Torrey DeVitto

New year, new Nanny. At least new in the sense of what we’re finding out about her. Torrey chats with the girls about her first impression of finding out she’d be playing a bad girl, she recalls the feelings of filming the infamous cornfields scene and spills details on her cockroach co-stars.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
First of all, you don't know me. We all about
that high school drama.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Girl drama girl, all about them.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
High school queens. We'll take you for a ride, and
our comic girl shared for the right teams drama queens
up girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could sit
with us.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, John mc
Queens Drama Queens.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello friends, Happy New Year, and we're so excited to
welcome a member of our family to the show this week.
She's been with us so much this year. She's such
an amazing friend and supporter, but we weren't able to
talk to her during the SAG strike about her character
at all. So now we finally get to ask her

(00:48):
all of the questions. Friends, Tory DeVito's here today. Guys,
you are great. How are you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
We're so happy to have you on because we couldn't
talk about Nanny Carey during the strike, and so you know,
we were able to get to get you so that
the fans could enjoy the pleasure of your company, but
we weren't allowed to talk about the one thing that
everybody's dying to know about. I'm so sorry that we're
able to talk now.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's so funny. It doesn't matter what I'm doing, Like
everybody always wants to talk about her, you know, I
like a convention for another show, it's like about her.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
He had so much success on other shows too, I
mean Pretty Little Liars, Vampire Diaries, Army Wives, and then
obviously recently Chicago Med. It's like, you work all the time,
and it's so funny that Nanny Carey is the thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, that is the thing. That's the thing. It actually
just happened like well yesterday again, but in front of
my dad, and he was like, oh did they say one?
I was like, Dad all the time. He was like
really still and I was like all the time, Yeah,
what people want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I wonder if it's because people rewatch our show so much,
or or do you think it's because she is in
that sort of canon of these iconic characters. Like we
were talking watching the episode out in the Cornfield with
y'all last you know, in our in our last rewatch
recording that it's so like, it's so Kathy Bates, it's

(02:20):
so they gave you all of this stuff to do.
That really does feel reminiscent of these iconic sort of
horror movies and psychological thrillers, and like, I don't know,
I almost am realizing as I'm asking you the question,
it would probably be great for us at our next
convention to ask the fans, like, what is it that

(02:41):
makes it so stand out totally?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Did you know that? That's what? So like, because I
thought I was done after the first like season five,
you know, I thought I had done what I did,
and he called me it was like, how would you
feel about.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Coming back and doing a misery yes storyline?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And I was like, yeah, obviously that sounds amazing. So yeah,
that was so that was so fun.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Did you know when you came into audition for Carrie
the Nanny that it was going to be this psychotic
or was it just like just a guess?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
But it was just like a little recurring and it
was and it literally said on the thing, I think
like girl next Door, New Nanny and that was it,
Like it said nothing else, and I don't even think
and I think they didn't even know that it would
go all the way there. So it was such a

(03:39):
surprise and I was so grateful because at that point,
you know, in life and in my career.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
I was I think I was like twenty four when
I got that, and.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It was like I've always you know, you played the
girlfriend or like the wife or like you know what
I mean. And I was like, Oh, these rules are
so boring, and you always felt like you got to
do the fun stuff like in class, not really on set,
and so when I got to come back and do that,
I was like, oh, and I remember I took it
so seriously, like when I had to like use the
syringe and stuff, like I was in my hotel room

(04:11):
like practicing all the syringe moves and like all these things.
Like I was like, and it's so funny watching the
episode back. I watched it this morning, actually the last episode,
because I actually made that mistake I did. I did
a pretty little liar's podcast and I didn't know I
was supposed to watch the episode and I'd never watched
any of the episodes. No, And you know when you

(04:32):
kind of panic and you realize you should just tell them,
like you guys, I messed up. I should have watched it.
I didn't. I didn't do my homework. But then you
panic and you just decide I'm going to fake it
till I make it, and then at the end of
it you go there, No, I sounded like an idiot
the whole time. I lied about everything, like I didn't
know what I was talking like everything I'd be like

(04:54):
and then they did a trivia game with me about No.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Even know what they were talking out.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
And I'm like, still to this day, I'm like, why
didn't I just tell them?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Why didn't I just honestly know what.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
This is my fault. But anyway, so I watched the
episode this morning, and there were so many moments though,
because I was like, looking at like, you know, we
look all like we're babies. It's so babies, semies, and
I was like, and so many things I did I know.
I was like taking it so seriously, but watching it now,
I was like, oh god, oh.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
No, really no, it was great.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What yes, but you know, you know, and like, you
know the state of mind you were in and you
were like, yes, I'm going to go in there do this,
and then they're watching back and you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
What always makes me laugh about that is sometimes when
you get so obsessed with the preparation and making sure
you're really in the headspace. Like half the shit you
spend months doing or are hours doing, depending on how
much time you have to prep never even winds up
in the edit and you're like.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Oh, man, yeah, you get new sides that morning.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, and you're like, oh, I don't believe anymore.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
You're like, I'm got to pay for all those lessons.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
But Tori, no, I have to tell you. When we
were watching it, we were talking about what an unbelievable
job you did, and the and the commitment required and
and how unhinged Carrie got. Thank god, we finally figured
out why they gave you the motivation. We learned about

