this.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Man. It's a good role. Man, we got it. They
can't do tomorrow. Say shit, I get there.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
It's there's three brothers sitting there, and I was going
for loosis the tow truck drive and I said, you know,
But I got in there, and you know, and it
was one of them things, because I said, I always
want to do an audition, like when they.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
See me where you've been all my life, you know
what I'm saying. That's why I.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Always see them cartoon them TV shows like that, because
they said that's However's Presley got recognized.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
He was at a gas station and he would feel
up there, Oh boy, you got a good boss on.
When you get in the car, We're going to go
to Hollywood, you know. So I always started making it
like that.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
So when I went in there for Lucia the Truck Driver,
I did roll good and everything, and the guy said, hey,
you think you mine reading another script?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And I was like, okay, he gave you the script.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
He had one line on it, one freaking line he said.
He said, weird clothes. He said can He said in
the camera weird clothes, weird clothes. And the dude looked
at me and said, can you start Wednesday? I said,
what the fuck are you talking about? Can I start
winning for the Truck Drive? He said, no, for the
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security Guard and I said, it's.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
A kiddy guy. I got to play a security guard, not.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Knowing that this security guy was a prolific character in
this show, and I got on probably one of the
best dramas ever to be written.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
To me.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I know, they say the sopranos.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But Breaking Bad is a vehicle entity in his own
self and it parlaid in the Better Call sau and
the crazy thing about Better Call Sauce.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
What inspired me, see because like you you know, like
I said, being a fighter dude.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You know, Breaking Bad was so big, But then the
dude hit me up on Facebook talking about, Hey, man,
you was great and Breaking Bad like that. He said,
But I'm gonna play when they come out with the
spin off on Better Call Sauw, I'm gonna play you.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Better Shape.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I'ma I'm gonna play Better Shape when you're the younger
he and I said, bullshit, I'm gonna lose the weight
so I can play. He said, Man, ain't no way
you're gonna be able to lose that much wait to
play that role.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And that's right way. He said.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I was smaller, nigga, I had that weight lost surgery. Brother,
I slimmed the fuck down and I got lost so
much damn weight that they literally said, man, he don't
look like the huge we knowing love he still here.
We're gonna put a fast suit on him. But I said, man,
you ain't got to do that. By the greatest guy.
They had already filled my role because I want to
(25:58):
show I wanted whoever that some bitch was on Facebook
and said that I wanted.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
To see me and say, God damn Nigga Diddy because
I remember, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Uh, I don't compare myself to Robbing with Nero, but
Robber de Niro, he can't wait to be uh be out?
What was it?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
What was his name? Appucino? Not not the apatina? What
was the copone? Yeah? Compone?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
He can't wait to be compone? And I mean then
he lost weight to play Rocky Miser, wasn't I think?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But he had lost weight, got he he knew how
to do it. So I said, I guess to Dolay
Bull yeah yeah, yeah yeah but yeah but see but
but when I did it, man, I want a sag
of wood. Yeah yeah, I got an acting role. I
walked right past open to say, in your face open.
I walked up to John Forrest Whittaker, and I pointed
(26:47):
to his good eyes look at me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So how how did how did break in bads? How
did that.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Launch you in the in the comedic space? Because this
is a like a different audience. So when you do jokes,
when you tell jokes. Do you tell jokes according to
the audience or you just like I got this set,
I got there, I wrote this set, and I'm telling
this set tonight no matter who the audience is. Oh yeah,
I just do what I want to do, right, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I don't. They don't do it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They don't, they don't the audience on tip dictate me.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You can't see me.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
You're gonna you in my house, right, and you're gonna
laugh right. And a lot of people didn't even know
I was a comedian from Breaking Bad.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
They didn't know. They thought I was an actor. But
when they see me, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And a lot of Breaking Band, Yeah, they'll come to
the show because they Breaking Bad fan.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
They ain't coming to this show because because I'm because
I'm But.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It gave you a crossover there. Yeah, oh man, man,
I do it. I leave a show like we've been
doing the tour. The crazy shit that happened. It's something
bitch called my wife talking about I'm a Breaking Bad fan. Uh,
Lavell Crofts coming to New Orleans. How I need to
get an autograph picture because you let him know? And
(27:59):
first of all, I don't know some bitch got my number,
so I had to get my shit private. And my
wife was scared, like and like, how do you get
my number? And I was like, oooh, I don't know,
and it was it stretched me out. So I had
my brother check his ass, saying he was from Homeland Security.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But then he came. He came.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He was sitting out there after the show, and I said, well,
you the motherfucker called my wife. He said, uh, yes, sir,
I'm sure I by a mistake. I said, you're a
damn lie motherfucker. You didn't do it by mistake. You
ever call anybody in my family again.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Trust me. I know what you look like.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I come down here and I burn your fucking house down.
