Episode 430 w/ Ed Lover

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
He is Drinks Chants, Motherfucker podcast Make SI He's a
legends every Queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy
in O r E. He's a Miami hip hop mionneer.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
What Up as dj E f N?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,
you know what I mean, and the.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for
drunk drink chans.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mother post d is new year CST. It's time for
drink Champions.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Drink up, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Mother? Would it gonna be hoping to? You?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Said me as your boy in O R E? What
Up is dj E f N? And it's drink chance, motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You have to be man.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
And when we started this show, we said we wanted
to give flowers to brothers who who came before us,
who the wait for us. Literally, if it wasn't because
of this man doing what he did, being the personality
that he was, we probably wouldn't be here.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We heard he started as an artist, then heard who
Jay and said that's not it. I'm gonna find another profession.
And he found another profession. He was one of the
first people in hip hop that was multitasking, meaning having movies, radio,
and television back then when that was unheard of early.

(01:30):
He's a legend, legend of icon or icon, your favorite
Rapper's favorite rapper has a story with him, and it's
final to the day to give him his flowers, to
tell him how much he means to our community, our culture,
our society.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
In case you don't know what we're talking about, what
your mother want to know?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
The motherfucker? That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I'm like to go now, now, do we got the.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Language?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
He's easy?

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I was just saying, man, do you have the easy
eclip signed up? Look, there's two part questions. I want
to show you got the easy clips signed up?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I mean, you ain't got the show to me show
to him now, but we want to see your reaction.
I'm going to number one video on the conference.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Man, Okay, I can't say I tell them what we have?
What what's up.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
You actually it says it labels it as a love
of smacks easy Heat.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, there's different different versions of that video with different
different titles, but that's what that's what is labeled ass.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
But then when you watched the footage, you actually put
it in your hands that's what we used to call
back in the day, is a mush.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, the smash. This is something that I'm quite sure
he's going to bring it up.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Me and stretched from lock each other all the time,
each other in the smash, like what you gotta. We
even put our hands in each others pockets, take ship
and throw it on the ground, just putting each other
in the smash.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I was talking with Easy, Easy, I just put the
nigga in the smash. But y'all, y'all already had that
kind of rapport with each other.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, don't understand.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
He was. Easy was the coolest thigga man ever. Bro Like.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I remember one time we went and and we did
uh n w A in l A and we was
out and Compton by Compton swamped me. I had the
dead wrong ass color on for that nigga, dead wrong
pick up. I was freddy with them. When we got
out to go into Compton Swamp Meet to shoot. Easy
was like, yo, you got to sit in the car. Man,

(04:01):
send the car for a minute. And he went in
and he got me a black wind breaker. He got
me a black braid. That's hatting a black. You got
your neutral, you got me right. You got me neutral
because he was like the O g got to do
it to you. You're from the young ron niggas trying
to get a rep. So he got me right. So yeah,
Easy shit was crazy. So it's two things you asked
me what you answered. One of the part is did
you have a rapport before that? But then the other

(04:23):
part was he whispered something into your ear? And everyone
always wonders because y'all go into the video after that, right, well,
everyone always wonders what was exactly did he.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Whisper in your ear?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
And everybody gonna have to wait for that fucking bullet.
That is one of the young bro That is one
of the biggest questions I ever get in my life.
You see people on the thread he he disrespected. He
said some foul shit about shooting, and Easy was a businessman.
Eaz knows if he'd have said some foul shit to me,

(04:54):
he would have never got another video played on MTV.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
And by the way, it couldn't have been too crazy
because it's still got And.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Remember he had the pool. He used to have the
pool party, which was fucking debauchery, nigga, The Easy pool parties,
the Bachery easy easy pool parties and we'll get to
that too. Easy pool parties was like what Luke was
smart enough to do. Luke used to when we used

(05:25):
to come to Miami with Luke. Luke would bring all
the program directors, all the radio dudes all night and
then bringing all the strippers and pay for everything. So
when you left from Miami, you was like ship that
nigga Luke. You always remember that Luke took care of you.
So when you got back, like we was gonna play
you on TV rets We was playing move something because
Luke makes sure something move when we're done in Miami.

(05:47):
So we was playing that ship. Bro Easy was doing
the same ship. He was just doing the same ship.
He had the pool party, went and wild and girls
all over the place, Lika drains weed, whatever the fuck
you wanted.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
He was doing the same ship. It.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Wow, that was marketing. What do you think life would
have been like if Instagram was back then?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Ship?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
First of all, I'd have been fucking super wealthy because
I probably had two hundred three hundred million followers world
right easy, so I could have leveraged that corporately somehow,
some way. But shit, Instagram then we'd all been fucked
up for a lot of the ship that we was doing.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
We've all been fucked up.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I've probably never been married if we had.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
I heard you say in the very beginning, like you
really were it really wasn't about money. I don't remember
if you said you wasn't making money or really wasn't
about money.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You were saying you did it for the love. I
would have did it for free, wow, honestly, because that's
how much I love hip hop. That's how much I
wanted to be a part of it. That's how much
I really wanted to get myself involved in it. Like
I've said on many interviews, I heard ll rhyme and
then I figured I was the MC after that, right, well,
just two nights and too young, yeah, fifteen. He was

(06:57):
nice like and I was like, well on in them.
They from my way. So we used to all rhyme.
I was back when I was Eddie D. Everybody had
a D on their name. I don't even know what
the fuck the D was, you know, and running them
would come in the park and you know, we rhyme
would ron and and D come out. You know, D
always had rhymes. So that was back then. But when

(07:18):
I heard this young fifteen year old kid from Farmers Boulevard, Bro,
I was like, nah, I can't. I can't even make
records like that, delivery, his wordplay, everything. So I had
to try to figure another way into this Himpi and
it was your TV raps Bro.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
So let me ask you because at that time, it
was really just about being the DJ or the MC.
It really wasn't about being a VJ. You know, although
we had Ralph before.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
That, right, the d Boys and the graffiti artist as well.
Know what I'm saying is, listen, let me get to
the point I was trying to make. Was like, other
than Ralph, I didn't see too many vj's, right, So
what made you and Dre like even one to to
explore that? It was first?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okay average first, And when I saw that I saw
the name Ted Demi on that Ted Demi was a
dude that I knew from church. Wow, not from Queens. No,
he's from Rockville. Uh, he's from Long Island. Okay, wow, yeah,
he's right there, Rockville Center. That's where you're from, Rockville Center.

(08:20):
So Ted Demi is a pisk compellion. His parents. My
best friend Kurt Flirt. Shout out Kurt Flirt. His uketarian
is episcapellion PRIs copal a pist compellion. So they would
have the fellowship ship and they were going to retreats
and kurt moms always like, bring Ed, you know, keep

(08:42):
Kurt out of trouble, but youn't know that was more trouble.
And then we met the little white guy from Rockville
no Long Island and uh Rockville Center, and that motherfucker
just knew hip hop and he loved the music and
he knew all of this ship about us, and that
was Ted. So we kept in touch all through high school.
We used to take our block from our block to
go to the rock Felle Center to play Ted and
his friends, and then he bring his friends to us,

(09:04):
and then we stayed with them all through college and everything.
And I saw that name on them credits and I
was like, what does Ted have to do with your
on TV?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Rats, Oh.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Plug, I'm gonna tell you. I was doing a documentary
called What What and When when Chris Lightdy saw it,
Chris Ldy said, I need you to meet this.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Guy in LA and his name was Ted. Dimmy I
had that I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I didn't know, Ted Dimmy, Ted did your TV bath
at the time, Ted Dimney, they make us wait, we're
on a ping pong playing ping pong. Ted Dimmy comes
out with a guy who looks like Johnny Depp and
he just throws fucking cocaine on the table. And then
Johnny Depp just sniffed the ship.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Not Johnny Depp, the guy looks like him. He me out.
So we're all this is like two way days. We're
all like, yo, we texted each other in the same.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Room, like, yo, did you see what I seen? Come
to find out it was Johnny Depp? It was fake cocaine.
They was promoting the movie Blow, Yo.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But this this is there, was like should we use
this as a promotional item? And that's what I knew.
Ted was out of his fucking mind. Ted didn't blow
did the movie blo.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Directed? That directed the movie Blow? Ted directed the movie
Life with Eddie mur Yes, Yes, yeah that's Ted did
Who's the man?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Who's the man? Ted? Who's the man?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
So what made you stick with him? Because all right, cool,
you on TV blowing up? You have your chance to
do your own movie, But don't cut through every day.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I want to know when you connect with him and
how you he actually gets it. So I started get
to your TV right, So I started.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I saw Ted's name, I got the number. I started
calling him. I'm like, Ted, you gotta get me on
this show.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I know hip hop like nobody else know what. I'm
in love with it. It's my thing. He's like, we
already got FAB. I was like, well, you know, hip
hop touches everything and make everything dope. Let me come
on and do a record report, let me do a
movie review, let me do something. And then they decided
they wanted to do a daily show because the show
had blown up.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
The show the show actually blew.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Up with Ronde and Willingham did the pilot for it
from their tour. That's what really set the whole ship off.
Then they hired Fab. You know, Fad was downtown. You
know Deborah Harry. Everybody loved Fab. Debora Harry had Fab five.
Freddy told me that is my wife. I knew the
only person that was gonna come through.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Fab five.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Freddy told me everybody fly DJ Smith, so Fab was on.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
He was on.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
He was a graph artist, the ambassador hip hop at
the time. Absolutely and him and Box Scout is like this,
like there's so much layers the Fab that people don't
know about. And then Fab didn't want to do the
Daily Show because he was also directing. He had did
like I think he did self destruction. I think he
did care Rust One videos. He did a lot of videos,
so he was directing too, so he did not want

(11:52):
to do it. So they had to find somebody to
do the Daily Show. Peter Dougherty, who was the executive producer,
knew Dre from Dre being a tour d J for
the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Ted knew me. I did not know Drake before DJ yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
For the Beaci Boys before Hurricane. Yeah, so you know Dre,
Dre and T Money also co wrote I'm Proud to
Be Black from run DMC off the Region. You know,
he was signed to Death Jam. They had their group.
They signed the Death Jam knowledge me. I mean that
was them way before I even knew dra We just
did it over when we did the backup off me
out Ah, my wife is killing me geez. Okay, So

(12:31):
we did that and uh Ted saw it. He saw
Laurel and Hardy. He Dre had already auditioned went back
and was talking to Peter and Peter's office upstairs.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'm in there with Ted and he putting me on tape.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And then Ted called Peter and was like, is doctor
Dre still in and Dre he was like yeh, I said,
send them to my office and he come down. He said,
I'm gonna put y'all on tape together. And I remember
asking Drake. Ted had just come back from Jamaica something.
He had the Dreadlock wigs in there, and I was like, Dre,
do you can you speak pats Wild Like He's like, no,
my father's Jamaican.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I was like bet.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So we put the wigs on and we did some
crazy Jamaican ship and Ted was like, that's what I want,
Laurel Hardy and he took it to MTV and m
TV said we got money to pay one person, and
me and Dre said we'll split it and we took it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Look, one of my favorite things to do is to
when we come here is uh uh see if the
artists on time. I knew he was gonna be on time,
so I didn't take that back. I didn't take that back.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I was like, yo, his his his radio background and
his professionalism.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
He's not gonna have he's not gonna be late.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So then I've been waiting to be on this fucking show.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, Hold hold on, but I'm like, this is my nigga.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
My second thing is to always know what the artist
is drinking. Now you order one of the most unique
drinks ever on drink Champs history. Let's let's see what
that is. Okay, now what is that? That is Basil
Hayden dog ride mis Bourbon. It's whiskey whiskey bourbon. Y. Okay,
we put in a special order. Let's let's get this.

(14:14):
Let's leave that there for him. We put in a
special order because you're a special type of guy, and
we had to do something special because we said we
were going to make sure you got that, but then
we got you.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Hell hold on man, hold on, wow, whoa.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now this is special ship right here. I told you
all my boys.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
My man Cam Newton's body got his spots of spot
called fellowship, a Sira, life and times and pleasure chants,
all of them is like bring that home, bring that
home right there. That's special thanky man, Thank wow, that's
crazy right. I'm so happy because I've been waiting for
somebody to order a merry can whiskey and I'm like, yo,

(15:02):
just just see what you order. And then who is it,
mister Lee who sent the pits? And I was like.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And I was like, I said that foret I think
is that American whiskey? And I was like, yeah, I said,
I hope he loves this pappy because we're going in.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, we're going.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Now. You drink Pappy. I drink Pappy where I might
chill it just a little.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Just a little bit. I said, we're gonna do over
a little ice. Yeah, we're gonna do it. I'm gonna
do a little bit of let it breathe. Sometimes we
can just drop a thing of water and just a
little bit of water. But that's Pappy different, you know. Yeah,
you know, so I throw a big ice Cuban rock,
but that's Pappy. Save for that flake you you saved
for that flavor that's hard to get. Yeah, y'all drink

(15:46):
chances for real with that ship hard to they'd be
having lines outside of like liquor stores when they throw Pappy.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Dropping twelve year two.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Hell, so, let me ask you, how.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Did you get to Atlanta? I know I'm bouncing around.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
But I want to know, like you know, because I
want to I want to get to a birthday party.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's my son over there. As you came to that
talk about that first when we when we both lived
in West Arms.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I don't know if you glad you brought that up,
because I swear I was going to bring it up.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
A lot of people don't know. See's birthday party had
Chris Lighty and yoah ruh the week there before John
fifty Star Beefmith. That's right, I spin a gard. It
was at my crib and Love was talking.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
To the only person and he's too young to even
know it was asked.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Fucking goddamn party. But remember Chris light he lived down.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
The Chris Lighty was my next door to next door
neighbor god Rest, so he was my I tell you
a quick Chris story.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Let's go okay.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I lived directly next door to Chris Lighty. Chris
Lighty had blacktop in his driveway. When I moved in,
Chris was already there. I didn't have a driveway. I
had the circular thing there, but it was dirt, so
I called the paving stone niggas. I put these fifteen
thousand dollars paving stones. I didn't think about Chris. I
was just thinking about beautifying my house. Paving stones. They

(17:09):
got an interlock. It's not blacktop. So Chris rings my
bell one day and goes, that's what you're doing. I'm like,
what the fuck is you talking about?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Chris?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
He said, you see me, I got the asphalt blacktops. Shit,
you're gonna put down the paving stone. I said, Chris,
I wasn't even thinking about you, bro, I didn't put
the past stock. He said, who's your paving stone, dude?
So I gave him my paving stone, dude, paving stone dude.
Come they tears, driveway up. They put down paving stones.
He and Norri Will attested my take his asshole, Chris.
Whenter time comes, I'm shoveling my ship. Chris got just

(17:38):
as much snow as I got, he said. I said, Chris,
you ain't gonna shove me your snow. He said, come
in the house. He clicked the ship he had he
put under the motherfucker so you can help doing me.
And I loved him though, Man, I love that shovel
and ship click.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
And I was like, wow, just that that was.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
That was a time.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
It was.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I believe Laurence Hill lived one of the happy god
damn hell yeah, sorry fellas like bringing that this ship on.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
So I remember Laurier Hill lived one where Redman lived
down the block.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Jar Ru lived here. I lived in Jersey. Yeah, Chris
Lighty living I'm talking about in a twelve minute span
like hip hop neighbors and Jaru and then Chris Lighty
at love like and uh.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
And Latifa Lata had which called it kay she from
Nordy Okay yeah yeah, but I would go to Shore
Hills more and.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
This was this, for lack of a better term, Atlanta.
This was like the first almost Lenox more like, because
we would be deep in there but moving around. Uh.
The death of Chris Lighty. I still don't believe Chris
Lighty took his own life.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I will never believe Chris Lighty took his own life.
Chris Lighty was too full of himself that his life.
Chris Lighty was too full of life, too much love
for his children and too much love for his for
this business for him to take his own life. I
don't think anybody that was closely associated with Chris in
any manner and you were probably closer to christ and
I was. We were neighbors, but he was probably homies.
I'm moving it in our own directions. We had barbecues together,

(19:18):
we gave our kids someone Christian.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
You were there, Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
He gave him the big birthday party and they both
slept through it because.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
There was only one years old.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's been fifteen thousand dollars a piece on the fucking
war since all kind of dumb shit, Chris. They turned
it to the dope park, right, But that's how much
life Chris had in him. So I will never ever
ever believe, and I don't give a damn when nobody
says that Chris Lighty took his own life. That's one
thing that I will never believe. So your son's back
to your son's birth Yeah, ye again. Okay, So Chris

(19:48):
tells me, I'm going We're going by Norrie House.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
But in fact, I'm thinking joy at this time, faccause.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Continue to continue.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm thinking seeing that mean war report, were getting ready
to hit the bridge. I'm not going to the fucking
project and I get some money now, I'm not doing
that ship. We turned the corner into this fucking beautiful
fucking honey. And you know, okay, so I'm thinking, okay,
the house is nice, but it's gonna smell reek of
bead and feet and ship the stink.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'm living like a cost yo. When I want that
fuck me up, I'm like, this nice.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Way out of his cock because like a ship fucked
me up. I had to, you know, in my head,
I'm like, listen, what what normally shoot them up, kick
the buildings over him, the component and this think of
you like watching nice couch and shit a section.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, honey, Fat Joe told me the same thing, and
he's like, people don't know you live like this. Sadly,
I don't think I have in this house. I still do.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
So oh man, man, yo, look all right, let's get
just get this. So just tell you something. We've been
trying to do this forever. You know, I said it
in the intro. If it really for you, you you
you set the standards because there was other people in
the radio, but I feel like there was other people
that was imitating. Like there was one person on the radio,

(21:16):
then when you got to meet them in person, it
was a whole different individual. He was You're one of
the first people that I got to see witness for myself.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You were who you.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Were in the radio. You were who you were when
I sent you in Queens. You want you who you
were in real life. So we want to give your
flowers face to face man and man, mister Lee, we
working up face gives thank you, well, you know something normal.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's what I always strive to be because I grew
up listening to radio like everything Frankie.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh bro oh god, wow.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Wow, and it gives keep coming beautiful man, Thank y'all.
I appreciate that. Yeah, this is the Frankie Cracker every night, right,
you knew it was eight o'clock when I dare I
go there Go came on the radio, so you know
it was eight. And then I would listen to Chuck
Leonard and the cats like that, and I love Chuckling
and all that, but he always put on a voice
list is Chuck Leonard, let's go off school radio school

(22:11):
radio shit. So I was like, if I ever get
the opportunity to get on the radio, I'm gonna be mean.
And the same person that you're gonna get outside of
the radio is gonna be the same person that you're
gonna get on the radio. And my man Bugsy big Shot.
The Bugsy was very instrumental and making sure that I
stayed that route. And just all you can be is yourself. Man,
you can't be nobody else. I'm a one on one.
So that's the way I look at it. You know

(22:32):
what I mean, I'm gonna do me no matter what.
I don't even care. I'm just gonna be me fire
But all right, let's bounce around a little bit.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
One of the most one of the first times the
industry got to see pot be out of control.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Like maybe he was out of control before that, but
it wasn't documented. Was that your m TV rapp where
you can kind of tell y'all got a relationship already,
and you know what you're stopping is not going like
because I don't think. I don't think when you were
stopping him it was about you stopping him from this
in the Huge Brothers, I think it was you stopping him.
And you correct me if I'm wrong, you stopping him
because you know where this would have led back then.