(06:34):
you know, her son and all these things. But I
have to tell you because look, I think we're all
the same. We watch things back that we've done and
we go like, oh my god, what was I doing?
So like I A, I feel you deeply, but be
I feel like I just have to repeat. When we
were talking about the episode, I said to Joy, I
was like, there's this thing that you do. You have

(06:56):
this laugh that is so uncomfortable when you sort of
like come to and you're having that final exchange with Paul,
and I didn't remember it at the time because obviously,
when you know, we were making our show, we barely
got to watch it Allah You on Pretty Little Liars,
But I was like, oh my god, that that sound
and that choice and that specificity. It gave me chills

(07:19):
and like my brain immediately went to Anthony Hopkins in
Silence of the Lambs, like doing that sound, and I
was like, oh my god, Tori has a Silence of
the Lambs moment on our show, like it really, like
it feels so iconic and cool, like you were so
so fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Thank You. It was so fun to do. I mean
the whole from start to finish. It was just like
it's still like one of my favorite things, especially like
just getting to do because you don't get to do that.
And I love that they actually showed the reason why,
because she had a son who died, like you, we
needed that TV like that. They don't really there's so

(08:02):
many holes and so I was so happy that they
did that. But rewatching the death thing. I actually forgot
that she died three times me too.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
She just could not be killed.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
She could not I forgot she had that end moment
with Dan and I was like, oh my god. But
it was so funny because I remembered I was like
cleaning my house after the episode had already aired, and
I had the TV on in the background, and I remember,
you remember the soup with Joel McHale. Yeah, yeah, I

(08:36):
remember hearing in the background, you know, on One Tree
Hill there's a new nanny in town and she just
won't die. And they literally took all three in my
bed edited them together, and he was like, you know,
and it's you're so flattered to even be in a
position to be made fun of in that way. Be like, oh,

(08:56):
oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
They loved to make fun of our show.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
On that show they did. I remember that. Do you
remember that day?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
How could you not? It's so ridiculous. So that day
in the cornfields was please recount your experience of that,
because I have my own version of it, but we
talked about it already. Everybody's already heard it. Tell me.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was insane. It was so it was so hot,
from what.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I remember, so hot.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And we were just running around these cornfields chasing.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
It.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Just the whole thing seemed so wild. It was just
like me holding the syringe. I remember just and like
chasing poor Jamie too, like, oh.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
My gosh, poor kid, poor kid.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Like how are you not traumatized from this? But I
remember it was my first time wearing squibs too, which
was really Yeah. I was really like, I get like
a little funny about things. So I was like, what
if they put it on backwards and it's going to
explode and I'm gonna really die. But I did it.
I'm still here.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Give everybody a SoundBite. Remind everybody what squibs are for
people who don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
So, squib is what they put on you, so when
somebody shoots you, it pops at the same time, so
it looks like you're actually getting shot.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, and it pops like out from your little sticker
full of blood basically that they they put on your
skin and then it pops in the same Yeah, you
have a tube that runs down your back or something.
Somebody squeezes it and it pops at the same time
unless you are in control of the tube. Who was
doing it with somebody else?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Or were you somebody else? Okay, yeah, I don't think
I could have done that. At the same time. I
was like, but it was so much fun, Like I
just remember we were just running around all day in
this point.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Oh you've had fun. Man, it was so hot and buggy,
remember all the bugs and oh yeah, every time you
ran past all that corn it was the ros are
really tight. It did actually start to feel kind of
claustrophobic at some point because you can't get up high
enough to see over and realize where you are. And
at some point I do remember kind of doing a
three sixty turnaround and being like, I'm very uncomfortable with

(11:05):
the fact that I do not know how to get
out of this amaze. I really don't like this.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Did you guys ever get lost in there that day
or no?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
No, because I had the dollies and they had like
you just follow a cable at the end of the day,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
In my head, I'm like, they couldn't have tied something
to you so you could follow the rope back like
a diver, because you'd see it so funny.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Communication was tough, like how I don't remember how Asher was.
Was he on like a bullhorn or was he at
the camera that I.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Don't remember, Like I don't remember him in there with us.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I feel like he had a bullhorn.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah, probably, but yeah, it was so buggy.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
It was so buggy. And again I remember getting the
blood on me too, because it's so sticky and like
got top of already being sweaty and sticky and funny
like that corn styrup. Fake blood didn't do any favors either.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
And of course our base can where your shower would be,
is probably like a twenty minute ride away, so you're
walking to the van covered in molasses.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
I don't think people realize how sticky that thing what is.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's so worse. It's the worst, especially when it gets
in your hair and then you go like this and
your hair just sticks and pulls and you hear it
rip and you're like, oh.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
No, Tori, do die a lot in your shows? No,
that was the only minute died in Okay, Yeah, all right,
Well it's never mind.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You think that. I think that people assume that because
these are like it takes so long to film something,
and we film it for so long that we just
like have this amazing recollection of the things we've done,
and it's incredible to me how I'll even watch a
scene and be like, what's that I did that?

Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Like or photo shoots or something, and you're like, that's me.
When did I do that?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
It's like so weird how it like starts to slip
your mind.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
What is your interaction with fans, like when they do
come up to you, because you know, Paul has told
us that they are still actually mad at him, Like
people will come up really genuinely upset with him. What's
your interaction like?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So when the show was first airing, it was not
great because people were so because they loved.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
You and James together so much.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh my god. I remember like this one time I
was in a gym and I was I took my
shirt off, I was changing and I was in my
sports bra and this girl.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Came running up to me tears tears.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
And she was like you're ruining and a great thing
and she just and everybody in the locker room stared
at me, and I was like what. And people would
come up to me on the street like that all
the time, like like and then I was getting my
emails were getting hacked into, my parents' emails into and
people were like not happy. It's like this weird. They

(14:06):
cannot differentiate between real life and not real life. But
I think as I've as it's gotten for some reason,
it's not really the same reaction anymore, which thank god,
And I don't really know why, because, like you said, Sophia,
like I think that so many people are watching it,
you know, over and over again, Like the younger generation
is like it's like a new thing for them. But

(14:29):
I'm not getting as harsh of a reaction. It's more
just like you're crazy. But even with friends, like I
remember when it was airing, like if I started dating
someone and they wanted to introduce me to our friend,
if anybody in their friend group had watched it, they
were like, we really didn't know. We thought you would
be like we were really afraid to meet you, Like
we didn't know what you'd be like. And I was like,

(14:50):
what it is everybody?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I also wonder if there's something too, you know, people
are obviously able to watch it and binge it and
get to the culmination of the story quicker, and you know,
we do win, Nathan and Haley do stay together. But
I also wonder if there's something to the fact that

(15:16):
now there is social media whereas there wasn't before, and
like people know us and they also know we're all friends,
you know, Like that's so it isn't like, you know,
Nanny Carey versus Haley. It's like, oh, Tory and Joy
and Sofa and Hilary are all friends.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Like yeah, exactly, so easy to look you up and
go see yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know, and like people come to conventions with us
and they get to hang out with us, and they
get to we all get to do this with our audience,
and like, you know, even you and I getting to
go and work together for an overlap of years in Chicago,
like we you know, we have we have a bigger
life than just these characters who when that show was
on there was no Instagram, there was no way to know.

(16:04):
You just sort of experienced characters and then that was it.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It is so true. I never thought of that. And
also I think getting to like binge it like that
you don't sit with it for a.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, it's so hard to get into it. Yeah, I
really connect. I mean I was. I started watching Game
of Thrones again with somebody who's had never seen it,
and it's like, okay, so we watched two episodes or
like maybe maybe three a week, and it just does
it's not the same thing. You're not sitting with it,
you're not living with it. You're not waiting in anticipation
for a week to find out what the hell is

(16:41):
going to happen. Yeah, you just answer your instant gratification
needs immediately. And it's bad for all of us. Yeah,
bad for everyone, everyone except you because now the fans
are nice too, because thank you, there's not.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Real for all the villains out there, we've really thrived
in this environment.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, was it hard at all, like being in the
midst of that, because as an actor, you know, you
were saying earlier, it's amazing to get a challenge like
this and a storyline like this, and what an episode
this is. You know, this arc is so cool when
you get Dan out there and god, even that scene,

(17:20):
like when it first happens and he opens the door
to the hospital and we realized we're in the farmhouse.
It's so eerie and you got to you know, it's
like having such a big meal. But was it also
a little strange knowing that this was going to be
the death episode? Was it bitter sweet? Or was it
just like you wanted to lean all the way into
it and go like level ten?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It was kind of both. I mean, it was definitely
bitter sweet because I had so I enjoyed doing this
portion of it so much, Like I really felt like
I was just able to do so many things, so
I didn't want that to end. Like that was really,
you know, sad to me, but I also loved that
it wasn't just like, you know, a shot and she's dead.

(18:06):
I was like, you know what I mean, there was
so much more. And then once you really think she said,
I know, they caught away to like some I think
it was a Mikayla and Chad scene that was like
really like you know what I mean, like yap, so
you definitely think, okay, that's done and then it goes
back and I loved. Yeah, I was really I was

(18:27):
definitely sad that it was over. I was like so
sad to say about her, but at the same time,
like I was like, this is cool.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
This is like a really cool way to go out.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
And did you have to did you do research on
movies like this, like Misery, the Kathy Bates film and
other things? Was there stuff you wanted to put in
to the character. Because that final moment with you and
Dan is so crazy and the laughing and that you
can't kill me like it really is. It's pete horror film. Yeah,

(19:02):
did you like watch a bunch of horror films or
did you not want to think about what other people
were doing?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
So I did watch Misery because I actually hadn't seen it,
and so when he said we want to do a
Misery storyline, I was like, Okay, well I'm going to
check this out. And that got me so excited. But
then otherwise, like I feel like, especially like when I
was younger, I thrived Like I loved doing horror movies.
I loved doing that sort of thing. So I just

(19:29):
felt like I thrived in that environment. I was like,
oh yeah, So my research more was like the sympathy
part for her, like building the sun, like building why
she is the way she is, so that then like
I could let it all go and be crazy, but
it was like grounded in why she was doing it

(19:52):
versus like I'm just gonna go wild, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Ye give you that information ahead of time before you
started with all the kidnapping stuff even a while ago,
or were you just did you have to make something
up for yourself?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You know what? I actually don't remember. I really don't remember,
but you know, and it sounds so pretentious, but like
as actors they always say, like when somebody just asked
me the other day, like how when you were playing
such a horrible character, It's like, even if you can't
find reasons to like that, and you have to find

(20:24):
reasons why they're doing it and like sympathize with that, right, Yeah,
So yeah, I don't know if it was them that
told me early on or if I build something, but yeah,
like finding that grounding of like why she's doing this
was like the biggest part of the research for me.
And then also like all, like I said, all the

(20:44):
little prop things, which was so silly, but I was like,
for some reason, I was so nervous to use all
of them. I was like, oh, can I go home
with this? Can I go with that?

