Megan Thee Stallion

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My ring. Yeah, definitely paid like a million for my
ring a million. I gotta set the tone for the
man that I want in the future, because you gotta
know what I want. I ain't gonna never let nobody
short change me.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Man, Man, you do realize a million dollar for admin
is a.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Lot, Yes, coome Man.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I do.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Things that make me happy. I was talking shit.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
All my life, grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Sacrifice hustle, pet Price, one slice, got the Brothers squat
all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all
my life, and drining all my life. Sacrifice Hustle, pa Price,
one slice, got the brother dist.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Squat all my life.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shape Shay. I
am your host, Shannon Sharp, but also the propride of
Club shap Sha and today we're at Spotlight. La, the
young lady that's talking Buy for Conversation and the drink today,
is a three time Grammy Award winning recording artist. One
of the most influential people in the world. She's the
first woman in history to have three number one streaming
songs in the same season. She's the first solo female

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rapper to debut at the top Billboard Global Chart two hundred.
She's also the first black female to appear on the
cover of Forbes thirty Under thirty. One of the rap's
hardest stars. Houston raised multi platinum sing songwriter, a talented dancer,
arena performing artist, a model, actor, college graduate, global superstar,
a mogul in the making, an icon for women in

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philanthropists or boss, the trailblazer, a role model to many.
She embodied supreme self confidence, a true national treasure. The
CEO of The Hot Girl Summer, the Hottest Girl herself,
Magda Stallion.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Wow, I don't even know how.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
You do it?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Did I do you?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
That was amazing? I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, thank you Meg.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Before we go into further, I want to apologize to
you personally, and I didn't you know, I always wanted
to sit down and have a conversation with you. I
didn't know if that was going to be possible, but
I was always hoping that I got an opportunity to
bump into you because I made a comment. I think
it was like September October, and I told a joke
and it was I said it in jest, but I
believe the joke would have been just as funny had
I left you out of it. So for any unwanted atension, harm, shame,

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embarrassment that I call you or your family, I want
to say, as a man, as I sit here before you.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I apologize.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, anytime someone comes on the show, we have
to toast because you have an amazing you. You've been
amazing and you have an amazing career going forward. So
this is my personal kangyac shaved by Lapotier.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, shaved by Laportier.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's what it's called. Shaved by Lapotier.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Lemon a, okay, because you know I'm the kogynac queen.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay, yeah, okay, you knows it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
This is what he called. It's called nosing.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
You saw me, Okay, hold on, Okay, I was waiting
on it to really like sting me.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's just it's smooth as yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Okay, yeah, I was waiting on it to tear me.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yut no, no, no, no no no, we don't do that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Okay, Well, thank you that we can know what we're
gonna send you send your way with a bottle with
your very own thank you, thank you, thank you. I
really appreciate this checked us out, you know what. Congratulations
on your first headline arena. Yeah, arenaa arena tour. How
does it feel because they're lying she can't. I mean,

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Mag's okay, but she you know, small, she can't do
no arena?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
How does it feel to shut those down?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I feel really appreciative that I have so many hobbies
that want to come see me do my thing. Like
I performed my whole body of work on this tour
and just to see how many people want to come
out and turn up with me, and they cowboy hats
and they chaps and they anime clothes, I'm like, yes,
cosplay all my hoddies. Is just fun and we had
a blast, and we still having a blast. We're still
on tour.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
You're the first female rapper, hold on, you hold the
highest tocent tenders at Madison Square guard.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Over fourteen thousand. Yeah, let that thinking that there have.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Been a lot of women that are There have been
a lot of female rappers that have performed at the MSG.
That's the hot bet. I mean, there's no big arena
in America than MSG. You the highest attendance. How does
that make you feel?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Meg?

Speaker 1 (04:17):
It make me feel like I must be doing something
right right. It just made me feel really good. When
I went in there, I saw a lot of hotties
that I had seen before because I've been performing in
New York for a long time. So when I came
and I saw like my day one New York people
like in the pit, like screaming and cheering for me.
People were giving me my flowers. I was like, wow,
me from the South, I'm on here in New York
really killing sit like this. I was so happy.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Did you know that was possible? Were you a little apprehensive? Like,
I know I got the hits, I know I produced
good music, I know they liked me, but msg filling
up an arena?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Did you think that was possible? Were you a little nervous?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, it ain't never. It's nothing that I never thought
I couldn't do. Like I didn't get this tour and think, damn,
I'm gonna be able to seale seats Like.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I ain't think like that.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, yeah, I think like, I know, I'm gonna come
in here and kill it. If you're not a hoty,
I'm about to make you a hottie, right, beachro I'm like,
I never went into this tour thing of Damn, I'm finna,
I'm finna fuck up. Like I came into it thinking
I'm gonna go out here and perform for my people
and we're gonna have a good time. And that's exactly
what we've been doing the whole time. It's been like
a big ass party the whole tour yet half.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
And I'm looking at like Cardi b performed at the
sold I show. You had shot Sunday service with Lotto Flow,
Miller Glow, Uhriller opened up for you, Billy Glow, Milly Flow,
Millie Blow, Milly my bad, my bad, not Glow Riller Flow,
Milly Glow open up for you. And I'm looking at
Gabrielle Union to Roger p Henson showed up at your
LA show. The Real Housewives cast of Atlanta showed up.

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How does it make you feel with so many celeb that,
entertainers and athletes showing up at your show.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
A lot of the girls that popped out to my show,
like I know them personal, okay, Like the Atlanta Housewives,
I'm a huge fan. So when they came, I was
I was messed up. I was like, girl, we got
Kennas ain't the same route, so I was. I was
so excited to see them because this is this is
what I do. Like, I love reality TV like I
love retion TV. Not that the Housewives a ratchet but

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a little bit. I just love that's just they classy
and rat who she ratchet. But when they came in there,
I said, girl, I'll be watching y'all all the time.
I can't believe I can't even watch me. So I
was so happy about that. I was super appreciative of that.
All my female rapper friends that came like I really
me and a lotto.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Cuts up like I love seeing y'all on stage.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
We gets down so like when she popped out, like
it was only right. It was only natural that I
come to Lanta and we gotta have big Lite come out.
That was my first time beting Flow Millie. Really, that
was my first time being Flow. And I didn't think
she was gonna be my hype because usually everybody's tiny.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right, but Flo talkland thing like me.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I said, what's up? Friend? We all why are you
doing it? She's so talented. I was so happy to
meet her. Glow. We have gotten so close. Yeah, over
this whole experience, like I knew I was don't like
her before I met her.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I could see y'all being best this because I've had it's.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Really my girl, Like, yeah, I feel like my family
at this point, like a whole team, Like we just
be together all the time.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Right, What does it mean for the sisterhood?

