February 20, 2019 • 43 mins
Patrick Frazee allegedly blindfolded Kelsey Berreth and asked her to try to guess what kind of candle she was smelling when he bashed her head with a baseball bat, according to the Colorado man's other girlfriend. That was just one of many gruesome revelations at Frazee's preliminary hearing for the Thanksgiving Day murder of Berreth. Nancy Grace looks at the newly-revealed evidence with a panel including judge and lawyer Ashley Willcott, psychologist Dr. William July, private investigator Vincent Hill and reporter Ellen Killoran. Cajun Coast Search & Rescue Commander Toney Wade updates the search for missing Mississippi mom Danielle Nipper.
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With Nancy Grace, we heard evidence that Patrick Frazy contacted
Crystal Lee in Idaho on three separate occasions, had her
come to Colorado to murder Kelsey on September twenty third
October fifteenth. In October twenty first, Crystal told investigators that
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Patrick first and September asked that Crystal put poison or
something in the Starbucks coffee give that to Kelsey so
that Kelsey would no longer be a problem. Then, when
that didn't work and Patrick was angry with Crystal, he
then on October fifteenth, had Crystal come back to Colorado,
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provided her with a pipe by which Crystal was to
strike Kelsey, killing her, And when that didn't work, Patrick
then solicited Crystal again to come back on October twenty
first with a baseball bat to kill Kelsey. Crystal tells
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investigators that she did not comply with any of those
and at the last time, when she was here on
October twenty first, she sat and said I can't do
this and tells Patrick I can't do this. And then
we hear from Michelle Stein that there's a phone call
on October twenty second, where Crystal is very upset and
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says she's done. Wow, what a difference a day makes.
As you all know by now, the so called killer fiance,
Patrick Frasy, suspected in the death of a beautiful Colorado
mom of one, a one year old little girl, Kelly.
She was last seen at the grocery store with Kelly
in the grocery cart, calling her mom asking about her
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recipe she planned to cook that night. Had she invited
Patrick Frasy over The two were a long time loves
and then mysteriously she disappears. You're hearing from the Assistant
District Attorney Jennifer Veeman. There all this coming out in
court from no one less than Patrick Fras's other mistress,
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a divorced mom of two rodeo queen slash nurse. I'm
Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us. This is what you get when you ask
somebody else to do your dirty work. That's right straight
out to Ellen colorin Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter,
what happened? What we learned at the preliminary hearing for
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Patrick Freeze yesterday was that Crystal Lee Kenny, who had
previously pleaded guilty to one count of tampering with evidence,
was involved at many different steps of the way in
this murder. Okay, wait wait, wait, back up, back it up,
Back it up. Ellen, she's got one count of tampering
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with evidence. Hey, you know what, let's just start with
the big bombshell. We learned in Corey yesterday that the
killer fiance Patrick Frasey allegedly blindfolded his fiance Kelsey Barrett
the Mom to get her to smell a mystery candle
and guess the scent. He blindfalls her and sound like
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loving sexy way, and then when she's gonna smell the candle,
he takes a baseball bat and beats her head in
Ashley Wilcot judge lawyer anchor Ashley Wilcot dot com that
would be the last time I ever smell a candle.
To Hey, with that, I don't even know where to start.
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First of all, a blind cold. If David walks up
to move the blindfold, I'm like, fine, turn amound, I'll
put it on you. I Am not putting on a blindfold,
forget it. Put it can smell this candle's sweetheart. And
then beats her head in with a baseball bat. Yeah,
it's unfathomable to me. The other thing I want to
say is, you know, thank god he was deciding to
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have this affair and get her complicit in this simply
so she could come forward and we could know the
truth about what happened to this woman. Eka Ellen klaurin
crime online dot Com Investigate every reporter. I was hearing
the assistant prosecutor Jennifer Veeman saying that he had tried
to get the Rodeo queen, as I call her, Crystal
Lee Kenny to come to Colorado three times in October
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to kill Kelsey Barrett. Why why kill Kelsey Barrett? And
why on the third time you think was the charm?
Why didn't he just stop right there? I mean, he
had plenty of time to figure out, Hey, you know what,
this is a bad idea. That's right, Nancy. There was
plenty of time for him to stop, for her to
stop participating. And his reasoning, according to the testimony that
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Kenny gave police, is that he thought that Kelsey Barrett
was crazy, that she had a drinking problem which was
in the which has not been proven, and that he
was afraid that she was going to hurt their baby,
and he wanted custody of the baby drinking problem. Drinking problem.
She did not have a drinking problem that nobody has established.
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That he's just saying that to get Crystal Lee Kenny,
the rodeo Queen on board. And another thing to doctor
William July, psychologist at doctor William July dot com, Doctor July,
I don't understand why she's going along with it, and
now she's getting one charge of tampering. So he beats
her dead with a baseball bat. And then he, according
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to what we learned in court in the last hours,
goes and has Thanksgiving dinner with his family, washes his
hands of all the blood and leaves leaves her there,
sits down and has turkey dressing, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin
pie with his family like nothing's happening. Then he calls
this girl, the rodeo queen. Crystal Kenny goes, you got
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a mess to clean up, and she allegedly drives all
the way from Twin Falls, Gooding and Idaho and comes
all the way that she drives there to clean up
a blood soaked condo. And she says and I left
some blood for cops to find. Like, I'm gonna give
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her a gold star. I'm beside myself. She's all up
in this and why is she getting this light? Please?
I don't get it. They're in this together. She's the
one that sent those fake texts from Kelsey Barra's phone
to throw police off the track. And she's the one
that cleaned up all the blood. She says she tried.
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She went there to Kelsey's home three times with the
intent to kill Kelsey, once with a poisoned coffee or
some bs like that. Why daughter, did you lie? Is
a woman that desperate for let me just say, ephimistically
love this. She'll do anything. Really, Wow, Nancy, this is
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just so disturbing. It's not love. First of all, it's
not love. This is a what this what's happening here
is an intersection, is a perfect destructive, horrible intersection between
two personality types that went together. One is going to
be totally manipulated and the other is going as a
person who's narcissistic, manipulative, and probably psychopathic. And when those
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types of personalities can be very charming and very very strong,
and if connected with the person who has a weaker personality.
I'm talking, you know, very weak personality. These types of
things can happen people. We see it over and over.
People do horrific things at the under the commands. It's
not brainwashing. It's just an actual intersection of two It's
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a perfect storm. I don't think it was brainwashing because
they didn't even live together. It wasn't like she had
Stockholm syndrome or anything to live hours and hours apart exactly.
You know, to Vincent Hill, it's not Stockholm syndrome. Vincent Hill,
former cop turned a private investigator, author of playbook to
a murder on Amazon. Vincent Hill, I've seen it before
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as well. People do things when they are in groups
that they would never do when they if they were alone.
They get together, especially duos, they get together and they
commit atrocities. One, as doctor Juli was saying, usually does
have the stronger personality. Have you seen that, Vincent Hill? Yeah, absolutely, Nancy,
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I've seen that. And to your point, I don't think
either one of those separately, Patrick or as you call her,
the Rodeo Queen, would have been brave enough to attempt
this by themselves. They needed to act together on this
and the whole thing about, Oh, we we're gonna poison
her coffee, her Starbucks coffee. That's just sick, Nancy, It's
really sick, crystaland tells us that on October I'm sorry,
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November twenty second Thanksgiving, Patrick kills Kelsey in a horrific
manner with a bat in the back of the head
as Kelsey is sniffing handles with a blindfold over her eyes.
