May 20, 2024 • 57 mins
From filming locations, to flashbacks, to kept secrets…things were all over the place for this episode.
Hilarie explains how one door closing made space for beautiful things to come as well as an unforgettable night with Chad.
Plus, Sophia found herself rooting for one of Brooke's rivals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. We all about
that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
High school queens.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl
shared for the right teams.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drama, Queens of girl Fashion, but your tough girl, you
could sit with us.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahma, Queens
Drama Queens.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I feel like at the top, it's worth noting that
I like barely finished this episode because I was dealing
with high school sports stuff and it felt very meta.
It felt very one Tree Hill.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
How are you dealing with high school sports stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Because my son plays on a high school team. He's
a novice. They bump up the eighth graders, and so
Gus is so us because there's bullying going on with
the upperclassmen and Gus this week was.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Like not today, not today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He's like Nathan Scott, we only believe in positive leadership.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now there you go.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And I just love how this show infant rds every
corner of our life still the time.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It's amazing all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, on that note, why don't we get started? Season six,
episode twenty one, A Kiss to Build a Dream on
air date April twenty seventh, two thousand and nine. This
episode's synopsis is Peyton and Lucas take a trip in
the comet in the past, and she struggles with the
boredom of being stuck in bed as a pregnant woman
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tip a call. We also have Brooke discovering something that
could change Sam's life, that absolutely will change Sam's life.
Nathan questions his dreams of playing in the NBA, while
Hayley receives an unexpected offer from who. Jamie and Skills
Men their broken hearts at Jamie's first school dance. I
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loved this sequel and Lucas and Peyton remember they remember
a memorable road trip they took together after high school.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I love remembering memorable both things.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Memories.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I liked this episode. I didn't take notes because I
was just like, I'm just gonna watch it. I'm just
gonna watch it to just watch it and not make
it a homework assignment. And I liked that everyone had
real storyline that felt good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, this felt like such an eighties movie to me.
The whole episode was like a fun eighties movie, especially
with the flashbacks and with the Skills at the school
dance and all the literally what do you call it,
the tinsel hanging on the walls, all those shots with
them in this school dance environment. There was so much
about this I really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I'm seeing Erica Dunton directed it, Oh did she?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Erica was a staple. Her dad, Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Dunton, owned the camera house in Wilmington where we got
all of our cameras from. They are like icons in
the camera industry, and Erica was a director who was
like our age and we might have been one of
her first directing credits for TV. She does all sorts
of huge now I want to say she does like
Ted Lasso, like big stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I loved some of those classic choices you're referencing, like that,
the dynamic of skills in Jamie. These two boys kind
of pushing each other to be courageous, you know, across
a generational line was so cute to me. And when
they decided to go to the dance and it smash
cut to them in slow motion walking out of the
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apartment through the halls, it was so good. Yeah, it
was like twenty one Jump Street but better. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
She understands that dynamic of drama and comedy and sometimes
like heightened reality. And I think that's what was playing
really well, is she's just got a really good sense
of storytelling.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is It's a fine line, isn't it, between drama and comedy.
You know, it seems like people think of it as
two separate genres, but it's there's so many comedic moments
in the middle of deep, heavy emotion. I feel like
always these so much of it is so connected that
you're you're on the cusp of either one at any
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given moment. So it's a really natural flow when a
director understands that part of humanity and is able to
convey it in an effective way.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, she's a good chick and very British, you know.
I like a British sensibility brought to Tree Hill. We
needed more of that.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It just felt so big.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I feel like we were all over town, Like, Yeah,
the locations on this were bananas because we were in Trick,
we were in close over Bros. We were at Flame
and Amy's, we were at edge of Urge, the basketball set.
I don't know if that was on stage or if
that was a you know, lany where we were at
the College Trass Coliseum for that, Yeah, I mean we
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were all around town.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And the flashback that was large too also because it
was back in time, that was all over the fricking place. Yeah,
it was a big episode for sure. I loved that.
Though we've got all these different little pockets of storylines,
Let's start with Lucas and Peyton.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I love the dynamic. I love getting to see, you know,
Peyton have a sort of hurdle in front of her
that isn't tragedy. It's so nice to have a good
time with you, Hill, and the sort of comedic sense
of being trapped and bored is just fun. Like the
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jump cuts with you and the Big Bear and the
paper planes and all the things like you just you
can feel that feeling of stuckness, and it's sweet that it's,
you know, wrapped in this romance. Like I love getting
to see Peyton and Lucas happy. I like seeing him
working on the car. I love the way you played
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that beat in the beginning of like You're making me
a present?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
What is it like?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
You don't know, I don't know. It was just all
so enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Thanks well, yeah, Chad and I had hit a rhythm
at that point, you know. I mean, we knew each
other pretty well, and I think I liked to tease
him a lot in real life. I was always just like,
you love me, and he was always just like, what
was like, dude, you fucking love me? You think I'm
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the coolest, And that was I love teasing him about that.
I think I still do. I think anytime I see Chad,
I'm just like, you have missed me. That's just kind
of the dynamic of our relationship. So teasing is a
good bassline for any Lucas Peyton stuff because it was
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really easy to play on. I watched six six twenty
one back to back, so I just watched myself in
a car crash and then it goes to this light stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So I have whiplash right now. I'm like, but I
do like.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I learned stuff in this episode with Peyton and Lucas.
I didn't know that Peyton submitted his book to all
these publishers.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I thought it here, no, right, she.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Thuds Haley with the song in this episode, and then
we see a flashback of her thudding Lucas, and so
that one thud he did back in season one created
a domino effect.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Hey, your art mattered.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm just saying for those of you out there, thud
your friends, it's real.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
It's a great time.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know what else I really liked about the flashback
device with you two. I liked feeling like we got
to go back in time a little bit and see
you so happy because the move to La obviously we know,
as this big sort of schism in your relationship, like
it basically almost destroyed everything. And to see how excited
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they were laying on that car on the precipice of
this shit, and that Peyton is talking about how she's
got all her dreams wrapped up in this boy and
she's going to hold him to all of his promises
and they're going to get married and have a family.
I was like, oh my god, I didn't know she
said that to him.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, the same. And I loved it how far you
guys went when everything fell apart. I love seeing where
you are now and the space that you lived in
before everything fell apart and you found your way back,
like there was there was something kind of heartening about watching.
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I think Nathan is kind of going through the same
thing too, of thinking about old dreams and living in
a place in the future of like I'm still I'm
still working on this dream and they're just working on
it in different ways. Haley too.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
That was really powerful dialogue. It was such a simple thing,
but you know when people use language so well and
the words really mean what they mean, not like it
was the worst or it was, but like you really
like when when you guys are having that conversation when
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Nathan and Haley are talking about, you know, should he
take the offer that's real or hold on to this
fantasy that isn't yet and he says the thing about
maybe he should let go of the fantasy, and you say,
it's not a fantasy, it's your dream.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's really powerful language. And I thought that was such
a great choice. You know, Karen Gist wrote this episode,
and I thought that was such a wise observation to
make out loud, and it's something that you could so
easily miss if you weren't listening, and I just loved it.
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You know, to have someone who tells you not to
give up on your dreams, to have someone who tells
you there they're going to be there with you, it's
really powerful because you can choose.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You can change your mind about a dream, but to
call it a fantasy and say it's not realistic, it'll
never happen. Yeah, I don't like it. I think you
got to You gotta keep keep going.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, especially as how old are these characters. What are
we supposed to be like twenty four? Do I need
to let my dream go? No, bitches, We're in our forties,
still pursuing things.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, I have a question, I'm a very important question.
How long did it take to make that paper airplane
catch work at that Dour in the opening?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I think that was a happy accident, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was just supposed to throw them at him. I
think that was a happy You know, Chad loves sports.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was a football catch with an airplane.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I guess I'm just saying art. It was so great,
so many arts and crafts in this episode, Between Brooks
doodling and Peyton's planes.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And Hailey singing songs, we were.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just Victorian art shredding paper.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I guys, I wow, Toria and San Sam.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And I feel like such a trader, but I love.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
It, by the way I should. I should feel like
a trader, And I think it's so good. And one
of my favorite things Daphne does is the fact that
she calls Sam by her full name, Samantha. I like Samantha.
She's plucky and dark.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Such a great lie.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And by the way, that made my hair raise up
because I was like, plucky and dark Peyton sores plucky
and darkenings right her.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Well, she never liked Brook either, damn it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
She's Yeah, it's interesting to watch her maneuver with Sam
because you don't know if she's doing it to stick
it to Brook. You know, is this like a Dan
Scott move? Remember when Dan had had Lucas move in
to piss Nathan off. Yeah, it's like, is this a
Dan Scott move? Or she's just genuinely curious about this
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little animal who's so abrasive with her, Like maybe if
Brooke had given it back as a teenager and sassed
off to her mom instead of trying to be pleasing,
things would have been different. You know. She when she
asks Sam, how did you weasel your way into my
daughter's life? And she's like, well, I shoplifted and then
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I had her assaulted and then she found me in
a car.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Loved it.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, it's really well done. Their dynamic is so good
and this sort of intergenerational like buddy comedy they're doing
matches the Skills and Jamie and it's just I just
love it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It is a buddy comedy for the girls. That's so true, but.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's a buddy comedy done like Wednesday, like the Adams Family.
It's like, you know, dark and strange and like it's
just the two of them are so funny as themes
to the episode. And I also really loved that in
all of the things they rightfully wrote for me to
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be enraged about, like you're manipulating a child and you
shredded these letters and how dare you? And this isn't
your place and you know all of it the wound
just like you just had Hillary of Like but that's
Peyton and Victoria never liked her. It's like, you're gonna
take this little girl who you called a street urchin
shopping and I'm your child and you never took me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I love that some of our like wounded teenage girls
are popping out. In response to seeing Victoria be kind.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Your delivery of that line hurt me. I was like,
oh god, I feel that she never took me shopping.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's a complicated dynamic. I mean, the mother daughter is
always complicated. But yeah, thinking about how competitive Victoria's been,
I mean, this is a tough sell for Victoria to
be wanting to be seen as genuine and actually investing
in Sam's life and trying to make amends when we
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know there's been so much in her past. That's like
just being competitive with Brooke. It's in a really creepy way,
like why are you competitive with your own child? It's weird.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, with all of her one liners, right, I'm just
wondering if young Victoria wasn't more like Sam, you know
what I mean. Like, it's really easy for women as
we get older to see complicated young people and tolerate
their tomfoolery because we're like, oh man, I was like that,
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Like I love a duff teenage chick. Every time I
meet one, I'm like, hey, kid, come over here, you
can talk to me.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think that there's a softness for.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Kids that are open about their problems, you know, and
Brooke always presented so like I fine, I fine, everything's fine.