I ain't playing with you now. You can love my
show to show.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm on.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
You could have called me. If I ain't answered, you
wait outside. If you want an autograph, you don't call
my family. They don't have shit to do with this.
I said, man, I blow the world up for my family.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Dog.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I said, you don't want to play with me. I
am not the one and the thing. I ain't the
badst nigga the world, but I'm a fool.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Though you understand.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
It was but but it was just crazy that he
did that because people, I mean, they be at the
airport in bagging thing.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I don't be knowing that. How they know that? How
did you ever had it? Yes? I seen you one time. Mother,
You snapped on him, got the camera on.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Oh that's what I got your dog at I met
International airport. Nobody knows that I'm coming. I'm like, so
he might have been looking for someone else.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
He was just so rared. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. He knew your ass was coming. He did.
How you thinking? What fuck? TMZ and all this?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But when the lavelle that I was going to meet
the lady because she was bringing the dog, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I didn't. I wasn't going to catch the flight. I
was just showing up. How many months buying niggas with
sweaters on, walking looking like you, nigga, They see you.
You get out of the car. You come out of car.
You gotta get out and stretched you get out. Then
you got a laugh puppy in your hand. What got dog?
(29:59):
Was it? Palm rain man?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
What you get?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You like little dogs? I do you got a big dog?
I do? What kind of dog? Yet? Oh? Yeah, you
got an African. Yeah, man, I seen one of them.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I was against some weed at the weed house, and
I mean that's something bit stood like that.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean that all my year old, he's about one
seventy five. Man, I want one of them a caneo.
They killed wolf.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, but but yeah, that's a nice dog. Get they
fight lines great, you love it. Got he got smart.
He's smart, very and that's good. You got the little
dog because see, you want to see people don't know
this about animals.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You get your little dog for the bark. You get
your big dog for the bike. Yeah, you understand that.
People don't know. They see that little doll.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh, that little dog, but they come in that fucking
house the dog. That little dog warn the big dog and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
He won you. Yes, oh the big I ain't worry
about nobody coming in the big one. YEA quick.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
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Because you did meet the blacks, I mean you got Mikecams,
Mike Tyson, Snoop Dogg, Charlie Murphy, Paul Mooney. What is
(32:02):
it like working on the set with a group of
comedians that's as talented as these guys do?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Y'all tell jokes and y'all y'all like y'all, like y'all chill.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
No nigga were always talking shit. I'm a ship talker.
I don't play, man. I have fun with my friends,
right Mike and my boy. I knew Mike before he
had money. You understand, Little duballball Little Doball threatened to
beat me up anyway eight pounds.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I said, what side you're gonna beat up? Nigga? I said,
you ain't niggas but balls. I put my nigga on you.
Talking about you got a little dick. I said, this
look on me. If I put it on you, you
got a lack of blood. Nigga. Yeah, he'll tell you.
(32:49):
I told that that he can do nothing. Laugh. I said,
I knew you hear me all day. I won't even
feel it. Come on, dog, I mean that's that's threatened me.
I'm not secared of you.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Right he you know, but that's that big man mentality,
little man hal but big man, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But but no man, we have a ball man, you know.
I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Mike Tysan wasn't there when I was there, you know,
cause I met Mike a long time ago. Mike seen
me on stage one night. I ain't never seen Mike Tyson.
He won the Bad Niggas World, but he's seen me
light a nigga up in the audience, and Mike Tyson
literally act like he.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Was scared of me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He was saying, we's on the elevator and I said, hey, Mike,
I ain't doing anyway.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Heine levelle and he stepped back. He stepped back from me.
He want He told you he ain't want to be tossing.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I love you, dude, but but it was funny.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But no, I didn't see him, but Charlie Murphy I
met him way back or he was doing a tour.
Everybody on there, man, we just talked shit. Gary owns
everybody black, saying we was all over there. We were
just having fun. Me and Gary went to the casino
and they dinner. You know, it's just you know, calm
comedian so much on the road. It's always good everyone,
(34:02):
Like right now we're at this Netflix festival. It's beautiful
to see all my fellow comics. I don't have a
beef with nobody. I love everybody. I let you be
yourself because I don't have to be around you all day.
When I see you, man, it's love. If you got
a problem me, you just harboring some bullshit, because when
(34:23):
I see you, it's just love and it's good.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
To see. I mean some people that I of know know,
you know, cause I ain't never met Dave Chapelle.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I heard about I was twenty two, twenty three and
I heard about this young fifteen year old kid doing
comedy and they said he's a feenie and I never
got had to this day, I have never met her. Wow,
you know, I ain't never met her, but everybody else
like me and Chris Tucker. I remember when Chris Tucker
right right right when he did Friday, we were doing
(34:50):
an audition and that nigga bumped me on the audition
and that's the show.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I cussed his ass out. Wait a minute, minu, come on, man,
I ain't mean even I ain't know you going up
and it was so strange.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I seen him right because Kim Coles from Living Singles,
Hoasting and she's seen him, knew, and I was supposed
to go up.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
We had the same manag she's gonna freeing Chris duck up.