Crystal tells us that Patrick then calls her after he
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has put Kelsey in a black plastic tote, calls Crystal
to come out and help him clean up. She does
not come out that day. She cannot come out that day,
but she does come out on October twenty fourth, and
as Crystal describes, when she walks into Kelsey's condo, the
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scene is horrific. There's blood everywhere, there are bloody footprints everywhere,
and Crystal cleans up blood but leaves behind some telltale
evidence for our investigators to find. You're hearing the assistant
prosecutor that is Jennifer Veemon's I don't know that I'm
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giving let me go to Ellen klaurin Crime online dot
Com investigative reporter, I don't know that I'm giving the
Rodeo coint What was her title? Out to Allan Deaton
joining me from La Guys, I haven't even introduced our
all star annel with me. Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer. You
can find her at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Doctor William July,
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renowned psychologist. You can find him at doctor William July
dot com. Former cop turned PI, author of playbook to
a Murder, Vincent Hill, and Ellen colorin Crime online dot com,
investigative reporter at Crime online dot com. You can find
all breaking news in crime and justice here in the studio,
Jackie Howard and joining me from La Allen, Allen, what
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was her Rodeo queen title? Please? In two thousand and eight,
she was selected as the Magic Valley Stamped Queen. That
is the official title. You know, the way you say that,
I think Bert Parks has any fell in. I could
just see you announcing at Miss America. Here she is, here,
she here she is. You know what, Ellen, I'm surprised
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somebody said that in court. Here she is. But right
as she took the stand to start blabbing about how
she really did the investigators a favor by leaving behind
some blood. I'm finding out ek all about how the
murder went down, how the so called killer fiance, Patrick
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Frazy blindfolds Keltsye unsuspecting to get her to smell a
mystery candle and guess the scent. You know what? Hold on, Ellen,
you're still a young maiden. Ashley Willcott, you and I
have been married or together with our spouse is a
really long time. We've been through you. Rabbits that I
have just learned you feed with cheeseburgers, and I disapprove
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of that. Rabbits, cats, dogs, parents living with you, the
work's children. Long story short. If my husband came up
with a blindfold and said, close your eyes, I'm going
to blindfold you. You guess the mystery scent, I would say,
you know what, I'm calling your mother because you have
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gone out of your mind. Okay, So when he comes
up behind her and says, smell the mystery sent let
me blindfold you, what was she supposed to think? Ashley? Well,
why would she let him do it? Because I'm not blaming,
don't get me wrong, but honestly, I'm like you, maybe
close your eyes. Maybe hey, close your eyes and smell this,
right especially things like milk and a fridge closure, eyes
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smell of this, is it good or not? But you're
not going to say put a blindfold on. But I
have to go backwards, Nancy, to something that was said,
and that is that he claimed, apparently that he was
afraid she was abusing their one year old and he
wanted to divorce. Here's what I am so were married. Remember,
he could have just walked out right. That's what I'm
so tired of hearing in these crimes. Stop with the
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oh I need custody, and oh she's abusive to my child,
which she's not. There's no evidence of that, or oh
she's a bad person, she drinks. Stop with this that
justifies murdering. That's where I'm done. All you have to
do is walk away from that relationship. You know. I'm
just thinking about all his lies and excuses he's coming
up with like that somehow justifies beating her dead. This
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beautiful young mom of a one year old at the
grocery store trying to figure out a recipe to cook
for him. A flight instructor working her rear end off
to make ends meet, had just bought all on her
own town home condominium to raise her child in very
close to her family, would talk to them throughout the day,
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never missed work. To Ellen Colaurin Crime online dot Com
investigative reporter, you know I'm learning from Kardo there on
the scene. Blood was found outside the outside part of
the bathtub, on a wall beside the commode, on the
towel rack, the vanity, the bathroom mirror. Investigators say blue star,
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which is a type of has a type of acid
in it that will destroy DNA, and it's very, very
hard to destroy DNA. The blood found, of course, was
Kelsey's blood was everywhere, Ellen Colorin. Once they came in,
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and I recall predicting this. The brother came in and
found nothing. The cops came in and they ended up
spending the whole day and came out and said this
is where the crime happened. And I don't know if
you remember Aka at that time, I remember commenting they
had to find blood through luminol or trace examination, something
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the brother, Kelsey's brother couldn't see with the naked eye. Ellen,
what more can you tell me about the crime scene.
That's right, Nancy. They did use luminol and they did
find blood evidence all throughout the apartment. Everything that we
know about the manner in which Kelsey Barrett with a
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brutally murdered wi her daughter in the home, we know
from what Crystal Kenny told investigators, and that's because Frazy
told her in detail what he did to Kelsey Barrett.
I don't think I'm alone, Nancy, and struggling with Crystal
Kenny now turning around and trying to play the hero
and saying I intentionally left evidence behind in order to
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help the investigation, when if she really wanted to help
the investigation, she could have driven to a police station.
On September twenty third, which is the first time that
Patrick Crazy asked her to kill Kelsey Barrett, and that
story is very chilling to me. She did not poison
the Starbucks coffee like Frasey asked her to, but she
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knocked on Kelsey barth store and she spoke to her.
So Kelsey Breth met the woman who would later clean
up the blood from her own murder just a few
months later. That takes some backbone, and not in a
good way to go to the door of your lovers
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fiance trying to kill her. Ellen, Laura, what were the
different modes of death that the Rodeo Queen Chrystal Lee
Kinney had come up with, or that was foisted upon
her by Patrick Frazy. Apparently it was all Frazy's idea. First,
he wanted to drug her Starbucks coffee. The Chrystal Kenny's
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a nurse, she has access to dirugts. She brings her
the coffee, but she doesn't drug it. Then he gives
what she brings the coffee and doesn't drug it. Yes,
that's what she told investigators. You know what I was
just scaring back to Vincent Hill cop trum Pi. You
have to have to get rid of DNA. You can't
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just use bleach. That doesn't work. You have to use
something with meriadic acid in it. That's the only way
that a normal person can get rid of DNA. And
you can get that or at Low's or home depot.
Long story short, I'm not giving her an a plus
for leaving behind blood for the cops. Ye fine, I
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think she just didn't clean it, clean it all up,
and now she's spinning it to her advantage. That's right.
I give her an f because let's keep in mind, listen,
this was a very brutal crime. So I'm sure that
crime scene was very bloody. In my one prairians that
hopefully that first blow knocked Kelsey out and she didn't
have to suffer through how painful this would be. But
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I'm with you, Nancy, I think what really happened, Oh
she missed the spot here and there, and oh now
let me just make it look like, oh I left
this for you guys, because yeah, like he had selin
grata leaving the crimes leading up to the Witch's house.
You know, long story short, we still haven't discovered where
is Kelsey Barrett's body. All the testimony was today that
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the testimony was that he told Crystal Lee that he
was thinking about losing it either in a landfill or
in a river. And that's as much as it came
out in testimony today Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Police
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talked about searching Kelsey's home in Woodland Park, how the
first couple of times they were in her house, they
didn't see any signs of any criminal activity, They didn't
see any signs of blood, but that one of the
cadaver dogs at one point made a hit on a
car outside of Kelsey's apartment, the backside of a car
picked up on something, but at that point they hadn't
found anything. Then police say when Kelsey's family came in town,
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they noticed something strange, possibly blood in her bathroom, so
they went back and checked it again, and sure enough,
they said CBI was able to find and test samples
of blood in various spots throughout Kelsey's bathroom and that
it proved positive that it can that it matched Kelsey's DNA. Lastly,
as I walked out of the courtroom just now, they
just started discussing the relationship between that nurse and Idaho
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and Patrick Frazy. I'm again, her name is Crystal Lee Kenny.
This is somebody that investigators say new Patrick from years ago,
and that in recent months and even I think within
a year or so, had rekindled a relationship, and that
Kenny made several trips to Colorado even had been intimate
with Patrick while she was here. And that is the
point where I stepped out. So we're not sure yet
what they've revealed since that time, but lots of things
we're learning today about what investigators learned, how they tracked
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her phone, how they tested blood in a bathroom at
Kelsey's house, and this relationship Patrick potentially had with this
nurse from Idaho. You were hearing from our friends at
KUSA TV outside the Teller Kearny Courthouse. Wait a minute,
let me understand something, a k Ellen Klaura and Crime
online dot Com investigative reporter. So after he bludgeons Kelsey dead,
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after he blindfalls her and tells her to smell a
mystery candle. Oh, are you telling me that he brings
the rodeo queen Chris to Lee Kenny all the way
from Idaho as she comes of her own volition, and
then after killing Kelsey, they have sex. I'm just a
speechless and disbelief at this story. It's incredible that Patrick
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Frazy had a confidence. If Crystal Cunny's story is true,
he knew that he could call her on Thanksgiving Day
to tell her that she needs to clean up a
mass that he made and that she would come running,
and she did. She left the next day and she
arrived there to Kelsey's apartment on November twenty fourth, two
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days later. So that means that that awful, bloody scene
that she describes as sitting there sitting there for a
day and a half, and meanwhile, Patrick Frazy has taken
Kelsey's body, stuffed it into a black toepag and basically
kept it in storage until he can get rid of
the roomains with the help of his mistress. Okay, hold on,
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I want to talk about the body. And there's something
very dispassionate to me. Doctor William July, psychologist. You can
find him at doctor William July one word dot com.
