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February 6, 2025 42 mins

Sean “Diddy” Combs reportedly rushed to the hospital hours after prosecutors filed a superseding indictment in his federal racketeering case.

The disgraced rap mogul is now accused of criminal activity spanning two decades and of sex trafficking two additional victims in addition to ex-girlfriend Cassie Ventura. Alongside the amended indictment, more alleged victims have come forward in lawsuits, claiming sexual assault at the hands of Combs.

Combs was transported from the Metropolitan Detention Center to Brooklyn Hospital Center under the cover of darkness to avoid whispers and speculation from other inmates and prison staff. He underwent an MRI but did not require an overnight stay and was returned to prison a few hours later.

The MRI was reportedly authorized because Combs has been complaining about an old knee injury. Diddy has faced knee problems for decades after running the 2003 New York Marathon. He injured his knee during the six weeks he trained for the marathon. Combs, accompanied by undercover officers, participated in the race as part of his fundraiser, “Diddy Runs the City,” which ultimately garnered $2 million for New York public schools and children suffering from HIV and AIDS. He finished in four hours and 15 minutes, achieving his goal of beating Oprah Winfrey, who previously completed the Marine Corps Marathon in four and a half hours.

Ahead of his May trial, federal prosecutors have amended the indictment against Sean Diddy Combs. He still faces charges of racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution, but two more women have been added to the last charge, referred to as Victims 2 and 3 throughout the document. According to the new filing, Combs “used force, threats of force, and coercion to cause victims, including but not limited to three female victims, to engage in commercial sex acts.”

The superseding indictment is very similar to the original filed in September, but in addition to accusing Combs of trafficking more women, it also extends the time frame of his alleged racketeering conspiracy. Prosecutors initially accused the mogul of using ‘Combs Enterprises’ as a 'criminal organization' responsible for kidnapping and drug-related crimes as far back as 2008, but they now allege the illegal activity began four years earlier, indicating that Combs’ pattern of abuse has continued uninterrupted for two decades.

The amended indictment expands the list of drugs that Combs and his associates are accused of distributing, which initially included cocaine, ketamine, and oxycodone. Methamphetamine and magic mushrooms have now been added to the list of substances. Combs is accused of encouraging women to engage in sex by plying them with substances, including ketamine and ecstasy, often without their knowledge or consent. Prosecutors also allege that he offered women money and promises to help advance their careers if they participated in his "Freak Offs."

The superseding indictment includes allegations from fashion designer Bryana Bongolan, who claims that Diddy dangled her over the edge of a 17th-floor balcony. This is listed as just one example of how Combs allegedly used force to combat threats to his reputation. Just months after beating Cassie Ventura at the Intercontinental Hotel, Bongolan claims that an intoxicated Combs let himself into Ventura’s apartment looking for his girlfriend but only found Bongolan, who had spent the night there. Enraged, Diddy allegedly grabbed Bongolan by the armpits, dangled her off the edge of the balcony, and threatened to drop her until Ventura happened to arrive home and intervene.

Combs has once again vehemently denied all of the allegations in the revised indictment.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Shawn Combs aka Ditty, rushed
to the hospital in the dark of night. This coincidentally
after kidnaps and Arson's claims added to his sex trafficking indictment.

(00:21):
And now we hear he dangled a model off a
seventeenth floor balcony. And how have Trump Tower and Justin
Bieber been sucked into the Diddy vortex. I'm Nancy Grace,
this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with US.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Prosecutors file a superseding indictment in disgraced rapper and music
mogul P Diddy's sex trafficking case, now alleging a conspiracy
spanning two decades.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
A row. Okay, I'm going to get to that superseding
indictment in just one moment. Sounds like a lot of
Latin legal jargon, which means basically, they added a lot
of stuff to the already extensive federal indictment on sex trafficking.
I want to get to what we know about Diddy

(01:18):
being rushed to the hospital. Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Combs rushed to the hospital hours after prosecutor's file a
superseding indictment. The rap mogul, now accused of criminal activity
spanning two decades and sex trafficking two more victims in
addition to ex girlfriend Cassie Venturro. In addition, more alleged
victims are coming forward in lawsuits claiming sexual assault at
the hands of Combs.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Somebody finds out they've got a superseding indictment and suddenly
they're knee hurts. Robert Crispin joining me private investigator with
Crispin Special Investigations. You last saw him parked outside of
Dinny's house in Miami. But for my purposes, former Federal
task for for the US Department of Justice DEEA Miami