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Because it seemed like all the people, all the young
ladies that you're describing, it seemed like you guys really
have a say, you ladies that really have a bond,
like you really formed a sisterhood.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, Like I don't know. I really don't go out
of my way to try to be cool with anybody
in the industry, and that's happening. Yeah, just like let
it naturally happen. And the relationships that I have right now,
they just feel supernatural. Like and I'm gonna keep emphasizing
the relationship with Glow because it just we met and
then ever since then, it was just like no girl,

(07:36):
come come over here, like we us two, right, She's
so sweet meeting.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I mean, you said Flow Melli, Well that was your
first time media. What impressed you most about, like Flow Millie,
you meeting for the first time or obviously you Glow.
You say you've become very close with Glow. What impressed
you most about when you first met these.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
It did It was not an awkward interaction like sometimes
I feel like you meet somebody and you immediately try
to Sometimes people are trying to act too cool. Sometimes
people act a little bougie or they act like you're
about to try to do something to them. Like I
feel like we all first met each other and we
was immediately like in They're like, we're talking, we having fun.
Like nobody had no ego, Like that's what I really
enjoyed about them. Nobody had a big ego like we

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always equals.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
So it's like a situation like sometimes you go somewhere
you see them and they be like, I ain't gonna
go over there till she come over her speaks.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Because it be like that's really like and like, especially
in the industry, you know, sometimes it'd be a popularity contest, right,
everybody has an ego. Everybody's a superstar, and you know,
as you should. You don't know how somebody gonna act.
You just walk up on them because you never know
what kind of reaction you're gonna get. So I understand
when you don't want to just immediately approach somebody because
you don't know what they're gonna say to you. But

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in this instance and the girls that I'm cool with,
the first time we ever met each other, it was
just natural. It was like, WHI ch'all like you know,
ch'all like you So what's up?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So what was it like for me in Houston? You
brought out Bun Bee, you brought out Slim Thug, you
brought out some of the Houston's biggest and brightest, But
that's your hometown, you bought and raised. That had to
be an amazing feeling that you come back and you
get the love from my hometown.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, I was so happy. Like I'm such a big
fan of UGK. Everybody know, I'm seeing the snow because
of obviously Tony Snow which Pimco, but bun Getting that
cold sign from bun mean everything because this is who
I grew up listening to, right, Slim Thug, here food,
but like here Houston legend, Paul wall Zero, Like these

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are the dudes that you hear when you turn on
the radio every morning in Houston, every afternoon, every night.
Like so being able to say I'm on the same
stage as the people I grew up listening to I
must be I must be that girl.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
So what was it like? Obviously Bun is the mayor
of Nothing goes through Houston without Bun. I mean, he'd
give you his stamp of approval and you good to
go anywhere and anywhere in Houston. And you mentioned Paul Wall,
you mentioned Sli, I mean, so what was it like
to be embraced by them?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's like, hey, we got your girl.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I feel like they wouldn't endorse something they didn't believe in,
Like they wouldn't just be behind something just for the
sake of some cloud shit. Like I feel like they
came up there and they did they think because they
really support me, like and I like the way they
stand behind me. I like the way that they hold
me down like everything don't got to come to the
internet as far as support. But I thought that was
a big moment that they came and supported me publicly

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on stage in our city.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I've been sitting down with you for ten minutes and
I can already tell you big on authenticity, you big
on genuine You don't deal with fate.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's because I've been through it. Okay, So when I
was first coming up, I thought, and my mama and
my daddy used to tell me this all the time,
because I got a big problem with this. They used
to tell me all the time. Everything that grant ain't
your friend. It's a whole world going on around you.
Stop trying to be so nice to everybody, cause everybody's
not gonna get that same treatment. So I've been through
a phase in life where I have to figure out
just because I'm so damn nice and I'm so friendly

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and I'm so open, that doesn't mean that everybody else
is gonna be that to me. Like I thought, if
I just be nice and I'll be myself, everything gonna
be okay. Like you must be being nice in being
yourself too, Like why would you want to do anything
to hurt me. I'm not trying to hurt you. But
I have to figure out, bitch, I'm winning this whole
little lamb, Like I'm just running around here like a
little rabbit waiting to get hunted. So I really appreciate

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it when I meet somebody that feels real and genuine,
because it's hard to let your guard down, especially in
this type of space.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Can you sense when people are not being authentic with you.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think I have a better sense now, Like I'm
not the type of person who come into a situation
expecting somebody to be fake or expecting somebody to want
to do something malicious. Like I come into a situation
and I'm like, I'm about to be nice. I'm about
to be the best person I could be. I'm gonna
treat you how I want to be treated, and hopefully
you're about to do that to me. So it's kind

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of hard for me to sense sometimes when somebody's doing wrong,
because why do I have to expect you to be
ready to hurt me? Like, why won't you just be nice?
Because That's what I'm doing to you. So I'm getting
better at it.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Getting better.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, I read that, Uh Pempc's wife and you mentioned
Pimp that he gave you a lot of his unreleased
verses shout out to.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Is he gonna make an appearance on the.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
PEMC is on the album?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Okay? Okay?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Like I have a PEMC verse. Me make you say,
everybody know PIMC is my favorite rapper and I have
a PIMC verse. That's nuts. That's gonna be real big
for the South.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I feel like, how did that come about?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
So Juicy J and juw are my guys, and they've
been knowing that I've been looking for a pimp verse.
So one day I came to the studio and Jew
was like, I got something for you, and he played
it for me and I was like, Jew, shut the fuck.
So after he played it with we cried a little

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bit because PEMPC is youw favorite rapper too, So we
cried a little bit and we could believe it, and
we just was looking at each other like them like,
I can't believe. We've been talking about this for years
and we finally got it. So yeah, shout out to
Juicy Jam and Little ju because that's who gave it
to me.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Victoria Monette, let me ask you a question. This album
that's coming out, is it gonna be a we're gonna have?
Like because you like you've been holding it very very tight.
You ain't let a whole lot of people know who's
on the album and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Why you're holding it so close to the best.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well because in my previous experience will releasing music myself
be leaking?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Oh really?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, Like I just wasn't in the best situation to
where I could surprise my fans like the way that
I wanted to. And now I'm in a space where
I'm in complete control. So I've been trying to like
just whold it real near and dear until the day
of okay, because I don't want I don't want no leaks, right,
I don't want you. I want you to be genuinely
surprised when you turn an album off. So when I

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finally released the track list with the features on there,
I was nervous because I was like, oh my god,
I don't want anybody to I don't want anybody else
engineered to be on nothing silly and they accidentally lead
something or I didn't want nobody else to play it.
I don't know. I was very nervous. But it's out now.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
So you're on your Janet Jackson, You're on your control tour. Huh.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah. I just realized I might be kind of a
control free I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
About really what now what gave it away?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I didn't know that about me until recently.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, I think I think a woman in your position.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
You, Yeah, I might be, but I gotta be. I
like things the way.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That I like you, Right, you think people.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
You think people look at you and because you're a
female try to take advantage of you, or they tried.
Maybe not now because you're vetting the game.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I don't even know if it's because I'm a female
that they tried to take advantage of me. I think
it's just because I'm so nice that they tried to
take advantage of me.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
They take your kindness with weakness.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
They do. They was taking my kindness for weakness, like
I put a lot of people above myself. I used
to put a lot of people above myself all the time,
Like I would try to do things where Okay, this
might hurt me, but at least I won't be hurting
ten other people. Like I would never put myself first.
So I'm in the era of putting myself first.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, but damn you hurting you, but you prop it
up everybody.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean, well, because I feel like I'll be hurt
for a little while. Like I know how to get
over things right, but I feel like I don't know.
I just didn't want to hurt other people feelings right
at the sake of having my own feelings hurt. But
now I don't really like that, Like I don't want
my feelings hurt either, so I'm just protecting my piece.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
What was it like working with Victorian in the studio?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Victoria is everything. She's so sweet and apparently we look alike,
so we talk about that all the time. Victoria's lip.
That's what I would say.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
So let's just say for the album. I guess albums
normally drop on like a Tuesday. We're not gonna know
who's actually on the album until what.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
No, So there's only one feature that people don't know
about yet. Okay, but my track lists, who are with
the features on there is already out.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's only one you know that must be special?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
You gott oh God, like I'm just got the feature
is special.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Everybody on my album is special to me, right? The
reason why the feature is hidden? Do I want to
say why the feature is hitting? Yeah? Why the feature
was hidden because I wasn't sure at first if this
song was actually going to go on the album.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, now that the song, now, the song is going
to go on the album.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So that's why the name wasn't on the track list.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
When I when I look at you and I think
of you, and i've heard you speak before, you are
very you're a very strong woman, and now that you're
independent because you financed this whole.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Because now it's coming out Intohigh Girl Productions.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Okay, yeah, so let me ask you this, why did
you Why did you feel because I'm sure there are
a lot of recording there are a lot of album
record labels that wanted made.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Why did you choose to go.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I've been in a situation where I felt like I
was so out of control for the longest. And when
I say out of control, like I didn't really have
complete control over my music. I could barely go perform
when I felt like it. They couldn't use my music
in commercials. I had to literally go to court every
time I wanted to drop a song. So I just
was like, you know what I need to do what's