(23:09):
The higher option of.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
People said that I was always a person that think
a little bit sometimes, and uh, I knew when POC
was going off.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I was like this ain't gonna be good because you
got a case.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
So you're actually going on television saying that you did
what they accused you. So I was like, before you
bury yourself anymore, let me shut you up.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Bro, stop because you know and they subpeeded that ship.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
They didn't. You know what's funny about the four this?
After I keep looking at it, y'all didn't have to
bleep him. He edited his own self, but he didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
When I look back at it, I'm like, why do
I have a call?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Can I vest on a no shirt?

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
What the fuck is I think of that? I want
some sexy ship.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
William, I'm thinking, why did I have a shirt on?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Always look at the stupid ship? So you also I
noticed this.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Your show was on six days a week, Monday through Friday,
twice on Saturday. Yeah, Dallas a successful as showy.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm being successful.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You guys were the front line and broadcasting hip hop
to the world because there was You guys were the
first one that would word to the entire country, if
not even further than that.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Right, Yeah, we're in around the world and people are
recording it like maybe the world WI. Yeah, we're worldwide, bro,
and for from my perspective more so than Dre, because
Drey had already had a foot in the door and
I really didn't. I was a fan bro Like, I
would fan the fuck out when I found out certain
people were coming to the shop.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I'd be like, oh my god, public enemy is coming.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I drink.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's how I am.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like. I was a fan of the music, so to
be able to sit down and talk to dudes about
their music and they and they art and they culture,
and if you look back at it, at that time,
it really was about the art. It really was about
the culture of hip hop. It really was about the music.
Look at some of them old videos. Nobody sneakers was
clean son, nobody had afford, no wardrobe style niggas or

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whatever they had, it was no wardrobe change. So you
had to They wanted to do this ship like you
wanted to be known as being one of the best
coming from your neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
You want it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Like they say pressure makes pikes, right, I mean I
mean pressure makes diamond right. So when kras One hissed
the hole and fucking tied queens, which pisched me the
fuck off because I was like, all of us ain't
got you got people for them, queens Bridge niggas.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Sticking out on that south side. I was fucking pitch.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It put the pressure on Queen And then look at
what came out of Queens after that. Look at too
notable ship that has come from that burrow that was
so highly disregarded and disrespected. That's why I'm so fucking
proud to come from Queens bro I'm so proud to
be from Queens. I wear that ship like a badger arm.
I got king from Queen's tattooed to my arm. Brom
rocks fresh. They used to disrespect us like crazy, call

(26:09):
us the desert. Yon is corny right now, Hey, they
know it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Uh what's ill about that is five percent has made
that that that derogatory expression the desert. It made it fly,
right because five percenters took that and it was like,
oh the desert, and it was like it was cool
to people from the desert.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
They said, Mohammed walked through the desert and all that screen.
I mean, but uh, I'll tell you what me seeing
run DMC, me C and l L come before me
knowing where they're from. It always gave me hope. Was
that something that that that it was in YouTube?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Absolutely, Being four blocks away from jam Mass and j
no one want to watch them make it and watch
Jay have like crabb feasts at his house and inviting
everybody there. I was there when they sent the buses
to Hollis Avenue said, anybody want to come to the garden,
you come for free. That's the night run took the
shoe off and held it up. They got the Adidas
deal that night, So everybody wearing a DTA.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Turn the fucking lights on. Everybody had any deda on
And that's the influence. They got the.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
First shoe deal of a non athlete, first shoe deal.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
That inspired the ship out of me. Man.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I was like, if they can do this, and ll
can do it, and then salt and peppers from Queens,
and krom is from Queens and cannon players from Queens.
Veric b is originally from Queens. If you see Martin Lawrence,
mart Lawrence was in Queens a lot. You got Molly
and Shan and Chante and nooring them from left racking,
all of these guys called Queens. Man running them was

(27:40):
the biggest inspiration from me and Russell than anything else.
Knowing that they were that close and they were touchable.
Dmcus to always come around. DMC had the big ass
bronco with a fucking freezer built into the back of it,
with nothing before the ounces of old English, a black bronco,
and he always had a round. I'm like, did you
got a rhyme? You wass had to fold it up

(28:01):
rhyme in his pocket? You pull it out, kick a
round to you real quick. So he was very inspiring
to me, very relatable, and a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
It was one time that they dressed like like different
and then they took.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
The super nerves. Yeah, with the plaid jackets on over
that corny ship. That was is their whole style everything.
D don't deny it, run, don't deny it. Yeah, they
said they got all that ship from j. J was
the one that had the DA on the fucking big
rope and ship Jay did all that. Yeah you know
Jay isn't man damn Yeah. Rest in Pieces one of

(28:37):
the one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Bro. Now, Also, we love the story. The Grandma y
story was big.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Well, well, I love that story because Uh, I don't
know if Big invented that, But to this day there's
people who drink half a bottle of shat pang and
they will mix it with some whole other ship. But
let me be out, that's with you, the first time
I heard of any of that ever.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
It is you telling the story.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
You were Big. That's the night he died. That's the
night he died. That's the night he got killed. Peterson
auto monial music. Matter of fact, it's funny. Shout out
Kenny Burns because I just got off the phone with
Kenny Burns earlier today. Kenny called me because he said
he was in the gym and he was working out
and he was mouthing the words the hypnotized Mad loud,
and he said some dude came up to him and say, yo, Mat,
just heard ed Love talking about you and about the night. Yeah,

(29:30):
we were all laying man, and uh, he was sitting there.
He had had that car accent with seas he had
the cane and he was sitting there and he used
to always he would never call me Ed.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
He would Edwin all.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
The time, ed Dwyn and I called him Christopher, Christopher
ed Dwyne all the time, and he gave me a
bottle of dom pet and he.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Was like a little Drea. Shoot.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm like, how the fun I'm supposed to drink half
a bottle of dom Pete. They got him trunk already
bring it back to the halfway point, and then I
did it. I took it around and we was all
yelling and showed me the money because that movie had
just came out and we was wilent.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
We giving everybody champion. I brought it back.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
The nigga reached down Paul of ball of Grandma. He
felt it back up and smacked to me, Now I'm
looking at this nigga, like, get the fuck out. That's
what kind of duty was I think that mix? No,
I d I get the rest of that ship out.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
I didn't drink for disaster, absolutely yeah, bouncing around right.
One thing about you, I believe we did hot like
Jamaica one time, right, you remember that. And one thing
I loved was you immediately became the leader on the
bus as soon as you came, Like I can tell
this wasn't your first time there.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Right, But I felt like, was that ship when you
were in college fraternity? Like you? How I felt about
hip hop. You just what I'm saying you, let me
just tell you something.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
You that day you were angie like being the the
OG's at that time, especially still now, but it was
like y'all took control and that was showing us younger
artists how to move even how to like yo you
just how you check into the hotel, you to do that.
I haven't felt like that since, Like it feels like

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it feels like it's more.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Of a I want to battle you and be better
than you than I want to teach you situation right,
And I don't want to turn into that guy in
my day. You know, we shoued to do this and
do that.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
But I just want to also state facts like you
embrace the new artists. I feel like Asie embraced the
new artist. If flex like your record, he would embrace
you and alert yeah, alert everybody right now. And I'm
not everybody. That name was DJ's and TJ's personality.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Because no artists. You're saying yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I'm saying yeah, there was artists at that time. Fund
embraced me, Joe embraced me.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Uh now it's embraced me. Mark Deep embraced me. But
I don't see that going on. Do you used to feel
that fraternity love, because I think I don't feel it
because I think, first of all, radio has changed. Radio
has changed so much, and it's okay, everybody wants to
get their money. But I kind of feel like we
were still fans.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
We know what we did, we.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Know the impact that we had in the community, but
we're still fans, and so at the same time, we're
excited about talking to you, excited that you was coming,
excited to embrace you on your new record.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I feel like some of these.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Radio personalities think they just as big as the artists
that they're talking to.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I never felt like that. I always felt the most
important thing was the artist.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
So if we could show you by leadership, just how
you can stop being an artist for a while. Like
we're on the bus, Nori, we're in Jamaica. You don't
have to be Norriega right now. You can just be
who you are. Let's go to Dunge River Falls and
fucking slip on the rocks and have a good time.
Let's smoke some bug and chill out. I think Patrin
was there and she cooked the fucking hot ass chickens

(32:53):
killed all of us.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It was delicious though.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
But that's the environment that we always wanted to set
for everybody, that this is the time until you get
on that stage to perform, you're around us. We're just
here to have a good time. All the other ship.
We ain't gonna stick, no micing your face, ain't nobody
secretly recording nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
We just wanted to have a good time with you.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Like, but that sounds like true community where they got
to a point now where like it's not just radieros
all of media, but all of hip hop where a
lot of people jumped into the fold. We didn't really
care or were fans of the culture, right, so they
get anything either.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Right, oh this commit me money, I could jump into
this lane right and not truly they don't care to cultivate,
to take care of the culture, do right by it,
just like when you decided to not rhyme because you
respected that out of ll.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
How do how do we.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
How do we bring that feeling back? How do we
bring that community back? Where I could call could call
the baby and be like, yo, the baby you.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Know man, I wish I knew man, because I would
I would love to drop some jewels on these dudes
on how to keep their money and how to how
to fucking stay out of prison, and how not to react.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I think that's one of the.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Biggest things that that they have to learn and that
a lot of people have to learn, just us period
as people, that we got to move off of logic
and not move off of emotion. You can't let every
time somebody say something to you make you react towards
them in a violent man or any other man. And
sometimes you just gotta let that shit be workeed off
of ducks back and keep going. There's many times in

(34:26):
my career where I would be in the mall, even
with my kids. Bro, I'm in the mall and somebody
behind me like, yo, you know that's ed love. And
you know when somebody trying to.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Bait you funck that nigga.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Man, nobody give a fuck about that nigga. Instead of
me spending and be like fuck you too and get
into some shit, I just go all right, y'all, come on,
let's go, because it ain't worth it, man. It's they
want to make a name, and especially today, the camera's
going to start costing you money.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's like it's a trap. It's a trap. So if
they listen.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
There's there's a lot of OG's like yourself, like me,
and I would love to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I would.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
I would definitely do, and be honest, I definitely would
like to lend my expertise, but I also don't want
to waste my time to like you.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Know what I'm saying. I was at that age and
I know I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Listening to somebody, but if somebody listen to me, I
would let my time absolutely. I would. You have a
thought hip hop would get this dumb? Damn No, it's mean.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
People ask me that I think that hip hop would
get this far.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yes, but this dumb?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
No, I don't think it's dumb.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I think it's some real, credible, great young artists out
there that I enjoyed listening to.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I really really do.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I just think that the avenue for bullshit is why.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Wide open bullshit makes more money. Yes, like we get
how do we close that gap?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
There's other people that got something to say, and then
there's no balance.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
That's the only problems we had. Balance.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
We had the balance, we had the ex clan and
public enemy, and then we didn't understand why.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
To mew a in public, and he was the perfect
balance at that perfect balance.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
And was too.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
He had here intelligence and he has treets on absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
So if bigging them was saying I mean not big
if Snooper was saying, bitches ain't ship but holding tricks,
Lativa say who you calling her bitch? I punched your
dead in the eye. You calling the bitch? Uplifting women.
We had Lauren Hill, you know, you had Nikki d
and all of that Daddy's little girl. You had Eve
talking about abuse being abused, you know from from the

(36:32):
perspective of her looking at her girlfriend being abused. You
had that kind of stuff on record as well as
us enjoying the hardcore ship. Now it's just dumb ship
and it's not lyrical at all. You really don't have
to be nice, which pisces the fucking shit out of me.
I hate it. You don't have to be nice, you
just have to be catchy. And they'd be like, it's
a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. Okay, this

(36:54):
ship ain't for me. All right, I'm fine with it,
but go make your money. I'm happy about that too,
me too. Make much money as you can.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Off the ship. You're very happy about that. Yeah. I
don't ever like to blame the artists that are doing
it because make your money. No, I blame the audience
is fault for saying I want to be this dumb
but they don't know. It's the artists for dude like
I can't, can't.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
They will try to add off and then when that
ship that they try and don't work, they go right
to the low lows hanging front. Let's think about your face.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I should be like, oh, ship, you.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Couldn't get away with no crazy the lyrics in the
late eighties.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
That's not true. There's always been whacking on, always been whacking.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
It has been whacking seas, but you could barely rarely
get away with it.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I agree with that. I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
But there's always been people who who who got over
that hump recome.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, there's always been that career that so long you
rapping dudes excutive executive to actually real hip.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I see somebody interfiting with the wrapping duke.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah hell yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Vana Ice was trashed too. I love Rapper, I love Rocket.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
We went and we went to Russia together. I love
to do. But he was not a great raperd we
gotta take a drink to that. He's named after Pappy
van Winkle, Robert, give him a new drink, give him
hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So he came out he could dance though. That was
the entertainment value into but as a rapper, come on,
all of us was man at them.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So Stretch, Yes, let's talk about the super legend.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I wanted to say queens, but that that'll be so
limited to New York City, New York City. I want
to say worldwide, because if you bring up the beginning
of pop right after Digital Underground, it goes straight to Stretch.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Stretches from the live squad.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Stretcher actually brung Tupac to Left Rack City. You know,
obviously Stretched had a relationship with E Moneybags, who's from
my building, grew up there before he eat money Bass. Yes,
so let's talk about that era because you grew up
with Stretch.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
No Stretch came to me when they was trying to
get a record there, Tommy Boy. Yes, I got them
signed the time you got them Sign of Time. I
played here demo for tif Latifa, set up the meeting
when Monica and Monica signed them, and then they did
that short short form video. Okay, that was like three
songs and short killing people. Yeah that was crazy. If
there's like nine hundred thousand dollars on that video. Yeah,

(39:28):
three songs and one long video that connected all the songs.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
And that's because that's the rumor is that Pop reached
out because Park lighted that gangster ship, like he saw that.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
They met on a set of juice. Oh, they set
the juice. Yeah, I was in juice. If you blink,
you miss get her.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Behind, I've been looking for you for when you announces
came right behind.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't say ship.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm just standing there, but I'm there all day. Just
ship that ship and we made and we knew.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Pop because we knew Shock underground.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
We knew Shock, so we knew POC when Pok was
roady and then Pac was playing Bishop and then them
niggas smoked like Chimney. So they smoking and talking and
the next thing you know, boom, they friends. Man, they friends,
and they was deep friends.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Too, real good stretch and Pop. Yeah, real good friends. Yeah.
Go ahead, asked a hard question.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah, because I want to because I don't want to
blame their relationship on big that they fell out because
didn't they fall out a little bit before that.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
They were together when the shooting happened. That's gotta be
the They was together. So, in lack of a better term, well,
they went into the building together. They walked in the
building together. Ah wow, Yeah, it was more than it
was thinking. I think Freddy was there too, and I
think not fab five fred but my man Freddy from Queens.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I think he was with him too.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
And everybody knows that's from New York. I want to
say everybody from Queens, but everybody knows in New York.
Who was that crew that was affiliated with that Young Guns.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, geez e money bags, Gam shout out Gam, shoutout
homo e money all of them. Yep, so Madge, Stretch
brother Mann.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
What would who would it be if Pak didn't go
to Unique Studios that night?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Unique or Quad Quad sorry Quad Quad whole different ballgame, bro.
You want to tell me, you want me to tell
you what I think Pak would have been today? Yes,
the most impressive actor out of all rap actors, probably
would have already been nominated for an Academy Award one
and would have definitely been on the front lines of
Black Lives Matter. Absolutely would have been on it. He

(41:40):
was a panther at heart.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
He really cared about his people. He cared, he loved
his black people. He would have been at the forefront
of that ship. Definitely would have been at the forefront
of him. And I believe he'd probably already won Academy Award.
He was gifted. Bro, that good as an actor. He
was just natural, right, There wasn't no work for him.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
He was natural. Now I'm bouncing around a little bit up.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Come come, come back to that now one of the
other I mean, have so many classic moments. One of
the classic moments is like the first time I got
to see Wu Tang all together.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I gave it so early. Ghost Face had like a dog.
He didn't even have the usually one of showing the
space then.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
And I watched that interview. It's so funny to me
because I know when you're coming up in the street.
The street taught you at that time not to look
at the camera, like to be like, you know what
I mean, all of them is doing the same exact thing,
but you and Ed is holding it down conducting.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You're talking about when I had the karate gig, the
karate gill on and that was propable.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
No, no, that's second time. That's the first time I
had him on.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
At that time, them niggas was ready to kill me,
my nigga. The niggas did not think that was funny
at like, I'm behind him kicking in the air and
bun yeahs was not happy son.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Oh. But that was after they blew up. That was
after they brew nigga.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
And the only thing that saved me that day is
Meth started laughing.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
When Meth laughed, everybody eased up.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
They grey Kawan told me this, Jeers, we was really
wanted to fuck you up right right there. But that
probably the second town, the first time I met these niggas.
Fucking hilarius. I'm on Joe's Beach. It's the Greek Fest
on Jones. I remember we used to go to Greek Fest
Jones Beach. I'm Jeans Shawts Tams straight New York Yankee
hat wife, beat up. Nineteen niggas surround me yo and lover.

