Mo'Nique Part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway more.
Obviously when you do when you do stand up, you
go to a lot of different cities, a lot of
different club Yes, it's a lot of different promoters. Has
everybody always been on the up and up with Monique?
Or did you try to Sometimes people try to take advantage.
You're female, you're black, you heady, You're.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Not gonna say that, like mister from Color Purple. You're black,
you ugly, You're not gonna do that shit.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
But you know, people try to take people would would
try to take advantage of anyone, but.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Seemingly like us, that she were willing to take more advantage.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I've had to tell the promoters, call the police because
either they're gonna come get you or me.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
They try to hold up on the money.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Call the police because and this was like seventy five dollars.
Can you imagine seventy five dollars? Like you know where
we come from. Yeah, if somebody gets you for twenty
five dollars, that's a problem. Yeah, imagine twenty five million. Yeah,
we've seen people lose their life for twenty five dollars.

(01:10):
Imagine somebody getting you for millions. How you supposed to feel.
Would you let it go? Nah? Hell no? Right, So
when people say more just let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, But if even for people to say let it
go when they haven't lost anything, come on, baby, it's
easy to say, come on, But when you've lost, how
do you it's kind of like it's kind of like,
you know, a someone should just get over it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You should.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
You can't tell somebody how to grieve, how long to grieve,
because you're not the one that's hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
They didn't do it to you. They didn't do it
to you. It was done. And I will say this
right now on your show. I still love y'all. We
still love y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
You love morey make it make it right?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
My husband, okay, say that again, because.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Y'all make it right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yes, indeed, okay, I'll fix them a pand cake. My
husband would always say, Mama, we ain't calling nobody out.
We're calling them up. And if we continue to call
us up on our doings that are not right, we
get better as a people, like we get better. Do
you know why things were able to happen like that
happened on the color purple?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Why? Oh, you're talking about the reback? You talking about what.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm talking about, the seventh one, the one that just
came out right right, and at the seventh edition.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It's like the musical with Fantasia and Taji.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right right, right, right, right right, that one with all
our beautiful systems. You know why they're able to treat
us like they treat us? How are you hand picked
in your audition?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
If you handt picked you on a edition.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I want you to say that again, Shannon, because people
don't understand how deep this goes. When I watched my
sister say it was an honor to be hand picked, right, then,
whyever would you audition?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
And the moment, in my opinion, the moment she auditioned,
they knew we got them. We can treat them any
kind of way we want to treat them, We can
do them any kind of way.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
But why would you want to? Because you can, that
doesn't mean you should.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
But they did. But they did. How do you handpick
me and then mistreat me? And then I got to
send a letter to you about the mistreatment that you
gave me. That's why they're able to get away with it.
That's why when I do interviews oftentimes or these conversations.
People are too afraid to even address it because they
don't want to be caught up like, oh, I don't

(03:45):
I don't know when you said way a mine naught.
That's the truth. I heard it, and I don't want
my character to be on the line as I'm being
a person sitting there asking people about their lives and
then not be able to stand in what I've heard.
That's why it made so much. It was important for us.
It was important for us to get you that audio.

(04:05):
I don't want you to take my word and anything
I've said on this couch right now that don't take
my word. Ask those people, Ask those people and see
what happens. And then maybe after this come out, they're
gonna label me again. She's bitter.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
She's not like, yeah, you go, first, thing gonna be better.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I just want to look at your camera. Okay. And
and here's the thing, because I got a king at home.
I'm not bitter. I'm not bitter.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
You just won't what's right.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You just determined not. Life is too good to be bitter.
But we're determined for you to take accountability, right.

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Speaker 3 (05:55):
When did Mo get up? First? Big breaking in comedy?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
You follow theater and the sister that stay out front,
that had the Jerry Carl. If she liked you, everybody
liked you. If she did not like you, nobody liked you.
And when I saw that woman standing to her feet,
baby good, I was good. There was so many moments were.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You nervous to go on a follow because you know
if everybody know.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
About to follow, you're nervous every time.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
You still get nervous to go over.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Free time, baby, and not the nervous when you're scared.
It's just that like oh I get to do it again,
Like when you go out to the field, it's like ooh,
it's that I still get that.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, Wow, that's I mean to hear you speaking to
see like how passionate you are a very very passionate
person about everything.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I love us. I loved us. Like when I say
I love my people, I love my people, Shannon, I
love us. I love everybody but my people. I love us.
So when I speak on things, it's not the drop
shade mess or tie. I'm too damn grown for that.

(07:14):
I'm fifty six and a grandmother who got time for that?
But I say it because will it make us better?
Will it make us come to the table and say,
you know what do we really leave for the babies
that's coming behind us? That means something to me when
I talk about them damn bonnets? Let me tell you.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Something, Yeah you sail?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Hey, come on, can we like when we come out
the house? Can we not have the bonnets on? Can
we not have the pajamas on? Can we not have
the house hoes?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Going in?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
The the whole damn Halloween costume. That's a Halloween costume
that you wear on Halloween. And I am passionate about
that because what is the representation that we're giving to
the little girls that's walking behind you? What is the
representation that we're giving to our black men that's walking
beside What is the reputation that we're given. And when
they would say to me, oh, Monique, you don't know

(08:04):
what they're going through. We always been going through something. Yes,
we was going through something when we got off the
damn boat. We've been going through something. But once you
lose the pride and the dignity of of what you
feel like you look like, then we've lost, So I
wasn't backing down on that. It's like, no, y'all, we
owe ourselves that, we owe ourselves that.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
How hard is it.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
For you to love some in the community when you
know they don't love you back.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
That's a good Machannon. Okay, that's a good one, because
sometime I be in the bathroom having conversations with the
ones that don't love me back, but I still love
them because I just know that misinformed. We've been conditioned
in such a way in our community to eat each
other up and spit each other out. We've been conditioned, Well,
I don't like her, and I love my people.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But why why do I?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
No, I'm saying a lot of times for me, mo
is that.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I don't take someone's word about to because you can
only judge a person through personal experience. Yes, you don't
know our audio guy, but to say, oh, well, I
don't like it, And then when you said, well I
don't like it either because Shanna didn't like it, You
have no personal experience with him, So why wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Why would you dislike it?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
People want us to dislike somebody because they've had a
negative experience with that set person.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
And we buy into it. We buy into it because
this one don't like her, and then you say, why
don't you like him? Let me This is one thing
my husband said to me one time. He said, Mama,
there's not a person on the face of this earth
that I dislike. I may dislike what they do, but
I don't dislike the person. And it took me minute

(10:00):
to understand it, because I'm like, I don't like they ass.
I don't like what they did. I don't like they ass.
I don't like they, Mama, I don't like none of them.
But he said, no, there are things you've done that
I dislike, but I don't dislike you. And once we
can get past that, then we even grow to be better.
So what you're seeing right now, Shannon is missus Sidney

(10:25):
Hicks that my husband has set me down and had
conversations with me and really taught me how to be
a lady. Because people in this business know, if you sideways, baby,
you beat that boy over the head with that tray
in the cafeteria, right, I will cuss your ass out
in ways that they wish I beat him with a
tray And he had to say, Mama, they won't hear you.

(10:49):
They don't hear you once you go there. So he's
had to teach me how to really be a queen,
really know my worst, really understand my value. And I'm
grateful for that. And I used to say to my husband,
I wish I could put you in a bottle and
shake you up and let black women take a sent

(11:12):
to know what it's like to truly be loved by
a black man that is a king. When I tell you, Shannon,
it's a love that is unexplainable and unimaginable. That's why
I can't be broken. And I say that humbly. I
can't be broken because I got a king at home.