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best for me, Like I appreciate what a label can
do for you, but if y'all can't agree to these terms,
and I don't want to do it, So I wouldn't
gonna go nowhere where they wasn't gonna give me what
I was worth and they weren't gonna give me what
I was asking for. But that's how I wanted with
my distribution for Warner because they believe in me, and
it's really like a trusting I feel like when you

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signed to a label, like it's all business at the
end of the day, but you still want to be
somewhere where y'all could trust each other. I know you
ain't gonna mess over me, and I'm not gonna mess
over you. We both need to win. They seemed like
they wanted to win with me. They didn't want to
win with without me. It wasn't a situation where I
feel like, Okay, we're gonna do this with it without you. No,
they wanted to win together, and that's what I liked

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about wanting.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You keep talking about control, but I'm looking at you.
You will control for.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
You going to control what I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm coming to terms with this, like, oh, you were
trying to deny it.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I was trying to deny it because I didn't really
know what that meant at first. Okay, but I think
you know. I figured out I'm claustophobic, right, I don't
like heights, And I had to start figuring out why,
why do I Why am I scared of heights? Why
am I clausophobic? I don't want to be closed up
in nothing that I can't get out of.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, I don't want to go up.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Too high because I can't turn around. I will not
do no, I won't even walk in the room. I
don't know how to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
So you ain't do it. The roller coasters, huh, No, what.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
You got. I'm putting my life in this person hands,
in this machine eighty two years old. You you eighteen
in this machine eighty two. You don't even know this thing.
So I definitely ain't about to let you run me
up then turn me upside down?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, right, no?

Speaker 3 (18:59):
So does it feel better knowing that you're in total control?
The music's gonna come out exactly how Meg wanted it,
everything's gonna get you know what.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
You have to also take up into account the things
that you cannot control. I'm gonna be in control of
the things that I can be in control of because
when you I feel like, when you're trying to do
something great, it's always gonna be some bumps's yeah, something
that's gonna be out of your control. But I've controlled
all of the things that I could. Like right now,
I'm actually going through it because I had a sample
on my album that's an anime sample and everything was

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going so smooth. At first they were like, okay, yeah, fine,
sure she could use it. Then they were like, well, actually,
if you do a video, you can't dress up like
none of the characters in this in this show. So
I said, okay, I'm whatever, I won't do it. I'm grateful,
thank you. Then they said last night, when was this?
I found this out yesterday at my show the night

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before that. They said, well, you can't say none of
the names. This is a whole hook.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
What damn?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's what I said. And they still haven't got back
to me yet about what I could do.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
So now if they didn't want you to use it,
why they say yes, because you can't dress.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Up as the character. You can't say the character's name.
What damn?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
What can I do? But if I can't go to battle,
no chance with them? Can I go? Well, now we're
gonna we're gonna be optimistic because we're on two different
times on so that's what's kind of messing it up too,
like the communication. But we're gonna see what comes out tonight.
We're gonna see what they approve, and hopefully they approve
something about time the album come out because baby I
didn't already do what I have to do. It's a
God's hands right now.

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Speaker 3 (21:55):
Are you finding out things that you didn't have to
worry about when you was with a label?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Because now all that, now that I'm the boss, I'm
figuring out.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
There's a lot, but there's a lot more to it.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I'd be like, what are y'all asking me? What are
you talking about? I gotta do what so I'm learning right,
But I love it.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
How does it feel to be your own boss?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It feels really good. Can nobody tell me? Nobody tell
me what to do? Can't nobody tell me where to
be right. Can't nobody tell me nothing. Y'all can tell
me stuff, but it's up to me if I listen
to that.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Right, let me ask you this, what do you what
is your take? Do you do you or do you
believe in ghostwriters? Do you write a lot of your
own raps?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean I do.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I do write all my own verses. I will take
a hook from somebody, Okay, I feel like there's nothing
wrong with getting suggestions. When my mom was alive, my
mama and me used to go back and forth freestyling.
Or she'll listen to something I wrote or something I recorded.
She'd be like, you can stay it harder than that. Yeah,
She'll be like, Mom, like that, MoMA was like, you

(22:54):
could just stay harder than that. You, She'll she'll say,
you ain't going hard enough. You need to go in
there and do it again. So taking suggestion from somebody,
I feel like it's cool. Like everybody need a little inspiration,
But me personally, like, I like to write my own
verses cause it's very hard for me to say things
that I did not write. It's very hard for me
to believe what I'm saying if I ain't had but

(23:17):
I don't think nothing wrong with you getting help because
I'm gonna take some help on the hook, right because
I talk a lot, so I'm a i'mna write them verses.
But when it gets to the hook, I feel like
you gotta be catchy, you gotta be simple. It gotta
be straight to the point, and I'll be talking, so
somebody gotta I'll take your advice. Yeah, I'll take advice.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Have you written for other people? Will you write for
other people? Have you written for other people? You ain't
got to say the name?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
No, No, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I don't know that, don't stand. I ain't convinced.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I will like to write for people in the future.
But no, I don't write for other.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So let me ask you a question. Do you have
a studio on your home?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I don't, you don't, so, but I have all the
equipment so wherever I go, I can travel with it
and then have my engineers just come set up wherever
I'm at.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
So what's some of the craziest places a song that's
come to you? And you're like, man, I need to
start putt pinging.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
On this tour. Really, Yes, I have been recording this
whole tour.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
How do you I mean, I would, I mean, you
know better than me. I'll be thinking about Man, Okay,
I'm in Houston to night, I'm in Dallas tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I'm now it's been pretty hectic, Like, yeah, so how
do you have to set up every night everywhere I'm at.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And your mind can relax enough to allow you to
go to another space where you're thinking creatively on something else.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Already I'm thinking about words all day long, Like I'll
be writing in the shower, I'll be writing in the
bed in the middle of the night. I write I
was writing on a tour bus. I'll be writing anywhere,
like wherever it comes to me. And then if I've already,
like especially if this is what I've been doing a
lot on the tour. If I already wrote the song,
but something else cool comes to my mind, I be like, Okay,
so where she need to go? Set up up in
the other room so I can come in there late
it's down.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Wow. Is it hard for you to sleep? Is it
hard for you to turn your mind off?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I have not been sleeping this whole a couple of
months that we've been on tour. I don't even know
how up here right now really, and I'll be like, Damn,
I'm tired, And then when it's time to do something else,
I'll be like, Damn, I'm up.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Something comes to your mind. It's hard to turn your
mind off.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's hard to turn my brain now because I got
stuff to do.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Let me ask you a question. Who as some of
the obviously you work with some of the biggest stars.
Who are some people that you haven't worked with that
you would love to work with.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I haven't worked with Billie Eilish, and I really want
to work with her. I like her and I like
her brother. Yeah, I like the dynamic they have. I
feel like it's real cool. I like phoineas beats. I
like Phoineas as a person. So I really I definitely
would like to work with both of them.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Wow, I like I've been I've heard of perform out
at an event and she performed two songs, two or
three songs with a brother.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
They have. They have a very they so cool like together.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
So I'm like, damn, let me ask some of that.
Sauce a little bit.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
About this here. I'm looking at some of the people
that you performed with. Ariana Grande Maroon five, Little nase
ICs sells a future Quavo, Beyonce, Cardi b Who surprised
you the most in the studio?