He killed the shit.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I went up and I didn't have one of my
favorable says. That's back when I was young, right, I
just moved to LA.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
It was kind of like.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Scary, right, I'm looking at you you Adam Sandler in
the movie and you had Ben steal A, Terry Cruz,
Luke Wilson, Rob Snyder, David Spade, Taylor Lot and Kevin James.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Robin Williams was in the movie with him with Crazy Ones.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Do you I mean, like, obviously Adam Sandler is one
of the great and you look at Robin Williams and
you talk about range stand up movies.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
He could play any type of role. Did you take
what did you? Did you get an opportunity to meet
those guys and like talk have conversation. Well, yeah, like
Adam Sander is so strange about him.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I used to say I wanted to be a black
Adam Sandler because my goal is to get an opportunity
to do a few movies and bring my friends and
so they could eat. Because you don't get that opportunity.
That's what gets me angry. I think that's one of
the things that kat had a problem with because you know,
kat Cat's a very communal guy. He brings like he
(36:13):
like he brought Monique on the show after she talked
about it. He brought her on, brought Kevin Harts to
the wife own. He bring all that he take care
of people and put him on who might not get
those opportunities. That that and seeing that, That's what I
love about Adam Sandler. Adams Sander bring all the ins
and their friends on. And then when he when when
(36:34):
I talked about it, it's just like speaking of this
and he somebody said, yeah, Adam Sander really like you.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
He wants you to be in his next movie. I'm
like Adam Sander, I.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Said, Man, I've been a fan forever. And he said,
you want you to come over had lunch and meet
him over in Sony. I said, what, man, I got
my car and shroomed over there, right and I got
over there and he came up.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Saying, Man, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Man?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Watch you on YouTube?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
And then I didn't get great, Man, I really wanted
to be to be a part of my show. Man,
are you are you good with that?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
You want to fuck you? I want to be in it.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I've been every damn movie you got, you know, And
the thing about it was I keep my energy good.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And I've been blessed to being three of his movies. Man,
you know, I mean, he ain't have to call.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I'm sure it was the other Big brothers, but he
called me in. And the last one I did was
Home Team, and he wasn't on it, but it was
his production. But I love him man, because Kevin, Me
and Kevin James, we got to sit down and talk,
you know, and everything. And like Robin Williams when I
did Crazy Ones and me and him sat down. He
was a breaking bad fan and you know.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
He was.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's so weird that he, you know, had he died
like he did because being a comedian, uh, and being
in this world we always think comedian is always funny.
But if you ever really smoking Robinson on Cheers of
a Clown, Yes, uh, a lot of us had to
Tears of a Clown because we give so much of
(38:03):
ourself on that stage. A funny comedian. He'll go on
that stage when we get done. He's exhausted, yeah, because
because he didn't gave them everything he could. When you
get gone, I get kill no nothing to make him laugh,
and it's good. And I one thing I'm learning about
being a comedian is to come and watch a show
and just be a part of the show, be a spectator.
(38:24):
Last night I got to do that, and I got
to go see a tribute to Sinbad and I watch
all my comedian friends do their thing, and I got
to see something that was funny, something that was.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Okay, but it was enjoyable, you know, because like when
I was at the laugh.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Factor, I couldn't do that because they put me on
stage after I did the show over at the YouTube Theater,
and I ain't really want to go up. I was
just watching young comises to see where the energy was.
But the young comics that I was just trying to
tell cause I wrote a comedy book. I wrote a book.
You ever want to do stand up at twenty nine
ninety nine, go on Amazon, gab you one.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
You stand up? Sure, nigga, you're gonna laughry. Just get
up there and just do speeches. Fuck up words, nigga, Nigga,
that's your gifts. That's your gift. You don't be fantastic man.
I can do, but you can't get mad. Motherfucker laugh.
(39:17):
I can do I can do. I can do comedy.
I'll mean what saying Saying told me I could do it.
Funk said say, I don't know nothing about no. Cat
told me I can do it too.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Cat fuck cat man, you right, he right, you know
you probably could though you know you're right for me. Sure,
right for you, Nigga, right for you, and teach you
how to buy socks. No, nigga, I mean, I think
you would be great your person You got a big personality,
right and I mean, and people gonna love you because
(39:48):
who you are.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You know, pro wrestlers do comedy. You have said, I'm
telling them something, bitches.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'll tell you who would have been a hilarious a
Stone coach Steve Austin because he looks so serious and
if he gives you something, bitch, come up something.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
But I'm Steve Waft and now don't have to tell
you Joe.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
And the funny thing about Steve Boston, he used to
be a pretty boy and then he got his bald
head and it became he became this tough guy because
even never was.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
A tough guy.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
But I think he would be hilarious. I mean, but
I think he'd be good. I think he'd be good.