(11:32):
I got a king right there, And when all this
shit went crazy, that man took me by my hands
and said, don't you know we could? And I believed him,
and right now to this day, I believe him. And
when you have that type of strength, it's hard to
bend over. You can't.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You said that when you were at your lowest, lifted
you to your highest.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
You better know your homework. Baby, I'm proud of you.
We got toast on that way. You better know your
damn homework. I said that when I was at my lowest.
He loved me like I was at my best, and
I was mentally ill. Because you're in this business, everybody

(12:23):
thinks you are the hero. Consideration can be thrown off
the window. Patience can be thrown out the window because
when you get home, you believe that I'm the bread winner.
And what I say is what goes, and this is
what it is. And this is my third marriage, throw
my first because this is the first time I've known

(12:44):
my place as a black man's wife. And there's a
place and we get so caught up in that word,
what you mean, your play, what you mean without him
saying it. His action showed me that he was the
leader of that household. Without him saying it, I knew

(13:06):
I was dealing with a king.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
And he didn't have to confidently remind you of it.
He never, he's never. When we first got together, I said,
at the hit of that table, comfortably. There was never
a conversation about it till one day I knew I.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Was in the wrong place. Wow, And I moved to
the side of the table and he said at the head.
We never had a conversation about it. It just happened
because it was supposed to. So when people question my
husband and why is he there, you would hope you
would have one like that. I remember our beautiful sister

(13:45):
Tiffany had it. Did an interview with GQ magazine, And
this is my humble opinion, is where we keep throwing
each other under the bus. You're doing an interview with
GQ magazine and I'm assuming the journalist was a white person,
and the conversation turned to Monique and she said, well,

(14:07):
I don't do business like Monique do business, and I'm
glad I don't have that husband of hers.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
But she doesn't know your husband.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And when I saw that, it's like Tiffany, if you
had a husband like mine, you may not have to DUIs.
If you had a husband like mine, you may not
be caught up in what looks like you could have
been grooming a child. And I say, all of that
was no judgment. But when you speak about having a

(14:35):
husband like mine, you open up the door. And I'm
saying to you, if you had one like mine, you
may not sit in these positions that you can't explain
the next day, or it's a hard way to go.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
So once agont a husband, let alone like yours.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well about dying it now you said it, I sipt
doing that, shad. That was a sip that required a sip.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You Moesha? How did how did that come about?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Mosha?

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah? You had an audition for Moesha?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Right, No sir, hold on, no, sir, you didn't. I did.
I say this not to be but I never auditioned.
What I've never auditioned they've called I think I thought

(15:35):
I was auditioning for a Burger King commercial, but what
it really was was the agency I was with at
the time just trying to blow smoke, you know, making
me think I'm doing something, but to audition. When I
first came to Hollywood, I told this guy name I
believe his name is Mark Unray, and I told AJ Johnson,
and I told a sister named kim Kimberly Brooks. I said,

(15:56):
I'm not auditioning, and they was like, okay, like you're
fat ass, You not audition and we'll see if that's
what they did. They laugh, But I meant that, I'm like,
what you see is what you get. I am not
going to especially now, especially now. Whyever would I audition

(16:17):
when I've got the highest award that you can get
in this business called acting, And why would I do that?
Because once I do that, I devalue me. If you
can't look at my work and say that's what we want,
then no, thank you. Like they'll call me, they'll send
emails and they'll say, what's Monique availability? None of your business.

(16:37):
I don't know you. So you're just gonna send an
email and want to know what's my availability. I'm offer only.
I am offer only. So again, we gotta be careful
what we say yes too, what Sidney Poitier say, it's
not how many times you say yes? How many times
you say no? And the moment our Baby audition, they

(16:59):
got set up for no trailers, they got set up
for no food, they got set up for no drivers
because now in their mind they think you're desperate. Right,
So when Oprah does the one on one with Taraji
and she begins to run down her credits, the great
Taraji p Henson, then whyever would you allow the audition
to happen? Whyever would you allow that? Why wouldn't you

(17:21):
go to that studio and say she doesn't have to
our hand picked them. So either our sister is not
as powerful as we believe. She is or either there's
not the concern that she tries to make it look
like it is.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But you turn a couple of appearance on Moesha into
the Parkers.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
This is how the Parkers happened. Normally, you shoot a pilot, correct, right, yes,
and the pilot they decide whether or not they're going
to do the show from the pilot, right, yes, okay.
Countess Vaughan and I when I go to a meeting
with a guy named Larry Little at Big Ticket Television,
and at the time my agent was a woman named
Susie Unger. They're trying to sell a talk show. Yes,

(18:01):
we have a meeting. He says, listen, I don't need
her to do a talk show, but if she can act,
she has her own show. My agent said, of course
she can act. Well, she didn't know if I could
act or not, but I said, damn it, of course
I can.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Add.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
They will count as Van into that meeting that was
at one o'clock. By that evening, they were negotiating the
deal for the Parkers. The way they introduced the character,
because they always talked about Kim's mother on Mosha. They
introduced Nikki Parker in an episode of Moesha, which was
the pilot spin off to the Parkers. That was never

(18:34):
an audition. There was never any event.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So now all of a sudden you got your own sick.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Com Shut up, Come on, now you go home.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
And you like from b more violand from what I
went through to this?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Are you looking around like damn it? I made I
knew this. I knew this thing was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, yes, yes. And you know how you know something
as a child, like did you know you were gonna
play for I knew it, Shannon. I knew it like
I knew as a child. And I say this humbly.

(19:20):
I knew the world would know my name like I
knew that. So once you in it, you'd be just
like I still can be in a supermarket and somebody say, Monique,
is that you? And I still can tear up because

(19:42):
I'm like, I'm here. I remember when I got my
first parking lot at the Parkers. I didn't know I
had a parking space, and they would send out emails
to say, if you're here for the Parkers, park outside
the gate. That's how naive I was when you asked me,
was I naive? So I would park outside at the gate.
I even though I'm one of the stars of a show, baby,

(20:05):
they said, if you're with the Parker, because there's no
one on one, there's no Hollywood one on one, there's
no introduction. They just say go and you're supposed to
get it. So I would walk across the parking lot
all the way over to the set, to the stage
till a brother named William Tripp was in a golf
cart one day. He said, mo, what you're doing? I said,
going to the set. He said, why are you walking

(20:27):
across the parking lot. I said, oh, because they said,
if you're with the Parkers, you gotta park outside the gate.
That brothers laughed, but it was a brotherly land. He said,
come in, baby, let me show you something. And I
got on that golf cart and he drove me to
my parking space that had my name on it. That
was a moment for me, like I'm pulling up to

(20:50):
a studio and that's my name. That's the little fat
black girl from Baltimore, Maryland who was in the slow
slow class. That's the little fat black girl from Baltimore, Maryland.
We have a lot of friends, a lot of people
didn't want to deal with me, but that's my name
on that parking space. Now do you see why I
fight like I fight because it's all possible. But what

(21:10):
happens is we then lose ourself in the possibility of
what we're getting, and now we're too afraid to lose it.
So all the principles, all the morals, all your values,
they don't go away. You just push them to the
side because you know what it's like not to have
gas money. So I'll just you know, I just go
ahead and do that a little bit. My soul won't

(21:30):
let me do that.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Why did you want to become famous? You asked me earlier,
Did I know that I was going to play in
the NFL? And I told you yes, because I wanted
to play in the NFL because it was gonna get
my grandmother and my family into a situation they probably
would have never enjoyed without it.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Come on, that was my driving force. That was all
I thought about.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
More given your family situation and what transpired, Why didn't
want to be famous so bad?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm a little fat black girl, baby, and asks another
fat black girl, We fight for that attention because you
wasn't the one picked on the playground to play kickball.
You wasn't the one pick for the spelling bee. You
wasn't the one picked for this. You wasn't the one
pick for that. So I was like one day, one day,

(22:23):
one day, one day. I'm sure you growing up you
had your challenges. You're a dark skinned man. There was
a time you studied. I wasn't always popping. You brought
it up. Let's talk about it. Talk about it. Your
good head, white curly, your skin was black. Yeah, man,
you brought it up. I wasn't always that is so

(22:46):
yaw to be that now, to be that? Yeah, Now
you gotta be careful because you remember the time when
she told, you know, I don't wanna go out on
the date with old black shann Let me talk to
her right now, let me talk to your ass. It
wouldn't go out with black Shannon. Now, you wish you
would have won out with black Shanning that studied, y okay,

(23:06):
you wish you would have won out with black stuttering
Shannon Sharp's ass. Now look at him, he got the
shape shape show I bet he ass of tough. I've
been there, I've been there, I've been there. So we
understand it. You know, you understand that drive. You understand
that thing in you that says, I won't let nobody
stop me. Now, my drive wasn't that I wanted to

(23:27):
get my family out of poverty, because I've always grown
up in a middle class environment. So it wasn't that
we were dirt poor. You know, we ain't have no
whole lot. But I didn't look at it as we
lived in Pott right right, for me, I just wanted
to I wanted the world to know me. And then

(23:48):
once I had a son, right, I was very young
when I had my first son, I didn't want him
to have to go to a college because that was
all that my parents could afford. I wanted him to
be able to do whatever he wanted to do. Then
there was a sacrifice in that, right because when you're
trying to go get it, you're missing this right here.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh you miss a lot, the nurture in yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
You miss all that. So you know, all of that
had to be dealt with. So now with this group,
with my second set of children, I'm a different mother
than I was then. So my whole thing is even
right now, we want to make sure that when we
leave here our babies are good, right, and that baby's

(24:32):
are good. And then Tyler Perry not told that lie,
we would be on our way to that. And I
know people saying, why she keep going back to that.
I'm gonna keep going back to that shit sharing and
shop till he takes accountability for.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
You said your first son.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yes, that you're trying to get it, but it robbed
you of a lot of things of a mother son relationship,
and so you made sure not to make the mistake
this time around. What's your relationship like? Is he resentful

(25:09):
of that?