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Who surprised me the most in the studio? I got
funny studio stories about a lot of these people.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You could share one or two, one or two?

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Hmm, Who do I want to talk about? Okay, I'm
I'm talking about Victoria First. Victoria came and made me
an expresso martini in the studio like a full bartender.
Like she had to shake her She had all the
ingredients And I'm like, Victoria, how you know how to
do this? I guess it's a specialty. I didn't know
she was gonna come in in the goddamn studio room.

(26:48):
She likes to record with the lights low, like. She
definitely set the move for me. It was very sexy
in there, and my girl whipped out all her equipment
to star bartender.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
She'll mix soligist.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Huh, I said, you know how to do that? I
thought you should just be singing.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
No when you record, what's the what's the mood? Like?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
When I record, it's just me and my engineer. I
don't like a lot of noise in the studio. I
don't like a lot of people. Obviously. The only noise
I want to hear is me and the beat. My
studio sessions do not be turned up. I don't even
know how people is in there with eighty two people
jumping up and down doing all that stuff. Everybody be quiet.
I needn't think. It's like it's I got a basketball
goal in the studio. I record it. It's like a

(27:27):
goal in the back. And sometimes I just go back
there and I'll be like, just messing around. This is
so random, but I'll be thinking angel reason when I'll
be back I do, but I'll be back there and
I just play around until I figure out exactly what
I want to say. And then I started recording.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
You know who, I think your spirited, Cardi B. You
and Cardi y'all y'all spirits. I mean y'all like really
hot energy. Yeah, and you know you you I mean,
I mean, I just love you guys together.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
What's what's Cardi like?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
She is so sweet, She's very what's the word I
want to say, She's kind of shack to be Cardi
B Like you would think Cardi is like loud and
she just don't give a fuck and she just boom. No,
my girl is actually a little shy, and every time
we see each other, she be acting like it's the
first time she seen me ever in life. And I'd
be like, girl, I just saw you, like turn up.

(28:22):
So then we've been like after we get around each
other for like twenty more minutes, then she'll be at
normal again.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Man, I'm looking at the song walk how did you how?
What mean?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just I guess he was dribbling that basketball. Well
that that happened during I feel like during COVID. So
I recorded that in my living room at that time.
When I got the beat, I was like, okay, oh
this is how we coming. Here we go And I
recorded two verses and I was like, CARTI, please don't
take off my other verse, Like just please, let's go
back and forth. And she listened to the whole thing

(28:55):
because I don't eve think she had heard the second
verse at first, right, And she was like, oh shit, okay,
well we're doing this.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Did you know you had a monster on your hand?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I did not just know how the song will CARDI be?
And I was so excited, like I was so happy
because I had never met it before and when they said,
Megan Cardi, when you get on this song house like car,
do you want me to get on the song?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
What?

Speaker 1 (29:13):
So did we bet? And then I recorded my stuff
and it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And you know, like people, that's that's a saying. Now
you know that right?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Why wings in pizza okay? Okay, pizza worship in grass.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
That?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Now?

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I was like, I mean, why was number one on
the Billboard one hundred, reached over billion streams on Spotify,
while was the top trending Google search and a calendar year.
Do you know how many times people search Google and
a day? Do you know how many people are in
the world and.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
They trying to figure out what?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Trying to figure out you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I know what I didn't know, but I know what
it is. Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I'm so happy that was like, that is one of
my favorite songs that I've ever done.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I love her.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm so glad she asked.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Me to do that, one of my favorite only listen.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
To Yeah, I don't know why the men be trying
to act like they don't be listening to female rap.
Definitely do and be jamming too when I go. When
I be performing at some of these stops, it'll be
a lot of men in the crowd and they trying
to stand there and act too. And I looked them
dead in their eye and be like, you know, you
want to bother your head? Prob blesh you. I'm like, yeah,

(30:25):
I'm a high girl. I do high ship.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Say it, man, but the big homie Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yes, I mean if Beyonce Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, queen Bee, queen beat Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Really, people don't even say They just say beat and
we know who you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, because what other b is it?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
That's it?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Boss business, billion billion billionaire beat.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Obviously if you're from Houston, if you're you in the
music industry, you're female. That's She's the gold standard. She
used the measuring stick. So what was your first conversation
like with Beyonce? Where did you meet her?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Let me think, when is the first time I met Beyonce.
I feel like the first time I ever met Beyonce
was at a party that she had and I was
so nervous and I met her and Blue and I
didn't even know what to say. But Blue ran up
on me like she already knew me. And I was

(31:28):
like cousin, cause like I couldn't believe it, and b
was so cool, Like Bee was looking at me like,
why are you acting like I'm not a normal human being?
And I wanted to look at her like, you don't
know that you're a superwoman, right, you don't know that
you don't know who you are? But I had to
chill because I didn't want Beyonce to think I was
just gonna be acting crazy the whole night. But I
was in my mind like I can't believe Beyonce got

(31:49):
me up here.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Beyonce, you fanned out, did you? I was trying to
be cool.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I did, I did, But I had to be cool though,
because I didn't wanna Beyonce did not invite me back
to the.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
But I mean you meet, I mean, you see this
person on television and and you meet them in person, and.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You think, every time I see Beyonce, I'm fandoutic. Would
ever be a time I see her and don't act
like and I know she'd be tired of me?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Did you think, like if I ever met Beyonce, what
what is what I'm gonna say? And then you got
there and you froze.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't even know what I ever thought, Like, I
just knew I was gonna beyond saying she was gonna
be my sister. That was just what I That's just
what I thought in my brain. Why not why I'm
not gonna be beyon saying she's not gonna be my sister.
That's my sister. And I manifested it. And now what
I guess what? She is my.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Sister, savage.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
So when you come out, so let me ask you this, savage,
how do I mean she dropped it?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Did you? So? How did that come about? You? Was like,
you know, I.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Want I can't tell I'll Beyonce business, okay, But like
when I got the throng, I was on my goddamn
knees on the side of my bed, thing God, because
I never thought like, in your mind, you know what
you want to do with your life, and you know
who you want to be, and you know what your
goals are, and you know how, you know how you

(33:09):
want to plan your life out to be. Of course,
I'm from Houston and I want a song with Beyonce,
but to actually have it, to actually have gotten it,
I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like me, Beyonce, No,
why am that's actually very insane. When I heard her
vocals on the song, I had to call the producer.
I had to call j White, I had to call
my grandma. Ferris is already with me. Fiers is my brother,

(33:32):
my manager. Here everything. I'm like, y'all, bitch home. Did
y'all know I got a song with Beyonce. We was
all in the house cutting up. I'm still fucked up
about it. Like every time I perform it, I'd be like, wow,
me all the song will Beyonce. This is crazy, this
is crazy. I love her. She is like the woman,

