Listen Again: Mo'Nique

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shashe. I am
your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proproud of Club
Shasha and the young lady that stopping by for conversation
on a drink today. Is one of the best love comedians.
She's one of the most decorated actors. She won an Oscar,
a Golden Globe. She's a British Academy Film Theater, an
Arts Award. She's a Scripts Howard Guild winner, naacp Immage

(02:14):
Award winner. She's been nominated for a Primetime Emmy and
a Grammy. She's a talented host, executive producer, writer, and
an author. A versatal entertainer, a famed Hollywood star, a
powerful name in the industry, a veteran stand up comedian,
a mother, a wife, a legend, the one, the only Monique.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Wow, Wow, no one does that better? Baby? Do it again?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hell on, welk it to another episode of I Am
Your Hole.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now put that damn cars down and read all that again.
Oh brother, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
We started by. I want to toast you for your amazing,
amazing career, not only in front of the camera, but
behind the camera and your stand up career. Monique for
stopping by today.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Thank you for having me, brother shay Shah.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Thank you. But a drinks of what after that?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
One?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay? Who? Yes? Indeed, let me just say this before
we start. Yeah this right here. Yeah, I'm gonna talk
right to the sisters. One sip, get you right there,
and now I'm back to your shave. I'm back to
your baby. That's enough for me, baby, But oh, sisters,

(03:26):
if you're trying to make up with your man, if
you're trying to get pregnant. This right here is Shannon
Shop one set, take care of.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
All your woes?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Why that thing right there?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay morning, When you hear everything that I read on
the card, what goes through your mind? When you hear that?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
What goes through my mind? When I hear you read that?
I'm humbled by that. I'm grateful for that I've been
allowed to share a gift, because that's what it is.
But when you start reading that, there's a part that says,
who was he talking about? And there's another part that says,
I'm grateful that I was able to put that work

(04:06):
in to achieve those things. But all with humility.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You said, we were talking off camera. You said, I
want to get something. There's something I want to share
with you, and I need to get it off my
chairs early.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Because that's why I'm looking at you now. Why you're
going into that because I talked him. We could not
talk till I dealt with you. Okay, listen, Okay, So
let me say this to you. The day I watched
Skip Baylist, okay lose himself with you, and that's what
he did he lost himself. And when I watched Skip
baylist say to you, put them goddamn glasses back on. Boy.

(04:41):
Now I know he didn't say goddamn it, boy, but
that's what everybody heard. And I was waiting for you
to snatch his ass across that table, baby and give
it to him. I was like, sharing it. This is
the perfect time. I don't condone violence. I don't say
be violent, but that day I was in my feelings
for two days. Me and my grandm baby could not
watch you for two days, and my husband had to say, Mama,

(05:04):
let's talk about this. Look at Shannon Shaw. He retired
in two thousand and four, but he could still get
on that field and run touchdowns, tackles, everything. Had he
snatched skip bails across that table, he would have died
in Shannon's arms that day. So brother Shay, Shay handled
that right. Now, we can talk, Okay. I just had
to get that off of me, because I know everybody

(05:25):
around the world heard what I heard. No, he didn't
say them words, but we heard it in his mind,
and we was looking for you to say, spacing opportunities,
kept spacing opportunity.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
That's that be more coming out of you.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
You know what, that's your aunt Mary coming out of me. Yes,
your Aunt Mary coming out of me.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Baby, I got an aunt named Mary Nell Monique. You
and her are a spitting image. I remember the very
first time I saw you and my sister and I
we were talking and my sister looked at me and
I looked at her. I say, she's a spitting image
of my aunt Mary, and you are you are. Hopefully
we're gonna put a pitch when we run this. So

(06:02):
you're from Baltimore, yes, And I read everything that I
read when you were growing up in Baltimore. What did
a young Monique want to be?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Just what I'm doing right now? Baby, you dream of this,
just when I tell you, Shannon, from a little girl,
I always wanted to be famous, Okay, because I saw
the Jackson five and I saw people screaming for them
and hollering, and I'm like, damn it, I want them
to scream and holler for me. But I couldn't sing.
But I knew somewhere I was gonna be famous. So

(06:29):
I prayed to the universe, just let me be famous.
I didn't understand what all came with that. As a
little girl, you just see the lights, the glamour, the glitz,
and you fall in love with fat. So that little
girl fell in love with the lights, the glamour, and
the glitz. That little girl fell in love with a

(06:50):
woman named Oprah Winfrey on a local talk show in
Baltimore called people are talking. And when I looked at
that woman Shanning, I saw me. I saw a big
woman with a big head, big shoulders, and big feet,
and I said, if fat woman can do that, so
can I. So that's what that little girl was thinking
about from Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Are you the type of person that if you see
someone do something one time that means it can be
done again. Because you saw Oprah do it, you say, well,
Oprah doing it, why can't Monique do it?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I think Oprah, when I saw her do it as
a little girl, was a push. However, had I not
seen Oprah, my dreams would have still been my dream.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, but when you.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
See somebody that's inside of that space, because how many
big black women are on TV even now, so back
then you didn't see any big black woman on TV
that was doing it. So I think had I not
seen her, I would have still wanted to do it.
But seeing her, let me say, Okay, it's possible, it's
right there.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
What was Monique like as a little girl?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
What you're seeing right now? But I just got listen.
Let me tell you something. A lot of people in
this industry don't like me. Right. They didn't like me
as a little girl, Shannon. I'm so used to this shit.
People didn't like me because I was gonna tell it.
I'm going to tell I'm going to tell on you.
So what you're saying right now is the same thing
you're getting. They tried to fight my ass in the

(08:15):
twelfth grade, Shannon. They surrounded me, a group of them. Okay,
wanted to fight on me. Why because I told the truth?
What you tell I told. I told Andre that that
was not Lawan's baby, because that's what let me tell
Wait a minute of sugar. You're gonna calm yourself. Okay,
do you see Shannon losing itself? Shannon, let me tell

(08:40):
you something. Okay, I'm a person for right, right, And
if you tell me something and you say, Monique, I've
done something to somebody, but don't say nothing, Shannon, I'm
gonna need you to fix that, because if you don't
fix it. I'm gonna have to tell that because it's wrong.
So when she tells me this, this is not his baby,

(09:00):
but I'm gonna tell him it's his baby, I can't
let you do that. That's not right. So what I
stand for is right. And I think where we run
into a problem in our community, in our group, we
get so caught in Well, that's not your place. But
you see wrong happening, right, So when you see wrong happening,
what you do? Do you just stand back and say

(09:22):
that ain't my business? Or do you look and say, well,
I knew that wasn't his baby. Now the baby twenty
one years old, he's trying to find his father. What
you're gonna do, I'm asking you what you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, honestly, Monique, if somebody say, well, selly, I'm gonna
tell you something, and I'm gonna tell you this in confidentiality,
and I don't want to go any further than me,
you and this table. Yes, it stayed with me and
him in the table.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, let me say this because I'm gonna go back
and forth with your hands. Okay, I would say, before
you tell me, did you hurt somebody?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yes, before you tell me, is this something that would
make me question your character? Before you tell me, you
gotta be clear about what you get ready to tell me.
Because if you're getting ready to tell me something and
I know that you've done something wrong, I know that
you're wrong, and I not say anything. That's why people
are allowed to keep harming people for years to come.

(10:12):
See Harvey Weinstein. Yes, well, there's a lot of people
that knew what was happening.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
But if it wasn't their place, it was well in them.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right until it becomes you. So I think the moment
we get into a space and I was in eleventh
grade at the time, okay, but when we get into
a space where we say listen, if I know you're
doing wrong and I take a position that's not my place,
eventually you will succumb to what you support.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
What was your relationship with the young lady that told
you this in confidentiality.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You're not going to focus it on. I was in
eleventh grade. Now I'm fifty six. But when she told me,
I told her I'm going to tell see I'm that
I'm going to tell him what you said, so we clear,
I'm going to tell him what you said, because that's
not right.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Mo see. I think that's the problem that we're dealing
with right now, Shannon. When we know something is wrong
everything Kat Williams said here and said, we all know
it to be the truth. However, we get so caught
up in well, I ain't gonna say nothing. Well, can
you believe he said it?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Or can you where's the messenger?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's the messenger, baby. We get so caught up in
the messenger that will overlook the message. People have a
hard time hearing a five foot five giant tell the truth.
People have a hard time with a black woman over
two hundred pounds tell the truth. Because people that look
like us, we should just be grateful we got invited

(11:48):
to the party. We should just be grateful that someone
paid us attention. I've dealt with that in my whole life.
I've dealt with that. So when you get to a
space where you say, listen, I want to be free.
I want to be free. I don't want to walk
around intimidated, skined, fearful what might happen, What they're gonna

(12:10):
what they're gonna say, what they're gonna do. If it's
your story and it's the truth. Tell it because what
you can do is be in a position to prevent
it happening to someone else, over and over and over again.
So if I go back to the eleventh grade with
that sister who's no longer with us, rest her with
that sister, I would do that again, because if you

(12:34):
tell me something and we know it's wrong, but you're
gonna pen that on somebody else, is that right?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
No, it's not right.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And what would your aunt Mary do? Badds. You're not
answering my question. What would your aunt Mary do?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, she don't tell it because you're gonna tell anything anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
But that's why you're love. I'm married, because I'm married.
Kept it in check. Even though you didn't want to
tell her, she was gonna tell that. Baby. You know
that's not your daddy. We're not gonna play like that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
You love our married I do. The uniqueness of your
name m o hyphen Most of the time, Monique is
a singular. It's not m o hyphen. What was that like?
Because people say, are you trying to be different? You're
trying to be boogie you no good? Well, you spell
your name monique like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I do. That's my stage name. When I'm not on stage,
my name is m O n I q u E.
When I'm on stage, it's m O the little hyphen
and iQue. That's just entertaining.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Did you not? Do you ever think about changing it
to the hyphen?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
No? On stage is one person. Off stage is somebody different,
and sometimes we get the two mixed up. On stage,
I am an entertainer. Off stage, I'm a wife, I'm
a mommy, I'm a friend, I'm a sister. I'm these
different people. But I keep that stage on the stage.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
How much of stage is actually Monique?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
That's good, Shay say that's good. All of the stage
is Monique. But there are certain things Monique's gonna say
on stage that she wouldn't say off the stage. There
are certain things on that stage. You know. There have
been people that say, oh, she cussed so much. Oh
I'm a performer. I'm an entertainer and I'm on stage.
But no one will ever find an interview of me

(14:28):
doing what I do on stage. In an interview like
I'm having with you, it's two different things.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
What type of student was Monique? I read that you
were in I don't know if this is the correct way.
But you were in the class that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
The slower one.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah you you had a
say it baby, now I want you to spell it out. Hey,
you got two laps.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay, okay, but I did not wear a helmet. Okay, now,
since you want to go there, I did not have
to wear that helmet, baby.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So yes, as I sit here with you today, you
didn't all of a sudden become this advanced. Why were
you in that class?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm not gonna play with you, Shannon. Okay, some of
them damn words Cat was using. I was like, what
I said, he's sucking it to them. You know, I
never connected with school because I always felt like it
wasn't adding up. So when you're trying to teach me
about the Boston tea party, but people that look like
me as at the bottom of the boat, I can't

(15:38):
connect with what you're saying. I never connected to because
I always felt like something was off. When they were
teaching me about.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
History, we were always the savages, and we were always
the bad people, and then you saw these white people
be all the heroes, and as a little girl, I said,
something's not adding up.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
So I don't look at that as a bad thing.
I just didn't connect with it. It made no sense
to me.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So you never had a problem with learning. But to
disconnect was what they was teaching and what you actually saw.
You like, what you teaching me is not what I
actually see.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
You know what's Shannon, It's a combination. Okay, it was
a combination. Okay. I wasn't grasping it and I didn't
believe it. So it's a combination. And when you have
a child that is full of energy and it's sitting
in a classroom that is closed in all day long
and you're trying to tell me all that I'm not,
it just did not add up to me. It just
did not make sense to me. So there's no shame

(16:37):
to it. When people say, well, you're in a soul class.
Ye yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know we call it.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
So when you.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Hey, but don't overlook what you don't think is the
package supposed to be. See again, we come back to
the messenger. Nobody thought that I would be and I'll
go to my family like nobody thought, not the fat one.
She's not gonna be the one. Not her. So I've

(17:06):
been used to people doubting and counting me out. And
for me as that little girl, it's like one day,
one day, one day, and that one day is right here.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Even your family, So how how was your family? How
was your brothers and sisters? Because I mean, look we Joe,
I mean I got bro I got a brother and sister,
and you know, we joked with each other. And I
can imagine that if the situation where if one of
us was in those class, Oh we're gonna we're gonna
get them jokes off motke. I'm just it is what
it is.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
No one paid enough attention. Really, like, no one paid
enough attention because though we lived in a household together,
we were very individual so no one even paid attention
to what was really going on. And to include my parents.
And that's not a victim story, that's not all what
was me. It's just what it was. So it wasn't like, oh,

(17:56):
you dummy, the jokes were always fat. They were all
ways fat jokes. Okay, so I'm so used to that.
But maybe the only one that sneaks snacks. I'm the
only one that'll sneak them, damn snacks said, And I'm
the only one, yes.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So how would so what So what would you say
your relationship then and now was with your family?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, my relationship now of my family. They're my biological family,
and I wish them. Well, here's the thing I watched
you do, and I think it was like a little clip,
and they were talking about interracial dating. Yes, and you said,
why would somebody stay where they're miserable?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
That applies everywhere, Shannon, it just doesn't apply to that,
especially in our community. We've been taught take care of
your family, make sure well. There are some families that
deserve it, and there are some families that you have
to say, listen, I'm so glad we had this time together,
and that's it. That's where I am with mine. I
wish all of them the best, but that's what it is.

(19:04):
So even as I sit here with you now, with
all that's going on in Hollywood and all of the
stuff I had to go through, I've already been through
it with people that you call your family, and I
have to say, you know what, that has to just
wash off when I know what I'm standing in and
what I'm standing on.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
You're absolutely right, Monique. My grandmother used to always tell us,
she say, Son, teeth and tongue may fall out, but
family never should. And she stood on that no matter
what transpired in the family, no matter how bad someone
had treated you, you should never fall out. But hearing
you say that's different because just because we're blood, that
doesn't mean we're fat. We're family through blood, but sometimes

(19:44):
it's somebody on the outside that's not blood that's actually
closer familys than the actual biological we've.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Been taught to you say, trauma is okay. We've been
taught to say, you mistreated me, you abuse me, you
violated me, your distress effected me, you belittled me. But
I'm supposed to look at you at Thanksgiving and say
how you doing unc That's what we've been taught you
swallow that pain. That's why people have such a problem
with Kat Williams. People have a problem with people that

(20:15):
says I'm going to tell the truth. I'm going to
tell the truth, and that causes a ruckus. And you
would say why are people upset with the truth? When
you hear Steve Harvey say they are repercussions when you
tell the truth, Well, remember when we were children, what
would your grandmother tell you?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Tell the truth tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Because if not, there will be what repercussions? Well, now
it's got turned around. When you tell the truth, they'll
be repercussion. So what's the opposite of that? Should I
tell a lie and get a reward? So that's how
we're rolling right now. That's how we're dealing with one
another right now. So when it comes to family and
people said, oh, Monique, how could you listen? I want

(21:03):
to live the rest of this journey that I have
in peace. I want to be with my family, in
love with my man, he in love with me. We
watch our babies grow and develop their own families. I
don't need anything in the midst of that. Because you
family that I should accept that trauma. I should accept
you not taking accountability for what you've done, what you've said,

(21:26):
And we just washed a slate. That's why we're in
the position we are now as a community, as a
black community, as a community. In entertainment, everybody's been so
afraid to say, look what they did to me, Look
what they said. And it's like, oh, well, listen now,
we don't want to ruffle no feathers. Feathers, especially if

(21:48):
the messenger doesn't fit what people should think the messenger
is supposed to look like and we keep repeating history, Shannon.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Is that the situation will neque. We're people look and say, well,
you made it thus far when it couldn't have been
that bad. Because if it has been as bad as
you said it was, Monique, how would you have ever
gotten out of be more? How would you have ever
gotten into Hollywood? How would you ever have a talk show?
How would you ever be on a sitcom? So? How
is it that bad? Monique? And you end up like this?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know, when you first got in the NFL, yes man,
your eyes were like this, yes, and it was Oh,
I made it, I'm here. And then after you start
getting in it, and you started seeing things and you
started feeling things, and you start now your eyes start
sitting a little closer because now you're understanding what the
business is.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So when you first walked through the door, you're walking
through the door saying, come on, baby, Oh, this is
all I've ever prayed for. And when my baby cat
Williams said here and said, no one's ever gone out
to LA and got a sitcom like that. I was
in LA for three months and here comes a show
called the Parkers and there we go from there. It

(22:56):
took off from there. So I think that when people
say if it was so bad, you mature, You begin
to understand what you're dealing with. You begin to understand
what you're in the midst of. And once you understand

(23:19):
it is when you can speak on it. But before
you really know what you're looking at, how do you
speak on that? Because when you first walk in the
door of Hollywood, you have everybody telling you, oh my goodness,
you're going to be amazing, Oh my goodness, this is
going to be incredible. Well that's all you know.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
That is all you know. Yes, but you're so happy
to be here. Yes, and you're like.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Okay, when I listen to your story, you say dirt, poor, yes,
bad froom outside, Yes it was. We had to make
it work. However, we can make it work.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And then you get that first bit check yes, and
you think the people that gave it to you was
awesome because they gave it to you and it's more
money than you've ever seen before. Until you find out
this ain't the right money, this ain't the right amount.
Wait a minute, if they got this, why am I
getting this? Then you start putting the pieces together, and

(24:15):
you start saying it's not right, and I'm going to
speak about it. See when I saw Taraji broken on
those platforms, it was painful to watch. However, Taraji and
I had a conversation over a decade ago and my

(24:37):
trailer when I was doing the morning show, and she said,
you know, you gotta keep on getting it until your
turn come. And I said, Taraji, most of us die
before our turn comes. We gotta ask for it right now. Now.
I understand that because there was a time I felt
the same way, because that's what I was told. You
just keep going and we'll get them the next time.