Speaker 2 (25:09):
We're still very much separated, okay? And and and it's
a it's a it's a It's one of those things
where you have to pray to the universe and say,
let time do the healing, and that's it. That's it.
Let time do that healing. It may heal it in time,
and it may not. And that's something that we as

(25:30):
parents have to say, Listen, I've done what I've could do.
I've taken accountability for it. Now it's up to you, right.
That's like when somebody's saying, Shannon, I want to apologize
to you. Now it's up to you.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Whether or not to accept whether or not talk.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
But once I give it to you, I've done my
part and don't apologize like no pump, I'm just sorry
for everything that gets your ass out of it. No
break down. Let's go bit by bit so that way
we know you understand the offense that you've done. Now
I'm not sicking because I've had to do that. When

(26:09):
I tell you, I was so out of line and
out of order when I first got with my husband,
so out of order and out of line. And this
has been my best friend since tenth grade, since we
were fourteen years old. He came to the other other weddings.
It was like my brother. This man he was like
my brother. You know he wasn't That's why it's so

(26:34):
beautiful because we really we were like we we had
a place together. He would see my boyfriend, I see
his girlfriend. You know that he this was my brother.
This was literally my brother. And then if it wasn't
my boyfriend, it might be another little fellow. But you know,
he was like my brother. We were brother and sister.

(26:57):
So the way it happened, yes, it was so pure.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Tell, and that's what I want to know. Now.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You he came to you, say came to wedding. You
saw him have girlfriends. I don't know if he was
married or not.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Before you that you how how did I gotta know this?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Hall need to do a fay girl.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
We got time, We got time, We good on time.
I want you to say that again. And I don't
want Hallmark, but okay, okay, okay, because this story, this
story is spicy, and I don't know if Hallmark can
handle the spice of the story. So we've always been
like brother and sister, right. He was the one I

(27:38):
would call after a show when I was standing at a
motel and I'd be like, Yo, they got me in
this motel and nigga's outside and everything. I'm scared. He'd
be like, but one day, one day, you're gonna be
on the inside. This is the same guy that we
was going to the like our little farmer's market in Baltimore,
and I had a comedy club called Monique's in Baltimore,
and the girl had on a Monick's T shirt. And

(27:59):
He's says, one day they know you only in Baltimore,
but one day they gonna know you all around the world.
That's the same guy that when we step off of
a plane in London together, and the guy says, my
wife knows I fancy you. And we went back to
that moment coming out of that store in Baltimore. But
one day they'll know you all over the world. So

(28:22):
he's always been he always made life right for me.
But it was my brother, right. And I remember one
night when I thought Joel LeVert was my boyfriend. And
let me be clear, I thought he was my boyfriend.
I was never his girlfriend, right, but in my mind,

(28:43):
you know, we'll take it somewhere, right. So I'm in
my feelings because I like this little teddy bear, right,
But the teddy bear didn't like okay, oh right, not
the way I wanted it to be, right. So I
call up my best friend and I'm saying I'm mad.
He said, all right, he said, listen, it's all good.

(29:05):
When you come home, you know, let's just hang out. Right.
When I went home, I was doing the BT Awards, right,
and I had a big party at my house and
the next day I was supposed to go to Essence
for the film for the Essence Festival. So that night
at the house, my house the outside is packed. Ain't
nobody though a Hollywood party shanting shop like Monique through

(29:27):
a Hollywood. I had every race, every nationality, every everything
you thought could be at a party, and everybody was
just a great time. Right. So he's at the party
and he's very reserved, you know, very reserve cat. So
I grabbed his hand and said, come on, let's go dancing.
And we got out on the dance we and have

(29:47):
a great time. After that, I'm like, all right, I
gotta start packing to get ready to go to the
Essence Festival. So we go upstairs and I take my shower.
It was nothing for him to see me naked because
we were roommates, you know. So so he says, when
you come back from Essence, I want to talk with you.

(30:08):
So I said okay. So he went to kiss me
on my cheek, but the kiss was half lipped. It
was like here, yoh, okay, it was right there right now.
I tried to turn the home mouth, but it came
right there because I found something different. I fold them

(30:28):
and I was like and then after it happened, we
both almost had a feeling of like we did something wrong,
like this, like that's my So we didn't address it.
I came back from Essence festival.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I went to his place. Okay, he fixed in him, Okay,
he fixed in him and read this amazing poem that
he wrote that was almost nineteen years ago. Oh we've
never been a part since then. Wow, we've never been
apart since then. And I am more in love with

(31:07):
that man today than I was when we first got married,
because I didn't really know what I was getting. I
knew I was getting somebody I could trust because I
just needed somebody that I could just try, like my
brother stole from him my face, Like I'm just I
just needed somebody that I could just trust. And I
didn't want to keep on having randoms, right, because that

(31:29):
gets old after a while, you know what I'm saying.
He's trying to fill the void, and men go through
that as well as women. You just get tired of.
So I knew I could trust him, but I didn't
know he was the king that he was shanning. I
didn't know that. I didn't know that I would be
raised And there are women that have a problem with
me saying that, and I will not back down from it.

(31:51):
I did not know that that man would take me
from a fifteen year old mentality. Even though I'm a star,
I'm famous, I got a few dollars in my back account,
but still had that little girl mentality. You can't correct me,
you can't say nothing to me, you can't check me,
you can't do none of that. Still had that way.
That man was able to shut all of that down

(32:13):
and grow me up. So I got a great one.
I won't even say a good one.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I got a great You got a great one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You got a lover, a best friend, yes, a manager,
a husband yes, confide.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yes, yes, yes, a protector. Ye. You're saying it, and
it seems like people have a hard time getting it.
But that's exactly who Sidney Hick says. He's all of
those things.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
When the Queen's of comedy, when was that a because
I was some more adal givings, Miss Lloyd, tell me
about the Queen's of comedy. We hear about we hear
about the Kings of comedy all the time, and it
was great.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I was not an original queen of comedy. And
when I came on right, I was so honored to
be in the presence of three of the greatest female
comedians to ever do it. And when I tell you,
hands down, them sisters are incredible because they've paved ways

(33:19):
for people. And when we got together, Shannon, it was
non stop history making because we were selling out in
ways that were unheard of. Right. And I can remember
our first show because I was not initially the headliner
of the Queens of Comedy. Some more was and I

(33:40):
remember our first show and this is why I appreciate her,
because she knows a great show. Like you have some
comedians that feel like you can't follow me. I tore
the stage down and it's over, and you can't. You can't,
you can't. And I felt that way one time in
my life, and that was with Dale Hughgley. Right, but
you have you. She was the headliner of the show

(34:02):
and we were in Atlanta, and it was one of
those shows where the basket for me was this big,
Like I don't care what I said, it was just.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Someone is one of the funniest. It's just our energies
are different. I'm liable to run across the stage. Just
the energy is different. And that night, the energy was
just different. It was not that she was less funny,
just the energy was different. And this is why I
loved that sister. She walked off the stage that night
after she closed the show. She walked by me and

(34:36):
she said, you hadline from now on, and she kept walking.
We never discussed it. We never discussed it. It takes
for me. It takes a person saying we want a
great show. We just want a great show. And that's
what that was. Miss Laura taught me how to warm
up food on a damn iron with a towel. She said,

(34:59):
bitch in the prison, we don't have no microwave, and
we're gonna eat these buffalo wings. Flip that iron over
and wrap that rentals wrap up and cover it with
that taib Baby them buffalo wings was so damn good.
We just But did we get treated fairly? Held to
the No, No, we did not. There were times on
that Queens of Comedy tour that I had to even

(35:21):
on that tour, I had to say some things because
it wasn't fair and the way we were being treated
it was not fair. There were times when money wasn't right.
And I remember the first date for the Queens of

(35:42):
Comedy and I got a call from my agent and
she says to me, no more C and D promoters.
You're in the big leagues now, Walter Latham want you
to be a part of the Queens of Comedy. Okay, No,
I'm no.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Your problem because he's the exactly producer of the Kings
of Comedy. Correct, this is.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Gonna be a blast.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
The first check I got, let me sip for.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I tell you hell, I might man to take me
a step too.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
My banker called me up and said, Monique, this check
is no good. I said, excuse me, the money jump
fight it sip again, damn it, I might need a
little some strong hold on damn it saying the money
is no good. I said, what you say? She said, Monique,

