Ray J Part 2

In the second part of Ray J's episode on Club Shay Shay, he delves further into his life and career, sharing a mix of personal anecdotes and professional insights. Ray J starts by discussing his attempts to replace Omarion in B2K and his admiration for Usher. He reflects on how he should have listened more to Pharrell and expresses a desire to work with him again in the future. When posed with the famous hypothetical question, Ray J opts for a business lunch with Jay-Z over $500K.

He talks about the incredible success of Raycon, earning $80M a year for four years, and his involvement in TV networks, including a show featuring BlueFace and Chrisean Rock on his broadcast network. Ray J opens up about his relationship with 50 Cent and shares his views on why celebrities often date the same people.Ray J candidly discusses his complex personal relationships, including stealing his ex, Princess, from Floyd Mayweather and the ensuing conflict. He talks about his preference for older women and how one helped cleanse him during his teenage years. He also touches on his tumultuous marriage with Princess, expressing his intent to never date again but only "slay," and explains the recurring issues between them.

Ray J recounts his initial meeting with Kim Kardashian when she was Brandy's closet designer, their subsequent relationship, and the infamous tape. He acknowledges the tape's profitability but also reflects on the embarrassment it caused, especially now that he has children. He discusses the success of the Kardashians and speculates on how different the world might be if the tape had never surfaced.

His relationship with Kanye West comes up, highlighting a unique gift from Kanye—a Balenciaga straight jacket. Ray J mentions he no longer has anyone he wants to fight in a celebrity boxing match but is open to the idea of doing OnlyFans. He shares memories of attending parties at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion at just 16 years old.

Finally, Ray J speaks on the legal troubles faced by his friends R. Kelly and Diddy, expressing the personal pain he felt as they went down. Join Shannon Sharpe and Ray J for an episode brimming with revelations, humor, and the candid truth behind Ray J's headline-making life.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway.
Is it true that you try to replace A marian
and B two K?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I knew it was gonna get good. I didn't try
to do it. Rasbee approached me with that when they
was at Cemex, right, and so I'm like, well, what
we're doing? All this one was activated? We you know,
so I can't replace oh Marion, like you know, we
started doing dance rehearsals and shit, I'm like, bro, like

(00:35):
I can't do this shit. It was like, yeah, I
might look it, bro, where o marian at you know
what I'm saying. But we tried to approach it, but
they didn't understand it because I'm like, first things first,
it can't be be too k no more. They gotta
be ray.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Two k ah, how do you want to change the whole.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thing speciess And so that's yeah, they was we were
about to have a fight because they was mad. I'm like, bro,
Ray two K R two K is the the as
far as I can go with trying to like make
some adjustments and like compromise. R two K is all

(01:15):
I could do.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
How you That's like Johnny Gill coming in and saying
we can't change. We've got to change new addition.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
You gotta be J edition because here's the thing. R
two K mean now we real it's right with the
K on it we real too, nick like we real right.
B two K was still like like boy boys to men.

(01:41):
We've grown ass men. Let's keep it real and let's
get two k apiece every hour. You feel me, two
thousand apiece every hour every day. Let's keep it real,
so it's real two thousand dollars a day. That's why
I came up with R R two K.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
That was I think they're looking at you came up
with RAY two K.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I had the papers. I had me in the front.
They was in the back, you know what I'm saying,
and so like I was way up there too, you
talking about here and here right. I needed my space
because I don't know how to dance like that. So
they was dancing, So they're gonna be dancing while you
be up front singing with the pyros and shit on.

(02:24):
It was a disaster. They hated it and kicked me
off the group before I got in it. Yeah, they
kicked me off the group. Shout out to J Bug
and Fizz and Rasby for not allowing me to come
in and yeah, fuck up. They group and hopefully they
do positive things again. Another man festation for me is
for B two K to come back and have a
great run. I think B two K shall open up

(02:46):
for Brandy and Monica on the tour. So you got
B two K opening up, then you got Monica coming
after B two K, and then you got Brandy headlining. Right,
are we good hold of B two K, which they
don't never open up for nobody be two K, But
in this situation, I think it's good for business be

(03:06):
two K, Monica comes after, or if you want to
throw somebody in between that, like like RSVP, well no, no, no,
we would okay, we would open up then BE two K,
then Monica, then Brandy, then Monica and Brandy together then
Pyros and explosion.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Is it possible that they could, like, okay, say we do,
say Monica and Brandy do a fifty fifty city tour.
Could it be like Monica opened up twenty five times,
I mean go first, and then twenty five times Brandy
go first, tause you know it's not gonna happen. Monica's
not gonnagree to that you know that.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Right, Okay, okay, all right, no no, no, all right, okay, okay, yeah,
twenty five and twenty five, Yeah, I thank you. Yeah, no, no, no,
I do think so.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And are you putting this on? Is this your project?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I would do. I would love for it to be.
But if they do, and you you're a witness me
and you right now, I've been I've been trying to
work this out for a long time. I've been taking
a lot of slack. Monica been going in. I've been
apologizing because I'm just a fan, saying shit out. I'm
just making it up Monica, like because I'm a fan.
So yeah, y'all going on tour. You know what I'm saying,

(04:28):
Like that's what I felt. And so don't be mad
at me, because like I want it to happen if
it does. Now from if their tour happens, do you
think that they not owe me? But where do I
fit in if this tour actually happens? Like from here?
Where do you think that I? Like? Where should I be?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean, you had a nice idea, but oh you
trying to get some.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Paid No no, no, no, no, no no, no, We're just
because I'm with Brandy anyway, So I'm just hanging out. Yeah,
and me just hanging out. I'll find a way get
it back there somehow. I'll do get it back down
the street before the show start. But but my thing is,
where do you see me in that if this actually
happens with me being like the only person like publicly

(05:13):
pushing this and making it known so the fans could
like reach out to them, just open like introducing them
at least. Yeah, yeah, they let you do that.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's what's maybe maybe you introduced Monica.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean, no, Brandy, I would love for just to
have before they come on a Tronics commercial like yo,
the shows that I got on Tronics. Then it goes
in there's like Tronics network like t R O N
i X network, dot com. And then it goes sure boom,
and then they come and then I say, that's I'm

(05:47):
good with that. I'm that's it. I'm fine with that.
No money, just that big one. And then like Tronics
on like the you know, the coats of what they
wearing like like a patch all right, something like that.
But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I get.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
What you're saying. I mean, I would like to see
him on Tour two.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But I'm not thinking I'm not. I don't. They don't
own me nothing. No, I was just talking between. I
was like, well, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
When you were a kid, Okay, R and B is
your thing? How close?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Or maybe it wasn't close at all, but you saw
what Usher was doing, y'all around the same agent.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I love Usher. Usher's older ushers in the branding world,
which he wasn't in one class. I think he was.
I was in seventh grade, which on that I hated
seventh grade kids stay in school. I think he would
be in like the tenth or ninth or tenth. How
do I feel?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, did you did you try to model? Did you
see the success that he was having? It's like, okay,
maybe I modeled my game because now you know explort
you like, I want to model my game after this
guy because you know, maybe your vocals are like his,
or you're just trying trying to This is my lands laying.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I've had nightmares because Pharrell carved out myself and Pharrell
what I would say for real just genuously, which is
not a word, but I like it genuously like genuine
like genuously trademarkers right, Pharrell had carved out this ray J,