(02:02):
Field division. On and on and on, Robert Crispin, out,
my knee hurts. You know what, I don't think there
are coincidences in criminal law. So he gets a federal
superseding indictment, stuff three inches up his tailpip, and suddenly
his knee hurts.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
So I find it interesting that they take him so
quickly right after this indictment, and nobody knows what's going on.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean a lot of.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
People go to jail, and these take months and months
to get botions and releases and security details to get.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Someone to the hospital.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
A knee injury is not like he was in cardiac
arrest and needed advanced life support.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I find it very very interesting that he got out
and he got into the hospital. That's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Joining me in addition to Robert Crispin basically who just
echoed everything I just said. You know what, Chrispin, I'm
going to give you time in the corner to think
about what you just said. Marjorie here Nandez joining me,
West Coast News editor Daily Mail, who has been all
over this, host writer of the Daily Mail podcast The
Trial of Ditty. Marjorie, Really he gets a superseding federal indictment.

(03:22):
First of all, federal indictment bad enough superseding and fantas
will jump in on this, probably to fight with me.
But superseding means they've been thinking a lot about you,
and they're adding facts or even charges to your already
existing indictment. Doesn't make my knee hurt. So there are

(03:45):
a lot of rumors floating, a lot of reports out
there that there are a lot of reasons that Sean
Combs aka Ditty aka puff Daddy aka Puffy aka Puff
aka Love. I could go on. There are a lot
of reasons for hearing that he was raised to the hospital.
One being his knee suddenly started hurting. Another is that

(04:10):
he got into a fight with an inmate. Another is
that he had a diva fit.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Which one is it, Marjorie, Well, my sources on the
inside said that one his knee had been hurting because
he was a marathoner for a few years, and all
of a sudden his knee starting put.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Her up, put her up. Hey, I have great respect
for Daily Mail. Okay, I have great respect for the
Trial of Dinny podcast. At Marjorie, you are about to
just lose all your credibility. Did you just hear yourself say,
don't let me play it back, Marjorie, his knee had
been hurting for a while, but then suddenly it really

(04:50):
started hurting when he got a superseding indictment.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
Well, again, in terms of the timing of this.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Like you said, it is quite interesting.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
However, that's what the sources are saying, that it is
a knee injury. But we shall see. I mean the
fact that again at ten o'clock ten pm last Thursday,
he was rushed to the hospital, and from what my
sources say, that doesn't happen often. It has to be
something an emergency, a cardiac or as something like that

(05:23):
has to happen in order for them to actually pluck
someone to get them into a facility.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
In the hospital right away.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Again, Majorie made you know how long it took me
to get an inmate root canal? Okay, months? The woman
was in such pain. I mean, have you ever had
a root canal? It hurts like at double l And
it took moving heaven and earth to get her to

(05:56):
get a root canal. Plus it was out of my juristiction.
So it was basically so doctor Dwayne Hendrix, you know
what we need to go to the expert on this.
I've heard that Comes had a diva fit. I guess
he didn't like his hamburger that night, or that he
had suddenly a reoccurrence of a knee injury. He's had

(06:18):
multiple knee surgeries. But it just really started hurting when
he found out about that superseding indictment. Doctor Dwayne Hendricks
is joining me, former associate Warden right there at MDC
Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, form your senior warden with
the US Department of Justice. Oh gosh, it goes on
and on. Author of who are you see it? Say

(06:39):
it sees it? But I like that you are with
the New Daylightfoundation dot com trying to do something positive.
But can I talk to you about MDC. Got you
gotta go through hell and high water to get out
of MDC for a lot of reasons. You think they
let l Chapo get out of his pin tentry to

(07:01):
go see about his knee. No, he had to dig
an underground tunnel and leave on a motorcycle to get
out of there. So why isn't Teddy getting raced out
in the cover of darkness? We keep hearing? Why does
he get the como darkness? Why does he get taken
out because he needs an aspirin? Help me, help me,

(07:22):
doctor Hendrix.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
Well, I'll tell you each.

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Mmate gets a physical within fourteen days of their arrival
at any facility.

Speaker 8 (07:31):
And I'm sure based on reports of.