You just have to find find your outline and then
you can't. You gotta jump over that line.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
You you jump over that line.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's hilario because you when you were talking to me
about you want to be with Glowrialer, then you say
you want nah you said up about no glow.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
You line you was on that damn show. You said
it with O too sinker. You said you want to
give a nod. That was somebody else. He said, no,
I had glow real on the show I love, but
you said you liked her. I mean she was nice,
she was great. But I'm telling you really get it
right with God to coming back. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Your muscle ain't gonna get you in the hip cause
you another talking about Yeah, I don't need no good
church girl.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I want me a freak. You don't.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Can't mess with freaking too much, Chad. You can't, can't
keep on frich freeze.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
I mean you know, ain't nobody gonna fuck with no
niggas sick nigga with muscles. Now some of them girls
got back, there is not some of them sitting too.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
So you.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Gotta slow down sooner than later. Why do you think
you've been able to have such crossover appeal because.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I love I love everybody, and I love myself and
people they gravitate towards me.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I think you.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, I have just as many non black fans
as I got white fan because I just come up
there and I be me and I think that people
and I generally just love what I you know, talk
about that even said, like I said with Homer, say
I got gay fans, man that love the funk out
of me because it's just funny.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I've seen so many gay women come to the show
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
And gay got And because my cousin actually he was
he was homostex with right and he was one of
my first supports, my cousin of mine.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And you know they you know he gay. He played,
he sang, he has.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Her like prince and he directed the Chriet church. You
know that's that's just gay form. And he used to
bring when I used to open mice. He used to
bring all the gay friends. He had two dudes that
was HELLI five designers because I see them niggas all
the time.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Still.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I mean the dude could make suits, you understand.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
And uh he was like, man, I remember you used
to do the open mic and me and my boys
coming to sh I said, I remember, I had, but
they be back coll val keep it down and the
other community like man, you know the guys my cousin friends,
you know, but they would come and support me and
you know, I said, man, I am chip off.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
What you do?
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I mean, gay people been around forever. I don't got
no heaven to hell to put you in. I mean,
you know, but I know I ain't. You know. I
love women all day if I wasn't married to my wife,
but I had to step in.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I have to be. I had to be you. I
would eat eat better than I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I ain't in that game no more. I feel something
for you niggas out there that chasing him. Girl, that's
why you got to go work out all the time. Yeah,
you can't even see down. You gotta be out there
chasing and have a little dog.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Who you get that? That's your dog? Yeah? Oh I
thought you got that for No I had, Actually I
had I've had, uh three, I got three.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I had three little dogs. I had to put two
up down, just put one down the window. Pamarana is
a cool dog. That Pomarine cost me eighteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah. My son asked sitting over there right now when
he was like he was the in the third grade.
When we was at the house, I tell this, it's
a crazy door. It was a house.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I'm in my office, you know, working while I was
on tom joining the show. So I write my script.
So I'm in my office, you know, my son come
in and a dog in the garage and a dog
in the ride. I'm thinking it's a pit bull. I'm
trying to keep crack because I said, get in the house.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Boy. You know, he left the door open. He in
the house. I was like shit, I'm like, oh god.
My my wife was like, boo, boo boo. You gotta
go tick. This dog is in the house. Go see
what it is. I'm like, God, damn, I gotta be
a man.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I gotta now. I gotta be daddy. I don't want
to get bit for my damn family. Like one time
a squirrel got in the house. Had a squirrel fucked
my day up, nigga because the guirrel squirrels moved like
got to rests.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You know what I'm saying. We doing that. I'm like,
you don't know how to you're not attacked that. You
don't know the nigga run, you don't snap on you.
And I said, all right, we just left the door.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
But he finally left and then he looking in the
window at me like yeah, nigga, I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
But back to this dog story. With this dog. He
was in the house and I'm.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Freaking like, man, it's a pit bull. I'm coming in
there with a bat. I had a football bat. I
even have a good back. I came, wait, you dog,
I'm talking ship coming around the corner of this little
pussy as Pomeranian little pup look like a big old
house shoe, just walking around house. You know, he's stupid.
He didn't look around. I was like, I be come
in here, little lad dog. I said, boy, I said, boy,
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what you running froun the dog? All of mud sudden
full circle.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
They fell in love with the dog. They started. They
went and got a cage for the damn dog.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
They didn't even when the black people get a dog,
they don't give him a hood on the wood.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
They didn't even look at his license. They just say
it's my dog.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
God brought him in the house. He gotta he got
a cave, feed him my roast beef. Yeah, I mean,
and they ain't have changed his name. I said, he
got a license. IM sure, ain't got to blame somebody.