(24:58):
We'll get them the next time. We'll get it the
next time, and the next time never comes. And then
you see our sister broken sitting on those platforms now
when I said it, when I said.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
It, why didn't they get the traction? When you said
it that when she said it. Now, all of a sudden,
everybody is coming and I don't have a problem. I'm glad, yes,
but if you said this a decade ago, and I
remember you saying it over a decade ago, why didn't
they get the traction? Why didn't they get the support.
Why wasn't it propped up when Monique said it.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think there's a few reasons why. Number one, it
was the messenger. I should just be grateful I got
invited to the party. You a big fat black woman,
how dare you be the one? And then on top
of that, you're saying names. Your saying Oprah's name out loud,
your saying Tyler's name out loud, You're saying Lee's name
out loud, your saying lions Gate out loud. That's not

(25:56):
what we do. We say they, we say the people,
we say the student, we say the producers. How dare
you actually say our heroes names specific? These are our heroes.
How could you say their names out loud? Because they're
the ones that did it? And if I don't say
it out loud, Now you see a woman that is

(26:18):
swallowing that pain, that is so stressed out. Then you
see our sister, Taraji p Henson sit on that platform,
and I love that baby because she's a beautiful spirit.
But to see her that broken. What our community was
saying was we have a hard time, some of us,
we have a hard time seeing a strong black woman

(26:40):
with a backstreet and a chin up and a strong
black man standing by her side. We have a hard
time accepting that, but we can accept seeing a black
woman broken. Now it's really serious because she's falling apart.
Our community had a hard time with those two things.
And when I would hear people say why is her

(27:01):
husband there? Why is he there? It's a sad day
when we're questioning why a black man was staying with
his black woman. So when you hear black women saying
we're the most undervalued, disrespected, underserved, mistreated, violated, exploited, we

(27:24):
get all of that. Then you see a black man
standing with his black woman saying not on my watch.
And you hear some black men saying while her husband
got to be there. We're in a sad state of
affairs when we begin to question black love and black unity.

(27:44):
So they didn't want to hear me, some of them,
because of what I look like, because I spoke about
their heroes, and because they saw that man standing right there, strong.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Did they question the because we had never seen this before,
not so not so public, not so present. Did they
question you and his relationship.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Be and my husband. Yes, when you say questions, what
is like? Because they did. But I want to understand what.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Because okay, did they think that was your husband or what?
Was he your manager? Because he's been everything, he's your lover,
he's your manager, he's your whatever. He's all encompassing. Yes,
he's a toolbox with all the tools that Monique needs,
all of them. And so when I heard people saying

(28:43):
that why is he there? Why does he have to
be in every interview? Why does he have to be
in the background, Why can't Monique do that? Why not?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Why not? Why not? And that's when you see and
these are my sisters. But when you see Taraji, when
you see Viola, when you see our sisters speaking out,
you never see their representation sitting right there with them.
You never see them saying, listen, we gotta fight together.
My husband is also my manager, which is my representation.

(29:14):
But again, we've been so beat down that some of
us have a problem with this black man saying I'm
standing right here, strong and I will not flinch and
I will not budge. What a sad state of affairs
we are now in where you have people that look
like you and I that would question why this man
is standing there that, for the life of me, it's

(29:37):
disheartening when we heard brother Malcolm say, we've been running unk,
we've been hoodwinked. We're now doing it to ourselves. We're
now doing it to ourselves. So when you said Monique,
it was different because we had never seen that before
you said their names. Let me say this, I'm not

(29:59):
the first one, right, I'm not the first one. But
we get washed away in history so easily that we
start thinking, oh, this is the first one. This is
the first one. Her name is Claudete Covin, and she's
not the first one, but she was before Rosa Parks.
But because Claudete Covin did not fit the picture that
they thought she should look like. She was dark skinned

(30:22):
and she had coarse hair, and because the organization, I
believe it was the NAACP did not think she would
be accepted by the white people. They had to get
somebody that they said the white people could accept. We
keep repeating the same thing because what I said is

(30:42):
no different than what anyone else is saying, not at all. Right,
it was the messenger, and it was the way that
I'm not putting my head down, I'm not shedding one tear.
I'm not gonna say I don't want to say they
name because I might get in trouble. I'm gonna say
all of it right because when you really think about
that little girl coming behind you, what I don't ever

(31:04):
want that baby to see is me broken. I don't
want her to see me falling apart. And I understand it.
I understand how it can happen, Shannon, when you may
not have a foundation at home, when you may not
have that man at home or that woman at home
homever that support person saying you're not crazy. I got you.
Come on, we're gonna go do this. We're gonna get

(31:26):
through this. So for us, if we start taking things
but what they are and get out of our emotions,
we would be so far alone.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Do you believe punishment? Punishment is not only meant for
the perpetrator, but it's also to deter others from said
acts you said? Do you believe the punishment that was
bestowed upon Monique was not only to punish you, but
to deter others from saying what you say?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well, Shannon, see hit and I'm gonna answer that. But
sometimes we act like we don't know our history. See
back in the day, when they had us some chains
they would beat one real good in front of the others,
and they let everybody know what you don't want is
that type of ass whooping. So what they said was,
we're gonna beat Monique really good, We're gonna sit her down,

(32:23):
and I made it public. Financially, my family took a hit, Shannon,
And when I tell you we took a hit, we
took a hit. So when you see our sister go
through that, you see her go through, and we act
like our eyes didn't see what it saw when we
watched that promotion happen with the color purple, we wanted
to act like we didn't see how Oprah Winfrey treated

(32:45):
to Raji. And my humble opinion, when you saw her
walk up, you saw that there was tension. You saw
that there was something happening. And then when you see
Taraji write her a love letter, it's like, listen, we
gotta stand tall and stand strong on what we know.
We know you were mistreated, we know it wasn't right,
we know it was unfair. And then you turn around

(33:08):
and say, oh, but lady Oh handled it. I have
a problem with that. I have a problem with that
because that allows Lady Jo to keep on doing what
she's doing, and we're in a position of I don't
want to say nothing because we saw how Monique got whooped.
Now again, that's just my humble opinion, but I don't
know what else to I don't know how else to

(33:28):
frame that. It's like, listen, you better fix that because
you saw what they did to her, you saw how
they treated her.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Is it a situation? Do you believe it's a situation
that Oprah might have faced something similar that maybe wasn't
as public as you and she's looking at it. Well,
if I faced that, went through it and came out
on the other side and look at me, it should
be okay, because sometimes we get that with parents. You know,
I struggle, You say, my kids should have to struggle sometimes. Also,

(33:58):
do you think that might be something going on with
her or you're just like, there's a disconnect.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
There's a disconnect. Okay, there's a disconnect, and there's been
a disconnect for years. There's a disconnect. And I think
what happens is we place people on these pedestals and
we say, oh no, you can't do no wrong. We
don't even want to hear it. And when you hear
Kat say, you know what, they do, they don't say anything,
and they act like it didn't happen. I'm gonna keep

(34:25):
talking until you take accountability, until you say, uncle, I've
done this. That's why it was so important, from Oprah
Winfrey to Tyler Perry Lee Daniels. Now, Lee Daniels was
the only one I had to deal with. Did you
see Lee Daniels apologize? He walked out on the stage.

(34:48):
Not only did he apologize on stage, that man apologized
to our children. That man apologized to our children and
said I need to apologize for what I put y'all through.
He's the only one I had to deal with. However,
it became a problem with Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry
that I wouldn't do something and work for free. Now,

(35:10):
when you say, well, maybe Oprah Field's like she came
through it. Why can't you Well, there's a story with
Oprah Winfrey. When she was on the show. People are
talking Richard Chaer was making fifty five thousand dollars. She
was making twenty two thousand dollars. These are her words.
It was her co host. She said, I had to
leave because they wasn't paying me fairly. Now, you say

(35:32):
black women who did nothing wrong, and you're in the
midst of this situation because she called me. Tyler Perry
called me, Lionsgate called. When you were on the phone
with my husband, you said, I agree with Monique. I
agree with the position she's taking. But when it came

(35:55):
time to say it out loud, Oprah Winfrey went totally silent. Now,
to Perry's credit, Tyler Perry called us up right, and
he said, I can see the pain in you and
I can hear it, and I want to let you
know that I would never do nothing to hurt you.
But the conversation kept going on, only for Tyler Perry

(36:17):
to admit he did start a rumor that I was
difficult to work with. He lied, only for Tyler Perry
to admit I was wrong. And when my movie Boo
come out, I'm gonna say that right now. Here's where
when you did that interview with Kat, I could respect
how you do it, because Kat said you let them

(36:39):
people lie in your face, and your response to was Kat,
I don't know if they're lying or not, because I
can only take them at their word the word right.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well, we sent you the audio of Tyler Perry, I
don't want you to take me at my word. I
want you to hear his word. And what did you
hear that man saying? What did you hear that man saying?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
He said?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
What did he say?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Is that money? You know you're not supposed to be
recording people?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
No, no, no, no, let me back up. Everything we
did was legal. And here's where a black woman really
gets the kick in the ass. Had I not recorded
Tyler Perry, then it would have been my word against his,
and then on top of that, it would have been
he's so powerful we can't even pay no attention to that. Well,

(37:35):
now I have him on audio, which is legal to
do where we live, right, Okay, we have him on audio,
and do you know what? Some people then said, why
would you record him? Just like you said there and said,
you know what's unleegal to But did you hear what
the man said? I violated you. I mistreated you. Do

(37:57):
you know, Shannon? That's cost my family tens of millions
of dollars? Yeah, over a lie and a rumor.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is he gonna is he gonna make a car? He's
gonna compensate you for that?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I want you to look in your camera, yes, and
I want you to talk to Tyler Perry because you
heard what that man said, So ask him, will he
compensate my family for that?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Tyler? Will you come on club Shay Shay, and let's
have a conversation about the fair compensation for what transpired
between you and Monique. You can sit right here, and
she's sitting right here, and you and I can have
a conversation.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
And well do you want better? And give me five
on that? Baby? Where do you want better? Shade my
husband and I'll sit right next to him. See, with
this whole situation, and some of the people that Kat
talked about, ironically, I have issues with those same people.
There were people that reached out to Tyler Perry on

(38:49):
my behalf, okay, and I was grateful for that. Okay.
There was Al Sharpton, the Reverend Al Sharpton, civil rights leader. Yeah,
I sent him that audio. He listened to it. He said, baby,
what that man did to you is wrong, and you're
like my daughter, and we're gonna have to get him
to fix that.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
We didn't hear from Al Sharpton for six months. The
next time we saw Al Sharpton, he was on a
podium talking about we don't need to fly commercial because
we can fly Tyler Perry's private jet. I said, that's why.
Maybe I'm not hearing back from him. Okay. Then we
had our beautiful sister, Stephanie Mills. Yes, okay, who is

(39:31):
she don't play?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Right? I told her what happened since her the audio.
Now don't know if she listened to that audio or not.
But however, she called Tyler Perry. She said, Monique, Tyler
Perry does not want to revisit this. Okay, fine. While
we're on the phone, Tyler Perry calls her back and says,
I will meet with Monique, but not with her husband.

(39:53):
And you ready for this? And now Monique has to
apologize publicly to say Oprah and I had nothing to
do with messing up her.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Career, but that'd be a lie. Looking at goddamn camera,
I thought I thought that was a stage the way
you look at the camera.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yes, because you heard it, yes, right, yes, So when
you have when you hear what this man is saying,
So I said, Stephanie, tell Tyler Perry, never will I
meet with him without my husband. And I owe no apology,
so I'm not gonna give one that goes away, Kevin Hart. Now,
you know when Kat Williams said Gatekeepers, Yes, Kevin Hart,

(40:34):
I do his podcast, yes, and I want you all
to re listen to the podcast so you can hear
it for yourself. When he first comes on, he says,
you're like my mother, You're like my aunt, you're like
my sister. Okay. Then we do the podcast. We speak
about the Tyler Perry situation Oprah Winfrey. He said, I

(40:55):
don't really know Oprah, but I'm gonna reach out to Tyler.
I appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out
to Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe
a week or so later. He said, MO, I talked
to Tyler. He said, he don't want to revisit it.
He said, but I tell you what, let's move past
that mod. Let's just move past that and let's just

(41:16):
do great things. So whatever now, I want you to
hear me, Kevin Hart, Let's move past that mod. Let's
do some great things together. Don't even worry about it.
Whatever y'all want to do, I will partner with you.
I'll executive produce with you. You just let me know
what you want to do now let me say that
before we go any further, because I want to make
sure I give Kevin Hart his proper credit. When my

(41:38):
family was up against the wall, Kevin Hart wrote us
a check and said, here you go. We're forever grateful
for that. When we were able to give it back,
we said, brother, we appreciate you with some interest on top,
because I don't ever want nobody to think me and
my husband, So I want to make sure I put
that out there that brother really helped us out when
we needed to be helped out. Then when he came
back with I got you. I didn't ask Kevin Heart

(42:01):
to do anything. He said, our executive produce, I'll partner
with you. I said, good shit, Kevin, because we're in
a deal with in Demoll and we're trying to get
our talk show back.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
MO.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Whatever it is, I got you. Now. Kevin Hart is
one of the biggest entertainers right now in the world
right and was Then we got off the phone with
Kevin Hart. We called in de Mall immediately and said,
Kevin Hast said whatever we want to do, he got us.
He's gonna partner executive use. They was like, oh, this
is incredible because when you put Kevin Hart name on it,

(42:31):
you already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Two weeks go by, we get a call from in
deomol In Demo says, we just got a call from
Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky, and Dave Becky said, Kevin
doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she
told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with nothing.
You know, he doesn't want any any kind of relationship
with Monique.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So what changed between the two weeks and when? And
plus he gave your check, you gave the money back,
then said he would partner with you executive produce whatever
you need more? Hey, we got you. So what transpired
or what do you think transpired between then that two
week period?

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Well, soon as we got off the phone and they
told us what Kevin manager, David Becky said, I called
Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got
off the phone with end Demorrow And they said, Dave
Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything
to do with me. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication.
I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute,
are you okay, toh with this white man calling them up?

(43:29):
Getting in between our relationship. Something you said. He said, Mo,
that's a miscommunication and we're gonna talk tuesday. Don't worry
about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication
that was two years ago. If you talked to him,
I talked to him. I've never talked back to Kevin
Hart again. So that's what we're faced with when you

(43:50):
allow somebody to come in between a relationship with a
woman that you said, I'm like your mother. You said
them like these things. I didn't ask you for that.
So everything that baby was saying sitting here, everything he
was saying was on the up and up. Because when
you hear people say get the anger out your heart,
Oh man, no one's saying he's lying. No one ever

(44:11):
said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and
devalue because of what we look like. However, when it
comes to Tyler Perry, I will not allow you to
discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio.
Remember on Good Times when Penny's mother was whooping up

(44:32):
on you and she had recorded it. That's you one tape.
So how does it go from you saying you're going
to give me an apology to now, I owe you
an apology.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
But what are you an apology for?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
What could I possibly owe you an apology for when
you've admitted See when Lee Daniel says to me, because
Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role.
Now to Roger baby it listen here, however, I was
offered that then felid to call me back and say,

(45:06):
baby girl, they said you're too difficult to work with.
But you here on an audio that a man told
David Talbert, I was difficult to work with. Do you
see how that cost my family?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
And with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry. No,
you've got to be accountable for that. Oprah Winford, You've
got to be accountable for the things you've done with
my family. You've got to be accountable for that.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you
and Oprah currently?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:37):
No, But I thought there was an apology. I read that.
I thought I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you
an apology and Tyler had issued an apology.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
That's not correct. No, No, the.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Only person that's given you an apology saw it.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's Lee Daniels. That's the only person. So we are
in a place where we're too afraid to call him
for what it is. We're too afraid to say, if
it looked like a duck in the quack like a duck,
what is it, Shannon, It's a duck. So again you

(46:12):
see the struggle of the black woman. As I'm sitting
here talking to you and you say, Mogul, why would
you record him? But you heard the man violate me.
The first thing wasn't I can't believe that cat did
that to you? It's why would you do it? And
we understand it because we've been conditioned that.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Way because when you you had to get somehow, because
when you're telling people these are lies, nobody is believing Monique.
So now even though you have him record his voice
and that's him and he's saying he made it up,
now it's no longer, Oh man, I can't believe he

(46:49):
lied on mo more. Why do you record it? So
now they're putting the owner's back on you.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Where's the win? How do we win? How does a
black woman win? When you say here, he is right here.
And I'll look to the community and say, how long
do we allow us to keep being exploited, used up,
taking advantage of, and because we think somebody can give
us an opportunity, we just say, I'm not gonna say nothing.