(36:36):
this check is no good. So I immediately got on
the phone with my agent and I said, let me
tell you something about seeing d promoters. My money always good.
Now I need you to get Walter Lathan on the phone.
Walter Lathan, from here on out, I will only accept
cash from you moving forward. You have two hours to
get the money into my account. If not, take me

(36:56):
off of the Queen's of Comedy tour.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
You make it right.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
He made it right. You saw me on a tour,
didn't you. And then one night this is why people
could say that's a problem. If I tell you I'm
going to pay you fifty thousand dollars and twenty five cents,
what are you expecting. So one night they tried to

(37:24):
give me what was not all of it. I need
all of it. I don't care if it's a little bit,
it's mine. Right until you get it, my throat hurts.
So they had to go, I get sick on. I'm
saying that.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
The weather.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Well, I performed that night because they had to go
get my money. Right, then they started selling shows off.
So what that means is now you got different promoters
coming in. We're women, we are women, okay. Some more
had an assistant and I had an assistant, And both
of our assistants were not the kind of men that
was gonna fight. Okay, they might scratch you, but they

(38:09):
weren't gonna ball their fists up and do no guffing. Okay,
So we're in a position now where we're trying to
defend ourselves because now you walking up, you walking up.
I'm a promoter. I'm a promoter. I'm a promoter take
pictures with my family. And we had no idea this
was happening. One night. We're on the Kings and Queens, right,

(38:29):
and oh how Bernie mac is missed? Oh how he's
missed because he was a real one. Right, All the
Kings of comedy had limos separate. Steve had one, Bernie
had one, said you had one, dl had one, all
of them. Then another limousine pull up and they say,
this is for the Queens of comedy. I said, I

(38:50):
will not. I will not. You better pull up four
separate limousines. You're gonna treat this the same way you
treated them. We helped seller forty four thousand people. That
wasn't just the kings. It was the kings and the queens,
So you will treat us accordingly. All the kings got
Rolex watches when.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
It was over, what y'all get?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I'm still waiting for mine. That's the treatment. So when
people say why won't y'all do the queens again? It
was a moment in time, and it was a beautiful
moment in time, and something should be left where they were.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Wow, this is what I want to get to I
want you to get to it. A lot of this
happened with the movie Precious. That's the movie that made
Monique a star amongst she shined the brightest because you
played that role. Nobody else could have did that role,

(39:55):
Justice mode, nobody You played it. And our room walking
out of the movie and I called my sister. I said,
she's gonna win the Academy Award for that role. I said,
it's almost like she was.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Born to play that role.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Now, now tell the correct me from wrong. Okay, Okay,
you shoot a movie. Yes, the movie wrap, you might
have to come back and do some voice over, some
hear some touch up work here or there.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yes, that's already stripped into the contract.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Now the promotion aspect of the contract, what were you
contracted to do? Because that seems to be where the
conflict seems to come in, because you was like, okay,
so tell the people that's gonna watch this and listen
to this. What was Monique contractually obligated to do as

(40:48):
far as the promotional aspect of Precious.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I was contractually obligated to promote the movie Precious under
Lee Daniel's productions. I promoted Precious under Lead Daniel's productions.
I did Oprah, I did magazines, I did TV shows,
I did all of the promotions. I was contractually obligated

(41:12):
to do.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
That was it. That was it.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I'm done with it. Okay. Now Precious is going to
can right at the time, I have the Monique Show,
I am on the spread the Love Tour, I have
toddler babies, and I'm also a wife. Okay, Monique. The
Monique Show is like down for maybe a couple of
days a week or so. I got some days off

(41:37):
on the tour. I'm gonna relax with my family because
once they sold the movie, you didn't sell me. WOOPI Goldberg,
See what Bigoldberg said. I could have schooled you and
told you what was expected when I didn't promote and
go overseas and you know how you just looked up

(41:59):
and the way yeah, whoopy Goldberg what you were saying
to me. I could have schooled you and told you
you're going to in that house and let them have
their way with you, right, and I'll be here when
you come back. So after I'm done with my promotions,
lions Gate reaches out to my husband. Initially they think
they're talking to my attorney, right, and they say, we

(42:23):
want Monique to come to can to she promoted so
well in the United States. We want her to go
international and promote the movie and do can Okay. I
told my husband, please let them know respectfully decline. I
appreciate it, but I respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend some
time at home. Lionsgate calls back, We really would like

(42:46):
for Monique to come to Can promote this movie. Please
let them know, respectfully decline, I'm gonna spend time with
my family. Lionsgate calls back and says, what is it
gonna take for us to get Monique to come to Can.
We'll give her another week in France. We'll upgrade her room.

(43:08):
My husband said, is there a dollar amount attached to
what you're asking for? Oh, we will never pay anyone
to promote a film. Never, he said, We understand, and
we're never gonna work for free. You're asking her to
do something that she's not obligated to do. Is this
the attorney? He said, Actually, I'm her manager and her husband.

(43:29):
Now we can put it on the husband's being difficult, right, Okay,
So I don't owe anybody anything. That's why I was
never sued. Now we go to the Hoodie Awards. Tyler
Perry is there, okay. Tyler Perry calls me in his room.
Now when I go into Tyler Perry's room, his staff
is in there. Now you're ready to holler laughing, Yes, okay,

(43:50):
I take my security in there with me because I
always want to have somebody with me. Right, Tyler Perry
does this, and the people scattered, They all left out
the room. I said, look at this shit right here.
You saw me, and they all scattered.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
That wasn't a light. That's for the people.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
You don't light lights on, lights off because they got
their asses about it.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
So at the time my security look at me. I said,
you don't work for Tyler Perry.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
You could touche.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So Tyler Perry says to me, listen, Monique, we really
need you to, you know, promote this film because if
you get nominated for the Oscar, your next movie is
gonna be three to five million dollars. If you win it,
your next movie is six to eight million dollars. I said,
Tyler Perry, who you talking to? I'm a black woman.

(44:42):
Weren't they gonna pay that kind of money. No, I'm
telling you that's what it is. And if you just
go and promote it, I said, listen, brother, you can
pay me to promote it because at the time, now
him and Oprah producers on the film. I said, you
can pay me to do it. I don't care where
the check coming from. But y'all just he said, I'm
not in the habit of giving out money for free.
I said, and I'm not in the habit of working

(45:03):
for free. But you gave TD Jakes a check for
a million dollars. But that's another story, and I'm back.
So when he then says that, it's like, listen, we
both mutually agree. You don't give out free money. I
don't work for we hugged Shannon. When we were done talking,
we hugged. Do you hear me?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
We hugged like brother and sister. Like it's cool. He understand. Okay.
Oprah Winfrey calls my husband. I want you to take
your time because I'm getting going. Yeah, because the people
at home, they sitting there like morning, what happened? I'm great.
Take She calls my husband. My husband explains to her

(45:44):
what's going on. She says, there have been times I've
had to draw the line in the sand. So my
husband said, well, what is different between you and Monique?
You've got to draw the line, and you're saying when
you know they're asking you for too much. She says,
you're absolutely right, and I understand your position. You're right
in the position you're taking. So when you're looking at

(46:05):
me saying, well, what happened, I'm telling you what happened.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
But Okay, she's saying that privately. But did she voice
that publicly?

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Did you hear her say it?

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Did you hear saying JT. Did you hear her say
it fact? Did you hear saying zach Regina? Did you
hear her Tommy? No? One seemed to hear that publicly.
She said that privately. Now when she said that, see
everything we're saying to you, it can be proven. She

(46:38):
had him on speakerphone and that when she was talking
to him. In that room was a man named Reggie
Wells who just passed, who used to be Oprah Winfrey's
makeup artist, who he had a conversation with me and
my husband. Now for you babies, that's good with the
little Internet. We had a show on called Monicae Sidney
find a Way to Be Unoffended, Finding a Way to

(46:59):
be Unoffended. Reggie Wells is on that show speaking about
Oprah Winfrey. Reggie Wells said, Monique, I was there that day,
he said, and when y'all got off the phone, he looked.
I looked at her and said, why don't you just
pay this woman the money she deserves it? And she
looked at him and said, I won't be paying on nothing,
And he said that's not right. And you know it's
not right now. That man shared that on that show.