Doctor July. Of sticking someone you've loved that has given
birth to your child, sticking her beat up, mushed up
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body into a tote bag and carrying her out, there's
just it's just so dispassionate, so cold, doctor July exactly.
And this is one of the things that as I
listened to this and watch this story develop, I would
like for everybody in the public to look at how
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he did what he did, hitting her with a baseball bat,
telling you the smell of candle, putting you in a
vulnerable position, blindfolded, so that so that I can bludgeon
you with a baseball bat. Okay, there's more to that
type of killing. If you just want to kill somebody,
there there are other ways to do it. But this
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implies that there's a malicious kind of anger and visceral
hate or something possibly that is taking place there, and
that's something that I'm sure the prosecutors are going to
focus on when they bring a psychologist in to testify
about this. You know, I just don't get it, asked
she Wilcott. Now, this is what Miss Rodeo Queen is saying. Now,
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she's saying that she although we know that she has
been quote in love with Patrick Frasey since I guess
they were in high school according to her friends, she
says she's starting a relationship in twenty eighteen and didn't
know about Kaylee and Kelsey. I don't believe that for
a minute. Until that summer she stayed with him. She says.
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Phrasey claimed Kelsey was a horrible mother and would be
abusive to Kelly, but he never filed a Defacts Department
Family Children's Service report ever or tell his family or
her family nothing about it. Nothing was ever said. And
then suddenly Phrasie wanted to Kenny to quote get rid
of Kelsey and told her she should poison Kelsey's caramel machiato.
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But Rodeo Queen says Phrasie asked her to poison the
drink because Kenny often carried around medications because she was
also a nurse. So she goes all the way, I
guess what, to meet the other woman to her front
door and give her a coffee without the poison. So
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I just don't understand her going along with all this,
and now she's getting a sweetheart deal. I don't get it, Ashley. Yeah,
So here's the thing, all right, So we all know
some women are attracted to quote unquote bad boys. That's
one thing. This is a criminal. This is someone who
was plotting to kill her for a very long time.
This woman not only should have run away, right, she
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also should have reported it to someone, to the police.
She should have done something about it. She should have
gone to Kelsey and said, hey, by the way, I
know your fiance and here's what he's saying. He wanted
me to do, he wants to do. There's so many
ways this murder could have been prevented. That's what makes
me so angry about this woman. And then on top
of that, like you suggested, she's getting a slap on
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the wrist. And so I don't understand why she's not
facing more severe charges because of her involvement. She was
complicit in this plan. She knew ahead of time he
intended to kill her in some manner. Do you not
understand why they are letting her get a free ride?
Listen to the prosecutor. Certainly she took a plea just
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a little while ago. That's in the public record, so
everybody can see that. They can use her testimony today
and certainly know one of the questions today is we
wouldn't even know where the murder happened in the apartment,
even which room, or where it happened at all without
her testimony. That was one of the questions elicited of
the law enforcement today. You've heard her cooperation, the information
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she provided, how much we knew, and how much she
actually provided to us. I think any member of the
public or yourselves can measure whether he could potentially happen
to her as appropriate or fair or right. But certainly
you've also heard through court and everybody can opine based
on the fact she'll put out there of what she
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has provided law enforcement. You asked a little bit about
potential charges. Certainly, if you're looking at an attempted murder count,
it has right in the Colorado's Statute that if you
abandon it, that is a defense to attempted murder. You
heard the evidence today of the three times, and each
time she did abandon it. But that's something you can
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ask your legal advisors of. Certainly, on the counts of solicitation,
she's not the one soliciting. You would charge the person
who's actually soliciting for that, not the necessarily the person
that they've solicited in terms of that. If that explains
at least some of the charges that may be going
through your mind. Yeah, there's a lot going through my
mind right now. Why this rodeo queen is getting a
free ride after she was part and parcel conspiring to
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kill this young mom three times before. But hey, there's
another woman involved in this scenario. I'm not talking about
Kelsey Barrett. I'm not talking about the little baby girl, Kelly.
I'm not talking about the rodeo queen. I'm talking about
Patrick Phrasey's mom talking about the toilet and the blood
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on the toilet that wasn't found until he was December
sixth as a test Monday today, and it was Kelsey's
mom or excuse me, Kelsey's brother who found it. What
happened is Kelsey's mother and brother came into town looking
for her, that they had moved into the house and
sometime early morning hours found the blood on the toilet.
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I guess the only other thing you noticed is the
person who was cleaning up the scene missed it too.
So there is a certain fortunate, the fortuitousness for the
law enforcement. Yes, law enforcement did not see it when
they went in there on the fourth, nor did nor
did the person cleaning up the seen see it on
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the twenty fourth, and likely for everybody. I guess the
brother did see it on the sixth. You are hearing
from the local district attorney, Dan Lee, explaining why cops
missed some of the blood in the bathroom. Thank goodness,
the family didn't. Speaking of family, Oh, it is all
in the family. Because Ellen Colaurin crimaline dot Com investigative reporter.
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We are hearing and this is all unfolding and a
court of law and a pre trial hearing. We're hearing
a lot right now about the girlfriend, the other girlfriend,
the rodeo queen. But there's another woman involved, maybe ten gently,
maybe on the fringes. Maybe she didn't have any idea
what was going on. But the district attorney, Dan May
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said that testimony would reveal that Kelsey's body was burned burned,
and that they had been Sheila Phrasie to go before
the judge as a witness, but that she insists on
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remaining silent and not speaking about what her son and
may have done. We're also learning the mother of Patrick Frasie,
according to some witnesses, was there for the quote burning.
Let me say that again. Just before journeying for lunch,
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the DA Dan May tried again to convince Judge Cells
that Phrasie's mother should testify. He said. The DA said
Phrasie's mother was present at the quote burning and seemed
to imply that Barret's body had been burned. Allen Claura
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and Crime Online. What do we know about Phrasie's mother?
What we know according to the testimony that was given
in court yesterday, Eila Frazy was at home during the
time on November twenty fourth, that Patrick Frazy on his
mistress burned evidence in a haystack, and prosecutors indicated that
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they absolutely believed that Kelsey Breth's body was a part
of that. And like you said, Mistress, the Rodeo queen
was there to burn Kelsey's body too. She had to
stand by there. She was there too. She was participating. Um,
like you said, Nancy, Maybe Sheila Prazy didn't know exactly
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what was going on, but she probably had the wherewithal
to put two and two together. When just a couple
of weeks later, Kelsey Barrett is reported missing and all
she has done so far is try and get custody
of that baby. She pleaded the fifth yesterday in court
and she did not have to testify. Slater returns to
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the stand, I assume as a an investigator, which turns
to the stand, and this is how all the evidence
came out about Crystal Kenny, the rodeo queen. The investigator
discussed with talked about Phrasie getting upset he's getting all
this from Kenny because Kenny didn't poison Keltzie in a
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drink in September. Then, when Kenny arrived in Colorado, she
asked Frasie what to do, and Phrasie said, Hey, you're smart,
you figure it out. Phrasie later tells her he had
a tool she could use and told her to use
a metal rod hit Bareth in the back of the head.
He says to Kenny, quote, it's not that hard, as
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she will caught if I could get close to him
and get my hands around his neck or frankly the
rodeo queen's neck. Because let me tell you something. The
other night, one of my twins, at just as we
were going to sleep, started crying. And I think they
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were tired. We'd stayed up like watching a movie, which
we shouldn't have done on a school night. They have
a lot of work at school, a lot of big projects,
and I think they were just tired, and they didn't
make a sound, but I looked over and saw one
of them was crying in the dark. You know what,
Kelly is not going to have her mom there. She's
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not going to have her dad there when she cries
in the dark at night or any other time when
she falls and then scrapes her knees when she's upset,
or somebody bullies her at school, which happens to everybody.