(43:33):
I'm like, yo, what's good. We're the wou Tang clan.
I was like world standing down in Brooklyn. We in here, yo,
we won't give you our tapes.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I see the Rizza and I said, I know you
Prince Rock video.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
We love you Rocky. Them niggas lost, No, it's the
fucking Rizzle Now. They wasn't associating with that Prince Rock
kshit that she was trashed to them. I did not
recognize that Jena because he was on GAFEIC. I said,
the gens, but they didn't really want to associate it.
They were like, nah, we're the wool Tang clan. We'll
get you all tape, my nigga, you know what I'm saying.

(44:06):
Blah blah blah. So they gave me the tape and
it was protecting that on one side and the other
side was method.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I remember getting in my car playing this tape and
it's the most incredible ship I had ever heard in
my life.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I was like, how do.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
They seamlessly make these many people sound out sound like unit?
It was nothing like it? And damn all Right after that,
they were the very first guest we had on when
we signed on to do Hot ninety seven Morning Show.
Claim was our first guest. Wow, first guess.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
The way it's from the music matched that exactly. Yeah, energy,
but that's the Rizzord.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
That's the genius of sequencing from the Rizza understanding who
sounds best right behind other people. I've asked him a
question before. He told me he has a version of
Dream that's him in ghost face.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's them too, but he probably like no.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
But when he put Ray and Deck on it, he
heard it, he said that sounds better than us. I'm
taking us off. So as a producer, how do you
have so much love for your clan that you're willing
to not shine so that they could shine? He said,
their verses sounded better than what me and Ghost did,
So we took me and Ghosts off the ship.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Wow got out really and I believe Rizard and Ghost
is like the only ones that's really family like even.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Doing family by married by married my children, my children.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
You had a lot of kids, Yes, yeah, yeah, yes,
with yeah, God damn they love sounded crazy sound to
be too.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Did you ever see you ever got to see uh
Woo and Nas show together?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yes that I buy merch. I'm just a fan man
our asks for ship.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I want to go.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Backstage and say how the niggas and just being in
the presence of them, and they're so fucking funny because
what they sound like on the record if you just
around them, that's how they talk to each other. Yo, God, Yo,
peace God. Like all the skits and ship, they the
same ship. Bro, It's the same ship. And even when
they did the TV series, the young dudes that played them,

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when they were around each other, they.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Talked to each other like they were in character.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yes, I told you, just had me scared of death
and out there he had had Japanese whiskey and vodka
and I.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Was like, I ain't fucking with you because that do
not go together at all.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Yeah, he had had he had Yeah, Yamazaki, I believe,
and he had great Goose and I was like, I
love Yamazaki, I love Hebiki.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
But I'm not mixing him with no great Goose. Non
haveving hell no, hell.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Now, i'mna ask you a question that you asked yourself earlier.
You ever thought the hip hop and make it this far?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah? I did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I never thought that I would be this involved in
hip hop or even even have people call me o
g uh, call me an icon. I never thought that
would happen for me, and I'm so grateful that it did.
But I just knew that hip hop or something special,
and I knew that all them cats like. I remember
we interviewed Bruce Willis and he's like, hip I ain't
gonna do this. I ain't gonna Yeah, he didn't like
hip hop. My father didn't understand this. My father was like, what's.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
All that deep?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Anybody can do that? I'm like, Dad, this music is poetry.
It's the last poets. It's Gil Scott that you've played
in the house for me a million times. It's pig
meat Markham. Y'all played picmic Markham for me when I
was a kid. He was rapid. Here comes to Joe,
here ye, here ye to call the swing. I'm just
about ready to do my thing.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
That's wrap.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And it went just we took it and we did
something else with it. We took something from nothing at
all and made something special out of it. So I
knew once it went that it was the youth movement.
It was the youth music. It's never gonna go anywhere,
never going anywhere. Hip hop will never die never.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
So let me ask you we used to it earlier.
Change the subject for a second. Now you guys blow up.
You guys get the chance uh to do this movie.
I think it's new line.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
You got new line, who's the man? Three? Three pitch
of deal?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Yeah, three pitch of deal. But what made you say
I'm gonna stick with Ted? Demi as opposed to going
with Bread because because Ted put me on. He put
me on.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
He had did a movie, a short film when he
was in film school, and he put me on. So
we went in and fought with new line, We're not
doing this movie.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Unless Ted directs it. Wow. Because Ted put me on.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Bro Ted is the reason why I went from a
high school safety officer in Andrew Jackson High School to
being worldwide known the next fucking year. That's because of
tag Ted. Ted pushed the green light. Ted's the one
that said, I want this unknown guy named Ed Lover,
and I want this guy named doctor Dre and this
is what I want. And he fought for me, even

(48:57):
in the early days when we were a half an
hour and they was trying to make all these adjustments
to the show. Ted fought for us. Ted and Peter
god Rest both they souls. They fought for us. So
it was a no brainer for me to say it's
Ted or it's nothing. And what was Ted Roller?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
MTV?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Ted was executive producer You on TV roll Wow and
for he was a producer first, and then he was
executive producer of Young TV Raps, and then you know,
he just became a big film and television director throughout
his career. Died way too early, too.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
And wasn't the show one of the highest rated shows
on him the highest rated show in the fucking history
at MTVS. Don't let me tell you. Don't let them
tell you no, only different, right?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And what fucking pissed me off when they did the
fiftieth anniversary of Hip Hop and NTV did that thing.
They didn't invite us, they didn't mention it, they did
say ship. I don't know what the fuck is wrong
with them. We've been trying to do our own documentary.
They won't fucking loan out the footage and ship. It's
just say they be on some bullshit.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Bro Let me ask you, what would Who's the Mad
Movie look like?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Today? And all the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
At one point I said, if I did a Who's Too,
I would want my man from Saturday Night Live, the
Due Order Impression, Keenan Keenan to play Dre's son. Right
after drum line, I was thinking Nick Cannon to play
my son and somebody would kidnapped Dre and I'm like

(50:22):
a captain or a lieutenant now, and then they rookies
following our footsteps to find out where Dre is. I
can see that then, but now with all the young
young cats in it. But now you got great cats
like DC, young Fly and all all them cats that
I'm so fucking.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Can still blame. Even though he looks your age.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Right now, he gives me your age age and out
of your neck just right, keenan. So I heard that
Dre didn't get his name because everyone thought either.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Doctor Dre better for doctor Dre or doctor for doctor.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well, thank you to doctor Dre from the West Coast
because we got to try to Russia because of doctor
Dre from the West Coast. Because they call our manager
at the time, Charlie Stetler, who played Beca and Crush
grew Wow and was the Fat Boys manager. That was
our manager for a long time. They called him thinking
he managed doctor Dre from the West Coast, and they
wanted him for the ship called the Festival of the
White Knights in Russia where it only gets it sounded

(51:20):
wilding me. I was like, that sounds so clanning ship yeah,
what happens is it only gets dark for an hour
and then the fucking sunshine again in Russia. So he
was like, no, but I got doctor Dre and ed
lover from your on TV raps and okay, bring them
and then we bought salt and pepper and fucking uh
your man vanilla ice with us and we just fucking

(51:43):
had a great time. And that's because of doctor Ray.
But Dre got his name from doctor doctor d J,
doctor J, doctor J because Dre was a little chubby
ball boy. For the next when they were in Long Island,
is he also an Andre? He's Andre Andre Brown. Yeah,
both of the may both Andres. But you know, man
doctor Dres mac Dre right, Yeah, all kind of trades

(52:04):
were not that many.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Doctor Dre's not that many doctors.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And back then, especially back then, you would be confused
without social media.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
And when I was on the radio, I almost sent
a cease and desist letter to a radio person no
Atlanta called Chris Love.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I was like, this, niggas not used on Love on
the radio.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
It's only gonna be one because I went about it
the right way. I asked scoop and scrap, I could
I use love a scoo. You don't just buy the
niggas shiit no ask. They was like, nah, go ahead.
I was like, cool, this nigga pop up Chris Love
of Love. I was like, oh, hell fucking know. And
then it turned out to be Luda Chris. So I'm
so glad.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
I didn't know that s been mad at me where
everybody's little some stills like, how many decades of littles
have we had?

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Artists?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh my god, Little's you know killed me with the
who I thought should have been little I love the motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
But Big Sean.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
The first time I met him, I was like, how
you Big Sean? Yeah, maybe he didn't want to be
little Sandy. Yeah, mad littles, little baby is not like Lily.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
They would face that out by now. But Littles is
still going. He's still going with Matt going for a while.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah you j Young hold Jay still throw Young hout.
I like it took all the d's, the littles in
the young, but but who's the man going back?

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Was the obviously the focus always to do a movie
that was going to expose all these artists, put all
these arts.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
That was something that Dre and I said, we wanted
to remember. I don't know if y'all remember Gumball Rally
back in the days, all them since used to have
all these cameos, all these cack ball cannonball, cannonball run
and all that. Even on like the airplane joints. They'd
be mad cameo. So we was like, we have this opportunity,
let's give all these rap art stuff. Was a muster roup.
You know who was supposed to be in it. It

(53:54):
didn't didn't show up. No Mary j Block. Mary's supposed
to sing at the funeral. Oh, I don't know what happened,
but we was there all day. They confined Mary. So
we're like, like, look, you're singing full for you're already
in the movie. Mary was supposed to be in that ship.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
To this day, if you're a hip hop fan and
you watch it as a man, you still notice people
that you're like.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Oh, I know that was him, Like you know what
I mean, this day it was iller because you don't
you don't see these people camera all the time.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Okay, I think I was still a lot of people,
but it wasn't prevalent everywhere. But you're absolutely right, But
to me, it's Ellen now because like you said, I
knew these people voices, and now with the Internet, now
I know how certain people look like Like I really
didn't know how n w A looked for a long time,
you know what I'm saying, because I didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I was in privilege to see their videos. But when
I watched Who's the Man, I'm like, Damn. I still
to this day, like, Damn, that's who that was right.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
There crossing that ship, right we had which with bell
Ice team Love. How the fuck did you get all
these people? As them just.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Asked, had just reached down to ask everybody? Nobody said no.
Everybody said yes it was. It was just that simple.
Everybody's like, yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
And Guru too, Yeah recipes?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Was there anyone who said no?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Recipes?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Cypruss is in it too?

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah? Be real? Be real, is my man thom Yeah?
Be real as hell. Man. I I went to l
A one time. Be real. Uh invited me to one
of the Tolo barbecues.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
So yeah, one of them like in the hood, hood
like straight like Mexican mafia type ship. When niggas sitting
on the porch with a shotgun. When I pulled up
and the nigga looked, and then some nigga walked to
the gate, you know, like when the baby Joker looking
biggas and scared you sh whole head got a spider

(55:51):
that kind of ship he walked me. You know, Homie
had lover it right. I'm like, yeah, I got a
fucking great time with them, had ball. And then when
I was getting ready to go back downtown, the niggas
surrounded me in their calls to make sure you got it,
wrote me all the way back downtown, and then be
Real calls me and goes, yo, it was one of
the homegirls in there that.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Kind of like you be.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I'm like, no, I'm not, no, no, no, be Real,
I might be one of them niggas, baby little little joker,
just a little something.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I'm not fucking with them niggas, No, sir.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Do you ever realize like the love you got, like
you know, by you playing is nutube in the time
where life wasn't nutu, but you was being newt you
in that time and it's somewhat I'm not not somewhat.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
It gives you like I've never like And you can
tell me if this is if I'm bugging out or
I'm exaggerating, like.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I've never really seen somebody.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Mad at that lover like, and.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I don't think you will either, Wow, because I'm on
my fucking business.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Bro. Even if i.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Have a conflict with somebody about something, I'm always the
one that say, Okay, let's talk about it, and we
can talk about it, we get past it. I think
that's one of the traits I got from from my dad,
you know what I mean, if it ain't your business,
it doesn't directly affect me, on my family, on my kids,
It really ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
So I didn't get involved in that ship.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I was a little upset that Park didn't come to
Stretches funeral. I was upset and me him and I
talked about it was in New York. It was in
New York, okay, And that was one of the ship
was what Park was his daughter's godfather and so on.
My so I kind of felt a certain way about it,
you know, And you spoke about Pa about that. We spoke, Yeah,
we talked about it. That's when she told me that

(57:34):
he liked me because I stepped a pack as a man.
He said, you know, we could have beat the ship
out here. I said, yeah, I knew it, but he
was like, you came as a man. I was like,
leave him alone. He got something to say, leading nigga alone.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
What's the biggest difference between Tupac a Digital Underground and
Tupac death Row.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Tupac death Row was coming into his own as an artist.
Tupac Digital Underground had to stand behind Digital Underground. You know,
he only really had that verse when the client around,
when the clown around. He was coming into his own
as a solo artist right there, able to express himself
to the heights that he wanted to express himself.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
But he did have the two albums before. It was
the two or three before death Row days.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
It was like two.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I think it was I think a big part of
the difference.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
I mean, you knew him, but it seemed also the
jail time too, you saw different side of them after
the shooting changing.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
I always forget the shooting and then jail. I always
forget that part. I forget the shooting and the jail part.
All I say is Digital Underground. I always forget shooting.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Was a fan of Park coming out of out of
Digital Underground and his first albums were amazing.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
To me strict yeah, tw apocalypse now, Apocalypse.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Now, and then you know he had the shooting with
the cops and all that, But he was he was
a certain version of himself. And then after the Quad
studio stuff, then jail and then death Row, that seemed
like a different person a little bit to me from
outside looking in.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
It's he was growing as an artist, right. People got
to realize he was young, super young, I said, And man,
every time, every time I talk on on about Tupac,
my nigga, I get so much Tubac hate.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Both kids hate it on too.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I love that nigga with all my heart and soul.
We broke brand in my mama's house with this dude.
I don't understand how people could say that I ever
hated Tupac.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I didn't. I'm just not gonna believe.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
But people try to tell me about Stretch, I'm just
not gonna believe it. Like we say, you're not gonna
believe Chris Lighty, I'm not ever gonna believe Stretch set
pop up in the Quad.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I'm not buying that. So you said that was because
I did. I never heard that room, man, If I
did hear that the nigga Dexter I think his name
is Dex Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
He was one of the dudes that ran in on
Tupac trying to make a name for himself.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
For some reason, he wanted to say Stretch has something
to do with it.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
And I'm like, come on, I'm not believing. I'm sorry,
I'm not gonna believe it. I'm just not that's my dude,
I'm not gonna believe that.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Ship.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
But it's always niggas that wasn't dead, that's the shit
that killed me. It's always some twenty nineteen year old
nigga hit me on my DM and I'm to ask
you how old were you? I'm ninety teen. And Pop said,
that's a nigga. You wasn't dead. Shut the fuck up.
You wasn't dead, nigga. I can't talk. All I can
talk about is what I seen. That's all I can

(01:00:17):
talk about. I can't talk about what I didn't see.
I can't talk about an error. I can't tell you
what fuck David Ruffin. I wasn't around the nigga. Come on,
does these thigga want to tell me shit? Nother shit
kill me? That kills me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Bro It kills me. I lived the gifted life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I love that dude with all of my heart and soul.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
And the last thing we said to each other when
he was coming out of that hotel and I at
the Betty Boot Bar with fucking Goious, Bishop Donon and
all of them they got they try to give me
a home, they try to get me a hole. I
don't have the capacity. And we talked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
We talked, and he said, are you come to Son's Club?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
And I was doing something for Chris Latimer on that night,
and I was like, yeah, I might stop by. For
the back of my mind, I'm like, it's the East Coast,
West Coast beef, y'all get drunk. You're gonna beat the
ship out of me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I'm not going over Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, a Vegas that night and I said, I love
you bo. He said, I love you too, walked out.
I ain't never been on no track that park was
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
By the figure everybody she kills me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
It hurts me too. I wish niggas wild stop doing that, right,
but yeah, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
You want to explain it on the game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
By the way, part of me wants you to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Just the this or that talking about coming.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Part of me wants you to drink some of this,
but then the other part does no. I just want
to be selfish and just drink this dog. This is
because this is so good man, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
My god, I want you to say that. Mama, Mama, Yeah,
you're ready, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
So well, you know you know the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Then you know the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
If I don't take one of the if I go
neutrog I still got to yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And then you know this is not meant to this nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I hope nobody gets some stack because'm gonnanswer honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Your stories to any story stories you got TUPAC or
d m x PO.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Okay, I know he's gonna say that this one, this one,
I think we skin a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
But X is one of the illest niggas that everly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You got any crazy story with x X. I had
X when I was a member. I went to Power
one of five yes, and they bought a starmbuck wild.
At the end of the morning, I went to the afternoon.
They still had me on the contract to do the
morning in case the niggas do something crazy, and they
did against interview, and that's how I ended up back
on in the morning. But remember when I was in
the afternoons, I had Oprah. Yes, Jamie Fox took that up,

(01:02:43):
so I had Oprah. So X comes in the afternoon.
So I'm asking x X, how'd you get there? I drove,
I said, you just got arrested. Fucking drop that I
got a call ding my ship definite and he had
to share with him, not to sure. It was his
first wife. So the niggas standing there and he's telling
me this ship. He goes, yoh, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
You know, music is playing. We just talking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
You know. The first time I ever met my wife,
I told her I loved her, right, maybe first night
I ever met her.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
She's like, yeah, he did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
He told me love it. I said, Dad, to get
the pussy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Then I realized.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Then I realized that I really did love her. I
still got the pussy. Told me that nigga told me,
say yo, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I was going I did what they really want for
the bitches. I did that song and I took the
ship to death jam and it was like, yeah, it's good,
but you need somebody to sing on this ship. This
shouldn't sound good. And I was like, well, who you're
gonna put on there, what we're gonna do. The nigga said,
le's let's get the nigga Cisco. He's on the label Lazard.
I didn't really you know the nigga, you know, you
know the nigga the blonde head. I didn't know what

(01:03:51):
the nigga was like, you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Is a character? Yeah, he genuine as a motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
I tell you, crazy X is my dog is this
big X came over my crib and made my dog
a pit bull. I promise you, t cup yokie, this
nigga DNX, it's on film. I promise you it's on film.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
He's this big a DMX came to my dog and
was like, m and I've never seen this in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
My dog was like, I didn't even know he had
those teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
That's how X is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Okay, Nas or jay Z queens no, okay, alright, cool,
I miss no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Jay J to me is the probably one of the
greatest living rappers right now, because I'll say this about
J and NOAs Nas is an artist artist. Like when
Nas did the ESCO ship and niggas started clowning him
about the ship. He finally realized that I'm going to
do a lot of arts a lot of times. NAS
don't give a fuck if he make a record album

(01:04:54):
with a radio single on it, right He's going to
make the music he wants, he wants to make. He's
from Queens, so I'm going I'm going with but Jay
is incredible. If Jay made a record right now, everybody'll
be like what he jumped on?