(47:18):
If we keep operating like that, Shannon, You're gonna have
a whole lot of us sitting right here in this
same seat, almost telling the same story.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Why do you think Tyler is afraid to meet with
you and your husband? Why does it need to be
you one on one when he meet with other representatives
and their client. What is it about you that he
feels it needs to be just you? And he does
he think your husband is some kind of negative influence
on you. He thinks the husband is saying things that

(47:49):
Monique probably wouldn't say if I just had had an
opportunity to talk to her one on one. What do
you think that is?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Let me say, yes, people better be glad my husband
is by my side because they have people in Hollywood
that know wherever you act up is where I show up.
People know in Hollywood, baby, Shayna. And I don't say
it with a badge of honor, It's just what it is. Well,
I've had to say who you think you talking to?
And we're sitting there with the President of the studio

(48:15):
or the my patience level, it's not gonna allow. I've
been molested, I've been violated. So the moment I see
you trying to do it, we're gonna have to address it.
My husband is nothing but a gentleman. And you know
why people have a problem with my husband because he
right to it. There's no we're gonna dance around the bush.
He's right to it. And people like Tyler Perry, people

(48:38):
like Oprah Winfrey, they look at my husband and say,
how dare you be so direct? How dare you not
put your eyes down when you're talking to me? How
dare you do that? My husband is also my manager.
Why would he want to exclude my management. It's like Tyler,
you should want my husband to be there. You may
want him to be sitting right there so that way

(49:00):
we can have a conversation that everyone can be heard.
But I appreciate you, Shannon, because most people are too
afraid that's heard the tape. They're too afraid to say, no,
I heard it and this is what he said. I
appreciate Ts Madison because Ts Madison was the first one

(49:22):
to say no, I heard what he said. So when
folks were trying to jump on her. She knocked down
for the black woman. Listen, baby, y'all don't even understand
the fights that says to be having when ain't nobody
watching for the black woman?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
So I appreciate you looking in that camera.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Well, I mean, look, sometimes there's some some black people,
some not all. Some that my grandfather used to say, MO,
is that if you're not careful, you'll become the very
thing you despise the most of the person. Now, what
do we despise most about Trump supporters president ex President
Trump is that no no matter what he says, no

(50:01):
matter what he does, they give him an out. There's
some people in our community, no matter what powerful black
people say or do in our community, will give them
an out. And we can't, and we've become the very
thing we despise the most. What we despise most about
President Trump's ex President Trump support us is that no
matter what he does or says, it's okay, Yes, we

(50:23):
can't do that. You can't. We can't if somebody is wrong,
Like you said, MO, if somebody is wrong, we have
to be man or woman enough to say they're wrong,
regardless of what comes along with.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
That they don't know, They don't understand what them saying
i'm sorry will mean for them. See when I.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Read this, because that's not for you and I'm sorry.
It's not for the person that you offended. It's for
you because currently you're in hostage your feelings because you
have to live with that. You know that what you've done.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
So when you see a woman say me turning seventy,
I'm so happy because I've never heard anyone stop it.
Stop it because there's a black woman that has been
calling your name for over a decade that you seem
to want to make go away. And I know I'm
not the only one.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Would would you sit if Oprah called MO today, would
you sit down and have a conversation with her?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Let me tell you what I'll do if Oprah call
me today, Shannon Sharp, we will sit down and have
a conversation with Oprah Winfrey. We will sit down and
have a conversation with Tyler Perry. We will sit down
and have a conversation with the presidents of lions Gate.
We will sit down and have a conversation with anyone
that is I'm gonna say brave enough to sit down
and have a conversation. But what happens is within seconds,

(51:38):
within seconds, if Tyler Perry was to sit right here,
you will say, man, I heard you. What you trying
to tell me about the system. Within seconds, Oprah Winfrey
would know that. People would say, hold up. See when
I speak about Oprah Winfrey, and let me be clear,
I love that sister because she's our sister. She just

(51:59):
got to come back across the street. We got the
light on. When I speak about Oprah Winfrey, I speak
about that woman because she's spoken about me. And when
you begin to speak about me privately, I'm gonna speak
about you publicly. You've been unfair, you've been unjust, and

(52:21):
you watched the black woman be thrown under the bus
and you said nothing. And here's what's interesting as well.
My husband was saying to me after I won the
Oscar Award, right and she had the people come, you know,
to talk to the Oscar winners, and I go on
the stage and I talk to the Oscar winners. Well,

(52:41):
when we go to a commercial, the people in the
audience and I say this humbly. As my husband was
telling me, he said, Mama, they wasn't screaming Oprah. They
were screaming Monique right so much so I had to say,
y'all gonna shut that shit up. Now we get ready
to go back on the ad. We having fun, right,
he said, But I watched Oprah. He said that I

(53:03):
watched her almost turning her seat like they screaming her name. Now,
some people will say, oh, Monique, are you reaching? Well,
let me tell you what then happens the movie The Butler.
That movie was offered to me. Lee Daniels came out
and said, I did offer Monik the Butler, But as

(53:24):
he said to me, he said, Moe, at the time,
I didn't have no power and I didn't have no money.
So when Oprah says she wanted it, so who played
the lead role in The Butler? Oprah Winfrey? Lee Daniels
was getting ready to do a bio pic on Richard Pryor,
and he offered me the grandmother, who then calls Lee

(53:45):
Daniels and says, I want to be the grandmother. So
as you're looking at me, it's the same way I'm
looking at that sister, and I'm saying, why don't we
sit down and have a conversation, because the way things
could look, it may not be that way. But just
the way things look, Oprah, just the way you would

(54:06):
have my family on your show. Oprah.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
One might say, mo, well, I mean if the roller
they're looking for a black.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Big go ahead and say sharing it's okayful with his words,
he wants say fat black woman. If the role looking
for a fat black woman. Mom, You're like, you know,
this is why we love you, Uncle Shae, shape, because
we want you to say a fat black woman. Now, men, Oprah,
fit the damn description shape fat black? Don't we fit it?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
You do? But I'll be right back here to me.
I'll be your neighbor up there where you live.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
At Listen here, listen here, listen here. So so are
you lying?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I'm not gonna have your big ass sit in here
in the Hall of Fame and you're scared to say
shit okay, And I want to excuse myself Andy the
babies that might be watching this, because I wasn't gonna
say no spicy things, but shay shaye, get me wrong. Now,
come on, a shack.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
One might say, or people might say, well, mo, I
mean the role called for a heavenset black woman, you, Oprah,
y'all fit the roles yes, how do we know that
she wasn't off of the role at long and people
think that she's better, more and more qualified than you.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
It don't work like that, Shannon. You can't offer me
once you say, I want you, right, that's what it is. Okay, Okay,
But I don't have the money to fund a production.
I don't have the connections to go to the studio
and say, listen, I want to do this movie. She does.
So when Lee says, hey, baby, she got the money,

(55:43):
go get it. But someone would just say, how is
that working out like that? How's that happening like that?
How is it that things that was offered to Monique
you seem to be playing now. I told Oprah about that.
See everything we're saying to you right now.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
He was having a conversation here.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I don't play the behind the back. I don't play that.
I'm gonna share with share. There's one thing I will
share with you that I'm not shared with anybody. But
I don't play there behind the back and all of that.
I say, listen, let me try to get to you first.
Now if you avoid me, okay, But I tried to
be respectful. I tried to call you first, when she

(56:21):
had my family on her show. I tried to call
you first. I tried to talk to you privately, but
then you became the great, the great, mighty Oprah Winfrey,
and you were too busy to talk. Well, now I'm
gonna talk about it. This woman has overstepped with me
so in so many ways that somebody would say if

(56:41):
we wasn't Monique and Oprah Winfrey in the entertainment business,
and we was Monique and Oprah Winfrey that worked at Coshco.
I see you in the breakthron, I see edge cash
register because she's overstepped.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Wow. So I don't know, mo, Nikki. This might be
the term crossing of the rubicon. We might be going
too far. I can't.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
How do you if you feel that way, because clearly,
if you feel this way, now I get why you
feel this way. I don't know. Like I said, I
don't know this, don't. I'm taking you at your word,
not not the title, because I've listened to the audio. Yes,
I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about Oprah. Yes,
I'm just taking you at your word. Yes, if you
feel this way, is it possible she feels the exact

(57:30):
same way about you.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
How could she? How could she? What have I taken
from Oprah? When did I have Oprah's mother and father
on my show? When did I have anybody come and
speak about Oprah Winfrey on the Monique Show. That's never happened.
So how could she feel that way? Would you have
done that had her family? Or yeah, let me tell

(57:51):
you how we operate. When we had the Monique Show,
there was a comedian on that and he was trying
to joke t I's wife tiny. My husband walked out
in the middle of his set. He said cut. He said, brother,
we don't do that here. We uplift our folks. We
don't play that. So no, I would not have done

(58:12):
that when Oprah Winfrey had my family. And I'll tell y'all,
and I'm looking over. I'm looking around, baby, because they
have people here, yes, okay, And I don't want to
be rude to the people at Shase Shay's club. You
got other people in the club. Right, When Oprah Winfrey
called me up and she said, I got a call
from your brother. And then this is after I won

(58:33):
the Oscar Ward right, and your brother wants to come
on the show, and he wants to apologize to you
for molesting you, and he wants to tell other people
how to look out for a predator. I said, Oprah,
I said, I don't want anything to do with that cat.
I said, but and then she said, well, if you

(58:53):
want me to scratch the show, I will scratch it.
I said, Sis, don't scratch it because he could be
a different person, and I don't want to get in
the way if that cat is a different person. I
just don't want no parts of it, right, Okay. When
I hung up that phone, Shannon, I was like, I
appreciate that sister, like she didn't have to call me.

(59:14):
She didn't have to call me, and said, I have
your brother. I stopped seeing commercials with my mother and
my father and my other brother who used to be
my manager, who knew the fear that I had with
the brother that was up on stage right. We never
talked about my mother being there.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
He never told you that you.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Know how you feel about your.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Grandparents, Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
You know the honor and how you speak about them.
Imagine you done seeing your granddaddy and your grandmama on
a show and they're talking about somebody that violated you
and that woman didn't tell you that they were going
to be there. How would you feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I would feel like you feel like you felt betrayed.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
That is exactly how I felt and how I feel.
And it's not oh, I'm in a no, I understand it,
But you portrayed me, sister, and I'm not the only
one God.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
At the time when she called you, she said it
was just your brother.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Just my brother. And when my mother was on that shoulder,
you know what I had to deal with, Shannon, What's that.
I would be in the store and I would have
elderly women coming up to me and they would say,
your mama ain't shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Now they wasn't lying, Shannon. Okay, they wasn't lying. Baby.
Sometimes you gotta let the truth be the god damn truth.
Sometime you got to just go with it. But still,
it's my mother and I'm in hand because when she
I'm having to defend something. And I got that often
with them telling me what my mother wasn't because you

(01:00:58):
did not tell me. Had Oprah Winfrey said I'm gonna
have your mama, I'd have said, shut that shit right.
I don't need nobody seeing my mama be greedy. I
don't need the world see shut it down. Now there's
a white woman named Barbara Walters. They called her first,
and she said, Monique, I told your family I can't

(01:01:18):
do that to you. I wouldn't do that to you.
You just won that award. Like, why would I do that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yeah? This, I mean, you're here. Why would I bring
something that I know that you don't want to talk about?
You lived it. Why do I need to replay it again?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Ask her? You came a right there, baby, Ask her.
See this is where you get juicy, right, because you're
you're you're saying the right things, but you're asking me
questions that I can't answer. I can't answer why Oprah
Winfrey did what Oprah Winfrey did. Only Oprah Winfrey can
answer for her actions. So again, stop being scared. No,

(01:01:59):
I knew that would get him my line. I knew that.
I'm back in baby, I knew that again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
But even this show, I have a producer, and I
give him a lot of leadway, but I've had people
reach out and say, well, a family member saying something,
and I want to come on your show and refute it.
That is what we do here, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
It's like it's almost you don't cross that barrier.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Don't do the family thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
You don't do the family thing. And I'm gonna bring
this up. I wasn't gonna do it, but damn it,
this is this seat, this sea makes you go truth,
tell it. No, tell the damn truth. Damn to tell
the truth. Because family is sacred.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
It's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And we don't cross the line with family. And people
begin to get comfortable to jump on the monique bandwagon
of money doing things wrong. And she's doing this and
she's doing that. And there's a brother named Dale Hughley yep,
and until he take accountability, I won't let it go.

(01:03:09):
What because what would you get? Ray say?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I was gonna say, what did d L do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Let me change? Baby? That voice went not. Didn't d
L his friend? He like, that's my friend?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
No, I've met Deal on several occasions. I don't know
Dal like that. Do I know d L? Say like
I know an earthquake? No? Do I know? Since I've
interviewed Kat, had several conversations with him, Do I know
DL on that level? No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Right, See, when we say family is sacred, right, family
is sacred, and we know that you don't cross the
line when it comes to family. Correct, right, I do
DL's radio show. Yes, Dal Hugely is not there, his
team is there, and Shannon. We having a great time.
I mean, baby, we having a great time. We going

(01:03:58):
for it, back and forth. When we get to the
end of the show, they said, you want to play
a game? Well, I want to play? I said, sure,
a sugar, Let's play a game. And it's a game
called would you rather?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Okay, now, Monique, you already you should have said I'm
too old for this game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Wait, man, we're having fun, baby, right, we're having a
good time sharing it. Okay, we I mean it's the
sister that and it's two other guys. We're having a
great time. It's a beautiful black uriney cookout. We're having
a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Would you say your wife was your family? Is that
considered family?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So your husband is considered stading. Okay, So here we go.
They said, Monique, we want to play a game of
would you rather? Let's go would you rather your husband
sleep with Lee Daniels with a condom or Krinne Stephens
without one? Really, Monique, Now, as y'all are watch and

(01:05:00):
right now, we haven't heard this doing. Y'all going, they're
doing the same thing in the studio. They're going, I
can that is exactly what happened. Now. I said to
the team, how does that uplift our community? I said,
sister and her name is Jasmine, How could you ask
another sister that? Well, we just planned, I said, tell

(01:05:21):
me the joke and that because I don't know what
you're insinuating, then you're involving people that have nothing to
do with nothing, like what are y'all doing? So I said,
I'm gonna call my brother d L. I'm going to
call my brother. I call d L. Hughley on the phone.
I say, hey, baby, yeah huh. That's how he responds,

(01:05:46):
yeah you yes, he because they called him to tell
hypno Moniq's gonna be calling like this. It was getting crazy.
I'm like, just let me get on the phone with
my brother, right Hey, d L. Yeah, I said, listen,
I just got off the phone with your team and
they wanted to play this game, would you rather? And
it was like stupid, like ask me about my husband

(01:06:10):
and Lee Daniels and Karen Stephens and his exact words, Well,
that's how we do it, I said, d O how
does that uplift our community? And again, I don't know
what y'all trying to insinuate, but brother, what you doing,
Like I said, that's just how we do it. So
it is what it is now. It got so ugly
that my attorney had to send a cease and desist

(01:06:33):
so it never aired. So we have like when Kat
Williams talk and people truth tell Us talk, we have
receipts to everything we're saying. That's how that whole thing
got started. Okay, it's family. My husband is my family. Yeah,
now you babies that are really good with this internet.
Through the years, I've watched DL speak ill of me

(01:06:55):
through the years. I never knew me. I never knew
Dale Higley had a problem with me. But when Cassay
all a group, he forgot to put d O hugely
in the group. Through the years, I was bitter. I
was dangerous with what I was doing, saying that it
was inequality. My husband didn't know what he was doing.
This went on through the years. I was unloved all

(01:07:15):
of these things, and I said to myself, I'm gonna
see you. I'm gonna see you. I didn't go on
nobody's show. I didn't say nothing to nobody, but I
knew the time would come that I would see him.
Were scheduled to do a show in Los Angeles. I
was the headliner of that show. His name was on it.

(01:07:36):
Then his name came off. I didn't question it, but
I knew I'm gonna see him right eventually. Okay, Now
we have a show in Detroit. Contractually I was the headliner.
D O. Hugley posted a memo. Now, when you signed
your deal for the Ravens, did you sign a contract
or memorandum?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I signed a contract.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
You see how you say that? Like anybody that knows
good business, you signed the memo was saying this is
what I would like, But the contract is saying this
is what it is. Okay. He put out a memo
to our community, and that touched me a little different
because I was saying, why would you lie to our babies,
Because now they're thinking if they send somebody a memo,

(01:08:20):
that's what they're supposed to get. Okay. I was contractually
signed to go as the headliner, right do Yo hugely
didn't come into the building until nine thirty. Now, contractually
I said I have to be on stage by nine
thirty because if the show starts at eight, I refuse
to keep an audience waiting. That is disrespectful to the board.

