January 9, 2025 • 56 mins
Lo Bosworth joins Chelsea to talk about the gut-vagina connection, leaky gut, and building a successful business from the ground up. Then: A New Yorker’s lack of motivation has her feeling down and out. A hairdresser exceeds her goals and isn’t sure what’s next. And a girlfriend can get over the cheating… but can she forgive the lies?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Catherine, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Hi everybody. I just we're
in LA with the fires, and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You flew back just in time for this. In fact,
I flew back just in time for the fires.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I was with my nieces all week in Whistler, and
I flew back to host the Critics' Choice Awards, which
are being postponed now due to the fires. And we
landed and she was like, did you see the fire
we flew through? And I was like, one of my
nieces and I'm like what, And then I had I
didn't have Wi Fi in the flights. I wasn't I
was reading and I saw and then I saw my
phone and I was like, oh my god. And so
(00:36):
I'm at a hotel like everyone else in Los Angeles and
Critics Choice Towards. I'm here post phoned obviously. January twenty sixth.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Okay, I am probably going to turn around and go
back to Whistler since this is a disaster, okay, and
there's really nothing for me to do here, are you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We had to evacuate my street, but I don't know
what's going on on my street. The pictures in the
Palisades are so devastating.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You'll see one house that's burned, and then the one
next to it is fine, and then the one next
to that is burnt.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I mean, it's just like it's.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So random and devastating and all consuming and just really awful.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Wow, I mean yikes.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeah, So it's fires are just the worst thing to watch,
you know, like see and how they catch and how
they spread. Like the whole Palisades is just fucking destroyed.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just got a text from my boss that his
house has gone like literally just right now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Good God.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But he and his wife and baby got out yesterday.
So yeah, it's like you look for these silver linings.
It doesn't make it any less devastating, but there you
have it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
What's the silver lining? Oh that he's just.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They got out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, where's the one?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'd like to where can we just like find that?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, we have our guest today. We re recorded this
a while ago, so this episode is a lot about
vaginal wellness for all guess those of you who are
listening and who are not impacted by the fires and
who want to learn more about your Pikachu, here's an
episode for you. Please welcome Low Bosworth.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Hello, gorgeous gaggle of girls on a couch.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hello, Hello, Hello Bosworth. Hello, Hi, how are you? I'm
ready to talk about vaginal wellness. I'm ready to talk
about female wellness, vaginal wellness, anal wellness. I mean, if
we have anything to cover on that, we want to
just be well. We want to be well. And we
have you here today to talk about all of the
(02:41):
amazing things that you've accomplished with your company.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yes, thank you for having me. I don't know if
you remember, but I was on your show on E
a really long time ago once when I was on
the hills, and I was so scared to come on
your show because I was so intimidated.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
How was it, How was the experience? Was I nice? Scary?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It was scariest?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Book was it? Was I nice to you?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
You were very nice.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, I don't know why people are so intimidated by me.
I mean, I do know, but I didn't know for
so long what the problem was. I was like, God,
everyone would say that to me, like You're so scary,
You're so scary, and I'm like, I actually still don't
really quite get it. But that's for another time.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
I guess you're a strong, funny woman. And I think
people don't want to be don't want them, don't want
you to like point out their obvious areas of opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, nice, Yes, thank you. You know what, that was
probably the most eloquent way you could put it, So
thank you for saying it so I didn't have to
say it ineloquently. But good to know. And I accept this.
I accept this badge of whatever it is because I understand.
But I'm glad that I'm getting to see you again anyway.
And I was gonna say, had I interviewed you on
(03:52):
Chelsea lately? Because I had so many interviews in the
span of my career, with all of the talk shows
that I've done, that sometimes I meet people and I
can't tell, Like I had Christini. I had Christina Ricci
on the other week we had her on the podcast,
and I was looking at her sitting here, looking at
her face, going, I never forget a face, and I'm like,
I couldn't remember whether or not I had interviewed her,
(04:13):
and I was looking at her face and I'm like,
her face is a very unusual, you know, she has
a very unique face. And while I was looking at
I'm like, I know I haven't seen this face face
to face before, you know, And so I was like, oh,
and then she said no, I was never on your show.
I'm like, okay, that much I know. So anyway, low Bosworth,
you obviously people would have become familiar with you a
(04:34):
long time ago from a show you were on called
The Hills, which was like probably the first reality show really.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Or Laguna Beach before that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Oh yeah, it was early Laguna Beach.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I don't know if you remember that, but that was
twenty years ago. We started were it debuted in two
thousand and four, which is when I graduated high school
and then started college. So yeah, a full twenty years
ago Laguna came on the air, and then The Hills
followed that. So so it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Listen, you made a career out of being on a
reality show that was that wasn't a thing before. I mean,
it's a thing now, but you were able to parlay
that into something meaningful and great. So fucking good for you,
and congratulations.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I've been working on love Wellness for going on nine
years now, which is just blows my mind. I don't
think I've been able to commit that long to anything
in my life.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, that is a long time.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I'm really passionate about women's wellness. And I started the
company out of, you know, really my own need for
better products in the healthcare space. And I really, to
be honest with you, was determined not to be a
reality television personality forever as my byline, and now I
realize it probably just will be anyway, so whatever, I've
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kind of moved past that. But I think coming off
that show, I had so much trauma. And I'm sure
you talk to a lot of people who are on
reality that have such traumatic experience is on it, And
for a long time, in the early days of reality,
those stories were not really validated. They were pushed to
the side. It was like, well, you're famous, so like
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shut up about your feelings. But now I think there's
a better understanding just how like manipulative and terrible those
shows can be, you know, in people's psyche. And I
started my business really as sort of a second chance
in life to be honest with you, Like I had
to get away from LA I moved to New York,
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and I really I really started my life over again.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, And I had read too that you used sort
of like the last bit of your earnings from the
show to develop this product line and start the business.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Right, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I just want to say that our business is now
worth I mean, you guys made it. I think I
said one hundred million dollars this year right where it's
valuated at one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It's valuated or even that, but I we can't talk.
We can't talk about our revenue yet for twenty two
twenty four. But we're doing very well.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Okay, Well, I just wanted to say it's very successful.
So that's thing point we're trying to get across. Yeah,
so tell us, Okay, give us your backstory, like what happened,
what kind of like what was your issue that led
you to discover and launch this kind of brand.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
So I was in a really terribly sad, emotionally abusive
romantic relationship, and in that relationship, I was very depressed
and very anxious, and I also had a whole host
of women's health issues, urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and
it was like chronic. I was just always sick. And
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there was really a tipping point for me though, where
I was normal one day and then the next day,
I was just not I was like lay on the
floor depressed, like go home to my mommy for three
months depressed kind of a thing. And I was going
to the doctor over and over and over again and
trying to advocate for myself and just being told that,
you know, here's some prozac, you need to exercise more,
(08:01):
drink more water, whatever, the typical medical gas lighting that
I think a lot of women experience and have historically
experienced in this country for a very long time. It
wasn't until I was eighteen months into this health journey
of trying to understand why I was okay one day
and then so not okay kind of the overnight that
(08:21):
my GP finally agreed to just to a blood panel
and test my vitamin levels, like the most basic blood
test you can do, and it came back as like deficient, deficient, deficient, deficient.
It was overwhelming, but it was my very first data
point that there was something physiologically wrong with me, and
I wasn't making it up because I was being made
to feel that I was just making all of this
(08:43):
stuff up. And so with that first data point that
I was dealing with these vitamin deficiencies, I actually had
some information to go on, right, and then I kind
of took that information to better doctors that were approaching
healthcare from a more holistic point of view, which is
I think because coming more popular in our health care
(09:03):
system here, but you still have a lot of doctors
very focused on their primary area that they focus on.
And so I was looking for a gynecologist to say
that could help me connect the dots better between vaginal
health issues and gut health issues or the brain stuff
that I was experiencing, and finally got a healthcare team
in place that said, you know, I think that actually
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all of these things are connected. I think that you
have a gut health issue because you are the antibiotic generation.
I was born in nineteen eighty six. For every little thing,
we took an antibiotics, antibiotics all the time.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
We were raised on goldfish crackers from Costco, Like I
love a goldfish cracker, and we have messed up gut
microbiomes and as a result, we have vitamin deficiencies, we
have anxiety and depression because of leaky gut and the
connection between the gut and the brain and that blood
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brain barrier. And then from the gut to the vagina.
We have gout dys biosis that results in vaginal health issues.
Because the gut microbiome and the vaginal microbiome talk to
each other, it's called quorum sensing. The gut bacteria literally
tell your vagina bacteria, hey, like, we're in good health here,
you should be in good health down there, or the inverse,
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which is crazy. And so I finally started to understand
what was going on in my body. But this was
like twenty fifteen. There was still a lot of emerging
research on just the gut microbiome coming out, very little
on the vaginal microbiome. That took kind of like the
course of my business up until this point to get
better understanding and research on women's microbiomes, but started to
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develop products based off of the holistic recommendations of some
excellent doctors that were as simple as take a probiotic,
use an intimate cleanser without fragrance. And it was these
simple solutions that actually really made such a pivotal change
in my health and allowed me to get better. And
I decided I'm going to launch a business with a
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focus on these white space innovation types of products for
women that really can fundamentally change the game for how
we take care of our bodies at an accessible price
point in everyday types of stores. Right, And it was
twenty sixteen when I launched the company. It was right
after the presidential election in twenty sixteen. And yeah, here.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We are eight years later, many years later, in an
interestingly similar place. I am curious about when you talk
about leaky gut. So obviously you change the items that
you were taking, the probiotics and that sort of thing.
Did you do any sort of protocols to address leaky
gut or anything like that?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yeah, So, you know, when I was kind of initially
going through this discovery, my doctors thought, well, maybe you
have some food intolerances things like that, and I certainly do.
But I'm also a human and still sometimes eat through
those things anyway. And the only way to really find
out if you have a food allergy or an intolerance
(12:05):
is to do a diet where you eliminate that thing
from your diet for a significant period of time. And
I did that with gluten. And I was pretty surprised
when I reintroduced gluten how how negatively affected I was,
because the reality is, if you're eating something that you
have an intolerance to every single day over time, your
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reaction to it is not going to be very big.
It's going to be kind of consistent. You kind of
get to that like baseline kind of reaction. It's brain fog,
it's bloating, whatever. But when I eliminated gluten from my
diet and then reintroduced it, I like got vertigo, I
got like horribly sick. I was like, oh my gosh,
(12:49):
I really have a gluten problem. But yeah, elimination diets
are really kind of the gold standard for understanding if
you have some kind of foodish How.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Long do you think it takes, like when you eliminate
something like gluten, for you to actually feel the results
of that, the impact.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
That it has on your body, the positive benefits. Yeah,
I think within a week you probably start to feel
the positive benefits of it. If you have a food
intolerance to that thing. Do I think you get max
benefits in a month? Maybe probably longer than that. I
think if you've been eating something you have an intolerance
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to your entire life, it's going to take a while
for your body to heal from all of that inflammation.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Because I just feel like, is it everyone intolerant of
I mean not intolerant, but kind of allergic gluten. Well,
because we put of all the shit we put it
in and put in this. When I eat bread in
other countries, I.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Don't have the specifically in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I think you're right, whose body that's along with that?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, the thing is, what we use in the US
has about like seven or eight times the gluten of
the wheat that we evolved eating over ten thousand years,
So our body is, oh, really it does. It was
It's usually a GMO, and it was made to help
feed the world.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Like the scientists who created it was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's gonna help feed all these poor serving kids in
these countries, and we're eating it here in the US.
And that's why you go to like Italy or whatever.