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
What we And you know what I like about both
of them. All of the latest materials sound like them now? Yeah,
don't sound like them then? And I mean that in
an accompliment because absolutely, yeah, absolutely when he did the
four forty five four four.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Jay did? Who did that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I always told Jay I always loved the more more
introspective Jay than any other j because he's a lyricist
and I loved him, like when he did the pop
Love Me raised Me that ship. They get prospective Drake
jay Z. That's the jay Z I love the most.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Yeah, they're updated verses of themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Wu Tang or n w A Wou Tang Woo Tang
and I love n w A but EP two albums. Yeah, yeah,
Wu Tang and the reason why I say Wu Tang
is because of what spawned off of Wu Tang, and
it's access that everybody that spawned off of Wu Tang had.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
If you do that, then you could do that. Lem
as a legitimate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Easy was first and then Dre of course, Cube of
course it's a great it's a great argument.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
There's a two do it the Colombian and the Dominican
over there. Those are the two of these questions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Tracked the Leniens to Kendrick from n W A absolutely,
you know, absolutely l L or Big Daddy Cane ship
take a shot. I can't. I gotta say l Man
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I love Kane, but I got longevity counts right, Yes, yes,
that that new album is still fire.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I gotta go l L new album. Yeah, Okay, okay, yeah,
it's fine. Ready Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Lauren Hill or Missy Elliott Lauren Ya none against Missy.
I love Missy. I love Missy. I mean I love
Missy too. I took Missy down, so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I look, I take it down. She know I love them,
she knows I love my wife. You know I love Missy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Come on, I took definitely love me miss miss beautiful
beautiful bro. I like the big Missy too, a little chubby.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I like to hear he has God's back. That's the
one for me, sir. Hell yeah, I love miss I
love you, beautiful missus love. I love you, baby, Red
Man or methey Man, drink.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Let's drink on that baby. They drink to me, meth
Red is one of the most underrated rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Ever than me. Red Man, you said, Red is one
of the hell He's one of the Illis bro and
both of them together, their kindred spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Man a little my nigga one time? Oh God, you said,
you said, story or let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'm a l a. They playing the House of Blues.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Remember the House Blues down Sunset Nor Remember that ship,
remember that if she was right there. So the niggas
called me, they'll come hang out with us. We're doing
the House of Blues. They right across the street at
the fucking hotel. I'm in the hotel with them. Why
did I decide I'm gonna smoke weed with these niggas.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Why did that? Don't tell me it was dust? I
know what done. I never been dust.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Now I smoke weed with them niggas and we go
across the street. They send the Sprinter to get the niggas.
The niggas like, fuck that Sprinter House of Blues is
right there. We're walking across the street. We just fucking
walking out in traffic on sunset. We don't give a
fuck the high as fuck. We get backstage, they get
ready to go on. I said, I'm gonna go in
the audience and watch the show. I went home.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I was so fucked up. I went home. The fucking
leg was no know where I was at. I went
the fucking fun bred man and member and many and
niggas always got this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
With us that we just we just not on each other.
We see each other. It's not like a hello, It's
not like yo, what's good? How the kids just always
look at this big note taking those with boxing gloves,
fans nigga That's what to this day, That's how we are.
So I can't choose between them two.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I would expect that Gangstar or Eric being rock Kimp.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Ericbing rock Kimp okay, and only because Rock Kim is
probably one of the most important mcs we have ever
seen on the faces earth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
He's the god MC.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
He put words together his lineage. If you go look
at Rock Kim's lineage. Nas is on that tree, Jay
is on that tree, Big is on that tree, Guru's
on that Wrapped is on that tree.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
That everything was aggressive before. Rocky is on that tree.
Is definitely. We've had a lot of people from Nigga
you on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
The tree, a lot of people from different parts of
the country, from the West coast, from the south that
you would have thought and they would say, Rock Kim,
They're part of that lineage as well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I love when we have people from.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
The West Coast and then they give us the top
the top five and they and top top three of
them usually is the real mcs from back then.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Yeah, Rock Kim is is dumb important, you know right?
He said ship. Yeah, and then he said ship.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
That made me say what my name is? Rod Kim
inlaw and RRA A stand for Rod spinning around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
It still comes out on and it does like what
the fuck the seven of them season?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
The line is one of the fucking you know one
of them? Yeah, takes seven more before yeah, twenty one
and I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Like the out Yeah, And he was gangster without without cursing,
absolutely and without saying gangster ship.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Just think about it, like back then, people used to
be like, yo, uh, don't let their kids listen to
rap because of the curses.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
It was never because of the content. People can't really
understand metal for us.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
So Rock Chim is probably only people that kids was
listening to, and parents wasn't catching on that this was gangster.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Yeah yeah, absolutely, he's still He's still one of my
favorite dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Man. I remember I had this Gucci chain on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Big stupid Gucci Linguae ship hollow as the motherfucker I
bought off the ad.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Right ship was huge. I'm supporting this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
So I'm around Eric, b Rock Cam, their whole crew,
Supreme Magnetic all them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
So them niggas is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
The Puerto Rican Supreme Magnetic right and fifty with them real.
So the nigga tell me, you know, I was gonna
get you for that chain.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
I was like, what what was that? You know how
I get down?

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I'm about to get you for that change, But Eric
and Rod said, you know that's my man at level,
leave him alone. I said, so, fifth, what the fuck
do you think it was gonna be the oe coming?
You're robbing me like you think you're just gonna rob me?
And I was gonna be okay with it, like the
are you talking about? But the nigga told me he's
gonna rob me. Thank you Eric being rock camp and
got the locks of Run dmc oh, come on take

(01:11:54):
a ticket shot, Yeah, come on. Longevity plays a part
of it, but the Locks have more longevity than Run indeed.
But they the most important motherfuckers that ever happened to
me because if it wasn't for them agreeing to do
that pilot, I would have never been on your own
TV raps talk about man hell yeah, man, oh my god.

(01:12:17):
Super important to me, super important. The queens the period,
you know, so geez, the first ones on MTV, the
first ones on Rolling Stone, They did live aid like
on it was doing stadiums. I remember I did a
commercial with Run. It was when Beats first started their
streaming service before they sold it to Apple, And a

(01:12:41):
lot of people don't know that's what Apple actually bought.
They bought the streaming service and took their headphones and
gave very like a billion dollars in Jimmy I V
and all them right, But it was the streaming service
because they had the infrastructure already, and Apple wanted the
streaming service so they bought that. So me and Run
did a commercial together that actually aired in the Super Bowl.

(01:13:01):
And I asked Run, I said, who was your stiffest
competition when you was rhyming?

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
He said, we did Peter Piper and I said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
We got one and he said, I got it from
fairy Tale Lover from UTFO the song fairy Tale Lover.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
And I said, d we need to make a song
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
So we started writing Peter Piper, Pig Peppers and Run
rock Royn and he said I thought we had him,
and he said that Nigga LLL came out with I
Need Love. He was like this motherfucker right here. And
then I asked him another question. I said, care us
one disc y'all subliminently, hechers wear crowns.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
The teachers stay intelligent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Talking silly Rhyn's on the mic is still relevant, especially
when you not college material.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
That was a diss to Run dmc jans wear crowns.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I'm the king of rock, but teachers stay intelligence here right,
So I asked Run, why didn't y'all say something about it.
Run said I was doing stadiums and he was doing clubs.
If I would acknowledge him, I've been pulling him up
to my level. I said, okay, that makes sense. And
then he said, and the nigga was nice me, and

(01:14:07):
they didn't want to fuck with that. That nigga was nice.
Podcasts of radio, podcasts, podcasts, and I'm on the radio
and I'm staying and I have my own podcasts. Come on,
come on, podcast, I'm gonna tell you why radio have

(01:14:28):
to stop operating like it's nineteen ninety three or eighty
three or eighty seven. They need to go to the
FCC and say, after a certain time, we need to
be able to say what the fuck we want to say,
because that's the reason why people come to podcast because
you could say whatever you want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
You could be as raw as you want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
You could be as opinionated as you want to be.
You could be who you want to be. That's why
they're trying. These companies that have radio stations are investing
in podcasts because podcasts is raw.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
As you see television change.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You get the ship roll you get, you know, you
get the House of the Dragons and crazy ship like that.
You get dext you get the ship that Dion Cole got.
You know, the average Joes. It shows like that. It
ain't the cosmis no more, and radio is still dealing
with it in that manner. And they don't want to
make stars no more. Radio used to make stars. They

(01:15:20):
made flex a star, They made Me and dre and
and Lisa stars. They made Angia star, they made the
Breakfast Club stars. They not want to They don't want
to be invested in that because they don't want to
pay no fucking body.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
So podcasting all day, bro. It's funny the way you
say the uncensored part, because that's why Pirate Radio, at
least down South so big. That's right that we took
it was radio, but it was uncensored doing we want
to do it Luke or Oconelly ockets from Queens. But

(01:15:55):
I'm gonna say Luke. I'm gonna say Luke because Luke
was the first dude that I saw that had his
own resting plants, his own trucks, his own everything. He
was Motown before Motown.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
And Luke gave us Trick Daddy, he gave us pit Bull,
he gave us two Live Crew, wrest Brother mar Keys,
Poisoned Plan. All that Luke is like to me, one
of the most important label owners before anybody else. Luke
had no middle man. It wasn't no Arister above him.
It wasn't no Sony above him. It was no Interscope
above him. Everybody else had a boutique label. Luke had

(01:16:27):
his own real fucking record label. I used to watch
the niggas press his records up in the warehouse, sleeve them,
wrap them and put them ships in the truck and
go out across the country and on the Luke record,
Luke Skywalker records before they got them for the Skywalker ship,
and and and take that ship all over the place.
Plus Luke's for for our rights to say what the

(01:16:48):
fuck we wanted to say on how.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Luke. Absolutely, we just had Luke go on ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
That's talking about don't get dilly.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
I love Luke talked about he took advantage of all
the Caribbean and all the pressing plans being here for
the Caribbean and for because he did took advantage of it,
was l.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Two coming long, not be He's a legend man. Yeah,
arranged me for the petty oh yeah, big up dog
and Luke and I played in the same playground because
I came down here and KOD's and all that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
So okay, absolutely, I remember. Get to the airport. We
come down here to do the look shop a week
work for your TV rats were looke. We come to
the airport and it's limo for Ed Love, a limo
for doctor Dre, a limo for T Money, a limo
for Ted Dinny. We got four different limos. So I
get in the limo and there's two naked girls in
the back of the I get out the limo pulling

(01:17:42):
my pants up, and she getting out the limo, both
of them. So no, Luke said, we with you for
the night. God, bless you little thank you, very God.
Sell the fucking right. Moved something nine times in the row.
He was moving money. I'm moving some of that, my wife, Baby,

(01:18:02):
I'm keeping a real mob deep or m O P
mam Okay, I love m O P too. Billy and
Fame two of my favorite dudes to be around, because
they're just such great dudes. And it's it's wonderful to
see m ops growth right, like they've grown men. Now
they got family. It's great. Like the niggas was scary,

(01:18:28):
m O b was scary niggas, but Mom, because you know,
Havoc is so ill and recipes and lifetime in between
the papers.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Lines on the quiet strong niggas who fight rounds p
y you heard of them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah a mob deep bro Peper or
jj Fad Salt and Pepper all day. That's not even close.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I love JJ Fat too, but you don't have the history,
the amount of hits and all that ship that Salt
and Pepper had, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
To push it video push Yeah, ain't get up. I
was at that video said push push it, get up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Everybody get up. My nigga acts Trench. Did you trust
tell y'all introduced him the Pepper? Did he tell us
that nigga? I had a crush on Pepper? I sent
Pepper teddy Man flyers on telling Yeah, she didn't like me,
how about I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
She liked Trench, So what's at the screen break? And
she was like, what's up with Trash?

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
And I was like, but what's up with me?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
He's like trash?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
She liked trash and I was like, yo, treusch Pep
want to holler at you. And then Pepper turned around,
introduced me to my first wife, and me and Trench
laugh all the time because none of this shit worked out.
We do get vid, We got beautiful kids out of
the wet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I wasn't ready for the explanation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Click rigger Andre three thousand. God damn drinking drinking because
I gotta take in long chevity.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I'm drinking. I'm drinking three thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Ain't doing goddamn three thousands one of the ellis. But
slick Rick has been sampled, probably as a rap artist
more than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Like his voice.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
He almost James Brown a rat. Yeah, absolutely, and that
Great Adventures of slick Rick is such a fucking moment
I feared he's still doing it crazy. My favorite slick
Rick shit is uh uh. The pussy started going and
he grabbed his clothes. He wanted to leave this place.
At the first he wanted to see the vagina face
to face. He opened it up with his bad two

(01:20:30):
Dumbeys hall crabs with speeds and then.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Nobody can do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Everybody that does double rhyns, everybody that eat from sloop
to give me the loot, give me alu by Biggie
that do two different people is because of slick Rick.
And he gave us Dana Dane the Kingo Crew. So
I'm gonna give Slick his props all ways, but three
thousand had a longer Wait wait, wait tell him. I
threw a slick Rick and Dana Dane used to battle

(01:20:57):
each other. They were in the same crew called the
Kingo Crew. But they but but but wait a minute, they.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Were a crew called the Kingo Crew. Fan's right, Slick
Rick Dana day. Oh, we said they have beef.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
No, no, wow the niggas what ballet's in and you
know all them ship the fly Baallet's in the fly
green socks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Wow, you picked Andre? I have to pick Andre. He did.
Jeffuary the shot. We took a shot. Took a shot.
Don't bind me. I'm drunk. I want to make sure
we accurate. Okay, I took the shot. I'm all right.
Oh the symphony Hatbanger Symphony, he said that quick. Yeah,

(01:21:39):
like that symphony. The head bangers are pretty important too,
though very important.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
But but the symphony. No, no, absolutely, because there's no scenario.
But I'm gonna take I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna
take the symphony just because Kate said put a quart.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
In your ass and he played yourself. That was crazy
and it's one of the first possas like that, Yeah right,
fat as Scoop or Biz Markey rest in peace to
both rest poth them take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
I would never disrespect either one of them. This was
a friend. Scoop was a friend. School was a friend. School.
I put Scoop on the radio. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
People don't know that via not directly saying highest Scoop,
But Scoop worked for Tommy Boy and he would come
around with the big bottle of Scope all the time
and he would try to listen to this record, listen
to this record, and I say, brother, why do you
have this? Why do you got this? I just call
him big Scope and he was liked, brother, you gotta
be you got to be friends. You can't be talking

(01:22:37):
when you're talking to the program directed brother right on,
Brother solid goal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
At least say that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
So we took to go do a drop to say,
listen Andre at Lisa on the radio, fat Man School
right on Brother Solid Goal. And we started playing that
this Steve Smith rest in Peace and was like who
is that guy? And I was like, that's the guy
from Tommy Boy. Yeah, wow, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
And I feel terrible because we hadmunications for him to
come on and it's like a lot of people and
just never ends up happening.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Grand Dad, that you is my biggest thing, like that.
I wanted to make it happen. You didn't get you know.
That's my favorite rapper of all time. I heard you
say that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
I love grand brood Daddy. That's hard, right then, only
built for Cuban links A reasonable doubt ship, drinking, Yeah, okay, drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
I can't do that, and is that both day first person,
first solo album?

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
And Jay was right, we laying down on reasonable Now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
No, I ain't gonna lie to you. I always say
this on this show. I always say reasonable doubt went
over my head because I think I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Was broke at that time. Like maybe that for me,
for me, like not for you, but for me, because
he stays I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Wasn't broke, but I still wasn't doing the ship. He
wasn't laying to certain ship. And then years later I
was like, I get it down, but is it twenty
two that what he said?

