Episode 433 - “Family Episode” w/ Memphis Bleek, Lil Cease, Scoop Deville, K.Foxx, Grafh & Cardan! - Drink Champs

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
That is Drink Chans, motherfucking podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
He's a legends every Queens rapper. Hey, he's a great
as your boy in O r he. He's a Miami
hip hop pioneer. What up is d J E F
N Together? They drink it up with some of the
biggest players, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one
source for drunk.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Drink Chans mother das New Year's that's it's time for
drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuck motherfucker? Would it good?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Be?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hopes?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
It should be?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
This is your boy in O r E. What up
is d J E f N f O double X?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
This is midertatement, motherfucker crazy. I'm gonna start with you.
You're originally from New York.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Right, health kitchen? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And so you moved to Miami, yes, and then you
moved back to New York.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And then moved back to This is y'allucking me up?
Y'all fucking me up. I feel like she's claiming Miami though, right, No?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I mean yeah, definitely Miami embraced me, know what I'm saying.
So I got a lot of my career was made
in Miami. You know me and that Me and DJ Calla.
We held down the radio ninety nine James for a
long time. Here book a lot of records here. So
Miami embraced me for real.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So what is the most disrespectful city in the world,
Miami or New York.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
It's a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's a tie, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Did you see the study where they said Miami is
the most disrespectful city in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was like, New York.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, yes, this is the reason why. You know New
York is some rude people. They were not making it
and it was just like, na, man, you know your
city foul.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
All the New Yorkers moved here. That's that's why what
I said, That's what I said.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
But we calmed down once we came to Miami. Patients
right now, traffic, that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That traffic. That's where New York can come out like
the fuck they doing. But yeah, and it beat traffic
in Miami. I remember to come out. Here's no traffic,
the streets too small. Everybody got exotics.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Man, a schooter's back yeah, yeah, Schools dangerous, Yeah, the
school's back.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That leads me too drunk out here for schools and
push keep it going.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, you know, Miami is like the only place that
got twenty three hour liquor store.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now we got twenty four hour liquors toore.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I know what twenty three hour liquor store I used
to always know about, Homie.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Just stay, let's break shift. J Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
So look, so we're gonna talk about current events. It's
called a family episode. We're gonna bounce around. It's time
to drink though, right, yeah, mister Lee, can we tell
her Spanish? Want some?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I would like to like the way.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
She definitely don't speak English, and I went over there
said something the ash tray.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
She looked at me like, yeah, right, I.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Want like some sad some some sangree.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Can you translate you better? I think? Said come on
already saying this right, come on you like I gonna
tell her what to do.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
P oh ship, come on, bro, you gotta get take
everybody drink or the Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
My work.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Won't taking that drink over this. I want to take
which one?

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay, today okay, Sunny.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Hooked me up with a cup.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Man, whiskey, you gotta open up the DoD you.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Got this hey, man't know, just get me a cut
home criteria. Come over, I got, I got shot, I
got I got shout out Davis while we was talking
about whiskey. Yeah take ship, yo got the case.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I got the case of the crick. They send us a.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Little okay, you heard beyond saying and I'm sending us
send us.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I heard he was on it.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I'm a little jail because I didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Get one, the first one in the star. First off,
I went to Zz's. I walked in.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It was Alice taur birthday and they just had the
beautiful display and I was like, holy ship. So I
was like, let me get a shot. So me and
my wife and what's my man name from the Yankees?
Wand and you know you.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Get too much money, you forget other rich.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Niggas crazy and his wife, his wife.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And girls didn't drink it.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
So we both looked at our wives glasses and we
were like, we're not gonna let it go the race, right,
So we took another shot.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Then we took a third shot, and I was like,
this is offish you So we went and board it.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Have you take to be on?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay? Okay, well you know what you got?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I told you some peppers what you drinking. He's straight
to kill us th straight this.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay, okay, okay, hell yeah, that's way.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
From right there.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Man.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Though he was in Miami too long, got that in
my boy, got.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Introduced everybody that's out the favorite sees.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Name and sees today. He t those she don't see.
He was the life to the dog, saying he gonna
be I'm with faith. Oh man came back. She will

(06:19):
not go away. You can't say.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yo, that's gets us the troller wives.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's not even our right.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
He was.

Speaker 9 (06:35):
He was grilling me like, yo, like yo, is it cool?
I like, I got to watch what I got to ask.
I was like, nah, nigga, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
When she she was one that episode to get back
on and off camera. Yeah, she's genuine, but she can't.
She sucked it up.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
All niggas fear that. She said every nigga feel when
the niggas get right. That's the one thing he wanted
to know.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
What's that face expression? So you're talking about how I
feeling what I got?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's like you.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Drinking them too down?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yes, all right, now take.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
What you drink? What you drinking? Grabs you said, because
last time I said, I think you had one drink
the whole episode. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, go around
the tables. Who's here, let's do that. Let's introduce it.
The birthday Lord.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Saying nothing because Kate Fox my sister, and I love
her just like I love y'all. But your niggas on
some ship. You know, I can't introduce myself. That's the
fourth host.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Take you you know what?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Money podcast dropping soon?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, yes, the hell got hostage definitely.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
To come.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I mean the drink chimps, we come with the niggas. Sidney,
did you get to this? Yeah? Uh to be that
for this? Oh they didn't get it?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay, yeah, that's that's the problem. Then, okay, yeah, that's
a good one. That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, I know you would be dot be arguing, yeah,
arguing me on camera. He didn't put the phone compensation cameras.
Come on, niggas, get too cool. You gotta keep it swagger,
get fund out. I know, I know, I just found
out that is rap and radar. So you got to
get an interview with radar.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, okay, yeah, signe Okay, Now now you went viral.
I'm bleak.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
We were all vacation in Turkey, k goes at Prince House.
I told Kate about it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Before you go. I call on my Brooklyn brother. I said, no,
my g you be in church all the time of
these with the smoke. And he said, oh nah, you're good.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Don't work.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I said, so I could bring up he said, trust me,
you Goodause I touched down.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
He hit me, Yo, you're good, said have yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't know anything. Just holler at me. Don't worry
about it. You normally got Prince Houses.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Turk's baby jam make up on the richer side, ready
to make love jamake up.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
But you see a lot of wealth.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You see, like you know a lot of black wealth
that I've never really seen.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
But as soon as we came home from.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Turks, they announced the jay Z who he picked for
the super Bowl, and I felt like you was attacked.
You you got attacked, but you went right back like
why is what swam with y'all?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Nigga? She was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Way you're hilarious on Twitter because it's like you got
to It's like, come on, man, you can't pick people
based on the city spy, then don't get me wrong.
Wayne is a phenomenal artist. Kendrick is a phenomenal artist.
But just because it's in your city don't mean you
belong to perform.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
But he didn't perform in Houston, right, Wow? Was in Vegas? Wow?
He wasn't in the A.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like I think everybody thinks that because the dre and
Snoop thing worked out perfect for l A.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Always go like that.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think that was Eminem got booked for the show. Eminem.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
People some of these niggas ship become peoples.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
With niggas all that ship.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
You can't get caught up in the city ship. You
bet you'll be having to please whoever the city the first.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Because I don't know anybody from the Sacramento, Like, so
I know this party artists, but if you've got in
the city next to the Sacramento and there's no artists, like, yeah,
forty from the bait that you got.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I mean though, that Wayne is ready for the super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (11:09):
So get caught up in the station because you don't
have to please everybody every.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Single like being a performer like I like.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
For any stadium, I believe it's a phenomenal performance.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's a difference there. Yeah, and it's crazy, it's not
he's hot. Now, what do you think if they can
bomb both of them?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
What you mean like together they if like I don't
think some of becourse of the dracause Drake don't.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I don't think that's necessary. I don't think that Drake
and then a lot of legend is some.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Real squashing beef ship at the super Bowl and he
brings up her Drake and when her rumor that, I'm
just throwing it out there, who is the who is.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Really the bigger artist out of Little Wayne and Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I don't think that's the thing I said just I
think the argument is that the saying that you should
get it's so many artists coming from New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
They have an argument.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
But the thing is right now, Kendrick is the hottest
artist on the planet. Like we can't take that away,
like no matter what. And I think that's what the
NFL and the whole association was going with.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I want to go with the hot hand.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I would listening to your show earlier, and I believe
Cam Newton like he co signed that.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
To Cam knew it said that Lil Wayne should be
performing for the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
He didn't agree with kenj before.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But what happens if the Super Bowl next year is
in Texas and then they picked Lil Wayne, right, and
then now everybody from Texas it's mad at that. You're
gonna We're going to see a bump bee blog and
you know what I'm saying, you can't get you can't
get cooking, you can't.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Everybody's crazy because you know you got to pay the
befall at the Super So niggas saying, yo, you just
you I hope y'all got that three four and going
to touch that thing.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't think you gotta pay. You don't get paid. Yeah,
I don't think you're gonna pay pay for your production.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
You are pirates?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
No, no, no, I don't think that. This is what
This is what I heard. This is what I heard.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You don't you don't pay. They pay for your production,
but basically they don't pay for nothing else, so you
like get like, I think they pay for your travel too.
But I think that's the thing is. Yeah, you just
don't get paid. You just don't get paid. But you
get that.

