March 7, 2017 • 14 mins
Casey Anthony, the Florida woman Nancy Grace dubbed “Tot Mom,” says she has no idea how her daughter Caylee died, but she has no trouble sleeping at night. Anthony’s controversial comments came in an Associated Press interview. Grace, who covered the search when two-year-old Caylee was missing and the acquittal of her mother on murder charges, has her own words for Anthony in this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a special edition of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Tod Mom speaks, Healey would be twelve fish year she'd be.
But you're also convicted of one thing, lying to the cops.
A lot of the cops every day, the cops a
(00:20):
lot of people every day. I'm still not even certain
as I stand here today about what happened. I don't
care understanding how did she do? I don't know. I
don't give about when anybody thinks about me. I don't
care about that. I never will. I'm okay with myself.
I sleep pretty good at night. By now, everyone unless
(00:41):
you're living in a cave, has learned that Todd Mom
Casey Anthony has spoken, has broken her so called silence.
I'm stunned actually at what she has said. I didn't
see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us. I covered the trial of top Mom Casey
(01:02):
Anthony many years ago. In fact, I covered the missing
person case when her two year old little girl killing
went missing. I recall being one of the first ones
on the story and when I heard the facts, she
states quote, I sleep pretty good at night. Really, you
know what, For many many years I have prosecuted violent
(01:27):
felonies in which children were kidnapped, were abused, were murdered.
And I have never, once, not once met one parent
that quote sleeps pretty good at night after their child
has been taken and murdered. No, you never quote sleep
(01:50):
pretty good at night. Even now, all these years since
my fiance was murdered, I don't go one week that
I don't wake up in the middle of the night
and wonder what he went through when he was murdered.
To sleep pretty good at night, How can that be
(02:10):
when your child's body was found just ten houses away
from your own home, thrown away like trash, left out
in the elements to decompose, for possums and dogs and
other animals to tear her body apart as she slept
(02:31):
down the street. How many times would I have wondered?
How how how often had I driven past my child's
dead body just feed away from me? It would drive
me to the brink of sanity. Yet top Mom says
I sleep pretty good at night. Once again, it's all
about her and not about her child. Kelly. That's the
(02:55):
way it's always been, and that's the way it is now.
I want to say thanks Simple Safe Home Alarm system,
home security system for making our podcast possible. Simply Safe
is something I believe in. We have been pitched a
lot of products, a lot of ideas that I have
next because I didn't believe in them. I do believe
(03:16):
in simply Safe. Simply Safe makes home security affordable. I mean,
even when I was a county prosecutor having to work
to night jobs to make my house payment, I had
a security system in my house. Now with my twins,
we have home security. A lot of people think they
can't afford it. You can. It's four a month with
(03:39):
ten percent off if you go to simply safe dot
com slash Nancy. I don't think you can put a
price on protecting your family. And I don't mean just possessions,
you know, sure, what would I What would I say?
I would say my grandmother's engagement ring. I probably say
the letters my fiance wrote me before he was killed.
Let's see. I I'll be trying to save all our
(04:01):
family albums that I've worked so hard on. The rest
of it, you know, forget it. But what about my twins?
About that? I mean, it's not just about possessions. So
I want to thank simply Safe from making today possible.
Thank you, simply safe top mom. Casey Anthony goes on
to say she has no idea even now how her
(04:23):
daughter died. I really because it trial. Her defense was
she authorized her lawyers to state that her daughter likely
drowned dead in the family pool and then blamed her father, George,
who I believe to be completely innocent of discarding the
(04:44):
TAPS body in that manner. That's what she said at trial,
that Kelly died in the family pool by accident, in
a swimming accident, and instead of calling nine one one
or calling police or having a proper funeral, they just
decided to just throw the body out and let it decompose,
(05:05):
be picked apart by animals. That was the defense at trial.