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
He said a four point on a four point six,
You said forty grands, Oh my god, I can be there,
And I was like, damn, I didn't know there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Was a difference like the game was in my lifetime,
was like, what the fuck? Yeah? This yeah, no was
JA was ill man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
When Jay say we don't drive a file as we
get him the baby mothers, I was like, God, damn Niggasu.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Niggas out in the street.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Je niggas take from the range robe and take the
four point on plat off the back of the range
row because the four point six scrolls about forty thousand
dollars more.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
He made niggas actually.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Get a fuck if you had a four point on
you took to get ship off. Jay's influence on pop
culture is unmatched.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
And he made you wear throwbacks and he made you
take off. He made you wear the throw back and
then he took the ship off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
I don't wear throw backs from the first player jeans
Nigga buttoning.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Up, niggas buttoning up. We're all butting up. Jay z
s like no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Love hold man, whole man. That Nigga's social impact is readdigu.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah he stay in the Dominican section. Nigga, Hey, hey, hey,
we did speaking to a letting Mark Yo. We did.
We did powerhouse. We did a powerhouse one time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Right, So the Bentley Dealership I mean, I mean the
Mercedes dealership in Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Let me holding may Back for the night.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
So I come to the Powerhouse and I parked my
may Back downstairs next to jay Z's Mayback to my
ship right there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
So after the show, Jay go, Yo, who'se Mayback? Is
that right there? I say that that's me Hope. So, oh, Eddie, man,
I'll see what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Yo. Let's go to forty forty club. So me and
this nigga get in and day back to may Back.
I got me and my man d my assister were
rolling Jay and Beyonce another joint.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
We rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
We're going to forty forty club. Traffic is crazy going
through the Lincoln Tunnel. Jay rolling window around, he waving
that people. Nigg I rolled the window down and it's like,
fuck me. But I had to tell a nigga at
the night. We want you to know that's not my
may back. It's a loaner because the next time you
see me, I'm in a hot cord. Yeah, make back

(01:26:02):
that night in front of that that Eddie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
Do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
You ain't gonna see this ship tomorrow. A big L
Biggie L's life is cut too short. Yeah, big amazing man,
he would have been fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Yea. I ain't gonna take nothing away from Big.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Signed the rocket. Big he would have signed the rocket.
Oh my God, that whole was the children of the corn,
all them cam Him's bloodshed, God rest his soul.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
And Big l Niggas was lyrical right there, Bro's Big lyrical.
I watched it. It is what it is, what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Both still they still murder Mason. I'm I'm still waiting
for you to go in one day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
To drinks and look like, say want at first then
and I would say, y'all niggas inspired me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Chet this out though, Yeah, them niggas right there, man, Yeah,
Big Lay he was eighties or nineties hip hop nineties. Okay,
queens or Brooklyn queens all day. I knew that I
was born in Brooklyn, but it's going to be queens
all day. Who's the Man or Juice?

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Come on, you guys, are juice really? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Juice had a bigger impact than Who's the Man? Dad?
Whose man was dope? But Juice was better't I didn't
think that? Do you think how people say that they
think that drinking wrong? You think that Park playing bishop.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Really, people think he took on the former bishop. He
was already that way, right, That's when them young niggas
as seventeen and that's what they think. No, that was
already he was already on. That was he was always
going to be pop. Wow, it was gonna be No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
No. Juice was absolutely the catalyst that blew him.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
They just showed how talented he was. Absolutely right. Fat
boys are the beastie boys.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I'm drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I'm drinking and the only reason why I'm drinking is
because Charlie used to manage the fat boys and they
had an impact. They had a huge impact. I think
they don't get enough. People forget about them. People forget heavy,
and I don't know why they do that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
We were talking about heavy heavy then Biggie pun Yeah okay,
but have made it cool to be a big name.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah okay. After the fat boys was first, but fat
boys more novelty. They were not to say like that
because I loved the fat boys, but they wouldn't fly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
They was fat boys. They were fat boys. You you
were cool, fat boy. It was cool and it was
cool because I'm flop with all that stuff. I'm making
dance in France to you and pumps no way of me. You'
miss stuff, big stuff niggas like I'm big nigga. Yeah,
that's it's cool.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Heavy was flying fucked your big and Doss Sales went
to the room. Yeah, absolutely, Rochester big and but what
fat boys did? I think also for hip hop is
also entered the Hollywood space with this. They did, they
did like and they were image.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
They shotted that and then after that came Uh Canning
playing ship yep, and then right after that came Lo
was the Man.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
They opened the door for up. That's why I think
they're underrated and they deserve more props.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Analog or digital. Analog, Thank you analog, because digital is
any and everybody. Analog you had to be good, like
what analog. You had to spin three hundred dollars on
a two inch tape and you couldn't fuck the ship
up and you couldn't do it in your base We're

(01:29:49):
going to start with, right, You.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Couldn't do it in your basement.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
You couldn't get in the studio studio one hundred and
fifty two hundred three fifty an hour. Yeah, unless she
was at the ship and Queen or maybe DN d
Early you could have fought no fucking studio time, No analog. Definitely,
That's why the sale of vinyl is gone through the roof,
because analog is just better. It's better because you went

(01:30:13):
to the store to get the record. You went to
the store. I remember when get Richard died, trying came
out and Christmas my next door neighbor, but he didn't
even have a copy for me. And I was running
around the record store is trying to find trying to
find canes, long liveded Cane, trying to find that record
so I can have the hard copy. Y'all have look

(01:30:34):
a man, Remember you said about owning your music, throwing
around my record breaking up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
I remember the stuff you gave me on racks. I
still have it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
That ship means something to me. Like Bojo said, if
I don't pay my phone bill, I lose my music.
I own it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
It's it's a different thing. So I'm gonna go analog. Yeah,
I love that. I love that Kris Won or cool
Gie Wrap.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I'm drinking, okay, yeah, I'm drinking. I'm drinking only because
g rappings from queens. We drinking Boden and Chris is
one of the Ellis Niggas. Oh man, I can't treat
that both to riches.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
I feel like I'm cheating because as we go on,
the shots get smooth. They do not get harsher, they
get smoothly. That's an illusion.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Now we're pappy Pappy. I was just pat delicious. Yes,
it's delicious, red lure or kicking pree mm hmm. Drinking okay,
cheerious than send them two legends. Yeah I'm drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
For real?

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Or yeah, drinking? Damn Now I feel like he just
wanted to drink. Drinking drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Ain't telling us no stories and he's started for Oh yeah,
what yay?

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Me and my man Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Big up to my man Tom, one of my best friends,
one of the first ones to ever do parties in
Mars twenty one twelve, Yeah, we did a Latrell's free Well,
welcome to New York.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Can I stop me for one second?

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
Yeah, let me just describe what he just described to
you that Mars w one twelve, was that what year?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Can you tell us what year?

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Because I wanted to tell you And where's this place?

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
This is in New York City? This is New York Square, Right.
I couldn't get in this club at all. I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
I wanted to know what year is this is? It
is a welcome to New York LA Trou's Freewell just
signed to the New York Can you can you figure out?
So Paul on the sports LATREUS three well signing to
the New York next?

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Yes, what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
And outside the club was a young man by the
name of Kanye West that couldn't get in the party.
And he introduced himself to me, said, my name is
Kanye West. I'm ana producer. I produced for Rockefeller. I'm
over here, and what do I need to pay to
get in the party? And I said, man, you just
come on and you're down with hovering up?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Yeah, come on in? Yeah? And for real he was,
you know he was, you know, for real? Is the
motherfucker that wrote All I want to Do is that's
a classic classic right there? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yeah, you know, Teddy do the talent show to get
the niggas a deal and them niggas is producing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Teddy was taking the credit, you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Beef between tribing them. But yeah, that was crazy. That
was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Yeah, but I can't I can't choose Clips or dog
Pound Clips.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Push your t is one of my favorite mcs bro
and with him and Malas together, my nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
The ship them niggas was saying. The ship they were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Was real like drugs dealers, like real drug dealers. Knew
that they were telling the truth. It wasn't like making
up ship like you were telling me. You could tell.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
Like he was like he was like a print so
I could do this and that. Two little black niggas
fight like that. Like no, they were real and really quick.
Dog Pound new album is dope, and I'm looking forward
to the new Clips. Yeah, I heard about the Clips album.
I'm very excited.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I like when niggas don't stop making records, that's a
sign that got a new album out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
I love the ship. I just like when niggas just
don't stop, like.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
You don't outgrow and and are in general like the
other art form. They don't stop and still got ready
coming out while we got to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
One one is going to church and one is still
drug dealing. But they both went. You know what, that's balance,
that's balanced.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Malas is back announces performing again with his brother. Yeah, drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Anna sit, I feel like he's gonna be on that
rock ship, like it's gonna be hardcore.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Praising the Lord. I don't respect that. He ain't gonna
say no crazy ship. But he out in the clubs again.
I respect that too. Yeah, son, God bless you me
with you at least in the Louis guitar clubs. I've
seen him in there, Brand Nubian or Tripical Quest.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Try and there's nothing against my I got a personal
relationship with Lord Jamal.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
That's my man. My wife and his wife are really
good friends. That's my man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
But Tribe bro low in Theory Midnight Marauder's tribe bro
Tri Tribe was the Layman's Daylight Soul Tribe was more relatable,
you can because Daylight so ron patterns, was so fucking incredible.
But a lot of times he was like, what is
these niggas talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
And Daylight came technically first, right, yeah, just because said
I look acute.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
He say black and black, remember, Yeah. But besides that,
a lot of the ship to be like, what is
they talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
It?

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It's one of my favorite records, and I kind of
still don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
From you know what it is that we're all just
getting daylight now like all the props unfortunately that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
But we just get It's like they deserve everything they was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
What where everybody talking about relationship goals lots day that's
relationship goes. They could do whatever they were and none
of the niggas ever made a solo record, Positive and
Dove never went so long they did they together, They
could have easy, you know the way the Locks respect
each other to do their solo ship.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
But they're still Locks no matter what. They respect their
group more than they respect Yeah. Well yeah, but Jada,
them niggas get Jada and Style is getting that solo
money and she absolutely getting that solo money. Motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Jada is getting ready to come to Cobb County, Georgia,
cop Energy Center coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
I think in December with a symphony. Uncle Street'll be
there to shout out to Jada. Now that's Jada by
itself or the hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Of course the Locks will be there's Bill as Jadakiss
like Jadakiss pause in Panama with Jadakiss man doing some
ship with them for somebody didn't think Florida, Panama, Panama
and I got to hung out, hang out with Jada
and my nigga the ship that he was some of
the ship. He was telling me, like, Yo, I got
tired of get apart from my ship.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Like a lot of niggas didn't know until the beef,
until the day until the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Ship, people didn't know that that nigga rose. So what
you want to do? Only you know your DJ.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
A lot of the regular niggas ain't know that he
wrote that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Ain't know that that's well they got out of Dodge
the Rock or Rough Riders Rock Rock.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Jay z is too is to important access to because
X was like, what the only nigga that had to
number one album.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
In the same year, but he put up Yeah, last
question a quick time slime, did you get back to
the interview? Loyalty or respect? Respect? Why?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Because loyalty wanes depending on what you're giving. If you
keep giving, motherfucker's gonna be loyal to you. But respect
lasts a whole lot longer. Like me, I have been
respected for such a long time that I would rather
have respecting fake loyalty.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Loyalty sometimes comes at the courts. Respect pretty much does
to come at the court. So I would rather be
respected Okay, this makes a noise for that. Now. Is
it true you and miss Jones had a beef at
one point?

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Yeah, because she was with Staring Buck wilding them in
the morning, talking reckless about me and I'm don't want
to put it on the radio, but it's all going
under the bridge.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
But what happened, like I mean, especially if it's water
under the bridge and it's all gone. So what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
You put Miss Joe Jones came because she had that
way I want to be joint out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Yeah, And I liked her and I thought she was dope.
And I told Steve about her because she was up
there a lot and see Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:38:43):
Steve Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
And then she got with them and there was some
words said, you know about us when we was at
Power and they think they were still at Hot ninety seven, and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
You know, they took go on a beef for Hot
ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
They was for Hot ninety seven and me and Dre
and came back from LA and Wiz on Power. There's
some foul ship said, and I was like, remember I
got on the phone. I was like, Jonesy, we don't
own these stations. What the fuck are we talking about? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Now, but but you know it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
I remember at one point I could go to South
Carolina and they could hear me in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Immdiation, like they didn't have no beef.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Immediately when New York opened up another station beef from
the get on the gate, it was like it was
like bloods and grips, like like I mean, let me
not say that because if you have, because you went
to because that power. Okay, So this drive us the
situation because outside is looking in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
You guys to us. And I had beef with Murder
Height what the fuck? Yeah? How I had beef for
Murder Inc.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Because one of the dudes that they had signed to
the label had got shot and killed an ol'connell Park,
a young dude.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
I can't his name, God rest.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
And I said something, and I said, it's no disrespect
to death Row or Murder Ink, but there's a certain
order that's going to happen when you name your company
something like that. I said, death Jam was d e
F Jam, And I said, no disrespect. They went on
staring buck while trashing me. Wow on me, it's soft

(01:40:23):
murdy ruling, ruling, fucking herb.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
And I called my sister My sister was the receptionists
in Death Jam.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Oh Wow Wow song your numbers my sister and I
told my sister, I said, tell her I'm coming up
there to see him. She said, don't come up here.
Premump here all the time dreams with them. And I said, okay,
now it makes sense, right, Why yall niggas talking hard?
And but it's all water under the bridge because Ron Gutter,

(01:40:54):
who is John Ruth's best friend, it's my niece's father,
see how to work out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Came together.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
So then I just did the least Alsa Cold Jam
movie and Ron Goutn's a producer on it. So it's
all going under the bridge. Words get exchanged where they
really don't mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
But but but still, I know, I know it's water
under the bridge. But I want people to understand, how
cuci you? It was for New York rated because I
could give my part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
I had a record called Grammy Grabby was number one.
It was a shootout in front of hotinety seven. I
got banned in front of everything. I wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
You weren't even there, right, They just did that on
on TV one, You know that, right? No, I did
not know they just did the whole little Kim ship
about that. Yeah, they said you wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
I was not saying they said I wasn't there. Finally
you were there. They actually said, look like.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
And I was kind of pissed, but I was like,
why y'all ain't talked to a few more niggas that
were actually around that day?

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Yea, because I wasn't. He wasn't. But what I'm saying is,
so that shit happened.

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
I got banned from every radio station, even radio stations
that didn't like and it's broadcast at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
That's what it was, right, and it wasn't clear. Channel Right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
Still took their side, and Russell Simmons, who you picked
up earlier. Russell Simmons personally came went to what her name,
Tracy Clarity or Tracy because Clarity, Tracy Clary Church Clarity,
and said, you can't spank somebody for a person that
that wasn't there, Like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Know, you can't. You can't, right, they can't fault you,
you can't fault me. I became back number one because
Grimy was number one in the whole country. But when
Honey seven pulled my record and it's broadcast.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
It's set a thing. But then Power one five came
like a couple of weeks later. Remember Mike Cat Mike
Kyser saying to me, it's my boy, Mike. There's two
episodes in the world and talking. But everyone was saying,
we flipped the switch. I was the only artist that
technically wasn't allowed to say.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Just got back. Just so if you listen to Earler
early drops, I have all the early drops. So all
Power on Fire.

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Every single person that Death Jam, you know Death Jams
was enforcing this label. Was like, yo, we're not only
going to have you know Hot, We're gonna have this
laby and by the way, I'm gonna be honest. Power
on five first came out, people didn't think it was
going to work.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Right at all. It was the underground. It was the
anti Hot ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Flex got into a beef, right, yeah, because because I
was on Power and Flex was on and Flex was
on Hot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Yeah, got into some ship.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
Yea was yeah, I was okay, okay, Steph Love okay,
but y'all was friends before you and absolutely friends now, right,
So so what was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
The Steph Love us ship? He had him and Steph
got into something, and Steph was with us in power okay,
and they got into something about her being around there something,
Flex had words something. I was just on the radio like, yo, man,
you can't get on a girl like that. Then he
went on his show that seven o'clock wilding on me.
And then I just came back like dog like, let's
meet in forty second Street com squad, just me and

(01:44:13):
you are like I'm a fucking punch in your face,
like the fuck. And then we got on the phone.
It was like, Yo, we don't own these states. It's
like we're fighting up some ship that we don't own.
Like this ship is stupid, it's retarding. And Flex has
championed the ship out of me ever since I've been
back on ninety four to seven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
He is champion and that is the correct.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
No, that's a whole different that's Odyssey. Oh, that's company,
a whole different company. But Flex, it happens like that sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Man, who's who's on Odissey right now on that station
was on there, Siphon is dead, Miss Jones in the morning, okay, scratch,
Kelly Wade, me, DJ big Ben and we just lost
Missississist on fat.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Man Scoop had just started. Oh wow, yeah, we lost school.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
I never understood why these radio stations with beef.

Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
Like it was some s It was territorial. It was
never going to mount anything.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
But some of the talk was crazy. Talk was ridiculous,
like you should have expens shretened me and I threaten
niggas right back they doing crazy ship.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
It was we're going to get that. I don't play
with my family.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
And it was clearly at one point like if you
give you a record to Power.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
One O five, stay there like get that part.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
And then it was like you give you a record
to flex clue, ain't taking your ship. At one point
like and it was just like damn, like you really
had to draw a line. It was really like some
gang ship really had to go one.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
Over the other one. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
One of the first times I interviewed Nor as a
solo artist, he came to the station and the first
thing I asked him is due the Neptunes really got
a cockass fan because I thought it was all line
you know, run last around the English channel. Nettunes got
a Coga spank.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
I was like, dude, the niggas had a cops.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Crazy like I ain't got you say some ship like that,
because back then we were laying guns to dogs, so
we were saying back wilders and so if you listen
to the lyric, I said, Neptunes, I got a cocko
span you, meaning like I got the little due.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
But uh yo, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Realize that you were kind of like an influential your
rhyme pattern kind of influenced Ghost Face, not ghost.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Because he don't say any thing. Let's take a shower,
take a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
When Norman was one of the first niggas that would
say ship, that don't mean no ship, said.