Like I don't have any reaction to gluten in Italy
or France or any.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Of those places.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But here it's like I can eat Italian flower that
I'm making here, you know, pasta or bread or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The second I eat something that's like US bread flour,
it's it's over for me.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
In about twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Speak agriculture for you, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We're agrarians over here, Low, we're agrarians. I'm a government official, Yeah,
for the agriculture Agricultural Department. Can you imagine so one
said you have to get up and speak about that
for an hour, I'd be like, you better give me
a long hit stat so okay, and so then launching that,
because I've tried. I've been in you know where you've
tried to launch a business, and I just it is
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so fucking arduous to get something off the ground that
anyone who's been able to do it successfully. I'm just
in like awe.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Of you know, I'm pretty relentless.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, you sound like you really have your shit together.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I really love the subject matter like I love biology,
I love the human body. I am just fascinated by it.
And I think if you get into any business and
you really want to be in it for the long haul,
you have to really love what you're doing. And I
actually gave up the CEO role in my business last
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March or March of twenty twenty three so that I
could focus on innovation, regulatory marketing, the stuff that I'm
really really passionate about, because, to be honest with you,
like the CEO job is a tough job. I was
a CEO for the first seven years of my business
and was able to successfully grow and guide that business
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as a first time founder and CEO to a you know,
pretty significant size. I'm so proud of my accomplishment. But
to really scale the business to be like a major
player in Walmart and in Target, which are our retail partner,
you have to have done that before and with success.
It's really hard to walk into the room at Walmart,
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never having ever been there before and say like, trust
me and I can deliver products on time, and like
I know about all the margins and you know all
the coupons and stuff you guys want to do No. No,
Like being an owner or an operator of consumer brand
means that you really have to have done it before,
or you have to be willing to bring on a
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team that has done it before that can help you.
And so that's where I'm really at now in terms
of kind of my journey with the business. I don't
have to do one on ones anymore, thank god, but
I'm still really focused on all the product innovation and
really a lot of regulatory work. We sit in a
very interesting category in supplements and cosmetics that's not actually
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regulated by the FDA in terms of like ingredients or safety,
really just in terms of claims. And there's like a
big consumer misconception that the FDA is all over these
products in terms of like safety and stuff, but they're not,
and it's really on brands to do the self regulation.
So that's one of my kind of missions is to
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make really clean, you know, efficacious products for women in
a category of a lot of frankly just like bullshit,
because a lot of brands will just sell you a
gummy vitamin and say it works it's going to like
solve all your problems when they won't.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And how are you, as a consumer supposed to know
which brands are full of shit and which brands aren't.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's so hard, It's it's truly so hard.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's like I'm not reading any of these fucking labels,
you know what I mean, And I wouldn't even know
what to be looking for.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I just do so much challenge. Yeah, you know, a
lot of brands now tout like, oh, like clinically studied ingredients,
but like they don't actually have necessarily like the clinically
proven amount of that ingredient.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Air product or the formulation that works best, you know,
even like co Q ten is something I started taking recently,
and there's like five different kinds and like one is
very accessible by your body, and like the rest are not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You know, you have to take way more. And it's
sort of like on a basis.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I think, you know, I want to believe that most
brands are trying to do right by the consumer. What
I will say is that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, don't assume that because they're not. I mean, I
know that's not true.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I know, but in this category, like, I want to
believe that right. I want to believe that if a
woman starts a business for women's health in her heart,
she has good intentions in mind for her customer base. Yes,
I don't think that that is always the case, and
I can think of a few examples where that's specifically
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not the case. But I have to to just to
be able to like get up and operate every single
day and live in the earth that we're living in
and have some hope about the innate goodness in people, you.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, it's called love Wellness dot Com for people who
want to go and order stuff from her company because
I like the idea of having your own health issues
and then finding a solution, which is the impetus for
starting a company. I think that's a very natural, kind
of like linear thing to do. And I think you're
right about female founders. I mean, I think for the
most part, you know women's it's like it's we we're
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not handed anything. You have to actually, no, actively go
and work probably twice as hard as a man to
start a company to get to.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Cardi B said ten times is hard the other day,
and I thought, yes, Cardi B.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
She's always been better at math than I have. So
we'll take her. I'll take whatever she says. Yeah. So
what's happening with your personal life? You're not married, right?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I have a fabulous partner, he's great, we live together rightly. Love.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I love that you don't have kids.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I can tell by the look on someone's face if
they have children.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I look so rested to you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Don is glowing.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I'm kidding. No, we would love to have children, but
not not yet. What I want to go back to,
well maybe soon but maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay, okay, Well that's obviously a pregnancy announcement. It's not
it's absolutely not leaky gut exactly. I hear a lot
about leaky gut, but like what physicality does that take
on in your body? Like what happens?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I might I'll probably let Low take this, but it's
a lot of inflammation and other stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, is something actually leaking from your gut?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Yeah, So like think of it like when you eat
food and imagine if in that food there was like
some like weird bacteria or something like let's say you
eat fish. Okay, I'm giving you like a very like
basic example. Let's say that there's some like weird bacteria
in the fish that you eat, and because you keep
eating foods that are inflammatory to your body, your gut
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wall lining may have like tiny little gaps in it, right,
and that like weird bad thing may be able to
get through that gap, get into your blood stream and
then go up to your brain and if it's small enough,
penetrate the blood brain barrier and theoretically affect your brain health.
And so that's like at the macro level the concept
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of leaky gut.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You should be on Gray's anatomy. Low, she's very well, seriously,
I mean that's actually great. I've been wondering what leaky
gut is for a long time. By the way it sounds,
I assumed it had something to do with your asshole,
like that your asshole, that disaster. You know, it turns
into a ship store.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I mean, it could cause you to have like a
lot of diarrhea and stomach upset if you have leaky gut,
to be honest with you, because your probably your stomach
is probably so inflame from all the weird stuff that
your body like doesn't agree with or you're putting in
all so.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But it's just there's a lot of like vaginal health
talk that we're having these days. When you know, you'd
never think about how healthy your vagina is unless there's
something wrong, unless there's an issue. It's not like you're like, oh.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Well, I always like to tell the team. It's like
when you don't notice anything, like, that's the ideal state, right, right,
It's like when you don't know what's what's anything amiss,
that's like where you want to be. That's the healthy state.
What I think is cool about the vagina is that
it's actually an immunity organ and very few people know
that or think about it that way, but it is right,
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there's a lot of talk about vaginal pH levels. That's
like very like you know that terminology is used a lot. Now.
Vaginal pH is acidic because it protects you from overgrowth
of bad bacteria or bad yeast or pathogens things like that,
because like, guess what the vagina like is the entrance
up into your uterus, right, Like it's your fertility kingdom
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up in there, and so your vagina is protecting you
from bad things that come and invade. But the vagina
is very smart. The vagina will attack things that are
not self, right, like you know, a bad bacteria or
you know a bad pathogen that like doesn't come from you,
But it will not attack sperm. It knows that sperm
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is not self, but it knows that it's not bad.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Is it interesting?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
It's like an organ, but it's a brain. Honestly, she's smart.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
She is. She sounds as smart as an elephant. I mean,
how do you know who's welcome and who's not.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
She's smart.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Although, then if the vagina were that smart, it should
know that when they when someone's in danger and the
sperm is coming to not let that sperm in. If
it were really smart, it would fend off like rapists
and you know, all the bad guys sperm.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I wouldn't that be just yeah, that would do a
dreamy a dreamy scenario.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think there's some Republican senators who do think that
that happens, which is a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But yeah, well, Vagina's only going to get smarter as
we move on. Guys, it's evolution. People are getting smarter,
not dumber, although some people are really stupid. Yeah, okay,
we're going to take a break on that note and
get rid of all the stupid people and we'll be
right back and we're back with less stupid people and
(23:55):
with low bosworth. Okay, we are. We're going to take
some questions and some callers lower. Are you ready for
some action?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I'm ready, I'm ready. Yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, our first question, this one's just an email, so
she won't be joining us. But this question comes from Annie.
Annie says, Dear Chelsea. I've been a fan and listener
from the start. I'm a psychologist who primarily administers intellectual
and personality assessments.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
A few years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I was unfortunately in an abusive relationship and experienced a
traumatic brain injury, also known as a TBI. As a
result of that injury, I have a diagnosis of aphasia.
In my case, it's a wall between my formerly large
vocabulary similar to yours, and my ability to access it
as necessary during quick communication. My question is, can you
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give me some of the tips you discuss on the
podcast that you use to continually increase your vocabulary? Also
any advice on how to manage the anxiety that comes
at work and increases the severity of my ability to
access my vocabulary forever one of your biggest fans and supporters, Annie.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
First of all, I want to say one thing. Accessing
your vocabulary and having a phasia, you have to understand
that it's okay not to have to use sophisticated words
all the time. It's okay to communicate like your main
goal is to relay something a thought or a message
or whatever. So just do that in the simplest way
without putting pressure on yourself to remember the bigger words
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to do that that's not necessary right now in the meantime,
what you can do, and what I always do is
I always have vocab words. I have word of the
day dictionary, you know things I get a million words
of the day, I always print them out, have them laminated.
I collect them, like if I there's twenty new words,
I put them out and put them in a laminated
sheet and put them in my closet or put them
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on your fridge, so that you're seeing them every single day.
And I guarantee you you will start to imprint new
words into your vocabulary, and then you're gonna have a
whole new slew of words. And some of those words
that you already know will be repeated, but you're cementing
them in your brain in a visual way, and that
lends itself to memorizing things more easily, even if you
are dealing with aphasia.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah and lo, I know you had a traumatic brain
injury a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Is this question calus some tailor for me?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yes, well, we do do that.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I know you're like an English teacher, like posting up
your words.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I love it. It's all I've got.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I had a traumatic brain injury in twenty nineteen. I
was at a restaurant in Manhattan and one of the
swinging kitchen doors came off its hinge and fell onto
my head. And it was pretty brutal, and I dealt
with some loss of vocabulary for a period of time.
I think that I have mostly recovered, but sometimes it
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still happens to me where I can't come up with
the word and it's it's really really tough. What I
would say is that brain exercises really helped me. Whether
it's brain games, it could be as simple as dedicating
yourself to twenty minutes of reading a book every single night,
just to kind of activate your brain again to be
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reading and understanding just language in general. But I would
give yourself just as much physical rest as you can
in the time that you can right really focus on sleep.
We know that as women, we need more sleep than men.
And one of the things that my doctors recommended for
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me while I was going through my TBI recovery was
to really avoid inflam foods because inflammatory foods can cause
even more brain fog, and I think it can probably
make the aphasia that she's talking about even worse. I
notice for myself when I eat a bunch of gluten,
I really struggle with my vocabulary, really struggle to find
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the words that I'm looking for. And when I eat
a cleaner diet that doesn't seem to be as big
of a deal for me. I'm also going to go
down the peptides Injectavle's rabbit hole right now into something
called BP seven one five seven. I take that in
PC BPC BPC, thank you BP you see one five
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seven right? Yeah, And this has actually started to be
recommended for people who have brain issues. It is a
gastric acid. I think that supposedly can help with like
brain lesions and things like that, So I would look
into that. It's supposed to be like a crazy like
healer type of peptide. It is on I think the
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list of Worldwide Band substances for doping. So I hope
that you're not.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
A can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
it can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
the general.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Population can take it and it may.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Help, and yeah, it may help. And and also that also
helps with like physical recovery and injuries, Like I injected
into my knee area all the time, especially when I'm skiing,
because it helps like kind of heal whatever your issues are.
The other thing I wanted to say what Logs touched
upon though, is that your diet at the correlation between
you put in your body and your mental alacrity is
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scientifically proven. So like I know, if I'm about to
do some event, like if I'm gonna do this podcast,
I don't eat before I do that because my mind
isn't as sharp. Your mind will always be sharp. When
you're a slightly hungry, it'll be sharper. You know, when
you're full and you feel tired and you're not digesting things, well,
that's when you start to get lazy and you feel
less kind of vibrant. So just be mindful of that.