Speaker 9 (07:33):
Him having several knee surgeries throughout the years after being
a marathoner back in two thousand and three, so this
may have been in the works in terms of getting
him out for MRI because I know they don't have
that equipment at the institution. And I'll just tell you this,
they probably had set this appointment up months maybe weeks ago,

(07:56):
and they set it up for the e.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Leave at one am the cover of darkness. Okay, you
think that's what they set up, Hendricks. Look, I know
you're being loyal to MDC, but can we get real
leaving MDC because your knee hurts? Have you seen that
POC technical legal term? You do know about Weinstein? Right?

(08:21):
He's got cancer, okay, and he rarely leaves the jail.
Did he has a knee pain and he gets taken
rushed out in the cloak of darkness? And you think
you're trying to tell me, Hendrix with a straight face,
that they arranged for him to be rushed out at midnight. Yeah,

(08:43):
that's normal.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
It's not normal, And you're right, it's not normal.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
But I can tell you in terms of security, do
you want to take him to a regular apployment at
two o'clock at one o'clock in the afternoon when there's.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah actually yeah, yeah, during business hours? Hey, you know what,
I like you, but you cannot have your cake and
eat it too. You can sit there and say this
was a standard soop appointment and had probably been set
up for weeks bs and he said this is a

(09:16):
normal which one isn't Hendricks.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
It's both, It's both.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
At the end of the day, this probably, I mean,
the fact is this guy supposedly had a SPA in
his house.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
He's probably had been getting with sages and.

Speaker 9 (09:30):
Treatment all the time, and now he's incarcerated, and yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
He's at the back of the line.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
I'm sure he was having the problems back in October
and November and they probably were just now able.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
He used to a spa treatment. Gdy doesn't have his
personal massuse. Okay, you know again, I'm gonna put you
in the corner with Crispin and let you rethink everything
that you have just said. Okay, say Marjorie, what is
it does? Did he have a little hair fit because

(10:02):
he finds out he's got a superseding federal indictment. I mean,
I'd have to lay down flat and be sedated if
I had a federal federal indictment number one, much less
this big, bat thick one I've got right here and
now it's been superseded more added to it. Did he
have a little hair fit? Because nobody can convince me

(10:25):
that this was a as doctor Dwayne Hendrix actually fixed
his mouth to say, a pre arranged doctor's visit at
what three am. I'm talking about you, Hendrix. What about it, Marjorie,
what's the truth?

Speaker 7 (10:37):
Yeah, in terms of that, I mean, it's very uncommon.
But and my sources have said that he has been
seen by psychologists. So he is having a very hard
time for his name.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Wait a minute, what about he's seeing psychologists. But this
is for his knee surgery, right.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
What they said was that he took an MRI and
that's why he took him out in the darkness.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
But by a psychologist common.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, not by psychologists.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
He's been seen by psychologists allegedly and other times, but
for this particular moment, he was taking out for his knee.
But from my understanding, he obviously is not used to
being there in the jail and.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Put her up place that this was a bother Marjorie. Marjorie,
I know you're just telling me what all of your
sources are telling you. But he's not used to be
in being in jail. Nobody is. Nobody wants to be
in jail. That's why they lock it and take away
the key. Of course, he's not used to being in jail.

(11:52):
As a matter of fact, his life was fantastical. We
had his pr person on a couple of weeks ago.
Can I please see Marjorie. I want to see Marjorie
her Nandez. There she is daily mail, Marjorie. I don't
know if you heard this, but comes decides at three

(12:15):
am he wants cheesecake, and guess what he gets it.
Somebody actually goes trumping around Long Island, I think or
Manhattan and finds some cheesecake and has to be a
particular cheesecake and bring it back to him. Okay, yeah,

(12:35):
he's not used to being in jail, Marjorie. I agree
with that, but to get a special trip out of
the jail, so here are the choices. Okay. A diva
fit when he finds out about this superseding indictment, has
a spat with an inmate, nuts up, or he's afraid

(12:55):
he's gonna be epsteined listen Ogel.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Sean Diddy Combs is reportedly facing life threatening danger behind bars,
fearing a fate similar to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Since Epstein's apparent suicide, conspiracy theories have swirled that the
financier was actually killed out of fear he would turn
on his inner circle. With high profile secrets on the
line and a trial looming, sources claim Diddy is a

(13:20):
prime target in prison as he's marked for death to
prevent his testimony.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Fattus. I know you're on the other side of the fence,
to put it mildly as a criminal defense attorney, but
can we talk about the serious issue of inmates being
murdered behind bars? Okay, so I'm not the first one
to report that Comb's fears that he will be epsteined
killed behind bars, and then it looks like a suicide.