Speaker 11 (13:27):
Look, Yeah that looks so crazy. Don't matter that's gonna
bring you money versually, that's life. Money you about to
make after that, regardless of fact.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Because Teler Swift is sucking up sports right now. I
hope she don't go to the super Bowl. She went
to the Yankees game. I was mad, niggas loss, No, no, no,
Yankees game we won. Well, we're on fire right now.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yankees on fire, mass we.

Speaker 12 (13:48):
Want.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, we might have a.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Message, we might have a subway serious.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
That'll be in the city on fire.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
To be crazy, but yeah, I will get on the trade.
That's the way to commute.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Is that why they when they called the subah, Yeah,
because you did drive you.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Want and they're being the world serlios. So that's when
we pushed on the game.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yes, yes, and the next bis looking good to looking
what's homeboy Towns Caps Towns? Yeah yeah yeah some month.
But you know I didn't. I didn't see that till
later in the game. He dunked it and he.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Was like this.

Speaker 11 (14:23):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I was like, okay, he could funk with New York City,
because New York City you could be lit. It's still
not like like if you you gotta you gotta, you
gotta go every night, like every night. We ain't gonna
accept that one game, have you been in the garden
since the Knicks been lit again. Yeah, oh my god,
it is a different electricity.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I flew up just for the game, I know, my man.
Yeah yeah, make us think straw definitely not strong back then.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, but hold on season. I'm looking at your chain.
Is that the original? Jacob Jesus peace?

Speaker 9 (15:15):
No, No, they did it over the Okay, okay, it
is like the originally. Okay, we had to go identical
to keep it the same.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, okay, it looks it looks original. That was that
even got rocks and the big mustache.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, that is it though, like his eyes close, you know,
somebody passing the lego. Keep somebody passing the lego, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I hope I may here. You can make me as
a lego too, I think right here and that thing. No,
that's whole one of the right how they can again?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Some movie?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So card you got to see the movie, right, yes, sir? Okay,
how did you How did you feel?

Speaker 13 (16:06):
She was?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Genius? Man, very creative. It's like a documentary lego movie.
It's so like you got for best Documentary. I think, yeah,
you're gonna freak out, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wait if they want to ask her I want to.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Time I see this. Something told me that.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
He getting a learned up on the sett.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Need with Greek.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
For that ship.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Come on, take your hands over again.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I got ship, my ship clean being.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Big yo.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's why I gotta give kiss up here because I
heard we got hair drying. Let him kiss.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I don't got no bea went back and I can't
even fight.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I have no head. I can't fight back, grow back.
They're gonna clear oh roast.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I'm so sly that he went at you because you
went mostly at him, and I was going, that was you,
that was you.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, ain't gonna come on here and my ship that
you no conservative my ship all being that I should
have wanted in the puzzle given do some ship. Maybe
I just want to be creative.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I just wanted to buy my my figure. I want
to buy my figure Lego. I don't they're gonna make
minds that I'm gonna need me. I'll buy it, like like.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
We remade a sapple that was hard to get you.
Did you see hoovers a lego looking like them?

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I know they didn't kind of dirney with that though the.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Hair was not they had.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I was with them.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, yeah, how did you feel about the movie?

Speaker 14 (18:16):
Man?

Speaker 5 (18:16):
I cried, I literally cried because it was like it
made me fall in love with music again, because it
reminded you of why you're doing it. There is no
microwaveable solution to becoming a global icon.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
You got to put in the work. You got to
have passion, you gotta have you.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Got to be willing to lose it all and then
gain it all just on your talent. And that's what
this documentary really showed. And then Norwy's part was.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Just hilarious, like he was in the pool, chill it did.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
That really happen when you were in the pool?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Was yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
About to tell the truth for the I need a
free beat for this information.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Nor he wasn't feeling that he was in the movie.
Now Hey, he going to the He said, you didn't
understand you. Let me ask you, how did you do
your voice over? That's what I'm saying. I got what
it was? Was it was was he was he was

(19:22):
calling mister Lee.