(01:08:43):
When I went out on that stage, Shannon, I made
sure everything I said he heard me, because now you're
here and I'm going to say it to you. And
I said some things on that stage that I said
he was cowardly, and some folks said, how could you
say that? How could you do that? And then I
posted some things to say, this is what I meant. See.

(01:09:05):
You came after my husband, and when you had a
chance to fix it, when you had a chance to say,
mo my bad. You know we don't even get down
like that. You told me it is what it is.
And until he's brave enough and courageous enough to say
this is what really happened, y'all have never known me
to be no shit starter. Folks ain't never known me

(01:09:27):
to go and kick a sandwich out on somebody's hand
it's hungry. But what people do know is if you
kick me, damn if I ain't gonna kick you back,
because that's fair play. So there was one left out
the pack. And when you have people that continually don't
take accountability, that's why you see us in the state

(01:09:47):
of affairs we're in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I'm a firm believera mode that everybody don't play the same.
And someone once told me, what is joke to you
as death to someone else?

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
What is joke? That's why we we don't play with
people's families. Oh, we had the monich Show, the radio show. Listen.
You can't come on here and speak ill of no
one because we don't play like that, because we know
how this business works. So when you allow that to happen,
what do you think is gonna come back your way?
What do you think? And D. L. Higley? Please, no, brother,

(01:10:20):
we still love you. Just take accountability for it and
we move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I remember reading something about the situation in Detroit. I
didn't know the depth of the magnitude of it. I
remember meeting something about a memo about I guess it's
an agendum that was added on. But the contract is
the contract.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
The contract is the contract. And what happens is because
of the messenger. It was easy to pile on. It
was easy to pile on. And then when you have
out some of our black folk that go sit in
front of a white man and speak ill of their people.
I'm like, yoll, what are we doing? What are we doing?
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
What are we coming to? That We're gonna sit in
front of this white man. I can't even say his name.
I refuse everybody know who he is. We sit in
front of him and we just let this man say
any and everything about us, and then we go right
in with him. That now, see that to me is dangerous.
And y'all, babies, that's good with this little computer, don't

(01:11:22):
take my word. You can just go through the years
of this cat just running his mouth and it's like,
stop doing that, because what are we saying to the
babies coming behind us?

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
We're gonna continue this, but I want to get into
where you're from. The DMV. Yeah, do you realize, like Chappelle, Martin,
Tommy Davis, an earthquake yourself? What's in the soil in
the DMV that got you guys? I mean you've done television,
stand up. All these guys have done television and stand
up and are great at it. When you look at

(01:11:55):
like Chappelle, Chappelle walked away, like walked away from and said, nah,
I want to do my own thing because I'm not
gonna let you guys hold me Oscar. Yes, but Martin
still does television. Tommy Davidson doesn't do as much television.
Quake is not in television, but he has, you know,
have this all his gigs going on. When you look
at the success that a Chappelle, Martin Earthquakes habit, and

(01:12:15):
you said, hold on, and none of them guys went
on Oscar and none of them guys did what I
did and on the movie set, and they're having the
commercial sense that there's a habit that should be more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
If I was a white woman, do you know what
my name would be? Wealthy Melissa McCarthy, Oh, my goodness.
If I was a white woman, my name Melissa McCarthy,
same track record, five year sitcom and syndication, same track record.
The opportunities are not the same. So when you have it,

(01:12:52):
and as you read all of those things of me,
you said, way a minute, mo, none of them have this,
None of them have that. We get judged by a
different stick. We could judged by different stick. And then
when I had people judging me, I'm like, you judging
me by your yard stick. You've not done what I've done.
And I say that humbly. You've not had the accomplishments
that I had. When I hear brother Di, y'all will

(01:13:12):
huguly say, well, that netflix special. I just accepted anything
whatever they gave me. These are not my words, they're his. Well,
that's how you do business. I'm not mad at you
accepting anything. Why are you mad at me saying I
won't accept anything. That's the difference. It's like people were
judging me. I was having people sharing, Okay, I didn't

(01:13:35):
know we had so many tender people in our group.
I didn't know we had so many tender love. I
didn't know we had so many tender people. And I
wouldn't want to be on the front line with these
tender people where it's like, oh, I can't believe you
said that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
But it's what I said, the truth. It's what I said,
the truth. No, I didn't put no sugar on it.
It was shit right, and I didn't try to make
it taste good. We gotta stop running away from what
is real and we run into fantasy. And that's how
come we keep staying where we sit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
MO before you became Monique, that everybody has seen over
the last two three decades. What were some of the
jobs that you had that you like? Man, this ain't
for me. I knew this is just a holdover. You're
just a breeze.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Every job I had, baby, it was special. Wasn't every
job I had?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Let me tell you something. I worked at the drive
through in Popeye's. I worked in the drive through in Pope's.
And that was my microphone. Every time somebody came to
that window, I was on stage, Welcome to Pope's. My
name is Monique. What would you like today? And they
would say, Hey Monique, I'm Shanning. Hey Shanning. How you
doing baby? What's your order? And you give me your order?
And then I say, would you like a high apple

(01:14:46):
pie with that's sharing it? You say, you know what?
Mo nig I shure it was. Come on around here, baby,
listen here Pope's win my damn money, cause I was
a seller. Baby. If you wanted the two piece, I
gave you four hmhm you. We wasn't gonna lose no
way coming do my damn window share. That's why I
ain't lost no damn weight. What I saw like if

(01:15:07):
you got two pieces, I hate too up. Welcome by hi, baby,
come on now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
That was That was your microphone? That was that was
the beginning of Monique because you was owning. Did you
know that's what you were doing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
What I knew I was doing was walking in my dream.
The microphone said it's possible. When I stood in my
bathroom mirror and I wrapped the towel around me and
it didn't go all the way, I wasn't devastated. Okay,
I don't know if they just didn't have enough money
to buy me a whole damn towel, but I would
still stand and that was my gown right and I

(01:15:48):
would pick up that brush and I would say, I
wouldn't like to think, so I've always seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Did you always know that you were? You?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Was Oscar always in the back of your mind? Did
you always Oscar? Was never in my mind?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
You just wanted to be in TV. You want to
be in show business? What aspect did you want to do?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I wanted to be famous. I loved what it looked
like with people being famous. I didn't know to say
I want to be wealthy with the fame. I didn't
know to be specific to ask for it, but I
wanted to be famous.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Who did you know that looked like Monique, that was
famous Oprah Winfrey.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
So do you see how far this relationship goes. That's
who I knew that looked like me. See, I didn't
when people always asked me about the Oscar, right, but
no one ever asked me about the Image Award. No
one ever said to me, what did it feel like
when they called your name for the NAACP Image Award

(01:16:50):
And they were people that looked like me? Because we
put so much weight on that award that we it's
such an honor, and it's an honor for any award,
not just that one. But as a little girl, I
never watched the Oscars because nobody looked like me. So
I was like, this is not for me all. But
when I watched the Image Award, baby, those people look

(01:17:11):
like me. The BET Awards, those people look like me.
So I was honored the first time they called my
name for an Image Award. When I tell you, sharnon
that night, baby, when they can call this little fat
girl name from Baltimore and the winner goes to the
walk goes to Monique, Well listen here, I got so
good with him calling my name, and this is what

(01:17:32):
had to humble me. You will get humble baby when
you just think they get ready to call your name.
I had wont it like three years in a row.
This the fourth year. Oh hey, you ain't now again.
Let me situate myself and my chair. So here come
the category. Hey baby, the best accress in the sitcom.

(01:17:56):
They named me Tisha Campbell, and I cannot remember the sisters, right,
I know they get ready to say and the award
goes to Monique. So I got to because I'm a
big girl. You got to screwed up so you can
be ready to push up, right. So I screwed up
and get my down together. And the winner is Tea,
said Campbell. I said, all right, girl, want to get

(01:18:17):
that wholelass? Is that right back down? But it was
never the oscar for me, baby, It was never the
oscar for me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
So how did stand up happen?

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Stand up happened on a dare. My brother came home
one day and said he went down to the comedy
club to do open mic night and he did so bad.
He said they was boring me. But I was six
beers in, so I thought the booze was applause. So
my boy had to say man, this is stinking right.

(01:18:50):
So we cleaning out the pool, and he says, I said,
if I was there, I would have said And that
was thirty minutes of what I would have said. Then
he said, I dare you to go down next Wednesday
and do open mic night. It was a club called
Burke's in Baltimore. I went down that next Wednesday. She
and I got a standing ovation and from that moment

(01:19:12):
to this moment, were you hooked?

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
I was?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
I was. It is nothing like and I'm sure you
can appreciate it. Understand when you walk out on that
football field and you walk and you smell it, and
you walking into it, and you that little boy and
you says I'm here, I'm still there. That little girl
in me is still saying I'm here. But I'm a

(01:19:38):
grown woman, right and I'm saying now that I'm here,
you got to pay for it fairly. If not, I'm good,
I just have to walk away.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
How much How different is that Monique? Not just an age, yes,
but how different is that Monique to the windness sitting
right here on this couch?

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Oh, she grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
That one was naive? Will you have a naive? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Yes? Yes? When you first come to Hollywood, Shannon and
I got a show called The Parkers after I was
in Hollywood less than ninety days, wow, ninety days. And
you have agents and you have managers and you have attorneys, right,

(01:20:29):
and they're telling you all the good things, and anybody.
Everybody always said to me, you want to get the syndication. Yes,
you want to get the syndication. Once you get the syndication,
you work because you want to work, right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
So syndication is what five years? One hundred episode?

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Syndication is one hundred episodes, right, So that's all I knew.
I didn't know to aks to be an executive producer
of my own image, and nobody told me. I didn't
know the for that. I didn't know to asks for
after the third year of being on a successful sitcom
that you could say, I now need a bonus. I
didn't know to even negotiate that, and no one told

(01:21:09):
me to negotiate that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
They're definitely not going to tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
All they kept saying is when you get the syndication,
When you get the syndication, When you get the syndication, Well,
three years in The Parkers was in syndication. Now, no
one told me that you learn it once you open
your eyes. Because now I'm going around the country doing promos.
The Parkers is coming on at four o'clock in your city.
The Parkers will be on at two thirty and Sacramento,

(01:21:34):
y'all make sure y'all watch the Parkers that's coming on.
I'm not knowing I'm promoting the show in syndication. No
one told me that all we're doing is saying if
we get to five years. We got to five years,
one hundred and ten episodes. Me and a beautiful young
lady named Countesspahn, who was my baby to this day.
We had the Laverne and Shirley law. Right supposed to

(01:21:57):
be equal. Once we got to the five years. Our
attorney my attorney, and the age is that, oh, the
Parker's made money. Y'all gonna get paid from the Parkers.
It's made money. Okay, years go by. By two thousand
and four, the Parkers we went off the air in
two thousand and four, right in five years. By two

(01:22:18):
thousand and nine, the Parkers had made eight hundred million dollars.
Oh year, yeah, stay with me, money money, hey, come on, hey, yay,
all right, Okay, okay, because we're waiting to get that
money said, oh, coming, we get a call, we got

(01:22:40):
to do an audit, you know, and everything. Okay, And
that was in two thousand and nine that had made
eight hundred million. We're now in twenty twenty four and
they're trying to convince Countess one and nine that that
show made no money by no m that I want
to convince us that a show that costs sixty five

(01:23:03):
roughly sixty five million dollars to make and our last
year of shooting The Parkers counts Vaughan and I made
fifty five thousand dollars apiece.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
That's it. How about you? Were you making an.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Episode fifty five thousand dollars an episodes? Okay? So how
many episodes five years? That last year we shot twenty
two episodes? Okay, we made fifty five thousand dollars a
piece at the end of a top rated sit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Helldo hold on time? On time? Are you saying you
made fifty five thousand for twenty two episodes? Are you
saying you made fifty five thousand per episode? Because I
want to make sure I've hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Let me make sure you hear me correctly, we did
twenty two episodes. Yes, we were paid fifty five thousand
dollars per episode. Okay for twenty two shows. Okay, Okay,
that's on a hit show that is unheard of. Yeah,
because we're two black women, I don't know to fight
for it, countless as young, countless as a baby in

(01:24:04):
this business. So I don't know to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
We should have been making a thousand, one hundred and
fifty two hundred thousand of an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
So now today y'all want to convince us that that
show made no money. That show has made over two
billion dollars, and I'm guesstimating, and you want to convince
us that our percentage we made no money. We can't
allow that to happen, right, That's why we're fighting. That's
why we're saying no, no, guys, we can't sit on

(01:24:34):
our hands like that. You know how many of us
when you watch Good Times, when you watch the Jeffersons,
when you watch Sam for the son whose family is
benefiting from our images? Because the damn show ain't ours. Wow,
You see why I fight the way I fight. Yeah,
Because if it does not make sense, you have to
explain it, and I'll go back to Tyler Perry. You

(01:24:56):
know why Tyler Perry don't want to talk to my
husband because he can't talk around him. My husband don't
careing about that man's money. We don't care nothing about
your title. We care about your character, brother, We care
about your intention.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
What you're gonna pay?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
What you what you're gonna pay?

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
How you gonna make it right? How are you gonna
make it right? Because if I am your aunt, Mary,
and I really belonged to you as I really belong
to you right now, Shannon, I am your sister and
you heard something that was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
How how can Tyler Perry make it right? MO? Give
you a job, give you your give you a sitcom?
Say more? Okay, you know what? More sitcom? You're gonna
be the executive producer. I'm gonna be a co executive producer.
You're gonna do the sitcom.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
If somebody cost you, Shannon Sharp, millions of dollars, yes,
do you want to be compensated for what they cost
you for a lie and a rumor? Yeah? So at
that time I was making roughly between two and three
million dollars a year, right, I set in that for
over twelve for over a decade, like twelve years. You
do the man over a lie that he admitted it,

(01:26:00):
that he told now something I'm making up. You admit
it that, brother, How do you make that right?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
You got I'm sure you got lawyers. Have you had
a conversation?

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Well, what happens is when you take somebody at their
word time time time. We don't need to go to
no lawyer's taler. You know what you did. Just make
it right. And if he doesn't make it right, what
will our community do? What will our community say? Because
today it's me, tomorrow's you. Then what We've got to

(01:26:33):
hold him accountable? What did? What? What? What?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Cats say? We've got to you got them tell Tyler Perry,
come on now do it. You got to tell him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
You got to tell that more obviously when you do.
When when you do stand up, you go to a
lot of different cities, a lot of different club Yes,
it's a lot of different promoters. Has everybody always been
on the up and up with Monique? Or did you
try to? Sometimes people try to take advantage you. Female,
you're black, You head me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
You're not gonna say that like mister from Color Purple.
You're black, Your ugn you wanna do that shit?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
But you know, people try to take people would would
try to take advantage of anyone, but seemingly like us
that she were willing to take more advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I've had to tell the promoters call the police because
either they're gonna come get you or me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
They tried to hold up on the money.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Call the police because and this was this was like
seventy five dollars. Can you imagine seventy five dollars? Like
you know where we come from. Yeah, if somebody gets
you for twenty five dollars, that's a problem. Imagine twenty
five million. Yeah, we've seen people lose their life for
twenty five dollars. Imagine somebody getting you for millions. How

(01:27:53):
are you supposed to feel? Would you let it go? Nah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Hell no?

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Right, So when people say more, just let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Yeah, But it's easy for people to say let it
go when they haven't lost anything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
It's easy to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Say, come on, But when you've lost, how do you
It's kind of like it's kind of like, you know, hey,
someone should just get over it. You should. You can't
tell somebody how to grieve, how long to grieve, because
you're not the one that's hurting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
They didn't do it to you. They didn't do it
to you. It was done. And I will say this
right now on your show. I still love y'all. We
still love y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
You love money.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Make it make it right, my husband, Okay, say that
again because.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
I love y'all. Mod y'all. Make it right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Yes, indeed, okay, I'll fix them a pand okay. My
husband would always say, Mama, we ain't calling nobody out.
We're calling them up. And if we continue to call
us up on our doings that are not right, we
get better as a people, like we get Do you
know why things were able to happen like that happened
on the Color Purple?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Why? Oh, you're talking about the reback? You talking about
what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Talking about, the seventh one, the one that just came
out right right and at the seventh edition.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It's like the musical with Fantasia in Taraji.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Right right, right, right, right right, that one with all
our beautiful sisters. You know why they're able to treat
us like they treat us. How are you handpicked in
your audition?

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
No, if you hand picked, you do on audition.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I want you to say that again, Shennon, because people
don't understand how deep this goes. When I watched my
sister say it was an honor to be hand picked, right, then,
whyever would you audition?

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
And the moment, in my opinion, the moment she auditioned,
they knew we got them. We can treat them any
kind of way we want to treat them, we can
do them any kind of way.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
But why would you I want to why God, you can.
That doesn't mean you should.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
But they did, but they did. How do you hand
pick me and then mistreat me? And then I got
to send a letter to you about the mistreatment that
you gave me. That's why they're able to get away
with it. That's why when I do interviews oftentimes or
these conversations, people are too afraid to even address it
because they don't want to be caught up like, oh,

(01:30:24):
I don't I don't know when you said way a minute, naught,
that's the truth. I heard it. And I don't want
my character to be on the line as I'm being
a person sitting there asking people about their lives and
then not be able to stand in what I've heard.
That's why it made so much. It was important for us.
It was important for us to get you that audio.

