February 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Police responded to a shooting in New Haven. When they arrived, they found Kevin Jiang shot to death in the street. About 100 feet away sat his Prius. Jiang had been shot multiple times.
Officers initially considered the shooting a possible case of road rage. Surveillance video from a nearby home captured the sound of a car crash before Jiang’s Prius entered the frame, followed closely by a dark SUV. Jiang’s Prius came to a stop as the SUV reversed. Jiang exited his car and walked toward the SUV, stepping out of the frame. Seconds later, eight gunshots and a scream were heard.
A witness told police she looked out her window after hearing the gunshots and saw the shooter standing over Jiang, who was already on the ground. The gunman fired additional shots at close range. Detectives at the scene noted stippling on Jiang’s face, indicating he had been shot at close range. New Haven homicide detective David Zaweski believed the evidence suggested something more than a random shooting or road rage.
That same night, police in North Haven responded to a separate incident at Sims Metal Management, a scrapyard near a highway entrance. A security guard reported a dark SUV had driven through the yard and become stuck on snowy railroad tracks. Officer Jeffrey Mills arrived and identified the driver as Qinxuan Pan. Pan’s license came back clean. Mills didn’t notice anything suspicious but recalled a yellow jacket, a black briefcase, and a blue bag with a Massachusetts logo inside the SUV. Officers arranged for Pan to stay at a nearby hotel for the night.
At 11 a.m., as Sgt. Mills was finishing his shift, an employee at Arby’s reported finding a bag containing a gun and bullets. Mills responded and recognized the yellow jacket, black briefcase, and blue bag from Pan’s car. Arby’s was next door to the Best Western where Pan had been dropped off.
By then, Mills had learned about the New Haven homicide and the search for a dark-colored SUV. He checked the Best Western and confirmed Pan had checked in but never stayed. Mills alerted New Haven police. Tests later confirmed the .45-caliber handgun found at Arby’s matched the shell casings from Jiang’s murder scene.
The SUV Pan abandoned on the railroad tracks remained at a tow facility. Investigators discovered it had been reported stolen from a car dealership in Malden, Massachusetts, where Pan lived. A dealership employee told police Pan had taken the vehicle for a test drive but never returned it.
Now, New Haven police were investigating a homicide, Malden police were handling a stolen vehicle case, and North Haven police had recovered the stolen SUV and the suspected murder weapon. All agencies were searching for the one man connecting them—Qinxuan Pan.
Joining Nancy Grace today:
- Peter Elikann - Veteran Boston-based Criminal Defense Attorney, Author of “Superpredators: The Demonization of Our Children by the Law” and “The Tough-on-Crime Myth; website: elikanncriminaldefenseattorney.com/; twitter: @PeterElikannLaw
- Dr. Chloe Carmichael – Clinical Psychologist, Women’s Health Magazine Advisory Board;’ Author: ‘Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety;’ X: @DrChloe
- Irv Brandt – Senior Inspector, US Marshals Service International Investigations Branch; Chief Inspector, DOJ Office of International Affairs, US Embassy Kingston, Jamaica; Author: “SOLO SHOT: CURSE OF THE BLUE STONE” – AVAILABLE ON AMAZON IN JANUARY; ALSO “FLYING SOLO: Top of the World;” Twitter: @JackSoloAuthor
- Dr. Eric Eason – Board-certified Forensic Pathologist, Consultant; Instagram: @eric_a_eason, Facebo
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Did an AI artificial intelligence guru plan the perfect murder
of a Yale grass student just after his marriage proposal.
I'm Macy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
A Yale grad student, newly engaged, gunned down next to
his damaged prius. Was it road rage or it targeted attack?
Who killed Kevin giong road rage?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Seemingly the motive? Listen.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I can't speak to the intent. I can't speak to motive.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
What I can tell you is that there was an accident,
and we are exploring whether or not that was material
in terms of the motive under for which he shot him. Again,
it's too early to talk about that, and I can't
share that, but what we can say is that we're
exploring absolutely every angle, including the fact that there was
an accident for seated the encounter.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
One week after Kevin Jeong's engagement to the love of
his life. Police are now informing his mother and his fiancee,
Zion Perry, of his tragic death. Detectives say the women
are distraughts and can't understand why anyone would have killed
Kevin Jeong.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess so distraught, and this guy, the shooting victim,
scrubbed in sunshine. Number one, devout Christian, number two, brilliant,
studying mercury levels in fish as part of his Yale
(01:35):
graduate degree. I mean, comes to the parents, come to
this country, work their fingers to the bone, get their
son into Yale University, the IVY League, Yelle, No, their
dreams come true. That's the lottery ticket, the golden ticket. Right,
(01:58):
you get into an IVY league. He's doing great, he
gets engaged. In fact, the money is so tight. He
lives with his mother. You were earlier hearing sound from
our friends at Fox sixty one, the mom that he
lives with.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The fiance I think he met at.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Church, completely distraught what happened? And then I just here
police refer to an accident. Wait a minute, Dave mac
joining me, Crime online dot com investigative reporter, accident accident.
How many times was the victim shot at point blank range?
(02:42):
Let me tell you point blank and we'll go to
an expert on this. Because the victim's face had soot
common vernacular gunshot residue on his face that only comes
from a point blank shooting.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's no accident, Dave mack.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
No, that's the perpetrator standing over the prone body and
pulling the trigger eight times in the face. That's what happened, Nancy.
There was no road rage accident. There was a whole
lot more going on in this case.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Joining me right now, longtime colleague, veteran defense attorney in
this jurisdiction, Boston based lawyer Peter Ellikin, author of an
incredible book, Super Predators, the Demonization of our children by
the law, and the tough on crime myth. Disagree with
(03:38):
all of that. Peter Ellikin, you and I have argued
about a lot of cases. I've prosecuted a lot. You
have defended a lot in court. But wouldn't you agree
shooting somebody eight times, including in the face, at point
blank rage, at point blank range. I don't know that
rage actually describes that eight times over a fender bender.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I agree that that would be my first clue that
it's a personal thing.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Usually when people do, I guess you call that overkill.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
You don't just shoot somebody to kill them, but you
keep shooting again and again and again. At that point
you say, gee, this must be personal. It's not just
somebody bumped into somebody's car, particularly when we're there and
said the shooting started instantly after the bumping of the car.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Elkan, you all represented roads rade, road ragers. Correct, you have,
and they have the defense of voluntary manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Now do I think that's legitimate?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, because voluntary manslaughter is typically in the heat of passion.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And I don't know why. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
When you went to law school, they always use the
example a man comes home and finds his wife in
bed with another man. Why is it always her? Why
is she always the cheater? Because the law professor is
a man.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's why. That's another can of worms.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Peter ellikin what kind of rage or wild anger, boiling
blood would get you a manslaughter as opposed to murder?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
One?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
I think that if it's in the heat of passion,
the person didn't plan on hurting anybody, The players didn't
plan on killing anybody, suddenly snaps and in a few
seconds just kind of blows up and maybe even ten
seconds later.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Says, oh my gosh, what did I do?
Speaker 8 (05:26):
That would be a heat of passion as opposed to
you know, another kind of intentional enough, and I could
see why the police if they arrive on the scene.
The first time they see there was an accident, somebody's dead,
that might be their first instinct to look into.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That, to see if it was a road rage. But
certainly they.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Would, didn't You just say that the person would commit
the act shooting, although I mean eight gunshot wounds, including
to the face, but then immediately regret the day. This
guy didn't come back, He drove off, He didn't come
back to try to save Kevin. He didn't come back
to check on him, He didn't call an ambulance, nothing.
(06:06):
So that defense is out the window. What did a
witness say? Listen?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
A witness says she looks out her window after hearing
the gunshots and sees the shooter standing over Young, who
was already down on the ground in the street. The
gunman fires additional shots at close range. Detectives at the
scene recognized Jeong has the appearance of stippling on his face,
something that can only happen from being shot at close range.