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And you know, when you eat, don't overeat because that
puts you into like then you spike your blood sugar
and then you go high and then you crash. So
you have to be really mindful of your diet, especially
when you're talking about these kinds of issues. It's like
we're doctor Phil and doctor Great.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Great.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I feel like where you have like a doctor, this
is like two doctors. We're like two really medically advanced laymen.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, exactly, yes, BBC one.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, So our next question comes from Cynthia, and she
will be joining us on the phone here in a moment.
She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty nine year old
woman living in Brooklyn, New York. With my beautiful girlfriend
of four years now, my fiance. I have a great job.
I love my fiancee to pieces. I'm not the most
social person and I don't have many friends, if any
at all. I consider myself an intelligent person, and I've
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been in therapy for many years on and off to
help me cope with childhood trauma. I think the root
of my depression, or maybe the consequence of it, is
I have zero motivation. I don't have the willpower to exercise.
I have a pretty shitty diet, and I basically just
work to come home to do the same cycle the
next day. I know that diet and exercise is a
huge factor for bettering myself mentally and physically, but I
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just can't seem to find the energy or motivation to
get up and do all the things I probably should
to make myself feel better. I used to be on
antidepressants and anti anxiety meds, but stopped them on my
doctor's advice, because it withered my sex drive down to nothing.
I've been off my meds for a couple months now,
and I've been feeling the ups and downs of that.
I'm consumed with shame and guilt at the fact that
I know exactly what I have to do, but the
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fuck it in my brain is much stronger than any
of those thoughts. I've talked to a doctor and they
tell me I just need to push myself. But how
I've had times in my life where I did have motivation,
like in my twenties, and I'd get up an exercise
and eat a healthier diet. But I feel like that
part of me is just not alive anymore. My fiance
also struggles with the same lack of motivation I do,
so it seems like we enable each other. How can
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I spark some much needed motivation. I'm tired of being tired. Cynthia.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Hi Cynthia, Hlsea Carin Hi.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
This is our special guest, Low Bosworth. She's here today.
Hi trys Cynthia.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Who's going to go first?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Because I have an ada, I think you should go first.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Okay, Cynthia. Have you ever tried meditation because it because
it requires no physical exercise and no dieting. I haven't no,
So meditation is really cool because it creates new neural
pathways in the brain. And creating new neural pathways in
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the brain allows you to create new habits, new hobbies,
new interests, because I think what you may be experiencing
is something that a lot of us are experiencing right now,
which is kind of this like freeze mode in reaction
to potentially the stress of the times we're living in
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or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Right, I think that there's not a ton of hope
right now, and so I think one of the ways
to think about from an actual like neurochemical neuroplasticity point
of view is how can I create neural pathways to
change how my brain is behaving, and then I can
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change how my body is behaving, right, my behavior can follow.
And so I've been doing something called transcendental meditation off
and on for almost ten years, and it's a tool
in my toolbox that I use when I'm feeling really
anxious or really depressed. And after like five or six
days between transcendental meditation, I wake up and I actually
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feel different and I'm actually inspired to like go do
things differently in my day. So that would be my
immediate go to suggestion. I think outside of just acknowledging
that we live in some really weird times, and I
think what you are describing is to a certain degree
the human condition and we all feel this way from
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time to time.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, okay, that is good advice, and I always endorse
a spouse meditation. But you and your partner are in
a like a funk together, so out of love, Like,
if you can't do it for yourself, then you need
to be doing it for her. You guys have to
get on a different fucking program and you have to
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write down what your goals are. I want you guys
to sit down together tonight and write down what you
want to be accomplishing in a month. Exercise whyle and
diet wise and meditation wise. So now you have like
three tasks that you have to be mindful of every
single day. And you need to be accountable to each other.
And when she's weak, you need to be a little
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bit stronger. And when she and when you're weak, she's
gonna have to pick it up too, because you guys
are kind of commiserating together. And until you break this pattern,
you're not gonna You're gonna be stuck in this pattern.
And you want to be healthy and strong. Yes, when
you don't do anything for long periods of time, you
become less inclined to want to do those things. But
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the minute you say, today, we're gonna go for a
fifteen minute walk together. Fifteen minutes you can do that together. Yeah,
and you're gonna feel the benefit of that when you
get back. You might be annoyed and like h but
you're just gonna do that every day for one week
from now. Fifteen minutes of exercise together. The two of
you have to do together if you can, can you yeah,
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I think we can. Yeah, that's nothing, okay. And then
you can download a meditation app, any of them. You can.
I do Chopra, which is called Presence. They just change
name of it, but start with an app because those
are easier. There's ten percent happier. There's head space space.
Headspace is really user beginner friendly. Download Headspace. Do that.
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Headspace is a good And you guys can meditate together.
That's an even more powerful vibration to create. It's two
people meditating together, two people that love each other, like
you're doing this together. This is a team. Now you're
on a team with your partner, and you're gonna put
fifteen minutes a day towards exercise. You're gonna do five
minutes a day to begin with of meditation, and you're
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gonna be mindful of what you eat. Doesn't mean you
have to change your entire life, but just start to
make little healthier choices.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
One thing that's really helped me is the addition of
healthy choices, especially when you're just starting out. It's like
adding in a little fresh fruit, adding in a fresh salad,
like something that's really manageable and easy, and like, you
start to crave that stuff even more.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yes, absolutely, instead of French fries, get a salad instead
of whatever, just those things. It doesn't sound appealing, I understand,
But once you start to practice these things, you're going
to create all of those neural pathways that she's talking about,
and you're going to start to crave the goodness and
the like. You're going to start to crave to move
your body for fifteen minutes. You just have to commit
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on the lowest level. And then also, I think what
you should do is write down at the end of
the day, how you felt about all of the stuff
you did. How did I feel about the exercise, How
did you feel after you exercise good, bad, exhausted, whatever?
How did you feel after you made a healthier choice
with your food?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Good?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bad, great, didn't matter to have no impact. Write that
down for a week, and I promise you will start
to see benefits and you're going to start to feel differently.
Your lack of motivation is feeding itself, right, so now
you have to feed it something else.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I have a question for you too. Is there a
room for a dog in your life?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know right now?
Speaker 9 (36:55):
No, we have a small apartment like super you know,
I'm saying, are going to be cool with it, but
we are planning to move eventually and definitely want to
get a dog.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I think that is such a helpful tool in getting
you to the movement more because you're just like, I'm
out with my dog, I'm listening to a podcast. Maybe
I'm having a good time. I want to go on
extra block.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Like it just helps so much getting you out and about.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, and being outdoors at all, whether it's nice, ugly, cold, gray,
is good for your system. That's good for your immuniony system,
It's good for your energy. Like you have to feed
yourself of medicine because you're depriving yourself of all of
the things that life has to offer. Everything's here for you,
and you're choosing to not you know what I mean,
you got to like step it up a little bit.
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And on the medication front, also, is your sex drive
better without the medication? It hasn't.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
I mean it's only been about three months and I'm
just like waiting around to see what's gonna happen, and
I'm still kind of at a lull.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Okay, So then maybe you do need the medication. Like
with the medication making you not sex too.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
Yeah, I think that it contributed to me not having
any kind of sex drive, and my doctors agreed that
that does usually happen on anti anxiety meds or antidepressants
of certain kinds.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Okay, So I think what you should do is do
this this prescription that I've given you for the next
four weeks. Okay, do that and see if your mood changes,
and if that at that point it doesn't, I want
you to call us back, Okay, But you guys have
to do this every day together. You have to commit
to it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And I love what you say about like starting small.
I think, like it's not new advice, but it is
the best advice, like, because you do get the ball
rolling when you start.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, you just got to pick up, like you made
this call. You're calling in because you want to change
your life. Yeah, and now you have the opportunity to
change your life. I just told you the simplest things
to do. They're totally accomplishable, regardless of what happens in
our atmosphere, what's happening right now, that has no impact,
you know what I mean. Just I want you to
move forward caring about your body and caring about your
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partner's body.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So I wanted to ask, too, are there any supplements
that you would recommend as far as sexual wellness and
increasing libido or anything like that, especially for women.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I think, honestly, I think a great multi vitamin is
just a good place to start. We make a great
one at Love Wellness. Not to toot our own.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Hornbag, go go to lovewllness dot com and pick up
a multi vitamin. That's always good. Everyone needs fucking vitamins.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
There are some libido supplements out there that you can try,
but I think just in general, there are some like
classic herbs that support women's health that are actually found
in our multi vitamin as kind of herbal add ons
like Ashwagonda, Chaste tree, Saint John's wort et cetera. But
a good multi vitamin can really help with hormone balance,
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It can help with some of the neurological stuff that
you're talking about. Ninety percent of Americans have vitamin deficiencies,
most of them are vitamin B and vitamin D, and
that can actually lead to a lot of depression and anxiety.
I dealt with that myself, So I think, you know,
in addition, probably just a routine trip to the doctor,
you know, could be in order just to take like
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a deeper look under the hood. I'm not sure of
your age, and I won't ask, but you know, there's
even the possibility that you could be experiencing some paramenopause symptoms,
which you know, like maybe a factor here. I don't know,
but perimenopause can start in women at age thirty five,
which is something that is like really not talked about.
And so yeah, I think the team here has some
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really good suggestions. And I think I heard you live
in Brooklyn. You probably are doing good things for yourself
already and you're just like not noticing it. Like you're
a New Yorker. I live in New York too, Like
we walk a lot everywhere every single day. You know
what I mean. So that first week that you're taking
a journal, like write down all the things that you're doing,
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Like yes, like go above and beyond and take that
fifteen minute walk. But I suspect that, like you're already
doing some things every year day that you can feel
proud about, and you are stuck in kind of this
like negative self talk environment. And yeah, I think remembering
that you want to do it for your partner and
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that you love them and that you need to be
accountable to them and for them is a really helpful
part of it. Also, you know, it's like whenever my
boyfriend is having a bad day, like that's when I'm
really able to like jump into superhero mode. You know.
It's like, oh you need me, I can do that
for you.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
And so playing that role for each other I think
can be really powerful.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Gotcha, And it's going to put a pep in your step.
I promise you. All of these little micro things are
going to add up together and the sum of its
parts are going to add to your life.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Okay, I hope we haven't overwhelmed you. You can do it.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
No, No, it's not overwhelming at all.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Check in with us again.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, check in with us and maybe we'll have you
up on a couples counseling episode with your partner.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, that's fun. We could do a follow up with
your part and see how you guys are after a month.
That would be amazing. Yeah, and then we can take
it even further.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
All right, thank you, Cynthia. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Okay, so much, thank you, Bye bye bye.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
All right. Our next question comes from Aspen.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Aspin, Colorado. Oh, she lives in North Carolina, but her
name is Aspin.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Maybe that's where she was conceived.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Who knows, Dear Chelsea, I turned thirty this year, and
I've been at my job for ten years. I'm a
hairdresser at an amazing salon who supports me in every
way possible. The issue I'm facing is I had five
and ten year goals and I've mostly hit all of them,
even having a whoopsidoodle baby along the way. I can't
help but feel that now I'm where I want to be.
I'm really restless. I'm very driven, I'm a dream chaser,
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but I feel like I've fallen into a very uncharacteristic slump.
I absolutely adore my job and I do dream of
bigger and better things, but I have such a hard
time figuring out what the hell that means. Basically, what
I'm asking is, have you ever been in a career
plettau and how did you get the clarity for your
next big dream? Thank you, aspen As.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
You look incredible.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Thank you. I thought today it was a great day
to wear a pink power suit.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You're correct, excellent, excellent, this is our your outfit, you
look great. This is our special guest, Low Bosworth.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
Hi, Hi, I've been a fan for a long time too.
This is wild.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Oh thanks, that's so nice. It's nice to meet you.
Speaker 8 (43:25):
Nice to meet you, too, Low.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Did you want to go first since you're such a
power top. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Honestly, I think sometimes it's okay to be in a slump.
