Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Lose Game 1 to Timberwolves + Bucks in trouble!

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to Round 1 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, LeBron James, Luka Doncic, and the Los Angeles Lakers taking on Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves, Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets beating Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, and the Los Angeles Clippers, Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Milwaukee Bucks falling to Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers, Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks beating Cade Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons, and much more!

06:50 - Timberwolves vs. Lakers
26:12 - Knicks vs. Pistons
33:19 - Nuggets vs. Clippers
43:30 - Pacers vs. Bucks
59:30 - Suns looking to build defense in offseason

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Wolves dominate, takeover in the what the third quarter and

(05:27):
blow the game open. Well, actually they took over in
the third second quarter and blew the game wide open
and scored the Lakers by eighteen in the second quarter
after being down by seven, and they really never look
back after that and they win one seventeen to ninety five.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was a balanced effort.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You got sixteen from Julius Randall, twenty five from Jade McDaniels,
who was eleven or thirteen, three or three from the three.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
At man.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
He wasn't efficient shooting the ball, but he was dominant
as enormous self twenty two points. And it was Nods
Reed coming off the bench eight or twelve from the field,
six to nine from the three twenty three points. The Lakers,
with the exception of Luca, nobody really played well and uh,
in order for them to get back in this series,
because the home the home team has lost home court

(06:15):
in the first grade the first game, and normally that's
not what you want to see. But they still got
a ways to go. They got they this is an
absolute muscle on Monday night, Joe. They've got to get
this game. But Lebron ar and they got to get
some help from the bench. But watching this game, tell me,
what did you see? What did you like about what
you saw from Minnesota? And what didn't you like about

(06:37):
what you saw from the Lakers? I just I smelled
trouble for the Lakers. Man. Uh, you know, we've seen
the Minnesota Timberwolls being in this position, knocking off teams
whether it was Phoenix, whether it was denver So and
man them, he known the going and he known the
going in somebody else building. You know, stick up some wins.
Play play very effective basketball. Even though he didn't. Well,

(07:00):
I thought you put so much pressure on the rim
and created so many other opportunities for the guys. But man,
if you got nas reed and McDaniel's gonna shoot like
that from three, you in trouble, it's gonna be off
for you to win that game. So you know, those
guys were very fishing tonight, and they just outplayed the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
The Lakers looked a little tharshy.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
They just didn't Outside of Luca having their great first
run outside that, they just look they looked like they were.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Stuck in mud a little bit. To me.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, they didn't match. They didn't need to understand. This
is the playoffs. This ain't no regular season. It's different.
And they didn't. They didn't come out you know, they
came out really good in the first quarter. But that
second quarter, and we know the Lakers, after watching them
ball your Joe, they're gonna have a quarter where they
take it completely off. Now it's normally the third of
the fourth quarter. It's not normally the first half. It's

(07:52):
normally they come out at the half or they you know,
the fourth quarter. But we saw this turn of events
in the second quarter where if they ended up giving
up at thirty eight points after giving up twenty one
in the first quarter, they gave up thirty eight and
then they gave up another thirty five in the third quarter,
So they gave up what is that seventy three points
in two quarters? Oh, you're watching this game, what's your takeaway?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Listen? First off?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
First off, you know, the Lakers didn't come out to
match the Wolves in intensity, the intention.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
On both sides of the court, there was no intensity.
They didn't play defense very well. Nobody played well on
the Lakers offensively outside of outside of Lucas. So if
if if Lebron is off, then if Lebron is off,
of Lucas on, somebody else has to come. It got
to be Aer, you gotta be Ruie, you gotta be
somebody has to have some points collectively as a group.

(08:42):
If your starters aren't final all senators, ant Man doesn't
have a good game. Hell Reid comes off the bench
and he cut the food. Mcd Daniel was playing. Well,
it was just a bait. It was a bad It
was a bad game all around for the Lakes in general.
And normally you have home court ad manager and you
plant it home. You don't want the Home the Way

(09:03):
team to steal a game at home.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
You don't want to happen.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So they put them They already put themselves out in
the hole. So Monday night, like you said, they got
to have it. If they lose Monday Night's game, it's good,
They're gonna be in a heap of trouble.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Hey, hey, you see you see it. Uh, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's hard to play Jackson Hayes when you're switching all
the pick and rolls and you ain't giving up them
live threats. Yeah, fresh on the rem it is. And
I plus the thing I think they're switching. They're too
easy switching. I mean, as soon as the guys starts
to show, they go ahead switching.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
No bro, fight, fight on the top.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Don't give up you copping out out on them. Don't
do that. Hey, Penny Smith, don't know. Don't pass it
off the gay Vincent, don't pass that off the Luca.
No fight through that. The little soft picks. They said, Joe,
come on, bro, you gotta go harder than that now
because it's easy. Oh you just back where you go
ahead ticket. That's what ed won't. And you see they

(10:02):
keep calling, they keep calling Luca. Nah, we won't Luca,
and they gonna keep no matter who he done. They
try to put him on the wikeed Man, they putting,
They putting the uh what's no boy named uh Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
They bringing Rudy Gobar.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Damn near the damn half court to set the pick
because they're like, hey, we won't whoever Luca's garden, you're
gonna be the pig guy, right, Oh, Gabe Bison because
he's gave his what six foot tall if we were
lucky and so, but they gotta fight.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think they just gotta fight hard on the pick. Now.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Look, if a team gonna be knocking down those threes
like they knocking out, it's gonna be tough. Yep, it's
gonna be tough. It's not like the Lakers shot particularly
bad from the three, But when you let a team
shoot twenty to make twenty one of them and they
shoot fifty percent, they shoot fifty percent from the floor.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Well, you got your work cut out.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
They couldn't get muto stops, couldn't get nothing. No, you're right,
your afflue, right, they got it. So you keep taking
the ball out the net, man, it's gonna know, slow
our offense down a little more. You know, they already
a little so you know through movement it's great for him.
So you got to use missuses like fast breaks, and
they've been great at that. But hey man, timber Wars
weren't missing night. Them boys locked in.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But uh, the only the only hey, Joe, and the
only way the Lakers were going to fight any chance
to have any chance of getting back in this game
is they were gonna have to steal points in transition.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
That was that was the only way, and they weren't
able to do that. Well it is it have to
get some stops.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And like Joe said, when you taking the ball out
of the net, they couldn't get any stops because there
are a couple of times they forced the miss, but
you don't realize you've done nothing until you gained possession
of the basketball. So even if you force the miss,
if you don't gain possession of the basketball, you've done
absolutely nothing, and they wind them down a couple of
times late in the clock and they hit some threes. Joe,
you know that it's demralizing, especially in your building.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
If you wind them down.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You got them shooting the ball with one two seconds
on the clock and they splashing three or they're making
out stand. I mean, you're like, damn, well, what I
gotta do? Bro, I bet come on down. We don't
wind them down. We talk them about grinding them to
the nub and they didn't making shots like that. They
got a big boost. Uh, Devin Chimzo hit that shot
at at at that was a big Yeah. That was
a big boost going in for him because at that