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Even like I think I had to hold the revolver.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I didn't even have to shoot it, and I went
to a shooting range in Wilmington because I was so
I was like, she's gonna look silly.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
I gotta hold it, right, Like I.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Was so obsessed with everything, And it's funny because I
kind of miss that a little bit. I feel like
as I've gotten older, like obviously like research and all
that stuff, but that feeling of like that anxiety where
you can't sleep, you can't eat, You're just like this
has to be perfect, Like I don't I don't know

(21:23):
that I've had that and in a little bit, you
know what I mean. It's like when you're young and
you're like, I worked for free. It's so important. This
is so important. Put me out in the cold at
three in the morning, I don't care where tak top
Like yeah, and now I'm like, where's.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, is there a Wormington?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
What time will we be finished?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
That's right? Well, speaking of Wilmington, tell us about your
experience in Wilming team because you came in in uh
was it the summer. I'm trying to remember the time
in the season that you came in and like, yeah,
what was going on in your life when you got
this job? Just give us away of the land.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
So I definitely remember being hot the whole time I
was there. I loved Wilmington. I mean it is so charming.
It was the first time I had ever had kill One's.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Ice cream and I remember just like the hotel I
was saying out was so close to it, and I
was like, this is amazing. Like I was like on
the water every night, having ice cream every night. And
it was interesting because I moved. I moved to LA
when I was eighteen, and so being in Wilmington when
I was like twenty four was the first time I
was back for a long period of time. I had

(22:33):
spent my formative years in high school. I mean in
high school. I spent my formative years in high school.
I spent my formative years in Florida, and so Florida's
weather is very similar to Wilmington. Yes, and my parents
split when I was nineteen and it was really really
difficult for me and my whole family dynamic changed.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
And I remember I was in a rental car in
Wilmington and it has that those huge rain drops, like
that downpour that LA does not get.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You only get that like in the South.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Yeah, And I had an experience that since high school.
And I remember I pulled over and just started sobbing
because it felt like home but like letting go and.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
All these things. And I had that moving in Wilmington.
So whenever I think of Wilmington now still, I just
I always think of that moment, like it did so
much to heal a lot that I was going through,
which was really beautiful. And then I also like I
loved being there. I didn't want to leave. I found
this amazing Kwanti teacher that I would go see for
like private. She was so incredible. Like I just started

(23:34):
being a vegetarian and I was like eating just potatoes
every day because back then, like in this it was
very difficult.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Matt Damon was farming potatoes on Mars and you were like,
that is a good idea.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
That idea, so it was really special. It was really
And then I also feel really lucky because I know,
me and Mikayla McManus came on the show at the same.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Time, and I just like fell in love with her.
She's so incredible and I loved that we.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Were both like newbies at the same time, so I
feel like we got to like kind of lean on
each other in that way. And I was like, oh,
what a better person to kind of have that experience
with because she was so lovely and wonderful.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah. Yeah, I remember having you guys over to my apartment.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, pasta, you made us dinner.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
I made dinner, that's right, you guys were Yeah, the
New Girls. That was fun. That was a really fun night.
It was nice to connect with you both. I remember
just how smart you both were, but I loved I
felt like we had a really good table conversation and
it was so nice to just, I don't know, be

(24:57):
in a space. I love that age when and you
really have nothing but time and you're just happy to
sit and get to know anybody and spend the time,
and you can like I long for those days. I
long for being able to cut enough out of my
schedule so that I can just have anybody over for dinner,

(25:17):
just sit and get to know you. I'm like, our
curiosity starts to get overshadowed by all the things that
we have to just accomplish, and we don't have as
much time to sit in that curiosity and miss those days.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's interesting you talk about it that way. I feel
the same, Like it feels like we have so much
to manage and do, and days can go by where
you're just sort of taking off the to do list.
And when I think about that time and you guys
both coming out, and what a just lovely injection of

(25:52):
spirit you both were to all of us because we've
been there for so long. I remember, like I just
I just think about the nights of you know, going
to circa or going to the brasserie and like getting
a mac and cheese. I'm and in this moment, I'm like,
isn't that so crazy? Because we were working, you know,
sixteen hours a day and still being like I want

(26:12):
to go to dinner. Yeah, yeah, And it does sort
of feel like now we're in this time. Maybe it's
because we have smartphones and we're supposed to be on
an email like every second of the day, but we're
we're just like slammed with work. And I miss that too.
I missed like the smell of Wilmington and all of
us wrapping and walking out to base camp and being like.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Should we go?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Are we gonna go to the beach or are we
gonna go downtown? Like where are we gonna get a table?
And gap? That was so nice?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Is that youth or is that the product of the
age that we're in, Like do you think the older
generation twenty years ago did have time to slow down
or worth? Is it always you just the older you get,
the busier you get, and you just start steamrolling snowball
into occupied.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I feel it's a combo.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I feel like it's a combo. I do think that
as you get older, like things like like, but I
also think like this age with cell phones and like
like you just said, there's no cut off for your emails,
there's no cut off for phone calls, especially now. I mean, Joy,
you're on the East coast right, It's like, so we're
three hours ahead of la or and uh and so