Here's how I think about it. I think that you
could go too hard on being so good at stuff
and too hard at like doing nothing and being lazy.
I think that when I talk about balance, that's what
I mean. Like I working on fertility stuff for myself
right now. I'm taking so many fucking supplements every night
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and doing all this stuff. And I decided the other night,
like I had it I needed to go out and
have a drink, and I realized we're talking about your
career and not like your wellness personal life. But I'm
just trying to create that parallel, right, is that, like,
you can take a break from being a boss bitch
if you want to. There is a lot of good
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in taking a break, in letting it coast, in letting
it ride for a little while. You can accomplish a
lot of personal goals.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Right.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
You can get a lot of sleep, you can drink
that cocktail that you're drinking, right. And so I didn't
expect this to be the advice that tumbled out of
my mouth, especially on this podcast or we're like girls, yeah, entrepreneurs, Yeah,
but like my god, it's exhausting to always try to
be the best and to always try to do the
right thing. And so maybe you take this moment as
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a time for rest and self reflection and when your
body and mind are ready, it will come to you.
Perhaps your body and mind are not ready.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
He I mean that definitely all resonates for where it's
exhausting always feeling like you have to be the best.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
I mean, I feel like it's helpful in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 7 (45:06):
And it's helped me get as far as I have,
like having such a high standard, but at the same time,
like it's hard to keep that going, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
It's hard to keep that going. And also when you're
really good at multiple things in life, there is such
truth to what Loja said, like sometimes you have to
chill out to let the mood strike you, like when
you're in search of the next job, the next project,
like that aggressively, sometimes you're kind of almost creating a
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blockade towards that goal, you know, because you're putting so
much pressure on yourself. Like there is something to be
said for enjoying the moment that you're in because you're
not struggling right now, and you might be in a
little bit of a plateau, as you say, but out
of plateaus, things rise up, you know what I mean.
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So enjoy this time because you may not have a
quiet time like this moving forward. And I wouldn't put
so much pressure on I have to come up with
this next thing. What is the next thing? I'm too
productive and too smart to not be this productive. That
is kind of like, you know, almost a negative self
talk cycle as well. So I would say, enjoy the
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time that you're having, You're in control of your situation.
Things seem to be under control, right.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
I'm definitely maybe two in control of my situation sometimes honestly, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Well tell us about that, I mean expand Yeah.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
So I've always had like a very clear idea since
i was really young of exactly what I wanted to do.
I went to school for it, I did it. I
became really successful at a really young age. I mean
I'm only thirty now and I've been at my salon
for ten years, which is kind of wild, and I've
gotten to the top of the salon and I think, yeah,
like I said, I had all those goals. I'm and
I was so meticulous about every day, this number I
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hit every month, this number I hit every year, at
this number I hit every like just kind of.
Speaker 8 (46:56):
Obsessed with it. And I've been so obsessed with it.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
I think being control of my own career and my
own pathway that now that I've kind of gotten to that,
you know, goal that I had. The not having control
of it anymore is I think a little bit terrifying
because I'm like, wait, now I don't have control of
the future, because I don't know what the fuck the
future is.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And do you have anything that you're thinking about doing next.
Speaker 7 (47:18):
I mean, that's what I was saying too, is I
absolutely love what I do, but I can't help to
like I do still feel like I had this like pit,
like this feeling in my stomach of like I'm not
fulfilling my full potential, Like I feel like I might
have more to offer the world than I'm currently offering it.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That makes sense, and if that's true, that will come
to you in a natural way. I think you sound
very controlling, you know what I mean, Like you're you're
a control freak of your own life. I mean, who
most people are. So that's fine, But I think this
is actually a good lesson that you're calling in to
talk to us, and we're telling you both to just
we're both telling you just to chill out, chill out
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and like allow ideas to come your way. And I'm
sure whatever it is will naturally organically appear in your
life once you stop looking so hard for it. It's
like trying to find a boyfriend.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
Right, Yeah, exactly. I mean that's honestly like how I
met my husband ten years ago.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
Too. I finally was like fuck it, I'm done dating.
I'm just gonna work.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
And then literally three days later he comes to the
salon and is like, hey, you marry me?
Speaker 8 (48:15):
And I was like, okay, okay, great.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
It sounds like you have to learn how to sit
in your discomfort a little bit. It feels like you're
really uncomfortable and you're really trying to get out of
that uncomfortable. I don't know what to say in control.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
So if you're trying something uncomfortable, yeah, I mean, what'd
you say been?
Speaker 8 (48:35):
They're done that?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, Well, just you got just something to shake shit up.
I just love that she's having a cocktail. Okay, Well
this is good. What's your takeaway from this call?
Speaker 8 (48:44):
It was definitely really helpful for sure. I mean I
think I knew that deep down.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
But it's almost like when you're a little bit of
a control freak and like a go getter, you almost
need permission from somebody else to do nothing for a
minute because it's like.
Speaker 8 (48:56):
You're you never give that permission to yourself.
Speaker 7 (48:58):
So I feel like it's really nice to get permission
from women that I really respect to I consider to
be go getters as well.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, also like be really proud of yourself for getting
this far in your life. You're thirty years old. You've
accomplished all of the goals that you had set out,
which leads me to believe that you are going to
accomplish the next set of goals you set out, and
there is no timeframe on those things. So be very
proud of your competency and your ability to like follow
through on all of these dreams that you've had. Like
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that is a huge accomplishment, So like we yeah, enjoy that.
Go with that for a minute.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Luxuriate in your accomplishments, like you've earned the right to
sit back and take a break, and.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
You're only fucking thirty, Like this is Awesomey, that's so cool.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
You know, I feel like I grew up really fast
as I had a kid at twenty one, so it
makes you grow up really quickly. But so sometimes I
think I feel that I'm older than I am. But yeah,
you're right, I am only thirty and I do have
lots of time.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
To figure out Yeah, yeah, yeah you will.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Well, thank you so much for calling in Aspen by
as Ben.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Yes, thank you, Chelsea for all the u I've been
a huge fan since I was you know, like fifteen
years old watching Chelsea Lately on the couch with my
mom at night. So this has been an honor to
talk to you. So thank you for being a huge
role model to me.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Oh thanks, thank you, thank you. Bye?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
What is sweetie? So funny?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Because Cynthia was upset at herself because she didn't have
the motivation, and you know, asked me's upset at herself?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
We should combine those two getting together too much motivation?
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Yeah, she's like.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What's next? I'm like, I take a nap exactly, and
nap is so delicious, coun.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
So let's take a quick break and we'll be back
with one kind of wild question that we have.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Okay, we're going to take a break, and we're back
with low Bosworth.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
We are back, and our final question comes from Savannah.
She is twenty nine. She writes to your Chelsea, my
boyfriend tried to fuck a stripper two weeks ago, and
I'm wondering what I should do. I'm leaning toward the
idea for giving him, going to couple's therapy and working
through it. But part of me can't help but think,
what if this is who he is? Are these his
true colors? How Can I trust a liar? Do people
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genuinely make mistakes? Or am I just a sucker? For context,
I'm a twenty nine year old girl and my boyfriend
is thirty one. He's the absolute love of my life,
the most thoughtful, caring, passionate person I've ever known. He
truly has a heart of gold. This sounds ridiculous, I know,
but it is true. When we first got together, all
of his friends warned me not to break his heart.
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Who knew I would be the one getting screwed? Well,
me and at least one other person. We were close
friends for two years before he became a couple, and
have been dating for a year and a half and
we lived together. Here's my problem. It's not so much
the stripper, it is the lying, the deception. I feel tricked, betrayed, bamboozled,
you get it. He went out of town, a three
hour drive away on a work trip and was going
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to be gone for one, maybe two nights. The second
day is wrapping up and he decides to stay another night.
I fell asleep on the couch and woke up at
two am grabbed my phone. To my surprise, he never
called or texted, so I facetimed him and he was
in an uber acting pretty weird, but it was late
and I didn't want to get into it, so I
went to bed. When he got home the next day,
the vibes were kind of weird, so I asked him
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what he did that night and told him it was shitty.
He was too tired to drive, but went out and partied.
The area he was in has a lot of strip clubs,
so I asked if he went to a strip club,
and he said no. I could tell he was lying,
so I reassured him that I wouldn't be mad. I
just would like to know the truth. He insists he
did not go to a strip club. Doubles down, triples down.
So I tell myself I trust him. I have no
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reason not to. And a week goes by. Then Chelsea,
I have a horrible gut feeling.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
All week.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I can't sleep, and I keep thinking he cheated on me,
which is not normal. So I did the thing you're
not supposed to do, and I looked at his phone.
I went to his deleted text messages. Oh so he
was smart enough to delete it, and found that he
texted a stripper that night that he was on his
work trip. Hey, this is Tony, come to Indigo Hotel.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I leave at ten am. I feel so heart broken,
confused and deceived. Am I a fool for not walking away?
Or am I throwing something amazing away for a stupid mistake?
Savannah lo, would you like to begin?
Speaker 6 (53:11):
No?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
See, this is the thing she says, like, my boyfriend
tried to fuck a stripper. But like, who's saying she
didn't show up? Nobody's saying she didn't show up. He
might have done it.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Your boyfriend lied to you repeatedly. He chose to stay
in a hotel, motel around a bunch of strip clubs
instead of coming home to you. That is all the
information that you need to know. That's it. No other
information is relevant. That's what he chose to do. He's
telling you exactly who he is, and that's it. He's
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a liar. Yeah bye.
Speaker 6 (53:44):
I mean like he spent a lot of time to
like plan, prepare, egxecute. This was not off the cuff, right,
which means that if you he's done this before, Yeah, Like,
it does take a lot of bravery. I think to
like go out and to actively cheat on somebody who
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you love in a lot of ways, Like it takes
a lot of balls to actually execute against that plan.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
It's the lying after the facts. Yeah, if there was
nothing to hide, he would have just told you, Yeah,
I did, I tried to fuck a stripper. I've ever
done that before. It's the lying. So it's over. Like,
that's not somebody you can trust, and that's not somebody
who has your best interest. So that's the that's the news,
and I hope that you act on that and instead
of finding out about this happening in another six months, right, you.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Know, there is a question of like is your tolerance
level to let him go do these things and like
have that kind of relationship and if it is, fine,
but like you can't really get past the lying, Like
there's no tolerance level for lying.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I really the lying is I can't deal with any
adults who lie. It's it's adults.
Speaker 6 (54:53):
It's too stupid lie are never going to learn how
to unlie, you know what I mean. Like, if you're
an adult that lies, that's just pattern of behavior. It's
who you are, and like you're not going to change.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
So yeah, so Savannah, I think.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
It's over anyways, Savannah, sorry about that, but there's plenty
of guys out there that won't lie to you.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Okay, Well, Low Buzzworth, how fun was today?
Speaker 6 (55:16):
Thanks for having me? This was a delight.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
I want everyone to know where you can get her products.
They are available nationwide at Target, Alta Beauty, Walmart, Amazon,
and then at Lovewellness dot com. Yes, and you also
wrote a book called Love Yourself Well so that goes
into all the science behind all of the gut brain,
vagina axis everything we're talking about. And you have a podcast,
(55:38):
right and you have a podcast called Gut Feelings.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
Yes, our love on this podcast is coming back next year.
We're on a little hiatus right now because we got
a lot of work to do, but the podcast will
be coming back.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Okay, great, Okay, Low, thank you so much. Congrats on
every you Bye.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
If you'd like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email
at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail and be sure to
include your phone number. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered
by Brad Dickert executive producer Catherine law And be sure
to check out our merch at Chelseahandler dot com.