I'm the most popular, I'm the prettiest, I'm the most
you know, like Yeah, that could have been off putting
to poor Brook's mother, Oh the hurt.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, it's interesting because when Victoria behaves in her usual
way in this episode, Sam calls her out on it.
So this, you know, this motherless child is mothering my
mother essentially, And at the same time, there's something about
Sam that's clearly making Victoria want to do over. And
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the way they manage to see each other, you know,
Sam encourages her not to be so mean, and Victoria,
in her own way, encourages Sam not to be defined
by her past. And within this container you do see
Victoria trying to get to Brook the way she compliments
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my work and then walks over to Sam, who immediately
ribs her for it, like nice chip at the wall,
you know, as she gets defensive.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Guys, it's just occurring to me that Brooks whole fixation
with Sam, and like Julian, who also says shitty things
to her, is that she's conditioned by her mother wound
to be drawn to people who say abrasive, shitty things
to her.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And Sam's just the youngest.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Of all of them, right, and Sam is still malleable
and able to turn her sittiness into vulnerability and honesty.
But Brooke Davis is drawn to people who are quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Frank Yeah, well, of course she is because her mother's
so manipulative, like you never feel like she would never
feel like she has a safe space. She's got to
have people around her who she knows are just telling
her this straight up truth because there's no if there's
any ambiguity, it's like, I don't trust you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, And what I think I like is because Brooke
is so defensive with Victoria and is immediately like, I
don't trust you, what are you doing? What I love
as a device is seeing the way, even though she's
clearly very imperfect, the way Victoria loves her. She knows
these things about her, but she doesn't know how to
say it to Brooks. So she says to Sam, She's like,
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I've seen this before. I know what this dynamic is.
She got her heart broken and she started this company.
Who broke her heart? Who's the boy? What did he do?
And it's like the most loving I've ever seen Victoria
be about Brook. But she can't do it to Brook's face,
so she has to do it to Sam.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, it's interesting that they didn't really touch on the
fact that Brooke, Brooke is like, she's the one who
wants to be a mom, She's the one who adopted Sam. Like,
so the fact that Victoria's coming in and now trying
to be the mom ish figure with Sam is problematic.
I mean, they had Brooke focusing a lot on Victoria
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was never a mom to me, but she was just
trying to be a mom to Sam.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is she trying to be a mom or she trying
to be a buddy? Maybe both.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean, it seems like she's trying to like re
redo some nurturing stuff that she never did with Brooke.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I think that's really common though, And we talked a
little bit about this. You know, you were working on
your other thing last week out. But you know, we're
all at that age now where like so many of
our friends have kids or like y'all have kids. The
reality is like we know parents who weren't great, who
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are getting a second chance, who are great grandparents? Yeah,
you know, and some of them, you know, don't get
let back in at all because they were so not great.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
But like.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Victoria seems to be getting a second chance right now,
and Brooke very much is like, you don't get to
come back in here, but Sam really will be a
window through which Victoria does come back to Brook. Yeah,
and I kind of love it, even though I hate
it on screen. I love watching it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I saw myself in Victoria's shoes in that scene where
Brook's like, you told me you never wanted to have me,
and She's like, you brought a gun to my apartment
and against trying to murder you.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You know, like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Like we both were being insane.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, points were made Victoria look at her with the
growth and Daphne's just so fun. What a cool thing
for Ashley to get to just like pal around with
Daphney all day downtown.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So much to learn. Also, how does Daphne get that
volume in her hair? I have to call it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh, find out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Your hair was great this episode, Joy you had Yeah,
you guys had great hair.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It was big hair, big hair, big hair for you too,
you had big hair, you did hair.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They were so how many times have we played this
beat of like the BedHead with the one teased something
about Mary Chunk.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I've done it two or three times.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
They've got poor Ashley doing it, you know, like everybody's.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Doing the BedHead thing.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, except for Brooke who always wakes up with the
happy Bob.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah. Well, oh when I had these seasons that I
had the Bob, it was just it was a one
trick pony that was it. In the last episode, they
really tried to give me that little ponytail, and all
it was was like a little nub like a dog
with a short tail and like the snooky poof. It
wasn't good, but they tried. They were like, please give
us some barote.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
You guys, I miss it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Hillary.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I need to know some things because because our pal
Nickolache is married to your pal from MTV, The Lovely Vanessa.
I how did he wind up on our show girl?
I don't know, Okay, I thought maybe you knew, or
maybe you made the intro, because genuinely, when he's the
one who walks in the door wanting to buy Haley's
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song for his album, I was like, that's how we
found Nickolache?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like what?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I was so confused. I couldn't remember why. In later episodes,
this year he goes to the wedding with me.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh my god, he does he sticks around that long, babe,
he's my date to your wedding. I don't remember a
lot of these upisdes Oh, I.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Sure do, because I was sort of I mean, you know,
I always some of the devices we're doing are so
great and unique and amazing, and then some of them
I think are shitty. And what I didn't love was
in this really poignant storyline with Mia and Chase, which
we will get to, they were like, oh yeah, Brook
slept with him, and she slept with nickolas Che and
she I was like, what are we doing? Is Brook
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so maternal that you have to remind people she like hassex?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
There are we that base you brazen husse?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
She's a hussey? So I was like, why are we
doing this? And then it hit me like, oh yeah,
he sticks around and he goes with Brooke to Peyton's wedding.
But I couldn't remember because I don't remember how long
they've been together.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I didn't know if we somehow got to Nick Lache
through you Vanessa trl No.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I've known Nixon like you know, the Newlyweds days before
even and he was always like Nick's always been such
a down cool guy. He's just a dude, you know,
and doesn't pretend to be anything other than like a
guy's guy's hanging out with the grips and stuff. I
think what our show realized in the last two seasons
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is that stunt casting worked really well on our show.
So Kevin Fetterline coming in and having that arc got
a lot of buzz in the magazines. And then James
Vanderbeek coming in and playing this part that got a
lot of attention. They're like, Okay, what other guy can
we bring in that is stunt casting? That doesn't quite fit?
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So gets us onto the soup again, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And when we first come back in season five after
that time jump, isn't he one of the knicks that
your mom names? It's like, which nick are we going
out with here? Oh my god, I forgot about that.
This is a call that's so funny, and he.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
In a way reminds the audience of that going like,
oh wow, well what is she up to now? You know,
like he wants to reconnect and it is. It's It's
an interesting tie in that it wound up working like that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I love the Brook Davis doesn't give a shit about
Julian in this episode.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Not no, she's just busy, man. I just cried in
the airport for five home minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Busy, and I appreciate that as a woman because I
feel like if a man had written this episode, there
would have been a soliloquy somewhere about.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I locked myself at the bathroom with it.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, there would have been some heartbreak. And I love
that because Karen did. It's it's Victoria's observation rather than
Brooke having to do onscreen exposition.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, yes, yes, good.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And then Nick's just a reminder that like she can
get whatever she wants, she doesn't have to go to
La La homes to her heart.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah. Well, and I loved it in a way. He
continues your joke Joy where you know, sweet Kate is like,
but she's Brooke Davis and You're like, yeah, you're Mia Catalano,
and it like goes back and forth, back and more
than then Nick says to Chase, like, yo, Brooke Davis,
and poor Kate's just like say, you know, she's so pissed.
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It's so it's just so so funny, and it allows
Stephen to come in and pick up where Haley left
off and be like, but you're the one, Like you're
the one. I'm really like, yeah, grown up in love
with and it's so cutie.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So here's something I thought was weird when Mia is
speaking of that moment when Mia is saying she's so
insecure because you know, his first time was with Brooke,
and Haley's like, yeah, well you know you're pretty great too, basically,
but she just brushes it off and she's like, I
don't want to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Haley is focused. She's focused.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But what's so weird is that considering how big of
a deal it was to Haley in high school when
she found out that.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Oh, that's right, Hailey was obsessed.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
About this, right, you're wrong. She knows what it feels like.
So the fact that when Mia is really freaking out,
she's just like, get over it. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Wait, but is it that the advice that Brooke Davis
gave to Haley in high school, like pass this is dumb.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Nobody cares well. But and the reality is like, what
the way I took it? Joy was that Haley is like,
I'm not opening this can of worms because if I do,
I'm going to have to tell you that my husband
lost his virginity to my sister. My husband slept with Brooke.
My husband slept with Peyton, my husband.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know, like she's gonna have to be like you
think you have it bad.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like literally Nathan has slept with every woman in Tree Hill.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
But why did she?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But that actually would have been great to say, yeah,
full of like and look at where we are today,
like you just got to get over it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Well, and also like that's literally what happens in small towns.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, guys living in a small town right now, Yes,
that I'm here. I met a woman who lived here
in the village. My office is in the village, and
she was like, during the pandemic, I saw every affair
in town because they would have clandestine meetings and parking
lots and just hold hands with the masks on through
the cars. And I was like, tell me everything, small
(26:19):
town people just it's dosey dough man. It's like square dancing.
You gotta get it where you can, and it's usually
within like a four mile radius.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, people are lazy.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I live out of the village, by the way, so
not participating.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Not participating. No, we've had enough of that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm so happy to be old and settled at this point.
Like it just is a delicious, delicious place to view
everybody else's bullshit from I felt for Mia in this,
but I also was like, would mea care? Because they
have her as this like edgy lippy all in so
(27:01):
many of the other episodes, and here she's so like,
I'm confused about whether or not Mia dated Kevin fetterline
because I saw online somewhere that he was her ex boyfriend,
and I was like, what, I don't remember that? Is
Mia a virgin is because we just did that storyline
with Milly.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't think we ever even talked about that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Like, Milly just did this storyline of virginity with Mouth
and Rachel and like all the chicks, the Mouth has
dated him.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, her insecurity over that, And I was like, for
all the virginity storylines we're doing in season six about
grown ass adults, yeahy didn't we do these storylines in
season one and two with children? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Strange?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I think it's dumb that Haley didn't want to sell
her song.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Why you think?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But baby, Like, maybe you just didn't want to sell
it to Nicholas Chef. If Grace Potter had walked in there,
Haley would have been like, Okay, girl, me no.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I think a girl living in a small town who's
not like I mean, I don't know, maybe I maybe.