(07:25):
a sound that he was working on out the ghetto,
was the leadoff when I didn't listen as this as
Pharrell progressing, then he dropped the records with usher, don't look,
don't dunk, don't okay, And then I was just in
the baptub, and then I was in the shower, and
then I was on the on the gym, and then

(07:45):
I was like running around and I was just like
lost because we had it, you know what I'm saying,
And so watching that it was it was tough because
for Rell saw the vision for us too at the time,
and he saw it for me, So it wasn't about
us at the time. It was just about me and

(08:07):
the mistakes that I made and the mistake I made
with for Real at the time, and maybe for Real
might see this just honestly, like me being honest and
this like at this level and and like this honest
about it. I don't even think he knew that I
knew the like how big I didn't listen and how
bad it was for me, And so I think hearing this,

(08:31):
but I know the nigga busy doing we baton and shit.
But you know what I'm saying, we might be able
to get back in the lab, homie, bring a bunch
of new bags and ship and all the shit. You
know what I'm saying, Like all that ship. We could
do songs and shit and go over designs. Maybe, man,
But I didn't. I wasn't. It wasn't us. It was

(08:53):
just that I saw, like Forrell, saw us going back
and forth in that moment, and and and again. I
take full responsibility for not listening. And that's what every
artist should do. You can't blame I would never believe
somebody else could never fuck up for me. I would
be so mad. I definitely fucked up myself. And as

(09:16):
long as you take that responsibility and don't try to
blame people for your unsuccessful career, like stop doing that.
Like you made the decision on whatever it was, Take
it like a g make some adjustments, and if you
don't ever get back on, find another hustle to get
you a million, and stop crying about it. I was

(09:38):
talking to myself back in the day.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Is it true that you sold your Donald Sterling's apartments
after those racists comment.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
You guys don't know that it's impossible. You guys don't
know that. You know that, I know what. You don't
know that.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Look, my team, we know every we we do all work.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Can I call you yes? Okay because I know that?
Is that a nickname? That that? And then club was
just kind of like we're at clubs.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it started in Denver. You remember the movie Life
when they're in prison, they're talking about the Boom.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Boom Room Raised.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yes, the Boomboo Club was a knockoff of the Boom
Boom Room.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
We're in training camp.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
We played music, roll dice, played spades, video games, we gambled,
drank beer, smoking cigarettes in there too. But yeah, so
that's how that's how club start.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
So it was it was the Boomomom that's that's dope.
So there was an actual club, a club, like a
private club membership. One, wow, that's dope. Maybe we do
a raised Boo Room club. We do the dice games
on on the Neutronics network where they're not winning money,
like but you win the last like you you play
the dice up until the final one, then you win,
and it's like a competition dice all the all the

(11:25):
hood games like Carams Member Carams, Get Out of here
cams the board game where it's just a board and
it's it's like checkers, but you're playing like pool.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Oh yeah, no you talked about but I've never real
Did you say the apartment.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I got rid of? Huh? I did?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Now you wish you kept them?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So what so you were so offended by the comments
that you like, I got to get up.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Off It's bigger than that. It's bigger than that. I
want to I think it's Oh, I think it's actually
okay to talk about it. Yo, Donut Ross, anybody from
the T mayor Hello Clark, tell Rise, Carl ros Hit,

(12:23):
David wintrob and see if it's okay to talk about
the Donald Sterling issue now and give me a thumbs
up for a thumbs down.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Okay, we'll come back to that.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I mean this is this is this is a big one.
It's probably the biggest one. Yeah, get you to ask
me that as as like, do you do you have
the other side of it or no?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I want to get your.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Sign, but do you have the big side?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
No? I ain't got your big side.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's crazy. Okay, I want to I want to pause,
but I want to give it. Okay, do you want
to come back to Oh, yeah, for sure, We're gonna
come back to it. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
You also made headlines whenas like take a business made
of lunch with jay Z or five hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
You said take the five hundred.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Thousand, Jay No, no, say take business.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Jay Z said take the five hood the K.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
But jay Z told the world to take the fly
on o K. He wouldn't have told me to take
the fine K because I have so much more to
offer and I and I think sitting with jay Z
and anybody of that caliber that that really have no idea,
like what we're doing in our place in this industry
outside of the music and entertainment, Like what we have

(13:41):
to offer is massive, and whether it's finances, whether it's
opportunities and relationships, there's nobody that can match what we
can bring that is so unfamiliar to the other side
because nobody's ever made money with us, nobody's ever met
my partners that are making money at this level. So
we bring more to the table in that meeting, just

(14:03):
with the underestimation of what we can do and what
we've been doing, would just bring like super super big,
big like collaborations and big partnerships and now even us
just to invest in certain things that might need a
little more capital. Like you would love to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
The average person is not going to have a team
that's looking at the entrepreneurial side of it like you
would come with your team. So the average person say
give me the five hundred k and I'm gonna do
what I need to get done. Yeah, to make that grow,
because unless you have a team like what you have,
or say myself, most people won't take that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Files on the band, I would take five million instead
of meaning with Jay because I can invest the five more.
I can do nothing with five hundred k at this moment,
but I can do more with having a great relationship
with Jay Z.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Right. Okay, you've been in rooms with a lot of
people that have an enormous.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Mind dumb down. Okay, Okay, I'll tell you off Leine.
It's a shocker. It's a it's a big one. I'm
like Ray Donovan, I'm the ghetto version. Yeah, and I'm
a fucking great crisis manager. Yes, I specialize the crisis management.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
What what have you learned from being in rooms and
meetings and around people would hide net work.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's funny you say that, because all of the people
that I know with a lot of money don't do
business with anybody that I might look up to in
the industry. So I look at it in a very
good way because it really fucking doesn't matter. Most of

(15:52):
the people with a lot of money, it's not going
to give you anything. Right, if there's a hedge fund
or a business that are that is in the investment
business of companies or whatever you need, that's one thing.
But all my billionaire friends, they're super super super like yeah,

(16:13):
hell yeah. So you take their relationships and you learn
from what they've done, and you can utilize them and
what you are doing. Maybe if you're going to invest something,
they can help you from their expertise. But yeah, it's
just interesting how there's lanes and lanes of all of
these rich people and you can have your world and

(16:36):
then there's this entertainment world that I'm not in at all.
But the world that I have could really help move
things through if need be, If I could just take
a couple of meetings with the right people. I'm not
yearning to I don't care, but whenever it does happen,
I would love to show them what we can offer.