Speaker 15 (19:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Were supposed to do it for a while, but I
was on the road and we was working, so I
didn't have a chance to.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I think I made him wait like six months
how long ago?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
We say, because that's like two years ago he was
working on and he didn't tell anybody I saw interviewing
he did.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
He didn't tell anybody that they were doing. Yeah, so
what's funny.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Me finish that and then I'll tell you what Teddy
Wroley said.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
But so they did it over the phone.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I knew everything we do like together, somewhat specially, so
I had Roz come over. Roz came and we filmed it.
We did it at Hazard the sound studio, and we
filmed it. So everything I did in the movie I
actually have on film and we sent to Pharrell and
I don't know if they use it or not, so
that if they have a behind the scenes but I
didn't know. He did say something about animation. But if
you would have said lego, I would have been like

(20:09):
trying to overdo it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
So I'm glad he didn't. Like at the end of
the day, you you went on him. He was in
the studio. It was a studio on the phone. How
did you know what they're saying because they was asking me.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
They was asking, so they every everything I'm saying in
the movie is me answering the question.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
They're just taking the questionnaire out. He was very I
was tapped in with the whole ship that was how
much did they use you use everything that you did?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
How much did you I'm on like three small scenes,
but like the one he was like.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Like, no, no, no, how much of you recording? I saw
it like they probably.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Used, like it's like five minutes of me.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I believe we recorded out.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, but they yeah, like it was like five questions
that I answered and then you know them showing me
in the pool, like and then meet them showing me
on a private jet.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I was like, I like.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
He got me?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Was the story?

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Would push your team that part when he was back
in the streets still playing a dope, right, But then.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I don't want to tell at.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Brought him back to life?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Okay, okay, you know that's the only thing. I was like,
why am I going to messing with nothing? That's what
I imagine.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I believe Madison is in that story, but I see
him as a lego, yeah, because I think I think
the actual movie at the time, you know, remember he
became mad religious.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
He really wasn't touching nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But ironically at that time he did offer to drink cans,
which I was like, and I was like, how are
we going to do this? He's like, you have to
still smoke and still drink. And I was like okay.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I was like, okay, you know maybe, but it's a
dope moving It was at.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
The premiere in New York. Teddy Riley was in front
of me, Man, I tell you to do drink cans.
He was like, I don't drink. I was like, hey man,
you don't got to drink. To do drink cans. Man,
although all these things is drinking.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, but you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
But yeah, you know, to connect with him and like
to see the whole Forrell's movie coming to Fruition and
his vision that ship was dope. Man. I really like,
you know, respect and want to say thank you for real.
You know what I'm saying, because you know, he could
have told his story without me. It would have been
sucked up. But he could have told it without you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Really, you know, we don't what I did.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
That's why even though Jane's saying she had it, Jan.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Said, I started to He told me I stole.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
From found you stole from stole for me?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know the song again, I think it's tough love.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I believe. I like it. Yeah, it's called tough girl
like it.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like, I'm not sure the timeline lines up with that,
because like me personally, if that was true, like if
Janet had it first, I would have never gave me
the beat maybe down, I think, yeah, I think she
must have think you what I think? I think that
was a freestyle. And because s b K pulled up

(23:38):
where she she he plays super Dug in her show,
but she plays my version.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Kate pulled it up. Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I don't she might to freeze out and tell I
like this rumor.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I don't want to straighten this out. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
This is a dope rumor like Jackson jack Ye.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Crazy. That's a good situation. That's a good room. That's
a good room, good problem.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
And imagine me and Penny work right now. Imagine he
come on drink champs to straight.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
We gotta let's go.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I can't lie to you. One time we was in
he was making grimy. He's making grimy and we was
in I forget the studio in l A and Janet
was so big that she her security walked into each
studio and told everybody you got to get out while
the queen walks through.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
So we were like, yeah, I thought it was due
Chris Light. He was like that. I was like, Chris,
this is Screenny from Good Times, man, like we gotta
go out, and I.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
For sure we're out. And then it was crazy because
I don't know why they was there, but ray J
and Brandy was in my session. So ray J and
Brandy walked out with me and and it made Chris lady,
I'll go out, but we all had to go out
until jan and Jackson walked in.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Each other.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
That he was on.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
He was like a Seventh Day Tour with with Kelly
and uh. After you can't get used to me spending.

Speaker 9 (25:24):
After he was coming through, security came and said, Yo,
when Robert come through here, nobody could look at it.
He says, government there, every Brooklyn nigga that was.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
There was just grilling, like you mean, we can't look
at you you we don't do respect. But what you
mean we can't look at you like that?

Speaker 9 (25:47):
When Robert comes here, we don't need nobody looking at
him anybody.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
To go away.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
That's different.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I sat there on purpose now like here right now,
whip like that, like certain people will tell you you
can't look at them directing their eyes only.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Say did that car on that list? Wow?

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Did it happen to you personally?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, that's the room on that's the room ran carried
on walk, Yo, Like she she floats and she got
people that carry her.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
I went to a show and.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Walk my g I'm telling you me and my wife
was in Hawaii just you know, you know we do
this travel.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
We see Mariah before me. I'm like, let's go to
Mariah carry show, yo, bro on life. She didn't take
one step on the stage. Every time she wanted to move,
she had people come pick up and move her to
this side.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That side at that time. You know, maybe.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
Like you men know, wear shoes, shoes, your feet. I
don't blame her.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
She's stand there. They'll come carry a couch, she will
sit on it there, lift the old couch with her
and moving to the other side.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
And I'm like, yo, that's that bread Nor on his
way and cuts her set.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Gonna hold the blood in his mouth.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So Cardan being that you wrote they were code writer
on hot in here If that what never you joint?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, ship, I love your come song.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Everything we didn't talk about we're gonna talk about that.
But let me ask you if that's not we didn't
talk about it, do you want to ask you to
or how that were? Okay?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Wow? You bro the engineer ones one, man, you're a
part of that. That ship is monumental. Those those awards Gray,
you said Oscar Grammy. No, I'm saying they're held in
very high and for part of that ship you apart.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
When you got the Grammy, even the engineer, Yeah, that's dope.
That's how about the interns?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, I'm able to a nigga. Man, you ain't give
me the Grammy. Nigga, I don't want to got.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
Everybody might not get the physical one, but you definitely
get certificate you get.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's you know what I'm saying. That's you don't get
a physical. Don't get the physical. I still count. But
you're a part of you ext history. Nobody could take
that from you.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's man, w.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Grammy, that's that's very I want.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, you know what, why do artists want the Grammys.
It's like a love hate relationship with the Grammys.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
With artist the Grammy should on me. You love him war,
but then they should it on me and I hate
them now you know.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's a status. It's a status. Yeah, the status, the
statement of just having one give me.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
A b a T award.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I was all awards. I said, all the war nothing
you got choice of war. I gotta I gotta know.

Speaker 16 (29:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 17 (29:41):
It's not Bene's a greater woman.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Money on his ship. And we got one more.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
We got the one of the Tito broke Yo drink
Chance my boy that went to the war guy it
and broke it and true drink Chance fashion we got
nominated for. We was against what what this is crazy?
Actors Ellen DeGeneres Saturday, We're like, we're not going to
this ship. Were picking us over them, and then we won.