(47:22):
So I'm not saying nothing that hasn't been shared. So
you have people that will say things in private but
won't do it publicly. I'm the person that I will
say it in private, and I'm going to say it
publicly because that's the only way we make it right.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
But you don't need somebody to talk good till your face.
You need somebody to talk good behind your back.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So if you telling me, if you're telling me what
a great person I am in my face, but you're
telling me I'm dog poop behind my back, what good
is that?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (47:51):
What does that make those kind of people? Shannon's what
does it make those kind of cowardly? That is cowardly? See,
here's what's this When we have our juggernauts, Oprah Winfrey
Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart. These are our juggernauts
of our community. These are the people that our babies say,

(48:12):
when I grow up, I want to be that. I
want to be like that. So we have to call
those people to the met and say, listen, what are
you teaching our babies. You're feeding poison because you're showing
them you're private jet. I'm gonna show you my mansion.
I'm gonna show you my fancy cars. But my character
is shot and I'm bankrupt. I got a lot of

(48:32):
money in my bank. It's more zeros than some of
them can than we can imagine. But their character, they're bankrupt.
Those are bankrupt people. So everybody that cats sat right
here and told you about, I can't wait to see
your next interviews with those people.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
They ain't coming on now.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Moot invite them I have, They're not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Well, look I've already done Steve. I have a relationship Steve.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
He doing them again, do him again? And I'm gonna
say this.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I'm trying to get Oprah and tylerdo baby. We got him,
y'all come on stop playing?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Hey, coming on more? Thanks?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Do you you know how And I don't want to
put you on a spot, but I'm gonna say it
because I appreciate you as a black man and what
you're doing. If you are my friend and someone says
to me Monique Shannon shot wronged me and you my friend,

(49:32):
I'm gonna call my friend you and I'm gonna say, hey,
is what they're saying true? And if you get to
hymen in han, I'm gonna tell you till you fix it.
You and I can't talk because if you'll do them
that way you do, it'll be a matter of time
before you do it to me. So if Steve Harvey
is your friend, you call your friend up and you

(49:54):
ask him, is what our sister saying right, man? Because
if it is, we can't do that to her. If
that's our sister say it took a transgender named T. S. Madison.
It was a guy named Jamaica Carter. Jamaica Carter and
our mutual friend, Jamaica Carter and our friends T. S.
Madison was a mutual friend. So Jamaica called me and said,

(50:14):
would you mind doing TS Madison's show?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
I go do T. S.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Madison's show. When I talk T. S. Madison when the
camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend is wrong. She said,
moniquely Daniels is my friend. I said, then you need
to call your friend and tell him to fix this shit.
She said, I will within a couple of days. Who
did I get a call from Lee Daniels. See that's
a friend, that's a true friend, and saying I love
you so much that I want to make sure that's

(50:40):
not on your heart or your conscience. Let's fix it,
Let's make it right. So when people asked Lee, now,
when we did the deliverance together, how was it to
work with mo Nique, it was as if we had
never parted ways because he fixed it, he owned it,
and he took accountability for it. I can't now keep
you to the cross because you've owned it. I've had
to be forgiving, right. So I appreciate that someone had

(51:03):
grace and mercy with me. So I'm gonna have that
with other people when they take accountability for what they've done.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
How much did you make for the role Mary Impression?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I was paid fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
That's it, and I never complained because that's what I
signed up for, was an independent film, right, So when
my friend called me, and I'm gonna quote him, he said, bitch,
this one right here, right here, he said, this shit
is crazy. By the time I got the page ten,
I called him back. I said, what the hell is
this lee? He said, bitch, I know, he said it's sick.

(51:38):
After my husband and I read that script, he said, Mama,
if you play this with no judgment when he say action,
don't judge the character just becoming, this is an award
winning Yes, this is award winning. So with all of
that being said, I never complained about the fifty thousand dollars.
I did everything I was supposed to do. No, oh, nothing.

(52:00):
It is when they started asking me to become a slave.
It is when Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey started asking
me to work for free. It is when they started
doing the bidding for whoever the gatekeeper was at the
time to say we can get her. Remember the scene
in Sparkle You ever seen Sparkle with Irene Carrol and
Feeling Michael Thomas. Remember when they was in the car

(52:23):
because the jew men was trying to get him to
sign over that contract and he kept shaking his head
like you will not get me to turn my back
on this woman. That's what this is. We ain't turning
out back. My husband ain't turning his back. He ain't
signing her for something he know ain't right. And people
have a problem with that. And we got to keep
speaking on the Shannon because the next one's coming. For real.

(52:46):
I would hate for you to have to sit another
sister in this chair and she tell you the same story.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
So considering you one the Oscar, normally when you win
the Oscar, not saying you're gonna want another or get
Oscar worthy scripts, but there's normally a run where you
and you know two three films. Now, Monique that fifty
thousand is five hundred or a million or two million.

(53:15):
You feel feel that you were blackball from that point,
and Monique did not make the money what she should
have been compensated for future roles.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Let's tie it all back in Okay, Okay. You have
a man that says a lot on you. Yes, I
put a rumor out there on you, Yeah, and I
said I was gonna apologize. But then you have another
man that comes back when I'm offered empire and says, mo,
they said you're difficult to work, which you're going to
be a problem. Where would they get that from work?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Somebody that as powerful as as timing?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Okay, so now I'm scratched from that. Yeah, right now,
when it comes to movies, I'm a difficult person to
work with. Anybody ever had a problem with me?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
They never said, did they say, did anybody say that
pride oppression?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
No, not prior oppression. Right, I've never had a problem
with nobody as long as I was saying, yes, you good.
The moment you start challenging, we got a problem.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
What about the Parker? What about Moesha?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Had anybody said anything pride about Monique's character prior to
her not wanting to do international press what she's wasn't
contractually obligated to do?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Proud of that? Nobody said anything.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Never. The only person that could say anything that is
a producer is a guy named Will Packer. I did
a movie called Almost Christmas. When Will Packer sat down
with my husband and I Shannon, every other word out
his mouth was queen, you are queen, and then the
queen and the queen and the queen, and we just
want you to do a cameo and here's what we're

(54:50):
gonna pay you. My husband said, Will, that does not
cover the mom with Nick doing promotions. That covers none
of that. Brother, This is just for the cameo.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yes, the director was David Talbert. My husband and David
Talbert were college roommates. They were across the hall from
on it right in the script. I was that quick
because it's a cameo. Okay, So ninety nine percent of
the things you heard may say it was Monique, it
was me at Libby, Yeah, okay, because it's a cameo.

(55:23):
When we had a meeting with Will pack and Will
Packer says, if you do this for me, I'll give
you a three pitcher deal, and they sit com Now
we have all of this in writing. It's all and right.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
What were you? What were you? What were you?

Speaker 1 (55:35):
What were you needing to do a press? You were
gonna need to do press for it. You don't need
to promote it or just just.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Do the just do the cameo. That is what was
agreed upon. We were gonna do a cameo for the
amount of money that he said they were gonna pay,
no problem. Well, what they did was they kept spreading
it out. They kept spreading this character out. We want
you on this scene and that scene in this.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Scene, ain't no cameo cameo.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Okay, okay, David Talbert is out, is our friend. We
don't want to make this bad for David Tybert. So
we said, okay, no problem. Now let's talk about the treatment.
While we're on that set of Almost Christmas, there were
a few things that was happening that I took issue with.
Will Packer is a producer. He came on that set

(56:18):
and tried to give us a direction while the director
was standing right there. I said, Will Packer, I will
not allow you to do that. You would never do
that to Steven Spielberg. You would never do that to
a white director. You as a producer, going to just
walk in and give a direction. So I will not
take direction from you. If you have something you want
to give to me, you give it to the director,
and you have the director to give it to me.

(56:39):
You are disrespectful to him. Now. I had a meeting
in David Talbot's trailer with Will Packer, David Talbert, and
the first ad because they were being disrespectful to this
black man, and I was not gonna allow that to happen.
I had a conversation with the first ad and I
pulled him outside. I said, listen, brother, when it's your turn,
I won't let nobody do it to you. But what

(57:00):
I'm not gonna do a stand by and watch you
give a direction after the director give us a direction.
It confuses the cast and it's disrespectful. And to that
black man's credit, his eyes filled up with water and
he said, I appreciate you for having this conversation with me. Okay,
so we'll pack, and I now at odds because I'm
seeing how this brother is acting. I'm in my trailer.

(57:23):
My assistant at the time, her name was Robin, right,
Robin is in her fifties. She's in my trailer with
her shoes off. She's on the computer. We'll packer's friend
or I'm not sure what title to give her. Okay,
she comes into the trailer. Now, in this trailer, it
is me, my hairstylist, makeup artist, and my assistant. This

(57:44):
young lady who we're all old enough to be her mother.
She comes and looks at my assistant and says, what's
your shoes doing off?