(16:58):
You know what I'm saying, what do.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
You the accomplishing with your new TV network?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
And it was reported that you got a loan and
you messed up over three million dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Oh, I didn't get along. I've never got a loan
from from anything. And I'm happy you said that about
the about Shaq because before I remember Shack investing in Saxeicana,
I've been taken any capital from anybody anywhere.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
So everything is so it's like you one boots.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Trapped at the highest level. Even with Raycon, we made
eighty million a year for four years straight. We made
forty before that. Eight before that we and just in
strategic and performance marketing it Q one, we spent three
or four million a month. Q four we're at fifteen
million a month November December. This is Raycon sold over

(17:52):
three millionayear buds. And now you know you take that capital.
You you you know you wish all your partners well
because because you love them, and now that they're going
into like home products and I'm going more into like
dramatic television, it's good for for us to not part
ways but to share, meaning let me get mine. You

(18:16):
guys can have yours. I'm here, you're there. If you
want to do all of these things, my ideas won't clash.
And if I want to do all of these things,
your ideas won't clash. So we all went together, right,
That's the most important thing. But yeah, I blew three
million of my own money. I blew seven million. I'm
not seven now. I'm not happy about it. I accidentally

(18:40):
just blew a million five on accident. I didn't know
I did that.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
How you acting blow a million five? You got that
gotta bread y J.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
You've been you know, you've been seeing you know you Yeah,
but they.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Menion five, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I just but I just but I literally just saw
all my shares back to my partners at Raycon and
it's been a great experience. That equity and that liquidity
goes into the new company. But all of it can't
go because I can't. Like I'm I'm just keep I'm
just going and going and going. You know, Eventually it

(19:25):
has to it has to start to see some kind
of turnaround for profit or I'm gonna have to go
out and I'm gonna have to get an investor or
two to come in and help because I think so
for this project, maybe just because I have more money
now in my account so I could spend it, and
I don't want to do that. That's not the smartest

(19:46):
thing to do, especially when you're like almost eight million
in right, you know what I mean. But the shows
that I have coming are phenomenal and they're unmatched and
it's going to turn everything around. You thinking eight million,
you're thinking eighty million, you're thinking one hundred millions. Those
are just numbers to me. They are like, I don't
want any I don't want any money in my account.

(20:07):
Anytime I make money, I make sure the kids can
always feed my kids account, always make sure my baby
mama's good, right, whether we're up or down, right, she's
always good. That's first priority. And then the rest. I
gotta get rid of all of it and invest everything
in there. Nothing I don't want anything in my account.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Are Blue Flac and Kasehan Rock on your TV and
TV programming?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
They do. They do have a show It's called House
of Blue Face, Shout Out to Blue Face and Whack
one hundred. I was able to license six seasons of
the show Blue Face did on only fans which is
fucking wow. Man, It's some of the best content nobody's
seen and it's really doing well for the network. Subscribers
are going crazy over it. But I do have that.

(20:54):
But it's a licensed show. Six episodes, what's seven? Five
already seen two exclusive and we're given like our viewers
and the tronic subscribers like all of the meat.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
How's that work with them?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I love it. I love it. I love working with
Whack and I love working with blue Face. I haven't
got a chance to work with Krishan personally. Hands on.
We met a few times and she's great. I mean,
in reality they are like the Bonnie and Clyde of reality.

(21:29):
Joscelyn would be like the Beyonce. Okay, Tiffany Pollard would
be like the Rihanna, and Ray j would be like
the Frank Sinatra. But to Shakespeare, Steven Spielberg, really, Scott.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Okay, do you have a relationship?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
How was it?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
How were you able to build a relationship with fifty.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Through Jackie Long. Jackie Long, who is one of the
greatest actors of our time, He's a close friend of mine.
He is close with fifty. So Jackie's my friend. So
he's he connected me with fifty. But we were all
good when we were all doing the money team shit.

(22:29):
But after that kind of like broke up. Then Jackie
Long and Fifty always had a good relationship. So Jackie
kept me, kept me tied end, you know, whenever Fifty
needed any anything, he wanted to ask a question for
me or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, fifty, you've been a celebrity for a long time.
What is it with celebrities dated the same women? It
gotta be like twenty million. Let's just say, for the
Sega argument, there's eight million women of dating age. Let's

(23:10):
just say from the age of nineteen to fifty five.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's obviously they're older one. But I'm just.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Saying, I love this. What woild this interviews fucking though,
Like like the fire is even honeymoon. It's cool. Yeah, cool.
You know, like whatever you guys did, it was my
Dison fan in here too. Yeah, oh it is. Yeah,
that's what's happening. Yeah you know what. Shout out to
the team.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, they ran down the street, got him a new fan.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Shout out to the team, Like we matched it, like
we like I went out there. You can hear it
on the mic, I want a motherfucking diceon fan right now,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, wow, now we got
a black one. Yeah not not like no color lines, right,
but now there's no segregation between the two.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Anything purchased doone club.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Set, no doubt it's left behind. I got and you
know what, I watched this episode part two and it'll
be like sponsored by Dice, right, So fuck it?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Right? Why is that?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Y J?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Why is what?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Why do celebrities date the same women?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Why do women date the same celebrities? As the question,
because you know, women are the most special thing in
the world and depending on your your mission, meaning like

(24:44):
I want to have fun, I want to get to
know this girl. I want to work with her, I
want to be with her, I want to marry her,
I love her, I want to love her, I want
her to be my girl, or I just want to
be like shit, if she want to hang out with me,
because she might have somebody she looking at, but she
just want to put me on her resume. Okay, Well
you know, yaba daba do right in that world depends

(25:04):
on what it is. I think it's all about the
choice of the celebrity and the girl. But sometimes the
girls are so beautiful. One celebrity might be like, yo, man, oh,
she's the greatest thing I've ever heard, but I don't
have her no more for the next guy's DM. I

(25:25):
bet them all the pretty women, their dms must be
crazy with football players. Basketball basketball players and football players
like to smash everybody's women. That's why I don't like them,
because it's not okay. It's like you guys have have
shit at home, but y'all, motherfucker's in the gym so much.

(25:47):
Nigga's just ready to fuck and just you know, and
you conquer the other girl and after you finish, you like, yeah,
so she in love with you, but you're done and
so you know what I mean. After a while she
called her dude back. That ain't cause you know what
I'm saying. That's cause y'all, don Ben y'allden just said,
you good basketball players, football players and soccer players from

(26:11):
London are all like you know what I'm saying, that too, greedy, y'all.
Greedy y'all, tall niggas and buff niggas, ship man niggas,
niggas leaving practice practice tomorrow, so all day you just
at the house eating good. You know what I'm saying,

(26:31):
watching you die, you're gonna do to a day's but
you just to day you see that girl like girl
at home. I love you, I love you. I don't
like y'all basketball players and football players.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I got.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I got a couple of friends. But I said, Paul George,
that's my nigga. Now nobody else on the clipper.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
So let me ask your question though.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Let's just say you like this, you like this girl,
and you find out one of the homen talking to her,
you back off? Or do you tell him say, bro,
you know I was trying to holler at her? Or
I did this, I did that? How do you how
do you have that situation?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, I just I'm just now back on the market,
so I ain't been out here that long. I don't
know what I would do now because I haven't been
out there that right. Plus I still love princess, but
I don't give a fuck. I don't even know she's

(27:35):
who she been with.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
But but your boy hollering at her.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
My my, my boy or somebody I'm cordial to that,
nobody cordial to. I don't give a fuck, just like
they don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck even when you're together, even
when you're in love. They want to conquer, They want
to run around with that.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Instance, Why you would what not your wife? Now?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, I don't well I don't go through her phone,
so I don't know. But I'm sure. I'm almost sure.
There's at least forty five months of us out of
four point five million savages.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
But you, I mean, but you're okay because you met
your wife through Floyd?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right, M.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
You're overtund old old sound did I did? I mean?
Press us? I know that the situation was was weird
when we started to like each other.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
How was it weird?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, it was weird because like I really liked her
and she was still kind of like in a situation
with PB. But at the end of the day, who
is peb Floyd? At the end of the day day hold.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
On, hold up?