New Haven homicide Detective David Zorweski believes the evidence of
(06:37):
close range gunfire is indicative of something more than a
random shooting or even a case.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Of road rage.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Let me go straight out to renowned board certify forensic pathologists,
consultant medical examiner, doctor Eric Essen, doctor Ason, thank you
for being with us. Explain and regular people talk, okay,
straight vernacular.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What is stipling?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
How do we know these bullets were fired at close rings?
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Yes, I get asked this in court all the time.
Stippling also known as gunpowder tattooing. Basically, when a gun
is fired, you have the bullet that leaves the gun,
but also you have other stuff that leaves the gun.
And so you have the burned gunpowder, which causes soot
deposition onto the skin or on the target, soot similar
to what you see in like a fireplace. And then
(07:28):
you have what's known as the gunpowder that did not
burn up in the shooting, and so that leaves the barrel.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And if the.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
Gun is close enough to the target, those unburned gunpowder
particles are going to strike and a braid or scratch
the skin and leave these red purple dots on the
skin known as stippling or gunpowder tattooing. And when I
see that at autopsy, basically I know that the gun
was within probably about two to two and a half
feet from the body. No further away than two to
(07:57):
two and a half feet, but it was not touching
the skin. It was not more than two and a
half feet away. It was up close and personal, within
inches from the body. So up close and personal or
point blank is what was referred to earlier on.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Doctor Eric Aason. Now we know that typically gunshot residue
is a fine mist spray like baby powder. Okay, I've
used that in court as a demonstrative, can travel around
thirty six inches. Okay, yes, which means that's why if
you can catch the perp, you immediately want to do
(08:29):
a GSR gunshot residue.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Shot on their hands, their arms.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Their wrists, in between their fingers, and it's very delicate
like baby powder.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you just do this, it's gone much less.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If you let the purpm go to the bathroom and
they wash their hands over, you're not going to get
that now. Stippling to my understanding, as you said, tattooing
is different from just a gunshot residue, which has a
fine mist spray up to thirty six inches. Stippling or
tattooing is point blank. In other words, to my understanding,
(09:05):
you're the expert. Of course, the gun is practically if
not touching the skin.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Explain, inches away from the body is what we have.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Because the further you pull the gun away, the less
likely the gunpowder is going to have enough energy or
velocity to even reach the target. And so you have
to be with inches away. As soon as you get
to two and a half feet, the stippling or the gunpowder,
the unburned gunpowder is no longer going to have enough
energy to reach the target and it's just going to
fall off into the environment. And the other thing I
(09:36):
need to mention is that the gunpowder tattooing, these are abrasions,
so you can't rub them off at autopsy. We wash
the body and they cannot be scrubbed off. They're permanent.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
On those counts. They are the cuts, right, scratches actually
scratches like a tattoo. You get cut and the ink
is injected. I mean, you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
IRV Bran IRV Brandt, US Marshalls Service, chief inspector all
over the world trying to hunt down criminals, author of
a series of books on Amazon about Jack Solo. Who
could that be patterned after IRV? Let's get down to it.
Why do I keep talking about stippling and gunshot residue.
(10:23):
Because this perp goes over to Kevin Right, the yl
grad student, the one of devoting his life to helping people,
the one that just announced his engagement on Facebook, that
one that lives with his mother and supports her. That
one goes over to him, gets down on the ground
(10:46):
to this guy and holds the bullet to his head,
to his face and shoots him eight times. Now, I
got a lot of names for this perp, but it's
nothing I could say on air.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What about it?
Speaker 10 (11:02):
Brant Nancy, you're exactly right when you're describing a road rage,
someone getting out of the car, losing their minds, fighting,
just fire and shots wildly. Is completely different from shooting
someone then going up to the body and taking careful
(11:22):
aim and shooting people, shooting that person in the head
to make sure that they're dead. So you're exactly right
with that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He orv Look at your screen, Look at your screen.
There he is proposing to Zion. Hey, Dave mac do
they meet in charch Neither here nor there. I'm just
trying to remember where these two met.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
They actually met on a weekend Christian retreat.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We know what the witness says, but listen to what
cops say.
Speaker 11 (11:51):
At eight thirty pm on February sixth, police responded to
the scene of a shooting in New Haven. When they arrived,
they find Jiang deceased in the street. About a hundred
fet away was his car, a Prius. Forty five caliber
casings were also found at the scene, and it appears
Xiang had been shot multiple times.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Police get surveillance video from a nearby home. Playing the video,
they can hear the sound of a car crash before
Kevin Jong's Prius enters the frame. His car is followed
closely by a dark suv. Jiong's Prius comes to a
stop while the suv moves in reverse. Jeong exits his
car and is walking toward the suv as he walks
out of the frame on the surveillance video. Seconds after
(12:30):
Jeong is not visible on the video, eight shots and
a scream can be heard on the recording.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, who murdered a twenty six
year old rising star, a Yale grad student who had
just gotten engaged to be married, and why why would
anyone pick this target when you don't know where to go?
(13:06):
When you hit a dead end, and an investigation you
go back to the victim.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Are there any clues in Kevin's background?
Speaker 11 (13:17):
Kevin Giong is a twenty six year old overachiever. He
is a graduate student at Yale School of Environment, where
he is a second year master's student conducting research on
mercury levels in fish. He is a former lieutenant in
the US Army National Guard, serving in the one hundred
and eighteenth Multifunctional Medical Battalion of the Connecticut National Guard.
(13:38):
He brings his mother from Seattle to live with him
and volunteers to work with the homeless. Deeply religious, Kevin
has just proposed to the love of his life, Zion Perry,
who posts a video of the proposal on our Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining us renowned clinical psychologists, author
of Nervous Energy Harness The Power of Your Anxiety. As
I was watching that video, the dichotomy, you know this
was posted just days before he was gunned down like
a dog in the street.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
The dichotomy of that happy moment.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Compared to the juxtaposition of him lying there in the
snow in the shadows of Yale University's family fought so
hard to just advance him, help him, help him make
his dreams come true when they were all coming true.
That harsh dichotomy has a lot to take in, doctor Chloe.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, Nancy, it certainly is.
Speaker 12 (15:01):
As a clinical psychologist, obviously I see a lot of
hard things, but just seeing that simple, joyful moment, knowing
what's about to happen, is heartbreaking, not only as a psychologist,
but frankly as a mother. I really grieve for his
parents and obviously for her as well. I see this
as a mother and as a wife.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know Peter Elikin as a veteran trial lawyer, defense attorney,
author of multiple books. He's at Elekancriminal Defense Attorney dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Peter, you and I have sat many a time on.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
A dark set at Court TV and chill in and
on and on, and we are always shocked at crimes.
But I think as I was watching that engagement video,
I think I realized why I'm so angry and upset
about this. It reminds me so much of my fiancee Keith.
(15:58):
Not long after proposal, he was gunned down, including multiple
shots to the face the head, and everything just ended
for me, much less for him and his family.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
And to his mother's dying breath, Peter.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
They asked her at her bedside, Mom, what are you
thinking about?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
She said, just memories. I'm having memories of Keith.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Years later, decades later, Miss Griffin passed away thinking about Keith.