(01:30:45):
I don't want you to take my word and anything
I've said on this couch right now that don't take
my word. Ask those people, Ask those people and see
what happens. Then maybe after this come out, they're gonna
label me again. She's bitter, she's not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know you got thirty dollars. Yeah, the
first is gonna be better.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Just look at your camera. Okay, And here's the thing,
because I got a king at home. I'm not bitter.
I'm not bitter.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
You just want what's right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Just determining right not life is too good to be better.
But we're determined for you to take accountability right. That's all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Your Apollo Theater and the sister that stay out front,
that had to Jerry Carl. If she liked you, everybody
liked you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
If she did not like you, nobody liked you. And
when I saw that woman stand to her feet, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Good, I was good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
There was so many moments.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Were you nervous to go on apollow because you know,
if everybody know about.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
To follow, you're nervous every time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
You still get nervous to go every.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Time, baby, and not the nervous where you're scared. It's
just that like, oh, I get to do it again,
Like when you go out to the field. It's like, ooh,
it's that I still get that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Yeah, wow, that's I mean to hear you speaking to
see like how passionate you are a very very passionate
person about everything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
I love us. I loved us. Like when I say
I love my people, I love my people, Shannon, I
love us. I love everybody right, but my people. I
love us. So when I speak on things, it's not
the drop shade mess or tie. I'm too damn grown
for that. I'm fifty six and a grandmother who got

(01:33:56):
time for that. But I say it because will it
make us better? Will it make us come to the
table and say, you know what, do we really leave
for the babies that's coming behind us? That means something
to me when I talk about them. Damn bonnets, let
me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah you feel hey, come on, can we like when
we come out the house, can we not have the
bonnets on? Can we not have the pajamas on? Can
we not have the house shoes going in?

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
The the whole damn Halloween costume. That's a Halloween costume
that you wear on Halloween. And I am passionate about
that because what is the representation that we're giving to
the little girls that's walking behind you? What is the
representation that we're giving to our black men that's walking
beside us? What is the reputation that we're given. And
when they would say to me, oh, Monique, you don't

(01:34:44):
know what they going through. We always been going through something. Yes,
we was going through something when we got off the
damn boat. We've been going through something. But once you
lose the pride and the dignity of what of what
you feel like, you look like, then we've lost. So
I wasn't backing down on that. It's like, no, y'all,
we owe ourselves right that we owe ourselves that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
How hard is it for you to love some in
the community when you know they don't love you back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
That's a good machinton. Okay, that's a good one, because
sometimes I be in the bathroom having conversations with the
ones that don't love me back, but I still love
them because I just know they're misinformed. We've been conditioned
in such a way in our community to eat each
other up and spit each other out. We've been conditioned, well,
I don't like her, and I love my people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
But why why do I love? No? No, I'm saying
a lot of times for me is that I don't
take someone's word about to because you can only judge
a person through personal experience. Yes, you don't know our
audio guy, but to say, oh, well, I don't like it,
and then for you said, well I don't like it either,

(01:36:05):
because Shanna didn't like it. You have no personal experience
with him, So why wouldn't you? Why would you dislike it?
People want us to dislike somebody because they've had a
negative experience with that set person.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
And we buy into it. We buy into it because
this one don't like it, And then you say, why
don't you like them? Let me This is one thing
my husband said to me one time. He said, Mama,
there's not a person on the face of this earth
that I dislike. I may dislike what they do, but
I don't dislike the person. And it took me a

(01:36:39):
minute to understand it because I'm like, I don't like
they ass. I don't like what they did. I don't
like they ass. I don't like their mama. I don't
like none of them. But he said, no, they are
things you've done that I dislike, but I don't dislike you.
And once we can get past that, then we even
grow to be better. So what you're seeing right now,

(01:37:01):
Shannon is missus Sidney Hicks that my husband had set
me down and had conversations with me and really taught
me how to be a lady. Because people in this
business know if you sideways, baby, you beat that boy
over the head with that tray in the cafeteria, right,

(01:37:22):
I will cuss your ass out in ways that they
wish I beat him with a tray. And he had
to say, Mama, they won't hear you, right, they don't
hear you once you go there. So he's had to
teach me how to really be a queen, really know
my worth, really understand my value. And I'm grateful for that.
And I used to say to my husband, I wish

(01:37:44):
I could put you in a bottle and shake you
up and let black women take a sent to know
what it's like to truly be loved by a black
man that is a king. When I tell you, Shannon,
it's a love that is unexplainable and unimaginable. That's why

(01:38:05):
I can't be broken. And I say that humbly. I
can't be broken because I got a king at home.
I got a king right there, And when all this
shit went crazy, that man took me by my hands
and said, don't you know we could? And I believed him,
and right now to this day, I believe him. And
when you have that type of strength, it's hard to

(01:38:30):
bend over. You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Right. You said that when you were at your lowest,
he lifted you to your highest.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
You better know your homework. Baby, I'm proud of you.
We got toes on that way. You better know your
damn homework. I said that when I was at my lowest,
he loved me like I was at my best and
I was mentally ill. Because you're in this business, everybody

(01:39:02):
thinks you are a hero. Consideration can be thrown out
the window. Patience can be thrown out the window because
when you get home, you believe that I'm the bread winner.
And what I say is what goes. And this is
what it is. And this is my third marriage through
my first because this is the first time I've known

(01:39:24):
my place as a black man's wife, and there's a
place and we get so caught up in that word,
what you mean, your play, what you mean without him
saying it, his actions showed me that he was the
leader of that household. Without him saying it, I knew

(01:39:46):
I was dealing with a king.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
And he didn't have to confidently remind you of it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
He never, he's never. When we first got together, I said,
at the him of that table, comfortably, there was never
a conversation about it. Till one day I knew I
was in the wrong place. Wow, And I moved to
the side of the table, and he said at the head.

(01:40:10):
We never had a conversation about it. It just happened
because it was supposed to. So when people question my
husband and why is he there, you would hope you
would have one like that. I remember our beautiful sister
Tiffany had itsh did an interview with GQ magazine, and
this is my humble opinion, it's where we keep throwing

(01:40:32):
each other under the bus. You're doing an interview with
GQ magazine and I'm assuming the journalist was a white person.
And the conversation turned to Monique and she said, well,
I don't do business like Monique do business. And I'm
glad I don't have that husband of hers.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
But she doesn't know your husband.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
And when I saw that, it's like Tiffany, if you
had a husband like mine, you may not have to DUIs.
If you had a husband like mine, you may not
be caught up in what looks like you could have
been grooming a child. And I say, all of that
was no judgment. But when you speak about having a

(01:41:15):
husband like mine, you open up the door. And I'm
saying to you, if you had one like mine, you
may not sit in these positions that you can't explain
the next day or it's a hard way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
So once agont you don't have a husband, let alone
like yours.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Well about saying that, now, you said it, I siped
doing that, said that was a sip that required a sip.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
You Moesha? How did how did that come about?

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Mosha?

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Yeah? You had an audition for Moesha?

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Right, No, sir, hold on, no, sir, I did I
say this not to be but I never auditioned what
I've never auditioned. They've call I think. I thought I

(01:42:15):
was auditioning for a Burger King commercial, but what it
really was was the agency I was with at the
time just trying to blow smoke, you know, making me
think I'm doing something, but to audition. When I first
came to Hollywood, I told this guy name I believe
his name is Mark Unray, and I told AJ Johnson,
and I told a sister named kim Kimberly Brooks. I said,

(01:42:35):
I'm not auditioning, and they was like, okay, like you're
fat ass. You not auditioning. We'll see That's what they did.
They laugh. But I meant that, I'm like, what you
see is what you get. I am not going to
especially now, especially now. Whyever would I audition when I've

(01:42:57):
got the highest award that you can get in this
business called acting? And why would I do that? Because
once I do that, I devalue me. If you can't
look at my work and say that's what we want,
then no, thank you. Like they'll call me, they'll send
emails and they'll say, what's Monique availability. None of your business.
I don't know you, So you're just gonna send an

(01:43:19):
email and wanna know what's my availability. I'm offer only.
I am offer only. So again, we gotta be careful
what we say yes too, what Sidney Poitier say, It's
not how many times you say yes, how many times
you say no? And the moment Our Baby audition, they
got set up for no trailers, they got set up

(01:43:41):
for no food, they got set up for no drivers
because now in their mind they think you're desperate. Right,
So when Oprah does the one on one with Taraji
and she begins to run down her credits, the great
Taraji p Henson, then whyever would you allow the audition
to happen? Whyever would you allow that? Why wouldn't you
go to that studio and say, she doesn't have to

(01:44:04):
our hand picked them. So either our sisters not as
powerful as we believe she is, or either there's not
the concern that she tries to make it look like
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
But you turn a couple of appearance on Moesha into
the Parkers.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
This is how the Parkers happened. Normally, you shoot a pilot, correct, right, yes,
and the pilot they decide whether or not they're going
to do the show from the pilot, right yes, okay,
Countess Vaughan and I when I go to a meeting
with a guy named Larry Little at Big Ticket Television,
and at the time my agent was a woman named
Susie Unger. They're trying to sell a talk show. Yes,

(01:44:41):
we have a meeting. He says, listen, I don't need
her to do a talk show, but if she can act,
she has her own show. My agent said, of course
she can act. Well, she didn't know if I could
act or not, but I said, damn it, of course
I can. Add. They put Countess Vaughnut that meeting that
was at one o'clock. By that evening, they were negotiating
the deal for the Parkers. The way they entered used
the character because they always talked about Kim's mother on Mosha.

(01:45:03):
They introduced Nikki Parker in an episode of Militia, which
was the pilot spin off to The Parkers. That was
never an audition. There was never any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
So now all of a sudden, you got your own
sick com Shut up, Come on, now you go home,
and you like from be more Maryland from what I
went through to this, yes, are you looking around?

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Damn it? I made I knew this. I knew this
thing we was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Yes, yes, yes. And you know how you know something
as a child, like did you know you were gonna play?

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
I knew it, Shannon. I knew it like I knew
as a child. And I say this humbly. I knew
the world would know my name like I knew that.
So once you in it, you'd be just like I
still can be in a supermarket and somebody say, Monique,

(01:46:17):
is that you and I still can tear up because
I'm like, I'm here. I remember when I got my
first parking lot at the Parkers. I didn't know I
had a parking space, and they would send out emails
to say, if you're here for the Parkers, park outside
the gate. That's how naive I was when you ask me,
was I naive? So I would park outside the gate.

(01:46:42):
I even though I'm one of the stars of a show. Baby,
they said, if you went the Parker, because there's no
one on one, there's no Hollywood one on one, there's
no introduction. They just say go and you're supposed to
get it. So I would walk across the parking lot
all the way over to the set to the stage
till a brother named William Tripp was in a golf
cart one day. He said, mo, what you're doing? I said,

(01:47:05):
going to the set. He said, why are you walking
across the parking lot. I said, oh, because they said
if you're with the parkers, you gotta park outside the gate.
The brothers laughed, but it was a brotherly lamb. He said,
come in, baby, let me show you something. And I
got on that golf cart and he drove me to
my parking space that had my name on it. That

(01:47:27):
was a moment for me, like I'm pulling up to
a studio and that's my name. That's the little fat
black girl from Baltimore, Maryland who was in the slow
slow class. That's the little fat black girl from Baltimore,
Maryland who didn't have a lot of friends, a lot
of people didn't want to deal with me. But that's
my name on that parking space. Now do you see
why I fight like I fight because it's all possible.

(01:47:49):
But what happens is we then lose ourself in the
possibility of what we're getting, and now we're too afraid
to lose it. So all the principles, all the morals,
all your fans, I'll use they don't go away. You
just push them to the side, because you know what
it's like not to have gas money. So I'll just
you know, I just go ahead and do that a
little bit. My soul won't let me do that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Why did you want to become famous? You asked me earlier,
Did I know that I was going to play in
the NFL? And I told you yes, because I would.
I wanted to play in the NFL because it was
going to get my grandmother and my family into a
situation they probably would have never enjoyed without it. Come on,
that was my driving force. That was all I thought about. More,

(01:48:35):
given your family situation and what transpired, why didn't more
want to be famous so bad?

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
I'm a little fat black girl, baby, and asks another
fat black girl. We fight for that attention because you
wasn't the one picked on the playground to play kickball, right,
You wasn't the one pick for the spelling bee. You
wasn't the one picked for them. You wasn't the one
pick for that. So I was like, one day, one day,

(01:49:03):
one day, one day. I'm sure you growing up you
had your challenges. You were a dark skinned man, there
was a time you studied.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
I wasn't always popping that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
You brought it up. Let's talk about it, talk about it.
Your good, your hand white curly, your skin was black. Yeah, man, okay, yeah,
you brought it up. I wasn't always that. Is sow
to be that now to be that? Yeah, Now you
gotta be careful because you remember the time when she told,

(01:49:32):
you know, I don't wanna go out on the date
with old black Shannon. Let me talk to her right now,
let me talk to your ass that wouldn't go out
with black Shannon. Now you wish you would have won
out with black shanning that study, Okay, you wish you
would have one out with black stuttering Shannon sharps ass.
Now look at him, he got the shape shape. Show
I met her ass of tough. I've been there. I've

(01:49:56):
been there. I've been there. So we understand it. You know,
you understand that drive. You understand that thing and you
that says I won't let nobody stop me. Now, my
drive wasn't that I wanted to get my family out
of poverty, because I've always grown up in a middle
class environment. So it wasn't that we were dirt poor.
You know, we ain't have no whole lot, But I

(01:50:16):
didn't look at it as we lived in Powy. For me,
I just wanted to I wanted the world to know me.
And then once I had a son, right, I was
very young when I had my first son. I didn't
want him to have to go to a college because

(01:50:37):
that was all that my parents could afford. I wanted
him to be able to do whatever he wanted to do.
And then there was a sacrifice in that, right, because
when you're trying to go get it, you're missing this
right here, the nurture in you miss all of that.
So you know, all of that had to be dealt with.
So now with this group, with my second set of children,

(01:51:00):
mother than I was then. So my whole thing is
even right now, we want to make sure that when
we leave here, our babies are good, right, and that
baby's are good. And then Tyler Perry not told that lie,
we would be on our way to that. And I
know people saying, why she keep going back to that.
I'm gonna keep going back to that shit, Shannon Sharp

(01:51:22):
till he takes accountability.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
For you said your first son, Yes, that you're trying
to get it, but it robbed you of a lot
of things of a mother son relationship, and so you
made sure not to make the mistake this time around.

(01:51:45):
What's your relationship like, is he resentful of that?

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
We're still very much separated, okay? And and and it's
a it's a it's a It's one of those things
where you have to pray to the universe and say,
let do the healing, and that's it. That's it. Let
time do that healing. It may heal it in time,
and it may not. And that's something that we as

(01:52:10):
parents have to say, Listen, I've done what I've could do.
I've taken accountability for it. Now it's up to you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
That's like when somebody's saying, Shannon, I want to apologize
to you. Now it's up to you whether or not talk.
But once I give it to you, I've done my
part and don't apologize like, no, Pump, I'm just sorry
for everything that gets your ass out of it. No,
break it down. Let's go bit by bit so that

(01:52:42):
way we know you understand the offense that you've done.
Now I'm not saying because I've had to do that
when I tell you. I was so out of line
and out of order when I first got with my husband,
so out of order and out of line. And this
has been my best friend since tenth grade, since we
were fourteen years old. He came to the other other weddings.

(01:53:03):
It was like my brother. This man, he was like
my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Even I hustling you for a minute more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
You know he wasn't. That's why it's so beautiful, because
we really we were like we we had a place together.
He would see my boyfriend, I see his girlfriend. You
know that type of This was my brother. This was
literally my brother. And then if it wasn't my boyfriend,

(01:53:31):
it might be another little fellow. But you know, he
was like my brother. We were brother and sister. So
the way it happened, yes, it was so pure.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Tell me, and that's what I want to know. Now.
You he came to you, say, came the wedding. You
saw him have girlfriends. I don't know if he was
married or not before you you How how did I
gotta know this? All?

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Barton?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Need to do a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
We got time, We got time, We got on time.
I want you to say that again, and I don't
want Hallmark, but okay, okay, okay, because this store, this
story is spicy, and I don't know if Hallmark can
handle the spice of the story. So we've always been
like brother and sister. Right. He was the one I

(01:54:17):
would call after a show when I was standing at
a motel and I'd be like, yo, they got me
in this motel and nigga's outside and everything. I'm scared.
He'd be like, but one day, one day, you're gonna
be on the inside. This is the same guy that
we was going to the like our little farmer's market
in Baltimore, and I had a comedy club called Monique's
in Baltimore, and the girl had on a Monick's T shirt.