(27:26):
you know, if somebody's calling me at six pm there,
it's nine pm here, Like when do I when do
you at all? You know, and it's like when do
we draw that line? And I find that to be
so hard with cell phones.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, well for me too, it's the blessing and the
curse of being connected. You know, we're more connected than
we've ever been, but we're also more stressed out than
we've ever been. And you know, I think it's also
it's so incredible that so many people can have creative
careers now, and it means that everyone needs a job

(27:58):
and a side hustle. You know, we all have day
jobs and then we do this job and then we
do other jobs and we do It's like there's so
much available, but it also means that every moment of
your time is taken. Yeah, and you know are we
are we more connected than we ever have been.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Like I know the ease of functional like I guess
literal communication is easier.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And that's what I mean A little bit is like
what Tory was saying about if somebody from your office
on the West Coast calls you at six, but it's
nine and you're at dinner with your parents but you're
trying to close I don't know a deal for a film,
like do you pick up the phone or not? How
do you set boundaries? We are expected to be connected
all the time. We do have more access to information,

(28:48):
but it also does create a sort of vacuum of
I think intimacy because in a way, you know, like today,
for whatever reason, I slept with my sliding door open
and the birds woke me up up at five, which
was so lovely. But yeah, like I was up at
five am and I was like, well, what am I
going to do with myself? It's five o'clock in the morning,
so it's pittering around the house and make coffee. And

(29:10):
then I started checking on everyone on Instagram because I
was like, what's everybody doing, and I knew we were
going to talk today, and I was like, is there
anything that's happened in Tory's life in the last couple
of weeks that I don't know about? So I'm scrolling
and then I was like, Oh, I just love that
pumpkin photo. And I'm like looking at this picture of
you with a pumpkin, and I'm and I'm like, she's
just so happy.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
But she has no idea that you're well exactly in
the So it's this.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Really interesting thing right where we can kind of say, oh,
I miss this person, Oh I want to check on someone,
but are we really connecting? So again, I think it's
I think what happens is as these things expand, as
these avenues of connection and opportunity grow, in a way,

(29:53):
as they get wider, they get a little shallower because
you really can only hold so much. So you can
hold columns that are narrow and deep, or you can
hold nine columns that are shallower and wider across. And
I don't know necessarily what's better, but I do think
it is the journey of our generation, certainly to try

(30:16):
to figure out how to bridge this divide.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, because we're the only ones that remember what it
was like before and really fully embraced the current, even like, Yeah,
I was singing the other day about the fact that,
in you know, nineteen ninety five, we were all listening
to exactly the same songs in the radio and watching
exactly the same shows on TV because that's all anybody

(30:39):
had access to. Like every single person in the United
States was listening to Mariah Carey sing Hero on the
radio do you know what I mean? Or Nirvana, I
don't know when I should have a song list up
in front of me right.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Now, Nirvana, Tupac, Maria, all these these like change makers
of culture, and we all knew them.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
We all were doing it at the exact same time,
like every yeah, like every kid was sinking Gangs's Paradise
with every Middle America because dangerous Minds came out and
we all were watching everything the same. And so even
though we weren't maybe connected talking about it all like
we knew that that's we were sharing this cultural sameness.

(31:24):
And now it's all so so so different for better
in a lot of ways. It's so nice to have
the variety and to be able to have access to
things that you wouldn't normally see in your current bubble.
But it is kind of weird to be like, oh,
there's just so many options now that we're not I think,
actually that's one of the things to type back to
our show, because our show was one of the last

(31:44):
of that breed where everybody everybody was watching it. Yeah,
it was right before all that all the options came out.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I mean it's wild to watch, you know, even to
be watching these episodes and all of our characters are
on flip phones. Like you couldn't text Novella's back and
forth between your friends. You had to get on the
phone because to type the word the took nineteen key
tags like on TEENNI. It was just different. And now

(32:13):
you know people like I have a friend who edited
a book they wrote on an iPhone, just like, oh yeah,
every time I was on a flight, I was editing
my chapters and you know is miming this the thumb
taps and I'm going, whoa we are from our grandparents
or our parents rather to our children. Like the shift

(32:34):
is so big, It's just so big.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
We saw around the world in the sort of last
big political cycle what fake news did, but how it
looks like real news on all these social websites, on Facebook,
on X on everything, and you think about media literacy
and how we're starting to talk about we've got to
teach it to kids, not just college students in journalism class,

(32:59):
for example. But it's like, we can't forget that in
when was the first silent picture? I can't remember if
it was like nineteen twelve or nineteen twenty, but.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
It was in that era twenty is I think?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, So let's say nineteen twenty, nineteen twenty one. People
go to the first Silent movie. There was a shot
of a train coming toward camera, and you know, we
do stuff like that all the time. We put the
camera on the road and the car barrels toward us
and we watch and we're like, oh, why speed chase.
But at the first Silent movie, when the train was
barreling toward the audience on screen, everyone got up and