(12:11):
point they were down eight. Now they go down eleven
and to start to start the third, Uh, they go
on like a ten to two run. So now all
of a sudden, you know, at eight part, what could
have been an eight point game is not twenty one
point lead. But they got to do a better They've
got to do a better job of Look look at
this Ruin minus twenty six, Lebron minus twenty two. Jackson

(12:33):
Hayes only played eight minutes. He was minus eleven, Luca
minus twelve. R minus twenty five Drian Phinismith minus eleven,
Van de Belt minus two. You ain't winning like that.
You can't so now. So now if you're Minnesota, now
you trying to be a little greedy. Yeah, yeah, I'm
trying to get sweet snakes. I'm trying to take both

(12:53):
of them. You came in, you and did what you
want to do. You just want to get one win.
You got the first one, why not be a little
we're going in second one. And you know this, Joe,
Normally that first one is the easiest to win because,
especially if the team has been laying off.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
You've got to realize the Lakers have been off for
eight days.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah yeah, and so you know, and they didn't play,
They didn't play Lebron, them didn't play the last game
in Portland, so they've been off a little longer. But
normally the first game is the one that you try
to steal on the road. Once we get that, we say, well,
hey we here, Hell, we might as well get another one.
You know what I'm saying, don't, Joe, You might as

(13:32):
well just try to go and get that second while
we're here. Guess what, we won't even have to bring
our hands back to LA if we go ahead and
handle our business in Minnesota. So the next game in
LA too, Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. Monday Night Draft Kings
no longer have Let's see what it says. Okay, the

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timber Wolf knocked out a playoff record twenty one threes.
Draft Kings no longer have the Lakers as the series' favorite.
Now Minnesota is minus one thirty five, the Lakers are
one fifteen plus one fifteen. Poor performance with Magic has criticism.
Coach JJ Reddick did a great job all season, but
he didn't do a good job for Game one. The
Lakers stood around on offense, played too much one on

(14:14):
one basketball, and didn't make any necessary adjustments. Tonight was
one of the Lakers' worst performances this season. They were flat,
had no energy, and they played like it was a
regular season game. All the things that we just spoke
about Magic just highlighted, so clearly they know you and
I and we know what we talked about here on
night cap. Steven A, I don't know why you had

(14:35):
to tag me. This ain't got nothing to do with you, man.
Someone just text me a message to send directly the
ass Shata Sharp triple A. NWA, I don't care what
Shehada has to say. Lakers ain't winning in five.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Hey, hold all, wait, wait a minute, now, this is
a good question, and I'm gonna impose this question to you.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Now you had Lakers in five.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Now, based on what you thought of the night, how
confident are you and the Lakers winning this series?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Them? Look, Lakers and five rolls off the tongue.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It don't side as good Lakers, and seven it don't
side as good Lakers as six.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
But I feel very cofety if it's six seventy don't
matter ligas in five.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
But what Magic said, if you watch them step they
were standing around Minnesota getting offensive rebounds, kick out three,
they put them through the picking roll that. Like I said,
they just got to do a better job of fighting
over that pig. You just can't give up that easy.
That's what they If you do that, they gonna keep
doing it. Fight over that fenny, fight over that banda belt.

(15:39):
You've got to make it a little bit more difficult
on the office, on the defense, on the offensive end,
for Minnesota has the ball defensively, Lakers, You're gonna have
to be a little tougher than what you showed tonight.
This is not nearly good enough, Lebron, this notion.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
As you get older, it gets hard and harder to
get in the rhythm.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
You see, he had no points in the first quarter,
had ten in the second, gave you three or four
in the third. You can't do that, because I get it.
You want to let Luca, and Luca can get going.
But in the process, but at what costs you get
Luca going in Now? Ar And and Bron don't have
no rhythm. Now they didn't. Look if you just look

(16:17):
at the numbers, they got seventy two, which is about
what they would average in the regular season. But when
you don't get any production from your bench, Remember we
talked about this. Joe Finnish Smith needs to give us
eight to ten off the bench, gave Benson needs to
give us six to eight off the bench.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Vanderbilt gives us four to six off the bench.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Ruin, you can't play thirty minutes and give us nine points.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
We need we did a little more. We need a
little better. We need a little better than that.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And so look, I'm not overly concerned, but hey, I'm like, okay, now,
I'm sure JJ's like, look, we didn't play, no work
close to our best. Now what you've done is giving
them confidence that they can come in and beat beat
our ass on our court, on our and our building.

(17:06):
Let's not let's not uh, let's not play a round.
Let's go ahead and get game two, because I don't
you don't want to be in a situation of Joe.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
A bad pass or a miscall.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Now you're down to going back to Minnesota and you
gotta get too to to make this.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Thing a serious soul. Look, the Lakers didn't play well.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
They know, forty seven points in the in the second half,
they got thirty in the third, they got seventeen points,
and they got it to cut it down with like
one point.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It was twenty seven. They got it all the way
down to twelve.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Joe, but it couldn't stated the Temple War was just
seemed more desperate, you know what I mean. It's like
they understood the moment and they understood you know the now,
like all right, we gotta we gotta get one.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And they gained the momentum.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Like I said, after after lookal one on the run
in the first quarter, that was it. This was pretty
much lethargic the whole game. Bro, It's like they were
just out there floating and uh, you know, Minnesota just
play with more great and they was effective.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
But that's the thing. But that's the thing though.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Joe is like, Yeah, if you look at if you
look at the Lakers, Lucas always gonna Luca's gonna have
a big quarter in the first half. It's either gonna
be the first quarter or it's gonna be the second quarter.
But he's gonna get off one of those. Yeah, And
that's why it's no surprise when you look up he's
got twenty points at the half, because normally he's gonna
go somewhere between ten to fourteen in a quarter.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Now if it's the first quarter, okay, he's gonna get
like a four to five minute break to start the second.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And it gets him out of a rhythm.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hell, hey, he get it going like that, Joe, I'll hey,
go back in there for the first two.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
To three minutes. I get you, I get you a rest.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I get you a rest a little later because it
because he cooled down substantially in the second quarter. He
called fire again. And but at that point in time
when you din like they like they were down and
Luca's going bucket for bucket with Aunt.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Or Daniels or navvied, you're rather not doing anything.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, Lebron gonna have to take over.
He's gonna have to take over the next game, and
take over early. Most of the time, he'll he'll he'll relax,
let Luci get his lanyard, get his let everybody do
their thing, and then pick up. And most of the
time Lebron to be efficient when he does decide to
turn turn it on. But he got to do it early.
He got to start off early. Let's say, how about
we not let Luca get in rhythm and Lebron gets