Just there is no replacement for a mother's love, and
she's never going to have that, Ashley, because of these
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two devils straight from hell. It makes it breaks my heart,
but really it makes me angry, very very angry. The
other piece of this, I have to say again, I'm
not blaming anyone other than him, the fiance and the
rodeo queen who was complicit. I don't care what they
say she was. But here's the thing I think, looking
back in retrospect, there are going to be individuals involved
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in this man's life who say, Wow, he did seem off,
This wasn't quite right, he was too cold, he was weird.
Whatever their gut tells them, they need to believe. So
moving forward, I think anyone needs to learn to trust
their gut and recognize if something feels off about a person,
it is well. Take a listen to this. And I
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want to hear you way in doctor William July, because
not only did he try to get her to poison
Kelsey with a caramel machiato, then he tells her to
use a steel rod. Then the investigator says, Phrasie says
she use a bat and told Kenny to just start
swinging when Barrett got home and put her body in
the dumpster. That was in October, and Kenny says she
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got a baseball bat from her home and went to
Barett's but then left and didn't do it. Kenny said,
Phrasie got mad at her and said, well, if you
can't do it. I guess I'll have to. I would
have said, fine, I won't do it. I guess you'll
have to. I mean, I just don't understand why she
kept going along through all this. Doctor William July, you know,
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and Nanswy you just said something that I wish everybody
who listens to your show will listen to that and
take it to heart. Behavior has a set of traits that, no,
this is not gonna be the first time people noticed
that this guy was weird, bizarre, strange, said weird things,
or had ideas that were that were not normal or
(35:34):
maybe even not safe. Listen to what people do around you,
watch what people do. You don't have to be paranoid,
but just pay attention to what people do. These sorts
of things should not be a surprise. There are anti
sdist to this kind of behavior. You know too, Vincent
hill Cop turned to Pi, author of playbook to a Murderer.
We also learned that before she goes to clean up
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Kelsey's home, the Rodeo queen Crystal Lee Kenny buys a
suit to stop bothering fluids from getting onto your body.
She bought a hairnet, booties, two trash bags bleach, and
I bought some gloves. According to the investigator, that she
brought the suit from the hospital and when she saw
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blood everywhere on the walls, all over the floors. There
was even blood on one year old Lord Kelly's toys.
You know what, That just makes me sick vincent, That
makes me sipico. Here's the biggest problem I'm having with this. Nancy,
she oh three times, she was implicated. Yeah, I was
gonna do it by a backed out. She's at the
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burn site. She's buying these chemical suits to dispose of
the body. Now, the only person saying is that she
didn't kill Kelsey is her. That's her story. But if
she was brave enough to go through three attempts, what's
to say she wasn't inside this home when this actually happened,
and she didn't participate in it. And maybe the prosecutors
just want Patrick as the bigger fish, so they're going
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with the story. But I don't believe you were so
brave that, Oh, I'm gonna poison you, I'm gonna beat
you at the bat, I'm burning your body. I'm here
with chemical suits and you had nothing to do with
the Nancy, I'm not buying it. Well, I'm telling you
you just laid out the entire defense. You laid out
the defense that the rodeo queen was insanely jealous of
Kelsey Barrett and did the deed herself. That is going
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to be the defense. You can put money on it.
Let's see what unfolds in a court of law. Nancy
Grace Crime Story signing off. Goodbye friend. Nancy Grace here
from crime online dot Com with breaking crime injustice news.
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Right now, we are going to Mississippi, friends and family
searching for a Mississippi mom, Danielle white Side Nipper and
joining me along with Ashley Wilcott, judge lawyer Tony Wade,
the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and Rescue. Tony,
you have been searching for Danielle. What's happening, Wellefully, we're
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having troublesome news behind shown the Sheriff's apartment is pretty
much pulling out of the case and not searching. They're
women to cooperate with us, didn't want to work with us.
They're just not doing anything. We were quite disgusted with
this fact. You know, we have a fifty one year
old woman that's missing that if somebody, if somebody's daughter,
somebody's sister, or somebody's mother, I think police to take
these matters a little bit more serious. Well, I don't
(38:31):
understand why the Sheriff's office would be pulling out ps everybody.
Let me give you the tip line. Six zero one
nine seven four twenty nine hundred repeat six zero one
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Nipper is the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and
Rescue Commander Tony Wade. Danielle Whiteside Nipper has faced a
(38:54):
lot of tough situations. She's a breast cancer survivor, she
is a recent widow, and now she's missing. Danielle last
seen on a Thursday at her home in Raymond, Mississippi.
A friend tells us that her teen daughter Grace saw
mom around ten thirty a m. That morning, and that
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Grace went back to sleep. They were having a day
off from school for just a few hours, but when
she woke up at two thirty, her mother is nowhere
to be seen. Now, since Danielle's husband passed away, Danielle
and her daughter moved to a nearby home, and Grace
said she asked their roommates where's mom, and no one
knew where she was. Her car, keys, wallet, and cell
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phone all still in the home. Then, when evening came
and Danielle nowhere to be seen, her little girl gets
scared and reports Mommy missing. I've got such a bad,
bad feeling. Commander of the Cajun Coach Search and Rescue,
Tony Waite, what can you tell me? Where have you
(40:00):
guys been searching? Well, we search areas all around the
home that she was last seen, you know, but look
out with police not I wanted to work with us, say,
and they so hard that we just we can't come
from the old search areas. We don't know where whether
they were seen, or whether the cell phone teams were
or anything. They just they won't release any of that information.
They just won't. They get nothing but a run around.
They're not actively searching at all, So we just don't
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know where else to search, where else to go? Oh man,
There's been an atystic ground search of many properties, including woods, creeks, ponds,
no evidence so far. They covered an area about three
square miles. Volunteers all joining together at that time with
Hines County Sheriff's Department. You know to ask you Woolcott, judge, lawyer,
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anchor you can find her at aske you Wolcott dot
com and Mom, there is no way this mom just
leaves her team girl behind and and disappears without her
cell phone, her purse, her car, her keys, nothing one
hundred percent agree with you, Nancy. And I'm gonna say
what I always say, which is somebody knows something. Somebody
knows what happened to this woman, and I cannot fathom
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why police would not use all resources to find her.
Danielle white Side Nipper a beautiful mom of one teen girl.
Last thing wearing maroon sweatpants, a white tshirt, Nike shoes.
She's about five five, she weighs about one hundred and
forty pounds. Her hair is tinted dark. She's got brown eyes,
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beautiful smile. Last seen by her daughter, keys, wallet, cell phone,
and car left behind. That tells me she was either
out going for a walk or jogging, or was taken
from the home. What does it tell you, Commander Wade,
There's a lot of things point a band direction here.
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You know understand that there was an argument with a
roommate that morning. That doesn't feel good about it. I
don't either, probably involved here and she's missing. It's just
there's just too many things to point the wrong direction
in this case. You know, this woman has disappeared under
very unusual circumstances, according to authorities. We're talking about a
mom last scene on Ranger Road near Raymond. This is
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a white female five five, brown eyes, about one hundred
and forty pounds, shoulder length, hair tinted dark last scene
wearing maroon sweatpants, white tshirt, Nike Tennis shoes. Unusual circumstances.
Does that mean, Commander Tony Wade the argument with the roommates.
I'm just thinking about her. She survived breast cancer. Now
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her husband suddenly passes away, they can't afford the house,
they move in with roommates, and now she's gone, Tony,
what do they mean by unusual circumstances? You know, there
was there was some arguments between her and the roommates
that that morning, a little money. He'd got an insurance
check in, you know, and all of a sudden few vanishes.
Did you say an insurance check? You know? They north happened. Yes,
he had a roofer car and she had just received
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an interest case. Uh oh, right there. Do we know
if that check has been cast by anyone? The check
has been cast? Uh oh, I smell a money motive.