(33:34):
ran out of the theater screaming.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
They freaked out because people.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Didn't know that something they were seeing in front of
them was not going to leave the screen, because they'd
never seen something that wasn't three D before.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
I think this is an eighteen ninety five, okay, short
film that you're talking about. Okay, obviously would have been
silent at that, yes, but still wow.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
So let's call it just barely over one hundred years.
We ran out of theaters because we thought trains on film,
we're real, and now we're supposed to like know how
to do this.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Just over one hundred years. And then think about, just
on a very personal level, how long it takes for
personal change. We think about the people that we know
who are fifty sixty seventy, and people can change, I believe,
throughout their course of their life, and they grow and
they evolve, but it doesn't happen overnight. So now you
are going to apply that to an entire culture and

(34:27):
say everything's supposed to be different, boom within one hundred years.
It's not that much time.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Sometimes you can be sixty five and still working on
something that your parents did in your childhood.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Two hundred thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Let alone this big massive shift, it's really hardy. It
honestly makes me more and more reclusive for lack of
a better word, because I still like connect with my
family and friends and you.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Know, go and play on my tennis teams here and there,
But like.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's cut me like off like I've been and like
I get very I just don't want anything to do
with it. It freaks me out, and so I have
these like little tactics I'll do, like I don't I
try not to charge my phone. I'll charge my phone
in my car, but I won't charge it at night,
so hoping that it dies throughout the day and then
I don't have access to the charger now, like kind

(35:18):
of like let it die.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
What a funny subconscious game to play with yourself.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
My fiance will like call me, so my my mom
and my sisters, they don't even call me anymore.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
They just call my fance Jared because they're like.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Why did you call me there?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Because you never answer your photo, Like I can't. I
just there's got to be aligned sometimes, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
But then on the flip side, sometimes I've realized that
lately it's been making it so I'm kind of like
lacking in what's going on, and I like to know
what's going on. So it's like, how do you find
that balance? How do you connect with your friends while
also not being so like allowing that you know, well,
you didn't get back to me for a couple of
days and.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
It's like, oh, that's okay, that's okay, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's like we need that.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Balance different priorities. Yes, yeah, but everybody's living with different
realities in their life, different priorities that they have to
set into place because everybody can't do everything, and all
the more reason why empathy is really important to be
able to, you know, recognize that everyone's growing at different paces.

(36:22):
Everybody has to prioritize different things. It's not going to
be a perfect process, you know.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
But when you're just viewing things off on the internet,
like how you know, is that building empathy or is
that taking it away?

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Like we're talking, Yeah, it's taken it away. But can
you have empathy for the person who's doing that understanding
that where they came from and the pace that they're
growing at is different than yours. And how do we
walk that fine line? Because it's really nuanced. It's not
an easy black and white like you get on this checklist,
you get on that checklist.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
It's tough. Yeah. I actually remember this happening with the
start of reality TV because I remember it was so new,
I mean, beyond the real world, like that was something
we had all watched. But when they started doing these
and you saw everybody fighting and going at each other
and getting like smashed on TV in a way that

(37:16):
you're like, ooh, that person clearly is hurting to be
doing this to their body repetitively. I remember my little
sister and I got into an argument because she wanted
to watch something while we were eating and I was like,
it was over the holidays, we were home for Christmas,
and I was like, turn it off. It makes me uncomfortable.
And she's like, oh my god, get over it, and
I was like, no, I think that it's putting this
weird energy in the house and then it does something

(37:38):
to our psyche, like I want nothing to do with it. Yeah,
now cut to like what fifteen years later or something.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
I watched The Housewives all the time.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I have Reality on my care and there, you know,
shifted your window. It shifted my window. So it's like
my threshold went up for this. But it's definitely I
can say for me, I don't even think it's not
a good thing. I don't it's I know it's not
a good thing, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Like I don't like that, Okay, can I give you
guys a wreck. It's we're taking a left, but it
is related. Stay with me here. I can't handle that stuff,

(38:25):
like so many and to each his own. Like, I
know a lot of people love reality TV. I can't
do it. It stresses me out. It's bad for me emotionally.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Also to be clear, like one of the things I
find the most stressful in the world, even though I
watch them because I think he's funny, or Adam Sandler movies,
because watching someone make mistakes for two hours and like
set their life on fire is so I have to
walk around the house, I have to take breaks. My
friends are like, are you okay? I like, no, I
can't handle it, Like it gives me a full panic.

(38:54):
This man, he just needs to tell people like so,
I understand that I am my own brad anxious human.
But the reality show Lane that I love, and you
have a farm, and we're all a little exhausted by
technology and would like to be disconnected. It's why you know.
I've had Instagram paralysis for at least six months. I

(39:16):
can't be there anymore. I don't know what to do
about it. I try to share a little news in
my stories every day and pretty much that's almost it.
My respite in reality TV is a show on the
History Channel called Alone. Have you watched it? No, you guys.
It is like it is a survivalist show about incredible

(39:41):
like hunters, outdoors men, environmental experts who know every herb
and leaf and mushroom in the forest, and they go
and they compete and they literally get dropped off in
the middle of nowhere alone and they have to be
their own camera crew and they get checked. I think
it's like every ten days they come in and they

(40:02):
bring a medical team to make sure no one is
you know, emaciated and dying.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Because you have to.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Live off the land, you get to bring ten things
with you and then the gear that they give to
everyone that is the same and you just have to survive.
Oh wow, all isolation, I mean all.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Sorts of things practically, Not practically, I mean emotionally, because
you're saying this is your respite, Like, what are you
walking away with?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I just can't stop watching it. I'm fascinated by the
human spirit. I think one of the things I really
like about it is watching these people be in such
connection to nature, but that it always circles back to
why they love the people in their lives, Like it
really is human connection that we live for, and it's
our connection with nature. I think that enriches our life.