Speaker 3 (57:53):
You and your trailer? Why do you care?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I said, excuse me, you're out of order. You canna
come in here questioning nobody in my trailer as a
matter of fact, And her energy was not that I'm playing,
It was what I said, as a matter of fact,
I need you to go get well because I'm not
even gonna have this conversation with you. I'm gonna talk
to your boss. When Will Packard comes into that trailer

(58:16):
for us to talk, do you know what that man
says to me and my hairstylist and my makeup artists
and my assistant. I am the head, nigga in charge.
Everything stops with me. I said, Well, I want to
let you notice. Will, You're gonna hear that you're the
head and nigga in charge for me as many times
as I can tell people, that's what you said. I said.

(58:37):
And furthermore, you need to check your assistant because this
is my space. We weren't in your trailer with our
shoes off. We're in my space with our shoes off.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
But why would he come Why would he come to
you with that type of managery? What led what.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Led him to say that when all you asked his
assistant to do was to go get him because she'sler
have the truth.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
That's a good one because what I said to him was,
who do we need to talk to this young lady?
Can't be up in here like that. And that's when
he became the head nigga in charge. And then I said,
who are you the head and nigga in charge of?
We have Danny Glover on this set. We have a
legend and the icon. Are you the head nigga in
charge of him? Are you the head nigga in charge
of Kim Lee Elisee? Are you the head and nigga
in charge of Gabrielle Union? Are you the head nigga

(59:23):
in charge of JB. Smooth? Who are you the head
and nigga in charge of? So he tried to laugh
at and joke it. I said, I don't play that way, brother.
I said. The food is bad like what we're doing here.
The food was slopped. So when they say they didn't
have any food, the food we had, nobody ever ate
that food because it was just like you can feed
them anything. Now Here is where it gets even better.

(59:45):
Remember how to Rogie said the trailers were infested. Yes,
our trailers blew up. They blew up. Now whenever this
airs I'm gonna post the trailers blowing so the people
can see. But they blew up, and if any of
us were in those trailers, we would have been gone.

(01:00:06):
The trailers blew up. Now, when I was smelling the gas,
we went to the brothers that was hooking up the
trailers and we said, hey, we smell gas. They said, mo,
we let him know. Talking about the head nigga in charge.
We let him know. He just said okay and walk away.
I said he what He just said okay and walked away.

(01:00:29):
The trailers blew up. Did We'll packer reach out to anybody?
I can't say. He didn't reach out to me and say, hey,
is everything okay? Did you lose anything? Is everything good?
The only thing they wanted to know from me was
where was Aunt May's wigs? Huh? Where are those wigs?

(01:00:50):
Nobody asked, not the studio, not We'll Packer, not nobody
wow said are you good? Did you lose anything? Said
that the wigs blew up in the explosion. So to
understand what we have to deal with, and to understand
most people are too afraid to say it out loud

(01:01:14):
that we are being mistreated. This is this is not right.
So if that means y'all won't want to play with me,
I don't want to play with you either. Let's be clear.
I don't want to play with somebody that don't care
if I've blown up? What if we were in those trailers?
What do y'all say to my family? What do you say?

(01:01:35):
So with Precious, I owe no one anything. With almost Christmas,
I owed you nothing. However, I did it because we
had a relationship with a brother named David Towert and
we didn't want to send him do no drama, no nothing,
so we went along with it. Other than that Shannon's shop,
there is no one that can say that, will sit

(01:01:55):
in my face, on my husband's face and say we
had a bad experience with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I read that, you said, you read this is a
chapter of forgiveness. That's your thing, chapter of I didn't
say that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
That's what the guy in Hollywood reporter said. Okay, don't
put words in my mind. That's not what I said.
That's what his ass said.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Okay, Okay, that's what he said.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Listen, what would it take Mo? Mo? What would it
take for Mo need to forgive? Oprah and Tyler Perry.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Be accountable, Be accountable as you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Want Tyler Perry to say what he said on that tape.
You want him to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Public, and he costs my family millions. Yes, I want
to be very clear about that. If someone cost you millions,
do you want that bad?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Absolutely? So.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I'm no different than you, especially when I've done nothing wrong,
especially when you've admitted that you've lied, especially when you've
admitted that you started a rumor. Yes, you need to
compensate me and my family for Oprah, for Oprah Winfrey,
you owe me an apology. See sharning. Oprah and I
had a private conversation about our mothers. This the part

(01:03:11):
people don't know. I shared with that woman with me
and my mother were going through. Now my mother's no
longer here, right, And I shared with Oprah Winfrey what
we were going through and how I felt, and I was,
you know, you trying to balance it off because it's
your mother. And I shared that with you, and I
shared with her my family and what the dynamic was.

(01:03:33):
And you don't tell me you're gonna have my guide
their own parents. I was getting ready to say, God,
damn baby, it was right there. But you don't tell
me you great had my mother and my father on
your show, and you think that that's just okay. And
the way you try to apologize in front of a
group of women. If you think I've done anything wrong,
you're gonna stop that, right. I am very proud of

(01:03:55):
what you've accomplished in your life. We respect everybody, but
we over respect no one. And Oprah Winfrey walks around
like I can't be checked. I won't admit to that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I'm a firm believer more.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
No one is beyond repro no one at all. So
when you keep saying what is it, I'm gonna keep
answering you the same exact way. So if you talk
to your camera, I'm gonna talk to my camera and
see how they split the screen, and we're gonna invite
them at the same time. You talk to them first, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Tyler, Oprah, I would greatly appreciate it if you two
guys would come on club Shayshay, we sit down, we
have a conversation. This is not an interview, this is
not hard hitting. I want you to tell your truth,
miss Oprah Tyler, tell your truth and we can get.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
To the bottom of this. Because hey, we got an
icon here sitting on this couch and she's hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Oprah and Tyler. I want to say, I appreciate my
brother Shannon Shaw for saying what he just said. And
I want to clear something up. I'm not hurt personally.
I'm hurt for our community. I'm hurt that y'all would
allow yourselves to sit in something that you need, know
that you've done wrong, and not say anything that helps us.
Not so brother Shasha have said, y'all, come on on

(01:05:06):
the sofa, Opra. This liquor is good, okay, And I
understand you like cranberry and vodka. Okay. Roosevelt cart Right
told me your drink that you like, and you know,
he told me some other things with the drink that
you're like. Come on on, uncle Shay, Shay, let's have
a conversation. And well, you took yours all the way
down and I cannot okay, okay, I cannot. I cannot

(01:05:26):
do that you already did. Thank you, sugar. Now, when
we get ready wrap up, I'm gonna give you an
exclusive on something that I don't nobody know. Okay, don't
nobody know this, and it's gonna be something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
It's gonna be something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
It's gonna be something I want to get you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Look, I know it's dramatic, and if you don't want
to have to relive it, you don't have to what
you went through with your brother, Yes, when you're going
through that, how is that impacting you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Doing time? Because I think you're seven to thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
You better do your damn homework, Shannon Shaw.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
And the impact that has had on you and your
relationship with men.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Oh Lanning trying to be a journalist. Look at you,
damn it. You see you're trying to cut my brother
Wan's get off my brother boar inn pat Wow. Remember

(01:06:37):
when you said and I don't know if you said this,
so I don't want to quote it because I could
be wrong. But someone said, Shannon Shaw, don't mess with
black women.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
And before are you going to further? Can I say
this please? My grandmother told me something out the little boy.
She said, boy never chased a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Come on, dady, come on, come on, And you never
said that, right, Okay, So that's why I said I
got black kids. That's what I said. I said that
baby's black black. Yes, they're not confusing. We ain't trying
to see if she's Latin or Dominican. They black black,
they mama got black black. Everybody that's shit and mess
way was black black right? Black black? Okay, So there's

(01:07:20):
this thing with us that you can't tell us nothing.
And oftentimes when a black woman's been traumatized, she's guarded.
Now you take a black woman that's been traumatized and
now she got a little bit of money, and you

(01:07:43):
take black men, some of them that is impressed with
the money. So I can say to you what I
want to, not being totally disrespectful, but you know who's
running this. You know how we do this. I've always
had an aggressive personality. Yes, I have always jumped with

(01:08:08):
if I think you trying to violate, So to say
what did that do to me? It made me like this,
and it made me say I'll get you before you
can get me, because I know what it's like to
not be in control of what you're taking from me.