(01:54:39):
And he says, one day they know you only in Baltimore,
but one day they gonna know you all around the world.
That's the same guy that when we step off of
a plane in London together and the guy says, my
wife knows I fancy you. And we went back to
that moment coming out of that store in Baltimore. But
one day they'll know you all the world. So he's

(01:55:02):
always been he always made life right for me. But
it was my brother, right, And I remember one night
when I thought Joel LeVert was my boyfriend. And let
me be clear, I thought he was my boyfriend. I
was never his girlfriend, right, but in my mind, you know,

(01:55:23):
we'll we'll take it somewhere, right. So I'm in my
feelings because I like this little teddy bear, right, but
the teddy bear didn't like recting. Okay, oh right, not
the way I wanted it to be. Right. So I
call up my best friend and I'm saying I'm mad.
He said, all right, he said, listen, that's all good.

(01:55:45):
When you come home, you know, let's just hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
When I went home, I was doing the BT Awards
and I had a big party at my house. And
the next day I was supposed to go to Essence
for the film for the Essence Festival. So that night
at the house, my house, the outside is packed. Ain't
nobody though a Hollywood party, shanting shop like Monique through
a Hollywood I had every race, every nationality, every everything

(01:56:13):
you thought could be at a party, and everybody was
just a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
So he's at the party and he's very reserved, you know,
very reserve cat. So I grabbed his hand and said,
come on, let's go dancing, and we got on and dance.
We have a great time. After that, I'm like, all right,
I gotta start packing to get ready to go to
the Essence Festival. So we go upstairs and I take
my shower. It was nothing for him to see me
naked because we we were roommates, you know, so nothing.

(01:56:40):
So he says, when you come back from Essence, I
wanna talk with you. So I said, okay. So he
went to kiss me on my cheek, but the kiss
was half lipped. It was like here, yo, you see,

(01:57:01):
it was right there, right now. I tried to turn
the home mouth, but it came right there because I
felt something different. I felt it and I was like
and then after it happened, we both almost had a
feeling of like we did something wrong, like this, like
that's my So we didn't address it. I came back
from Essence Festival.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
I went to his place. Okay, he fixed inner. Okay,
he fixed inner and read this amazing poem that he
wrote that was almost nineteen years ago. Oh we've never
been apart since then. Wow, We've never been apart since then.
And I am more in love with that man today

(01:57:49):
than I was when we first got married, because I
didn't really know what I was getting. I knew I
was getting somebody I could trust because I just needed
somebody that I could just right, like my brother stole
from him, my fad, like I'm just I just needed
somebody that I could just trust. And I didn't want
to keep on having randoms, right, because that gets old

(01:58:09):
after a while. You know what I'm saying. He's trying
to fill the void, and men go through that as
well as women. You just get tired of. So I
knew I could trust him, but I didn't know he
was the king that he was sharning. I didn't know that.
I didn't know that I would be raised and they
are women that have a problem with me saying that,
and I will not back down from it. I did

(01:58:31):
not know that that man would take me from a
fifteen year old mentality. Even though I'm a star, I'm famous,
I got a few dollars in my bank account, but
still had that little girl mentality. You can't correct me,
you can't say nothing to me, you can't check me,
you can't do none of that. Still had that way.
That man was able to shut all of that down

(01:58:53):
and grow me up. So I got a great one.
I won't even say it good when I got a.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Great, great one. Yeah, you got a lover, a best friend, yes,
a manager, a husband yes, confide.

Speaker 1 (01:59:07):
Yes, yes, yes, a protect her. You're saying it, and
it seems like people have a hard time getting it,
But that's exactly who Sidney Hick says. He's all of
those things.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
When the Queens of Comedy, when was that? Because I
was some more adal givings, Miss Lloyd, tell me about
the Queen's of comedy we hear about We hear about
the Kings of Comedy all the time, and it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Yeah, I was not an original Queen of Comedy. And
when I came on right, I was so honored to
be in the presence of three of the greatest female
comedians to ever do it. And when I tell you,
hands down, them sisters are incredible because they've paved ways

(01:59:59):
for people. And when we got together, Shannon, it was
non stop history making because we were selling out in
ways that were unheard of, right, And I can remember
our first show because I was not initially the headliner
of the Queens of Comedy, some more was and I

(02:00:19):
remember our first show. And this is why I appreciate her,
because she knows a great show. Like you have some
comedians that feel like you can't follow me. I tore
the stage down and it's over, and you can't, you can't,
you can't. And I felt that way one time in
my life, and that was with Dale Hughgley, right, but
have you. She was the headliner of the show and

(02:00:41):
we were in Atlanta, and it was one of those
shows where the basket for me was this big, like
I don't care what I said, it was just right.
Some more is one of the funniest. It's just our
energies are different. I'm liable to run across the stage.
Just the energy is different. And that night, the energy

(02:01:04):
was just different. It was not that she was less funny,
just the energy was different. And this is why I
loved that sister. She walked off the stage that night,
after she closed the show, she walked by me and
she said, you had line from now on, and she
kept walking. We never discussed it. We never discussed it.
It takes for me. It takes a person saying we

(02:01:27):
want a great show, right, we just want a great
show correct, And that's what that was. Miss Laura taught
me how to warm up food on a damn iron
with a towel. She said, bitch, I've been to prison.
We don't have no microwave, and we're gonna eat these
buffalo wings. Flip that iron over and wrap that rentals
wrap up and cover it with that tail. Baby them
buffalo wings. Was so damn good. We just but did

(02:01:51):
we get treated fairly? Held to the note, No, we
did not. There were times on that Queens of Comedy
tour that I had to even on that tour, I
had to say some things because it wasn't fair and
the way we were being treated it was not fair.

(02:02:12):
There were times when money wasn't right. And I remember
the first date for the Queens of Comedy and I
got a call from my agent and she says to me,
no more C and D promoters. You're in the big
leagues now. Walter Latham wants to want you to be

(02:02:35):
a part of the Queen's of Comedy. Okay, nope, I'm
thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
Problem because he's exactly producing of the Kings of Comedy.
Correct going to be a blast.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
The first check I got.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
Let me sit for I tell you, I'm man take
me a step too.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
My banker called me up and said, Monique, this check
is no good. I said, excuse me, the money jump
fighting sip again, God, damn it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
I might need a little some strong hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
Damn it, Shynon. The money's no good. I said, what
you say? She said money, This check is no good.
So I immediately got on the phone with my agent
and I said, let me tell you something about seeing
d promoters. My money always good. Now I need you
to get Walter Lathan on the phone. Walter Lathan. From

(02:03:28):
here on out, I will only accept cash from you
moving forward. You have two hours to get the money
into my account. If not, take me off of the
Queens of Comedy tour.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
You make it right.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
He made it right. You saw me on the tour,
didn't you. And then one night, this is why people
could say that's a problem. If I tell you I'm
going to pay you fifty thousand dollars and twenty five cents,
what are you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
One night they tried to give me what was not
all of it. I need all of it. I don't
care if it's a little bit. It's mine right until
you get it. My throat hurts. So they had to go.
I get sick on. I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
The weather.

Speaker 1 (02:04:26):
Well, I performed that night because they had to go
get my money. Right then they started selling shows off.
So what that means is now you got different promoters
coming in. We're women, we are women, okay. Some more
had an assistant and I had an assistant. And both
of our assistants were not the kind of men that
was gonna fight. Okay, they might scratch it, but they

(02:04:49):
weren't gonna ball. They fish up and you no guffing. Okay,
So we're in a position now where we're trying to
defend ourselves because now you're walking up, you walking up.
I'm a promoter, promoter, I'm a promoter, take pictures with
my family, and we had no idea this was happening.
One night we're on the Kings and Queens, right, and

(02:05:09):
oh how Bernie mac is missed. Oh how he's missed
because he was a real one. All the Kings of
Comedy had limos separate. Steve had one, Bernie had one,
said you had one, DL had one, all of them.
Then another limousine pull up and they say this is
for the Queens of Comedy. I said, I will not.

(02:05:31):
I will not. You better pull up four separate limousines.
You're gonna treat us the same way you treated them.
We helped sell out forty four thousand people. That wasn't
just the kings, it was the kings and the queens,
So you will treat us accordingly. All the kings got
Rolex watches when it was over.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
What y'all get?

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
I'm still waiting for mine. That's the treatment? And people said,
why won't y'all do the queens again? It was a
moment in time, and it was a beautiful moment in time,
and something should be left where they were.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Wow, this is what I want to get to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
I want you to get to it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
A lot of this happened with the movie Precious. That's
the movie that made Monique a star amongst she shined
the brightest because you played that role. Nobody else could
have did that role justice more nobody you played it.
And I remember walking out of the movie and I

(02:06:40):
called my sister. I said, she's gonna win the Academy
Award for that role. I said, it's almost like she
was born to play that role. Now, now tell the
correctment from wrong. Okay, you should a movie. Yes, the
movie rap. You might have to come back and do
some's over, some here, some touch up work here or there. Yes,

(02:07:03):
that's already stripted into the contract. Now the promotion aspect
of the contract, what were you contracted to do? Because
that seems to be where the conflict seems to come in,
because you was like, okay, what so tell the people
that's gonna watch this and listen to this. What was

(02:07:24):
Monique contractually obligated to do as far as the promotional
aspect of Precious?

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
I was contractually obligated to promote the movie Precious under
Lee Daniel's productions. Okay, I promoted Precious under Lee Daniel's productions.
I did Oprah, I did magazines, I did TV shows,
I did all of the promotions I was contractually obligated

(02:07:52):
to do.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
Okay, that was it. That was it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
I'm done with it, done, Okay. Now Precious is going
to can right at the time, I have the Monique Show,
I am on the Spread the Love Tour, I have
toddler babies, and I'm also a wife. Okay, Monique. The
Monique Show is like down for maybe a couple of
days a week or so. I got some days off

(02:08:17):
on the tour. I'm gonna relax with my family because
once they sold the movie, you didn't sell me, Whoopy Goldberg.
See Whoopy Goldberg said, I could have schooled you and
told you what was expected when I didn't promote and
go overseas, And you know how you just looked up

(02:08:39):
and looked away, Whoopy Goldberg, what you were saying to me.
I could have schooled you and told you you're going
to in that house and let them have their way
with you, and I'll be here when you come back.
So after I'm done with my promotions, lions Gate reaches
out to my husband. Initially, they think they're talking to
my attorney, right, and they say, we want Monique to

(02:09:04):
come to can To. She promoted so well in the
United States. We want her to go international and promote
the movie and do can Okay. I told my husband,
please let them no respectfully decline. I appreciate it, but
I respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend some time at home.
Lions Gate calls back, we really would like for Monique

(02:09:26):
to come to can promote this movie. Please let them
no respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend time with my family.
Lions Gate calls back and says, what is it gonna
take for us to get Monique to come to can
We'll give her another week in France, we'll upgrade her room.

(02:09:47):
My husband said, is there a dollar amount attached to
what you're asking for? Oh, we will never pay anyone
to promote a film, never, he said, We understand, and
we're never gonna work for free. You're asking her to
do something that she's not obligated to do. What is
this the attorney? He said, Actually, I'm her manager and
her husband. Now we can put it on the husband's

(02:10:10):
being difficult, right, Okay, So I don't owe anybody anything.
That's why I was never sued. Now we go to
the Hoodie Awards. Tyler Perry is there. Okay, Tyler Perry
calls me in his room. Now, when I go into
Tyler Perry's room, his staff is in there. Now you're
ready to holler laughing? Yes, okay, I take my security

(02:10:30):
in there with me because I always want to have
somebody with me. Right, Tyler Perry does this, and the
people scattered, They all left out the room. I said,
look at this shit right here, you saw me, and
they all scattered.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
That wasn't that's for the people you don't lights.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
Home lights off because they got their asses about it. Okay,
So at the time, my security look at me. I said,
you don't work for Tyler Perry.

Speaker 2 (02:10:59):
You could touche.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
So Tyler Perry says to me, listen, Monique, we really
need you to, you know, promote this film because if
you get nominated for the Oscar, your next movie is
gonna be three to five million dollars. If you win it,
your next movie is six to eight million dollars. I said,
Tyler Perry, who you talking to I'm a black woman.

(02:11:22):
Weren't they gonna pay that kind of money. No, I'm
telling you that's what it is. And if you just
go and promote it, I said, listen, brother, you can
pay me to promote it. Because at the time now
him and Oprah producers on a film. I said, you
can pay me to do it. I don't care where
the check coming from, but y'all to start, he said,
I'm not in the habit of giving out money for free.
I said, and I'm not in the habit of working

(02:11:43):
for free. But you gave TD Jakes a check for
a million dollars. But that's another story, and I'm back.
So when he then says that, it's like, listen, we
both mutually agree. You don't give out free money. I
don't work force. We hugged Shannon when we were done talking.
We hu hugged. Do you hear me?

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
We hugged like brother and sister. Like it's cool. He understands, right, Okay.
Oprah Winfrey calls my husband. I want you to take
your time because I'm getting going on. Yeah, because the
people at home, they sitting there like morning, what happened?
I'm great. Take She calls my husband. My husband explains

(02:12:24):
to her what's going on. She says, there have been
times I've had to draw the line in the sand.
So my husband said, well, what is different between you
and Monique? You've got to draw the line. And you're
saying when you know they're asking you for too much.
She says, you're absolutely right, and I understand your position.
You're right in the position. You'll take it. So when

(02:12:44):
you're looking at me saying, well what happened, I'm telling
you what happened.

Speaker 2 (02:12:48):
But okay, she's saying that privately, But did she voice
that publicly?

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
Did you hear her? Say it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:12:58):
Did you hear her saying JT. Did you say it, Fay?
Did you hear saying Zach Regina? Did you hear her Tommy? No?
One seemed to hear that publicly. She said that privately.
Now when she said that, see everything we're saying to you,
it can be proven. She had him on speakerphone and

(02:13:21):
that when she was talking to him. In that room
was a man named Reggie Wells who just passed, who
used to be Oprah Winfrey's makeup artist, who he had
a conversation with me and my husband. Now for you babies,
that's good with the little internet. We had a show
on called Monique Sidney finding a Way to Be Unoffended,
Finding a Way to be Unoffended. Reggie Wells is on
that show speaking about Oprah Winfrey. Reggie Wells said, Monique,

(02:13:45):
I was there that day, he said, and when y'all
got off the phone, he looked. I looked at her
and said, why don't you just pay this woman the
money she deserves it? And she looked at him and said,
I won't be paying on nothing, And he said that's
not right. And you know it's not right. That man
share that on that show. So I'm not saying nothing
that hasn't been shared. So you have people that will

(02:14:06):
say things in private but won't do it publicly. I'm
the person that I will say it in private, and
I'm going to say it publicly because that's the only
way we make it right.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
But you don't need somebody to talk good till your face.
You need somebody to talk good behind your back. So
if you're telling me, if you're telling me what a
great person I am in my face, but you're telling
me I'm dog pooped behind my back, what good is that?

Speaker 3 (02:14:30):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
What does that make those kind of people? Shannon's what
does it make those kind of cowardly? That is cowardly. See,
here's what's this. When we have our juggernauts, Oprah Winfrey,
Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart, these are our juggernauts
of our community. These are the people that our baby

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say when I grow up, I want to be that.
I want to be like that. So we have to
call those people to the met and say, listen, what
are you teaching our babies. You're feeding poison because you're
showing them you're private jet I'm gonna show you my mansion.
I'm gonna show you my fancy cars. But my character
is shot and I'm bankrupt. I got a lot of

(02:15:11):
money in my bank. It's more zeros than some of
them can. Then we can imagic, but their character, they're bankrupt.
Those are bankrupt people. So everybody that cats sat right
here and told you about. I can't wait to see
your next interviews with those people.

Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
They ain't coming on now.

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
Mot invite them I have, They're not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
Well, look I've already done Steve. I have a relationship
with Steve.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
He's doing them again. Do him again. And I'm gonna
say this.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
I'm trying to get Oprah and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (02:15:46):
Doo Baby, we got him, y'all, come on, start playing.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
They ain't coming on more fakes, do you?

Speaker 1 (02:15:50):
You know how? And I don't want to put you
on a spot, but I'm gonna say it because I
appreciate you as a black man in what you're doing.
If you are my friend and someone says to me,
Monique Shannon shop wronged me and you my friend, I'm

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gonna call my friend and I'm gonna say, hey, is
what they're saying true? And if you get to hymen
the han I'm gonna tell you till you fix it.
You and I can't talk because if you'll do them
that way, it'll be a matter of time before you
do it to me. So if Steve Harvey is your friend,
you call your friend up and you ask him, is

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what our sister saying right man? Because if it is,
we can't do that to her. If that's our sister.
See it took a transgender name T. S. Madison. It
was a guy named Jamaica Carter. Jamaica Carter and our
mutual friend, Jamaica Carter and our friends T. S. Madison
was a mutual friend. So Jamaica called me and said,
would you mind doing T. S. Madison's show? I go

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do T. S. Madison's show. When I talk T. S. Madison,
when the camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend is wrong.
She said, moniquely dangerous my friend. I said, then you
need to call your friend and tell him to fix
this shit. She said, I will within a couple of days.
Who did I get a call from Lee Daniels. See
that's a friend, that's a true friend, that saying I

(02:17:17):
love you so much that I want to make sure,
that's not on your heart or your conscious. Let's fix it,
let's make it right. So when people asked, Lee, now,
when we did the deliverance together, how was it to
work with Mo Nigue? It was as if we had
never parted ways because he fixed it, he owned it,
and he took accountability for it. I can't now keep
you to the cross because you've owned it. I've had

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to be forgiven. So I appreciate that someone had grace
and mercy with me. So I'm gonna have that with
other people when they take accountability for what they've done.