I don't think I ever got a real grasp on
how how popular Haley was. It was very vague if
it was, like I just I don't really know. But man,
I can tell you living in Nashville now and working
with songwriters on a regular basis, Yeah, Like, I know,
(28:29):
I know what it feels like when a label comes
to you. It's happened to me a few months ago. Actually,
they come and they're like, we we love like these
five songs. We want to we want to sell them,
like can we send them out to artists? And you
have to make the decision do I want to keep
them for myself and just try and do something with
them later, or or do I sell them? And the
(28:52):
amount of people that I've talked to about this and
the answer is always sell them. Oh, sell them. I mean,
there might be one or two that you feel really
special about that you want to hold too. But you
can always write more songs. There's an unending supply of
creativity if you're a if you're a writer, you can
just keep you just keep generating.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well then or you can go record them yourself later
after they're a hit.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, absolutely didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Casey Musgraves do a lot of that. She was writing
for Miranda Lambert.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Oh yeah, you know she did, and now look at her.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, killing it well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
By the way, this song was not actually for those
of you at home. This was not written obviously by Hayley,
who is not a real person, nor was it written
by me. Was written No, This song was written by
Kara Dia Guardi and Jess Kate's wonderful songwriters, both of
them long long, long list of very famous songs you
(29:46):
can go look up.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Did Nick actually wind up releasing this song? Mm hmm,
okay wow released.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
As a single. I think that's probably one of the deals.
Like we brought him in and it was it was like,
what do you have coming up? Maybe they had been
dealing with his PR people or something, and he was like,
I got this single, we'll write it into the show
extra press.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Is he on a Warner Brothers label?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Don't know, it.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Might have been, but yeah, it felt interesting because it
sounded obviously like a well produced song like the track.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
In the episode Haley whipped that out.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
He was so fast. I was like, damn. Haley's a
good produce like.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Davis making a dress took an hour, But yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
It was funny to me watching it happen because I
was like, oh, I sort of love that. Haley's like, oh,
you want to sing my song? Prove it? Do it now?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Like no prep. I also was dying laughing. I was like, Okay,
go off, Nikolache. You just already have it perfectly memorized.
You don't need a music sheet. Fine, Like there's no
little podium stand in that recording studio for him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Nah, we don't have time for that.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Just like, prove yourself to me, sir.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
There was one moment where he gave Haley the ninety
eight degrees boy band.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Point and I screaming, how are you keeping a straight phase?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I loved that so funny.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
He's a good time.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Does Mia end up doing a duet with him? Like?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Do you end up doing a duet with him?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I'm so curious about the trajectory of this Nick Lache arc.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Does he come back too? Yes, Sophia was saying, he
comes to my wedding with her?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Well, Joy was going to get her computer charger. He's
my date to Peyton and Lucas's wedding because I'm mad
at Julian.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We made him sit there for three days in a
wedding set.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, you sure did.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
We put him in like a Men's warehouse tux.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He's a good sport I thought Men's wear out. I
think he's a fine actor.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I mean he was given sitting at that bar, really
good little zingers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Very comfortable on camera.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah yeah, why doesn't Nick Lache do more acting?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I don't know, because he's charming.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I can text Vanessa, Hi, baby, what's your husband doing
right now?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I really loved when they got together.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That was a.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
TRL match made in Heaven. Love those shoes.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
I was very cute.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But he's hosting Love is Blind.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
They host it together.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, it's just fun. But I gotta say he actually is.
He is a good actor. I enjoyed on camera. Yeah,
he has a good quality. I think I think he's
understanding himself by only doing reality. I think he could
get a get a job as an actor somewhere. Come on, Nick,
let us know what guys.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We're gonna cast Nick and something. Let's do it here
we come. Okay, what else happened in this episode? I mean,
it's just so much because I keep confusing twenty and
twenty one now and I'm still thinking about poor Jack
and sam oh oh.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Kind of off of Chase and Mia, Peyton says something
about when did Peyton kiss Chase?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It is when we first came back and we were
at a pool party and I was there to hook up.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
With Lucas, but he it was with Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And then Brooke was back and I don't know if
she was talking to Owen yet, but Chase was like, Sup,
she's back and we were just sitting there looking like losers,
and he leaned in and kissed me, and I was like,
bro I don't want to hook up with any more
of Brook's boyfriends. And he was like, no, We're just
making them jealous. And we turned around and you guys
were staring at us. That was a really long explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Thank you, because I have no recollection of that. I
don't know why that moment passed through my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
It was kind of a blip, but it, you know,
it was a big moment for me. Yeah, because Peyton
being like I've kissed him. No, it was definitely twice. Sorry,
I mean he's a great kisser. Being able to objectively
say that someone's a great kisser, I think is something
that really only happens in our industry. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
It's true.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Oh we had Amy tipt in too, from Amy well,
because Amy was friends with Erica, right, yeah, that's right.
And Flaming Amy's was like a staple in town. It's
over by the college campus and it's this.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's like a bowl, what was it?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Taco bowl?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
It's a chicken spot. It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If I ever went there. It's a cool looking little diner. Though.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's the day that Chad and I found out that
the show wasn't coming back, or that, I'm sorry, I
take it back, that the show was coming back just
without us.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Wait, the day you were shooting your Flaming Amy's flashback, Yeah,
tell us everything, Well, we'd shot everything else, right Wait
wait wait, so you were doing these flashbacks, these like
this deep nostalgia episode, not knowing that it was teeing
up the exit.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
So, oh boy, I was putting the blonde wig again
as a punishment for having red hair right, and I
noticed a conversation with like Brooke and Victoria where it
was like, are you really going to leave the company
and ruin the careers of all the people that you've
been Such a pointed conversation for you to have to
(35:19):
have because we were all in contract negotiations at this
point except me. I had never gotten a phone call
from anybody, and so they're making offers to everybody and
everyone was trying to hold the line and all they
needed were a couple people to sign on in order
for the show to come back, and Chad and I
never even got phone calls. So we were seated in
(35:41):
that diner booth and we're like, it's our last day
of filming. We did all of the present day stuff,
we did most of the flashback stuff, and all of
a sudden, our producer, Greg Prange is like, all.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Right, everybody, like pause, what you're doing? Circle up.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Just wanted to make the announcement the show is coming back.
We've been picked up for a seventh season. And Chad
looks at me and he's like, have you even gotten
an offer? I was like no, and he's like, I
haven't gotten an offer. And so around us. Everyone around
us is like hugging and high fiving. I mean, it
(36:19):
felt like balloons were dropping from the ceiling. Everybody was
so fucking pumped. And he and I just kind of
sat there and we knew it was coming. We had
you know, Peyton got hit by a car in the
last episode.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
She's on her death bed, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And he and I were the highest paid actors on
the show, and we do we were on the chopping block,
and so our bosses, Voldemort and other dipshits were in town,
and we said, can they come to set?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
They were at the.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Production office and we were at Flaming Amy's, Like, can
they come to set? It's only it's two o'clock in
the afternoon. Can they come here and just like explain
to us what's going on? Is there something? Can so
and just talk to us?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
They refused.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
They would not come speak to us, and instead they
took other actors out to dinner that night to celebrate.
And so Chad and I wrap work and I got
to take that fucking wig off, and you know, there's
a sense of betrayal because you're like, huh, okay, cool,
we didn't hold the line, and so we'll go be
(37:24):
the expendable ones, fuck it. And Chad and I decide
for the first time ever in our time together in Wilmington,
that we are gonna go out together and we're gonna
tie one on. And so Chad and I ended up
at the Whiskey, which was like a bar right on
the corner of downtown, you know, and like metal bands
(37:44):
played there, and Bibbiss, our friend, would play there all
the time until two o'clock in the morning. He and
I are just like sweating and smoking and drinking and dancing,
and Chad's a very good dancer, and every college chick
in the place is like, oh my god, Lucas and
Peyton and they're really together and this is so crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And it was insane.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And so then from two to three o'clock in the
morning we sat on on like a retaining wall downtown
and just really discussed, like we're out. We've had this
shit dangled over our heads. There's no one here who's
fighting for us.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
The friendships are fake, it's not real. And we're gonna
go and we're just gonna do some other stuff and
we'll always tell each other the truth, you know, And
so he walked me home, and I remember that also
being kind of weird. It felt like a date. It's
the one date that I went on and it was
(38:48):
very platonic. And then I called him a cab and
even the cab driver was like, I'm picking up Lucas
Scott from Peyton Sore's house.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like that's cuzy.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
But from that moment on, for the whole rest of
this season, it was it was hell. It was really bad.
It was really bad because it was it was so pointed.
You know, I'd been the person to do every upfront,
every TCA, every advertiser dinner party. I hosted the launch
(39:20):
party for the CW when it you know, when you began.
I had been the company girl and it was the
biggest you.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And there were two episodes left at this point, right,
what is this twenty one?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I think? I think we do twenty four this season?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Oh we did twenty four, okay, I think?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So yeah, yeah, And so it just it puts in
your head.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
You just look at everyone around you and you're like,
I don't know what relationships are real, and I don't
know which ones are performative, and who's used me and
who actually loves me? And so that was that was hard.
It was really hard. But Chad and I had this
magic night. We still laugh about it.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It was probably the hardest I ever partied in Wilmington.
And he didn't really drink, so I remember.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Being shocked, shocked.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
He was drinking his like vodka cranberries. We were both
just so blindsided by it, like we knew it was coming,
but until it happens.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
That is wild. Hearing that all these years later, Like
I had no idea, it's all that's wild.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
And I think, what's so surreal? And to your point,
And we talked about this a little bit last week,
that speech that like, oh, are you really going to
risk this for everyone? Yeah, the same thing we got
when we asked for help with our boss. People were like,
to ruin it. You're going to ruin it for everybody, Like, oh,
you guys can't figure out how to navigate like a
(40:49):
guy hitting on you. Oh the horror, like grow up.
All these people who have children will lose their jobs
if you ruin it. And you know, we had that
on our set. I had on my fucking neck set,
like we there was so much that was constantly told
to us and the thing that like is giving me
the visceral feeling that you're talking about is realizing like, oh,
(41:13):
these relationships aren't real, because I remember how hard all
those people, Voldemort and his little sidekick and all the
people in power on our show would say to us,
this is a family, this is a family. You have
to protect your family, you have to show up for
your family. You know, all these all these people on
(41:34):
our crew have families, and they're a part of our family.
Like they hit you so hard with like, you know,
families deal with shit, and so do we hear. And
then you realize like, oh, you want me to prioritize
y'all like my family. But you you don't even think
of me as a coworker. You think of me as
like a line item on a budget.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Oh and it's such an uneven scale. And what was
so surreal And you know, we've obviously talked about this
a lot, and I want to be careful, but like,
the thing that was so wild was, you know, in
relation particularly to you and Chad, like at least for
(42:17):
me being told like, well, you're the expendable one. We
added you last, we could get rid of you first.