So I put I put it on.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
Neighborhood, you know, just to say mad Los's dog. I
took a picture. He's a sweet dog. If somebody lost
their dog, we found him, you're welcome to come and
get him. So we put him in the backyard, and
whoever the lodge battle was found came over our house
took him out of the damn gate. Didn't even say
thank you for finding the damn dog. And he came
home and saw that dog was gone. This sucker cracked
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the biggest damn tears.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I ain't loved him, nigga. You just met him. You've
just been around about two hours he was up.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I was like, oh man, I'm ending up here and
me and my wife was going to this retreat and
I had I said, we'll take you get a dog
on Thursday. Right, we went and get a dog. I
thought it was gonna be about two hundred dollars, nigga.
We walking them dogs like a Gucci stood.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Yeah, damn business, bitch. I looking.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
I had to start looking at that pright. I like,
come here, boy, let me beat up. I was like,
fifteen hundred, get your fucking ass back in there, dog.
I don't even wait thirty pounds and they was eighteen
and he picked the laziest some bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
We got that called dog that cost me more money
than he did. He ain't protect us from ship.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
He almost killed me trying walking down the steps because
he be under movie. Damn dog, he's a He's a
lopso apsel, lousy asshole.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
That's what stand up. How did you get discovered? Shit,
I don't even know if I'm discovered. Yeah, we discovered.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I mean well, I mean, you know Comic View, Thank
God for common dude, that was your first big break.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, yeah, Comic View was my first. I mean when
I got on Comic View. That's why when they saw
already brought it back, I was was excited. When I
was watching BT, they had the old ones. I said,
they don't understand how prolific that was to the urban
community because people thought Death Jam. Death Jam was great
because it was it was bigger, it was too big
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because it was HBO. But BT was the Netflix of
comedy for for because it came on every day every day.
And these young comics, man, these guys, these guys becoming
stars from BT. And I would go when I went
on there, I tore it up. I was up for
the hosts twice. They never gave it to me, never
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gave it to me. I don't know what that fucking
shit was. I got a half hour special grand stand
I DL hugely holy one.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I remember I did it at DL.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I killed the crowd and I felt proud of I said,
and then the DL me on that fuck my name
of he gonna.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Say put your head together for lavel Ward and you
can if you watch me. I turned around, said, niggas crawfing,
you know, because I that's my name, and I'm like, now,
you didn't mess your nighbor.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
But but it was just a wonderful time, man, because
that's when all the committe is some more.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
I mean, shit, all.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
MIKEL garreytt On, we all young, all y'all, J Marrio, Jamiyo.
Uh you know TV hearn you had Tony Robbers, all
these give me Ricky Smiley.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
You know everybody got the host that sucker, that Al Burger,
Chucky dunk it. Yeah, and Bruce Bruce.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Bruce got to hurt. I said, I was mad Bruce
got a host. I said, well, I ain't gonna pick
no more fat niggas.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
So comic view your big break, you're gon NBC's last comics.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I'm standing was my crossover big yeah, that's what now
you household you and everybody's home.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Man. It was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I was in Beverly, Massachusetts and his white white lady
can't stood up.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Look, Belle, we love you.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Had a big poster board. It was like six poster boys.
It's just my name, no other comedian. That That's when
I knew that I was I was. I was a
powerful comedian. I knew from that I won all these
people's hearts over like that.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Are there any jokes that you won't say today that
you said maybe twenty years ago? Are you afraid of
ever slipping up and being canceled or attempting to be canceled?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
He told you I almost got canceled, so called canceled
when I was on plan right, So now I mean
cancel my Netflix subscription. I ain't afraid of being that
shit is bullshit because I think that you, I mean
a comedian.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
He go like Dave Jeah Peil. One thing I love
about Dave. Dave was pushing the OTT.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Over people was getting bored with it.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
But I think he wasn't doing it because he against
Homer said he was doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
To say man stop stop.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah, well, well this is the thing that that I
I always you know, people don't people don't want to
hear the truth.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
But I'm gonna say it the best way I can.
In the Black.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Community, Homosexuals was loved because they was in plays being
this little gay dude being carried I please, and they
was they was that they was always funny that even
when they was on shows. Every movie you see homosexual
it was like, I think the funny One of the
funniest movies I've seen was about gay.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Roger Moore was in it. Uh what's his name now?
It's called Boat Trip. Remember that Boat Trip with Cuba
Gooding Junior. Ye, oh my god, the one one of
the funny, funny movies in the world.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
And it was like they was on they wanted to
go on the boat Trip, and then they wanted to
go on with girls. They wanted up the gudes kind
of switched and putting them on this gate crewise. But
it was so funny, it was it was a great
It was a great movie. But I was like, I said,
when if you can't you not alligwning people to laugh
at you and to laugh at you and laugh at
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the situation, how can you love yourself?
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Because you have to get past.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Because if it because I remember when you see this
world and got weak because when we was going up.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can
never hurt me. And I mean, and they can't really
hurt you if unless you want them to hurt you.