So what she forgot that she forgot how her daughter died,
because that's what she said at trial, that's what her
lawyer said. But in the last six years she forgot,
she doesn't remember, has no idea how her daughter died. Wow,
(05:25):
that's that's certainly odd, isn't it that you forget how
your daughter died, or at least forgot what you told
a jury. What I have to say to that is
it is simply moral lies. I only wonder what her
motivation is for coming forward. Reports are that Top Mom
Casey Anthony tried to back out of this statement running
being printed five times. Now I see why. Casey Anthony
(05:49):
also says that she quote got in trouble because she
is one of the few unfortunate people to admit she lied.
That is absolutely not true. She lied through her teeth
to everybody she knew or seemed to love. It is
unrefuted by her own words that her daughter goes missing
(06:10):
after an argument she had with her mother. Remember, her mother, Cindy,
wanted to take the baby and raise her herself, but
Top Mom Casey Anthony wouldn't have that. Oh no, Suddenly
her daughter quote goes missing, and she blames a nonexistent
nanny named denied A Gonzales of kidnapping her daughter, and then,
(06:34):
by her own account, she goes for thirty days. If
your child went missing, wouldn't you call police, wouldn't you
set up a search station. Wouldn't you go out run
into the streets looking for your child? Wouldn't you? But no,
what Top Mom did was lie to everybody she knew.
(06:54):
She left her parents home, ostensibly with her daughter. She
slung up with a boyfriend. She never mentioned to the
boyfriend that her child was missing. She didn't look for
the child, she didn't call police, nothing. Instead, she went
to a local store and bought sexy lingerie and a
case of beer to party with her boyfriend. She went
(07:17):
to nightclubs every night, including a hot body contest, and
there are photos of her and a METI skirt and
push up Brian living it up at a nightclub while
her daughter is missing. It brings to mind the time
I was in Babies or Us and I was stooped down,
really on on my knees looking for organic sunscream okay,
(07:39):
And I had John David and Lucy right beside me.
And when I looked and looked through all the different offerings,
I stood up. I turned around and Lucy was there
and John David was gone, and I screamed, bloody murder,
my baby's gone. Locked the doors. I mean I screamed
it because I wanted to find my son then, and
(08:01):
I will never forget that feeling. Thank God, he was
just a few rows over. He had darted off to
look for something. But think about it. Top mom's own
story is that the nanny who didn't exist kidnapped her baby,
and she kept it a secret from her lover, her mother,
her father, her friends, her family, everybody for thirty days
(08:23):
until her mother busted her. Remember top mom's car got
told and her mother got the notice in the mail
and went to go get the car out of the
toe area. And when she opened the car, she said,
and I quote, this car smells like the damn car
smells like a dead body. That is what her own
(08:45):
mother said. Why because the dead body had been in
the car her daughter's. So let's think about that. She
says that she got in trouble because she's one of
the few people that admit she lied. She didn't come
out and admitt she was busted, and all started unraveling.
(09:06):
She had been telling her parents she worked at Universal Studios,
even had an outfit of Universals or a name tag
or something. And she led police all the way to Universal,
to the security gate and the security guard and tried
to get in like she worked there. She didn't. That
was a lie. Cops busted her. That is how it
came out. She was lying. She never said, look, guys,
(09:29):
I want to find my daughter. I want to tell
you the truth. This is what happened. That's not how
it went down. Okay, let's not be confused about the facts.
What did she thank me forgot what happened at trial?
She is now with an O J. Defense investigator and
says she empathizes with O. J. Simpson. Okay, see, and
now that part I could predict. You know, birds of
(09:52):
a feather flock together, that whole thing. So she empathizes
with O. J. Simpson, who was a double killer. All right.
I could just imagine those two sitting around having drinks,
swapping stories about how they got away with murder. Now, lately,
the trial judge, who I respect a lot, Bell Van Perry,
has come out and said he thinks taught mom Casey
(10:12):
Anthony accidentally killed her child with chloroform. What you don't
use chloroform on a child, That in itself is aggravated assault,
and a death occurred homemade chloroform. I don't know what
Judge Bell va Perry was thinking, but you don't accidentally
overdo it with the chloroform on your child's mouth and nose.
(10:35):
That is an aggravated assault. And if a death occurs
from that, that is quite simply a felony murder. A
death that occurred in the commission of a felony, no
accidental chloroforming, she taught. Mom compares herself to Alice in Wonderland. What.