So shame, you know. They put everybody in these positions
where we were like, Oh, they're going to be okay,
but I'm going to go, oh, they're gonna and I
don't know. It's it's like a really dark thing to
do to a bunch of twenty four year olds.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I'm every as this the season's winding down. I think
this is the closure that I needed, because I always
knew like that I was I was right to walk
away from this situation because it was awful and my
life is awesome because of that betrayal. I met my husband,
(43:03):
I had my kids, I got to do White Collar
with Willie Garson and that book, Like, my life is
so much better because I was betrayed here. And and
that's the thing that maybe I want anybody that listens
to this to.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Walk away with.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It's like the betrayal just opened the door for all
the awesome shit that I have now, And the people
who pushed me aside to leverage themselves had to stay
there and live in it and so.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That and live with you for doing that. Well, if they're.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Even aware that they did, they're aware, you know. But
that was kind of the fun of watching this episode today.
For me is that I didn't take notes because I
knew that it was a shit episode for me personally,
and I was like, I'm just going to enjoy it
as a viewer, and I did. Like I loved it
as a viewer. I liked who our characters are as people.
(44:02):
I think too. They're fun to watch and you know,
they play well nicely, And I get why people love it.
People who don't know the backstory super easy to love well.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Because everything you see on screen is is good and
you know it's It's such an example of that adage
like be kind because you just you never know what
battles people are fighting, Like we made a great product
despite the ways we were being manipulated and mistreated, and
(44:39):
at the end of the day, like, I don't know, man,
I'm proud of the product. Yeah, And I know we've
had to say this to the fans, like we don't
we don't want you to love the show less because
of what was happening behind the scenes. In a way,
it taught us a lot. I mean, Hill, what you
went through, Like I remember when I because it wasn't
(45:01):
when this was all happening, Like I remember when I
finally got told that you weren't coming back, and it
was like that's not possible, like I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Are they going to do the show without them?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And and the conversations we had, like that's something we
had a good time, like we talk about carrying on
the tradition of tying one on. We were like, let's
just sit here and open all these beers and talk
about it. And like, my god, when when I got
the inside baseball from you, like the pride, I mean,
(45:34):
like and we've talked about this too, like I will
always defend you to the death, like I know exactly
who you are in the way that I know you
know exactly who I am, And I think you know
if I may for me. Years later, when I was
going through what I was going through in Chicago, I
was like, oh, I can just leave.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, you can just leave.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Like I've good soldiered, I've pretzeled myself. I've done everything
I'm supposed to do. I've gone by the book, I've
gone by the personal relationships, I've done the reporting. I've
done it all. And I was like, if it's not
going to matter, I'm gonna leave. I learned that from
one of my best friends.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I'm just gonna leave y'all don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
It's like, it's really so empowering though, And I think
to your point, like when you talk about what came after,
you know where it shifted you, the friendships, it gave you,
the marriage, it led you to like your whole life.
It it was a lesson then that you learned. It
was a lesson that I courageously. I felt like I
(46:36):
had the courage to learn on my own because of
our friendship. Like rejection sometimes is such protection. Yeah, and
you know, even like holy hell, like have I learned
that in the last year, And oh, I will take
it all day. Because when you when you can finally
stand and say I'm going to trust my instincts here,
(46:58):
and then you get all all the receipts and you're like,
look at me, I made a good decision.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, the veil drops, but it changes your life in
a way, like everything shifts.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
I think when you finally say okay, if this is
not for me, siya, what comes the minute you put
your hands up is so profound And I don't know it.
It's really wild to see how how much like romantic
(47:30):
happiness and fun you guys were having on screen and
knowing what was happening off screen, But like, I don't know,
I love this place for you. I don't love the wound,
but I love what the wound gave you.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Well, that's how you could have That's how we can
still appreciate what we see on camera and the stories
and we're told is knowing that that there's no perfect product,
there's no perfect relationship, there's no perfect anything. It's always
going to be a bit and the things that the
hard things that we go through make us who we are.
Being able to walk away from something that takes you
(48:09):
a really long time to realize that it's unhealthy is
incredibly powerful, and I've had to do that in my
own in my own ways. It wasn't with the show
in particular, because I didn't deal with a lot of
the same stuff that you guys did in that dynamic.
I mean I did, I think on the peripheral, But yeah,
(48:32):
it made it does kind of knowing the sweetness of
all the good things that have come makes me happy
watching watching this episode, watching things.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
That there's nothing better than a girl that has just
hit the point of like fuck this right, Like because
then everything.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
After that is fun.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Like I had fun because I knew I was out.
I've rented my apartment in Paris that I never went
to because I met Jeffrey.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
You know, like, shit just got fun. I'm looking forward.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
To future fun in these episodes because we gave zero
fox at this point.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, these stopped trying to hold on and make anybody
else happy. You're like, you know what, I'm gonna go
do what's best for her.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Well, you know what, like a girl who's run out
of fox to give becomes dangerous, And it's really fun
when you realize, like, oh oh, I'm dangerous now, Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
When you established the reputation as being the one that'll
tell the truth, that's a powerful place to be. So
we've have a question though. We have a question from Natalie.
She says, if you had to pick another location for
Oth to be filmed or based in, where would it be?
(49:51):
I felt so spoiled in Wilmington. It still is the
prettiest place we've I've ever worked, and I've worked all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
I Yeah, gosh, I can't imagine it being filmed anywhere else,
but good god, do I wish it was filmed somewhere
with a direct flight.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Say, they still don't have one.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
We still don't have one. How do we not have
like a Wilmington to Burbank? Like what are we doing? Yeah,
why don't we have one?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
La Because there's not a runway long enough to land
a big cross country plane there. That's why, I mean,
or they can only it's only like that little New
York puddle jumper, you know. That's that's the joke in
the episode that n is that he's like I rode
in the middle.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Yeah, a seat and coach.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
There was a town when I was in high school.
My best friend in high school's family had a lake house.
It's a place called Green Pond, and it's just this
gorgeous little lake community in New Jersey, which is so
beautiful that I mean the fully it's the Garden State,
you know, I mean, the foliage is unbelievable, and it's
(51:03):
a really kids fishing on the dock, ice cream in
the summer, golf carts roaming around. Everybody's just it's a
free for all, like you just let your kids go
and come back at dinner, like like it was the
eighties and it still is like that. I went back
a couple of years ago and it's still like that,
And it's the closest thing I could think of to
what Tree Hill would have felt like. So that's gonna
(51:27):
be my vote.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
I when I saw Megan Parks movie, my old ass
at Sundance, this location, I'm trying to where, where the
hell is it? This location in Canada, Musco Lakes, you guys, Yeah,
such tree Hill vibes. It was like Cranberry bogs, but
the water was like so beautiful and everything was green
(51:52):
and kind of like they had a little small town
and falling in love on the docks and just loved it.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
No, it's so beatiful. A lot of the folks who
worked on the Good Sam crew, like a lot of
our local Toronto crew, had had grown up with like
little lake houses up in Muskoka. It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
She's trying to lure me up there, like.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Let's go, let's go visit.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Okay, Nate, what was our honorable MENTIONSH?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
I like school dances. I like school Dance.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I was happy to see bj Britt back too. I
really like him. I really like him on camera. I
wish we would have kept him for longer. Who places
hiv on.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Also, I think Nathan should have taken the European offer.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
I can't believe Haley didn't want to go to Europe, Like,
on what planet?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
It's two years, It's like, yeah, babe, let's go.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah, cool, be there, I can write it home in Europe. Fine.
She just wanted to pull Jamie out of school in
the last episode, you know.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Like they've only got one just go.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Nobody thought this through.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
No, well, but was that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Thinking about how things were going, Like, was that part
of the threat for you guys, Joy? Was it like,
oh well if you don't, if you guys don't do this,
we'll just say Nathan takes this deal. Yeah, be like bye.
Speaker 7 (53:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
I mean it was all the and it's the same
negotiating tactics that they used to do, and maybe I'm
sure plenty of people still do it of telling everybody
that everyone else is already signed on, is already negotiated.
Oh well, I know you guys are trying to do
Favorite Nations, but you know so and so already agreed
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to sign their contract, and so it's and then you know,
we're calling agents and the agents are going, no, we
haven't heard anything from them, but they told us that
you blah blah blah, and it becomes such a huge mess.
I just yeah, I remember that. That was definitely one
of the storylines that was like, oh, we're just getting
ready to tie this up if we need to, so don't.
(54:11):
I don't know. I don't remember anything past that. I
just know that it was definitely a threat of like,
this show goes on without Haley, easy, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Well yeah, yeah, I always love that we can do
this without you. You're like, Okay, have.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Fun, have fun.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Colin Bluff's but b J Britt gets my honorable mention
or the comment I love seeing the comic get worked
on too. That's another honorable mention.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
We got a wheel today.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
We have now, Oh who is most likely to laugh
in a serious moment? Hillary?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Not It is me.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
It is me.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
I have no defense against that. It's me. I'll yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
I like feelings.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Oh god, they're so hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
It's really hard parenting very emotional children because I want
to crack a joke when George is feeling big feelings.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
And I can't.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I can't, and I have to like get down on
my knees and be like, tell me everything about your feelings,
not crack. That's that's all the acting I do now,
and it is all my energy. But who on our
show is like the crack up? It's Haley on the show.
Hailey's always like didn't you have a nervous laughter thing?
Speaker 4 (55:45):
In an episode?
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Hailey is always kind of like trying to make things
better by making them worse.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yes, it's like we got married.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
It's a Haley trick.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I see that.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
I think so, yeah, I would say Haley or like
Antoine likes to make a joke in an inappropriate moment,
it does? You know? Skills is always in with a
one liner.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
How about the teacher in this episode like I need
some breakup sex or.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Something like that. When I was like, girl, well, I
was like what the hell?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
And then she was like kidding kidding.
Speaker 6 (56:22):
I was like.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
Okay, but she was putting out a vine ye not kidding.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah, I loved it, all right, what do we have
next episode?
Speaker 5 (56:31):
We got a season six episode twenty two, show me
How to Live. That sounds like it's going to be dramatic.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Sure, well, can't wait.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
Well done, everybody, Thanks for joining Hillary, you get my
honorable mention for literally running out of Fox. It's my
favorite version of you.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Let's see what happens. I don't know that I ever
got them back. Did I ever regain the I.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
Sure hope not.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
I don't think so. Guys, they broke me.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, have a great week.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Hey, thanks for listening.
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
I feel like at the top, it's worth noting that
I like barely finished this episode because I was dealing
with high school sports stuff and it felt very meta.