I mean, do you just take your hat off, your
defense hat off, just one moment. Do you ever just
look at somebody in court and think about the wake
of pain they leave behind. It goes on and on
(16:47):
for it for decades to come.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Yeah, and it's not just the immediate pain. They're still
crying twenty five thirty years later. I understand that, particularly
as you've described that. I've heard you describe Keith many times,
and so this young man is like the greatest person
that I've ever heard of in my life. He was
helping the homeless. He was a Navy lieutenant, still in
the National Navy Army lieutenant, still in the National Guard,
(17:12):
and he went the Christian retreats, and he was a
star in school, and he.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Didn't have an enemy in the world.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
And I think that's why when the police were first looking,
they were trying to say, okay, who would be shooting him?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And they couldn't make any connection. They couldn't see anybody,
so it is.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And then they had to just go with this guy
so angry over a thunder bender, and Peter, you have
a son, all right?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Look at this guy, this guy. Can I see a
picture of.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Kevin Okay, when he's smiling, he's got perfectly straight.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To look at him in his little suit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Somebody had to buy in that suit, get him all
dressed up, play for his pay for his orthodonics, get
him probably tutors and this and that to get him
to yell. I mean, this guy worked full time, even
to save money. He brings in You think you think
he was in the Rotzia for nothing. They help you,
(18:10):
They pay for your school. Right, Look at this, I mean, Peter,
we work so hard and pour in all our love,
all our energy, all our money, everything into our children.
You get him into a gratitude an ivy league and
you think, hey, oh I did it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's in he's gonna make it right.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then this, I mean, what this family must have
gone through is just wrenching.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
This is the heartbreaker of all time.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
As I said, I've never seen anybody who hit so
many great points in life and they say taking his
mother in and even their place to live and helping
the homeless, and you know on in the military back considerate.
I mean, this is like the best person in the world,
and it's just got all that everything that went into this.
(19:04):
And what could he have done in the future. I mean,
he was working for environmental things and you're working for
church things. What would have happened if he could have
had another sixty years of life.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Don't make me even more angry than I already am.
Peter Ellikin. So this is what we know so far.
At road rage.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Erupts into a point blank execution style and murder. But
what do some random shots and to an upscale on
New Haven, Connecticut neighborhood have to do with this?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (19:36):
Police in New Haven, Connecticut are surprised when a call
of shots fired ring out on a cold December eleventh
and a residential neighborhood. Five gunshots are reported and a
home is struck multiple times, but nobody is wounded. Police
find several forty five caliber shell casings at the scene.
Weeks later, a second shooting similar to the first takes
place on January fifteenth, Then a third shooting on February fifth,
(19:58):
and another the next day, Gary sixth. Nobody is injured
in the shootings, but police do find a common thread.
At each scene. Forty five caliber shell casings are recovered,
and at the last two shootings, a dark suv is
reported fleeing the scene.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So police ears prick up when they start piecing together, Hey,
some RANDO is shooting into these homes. And I'm pretty
sure that new Haven, Connecticut is where all a lot
of the rich people live and they don't take kindly
to people shooting into their homes. So that was investigated
(20:34):
out the ying yang even though no.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
One was harmed.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Forty five caliber shell casings, a dark suv new Haven, Connecticut,
not far from Kevin's murder. So some RANDO shooting into
windows is going.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
To be really hard to find because they're not really
connected to any of the victims.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
That or of brand makes it so hard to find
a perp when they don't have any direct connection to
the victim.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's like a needle in a haystack.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
That's exactly right, Nancy, the random shootings. Trying to piece
it together, it's hard because the only explanation you can
come up with at first is it's just a serial
shooter who doesn't care who his victims are. And that's
not helpful in an investigation because that doesn't produce any leads.
(21:31):
You have to be able to connect these incidents to
each other if you have any hope of solving the crime.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Really difficult and random shootings. So please find nothing in
Kevin's background. So they search back into.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The day of the shooting.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What happened that day? They had another dead and of
course he was an angel.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
On February sixth, Kevin Jeong and Zion Perry spend the
day outdoors, ice fishing, a catch a pickerel, and cook
dinner together at Perry's apartment in East Rock. Jeong leaves
after dinner just before eight thirty pm, and it's only
a couple of blocks from Perry's apartment when he is
rear ended by another vehicle.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
A railroad track and a series of shootings tied back
to the death of a Yale grad student. How and why.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Railroad tracks? What railroad tracks? What does that have to
do with Kevin getting gun down in a road race? Fit? Listen,
what are you doing back here?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Though? I just got each here accidentally? I got stuck.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is there any way to get stuck here.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Uh, the only thing I can do is call you
a tow truck.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fix. So this guy is stuck on.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Railroad tracks in the snow. But what if anything, does
that have to do with Kevin getting gunned down just
after he announces on Facebook he's engaged to Well, listen.
Speaker 14 (23:01):
From the security guard. That's Simmis Medal Management. I just
had somebody drive through my yard here. They didn't know
where they was going, so I had been chosen them
around the yard and they just pulled away in the
back off the property. Took a black minivan type of thing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So, Dave Matt, you're hearing security at Sim's Metal Management,
and we've got surveillance video of the black suv.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Driving around and around.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It looks like a video game within the I guess
it's the storage facility area of the metal management company.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And then he ends up somehow getting stuck on railroad tracks.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
What happened, Well, actually, it's a salvage metal operation going
on there. And here's the kick. It's near an interstate
through way, so they have a lot of people to
get lost. They miss their turn and we'll pull back
around into the south jarred area to turn around when
they're not quite sure where they're headed. So when he
calls when the security guard calls police, this is a
(24:07):
little bit different than what he has seen in the past.
And he tells them, Hey, they're out here driving around
through the lot, and he is describing how they have
now pulled to the back section of the lot.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And that's what.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Made him worried. You know, he's been flagging this cat
down all the way over the parking lot and calling
police to say that there is a car in the
parking lot. Not uncommon, but this one is a little different.
And that's where we've got the car in the snow
on the railroad track and stuck at the back of
this South Middle salvage yard.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Let's take a look at that body cam video again.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Look how calm and cool this guy is stuck?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What are you doing back here? Though? I just got
you here accidentally I got stuck.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Is there any ways you get stuck here?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
The only thing I can do is call you a
tow truck. Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Fix Er brandt adjoining us a veteran law enforcement with
the US Marshals and prolific author erv I wouldn't think
twice about this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Did you see his demeanor?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
He's totally calm and kill He's like, hey, can you
help me? I mean, you would expect anyone involved in
a crime to take off.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Running or at least look nervous. He's not even nervous, nothing,
super calm.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Yes, Nancy, It's very surprising that he could be facing
a law enforcement officer and be that calm about it
and offer up a reasonable explanation as to why he's there,
and then accept help from the officer and not say well,
I'm fine, officer, I can get out of this myself.
(25:46):
But to ask the officer for help then accept the
help is quite surprising in this case.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, guys, Right after this happens, a nine one all
comes in from a local Arby's.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Listen he can help you. Hello, I'm working at arby
here in North Havens.
Speaker 14 (26:09):
We found a gun and probably like.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Ten bucks is a.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Bullet.
Speaker 13 (26:16):
At eleven am, as Sergeant Mills is finishing his shift,
a call comes into police from an employee at Arby's.
The employee reports finding a bag with a gun and
bullets inside. Sergeant Mills stops by to check out the
call and seize the gun and bullets, but also in
the bag a yellow jacket, black briefcase, and a blue
bag where the massachuoset's logo.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Well, Dave Matt connect the dots for me.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So you've got pan stuck on the railroad tracks after
zipping around Metal Sheet Metal Company, and then a call
comes in from Arby's where they find a gun in
bullets just sitting outside. But what is the yellow jacket,
black brief case and blue bag with a Massachusetts logo.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
On it have to do with anything everything? Nancy, Those
items were actually seen in the dark colored suv con
has stuck on the railroad tracks, and it is witnessed
by Sergeant Mills of the North Haven Police Department when
he's there trying to help him get it off the track.
But you see the number of things inside the car
makes middle note. And then when the nine one one
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call comes in from the Arby's, they only talk about
a gun and ammunition. It only after Sergeant Mills goes
to the Arby's to seem, you know, exactly for himself
what they're seeing. He goes, wait a minute, that yellow jacket,
that blue bag, that black briefcase, those were all in
the dark suv that I saw last night. So he's
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the guy who ties this entire case together, Nancy, one
top witnessing a lot of evidence and tying it all together.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Mills, is he a detective as sergeant? What is he?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
He's a sergeant. He's a working officer and he had
been on patrol tonight before when the vehicle was stuck
on the tracks. And to be honest, Nancy, the guy's
on his way home, his shift is over, but when
the call comes in from the Arby's, it's like, on
my way, I'll check it out. They're apparently very short staff.