(30:18):
So we sent on board to the to the thing
just because. And he's Mexican and he lived like a
Mexican and he drank the whole night and then he's
they gave us the water.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
He went up there.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And then like all that year, okay, it was like
that second year doing drinks and he went to the
he went to a club. I think he had this
joint and then in the morning he was like, sorry, guys,
make sure two pieces and then he mailed.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You know, we could have probably ordered another war. We
should do that, bro I.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Don't even know you're gonna figure it out.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Many never won a ward, but I talked ship on
a ward who.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Talk Ship Watching Team.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
The TV Awards in Japan, BT Awards, MTV and Miami
JA talk Ship. The only one that went virul is
the one where they say, this is why we got clipped.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
Here.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
That's the only one that went viral, not.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Clip every two weeks that come up and this is
the reason why the rock broke. When you see that ship,
are you proud of it?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Or yeah?

Speaker 18 (31:45):
I did not laugh?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Man. I like reading the comments.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
That's what bummed me out because you know, people we
talked about it twenty times already and still make their
own assumption about So I love it, you know what
I mean to see what niggas say.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, Bleek was talking the most. That's why you don't
funk with Bleak. That's cool. Something.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
What did he say to y'all after the cameras cut off?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
He didn't say nothing.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
It was camera, but it was before the camera cut
because remember he just got those stage.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
With Michael Jackson. So he's saying like when he was.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Looking at us, when Ralph McDaniels standing there with the
camera and he asked whole mad questions and whole they
said nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
He just staring at stair face.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
So I was just like, okay, it's my turn to
be like, yo, fuck, Dad were here.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
He didn't finally, you know, so it just went after that.
You think it's only me and Dame talking and they said, yeah,
the rock broke up.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Back there. No, who's back that, yo? Bro?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It was everybody think Clue Skang, Bobby Dash, fucking we
had the right John Rule, thieves, fucking X all in
the rest in peace to X, the rough Riders, d
n y, all of them Swiss. We was bro.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But we got a I got a picture of all
of us, like bro.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
We was deep that.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
He was over there there right. No, I was waiting
for that movie. I was on my own summer jam
at that time.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Look at he's going into the ta Okay, yeah, I'm
doing that's that's my.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Drink when I'm gonna die. I ain't been on the
die a minute. I'm like, that's why. Birthday, birthday, birthday.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Oh that's why. So we got another person in the building.
It's his motherfucking birthday. We wanted him to come over
here and have motherfucker scoop the.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
So that's what brother me birthday, birthday, birthday, man, what's up?
What's up? Jake said, telling people someone of the joints
you produced? All right? So I produced records for Snoop Dogg.
I did that.

Speaker 18 (34:12):
I want to rock that, Jay Jhondon, I did uh
you know, some stuff for Kendrick Lamar. I did that
Poetic Justice. I did the recipe on the Good Kid
Mass City album. And man, I've worked with a lot
of great people. I worked with fifty, I worked with Busta,
Eminem Dre you know quick, you know right now? Yeah,
we're celebrating the release that I just did with Damian Marley.

(34:33):
I got his new single called Banner, which, man, is
so special and meaningful to me because you know, to
align with an artist like that and really, you know,
put something together that that has a message and is
powerful like that, It's is why I do this, you
know what I mean? So it was great to collaborate
with him. Yeah, you can't forget your legendary pop. Hey, yeah,

(34:54):
my bots is a hip hop pioneer too. Man, shout
out to Kid Frost.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
That's what I mean. I've floated in some incredible spaces,
but a lot of great people.

Speaker 18 (35:04):
I've been around the culture and seeing a lot of
amazing records get made and and moments happen in time.
So you know, I'm very blessed to be here doing
this and continuing to stay afloat and do it so authentically.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
So let me ask you a question. Let me get
us just get straight into it. Let's go. How do
you feel about who you perform at the Super Bowl?

Speaker 18 (35:23):
Oh? Man, I mean, you know, I haven't really thought
about it, but I know there's room for many people
to come out and and perform. I feel like, because
you know, it's a big show, so you got to
you got to bring in a lot of viewers and
different people. So I imagine they're they're trying to link
with youth and and get more viewers to watch the
show and be engaged with that overall.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
That was a great political answer.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Drake definitely still wants some beats.

Speaker 18 (35:54):
You know what, man, It's cool man, if people want
to come rock with me, I'll be more than happy
to collaborate and build with them. Just from an artist
level for them to tell this story, give them the
foundation to really do something that that has meaning and message.
And you know, I've been around people that been making
music that last a lifetime, so for me to carry
that torch and that's that's what I'm here to do.

(36:14):
You know, I want to make everlasting music.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
First off, you've got a drink, right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Did you do what they handed me? I did?

Speaker 15 (36:21):
I did.

Speaker 18 (36:21):
I actually did a joint with you too, man. We
got a record yeah, yeah, yeah, with the flavor flave
yeah man, but yeah it's called slow Down Sun the
ha ha joint with the sort of soul sample.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yes, yes, yow York all the time.

Speaker 18 (36:43):
Everybody in New York really gave me a lot of
support and record. Everybody was believing in me at that time.
So I was pushing three four times harder with the
sample ideas and really getting creative and flipping things differently
or going right to the source and really just opening
it up like to to to do something and special.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know, I didn't know I.

Speaker 18 (37:01):
Want to Rock was going to do that. But after
I Want to Rock happen. That was your first like
major major major. I did some records previously with Snoop.
And this was like when I was about eighteen seventeen
when I first connected with Snoop and my father had
introduced me to him because they go back.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
They have a history together with Snoop Dre Easy, you
know what I mean. It was on Ruth's records, your brother,
I mean my father, Yes, yeah, yeah, he was no
but just a part of the culture.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
You know.

Speaker 18 (37:31):
Snoop was also younger than my pops at that time,
so you know, they were around my father when he
was doing shows or in sessions. They were songwriting together,
you know, working on Murder was the case. I heard
my father wrote lyrics for that with for Snap. You know,
they because they would all, you know, work in a
room together and collaborate and everybody will be throwing ideas
off of each other. So that's how some of the

(37:52):
greatest things were made. It was a collaboration.

Speaker 13 (37:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Everybody has something to contribute, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm want to go around the room and ask everybody
how they feel who should be performing at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
I just know I'm not getting caught up in the
state stuff. I don't know how I have to think
a little more about Yeah, I would I wouldn't get
caught up in that. But out of those two, out
of Wayne.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
And Kendrick general in general, Yeah, a lot of people
I would like to see before.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
But you think I personally think Kendrick does deserve this.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I think he deserves I think we all deserve it.
We all agree. Yeah, you mean they got it.