Speaker 11 (13:48):
Fattus, what about it, Nancy, This is a very real
concern for a number of reasons. One look at the
nature of the charges. The first charge is racketeering. That
alleged us a criminal enterprise. That's more than one person,
that's you multiple affiliates, and so those folks are kind
of in the crosshairs. Legally, they do not want Ditty
to come and spill the beans or try to place

(14:08):
blame on them or disclose activities in which they engage
with that were criminal. So certainly they have a motivation
and potentially people on the inside that would not be uncommon,
and they do not want this information to come out
in the open during trial, So could they target did
he because of that?

Speaker 8 (14:27):
Certainly they could.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
P Didty aka Sean Combs rushed from prison to an
emergency room for an MRI after the accused wrapper complains
of knee pain.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Okay, I'm not going to keep stating the obvious that
you only leave the NBC or any facility CI correctional
institute if you have a severe andrey like you are dying.
So doctor Dwayne and Hendricks joining me former associate a
warden at MDC where comes is being housed, former senior

(15:10):
warden with the US Department of Justice. Have you had
time to pick whether it was sp that he leave
at what two three am in the morning and the
cover of darkness for an m R I not life
threatening or is there something else afoot?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
No.

Speaker 9 (15:28):
I still believe that this was something that was pre planned,
probably weeks in advanced, especially planning with the hospital staff,
because obviously most folks that are doing MRIs are working
regular shifts between nine to five or ten or six
in the in the evening.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
So apparently this operation was done, I mean not an operation,
but the.

Speaker 9 (15:51):
Planning to get him out to the hospital for this
procedure was done in advance, and also so other inmates
wouldn't know that he was leaving, and also have wouldn't
be able to call, you know, media or anyone else
say hey, you know, p Diddies leaving the institution.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
He's headed to this hospital and then, you.

Speaker 9 (16:09):
Know, causing chaos in the facility because at the end
of the day, when other folks are there to get
to take care of themselves and get their well being
in order, the last thing you want is a media
media circus at the hospital because folks want to get
a photo of mister Coombs because obviously no one's.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Seen a picture.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
So yes, right, So you said it was the inmates.
Now you're saying it's people on the outside that might
try to get a photo. Okay, I smell waffling, But
I think I know why he went to the hospital.
I think he had let's just say, he hyperventilated. He
had a little diva fit when he found out about.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
This superseding indictment accusing Combs of trafficking more women. It
also extends the timeframe of his alleged racketeering conspiracy. Prosecutors
for first accused the Mogul of using Comb's enterprises as
a criminal organization as far back as two thousand and eight,
but they now alleged the illegal activity began four years earlier,

(17:11):
meaning Combs's pattern of abuse has gone on uninterrupted for
two decades.

Speaker 10 (17:17):
The amended indictment expands the list of drugs Combs and
his associates are accused of distributing, which initially included cocaine, ketamine,
and oxycodone. Now methamphetamine and magic mushrooms have been added
to the list of substances. Prosecutors also say he offered
the women money and promises to help them advance their
career as if they participated in his freak offs.

Speaker 12 (17:36):
The revised indictment alleges Combs employed kidnapping and arson Prosecutors
alleged when Combs felt his authority or reputation was threatened,
he and his associates responded with multiple arsons and kidnappings.
Prosecutors claim during one such kidnapping, Combs was clearly armed.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
With a gun. Okay joining me renowned psychologists out of
the Manhattan jurisdiction, TV Radio Trump expert consultant at Karenstark
dot com. Karen Stark joining us, Karen, that's enough to
send me to the hospital on the cover of darkness?
Did you hear all that? So coincidentally, right at the

(18:13):
same time he gets his extraordinary knee pain from an
old injury, he gets a superseding indictment accusing him of
trafficking more women. These are not additional charges, they're additional facts, Karen,
extending the time of the racketeering. In other words, the

(18:33):
sex trafficking to go back two decades, two decades of
sex trafficking women against their will, drugging them and raping
them on video. That's going to be the charges. So
here's about that. And now wait for it that he
plied them with cocaine, ketamine and oxycodone, metha, amphetamine, magic, mushrooms,

(18:59):
way and arson and kidnap. Yeah, that would make mine hurt,
to put it mildly, care and start what are psychosmatic injuries.