It felt very one Tree Hill.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
How are you dealing with high school sports stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Because my son plays on a high school team. He's
a novice. They bump up the eighth graders, and so
Gus is so us because there's bullying going on with
the upperclassmen and Gus this week was.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Like not today, not today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
He's like Nathan Scott, we only believe in positive leadership.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Now there you go.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And I just love how this show infant rds every
corner of our life still the time.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It's amazing all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well, on that note, why don't we get started? Season six,
episode twenty one, A Kiss to Build a Dream on
air date April twenty seventh, two thousand and nine. This
episode's synopsis is Peyton and Lucas take a trip in
the comet in the past, and she struggles with the
boredom of being stuck in bed as a pregnant woman
(01:26):
tip a call. We also have Brooke discovering something that
could change Sam's life, that absolutely will change Sam's life.
Nathan questions his dreams of playing in the NBA, while
Hayley receives an unexpected offer from who. Jamie and Skills
Men their broken hearts at Jamie's first school dance. I
(01:50):
loved this sequel and Lucas and Peyton remember they remember
a memorable road trip they took together after high school.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I love remembering memorable both things.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Memories.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I liked this episode. I didn't take notes because I
was just like, I'm just gonna watch it. I'm just
gonna watch it to just watch it and not make
it a homework assignment. And I liked that everyone had
real storyline that felt good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, this felt like such an eighties movie to me.
The whole episode was like a fun eighties movie, especially
with the flashbacks and with the Skills at the school
dance and all the literally what do you call it,
the tinsel hanging on the walls, all those shots with
them in this school dance environment. There was so much
about this I really enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I'm seeing Erica Dunton directed it, Oh did she?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Erica was a staple. Her dad, Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Dunton, owned the camera house in Wilmington where we got
all of our cameras from. They are like icons in
the camera industry, and Erica was a director who was
like our age and we might have been one of
her first directing credits for TV. She does all sorts
of huge now I want to say she does like
Ted Lasso, like big stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I loved some of those classic choices you're referencing, like that,
the dynamic of skills in Jamie. These two boys kind
of pushing each other to be courageous, you know, across
a generational line was so cute to me. And when
they decided to go to the dance and it smash
cut to them in slow motion walking out of the
(03:26):
apartment through the halls, it was so good. Yeah, it
was like twenty one Jump Street but better. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
She understands that dynamic of drama and comedy and sometimes
like heightened reality. And I think that's what was playing
really well, is she's just got a really good sense
of storytelling.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is It's a fine line, isn't it, between drama and comedy.
You know, it seems like people think of it as
two separate genres, but it's there's so many comedic moments
in the middle of deep, heavy emotion. I feel like
always these so much of it is so connected that
you're you're on the cusp of either one at any
(04:07):
given moment. So it's a really natural flow when a
director understands that part of humanity and is able to
convey it in an effective way.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, she's a good chick and very British, you know.
I like a British sensibility brought to Tree Hill. We
needed more of that.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It just felt so big.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I feel like we were all over town, Like, Yeah,
the locations on this were bananas because we were in Trick,
we were in close over Bros. We were at Flame
and Amy's, we were at edge of Urge, the basketball set.
I don't know if that was on stage or if
that was a you know, lany where we were at
the College Trass Coliseum for that, Yeah, I mean we
(04:47):
were all around town.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And the flashback that was large too also because it
was back in time, that was all over the fricking place. Yeah,
it was a big episode for sure. I loved that.
Though we've got all these different little pockets of storylines,
Let's start with Lucas and Peyton.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I love the dynamic. I love getting to see, you know,
Peyton have a sort of hurdle in front of her
that isn't tragedy. It's so nice to have a good
time with you, Hill, and the sort of comedic sense
of being trapped and bored is just fun. Like the
(05:28):
jump cuts with you and the Big Bear and the
paper planes and all the things like you just you
can feel that feeling of stuckness, and it's sweet that it's,
you know, wrapped in this romance. Like I love getting
to see Peyton and Lucas happy. I like seeing him
working on the car. I love the way you played
(05:49):
that beat in the beginning of like You're making me
a present?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
What is it like?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
You don't know, I don't know. It was just all
so enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Thanks well, yeah, Chad and I had hit a rhythm
at that point, you know. I mean, we knew each
other pretty well, and I think I liked to tease
him a lot in real life. I was always just like,
you love me, and he was always just like, what
was like, dude, you fucking love me? You think I'm
(06:23):
the coolest, And that was I love teasing him about that.
I think I still do. I think anytime I see Chad,
I'm just like, you have missed me. That's just kind
of the dynamic of our relationship. So teasing is a
good bassline for any Lucas Peyton stuff because it was
(06:45):
really easy to play on. I watched six six twenty
one back to back, so I just watched myself in
a car crash and then it goes to this light stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So I have whiplash right now. I'm like, but I
do like.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I learned stuff in this episode with Peyton and Lucas.
I didn't know that Peyton submitted his book to all
these publishers.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I thought it here, no, right, she.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Thuds Haley with the song in this episode, and then
we see a flashback of her thudding Lucas, and so
that one thud he did back in season one created
a domino effect.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Hey, your art mattered.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm just saying for those of you out there, thud
your friends, it's real.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
It's a great time.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know what else I really liked about the flashback
device with you two. I liked feeling like we got
to go back in time a little bit and see
you so happy because the move to La obviously we know,
as this big sort of schism in your relationship, like
it basically almost destroyed everything. And to see how excited
(07:54):
they were laying on that car on the precipice of
this shit, and that Peyton is talking about how she's
got all her dreams wrapped up in this boy and
she's going to hold him to all of his promises
and they're going to get married and have a family.
I was like, oh my god, I didn't know she
said that to him.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, the same. And I loved it how far you
guys went when everything fell apart. I love seeing where
you are now and the space that you lived in
before everything fell apart and you found your way back,
like there was there was something kind of heartening about watching.
(08:34):
I think Nathan is kind of going through the same
thing too, of thinking about old dreams and living in
a place in the future of like I'm still I'm
still working on this dream and they're just working on
it in different ways. Haley too.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
That was really powerful dialogue. It was such a simple thing,
but you know when people use language so well and
the words really mean what they mean, not like it
was the worst or it was, but like you really
like when when you guys are having that conversation when
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Nathan and Haley are talking about, you know, should he
take the offer that's real or hold on to this
fantasy that isn't yet and he says the thing about
maybe he should let go of the fantasy, and you say,
it's not a fantasy, it's your dream.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
That's really powerful language. And I thought that was such
a great choice. You know, Karen Gist wrote this episode,
and I thought that was such a wise observation to
make out loud, and it's something that you could so
easily miss if you weren't listening, and I just loved it.
(09:47):
You know, to have someone who tells you not to
give up on your dreams, to have someone who tells
you there they're going to be there with you, it's
really powerful because you can choose.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You can change your mind about a dream, but to
call it a fantasy and say it's not realistic, it'll
never happen. Yeah, I don't like it. I think you
got to You gotta keep keep going.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, especially as how old are these characters. What are
we supposed to be like twenty four? Do I need
to let my dream go? No, bitches, We're in our forties,
still pursuing things.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, I have a question, I'm a very important question.
How long did it take to make that paper airplane
catch work at that Dour in the opening?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I think that was a happy accident, was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was just supposed to throw them at him. I
think that was a happy You know, Chad loves sports.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It was a football catch with an airplane.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I guess I'm just saying art. It was so great,
so many arts and crafts in this episode, Between Brooks
doodling and Peyton's planes.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And Hailey singing songs, we were.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just Victorian art shredding paper.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I guys, I wow, Toria and San Sam.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And I feel like such a trader, but I love.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
It, by the way I should. I should feel like
a trader, And I think it's so good. And one
of my favorite things Daphne does is the fact that
she calls Sam by her full name, Samantha. I like Samantha.
She's plucky and dark.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Such a great lie.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And by the way, that made my hair raise up
because I was like, plucky and dark Peyton sores plucky
and darkenings right her.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Well, she never liked Brook either, damn it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
She's Yeah, it's interesting to watch her maneuver with Sam
because you don't know if she's doing it to stick
it to Brook. You know, is this like a Dan
Scott move? Remember when Dan had had Lucas move in
to piss Nathan off. Yeah, it's like, is this a
Dan Scott move? Or she's just genuinely curious about this
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little animal who's so abrasive with her, Like maybe if
Brooke had given it back as a teenager and sassed
off to her mom instead of trying to be pleasing,
things would have been different. You know. She when she
asks Sam, how did you weasel your way into my
daughter's life? And she's like, well, I shoplifted and then
(12:16):
I had her assaulted and then she found me in
a car.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Loved it.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, it's really well done. Their dynamic is so good
and this sort of intergenerational like buddy comedy they're doing
matches the Skills and Jamie and it's just I just
love it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It is a buddy comedy for the girls. That's so true, but.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
It's a buddy comedy done like Wednesday, like the Adams Family.
It's like, you know, dark and strange and like it's
just the two of them are so funny as themes
to the episode. And I also really loved that in
all of the things they rightfully wrote for me to
(13:01):
be enraged about, like you're manipulating a child and you
shredded these letters and how dare you? And this isn't
your place and you know all of it the wound
just like you just had Hillary of Like but that's
Peyton and Victoria never liked her. It's like, you're gonna
take this little girl who you called a street urchin
shopping and I'm your child and you never took me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I love that some of our like wounded teenage girls
are popping out. In response to seeing Victoria be kind.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Your delivery of that line hurt me. I was like,
oh god, I feel that she never took me shopping.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's a complicated dynamic. I mean, the mother daughter is
always complicated. But yeah, thinking about how competitive Victoria's been,
I mean, this is a tough sell for Victoria to
be wanting to be seen as genuine and actually investing
in Sam's life and trying to make amends when we
(13:58):
know there's been so much in her past. That's like
just being competitive with Brooke. It's in a really creepy way,
like why are you competitive with your own child? It's weird.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, with all of her one liners, right, I'm just
wondering if young Victoria wasn't more like Sam, you know
what I mean. Like, it's really easy for women as
we get older to see complicated young people and tolerate
their tomfoolery because we're like, oh man, I was like that,
(14:31):
Like I love a duff teenage chick. Every time I
meet one, I'm like, hey, kid, come over here, you
can talk to me.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think that there's a softness for.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Kids that are open about their problems, you know, and
Brooke always presented so like I fine, I fine, everything's fine.
I'm the most popular, I'm the prettiest, I'm the most
you know, like Yeah, that could have been off putting
to poor Brook's mother, Oh the hurt.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, it's interesting because when Victoria behaves in her usual
way in this episode, Sam calls her out on it.