Speaker 2 (02:17:48):
How much did you make for the role mary impression?

Speaker 1 (02:17:51):
I was paying fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:17:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:17:54):
That's it, and I never complained because that's what I
signed up for. It was an independent film, right. So
when my friend called me, and I'm gonna quote him,
he said, bitch, this one right here, right here, He said,
this shit is crazy. By the time I got the
page ten, I called him back. I said, what the
hell is this? Lee? He said, bitch, I know, he

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said it's sick. After my husband and I read that script,
he said, Mama, if you play this with no judgment.
When he say action. Don't judge the character just becoming
This is an award winning Yes, this is award winning.
So with all of that being said, I never complained
about the fifty thousand dollars. I did everything I was

(02:18:37):
supposed to do, no nothing. It is when they started
asking me to become a slave. It is when Tyler
Perry and Oprah Winfrey started asking me to work for free.
It is when they started doing the bidding for whomever
the gatekeeper was at the time to say we can
get a Remember the scene in Sparkle. You ever seen
Sparkle with Irene Carrol and Feeling Michael Thomas, Remember when

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they was in the car because the jew men was
trying to get him to sign over that contract and
he kept shaking his head like, you will not get
me to turn my back on this woman. Right, That's
what this is. We ain't turning all back. My husband
ain't turning this back. He ain't signing it for something
he know ain't right. And people have a problem with that.
And we got to keep speaking on the Shannon because

(02:19:24):
the next one's coming for real. I would hate for
you to have to sit another sister in this chair
and she tell you the same story.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
So considering you won the Oscar, Normally, when you win
the Oscar, not saying you're gonna want another or get
Oscar worthy scripts, but there's normally a run where you
and you know two three films. Now Monique that fifty
thousand is five hundred or a million or two million.

(02:19:55):
You feel feel that you were blackball from that point,
and Monique did not make the money what she should
have been compensated for future roles.

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
Let's tie it all back in Okay, Okay, you have
a man that says a lot on you. Yes, I
put a rumor out there on you. Yeah, and I
said I was gonna apologize. But then you have another
man that comes back when I'm offered empire and says, mo,
they said you're difficult to work, which you're gonna be
a problem. Where would they get that from?

Speaker 2 (02:20:26):
Wok somebody that is as powerful as as timing.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
Okay, so now I'm scratched from that right now when
it comes to movies, I'm a difficult person to work with.
Ain't nobody ever had a problem with me?

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
They never said, did they say, did anybody say that
pride oppression?

Speaker 1 (02:20:44):
Yes? No, not prior oppression. Right, I've never had a
problem with nobody as long as I was saying, yes,
you're good. The moment you start challenging, we got a problem.

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
What about the Parker? What about Moesha? Had anybody said
anything prior about Monique's directer, prior to her not wanting
to do international press what she's wasn't contractually obligated to do,
proud of that. Nobody said anything.

Speaker 1 (02:21:09):
Never. The only person that could say anything that is
a producer is a guy named Will Packer. I did
a movie called Almost Christmas. When Will Packer sat down
with my husband and I Shannon, every other word out
his mouth was queen you our queen, and then the
queen and the queen and the queen, and we just
want you to do a cameo. And here's what we're

(02:21:30):
gonna pay you. My husband said, Will, that does not
cover mo Nick doing promotions. That covers none of that. Brother,
this is just for the cameo.

Speaker 2 (02:21:39):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:21:40):
The director was David Tobert. My husband and David Talbert
were college roommates. They were across the hall from on
the night in the script, I was that quick because
it's a cameo. Okay, So ninety nine percent of the
things you heard. May say it was Monique, it was
me at libbyty because it's a cameo. Right when we

(02:22:03):
had a meeting with Will Packer, Will Packer says, if
you do this for me, I'll give you a three
pitcher deal. And they sit calm. Now we have all
of this in writing. It's all And.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
What were you? What were you? What were you? What
were you needing to do a press? You were gonna
need to do press for it. You're gonna need to
promote it, or just just do the.

Speaker 1 (02:22:21):
Just do the cameo. That is what was agreed upon.
We were gonna do a cameo for the amount of
money that he said they were gonna pay. No problem.
Well what they did was they kept spreading it out.
They kept spreading this character out. We want you on
this scene and that scene in this scene.

Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
Ain't no cameo cameo.

Speaker 1 (02:22:37):
Okay, okay, David Tabert is our family, is our friend.
We don't want to make this bad for David Tybert.
So we said, okay, no problem. Now let's talk about
the treatment. While we're on that set of Almost Christmas,
there were a few things that was happening that I
took issue with. Will Packer is a producer. He came

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on that set and tried to give us a direction
while the director was standing right there. I said, Will Packer,
I will not allow you to do that. You would
never do that to Steven Spielberg. You would never do
that to a white director. You as a producer, going
to just walk in and give a direction. So I
will not take direction from you. If you have something
you want to give to me, you give it to
the director, and you have the director to give it

(02:23:18):
to me, you are disrespectful to him. Now. I had
a meeting in David Talbot's trailer with Will Packer, David Talbert,
and the first AD because they were being disrespectful to
this black man and I was not going to allow
that to happen. I had a conversation with the first
AD and I pulled him outside. I said, listen, brother,
when it's your turn, I won't let nobody do it

(02:23:38):
to you. But what I'm not going to do is
stand by and watch you give a direction after the
director give us a direction. It confuses the cast and
it's disrespectful. And to that black man's credit, his eyes
filled up with water, and he said, I appreciate you
by having this conversation with me. Okay, so we'll pack
and I now at odds because I'm seeing how this

(02:23:59):
brother is acting. I'm in my trailer. My assistant at
the time, her name was Robin, right, Robin is in
her fifties. She's in my trailer with her shoes off.
She's on the computer. Will Packer's friend or I'm not
sure what title to give her. Okay, she comes into
the trailer. Now in this trailer, it is me, my hairstylist,

(02:24:22):
makeup artist, and my assistant. This young lady who we're
all old enough to be her mother. She comes and
looks at my assistant and says, what's your shoes doing off?

Speaker 2 (02:24:33):
You and your trailer? Why do you care?

Speaker 1 (02:24:35):
I said, excuse me, you're out of order. You donna
come in here questioning nobody in my trailer as a
matter of fact, and her energy was not that of
I'm playing. It was what I said, as a matter
of fact, I need you to go get Will because
I'm not even gonna have this conversation with you. I'm
gonna talk to your boss. When Will Packer comes into

(02:24:55):
that trailer for us to talk. Do you know what
that man says to me and my hairstylist and my
makeup artist and my assistant. I am the head nigga
in charge. Everything stops with me. I said, well, I
want to let you notice, Well, you're gonna hear that
you're the head and nigga in charge from me as
many times as I can tell people. That's what you said.

(02:25:17):
I said, And furthermore, you need to check your assistant
because this is my space. We weren't in your trailer
with our shoes off. We're in my space with our
shoes off.

Speaker 2 (02:25:25):
But why would he come Why would he come to
you with that type of managery? What what led him
to say that when all you asked his assistant to
do was to go get him because she's questioning why
people in your trailer have the truth.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
That's a good one, because what I said to him
was who do we need to talk to? This young
lady can't be up in here like that. And that's
when he became the head nigga in charge. And then
I said, who are you the head and nigga in
charge of? We have Danny Glover on this set, we
have a legend and the icon. Are you the head
nigga in charge of him? Are you the head nigga
in charge of kimble A? Are you the head and
nigga in charge of Gabrielle Union? Are you the head

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nigga in charge of JB. Smooth? Who are you the
head and nigga in charge of so? He tried to
laugh at and joke it. I said, I don't play
that way, brother. I said. The food is bad like
what we're doing here. The food was slopped. So when
they say they didn't have any food, the food we had,
nobody ever ate that food because it was just like
you can feed them anything. Now here's where it gets

(02:26:23):
even better. Remember how Taragie said the trailers were infested. Yes,
our trailers blew up. Wow, they blew up. Now, whenever
this airs, I'm gonna post the trailer's blowing up so
the people can see. But they blew up, and if
any of us were in those trailers, we would have

(02:26:45):
been gone. The trailers blew up. Now, when I was
smelling the gas, we went to the brothers that was
hooking up the trailers and we said, hey, we smell gas.
They said, mo let him know, talking about the head
nigga in charge. We let him know. He just said
okay and walk away. I said, he what he just

(02:27:06):
said okay and walked away. The trailers blew up. Did
we'll Packer reach out to anybody? I can't say. He
didn't reach out to me and say, hey, is everything okay?
Did you lose anything in the in the is everything good?
The only thing they wanted to know from me was
where was Aunt May's wigs? Huh where are those wigs?

(02:27:30):
Nobody asked, not the studio, not will Packer, not nobody
wow said are you good? Did you lose anything? I said,
the wigs blew up in the explosion. So to understand
what we have to deal with, and to understand most
people are too afraid to say it out loud that

(02:27:54):
we are being mistreated. This is this is this is
not right. So if that means y'all won't want to
play with me, I don't want to play with you either.
Let's be clear. I don't want to play with somebody
that don't care if I've blown up? What if we
were in those trailers? What do y'all say to my family?
What do you say? So with precious. I owe no

(02:28:18):
one anything. With almost Christmas, I owed you nothing. However,
I did it because we had a relationship with a
brother named David towert and we didn't want to send
him do no drama, no nothing, so we went along
with it. Other than that Shannon's Shop, there is no
one that can say that, will sit in my face,
on my husband's face and say we had a bad

(02:28:38):
experience with you.

Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
I read that you said, you read this is a
chapter of forgiveness. That's your thing chapter.

Speaker 1 (02:28:48):
I didn't say that. That's what the guy in Hollywood
reporter said. Okay, don't put words in my mouth. That's
not what I said. That's what his ass said. Okay, Okay,
that's what he said.

Speaker 2 (02:28:58):
Listen, what would it take more? What would it take
for Mo need to forgive Oprah and Tyler Perry.

Speaker 1 (02:29:10):
Be accountable, be accountable as.

Speaker 2 (02:29:14):
You old Tyler Perry to say what he said on
that tape. You want him to say that.

Speaker 1 (02:29:17):
Public and he cost my family millions. Yes, I want
to be very clear about that. If someone cost you millions,
do you want that bad?

Speaker 2 (02:29:27):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (02:29:27):
So. I'm no different than you, especially when I've done
nothing wrong, especially when you've admitted that you've lied, especially
when you've admitted that you started a rumor. Yes, you
need to compensate me and my family for Oprah. For
Oprah Winfrey, you owe me an apology. See Shannon, Oprah
and I had a private conversation about our mothers. This

(02:29:51):
the part people don't know. I shared with that woman
with me and my mother were going through. Now my
mother is no longer here, right, shared with Oprah Winfrey
what we were going through and how I felt. And
I was, you know, you trying to balance it off
because it's your mother. And I shared that with you,
and I shared with her my family and what the

(02:30:11):
dynamic was. And you don't tell me you're gonna have
my guide their parents. I was getting ready to say,
God damn baby, it was right there. But you don't
tell me your great had my mother and my father
on your show and you think that that's just okay.
And the way you try to apologize in front of
a group of women. If you think I've done anything wrong,

(02:30:32):
You're gonna stop that, right. I am very proud of
what you've accomplished in your life. We respect everybody, but
we over respect no one. And Oprah Winfrey walks around
like I can't be checked. I won't admit to that.
I'm no one is beyond no one at all. So

(02:30:52):
when you keep saying what is it, I'm gonna keep
answering you the same exact way. So if you talk
to your camera, I'm gonna talk to my camera and
see how they split the screen, and we're gonna invite
them at the same time. You talked to him first.

Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
Uh, Tyler, Oprah, I would greatly appreciate it if you
two guys would come on Club Shayshay, we sit down,
we have a conversation. This is not an interview, This
is not hard hitting. I want you to tell your truth,
miss Oprah or Tyler, tell your truth and we can
get to the bottom of this. Because hey, we got
an icon here sitting on this couch and she's.

Speaker 1 (02:31:23):
Hurting Oprah and Tyler. I want to say, I appreciate
my brother Shannon Shaw for saying what he just said,
and I want to clear something up. I'm not hurt personally.
I'm hurt for our community. I'm hurt that y'all would
allow yourselves to sit in something that you know that
you've done wrong and not say anything that helps us.

(02:31:43):
Not so Brother Shasha have said, y'all come on the sofa, Oprah.
This liper is good, Okay. And I understand you like
cranberry and vodka. Okay. Roosevelt cart Right told me your
drink that you like, and you know, he told me
some other things, but the drink that you're like. Come on,
uncle Shay, Shay, let's have a conversation. And well, you
took yours all the way down and I cannot okay, Okay,

(02:32:05):
I cannot. I cannot do that you already did. Thank you, sugar. Now,
when we get ready wrap up, I'm gonna give you
an exclusive on something that I don't nobody know. Okay,
don't nobody know this, And it's gonna be something.

Speaker 2 (02:32:17):
It's gonna be something.

Speaker 1 (02:32:18):
It's gonna be something I want to get you.

Speaker 2 (02:32:20):
Look, I know it's dramatic, and if you don't want
to have to relive it, you don't have to what
you went through with your brother, Yes, when you're going
through that, how is that impacting you during that time?
Because I think you're seven to thirteen.

Speaker 1 (02:32:43):
You better do your damn homework.

Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
Shannon Shaw and the impact that has had on you
and your relationship with men.

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
Oh Channing trying to be a journalist should not do this.
Look at you can't damn you see.

Speaker 4 (02:33:03):
You're trying to cut my brother.

Speaker 1 (02:33:04):
Woman's get off my brother. Were then time? Wow? Remember
when you said and I don't know if you said this,
so I don't want to quote it because I could
be wrong. But someone said, Shannon Sharp, don't mess with
black women.

Speaker 2 (02:33:25):
And before are you going to further? Can I say
this please? My grandmother told me something out the little boy.
She said, boy never chased a lie.

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
Come on, baby, come on, come on, and you never
said that, right, Okay, So that's why I said I
got black kids. That's what I said. I said that
baby's black black. Yes, they're not confusing. We ain't trying
to see if she Latin or Dominican. They black black,
They mama got black black. Everybody that's shying at mess
away was black black? Right, black black? Okay, So they

(02:33:59):
theyre as this thing with us that you can't tell
us nothing. And oftentimes when a black woman's been traumatized,
she's guarded. Now you take a black woman that's been
traumatized and now she got a little bit of money,

(02:34:22):
and you take black men, some of them that is
impressed with the money. So I can say to you
what I want to, not being totally disrespectful, but you
know who's running this, you know how we do this.
I've always had an aggressive personality. I have always jumped

(02:34:47):
with if I think you're trying to violate, So to say,
what did that do to me? It made me like this,
and it made me say I'll get you before you
can get me, because I know what it's like to
not be in control of what you're taking from me.

(02:35:09):
I know what it's like to be in a position
where there's nothing I can do right. So when it
came to men, baby, listen, I had my share. Okay,
I'm not saying I was no whore, but I was close. Hey,
come on now saying to get back to me, now,
get back to me, call me later, call me day

(02:35:30):
and called me later, baby, come on. Because you're a
football player with a lot of money. When you go
into a city and you was in your prime, you
had your pick. It's no different for a woman. When
I went into a city, everybody wanted to be Professor
Ogovich Hey, and I would pick him. Okay, you look
like you.

Speaker 2 (02:35:49):
Could think, bussy, here the thing now, all of a sudden,
you being this fat black woman. It ain't a problem. God,
I remember, I remember you say it was.

Speaker 1 (02:36:00):
They say that it wasn't never a problem with me
being a fat black woman because real black man, they like,
I'm in all and size. It's all complex and it
is these new nick rolls that get into she gotta
be this way, she gotta be that way. But real
black man, if you can make a poundcake, nugget what

(02:36:21):
y'all talk about? What's you talk about? But what it did, though,
was and this is why I feel the way I
feel about my husband.

Speaker 2 (02:36:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:36:31):
I remember him saying to me one night, because when
we first got together, I was a handful of Shannon
and that's when I was really sick in the way
that I thought. And he said, check this out. You've
used your brother molesting you as a crutch for your
bad behavior, he said, And I won't allow that, he said.
When you was a little girl, there was nothing you

(02:36:52):
can do about it. But now it's a grown woman.
Every choice and decision you make it is yours. And
I will not allow you to keep on saying because
of my brother, because at what point do you take
accountability for you baby? That grew me up in that night,
that grew my ass up that night so fast because
I wanted I wanted to hear what my psychiatry, my
psychiatrist was saying to me. I understand. My husband was like,

(02:37:15):
check this out, check this out. You are in control
of you, every choice and decision you make, every one
you lay down with, that was your choice. You've never
come back to me and said you were raped as
a grown woman. You've never said that. So stop holding
onto that crutch. Stop holding onto that victim. Because this
happened to me. I'm mad for days and not come

(02:37:38):
up out of that. And when I went to the psychiatrist,
right everything my husband said to me. The psychiatrist said
to me, but he said, I needed you to go
to somebody that had no dog in the fight because
I didn't want you to think I was judging you.
I didn't want you to think that because I know
the history. I'm pointing my finger. So when I I'll

(02:38:00):
go to that psychiatrist. Doctor Cassandra Juanso, she's incredible. You'll
want to know about red bottom shoes. Let me tell
you somebody that's gonna get your mind right, Doctor Cassandra Wanso.
This woman was incredible, But every time I would go
to session, everything she said my husband had already told me,
so me and men. I had to come to grips
with that. I had to come to grips with being

(02:38:22):
an insecure fat girl. And I had to come to
grips with my sister telling me, ain't no man gonna
ever really want you because you're fat. I had to
come to grips with my father was like, listen, I'm here,
but I'm really not. I had to come to grips
with those things. So my way of coming to grips
with those things was now I'm a boss, I'm independent,
and I'm empowered. Don't you know I run this? See

(02:38:42):
I too went to the Oprah Winford University of Empowerment
and you don't need a man to make it. I
signed up and I was at the top of the
class till I realized I was going to be it empty.
I was going to bed with nothing but stuff. I
did not want to be the poor little rich girl
who had everything but nothing at all. Don't that sound familiar?