Speaker 7 (01:46:45):
Quitted that my life, say the ship, but there the
colored felfy ropes to, like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Like, what are you talking? Norman? Was that nigga? Kick right? Norman?
Was that nigga the congo span your ship? Oh come
rord umberto? What's the fuck the Unberto like a Mexican
you would say Spanish? When he said it didn't even
make sense. I was like, That's what I'm saying. Yeah
he was trying. Yeah, nobody would conrect me in the studio.

(01:47:14):
I would always listen to him, like what the fuck
is Normy talking about? But I got it. So then
when I heard Ghosts, I was like, that's a lot
of norri right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Gloria said, ridiculous ship on records, but it was flying.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Ghost ship is flying.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
What my favorite ghost records is the Halla Halla, the
nigga rhyme with the niggas still singing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
On the records.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
The niggas like me, I'm coming you and this nigga's
rum man. I'm like, yo, she didn't give a fuck
was coming. All he did was come back in all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
I was like, Oh, this niggas hell, That's that's hip
hop for your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I put it together, put together, I put that together.

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
That's a lot of right there. So road call, did
you get y'all got that from the Baker Boy? Yes
we did, and I asked my mission, shout out to
the Baker Boys. Shout out to the Baker Boys all.
Steve Smith problem wanted to jack the ship straight.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
He just told, you're gonna say, this is what the
Baker Boys is doing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Listen to this, y'all should do this. I said, I'm
not doing it until I talked to them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Now, the bigger boys is in l Let's. It wasn't
there in San Francisco. L I went to l A
for a summer of ninety two ninety three and I
heard him doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
They were doing the road call, so Steve gave it
to us, right tape, listen to this, here's some work.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
In New York. I said, I'm not a bier nigga.
It was against the law, especially back then, right. I said,
let me call them, get him on the honorable man.
Let me ask, and they was like, yeah, y'all got
ahead to do it if you want to. I was like, okay,
let me put a little spin on it. And the
ship took off like crazy. I still got people that

(01:48:59):
walk up to me and like was on the road called.
I was like fifteen, like that ship was crazy. Shout yeah, man,
shout out to them. Many left, Yeah, man was legend.
They used to be used to play the trumpet. Mm hmm,
what the fuck is the trumpet.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
That ship?

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Yeah, trump bone? He said, trump bone. That's a clarinet
three three only three correct to be wrong? Oh yeah,
how you correct me twice?

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Wrong instrument? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
I played the trumpet for along. I was in a
funk band. B they I got Yeah, I love it
presents a lot mixtape.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
But then I was playing the instrument.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
They I got pictures of me in Pink Span Dex
boh Funk Ship, High Boots, Rick James Ship Confunction Ohio players,
Like that's that was mine on Guns and Roses ship.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Yeah, I was on some Rick James.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Ship, like for real, Like I'm still real cool friends
with all of them. And that's with ed love and
a mixed live mixtape band is just full circle for me.

Speaker 1 (01:50:07):
Three hundred and sixty degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
I got two fantastic singers, uh carry Outs and and
and my man shirt Wood.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
I got a full band, and I just do all arounds.
I do all around. I do j I do fucking
mind playing tricks on me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
But it covers.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
We do cover.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
That's dope. We do covers and everybody just come out
because it's it's it's for the people. I remember this
music when the music was pure, when the music was
was great. I do Nelly's ship. We do everything, man,
we just have a good time. We sold out, we
just came off the city Wanted Retort, sold out every
city and we're just having a fucking good time man,
just doing music. What is the newest MC right now?

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
I'm talking about new under ten years that I listen
to that that you at least like a song from
them or something.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Ship none.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Under ten years because I fucked with j Cole and
that young Lady three three D ninet. She's fucking dope
to me, man, snow a leg ru she's a singer, right,
n you know, No, because Young Thug been around for
more than ten years, right.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Ye, young dug?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Yeah, all the migos, I love them niggas. I was
surprised the niggas knew who I was when I met
him on TV raps jackets when I met him, no way. Yeah,
it's like my uncles used to watch your He look
at this ship like, I was shocked. They gave me
so much love. Young Thug gave me a lot of
fucking love.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
Really, Where was this? Where was this? That?

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
In?

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Uh? In Atlanta? I met him atlant Atlanta. But yeah,
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
The new new Okayli Chopper, the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Fucks with him?

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Yeah, and Complex left him off the list, and I'm
with him. I'm with him yet Complex, y'all wild and
Chopper but on my owner list maybe top five on
the list of twenty in the twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Yeah, he's not trash. No he's no, he's not at all,
and he got a character too. I love you know that.
You know what I love.

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
You Know what I don't like about someth all new
mcs is they give you them two three word answers
when they're doing an interview. Because if I like your music,
I actually want to like you as a person too,
because I don't want to appreciate the bot. I'm not
Ali Chopper. He's one of those guys that gives you
a full interview.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
He talks straight to you. You tell he's you know
what I mean? Whatever? Whatever? So damn I like Chop.
I agree with you. How about no, No, you said
that's it. I don't want to I don't want to
say somebody that you say something crazy interview.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
It's not nothing disrespectful. I'm sixty one years old. The
niggas don't make me like you know what I mean?
What's my man name?

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
Got locked up in Utah? Gonna be a young boy?
I like him too?

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Is that under ten years he might be like like eight,
ain't crazy as fun? Even nigga you need to talk
to to call him the funk down.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Yeah, yeah, he needs a nb A young boy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Yeah, he got a career if he learned not to
react to everything a nigga say to him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Females like I said, uh, wifey baby, she out of Atlanta.
She's out of Atlanta. Uh three three D I said,
And I like all, I like Megan, I like, you know,
I love fucking Cardi Man, car Is the Brons.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
And I think is really say I feel like I
feel like ed Love was a lot old person.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
I like a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
I think she's really like if she just let herself
go lyrically, it just really raped, wrapped away. I know
she can wrap the way I heard her rap with
Jamain first Ada, she could go with my nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
She got, she got bolls A lot of what was
signed the people. Yeah, Jamaine had on that on that not.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
The rap game, rap game, lot of dope, bro don't
don't get it. Fucked up of a lot of them, don't.
How about Ice Spice some Bronx niggas. New York. I'm
a rerap New York, New York. We saw Laura London,
Lady Lady London. Now she's sucking my nigga a boogie

(01:54:26):
with the hoodies.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Hey, boogie with a boogie with the hoodie.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
Is he's hot here?

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah, my man, DJ on my nine there used to
be my DJ. Hey, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, always with
the hoodies, DJ.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
My niggas out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
That nigga had me introduce him and in Chicago and lollapaloozas.
There's ninety thousand niggas out there. None of them niggas
knew who I was. He said, this is uncle ed
lover right now. Like after that was I was fucking
Golden's make a boogie shout out, Oh my nine man,

(01:55:00):
My Instagram went straight up.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Niggas, little niggas that this niggas every book. I'm taking
this shot.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
You got.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Got that? Hey you put me on? I like what
the young niggas put me on like that, son, And
it's how many shots we took to see you know.
So we're getting off. But but that pappy look at that.
Yeah yeah, that pappy. That pappy is so smooth. Can
I have some more place? Yes? Please?

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
A little I got This is how I know. That's
how I know you are O G O G. You
got the battery pack extra ship.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
God damn right, I got yo. So the apples ship.
They did you make that ship? Man? You gotta have
that ship, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
We always gotta talk about the come on. So now
I said, I want to go do this before we
get to come on son. I said that when I
do drink chances, I'm just smoking a cigar. May I
part take on one of them blunt? Now I must
wan you what ash hash? Old school hashn't smoke?

Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
Okay, yeah, none of you straight from blood, straight straight
all joint a joint.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Give me something old school no hash, no no hash.
Give me some straight weeds.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
You remember you remember straight human hash back that it's weed.
But the black weeds, the black yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cocaine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Give me straight, give me straight.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
You want to blood or you want to joint? I
want what? What is it like?

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Like the walk came, they got papers, they got papers,
old Give me to give you my old school nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Yeah, I separate my weed on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Couple of niggas like I smoked with the seeds niggasig.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
So, So what's what's what's doctor Dre status? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Doctor Dre is recovering diabetes. Fucked him up real bad.
But we're getting Dre together and It's probably very few
people on this earth that I love more than Drake.
So as long as I'm right, Dre is going to
be right, you know, and he's my partner, man, And
you know what, you know, you go through You went
through your ship with Capone.

Speaker 7 (01:57:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Pone's a crazy nigga and I spoke Pone, But uh,
you're gonna love your people no matter what. Dre is
my dude. He's always going to be my dude. And
when you get healthy, we got a lot of ship
that we got on the table that we're gonna do
together because that's my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
That's just what it is, and nothing else about it.
We get.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
We don't have to talk to each other every day
or every week, but when we're on that phone, it's
like we just caught back up like a doctor or
some ship like that. Like Drake, you know, said ship,
this hippopship been good to us.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
I got kids with master's degrees on fresh That's right.
I ain't got a master degree.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
You know what I mean? He said, the NFL helped
pay for some of the master Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:58:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
They tried to steal my ship, bro, They tried. They
try to steal again.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
They come on, son, Okay, come on, I say, come
on son, before they did come on man, the same
ship and you see it, they right at the same
So I was like, yeah, Keshan, you know what you did.
So you tried to come at me and was like,
now I've seen him. I was like, yo, bro, you
know that's my ship. Nah I did now. I was like, bro,
I got my hit on YouTube way before y'all started

(01:58:34):
this ship. So segment that he started doing, he started
off of come on son, okay, yes, and we sent
them a seaze and desist and I was like, fun, damn,
I wanna take my grandkids to Disney World like, and
they just they came right or to a football game.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
They came because you might have kicked out of I
might have kids everything and.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Football Giants games. You settled, Yeah, it's all good.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
They might have put you out of what's that ship
tail game? That's crazy? How much? Yes, yes, Disney everything,
Disney owners and you had to you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Had to contact him, but they yeah, but it was
my ship, not on the trademark, so they can't fight that,
and you just fight for your own ship.

Speaker 1 (01:59:20):
Man. Let's talk about the original. Well, how did you
come up and come on son.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
This is l.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
G Z and Drama had a beef. Okay, j Z
had his company and he hired Drama to DJ. Drama
knew that he had beef with Gucci, and at the party,
Drama dropped some Gucci ship and Jez went fucking ballistics.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
So there was beefing and I was like, but.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
The nigga, the nigga Gucci was hot, Like how can
you not play Gucci ship at the party? Is?

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
I was like, come on, son, you know, come on
son is something we always said to York.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
But it's like son.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
You know niggas that don't understand why we say son
so much.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
We just say son. Well understand that we understand it.
I know we understand, But it was come on, son.
It was what I wanted to say. So I shot
a video for it, and I didn't have I couldn't.
Kyron KYIRN is the way MTV us to put our
names on the bottom of the screen. It's called kyron,

(02:00:27):
and I had that little white map, the first one.
I didn't know how to do that shit. I don't
think there was a way to do it. So I
held up a piece of cardboard. I just moved to
my house. I ripped a piece of cardboard off and
rolled in Magic Marca. It's just like that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Let me get that ship. Come on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
We paid.

Speaker 9 (02:00:46):
And I was talking ship and I was like, right,
FuG got it, fifty had this is fifty dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
So my nigga uh was over there and I sent
the ship to him and he posted it and the
ship got like sixty thousand, this is fifty do on
they my ship and the ship went crazy. But I
read the comments and niggas was thising me crazy. Fuck
that old nigga. He don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
And my nigga said, come on, son, you know my nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
My nigga said, they watched it, right, that's all that
matters is they watched it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Do another one.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
And that was the beginning to fucking come on son,
And now was come on.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
So the podcast all right, so let me.

Speaker 4 (02:01:33):
I'm gonna point out to certain people in the room,
and you tell me if I'm telling the truth or not.
And by the way, you're telling me if you are,
you're telling the truth. But the time is with the
sign that's going okay.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
He eats the most Jamaican food in the whole place.
The guy with the red hat gus.

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
Yeah, that look that nigga looked like he eat think
nigga was something everything you're making that nigga eat a
beef patty. Okay, well I fail going it? Yeah, you
don't thank you guy, any of them?

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
What this guy.

Speaker 4 (02:02:15):
He's listen, listen, listen. He's pescatarian. Do you believe him
or that?

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
Yeah? I have to rack before I came over. I
christ in front of y'all. The nigga something niggas going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
To Mcdowne's the way shortly finished.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
You're going to McDonalds. You yeah, because mister mister Lee,
stand up, mister stando, stand up. You heard him.

Speaker 4 (02:03:05):
He said that he learned English through music. Do you
think he learned English through music or selling crack up town?

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
I never learned English.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
This nigga got an uncle that work on Dykeman right now.
They got.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
So that's what still said.

Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
All right, this is my friend Diego, Diego, get up.
He's on maternity League right now. Okay, Sonny sonny d
He's he's the only Haitian that webs Haiti but never

(02:03:56):
been to Haiti.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
On that about it that ship. I think, wait here,
he ain't a cloud. All right, this is our director.
His name is i Rast.

Speaker 4 (02:04:18):
It's supposed to be a vegan, but Sonny the godrom
Haiti caught him with a shrimp pizza one.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
Do you think he really make vegan?

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
He ain't no funigg just as much vegan as.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
My fucking not alcohol with drinking ship the funk out
of here ship. Vegans don't smoke weeds, Get the fun
out ship.

Speaker 2 (02:04:53):
I wasn't read that make you a little more Haitian
than Nigga little I got stumped up for why cleft?

Speaker 1 (02:05:04):
What did you talking about it?

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
He's a thinking from veganism. I wasn't ready, man, there's
a round table of bullshit going over there. Maternity leave.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
I before.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Okay, let's rewind the last I think it had been
the last episode good Weed. I knew it was gonna
be good, Yes, fantastic, the last episode of Young t
Reps when you had everybody there.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
Oh yeah, last. I know you probably talked about some
million times, but can you just describe what that meant
to you?

Speaker 2 (02:05:55):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
But for me, it came together.

Speaker 2 (02:05:58):
Actually defens for me, it was after it was years
after because you don't you'll know the shit when you're
in there in the moment, right at the moment, right,
you don't realize that this shit is like the most
epic shit. It was sad for me because I knew
it was the last episode and I didn't want it
to be. I wanted to do at least ten years
of your on TV rap and they're like, it's the

(02:06:18):
last episode.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
Charlie. Our manager knew. He's like, they're going into That's
the reason why.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
I took the Hot ninety seven job, because he had
already forecasted that they was about to get rid of
your on TV raps because they're playing more hip hop
and mainstream in the mainstream regular time, right. So he's like, well,
if they're gonna start doing that, what's going to be
special about your on TV raps? So he's like, take
this radio job, and you know, he told me what
how the stern was making. I was like, shit, I

(02:06:44):
can make almost close to that. Let's make something happen.
So it was a bittersweet for me, But at the
time I didn't realize that many people were in the room.
I once heard Search tell a story about his beef
and hammer and Hammer was there and apparently ran up
on hand or some ship.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
I was like, if it did happen, I don't know.
Did he did talk about that here?

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
I don't remember him talking about it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
But everybody was there, Like everybody that was on the
East Coast at that time was there.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
So it was it was kind of like a bittersweet
moment for me. But looking back on it, I didn't
realize how epic it was going to be.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
And it was really an organic like we'll call the
people like it was.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Like, Yo, we're doing the last show you on TV rats.
Anybody want to come come And it was just like
our idea that like you know, Fab said, we got
all these m season here, let's do a cipher Yeah,
and was just and if you look at it, that's
what ra City. He'll try to duplicate on the last
episode as well, and that was dope too, but always.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Still a Rap City got that like the freestyle segment
over the last episode of Yom TV RAPS, I.

Speaker 2 (02:07:57):
Would think, I love taking is a great friend of mine.
But I always say that the difference was Rap City
was a national show. We were an international show. We
were all over the world, you know, like Lee's saying,
as he tells everybody that come in here, he learned
to speak English from them. A lot of people tell
me actually that, yo, I watched your TV raps at

(02:08:20):
four a m.

Speaker 1 (02:08:20):
And Nigeria.

Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
That's how I learned to speaking Was it because of
the actual syndication? Was actually those country.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
TV was all over the world.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
It wasn't all over the world right before the merger,
before before.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Yeah, back then we were all over.

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
I remember Dream and I going to Japan and we
get off the plane in fifteen thousand Japanese out there
waiting for us that don't speak a spec of English
or they watch us like every fucking day comes pushing
you got in Japan?

Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
My share amount what Luke said here, this is yo yo.
They don't even speak English, thinking when the fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
It's just like.

Speaker 1 (02:09:03):
Like I don't know how you fuck somebody that can't
speak English, Like how you do that? What did you say?

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
I don't even know what to say? Like she's got
nigga got into bed. I guess me fucking he said,
I guess And there was no car doing now now,
got you bro?

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
Yeah? You fucked up ship like that? What did Willy
Nelson say, he said, you know much Connors, cause back
then he said who he said, he didn't know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
You know, that's the only nigga Snoop taking out smoking. Yeah,
Willie Nelson, Yeah, he said, Willie Nelson is the only
nigga that can out smoke. He said they had the bomb,
they had gas mask and all kind. I think he
breathes weed.

Speaker 1 (02:09:42):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
He said, I'm passing ship. He passing me, Shiitty, can't
I smoke that? I can't smoke with Snoop either. Snoop
is a ridiculous smoke.

Speaker 4 (02:09:51):
Oh he's one time smoked. Yeah when actually in New York. Yeah,
really it's documented. Yeah he stopped its all right, buddy, Them.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
Thinkings don't know how to stop smoking. This is the
only way that I'm going to smoke all day. But
normally don't have no lip here. I got no chill button.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
No, no, don't no, I ain't gonna lie. I don't
have no chill button.