(40:48):
And oh my god, you guys, it's just so good.
It is so good and you just learn all this
shit about Like I'm like, you know what, prior to
starting this show, I probably would have died in the
woods in three Now I think I can make it
a solid seven. Like I think I would last seven
days and then I might die. But like, I've really
learned a lot a whole week. Great, I'm telling you this.

(41:11):
We are not getting paid to advertise this show. I'm
just obsessed. I will never be able to go on
it because I am not a trained survival expert, but
I will watch it forever.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Are you not so enious of this information that these
people have?

Speaker 5 (41:25):
So much?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I just want to know all of it, Like I
think I am so bad at like gardening and all most.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I want to learn. If you want to start a
gardening club, I'm in. I have a plant club.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Here in Nashville. Great, we literally get together go dig
up plants and talk about them.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
My god, I would love that let's do it. Oh
my god, can we FaceTime in one hundred percent?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
We can just we can group chat it. See, this
is where the cell phones are helpful. But like, we'll
get there. We'll be like, no, we're we're doing tech,
but we're doing it to get into the dirt and that's.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
How we get How else are you going to get
into all that information except by not being on your
email and not being on your phone and just going
out there and getting into it.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
And it's good to do in community because when you
do it with your friends, then you're like, well, what
did you grow this week?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's a dream, right, what'd you grow?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Oh my god, I can't wait to talk to you
guys after you both watch your first episode of Alone.
I'm vibrating.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
I'm so excited to watch it.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's so good. It's a perfect holiday show.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Let's all just grow mushrooms and become experts at those
I would love that. Okay, they're asking us to move
on to some question, producer, are ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
There are fan questions stop talking about surviving in the.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Woods, speaking of Nanny Carey in the Woods. The questions
are pretty funny here actually Oh, here's a really good one.
Speaking of Nanny Carey in the Woods from Jackie, how
did you deal with the roach cereal that you had
to feed? Dan?

Speaker 1 (42:57):
You have to remember this. I definitely remember this. First
of all.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
One of the most fascinating parts of.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
This I remember is there is like I didn't know
there were certain different breeds of cockroach. Oh, the different breeds,
and they use a specific breed for film and TV
because they're more.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Trainable these ones. What That's what the guy told me.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Whether he was lying to me or not, I never
like fact checked him, but yeah, it was so crazy.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
It's so funny because right now, like if you were like, oh,
feed this cop.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You got it, I'd be like, oh, but I think
I was so in that Nanny Carey roll. I loved it.
I don't feel so bad for Paulo. I remember that
was the first time, like I looked at him and
I think I even said, I was like, who did
you piss off on this show? You're strapped in a
bed with a cockroach this close to your face. It
was so gross.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
How did he find it? Was he buggy? Was he
okay with the bugs? Or was he a lie? No?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
No, I don't think he was particular.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Paul's okay with a lot of things, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Think it's hard.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You know, I don't like that one.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
No, So if I dropped it, it's on somebody else
to come over it because I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I also remember because later I don't know if this
season or next season, but Lisa Goldstein and I had
to do a big scene with a bunch of roaches,
and they are very strict about the fact that you
can't touch them, squish them, hurt them, flick them. So
like your natural instinct with a bug to fling it
off you, and these are like protected set animals, insects,

(44:37):
and you are not allowed to put them at any
in any sort of risk. So like poor paul A
knows he can't, you know, throw it off of him
if it falls on them, and be probably isn't even
allowed to anyway. Disgusting, I cannot.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Oh honestly, it kind of makes me feel better knowing
that they're trained. It makes me feel a little bit
more like I care about them more. I could be like, Okay,
you serve a purpose. I guess I don't have to
be so scared of you, right, I don't know, it's
all psychological.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
I've gotten really far in your life, little roach, Like,
I don't want to be the one to hurt you.
Very proud of where you've come, Sophia.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
What do they want to what do they want to know?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
For me?

Speaker 5 (45:19):
This?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I actually think is really interesting because you were saying
this earlier about Jackson, like the moments where you were like,
how is this child not traumatized?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, were there ever days or moments where he was
afraid of you? Or did you guys gamify this stuff
so much that he was having a good time?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Good question.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I think he was pretty much having a good time.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Because the scene where I kidnap him from the wedding
and I take him to the hotel and that's where
Dan comes and finds me, and he like strangles me
and puts me up, gets a long against him.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
You would think for a kid that'd be trauma. They
gave him so much candy.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
This okay, But I saw Jackson literally I watched it
with my own eyes. He ran around the room and
then he went oh because I think he was like
the sugar high, so hardcore. I was like, oh my god,
this kid get a pad that from Sugar.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
So he had a fantastic time.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
I think that's great.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Oh good, But the corn Maze, I don't know. I
don't know. He may still have dreams about that. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Yeah, we'll have to find out. Yeah, find out one day.
Was it hard being on this one? That was from
Alexa And this last question is from Emma. She's saying,
what was it complicated being on the Vampire Diaries and
Winter Hill at the same time.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I actually don't think I was. I was on Pretty
Little Liars and Vampire Diurs at the same time alone.
Vampire didn't start yet when I was on One Tree
Hill with you, because yeah, because Paul and I were
together then, so I remember he started that after I
was done with that, that's right, because he was. I