But anyway, he was on his way done for the
day when he stopped by the Arby's and that changed everything.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Do you ever wonder Peter ellikin veteran defense attorney in
this jurisdiction, Peter, I know you would never say this
in court because it's your job to attack police, but
I know secretly you think otherwise. Why is it, Peter,
that we always hear, oh, the cops did this, the
cops did that. They're horrible, they're demons, blah blah. Defund police.
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If this cop as Dave Mack pointed out, who's off work,
he's leaving.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
He goes, what a yellow jacket a bag with a
Massachusetts logo on it?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just saw that and this idiot's car stuck on
the railroad tracks. If he had not put that together,
we'd be up the creek without a battle right now.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Yeah, you know a lot of people misunderstand we criminal
defense attorneys do not hate the police.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I mean, he's not about.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You, Peter.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I'm not asking you about how misunderstood you are. I'm
talking about Mills. Focus on him, not on you.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
He did an extraordinary job here. It was basic police
work and be able to put two and two together,
and it was fortuitous. And he was the one police
officer there. It's North Haven, which is a different town.
It's next to New Haven, but it's home town. But
it could have been almost anybody going there and not
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having seen that car and that was stuck on the
tracks the night before, and so that was an incredible
bit of luck.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And this police.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Officer, look shot luck.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's police work, it's watching he's a professional observer, and
he remembers what a yellow jacket, a bag with a
Massachusetts logo on it, yes, and he puts that together.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Peter, are you sitting down right now?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I am okay, Well we may need to lay down
listen to this.
Speaker 13 (30:18):
The suv King Swan Pond stuck on the railroad tracks
was still its tow facility and police find out it's
been reported stolen from a car dealership in Malden, where
PWN lives. The dealership employee tells police that Pawn had
asked to borrow the car for a test drive and
never returned with the vehicle.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So the suv is stolen.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When you have a police departments homicide unit is looking
for mister King Swan Pan Dat birth of four sixteen
nineteen ninety one. His name is spelled Qi n x
u An.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Last name Pam again.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Data birth for sixteen nineteen ninety one. Mister Pong was
the last seen at the Western Hotel to a one
Washington Avenue in North Haven. His last known address is
one thirty one correction one ninety three Clifton Street in Malden, Massachusetts.
We know that mister Pong is a graduate of MIT
and has an affiliation with that university. I am asking
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that the public knows that mister Pong should be considered
armed and dangerous and that he that extreme caution should
be used if you come in contact with this individual.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Pond is an m I graduate.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You are just hearing him in Police Department Homicide Unit
putting the APB al points bulletin on Pond. And that's
from our friends at Fox sixty one. How can somebody
be so brilliant?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
This guy is an AI artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Guru deep deep in AI research? Did he what he
thought was the perfect murder? And did he use AI
to plan the murder? Will one tiny mistake be his undoing?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So still, what possible motive would there be from a
brilliant MIT artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Guru to track down and gun down described in Sunshine
Yale Grad?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Could it be a secret obsession in.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
An effort to try and find out more about King Shuangpong?
Investigators go online to find any connection The MIT grad
student with an expertise in AI could have to Kevin Chang.
Finding no connection between Pon and Xiang, detectives find Jiang's fiance,
Zion Perry, is a Facebook friend of Pon's. They meted
a Christian group when Perry attended MIT as an undergrad.
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Nothing more than an acquaintance. When he graduated from MIT,
Pawn reached out and asked to video chat. Perry politely refused,
and there has been no other contact.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Okay, let me understand this crime stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Dave mac Zion is questioned, and she never had a
romantic relationship at all with Pan. So as police are digging, digging, digging,
what exactly do they find?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
They find that, yes, Zion Perry was an acquaintance upon
they met when she was an undergrad at MIT, but
it was nothing more than a casual acquaintance where she
invited him to a Christian get together on campus at MIT,
but she was not involved with him. She doesn't even
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call her him a friend. Their friendship was on Facebook.
They were Facebook friend meaning he would see her post,
but she had no interest in him romantically speaking. As
a matter of fact, when she graduated, Pawn reached out
and asked if he could do a video check call
with her to congratulate her, and she politely refused. That
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was their relationship. That was all there was.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Peter Ellikin, you have dealt with stalking cases and sex
obsession cases.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There was no such thing here. There was never sex.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
There was never a relationious sex relationship, not even a
dating relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But we can't ignore Peter that they Zion and Kevin
announced their engagement and post the video we keep seeing, let's.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
See that again.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We know that was posted. Then a few days later,
Kevin is gone down dead. How can this video be
the catalyst for a murder?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Or can it?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
One thing we've learned is that if if this guy
is a brilliant PhD candidate at MIT of all places,
and we've we've learned that the crimes kind of all
spectrums of society.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
It's not just poor people.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
We've seen doctors who commit murdered, lawyers who commit murders,
college professors. And this may be another case where he
may be a brilliant in one area and yet somehow
there's some sort of emotional.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Pay here.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, they didn't even have sex, they didn't even kiss nothing,
they didn't even hold hands.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
She invited him to some Christian get together. That's it,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
How can you get a sex obsession or an obsession
from that?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
It is rational, there's no connection, there's nothing leading on.
There's really nothing to see there which would if I
was his defense lawyer.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
One of the first things I'd look.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Into, which would not necessarily go anywhere, I'd look into
his competency to see what kind of mental health he's
in place.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're desperate, may be nothing there, grasping straws. That's true,
very bad as a defense.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Attorney when you have to come up with something like that.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
That would be because I couldn't figure out anything else.
It would be so irrational and crazy that I'd tell
I got to look into that, even if it leads
me nowhere.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
But that is grasping at straws.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Skeptical of the story Queen John Pond's parents tell them,
Investigators believe the parents are the key to finding their son.
The Pawn family has millions of dollars in assets in Shanghai,
and financial records show Pon's parents have been making large
cash withdrawals. Investigators are concerned that Pond's parents are going
to try to get the cash to their son so
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he has the means to flee the country.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So Dave mac now the parents are under surveillance, and
the mom is caught on hotel lobby surveillance borrowing the
phone of an employee using the employee's cell phone and
then immediately deleting the number.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's not suspicious. Okay, what happened.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
That's exactly what happened, Nancy. They're following and watching a
thing is she did it in the middle of the
night or the early morning hours when she kind of
splinked her way down to the hotel clerk, he at
the front desk, and she uses his phone, makes the
call and thinks when she deletes it, she's fine. But
US Marshalls, now they're better than that, and they're able
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to trace that phone call. They won't tell it us how,
They won't say what they did. They just said, yeah,
they got that deleted phone call, and it traces right
back to Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Of all places.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Erv Brandt, you have spent your career chasing down criminals
all over the world like a legally sanctioned bounty hunter.
So what did US Marshalls go through trying to find
pan Nancy.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
The fugitive when he's on the run has to have
a support network, and the sport network is normally made
up of people that the fugitive trust the most, and
in most cases that's going to be family. So the
Marshall Service focused on the family, and that's exactly what happened.
By surveillance. They watched and watched and watched, and finally
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caught a break in the case that led them to
where the fugitive was hiding in Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So all the way to Montgomery, Alabama is very reminiscent
of Scott Peterson, who was found with thousands of dollars
of cash. He had changed his appearance, dyeing his hair
and growing the goateee. He had his brothers fake ID.