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Died out?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
They were dating?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Uh, I thought, I thought you up?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
No, I hooked him up with miss well, I hooked
him up with the two girls that was supposed to me.
My love interest is on for the love ray J
the winners. Why did you do that because he was
my friend. He said, that's what was like. It was like, okay,
I was young, so I didn't I wasn't tripping. Like

(29:35):
if somebody want to be with somebody they said no,
I don't want to do it, then that okay. But
if they was like, oh yeah, I'm interested, then you
line it up, right, Because when we were younger, being
honest is the only way you win, right, So that
we had that that that honesty. You was the homie.
I'm the homy, right, so they like you cool if
she liked me and you in a relationship with your

(29:57):
baby mama, you got your main girl, you got your
all this and then you like princess too, but you
ain't super locked in, and we want to be locked in.
Congratulate and celebrate with us, just like I celebrated with
Like when when you when you like somebody and they
like to that I was liking, but they liked you more,
so no problem. We all celebrated together. And so I

(30:20):
feel like that should have been the same way. And
maybe now it's like that. I think back then sometimes
when you like fifty and oh or forty five and oh,
and then now on this side, you you took one
or one and I don't know how the numbers.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I had a relationship between you and Floyd.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Now I think it's it's cordial, like it's cool. I've
seen him out and it's all of It's like I
don't have any issues and he doesn't either. But it's
just our friendship is not it was not there no more,
not that he gives a fuck.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
You think that has you think princess love? Has?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
You think your your wife, your mother, the mother of
your kid. You think that had something to do with it?
Then why would you do it?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Because I loved her? But here the thing you didn't.
He didn't. He didn't love her.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
You know what when a dude said, many go ahead, boy,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know they care why I like? I went go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, like you my friend.
So when I want to go ahead one time, he
said a lot of times I want to go if
I want to, like, that's not fair. We gotta be

(31:26):
fair friends. Just because you got more money and you're
not used to certain things, you have to get used
to it because somebody don't like me too.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
You do you understand, Raggie.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Gonna raise somebody gonna like me just like they like
you know you, Yes, a girl might like like one
of my homegirls. She's my homegirls, right, but we're fucking around.
She like you, She's like, man, you know he really
wearing that shirt. You know what I'm saying. Now watch
club Shashee. You know what I'm saying. I want to.
I want to I want to be his baby or whatever. Right,
and she my homebo. I'm like, you really feeling a homie.

(31:58):
I'm like, well, should I see what's up? And people
are going what you do?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Like her?

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Let's go to they done? No matter if no, she's
she's my homegirl. I know she's not my girl.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I know, but.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
We're living in a world of everybody being honest. We're
in this like space of honesty at this point, right,
not a level of wife man like. It's not that
it's just a word. It's in a pool of love
and honesty.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I haven't been in that world yet, but you have,
have you have? I ain't. I didn't know about Maybe
I haven't. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You're saying that if you knew your friend was with somebody,
you don't want to be with her. Nah, I can't,
so you one of them gun to niggas I can't.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
But no, But I'm just saying, like I said, I
ain't check this out rigid, I ain't got but I
got like two best friends. I got too, I'm talking
about I'm talking about die for they die for.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Me while they need kidneys.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Huh, they need kidney.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
I say, if they need a kidney and we matched
they good.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Are y'all gonna is anybody here gonna give me a kidney? No,
I'm just my friend.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
But but I think I think a lot of times
guys will say that to try to keep may.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't care, nobo, go ahead, go ahead and see
that's now with me, Like, it's not like that. It
doesn't break my heart because she wants to be with
you and you want to be with her, So why
would I be mad? Because she and you both I'm
not convincing nobody. They say nah, and I'm like, they ain't,

(33:28):
but they really was with it, And so I'm like,
I'm excited for y'all. You know what I'm saying. And
I hope that he and I thought that I would
get the same respect.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, clearly that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But it didn't. And I'm not gonna go. You're not
gonna like it's like, Yo, Ray met me outside, let's fight.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Why would I I might have to pass, like you
know what I'm saying. So you know, it's one of
those things. But I got nothing beloved for and that's
so long ago. I'm sure he's good now.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm sure if we sat down and talked, we'll probably
be super cool now. And I'm sure that that might
happen after this interview, because motherfucker everybody watching ship. So
you know, you don't help me men a couple of
relationships and.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Get a couple of oh you five percent of a
couple of deals already with perpetuity.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
When you were younger, you did you? You went after
some older women.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Bro, he's good. I'm looking at I'm looking at him
like listen, listen, say Shane, you have a fucking book.
You you it was you. It was like y'all got

(34:49):
the y'all got the stuff that Yo. The d S
one scared me. I think it went over the note.
But you were right on the morning fucking money tit them.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Okay, So yeah, when you were younger, what was it
the Was it the allure of an older woman? It
was the fact that somebody was like fifteen twenty thirty
years older than you.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
What was what was your attraction? Was it the name?
Was it the allure? What was it?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You know with a older woman. Back in the day,
when I was like fifteen fourteen, I had a girl
she was like thirty four. I was like fourteen, How
long is the how long is that? Fourteen twenty?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
What I said, that's nineteen twenty years.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Twenty years older. What the older woman made me realize
was that I was dirty and I needed to be cleaned.
I need to be cleaned. Yeah, I need to be cleansed.
I was dirty, right, literally dirty minded, dirty in the field,
and bodily dirty. So my arm, my little thirty year

(35:59):
like she was, I think thirty four, I'm gonna say,
d you know what I'm talking about. So I would
go over to her house. She got all white. And
what happened was she told me to take a shower
one day before I got in her bed. So I
took a shower, I took to rubbed myself. I thought,
I did, I mean everywhere? Shit. I get out the

(36:20):
shower and I take the white towel and I draw
myself off, and the towel dirty is a dirty it's
still dirty. I mean I probably bathed myself drying off
better than I did in this shower, right, towel dirty
in the motherfucker. So she start tripping. That ain't how
it go. So she put me in a tub in
roses and bathed me every night until I got in
the bed and the tub was I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It was.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It was unsuitable. You couldn't nobody could sit in there.
After that, I was just a pool with the ring around,
really dirty. So she so they really taught me how
to be clean. And that's why I love an older woman,
because they really just they like bathing me. They cleanse
me of all dirt and all sin back in the day,

(37:07):
and I'll never forget them.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You're still interested in older women.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I'm old now, so I can't. Yeah, puts it too
old now we're talking. We're talking eighty ninety and like
ninety five. But I love a ninety five year old woman,
Don't get me wrong. I just don't want to bother her.
I don't want to bother I don't want to mess

(37:32):
with her like that, right, now fuck up her day.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Uh, your sister's a sister, you ended up dating and
this tape.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I'm just trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Out ray is there is there anyway? Okay, y go ahead?
Is there anyway before we get into this? Yeah, we
can take it too.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's got to be the bathroom's behind it. Thanks.