Las cast a morning that you come and listen. Yeah, okay,
there you go. Now. I want to see their surveillance
video at the bank. I want to see it all
to track her movements. Who cash that check? Who signed
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With Nancy Grace, we heard evidence that Patrick Frazy contacted
Crystal Lee in Idaho on three separate occasions, had her
come to Colorado to murder Kelsey on September twenty third
October fifteenth. In October twenty first, Crystal told investigators that
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Patrick first and September asked that Crystal put poison or
something in the Starbucks coffee give that to Kelsey so
that Kelsey would no longer be a problem. Then, when
that didn't work and Patrick was angry with Crystal, he
then on October fifteenth, had Crystal come back to Colorado,
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provided her with a pipe by which Crystal was to
strike Kelsey, killing her, And when that didn't work, Patrick
then solicited Crystal again to come back on October twenty
first with a baseball bat to kill Kelsey. Crystal tells
(02:45):
investigators that she did not comply with any of those
and at the last time, when she was here on
October twenty first, she sat and said I can't do
this and tells Patrick I can't do this. And then
we hear from Michelle Stein that there's a phone call
on October twenty second, where Crystal is very upset and
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says she's done. Wow, what a difference a day makes.
As you all know by now, the so called killer fiance,
Patrick Frasy, suspected in the death of a beautiful Colorado
mom of one, a one year old little girl, Kelly.
She was last seen at the grocery store with Kelly
in the grocery cart, calling her mom asking about her
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recipe she planned to cook that night. Had she invited
Patrick Frasy over The two were a long time loves
and then mysteriously she disappears. You're hearing from the Assistant
District Attorney Jennifer Veeman. There all this coming out in
court from no one less than Patrick Fras's other mistress,
(03:57):
a divorced mom of two rodeo queen slash nurse. I'm
Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
with us. This is what you get when you ask
somebody else to do your dirty work. That's right straight
out to Ellen colorin Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter,
what happened? What we learned at the preliminary hearing for
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Patrick Freeze yesterday was that Crystal Lee Kenny, who had
previously pleaded guilty to one count of tampering with evidence,
was involved at many different steps of the way in
this murder. Okay, wait wait, wait, back up, back it up,
Back it up. Ellen, she's got one count of tampering
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with evidence. Hey, you know what, let's just start with
the big bombshell. We learned in Corey yesterday that the
killer fiance Patrick Frasey allegedly blindfolded his fiance Kelsey Barrett
the Mom to get her to smell a mystery candle
and guess the scent. He blindfalls her and sound like
(05:01):
loving sexy way, and then when she's gonna smell the candle,
he takes a baseball bat and beats her head in
Ashley Wilcot judge lawyer anchor Ashley Wilcot dot com that
would be the last time I ever smell a candle.
To Hey, with that, I don't even know where to start.
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First of all, a blind cold. If David walks up
to move the blindfold, I'm like, fine, turn amound, I'll
put it on you. I Am not putting on a blindfold,
forget it. Put it can smell this candle's sweetheart. And
then beats her head in with a baseball bat. Yeah,
it's unfathomable to me. The other thing I want to
say is, you know, thank god he was deciding to
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have this affair and get her complicit in this simply
so she could come forward and we could know the
truth about what happened to this woman. Eka Ellen klaurin
crime online dot Com Investigate every reporter. I was hearing
the assistant prosecutor Jennifer Veeman saying that he had tried
to get the Rodeo queen, as I call her, Crystal
Lee Kenny to come to Colorado three times in October
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to kill Kelsey Barrett. Why why kill Kelsey Barrett? And
why on the third time you think was the charm?
Why didn't he just stop right there? I mean, he
had plenty of time to figure out, Hey, you know what,
this is a bad idea. That's right, Nancy. There was
plenty of time for him to stop, for her to
stop participating. And his reasoning, according to the testimony that
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Kenny gave police, is that he thought that Kelsey Barrett
was crazy, that she had a drinking problem which was
in the which has not been proven, and that he
was afraid that she was going to hurt their baby,
and he wanted custody of the baby drinking problem. Drinking problem.
She did not have a drinking problem that nobody has established.
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That he's just saying that to get Crystal Lee Kenny,
the rodeo Queen on board. And another thing to doctor
William July, psychologist at doctor William July dot com, Doctor July,
I don't understand why she's going along with it, and
now she's getting one charge of tampering. So he beats
her dead with a baseball bat. And then he, according
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to what we learned in court in the last hours,
goes and has Thanksgiving dinner with his family, washes his
hands of all the blood and leaves leaves her there,
sits down and has turkey dressing, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin
pie with his family like nothing's happening. Then he calls
this girl, the rodeo queen. Crystal Kenny goes, you got
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a mess to clean up, and she allegedly drives all
the way from Twin Falls, Gooding and Idaho and comes
all the way that she drives there to clean up
a blood soaked condo. And she says and I left
some blood for cops to find. Like, I'm gonna give
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her a gold star. I'm beside myself. She's all up
in this and why is she getting this light? Please?
I don't get it. They're in this together. She's the
one that sent those fake texts from Kelsey Barra's phone
to throw police off the track. And she's the one
that cleaned up all the blood. She says she tried.
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She went there to Kelsey's home three times with the
intent to kill Kelsey, once with a poisoned coffee or
some bs like that. Why daughter, did you lie? Is
a woman that desperate for let me just say, ephimistically
love this. She'll do anything. Really, Wow, Nancy, this is
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just so disturbing. It's not love. First of all, it's
not love. This is a what this what's happening here
is an intersection, is a perfect destructive, horrible intersection between
two personality types that went together. One is going to
be totally manipulated and the other is going as a
person who's narcissistic, manipulative, and probably psychopathic. And when those
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types of personalities can be very charming and very very strong,
and if connected with the person who has a weaker personality.
I'm talking, you know, very weak personality. These types of
things can happen people. We see it over and over.
People do horrific things at the under the commands. It's
not brainwashing. It's just an actual intersection of two It's
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a perfect storm. I don't think it was brainwashing because
they didn't even live together. It wasn't like she had
Stockholm syndrome or anything to live hours and hours apart exactly.
You know, to Vincent Hill, it's not Stockholm syndrome. Vincent Hill,
former cop turned a private investigator, author of playbook to
a murder on Amazon. Vincent Hill, I've seen it before
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as well. People do things when they are in groups
that they would never do when they if they were alone.
They get together, especially duos, they get together and they
commit atrocities. One, as doctor Juli was saying, usually does
have the stronger personality. Have you seen that, Vincent Hill? Yeah, absolutely, Nancy,
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I've seen that. And to your point, I don't think
either one of those separately, Patrick or as you call her,
the Rodeo Queen, would have been brave enough to attempt
this by themselves. They needed to act together on this
and the whole thing about, Oh, we we're gonna poison
her coffee, her Starbucks coffee. That's just sick, Nancy, It's
really sick, crystaland tells us that on October I'm sorry,
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November twenty second Thanksgiving, Patrick kills Kelsey in a horrific
manner with a bat in the back of the head
as Kelsey is sniffing handles with a blindfold over her eyes.