He had his brother's ID and he was using it
as a fake. He had tons of viagra, camping equipment
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and water filtration system. And when Pan is found in Montgomery,
Alabama in a boarding house, he has twenty thousand dollars
worth cash, multiple communication devices, seven SIM cards.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And more.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This guy on the run, including a fake passport cheap
ready to get that. That said, the one thing that
an AI guru artificial intelligence couldn't foresee is his mother.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
The involvement of his.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Mother, because Peter Ellicott, every time anybody goes missing, we
have a bond for for tour or there's a future
on the run.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Where's the first place you look, Peter?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
They usually it's so silly.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
But they usually head for home is the first place,
or with close friends. But they usually go to some
place really familiator and like the people.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
From every time.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I would have a bond forfeiture, a whole calendar, not
a plan arrayment, not a trial calendar, a bond forfeiture calendar.
I turn around and say, go look under mommy's bed
right now, I'm striking a jury. Sure enough, they go
look under mommy's bed or in the closet, and there
would be the purp hiding out at mommy's Even AI can't.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Fathom what mommy is going to do. And here Mommy
called Pan.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I want you to speaking of mothers, I want you
to hear the victim's mother, Linda lou.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Ta give me a lot of joy.
Speaker 12 (40:43):
He's they so the full warmer boy picking of me,
and I missed him.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's my friends.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
At forty eight hours after Kevin's mother spoke, the judge
brings down the ham Listen.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I wanted to address Pan specifically.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
Although your sentence is far less than you deserve, there
is also mercy.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
May God have mercy on you, and may He have
mercy on all of us.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Seems like everybody in the core room, is all about mercy.
Pan of course can seek mercy and seek redemption, but
it's my theory he is better set to do that
in the penitentiary. We wait as justice un false, and
fully expect Pan to contest his plea. Nancy Gray signing off,
(41:42):
goodbye friend.
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Did an AI artificial intelligence guru plan the perfect murder
of a Yale grass student just after his marriage proposal.
I'm Macy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
A Yale grad student, newly engaged, gunned down next to
his damaged prius. Was it road rage or it targeted attack?
Who killed Kevin giong road rage?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Seemingly the motive? Listen.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
I can't speak to the intent. I can't speak to motive.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
What I can tell you is that there was an accident,
and we are exploring whether or not that was material
in terms of the motive under for which he shot him. Again,
it's too early to talk about that, and I can't
share that, but what we can say is that we're
exploring absolutely every angle, including the fact that there was
an accident for seated the encounter.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
One week after Kevin Jeong's engagement to the love of
his life. Police are now informing his mother and his fiancee,
Zion Perry, of his tragic death. Detectives say the women
are distraughts and can't understand why anyone would have killed
Kevin Jeong.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I guess so distraught, and this guy, the shooting victim,
scrubbed in sunshine. Number one, devout Christian, number two, brilliant,
studying mercury levels in fish as part of his Yale
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graduate degree. I mean, comes to the parents, come to
this country, work their fingers to the bone, get their
son into Yale University, the IVY League, Yelle, No, their
dreams come true. That's the lottery ticket, the golden ticket. Right,
(01:58):
you get into an IVY league. He's doing great, he
gets engaged. In fact, the money is so tight. He
lives with his mother. You were earlier hearing sound from
our friends at Fox sixty one, the mom that he
lives with.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
The fiance I think he met at.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Church, completely distraught what happened? And then I just here
police refer to an accident. Wait a minute, Dave mac
joining me, Crime online dot com investigative reporter, accident accident.
How many times was the victim shot at point blank range?
(02:42):
Let me tell you point blank and we'll go to
an expert on this. Because the victim's face had soot
common vernacular gunshot residue on his face that only comes
from a point blank shooting.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's no accident, Dave mack.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
No, that's the perpetrator standing over the prone body and
pulling the trigger eight times in the face. That's what happened, Nancy.
There was no road rage accident. There was a whole
lot more going on in this case.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Joining me right now, longtime colleague, veteran defense attorney in
this jurisdiction, Boston based lawyer Peter Ellikin, author of an
incredible book, Super Predators, the Demonization of our children by
the law, and the tough on crime myth. Disagree with
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all of that. Peter Ellikin, you and I have argued
about a lot of cases. I've prosecuted a lot. You
have defended a lot in court. But wouldn't you agree
shooting somebody eight times, including in the face, at point
blank rage, at point blank range. I don't know that
rage actually describes that eight times over a fender bender.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I agree that that would be my first clue that
it's a personal thing.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Usually when people do, I guess you call that overkill.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
You don't just shoot somebody to kill them, but you
keep shooting again and again and again. At that point
you say, gee, this must be personal. It's not just
somebody bumped into somebody's car, particularly when we're there and
said the shooting started instantly after the bumping of the car.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Elkan, you all represented roads rade, road ragers. Correct, you have,
and they have the defense of voluntary manslaughter.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Now do I think that's legitimate?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, because voluntary manslaughter is typically in the heat of passion.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And I don't know why. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
When you went to law school, they always use the
example a man comes home and finds his wife in
bed with another man. Why is it always her? Why
is she always the cheater? Because the law professor is
a man.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's why. That's another can of worms.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Peter ellikin what kind of rage or wild anger, boiling
blood would get you a manslaughter as opposed to murder?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
One?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
I think that if it's in the heat of passion,
the person didn't plan on hurting anybody, The players didn't
plan on killing anybody, suddenly snaps and in a few
seconds just kind of blows up and maybe even ten
seconds later.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Says, oh my gosh, what did I do?
Speaker 8 (05:26):
That would be a heat of passion as opposed to
you know, another kind of intentional enough, and I could
see why the police if they arrive on the scene.
The first time they see there was an accident, somebody's dead,
that might be their first instinct to look into.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That, to see if it was a road rage. But
certainly they.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Would, didn't You just say that the person would commit
the act shooting, although I mean eight gunshot wounds, including
to the face, but then immediately regret the day. This
guy didn't come back, He drove off, He didn't come
back to try to save Kevin. He didn't come back
to check on him, He didn't call an ambulance, nothing.
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So that defense is out the window. What did a
witness say? Listen?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
A witness says she looks out her window after hearing
the gunshots and sees the shooter standing over Young, who
was already down on the ground in the street. The
gunman fires additional shots at close range. Detectives at the
scene recognized Jeong has the appearance of stippling on his face,
something that can only happen from being shot at close range.
New Haven homicide Detective David Zorweski believes the evidence of
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close range gunfire is indicative of something more than a
random shooting or even a case.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Of road rage.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Let me go straight out to renowned board certify forensic pathologists,
consultant medical examiner, doctor Eric Essen, doctor Ason, thank you
for being with us. Explain and regular people talk, okay,
straight vernacular.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
What is stipling?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
How do we know these bullets were fired at close rings?
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Yes, I get asked this in court all the time.
Stippling also known as gunpowder tattooing. Basically, when a gun
is fired, you have the bullet that leaves the gun,
but also you have other stuff that leaves the gun.
And so you have the burned gunpowder, which causes soot
deposition onto the skin or on the target, soot similar
to what you see in like a fireplace. And then
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you have what's known as the gunpowder that did not
burn up in the shooting, and so that leaves the barrel.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And if the.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
Gun is close enough to the target, those unburned gunpowder
particles are going to strike and a braid or scratch
the skin and leave these red purple dots on the
skin known as stippling or gunpowder tattooing. And when I
see that at autopsy, basically I know that the gun
was within probably about two to two and a half
feet from the body. No further away than two to
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two and a half feet, but it was not touching
the skin. It was not more than two and a
half feet away. It was up close and personal, within
inches from the body. So up close and personal or
point blank is what was referred to earlier on.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Doctor Eric Aason. Now we know that typically gunshot residue
is a fine mist spray like baby powder. Okay, I've
used that in court as a demonstrative, can travel around
thirty six inches. Okay, yes, which means that's why if
you can catch the perp, you immediately want to do
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a GSR gunshot residue.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Shot on their hands, their arms.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Their wrists, in between their fingers, and it's very delicate
like baby powder.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you just do this, it's gone much less.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
If you let the purpm go to the bathroom and
they wash their hands over, you're not going to get
that now. Stippling to my understanding, as you said, tattooing
is different from just a gunshot residue, which has a
fine mist spray up to thirty six inches. Stippling or
tattooing is point blank. In other words, to my understanding,
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you're the expert. Of course, the gun is practically if
not touching the skin.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Explain, inches away from the body is what we have.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
Because the further you pull the gun away, the less
likely the gunpowder is going to have enough energy or
velocity to even reach the target. And so you have
to be with inches away. As soon as you get
to two and a half feet, the stippling or the gunpowder,
the unburned gunpowder is no longer going to have enough
energy to reach the target and it's just going to
fall off into the environment. And the other thing I
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need to mention is that the gunpowder tattooing, these are abrasions,
so you can't rub them off at autopsy. We wash
the body and they cannot be scrubbed off. They're permanent.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
On those counts. They are the cuts, right, scratches actually
scratches like a tattoo. You get cut and the ink
is injected. I mean, you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
IRV Bran IRV Brandt, US Marshalls Service, chief inspector all
over the world trying to hunt down criminals, author of
a series of books on Amazon about Jack Solo. Who
could that be patterned after IRV? Let's get down to it.