(19:24):
in rhythm first and then allows everybody to catch fire
at some point. Then then at that point, I think
it make a little it'll make a little easier as
opposed you already being behind and you're forcing the mission shots,
as opposed to have to be efficient and you're already
down twelve thirteen.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Hell, at one point, was it Laker? With that? What's
the most Laker was.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Down twenty seven almost thirty points.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, it was bad, man, it was bad. They got
to pick it up, man, They got to find a way.
Like I say, I think this Timberwolves team is very scary,
as we all know because they were just in the
Western Conference Finals last year. I know they traded, I
know Ket was there, but you know Julius round of
the night, you know he was effected.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Man, he played with great played with toughness.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And then you know those guys coming off the bench,
the mcdames, the Reids, they ruin you a game, Yes,
they ruin you a game. So now like I say, man, hey,
I'm looking forward to Minnesota trying to be greedy in
game too. And plus the thing of Joe, I've noticed this,
and I've noticed because I didn't notice until he got

(20:34):
to the Lakers, because that's the only time that we've
ever seen.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Lebron be injured.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
But when he have these drawing injuries, he's not the
same when he gets back because he does he's hesitant
because he knows and O Joe beeing And I don't know,
if you've ever had a growing or hamstring injury, you
know suddenness is the worst thing to happen. If you
watch Lebron no rebounds guys right there, he's just like
if the ball don't come directly to it. He ain't

(21:00):
making no sudden move to go get it well, and
it takes him a while. So he's really got to gather.
If you go back and look at that Chase down block,
he had to gather got it. They do a great
job of tracking. But if you watch it and I
noticed this is that he's not gonna do anything sudden
because he doesn't want to. He had that growing injury,
like like what the last game before that, maybe it

(21:22):
was the Rockets game.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
He felt that little twine and he came out and so.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Who hey, that understanding then, because he don't it's like
he don't rebound outside this area like he normally do,
you know, starting to break with that now, it's just
kind of like I said that first quarter, man, it
just kind of seemed like he was just kind.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Of floating me, you know what I mean. Yes, look
who was hot, but it's hard. Man.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Basketball is a rhythm game, you know what I mean.
Brun Bruhn is a rhythm player as well. And when
he gets when he gets to going, we know it's
hard for we know it's hard to stop him, but
him send back waiting until you know, second quarter for
him to scratch.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, that's gonna be hard.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
We get older light the bowl cars that lu car
crankd raddled up. Now, old way you got to You
got to pack that thing a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Joke.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, you gotta pump the brakes on that ship and
then you let it warm up. You'll just take off
with a with a older car. You let that thing,
Let that thing get gone, and now you good to go.
And so Lebron, it takes him a little bit water.
And I think the thing is that you see now
he's getting there a little bit earlier.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
He's getting those shots up.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
He's probably staying on the court a little longer because
he knows. Hey, Lebron used to go out there, get
him little ten to fifteen minute workout.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
He good to go. He probably out there twenty five
to thirty minutes now.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, yeah, it take a minute. Hey, you gotta gotta
warm the mold balls up. Man, get away famous. I'm
ready though, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
So the Lakers lose Minnesota go in take Game one
in convincing fashion one seventeen ninety five. The Lakers need
a bounce back game in the worst way. On Monday Night,

(23:13):
the Knicks beat the Pistons one twenty three to one
twelve Jalen Brunson thirty four points. Cameron Payne had eleven
of his fourteen points in the fourth quarter as the
Knicks done the Pistons with a twenty one old run
in the fourth called Anthony Towns twenty three points eleven
rebounds in his first game and first playoff game with
the Knicks, and og Ananoby also added twenty three for

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the number three seed.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
The Knicks.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Hey, I was like, man, yeah, they right there, I said, Detroit,
right there, man. I went upstairs, came back down. I'm like, hey,
you know what I'm saying. I thought of TV glitch,
so I cut the TV off and cut it back
over cause I say, no, damn waar hell you down
height and now all of a sudden, you up thirteen.

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I say, ain't no way, So I thought, but TV glitch,
So I cut the TV off, cut it back on
your start spreading on the cupold TV cut on TV. Spready, car.
I don't know what than that out here, man, but
they did it. They went on a twenty one old
run and broke the game open. This game had had
Kay Cunningham played better or you know, they got some points,

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laid the ball game, but Kade got to be better
than this. You can't have twenty one points on twenty
one shots, right, That's not that's not good enough.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
He's not good. He wasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
He wasn't that fish and fishing tonight. But you know
he dished the ball out.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well. I don't know how they lost their game, man.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
I'm just like you. I'm like, I'm looking at the game.
I saw, I turned my head. It was like, hold on,
but uh man, this is Detroit's scared team. They played
a great game man, up until the last quarter.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I don't know. They just kind of collapsed. I mean,
but like the last nine minutes, the last nine minutes
they were good.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
They started the point good, but from not from like that,
like a five minute stretch they did nothing. But when
you get O g gi you twenty three. Kat gave
you twenty three. Jalen Brunson gave you thirty four. Josh Hart,
who's the utility the Swiss Army knife. He's a spoon,
he's a fork, he's a knife. He's a pair of scissors.
He's a screwdriver. He's a monkey rinch. He can do

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it all. He gave you thirteen six or sis seven
rebounds and then you get Campaign who scored eleven points
in the fourth to go along with fourteen.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
That was really hard. Malik Beasley does what he does.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Came in, gave you twenty points on six to twelve
from the three point line. But they need some of
their big guns. They need They need Cave Cunningham to
be a little bit more efficient.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, and I think Kate will be better. He'll be
better than Games too.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
But I know de Trump and they still got kind
of gotta feel good about this even though they lost.
You know, like I said, they controlled the game man,
pretty much the entirety of the whole game up until
about the last eight nine minutes. They just kind of
had a collapse. But now like this Detroit team, they
played hard and scrappy. Oh man, they hope they're really

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scrappy ball club.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
JB.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Bigger Staff got him playing, He got him believing. They believe,
they believe they belong. I mean, they're not surprised that
they're here. They believe it. And they played. Like I said,
I agree with you, I think Cade will be more efficient.
Tobias Harris had one of his better playoff games. Tim
Hardaway Junior played really well. Thompson needs to be a
little bit better. Look, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, you

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got to be better than that. You gotta be better
than that.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
We're talking about Detroit and what they did, how they
played well. The Knicks won the game. He did game
and the reason they won the game towards the end.
We ain't talked about Jaylen Brunston yet. He had thirty
four and eight, and I'm gonna call him the conductor.
I'm calling the conductor because that the way he orchestrated
at the end of that game in crucial time and
made those plays. Who to say they don't play like