(33:52):
like Beyonce is the person. Like Beyonce could be the
president without running if she chose to. Like if Beyonce
announced I want to run this ship, I think we'll
all just getting get in line and be like, okay,
right beyond name on the ballot, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Right in Canada.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, you invited to that pajama party.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's what I'm talking about. That's where I may be at.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
So you and you in the pajamas, You're like, you know, like, okay,
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
I had to go get my best pajamas. I said,
somebody go to Louis Baton and give me call.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You ain't want a pajama. You gotta go. Y'all mean to.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Be at my best? No, we're going to Beyonce House.
I had to, like I had some sense I wanted
to show up in my best.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So obviously Whole, you know normally, you know, specially occasionally
like this. So what would it like to meet Whole?
Because I met him a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I met him at the Rock Nation office when I
first got signed the rock and I was in the
room and We're just looking at stuff on the projector
or whatever, like talking about what I was about to do,
and Jaz just walked in like it wasn't nothing, And
I'm like, y'all got me so fucked up? Like Jason up,
what's going on about? I'm like, Okay, here we go.

(35:05):
I'm really gonna do some shit now we got JZ
up here? Man, did you make it? The Stadion's they'll
play with me?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
So how was your conversation when you talked to Jay?
Obviously you're at rock Nation, So what was the conversation?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like it just felt like I was in the right spot, Like,
like I said, I was manifesting a lot of stuff
in myself. Never did I ever think that I was
actually going to be managed by the people that I
looked up to. It just felt like a big family.
They're just so intelligent, like they've been through everything. They

(35:36):
still going through it right now, but they just know
how to carry it. And I'm learning from the best.
I feel like I'm in the right spottom, in the
right position. I ain't never felt so safe in a
situation where I feel like these people got my back.
And I just see how much they grind and how
much they hustle and how much they led all the

(35:56):
talk and whatever else. People I say, just roll off
their back, y'all Jay or Daz, this is the woman
who really run shit at Rognation. And I'll be like,
they're saying this about me. They got me be fucked
up there, And They'll be somewhere on the island, like
why do you even care about that? There? You trip
it Like, I'll be like, why the fuck is y'all
so cool all the time?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
When you decided to go independent? Did you talk to Jay?

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Because he's someone that that the business augment is there
be she knows what to do. So who did you
do when you decide and says you know what, I'm
gonna do this on my own. Did you just did
you talk to them or did you talk to me?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
When I was in the situation that I was in
and I wanted to get out of it, they told me,
you need to do this on your own. Like you
you already know what it is. You got all the tools,
all the legal shit that you're going through right now.
I know you're learning something, so you should be able
to figure out how to get out here and be
your own boss. Beyonce is the person who actually inspired
me to get my own tequila because I used to

(36:53):
I used to be the Kanyak Queen. I'm still the
Kanyak Queen. Yeah, but as much as I used to,
you know, enjoy Koonyak and I promoted a lot of
people like liquor brands. She was like, the next time
I see, you need to have your own you need
to have your own alcoholic alcoholic beverage. And I was like,
you know what, You're right, queen, I am gonna have
my own shit. So now I have my own tequila.
It's called Sheka Steve R. T Us and it's gonna

(37:14):
be so cute. I've been serving it throughout my tour
and everybody's been loving it. So I feel like they
definitely put me in a position to learn how to
be my own boss.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Would the independent deal hard to negotiate with the wrong people?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, like you, why would somebody want you to have
all ownership over something that they could have ownership over
and make all the money? Like, why would somebody let
the artists being full complete control when that when that's
usually not done. But like I said, when we were

(37:51):
in talks with Warner, Like, they didn't seem like they
were being greedy. They didn't seem like they didn't want
me to have creative control, They didn't want me to
have my freedom. They just want wanted to help me
be the person, be the artist that I want to
grow into being.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
You feel like it's a partnership instead of you just
being talent, You're a partner.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
They not treating me like I'm just a product.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
It felt like, Okay, we are partners in this and
what would you like to do? Megan, That's what I
liked about that.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
You do understand though, being a businessman myself, is that
when you start spending money, is your money that I've.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Been spending my own money for a long time. These
music videos ain't cheap. That's what I definitely learned when
I jumped off the porch and wanted to be independent.
I said, how much did shit comes?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I don't think we need all them dancers.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
No, I go in for myself. I believe in myself,
and I believe that I'm making a really good investment
in something that I believe in. If I ain't gonna
back myself up, who else gonna do it? If I
don't believe it, y'all motherfuckers ain't gonna believe it. So
the last three music videos, y'all see me put out
that's straight out of make it to stay out of
your bank account, And that shit was not cheap. But
that's okay because I like good art. When I look

(39:01):
at the music video, I want to watch that ship
over and over again. So I want to put out
something that I know that my hobbies are going to
want to watch them over and over.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yet, and the thing is that when you win, and
guess who wins.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, me and my people that support me, you're.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Rat And that's how that's how it should be.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Okay, Now that you own your catalog and we see
a lot of other celebs that you know, entertainers have
sold their catalog if that was something that you would
be looking to do down the road or you, like
I thought too hard to get these.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I'm gonna hold on to it.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I don't know about all that not right now. I don't.
I don't know why. It may be a good business
move to them, I don't know, but I just got
my ship. So let's celebrate what we got going on
right now.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Hold on all right, now that you make it. I
mean you've probably been making big, but now you're your
You're you independent.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Hold on this A million dollars for a I mean
out for what that cob chain?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh yeah, I thought you me and my I don't
got my ring on right now.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
But how would you pay for that my ring?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, I definitely pay like a million for my ring.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
A million.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well, if I'm not gonna do I gotta set the
tone for the man that I want in the future.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Like why he got to spend ten million for it
in the game of ring.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, I might have to go give me a prince
or a king or some shit or something.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, you got to You don't spend a million on yourself,
so he can't even.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Because you gotta know what I want. I ain't gonna
never let nobody short change me.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Mag mag You do realize a million dollar for a diamond.
It is a lot, yes, but you but he gonna
you gonna look at him like I bought him.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I spend a.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Million on my fuck a man. I do things that
make me happy. I was talking shit like I do.
I do the things that I want for myself because
I like to treat myself right, because I want to
see me smile. So I'm gonna make the purchase that's
gonna make me smile.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, well how about this. What's the best gift someone
that's giving.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Bad the truth with me, the damn truth. That's all
I'm asking for her. You don't gotta give me nothing, crazy,
Just tell me the truth, be yourself, be real.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You can handle the truth.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I can handle the truth as many motherfuckers who've been
lying to me. You be relieving when somebody just be like,
all right, this is what it is. This is what
I'll be like, thank you God like.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
And you ain't waste my time, you ain't get me.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
You ain't bullshitting will I'll be surprised when somebody being real.
When somebody be a fake, I expected, but when they
be being real, I'd be like what right?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
So obviously you being meg family and friends? So where
do mag where do you drawing the line? Because you know,
when you got money, you know, they like they think
you have a never in.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yes, the tree in the back got millions just falling
from it.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
How do you how do you tell family?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
And I'm not talking about thirteenth cousins, I'm talking about
close family and friends.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
How do you tell them?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
No, I don't. My my cousin is actually in there
right now, and that's like my best friend. And I
don't really have a very large family. If I could
help anybody that's super close to me in any kind
of way, I really love to do it because just

(42:08):
they friendship and they loyalty and they love to me
make me feel good. And it's something that simple as
helping you pay your bills, that's that's not a big
deal to me.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
So let me ask you this. Do you loan money
or do you give money?