(01:08:29):
I know what it's like to be in a position
where there's nothing I can do right. So when it
came to men, baby listen, I had my share. Okay,
I'm not saying I was no whore, but I was close.
Hey come on, now, I'm saying to get back to me. Now,
get back to me. Call me later, call me later,

(01:08:50):
say and call me later. Baby, Come on, because you're
a football player with a lot of money. When you
go into a city and you was in your prime,
you had your pick. It's no different woman. When I
went to a city, everybody wanted to be professor Oglevie Hey,
and I would pick him. Okay, you look like you
could think bussy heard the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Now all of a sudden, you being this fat black woman.
It ain't a problem. God, I remember, I remember you
that it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Wasn't Let me say that, it wasn't never a problem
with me being a fat black woman because real black men,
they like them in all and size. It's all complex,
and it is these new nick rolls that get into
she gotta be this way, she gotta be that way.
But real black man, if you can pick a poundcake,
nugget what y'all talking about? What you talking about? But

(01:09:44):
what it did, though, was and this is why I
feel the way I feel about my husband.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I remember him saying to me one night because when
we first got together, I was I was a handful
of Shannon, and that's when I was really sick in
the that I thought, And he said, checked this out.
You've used your brother molesting you as a crutch for
your bad behavior, he said. And I won't allow that.
He said. When you was a little girl, there was

(01:10:12):
nothing you can do about it. But now it's a
grown woman. Every choice and decision you make, it is yours.
And I will not allow you to keep on saying
because of my brother, because at what point do you
take accountability for you baby? That grew me up and
that night that grew my ass up that night so
fast because I wanted I wanted to hear what myst
my psychiatrist was saying to me, I understand. My husband

(01:10:35):
was like, check this out, check this out. You are
in control of you, every choice and decision you make,
every one you lay down with that was your choice.
You've never come back to me and said you were
raped as a grown woman. You've never said that. So
stop holding onto that crutch, Stop holding onto that victim.
Because this happened to me. I'm mad for days and

(01:10:57):
not come up out of that. And when I want
to the psychiatrist right everything my husband said to me,
The psychiatrist said to me, But he said I needed
you to go to somebody that had no dog in
the fight because I didn't want you to think I
was judging you. I didn't want you to think that
because I know the history. I'm pointing my finger. So

(01:11:20):
when I would go to that psychiatrist, doctor Cassandra Juanso,
she's incredible. You'all want to know about red bottom shoes.
Let me tell you somebody that's gonna get your mind right,
doctor Cassandra Wanso. This woman was incredible. But every time
I would go to session, everything she said, my husband
had already told me. So me and men. I had
to come to grips with that. I had to come

(01:11:41):
to grips with being an insecure fat girl. And I
had to come to grips with my sister telling me,
ain't no man gonna ever really want you because you're fat.
I had to come to grips with my father was like, listen,
I'm here, but I'm really not. I had to come
to grips with those things. So my way of coming
to grips with those things was now, I'm a boss,
I'm in, I'm empowered. Don't you know I run this? See,

(01:12:02):
I too went to the Oprah Winford University of Empowerment,
and you don't need a man to make it. I
signed up and I was at the top of the
class till I realized I was going to be it empty.
I was going to be it with nothing but stuff.
I did not want to be the poor little rich
girl who have everything but nothing at all. Don't that
sound familiar? I did not want to be that, Shannon.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
So even for the men, even for the men that
I was with, right, you worked with them, I wasn't no, okay,
talk to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Me, Shannon, that that liquor usual. I wasn't with them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
That was just the body for the loanly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Liquor makes sh it sound good morning. Liquor would make
you not sound like a whole. It was just a
body for the lonely. Let me tell you what my
husband told me. Right, because I was at tears, I'm like,
I'm I'm you know, I was. I was a whole.
I was crying. I was because because when you come
to rips with it, when you realize how many, when
you realize what you've done, and you got to come

(01:13:06):
to grips with it. And now I'm sitting in front
of the greatest person I've ever met. And I gotta say,
I have been with this many And my husband looked
at me and said, Mama, you ain't no whore. You
just have friendly pussy. Didn't he make it right? So
for you horns out there, friendly pussy, that's what he

(01:13:29):
told me. He made it right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
So did you ever have a good relationship with your father?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yes? When I was a little girl, little, When I
was a little girl, my father could do no wrong.
When I was a little girl, baby, my father would
put me in that car and he would go to
the cut Race store and he get his liquor and
he go over mister Johnny House. Now I'm a little girl, right,
He go over mister Johnny House, and him and mister
Johnny go on the back and I could smell a reefer,
but I didn't know it was reefer, right, And they
smoke and they had their little drink to come back out.

(01:14:00):
I was attached to him. Me and my father start
having a problem when what he was saying to me
wasn't making sense. And now I'm about thirteen. He was
just he was He was a bullshitter, but he was
a good sound and bullshitter and so as a kids,
you'd be like my father know everything. But once I
started growing up and I started seeing the treatment that

(01:14:21):
he gave my mother. Never physically abusive, but mentally they
abused one another. I won't just put it on. But
once I started questioning him on just some of his
decisions and choices, I became the bad person. And I
went to my grandmother one time, Mini, I talked about
her there and my father. This was one incident that

(01:14:47):
sent me to my grandmother bent over crying. I was
trying to get a Ford festival right. It was four gears. Okay,
it was about two dollars, but I didn't have the
two dollars. I needed a co sign, right, So I
asked my father please co sign for me to get
this for in fest. Steve, and I'm gonna quote him.

(01:15:09):
He said, Nikki, you won't fuck up my credit. And
I'm like, well, what have I ever done to make
you think I would fuck up your credit? If I
pay my rent on time, I'm responsible. I go to work. No,
the next week, not only did he co sign for
my sister, he just signed for my sister, like he
put the car in this name, right. I go to

(01:15:30):
my grandmother, and I'm like, Mammy, why would he do that?
Like she said, Nikki, every parent knows their weakest link,
and every parent knows the one that's gonna be okay.
She said, You're gonna be okay. At that point, I
wiped my tears and I'm glad he didn't co sign.

(01:15:50):
I'm glad I had to bust my ass to get it.
I'm glad I had to figure it out. I'm glad
he didn't just come and rescue it. I had to
figure it out. So that's why right now, when I
sit here and you go through a decade of being
black ball or whatever, you're difficult and all. Let it
allowed me to keep standing. It allowed me not to

(01:16:10):
It allowed me not to go sit on a couch
with Oprah Winfrey and say I'm sorry for nothing I've
ever done to you. That's what those lessons taught me.
Stand in it and stand strong, unapologetically.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Do you speak a lot doing this interview? Spoke a
lot about cursives and the trauma. How do we break
that generational trauma, that curse that is that in our community.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
What we've said from the beginning, and that's truth. It's
just the truth. We get so comfortable based off of
lies that the lies become the truth. I think if
we just started dealing with the truth, address, address it.
Even when it doesn't put you in a good light,
it eventually does put you in a good light because

(01:16:53):
then people start talking about your honor and your character
and your integrity. If I've wronged you, please tell me,
Please tell me, and then show me where I've wronged you.
If you can say, Monique, this is what you did
right here, then I owe you an apology. But if
our community dealt in truth, how much further would we be.

(01:17:14):
That's it. That's how I think we make it better.
We deal in the absolute truth.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
But sometimes, you know, it's kind of like what I
tell people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I would explaining it some when I said, just imagine
you went to the doctor, Lord forbid, that's happened. You
have cancer, but we're not gonna treat it. It's gonna
go away. No doctor will tell you that you have
something going on. We're not gonna talk about it. It'll
just go away.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
That's what they bank on. That's what they bank on.
And too many of our black women have gone to
their graves. They've left here in despair. They've left here
broken hearted, broken, broke down, and we got a chance
to see it Enliven in person with our beautiful sister
to Araji Hinson.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
What gave you the courage? Your Netflix? They offer you
one thing. You found out they had gave someone ten
times that, No, twenty times, come on, twenty six, twenty
six times that. And you're like, no, no, no no,
no no no no no, no, no no no, I'm
not paying to do that. We're not gonna do that.

(01:18:21):
We're gonna do fair.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
That's what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I mean, you speak about diversity, and you talk about
doing the right thing. Okay, this is an opportunity for
you to put that instead of being lip service. Okay,
put pay in the paper. Let's make it right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I didn't know any other way. I didn't know any
other way. See when I heard Wanda Psyke say I
support you, I just want somewhere else. I don't know
how to do that, especially when it's wrong. If we
keep just going somewhere else, we'll keep getting mistreated. But
when you hear Amy Schumer and this was not something
I found out they publicly said it was. It was pride.

(01:18:56):
We paid Amy Shermer eleven millions. She came back and said,
I'm not a legend icon, but I should get at
least two more million, and they gave a thirteen million. Well,
when Netflix says to me, you are a legend, you
are an icon. When Robbie Praul says that, well, why
is my legend and icon different than these people legend
and icon? That's all? And when I say, we were

(01:19:18):
able to come to the table and we were able
to make it make sense, and we were able to
do the special, and we appreciated them saying, listen, how
can we work this out?