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that the rest of the series. What if Detroit don't
win no more goddamn games because of what jayen Brunt
was able to do? Hell goddamn called Anthony Towns out
there with twenty three, eleven and five OG with his
twenty three and this seven?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, who to say they don't catch.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Heat and that monmentum carries into the net game in
the game after that, despite you know, kay not having
the game, he should have scored two in one. Obviously
that's bad. He might come back and have you know
a better game than that game. But hell, Jaen ain't
going no where, called Anthony Town ain't going no where.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Brunson.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The thing that makes Brunson is that the big moments
he's at his absolute best shows up everything. Clutch time,
they're gonna put the ball in his hands and sometimes
they might go pick and roll with him and Cat,
but they normally let him operate and they trust him. Okay,
whatever you do, whatever, We'll live with whatever decision that
you make. And in clutch situations, he's wanted. I defy

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you to find five better players in the NBA currently
that's better than him in clutch situations the last five
minutes the game, within five he's sensational. Yeah, and he
will he and that was on display again. And one
he's great at drawing fire. He's great at drawing contact.
Joe getting to the fire line. He was eight or

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ten a night the night from the free throw line,
two or five from three thirty four big points.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
But like you said, it was the other O G.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Cat Josh Hart was sensational and campaign gave you eleven
in the fourth fourteen off the bench.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
It's gonna be tough.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's gonna be a look Detroit kicking themselves because they
know they supposed to have stole this game. But like
you said, O Joe, uh Cat and Bronson and Campaign,
that's like, nah, y'all ain't gonna get this one. N No,
it's Hey, it's the playoffs though. It's a fire line
between winning and lose and ope. Yeah, you can be

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feeling confident like you're gonna run through the series, yeah,
and then you getting a it can backfire the way
you'd be like, man, we gotta get a game, you
know what I mean? I think, like I said, I
think they feel good about it. Obviously, yep, New York
could go on, they could go on, they could sweep them.
But I like this matchup Detroit and the Knicks, man,
and I'm looking forward to you know, fireworks do I

(29:11):
just playoffs?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And this is not like Detroit.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
They gave up forty points in the fourth Yeah, forty,
I mean they mean think about it, they gave up
twenty seven, thirty, twenty six, and then you go forty.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
And JB probably saying, look, guys, we little cleaning. Hey,
we gave up forty. Let's build a little better of
the defensive being, Hey, we're right there. This is a team, Hey,
in their building. We know how MSGS gets the rocket.
Guys make a few shots, but we were right there.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Clean this up. I agree with you, Joe. I feel
if I'm Detroit, I feel good. I feel good.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Look, I want to win now. Don't get me wrong.
I'm like, hey, d we lost, but I feel good that. Hey,
nine minutes to go in the game, we had eight
point lead. It wasn't like we were down eight. We
had an eight point lead. So there's some things that
we can do that I feel comfortable that we can
do to get this win, get game, get a split
this and go back home for two. The Nuggets beat

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the Clippers in ot one to twelve one twelve regulation.
Westbrook hit a huge three at the end of regulation
make key several defensive plays. According to ESPN research, Clippers
gave Westbrook an average of separation of almost ten feet
when he was taking three pointers in Game one. That's

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the most separation he's gotten on three points shots at
a playoff game when taking at least five attempts since
twenty thirteen to fourteen. Russ finished with fifteen points on
five of seventeen shooting.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
You just have to live.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
He's a guy that you're gonna say, damn, come on on, Russ,
what are you doing? But the one thing you'll never
ever questioned about Russell Westbrook is his effort.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Effort. He gonna give you every freaking thing he got.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
He's gonna make some plays like to play that like
the Yokid triple double where he blows the smokes the layup.
Now the Nuggets got eighteen seconds to get it and
they don't even.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Get a shot off. Yeah, Russ, that's not like Russ.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Because Russ had a wide open three, he passed it up,
got caught between like that, What the hell I do
in the clock?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Run out there? Like damn Russ.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
But then he comes in, blocks the shots, challenges, gets twopers,
that gets a key steel, tousses the ball off to
James Harden.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Russell with one of this game.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, because he got a couple bmers, he got like
two offensive rebounds, Aaron Gordon got two key officsive rebounds,
and he hit that big three to put him up. Joe,
what'd you like about what you saw?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
How?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Because the Nuggets were down by as much as what
team fifteen. Yeah, Clippers out of the way back into
the ball game, and they ended up winning a very
close ball game.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Uh, the Clippers was controlling the game pretty much the entirety.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Uh, you know, I do think you know, Russ's energy
and effort is definitely it definitely helps the Nuggets. Man,
And I'm sure you know he enjoys this win, considering
this again as one of his former teams, you know
what I mean. So I'm sure he's happy about that.
But this is gonna be a long series as well.
I thought the Clippers was right there to really pull away.

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You look at Kawhi, he's been he was playing even
playing pretty good ball. James Harden was playing great ball,
Like they look good man, they did. I think James
hard to getting in foul trouble. I think Zubob's kind
of getting a little foul trouble that kind of took
James out of his game.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
But James was sensational.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Eleven of twenty two to four to nine from the three,
perfect from the free throw line, thirty two points, eleven assists,
six rebounds, Zu twenty one thirteen, Kawhi twenty two and six.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Kawhi really had it going early. He did.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
He and James they had it going early. He couldn't
miss you look good too the first quarter. Then I
think he end up scoring like only two points in
the second quarter. But Aaron Gordon got going ear late.
Yo kitch is yo kitch Yo kich is gonna be
yo kitch I don't look and they think nobody defends
him better than Zoo Box. And then you look up
and it's like, hold on, damn, the man had twenty nine,

(33:23):
twelve and nine, and that guy fit defends him the best. Well,
who I hate to see the guy that defends him
the worst. Boop played a good game too. Those Zoobo
had twenty one and thirteen.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Like that's what.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But see, if you play against Yoke, you got to
go at him on the defensive end.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Now you gotta make him work on both ends. And
the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
But you notice late in that ball game that that
fourth quarter he started challenging more stuff, whereas early in
the ball game he wasn't challenging. And you see Harden
laying the ball up, kawhi yah laying the ball up.
Guys were laying the ball up. Now all of a sudden, look, bro,
you almost seld footall, just go for just make them
go up over you don't give them no layup line.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, you know what you thought? What you thought about
watching the Nuggets? I mean the game good. The Nuggets
played really well.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Obviously, I look at hard right Harden where they control
the game most of the game outside of towards the end.
But hell, Harden had thirty two and eleven. But the
Clippers turned the ball over twenty damn times. Yeah, when
it came to curnse time, and then you got Russell
Bennings as intense as he always is, you know, as
far as playing defense and with Joker playing the waves

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playing when it came to crunch time. Because of the turnovers,
then the Nuggets was back in the game. They were
able to get back in the game because of the turnovers. Yeah, game,
I mean it was good. This is the one that's
gonna go to a seven game series, and I think
me based on what I'm watching and the amount of
dodge that I've gained to this point, the turnovers are