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm giving the money. I don't expect you.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
To because yeah, yeah, that ain't gonna get it back.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I don't want two hundred dollars back. Don't gotta give
me that back, that's all right?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
So is that obviously you say you bought it, bought
yourself a ring you bought yourself for? What was the
first thing that Meg bought when she got some money?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
The first thing that I deal with my money when
I started getting money, I paid off all my student loans,
and then I bought a house.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
They had to wait that thing, They had to wait
that one out.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Knocked this off me. I don't want no debt. I
don't like I don't like owing nobody no money. Right,
so stalely, may it show shit and leave me alone?
Don't me no more? So I paid off all my student.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Loans, say to make grandkids who didn't collected that.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
I feel like they got some new ship going on
that they don't.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Body would have paid that off up.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Se But I just ain't want it on my chest.
I didn't want to feel it no more. I ain't
want it on me.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
So want to make you this. What what's the one
thing that you you splurged on when you first got you?
Like jewels, that's just.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like jewelry, rings, chains, Yeah, rings, bracelets, chains, watching.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
What about whillas? No, you gotta drive a licen Can
you drive?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I could drive? That's so crazy. Yes, I could try.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
But you don't really drive yourself. I mean you too
cool now, you know you? Like you said, I would
love to drive myself.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Really, Yes, I have a I think for my birthday
next year, I'm gonna drive. I'm gonna drive. I'm gonna
buy myself a car.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You don't even want a car. You ain't got a car. Now.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I have a car, but I'm gonna get the car
that I really really want I've been holding off. I
really want to Bentley, and I want to customize it
the way I want and it's gonna be real cute.
But cars is just not at the top of my list.
Like I like cars because.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
When you see me, I find it in the car.
You don't see the car. When I got them jewels on,
you see them things.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
You see my jewelry. You see me when I'm shining,
see me dropping his damn car.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Is there anything that you regret purchasing?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, Like I told you, I'm a control frey. I'm
not gonna do nothing. I can't turn around from I'm
not gonna do nothing. I don't really want. That's why
I won't buy a bunch of cars, because as soon
as I come outside and I look at some shit
I don't want, I'm gonna be upset. But why did
I do this? Why would I have done this?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
How do you let me ask you a question? How
do you come up with how did you come up with?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
What? The hot girls? Hotties? How do you come up
with that?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
That shit just came to my brain one day, Like
I don't know, I just always felt like I was
just a hot girl. Yeah, and but me and my fans,
we were definitely talking about it one day, like which
I want to be called? Like what are we doing?
And like I put up a list of things and
they picked hotties. So that's what they are, the hotties.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
What about the hot girl summer?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
That shit just came to my brain. I was just
talking shit on Twitter one day and I was like, bitch,
we have an hot girl summer, and that's just what
it was.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And then you know hot boy and then you know,
uh uh douvall came with the city boys.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Well he ain't make that up because the city girls
already city girls.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
But but it's you know, I mean he was like,
he was rapping about this and now he got activities.
So so, so what's gonna be what's gonna be?

Speaker 2 (45:29):
What you got for the Aunties? Oh?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
The Aunties?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah? What you got for them?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
The hot Aunties, the hot Teas summer, the hot teas,
they was already they already that.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, the hot teas you trademarked hot Girl Summer.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, then that's mine. Anytime you see somebody talking about
we have an ho girl somewher and all that.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Other ship you belong to, that's what made you what
you're like, Hey, you know what?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It was just so many businesses were using it, and
of course you know, when me and Rock get together,
we'll be having to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Making?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So yeah, it just felt like the smart thing to do.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
So what are some of the things that you learned
about business that you didn't know besides owning or I
own a business, but there's so much more to a
business and just owning a business.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah. I feel like we talked about it a little
bit earlier about spending your own money. You can't make
money without spending money. True, when you ever heard somebody
say it costs to be the boss. Now, I really
do understand that. Like I like to have nice things.
I like my things to look a certain type of way.
I wanted to be extravagant. I wanted to look like
a production every time you see it. Now, how is

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that going to happen?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Who?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Money is it? And you can either go get somebody
to investing you, but now you're making them be a
boss over you too. Now do you want to have
complete ownership? You invest everything in yourself, you do it everything,
You do everything on your own. So I'm gonna say
the money part is the part that I've definitely learned
about having a complete ownership and being your own boss.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Because you do realize, like when you go get some
of these big name guys or females to women to
be on your do a feature that cost I mean
tooth fifty. I heard what you pay future tooth fifty
to do a hook a feature?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Excuse me? So you're like, well, damn too fifty.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
But that's okay because when you when you're paying somebody
they fee, that mean that you respect them and appreciate
them as a artist. Like I'm not about to ask
nobody to do nothing for me for free. I asked
what is the future price? Because I want you to
know how to see you're saying about this, I ain't
trying to beg and I ain't trying to scramble on.
It ain't got to be a favor for a favor.
I'm asking you to do your art on my.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Arm future for me. I do a feature for you?
What about that?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That's cool, that happens too, but that's not what happened.
Like I wanted that feature and I was just like,
somebody helped me figure out what's his feature price? The
manager told me what it was. Boom, go send him
money cash so he could do this for me.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
A sap. Yeah you bosted like that.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, but sometimes you gotta put your foot down, like
everything not about are we cool? Like that's that's yeah,
that's what people fuck up at. Just because somebody your
homeboy or your homegirl, that don't mean that they got
to give you everything for free. Support your people like
you are artist and you gotta get your money. Why
not I pay your artists friends to do whatever for you.
I ain't trying to beg got motherfuckers for nothing.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Your first tour. You were on tour with Future and Meat, Right,
what was that experience like? So that was your very
first tour, So what was your expectations when you went
on tour.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I didn't have any expectations, Like me coming fresh out
of Houston doing just like a whole Texas circuit all
the time, to going every guy down where I used
to be so nervous somebod like do any of these
people know who I am? Are they gonna come see me?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Do they care that I'm here? And I would come
out there and it'll be a little bit empty at first,
and then it'd get like super packed by the time
I was done, and the motherfuckers knew who I was
by the time I was gone, Right, So I felt
like I was working, I was grinding, and I loved it.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
I read that you let used to freestyle, used to
battle rap against guys.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
You made that up. I did, and not ren That's
what I got right here. Who you cann hurt that
from by people.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
My research that didn't help you didn't You didn't freestyle,
You didn't battle rap.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I used to be freestyling with the boys and stuff.
I wasn't battle rapper. Yeah, you were, I ain't no
battle rapper. I'll just be talking shit. Oh I ain't
no battle rapper or nothing.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Why you talking? Why are you talking that like that?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Because that's what I do. But I feel like battle
rapping that's like a whole culture, like that's all.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
But but I'm just saying, but you freestyling, you going
against the guys, that is that what you sharpen your skills?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Is that what you no?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Like I told you earlier, Me and my mama used
to be going back and forth. Really yeah, she she
was really the one, and I just wanted to beat
her and I wanted to impress her, and like I thought,
she was just the coldest rapper ever. So if I
was gonna compete with anybody, it was gonna be my mama.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Right. Your mom really inspired you? Huh Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I mean it seems to me that you guys had
something more more. It's like, I hate I don't want
you can correct me if I'm wrong. It's like you
guys were like, yes, that was your mom, you're the daughter,
but y'all had more like a relationship, like y'all were
like sister, Like.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Well, you know, black Mama's gonna always tell you, ain't
your friends, your sister and all that shit. So I
ain't gonna say she was my sister, but my mama.
My mama was my best friend, and it used to
really just be me her and my dad before he passed,
and I didn't really care about nobody else. I didn't
care about having a bunch of friends and stuff because
and I was a very friendly kid. But I was