Why do I keep talking about stippling and gunshot residue.
(10:23):
Because this perp goes over to Kevin Right, the yl
grad student, the one of devoting his life to helping people,
the one that just announced his engagement on Facebook, that
one that lives with his mother and supports her. That
one goes over to him, gets down on the ground
(10:46):
to this guy and holds the bullet to his head,
to his face and shoots him eight times. Now, I
got a lot of names for this perp, but it's
nothing I could say on air.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
What about it?
Speaker 10 (11:02):
Brant Nancy, you're exactly right when you're describing a road rage,
someone getting out of the car, losing their minds, fighting,
just fire and shots wildly. Is completely different from shooting
someone then going up to the body and taking careful
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aim and shooting people, shooting that person in the head
to make sure that they're dead. So you're exactly right
with that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
He orv Look at your screen, Look at your screen.
There he is proposing to Zion. Hey, Dave mac do
they meet in charch Neither here nor there. I'm just
trying to remember where these two met.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
They actually met on a weekend Christian retreat.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We know what the witness says, but listen to what
cops say.
Speaker 11 (11:51):
At eight thirty pm on February sixth, police responded to
the scene of a shooting in New Haven. When they arrived,
they find Jiang deceased in the street. About a hundred
fet away was his car, a Prius. Forty five caliber
casings were also found at the scene, and it appears
Xiang had been shot multiple times.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Police get surveillance video from a nearby home. Playing the video,
they can hear the sound of a car crash before
Kevin Jong's Prius enters the frame. His car is followed
closely by a dark suv. Jiong's Prius comes to a
stop while the suv moves in reverse. Jeong exits his
car and is walking toward the suv as he walks
out of the frame on the surveillance video. Seconds after
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Jeong is not visible on the video, eight shots and
a scream can be heard on the recording.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Crime stores with Nancy Grace, who murdered a twenty six
year old rising star, a Yale grad student who had
just gotten engaged to be married, and why why would
anyone pick this target when you don't know where to go?
(13:06):
When you hit a dead end, and an investigation you
go back to the victim.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Are there any clues in Kevin's background?
Speaker 11 (13:17):
Kevin Giong is a twenty six year old overachiever. He
is a graduate student at Yale School of Environment, where
he is a second year master's student conducting research on
mercury levels in fish. He is a former lieutenant in
the US Army National Guard, serving in the one hundred
and eighteenth Multifunctional Medical Battalion of the Connecticut National Guard.
(13:38):
He brings his mother from Seattle to live with him
and volunteers to work with the homeless. Deeply religious, Kevin
has just proposed to the love of his life, Zion Perry,
who posts a video of the proposal on our Facebook page.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining us renowned clinical psychologists, author
of Nervous Energy Harness The Power of Your Anxiety. As
I was watching that video, the dichotomy, you know this
was posted just days before he was gunned down like
a dog in the street.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
The dichotomy of that happy moment.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Compared to the juxtaposition of him lying there in the
snow in the shadows of Yale University's family fought so
hard to just advance him, help him, help him make
his dreams come true when they were all coming true.
That harsh dichotomy has a lot to take in, doctor Chloe.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, Nancy, it certainly is.
Speaker 12 (15:01):
As a clinical psychologist, obviously I see a lot of
hard things, but just seeing that simple, joyful moment, knowing
what's about to happen, is heartbreaking, not only as a psychologist,
but frankly as a mother. I really grieve for his
parents and obviously for her as well. I see this
as a mother and as a wife.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know Peter Elikin as a veteran trial lawyer, defense attorney,
author of multiple books. He's at Elekancriminal Defense Attorney dot com.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Peter, you and I have sat many a time on.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
A dark set at Court TV and chill in and
on and on, and we are always shocked at crimes.
But I think as I was watching that engagement video,
I think I realized why I'm so angry and upset
about this. It reminds me so much of my fiancee Keith.
(15:58):
Not long after proposal, he was gunned down, including multiple
shots to the face the head, and everything just ended
for me, much less for him and his family.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
And to his mother's dying breath, Peter.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
They asked her at her bedside, Mom, what are you
thinking about?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
She said, just memories. I'm having memories of Keith.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Years later, decades later, Miss Griffin passed away thinking about Keith.
I mean, do you just take your hat off, your
defense hat off, just one moment. Do you ever just
look at somebody in court and think about the wake
of pain they leave behind. It goes on and on
(16:47):
for it for decades to come.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Yeah, and it's not just the immediate pain. They're still
crying twenty five thirty years later. I understand that, particularly
as you've described that. I've heard you describe Keith many times,
and so this young man is like the greatest person
that I've ever heard of in my life. He was
helping the homeless. He was a Navy lieutenant, still in
the National Navy Army lieutenant, still in the National Guard,
(17:12):
and he went the Christian retreats, and he was a
star in school, and he.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Didn't have an enemy in the world.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
And I think that's why when the police were first looking,
they were trying to say, okay, who would be shooting him?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
And they couldn't make any connection. They couldn't see anybody,
so it is.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
And then they had to just go with this guy
so angry over a thunder bender, and Peter, you have
a son, all right?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Look at this guy, this guy. Can I see a
picture of.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Kevin Okay, when he's smiling, he's got perfectly straight.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To look at him in his little suit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Somebody had to buy in that suit, get him all
dressed up, play for his pay for his orthodonics, get
him probably tutors and this and that to get him
to yell. I mean, this guy worked full time, even
to save money. He brings in You think you think
he was in the Rotzia for nothing. They help you,
(18:10):
They pay for your school. Right, Look at this, I mean, Peter,
we work so hard and pour in all our love,
all our energy, all our money, everything into our children.
You get him into a gratitude an ivy league and
you think, hey, oh I did it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's in he's gonna make it right.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And then this, I mean, what this family must have
gone through is just wrenching.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
This is the heartbreaker of all time.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
As I said, I've never seen anybody who hit so
many great points in life and they say taking his
mother in and even their place to live and helping
the homeless, and you know on in the military back considerate.
I mean, this is like the best person in the world,
and it's just got all that everything that went into this.
(19:04):
And what could he have done in the future. I mean,
he was working for environmental things and you're working for
church things. What would have happened if he could have
had another sixty years of life.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Don't make me even more angry than I already am.
Peter Ellikin. So this is what we know so far.
At road rage.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Erupts into a point blank execution style and murder. But
what do some random shots and to an upscale on
New Haven, Connecticut neighborhood have to do with this?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Listen?
Speaker 11 (19:36):
Police in New Haven, Connecticut are surprised when a call
of shots fired ring out on a cold December eleventh
and a residential neighborhood. Five gunshots are reported and a
home is struck multiple times, but nobody is wounded. Police
find several forty five caliber shell casings at the scene.