Crystal tells us that Patrick then calls her after he
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has put Kelsey in a black plastic tote, calls Crystal
to come out and help him clean up. She does
not come out that day. She cannot come out that day,
but she does come out on October twenty fourth, and
as Crystal describes, when she walks into Kelsey's condo, the
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scene is horrific. There's blood everywhere, there are bloody footprints everywhere,
and Crystal cleans up blood but leaves behind some telltale
evidence for our investigators to find. You're hearing the assistant
prosecutor that is Jennifer Veemon's I don't know that I'm
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giving let me go to Ellen klaurin Crime online dot
Com investigative reporter, I don't know that I'm giving the
Rodeo coint What was her title? Out to Allan Deaton
joining me from La Guys, I haven't even introduced our
all star annel with me. Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer. You
can find her at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Doctor William July,
(12:06):
renowned psychologist. You can find him at doctor William July
dot com. Former cop turned PI, author of playbook to
a Murder, Vincent Hill, and Ellen colorin Crime online dot com,
investigative reporter at Crime online dot com. You can find
all breaking news in crime and justice here in the studio,
Jackie Howard and joining me from La Allen, Allen, what
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was her Rodeo queen title? Please? In two thousand and eight,
she was selected as the Magic Valley Stamped Queen. That
is the official title. You know, the way you say that,
I think Bert Parks has any fell in. I could
just see you announcing at Miss America. Here she is, here,
she here she is. You know what, Ellen, I'm surprised
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somebody said that in court. Here she is. But right
as she took the stand to start blabbing about how
she really did the investigators a favor by leaving behind
some blood. I'm finding out ek all about how the
murder went down, how the so called killer fiance, Patrick
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Frazy blindfolds Keltsye unsuspecting to get her to smell a
mystery candle and guess the scent. You know what? Hold on, Ellen,
you're still a young maiden. Ashley Willcott, you and I
have been married or together with our spouse is a
really long time. We've been through you. Rabbits that I
have just learned you feed with cheeseburgers, and I disapprove
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of that. Rabbits, cats, dogs, parents living with you, the
work's children. Long story short. If my husband came up
with a blindfold and said, close your eyes, I'm going
to blindfold you. You guess the mystery scent, I would say,
you know what, I'm calling your mother because you have
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gone out of your mind. Okay, So when he comes
up behind her and says, smell the mystery sent let
me blindfold you, what was she supposed to think? Ashley? Well,
why would she let him do it? Because I'm not blaming,
don't get me wrong, but honestly, I'm like you, maybe
close your eyes. Maybe hey, close your eyes and smell this,
right especially things like milk and a fridge closure, eyes
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smell of this, is it good or not? But you're
not going to say put a blindfold on. But I
have to go backwards, Nancy, to something that was said,
and that is that he claimed, apparently that he was
afraid she was abusing their one year old and he
wanted to divorce. Here's what I am so were married. Remember,
he could have just walked out right. That's what I'm
so tired of hearing in these crimes. Stop with the
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oh I need custody, and oh she's abusive to my child,
which she's not. There's no evidence of that, or oh
she's a bad person, she drinks. Stop with this that
justifies murdering. That's where I'm done. All you have to
do is walk away from that relationship. You know. I'm
just thinking about all his lies and excuses he's coming
up with like that somehow justifies beating her dead. This
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beautiful young mom of a one year old at the
grocery store trying to figure out a recipe to cook
for him. A flight instructor working her rear end off
to make ends meet, had just bought all on her
own town home condominium to raise her child in very
close to her family, would talk to them throughout the day,
(15:25):
never missed work. To Ellen Colaurin Crime online dot Com
investigative reporter, you know I'm learning from Kardo there on
the scene. Blood was found outside the outside part of
the bathtub, on a wall beside the commode, on the
towel rack, the vanity, the bathroom mirror. Investigators say blue star,
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which is a type of has a type of acid
in it that will destroy DNA, and it's very, very
hard to destroy DNA. The blood found, of course, was
Kelsey's blood was everywhere, Ellen Colorin. Once they came in,
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and I recall predicting this. The brother came in and
found nothing. The cops came in and they ended up
spending the whole day and came out and said this
is where the crime happened. And I don't know if
you remember Aka at that time, I remember commenting they
had to find blood through luminol or trace examination, something
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the brother, Kelsey's brother couldn't see with the naked eye. Ellen,
what more can you tell me about the crime scene.
That's right, Nancy. They did use luminol and they did
find blood evidence all throughout the apartment. Everything that we
know about the manner in which Kelsey Barrett with a
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brutally murdered wi her daughter in the home, we know
from what Crystal Kenny told investigators, and that's because Frazy
told her in detail what he did to Kelsey Barrett.
I don't think I'm alone, Nancy, and struggling with Crystal
Kenny now turning around and trying to play the hero
and saying I intentionally left evidence behind in order to
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help the investigation, when if she really wanted to help
the investigation, she could have driven to a police station.
On September twenty third, which is the first time that
Patrick Crazy asked her to kill Kelsey Barrett, and that
story is very chilling to me. She did not poison
the Starbucks coffee like Frasey asked her to, but she
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knocked on Kelsey barth store and she spoke to her.
So Kelsey Breth met the woman who would later clean
up the blood from her own murder just a few
months later. That takes some backbone, and not in a
good way to go to the door of your lovers
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fiance trying to kill her. Ellen, Laura, what were the
different modes of death that the Rodeo Queen Chrystal Lee
Kinney had come up with, or that was foisted upon
her by Patrick Frazy. Apparently it was all Frazy's idea. First,
he wanted to drug her Starbucks coffee. The Chrystal Kenny's
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a nurse, she has access to dirugts. She brings her
the coffee, but she doesn't drug it. Then he gives
what she brings the coffee and doesn't drug it. Yes,
that's what she told investigators. You know what I was
just scaring back to Vincent Hill cop trum Pi. You
have to have to get rid of DNA. You can't
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just use bleach. That doesn't work. You have to use
something with meriadic acid in it. That's the only way
that a normal person can get rid of DNA. And
you can get that or at Low's or home depot.
Long story short, I'm not giving her an a plus
for leaving behind blood for the cops. Ye fine, I
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think she just didn't clean it, clean it all up,
and now she's spinning it to her advantage. That's right.
I give her an f because let's keep in mind, listen,
this was a very brutal crime. So I'm sure that
crime scene was very bloody. In my one prairians that
hopefully that first blow knocked Kelsey out and she didn't
have to suffer through how painful this would be. But
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I'm with you, Nancy, I think what really happened, Oh
she missed the spot here and there, and oh now
let me just make it look like, oh I left
this for you guys, because yeah, like he had selin
grata leaving the crimes leading up to the Witch's house.
You know, long story short, we still haven't discovered where
is Kelsey Barrett's body. All the testimony was today that
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the testimony was that he told Crystal Lee that he
was thinking about losing it either in a landfill or
in a river. And that's as much as it came
out in testimony today Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Police
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talked about searching Kelsey's home in Woodland Park, how the
first couple of times they were in her house, they
didn't see any signs of any criminal activity, They didn't
see any signs of blood, but that one of the
cadaver dogs at one point made a hit on a
car outside of Kelsey's apartment, the backside of a car
picked up on something, but at that point they hadn't
found anything. Then police say when Kelsey's family came in town,
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they noticed something strange, possibly blood in her bathroom, so
they went back and checked it again, and sure enough,
they said CBI was able to find and test samples
of blood in various spots throughout Kelsey's bathroom and that
it proved positive that it can that it matched Kelsey's DNA. Lastly,
as I walked out of the courtroom just now, they
just started discussing the relationship between that nurse and Idaho
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and Patrick Frazy. I'm again, her name is Crystal Lee Kenny.
This is somebody that investigators say new Patrick from years ago,
and that in recent months and even I think within
a year or so, had rekindled a relationship, and that
Kenny made several trips to Colorado even had been intimate
with Patrick while she was here. And that is the
point where I stepped out. So we're not sure yet
what they've revealed since that time, but lots of things
we're learning today about what investigators learned, how they tracked
(21:28):
her phone, how they tested blood in a bathroom at
Kelsey's house, and this relationship Patrick potentially had with this
nurse from Idaho. You were hearing from our friends at
KUSA TV outside the Teller Kearny Courthouse. Wait a minute,
let me understand something, a k Ellen Klaura and Crime
online dot Com investigative reporter. So after he bludgeons Kelsey dead,
(21:50):
after he blindfalls her and tells her to smell a
mystery candle. Oh, are you telling me that he brings
the rodeo queen Chris to Lee Kenny all the way
from Idaho as she comes of her own volition, and
then after killing Kelsey, they have sex. I'm just a
speechless and disbelief at this story. It's incredible that Patrick
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Frazy had a confidence. If Crystal Cunny's story is true,
he knew that he could call her on Thanksgiving Day
to tell her that she needs to clean up a
mass that he made and that she would come running,
and she did. She left the next day and she
arrived there to Kelsey's apartment on November twenty fourth, two
(22:32):
days later. So that means that that awful, bloody scene
that she describes as sitting there sitting there for a
day and a half, and meanwhile, Patrick Frazy has taken
Kelsey's body, stuffed it into a black toepag and basically
kept it in storage until he can get rid of
the roomains with the help of his mistress. Okay, hold on,
(22:53):
I want to talk about the body. And there's something
very dispassionate to me. Doctor William July, psychologist. You can
find him at doctor William July one word dot com.
Doctor July. Of sticking someone you've loved that has given
birth to your child, sticking her beat up, mushed up
(23:14):
body into a tote bag and carrying her out, there's
just it's just so dispassionate, so cold, doctor July exactly.