Hi, Catherine, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Hi everybody. I just we're
in LA with the fires, and.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You flew back just in time for this. In fact,
I flew back just in time for the fires.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I was with my nieces all week in Whistler, and
I flew back to host the Critics' Choice Awards, which
are being postponed now due to the fires. And we
landed and she was like, did you see the fire
we flew through? And I was like, one of my
nieces and I'm like what, And then I had I
didn't have Wi Fi in the flights. I wasn't I
was reading and I saw and then I saw my
phone and I was like, oh my god. And so
(00:36):
I'm at a hotel like everyone else in Los Angeles and
Critics Choice Towards. I'm here post phoned obviously. January twenty sixth.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Okay, I am probably going to turn around and go
back to Whistler since this is a disaster, okay, and
there's really nothing for me to do here, are you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
We had to evacuate my street, but I don't know
what's going on on my street. The pictures in the
Palisades are so devastating.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You'll see one house that's burned, and then the one
next to it is fine, and then the one next
to that is burnt.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I mean, it's just like it's.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So random and devastating and all consuming and just really awful.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Wow, I mean yikes.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeah, So it's fires are just the worst thing to watch,
you know, like see and how they catch and how
they spread. Like the whole Palisades is just fucking destroyed.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I just got a text from my boss that his
house has gone like literally just right now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Good God.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But he and his wife and baby got out yesterday.
So yeah, it's like you look for these silver linings.
It doesn't make it any less devastating, but there you
have it.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
What's the silver lining? Oh that he's just.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They got out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, where's the one?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'd like to where can we just like find that?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Please?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, we have our guest today. We re recorded this
a while ago, so this episode is a lot about
vaginal wellness for all guess those of you who are
listening and who are not impacted by the fires and
who want to learn more about your Pikachu, here's an
episode for you. Please welcome Low Bosworth.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Hello, gorgeous gaggle of girls on a couch.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hello, Hello, Hello Bosworth. Hello, Hi, how are you? I'm
ready to talk about vaginal wellness. I'm ready to talk
about female wellness, vaginal wellness, anal wellness. I mean, if
we have anything to cover on that, we want to
just be well. We want to be well. And we
have you here today to talk about all of the
(02:41):
amazing things that you've accomplished with your company.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yes, thank you for having me. I don't know if
you remember, but I was on your show on E
a really long time ago once when I was on
the hills, and I was so scared to come on
your show because I was so intimidated.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
How was it, How was the experience? Was I nice? Scary?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It was scariest?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Book was it? Was I nice to you?
Speaker 6 (03:05):
You were very nice.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, I don't know why people are so intimidated by me.
I mean, I do know, but I didn't know for
so long what the problem was. I was like, God,
everyone would say that to me, like You're so scary,
You're so scary, and I'm like, I actually still don't
really quite get it. But that's for another time.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
I guess you're a strong, funny woman. And I think
people don't want to be don't want them, don't want
you to like point out their obvious areas of opportunity.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yes, nice, Yes, thank you. You know what, that was
probably the most eloquent way you could put it, So
thank you for saying it so I didn't have to
say it ineloquently. But good to know. And I accept this.
I accept this badge of whatever it is because I understand.
But I'm glad that I'm getting to see you again anyway.
And I was gonna say, had I interviewed you on
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Chelsea lately? Because I had so many interviews in the
span of my career, with all of the talk shows
that I've done, that sometimes I meet people and I
can't tell, Like I had Christini. I had Christina Ricci
on the other week we had her on the podcast,
and I was looking at her sitting here, looking at
her face, going, I never forget a face, and I'm like,
I couldn't remember whether or not I had interviewed her,
(04:13):
and I was looking at her face and I'm like,
her face is a very unusual, you know, she has
a very unique face. And while I was looking at
I'm like, I know I haven't seen this face face
to face before, you know, And so I was like, oh,
and then she said no, I was never on your show.
I'm like, okay, that much I know. So anyway, low Bosworth,
you obviously people would have become familiar with you a
(04:34):
long time ago from a show you were on called
The Hills, which was like probably the first reality show really.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Or Laguna Beach before that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Oh yeah, it was early Laguna Beach.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I don't know if you remember that, but that was
twenty years ago. We started were it debuted in two
thousand and four, which is when I graduated high school
and then started college. So yeah, a full twenty years
ago Laguna came on the air, and then The Hills
followed that. So so it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Listen, you made a career out of being on a
reality show that was that wasn't a thing before. I mean,
it's a thing now, but you were able to parlay
that into something meaningful and great. So fucking good for you,
and congratulations.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I've been working on love Wellness for going on nine
years now, which is just blows my mind. I don't
think I've been able to commit that long to anything
in my life.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, that is a long time.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
I'm really passionate about women's wellness. And I started the
company out of, you know, really my own need for
better products in the healthcare space. And I really, to
be honest with you, was determined not to be a
reality television personality forever as my byline, and now I
realize it probably just will be anyway, so whatever, I've
(05:49):
kind of moved past that. But I think coming off
that show, I had so much trauma. And I'm sure
you talk to a lot of people who are on
reality that have such traumatic experience is on it, And
for a long time, in the early days of reality,
those stories were not really validated. They were pushed to
the side. It was like, well, you're famous, so like
(06:09):
shut up about your feelings. But now I think there's
a better understanding just how like manipulative and terrible those
shows can be, you know, in people's psyche. And I
started my business really as sort of a second chance
in life to be honest with you, Like I had
to get away from LA I moved to New York,
(06:31):
and I really I really started my life over again.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, And I had read too that you used sort
of like the last bit of your earnings from the
show to develop this product line and start the business.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Right, that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I just want to say that our business is now
worth I mean, you guys made it. I think I
said one hundred million dollars this year right where it's
valuated at one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It's valuated or even that, but I we can't talk.
We can't talk about our revenue yet for twenty two
twenty four. But we're doing very well.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Okay, Well, I just wanted to say it's very successful.
So that's thing point we're trying to get across. Yeah,
so tell us, Okay, give us your backstory, like what happened,
what kind of like what was your issue that led
you to discover and launch this kind of brand.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
So I was in a really terribly sad, emotionally abusive
romantic relationship, and in that relationship, I was very depressed
and very anxious, and I also had a whole host
of women's health issues, urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and
it was like chronic. I was just always sick. And
(07:39):
there was really a tipping point for me though, where
I was normal one day and then the next day,
I was just not I was like lay on the
floor depressed, like go home to my mommy for three
months depressed kind of a thing. And I was going
to the doctor over and over and over again and
trying to advocate for myself and just being told that,
you know, here's some prozac, you need to exercise more,
(08:01):
drink more water, whatever, the typical medical gas lighting that
I think a lot of women experience and have historically
experienced in this country for a very long time. It
wasn't until I was eighteen months into this health journey
of trying to understand why I was okay one day
and then so not okay kind of the overnight that
(08:21):
my GP finally agreed to just to a blood panel
and test my vitamin levels, like the most basic blood
test you can do, and it came back as like deficient, deficient, deficient, deficient.
It was overwhelming, but it was my very first data
point that there was something physiologically wrong with me, and
I wasn't making it up because I was being made
to feel that I was just making all of this
(08:43):
stuff up. And so with that first data point that
I was dealing with these vitamin deficiencies, I actually had
some information to go on, right, and then I kind
of took that information to better doctors that were approaching
healthcare from a more holistic point of view, which is
I think because coming more popular in our health care
(09:03):
system here, but you still have a lot of doctors
very focused on their primary area that they focus on.
And so I was looking for a gynecologist to say
that could help me connect the dots better between vaginal
health issues and gut health issues or the brain stuff
that I was experiencing, and finally got a healthcare team
in place that said, you know, I think that actually
(09:25):
all of these things are connected. I think that you
have a gut health issue because you are the antibiotic generation.
I was born in nineteen eighty six. For every little thing,
we took an antibiotics, antibiotics all the time.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
We were raised on goldfish crackers from Costco, Like I
love a goldfish cracker, and we have messed up gut
microbiomes and as a result, we have vitamin deficiencies, we
have anxiety and depression because of leaky gut and the
connection between the gut and the brain and that blood
(09:57):
brain barrier. And then from the gut to the vagina.
We have gout dys biosis that results in vaginal health issues.
Because the gut microbiome and the vaginal microbiome talk to
each other, it's called quorum sensing. The gut bacteria literally
tell your vagina bacteria, hey, like, we're in good health here,
you should be in good health down there, or the inverse,
(10:20):
which is crazy. And so I finally started to understand
what was going on in my body. But this was
like twenty fifteen. There was still a lot of emerging
research on just the gut microbiome coming out, very little
on the vaginal microbiome. That took kind of like the
course of my business up until this point to get
better understanding and research on women's microbiomes, but started to
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develop products based off of the holistic recommendations of some
excellent doctors that were as simple as take a probiotic,
use an intimate cleanser without fragrance. And it was these
simple solutions that actually really made such a pivotal change
in my health and allowed me to get better. And
I decided I'm going to launch a business with a
(11:02):
focus on these white space innovation types of products for
women that really can fundamentally change the game for how
we take care of our bodies at an accessible price
point in everyday types of stores. Right, And it was
twenty sixteen when I launched the company. It was right
after the presidential election in twenty sixteen. And yeah, here.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We are eight years later, many years later, in an
interestingly similar place. I am curious about when you talk
about leaky gut. So obviously you change the items that
you were taking, the probiotics and that sort of thing.
Did you do any sort of protocols to address leaky
gut or anything like that?
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yeah, So, you know, when I was kind of initially
going through this discovery, my doctors thought, well, maybe you
have some food intolerances things like that, and I certainly do.
But I'm also a human and still sometimes eat through
those things anyway. And the only way to really find
out if you have a food allergy or an intolerance
(12:05):
is to do a diet where you eliminate that thing
from your diet for a significant period of time. And
I did that with gluten. And I was pretty surprised
when I reintroduced gluten how how negatively affected I was,
because the reality is, if you're eating something that you
have an intolerance to every single day over time, your
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reaction to it is not going to be very big.
It's going to be kind of consistent. You kind of
get to that like baseline kind of reaction. It's brain fog,
it's bloating, whatever. But when I eliminated gluten from my
diet and then reintroduced it, I like got vertigo, I
got like horribly sick. I was like, oh my gosh,
(12:49):
I really have a gluten problem. But yeah, elimination diets
are really kind of the gold standard for understanding if
you have some kind of foodish How.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Long do you think it takes, like when you eliminate
something like gluten, for you to actually feel the results
of that, the impact.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
That it has on your body, the positive benefits. Yeah,
I think within a week you probably start to feel
the positive benefits of it. If you have a food
intolerance to that thing. Do I think you get max
benefits in a month? Maybe probably longer than that. I
think if you've been eating something you have an intolerance
(13:24):
to your entire life, it's going to take a while
for your body to heal from all of that inflammation.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Because I just feel like, is it everyone intolerant of
I mean not intolerant, but kind of allergic gluten. Well,
because we put of all the shit we put it
in and put in this. When I eat bread in
other countries, I.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Don't have the specifically in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I think you're right, whose body that's along with that?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well, the thing is, what we use in the US
has about like seven or eight times the gluten of
the wheat that we evolved eating over ten thousand years,
So our body is, oh, really it does. It was
It's usually a GMO, and it was made to help
feed the world.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Like the scientists who created it was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's gonna help feed all these poor serving kids in
these countries, and we're eating it here in the US.
And that's why you go to like Italy or whatever.
Like I don't have any reaction to gluten in Italy
or France or any.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Of those places.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But here it's like I can eat Italian flower that
I'm making here, you know, pasta or bread or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I'm fine.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
The second I eat something that's like US bread flour,
it's it's over for me.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
In about twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Speak agriculture for you, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We're agrarians over here, Low, we're agrarians. I'm a government official, Yeah,
for the agriculture Agricultural Department. Can you imagine so one
said you have to get up and speak about that
for an hour, I'd be like, you better give me
a long hit stat so okay, and so then launching that,
because I've tried. I've been in you know where you've
tried to launch a business, and I just it is
(14:49):
so fucking arduous to get something off the ground that
anyone who's been able to do it successfully. I'm just
in like awe.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Of you know, I'm pretty relentless.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, you sound like you really have your shit together.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I really love the subject matter like I love biology,
I love the human body. I am just fascinated by it.