So this, you know, this motherless child is mothering my
mother essentially, And at the same time, there's something about
Sam that's clearly making Victoria want to do over. And
(15:26):
the way they manage to see each other, you know,
Sam encourages her not to be so mean, and Victoria,
in her own way, encourages Sam not to be defined
by her past. And within this container you do see
Victoria trying to get to Brook the way she compliments
(15:48):
my work and then walks over to Sam, who immediately
ribs her for it, like nice chip at the wall,
you know, as she gets defensive.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Guys, it's just occurring to me that Brooks whole fixation
with Sam, and like Julian, who also says shitty things
to her, is that she's conditioned by her mother wound
to be drawn to people who say abrasive, shitty things
to her.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And Sam's just the youngest.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Of all of them, right, and Sam is still malleable
and able to turn her sittiness into vulnerability and honesty.
But Brooke Davis is drawn to people who are quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Frank Yeah, well, of course she is because her mother's
so manipulative, like you never feel like she would never
feel like she has a safe space. She's got to
have people around her who she knows are just telling
her this straight up truth because there's no if there's
any ambiguity, it's like, I don't trust you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, And what I think I like is because Brooke
is so defensive with Victoria and is immediately like, I
don't trust you, what are you doing? What I love
as a device is seeing the way, even though she's
clearly very imperfect, the way Victoria loves her. She knows
these things about her, but she doesn't know how to
say it to Brooks. So she says to Sam, She's like,
(17:01):
I've seen this before. I know what this dynamic is.
She got her heart broken and she started this company.
Who broke her heart? Who's the boy? What did he do?
And it's like the most loving I've ever seen Victoria
be about Brook. But she can't do it to Brook's face,
so she has to do it to Sam.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, it's interesting that they didn't really touch on the
fact that Brooke, Brooke is like, she's the one who
wants to be a mom, She's the one who adopted Sam. Like,
so the fact that Victoria's coming in and now trying
to be the mom ish figure with Sam is problematic.
I mean, they had Brooke focusing a lot on Victoria
(17:37):
was never a mom to me, but she was just
trying to be a mom to Sam.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is she trying to be a mom or she trying
to be a buddy? Maybe both.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean, it seems like she's trying to like re
redo some nurturing stuff that she never did with Brooke.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I think that's really common though, And we talked a
little bit about this. You know, you were working on
your other thing last week out. But you know, we're
all at that age now where like so many of
our friends have kids or like y'all have kids. The
reality is like we know parents who weren't great, who
(18:12):
are getting a second chance, who are great grandparents? Yeah,
you know, and some of them, you know, don't get
let back in at all because they were so not great.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
But like.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Victoria seems to be getting a second chance right now,
and Brooke very much is like, you don't get to
come back in here, but Sam really will be a
window through which Victoria does come back to Brook. Yeah,
and I kind of love it, even though I hate
it on screen. I love watching it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I saw myself in Victoria's shoes in that scene where
Brook's like, you told me you never wanted to have me,
and She's like, you brought a gun to my apartment
and against trying to murder you.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You know, like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Like we both were being insane.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, points were made Victoria look at her with the
growth and Daphne's just so fun. What a cool thing
for Ashley to get to just like pal around with
Daphney all day downtown.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So much to learn. Also, how does Daphne get that
volume in her hair? I have to call it?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Oh, find out.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Your hair was great this episode, Joy you had Yeah,
you guys had great hair.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It was big hair, big hair, big hair for you too,
you had big hair, you did hair.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
They were so how many times have we played this
beat of like the BedHead with the one teased something
about Mary Chunk.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I've done it two or three times.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
They've got poor Ashley doing it, you know, like everybody's.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Doing the BedHead thing.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, except for Brooke who always wakes up with the
happy Bob.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah. Well, oh when I had these seasons that I
had the Bob, it was just it was a one
trick pony that was it. In the last episode, they
really tried to give me that little ponytail, and all
it was was like a little nub like a dog
with a short tail and like the snooky poof. It
wasn't good, but they tried. They were like, please give
us some barote.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
You guys, I miss it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Hillary.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I need to know some things because because our pal
Nickolache is married to your pal from MTV, The Lovely Vanessa.
I how did he wind up on our show girl?
I don't know, Okay, I thought maybe you knew, or
maybe you made the intro, because genuinely, when he's the
one who walks in the door wanting to buy Haley's
(20:54):
song for his album, I was like, that's how we
found Nickolache?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like what?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I was so confused. I couldn't remember why. In later episodes,
this year he goes to the wedding with me.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh my god, he does he sticks around that long, babe,
he's my date to your wedding. I don't remember a
lot of these upisdes Oh, I.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Sure do, because I was sort of I mean, you know,
I always some of the devices we're doing are so
great and unique and amazing, and then some of them
I think are shitty. And what I didn't love was
in this really poignant storyline with Mia and Chase, which
we will get to, they were like, oh yeah, Brook
slept with him, and she slept with nickolas Che and
she I was like, what are we doing? Is Brook
(21:34):
so maternal that you have to remind people she like hassex?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
There are we that base you brazen husse?
Speaker 5 (21:41):
She's a hussey? So I was like, why are we
doing this? And then it hit me like, oh yeah,
he sticks around and he goes with Brooke to Peyton's wedding.
But I couldn't remember because I don't remember how long
they've been together.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Now.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I didn't know if we somehow got to Nick Lache
through you Vanessa trl No.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I've known Nixon like you know, the Newlyweds days before
even and he was always like Nick's always been such
a down cool guy. He's just a dude, you know,
and doesn't pretend to be anything other than like a
guy's guy's hanging out with the grips and stuff. I
think what our show realized in the last two seasons
(22:21):
is that stunt casting worked really well on our show.
So Kevin Fetterline coming in and having that arc got
a lot of buzz in the magazines. And then James
Vanderbeek coming in and playing this part that got a
lot of attention. They're like, Okay, what other guy can
we bring in that is stunt casting? That doesn't quite fit?
(22:45):
So gets us onto the soup again, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And when we first come back in season five after
that time jump, isn't he one of the knicks that
your mom names? It's like, which nick are we going
out with here? Oh my god, I forgot about that.
This is a call that's so funny, and he.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
In a way reminds the audience of that going like,
oh wow, well what is she up to now? You know,
like he wants to reconnect and it is. It's It's
an interesting tie in that it wound up working like that.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I love the Brook Davis doesn't give a shit about
Julian in this episode.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Not no, she's just busy, man. I just cried in
the airport for five home minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Busy, and I appreciate that as a woman because I
feel like if a man had written this episode, there
would have been a soliloquy somewhere about.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I locked myself at the bathroom with it.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yeah, there would have been some heartbreak. And I love
that because Karen did. It's it's Victoria's observation rather than
Brooke having to do onscreen exposition.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yes, yes, yes, good.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And then Nick's just a reminder that like she can
get whatever she wants, she doesn't have to go to
La La homes to her heart.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah. Well, and I loved it in a way. He
continues your joke Joy where you know, sweet Kate is like,
but she's Brooke Davis and You're like, yeah, you're Mia Catalano,
and it like goes back and forth, back and more
than then Nick says to Chase, like, yo, Brooke Davis,
and poor Kate's just like say, you know, she's so pissed.
(24:21):
It's so it's just so so funny, and it allows
Stephen to come in and pick up where Haley left
off and be like, but you're the one, Like you're
the one. I'm really like, yeah, grown up in love
with and it's so cutie.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
So here's something I thought was weird when Mia is
speaking of that moment when Mia is saying she's so
insecure because you know, his first time was with Brooke,
and Haley's like, yeah, well you know you're pretty great too, basically,
but she just brushes it off and she's like, I
don't want to talk about this anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Haley is focused. She's focused.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
But what's so weird is that considering how big of
a deal it was to Haley in high school when
she found out that.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Oh, that's right, Hailey was obsessed.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
About this, right, you're wrong. She knows what it feels like.
So the fact that when Mia is really freaking out,
she's just like, get over it. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Wait, but is it that the advice that Brooke Davis
gave to Haley in high school, like pass this is dumb.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Nobody cares well. But and the reality is like, what
the way I took it? Joy was that Haley is like,
I'm not opening this can of worms because if I do,
I'm going to have to tell you that my husband
lost his virginity to my sister. My husband slept with Brooke.
My husband slept with Peyton, my husband.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know, like she's gonna have to be like you
think you have it bad.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Like literally Nathan has slept with every woman in Tree Hill.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
But why did she?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But that actually would have been great to say, yeah,
full of like and look at where we are today,
like you just got to get over it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Well, and also like that's literally what happens in small towns.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, guys living in a small town right now, Yes,
that I'm here. I met a woman who lived here
in the village. My office is in the village, and
she was like, during the pandemic, I saw every affair
in town because they would have clandestine meetings and parking
lots and just hold hands with the masks on through
the cars. And I was like, tell me everything, small
(26:19):
town people just it's dosey dough man. It's like square dancing.
You gotta get it where you can, and it's usually
within like a four mile radius.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, people are lazy.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I live out of the village, by the way, so
not participating.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Not participating. No, we've had enough of that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm so happy to be old and settled at this point.
Like it just is a delicious, delicious place to view
everybody else's bullshit from I felt for Mia in this,
but I also was like, would mea care? Because they
have her as this like edgy lippy all in so
(27:01):
many of the other episodes, and here she's so like,
I'm confused about whether or not Mia dated Kevin fetterline
because I saw online somewhere that he was her ex boyfriend,
and I was like, what, I don't remember that? Is
Mia a virgin is because we just did that storyline
with Milly.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't think we ever even talked about that.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Like, Milly just did this storyline of virginity with Mouth
and Rachel and like all the chicks, the Mouth has
dated him.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, her insecurity over that, And I was like, for
all the virginity storylines we're doing in season six about
grown ass adults, yeahy didn't we do these storylines in
season one and two with children? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Strange?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I think it's dumb that Haley didn't want to sell
her song.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Why you think?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But baby, Like, maybe you just didn't want to sell
it to Nicholas Chef. If Grace Potter had walked in there,
Haley would have been like, Okay, girl, me no.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I think a girl living in a small town who's
not like I mean, I don't know, maybe I maybe.