And this is one of the things that as I
listened to this and watch this story develop, I would
like for everybody in the public to look at how
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he did what he did, hitting her with a baseball bat,
telling you the smell of candle, putting you in a
vulnerable position, blindfolded, so that so that I can bludgeon
you with a baseball bat. Okay, there's more to that
type of killing. If you just want to kill somebody,
there there are other ways to do it. But this
(23:56):
implies that there's a malicious kind of anger and visceral
hate or something possibly that is taking place there, and
that's something that I'm sure the prosecutors are going to
focus on when they bring a psychologist in to testify
about this. You know, I just don't get it, asked
she Wilcott. Now, this is what Miss Rodeo Queen is saying. Now,
(24:17):
she's saying that she although we know that she has
been quote in love with Patrick Frasey since I guess
they were in high school according to her friends, she
says she's starting a relationship in twenty eighteen and didn't
know about Kaylee and Kelsey. I don't believe that for
a minute. Until that summer she stayed with him. She says.
(24:39):
Phrasey claimed Kelsey was a horrible mother and would be
abusive to Kelly, but he never filed a Defacts Department
Family Children's Service report ever or tell his family or
her family nothing about it. Nothing was ever said. And
then suddenly Phrasie wanted to Kenny to quote get rid
of Kelsey and told her she should poison Kelsey's caramel machiato.
(25:03):
But Rodeo Queen says Phrasie asked her to poison the
drink because Kenny often carried around medications because she was
also a nurse. So she goes all the way, I
guess what, to meet the other woman to her front
door and give her a coffee without the poison. So
(25:24):
I just don't understand her going along with all this,
and now she's getting a sweetheart deal. I don't get it, Ashley. Yeah,
So here's the thing, all right, So we all know
some women are attracted to quote unquote bad boys. That's
one thing. This is a criminal. This is someone who
was plotting to kill her for a very long time.
This woman not only should have run away, right, she
(25:45):
also should have reported it to someone, to the police.
She should have done something about it. She should have
gone to Kelsey and said, hey, by the way, I
know your fiance and here's what he's saying. He wanted
me to do, he wants to do. There's so many
ways this murder could have been prevented. That's what makes
me so angry about this woman. And then on top
of that, like you suggested, she's getting a slap on
(26:05):
the wrist. And so I don't understand why she's not
facing more severe charges because of her involvement. She was
complicit in this plan. She knew ahead of time he
intended to kill her in some manner. Do you not
understand why they are letting her get a free ride?
Listen to the prosecutor. Certainly she took a plea just
(26:26):
a little while ago. That's in the public record, so
everybody can see that. They can use her testimony today
and certainly know one of the questions today is we
wouldn't even know where the murder happened in the apartment,
even which room, or where it happened at all without
her testimony. That was one of the questions elicited of
the law enforcement today. You've heard her cooperation, the information
(26:47):
she provided, how much we knew, and how much she
actually provided to us. I think any member of the
public or yourselves can measure whether he could potentially happen
to her as appropriate or fair or right. But certainly
you've also heard through court and everybody can opine based
on the fact she'll put out there of what she
(27:07):
has provided law enforcement. You asked a little bit about
potential charges. Certainly, if you're looking at an attempted murder count,
it has right in the Colorado's Statute that if you
abandon it, that is a defense to attempted murder. You
heard the evidence today of the three times, and each
time she did abandon it. But that's something you can
(27:31):
ask your legal advisors of. Certainly, on the counts of solicitation,
she's not the one soliciting. You would charge the person
who's actually soliciting for that, not the necessarily the person
that they've solicited in terms of that. If that explains
at least some of the charges that may be going
through your mind. Yeah, there's a lot going through my
mind right now. Why this rodeo queen is getting a
free ride after she was part and parcel conspiring to
(27:57):
kill this young mom three times before. But hey, there's
another woman involved in this scenario. I'm not talking about
Kelsey Barrett. I'm not talking about the little baby girl, Kelly.
I'm not talking about the rodeo queen. I'm talking about
Patrick Phrasey's mom talking about the toilet and the blood
(28:19):
on the toilet that wasn't found until he was December
sixth as a test Monday today, and it was Kelsey's
mom or excuse me, Kelsey's brother who found it. What
happened is Kelsey's mother and brother came into town looking
for her, that they had moved into the house and
sometime early morning hours found the blood on the toilet.
(28:41):
I guess the only other thing you noticed is the
person who was cleaning up the scene missed it too.
So there is a certain fortunate, the fortuitousness for the
law enforcement. Yes, law enforcement did not see it when
they went in there on the fourth, nor did nor
did the person cleaning up the seen see it on
(29:01):
the twenty fourth, and likely for everybody. I guess the
brother did see it on the sixth. You are hearing
from the local district attorney, Dan Lee, explaining why cops
missed some of the blood in the bathroom. Thank goodness,
the family didn't. Speaking of family, Oh, it is all
in the family. Because Ellen Colaurin crimaline dot Com investigative reporter.
(29:23):
We are hearing and this is all unfolding and a
court of law and a pre trial hearing. We're hearing
a lot right now about the girlfriend, the other girlfriend,
the rodeo queen. But there's another woman involved, maybe ten gently,
maybe on the fringes. Maybe she didn't have any idea
what was going on. But the district attorney, Dan May
(29:46):
said that testimony would reveal that Kelsey's body was burned burned,
and that they had been Sheila Phrasie to go before
the judge as a witness, but that she insists on
(30:08):
remaining silent and not speaking about what her son and
may have done. We're also learning the mother of Patrick Frasie,
according to some witnesses, was there for the quote burning.
Let me say that again. Just before journeying for lunch,
(30:29):
the DA Dan May tried again to convince Judge Cells
that Phrasie's mother should testify. He said. The DA said
Phrasie's mother was present at the quote burning and seemed
to imply that Barret's body had been burned. Allen Claura
(30:50):
and Crime Online. What do we know about Phrasie's mother?
What we know according to the testimony that was given
in court yesterday, Eila Frazy was at home during the
time on November twenty fourth, that Patrick Frazy on his
mistress burned evidence in a haystack, and prosecutors indicated that
(31:12):
they absolutely believed that Kelsey Breth's body was a part
of that. And like you said, Mistress, the Rodeo queen
was there to burn Kelsey's body too. She had to
stand by there. She was there too. She was participating. Um,
like you said, Nancy, Maybe Sheila Prazy didn't know exactly
(31:33):
what was going on, but she probably had the wherewithal
to put two and two together. When just a couple
of weeks later, Kelsey Barrett is reported missing and all
she has done so far is try and get custody
of that baby. She pleaded the fifth yesterday in court
and she did not have to testify. Slater returns to
(31:55):
the stand, I assume as a an investigator, which turns
to the stand, and this is how all the evidence
came out about Crystal Kenny, the rodeo queen. The investigator
discussed with talked about Phrasie getting upset he's getting all
this from Kenny because Kenny didn't poison Keltzie in a
(32:16):
drink in September. Then, when Kenny arrived in Colorado, she
asked Frasie what to do, and Phrasie said, Hey, you're smart,
you figure it out. Phrasie later tells her he had
a tool she could use and told her to use
a metal rod hit Bareth in the back of the head.
He says to Kenny, quote, it's not that hard, as
(32:40):
she will caught if I could get close to him
and get my hands around his neck or frankly the
rodeo queen's neck. Because let me tell you something. The
other night, one of my twins, at just as we
were going to sleep, started crying. And I think they
(33:00):
were tired. We'd stayed up like watching a movie, which
we shouldn't have done on a school night. They have
a lot of work at school, a lot of big projects,
and I think they were just tired, and they didn't
make a sound, but I looked over and saw one
of them was crying in the dark. You know what,
Kelly is not going to have her mom there. She's
(33:22):
not going to have her dad there when she cries
in the dark at night or any other time when
she falls and then scrapes her knees when she's upset,
or somebody bullies her at school, which happens to everybody.
Just there is no replacement for a mother's love, and
she's never going to have that, Ashley, because of these
(33:45):
two devils straight from hell. It makes it breaks my heart,
but really it makes me angry, very very angry. The
other piece of this, I have to say again, I'm
not blaming anyone other than him, the fiance and the
rodeo queen who was complicit. I don't care what they
say she was. But here's the thing I think, looking
back in retrospect, there are going to be individuals involved
(34:07):
in this man's life who say, Wow, he did seem off,
This wasn't quite right, he was too cold, he was weird.