And I think if you get into any business and
you really want to be in it for the long haul,
you have to really love what you're doing. And I
actually gave up the CEO role in my business last
(15:23):
March or March of twenty twenty three so that I
could focus on innovation, regulatory marketing, the stuff that I'm
really really passionate about, because, to be honest with you,
like the CEO job is a tough job. I was
a CEO for the first seven years of my business
and was able to successfully grow and guide that business
(15:45):
as a first time founder and CEO to a you know,
pretty significant size. I'm so proud of my accomplishment. But
to really scale the business to be like a major
player in Walmart and in Target, which are our retail partner,
you have to have done that before and with success.
It's really hard to walk into the room at Walmart,
(16:06):
never having ever been there before and say like, trust
me and I can deliver products on time, and like
I know about all the margins and you know all
the coupons and stuff you guys want to do No. No,
Like being an owner or an operator of consumer brand
means that you really have to have done it before,
or you have to be willing to bring on a
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team that has done it before that can help you.
And so that's where I'm really at now in terms
of kind of my journey with the business. I don't
have to do one on ones anymore, thank god, but
I'm still really focused on all the product innovation and
really a lot of regulatory work. We sit in a
very interesting category in supplements and cosmetics that's not actually
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regulated by the FDA in terms of like ingredients or safety,
really just in terms of claims. And there's like a
big consumer misconception that the FDA is all over these
products in terms of like safety and stuff, but they're not,
and it's really on brands to do the self regulation.
So that's one of my kind of missions is to
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make really clean, you know, efficacious products for women in
a category of a lot of frankly just like bullshit,
because a lot of brands will just sell you a
gummy vitamin and say it works it's going to like
solve all your problems when they won't.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And how are you, as a consumer supposed to know
which brands are full of shit and which brands aren't.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's so hard, It's it's truly so hard.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's like I'm not reading any of these fucking labels,
you know what I mean, And I wouldn't even know
what to be looking for.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I just do so much challenge. Yeah, you know, a
lot of brands now tout like, oh, like clinically studied ingredients,
but like they don't actually have necessarily like the clinically
proven amount of that ingredient.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Air product or the formulation that works best, you know,
even like co Q ten is something I started taking recently,
and there's like five different kinds and like one is
very accessible by your body, and like the rest are not.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
You know, you have to take way more. And it's
sort of like on a basis.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
I think, you know, I want to believe that most
brands are trying to do right by the consumer. What
I will say is that.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, don't assume that because they're not. I mean, I
know that's not true.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I know, but in this category, like, I want to
believe that right. I want to believe that if a
woman starts a business for women's health in her heart,
she has good intentions in mind for her customer base. Yes,
I don't think that that is always the case, and
I can think of a few examples where that's specifically
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not the case. But I have to to just to
be able to like get up and operate every single
day and live in the earth that we're living in
and have some hope about the innate goodness in people, you.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, it's called love Wellness dot Com for people who
want to go and order stuff from her company because
I like the idea of having your own health issues
and then finding a solution, which is the impetus for
starting a company. I think that's a very natural, kind
of like linear thing to do. And I think you're
right about female founders. I mean, I think for the
most part, you know women's it's like it's we we're
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not handed anything. You have to actually, no, actively go
and work probably twice as hard as a man to
start a company to get to.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Cardi B said ten times is hard the other day,
and I thought, yes, Cardi B.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
She's always been better at math than I have. So
we'll take her. I'll take whatever she says. Yeah. So
what's happening with your personal life? You're not married, right?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I have a fabulous partner, he's great, we live together rightly. Love.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I love that you don't have kids.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I can tell by the look on someone's face if
they have children.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I look so rested to you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Don is glowing.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I'm kidding. No, we would love to have children, but
not not yet. What I want to go back to,
well maybe soon but maybe.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay, okay, Well that's obviously a pregnancy announcement. It's not
it's absolutely not leaky gut exactly. I hear a lot
about leaky gut, but like what physicality does that take
on in your body? Like what happens?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I might I'll probably let Low take this, but it's
a lot of inflammation and other stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Right, is something actually leaking from your gut?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Yeah, So like think of it like when you eat
food and imagine if in that food there was like
some like weird bacteria or something like let's say you
eat fish. Okay, I'm giving you like a very like
basic example. Let's say that there's some like weird bacteria
in the fish that you eat, and because you keep
eating foods that are inflammatory to your body, your gut
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wall lining may have like tiny little gaps in it, right,
and that like weird bad thing may be able to
get through that gap, get into your blood stream and
then go up to your brain and if it's small enough,
penetrate the blood brain barrier and theoretically affect your brain health.
And so that's like at the macro level the concept
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of leaky gut.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You should be on Gray's anatomy. Low, she's very well, seriously,
I mean that's actually great. I've been wondering what leaky
gut is for a long time. By the way it sounds,
I assumed it had something to do with your asshole,
like that your asshole, that disaster. You know, it turns
into a ship store.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
I mean, it could cause you to have like a
lot of diarrhea and stomach upset if you have leaky gut,
to be honest with you, because your probably your stomach
is probably so inflame from all the weird stuff that
your body like doesn't agree with or you're putting in
all so.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
But it's just there's a lot of like vaginal health
talk that we're having these days. When you know, you'd
never think about how healthy your vagina is unless there's
something wrong, unless there's an issue. It's not like you're like, oh.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Well, I always like to tell the team. It's like
when you don't notice anything, like, that's the ideal state, right, right,
It's like when you don't know what's what's anything amiss,
that's like where you want to be. That's the healthy state.
What I think is cool about the vagina is that
it's actually an immunity organ and very few people know
that or think about it that way, but it is right,
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there's a lot of talk about vaginal pH levels. That's
like very like you know that terminology is used a lot. Now.
Vaginal pH is acidic because it protects you from overgrowth
of bad bacteria or bad yeast or pathogens things like that,
because like, guess what the vagina like is the entrance
up into your uterus, right, Like it's your fertility kingdom
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up in there, and so your vagina is protecting you
from bad things that come and invade. But the vagina
is very smart. The vagina will attack things that are
not self, right, like you know, a bad bacteria or
you know a bad pathogen that like doesn't come from you,
But it will not attack sperm. It knows that sperm
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is not self, but it knows that it's not bad.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Is it interesting?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
It's like an organ, but it's a brain. Honestly, she's smart.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
She is. She sounds as smart as an elephant. I mean,
how do you know who's welcome and who's not.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
She's smart.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Although, then if the vagina were that smart, it should
know that when they when someone's in danger and the
sperm is coming to not let that sperm in. If
it were really smart, it would fend off like rapists
and you know, all the bad guys sperm.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I wouldn't that be just yeah, that would do a
dreamy a dreamy scenario.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I think there's some Republican senators who do think that
that happens, which is a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
But yeah, well, Vagina's only going to get smarter as
we move on. Guys, it's evolution. People are getting smarter,
not dumber, although some people are really stupid. Yeah, okay,
we're going to take a break on that note and
get rid of all the stupid people and we'll be
right back and we're back with less stupid people and
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with low bosworth. Okay, we are. We're going to take
some questions and some callers lower. Are you ready for
some action?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I'm ready, I'm ready. Yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, our first question, this one's just an email, so
she won't be joining us. But this question comes from Annie.
Annie says, Dear Chelsea. I've been a fan and listener
from the start. I'm a psychologist who primarily administers intellectual
and personality assessments.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
A few years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I was unfortunately in an abusive relationship and experienced a
traumatic brain injury, also known as a TBI. As a
result of that injury, I have a diagnosis of aphasia.
In my case, it's a wall between my formerly large
vocabulary similar to yours, and my ability to access it
as necessary during quick communication. My question is, can you
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give me some of the tips you discuss on the
podcast that you use to continually increase your vocabulary? Also
any advice on how to manage the anxiety that comes
at work and increases the severity of my ability to
access my vocabulary forever one of your biggest fans and supporters, Annie.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
First of all, I want to say one thing. Accessing
your vocabulary and having a phasia, you have to understand
that it's okay not to have to use sophisticated words
all the time. It's okay to communicate like your main
goal is to relay something a thought or a message
or whatever. So just do that in the simplest way
without putting pressure on yourself to remember the bigger words
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to do that that's not necessary right now in the meantime,
what you can do, and what I always do is
I always have vocab words. I have word of the
day dictionary, you know things I get a million words
of the day, I always print them out, have them laminated.
I collect them, like if I there's twenty new words,
I put them out and put them in a laminated
sheet and put them in my closet or put them
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on your fridge, so that you're seeing them every single day.
And I guarantee you you will start to imprint new
words into your vocabulary, and then you're gonna have a
whole new slew of words. And some of those words
that you already know will be repeated, but you're cementing
them in your brain in a visual way, and that
lends itself to memorizing things more easily, even if you
are dealing with aphasia.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah and lo, I know you had a traumatic brain
injury a few years ago.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Is this question calus some tailor for me?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yes, well, we do do that.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I know you're like an English teacher, like posting up
your words.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I love it. It's all I've got.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I had a traumatic brain injury in twenty nineteen. I
was at a restaurant in Manhattan and one of the
swinging kitchen doors came off its hinge and fell onto
my head. And it was pretty brutal, and I dealt
with some loss of vocabulary for a period of time.
I think that I have mostly recovered, but sometimes it
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still happens to me where I can't come up with
the word and it's it's really really tough. What I
would say is that brain exercises really helped me. Whether
it's brain games, it could be as simple as dedicating
yourself to twenty minutes of reading a book every single night,
just to kind of activate your brain again to be
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reading and understanding just language in general. But I would
give yourself just as much physical rest as you can
in the time that you can right really focus on sleep.
We know that as women, we need more sleep than men.
And one of the things that my doctors recommended for
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me while I was going through my TBI recovery was
to really avoid inflam foods because inflammatory foods can cause
even more brain fog, and I think it can probably
make the aphasia that she's talking about even worse. I
notice for myself when I eat a bunch of gluten,
I really struggle with my vocabulary, really struggle to find
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the words that I'm looking for. And when I eat
a cleaner diet that doesn't seem to be as big
of a deal for me. I'm also going to go
down the peptides Injectavle's rabbit hole right now into something
called BP seven one five seven. I take that in
PC BPC BPC, thank you BP you see one five
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seven right? Yeah, And this has actually started to be
recommended for people who have brain issues. It is a
gastric acid. I think that supposedly can help with like
brain lesions and things like that, So I would look
into that. It's supposed to be like a crazy like
healer type of peptide. It is on I think the
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list of Worldwide Band substances for doping. So I hope
that you're not.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
A can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
it can't be a professional athlete and take it, but
the general.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Population can take it and it may.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Help, and yeah, it may help. And and also that also
helps with like physical recovery and injuries, Like I injected
into my knee area all the time, especially when I'm skiing,
because it helps like kind of heal whatever your issues are.
The other thing I wanted to say what Logs touched
upon though, is that your diet at the correlation between
you put in your body and your mental alacrity is
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scientifically proven. So like I know, if I'm about to
do some event, like if I'm gonna do this podcast,
I don't eat before I do that because my mind
isn't as sharp. Your mind will always be sharp. When
you're a slightly hungry, it'll be sharper. You know, when
you're full and you feel tired and you're not digesting things, well,
that's when you start to get lazy and you feel
less kind of vibrant. So just be mindful of that.
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And you know, when you eat, don't overeat because that
puts you into like then you spike your blood sugar
and then you go high and then you crash. So
you have to be really mindful of your diet, especially
when you're talking about these kinds of issues. It's like
we're doctor Phil and doctor Great.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Great.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I feel like where you have like a doctor, this
is like two doctors. We're like two really medically advanced laymen.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, exactly, yes, BBC one.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, So our next question comes from Cynthia, and she
will be joining us on the phone here in a moment.