I don't think Alison Wonderland was ever accused of murder.
(10:56):
She also blames the media. She blames everybody but her self.
She's blamed her mother, her father, the media, the nanny,
the this, the that it's not the media's fault, the
media simply reported. She goes on to brag that she
hangs out with friends in bars and that men buy
(11:19):
her drinks and are attracted to her. You know, in
the wake of your daughter being murdered and left dead
to be you know, bits of food for animals. I
don't think this would be the time to be worried
about men being attracted to you in bars and buying
you drinks. I guess something's never changed, right And last,
(11:43):
you know, when I think about my children's future, I
think about what all I want to give them. I
want to give them everything I never had, everything my
mom and dad never had. M I want them to
have a chance to if they want to go to
(12:04):
a fancy Ivy League school, to not have student loans
around their next to not have to work two and
three jobs from fourteen on to make it. I dream
of them being a doctor or a scientist, or a lawyer,
or an inventor or a pianist. I dream of them
(12:27):
doing well at piano and singing in the church choir,
and one day getting a graduate degree and marrying and
having a family. Those are my dreams, and I hope
those things for them. What does top Mom say her
daughter would be now if she had not been killed?
A badass? You know, I'm not even going to comment
(12:51):
on that. I just say, all in all, little Kelly,
rest in peace, Rest in peace, sweet girl. Again, Thank
you too. Simply Safe our sponsor joining us here on
crime stories. Simply Safe is so easy to install, hence
the name simply Safe. They've even got a video online
(13:11):
to explain how to do it. People believe they cannot
afford home security, Well you can. Simply Safe offers round
the clock security for a month, and right now if
you go to simply safe dot com slash Nancy, there's
an additional ten percent off. I've got my home armed.
(13:33):
My mom has her home armed. You know, when you
have children or anything, dear to you, it makes all
the sense in the world, so thank you. Simply safe.
In addition to finding this and other stories at crime
online dot com. If you have a tip, information or
a question, dial us nine zero nine four nine two
(13:57):
seven three six four. That is nine O nine four
nine Crime c R I M E nine O nine
four nine two seven three six four. Nancy Grace signing
off from crime Stories. Good Bye friend,
This is a special edition of Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
Tod Mom speaks, Healey would be twelve fish year she'd be.
But you're also convicted of one thing, lying to the cops.
A lot of the cops every day, the cops a
(00:20):
lot of people every day. I'm still not even certain
as I stand here today about what happened. I don't
care understanding how did she do? I don't know. I
don't give about when anybody thinks about me. I don't
care about that. I never will. I'm okay with myself.
I sleep pretty good at night. By now, everyone unless
(00:41):
you're living in a cave, has learned that Todd Mom
Casey Anthony has spoken, has broken her so called silence.
I'm stunned actually at what she has said. I didn't
see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us. I covered the trial of top Mom Casey
(01:02):
Anthony many years ago. In fact, I covered the missing
person case when her two year old little girl killing
went missing. I recall being one of the first ones
on the story and when I heard the facts, she
states quote, I sleep pretty good at night. Really, you
know what, For many many years I have prosecuted violent
(01:27):
felonies in which children were kidnapped, were abused, were murdered.
And I have never, once, not once met one parent
that quote sleeps pretty good at night after their child
has been taken and murdered. No, you never quote sleep
(01:50):
pretty good at night. Even now, all these years since
my fiance was murdered, I don't go one week that
I don't wake up in the middle of the night
and wonder what he went through when he was murdered.
To sleep pretty good at night, How can that be
(02:10):
when your child's body was found just ten houses away
from your own home, thrown away like trash, left out
in the elements to decompose, for possums and dogs and
other animals to tear her body apart as she slept
(02:31):
down the street. How many times would I have wondered?
How how how often had I driven past my child's
dead body just feed away from me? It would drive
me to the brink of sanity. Yet top Mom says
I sleep pretty good at night. Once again, it's all
about her and not about her child. Kelly. That's the
(02:55):
way it's always been, and that's the way it is now.