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(38:55):
you're going you're getting divorced?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Right? Are you already divorced?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
No good, this is our third time trying to do it.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Is there any chance of reconciliation? That saw?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
It always is it always is until it's like for
sure final, even if it's final with papers. I mean,
that doesn't stop us from, like you know, loving each other,
you know, understanding and learning each other as we go,
because we're still co parenting. We both love our kids,
and we both love being around each other with the
kids and without the kids. You know, it's just sometimes

(39:27):
time apart heals all, you know, And I think when
you get older you kind of realize that.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
So let me ask you this. Are you open so
before you are? Are you willing to date before the
divorce is final?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I don't. I'm never dating again.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
What you mean you'll never get dating again.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I'm just I've never dated before, I mean except for
the Dating Show, but I don't. I don't even like
going to dinner period, So to go to dinner and
go on a date, it's just something I don't want
to meet anybody. Like when you love someone, I think
you loved one time in each life cycle, like you

(40:07):
really love someone, right, there's one person you love, and
I love that person, you know, and that's Princess. And
so you know, whatever happens if she loves again or
find somebody else, you know, I just have to deal
with that. But as far as for me, it's just work, work, work,
work work. If I got friends, like, I've always been

(40:29):
blunt my whole life, and then I met Princess, so
then I slowed it all down. But now that I'm here,
I'm back being extremely blunt again. And that's all A
woman or whoever you like, that's all. That's all they
ask is that you just be straight up, whether the
truth hurts or not.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Can we go back?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
You said you've blunt, You met Princess and you slowed
it down. You mean stop, there's no other womenges you
and Princess, y'all and you and you say you and
so you'll go back to the old ray J No
daty just like this what it is?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
This what you get? This is what I got. Offer
Boom to leave it.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I'm a good friend, though, but I'm not. I will
never be like in love with somebody else when I'm
when I already love someone, you can't say you're in
love and make a vow that intense, even if even
if it gets you know, cut short for me. You know,
my word is all I got. So that's what I

(41:30):
said it was, and that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
What seems to be the issue with you and Princess.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Just I think, just I don't really know, but I
know that there's a world outside that wants to see
you go down, and there's a world outside that if
they don't get what they want, they'll try to crumble
everything around, right, So it just has to do with

(41:57):
a lot of he says, she say. And sometimes you
may get tired of somebody for a little while, and
then you know, you want to just go out and
see what's out there. And then you sometimes figure there's
nothing else out there, then you fall back in love
with the person. So maybe that's what that is. I
don't know, but I know I love Princess, and you know,
right now I'm working hard. I'm making sure she's involved

(42:21):
with everything I'm doing on every major TV show, from
producer to EP to her shows and to us, just
spending a lot of time with the kids. We got
horses together. She has a horse. I have a horse.
The horse had a baby. A horse is a horse,
of course, you know what I'm saying. And so my
kids got horses too, So I'm tired of horsing around,

(42:44):
which was very like weird what I said. But she
wants to shout out to mister ed, would you?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I mean, I don't want to be presumptuous, but am
I hearing you correctly? Where you are?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Are you saying that you would be okay if she
found someone else, spend a little time with that person,
it didn't work out, and then you guys come back together.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Well I would be devastated, of course. But you know again,
just because the person I love goes out to experience life,
I mean, everybody deserves that. You only get one life.
When we're both seventy five, you know, god willing or
eighty or eighty five, and we're sitting at the table

(43:31):
and she asked me, did you live it up? And
I'm like, shit, yeah I did. And I want to
when I asked her the same, I want her to
say the same.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I want to say no, that's not fair, man. Look here,
I don't want candat was a ride to marry go around?
That's a the fair.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
That's not fair. No, but if you've already but if
you wrote the marry go around.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
She riding the marry go around? She right, you've been
you've been married, go around it. So she still got
to mess with your marry go around? Different her married,
that's different. And now I'm telling you, I'm telling you
I had to train myself to get to that point
because it's hard because a man realizing that a woman
is moving on or don't want to fuck with them
no more is a mind fuck and it takes them

(44:15):
a long time to get over it, you know what
I'm saying. And so for me, I had to get
over that and then understand that everything should be equal.
Like if I'm this is gonna hurt. I gotta tell
you if I just had a six tom last night,
which I can't and just too much, right, there's too
much energy for me. It's my things to do in

(44:37):
the next day, right, But it just you had a
six them. She should be able to have a six No,
uh five, No, listen toosome. A sevensome is out of bound.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
She'd even wait at home for me to call.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
A sevensome and you had a six them is not
be and equal to life, and so that's a big problem, right,
But six of you did a sixth Get over it.
She did a six on it'll kill you. You'll jump in
the fire and rather be burned for the day and
walk back home with no arms. Then the person you
love did the same thing you did last night, but

(45:20):
just with the people that she was just fucking with,
and then the next day she don't give a fuck
about them.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
But women don't operate like that. It's hard for a
woman to operate like that. I don't men operate like that.
Like you said you had artists.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Well, listen, women are the new men. Women are in control.
They've always been in control in real life, but now
it's come to a place where women always been smarter,
more compassionate. They spend more time on making sure things
are right, and so they should have the same equality

(45:53):
and doing that as a man. If he's out there
doing that, of course, if you don't want her doing that,
then you can do it period. But if you are,
you have to accept the equality of what that should be,
and you have to think about it in the worst
way too. Like you did a six them go thirteen
some and then go to twelve and just accept it.
Right even if she like I wouldn't. That ain't even right.

(46:16):
That ain't even her style though, But except that, if
you know if you're doing it, because if she finds out,
it hurts just the same, or it hurts worse. And
men don't think it, but it's it hurts because be
just the same way or worse.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
But see, we've been taught and women have told us, like,
it's more sex is more tied to emotion and feelings,
and so for them to be able to distinguish sex
from feeling, unless that's your profession, it's kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I don't think so. Not in twenty twenty four, back
in the day, yes, okay, in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I think, so I'm gonna get married.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
It's scary, man, it don't ever think that, you know, God,
I think, well, yeah, I had a crazy night, baby.
You know, he's like her, baby, I had a crazier night. Wait,
what happened? It's like, that's not right, right, You got
to be able to accept it if your night was crazy,
expect that she had a crazier night. Wow. Didn't stop

(47:17):
y'all from coming back together the next day, eating breakfast.
She if she was a good cook. She cooked you
breakfast and you cooked her.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Took the eggs, Benedict, Benedict, she on no more, she
good hungry.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Would you ever date a celebrity again?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
No, I'm never dating anybody again. Done. I've never loved
I ever date man.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
That's that look. I understand that that's your love.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
No. No, I'm not trying to say anything right. I just
if anybody around me. I care so much about being honest.
I give no fucks at all. I don't give a fuck.
I care so much. I give no fucks. I care
more than anything in the world.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
What you want, Prince's love bag.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I want her to know that I'm never going anywhere,
and she knows that, and so together through this these phases,
I just want to make sure that we're good and
the kids know that we're still a solid unit together.
That's very important.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
When you meet Kim, who at the time is said
Kim Kim, Kim, Kim, got it, Yeah, got it?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Whose Brandy's style is correct?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Is that what she was at the time coloset designer,
closet designer, and her other her sister was Brandy's assistant.
Shout out to them for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Was there instant attraction or because she was around so
much you developed an.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Attraction she wasn't around again, Brandy has her world, my world.
Brandy birthday, come up. We all having dinner. It's a
big birthday dinner. A lot of people at the table.
And over the years, you know, but like this, it's posture. Here,

(49:16):
here are we perfect? Here, here I can be loose.
See America. Okay, I'm doing coming to Africa too later
be on that with me. So yeah again being Brandy's
brother again, Brandy, thank you, thank you for allowing me

(49:39):
to just be in the room. Because in that room,
I would you know, a lot of things happen in
different rooms. And so brand hooked that up and it
was a journey and an adventure and it led to
a lot of big positive things in this industry. The

(50:00):
wheels are turning different.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Maybe I was a part of the hub cap of
it or the hundred spoke of it, but it happened,
and and yeah, it's it's a it's a mind blowing thing,
you know, and God is good. It helps us all,
you know, move forward and being at peace and understanding