Speaker 13 (19:15):
Psychosomatic injuries are injuries that feel like they're real, but
actually they are not real. And it would make a
lot of sense to me as a psychologist that he
would come up with something like that or exacerbate the
fact that he has knee injury when all of these
charges are coming out about him, Nancy, because it shows

(19:37):
that these things that he did were not isolated incidents.
What you see as a pattern of abuse control power
that was going on for decades and getting worse over time.
So this guy is not just a narcissist, which is
bad enough, but he's an antisocial personality. He's evil and

(19:59):
he able to get away with it for a long time.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You know, the term, Karen Stark, malingering comes to mind.
Could you explain what is malingering in your book basically
a psychologists bible, the DSM.

Speaker 13 (20:18):
What's lingering malingering is that he's coming up with things
that are not true. That he's saying he has knee
pain or he has some other pain, and he keeps
talking about it so that he can get away with
things that he can get out of there, that he
could be hidden for a while.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Let's talk about that just just one moment, doctor Dwayne
Hendricks joining me, a former rewarden at MDC. Where comes
his house? So, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, just because your knee hurts,
you get taken out of the jail. How many other
inmates do you believe have knee pain? Probably all of
them now?

Speaker 9 (20:57):
Yeah, and if this was a fact that he was lingering.
I mean, it was reported that during the holiday season
he had a spast where he was talking about he
was having hard palpitations or.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
Something like that, and he needed to meditate to calm down.
In that case, they and.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
They didn't let him out do it at that for
that particular reason. But I honestly believed.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That put him. He didn't let him out because he
needed to calm down and meditate. How many other inmates
are now going to claim, oh, my knee herds, all
of them? Why is he getting to go out? What
did they take him out in a limousine? Hendrix?

Speaker 9 (21:40):
No, he took him out in a van, a secure
van with him with shackles on his legs and Martin
chain and black box around his hands. So he didn't
go out on a field trip.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
I can tell you that he went.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Out to meditate. My rear end joining me right now.
Bill Wolfe, former Detective in charge of Human traffic king
in Northern Virginia, author of Eradicating Human Trafficking, A Transformative
Approach to Collective Impact, receive the Presidential Medal for Extraordinary

(22:13):
Efforts to Combat Trafficking. Wow. Bill Wolf joining me, So
Bill Wolf, too bad he didn't meditate over the last
two decades. When he's accused of sex trafficking. Can you
explain what sex trafficking does to a victim? Bill Wolf?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Absolutely?

Speaker 14 (22:34):
You know, this guy is just pure evil and absolutely
a narcissist. The fact that he can take people humans,
especially kid young people, and exploit them for sex and profit,
it's just it's absolutely disgusting, and the victims have to
live with this for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
I mean, can you.

Speaker 14 (22:51):
Imagine somebody that's sexually assaulted over and over and over
again at the hands of somebody like p Diddy and
then have to live with that the trauma for the
rest of their lives. It's absolutely apprehensible.

Speaker 15 (23:02):
The superseding indictment appears to include the allegation from fashion
designer Brianna Bongolan that Ditty dangled her over the edge
of a seventeenth floor balcony, listing it as just one
example of how Combs used force to combat threats to
his reputation. Just months after beating Cassie Ventura at the
Intercontinental Hotel, Bongolan claims, in intoxicated Combs let himself into

(23:24):
Ventura's apartment looking for his girlfriend, but only found Bongolan,
who had spent the night there. Enraged did he grabbed
Bongolan by the armpits, dangled her off the edge of
the balcony and threatened to drop her until Ventura happened
to arrive home and put a stop to the incident.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Dangling a model off the seventeenth floor balcony. Okay, Marjorie
Hernandez joining me, host and writer off the Trial of Ditty,
a Daily Mail podcast.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
What that's one of the more shocking details in Grianna
Banna as she's known. He's actually a longtime friend of
Cassie and also a fashion designer. So as her claims
she also had suon Diddy and the allegations that she
was again dangled off the seventeenth floor and Diddy essentially

(24:17):
had threatened her life and it was Cassie who essentially
stopped him from and famed her. But this is again
a pattern, It shows a pattern of his complete control
over a lot of these victims, alleged victims.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
You know, Marjorie, I agree, complete control because that was
never reported to police. Two. Robert Crispin joining US private
investigator with Crispin Special Investigations, but former Federal Task Force.
Have you ever seen a defendant, a suspect, a perp
that is so drunk on power they could totally control