She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a thirty nine year old
woman living in Brooklyn, New York. With my beautiful girlfriend
of four years now, my fiance. I have a great job.
I love my fiancee to pieces. I'm not the most
social person and I don't have many friends, if any
at all. I consider myself an intelligent person, and I've
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been in therapy for many years on and off to
help me cope with childhood trauma. I think the root
of my depression, or maybe the consequence of it, is
I have zero motivation. I don't have the willpower to exercise.
I have a pretty shitty diet, and I basically just
work to come home to do the same cycle the
next day. I know that diet and exercise is a
huge factor for bettering myself mentally and physically, but I
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just can't seem to find the energy or motivation to
get up and do all the things I probably should
to make myself feel better. I used to be on
antidepressants and anti anxiety meds, but stopped them on my
doctor's advice, because it withered my sex drive down to nothing.
I've been off my meds for a couple months now,
and I've been feeling the ups and downs of that.
I'm consumed with shame and guilt at the fact that
I know exactly what I have to do, but the
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fuck it in my brain is much stronger than any
of those thoughts. I've talked to a doctor and they
tell me I just need to push myself. But how
I've had times in my life where I did have motivation,
like in my twenties, and I'd get up an exercise
and eat a healthier diet. But I feel like that
part of me is just not alive anymore. My fiance
also struggles with the same lack of motivation I do,
so it seems like we enable each other. How can
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I spark some much needed motivation. I'm tired of being tired. Cynthia.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Hi Cynthia, Hlsea Carin Hi.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
This is our special guest, Low Bosworth. She's here today.
Hi trys Cynthia.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Who's going to go first?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Because I have an ada, I think you should go first.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Okay, Cynthia. Have you ever tried meditation because it because
it requires no physical exercise and no dieting. I haven't no,
So meditation is really cool because it creates new neural
pathways in the brain. And creating new neural pathways in
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the brain allows you to create new habits, new hobbies,
new interests, because I think what you may be experiencing
is something that a lot of us are experiencing right now,
which is kind of this like freeze mode in reaction
to potentially the stress of the times we're living in
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or whatever.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Right, I think that there's not a ton of hope
right now, and so I think one of the ways
to think about from an actual like neurochemical neuroplasticity point
of view is how can I create neural pathways to
change how my brain is behaving, and then I can
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change how my body is behaving, right, my behavior can follow.
And so I've been doing something called transcendental meditation off
and on for almost ten years, and it's a tool
in my toolbox that I use when I'm feeling really
anxious or really depressed. And after like five or six
days between transcendental meditation, I wake up and I actually
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feel different and I'm actually inspired to like go do
things differently in my day. So that would be my
immediate go to suggestion. I think outside of just acknowledging
that we live in some really weird times, and I
think what you are describing is to a certain degree
the human condition and we all feel this way from
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time to time.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, okay, that is good advice, and I always endorse
a spouse meditation. But you and your partner are in
a like a funk together, so out of love, Like,
if you can't do it for yourself, then you need
to be doing it for her. You guys have to
get on a different fucking program and you have to
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write down what your goals are. I want you guys
to sit down together tonight and write down what you
want to be accomplishing in a month. Exercise whyle and
diet wise and meditation wise. So now you have like
three tasks that you have to be mindful of every
single day. And you need to be accountable to each other.
And when she's weak, you need to be a little
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bit stronger. And when she and when you're weak, she's
gonna have to pick it up too, because you guys
are kind of commiserating together. And until you break this pattern,
you're not gonna You're gonna be stuck in this pattern.
And you want to be healthy and strong. Yes, when
you don't do anything for long periods of time, you
become less inclined to want to do those things. But
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the minute you say, today, we're gonna go for a
fifteen minute walk together. Fifteen minutes you can do that together. Yeah,
and you're gonna feel the benefit of that when you
get back. You might be annoyed and like h but
you're just gonna do that every day for one week
from now. Fifteen minutes of exercise together. The two of
you have to do together if you can, can you yeah,
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I think we can. Yeah, that's nothing, okay. And then
you can download a meditation app, any of them. You can.
I do Chopra, which is called Presence. They just change
name of it, but start with an app because those
are easier. There's ten percent happier. There's head space space.
Headspace is really user beginner friendly. Download Headspace. Do that.
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Headspace is a good And you guys can meditate together.
That's an even more powerful vibration to create. It's two
people meditating together, two people that love each other, like
you're doing this together. This is a team. Now you're
on a team with your partner, and you're gonna put
fifteen minutes a day towards exercise. You're gonna do five
minutes a day to begin with of meditation, and you're
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gonna be mindful of what you eat. Doesn't mean you
have to change your entire life, but just start to
make little healthier choices.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
One thing that's really helped me is the addition of
healthy choices, especially when you're just starting out. It's like
adding in a little fresh fruit, adding in a fresh salad,
like something that's really manageable and easy, and like, you
start to crave that stuff even more.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yes, absolutely, instead of French fries, get a salad instead
of whatever, just those things. It doesn't sound appealing, I understand,
But once you start to practice these things, you're going
to create all of those neural pathways that she's talking about,
and you're going to start to crave the goodness and
the like. You're going to start to crave to move
your body for fifteen minutes. You just have to commit
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on the lowest level. And then also, I think what
you should do is write down at the end of
the day, how you felt about all of the stuff
you did. How did I feel about the exercise, How
did you feel after you exercise good, bad, exhausted, whatever?
How did you feel after you made a healthier choice
with your food?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Good?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bad, great, didn't matter to have no impact. Write that
down for a week, and I promise you will start
to see benefits and you're going to start to feel differently.
Your lack of motivation is feeding itself, right, so now
you have to feed it something else.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I have a question for you too. Is there a
room for a dog in your life?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
You know right now?
Speaker 9 (36:55):
No, we have a small apartment like super you know,
I'm saying, are going to be cool with it, but
we are planning to move eventually and definitely want to
get a dog.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I think that is such a helpful tool in getting
you to the movement more because you're just like, I'm
out with my dog, I'm listening to a podcast. Maybe
I'm having a good time. I want to go on
extra block.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Like it just helps so much getting you out and about.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, and being outdoors at all, whether it's nice, ugly, cold, gray,
is good for your system. That's good for your immuniony system,
It's good for your energy. Like you have to feed
yourself of medicine because you're depriving yourself of all of
the things that life has to offer. Everything's here for you,
and you're choosing to not you know what I mean,
you got to like step it up a little bit.
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And on the medication front, also, is your sex drive
better without the medication? It hasn't.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
I mean it's only been about three months and I'm
just like waiting around to see what's gonna happen, and
I'm still kind of at a lull.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Okay, So then maybe you do need the medication. Like
with the medication making you not sex too.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
Yeah, I think that it contributed to me not having
any kind of sex drive, and my doctors agreed that
that does usually happen on anti anxiety meds or antidepressants
of certain kinds.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Okay, So I think what you should do is do
this this prescription that I've given you for the next
four weeks. Okay, do that and see if your mood changes,
and if that at that point it doesn't, I want
you to call us back, Okay, But you guys have
to do this every day together. You have to commit
to it.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And I love what you say about like starting small.
I think, like it's not new advice, but it is
the best advice, like, because you do get the ball
rolling when you start.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, you just got to pick up, like you made
this call. You're calling in because you want to change
your life. Yeah, and now you have the opportunity to
change your life. I just told you the simplest things
to do. They're totally accomplishable, regardless of what happens in
our atmosphere, what's happening right now, that has no impact,
you know what I mean. Just I want you to
move forward caring about your body and caring about your
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partner's body.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So I wanted to ask, too, are there any supplements
that you would recommend as far as sexual wellness and
increasing libido or anything like that, especially for women.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
I think, honestly, I think a great multi vitamin is
just a good place to start. We make a great
one at Love Wellness. Not to toot our own.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Hornbag, go go to lovewllness dot com and pick up
a multi vitamin. That's always good. Everyone needs fucking vitamins.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
There are some libido supplements out there that you can try,
but I think just in general, there are some like
classic herbs that support women's health that are actually found
in our multi vitamin as kind of herbal add ons
like Ashwagonda, Chaste tree, Saint John's wort et cetera. But
a good multi vitamin can really help with hormone balance,
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It can help with some of the neurological stuff that
you're talking about. Ninety percent of Americans have vitamin deficiencies,
most of them are vitamin B and vitamin D, and
that can actually lead to a lot of depression and anxiety.
I dealt with that myself, So I think, you know,
in addition, probably just a routine trip to the doctor,
you know, could be in order just to take like
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a deeper look under the hood. I'm not sure of
your age, and I won't ask, but you know, there's
even the possibility that you could be experiencing some paramenopause symptoms,
which you know, like maybe a factor here. I don't know,
but perimenopause can start in women at age thirty five,
which is something that is like really not talked about.
And so yeah, I think the team here has some
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really good suggestions. And I think I heard you live
in Brooklyn. You probably are doing good things for yourself
already and you're just like not noticing it. Like you're
a New Yorker. I live in New York too, Like
we walk a lot everywhere every single day. You know
what I mean. So that first week that you're taking
a journal, like write down all the things that you're doing,
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Like yes, like go above and beyond and take that
fifteen minute walk. But I suspect that, like you're already
doing some things every year day that you can feel
proud about, and you are stuck in kind of this
like negative self talk environment. And yeah, I think remembering
that you want to do it for your partner and
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that you love them and that you need to be
accountable to them and for them is a really helpful
part of it. Also, you know, it's like whenever my
boyfriend is having a bad day, like that's when I'm
really able to like jump into superhero mode. You know.
It's like, oh you need me, I can do that
for you.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
And so playing that role for each other I think
can be really powerful.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Gotcha, And it's going to put a pep in your step.
I promise you. All of these little micro things are
going to add up together and the sum of its
parts are going to add to your life.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Okay, I hope we haven't overwhelmed you. You can do it.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
No, No, it's not overwhelming at all.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Check in with us again.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, check in with us and maybe we'll have you
up on a couples counseling episode with your partner.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, that's fun. We could do a follow up with
your part and see how you guys are after a month.
That would be amazing. Yeah, and then we can take
it even further.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
All right, thank you, Cynthia. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Okay, so much, thank you, Bye bye bye.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
All right. Our next question comes from Aspen.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Aspin, Colorado. Oh, she lives in North Carolina, but her
name is Aspin.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Maybe that's where she was conceived.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Who knows, Dear Chelsea, I turned thirty this year, and
I've been at my job for ten years. I'm a
hairdresser at an amazing salon who supports me in every
way possible. The issue I'm facing is I had five
and ten year goals and I've mostly hit all of them,
even having a whoopsidoodle baby along the way. I can't
help but feel that now I'm where I want to be.
I'm really restless. I'm very driven, I'm a dream chaser,
(42:49):
but I feel like I've fallen into a very uncharacteristic slump.
I absolutely adore my job and I do dream of
bigger and better things, but I have such a hard
time figuring out what the hell that means. Basically, what
I'm asking is, have you ever been in a career
plettau and how did you get the clarity for your
next big dream? Thank you, aspen As.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
You look incredible.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Thank you. I thought today it was a great day
to wear a pink power suit.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You're correct, excellent, excellent, this is our your outfit, you
look great. This is our special guest, Low Bosworth.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
Hi, Hi, I've been a fan for a long time too.
This is wild.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Oh thanks, that's so nice. It's nice to meet you.
Speaker 8 (43:25):
Nice to meet you, too, Low.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Did you want to go first since you're such a
power top. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
Honestly, I think sometimes it's okay to be in a slump.
Here's how I think about it. I think that you
could go too hard on being so good at stuff
and too hard at like doing nothing and being lazy.