(50:24):
that ship and understanding the talent that we all have
scares me sometimes hopeful sound okay, okay, I've helped for it.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
So did you think this tape would ever get out?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
The tape?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
The tape? Did you have a copy? She had a
copy that with the two copies of one copy.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
See and you my mother fucking boy now, and I
fuck with you tough. This ship has been a fucking
dope ride. I feel like I'm in like I'm in
a therapy session that I should be in because my therapy.
She just listened to me. She don't say nothing back,
and I'm like, is that what's happening. She's just like,

(51:10):
I'm okay, okay, because you don't supposed to give me
no opinion back way. I just I ain't never really
learned in this. I would love to say more than
I can, okay, but it's you know, you're dealing with
a different kind of like story and a different kind
of situation, and it's it's it's tough to explain it

(51:32):
today like I could before. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
But it's been very profitable for you. Correct it was, Yeah,
it is still currently I don't really the highest selling
sext tape of all time estimators made over one hundred million.
You negotiated, through what my sources have told me, a

(51:56):
million dollar advance and you get forty nine percent of
the profit.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
And so you look at that, You look at Raycon,
you look at Scooty Bike, you look at now right,
and then you look at somebody saying, you know, I
got a loan for three million. It's like that the
only thing bogus about all that is the loan. Right,
Because I make I make money. I'm not gonna say
a lot of money because that's corny. I make money

(52:23):
and I invested, and and it comes in ways where
I've practiced and disciplined myself to not have money, meaning
like whatever I have, I don't have. So when you
watch all of these people stunting and they hopping off
the jets, and they got all this jewelry on and

(52:44):
they're they're they're in there, I think they're inferior to
the person with no money. The person with no money
is more relatable than the person who has money. Right,
So it's not cool to have money to me, I
think it's cool to use the money to continue to
grow the businesses.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Ray, I'm gonna disagree I think it's cool to have money.
It might not be cool to flaunt it.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It's never cool to flaunt it, but it's not even
cool to have it. Money is not okay. You know it,
I know it. We want to get something today, you
want to get something tomorrow. You got it? What then?
What You're in your new house looking at other shit
to mind?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Don't you like the access and the freedom that money
allows you to have?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Absolutely absolutely, But it doesn't make me more than anybody else.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
And I think that's the problem with some of the
people who have tried to be my friend or people
that are rich around me, Like I'm gonna check the
shit out of anybody that disrespects my housekeeper, the valet,
the janitor, anybody that I need that's more important than me,
which is everybody around me. I can't move without, you

(53:53):
know what I'm saying, the trash man coming to get
the trash. It's over for us. It's rats everywhere, right,
So they're needed more than me. Same with my housekeeper,
same with my security, same with my assistance, same with
everybody around me. I just the equality of everybody matters,
And I think the money makes people think that they

(54:13):
shit different, Like does my shit stink? No, because I'll
be smoking a blunt when I'm taking a shit, so
you can't really smell it, but it's still stink if
I didn't like the blunt, So I keep a bluntlet.
But I'm my ass, and I don't mean to talk
about my ass, but it's no more better than anybody

(54:35):
else's ass, just because I got a little money. And
that's why if I make money and I say, shit,
we made eighty million in the last three years, you
know why that goes over everybody's head because it doesn't
sound believable. It's absolutely absurd. So why would we even
listen to you say that?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
And so that's the underestimation of money and what it
does when you don't act like you have it, or
you don't act like that is what makes you who
you are.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
You see what this family and Kardashians have been able
to done. You look at Kim, who's a billionaire. You
look at the younger sister, Kylie.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
She love what Kylie's doing amazing close to being there
all the family for sure, be for for Kendle, and
I love what Ken Kendall's doing and Kylie.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
So different?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
How different are their lives minus this tape?

Speaker 2 (55:31):
That's a crazy question.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Man, because we know who their father is, because he
was one of the lead attorneys on OJ Rest his soul.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
That's o J too. Damn that nigga just died rest
in peace. He was a cold one.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
So we knew who they were. We knew that family,
but we didn't we knew him.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Can I get? I got some of that o J
we had last night? That ship was killer?

Speaker 3 (55:52):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
She as good as fuck? The duck oranges aren't so? Do?
I mean not? That was distasteful and disgraceful and that's
not okay, And I want to apologize to everybody in here.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah okay, and your best guess how different is that family?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Or that family? Is that family? Wife?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You know? I think more of the question is how
different would we all be? How different would this whole
fucking thing be? How different would the industry be? How
different with the wheel row? Everything would be different. We
would all be different, all of us, everybody in here
would be different. We will have on different clothes. What'd

(56:40):
you mean everything would be different? Meaning like you would
never ask me that question? Meaning if we sat here
right now, we got to this point, what like, I
don't know, probably more people will be going to college
and you know what I'm saying, getting an education and
be successful. There might not be any only fans and
all the things things like that or the other opportunities

(57:01):
like that. So I mean, are we a part of
the cure? Are we a part of the disease? I
don't fucking know. All I know is I'm just trying
to make it right.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Were you have embarrassed when the tape came out? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I have kids now, So when I have kids, and
everything that we did now, when I have kids, it's
totally different. The whole thing is wacky. Before I was
just like, but with my kids, it's not okay. And
so I can't without me going too far into it

(57:51):
without me getting in trouble. Yeah, I mean, nah, it's
not it's not okay now. But I'm forty three with
a kid that's four and a kid that's six, My
daughter six, my son's four. And even though you're young,
and even in that young kid world, they'll all probably
think it's fucking cool. Yeah, until you have kids and

(58:12):
you have a daughter, and there's some of the ship right,
We're fine. Every thing's fine.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
How did you find out that the tape had got
in leaved? Where were you when you found out? Did
your homies tell you? Did your mom call you? Like,
ray J, you need to get home, you need to
Where were you the moment that you found out that
ray J is on tape having sex.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
So long ago, all I remember is how it smells.
I'm just playing.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I didn't mean that either. Spoke great. Hmmm. I love
the wood kind of sandal right, It's like it's really good. Yep. Man, Yeah,

(59:26):
that's fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Man. You mentioned you mentioned Kanye earlier, your relationship with him.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Now, h that Nigga gave me a straight jacket for
a gift, a straight jacket. It was BLESSI I but

(01:00:03):
it was a one way you see the jackets or
your stop. But then there's the other way is the same.
So I put it on, you know what I'm saying,
because when he gave it to me, I took it home.
I don't want to open it, you know what I'm saying.
I want to wait till I get home and want
my friends. Pulled it out, tried to put it on,
and it was like you know, it was a straight jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
My friends and they were all like happy, and then
I can see their face like and I was like,
you know, is that saying something? Is it? It is
just a is this? But is this me a straight
jacket that I that has no sleeves to wear? I

(01:00:48):
thought I hit him and I hit DP and I said,
my nigga, like I thought it was okay at first,
but after presenting, after presenting to my friends, man, nobody,
nobody was happy. So I'm trying to understand what is this?
And you know, it's a custom piece, you know, something
monumental that you know, niggas want you to have, and

(01:01:10):
that's how we feel about you. That's what we've okay,
all right, So that's and that's where we left it.
I got the straight jacket, niggas went to Dubai and yeah,
I ain't seen nigga since you know, I'm sure they've
been busy. I've been busy. Uh, nigga want a regular

(01:01:31):
gift through.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
But he did mention you in a verse though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
He did. But I mean niggas got the new cyber
trucks out and all kind of shit, like you know
what I'm saying he apologized to me in Drink Champs.
Nobody aired it, nobody showed it because it was at
a time when he was going through the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
We'll tell him to you want them cyber trucks? Do
you accept apology?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You know what? He watches Club Sha Shay too, which
is dope because I'm getting how you know he watched
I guarantee you Kanye watches Club Shah's and that's a fact.
There's no way Kanye doesn't watch Club Cha Shay. But
we got cool and I'm fucking around with the straight
jacket he did get get me while I bought it

(01:02:19):
for twenty it's twenty bucks, but he didn't tell me
it was not wear aborn. But for twenty I mean
the straight jackets still worse. Belinciaga as big as a motherfucker.
Like it's heavy. So if y'all want to get it,
like I'm going, I'm selling it for like three hundred,
I gotta make a profit, right, that's a big profit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Two eighty celebrity boxes. Would you really do a celebrity
boxing match?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Who would I fight?