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going to be key on who wins this series.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Ask me how I know how you know? Because if
they and turned the ball over twenty times a night,
the Clippers win this game.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
But I think you got to give I think you,
like you said, the last time, we was talking about
what Detroit didn't do, Let's talk about what the Knicks
did do well in this situation. You talk about what
they did, what happened. They weren't out there by themselves now,
so somebody forced them into those turnovers. You see all
of a sudden, Russ playing pass legs. All of a sudden,
they started getting up into people all of a sudden.
It's not a it's not a layup line. They don't

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get Aaron Gordon. You gotta go ahead, Joe, I say
that altitude kick in You think you think that's real?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Man? Yeah? Yeah, it's tough, O Joe, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Why you think so? Why do you think fighters go
to Arizona? Why do you think they go to Big Bear?
Why do you think they why the US Olympic training
facility in Colorado spring? If it didn't make a difference.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know, it's funny. I always hear I always hear
it all the time. Obviously, I was able to play.
I was able to play in Denver twice on obviously, and.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
You lost both times. I did this. I don't remember
whether whether the wins are losses.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
But as far as as far as my winning my condition,
I'm not trying to be rude and I'm not trying
to be disrespectful. I'm just saying that it didn't affect
me on the field as far as breathing is concerned.
And obviously during the time like that, it was pressure
on me to be able to perform because you know,
I'm going to get twenty four.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah, want to get the Hall of Fame and then
cham Biley at the time. But I always, I always
hear to think about the.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
About you know, it being difficult to breathe, you know,
when playing and differ in the high altitude.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
But I'm just yeah, it's less hocks to you're in there.
I'm just curious what y'all thought. Ball travels farther.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's there's a reason why people love kicking, they love
putting right getting, they love hitting a baseball in course field,
the hairs center, altitude training.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, like I said, if you go look at
endurance athletes, they always train at altitude. They go to
flag Staff, they go to Colorado Springs, they're in New Mexico,
and so that's what a lot. And you know boxers,
they go to big big, Yeah, they go they go
to places where you know, mammoth and where you have
to like take you a little bit. And sometimes though

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you remember they came out they had those masks on.
Remember the breathing mask yet.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
You have on?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Remember those? Yeah, I remember be Smoke used to have
one of them. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
But uh you so what so is this a seven
game series joke? This is a seven game series? Yeah,
I think I think it'll be a seven game series.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Uh, I think.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
You know, obviously the Clippers, you know, they came to
Denver to get one. They probably feel good about this that.
I just think they ran out of gas in their
second half.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
But uh, you know, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
They're looking forward the game too. But you know, until
you went on the other team's home floor, aren't in
the series. Yeah, so yeah, just some this is probably
gonna go. It's probably gonna go seven. Uh Russ said
the dynamic roller with Zubab's break cutters. Guys, catch at.
My job is to be able to be low man
in five ways to excuse my language.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
F ish up.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
It's did a great job because you know, like I said,
Russe is still he still had that quickness. He's not
the finisher that he was was, He's not as athletic,
but he's still I mean, hey.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Still can't get it done. He's still explosive to and spurts.
You know, he can still he can still do it.
And like you said, oh, Joe, hold on, what do
you do? He had he had two steals.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Key still but even though he didn't steal the ball,
he forced some costly turnovers.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, you know what, I'm happy for Russ too, having
a game like he did today where him being intense
like he always is is a reason why they won
because just not not too long ago, you know, he
was one of the reasons why they lost based on
his decision making. So this was this was good for
him and give him the confidence he needs to go
into the rest of the series being aggressive like he

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always is and doing what's best for not only him
but his team as well.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
And you have Russell on your team at this point,
you just got to accept what comes along with Russ.
He's gonna make some plays and you were like, that
was unbelievable, son, That's how we win.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
And then he gonna have some plays like you like,
Lord have mercy. I showed, wish I showed I showed
it now to win the chapel this morning, because.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You gotta deal with it. You gotta deal. You gotta
take the good with the bad. You got to It's
really that. It's really Joe. It's really that simple, because
he's gonna make plays you like, only he could have
made that play. And then on the other side, you're
gonna say only he could have emptied up. Nobody else
could have emptied up, but he did, so you gotta take.

(39:36):
It's kind of like Luca. People say, man, I wish
Lucas stopped flopping. I wish Lucas started crying. I wish
Luca you got accepted. He's not gonna stop. He can't
stop part of him.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
He can't. He can't.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Every time if he doesn't make a shot, he gonna
look at the ref like he looked at me. You
know he you know, he ate a post for for
pregame so that you're they ain't gonna call no follow
yes up.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So you just Joe, you just live with it. And
that's that's where I have on that right there.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So Russ, you gotta live with it because he's gonna
make some spectacular plays, but he's gonna make some plays
that leave you scratching your head.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
But you know the good thing about it, though, the
good outweigh the bad. With rush, the good plays outweigh
the bad most time. The bad ones come at opportune
times when they shouldn't happen, and that might be the
only issue.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes, Yes, the Indiana Pacers blow out the Milwaukee bucks
Boy to score one seventeen to ninety eight man after
finishing with the third worst defensive rating in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
The Phoenix subs Priday. But no, that what we want?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Andy, what you gotta be here?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Uh? Victorian Prince got some cardio in Kyle Kuzma. He
was on his road bike too. He got cardio in.
Oh hey cardio. They doona hey toyon prints twenty minutes,
zero points, Kyle Kuzman twenty two minutes, zero But he
had to think what was so amazing about Kuzba Kouzma

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had zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks,
and two personal files.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Man, it's scratch.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Hey see this this this is what this is what
I wasn't able to see I didn't get to see
this one on. You know, I was at my track
me watching my baby run. Yeah, so this is the
one game I didn't get to see because when this
game was going on, this is exactly when you know,
my baby was running, running the four hundred and the
four by four.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Man, this is everything I expected, godly numbers from Greek free.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, just didn't get no help. Man, ain't getting no help.
No Indiana.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
They're gritty team as well, and they got a bunch
of guys who could score the basketball and do a
multitude of things on the court to affect the game.
And if you got two guys and you're starting lineup,
who giving you know us you got? Man, you ain't
got a chance to win it in the league like this.
But the last time I seen this many doing us
out that chrispy Kremes and Duncan Robinson, I mean, Doug
Dunkeit don nothing this man had think about it. He

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was all five from phil he was all two from
from the three point line, he was all two from
the free throw line. Zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals,
zero blocks, and zero points.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
So you only got like nine stats that you can
get to you get get something.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
On one end. Neither of the ten. The man had
a zero. I don't know, Joe, I don't know if
I've ever seen that in all my life. Now, Like
I said, I was in four h I grew up
on a farm. I went to the county fair and
I ain't never seen no issue like this.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I can't Chad. I don't think y'all understand this.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
This man was zero five from phiel, all two from
the three point line, all two from the free throw line.
He had zero assists, zero rebounds, zero steals, zero blocks.
Z row boys, how I mean. Yanni is like, hey, all,

(43:09):
I tell you what. This is what I would need
you all to do. Kyle Kuzman give me Eightitorian Prince
give me eight. I do the rest until Dame gets back.
In game three, They're like, no, no, no, no, no no,
we gonna leave you out there by yourself. I mean,
they got they got y on this south side. They
got y'all. Then close the door on Yanni and they'll

(43:32):
beat the hell out of Yanni's and they just closed
the door.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
That main't help it, but nothing does.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Kyle Kuzman and Prince had the green light to shoot
when they want to even if even if you miss
it like that, do they have the green light? You
know how shoot a shoot even you're missing, you keep
on shooting. At some point it's gonna fall. Are they
allowed to do that?