Weeks later, a second shooting similar to the first takes
place on January fifteenth, Then a third shooting on February fifth,
(19:58):
and another the next day, Gary sixth. Nobody is injured
in the shootings, but police do find a common thread.
At each scene. Forty five caliber shell casings are recovered,
and at the last two shootings, a dark suv is
reported fleeing the scene.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So police ears prick up when they start piecing together, Hey,
some RANDO is shooting into these homes. And I'm pretty
sure that new Haven, Connecticut is where all a lot
of the rich people live and they don't take kindly
to people shooting into their homes. So that was investigated
(20:34):
out the ying yang even though no.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
One was harmed.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Forty five caliber shell casings, a dark suv new Haven, Connecticut,
not far from Kevin's murder. So some RANDO shooting into
windows is going.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
To be really hard to find because they're not really
connected to any of the victims.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
That or of brand makes it so hard to find
a perp when they don't have any direct connection to
the victim.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's like a needle in a haystack.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
That's exactly right, Nancy, the random shootings. Trying to piece
it together, it's hard because the only explanation you can
come up with at first is it's just a serial
shooter who doesn't care who his victims are. And that's
not helpful in an investigation because that doesn't produce any leads.
(21:31):
You have to be able to connect these incidents to
each other if you have any hope of solving the crime.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Really difficult and random shootings. So please find nothing in
Kevin's background. So they search back into.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
The day of the shooting.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
What happened that day? They had another dead and of
course he was an angel.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Listen.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
On February sixth, Kevin Jeong and Zion Perry spend the
day outdoors, ice fishing, a catch a pickerel, and cook
dinner together at Perry's apartment in East Rock. Jeong leaves
after dinner just before eight thirty pm, and it's only
a couple of blocks from Perry's apartment when he is
rear ended by another vehicle.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
A railroad track and a series of shootings tied back
to the death of a Yale grad student. How and why.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Railroad tracks? What railroad tracks? What does that have to
do with Kevin getting gun down in a road race? Fit? Listen,
what are you doing back here?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Though? I just got each here accidentally? I got stuck.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is there any way to get stuck here.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Uh, the only thing I can do is call you
a tow truck.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Fix. So this guy is stuck on.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Railroad tracks in the snow. But what if anything, does
that have to do with Kevin getting gunned down just
after he announces on Facebook he's engaged to Well, listen.
Speaker 14 (23:01):
From the security guard. That's Simmis Medal Management. I just
had somebody drive through my yard here. They didn't know
where they was going, so I had been chosen them
around the yard and they just pulled away in the
back off the property. Took a black minivan type of thing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So, Dave Matt, you're hearing security at Sim's Metal Management,
and we've got surveillance video of the black suv.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Driving around and around.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
It looks like a video game within the I guess
it's the storage facility area of the metal management company.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
And then he ends up somehow getting stuck on railroad tracks.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
What happened, Well, actually, it's a salvage metal operation going
on there. And here's the kick. It's near an interstate
through way, so they have a lot of people to
get lost. They miss their turn and we'll pull back
around into the south jarred area to turn around when
they're not quite sure where they're headed. So when he
calls when the security guard calls police, this is a
(24:07):
little bit different than what he has seen in the past.
And he tells them, Hey, they're out here driving around
through the lot, and he is describing how they have
now pulled to the back section of the lot.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And that's what.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Made him worried. You know, he's been flagging this cat
down all the way over the parking lot and calling
police to say that there is a car in the
parking lot. Not uncommon, but this one is a little different.
And that's where we've got the car in the snow
on the railroad track and stuck at the back of
this South Middle salvage yard.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Let's take a look at that body cam video again.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Look how calm and cool this guy is stuck?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What are you doing back here? Though? I just got
you here accidentally I got stuck.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Is there any ways you get stuck here?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
The only thing I can do is call you a
tow truck. Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Fix Er brandt adjoining us a veteran law enforcement with
the US Marshals and prolific author erv I wouldn't think
twice about this guy.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Did you see his demeanor?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
He's totally calm and kill He's like, hey, can you
help me? I mean, you would expect anyone involved in
a crime to take off.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Running or at least look nervous. He's not even nervous, nothing,
super calm.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Yes, Nancy, It's very surprising that he could be facing
a law enforcement officer and be that calm about it
and offer up a reasonable explanation as to why he's there,
and then accept help from the officer and not say well,
I'm fine, officer, I can get out of this myself.
(25:46):
But to ask the officer for help then accept the
help is quite surprising in this case.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Okay, guys, Right after this happens, a nine one all
comes in from a local Arby's.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Listen he can help you. Hello, I'm working at arby
here in North Havens.
Speaker 14 (26:09):
We found a gun and probably like.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Ten bucks is a.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Bullet.
Speaker 13 (26:16):
At eleven am, as Sergeant Mills is finishing his shift,
a call comes into police from an employee at Arby's.
The employee reports finding a bag with a gun and
bullets inside. Sergeant Mills stops by to check out the
call and seize the gun and bullets, but also in
the bag a yellow jacket, black briefcase, and a blue
bag where the massachuoset's logo.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Well, Dave Matt connect the dots for me.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So you've got pan stuck on the railroad tracks after
zipping around Metal Sheet Metal Company, and then a call
comes in from Arby's where they find a gun in
bullets just sitting outside. But what is the yellow jacket,
black brief case and blue bag with a Massachusetts logo.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
On it have to do with anything everything? Nancy, Those
items were actually seen in the dark colored suv con
has stuck on the railroad tracks, and it is witnessed
by Sergeant Mills of the North Haven Police Department when
he's there trying to help him get it off the track.
But you see the number of things inside the car
makes middle note. And then when the nine one one
(27:24):
call comes in from the Arby's, they only talk about
a gun and ammunition. It only after Sergeant Mills goes
to the Arby's to seem, you know, exactly for himself
what they're seeing. He goes, wait a minute, that yellow jacket,
that blue bag, that black briefcase, those were all in
the dark suv that I saw last night. So he's
(27:46):
the guy who ties this entire case together, Nancy, one
top witnessing a lot of evidence and tying it all together.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Mills, is he a detective as sergeant? What is he?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
He's a sergeant. He's a working officer and he had
been on patrol tonight before when the vehicle was stuck
on the tracks. And to be honest, Nancy, the guy's
on his way home, his shift is over, but when
the call comes in from the Arby's, it's like, on
my way, I'll check it out. They're apparently very short staff.
But anyway, he was on his way done for the
day when he stopped by the Arby's and that changed everything.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Do you ever wonder Peter ellikin veteran defense attorney in
this jurisdiction, Peter, I know you would never say this
in court because it's your job to attack police, but
I know secretly you think otherwise. Why is it, Peter,
that we always hear, oh, the cops did this, the
cops did that. They're horrible, they're demons, blah blah. Defund police.
(28:42):
If this cop as Dave Mack pointed out, who's off work,
he's leaving.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
He goes, what a yellow jacket a bag with a
Massachusetts logo on it?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I just saw that and this idiot's car stuck on
the railroad tracks. If he had not put that together,
we'd be up the creek without a battle right now.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
Yeah, you know a lot of people misunderstand we criminal
defense attorneys do not hate the police.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I mean, he's not about.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You, Peter.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
I'm not asking you about how misunderstood you are. I'm
talking about Mills. Focus on him, not on you.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
He did an extraordinary job here. It was basic police
work and be able to put two and two together,
and it was fortuitous. And he was the one police
officer there. It's North Haven, which is a different town.
It's next to New Haven, but it's home town. But
it could have been almost anybody going there and not
(29:40):
having seen that car and that was stuck on the
tracks the night before, and so that was an incredible
bit of luck.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And this police.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Officer, look shot luck.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's police work, it's watching he's a professional observer, and
he remembers what a yellow jacket, a bag with a
Massachusetts logo on it, yes, and he puts that together.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Peter, are you sitting down right now?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I am okay, Well we may need to lay down
listen to this.