(25:01):
their victim and they know they'll get away with it.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, I've seen it a lot of times. No, he
has no filter when it comes to abusing women, and
he is just an animal when it comes to abusing
these women, and he thinks he's untouchable, which is allowed.
Why a lot of this stuff went unreported because everyone
was afraid to take down P.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Diddy.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Hence why these superseding indictments are such beautiful tools in
the federal government Because as the government starts to systematically
go through all the witnesses, gaining new witnesses, new witness statements,
going through all this evidence, going through these videos, they're
starting to build their case and making it bigger and
bigger and bigger. Hence why you're starting to see these

(25:47):
things are coming forward. So the first indictment got him
off the street, which should have happened way before it did.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
But now these superseding indictments and I hence will.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Probably feel that you're going to see probably one or
two more coming as they start to talk to more
witnesses and they start getting more evidence, and more of
the stuff in these videos starts coming out because the
timing's perfect for these superseding indictments. They've had time to
talk to these witnesses, they've had time to look at
these videos. Don't forget they took a lot of footage

(26:18):
from both these houses in Miami and in Los Angeles.
It's all starting to come together. Diddy's world is crashing
and he is in an eight foot cell.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
He's got no contact with the outside world. He's not
used to this, and he's falling apart.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
And you're about to see a grown man who is
an animal towards women become a crying dog in a
jail cell.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
And he is a target in jail.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
He's a prize for somebody who's doing life, who will
kill him if they give him the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
That's a badge of honor. I killed pe Ditty sadly enough.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
There's a bunch of guards, but not every single person
can be watched every single minute of the day.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
He's absolutely a target, just like Epstein was Autori.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
That you just said, Crispin is absolutely right, and it's
hard for people that have not been in the system
to understand that. And I don't want them to understand that.
I don't want them to be part of our world.
But there are people in the behind bars that would
consider it a great honor to murder Diddy. That would

(27:26):
be they go down in the history books, right. That's
the way they think. It's not the way we think.
That's the way they think. I'd like to get back
to my original question regarding dangling the allegation that Marjorie
Hernandez Dally mill is telling us about dangling this model
off a seventeenth floor balcony. Now, many people would argue

(27:50):
Eric Faddis, for one defense attorney, that why would he
do that that's in public view. He would never do that.
See that Cassie Ventura video where Sean Combs is running
down the hall chasing Cassie. There she is, She's trying
to sneak out the freak off she was sick of. Yeah,

(28:12):
he doesn't care. There he comes in nothing but a towel,
oh excuse me, and a pair of socks and bam, bam.
This one of my friends that's seen in Kick Like.
She's a football gathering up her stuff and dragging her back.
According to her, to the freak off, she was sick
of it, she wanted out. She did want to have

(28:33):
sex with a group of men on video. And look
at this, this is what happens all in public view.
So if you, Fatus want to argue to me, well,
he would never dangle somebody off a seventeenth floor because
it's the public would see it.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
What about this, Fattus, Well, NISSI, certainly the allegations are serious,
but there are some questions that persist about this specific
allegation of dangling.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Look, it happens nearly a decade ago.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
My understanding is there was no police involvement at that time,
no charges anyway, So it's coming, you know, a decade late,
while it's all sensationalized to sort of vilify did he
And on top of that, the story doesn't make a
ton of sense.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Did he come to Cassie's house?

Speaker 11 (29:16):
Cassie is not there, so as a result, he dangles
her friend off of a balcony, and then Cassie all
of a sudden just happens to swoop in it exactly
at the right time. All of that just seems a
little suspect to me, raises some eyebrows and.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Really does that same suspect to you that we would
run out nothing but a towel and beat Cassie Ventura
in a public hallway. Right if it weren't on video,
you wouldn't believe it. You'd be making these same arguments
then that you're making right now about dangling this model
off a balcony allegedly, same argument, second verse, same as

(29:50):
the first fadest.

Speaker 11 (29:51):
Well, we're talking about is evidence. We're talking about what's provable.
So with the Cassie incident, surely there is a video.
Now there's been some editing to that video. If you look,
she walks out without shoes and then all of a
sudden the elevator she has shoes on. So it's uh,
it's a.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Difference crime stories with Nancy Grace.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
So chet this out, yo.