I want to say thanks Simple Safe Home Alarm system,
home security system for making our podcast possible. Simply Safe
is something I believe in. We have been pitched a
lot of products, a lot of ideas that I have
next because I didn't believe in them. I do believe
(03:16):
in simply Safe. Simply Safe makes home security affordable. I mean,
even when I was a county prosecutor having to work
to night jobs to make my house payment, I had
a security system in my house. Now with my twins,
we have home security. A lot of people think they
can't afford it. You can. It's four a month with
(03:39):
ten percent off if you go to simply safe dot
com slash Nancy. I don't think you can put a
price on protecting your family. And I don't mean just possessions,
you know, sure, what would I What would I say?
I would say my grandmother's engagement ring. I probably say
the letters my fiance wrote me before he was killed.
Let's see. I I'll be trying to save all our
(04:01):
family albums that I've worked so hard on. The rest
of it, you know, forget it. But what about my twins?
About that? I mean, it's not just about possessions. So
I want to thank simply Safe from making today possible.
Thank you, simply safe top mom. Casey Anthony goes on
to say she has no idea even now how her
(04:23):
daughter died. I really because it trial. Her defense was
she authorized her lawyers to state that her daughter likely
drowned dead in the family pool and then blamed her father, George,
who I believe to be completely innocent of discarding the
(04:44):
TAPS body in that manner. That's what she said at trial,
that Kelly died in the family pool by accident, in
a swimming accident, and instead of calling nine one one
or calling police or having a proper funeral, they just
decided to just throw the body out and let it decompose,
(05:05):
be picked apart by animals. That was the defense at trial.
So what she forgot that she forgot how her daughter died,
because that's what she said at trial, that's what her
lawyer said. But in the last six years she forgot,
she doesn't remember, has no idea how her daughter died. Wow,
(05:25):
that's that's certainly odd, isn't it that you forget how
your daughter died, or at least forgot what you told
a jury. What I have to say to that is
it is simply moral lies. I only wonder what her
motivation is for coming forward. Reports are that Top Mom
Casey Anthony tried to back out of this statement running
being printed five times. Now I see why. Casey Anthony
(05:49):
also says that she quote got in trouble because she
is one of the few unfortunate people to admit she lied.
That is absolutely not true. She lied through her teeth
to everybody she knew or seemed to love. It is
unrefuted by her own words that her daughter goes missing
(06:10):
after an argument she had with her mother. Remember, her mother, Cindy,
wanted to take the baby and raise her herself, but
Top Mom Casey Anthony wouldn't have that. Oh no, Suddenly
her daughter quote goes missing, and she blames a nonexistent
nanny named denied A Gonzales of kidnapping her daughter, and then,
(06:34):
by her own account, she goes for thirty days. If
your child went missing, wouldn't you call police, wouldn't you
set up a search station. Wouldn't you go out run
into the streets looking for your child? Wouldn't you? But no,
what Top Mom did was lie to everybody she knew.
(06:54):
She left her parents home, ostensibly with her daughter. She
slung up with a boyfriend. She never mentioned to the
boyfriend that her child was missing. She didn't look for
the child, she didn't call police, nothing. Instead, she went
to a local store and bought sexy lingerie and a
case of beer to party with her boyfriend. She went
(07:17):
to nightclubs every night, including a hot body contest, and
there are photos of her and a METI skirt and
push up Brian living it up at a nightclub while
her daughter is missing. It brings to mind the time
I was in Babies or Us and I was stooped down,
really on on my knees looking for organic sunscream okay,
(07:39):
And I had John David and Lucy right beside me.
And when I looked and looked through all the different offerings,
I stood up. I turned around and Lucy was there
and John David was gone, and I screamed, bloody murder,
my baby's gone. Locked the doors. I mean I screamed
it because I wanted to find my son then, and
(08:01):
I will never forget that feeling. Thank God, he was
just a few rows over. He had darted off to
look for something. But think about it. Top mom's own
story is that the nanny who didn't exist kidnapped her baby,
and she kept it a secret from her lover, her mother,
her father, her friends, her family, everybody for thirty days
(08:23):
until her mother busted her. Remember top mom's car got
told and her mother got the notice in the mail
and went to go get the car out of the
toe area. And when she opened the car, she said,
and I quote, this car smells like the damn car
smells like a dead body. That is what her own
(08:45):
mother said. Why because the dead body had been in
the car her daughter's. So let's think about that. She
says that she got in trouble because she's one of
the few people that admit she lied. She didn't come
out and admitt she was busted, and all started unraveling.