I don't think I ever got a real grasp on
how how popular Haley was. It was very vague if
it was, like I just I don't really know. But man,
I can tell you living in Nashville now and working
with songwriters on a regular basis, Yeah, Like, I know,
(28:29):
I know what it feels like when a label comes
to you. It's happened to me a few months ago. Actually,
they come and they're like, we we love like these
five songs. We want to we want to sell them,
like can we send them out to artists? And you
have to make the decision do I want to keep
them for myself and just try and do something with
them later, or or do I sell them? And the
(28:52):
amount of people that I've talked to about this and
the answer is always sell them. Oh, sell them. I mean,
there might be one or two that you feel really
special about that you want to hold too. But you
can always write more songs. There's an unending supply of
creativity if you're a if you're a writer, you can
just keep you just keep generating.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well then or you can go record them yourself later
after they're a hit.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, absolutely didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Casey Musgraves do a lot of that. She was writing
for Miranda Lambert.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Oh yeah, you know she did, and now look at her.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, killing it well.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
By the way, this song was not actually for those
of you at home. This was not written obviously by Hayley,
who is not a real person, nor was it written
by me. Was written No, This song was written by
Kara Dia Guardi and Jess Kate's wonderful songwriters, both of
them long long, long list of very famous songs you
(29:46):
can go look up.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Did Nick actually wind up releasing this song? Mm hmm,
okay wow released.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
As a single. I think that's probably one of the deals.
Like we brought him in and it was it was like,
what do you have coming up? Maybe they had been
dealing with his PR people or something, and he was like,
I got this single, we'll write it into the show
extra press.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Is he on a Warner Brothers label?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Don't know, it.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Might have been, but yeah, it felt interesting because it
sounded obviously like a well produced song like the track.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
In the episode Haley whipped that out.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
He was so fast. I was like, damn. Haley's a
good produce like.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Davis making a dress took an hour, But yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
It was funny to me watching it happen because I
was like, oh, I sort of love that. Haley's like, oh,
you want to sing my song? Prove it? Do it now?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Like no prep. I also was dying laughing. I was like, Okay,
go off, Nikolache. You just already have it perfectly memorized.
You don't need a music sheet. Fine, Like there's no
little podium stand in that recording studio for him.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Nah, we don't have time for that.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Just like, prove yourself to me, sir.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
There was one moment where he gave Haley the ninety
eight degrees boy band.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Point and I screaming, how are you keeping a straight phase?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I loved that so funny.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
He's a good time.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Does Mia end up doing a duet with him? Like?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Do you end up doing a duet with him?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I'm so curious about the trajectory of this Nick Lache arc.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Does he come back too? Yes, Sophia was saying, he
comes to my wedding with her?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Well, Joy was going to get her computer charger. He's
my date to Peyton and Lucas's wedding because I'm mad
at Julian.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
We made him sit there for three days in a
wedding set.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, you sure did.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
We put him in like a Men's warehouse tux.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He's a good sport I thought Men's wear out. I
think he's a fine actor.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I mean he was given sitting at that bar, really
good little zingers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Very comfortable on camera.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah yeah, why doesn't Nick Lache do more acting?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I don't know, because he's charming.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I can text Vanessa, Hi, baby, what's your husband doing
right now?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I really loved when they got together.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
That was a.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
TRL match made in Heaven. Love those shoes.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
I was very cute.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But he's hosting Love is Blind.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
They host it together.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, it's just fun. But I gotta say he actually is.
He is a good actor. I enjoyed on camera. Yeah,
he has a good quality. I think I think he's
understanding himself by only doing reality. I think he could
get a get a job as an actor somewhere. Come on, Nick,
let us know what guys.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We're gonna cast Nick and something. Let's do it here
we come. Okay, what else happened in this episode? I mean,
it's just so much because I keep confusing twenty and
twenty one now and I'm still thinking about poor Jack
and sam oh oh.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Kind of off of Chase and Mia, Peyton says something
about when did Peyton kiss Chase?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
It is when we first came back and we were
at a pool party and I was there to hook up.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
With Lucas, but he it was with Lindsay.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And then Brooke was back and I don't know if
she was talking to Owen yet, but Chase was like, Sup,
she's back and we were just sitting there looking like losers,
and he leaned in and kissed me, and I was like,
bro I don't want to hook up with any more
of Brook's boyfriends. And he was like, no, We're just
making them jealous. And we turned around and you guys
were staring at us. That was a really long explanation.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Thank you, because I have no recollection of that. I
don't know why that moment passed through my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
It was kind of a blip, but it, you know,
it was a big moment for me. Yeah, because Peyton
being like I've kissed him. No, it was definitely twice. Sorry,
I mean he's a great kisser. Being able to objectively
say that someone's a great kisser, I think is something
that really only happens in our industry. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
It's true.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Oh we had Amy tipt in too, from Amy well,
because Amy was friends with Erica, right, yeah, that's right.
And Flaming Amy's was like a staple in town. It's
over by the college campus and it's this.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I don't even know what.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's like a bowl, what was it?
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Taco bowl?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
It's a chicken spot. It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If I ever went there. It's a cool looking little diner. Though.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's the day that Chad and I found out that
the show wasn't coming back, or that, I'm sorry, I
take it back, that the show was coming back just
without us.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Wait, the day you were shooting your Flaming Amy's flashback, Yeah,
tell us everything, Well, we'd shot everything else, right Wait
wait wait, so you were doing these flashbacks, these like
this deep nostalgia episode, not knowing that it was teeing
up the exit.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
So, oh boy, I was putting the blonde wig again
as a punishment for having red hair right, and I
noticed a conversation with like Brooke and Victoria where it
was like, are you really going to leave the company
and ruin the careers of all the people that you've
been Such a pointed conversation for you to have to
(35:19):
have because we were all in contract negotiations at this
point except me. I had never gotten a phone call
from anybody, and so they're making offers to everybody and
everyone was trying to hold the line and all they
needed were a couple people to sign on in order
for the show to come back, and Chad and I
never even got phone calls. So we were seated in
(35:41):
that diner booth and we're like, it's our last day
of filming. We did all of the present day stuff,
we did most of the flashback stuff, and all of
a sudden, our producer, Greg Prange is like, all.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Right, everybody, like pause, what you're doing? Circle up.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Just wanted to make the announcement the show is coming back.
We've been picked up for a seventh season. And Chad
looks at me and he's like, have you even gotten
an offer? I was like no, and he's like, I
haven't gotten an offer. And so around us. Everyone around
us is like hugging and high fiving. I mean, it
(36:19):
felt like balloons were dropping from the ceiling. Everybody was
so fucking pumped. And he and I just kind of
sat there and we knew it was coming. We had
you know, Peyton got hit by a car in the
last episode.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
She's on her death bed, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And he and I were the highest paid actors on
the show, and we do we were on the chopping block,
and so our bosses, Voldemort and other dipshits were in town,
and we said, can they come to set?
Speaker 5 (36:48):
They were at the.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Production office and we were at Flaming Amy's, Like, can
they come to set? It's only it's two o'clock in
the afternoon. Can they come here and just like explain
to us what's going on? Is there something? Can so
and just talk to us?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
They refused.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
They would not come speak to us, and instead they
took other actors out to dinner that night to celebrate.
And so Chad and I wrap work and I got
to take that fucking wig off, and you know, there's
a sense of betrayal because you're like, huh, okay, cool,
we didn't hold the line, and so we'll go be
(37:24):
the expendable ones, fuck it. And Chad and I decide
for the first time ever in our time together in Wilmington,
that we are gonna go out together and we're gonna
tie one on. And so Chad and I ended up
at the Whiskey, which was like a bar right on
the corner of downtown, you know, and like metal bands
(37:44):
played there, and Bibbiss, our friend, would play there all
the time until two o'clock in the morning. He and
I are just like sweating and smoking and drinking and dancing,
and Chad's a very good dancer, and every college chick
in the place is like, oh my god, Lucas and
Peyton and they're really together and this is so crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And it was insane.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
And so then from two to three o'clock in the
morning we sat on on like a retaining wall downtown
and just really discussed, like we're out. We've had this
shit dangled over our heads. There's no one here who's
fighting for us.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
The friendships are fake, it's not real. And we're gonna
go and we're just gonna do some other stuff and
we'll always tell each other the truth, you know, And
so he walked me home, and I remember that also
being kind of weird. It felt like a date. It's
the one date that I went on and it was
(38:48):
very platonic. And then I called him a cab and
even the cab driver was like, I'm picking up Lucas
Scott from Peyton Sore's house.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like that's cuzy.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
But from that moment on, for the whole rest of
this season, it was it was hell. It was really bad.
It was really bad because it was it was so pointed.
You know, I'd been the person to do every upfront,
every TCA, every advertiser dinner party. I hosted the launch
(39:20):
party for the CW when it you know, when you began.
I had been the company girl and it was the
biggest you.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And there were two episodes left at this point, right,
what is this twenty one?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I think? I think we do twenty four this season?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Oh we did twenty four, okay, I think?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So yeah, yeah, And so it just it puts in
your head.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
You just look at everyone around you and you're like,
I don't know what relationships are real, and I don't
know which ones are performative, and who's used me and
who actually loves me? And so that was that was hard.
It was really hard. But Chad and I had this
magic night. We still laugh about it.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It was probably the hardest I ever partied in Wilmington.
And he didn't really drink, so I remember.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Being shocked, shocked.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
He was drinking his like vodka cranberries. We were both
just so blindsided by it, like we knew it was coming,
but until it happens.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
That is wild. Hearing that all these years later, Like
I had no idea, it's all that's wild.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
And I think, what's so surreal? And to your point,
And we talked about this a little bit last week,
that speech that like, oh, are you really going to
risk this for everyone? Yeah, the same thing we got
when we asked for help with our boss. People were like,
to ruin it. You're going to ruin it for everybody, Like, oh,
you guys can't figure out how to navigate like a
(40:49):
guy hitting on you. Oh the horror, like grow up.
All these people who have children will lose their jobs
if you ruin it. And you know, we had that
on our set. I had on my fucking neck set,
like we there was so much that was constantly told
to us and the thing that like is giving me
the visceral feeling that you're talking about is realizing like, oh,
(41:13):
these relationships aren't real, because I remember how hard all
those people, Voldemort and his little sidekick and all the
people in power on our show would say to us,
this is a family, this is a family. You have
to protect your family, you have to show up for
your family. You know, all these all these people on
(41:34):
our crew have families, and they're a part of our family.
Like they hit you so hard with like, you know,
families deal with shit, and so do we hear. And
then you realize like, oh, you want me to prioritize
y'all like my family. But you you don't even think
of me as a coworker. You think of me as
like a line item on a budget.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Oh and it's such an uneven scale. And what was
so surreal And you know, we've obviously talked about this
a lot, and I want to be careful, but like,
the thing that was so wild was, you know, in
relation particularly to you and Chad, like at least for
(42:17):
me being told like, well, you're the expendable one. We
added you last, we could get rid of you first.