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the only child, so like I just I just was
wating around my mom.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I was.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
That's why I still showered myself in these type of gifts,
because that's what I'm used to. My mama, my daddy
and my grandma, Like they just gave me whatever I wanted.
They made me feel and it makes me appreciate it
today because I'm just now realizing we were not rich
and they just really broke they back to give me
everything that I asked for, and more so now I'm like, damn,

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I didn't even realize my mama was struggling like that
and still giving me everything I asked for.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Do you ever wish you had siblings?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
No? I like being the only child. Yes, I couldn't
even imagine if to me, No, I they have to
be two of you.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
They could have to own that.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Did meg no? Because I would have made them be.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Like what if they were if they were the oldest?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Mmmm See, I wouldn't have liked that because I probably
wouldn't have been me if I was trying to be
like my big sister.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
You had a brother, I wool that all right?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Well, if I would have had a brother, he would
have been cool too, and he probably would have been
trying to make me not be me though I don't know,
but if I had a brother, that'd be real cool.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
See, I couldn't even imagine it being a boy me
what we'll be trouble?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
What about the accent that I mean, I can tell
you from the South.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I have accent. Okay, I know I got an accent,
but like I really ain't never really hear it myself
until I started leaving Texas, Like when I started going
to New York so much. They'd be like, what you're
saying or how I say it again? And I'd be like,
what why you don't hear me? Like I'm speaking very clearly,
but I guess some of the shit I'll be saying

(51:59):
it sound country.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I don't know now, I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Now, I mean you've been did anybody like when you
got started rapping, did anybody try to change you? Say?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, you know, I mean that that drawl a little thick.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Nobody outside of Houston tried to change me.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Like.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I remember one time I was recording at this boy
studio and he stopped me in the middle of recording
and it was like, why do you talk like that?
And I was like, what do you mean? He was like,
you just sound like you mad like you just a
mad ass girl on the mic. And I was like, damn,
that's fucked up. And I just finished my song and
I left and he was telling me who I should sound.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
More like and all this other yeo oh you didn't
like that.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
No, I didn't like that, But I wasn't about to
let him punk me out my session either, because you
for that, Yeah, let me finish. And then I got
ab out of there and I never went back. But
I was like, no, fuck that, Like, can nobody tell
me what to sound like?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
And who the beat?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Bitch? Ill made his dad?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
But obviously as a female rapper, we know the one
Little Kim, Foxy Brown, Charlie Baltimore, all those ones, that
came before you MC like Queen lat shout out a
little tief. I just saw her the other day. So
when you were when you were growing up, what female
rapper like? Was like, I like her, That's what I
would like to I'm not to say you wanted to

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be like that, but who do you listen to growing up?

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I'm gonna say this warm more time. I used to
want to be just like my mama, really because my
mama was a rapper. But my mama what was the
name Hollywood? But my mama's favorite female rapper was Little
Kim Okay, so she put me on Biggie before she
put me on Little Kim, and I used to love
Biggie so much. I still love Biggie. But she was like,
if you like Biggie, I got something for you that's
go fuck you up. So then she started playing me
Kim and I was like, what is this? So I

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definitely was on Kim early, but definitely my mama was
my favorite. Met of course I met Kim like and
you would think how much shit little Kim be talking
with that deep ass voice on the fucking beast.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
She's six foot tall.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
You would think she's finna be tall as a motherfucker
and just the voice is finna be deep like that.
I met Little Kim and she was like, hey, what's up.
I was like, Kim, Kim, Kimberly, where's the real little
Kim because this ain't Kim. She is so nice and
she's so sweet, and she gives just like baby girl energy,
Like she is just so cute and petite and nice.

(54:13):
And I was like, I cannot believe you are this sweet.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I love her.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
When you were growing up, Megan Houston, what did what
did so? Did you always want to be a rapper?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
So did you have any odd jobs? I mean, did
you work at fast food chains or did you work Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I worked at Bombshells. I worked at do you know,
I don't. It's like Hooters, but it's like Hooters, but
it's like army themed and we had skirts, Okay, that
are shorts. It was shorts under the skirt. But yeah,
I was like the probably the thickest one at the job.

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And I thought I was so rich because I was
getting all the tips and I was like, shit, I'm lit.
I ain't gonna do shit else. But I was doing that.
I was going to school and rapping, right, but I
thought I was so rich as a waitress.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
You go to Prayer View, you end up transferring to
going to Texas Southern. So were you rapping in college?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yes, when I first got there. Okay, so this is
what happened. So my grandma wanted me to go to
college to be a nurse. So that's how I want
up at TV because she told me you're finna go
be a nurse. And I said, okay, fine, I ain't
tell my grandma I want to wrap. So when I
got to TV, I was like, okay, I ain't got
to hide what I really want to do no more.
So I just immediately got to TV and started rapping
like whoever I can get around, And.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
They was doing whatever it was nursing program.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
No, I ain't say f the nursing program, but I
was definitely in the class in all the classes, like
you know, your little prerequisit classes like scratching my head
like I'm paying attention, but I'm like, oh, bitch, what
I gotta go? Like as only cause I wasn't like
passionate about it right because I went to school because
my grandma told me to go to school to do

(55:55):
this so I really wasn't doing bad, but I wasn't
doing good. You can only make two seeds in the
nursing program.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I made about three of them. Things, So I had
to go ahead and get up out of there because
I'd rather like do my best than fail and be
wasting money. So I changed my major to business management. Okay, okay, okay,
cause I was like, you know what, I'm a businesswoman.
I know I'm gonna be a business woman, like I
gotta figure out how to market myself. It just all
sounded good. So I started taking the business classes and

(56:22):
I said, oh god, this is okay. This is better
than the nursing for me, Like I'm making better grades.
But something about it was still not interesting. And I
was in class when I'll be writing music and just
zoned out, and I was like, no, like, I know,
school is not whooping my ass because I'm not smart.

(56:42):
I know I'm smart, but maybe it's just that I'm bored.
That wasn't my passion. So once I finally figured out
what I wanted to go to school for, that's when
I started really like piping up. That's when I got
to TSU. I got to focus more and I knew
I want to graduate. I'm passionate about starting my own
assistant living facility.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
How do I do this?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
And when I got to see su, then I started
making a's and b's and I said, here we go,
there you go. I knew it was up there.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
So how much credit do you give social media because
you're you're big and you're big on social media. I mean,
like you said, you got the hobbies and so the
young girls they follow Meg. Yeah, how much credit you
give social media for being able to put you not
you got talent? Yeah, So I don't want to I
don't want you to think that I'm saying you're not
talent and that you're just a social media creation.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
You know. Thank you so.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Social media aspect and Meg, because it's it's different now
because you can blow up overnight with social media.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, I definitely give social media a lot of credit
because that was my platform for people to see I
can rap like I feel like back then it was
a little hard for like rappers to like really be
grinding because you you got to be on the street
passing out your CDs, you got to be at all
the clubs doing all your ship like it was like footwork,
but the Internet, you could literally post yourself and it
will travel to the next country. So I definitely give

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social media a lot of credit for people discovering who
I am, because as soon as I started dropping them
freestyles and I was doing them ciphers and shit like,
it just went everywhere. People everywhere could figure out who
I was. But I know it's because I actually could rap.
Like you could be doing anything on the Internet and
blow up for it, but I'm glad that I blew
up from actually knowing how to skills.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna get you out of here on this.
You posted something a couple of weeks ago, and maybe
you were you were you were feeling some type of way,
and you was like, you couldn't understand why a person
like yourself that's so positive and people come on your
page to try to beat it down. How does like
you're such a positive person. You don't really You try

(58:45):
to stay out of everybody's way, but it seems like
the negativity and Meg, I'm the same way somebody can.
I can hear a million great things, but it's something
about that negative one that just hurts me, that just
bothers me. And we know you've dealt with depression and
you've had some thoughts that took you to a dark place.