I mean, people gonna say what they want about you.
They talk about Jesus, and I love Jesus, and they
still they try to denounce that he real.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
They try to say what color he is? They know.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
People don't even want to believe in it no more.
I said, man, but when you stop believing it, I'm
sure it's gonna be the only nigga in heaven.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
I was showing me enjoying all that shit. But I
but I I said, I think that that.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
No, I'm not worried. I'm not worried like that because
I don't beat up on nobody. I mean, you know
that ain't my child. Now if you say something it
pissed me off, trying to mess me up, yes, I'll
tear you up.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
That's my bread and mother. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Did you know that the comedians you've been in this
thing thirty plus years, Lavella, did you know comedians behind
the scene felt this way about each other.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, I mean, we're human beings. I mean, I'm sure
all you mother got beefs in the morning.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
The shameful thing about it is that bothers me about it.
Like I said before, a cab made he made it,
he got he got the he got that real money, right,
And I'm gonna tell you something before I move on
with that. Get some more comfortable furniture in here. You
look so uncomfortable. I'm comfortable trying to get up. You're
trying to tay on this part of this.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Hit you. No, I bust your knee on it.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Damn no, I ain' hit my name. No, no, I know,
but I thought you ain't comfortable. You can school back,
school back and get comfortable like me.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I was guyded, I was gonna do that. Yeah, do
that right there? Yes, okay, I didn't know I could
do that. Whatever. You're comfortable, all right, and we are
you gonna blame it. We're gonna blame it on the poor.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yes, yeah, but look but but yeah, but when I
say that, it's like when we all in the soup
and we ain't got no money and it ain't we
ain't got you see the opportunities over here, we normal folks,
because you see, when people ain't famous, no more, how
friendly they is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
But when they famous, they yeah, yeah, it's like why
why why did? Yeah? Why why you had to lose
it to be who you was before?
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Just be you?
Speaker 1 (53:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (53:33):
I don't give a fuck with producers talk about movies
that you just getting that money, because I mean I
had I've been, I've been. I man, I haven't been
in the game. I've been around the world. I didn't
seen it all. I didn't have do all kinds of opportunities.
I ain't never had the big money, but I always
wedged myself in the game. Somebody say an under RADI
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you're live. I've been kicking it.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I done a lot of shit pretty good. Yeah yeah,
but and I like the way I'm flying.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
I don't have to where about shit and try to
stay on somebody's path.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
I'm me.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
But yes, comedians always had, you know. And I think
the beef comes from this success over here, the success
over there, that's when they become beef. Before they make it,
they cool or they're fighting the street. I mean we
you know, everybody ain't gonna get along. Everybody did, but
everybody ain't gonna make it either, La Belle, Oh for sure.
I mean that's in anything, right. I mean, this depends
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on what you consider making it well. You could you
know my making it well?
Speaker 2 (54:34):
I mean you like, I mean there are some people like, okay,
the comedies, like you said, you do two hundred shows
a year, you make great money. But a lot of
times people look and they see what they see well
Prior and they see Cosby, and they see Prior, and
they see Kevin Hard and they see Mike Elson, they
see so many of these other comedians not only do
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what that stand up. You see the Adam Sandlers, and
you see the Ray Romanos, and you see the scientif
had TV shows, they was like, well, why didn't I
get why didn't I get back?
Speaker 4 (55:06):
Yeah, But you can't sit up and ask why. You
just gotta find your world.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
I don't think their success ain't my success because we
don't know what kind of pain come with that. Pleasant
you understand, because I know I know the backgrounds on
some of that money, and I know some of some
of them really be working harder than they make it.
You understand, right, You don't.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
You can't always say oh, I mean when I you know,
I remember back, I see some famous women and they.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Be with somebody like Williamsville and Jay Piggure. I said, man,
I mean that's a lucky dude.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Buy they the big b B he's making booth and
then we see their life just implode. You understand what
I'm saying. So you don't know, Yeah, what's really you
don't really know? You thinking that he got this perfect
life and it's not what you think. And my and
the thing about it, like co medium site see my
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life and then they would think they they love it.
But I learned to be grateful for what God give me.
And that guy and he blesses me to go to
the mother plateaus because I mean, I ain't done. I mean,
I'm gonna get my real moments in the sun. I'm
got some more opportunities gonna come. But right now I
don't stress on it no more. I mean I'm blessed. Man.
(56:32):
I'm blessed because I can I can go pretty much
anywhere and get the work and I and people and
my persona and my personality it's so admirable.