I think that when I talk about balance, that's what
I mean. Like I working on fertility stuff for myself
right now. I'm taking so many fucking supplements every night
(43:53):
and doing all this stuff. And I decided the other night,
like I had it I needed to go out and
have a drink, and I realized we're talking about your
career and not like your wellness personal life. But I'm
just trying to create that parallel, right, is that, like,
you can take a break from being a boss bitch
if you want to. There is a lot of good
(44:15):
in taking a break, in letting it coast, in letting
it ride for a little while. You can accomplish a
lot of personal goals.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Right.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
You can get a lot of sleep, you can drink
that cocktail that you're drinking, right. And so I didn't
expect this to be the advice that tumbled out of
my mouth, especially on this podcast or we're like girls, yeah, entrepreneurs, Yeah,
but like my god, it's exhausting to always try to
be the best and to always try to do the
right thing. And so maybe you take this moment as
(44:47):
a time for rest and self reflection and when your
body and mind are ready, it will come to you.
Perhaps your body and mind are not ready.
Speaker 7 (44:57):
He I mean that definitely all resonates for where it's
exhausting always feeling like you have to be the best.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
I mean, I feel like it's helpful in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 7 (45:06):
And it's helped me get as far as I have,
like having such a high standard, but at the same time,
like it's hard to keep that going, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
It's hard to keep that going. And also when you're
really good at multiple things in life, there is such
truth to what Loja said, like sometimes you have to
chill out to let the mood strike you, like when
you're in search of the next job, the next project,
like that aggressively, sometimes you're kind of almost creating a
(45:35):
blockade towards that goal, you know, because you're putting so
much pressure on yourself. Like there is something to be
said for enjoying the moment that you're in because you're
not struggling right now, and you might be in a
little bit of a plateau, as you say, but out
of plateaus, things rise up, you know what I mean.
(45:55):
So enjoy this time because you may not have a
quiet time like this moving forward. And I wouldn't put
so much pressure on I have to come up with
this next thing. What is the next thing? I'm too
productive and too smart to not be this productive. That
is kind of like, you know, almost a negative self
talk cycle as well. So I would say, enjoy the
(46:16):
time that you're having, You're in control of your situation.
Things seem to be under control, right.
Speaker 7 (46:21):
I'm definitely maybe two in control of my situation sometimes honestly, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Well tell us about that, I mean expand Yeah.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
So I've always had like a very clear idea since
i was really young of exactly what I wanted to do.
I went to school for it, I did it. I
became really successful at a really young age. I mean
I'm only thirty now and I've been at my salon
for ten years, which is kind of wild, and I've
gotten to the top of the salon and I think, yeah,
like I said, I had all those goals. I'm and
I was so meticulous about every day, this number I
(46:51):
hit every month, this number I hit every year, at
this number I hit every like just kind of.
Speaker 8 (46:56):
Obsessed with it. And I've been so obsessed with it.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
I think being control of my own career and my
own pathway that now that I've kind of gotten to that,
you know, goal that I had. The not having control
of it anymore is I think a little bit terrifying
because I'm like, wait, now I don't have control of
the future, because I don't know what the fuck the
future is.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
And do you have anything that you're thinking about doing next.
Speaker 7 (47:18):
I mean, that's what I was saying too, is I
absolutely love what I do, but I can't help to
like I do still feel like I had this like pit,
like this feeling in my stomach of like I'm not
fulfilling my full potential, Like I feel like I might
have more to offer the world than I'm currently offering it.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That makes sense, and if that's true, that will come
to you in a natural way. I think you sound
very controlling, you know what I mean, Like you're you're
a control freak of your own life. I mean, who
most people are. So that's fine, But I think this
is actually a good lesson that you're calling in to
talk to us, and we're telling you both to just
we're both telling you just to chill out, chill out
(47:54):
and like allow ideas to come your way. And I'm
sure whatever it is will naturally organically appear in your
life once you stop looking so hard for it. It's
like trying to find a boyfriend.
Speaker 7 (48:06):
Right, Yeah, exactly. I mean that's honestly like how I
met my husband ten years ago.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
Too. I finally was like fuck it, I'm done dating.
I'm just gonna work.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
And then literally three days later he comes to the
salon and is like, hey, you marry me?
Speaker 8 (48:15):
And I was like, okay, okay, great.
Speaker 6 (48:18):
It sounds like you have to learn how to sit
in your discomfort a little bit. It feels like you're
really uncomfortable and you're really trying to get out of
that uncomfortable. I don't know what to say in control.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
So if you're trying something uncomfortable, yeah, I mean, what'd
you say been?
Speaker 8 (48:35):
They're done that?
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, Well, just you got just something to shake shit up.
I just love that she's having a cocktail. Okay, Well
this is good. What's your takeaway from this call?
Speaker 8 (48:44):
It was definitely really helpful for sure. I mean I
think I knew that deep down.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
But it's almost like when you're a little bit of
a control freak and like a go getter, you almost
need permission from somebody else to do nothing for a
minute because it's like.
Speaker 8 (48:56):
You're you never give that permission to yourself.
Speaker 7 (48:58):
So I feel like it's really nice to get permission
from women that I really respect to I consider to
be go getters as well.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, also like be really proud of yourself for getting
this far in your life. You're thirty years old. You've
accomplished all of the goals that you had set out,
which leads me to believe that you are going to
accomplish the next set of goals you set out, and
there is no timeframe on those things. So be very
proud of your competency and your ability to like follow
through on all of these dreams that you've had. Like
(49:24):
that is a huge accomplishment, So like we yeah, enjoy that.
Go with that for a minute.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Luxuriate in your accomplishments, like you've earned the right to
sit back and take a break, and.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
You're only fucking thirty, Like this is Awesomey, that's so cool.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
You know, I feel like I grew up really fast
as I had a kid at twenty one, so it
makes you grow up really quickly. But so sometimes I
think I feel that I'm older than I am. But yeah,
you're right, I am only thirty and I do have
lots of time.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
To figure out Yeah, yeah, yeah you will.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
All right.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Well, thank you so much for calling in Aspen by
as Ben.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Yes, thank you, Chelsea for all the u I've been
a huge fan since I was you know, like fifteen
years old watching Chelsea Lately on the couch with my
mom at night. So this has been an honor to
talk to you. So thank you for being a huge
role model to me.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Oh thanks, thank you, thank you. Bye?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
What is sweetie? So funny?
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Because Cynthia was upset at herself because she didn't have
the motivation, and you know, asked me's upset at herself?
Speaker 1 (50:22):
We should combine those two getting together too much motivation?
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Yeah, she's like.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What's next? I'm like, I take a nap exactly, and
nap is so delicious, coun.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
So let's take a quick break and we'll be back
with one kind of wild question that we have.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Okay, we're going to take a break, and we're back
with low Bosworth.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
We are back, and our final question comes from Savannah.
She is twenty nine. She writes to your Chelsea, my
boyfriend tried to fuck a stripper two weeks ago, and
I'm wondering what I should do. I'm leaning toward the
idea for giving him, going to couple's therapy and working
through it. But part of me can't help but think,
what if this is who he is? Are these his
true colors? How Can I trust a liar? Do people
(51:10):
genuinely make mistakes? Or am I just a sucker? For context,
I'm a twenty nine year old girl and my boyfriend
is thirty one. He's the absolute love of my life,
the most thoughtful, caring, passionate person I've ever known. He
truly has a heart of gold. This sounds ridiculous, I know,
but it is true. When we first got together, all
of his friends warned me not to break his heart.
(51:31):
Who knew I would be the one getting screwed? Well,
me and at least one other person. We were close
friends for two years before he became a couple, and
have been dating for a year and a half and
we lived together. Here's my problem. It's not so much
the stripper, it is the lying, the deception. I feel tricked, betrayed, bamboozled,
you get it. He went out of town, a three
hour drive away on a work trip and was going
(51:52):
to be gone for one, maybe two nights. The second
day is wrapping up and he decides to stay another night.
I fell asleep on the couch and woke up at
two am grabbed my phone. To my surprise, he never
called or texted, so I facetimed him and he was
in an uber acting pretty weird, but it was late
and I didn't want to get into it, so I
went to bed. When he got home the next day,
the vibes were kind of weird, so I asked him
(52:12):
what he did that night and told him it was shitty.
He was too tired to drive, but went out and partied.
The area he was in has a lot of strip clubs,
so I asked if he went to a strip club,
and he said no. I could tell he was lying,
so I reassured him that I wouldn't be mad. I
just would like to know the truth. He insists he
did not go to a strip club. Doubles down, triples down.
So I tell myself I trust him. I have no
(52:34):
reason not to. And a week goes by. Then Chelsea,
I have a horrible gut feeling.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
All week.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I can't sleep, and I keep thinking he cheated on me,
which is not normal. So I did the thing you're
not supposed to do, and I looked at his phone.
I went to his deleted text messages. Oh so he
was smart enough to delete it, and found that he
texted a stripper that night that he was on his
work trip. Hey, this is Tony, come to Indigo Hotel.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
I got you.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
I leave at ten am. I feel so heart broken,
confused and deceived. Am I a fool for not walking away?
Or am I throwing something amazing away for a stupid mistake?
Savannah lo, would you like to begin?
Speaker 6 (53:11):
No?
Speaker 4 (53:13):
See, this is the thing she says, like, my boyfriend
tried to fuck a stripper. But like, who's saying she
didn't show up? Nobody's saying she didn't show up. He
might have done it.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Your boyfriend lied to you repeatedly. He chose to stay
in a hotel, motel around a bunch of strip clubs
instead of coming home to you. That is all the
information that you need to know. That's it. No other
information is relevant. That's what he chose to do. He's
telling you exactly who he is, and that's it. He's
(53:42):
a liar. Yeah bye.
Speaker 6 (53:44):
I mean like he spent a lot of time to
like plan, prepare, egxecute. This was not off the cuff, right,
which means that if you he's done this before, Yeah, Like,
it does take a lot of bravery. I think to
like go out and to actively cheat on somebody who
(54:06):
you love in a lot of ways, Like it takes
a lot of balls to actually execute against that plan.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
It's the lying after the facts. Yeah, if there was
nothing to hide, he would have just told you, Yeah,
I did, I tried to fuck a stripper. I've ever
done that before. It's the lying. So it's over. Like,
that's not somebody you can trust, and that's not somebody
who has your best interest. So that's the that's the news,
and I hope that you act on that and instead
of finding out about this happening in another six months, right, you.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Know, there is a question of like is your tolerance
level to let him go do these things and like
have that kind of relationship and if it is, fine,
but like you can't really get past the lying, Like
there's no tolerance level for lying.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I really the lying is I can't deal with any
adults who lie. It's it's adults.
Speaker 6 (54:53):
It's too stupid lie are never going to learn how
to unlie, you know what I mean. Like, if you're
an adult that lies, that's just pattern of behavior. It's
who you are, and like you're not going to change.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
So yeah, so Savannah, I think.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
It's over anyways, Savannah, sorry about that, but there's plenty
of guys out there that won't lie to you.
Speaker 4 (55:11):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Okay, Well, Low Buzzworth, how fun was today?
Speaker 6 (55:16):
Thanks for having me? This was a delight.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
I want everyone to know where you can get her products.
They are available nationwide at Target, Alta Beauty, Walmart, Amazon,
and then at Lovewellness dot com. Yes, and you also
wrote a book called Love Yourself Well so that goes
into all the science behind all of the gut brain,
vagina axis everything we're talking about. And you have a podcast,
(55:38):
right and you have a podcast called Gut Feelings.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
Yes, our love on this podcast is coming back next year.
We're on a little hiatus right now because we got
a lot of work to do, but the podcast will
be coming back.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
Okay, great, Okay, Low, thank you so much. Congrats on
every you Bye.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
If you'd like advice from Chelsea, shoot us an email
at Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail and be sure to
include your phone number. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered
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