Whatever their gut tells them, they need to believe. So
moving forward, I think anyone needs to learn to trust
their gut and recognize if something feels off about a person,
it is well. Take a listen to this. And I
(34:29):
want to hear you way in doctor William July, because
not only did he try to get her to poison
Kelsey with a caramel machiato, then he tells her to
use a steel rod. Then the investigator says, Phrasie says
she use a bat and told Kenny to just start
swinging when Barrett got home and put her body in
the dumpster. That was in October, and Kenny says she
(34:51):
got a baseball bat from her home and went to
Barett's but then left and didn't do it. Kenny said,
Phrasie got mad at her and said, well, if you
can't do it. I guess I'll have to. I would
have said, fine, I won't do it. I guess you'll
have to. I mean, I just don't understand why she
kept going along through all this. Doctor William July, you know,
(35:12):
and Nanswy you just said something that I wish everybody
who listens to your show will listen to that and
take it to heart. Behavior has a set of traits that, no,
this is not gonna be the first time people noticed
that this guy was weird, bizarre, strange, said weird things,
or had ideas that were that were not normal or
(35:34):
maybe even not safe. Listen to what people do around you,
watch what people do. You don't have to be paranoid,
but just pay attention to what people do. These sorts
of things should not be a surprise. There are anti
sdist to this kind of behavior. You know too, Vincent
hill Cop turned to Pi, author of playbook to a Murderer.
We also learned that before she goes to clean up
(35:57):
Kelsey's home, the Rodeo queen Crystal Lee Kenny buys a
suit to stop bothering fluids from getting onto your body.
She bought a hairnet, booties, two trash bags bleach, and
I bought some gloves. According to the investigator, that she
brought the suit from the hospital and when she saw
(36:18):
blood everywhere on the walls, all over the floors. There
was even blood on one year old Lord Kelly's toys.
You know what, That just makes me sick vincent, That
makes me sipico. Here's the biggest problem I'm having with this. Nancy,
she oh three times, she was implicated. Yeah, I was
gonna do it by a backed out. She's at the
(36:39):
burn site. She's buying these chemical suits to dispose of
the body. Now, the only person saying is that she
didn't kill Kelsey is her. That's her story. But if
she was brave enough to go through three attempts, what's
to say she wasn't inside this home when this actually happened,
and she didn't participate in it. And maybe the prosecutors
just want Patrick as the bigger fish, so they're going
(37:01):
with the story. But I don't believe you were so
brave that, Oh, I'm gonna poison you, I'm gonna beat
you at the bat, I'm burning your body. I'm here
with chemical suits and you had nothing to do with
the Nancy, I'm not buying it. Well, I'm telling you
you just laid out the entire defense. You laid out
the defense that the rodeo queen was insanely jealous of
Kelsey Barrett and did the deed herself. That is going
(37:25):
to be the defense. You can put money on it.
Let's see what unfolds in a court of law. Nancy
Grace Crime Story signing off. Goodbye friend. Nancy Grace here
from crime online dot Com with breaking crime injustice news.
(37:50):
Right now, we are going to Mississippi, friends and family
searching for a Mississippi mom, Danielle white Side Nipper and
joining me along with Ashley Wilcott, judge lawyer Tony Wade,
the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and Rescue. Tony,
you have been searching for Danielle. What's happening, Wellefully, we're
(38:11):
having troublesome news behind shown the Sheriff's apartment is pretty
much pulling out of the case and not searching. They're
women to cooperate with us, didn't want to work with us.
They're just not doing anything. We were quite disgusted with
this fact. You know, we have a fifty one year
old woman that's missing that if somebody, if somebody's daughter,
somebody's sister, or somebody's mother, I think police to take
these matters a little bit more serious. Well, I don't
(38:31):
understand why the Sheriff's office would be pulling out ps everybody.
Let me give you the tip line. Six zero one
nine seven four twenty nine hundred repeat six zero one
nine seven four twenty nine hundred. Still searching for Danielle Whiteside.
Nipper is the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and
Rescue Commander Tony Wade. Danielle Whiteside Nipper has faced a
(38:54):
lot of tough situations. She's a breast cancer survivor, she
is a recent widow, and now she's missing. Danielle last
seen on a Thursday at her home in Raymond, Mississippi.
A friend tells us that her teen daughter Grace saw
mom around ten thirty a m. That morning, and that
(39:17):
Grace went back to sleep. They were having a day
off from school for just a few hours, but when
she woke up at two thirty, her mother is nowhere
to be seen. Now, since Danielle's husband passed away, Danielle
and her daughter moved to a nearby home, and Grace
said she asked their roommates where's mom, and no one
knew where she was. Her car, keys, wallet, and cell
(39:40):
phone all still in the home. Then, when evening came
and Danielle nowhere to be seen, her little girl gets
scared and reports Mommy missing. I've got such a bad,
bad feeling. Commander of the Cajun Coach Search and Rescue,
Tony Waite, what can you tell me? Where have you
(40:00):
guys been searching? Well, we search areas all around the
home that she was last seen, you know, but look
out with police not I wanted to work with us, say,
and they so hard that we just we can't come
from the old search areas. We don't know where whether
they were seen, or whether the cell phone teams were
or anything. They just they won't release any of that information.
They just won't. They get nothing but a run around.
They're not actively searching at all, So we just don't
(40:23):
know where else to search, where else to go? Oh man,
There's been an atystic ground search of many properties, including woods, creeks, ponds,
no evidence so far. They covered an area about three
square miles. Volunteers all joining together at that time with
Hines County Sheriff's Department. You know to ask you Woolcott, judge, lawyer,
(40:45):
anchor you can find her at aske you Wolcott dot
com and Mom, there is no way this mom just
leaves her team girl behind and and disappears without her
cell phone, her purse, her car, her keys, nothing one
hundred percent agree with you, Nancy. And I'm gonna say
what I always say, which is somebody knows something. Somebody
knows what happened to this woman, and I cannot fathom
(41:08):
why police would not use all resources to find her.
Danielle white Side Nipper a beautiful mom of one teen girl.
Last thing wearing maroon sweatpants, a white tshirt, Nike shoes.
She's about five five, she weighs about one hundred and
forty pounds. Her hair is tinted dark. She's got brown eyes,
(41:31):
beautiful smile. Last seen by her daughter, keys, wallet, cell phone,
and car left behind. That tells me she was either
out going for a walk or jogging, or was taken
from the home. What does it tell you, Commander Wade,
There's a lot of things point a band direction here.
(41:51):
You know understand that there was an argument with a
roommate that morning. That doesn't feel good about it. I
don't either, probably involved here and she's missing. It's just
there's just too many things to point the wrong direction
in this case. You know, this woman has disappeared under
very unusual circumstances, according to authorities. We're talking about a
mom last scene on Ranger Road near Raymond. This is
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a white female five five, brown eyes, about one hundred
and forty pounds, shoulder length, hair tinted dark last scene
wearing maroon sweatpants, white tshirt, Nike Tennis shoes. Unusual circumstances.
Does that mean, Commander Tony Wade the argument with the roommates.
I'm just thinking about her. She survived breast cancer. Now
(42:37):
her husband suddenly passes away, they can't afford the house,
they move in with roommates, and now she's gone, Tony,
what do they mean by unusual circumstances? You know, there
was there was some arguments between her and the roommates
that that morning, a little money. He'd got an insurance
check in, you know, and all of a sudden few vanishes.
Did you say an insurance check? You know? They north happened. Yes,
he had a roofer car and she had just received
(42:59):
an interest case. Uh oh, right there. Do we know
if that check has been cast by anyone? The check
has been cast? Uh oh, I smell a money motive.
Las cast a morning that you come and listen. Yeah, okay,
there you go. Now. I want to see their surveillance
video at the bank. I want to see it all
to track her movements. Who cash that check? Who signed
(43:20):
her name? With me? Commander of the Cajun Co Search
and Rescue along with Tony Wade. Commander Wade along with
judge and lawyer anchor Ashley Wilcot at Ashley Wilcott dot com.
Tip line six zero one nine seven four twenty nine hundred.
Where is Danielle Nipper
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