Speaker 1 (56:45):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
A person who can't stand here hate me, that person
that know me won't believe them. You know what I'm saying,
because like, let's say, you know somebody you come up to,
coming to you know, to say something about one of
your friends.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
Man, you know that motherfucker you ask So hold on, man,
what you mean.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
You're a good dude, right man? Okay't believe Oh you
don't know him like I know. I said, nig I've
been knowing him all my life. You're cold dude.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
You ain't gonna never believe what they say because you
know him and the way he carried himself with you,
you know, and that's how you should live your life.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
I read what you said, Kat uh when Kat said
what he said on the show that a lot of
these people shouldn't not have responded because it makes them
look guilty.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
You still stand by that or you? Yeah, of course,
but you don't. You have the right to defend yourself
because it's a double edged sword. Well, if you defend yourself,
what you defend yourself? Again, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
If I don't say anything, they say, well he's guilty
if I do say something, they say, hit dog holler.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
So how do I win? Or do I win? Or
should I not even try to win this situation?
Speaker 3 (57:51):
You win back going on stade and blowing that motherfucker up,
doing your thing, keep on being successful, and keep on
moving on with your life. It's like quake did hurt quake?
Motherfucker unfrosted. They said he couldn't read a nigga in
a movie. Somebody read it to him.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
There you go better.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
I'm just saying they said he couldn't read it. Ain't
got a radio show that he been on all this time.
So but when they people say he learned to read
somewhere like this nigga's in the air force and know so,
I mean, people gonna say, you know, but my thing,
it is like I said, I think, like I said,
you you look guilty, you know, because I mean because
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what it does is right. Look at it, y'all talking
about the Kennedy Lamar Beav and all that shit that
they keep going back and forth saying this most ridiculous
and horrifying things about each other. But my whole thing,
you saying this shit about this nigga, So you knew
this about this motherfucker all the time, and he ain't
reported as to bully.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
You understand what I'm saying. You was just as guilty
as he is.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
So now you want to bust him out like it's
gonna make it bad. No, that makes you look as
bad as him. You said you're betterphile. Okay, you're a
better file. But you knew this, and you letting these
kids rich, these kids like because you want to say
it in a rap battle. You know, that's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying. When you but but but if
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it ain't true, you know, you don't have to regurgitate
it and keep on right off. But if you say
I'm batified, nigga, I'm come on, say, motherfucker, I ain't that.
I'm gonna I'm gonna walk out all that, nigga.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
We gotta go. We gotta go to Whoa Whoa. You
just told me that when Mike Kemp said that about me,
I should have just laughed at all.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
He said you was a better file. No, it's the
same thing. A straight man don't want to be called gate.
Well you knew you wasn't getting no, but well he
knew he not a pedophile. So what's the difference, you.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Know, no, no, no, no, no no no, I said no, no, no,
no no no. Hold on, hold on, okay, hold on.
I mean, first of all, I wouldn't. I wouldn't never
done your ass a gate because it wouldn't look right
on you. If I see your ass with a blind
wig and I'm gonna smack shit out of you, nigga,
don't care.
Speaker 4 (59:57):
I'm strong you in even your funk ass. Back over
and be a man, nigga.
Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
You know. But that that, but that that was some
ship talking. But that when he said a pedophile, you
ain't hurt nobody. You ain't. You ain't gay. It's gay.
If you was gay, you hold up to that ship
is now. But I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Look I'm a straight man, I know, and I'm from
the South, and I don't. Don't try to masculate me
because I don't play them game. All I almost say is, okay, why.
Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
So taking a mass davey, if you put your pants down,
smack you on your ass.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
No, none of that. Don't. They don't, they don't will
do that said.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
But that's all I'm saying, though, level all so all
the things you can say with Shannon talk with the
lis like you said, Man, I saw him talking on TV.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
He spreading everybody all over the place. You go to that,
Yeah I did. No, I've been talking about you here.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
No, no, but go to gay Okay, Yeah, I mean
it was a it's a stretch because I don't I've
seen you got.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Kids, Yeah, I got man and people. Look, there are
a lot of people there. Look, no thing.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I don't got no problem with nobody else. Whatever about
whatever letter you want to use in the alphabet.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
That's you. That's your life. I don't judge nobody.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
I would I would. I would just never believe you gay.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
That's the thing. So when he said that, I would
just be laughing. The only reason, he said, because you
add the purse on your neck. That's it now, he
said that before I had the purse before you. Yeah, well,
because that's I'm gonna wear the person gain. I ain't
get rid of my person.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
But it's a lot of my fucking with the man.
Bag man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
You know how long I have to wait to get
on that list of her mass. You can't walk to
this door, you know her? Man, I believe mat I
wear it selve months.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Well, you had glag White. I benna get it. He
never loves like that. You gotta. I ain't got no money.
I ain't got no money like you got ship.
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
You gotta hurt mass. I ain't got nigga. I gotta
to me while if I showed him, motherfucker, you're gonna
be laughing at me. Look look, look, but look you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
You can your battles.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Okay, what you have. You have every right to defend
it if.
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
You want to.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
But I think you walk in with bad bitch that
stop all that punk ass hit you know, or do
it sex tape.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I ain't gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I mean they might feel me. You got the crew,
you're right here. They welcome the club. Say Jay, we're
doing a little something different tonight. Watch this Mike Epps.