Speaker 13 (30:18):
The suv King Swan Pond stuck on the railroad tracks
was still its tow facility and police find out it's
been reported stolen from a car dealership in Malden, where
PWN lives. The dealership employee tells police that Pawn had
asked to borrow the car for a test drive and
never returned with the vehicle.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So the suv is stolen.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
When you have a police departments homicide unit is looking
for mister King Swan Pan Dat birth of four sixteen
nineteen ninety one. His name is spelled Qi n x
u An.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Last name Pam again.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Data birth for sixteen nineteen ninety one. Mister Pong was
the last seen at the Western Hotel to a one
Washington Avenue in North Haven. His last known address is
one thirty one correction one ninety three Clifton Street in Malden, Massachusetts.
We know that mister Pong is a graduate of MIT
and has an affiliation with that university. I am asking
(31:20):
that the public knows that mister Pong should be considered
armed and dangerous and that he that extreme caution should
be used if you come in contact with this individual.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Pond is an m I graduate.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You are just hearing him in Police Department Homicide Unit
putting the APB al points bulletin on Pond. And that's
from our friends at Fox sixty one. How can somebody
be so brilliant?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
This guy is an AI artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Guru deep deep in AI research? Did he what he
thought was the perfect murder? And did he use AI
to plan the murder? Will one tiny mistake be his undoing?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So still, what possible motive would there be from a
brilliant MIT artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Guru to track down and gun down described in Sunshine
Yale Grad?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Could it be a secret obsession in.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
An effort to try and find out more about King Shuangpong?
Investigators go online to find any connection The MIT grad
student with an expertise in AI could have to Kevin Chang.
Finding no connection between Pon and Xiang, detectives find Jiang's fiance,
Zion Perry, is a Facebook friend of Pon's. They meted
a Christian group when Perry attended MIT as an undergrad.
(32:58):
Nothing more than an acquaintance. When he graduated from MIT,
Pawn reached out and asked to video chat. Perry politely refused,
and there has been no other contact.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Okay, let me understand this crime stores with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Dave mac Zion is questioned, and she never had a
romantic relationship at all with Pan. So as police are digging, digging, digging,
what exactly do they find?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
They find that, yes, Zion Perry was an acquaintance upon
they met when she was an undergrad at MIT, but
it was nothing more than a casual acquaintance where she
invited him to a Christian get together on campus at MIT,
but she was not involved with him. She doesn't even
(34:01):
call her him a friend. Their friendship was on Facebook.
They were Facebook friend meaning he would see her post,
but she had no interest in him romantically speaking. As
a matter of fact, when she graduated, Pawn reached out
and asked if he could do a video check call
with her to congratulate her, and she politely refused. That
(34:24):
was their relationship. That was all there was.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Peter Ellikin, you have dealt with stalking cases and sex
obsession cases.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
There was no such thing here. There was never sex.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
There was never a relationious sex relationship, not even a
dating relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
But we can't ignore Peter that they Zion and Kevin
announced their engagement and post the video we keep seeing, let's.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
See that again.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
We know that was posted. Then a few days later,
Kevin is gone down dead. How can this video be
the catalyst for a murder?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Or can it?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
One thing we've learned is that if if this guy
is a brilliant PhD candidate at MIT of all places,
and we've we've learned that the crimes kind of all
spectrums of society.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
It's not just poor people.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
We've seen doctors who commit murdered, lawyers who commit murders,
college professors. And this may be another case where he
may be a brilliant in one area and yet somehow
there's some sort of emotional.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Pay here.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, they didn't even have sex, they didn't even kiss nothing,
they didn't even hold hands.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
She invited him to some Christian get together. That's it,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
How can you get a sex obsession or an obsession
from that?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
It is rational, there's no connection, there's nothing leading on.
There's really nothing to see there which would if I
was his defense lawyer.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
One of the first things I'd look.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Into, which would not necessarily go anywhere, I'd look into
his competency to see what kind of mental health he's
in place.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You're desperate, may be nothing there, grasping straws. That's true,
very bad as a defense.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Attorney when you have to come up with something like that.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
That would be because I couldn't figure out anything else.
It would be so irrational and crazy that I'd tell
I got to look into that, even if it leads
me nowhere.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
But that is grasping at straws.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Skeptical of the story Queen John Pond's parents tell them,
Investigators believe the parents are the key to finding their son.
The Pawn family has millions of dollars in assets in Shanghai,
and financial records show Pon's parents have been making large
cash withdrawals. Investigators are concerned that Pond's parents are going
to try to get the cash to their son so
(36:56):
he has the means to flee the country.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
So Dave mac now the parents are under surveillance, and
the mom is caught on hotel lobby surveillance borrowing the
phone of an employee using the employee's cell phone and
then immediately deleting the number.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's not suspicious. Okay, what happened.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
That's exactly what happened, Nancy. They're following and watching a
thing is she did it in the middle of the
night or the early morning hours when she kind of
splinked her way down to the hotel clerk, he at
the front desk, and she uses his phone, makes the
call and thinks when she deletes it, she's fine. But
US Marshalls, now they're better than that, and they're able
(37:38):
to trace that phone call. They won't tell it us how,
They won't say what they did. They just said, yeah,
they got that deleted phone call, and it traces right
back to Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Of all places.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Erv Brandt, you have spent your career chasing down criminals
all over the world like a legally sanctioned bounty hunter.
So what did US Marshalls go through trying to find
pan Nancy.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
The fugitive when he's on the run has to have
a support network, and the sport network is normally made
up of people that the fugitive trust the most, and
in most cases that's going to be family. So the
Marshall Service focused on the family, and that's exactly what happened.
By surveillance. They watched and watched and watched, and finally
(38:30):
caught a break in the case that led them to
where the fugitive was hiding in Montgomery, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So all the way to Montgomery, Alabama is very reminiscent
of Scott Peterson, who was found with thousands of dollars
of cash. He had changed his appearance, dyeing his hair
and growing the goateee. He had his brothers fake ID.
He had his brother's ID and he was using it
as a fake. He had tons of viagra, camping equipment
(38:58):
and water filtration system. And when Pan is found in Montgomery,
Alabama in a boarding house, he has twenty thousand dollars
worth cash, multiple communication devices, seven SIM cards.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And more.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This guy on the run, including a fake passport cheap
ready to get that. That said, the one thing that
an AI guru artificial intelligence couldn't foresee is his mother.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
The involvement of his.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Mother, because Peter Ellicott, every time anybody goes missing, we
have a bond for for tour or there's a future
on the run.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Where's the first place you look, Peter?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
They usually it's so silly.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
But they usually head for home is the first place,
or with close friends. But they usually go to some
place really familiator and like the people.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
From every time.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I would have a bond forfeiture, a whole calendar, not
a plan arrayment, not a trial calendar, a bond forfeiture calendar.
I turn around and say, go look under mommy's bed
right now, I'm striking a jury. Sure enough, they go
look under mommy's bed or in the closet, and there
would be the purp hiding out at mommy's Even AI can't.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Fathom what mommy is going to do. And here Mommy
called Pan.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
I want you to speaking of mothers, I want you
to hear the victim's mother, Linda lou.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Ta give me a lot of joy.
Speaker 12 (40:43):
He's they so the full warmer boy picking of me,
and I missed him.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's my friends.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
At forty eight hours after Kevin's mother spoke, the judge
brings down the ham Listen.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
I wanted to address Pan specifically.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
Although your sentence is far less than you deserve, there
is also mercy.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
May God have mercy on you, and may He have
mercy on all of us.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Seems like everybody in the core room, is all about mercy.
Pan of course can seek mercy and seek redemption, but
it's my theory he is better set to do that
in the penitentiary. We wait as justice un false, and
fully expect Pan to contest his plea. Nancy Gray signing off,
(41:42):
goodbye friend.
Host
Nancy Grace
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