(09:06):
She had been telling her parents she worked at Universal Studios,
even had an outfit of Universals or a name tag
or something. And she led police all the way to Universal,
to the security gate and the security guard and tried
to get in like she worked there. She didn't. That
was a lie. Cops busted her. That is how it
came out. She was lying. She never said, look, guys,
(09:29):
I want to find my daughter. I want to tell
you the truth. This is what happened. That's not how
it went down. Okay, let's not be confused about the facts.
What did she thank me forgot what happened at trial?
She is now with an O J. Defense investigator and
says she empathizes with O. J. Simpson. Okay, see, and
now that part I could predict. You know, birds of
(09:52):
a feather flock together, that whole thing. So she empathizes
with O. J. Simpson, who was a double killer. All right.
I could just imagine those two sitting around having drinks,
swapping stories about how they got away with murder. Now, lately,
the trial judge, who I respect a lot, Bell Van Perry,
has come out and said he thinks taught mom Casey
(10:12):
Anthony accidentally killed her child with chloroform. What you don't
use chloroform on a child, That in itself is aggravated assault,
and a death occurred homemade chloroform. I don't know what
Judge Bell va Perry was thinking, but you don't accidentally
overdo it with the chloroform on your child's mouth and nose.
(10:35):
That is an aggravated assault. And if a death occurs
from that, that is quite simply a felony murder. A
death that occurred in the commission of a felony, no
accidental chloroforming, she taught. Mom compares herself to Alice in Wonderland. What.
I don't think Alison Wonderland was ever accused of murder.
(10:56):
She also blames the media. She blames everybody but her self.
She's blamed her mother, her father, the media, the nanny,
the this, the that it's not the media's fault, the
media simply reported. She goes on to brag that she
hangs out with friends in bars and that men buy
(11:19):
her drinks and are attracted to her. You know, in
the wake of your daughter being murdered and left dead
to be you know, bits of food for animals. I
don't think this would be the time to be worried
about men being attracted to you in bars and buying
you drinks. I guess something's never changed, right And last,
(11:43):
you know, when I think about my children's future, I
think about what all I want to give them. I
want to give them everything I never had, everything my
mom and dad never had. M I want them to
have a chance to if they want to go to
(12:04):
a fancy Ivy League school, to not have student loans
around their next to not have to work two and
three jobs from fourteen on to make it. I dream
of them being a doctor or a scientist, or a lawyer,
or an inventor or a pianist. I dream of them
(12:27):
doing well at piano and singing in the church choir,
and one day getting a graduate degree and marrying and
having a family. Those are my dreams, and I hope
those things for them. What does top Mom say her
daughter would be now if she had not been killed?
A badass? You know, I'm not even going to comment
(12:51):
on that. I just say, all in all, little Kelly,
rest in peace, Rest in peace, sweet girl. Again, Thank
you too. Simply Safe our sponsor joining us here on
crime stories. Simply Safe is so easy to install, hence
the name simply Safe. They've even got a video online
(13:11):
to explain how to do it. People believe they cannot
afford home security, Well you can. Simply Safe offers round
the clock security for a month, and right now if
you go to simply safe dot com slash Nancy, there's
an additional ten percent off. I've got my home armed.
(13:33):
My mom has her home armed. You know, when you
have children or anything, dear to you, it makes all
the sense in the world, so thank you. Simply safe.
In addition to finding this and other stories at crime
online dot com. If you have a tip, information or
a question, dial us nine zero nine four nine two
(13:57):
seven three six four. That is nine O nine four
nine Crime c R I M E nine O nine
four nine two seven three six four. Nancy Grace signing
off from crime Stories. Good Bye friend,
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