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
The playoffs and it's the playoffs up if you got
green putting all the pressure on the rim and you
like uh uh.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Troy and Prince was the top three point shooter this year.
It wasn't like he was no slous He probably was
top five and three point shooting this year.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
So I think the main thing is you don't have
Dame out there, another guy who can put pressure and
get his own make plays for others around him. So
now everybody's watching Greek free. He probably the only one
really after who can go out there and get the bucket.
So that's why that's the way they look.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Shoot Kyle, Kyle.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
As soon as I asked you, first thing you said
it was no. So Kyle, he doesn't have the green
light to shoot at will being at something, Why.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
The hell I'm gonn get in the green light? He
gotta learning for me. He he got real drivers, like
let him drive for.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
If they ain't playing, you got to get them points
from somewhere. Them points that Dan would have, they got
to come from somebody. Yo, the man got Cardio. The
man is on the station, everybody. No, that's what I'm saying.
He was oh for five, he was over in nine
of the categories, right, I'm yes. Maybe he doesn't have
the green light to continue to shoot at will, even
though at some point you got to make them.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
That's reserved for Steph Curry, that's reserved for a dame,
that's reserved for Luca. You can't give no guy, no
Kyle Kuzman, no green light to shoot it whatever you
want to an alf Okay, all right, and you got
to look at after Betch you got green gave you fifteen,
Kevin Porter Jr. Gave you twelve, Gad Trent Junior gave
you fourteen. But you got two guys in your starter.

(45:25):
Think about it. Of your five starters, y'all has had
thirty six. The other three had fourteen, So they got
fifty points from their starters.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah, you can't. You're not winning. Hold on that one.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
So I was alongside of the game like that, all right,
hold on, Joe, So listen, I'm not a coach, So
as a coach, do you make the adjustments and put
the players in that scored fourteen to fifteen?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
And no you got okay, no, all right, no, you
said you gotta be better. But look, oht y'all cool.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Look there have been tied that sometimes that you're like
man Kuzma, he's figuring it out. Yeah, And then there
are other times if I got glasses on I'm a coach,
I'll put my glass down and said, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I'm rubb him with temples because he makes you scratch
your head. Well, if you know you got played like that,
uh that don't have the confidence? You get him going early?

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You run plays for him on purpose, allow him to
get an easy bucket. You get an easy bucket to
get you. It gets your rhythm. Hell, when it comes
to football, what we do You drop a ball? What's
the first thing to cod do? Find something easy for
you to get the ball back in your hands to
be your confidence back up.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That's what they do to you. The third receiver ain't
gonna keep getting balls thrown at his ass. He drop up. Okay,
I said, you only get you got that's the prop.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's the point. You only gonna get so many opportunities
before they put somebody.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Else ass in there.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Okay, but I'm only you keep getting thrown to you
if you drop a few. No, that's not reserve for
anybody else. I'm just saying that. I'm only saying it because, Okay,
Dame Dollar's not playing. If Dame Dollars is not playing,
now whoever else is in there, they got to replace
the production in some way. They might not be able
to score as much as Dame Dollars is, but we

(47:15):
got to find ways to get those individuals who don't
score like that and put it in position to get
them points in some kind of way.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Joe, can you explain the old Joe? They put him
in a position he later that he put the goose eggs.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Hey and Indiana, they taking a challenge, man.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
They got guys ways scared to guard you on us,
you know, the turn of the Pascal Siathoms. So it's
not like they just totally double team in them and
they making them, you know, they're making him score like
yeah on this shot shot fourteen eighty three night, like
you know, they're making him go get it.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
And I got to live with that. And he was
eight or fifteen from the free throw line.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Okay, I'll live with that because guess what what I'm
not gonna allow him to do because if you gonna
look at its like his last ten games.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
He had like six or seven triple doubles.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
So if he's scoring thirty, he's given you thirteen forteen rebounds,
and he's making it easy for others to score. So now, hell, nah,
you go ahead, score, don't even way, Hey how many
you want?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
You want thirty six, you want forty? Go ahead? Right,
I guarantee you if other guys ain't gonna hurt us,
See that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, but and that's why you see Kyle Kuzm only
have five shot attempts in twenty one minutes, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Like they not leaving him giving him no comfortable looks.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Joannis, if you're gonna beat us, then you're gonna have
to score fifty, my boy, just to keep you y'll
listening to game.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, and I give you that.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And see when you play the Yo, when you play
the Nuggets, Okay, you're gonna let Yo get get his
thirty five and you're gonna let him have seventeen as sis?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Is that what you really? That's what you're trying to do. No,
get whatever you want, eat as much as you won't.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
But I'm gonna let none of the other morefosy right,
they gonna start and you see zero zero nine five.
Because think about it, your starters, your bench players played
more than your starters. Torrian Prince had played twenty minutes,
Kyle Kuzma played twenty two minutes, Lopez played twenty one minutes,

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and Robins played nineteen, Bobby Porter's played twenty five. Dead
Trent Junior played twenty seven, Kevin Porter Junior play played
twenty nine, Green played twenty seven. So that tells you, Yeah,
those guys wasn't getting it done. Hey, docs today going
in there, I think on that, well, hey, when you

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look at it, Kevin Porter Jr. And Gary Trent they
can kind of go off the bounce a little bit
and create you know, yas you know, but for others
as well. That's why when you got Prince in there
and he only got one shot a chip in twenty minutes,
that's because we're not leaving you. You know, We're gonna
play you on this man, the man straight up. We
ain't giving y'all no death shots out of that, and
we're gonna make y'all work for everything. Y'all get it, yes,

(50:04):
and look, and that's what you have to do. Say, hey, guys,
I feel bad for your mouths or feel bad for
you see, because y'all is gonna give you that.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
He gonna give you that work.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Joe is like, hey, we stopping the double and then
and let everybody no, no, no, no, heyl whoever got
on you today, Bro, he gonna hang about one fifty
one seventy five on you. But we ain't gona let
nobody else get nothing. Y'alla take the challenge. Y'alla step up,
step up, and take the challenge. That's gonna help us
as a team.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Man. It happens all the.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Time, right because I don't want the mother guy because
y'all is gonna get his.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Because he go.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
If there's a crack, he's gonna slide his slender ass
through it and either he gonna dunk it, lay it up,
or you're gonna file it. Because think about it. He
had twenty three shot attempts. He had fifteen free throw
a temps. Hey think about that now, twenty three shot
at temps. Fifteen free throw temps.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
He was working, They making them work right.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
But that's that, you know, that's also exposing everybody else's weakness.
I can't create on my own, I can't put the
put the ball on the floor, increase space and get
my shots off. That's that's that's a weakness well as.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
A team, as a team, as a team old Choe's
that's the makeup of a team. Like everybody ain't gonna
be able to go off the bounce and be able
to create and get their own they gonna be great.
They gonna be great off ball defender or they gonna
be great off ball players. Meeting three and D guys,
guys who got great energy on defense, who can calls,
have it and the knockdown the three you know offense.