Now you know, but no, But I mean, I'm sure
if you if you felt that way, you had the
right to say it. I can't tell the man not
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to do it, but I know if you do it, yeah, yeah,
it's gonna be a wildfire because it's so weird about
like you said, hit dog, how do U crying baby?
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Crying baby?
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
If you say something and everybody go ah, Mike, Mu's
been right you know whatever, pump.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
You can't really you can't please people. You you beating
ass it. It's still gad nigga, beat the shit out
of me. You understand what I'm saying. You under saying,
You're like, man, that's not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
You know, but it's it's it's it's it's just goes
into stuff. And I trust me, man, I mean trust me.
I got mad mother, call talking about my head, call
me fat, talk about this, talk about that, and I
you know, and I be just like man, I don't
even waste my energy no more.
Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Sometimes I get mad about it. But I you know,
I talk to Jesus. I said, Jesus, help me get out,
get this heads out of my system because because because
when you do that, it really goes away.
Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
And so you got just elevate you because I'm gonna
guarantee you something about me.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You talk about me. But they say, hey, novel crafts
on club. She ain't, Hey, nigga, what the fuck you do?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
They had leave crumbing on that. Mother fuckers.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
You know niggas on two of them might not go
viral as cat ship. I ain't even about that because
I mean, I didn't do it for that. I see
a man that seel came on and she she had
us moment on here.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
I don't. I don't get into that. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I don't even put nobody I messed with Mike Blackson.
I joke because I say that ship to him.
Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
I'm not. I'm not that guy to worry about that.
If you don't like me, I cause, let me tell
you so.
Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I ain't got I got shunned by a celebrity, hurt
my damn feeling, you know, But I still love niggah ship.
I was at the airport, got on the plane. Boosie
Badass on the plane with me, and he got all
the plants. Oh shit, Boosie bad Ass. Man, hey, man,
let me get a picture with you.
Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Now, he gonna probably come back and say, nigga lying on.
I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I tell my daughter and them there, and they laugh
at me because because I was getting a picture for them,
because they was more fans than me, and you know,
but but I was like, oh that is him. He
wouldn't have their security with him or nothing. And I said,
Boots better if you think I get a picture. He said, yeah, man,
hold up, so so I thought we dropped a boom.
Take a quick cell phone. He said, let me go
to the bathroom. So I was like, okay, I'm out here.
(01:05:14):
I ain't no, I'm not no slaps my damself, but
I'm looking like a eager ass fan sitting out here
waiting on him to come out of the tiller.
Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I said, you're ready for the picture. The motherfucker walks
past me and go sit down, And I was like,
what the fuck is he doing? Like I didn't want
to push it, you know, like, you know, like you
ready for the picture.
Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I'm standing there looking goofy as fuck. I felt even fatter.
You know what I'm saying, I'm sitting out the god
let me ask again.
Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I said, you know what I'm saying, You ready for
the pictures, sir? Like that, you know, just like you know,
And the.
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Nigga pulls his phone out and gets on this phone.
I don't even think he died. Nobody went s.
Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Motherfucker wearing me a by the goddamn picture man, and
I went for read oh, and I was mad as shit, like, man,
you know, yeah, I'm skinny.
Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
If I was back in my day, I might have
granted laughed up choke his diabetes out of But.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
I said, maybe he just didn't want to be bothered.
I forgave him.
Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
I still laugh at me because I felt I fell
in love with the brother from his video because he
made me laugh. And then the motherfucking fish and he finished.
I said, man, you fishing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
You act like that towards me, But I didn't take
it like painful, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
But but my daughter laughed when she laughed and fished
me off because she laughed at me, cause she laughing
at how how I tell the story?
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
And and I can't I keep forgetting I'm a comedian.
But it was like the way he did it, it
was just like, God, damn, how you doing me like that? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Give me my rushmore, comedian, My my rushmore. You're my rushmore.
LaBelle Craft's my rushmore.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Let me let me hold slow down and think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
There.
Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
I'm putting myself up there. It ain't nobody ever seeing me.
Robin Harris, Richard.
Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Pryor, it's for and that need one more, one more, okay,
ron Has Richard Pride.
Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Murphy Chapel bird, you got all, you got so many.
I'm my old school okay, Carling. Oh yeah, Paul Mooney
and color Red Fox.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Red Fog.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
You know why because he's from Saint Louis and he
he was just he was He was an incredible entity,
and he was a good brother and he helped our
people too.
Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
As for Red Fox, that's my mom Rushmore LaBelle Crawford.
Ladies and gentlemen, appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, bat Price,
want a slice, got the brother all my life.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I'll be grinding all my life up all my life,
grinning all my life. U sacrifice Mussell, play the price
and want the slice. Doctor boll the dice and swap
all my life. I'd be grinding all my life.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Mm hmm