Speaker 16 (30:21):
Justin he's in you ever seen the movie forty eight Hours?
Right now he's having forty eight hours with Diddy, him
and his boy. They're having the times of their lives,
like like like you know, where we're hanging out and
what we're doing. We we can't really disclose, but it's
definitely a fifteen year old dream. You know I have

(30:44):
been given custody of him. You know he signed the Usher.
I had legal guardianship of Usher when when you know
he did his first album, I did Usher's first album.
I don't really I don't have legal guardianship of him.
But for the next forty eight hours he's with me.
So yeah, and we're gonna go full b full crazy.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Gone crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That from Justin Bieber's YouTube page. Oh Dear Lord in Heaven,
why would Shawn Comes have custody of Usher when he
was a minor? And why would Shawn Comes be handed
over on a silver platter? Justin Bieber? I mean in

(31:27):
that picture he looks like he's ten years old in
that video from his uh his own social to Marjorie
Hernandez joining US West Coast News editor Daily Mail and
host and writer at the of the Trial of Diddy podcast?
How has Justin Bieber and Trump Towers? But let's start
with Bieber been pulled into Shawn Comes aka Diddy's Vortex. Well,

(31:53):
recent footage of Justin.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Wandering around Los Angeles. He does not look well at all,
and a lot of people have suspected it's because of
his name being dragged into this drama with Diddy, and
you know, seeing those old videos now it's really haunting
to see such a young Justin uh, you know, essentially
be turned over to Ditty and have Diddy again having

(32:15):
control over such a young and impressionable Justin Bieber. And
now it seems like all of this trauma is resurfacing.
He does not look well in some of the footage
that we've recently seen.

Speaker 12 (32:29):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
There was also this drama about him and following his
wife on Instagram. Yet the interesting point he still follows Diddy,
so we're not sure what's going on there, but it
does seem like he is unwell.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Marjorie, can you imagine going to the grocery store on
your worst day. Let's just say, no hair, no makeup,
You're wearing sweatpants, you think you have sunglasses when you
get in the car, on a hat, but then you
find out you don't. You hear sticks straight up. Of course,
yours would never look like that, because you're perfect. I would.

(33:04):
And then to see somebody just swooping in and taking
your picture and then selling it where you look horrible
and you feel horrible. Let's just throw in that you
have the flu? Why can't people leave Justin Bieber alone.
I mean, he's just had a baby with his wife.

(33:27):
That's a big transition. Okay. I had twins at once,
and they woke up at night twelve thirty, one thirty,
three thirty, and four thirty and by the last four
thirty feeding I scot up and that was it. For
the rest of the day. They were not on the
same schedule. That's a hard time. No matter how happy
you are about the baby, no matter how much you

(33:48):
love the baby and it's your whole whole world, it's
still hard. Okay, much less working as I know that
he is. And so people get shot him or he
looks bad, Yes he looks bad, but the Diddy thing
on top of it, How has he gotten sucked into

(34:09):
the Diddy vortex? Are people trying to claim he was
part of the freak offs? He's not named as a
co defendant or an underded, a co conspirator, or even
a witness. I don't believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
He's on the witness list. So why is this a
name always connected with Sean Combs.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
You know, there's allegations out there that he was also
assaulted by Sean Combs, and that you know, because of
his proximity Sean Combs for years and years since he
was a child. As he saw in that video, it
did start breaking the sea. Now that name is again
being pulled back into this sportext as you said of Diddy,

(34:48):
but there has been rumors that there are videos of
him justed being possibly assaulted by Combs.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's a lot of possibly a led to rumors. I'm
not paying any attention to any of that. I would
just ask that people leave Biber alone in a new marriage,
a new baby, working in his career. Now he can't
even go out and get a pack of cigarettes without

(35:18):
being onlmbasted. But it's not just Bieber who's gotten sucked
into this, I'm sure against his will. Now Trump Tower
is dragged in and listen.

Speaker 15 (35:30):
Doe alleged she attended a party hosted by Combs at
the club, and group sex was part of the experience
on three of the building's five floors. When Doe attempts
to leave, Comb's allegedly coerces her into going with them
to the Midtown Manhattan Trump Hotel.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
On arrival, Doe is again.