Speaker 10 (38:39):
Well book the roots. What I'm saying, even big knowledge
and considered for it is dope.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You know what. I'm at the super Bowl, but I
got a list of people I could I would not see.
But but but it to you, it's Kendrick deserving of this. Yeah,
definitely Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Guys, slaps man.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Kendrick is dope.

Speaker 9 (38:59):
Yeah, I'm just happy to see hip hop and R
and B no matter how you That's how I feel that.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's right. Yeah, that's just represented. That's good that because
the super Bowl is real tragic. When we was being
nine in now would have said, yeah, you know what
I'm saying, people put the halftime show until Titty came
out smoking go do ship. Yeah half time when he's

(39:26):
sticking down for that. Yeah, we got to give hold
some of the props for that. Because definitely we're all just.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Saying, like, you know, all of us, even if you're
not football fans, we watched the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
I only watched the game for the half.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Times and the commercials. To the commercials, so we got
to give hold of his props were stepping up the football.
That's what we start came. We start to see it.
So no matter how you look at it.

Speaker 11 (39:54):
You know, I mean, how about you, I'm gonna keep
it the ball. I think I think Kendrick deserved the
shot because he had to big ass.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, nobody.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
He had the biggest year off the year, right, So
if you if you're basing it on the most relevant
and the most impact, can't deny him.

Speaker 11 (40:08):
I'm back all but I would say, if there was
a way incorporate Wayne, do that, because Rain never got
a chance to do that. It is if it's it's
not just not based on just the city alone, but
the fact that it is the city and he's little
Wayne and he never had a chance to do that,
and it's probably his only chance that's gonna be in
his city to do that.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's never gonna it's not gonna happen again in his lifetime.
Really takes him next year, he might he might not
wise right now, he's still He's still Wayne right now.
Five years from now, he might not be where he had.
I think it would be amazing if you brought him
out on stage.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
But yeah, but I think that Ken, can we deal
with the actual fact that the smoke there's smoke, like
like by the way, is bigger than they smoke. I
agree with you if that was something that took place
behind the scenes, sees where he could bring out.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Drake and.

Speaker 10 (41:00):
Know, yeah, that's not that's like smoke.

Speaker 19 (41:05):
NDS can't bring me out to the super Bowl. Come on,
come on, they squashed that. He's still hot, but that
is still playing and that.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Like God bless, God bless because I know it could
have got there, but no one's really feeling like Kendrick
and Drake is gonna go to the streets with them.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Somebody in some.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Ways that at the end of the day, Jake got shots.
Know what I'm saying, what we're talking about, they talk
about the gut, but that's like saying, even get into
Canada right now so you can't get his hair. They
got to keep it. Abut, come on, man, when a

(41:56):
nigga shipped on you in the public, saying they shipped on,
you ship her kid.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
She already know Nigga getting that seventeen bleak dis is
now about him everywhere with every week.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
How do you come with it? You turned off? Right,
that's not but that she ain't come on bro, like
they don't got to go to the streets. You still
took you You didn't that bulletproof right then? Unfortunately, unfortunately

(42:34):
that's what that's that's not happening. That's not happening. That's
not happening. I think as the time passes and they
get older in life, maybe, but right now.

Speaker 11 (42:45):
Here's a question of what if you get that offer,
because at the time, right now, what if you get
off who getting to bring the niggas out.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Of whatever he did?

Speaker 11 (43:01):
What if Kendrick made the offer and first of all,
I can bring you niggas out, Joseph ju.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Drake, you can't offer me nothing, sir. I'm checking out.
I'm straight on all levels. You're gonna work it. So
you know that's why I say later on in life,
right now, let's get let's get that theory out of
the day. You can't throw the bad like yo, come
on my side. We're gonna take a moment about back

(43:28):
from that, what if what if you're.

Speaker 11 (43:31):
Kendrick and you will bite Wayne through the ship and
Wayne say yes, like if you Drake, are you are?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You See here's the thing. I don't even think Wayne
would even do it on the strip strength of Drake
at this point, because that's his boy. Like you know
what I'm saying. That's why it seems like that. I
don't even think that will happen just out of respect.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Wayne don't have nothing to do with that either. So
at the same time, he could be but just that moment,
even on the East because you ain't got love doctor
Snoop Dog would never know what if? What ifs?

Speaker 16 (44:11):
And if not, Cab already made his decision, already made
his decision, already made that decision like that, I.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Don't fucking know if Wayne touched that stage with Ken Drake,
him and Drake will never be friends again.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
So what I'm saying I gotta be heard. It is like, like,
all right, so you're.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Gonna choose the super Bowl over your dog. I don't
give a funk who was on that stage. I'm with
the dogs.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's a big So you're saying because we're still going
around you saying Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Does deserve this hands down.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, it's his moment, you know what I mean, it's
his moment. But everybody told about he should bring Wayne.
Now know he's shouldn't I say that it would be nice,
It would be nice.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You can't.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
It's not a.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
It's possible, bro the times man, you gotta think about it. Man,
think of all the smoke in the city. Yo, it's
no way. So you're trying to tell me, I bleeve lea.
You think John Rubo go to a fucking Tony Ao show.

Speaker 12 (45:24):
No, but it's it's not even if it's wimboos opening
in Queens be like, I don't give a fluff hell no,
reverse to.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
The other way around.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I think the timing of this up and that's means
well and so they deep is real. Let's not even
get into that. I knew with you and listen, Karman,
since it ice Cube beef, it's been dead it on.
But I took fair come to dead that.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
You ever seen them niggas at each other show? You
ever seen common in the ice Cube movie?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And he got asked coming movie shut you down? Like that, Yeah,

(46:21):
over that ship. I'm not I know that. That's what
I'm talking about. On strip of Lloyd in the paper.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Wayne is never done to that man. He's loyal to
his team. Why am C m B.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
You can't go against that. You can't just for the look.
I think I agree with Blake. I think you're saying,
but listen.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Listen, you gotta debt it across the board.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Then, man, it's not going to lose.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
They found it's a lot of unpower and it's a
lot of unpack.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I'm saying a.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Lot the unpacks jeopard the foundation of the family.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Look, because what if the powers that be No, no, no,
you too hypothetical. Now you's to even no no hell
that the booking nigga, listen your book. I think we
underestimated the level small too much. Listen, and this is
the underestimating.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
I think.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
The level before that, the biggest boy was was Nods
to Jay. But they got cool. But you can't even
compare them to to each other.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Why I was thinking about that we were they got
cool because listen right way, listen, but this is not
people is fifty fifty with the Jay and Nods. It's
people that say, Jay One, it's people that say nods.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
That sorry please.