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
No more, I don't have anybody to fight.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
You'd have made peace with everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Everybody, Man, I don't have a problem nobody, everybody that
I said something bad to And if I never apologized,
I apologize everybody that says something bad to me. I
apologize for you. Right, That's how serious this shit is. Like, like,
I want peace with everybody, and if we can all
do business later, I have something to bring to the table.

(01:03:18):
So I'm excited about that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
What about only fans? Would you do only fans?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I think if only fans was doing more of a
ratchet clean cut kind of like how do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
You get ratchet and clean in the same center.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Well, that's kind of like what the Tronics network is.
It's it's it's it's not only fans, but it's it's
a very loud network that gives you a chance to
make more money than you make on only fans or
even in the advertising space. No disrespect to YouTube and
all the podcast shows and link Tree and all these motherfuckers. Right,
but the wave is this is the wave, right, You

(01:03:52):
are the wave. You are the wave, right, So you
got this wave if you would allow us to wave
a lit little bit with you, the sideway with us
is like we surfing, bro, Like we surfing like this
with the electric surfboard. So it's just gliding with an extra,
like an extra like layer of like you know, bread

(01:04:14):
that goes forever. Like That's what we specialize in, making
money that nobody knows is being made and keeping the
discipline to act like it's not being made.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I'm trying to figure out, how were you able to
go to hughe help the Playboy part of the sixteen?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
How you do that? And guess what? Hughes? So let
me pull my car right up in the front and
behind and while everybody took the shuttle, just pulled right up.
So we'll go in there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Ye suposed to be in there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
But it's dope because it was a house. So I
never really tried to go and put people in in
jeopardy in their businesses and be at the actual club.
So I always went to like houses. He's like, I'm
just saying with you, we chilling. He know what's up
with us, And we've always brung and as sordid flavor
of friends and fun and limited friction.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You one of the only people I know this kind
of bending some of these parties. What do you Hollywood party?

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
You know? For me, it's just a lot of beautiful women.
I barely like went up in like these parties and
went to their bedrooms and shit and had a good
time upstairs because I always had my own upstairs and
downstairs right especially at the house, and callmo circle that
was up at there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
But good, look, I mean like ten, ten, tens, tens
and tooths.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Used to do tooths, I used to do twos and three.
O lord, a ten. I would take them out to eat,
I drop them off in ten thirty and then I'll
be with a two from twelve to five. Three. I
didn't like tens and like tens to be with the
just it's just a lot. I mean, it's just the

(01:06:05):
expectations and all the things that they're used to come
on to you. I got some in it. Oh, just
the expectations is too much. I like a tend to
talk business and for her to whoever she likes. After this,
she can go back to eat a little corn, have
a little motherfucking bread, have a little clam chowder, not

(01:06:26):
that kind, but with the bread, and then the little
hot sauce like I love you girl, but yeah on
your shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So there are some people recently that you know, and
you're friendly cool with the R Kelly situation, in the
Ditty situation.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
What's going through your moment when you hear.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
With obviously R Kelly is his his thing has already
been handed down, He's already received this punishment. And you
see Diddy going through what he's going through, all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Right, Brad, Yeah, man, everybody messes up, but that's we can't.
We can't, we can't, we can't be cool. After that,
it took me like a week to like, yeah, it's like,

(01:07:24):
so that's unforgettable. Unforgivable is too much never being able
to be around us in our world because we don't condone.
That is definitely a fact. And from there you have
to go on that journey on your own and find

(01:07:46):
find yourself and find forgiveness for yourself and somewhere far
away from where we are. But there's no room for
that here. There's no no room for that in this
world that we've been working hard to get to and
to limit our mistakes and to continue to build our respect.
And what scares me about that is that if there's

(01:08:11):
other guys out there that's doing that or I've done
that and that are forgiven now I would say, what
do we do with them? How does that work? You know,
That's the only thing I'm kind of confused about because
if I'm like, I'm good, but there's I might run

(01:08:32):
into a couple of people and forgot that they might
have been in that situation. Haven't seen it. That's just
fucking unacceptable. I've never ever seen nothing like that in
my life. I'm never witnessed nothing like that in person
or on camera. Besides the Teena Turner movie. That ship
was out of bounds, right, So if I didn't see

(01:08:53):
somebody else do it, but I heard about it, and
they they're forgiving. Now that I know that, what do
I do with these niggas? Or what do I do
with them? What do you do? What do we do?
I'm asking you, uh, you, I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Agree with you. I've never been around in a situations
like that. I've never seen, don't know of anything to
that nature. But had I I would all, I would intervene.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I would have went crazy intervening.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I'm not gonna let you do I'm not gonna let you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Do that because I've never trust.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Me im and adults.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
It would have been my pleasure to get busy and
protect whoever was going through that, and I and Cassie
like you are, you are strong and you know we're
talking about your situation. So with all due respect, I'm
sorry for everything that you encountered. I've been around you.
I've been around y'all. I never knew you know what

(01:09:44):
I'm saying, And I apologize for even she's even continuing
to just be around Like I don't know who I
am now knowing this, I know what I want allow
and so if I know anybody around me that's active
in that world, I'm gonna react. And now I'm just

(01:10:09):
going through what do we do with people that have
been in those situations that we've never seen what it
looks like, but we know that it happened. What do
we do? Because I can forgive from afar, but like,
I'm not saying, what's up to puff like that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Again, it's not cool like that, So shouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Be like that? Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
The other nigga for sure that has even remotely played
around with that kind of situation and been involved with
even the smallest amount, Like right, people hit me and
they you know some of the some of the comments
and the comments are like BB shots to me. Like

(01:10:54):
from like ten miles away. But you know, you look
at some of the TV shows we did. You look
at me and Princess arguing a little bit on TV.
You know, they say, oh, you push Princess in a
pool and all of that, and I'm sorry, pranky, and
that's all television stuff and shout out to Viacom and
paramout plus because when shit is real in a dark place,

(01:11:17):
they there's boundaries. They're not gonna go there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
So you you enjoy the demise of relationships on TV.
But that's still on these surfaces of disagreeing and trying
to do better. Don't do that again, don't yell, don't
write that. Ain't that That's not that well, that's something else.

(01:11:42):
Bare knuckles knuckles, Like you know what I'm saying. The
homie need a public whipping.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah, it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Only way it's gonna get It's only way it's gonna
be right with a public whipmen, like you know, the whip.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
He can possibly in some serious trouble reading that they're
possibly convening a brand jewelry too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
One hundred lashes yea for the for the for the,
for the for the first.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Is the puffy the p Diddy is his life as
we know it is it over? Not not he's gonna
die or anything like that, but I'm saying will he
ever be?