(59:06):
What do you think it was when you're so positive,
you got so much going on that you think people
want to come on your platform and try to drag
you down.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I feel like we're human, so naturally, when you see
somebody say something bad about you that's untrue, or try
to put out information about you that's untrue, you want
to defend yourself. Yeah, Like, it's only so many times
you could just keep trying to be the bigger person.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Ignor shit.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yes, Like I'm still me, Like I'm still a real human.
I'm still a person. I have feelings. So like when
you try to be so positive and you try to
like let shit roll off your back or you try
to just stay a bus, it's so confusing to see
people try to break into that space, Like why do

(59:54):
you not want me to be happy? Why do you
want to see me frown? You don't know me, so
what is the reason that you want to see me
f so bad? Like? What is the reason for you
to want to take my smile away?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Why is it your mission every time you log into
the internet on Beyonce Internet. When you log in your account,
the first thing you try to figure out how to
do is piss Megan is staying off? Why why what's
going on at home? Like to somebody you absolutely don't know.
And I don't even be bothering nobody. I don't even

(01:00:24):
be running my accounts no more so when I do,
when something do cross my desk, I'll be like, well
what because I ain't even saying nothing, like what what?
What's the gag?

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
What are you getting out of this?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Because what happens Meg is like sometimes people will starting
to tell a lie and they'll tell it so much
they they don't start to believe it. But guess what
happens other people will start telling that same life for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I don't like it either, Meg, And people like we
just turned over.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
I like, it's either for you to say because they're
not talking about you, right, it's even for a person
that's not in that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
And when you see because I feel like you see
a lot of people say, oh, I feel like these
celebrities they only need to clap back or if I
was them, I wouldn't do that. Y'all be coming on
shit for less.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You're getting into it with people in your regular every day.
You're beating the shit out of people for talking bad
about you. They barely say anything, and you're ready to
whoop something. So you can't expect thousands of comments to
be pouring in about somebody and they don't want to
defend themselves. That is very hard, but I'm trying to
master it. I'm trying to be like my girl be
she don't be saying, she don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Say nothing, and I'll be like, well, I'm trying to
get that. When you come back to Club shay Shade
ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
From now, Okay, come on, ten years, ten years, what's
gonna be some of Meg's most cherished accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Okay, we're gonna pray that I have an oscar. Okay,
we're gonna pray that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I have a husband. I'm praying you want me to
have a husband. Yeah, don't you want a husband? Don't
you want a family? I just want a nice person
and what so you just want a relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I don't just want a relationship. I want to be
with somebody who loves That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he
cares about me. I want to really genuinely be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You want a family.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I do want a family.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
How many?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I want? Like five kids?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You are only child and you want five kids?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah, because I know what it's like to be the
only child. And you want friends.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
My kids that I want to be cool with each other, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I don't want them to have to be worried about
everybody else being a fake ass friend. This show, blood brother,
your blood sister, this show damn friend us. We our
little group. That's what I want for me and my people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I mean five with your career, I mean you have
to take a you have to take a break. You
ready to take a break. You're just getting started.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
No, I ain't gotta take a break. CARDI was performing pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
You're gonna be on stage seven eight months.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Maybe with the Magan needs to baby and there rocking.
No man's gonna dance out of me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Oh if you could talk to your eighteen year old self,
what piece of advice would you have?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Kee? Oh lord, I'll put my girl to keep doing
what she's doing. Because that eighteen year old Megan was
something else. They think this make it crazy? Eighteen year
old Megan or you was on one her I was
on ten. Yeah, I'll be like, Wow, people think I'm
so wild and I'm so crazy. I'm calm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Actually, would you do reality TV?

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
If I could have a show about myself?

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yes? What would it be about?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I got enough shit going on in my life that
people could make an episode out of it every day?
So I actually would consider having a show about my money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
But won't you won't you have a crew to follow
you around?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
So we just finished my documentary and that was very
hard for me because I'm not used to literally a
camera following me around all the goddamn time, and they'll
be like, just do you just be natural? And I'd
be like, bitch, what what do that mean? Be natural
in the camera by me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
And how?

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
But I'm more open to it now and I want
and I definitely would like take it to consideration having
a show, because at least people will see my real
reaction and what I really feel and what's really happening
from my perspective versus people making up shit that's completely untrue.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Did you play sports growing up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I played every sport for a day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Well because so I'm tall, right, so naturally everybody wanted
me to do something. They'd be like, making you're so
you should play basketball. I'll be like, all right, let's
try it. Get out there. Goddamn, do you know what
suicides are? This lady said, all right, y'all, y'all for
the real suicide. I said, what that means? Why so intense?
That name is crazy? So I'm go see what you're

(01:05:02):
killing yourself. You're running back and forth as many times.
So that was the first red flag. The second red
flag was everybody chasing after me for this goddamn bar
don't hit me, don't touch me. So I was like,
you know what, I like to watch this, but me
doing it now. I don't want to do all that

(01:05:22):
running at the time at the time because.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
But you're exercise fanatic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Now, okay, that's now. But I'm saying at the time,
I wouldn't understand it while we're doing all this damn
running a why y'all being so aggressive? So then I
wanted to play tennis. I thought I wanted to play tennis.
I got out there as a black girl. My hair
I used to want to straighten my hair every day
for school. And when I started going to tennis practice,

(01:05:49):
all I got damn running out sweat in my hot rod.
I said, girl, y'are doing this on purpose. So I said, okay,
I like to watch this, and I appreciate how hard
y'all going.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
This is real.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
This is some cool shit y'all doing. Like, but this
it ain't for me because I wasn't passionate about it.
Volleyball or I just knew that was gonna be the one.
It was like, making you so tall, you should come
play volleyball. I said, okay, cool, let's try it. I
was down for the outfit. I was so excited. I
think somebody might have hit me in the head with
a volleyball. Oh they got me good. And at the time,

(01:06:28):
I just didn't understand that you're gonna have to get
hit some times playing sport. But now as much as
I've been getting hit in these sports that I've been
trying to play, now I'm figuring out you have to
get hit. No, So I just stayed a dancer. I
was a dancer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
The album what can We Expect?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
You can expect a lot of shit talking. You can expect,
you know, me being vulnerable. You can expect just a
lot of hot girl shit. It's just me. Finally, it's
just making It's not teena snow, It's not the high
girl coach is again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
There you have it, the hottest girl herself, MEGANE. Stallion,
Thank you very much, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
All my life, grinding all my life, Sacrifice, Hustle, patic Price,
Wanta Slice, Got the brother Geys Swap all my life.
I be grinding all my life. All my life, grinding
all my life, sacrifice, Hustle, pat Price, One Slice got
the Bronc Geist.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Squat all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I've been grinding all my life.

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