Speaker 12 (47:43):
With that.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
You know, it's niggas out like a fifty fifty. It
was like, okay, remember what you want to say for

(48:05):
this game?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So how about you? How do you feel about Kendrick
having that position?

Speaker 5 (48:09):
You know, I think because of the time and the
way that he diabotically made Drake bow down and think's.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Been winning full long time, I'm.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Feel sorry for I'm just talking about strategically, how he
came back back to back. He tore his manhood apart
and then it was just like a crazy lyrical beef
that happened, and then they're not like us was the
icing on top estimating that. You know what I'm saying,
I think it's Kendrick's time.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
If he tell them it's a week on Kendrick's side,
they even invite them.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
You just came, hoped anybody at the gangster party.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
You came and made the gangsters a corny and you're
going to invite them to the party.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
You promo the super Bowl that he did was also
kind of like shot.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
It was this is because you don't Kenny be thinking
on Tondra's detailed detail. He recreated General Patton from World
War Two doing the speech to the soldiers talking about
invading and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You know, he created that, but he was like he
had the football machine. She said it because you hold against.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Trying to What I was saying is that, dude, Yo,
bro the beef when is one sided. It's not nobody
talking about yo, Drake wanting to be everybody's.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
With the hoving nods. It was fifty fifty people going back.

Speaker 15 (49:33):
And forth with.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
They't like just take over hot Takeover came out first before.

(50:03):
That was hard. This is what this is what ya yo.
Let me tell you what I'm shocking. Yo. Listen, not tall.
He didn't invite me now, but now you nigga's not

(50:26):
gonna do it. This is what when I asked you
was fine. When I asked you see how the times.
My question, y'all is the time and at the time
of this fight. So you see how one song could
come out then the other song. That's why if Takeover
came out before, So I want to ask y'all, at
what point because for me, Drake was kind of winning
the battle. They're not like us. Just they're not like us.
Just just took a life to his own.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
And and.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
That's what I'm saying. Crazy d was snapping to.

Speaker 18 (50:59):
Snap.

Speaker 11 (51:02):
I said, when Meet the Grahams came out, I didn't
have about a Lancelot landslide.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I still thought it was a battle like okay, when
I like, I was not like that was the last
one like us. The first time I heard, I said,
this is gonna shake something.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I don't know, man, but Drake got some of the
hardest what I'm saying, like the records in battles, and
they say he lost both.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Freestylish crazy too a fact, who is that against pushing? Yeah, yeah,
well we got to give it up for jusye for going.
It's really like going out here. Listen, it's really like
he won out here. We really got it, We really
got to.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
He takes off the.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Hendrick win draw. He's with the ships. Couldn't be too.
Kendrick got that respect because.

Speaker 12 (51:51):
Of that.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Focus on them.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
J Cole just released a freestyle. He released a freestyle
addressing the situation about that situation, situation him stepping in
that Beau.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I love my brother rock for life, but now you
can't do that. But you can't Yeah, you can't say
double dutch he is bad about the situation because the
nigga is fucking phenomen.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Like.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Niggas really cannot funk with that. Boyn't get busy.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
So you cannot and you can't say yo, I don't
want to fight, but how to funk the niggas up
the tomorrow like the next day, be like, yeah, if
I fought them, know how to funk them up?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
He dropped something, He dropped the record, but no, no
before that before but he apologized. But he did drop.
He did, he stepped up, he did something. Sometimes you swing,

(53:01):
sometime you could think ship through. Sometimes you got leship register.
Maybe you can talk about.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
You talk about him to swinging. But on some ship
that could even able to apologize.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Right on some m C ship, we know it's not
duck in the face like that. Let me know something.
He capable of getting crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But let me ask you something. Let me ask everyone something.
Why didn't Kidred go back? Why did why did kid
respect his apology? Because an apologies go back.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
For what you like bullying?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
After that.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Said you swung at me, but he said, you ain't connect. Yeah,
it's all right for me to swing, man, I ain't
gonna anybody.

Speaker 20 (53:45):
Jason you consider him running not in that sense, but
it's like your relation. It could have win.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Day like I said, my brother, that's the family. Those
guys both both.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Load that way because it could have went.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
It could have went, so who you did would win.
When in the k they call battle.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
It's like Kanye said, we would never know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yes, we'll never know this that night. You need to
be a stablished You can't battle now like you.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
I'm glad he bout out though I.

Speaker 15 (54:31):
Respect it, don't.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
It's just he's in a different space period.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I respect it. I respected, I respected it, but you
wanted to define.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
The group man in me that's married with children. It's like,
I respect that, respect that if you don't touch right
with your soul.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
But then in the battle rap with me, you.

Speaker 15 (55:00):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Bro anywhere?

Speaker 10 (55:05):
Then the space of his life, Yeah, ultimately he's like
great space. But it's like my life, you're entertainment.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
This is in the way happened.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
Ultimately is my life, you're entertainment. This is what other exempts?
What other example do we have in great hip hop battles?
That was going three ways?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
That'd have been crazy, Eminem Dre it was a whole person. Shannon,
Chris j and in the first instrut share their care rest.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
A lot of people forget about her, poet and just Ice.
So it did trickle down to the other day.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I mean that's it was a few that was like that.
Talk about Freddy Fox chasing niggas. Yeah, Chase having done
he was outside. He made a lot of my old

(56:05):
g I used to.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Look up to be like, Damn Son, get busy and
nigga come outside the club.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Niggas put on them skatee.

Speaker 21 (56:13):
En.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I like it. Shippias ain't wanting where him.

Speaker 11 (56:25):
Let me at this though, I think of hip hop.
You can't du no faith even if you want to.
I understand what beef does.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Its stressful. Nobody signs if you want to be for everybody.
Was about everybody about a minute. Got everybody want to

(56:56):
smoke ship given o smoot stressful and it disrupts your piece.
I know what they Cole was ducking from. But you can't.
And it's not just J Cole, anybody.

Speaker 11 (57:07):
If you a top ten nigga or your nigga shooting
at you, you're saying I'm the best. Brendan smoke Brenan
smoke and a Nigga Brennans moke. You can't say I
don't want to smoke. You almost willing to yourself. You
can't put yourself in the straw.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
We got to ask ourselves. I've seen a picture with
you and Lloyd Banks together.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, well that was since after you came on Drink
Champ right now reason Okay, So, so what happened? Because
you do a lot of shots at Lloyd Banks. At
one point, you do shots and people. You talked about
the g and the story when we went up to
the office. How was this encounter with you and Lloyd Banks? Now?

Speaker 2 (57:41):
It was mad piece Banks, heavy heavy you.

Speaker 17 (57:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, As a matter of fact, you said that on
the show.

Speaker 11 (57:54):
You're trying to create a record that's perfect for me
and him. Right now, okay, I think I was shake.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Queens don't talk. You're gonna about your yeah problems. I'm
gona approach yet I'm battle on the record. I don't
want to battle. You don't want to.