So shame, you know. They put everybody in these positions
where we were like, Oh, they're going to be okay,
but I'm going to go, oh, they're gonna and I
don't know. It's it's like a really dark thing to
do to a bunch of twenty four year olds.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I'm every as this the season's winding down. I think
this is the closure that I needed, because I always
knew like that I was I was right to walk
away from this situation because it was awful and my
life is awesome because of that betrayal. I met my husband,
(43:03):
I had my kids, I got to do White Collar
with Willie Garson and that book, Like, my life is
so much better because I was betrayed here. And and
that's the thing that maybe I want anybody that listens
to this to.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Walk away with.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It's like the betrayal just opened the door for all
the awesome shit that I have now, And the people
who pushed me aside to leverage themselves had to stay
there and live in it and so.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
That and live with you for doing that. Well, if they're.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Even aware that they did, they're aware, you know. But
that was kind of the fun of watching this episode today.
For me is that I didn't take notes because I
knew that it was a shit episode for me personally,
and I was like, I'm just going to enjoy it
as a viewer, and I did. Like I loved it
as a viewer. I liked who our characters are as people.
(44:02):
I think too. They're fun to watch and you know,
they play well nicely, And I get why people love it.
People who don't know the backstory super easy to love well.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
Because everything you see on screen is is good and
you know it's It's such an example of that adage
like be kind because you just you never know what
battles people are fighting, Like we made a great product
despite the ways we were being manipulated and mistreated, and
(44:39):
at the end of the day, like, I don't know, man,
I'm proud of the product. Yeah, And I know we've
had to say this to the fans, like we don't
we don't want you to love the show less because
of what was happening behind the scenes. In a way,
it taught us a lot. I mean, Hill, what you
went through, Like I remember when I because it wasn't
(45:01):
when this was all happening, Like I remember when I
finally got told that you weren't coming back, and it
was like that's not possible, like I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Are they going to do the show without them?
Speaker 5 (45:11):
And and the conversations we had, like that's something we
had a good time, like we talk about carrying on
the tradition of tying one on. We were like, let's
just sit here and open all these beers and talk
about it. And like, my god, when when I got
the inside baseball from you, like the pride, I mean,
(45:34):
like and we've talked about this too, like I will
always defend you to the death, like I know exactly
who you are in the way that I know you
know exactly who I am, And I think you know
if I may for me. Years later, when I was
going through what I was going through in Chicago, I
was like, oh, I can just leave.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, you can just leave.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
Like I've good soldiered, I've pretzeled myself. I've done everything
I'm supposed to do. I've gone by the book, I've
gone by the personal relationships, I've done the reporting. I've
done it all. And I was like, if it's not
going to matter, I'm gonna leave. I learned that from
one of my best friends.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
I'm just gonna leave y'all don't have to deal with that.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
It's like, it's really so empowering though, And I think
to your point, like when you talk about what came after,
you know where it shifted you, the friendships, it gave you,
the marriage, it led you to like your whole life.
It it was a lesson then that you learned. It
was a lesson that I courageously. I felt like I
(46:36):
had the courage to learn on my own because of
our friendship. Like rejection sometimes is such protection. Yeah, and
you know, even like holy hell, like have I learned
that in the last year, And oh, I will take
it all day. Because when you when you can finally
stand and say I'm going to trust my instincts here,
(46:58):
and then you get all all the receipts and you're like,
look at me, I made a good decision.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, the veil drops, but it changes your life in
a way, like everything shifts.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
I think when you finally say okay, if this is
not for me, siya, what comes the minute you put
your hands up is so profound And I don't know it.
It's really wild to see how how much like romantic
(47:30):
happiness and fun you guys were having on screen and
knowing what was happening off screen, But like, I don't know,
I love this place for you. I don't love the wound,
but I love what the wound gave you.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Well, that's how you could have That's how we can
still appreciate what we see on camera and the stories
and we're told is knowing that that there's no perfect product,
there's no perfect relationship, there's no perfect anything. It's always
going to be a bit and the things that the
hard things that we go through make us who we are.
Being able to walk away from something that takes you
(48:09):
a really long time to realize that it's unhealthy is
incredibly powerful, and I've had to do that in my
own in my own ways. It wasn't with the show
in particular, because I didn't deal with a lot of
the same stuff that you guys did in that dynamic.
I mean I did, I think on the peripheral, But yeah,
(48:32):
it made it does kind of knowing the sweetness of
all the good things that have come makes me happy
watching watching this episode, watching things.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
That there's nothing better than a girl that has just
hit the point of like fuck this right, Like because
then everything.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
After that is fun.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Like I had fun because I knew I was out.
I've rented my apartment in Paris that I never went
to because I met Jeffrey.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
You know, like, shit just got fun. I'm looking forward.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
To future fun in these episodes because we gave zero
fox at this point.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, these stopped trying to hold on and make anybody
else happy. You're like, you know what, I'm gonna go
do what's best for her.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Well, you know what, like a girl who's run out
of fox to give becomes dangerous, And it's really fun
when you realize, like, oh oh, I'm dangerous now, Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
When you established the reputation as being the one that'll
tell the truth, that's a powerful place to be. So
we've have a question though. We have a question from Natalie.
She says, if you had to pick another location for
Oth to be filmed or based in, where would it be?
(49:51):
I felt so spoiled in Wilmington. It still is the
prettiest place we've I've ever worked, and I've worked all
over the place.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
I Yeah, gosh, I can't imagine it being filmed anywhere else,
but good god, do I wish it was filmed somewhere
with a direct flight.
Speaker 4 (50:10):
Say, they still don't have one.
Speaker 5 (50:12):
We still don't have one. How do we not have
like a Wilmington to Burbank? Like what are we doing? Yeah,
why don't we have one?
Speaker 3 (50:20):
La Because there's not a runway long enough to land
a big cross country plane there. That's why, I mean,
or they can only it's only like that little New
York puddle jumper, you know. That's that's the joke in
the episode that n is that he's like I rode
in the middle.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Yeah, a seat and coach.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
There was a town when I was in high school.
My best friend in high school's family had a lake house.
It's a place called Green Pond, and it's just this
gorgeous little lake community in New Jersey, which is so
beautiful that I mean the fully it's the Garden State,
you know, I mean, the foliage is unbelievable, and it's
(51:03):
a really kids fishing on the dock, ice cream in
the summer, golf carts roaming around. Everybody's just it's a
free for all, like you just let your kids go
and come back at dinner, like like it was the
eighties and it still is like that. I went back
a couple of years ago and it's still like that,
And it's the closest thing I could think of to
what Tree Hill would have felt like. So that's gonna
(51:27):
be my vote.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
I when I saw Megan Parks movie, my old ass
at Sundance, this location, I'm trying to where, where the
hell is it? This location in Canada, Musco Lakes, you guys, Yeah,
such tree Hill vibes. It was like Cranberry bogs, but
the water was like so beautiful and everything was green
(51:52):
and kind of like they had a little small town
and falling in love on the docks and just loved it.
Speaker 5 (51:59):
No, it's so beatiful. A lot of the folks who
worked on the Good Sam crew, like a lot of
our local Toronto crew, had had grown up with like
little lake houses up in Muskoka. It's so gorgeous.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
She's trying to lure me up there, like.
Speaker 5 (52:12):
Let's go, let's go visit.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Okay, Nate, what was our honorable MENTIONSH?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
I like school dances. I like school Dance.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I was happy to see bj Britt back too. I
really like him. I really like him on camera. I
wish we would have kept him for longer. Who places
hiv on.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Also, I think Nathan should have taken the European offer.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
I can't believe Haley didn't want to go to Europe, Like,
on what planet?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
It's two years, It's like, yeah, babe, let's go.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah, cool, be there, I can write it home in Europe. Fine.
She just wanted to pull Jamie out of school in
the last episode, you know.
Speaker 4 (53:06):
Like they've only got one just go.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Nobody thought this through.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
No, well, but was that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Thinking about how things were going, Like, was that part
of the threat for you guys, Joy? Was it like,
oh well if you don't, if you guys don't do this,
we'll just say Nathan takes this deal. Yeah, be like bye.
Speaker 7 (53:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
I mean it was all the and it's the same
negotiating tactics that they used to do, and maybe I'm
sure plenty of people still do it of telling everybody
that everyone else is already signed on, is already negotiated.
Oh well, I know you guys are trying to do
Favorite Nations, but you know so and so already agreed
(53:48):
to sign their contract, and so it's and then you know,
we're calling agents and the agents are going, no, we
haven't heard anything from them, but they told us that
you blah blah blah, and it becomes such a huge mess.
I just yeah, I remember that. That was definitely one
of the storylines that was like, oh, we're just getting
ready to tie this up if we need to, so don't.
(54:11):
I don't know. I don't remember anything past that. I
just know that it was definitely a threat of like,
this show goes on without Haley, easy, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (54:22):
Well yeah, yeah, I always love that we can do
this without you. You're like, Okay, have.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Fun, have fun.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Colin Bluff's but b J Britt gets my honorable mention
or the comment I love seeing the comic get worked
on too. That's another honorable mention.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
We got a wheel today.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
We have now, Oh who is most likely to laugh
in a serious moment? Hillary?
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Not It is me.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
It is me.
Speaker 4 (55:04):
I have no defense against that. It's me. I'll yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
I like feelings.
Speaker 4 (55:12):
Oh god, they're so hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
It's really hard parenting very emotional children because I want
to crack a joke when George is feeling big feelings.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
And I can't.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
I can't, and I have to like get down on
my knees and be like, tell me everything about your feelings,
not crack. That's that's all the acting I do now,
and it is all my energy. But who on our
show is like the crack up? It's Haley on the show.
Hailey's always like didn't you have a nervous laughter thing?
Speaker 4 (55:45):
In an episode?
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Hailey is always kind of like trying to make things
better by making them worse.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yes, it's like we got married.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
It's a Haley trick.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I see that.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
I think so, yeah, I would say Haley or like
Antoine likes to make a joke in an inappropriate moment,
it does? You know? Skills is always in with a
one liner.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
How about the teacher in this episode like I need
some breakup sex or.
Speaker 4 (56:14):
Something like that. When I was like, girl, well, I
was like what the hell?
Speaker 5 (56:21):
And then she was like kidding kidding.
Speaker 6 (56:22):
I was like.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
Okay, but she was putting out a vine ye not kidding.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Yeah, I loved it, all right, what do we have
next episode?
Speaker 5 (56:31):
We got a season six episode twenty two, show me
How to Live. That sounds like it's going to be dramatic.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
Sure, well, can't wait.
Speaker 5 (56:41):
Well done, everybody, Thanks for joining Hillary, you get my
honorable mention for literally running out of Fox. It's my
favorite version of you.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Let's see what happens. I don't know that I ever
got them back. Did I ever regain the I.
Speaker 5 (56:55):
Sure hope not.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
I don't think so. Guys, they broke me.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah, have a great week.
Speaker 5 (57:02):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Hey, thanks for listening.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
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