(51:40):
So I think that's kind of the makeup of this team.
It's made up of Giannis and Dame to be the creators,
the spas you know, and these other guys gotta chip
in and give us what you give us, what you
got and yeah, because that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Look if that's look, that's what Dori. He's not. He's
not a guy. They take your joke.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Those the guys that you got three guys that can
take you off the grounds and when help come, they
kick you make shots.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
You can't everybody can't be I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
He can take you up to rummy, he can take
you off the drummy, he can take you out to
Now you need a certain guy that need to be
able to catch and shoot. Everybody has a roll. Now
you would like to think that when it's time for
them to play their role to the utmost, they do it.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Yeah, it hit they shots.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yes, Yannis is gonna give you what he's gonna give you. Look,
I don't roll. Y'all is down. Y'all is gonna have
a bout thirty, probably gonna have thirteen rebounds, probably gonna
have five or cis he gonna cover every night. So
that's what I Hey, I'm appills to that. Oh I
have done wrote that down in my book. It's kind
of like at the end of the day, you wrote
down everything that you was gonna did, you what you

(52:45):
was gonna do. Well, I can write down with y'all
is gonna give me before the game even start. He's
gonna thirteen six, probably gonna shoot probably sixty percent some
of mid fifty to sixty percent. Okay, that's Yannis, what
about to your prince coach? All right, don't be cracking
those jokes. Now, I don't know what the hell he

(53:07):
gonna kill us.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I don't. I saw I was ready for Cayle Cooling
to go. I said I had seen enough when he
was with the Lakers. Nah, I just tried to move on.
He only he only gonna be He's only gonna be
so good. He's gonna redeem yourself. He can't get he
can only go up from here. Yeah, hena, have you

(53:30):
never have two games back to back like this, I'll
show hope not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, hold on, let me see zeros zero for five
from the field, zero from two from the three, o
for two from the free throw line, zero rebounds, zero assists,
zero steals, zero blocked, zero points. Now it's been really bad.
If he'd had zero files. So you was out there

(54:04):
for twenty two minutes and you didn't trip nobody, Joe,
he didn't trip anybody. I mean, you didn't run through
those screens. You ain't run through those screens. You ain't
do nothing. You have zero coast the board. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that that'd been a proce hard man.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
That's hey, that's a tough stat line.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
And yes, hopefully he'll use that for fueler though hopefully
he's using for fuel and come back from Game two
and give and give. You gotta give y'all some help, man,
I mean, I mean, you know what he gonna do.
He just needed a little help, man. Yeah, that yo
had a O O cho double. You know you had

(54:44):
a triple double or triple single? Hey do was see
nobody have eight zeros?

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, Now if you got that, if you got money
with eight zeros, boy, you got the paper?

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah, Low, you don't want to you know, you don't
want to have had that on the basketball cook.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
After finishing with the third worst defensive rating of the
NBA this season, the Phoenix Suns priority this offseason is
to get tougher on the other end of the court.
On the latest episode on YouTube show NBA Inside of,
Chris Haynes explained the Suns intend to move away from
trying to build around a couple of stars and having
more defensive minded and tough players that allow them.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
To be more physical. Joe, is this the right move?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Because I believe the only guy that's untouchable is Devin Booker.
Matt Ishbiel seems to have made it very clear. Devin Booker,
what he's done in this community, what he's meant for
this team, what he's meant for this city, He's off limits.
Everybody else, step right up. Depend on what you offer,
he can say that now, But depend on what you

(55:49):
depend on what you offer. I mean, I mean, man,
they got two guys who were just on the USA
Olympic team and they didn't even get in the playing
in game like this is. You know that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Bro. Uh So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Uh, you know, I'm a definite Booker fan, man, but
you never know what these owners want to stay, you know,
first get in positioned. Man.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
A lot of them, Uh, this is just this is
just for fun for them, you know what I mean?
So yeah, you know they make moves that you know,
normally he's in person, wouldn't do. Sometimes. I've been on
the end of that. I've been on another end of that.
I know what it's like. But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I think, Well, if you get rid of everybody, who
are the fans gonna rally behind, I think you keep
Booker just out of that. Now. I don't me personally,
I don't think I don't think, but they'll trade book
That's just me personally. You believe that that's possible. Contridic
But what are you gonna get? Maybe you get some

(56:52):
draft picks on some of these young cats coming down
hold on. But that's the but I'm saying, you want
to hold You want to start your whole team with draft.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Fens well big if you want. He mentioned he want
you want better defense, he wants physicality. Right, you get
rid of your scores.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Bradley Beal.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
You know what he agrees, He says, you know what,
I have a no trade clause. But I'm gonna let
y'all send me somewhere where I actually want to go.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
You move on from KD.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
So you go defensive wise, you go physicality, You keep
Devin Booker, Well, where the hell is.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
The scoring coming from? Where are scoring coming from? Now?
I'm listening, he I'm listening us talk.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
We just talked about the bucks and you got two
people where you got one person you got damn out,
Damns Dame is out. You got the only person putting
up points that you can rely on to put the
ball in the goddamn basket.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
And Yannis.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
But now we talk about getting getting getting rid of
two prolific scores. Actually yeah, two and keeping one. And
you want to go physicality, so that that just put
that just deplete.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Your team and puts you in the hole.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
You got everybody playing defense, but you ain't got nobody
to score. That don't make no sense.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
How many groping like that?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Hey, we can only go up. Man, we we didn't
make the play in Ojo. We I mean, we gotta
do something. Man, we're in the wild, wild wins, right.
It's tough over there, man, it's tough. They gave up
so much. They gave up so much to get KD.
They gave up so much. They give up draft picks.