Speaker 13 (58:09):
Go with him.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I wanted I wanted to be some queen ship. Okay,
I want to I want to ride the queen ship.
So y'all both knew y'all was at the same place.
So how did this We're gonna have a thirty eight
spents video show. Oh okay. I was happy to see
the neigba be.

Speaker 11 (58:24):
Shop energy was great, Like, I don't want to battle
with that man, No, I want to do some queen
ships from my body.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I got the queen's had on. Now got Devin. Yeah
you don't have no ship though. Yeah, you gotta talk.

Speaker 13 (58:49):
That.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
That's one of the.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
That's one of my favorite that's one of my favorite
eras in hip hop was and you know it's it's
not it's not really how they how they went about it.
First off, they was at the top. It was it
was inevitable for them to crash heads at some point.
It wasn't about how they went about the battle. It's
about how they fixed the battle. That makes it dope,
you know what I'm saying. Like the fact that they
both are fucking businessmen and neither one of them have

(59:13):
to fucking rhyme right now, it's like that shit is dope,
you know what I mean to me?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
So like like I love that. That's the reason why
I know I saund naive.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I mean, one of the first times I had somebody
laugh at me so so hard on the show was
I told Remy Ma, I was like, yo, I wish
and it is ironic they got a terror squad chain
on today. I got the Lewest Terrat squad's chain and
I got a terror squad cha right, So I asked
with me Ma, I told her, not asked her.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I told her.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I said I still missed the original Terror squad and
she was like the original members and she was looking
at me and I was like, yeah, because you know,
we didn't want to say a certain names or certain names.
And I was like, yes, I remember it. And I
was like, I actually wish that they can squash it
and get it together. When I tell you this woman
laughed at me so hard. I think I edited it
out the episode. He was just like, I gotta tell

(01:00:02):
in her mind, she was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Like, what are you dumb?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I can tell she was saying that to me. But
I'm a naive thinker, you know what I'm saying, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Think eventually you think culture ship, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
I think eventually Kendrick Lamar and Drake will squash it
and make one of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
The biggest records of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
And they may not though you know why, because they
this is I just told you my night. You think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I'm saying around in that type of ship I feel,
I see, I know you know. But let me ask
you this. Ro hold, hold hold, let me ask you something.
You got to ask you something history too, And what
do you think who do you think goes crazy? Big
and Pop? It never went the violence? Do you think
Big and Pot would eventually had squashed their beef? Yeah,

(01:00:56):
I think they were already.

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
Any of these rumors that they talked like shortly before
park past, No, No, that's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I don't know about that because.

Speaker 7 (01:01:05):
There's all these crazy things say, Oh, they actually spoke
and they were trying to squash it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:10):
I don't know about nothing but talking to each other. No,
it was other people around situations. This is before phones and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
All that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
But people need to understand that.

Speaker 9 (01:01:21):
You knew that had foul in certain places that could
actually put certain people together, and it could have been
possible in the strength of one person.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
That's how it was in them times.

Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
If it was a live motherfucker back in them days,
you have some power when people respected you, would you
win where you from?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
You mean like a O G stepping in?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
You think that one person could have been who you
think that one person could have been that could have
squashed it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:44):
I mean, it could have been it could have been
a few. It could have it could have been a few.
It could have been people from there that we might
have not knew about that had that type of power
in LA. But there's a lot of people in New
York that could have say that could have made that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
You know, Jazz.

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
Late Great Chat, of course, Jazz and some of the
other gangs at that time, and Tupac, they were starting
like almost like their own street coalition where they were
unifying all the gangster in the communities around the country.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Because that's a black hands right in jail should call
all through the princess them in the streets.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
But they were gonna unify all the street guys to
police themselves and in so many words, around the country.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
If that kind of order was brought to the streets,
nigga would have been unified.

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
And I don't think that police and affairs going a
lout that kind of power amongst blacks at all. They
let me get this nigga up out of here, you
know what I'm saying. So some unification was gonna come
about with that type of ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
They both expected artists in them times like.

Speaker 21 (01:02:43):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It was shipped like y'all was coming like Nigga all
that ship.

Speaker 9 (01:02:47):
We other people coming in starting to make you pick
situation as anybody ride.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
It was hard for Knock when other people starting to
add on.

Speaker 9 (01:02:59):
You start to make it's something small people to talk to,
a small politics for it, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You really other people took it on and it's spreading right.

Speaker 8 (01:03:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:03:07):
But that ship was real though, So it's cool that
we could talk about hip hop beef in this kind
of manut the way we talk about and say we
won and won back in the days, but actually.

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
We got this and at the table the person that
lost the most in a hip hop beef was right, right,
So we got to be understanding that.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
You know what I'm saying, I want what's part of
the movie like, so you know, towards the end, it
was like, yeah, I was getting threats and ship was that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Is that real? At the same time that he passed.

Speaker 9 (01:03:38):
In real time, you being clubs, you be walking around
Nigga ro Rode passing the car, yeah, west side in
the mall.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
So it was like it was like the whole gang
coature was against I remember, I remember, God bless me.
I remember after Biggie died, whether you wanted to or not,
if you went to l A, your record will high
security for you no matter what. And it was like
it was like smoke at that time, like like all
of us was like, for lack of a better term,
I don't want to stay scared, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Definitely nervous, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Definitely nervous because we just felt like it was a
war against all of us. And me actually made a record,
so I'm like a red alert armist alert bro. Like
I was like, you know what I'm saying, Like you chose.
I remember Going Ahead was so smarter than all of us.

(01:04:34):
I remember, I remember Going Sees was right next to
Big and because I ain't gonna lie for Big being
the king of New York and the Tunnel being the
roughest club in America, not New York, the roughers club
in America, and it would just be Big and Seas
and I'm like this, they didn't even need security. That's
how much New York loved him. And I came to him,

(01:04:57):
I was like, yo, we went backing back at him.
And he was like huh and he was like, and
you know l A l A didn't come out yet
because it was for a bad boy mixtape with Stretched
Armstrong was was hosting, and Big was like, nah, a
little homie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
He was like, yo, because you know what they accusing
me of. I didn't do and I didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Like how intelligent he was at the time, like like
he knew this was sponsor him co signing that will
will help engage into into the war.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But let me switch it up, escalated, let me switch
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
At one point, Tupac switched his energy and he was
somewhat coming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
At jay Z for some time. How did how did?