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
You know what happens with that. People were having callings
when I said, this is not right. I was donky
the other day. Remember that I was donkey of the day.
The breakfast Nubs called me the donkey of the day.
That's what they said. And they had a whole calling
about how I was donkey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
But you didn't do the same thing when you found
out was settled. Now all of a sudden, don't nobody
know what a settlement is? I mean, well we don't
even really. It was really really quick. We just want
to throw it away. That Netflix special, It was just
it was just like, no, guys, I gotta I gotta
stand up because if not, that little girl coming behind
me for real, right, that has that resume. I want

(01:20:13):
to let her know you can fight, baby, right, you
just don't have to say okay, you can stand.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Would you be willing to do another Netix Netflix special?

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah? I had a great time. I had a great time.
I had a great time. Now for me, specials are specials, right,
It's something special, right, so you know we'll see right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
You know, I'm wanted to ask people that that I
hear our community called you know, the community called me
up and they call you Auntie?

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Do you wear that with a badger courage like I do?

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
I wear it? That was such an honor for you
babies to put Auntie on my name. Do y'all know
how that made me feel? And I'm not the auntie
that's gonna tell you the shit that you want to hear.
I'm the auntie that's tell you what you need to hear.
So for the things that I have said about our
community and our babies and our sisters, I cannot back

(01:21:08):
down because y'all gave me the title I didn't ask
for it. But when they gave it to me, Shannon,
that was the universe saying you now sit in that seat. Yep,
you are now responsible. That's why I must speak out,
and I must speak gladly, and I must say it
to the top of my lungs, because God damn Fanny
lou Hama didn't do it for me. God damn if

(01:21:28):
he didn't do it for me, God damn if MIM's
maybe didn't do it for me. The ones that came
before us, and as a woman still alive named Sylvia
Treymore Morrison, that woman got paid in a Coca Cola.
That woman got paid in a Coca Cola at her
next gig and five dollars. She was the first black
woman to write for Saturday Night Live. But they have
a listed as a production assistant and she's still alive.

(01:21:52):
That's why I speak the way I speak, because I
will not let them wash her out of history as
if she never existed.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Wow, dady, what what advice is somebody?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
If if a group of women were in here, it's like,
come on, they talked to us, how this dating?

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Because this is is more its different now than when.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
You and now it's different, baby, I'm grateful. I'm not
fifty six and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Trying, but you try to say what you try to say.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I'm looking right at you. I ain't banging down. You
better take your own ass and get somebody to love you. Now,
I'm looking right tell y'all. Was Shannon Kneed. I tell
you what my baby need. He need him old fat
down who can bake good cakes, make some smother turkey wings,
who gonna rub his feet at the night time, okay,

(01:22:43):
and gonna have a sip of his cognac to make
him feel better about himself when they come home at night.
That's what Shannon need. You don't need no twenty six
year old girl. You don't need no thirty six year
old girl. This is your auntie talking to you. Take
your old ass and get your old bitch out there
that can love your old You're trying to hang out
with these young bitches and you, yeah, you can't do it,
saying it. You just can't do it. They want you

(01:23:04):
to go for the fourth round. You're looking at her like, bitch, listen,
I need you. You want some money to go to
stop us because I can't go my further. But if
you get your older girl when you get to that forthfron,
she's gonna say, hold on, hold on, let me go
get you some eggs and cheese and some toast with
apple butter, because that's gonna get your energy back up.
I'm talking right to you. Shit, So he thought I

(01:23:24):
was gonna be scared. I'm talking. I know old gals.
She'd be good to you. Her name is Eldora. Now
when you know somebody named el door old school. Now,
Miss Elladora told me to tell you. She said, I
think he like red velvet. I say, miss Elladora, if
you do like her, she said, you let him know
I got something fun. Unless you don't have no teeth,

(01:23:46):
come on, pick your glass up and the young girls
will bite you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Okay, yeah, okay, I guess I gotta come on home, come.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
On home saying it. And y'all stop putting lines out
about my brother, because I was in my feelings when
y'all said he didn't date black women. Y'all stop that shit.
You're stopping that he might throw a white women there
every now and no, And it's okay, it's okay because
sometimes there you we ain't in everything, we don't do everything.
So sometimes uncle Shay, Shay need a spice of life.

(01:24:19):
You need to go across the street. But he always
gonna come back. That's all we said. And you open, Tyler,
come on home, Come on home, Come on Homeme, come
on home.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Seerra says, a lot of women talk about Cereral's freer,
but when the God says a good man, they don't
want them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
I cannot speak for them. I can only speak for
me because when the universe sent mine to me, baby.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
You was ready. You was ready, and he sent that
man to me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Even this morning, I thank the universe for that man.
Right there before I came on air with you, I
was talking to him.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
He said, Mama, you heard me talking. Say I say, hey, daddy,
yeah I did. Because we've not been trained. We've not
been conditioned to understand you. We've been trained to fight
against you, right, we've been trained to go against you.
We've watched our mamas, our grandmamas, our aunties speak ill
of a black man. So now when a black man

(01:25:11):
comes and they good, you're waiting for the bad. Because
Grandmama told you black man one shit. Mama told you
black one man shit. Your auntie said black man and shit.
So all you have in your mind is black man
ain't shitting. So when you get that beautiful black man,
he's now got to say to you, erase everything they
told you because I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Or then you treated like that and then he goes
and you talk about now you're mad.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Because he don't want you the white girl, Shannon. Now,
y'all start treating Shanning good. Okay, start treating them good. Now,
shan and I got to catch my plane. Okay, this
is last night unless you want to send me back
on your jet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
I wish I had one. I wish I had one,
but I'm gonna get you out here on this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
See what y'all did?

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
You heard what Shaq saying?

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Shaq saying, say the ass Shaq. Should a man open
up to a woman? Shaq said, no, he says, because
if you do, they're gonna use it against you. He said,
because if I break, if I crying about something, they
gonna say the first time they get mad, they gonna say,
see you crying cause your daddy?

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Say what he said?

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
How do you take advice from a man who has
no woman? And I love Shaq, but how do you
take advice from my brother that has no one. Okay,
if you have that person in your life and you say, listen,
I'm dealing, I'm going through. Who else do you talk
to at nighttime and your pillow talk? Who else do
you share your life with? Who are you sharing with

(01:26:26):
your life with? Shaq? Do you tell another man about
your situation and does he make you feel better?

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Who do you share your life with? So I don't
agree with that at all. And I love my brother,
but I don't agree with that. I think that makes
the vision because if I gotta call my girl and
I talk to my husband. When I heard Oprah say,
and these are her words, not mine, she said, when
I be stressed out and I be going through it
after the show, I would come home and Gail could

(01:26:52):
calm me down and put me to sleep. What's you say?

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
What's that much?

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Then you said it, I'll get here. I would get
open on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
But those are her words. So I believe that partnership
is partnership all the way around. When I leave this earth,
there is nothing my husband will not know about me
and the other way around.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Did you know after your first two marriages you're gonna
get married again, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Because my first two marriages were just marriages. Of My
first marriage was you just couldn't have the milk without
buying the cow, right, That was the first marriage. And
we were boxes every We were Friday night fights. Okay, okay,
we were. It wasn't domestic bolence. We was friday night fights. Okay.
I took a l sometime, but sometime I didn't, okay, okay, okay, okay.
The second one was I couldn't afford to pay my rent, right,

(01:27:40):
and I didn't want to have a boyfriend. Right, So
that's why I said, this is the first time I've
really been married.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Right, tell me the story that you wanted to share
that nobody else knows that you was gonna share with us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
You all ready for this, I'm ready for it. I
want you to move in. That man that was sitting
right here on this couch, his name is Cat william Yes,
Cat Williams, and I have a relationship with fraternal twins.

(01:28:11):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
That's it. That is my twin, my spiritual fraternal non
by logic brother. We're a twins, baby, Yes, we are.
That was it, and that was all. Don't nobody know that.
But you, Cat Williams, don't even knowice it. That's what
makes it so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
So Cat, I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him
and say, hey, I met your sister for the bed person.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
I need you to tell him.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Money. Do you want to promote anything? You got anything
you want to promote that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Here's what I'll say. Just keep watching, Just keep watching.
I'm promoting life. Just keep watching. And I love y'all
for real, my babies.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Thank you for watching. Monique. Ladies and gentlemen, we thank
you so much. I really appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
All my life and grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,
pay the price, Wanta Slice got to brow the dice,
whap all my life. I've been grinding all my life,
all my life and grinning all my life. Sacrifice, hustle,
pay the price, Wanta Slice got to bro the dice,
sap all my life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I've been grinding all my life.

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