(02:39:03):
I did not want to be that Shannon. So even
for the men, even for the men that I was with, right.

Speaker 2 (02:39:11):
You worked with them.

Speaker 1 (02:39:13):
I wasn't no Okay, talk to me, Shannon. Not that
liquor usual. I wasn't with them.

Speaker 2 (02:39:19):
That was just the body for the lonely.

Speaker 1 (02:39:24):
Liquor makes sh it sound good moment. Liquor would make
you not sound like a whole. It was just a
body for the lonely. Let me tell you what my
husband told me. Right, because I was at teas, I'm like,
I'm you know, I was. I was a whole. I
was crying. I was because because when you come to
grips with it, when you realize how many, when you
realize what you've done, and you got to come to

(02:39:45):
grips with it. And now I'm sitting in front of
the greatest person I've ever met, and I gotta say,
I have been with this many. And my husband looked
at me and said, Mama, you ain't no whore. You
just had friendly pussy. Didn't he make it right? Pussy?
So for you ones out there, friendly pussy, That's what

(02:40:09):
he told me. He made it right.

Speaker 2 (02:40:11):
So did you ever have a good relationship with your father?

Speaker 1 (02:40:17):
Yes, when I was a little girl little. When I
was a little girl, my father could do no wrong.
When I was a little girl baby, my father would
put me in that car and he would go to
the cut Race store and he'd get his liquor and
he go over mister Johnny House. Now I'm a little girl, right,
He go over mister Johnny House and him and mister
Johnny going back, and I could smell a reefer, but
I didn't know it was reefer, right, and they smoking,

(02:40:37):
they had their little drink to come back out. I
was attached to him. Me and my father start having
a problem when what he was saying to me wasn't
making sense. And now I'm about thirteen. He was just
he was. He was a bullshitter, but he was a
good sound and bullshitter. And so as a kids, you'd
be like my father know everything. But once I started

(02:40:58):
growing up, I started seeing the treatment that he gave
my mother. Never physically abusive, but mentally they abused one another.
I won't just put it on. But once I started
questioning him on just some of his decisions and choices,
I became the bad person. And I went to my
grandmother one time, Mini, I talked about her and my father.

(02:41:25):
This was one incident that sent me to my grandmother
bent over crying. I was trying to get a Ford
Festiva right. It was four gears, okay, it was about
two dollars, but I didn't have the two dollars and
I needed a co signer. So I asked my father
please co sign for me to get this for in festive,

(02:41:47):
and I'm gonna quote him. He said, Nikki, you won't
fuck up my credit. And I'm like, well, what have
I ever done to make you think I would fuck
up your credit? If I pay my rent on time,
I'm responsible. I go to work. No, the next week,
not only did he co sign for my sister, he
just signed for my sister, like he put the car

(02:42:07):
in his name right. I go to my grandmother and
I'm like, Mammy, why would he do that? Like she said, Nikki,
every parent knows their weakest link, and every parent knows
the one that's gonna be okay. She said, you're gonna
be okay. At that point, I wiped my tears and

(02:42:28):
I'm glad he didn't co sign. I'm glad I had
to bust my ass to get it. I'm glad I
had to figure it out. I'm glad he didn't just
come and rescue it. I had to figure it out.
So that's why right now, when I sit here and
you go through a decade of being black ball or whatever,
you're difficult and all. Let it allowed me to keep standing.

(02:42:48):
It allowed me not to It allowed me not to
go sit on a couch with Oprah Winfrey and say
I'm sorry for nothing I've ever done to you. That's
what those lessons taught me. Stand in it and stand strong, unapologetically.

Speaker 2 (02:43:02):
You speak a lot doing this interview. You spoke a
lot about curses than the trauma. How do we break
that generational trauma, that curse that is in our community?

Speaker 1 (02:43:12):
What we've said from the beginning, and that's truth, it's
just the truth. We get so comfortable based off of
lies that the lies become the truth. I think if
we just started dealing with the truth, address, address it.
Even when it doesn't put you in a good light,
it eventually does put you in the good light because

(02:43:33):
then people start talking about your honor and your character
and your integrity. If I've wronged you, please tell me,
Please tell me, and then show me where I've wronged you.
If you can say, Monique, this is what you did
right here, then I owe you an apology. But if
our community dealt in truth, how much further would we be?

(02:43:54):
That's it. That's how I think we make it better.
We deal in the absolute truth.

Speaker 2 (02:43:59):
But sometimes, you know, it's kind of like what I
tell people. I would explaining to someone, I said, just
imagine you went to the doctor and Lord forbid, that's happened.
You have cancer, but we're not gonna treat it. It's
gonna go away. No doctor will tell you that you
have something going on. We're not gonna talk about it.
It'll just go away.

Speaker 1 (02:44:18):
That's what they bank on. That's what they bank on.
And too many of our black women have gone to
their graves. They've left here in despair. They've left here
broken hearted, broken, broke down. And we got a chance
to see it Enliven in person with our beautiful sister
to Rogi Hinson.

Speaker 2 (02:44:39):
What gave you the courage? Your Netflix? They offer you
one thing you found out they had gave someone ten
times that, no, twenty times, come on, six twenty six
times that And you're like no, no, no, no, no, no
no no no no no no no, I'm not We're
not gonna do that. We're gonna do fair. That's what

(02:45:02):
we do. I mean, you speak about diversity, and you
talk about doing the right thing. Okay, this is an
opportunity for you to put that instead of being lib service. Okay,
pay in the paper. Let's make it right.

Speaker 1 (02:45:12):
I didn't know any other way. I didn't know any
other way. See when I heard Wanda Syke say I
support you, I just want somewhere else. I don't know
how to do that, especially when it's wrong. If we
keep just going somewhere else, we'll keep getting mistreated. But
when you hear Amy Schumer and this was not something
I found out, they publicly said it. It was pride.

(02:45:35):
We paid Amy Sherman eleven million. She came back and said,
I'm not a legend or icon, but I should get
at least two more million, and they gave a thirteen million. Well,
when Netflix says to me, you are a legend, you
are an icon. When Robbie Prat says that, well, why
is my legend in icon different then these people legend
in icon? That's all. And when I say we were

(02:45:57):
able to come to the table and we were able
to make it makes sense and we were able to
do the special, and we appreciated them saying, listen, how
can we work this out? Now? You know what happens
with that? People were having callings when I said, this
is not right. I was donky the other day. Remember
that I was donkey of the day. The Breakfast Nubs

(02:46:19):
called me the donkey of the day, That's what they said.
And they had a whole calling about how I was
donkey of the day. But you didn't do the same
thing when you found out was settled. Now all of
a sudden, don't nobody know what the settlement is. I mean,
well we don't even really. It was really really quick.
We just want to throw it away. So with that

(02:46:39):
Netflix special, it was just it was just like, no, guys,
I gotta I gotta stand up because if not, that
little girl coming behind me for real, right, that has
that resume. I want to let her know you can fight, baby, right,
you just don't have to say, okay, you can stand.

Speaker 2 (02:46:57):
Would you be willing to do another Netflix netflik specially? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:47:01):
I had a great time. I had a great time.
I had a great time. Now for me, specials are specials.
It's something special, So you know, we'll see right.

Speaker 2 (02:47:13):
You know, I'm wanted to ask people that I hear
our community called you know, the community called me a
and they call you Auntie. Yes, do you wear that
with a badge of courage like I do?

Speaker 1 (02:47:26):
I wear it? That was such an honor for you
babies to put Auntie on my name. Do y'all know
how that made me feel? And I'm not the auntie
that's gonna tell you the shit that you want to hear.
I'm the auntie that's gonna tell you what you need
to hear. So for the things that I have said
about our community and our babies and our sisters, I

(02:47:47):
cannot back down. Because y'all gave me the title. I
didn't ask for it, But when they gave it to me, Shannon,
that was the universe saying you now sit in that seat.
You are now responsible. That's why I must set and
I must speak gladly, and I must say it to
the top of my lungs, because God damn, I Fanily
lou Hama didn't do it for me. God damn if

(02:48:08):
Kate didn't do it for me, God damn if Mom's
maybe didn't do it for me. The ones that came
before us and as a woman still alive named Sylvia
Treymore Morrison. That woman got paid in a Coca Cola.
That woman got paid in a Coca Cola at her
next gig and five dollars. She was the first black
woman to write for Saturday Night Live. But they have
a listed as a production assistant and she's still alive.

(02:48:32):
That's why I speak the way I speak because I
will not let them wash her out of history as
if she never existed.

Speaker 2 (02:48:40):
Wow, daty, what what advice is somebody? If if a
group of women were in here, it's like, come on,
they talked to us, how this dating? Because this is
is moas different now.

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
When it's different. Baby, I'm grateful I'm not fifty six
and trying. But you try to say to say I'm
looking right at you, I ain't bang it down. You
better take your own ass and get somebody to love you.

Speaker 2 (02:49:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:49:10):
I'm looking right. Tell y'all, what's Shannon knee? I tell you,
I tell you what my baby kneed. He need him
old fat down broo. Then bake good cakes, make some
smother turkey wings. Who gonna rub his feet at the
night time? Okay? And gonna have a sip of his
cognac to make him feel better by himself when they
come home at night. That's what Shannon need. You don't
need no twenty six year old girl. You don't need

(02:49:31):
no thirty six year old girl. This is your auntie
talking to you. Take your own ass and get your
old bitch out there that can love your old You're
trying to hang out with these young bitches and you
can't do it. Saying it, you just can't do it.
When they want you to go for the fourth round,
you're looking at her like, bitch, listen, I need you.
You want some money to go to stop us because
I can't go my further. But if you get your

(02:49:51):
wholder girl, when you get to that fourth roun, she's
gonna say, hold on, hold on, let me go get
you some eggs and cheese and some toast with apple butter,
because I gonna get your energy back up. I'm talking
right to you. Ship. So he thought I was gonna
be scared, because yes, I'm talking. I know old gal,
she'd be good to you. Her name is Eldora. Now
when you know somebody named el door old school, Now,

(02:50:14):
Miss Elladora told me to tell you. She said, I
think he like red velvet. I say, miss Elladora, if
you do like her, she said, you let him know.
I got something fun. You don't have no teeth. Come on,
pick your glass up and the young girls will bite you.

Speaker 2 (02:50:31):
Okay, yeah, okay, I got guess. I gotta come on home.

Speaker 1 (02:50:35):
Come on home, saying it. And y'all stop putting lines
out about my brother, because I was in my feelings
when y'all said he didn't date black women. Y'all stop
that ship. You're stopping that he might throw a white
women there every now and and it's okay, It's okay
because sometimes there you we ain't into everything. We don't
do everything. So sometimes Uncle Shay sheh't need a spice

(02:50:58):
of life across the street. But he always gonna come back,
That's all we said. And you open Tyler, Come on home,
Come on home, Come on home, Come on home.

Speaker 2 (02:51:08):
Seerra says, a lot of women talk about Cererl's prayer,
but when the God says a good man, they don't
want them. Is that true?

Speaker 1 (02:51:15):
I cannot speak for them. I can only speak for
me because when the universe sent mine to.

Speaker 2 (02:51:19):
Me, baby, you was ready.

Speaker 1 (02:51:21):
And he sent that man to me. Even this morning,
I thank the universe for that man. Right there, before
I came on air with you, I was talking to him.

Speaker 2 (02:51:30):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:51:30):
He said, Mama, you heard me talking? Yes, he Hey, Daddy,
yeah I did. Because we've not been trained. We've not
been conditioned to understand you. We've been trained to fight
against you. We've been trained to go against you. We've
watched our mamas, our grandmamas, our aunties speak ill of
a black man. So now when a black man comes,

(02:51:51):
any good, you waiting for the bad because grandmama told
you black men one shit. Mama told you black oneman, shit,
your auntie said black man and shit. So all you
have even your mind is black man ain't shitting. So
when you get that beautiful black man, he's now got
to say to you, erase everything they told you because
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (02:52:08):
Or then you treat it like that and then he goes,
and then you talk about it.

Speaker 1 (02:52:11):
Now you're mad because he didn't want you, the white girl. Shannon. Now,
y'all start treating Shanning good. Okay, start treating them good. Now, Shanon,
I got to catch my plane.

Speaker 2 (02:52:20):
Okay, this is last night.

Speaker 1 (02:52:21):
Unless you want to send me back on your jet.

Speaker 2 (02:52:23):
I wish I had one. I wish I had one,
But I'm gonna get you out here on this.

Speaker 1 (02:52:26):
See what y'all did you.

Speaker 2 (02:52:27):
Heard what Shaq saying, Shack saying, say the ass Shaq?
Should a man open up to a woman? Shaq said, No,
he says, because if you do, they're gonna use it
against you. He said, because if I break, if I'm
crying about something, they gonna say the first time they
get mad, they're gonna say, see you crying cause your
daddy said what he said?

Speaker 1 (02:52:44):
How do you take advice from a man who has
no woman? And I love Shaq, but how do you
take advice from my brother that has no one?

Speaker 2 (02:52:52):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:52:54):
If you have that person in your life and you say, listen,
I'm dealing, I'm going through. Who do you talk to
at nighttime and you'll pillow talk? Who else do you
share your life with? Who are you sharing with your
life with? Shaq? Do you tell another man about your
situation and does he make you feel better?

Speaker 2 (02:53:10):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:53:11):
Who do you share your life with?

Speaker 2 (02:53:13):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:53:13):
I don't agree with that at all, And I love
my brother, but I don't agree with that. I think
that makes the vision because if I gotta call my
girl and I talk to my husband. When I heard
Oprah say, and these are her words, not mine, she said,
when I be stressed out and I'd be going through it,
after the show, I would come home and Gail could
calm me down and put me to sleep. What's you say?

Speaker 2 (02:53:36):
What's that much?

Speaker 1 (02:53:37):
Okay? Then you said it.

Speaker 2 (02:53:41):
Here. I would get Oprah on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:53:43):
But those are her words. So I believe that partnership
is partnership all the way around. When I leave this earth,
there is nothing my husband will not know about me,
and the other way around.

Speaker 2 (02:53:52):
Did you know after your first two marriages you get
married again.

Speaker 1 (02:53:55):
Yes, because my first two marriages were just marriages. Of
My first marriage was you just couldn't have the milk
without buying the cow. That was the first marriage. And
we were boxes every We were Friday night fights. Okay, okay,
we were It wasn't domestic bolence. We was friday night fights. Okay.
I took a l sometime, but sometime I didn't. Okay, okay,
okay okat. The second one was I couldn't afford to

(02:54:19):
pay my rent and I didn't want to have a boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (02:54:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:54:22):
So that's why I said, this is the first time
I've really been married.

Speaker 2 (02:54:25):
Tell me the story that you wanted to share that
nobody else knows that you was going to share with us.

Speaker 1 (02:54:30):
You all ready for this, I'm ready for it. I
want you to move in. That man that was sitting
right here on this couch, his name is Kat Williams. Yes,
Cat Williams and I have a relationship with fraternal twins.

(02:54:51):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (02:54:51):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:54:53):
That said. That is my twin, my spiritual fraternal non
by logic brother. We're a twins, baby, Yes we are.
That was it, and that was all. Don't nobody know
that but you, Cat Williams don't even know that s it.
That's what makes it so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (02:55:08):
So Cat, I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him
and say, hey, I met your sister for the bed person.

Speaker 1 (02:55:14):
I need you to tell him.

Speaker 2 (02:55:17):
Do you want to promote anything? You got anything you
want to promote that?

Speaker 1 (02:55:24):
Here's what I'll say. Just keep watching, Just keep watching.
I'm promoting life. Just keep watching. And I love y'all
for real, my babies.

Speaker 2 (02:55:37):
Thank you for watching. Monique, ladies and gentlemen, thank you
so much. I really appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:55:44):
All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, Rustle, bad Price,
wanna slice, got.

Speaker 1 (02:55:52):
All my life? I'll be grinding all my life, all
my life, grinding all my life, sacri fights, Crustle, Bad Price.

Speaker 3 (02:56:00):
One slide the brown dice to swap all my life.
I'll be running all my life.

Speaker 4 (02:56:07):
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