Speaker 4 (02:10:11):
When I'm in front of person like you, my dude,
I've been with more so I've been so happy to
give you your flowers to make sure that you understand
how ill you are to this community. Our show is
about you know, when people get ten years or twenty
years in this game, people want.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
To write them off and tell them they old and
they old school. That's not what this show is about.
This show is about giving your flowers while you alive.
You bro, I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:36):
You like I said it, I said it earlier. You
made doing black media cool. Yeah, there's people that was
doing black media maybe before you and Dre and there
was people doing black media, maybe in a different way,
but no one did it in the style of the hood.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
You know what I'm saying. Saying like even when I
look at you know, cameon shows right now and I
love that show. I love it, but they're doing it
in that.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
Style, meaning like they're being there, being the barbershop with
the song, right, they be themselves And that's what you were.
The first people that was being themselves looking like us,
even when you walk karate outfits and you know what
I'm saying, and no shirts, but she was being like us,
looking like us.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Real quick you that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:19):
But humor is really.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Stand you had no shirt on the concernile cameouf no,
but for real, like, you know, we were so happy
to come home. Even when I did the print ad
for lux you were still loving me? Whatever? What the
the print ad for lugo nasty work flex you flex.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
Le. I never bought into lugs.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
I took the check. I took the check. Sure, I
took the check. Should you didn't let take it? Did
you ever wear lugs in public without the She was
nasty too.

Speaker 2 (02:12:02):
Quickly went back to TA. They made your feet hurt immediately.

Speaker 1 (02:12:06):
Like because what was love supposed to be Tim's competition?

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
Yeah, they were trying to get into that market.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
Yeah, just trying to get in that market.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Yeah, that market was huge and TIMS didn't even understand
that market at the.

Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
Time because they didn't originally come in for hip hop. No,
we just we make everything.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
And Tim said, oh ship looks they sent us the
lug ad immediately look at that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
Yeah, I told you that's a nasty nigg that don't
show that show that discussing. I loved stupid right there,
un But it's good to admit that you did some
dumb shap for the check though.

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
Yes, and Olsen that we just found up the Mars
open in February nineteen.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Nineteen ninety nine. That was when probably right around the
time after that, that my man signed to the next
Litt Trust's Free web the three before we had to
poll before he choke PJ call. That went on, the next,
that went on, the next, different, different squad, and that's
when I met fucking Kanye West for the first time.
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
Look, geez, I need another drink. I got, I got
one more left in. I have not touched this basil
hating and that's the damn problem. Drink that to take this?
What you still got?

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Take that? I mean with you? Yeah, we still got
pappy when I'm drinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We bring
back to old school, said relaxed.

Speaker 4 (02:13:23):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. She don't we
drink it all? No, yes, no, no no, We're gonna
let you. Just being that you order this. I wanted
to impress you as my friend, well, thank you, my brother.
I wanted to let you know how much you mean
to me. And that's what I said. I love making
sure are people taking people drink orders. And when you
said American whiskey, I was like, Yo, I got to

(02:13:43):
bring out this pappy and I bring out the twelve year.

Speaker 2 (02:13:46):
That pappy is special, bro, especially I know about everybody all, all,
all my fans back home. That's gonna watch this. It's
gonna watch and watch me drink this pappy and be jealous. Yes,
my wife is going to be like smoking weed. You
really don't smoke weed like that?

Speaker 1 (02:14:02):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
Listen?

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Wait, I'm a drink champ, babe, damn right the big time. Hey,
yes and so, but this is why I.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Saw y'all niggas in Atlanta. When I do, I stepped
here and saying, what the fun? You're not gonna be
on drink chain, my nigga, and I'm min we already
stepped to you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:22):
So but hold on. This is how I know you're
a real cigar smoker. You bring your own cigars.

Speaker 4 (02:14:27):
See when you made the drink order, I would expect
you to say, hiss my cigars. But this see real
cigar motherfuckers to smoke their own cigars.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
Right, because y'all might fuck my cigar order, just leave
a Master Blend number three, no, number two, and number one.
We're fucking amazing. So when I saw this, I was like,
I gotta get the Master Blend out here.

Speaker 1 (02:14:52):
I got this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
I brought these frimps from Atlanta. Oh wow, wow, Yeah, absolutely.
I just didn't have the torch because niggas take your
torch the air point and I didn't check no bags,
so they wasn't gonna let me bring my torch on.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
So your man was kind enough to go get me
a torch.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
Because if I had have lit this ship with a
big lighter like you got right there, the niggas would
have told me, oh my god, my stogies on the
rocks crew, they would have killed me.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
I would have been banned. I should have been on
punishment on the rocks crew.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
There's a social club in New York, community of I
have my community like fellowship, siray. Those are the places
Cigar City Club. I smoked there. I smoked at Life
and times. I smoke Patio two patios. Yeah, I smoke
all over the place. And they know it's against the
rules to light a cigar with a big lighter.

Speaker 1 (02:15:41):
It's against the rules. It's not a gas lighter because
it's not fast enough. It's not a gas. Look, we
learned something to bullshit. It's good for this.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
You can get with this, you can get with that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:54):
With that. Hast been good to you. Atlanta's wonderful to me.
So I heard you got over the sports job.

Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
I got offered the sports job on ninety two to
nine the Game, but then they decided that they didn't
want to hire outside of what they already had. And
that's part of audisty too. But sports is something that
I'm really into that I really love. I've been a
sports fact. I'm a New York Giants fan unfortunately, but.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
I'm a sports guy.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
I like sports, and I think at the time what
they needed was somebody that can give you sports in
a layman's term, like I talked directly to people that
watch sports the way I watch sports that talk about politics,
the way I do that talk to people the way
you talking to me right, the way you guys embrace
me and talk to me.

Speaker 1 (02:16:38):
That's how I talk to people.

Speaker 2 (02:16:39):
I don't give them the well the right God pulled
this way have to people bodies, right, I don't do
the technicality. That's for dudes that played the game, and
I respect the shit out of them too. But I
just liked sports.

Speaker 4 (02:16:53):
But being that, you said, Jamie Fox broung Oprah to
your show. Yeah, Jamie Fox is now viral whoa which is.

Speaker 2 (02:17:00):
Ship with Jerry Jones talking about niggas dicks Paulus on that.

Speaker 7 (02:17:05):
What the fuck was he that? Did we have to
bring this dream hats? No, that was like a slave
thing to me, like I thought slavery. It's real SHAMEI
turned that ship off right when he said he's this tall,
this amount of weight.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
His hands are this big and he got an eight
and a half inches nine inch cock.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
I was like, how the fuck do you know that? Yo?
And that's the first thing I say, yo, yo, oh, No,
come on, sign how you know that? So I give
me that? Give the fuck hey, Jerry Jones, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Phone, crazy ship. You can't buy baby oil no more.
I can't buy no baby oil, nigga. This is what
I want to say about that real quick, because Diddy
is my nigga, right, I want to tell everybody that
there's a difference between did he parties and did he

(02:18:03):
freak off party? I've been to a thousand Diddy parties
that did not turn into freak off parties. Maybe I
wasn't famous enough to be invited to them shits, I
don't know, but those parties were not the parties that
I went to. And amen, goddamn right, That's all I
want to say about that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:22):
I don't know. I don't know, amen. I ain't never
been in the freaking up party to either, but I've
been with my wife, so maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:18:31):
But I didn't see it. I didn't see it personally.
And when the Feds get you, as you know we
saw it where murder inc. They want to milk your
bank account till you ain't got shit left. The Feds
don't lose nigga. They come only niggas I ever know
that beat the Feds for fucking irving him. They come

(02:18:51):
when they come in barely, huh and barely and barely.
They don't come until they got some real shit on you, right,
So they putting puffing the trick bag right now because
of the.

Speaker 1 (02:19:01):
Way they defined sexual trafficking.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
But now was a teenager. We went to the whole straw.
We went to Hunts Point. We was talking a bit
in Queens Yeah, yeah, in the Bristol hotel that l
around about the holes used to be there Park Avenue
South before they cleaned that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:19):
Up in the loose right now, he's like, Louke, No,
but I got but let's be fair. Hugh Hefner had
freak offs absolutely like this. He had a grotto that
was made for sex.

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
Absolutely, Like, I mean, I didn't funk when I went
to the grotto, but you went to the grotto. I've
been to, let's hear about it. Yeah, I've been there,
but I ain't. None happened because you as old as fuck.
I don't even think the nigga knew who I was.

Speaker 1 (02:19:47):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
I was just sitting there, like, oh, this is the grotto.
But it's different.

Speaker 1 (02:19:53):
Now, Yeah, the spokes a weed do something.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
Yeah, it's different because of the way they view where
the laws all?

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:20:00):
Now right, because we all seen the movie Taken. We
love the movie Taking with Lee and Neeson, right, they
snatching women off the streets.

Speaker 1 (02:20:07):
It's the movement of people. It's the movement of people
that's the problem. Difference, it's the movement of It's the movement.

Speaker 2 (02:20:15):
We're not defying it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
That's no, it's true. It's the moment. It's the movement
of the people.

Speaker 2 (02:20:20):
Once you move them across straight state lines and paying
them for sex, they call that traffic.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
Key.

Speaker 5 (02:20:26):
Yeah, and with all due respect, we are not qualified
to talk about this on drink chance and saying we shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
Because I ain't sex traving nobody. We're celebrating his legacy.

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
Were hefn nor? You don't want to know the craziest ship.
My mother is eighty six years old. So the shit
came out. My mother called me baby. I'll say, hey, man, are.

Speaker 1 (02:20:50):
You on the freak freak tape? I'm like, I said, no,
let me tell you why she say that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:58):
She's said, because I standing in the church is real
good right now, and I don't want I wasn't messing. Yeah,
I said, it's called the freak alls And no I'm
not on none of them tape.

Speaker 4 (02:21:09):
But that's that's a beautiful thing that you you because
I remember you saying when you was in l A
after Big died, that was one of the people who
called you a second la was your mom was my
mother and say, no matter how, you have to get
out of there and get out of there because the
vitriol on Big was disgusting.

Speaker 1 (02:21:29):
On the radio, it was disgusting. Yes, when he died, Yes,
they were going crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
Uh, poet is who's a radio personality?

Speaker 1 (02:21:40):
I love? She was on the radio.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
She openly took calls and the disrespectful Big people she
didn't respect. She didn't disrespect Big. She was sad and
say we lost one of the greatest. And the vitrioll
that came in, the disgusting words that they said. But
let me about big made me feel like I need
to get out of here, right could she.

Speaker 4 (02:22:02):
Had because she had edited that part or at that
time live radio and live radio.

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
It was live radio, so so when they took calls,
you couldn't edit that no time. Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
If she would have recorded him, she could, Okay. I
don't think she wouldn't let it go. And it was
just like his fat ass ain't had no bisness. You know,
we didn't like him. After Park died, good good for
him his family like it was.

Speaker 1 (02:22:26):
It was crazy, bro, and he's playing it a live radio. Yeah,
it was great.

Speaker 4 (02:22:30):
And I heard you also say, contrary to popular belief,
Pop died, New York was showing them nothing but.

Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
Crazy love, you know nods. Our homeboy allowed me to
step on his stage stage and Nash college him and
announced that everybody that that pocket passed away and he
had be for Pop and he allowed me to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
I told him because I heard Angie say it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
I was on my way to the concert and Angie said,
Park just died, and uh, I set the nods. I
remember he had on the red leather. Another nigga had
no shirt on it any time, but that's noth I
go at him too. So the nigga had on the
farmer's joint leather joint, red joint. I say, yo, Pop died, Man,
I think you need to tell everybody. He said, I
can't do that. Here, give me the mic, so go

(02:23:14):
tell everybody. Pop passed and we did a moment of
silence for Pop. But in La nigga went big did
They didn't give a fuck?

Speaker 5 (02:23:24):
Can I play Devil's advocate for a second. Yeah, And
I know it's not the same thing, but couldn't it
be said that the same thing happened in New York
when the Dog Pound and Snoop were filming the video.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
Died and people but you're correct, you correct, people were shooting. Yeah,
but said, hey, why would you? He said, why?

Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
A lot of these niggas will come in and that
be the similar. It's very similar. But nobody died.

Speaker 1 (02:23:48):
We lost toward the greatest one when somebody nobody.

Speaker 4 (02:23:52):
In fact, first of the shooting shootings didn't occur until Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
That shooting that happened. What do you mean with shoot
and puff. No, No, people got shot. People were shooting
in New York.

Speaker 2 (02:24:04):
But that ship nationally when sugar Man got killed. When
sugar Man got killed, I can't say I was dancing.
I don't know, but allegedly by Wolf was what sparked
the whole ship. It was never East Coast West Coast
bad Boy. I think everybody hip hop knew. It was
a lot of dumb niggas out here that don't know that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:22):
Really was in the culture knew. It was never East Coast,
West Coast.

Speaker 2 (02:24:26):
It was this time because came Q came to New
York and did Americans most warning. So how do what
the fuck was we hating on? The Boss Squad produces
out right.

Speaker 1 (02:24:35):
The most New York shit ever, made, the most epic
public in coast out Yeah. Ever, that was my dad
called him to the public talking about yeah yeah. But
we we didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:24:47):
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
We never disliked.

Speaker 2 (02:24:49):
We embraced and loved West Coast music, even though sometimes
we were so full of ourselves that we couldn't understand
what was coming from the south and the and the
West in the.

Speaker 1 (02:25:00):
West and south east right right, But we embraced it.
When we got it. Sometimes it takes people a longer
time to get it. Do you think we talk about
it here often? And you know what, I hear a
story that you said that one time, that not one time,
but this time particular. It is a wonderful week, thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:25:18):
Yes, that when I believe Big died, and I believe
on a Saturday, and you couldn't leave to a Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:25:25):
Yeah, so you had to get out of town.

Speaker 4 (02:25:28):
So when you finally got your car service, I laid
said you laid down, bro, you laid.

Speaker 1 (02:25:33):
That's how it shook. I was.

Speaker 2 (02:25:34):
I ain't gonna lie. Ain't no such things as halfway crooks.
This thigga was a shook nigga. I'm yeah, I'm on
the West coast. You said that, Yeah, I'm on the
West Coast. And when my car finally came and got
me that morning to take me to the airport, hood
on on pull tight you know, robbery, hood get a
stick a nigga, And I laid down on the back

(02:25:56):
seat till we got to the airport, until I got
in the terminal actually to my gate is when I
took the hood off. Wow, because I was that scared,
because we didn't know where it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:05):
Came from, and you didn't know if it was for
everybody right right, like they.

Speaker 2 (02:26:09):
Could just were like were killing every East Coast nigga.

Speaker 1 (02:26:11):
I'm out here. I gotta get home.

Speaker 4 (02:26:13):
My mom was like, they're wanting to kill the minus out.
I want to sign that because I wasn't there at all.
I wasn't there the source of I wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (02:26:21):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:26:22):
I didn't come out till till ninety seven, ninety eight.
I believe Big died ninety five ninety seven, right, So
I wasn't lit. So I definitely had no budget to
go out there. You know what I'm saying, Like that's
very simple, real nigga shit. And but I remember like
actually having a budget afterwards, and I remember me not

(02:26:43):
having a choice.

Speaker 1 (02:26:44):
But I land in LA.

Speaker 4 (02:26:46):
They had security for me, and I, you know, I
was like, you know, like a hood nigga at that time,
like I don't need security. And they had like almost
insurance policies on almost every artist after Big and Pop.
I don't want to ever say that's Paris theory. I
want to say that's our culture who led that to that?

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
But what what if? What if?

Speaker 2 (02:27:08):
What if? What if I'm naive.

Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
And what if that was? Do you think there ever
was conspiracy theories for I think.

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
It's unfortunately not conspiracy coincidence. I think that it became
so big that it got out of their hands.

Speaker 1 (02:27:24):
That's deep. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
I think once Park died, I think it was on even.

Speaker 1 (02:27:30):
Though even though people know that Big didn't have nothing
to do with it.

Speaker 2 (02:27:33):
Yeah, I don't think they still know they be.

Speaker 1 (02:27:36):
For so bid.

Speaker 2 (02:27:36):
It was so bad, Yes, you know, hit them up
and all that and record and who shot you added
to it, which wasn't really at Park dumb before Pocket
it shouldn't have been put out and who they said,
I'll put that shut out?

Speaker 1 (02:27:53):
It shouldn't have been really know that. We had a
debate with I think Tony.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
We debated.

Speaker 1 (02:27:59):
I said no because as a child, YEA, the most
loyal nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:28:03):
The most loyal.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
I had that record who shot you? Before that? That like,
before they really released it. I'm saying it was before
anybody passed thinking FN played that ship, didn't he Yeah,
what I'm saying before it didn't relate to that when
I played it.

Speaker 4 (02:28:22):
I'm saying you when you had it, you didn't relate
it to to the to the pokh because the pro
didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
It was like, did we get white labels, We'll get
like press you know, like test pressings. And I was
on Pyate radio and I'm playing yeah. But but when
it went went like on radio commercial.

Speaker 5 (02:28:38):
Radio and everybody was relating it to the shootings, I'm like, nah, bro,
like that's not what.

Speaker 2 (02:28:42):
It was, right. But I look like that to the
general public, the general public, and I think that was
a huge mistake. You could have held that back and
then god damn. I still don't like to hear hit
them out. It still bothers me. Yeah, I'm nowhere it
was and I know why he did it, but it's
still it's still fuck with me, bro, And it's.

Speaker 5 (02:29:04):
Crazy how big it's such as a huge it's an
ill record though, but it's an ill if you wanted
to just out of context, like I mean, as a
as a hip hop historian, look at a battle record.