(46:55):
remember the only episode I did watch. He was doing
Army Wives an episode and I went down there and
we watched the episode together. I totally forgot about that. That
was the one I remember watching in the hotel room
and was like so excited. I think it was like my
first episode coming out. We're like, oh my god, it
was so great. But yeah, so no, I did pre

(47:15):
Little Liars and Vampiredires at the same time, and that
was hard because I did Little Liars for seven years
and I went so in and out of that show.
I mean I even did the finale while I was
doing MED, so I was so used to doing everything
else that it wasn't cool.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Do you do you have anything else coming up that
everybody should be paying attention looking out for? What do
you want to talk about and plug?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
No? Quite Truthfully, I'm like taking especially the top of
this year to kind of focus on myself and grow
my own little family. So not that I'm taking a break,
It's not like that. I'm just being a little pick
here and kind of waiting for something really special to
take me out. And until then, I'm kind of like ruminating.

(48:00):
Are at home, focusing on a lot of writing things
I want to produce, and yeah, I feel like the
next acting thing that comes through, I just want it
to be something really really special. Because not that I
don't love everything we've done, I mean Montreal, Like, I'm
so grateful to have been a part of this show
that just keeps going on and on, and you know,

(48:21):
same with the whole like Chicago World and stuff. But
I've never actually watched something that I've done something that
I would actually sit down and watch, So that's kind
of like my new goal for the future time. And
anytime I thought like I was doing a movie that
I would, I'm like, oh, I'm so excited, it's like
a cool Indie and then it just turned out not

(48:42):
to really like you know, So that's kind of my
goal with things next. But where that goes, I'm not
quite sure. I'm just kind of like enjoying the holidays
and taking it slow right now.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
That's great?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Nice, Well, I loved having you. I'm so glad you
came back. We finally got to talk about car.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
I know, I know, I love talking about her.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I love her.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I love her.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Do you have a favorite Onset moment or Wilmington moment?
I mean, I know you said the feeling the comfort
of home from Florida, but anything on set, any fun
anecdotes for the fans out there.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Honestly, Joy my most favorite one. And I know I've
told you this guy. I told you guys this already.
It was just that first dand Set. I was so nervous,
but you just made me feel so comfortable and I
still have it. I told you you gave me that
it had a little turtle on it and it was
that letter opener. But you knew that I was going

(49:42):
to try to kind of break you in James up.
So you said, like, this is for all the not
so nice meal you'll probably be getting. But you said
it and it made me laugh.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
And you used to protect yourself too, Yeah, to protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You made me feel so comfortable, and so that was
one of the memories. Did you always have that right,
like you remember the people that really were like impactful
or gave you like the good piece of advice or
really kind of showed up. Because we always talk about
as actors it's so hard to go on other people's shows.
At this point, you're in season five, you're all a
bit exhausted. You've been doing this forever. You don't have

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to prep the same way somebody knew coming in. So
when somebody stops and has that like moment of like kindness,
because you were the first person I met, you were
the only person who really worked with for a while.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
So well, that was also that was that was going
to I mean, that was up to me. I had
to do that for you because not that I didn't
want to it's not in me, but like it is.
But I did feel a way of the responsibility of
that because I knew you were coming in to exactly
what you're saying, an established show and you were going
to try and break up this couple, and like, I didn't.
I just really didn't want you to think that it

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would like I didn't like you or that, you know,
because it was just going to be us. Like that
would have been so awkward for you to come into
an environment where it was like, oh, God, is she
actually mad at me? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Me?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
And then it was really great too because I got
to reconnect with Daphne, who played my mom on my
first show and fine, Yeah, we shared fine. So I
was like, yeah, so there was a lot of like that.
That show had so many firsts for me that it's like,
I'll carry that with me for a long time.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Do you remember going to Fondue with Daphne.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Daphne, remember she was like, he's never been to Pondu before,
been fond Wait, you.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Guys, why was Fondue such a big deal in Wilmington?
Like I just gave away the Fondue set that I
bought there. I was like, I'm never going to do this.
We used to go in Wilmington all the time. I
don't make fun do at home, Like, who do I
think I am? And I finally gave it to a friend.
Was it like a two thousand and six nationwide craze?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Like it was kind of yes, because I remember in
high school too and being very popular, like, oh.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
The rest of the fondue restaurants. Well, there was a
fond restaurant the Melting Pot, and we all sat around,
we had dinner, and Daphne was kind of like she
was game for it at first, like oh, interesting, okay, fun,
you know, And we're sticking the raw meat on the
stick and cooking it over the flames. She's like, how
long does this take? About an hour and a half
into the meal, the guy comes over and he's like, okay,

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so I'll clear your plates, can I can I get
you dessert? And Daphne looks at him and she goes,
do I have to cook it?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
I can't believe I remember. So she's like, I can't
believe I pay to cook my own food?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Obsessed? Hey, guys, we should take her to we should
take her to Korean barbecue in La just to just
to make her laugh.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Oh yeah, it'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Well, it's great to see you, mama. You look great.
You seem so happy.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Always nice to talk with you. So good to see you. Guys.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
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