Speaker 15 (35:46):
Given a drink she believes was laced with drugs, then
raped by Comb's associates at his direction for several hours.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Okay, some people may find that fantastical, but there is
another witness who says essentially the same thing.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
The second Jane Doe's lawsuit contains very similar allegations sexual
assaults stemming from parties at the Limelight. After a second
Limelight party, Doe says, Combs and a security guard drove
her to the Trump Hotel, forced you to take drugs
in the penthouse suite, then Combs instructed the security guard
to sexually assault her.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Bill Wolfe joining me, anti sex trafficking expert and author
of Eradicating Human Trafficking Bill, this is what I find
very striking. You have alleged victims separated in time and space,
saying the same thing. Okay, and it's just a lot
of people have attacked Tony Busby the civil attorney who's

(36:42):
representing a lot of these alleged victims. But I find
it difficult to believe that these women would go and
interview with the Feds and stick with a lie. Okay,
Yet their statements are startlingly similar, which in my mind
makes them credible. The same story over and over and
over Bill Wolf, It's very hard to argue this didn't

(37:07):
happen with so many witnesses saying the very same thing.

Speaker 14 (37:11):
I completely agree. I can tell you from my experience
as both an investigator and working with so many survivors.
You know, sometimes these stories sound fantastical, right, like there's
no way that that could have happened. But the reality is,
in the world of sex trafficking, these things happened over
and over and over again, And I think you're absolutely right.
It lends a lot of credibility when you're hearing the

(37:33):
same tactics and methods of control and abuse and torture
that are being used by the trafficker over and over again.
I mean, I've heard so many stories from survivors. I
mean things is as crazy as taking victims and putting
them in mini fridges in hotels as a form of punishment,

(37:54):
and closing the door so it was airtight, right, these things.
People can't even sath them that these things happened. But unfortunately,
in the United States of America, this is happening every
single day.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Attorney Mark Agnifilo says prosecutors are being ridiculous. The two
women in question were not prostitutes, but former girlfriends, Combs
and Agnifilo say they look forward to proving in court
that no one was trafficked and no one participated in
sex acts they did not consent to.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
So the defense here is they were not prostitutes. That's
the defense. Robert Crispin, how many criminals have we helped
put behind bars? And they always do the same thing
over and ever. Yes, this alleged victim is a male,

(38:45):
but it's the same story. I went to a party,
or I went to further my career, I had a drink,
I passed out, I wake up, my rear end hurts.
That's what happens over and over again.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Yeah, that's the common theme, isn't And they're all pretty
much the exact same.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
And you know, Nancy, you've been.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
In a grand jury. I've been in a grand jury
and we've sat in them and listen. There was a
lot of testimony from each one of these witnesses to
that jury panel that was very convincing that what happened
to them was criminal, and what happened to them showed
that this racketeering u Rico thing started well before the

(39:27):
indictment states, so it brought it back now to what
two thousand and four, So these people just didn't go
in and say one or two things. Grand Jury is
a lot of people, and you do a lot of talking,
and you have to convince these people that it actually happened.
And they rate you and they look at you and
they see if they believe you.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
They don't just listen to you.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But I'm so glad you mentioned that this indictment, it's
not just the Feds from a federal grand jury. And
as you said, you've sat in. I've conducted grand jury
seedings before for years, and there's somewhere between twenty and
forty grand gurrrs secret grand your rs, and they are
the ones that say yay or nay to an indictment.

(40:13):
They either hand down a true bill or a no
bill in dit or don't indict. And they have the
opportunity and they do it of questioning each and every witness.
And they're not questions you can prepare for like you
can put up across a direct because you're in control
of those questions. When you open up the floor to

(40:33):
forty people from all walks of life, there's no telling
what question they're gonna ask. And the witness has to
respond then contemporaneously with the question. They can go, oh,
can I ask my lawyer? No, you have to answer then,
and they had that opportunity before handing down the superseding indictment.
Isn't that true, Crispin?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (40:54):
And how many people have testified in front of the
grand jury and they come back.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
With a no true bill?

Speaker 5 (40:58):
So you know, or we're not indicting, I should say,
but obviously that didn't happen here.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
But yes, you're right.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
There's a lot of people, a lot of talking, a
lot of questions, a lot of credibility checking. These people
are reading these people as well. They're everyday people just
like you and I and everybody else out there.

Speaker 8 (41:18):
And people are stupid.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
They can look at people and they can read people.
And they're in grand jury for come for five minutes.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
They're in there for a little bit of time, and
these people are looking at them and they're sizing them
up because they need to render a true bill or
a no true bill.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
They need to authorize a superseding indictment or not.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
So my opinion in what just happened with these new
witnesses and bringing this back in another four years These are.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Some pretty damn good credible witnesses.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I tell you this, I bet he did get any pain.
We wait as just to sun Falls. Goodbye rand Boo
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