(58:21):
They gave up one of the better perimeter defenders and
Michael Bridges. They gave up Cam Johnson, the guy that
can knock that can knock down shots. Okay, you said, okay,
big three, big three, big three, But and now you
lose DeAndre eight.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Now DeAndre ad.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Wasn't the greatest defensive center, but he was a seven
foot rim presence.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Now you don't have that.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
You have Nurkic. Nurkic is a big body. He can rebound,
but that's that's about it. Slow footed uh no, rid
of for no real threat on the offensive end. You
had Alex Lann for a while. Not he with the
Lakers sitting no taking up space. So I'm when you
when you look at the Phoenix sun, I mean I

(59:02):
want some defense. He's probably gonna want to go. They
got a mean look at this point, Brooklyn accommodated Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
I want to go to Phoenix play with Chris Paul
CP three.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Well that's what they need. They need a point guard.
Let's start with that first and foremost. They need somebody
to initiate the offense. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take
the ball out of Devin Booker hands and put him
at the two. Devin Booker is best at the two,
not running the offense at the two. Let's start with that. Secondly, Yeah,
you got guys that can put the ball in the basket,

(59:37):
but you can't go to the park called with the
UZI and the motor missing.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
So so now everything is a layoff line. Everybody getting
whatever they get whatever they want against Phoenix. Whatever layup
they get, layup lined, they get shoot around threes.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
You not winning, You're not waiting like that.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah, they try to play, uh, Devin Booker like that
the Clippers do. James Harden, yes, appreciate the offense, can
score away wheel, a willing passer can pass, and it
just hadn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Worked out for. It just hadn't worked out for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
But if you remember, James was always that because when
he came in with the Shock Troops at OKC, the
ball was in his hands. So he's always been that.
So now he goes to Houston and now he's not
coming off the bench. You remember those first couple of
games that he had with Houston, they's like, what the hell?
Like thirty eight, like thirty five. James Harden has always

(01:00:34):
had the ball in his hands. Now, granted Russ came
in and take some of that, and obviously when you
play with KD. But when he went the Houston and
perfected that craft, yeah, yeah, so now he can play
like that. Booker has never ever had to play like that.
So you're asking a guy to do something that he's

(01:00:55):
really never done. It's nothing for James Hard to do
that because guess what everywhere James Hard being since he
left Okay, See, he's had the ball in his hand,
had the ball in his hand, at Brooklyn, even with
Kyrie and KD. James had the ball. He goes to
Philly with Ben Simmons at what Ben was gone when
he got there, and you had Joel Embiid and you

(01:01:17):
had Tyree's Maxi.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
He had the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
He goes to the Clippers, Paul George Kawhi, He's got
the ball. So you what a Harden does he has
the ball. You're asking Booker to do something that he
hasn't done. Yeah, James is a great iso play, has
a great, great feel for the game, and he understands
when the past when and when the bill aggression. And

(01:01:43):
he's been greater at picking his spots. Yeah, I mean,
it's two totally different players. He's a better isolation player
than Devin Booker.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Plus his IQ is very high as well, which is
why he said, rack up these double doubles the way
he does. He's led the league and assists twice, so
clear he can facilitate office. Clearly, he understands he's an
i Q basketball player. Look, you're not leading the Look
you're not gonna you're not leading the league and assists. Now,
granted it happened, it happened hopefully the guy on the

(01:02:12):
other end don't mounk it up. But he understands. He's
tremendous and him at Zubos, he's turned Zubos into one
hundred million dollar million, Yes, sir, because him is Zoo
Box in the pick and roll, he gonna drop, he
gonna leave it for him. I gonna power it home. Yeah,
he's tremendous. He perfected that step back three James Harden

(01:02:35):
because he was the one that was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Travel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Hey, no, Joe. When I first saw him do it,
I said no, no, no, no, no, no no no
no no that that that that that Ninja travel. Hey, hey,
you know I had a little step with Houston. I
played with James man on that year they won won
like uh it was like twenty two games and roll
or something like that. Yeah, about thirty six a game. Yes,

(01:03:04):
I came in on the on the wind streak. They
had probably already won like eleven twelve in a row.
But man, his preparation for the game is different. He
really says that he in the gym, he works on
them shots. Yeah, them with the dark shots, which is
why he's so tough to guard. He's so crafty in
the pick and roll because he can beat you in
every way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
If you go under, he's gonna shoot the three. If
you go over, he's gonna keep you in jail back there,
keep you in that little huffer buck.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I ain't got the floaters, the dish outs, the lives,
the zoop bob and that's hard to stop.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Look. Yeah, you know he got a crew with him.
Who you know, those guys made some shots tonight. That's
why I was. I was shocked. They lost the way
they control their game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I think Kawhi cooled off a little bit in the
second half because the first quarter he had it going. Yeah,
James had it going. I think James getting in foul
trouble that hurt them more than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah. Yeah, that that really that really like because they
took it by of his rhythm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
But James love. I mean, you can't say enough good
things about James Harden. He first of all, he's a
member of All seventy fifth to seventy fifth at a
vers routine that is right there. He's an MVP, he's
an All NBA selection, and he had the highest scoring,
highest scoring month since you know, since probably seventy He

(01:04:22):
averaged forty three in a month. Yeah, which was a
tick above what Kobe had. Remember Kobe average like thirty five.
When he had that eighty one, he had like four
or five sixty point games. But James Harden is a
great scorer of basketball. But he's an IQ player. Normally, guys,
it's hard to find a guy he and Luca like

(01:04:42):
that that can score the basketball like that that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
They can get you sixty, but they can get you
fifteen assists.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
There ain't been very many guys in the history of
the game that could score sixty and get you fifteen assists.
James Harden and Luca could do that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, he can infect the game in that way. Yeah,
that's he's a tough guard. Man, He's a tough guard. You,
James Jones, what you're doing? How do you how do
you improve the nick I'm excuse me, the Suns? How
do you get them better? Because just a couple of
years ago they were in the playoffs, there were you know,
they were in NBA Finals. They had a two zero
lead on Milwaukee. They end up losing that, they make

(01:05:19):
another run. How what what are you doing? What are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Man? First, hope he keep his job Okay, there's a
lot of people, but hey, man, you know I already
got rid of the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
They got rid of what three of the coaches, all
of them coaches still make They fired Mighty Williams after
four years, They fired Bogel after not ten months, They
fired Bud Bunhoza after eleven months. So you're about to
have your fourth coach in fourth in four years. So
you got eighty million dollars. You got eighty million dollars
in coaches that's not even working.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
And there's no players that's gonna walk through that room
and save your job. Though, players who are you going
to get when you got some of the best already?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
But here, how did to go get? That's why Joe
Starry Young, you got you starting over.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
You try to get lucky and get if you try
to get some of these top draft picks this year,
and I don't know how you can do it, but
there's some talent in this draft, man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
And hey, okay, Joe, you said talent in the draft.
Can you name one college player that can come in
that gonna change the franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
That can change I ain't saying when I say change.
When you say change, the franchise. I ain't saying it's
a it's a it's a rookie who can come in
and give them the sixty. Ain't no Lebron James, ain't
no Kevin Durants in this draft. But you want to
you want excitement. You know you won't promise you won't vote,
So you get some young females who can come in
and keep these Phoenix fans excited enough to what They're

(01:06:42):
still in tune with the Suns man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Uh, you know they they love their sons down there. Yeah. Yeah,