Speaker 2 (02:29:15):
It's one of the greatest ones up there with no vassal.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
Vassilion up there with they not like uh the bridges over,
bridges over Hey man, it's up there.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
It's up there.

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
Man, you left right you want. I don't give bridge
Over was just a queen.

Speaker 2 (02:29:31):
We can't know what I realized about the bridges Over.
I looked at krass ones age. There's no way he
would have knew this ship he was talking about. He
was fourteen. Wait, wait when he did the bridges Over? No,
think about what the times he's talking about the hip
hop to look as wise as seems, I didn't hear
a peep from a place called Queens.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
You were fourteen, You wouldn't have heard it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:54):
Are you saying we still got a case? Yes? Weday,
all right, cool?

Speaker 1 (02:29:57):
This is like murder. This is like murder.

Speaker 4 (02:29:59):
We can bring this back up, bringing charge back up,
bringing charges back up.

Speaker 1 (02:30:07):
Cares We're not We're not taking it, taking that ship
from your empty. Shan is the judge. We got em.

Speaker 2 (02:30:15):
Shann makes a lot of sense. She shan't makes a
lot of sales ever before.

Speaker 1 (02:30:18):
Yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
Yeah, I fucking love Shance, one of my super he's
a super legend.

Speaker 1 (02:30:24):
But when when he was trying to funk with LLL
at that time too and cars brought that out. But yeah,
you need to take your man with ll You need
to take your man off the crack. Oh, my god,
damn smoking crack back then. Yeah, but Shampan thought about it. Yeah,
he didn't say he was smoking crack. I mean, I
don't know about that part, but he thought us about

(02:30:44):
his addictions.

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
Like I love chanting man should up to empty shand
real quick, because I want to go back to something
you've talked about on Drink Champs in relation to Biggie
and everything that happened when you and and Mob Deep
did the record l A l A. That what Biggie
told you.

Speaker 1 (02:31:05):
Yeah, I went straight to the tunnel.

Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
We did it because I mean, obviously we weren't on,
so that was like the way to get on, like
to like, you know, New York. This is right after
the New York York. The only rebuttal from it was
a friend of of my hood. His name is Chaz,
and he brung me up. He was on the DJ
list that was called and long story short, we went

(02:31:29):
in there. We just did a response. We never really
like dissed them back.

Speaker 1 (02:31:34):
The only person that like related to l A was
the Prodigy said JFK on our Way to LA And
that was the only part the whole record that kind
of seemed like it. But I stepped in big. I
don't remember if it's that night or whatever night, but
I still the big was like, yo, we went back
at him for you. You know what I mean? L
A l A he was because remember it was bad
Boy mixtape. Remember had.

Speaker 4 (02:31:57):
Clue had one first was ironically being from Queens. He didn't,
he didn't shout to do he didn't. He didn't, he didn't,
he didn't put us on on the record. So stressed
Armstrong did big of a stressed Armstrong and big up
the barbeto. But although this is a stressed Armstrong move

(02:32:17):
by itself, and I remember stepping the big and big
like nah, he was so smart. He was like, nah,
we can't use that on the Bad Boy mixtape. We
won't use l A l A.

Speaker 1 (02:32:29):
You.

Speaker 4 (02:32:29):
You were spawning to them because what he's accusing me
of how they do? And I had at that time,
I was so naive and young. I was like, what's
wrong with them?

Speaker 1 (02:32:42):
I'm represented for you, And years later come to find
out like, like what he said to me at that
very moment was real, Like I had, I got nothing
to do with it. He's accusing me of right, how
does that make?

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:32:55):
Was big?

Speaker 2 (02:32:56):
That was a big path on the whole ship, on
the whole ship. It's like what he's saying, I love
this dude, Like this is my guy. He always took
the higher road on that. Like I have heard stories
that Big went back into the studio and took Pop's
gun out of the piano.

Speaker 1 (02:33:11):
Yeah, I heard that. I don't know if it's true.
But he put in his pants, we walked out.

Speaker 2 (02:33:17):
I don't know if it was him, but he sent
somebody or him.

Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
I don't know. They have a catch charge.

Speaker 2 (02:33:24):
I catch the gun chok. But Big, so I'm like,
why would you do that? If you had something to
do with it? And I think I know for a fact.
Big was very hurt Bond. He's expressed in the interviews
like I'm fucking hurt, like I love his dude like it.
This got out of hand man, and sometimes ship beef
like that happens. It just gets on the hand. Niggas

(02:33:46):
gasing you up, You gasting yourself up.

Speaker 1 (02:33:50):
It's nasty. Nobody wants to back down. Nobody wants to
back down.

Speaker 2 (02:33:53):
And they were both Gemini and God blessed the Vibe
and my sister.

Speaker 1 (02:34:00):
Yeah, I get them both. Yeah, you get it. God
bless the Vibe magazine, But the Vibe magazine they put
their fuel on that fucked everything up, everything up everything.
The media exacerbated that situation absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
They exacerbated to the point of no return, And the
point of no return was that we lost two of
the greatest artists that we have ever had.

Speaker 4 (02:34:24):
Yeah, I know it sounds like so like very like crazy,
but we can't really blame anybody who covered that in
that way at that time because we didn't understand that
that was the end result.

Speaker 2 (02:34:39):
Yeah, how can we not blame.

Speaker 4 (02:34:41):
Them because there was no other example of that, like
you know, like like if right now, like fucking Kareem
and Draine play Skelly and then one of them have
to jump in the pool afterwards.

Speaker 1 (02:34:53):
That's the first example of that. You know, I'm using
that because that's very I don't get it. But go.

Speaker 4 (02:34:59):
If it goes iral, yeah, yeah, which was what which
I was doing back then.

Speaker 1 (02:35:05):
They made it go viral, but that was viral. This
is my thing though, I think all of us looked
at the Vibe and we were all young people at
the time, and we looked at the article and we
all were like, no, that's a little bit that they're reaching,
they're reaching. They did reach, they're reaching. I think all
of us as young people. And honestly, it was dis
records before the really but no, but no disrecords led

(02:35:30):
to death at that time. That's the reason why I like,
I do blame them, but I don't. I don't blame
them because there was no example of that now, any
publication that made coverage of that and and led to that.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
Like right now, when I'm looking.

Speaker 4 (02:35:44):
At you know, all these cases because it's fucking mad
cases and hip hop, Like you can look the cases
in hip hop in Atlanta too.

Speaker 1 (02:35:53):
They're getting locked up. Yeah, we got to start asking
ourselves real questions.

Speaker 5 (02:35:57):
How much has hip hop made excuses for ship for
ship that's gonna get us all fucked up?

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
How much has hip hop helped or hurt the black community.
It's helped a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:36:07):
We helped help more, but the emphasis was on how
we hurt, right, But we helped way more help. The
MX said something, he said, he don't dis whack rappers
no more because one rap, one rapper period saved sixteen families.
And I believe that one rapper, whether you whack or not.

Speaker 2 (02:36:27):
Yeah, y'all had the nigga young on here. He gave
the best description of d MX I ever heard him.

Speaker 1 (02:36:31):
Young was ill bro. He was the best queens too
from Queen. But he don't claim us at all. You
don't claim us. No, no, no, he claimed La. No no,
he claim queens bro relaxed. Don't tell me that. We
asked from Quick John's line. He don't know what he said,
is he because he made his chops in La. He did,
That's what he That's why he claims La the way
he does. He's a queen's inga. He said it, Yo,

(02:36:57):
come on so but but but he went, if you
don't came Queen's nigga.

Speaker 5 (02:37:04):
This is it?

Speaker 1 (02:37:04):
But is it? He went back to Cali and he
never came back. Yeah he didn't. Yeah, you know he
made his bones and Cali he did. He made He
was on the West Coast all stars like he's on the.

Speaker 2 (02:37:16):
West Coast more than he was in New York. With that,
he's not wrong with that. But he did say something
about X and XS rom style. And I've told people
this a million times, extra ram any fucking thing, and
it would have sounded dope because of his voice. It's
a lot of people that could do that. Yeah, yeah,
Excell could have did. Mary had a little Lamb and
the ship would have been ill.

Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
He did, He did, had.

Speaker 2 (02:37:39):
Married Lamb, and the Lamb of fact, I love the
Lamb loved me because I'm d.

Speaker 1 (02:37:50):
You know. Yeah, that nigga was ill. The whole dark
communities a word. I told people on top.

Speaker 2 (02:37:59):
You can put d MX on any fucking record, any record,
country music, and the ship was still bad. You can
put Dolly parton nine to five working nine to five. Well,
the way to make a lead. See that ship is crazy.
So X go with everything.

Speaker 1 (02:38:21):
That's just saying that everything go everything.

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
And then Swiss told me the nigga didn't want to
do Party Out. Swiss told me that, Wow, that nigga
hated Party Up. Rough Riders Anthem was Swiss's first. He
didn't want to He didn't want to do that record,
and that records the creator, the Illis Records, ever.

Speaker 1 (02:38:42):
Son Swiss second placements, Badfoot TV. We continue bad TV.

Speaker 5 (02:38:46):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah we already heard how you
fucked that up because he said, wung it up.

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
He said he wanted to make a beat and you
didn't let him make a.

Speaker 4 (02:38:55):
Beat because that was like he gave him a loop.
That record was what you want me to That's one
of the greatest part records.

Speaker 2 (02:39:04):
Didn't you say that?

Speaker 1 (02:39:05):
List a hundred another drink hold not even know I
wanted to drinks. It's a nigga record. It's not a
girl record. The girls don't love band from look at
the DJ and you No, yes, yeah, nigga.

Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
Normous said I'm never making a record with you, even
if your woman fun the whole crew. I was like,
he's aspect Yeah, I was thinking, but then he still
did it.

Speaker 1 (02:39:36):
No, never intersectional, like he said, I'm gonna put I'm like,
I'm like, who is this nigga? Come on, come on.
I didn't expect it. I expect the gambling shoot out

(02:39:57):
to the backyard house.

Speaker 2 (02:40:00):
You need to have shoot out in the background.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
Ironically, it's really that I see him word that. I
promise you. They got pictures and everything that proved. I say,
you remember this. It was a little little yeah. Yeah,
it was a cookout. Yeah yeah, just smelled good. Yeah.
This is not I was not seen at that time exactly.
It was I think, like ten, oh, I see you

(02:40:25):
have to remember something. No, No, West Irish and West
remembering something because.

Speaker 4 (02:40:32):
You're twenty four now, so this gotta be yeah, this
gotta be yeah, because it's gotta be eight years.

Speaker 1 (02:40:38):
By the way, I got to flip coming.

Speaker 2 (02:40:40):
I got the flicks because if not seen was twenty four,
he was one and she's twenty five.

Speaker 1 (02:40:48):
So let me just tell you something.

Speaker 4 (02:40:49):
Here's here's here's after this happened because Daddy came to
my crib that level.

Speaker 1 (02:40:56):
It's like the only one time because I was coming
to your crib. Yeah, hold on, look, so this the
only time Chris he came to my crib. And then
joh U was there and he's managing joh Ru at
the time. I don't believe he's managing fifty at the time.
He wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:41:10):
Next week he started managing fifty knowing that was the yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:41:14):
Yeah, he bought his bread bread and then fifty dropped
the freestyle.

Speaker 1 (02:41:20):
He said I know where no he lived, you live
by Norri crib. I said, oh s moved, Yeah, there
he got. He thought it was me that y'ah moved.

Speaker 2 (02:41:34):
Yeah, he was getting that like that j Long money
right and the writing he did on Mary right.

Speaker 1 (02:41:40):
He made a lot of level right.

Speaker 4 (02:41:42):
And then fifty made a freestyle. I know where Norri lived, Yo?
You live by Norri krib How.

Speaker 1 (02:41:47):
Does the manager managed that? That's what I want to know,
Chris managed. It makes a noise for Chris like you
got that hold on.

Speaker 4 (02:41:57):
These niggas got an ice cream section, yo, yo yo,
This nigga league got an ice cream section? Coldly is
I ain't gonna lie he taking he's taking a bathroom break.

Speaker 1 (02:42:17):
I ain't gonna. I'm enjoyed this, pappy me too. Brother,
Thank you, brother, yes, yes, thank you, because I got listen.
Listen you.

Speaker 4 (02:42:27):
You being my olgi from Queens is one thing. Being
my og and hip hop is another thing. You being
my og overall is everything absolutely and you my friend too.

Speaker 1 (02:42:41):
I fuck with you.

Speaker 2 (02:42:43):
You ain't never changed on me, and.

Speaker 1 (02:42:44):
You never changed on me. Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:42:46):
You know what when I saw you outside of of
the fucking rock the bell ship and was like you good,
I was like, that's my nigga right there, Like the
nigga was like are you good? You had a thousand
niggas with you? Yes, I did, and I'm still worried
about what I'm good. And then I came he y'all
there gave me.

Speaker 1 (02:43:03):
A ball you.

Speaker 4 (02:43:05):
Goddamn do you want another one? Yeah, go ahead, because
because for real, like nah, that's for real ship.

Speaker 1 (02:43:14):
And let me say this before the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:43:18):
I am so fucking proud of you, thank you, because
you've pivoted it. Yes, right, and you made something that
everybody is following. You Gotta realize everything you're doing right
now is what everybody else is trying to do right now,
but they can't do it the way you do it.
Because when I watch you, I mean, like this nigga,
noway did this? Like this nigga actually did homework, Like

(02:43:40):
you're not just asking niggas regular ship.

Speaker 1 (02:43:43):
You bring up ship niggas be like, how the fuck
you know that?

Speaker 2 (02:43:46):
Because y'all are doing your homework, man, and that's why
y'all deserve what y'all getting, and that's why y'all a
number more motherfucking podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:43:53):
Like goddamn, not to say, I ain't coming for your ass.
You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, no, yeah,
come on, come on all time.

Speaker 2 (02:44:05):
But I admire it. But I admire it and I
learned from it. And my wife is my podcast partner.

Speaker 1 (02:44:14):
Right now, you got a couple of relationships, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44:17):
Miss fruit. That's my that's my wife. They call her fruit, okay,
and she's my podcast partner man. And we just we
talk our ship. We don't always talk relationships, but we
just I'm in a good place right now.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
How much more? Not probably after this week, but let's
let's finish that pappy me motherfucking ed lover. And if
you don't drink a little bit of pappy, you know what, you.

Speaker 5 (02:44:42):
Know, my wife told me you probably might drink some
of the ship that they're gonna drink because ed Love
is gonna tell you drink a little.

Speaker 1 (02:44:48):
Something, a little pappy. You gotta have a a little
bit of this, give me a little And my wife
told me to be careful.

Speaker 2 (02:45:00):
And you know what, I'm gonna fall to the trap
and she told me, can I get a little bit
of it?

Speaker 1 (02:45:05):
A little bit? Come on, No, we share out because
I need you to have I need if you never
you've never had this, relax, buddy, have you had this never? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:45:14):
Okay, you're gonna understand why this is the best ship
on the market.

Speaker 1 (02:45:19):
I drink Mahanna don't taste like then it's gonna taste
like cream soda.

Speaker 2 (02:45:24):
And then I'm gonna be like henna.

Speaker 1 (02:45:27):
Taste like root bell. So we killed that whole bottle
of papping is not damn, this ship is smooth.

Speaker 8 (02:45:40):
Broke me up, but absolutely I'm not doing anything else.

Speaker 2 (02:45:45):
Good hold on, relax, pause for for reaction.

Speaker 1 (02:45:49):
You're a drink champ. You're supposed to already know that
he drinks everything.

Speaker 2 (02:45:53):
No, no, but yeah, but we stick. I stick to
my own ship. I'm very happy. I asked me to
drink that mama wana.

Speaker 1 (02:45:58):
I was, but I drank pappy. You gotta drink my majuana.
Look and trust me, this is not as bad as
I already knew when I came here. I have to drink.
Let's go. That's it, to the drink champs, to the
drink chances and family.

Speaker 2 (02:46:18):
Here we go, super super super something. God damn, I'm
not taking a home. You can't go from that. I
need some plastic.

Speaker 1 (02:46:31):
I mean, look, you can do voodoo with this whatever
you want about. I mean, we're gonna make sure we
got back. You got a case. Where's the case? You
got the case at case of what we want to
John case of the high School Blues and go, man,
I appreciate you, and those are gold flowers that will
not die because your legacy will never die. Thank you,

(02:46:54):
man man hold on not for real.

Speaker 4 (02:46:58):
I want to thank you for the out of my
heart and when whatever I said, I'm pretty sure comes
with my partner.

Speaker 1 (02:47:06):
We love what you did. We love the platform that
you laid out.

Speaker 4 (02:47:10):
Whenever you see somebody being theyself on a hip hop platform,
you need to pat yourself on the back.

Speaker 2 (02:47:18):
Because the one mean.

Speaker 1 (02:47:19):
Descent truly becomes from you and your partner.

Speaker 4 (02:47:22):
I don't want to forget him because he's not here,
and we wish him at speedy recovery.

Speaker 1 (02:47:26):
We wish him you know next time we come, dre
gonna be with have it so dope.

Speaker 4 (02:47:35):
But we want you to know, same way you told
me every time I've seen you anywhere, that your platform
is my platform. And this is the three sixty that
kaya your live show is the three sixty of me
telling me telling you that our.

Speaker 1 (02:47:51):
Platform is your platform. I don't care what you want
to promote. You want to promote candles that comes with
toenail wax because and we killed that pappy together. Well,
thank you so much for joining us, hanging with us,

(02:48:14):
and letting us, allowing you to give you the flowers
that you deserve, because this is real ship. You deserve
everything that we said. None of us is exaggerating. This
is something that we all came out we want to do.

Speaker 5 (02:48:36):
Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C production hosts
and executive producers n O r E and dj e
f N. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify,
or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us
for another episode of drink Champs hosted by Yours truly,
dj e f N and n O r E. Please

(02:48:58):
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