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
What he was was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
A thousand lashes from everybody that you slain and heard,
A thousand lashes publicly, A thousand that would that would that,
that would help. H A thousand lashes made by you,
somebody that's gonna give it to him. Not my size,

(01:12:50):
my arm hurt, your size, nigga ain't gonna make it
past none. So think about a thousand, a thousand lashes
and you're that forgive it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
A few years ago you called a scare uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
You posted if it wasn't for my kids, I would
jump off and die tonight? Should I just jump and ended?
I ended right now? Maybe the next life my real story?
And then your sister posted nd you bro the praying hands.
What were you going through at that point in time
that had you so low that it's great as ray

(01:13:32):
J had it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Contemplated that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
I was a motherfucking mushrooms man, A motherfucker's a higher.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
No, never again, what made you try?

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Frog House?

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
It was good for the fungus was good what ever,
but an eighth of it and then just still going
through stuff right, and then you you know, naturally you
you enhance yourself and you just lose it a little bit.

(01:14:17):
And then you know, like I think that just regular
maybe weed here in Erica and just say it for me,
like the mushrooms and other things that can charge your
inner emotions. It's just something that you, you know, don't
need to do. Like if you that brown makes you
a mad drunk, don't drink brown makes you happy. Focus
on those things. If it's water or you know, busting

(01:14:40):
a nut or whatever it is, right, do that instead
of that. And so that just took me somewhere else,
and I was I was in a real black I
was in a real bad place. It's pretty ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
So there was nothing wrong with it, just that you
got you got a hold of something that you shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
But nah, there was something wrong with me really. But
but the stuff can activate honest emotions. And sometimes with
shrooms do they you I don't know, if you're seeing
the truth, you're seeing a little bit of the truth,
and then you just start acting like everybody's bad. But
before that, you can see a little bit of it
before you start going on your tweak right, But yeah,

(01:15:21):
I was going through some stuff and my mom and
my sister, Princess, the kids, everybody helped me through that,
my dad and sometimes you just kind of hit rock
bottom emotionally. You start to not like think everything is
a dream, nobody's real, because it's the whole ship is backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
What type of dad does re J want to be
to the kids? Because you had a great role model.
Your father was there, your mom was there in your
life all the time. It's very very supportive. So you
had a great you know what, you have a great
game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
The foundation I had was was was perfect. And I
think that that's what was confusing, because you know, I
wasn't perfect, and life and everything that I'm seeing around
me is not perfect. So what is this? Is this real?
Or is this real? Am I real? Or is that real? Right?

(01:16:16):
When the only things really that's real to me right
now is just my family and my kids and in
my family, meaning like you have your family like your kids,
your baby, mam and your wife, right, and then you
have your family, your mom, your dad, your sister, and
your family, your friends and everything and all that shit

(01:16:37):
starts to not seem like none of it. None of
it's like real, It's just all a dream. That shit.
When that kind of shit happens, you need to take
a break a couple of weeks off. You know what
I'm saying. For sure, you like going viral, No why
you do it? But I say today, y'all, I don't

(01:16:59):
know how to go viral.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yeah you do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I try not to. I don't know what's going on.
I just know that I'm unfiltered, and I just love
not giving a fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Your honesty creates viral moments.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Yours do even more. You are the viral king right now.
Like you know, I'm sure you've got one hundred and
fifty people trying to get on the show. You're like, look,
we can get you. On June twenty twenty seven, I
hit you at all too, and I said I need

(01:17:37):
to get in. I need to get in. So I'm
happy y'all call me because I'm like, I need to
jump up in this like right away. Well, we glad
you took time out of your business. What this was
by far the most fun I've had on thereview. I
thought Jason Lee was fun last week, but this is
way more. On another level of like me and Jason

(01:18:00):
was having a good time. He was asking me some shit,
but it was just crazy. This is very strong. It
has a lot of substance behind it, and I think
a lot of people are gonna watch this, you know
what I mean. And there's things that I've said that
that are gonna help certain relationships, and it's gonna it's
gonna bring about unity in certain areas that wasn't there before.

(01:18:23):
Just off them hearing what I'm saying. So I appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
Did you play sports growing up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
I hated sports? Do you know? I never made the cut,
but I'll blow twenty K. Of course I'll lake it up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Oh la.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I just like I like balling off the court. I
like being I like being successful to all of the
sports players and the sports teams and even the rappers
and the singers that are successful. There's other ways to
be successful, right, you know what I'm saying. And we've
carved these ways out to where we're gonna be on

(01:18:57):
time every fucking time. But we don't have to be right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Why did you? Why did you give up acting? Are
you interested in going back?

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
We'll working on script this stuff right now. Jackie Long
actor gang myself. I'm bridging the gap between reality stars
and actors. Because the reality stars have more pool, they
have more relevance. The young actors they have skill. They
will never go into reality because it's a sin for
actors in their world. How do you bridge the gap?
We found a way, and so I do want to

(01:19:29):
do acting. It just takes a long time. I have
extreme add I have ADHD with an extra ex on it,
and so to do one scene here, than one scene there,
and then this one up here, and then some directors
like to go through the glass, through the straw to
get this one shot. That shit might take two days
we shoot. I could shoot a whole reality shows twelve

(01:19:51):
episodes in three days. And so we just have more
of a Tyler Perry approach to reality as opposed to
just these long umbrella Academy like shot which is extremely
well time consuming. Movies take too fucking long. Last movie
I did ship, wod it take us twenty minutes? I

(01:20:16):
don't mean that one, Yeah, yeah, you do. No, I don't. Yeah,
because you're.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Trying to speak your you're trying to speak, you're trying to
speak your bys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
No, that one was like three and a half days.
That was three and a half days. That was three
our days of reality too, because it was a full
like thinking I had a full production. I mean, shout
out to all my people in Cowbo that did grip everything.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Yeah, that was I mean it was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
It was like commercial break man. It's all a blur.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Ten years from now. What is y J doing is like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Ten years from now? God, Please, I love it here.
I love it here for another twenty b thirty. I
love it until you give me my wings to just
jet rocket to the next planet. Hey, thank you for
letting me be here ten if God allows it. In
my draws, overlooking the water, just doing a few deals,

(01:21:19):
last few deals. Just I gotta be in my draws
looking at the water. Crib in the back, kids having
a good time. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
You want more kids?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I think I think I can have. I mean, my
sparm count was low. It was like nine million before,
but I think it's like sixty five million now, So
maybe one more.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
You have to give it them bluffs go back up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
If Brick you want to have another one, I do it,
but not with nobody else. I won't do that. But
if she wants to then I'll do it. She want
to adopt or do whatever. We gotta have one hundred
kids right, our whole little Army Ray Care Foundation. You know,
like a ratchet reality Eddie Murphy version of break Here
and coming to Africa, Coming to Africa. I'm gonna go

(01:22:07):
find the royal things in Africa, Ray j Ladies. All
my life, grinding all.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
My life, sacrifice, hustle bad, the price Wanta Slice, got
to brow the dice all my life. IPP be grinding
all my life, all my life, grinning all my life, sacrifice,
hustle bad, the price Wanta Slice got to brow the dice.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Sap all my life. I been grinding all my life,