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
How was that he was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Come to After he was he said, I'm gonna tell
you all about it, right and he said in the
same like around that same he was like fu jay
Z from the Hawaiian Sophie fame.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
This was all on the Macafelly album when the smoke
with them was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Going on, Yo bro on on guard leaving the strip
club Coco's in miam Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
They used to sell a bootleg tape out there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
He chances before maca the Magavelli album, even dropping Nigga
had it, So I'm like, oh, get it because I
want to hear it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Getting the vans. Remember this is when Jay was riding
in the turtle Top, So you don't know, you don't
know what you want to hear. No, never heard the
story right by the way you blet, I wasn't. I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I wasn't on you getting it wasn't even out yet.
We're still trying to get on. So I get in
the turtle Top, you know what I mean, I put
the tape in and that ship getting to the part.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah funk jay z too, no Ja said what he said? Yeah,
So I'm like, y'all, I just got the two album
way how hard they was going because at this time

(01:07:09):
he did not go at the mcavelly. But then and
that the whole was back there steaming like ship.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Did y'all like feel the tape?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Can you listen to listen? Was doped?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
J did a free style on the hell Mary joint? No,
not on hell Mary, It's on the Tracy Lee joint.
He was on the Tracy beat and he performed it
one time at the Apollo, but God blessed Pop died
and Jay never put the regular. I wanted or I

(01:07:48):
wanted this to come.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Out and I ain't gonna front.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I was so sick when it was when the when
the beef was going on season, my niggas and and
they had the Outlaws, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
It was like, I can't get in this.

Speaker 9 (01:07:59):
I'm I wanted the record because want big, don't want
nobody to say nothing that was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Big strategy, Like Big Strategy was chilly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
You couldn't they was something broke.

Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
Just I'm bro I'm chilling. But Big light chap every
now and then even Okay, I hear you, because that
was the competitive spirit and big ship. But Big new
that ship could have gotten out of hand. We were
just very connected with a lot of There was just
a lot of people around that was really solid people
that was in the streets.

Speaker 22 (01:08:32):
This is not we're not talking about this. You had
to really like you was riding around with your real yelling.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
That's a fact.

Speaker 23 (01:08:45):
He was skating out of it scores none of that
young days.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
That's a fast Saturday kid.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Kid for the record, don't fail me out. Who shot
the record?

Speaker 12 (01:08:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Who shots? It's not about shot that's probably been done.
People know that record was done before, and the DJs
all that we had that record months before, you.

Speaker 15 (01:09:08):
Know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
It just still sounds like it. It's like even though
you can tell you you could tell I mean people
who asked of their No, I'm talking about people who
listen to it now, who's just like when they hear it, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Just you can't be by nobody else. I can't convince
them that.

Speaker 14 (01:09:28):
I can't convins the subject of the record psychologically, and Big.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Never addressed it except for one time.

Speaker 9 (01:09:35):
That verse he's already done that one time thing line
he said at the beginning, who shot you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Boor pop got shot? That ship was already recorded from
every J album? What them lies? That first vers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
We had that the one time addressed a little bit
he said that Faith had twitters, she probably had tupac.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yes, that was that record, that was promis That was record.
What time is the beef cooking at this point? Where
where is that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
Digging in the crate right now? So for those people
that don't know what was the wrecking about?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
What it's about nobody?

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
That's why we want to believe that it's not about pop.
That was a very passionate It sounds perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Get the time the number one that you know seriously
like they was that no about everything comes from somewhere. Yeah,
it was for somebody. It might not have been for
popped the people on it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Okay, times is crazy, bro, that.

Speaker 10 (01:10:51):
You got to tell them that Michael Jackson's story before
before it's over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Okay, you keep going. But we got to be Michael B.
G And Michael Jackson. We was on what was this
clubhouse somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I always tell us a nigga to tell his story,
tell the story.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Gotta tell you gotta tell them. I got because I wasn't.
I think it's that serious. You gotta tell it. You
gotta tell it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:20):
When Big at the song with Mike, he was let
me before I say anything. They was joking about this situation, right.
He was going to record his verse for the Michael
Jackson song, and it was a it was a bunch
of us, a few of us, you know me probably
a few heads.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You know, like the goons, and Big was going to
do business. He got a good check.

Speaker 9 (01:11:38):
He was like, yo, listen, I'm going ahead lay my
first down real quick with Mike. Everybody can sit in
here and just chill.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I ain't bringing a bunch.

Speaker 9 (01:11:45):
Of niggas in there, and Big said, yeah, you definitely
can't come trust him with the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yo, this to you did to me yo, nig when
I was younger. You don't know this, but apation, I

(01:12:11):
don't you think that serious. I wanted. I'm a little kid.
I wanted to meet Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
That's yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
He's like, yo, yo, wow, come on, you're come in yo, chill.

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
Yeah, but he was joking. Yeah, I ain't going. I
didn't get to go meet like this big window right
there back then when you can.

Speaker 18 (01:12:39):
See like the room.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
That back and I'm in the joint like no, Mike, like, bro,
you didn't let me like yeah, yo.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
That I can tell you on some g ship. I
used to tell who your don't show me out like
Big shall seas out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Man, don't do that. You know he's got the most
fires should out for me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
I s what.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
You made me look at whole like you better not.
Don't don't move like that. Know if he is that bleak. No, No,
he was my dog that no, don't mind. I was like, yeah, sees,

(01:13:42):
that's some boo ship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I'm meaning like man, a little broch. It's hard like
that ain't happening to me.

Speaker 13 (01:13:53):
Like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I used to be a strongest ripple beats a little
like I ain't driving. I mean, Jesus real, I know
that was how I couldn't even come back if I
wanted to a writer. Your mama.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Help me help me this next week.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
So without her, I'm like, damn man, that nigga big
doing my dog man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
But that's bro ship that has real li ship. I
was the only young in around that could really control
the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
I was thirteen.

Speaker 9 (01:14:42):
I had this crazy I got to come town like
he literally would wait for me to do something. Now
I'm not performing too, my little brother here, I don't
give who yo you ready boy, playboy?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
You ready be like nah nigga to my little nigga,
get here. I'm not stepping on that stage to he here. Yeah. Yeah,
it was like that apollow these niggas, that's apollow. I
remember that.

Speaker 15 (01:15:12):
Going.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
That's the other spot where they got the big out
on the pink. He was thirteen. I b at home.
It was nobody my age around. I'm with a bunch
of grown ups, so it's not it's going to make
shows around. So yeah, eighteen.

Speaker 9 (01:15:27):
Nineteen, I'm longing how to adapting the environment of nineteen
and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Right, he was figure popping earl. Oh my god, yah,
two niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I used to sit on the sideline and be like, oh,
we try to get off because y'all niggas was outside.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
That was outside means left right to see you you
go to Brooklyn and Marcy though he don't know the side, right,
he ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
The niggas got a bunch of benzes cruises. I'm doing
the other side, Like, hold on, what are they doing
in my practice?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Hold let me let me ask you something. How about like,
but let me ask you something. How about how about
the best aquarium the bad style quarry. Yeah, you see
the best star quarium with the little fishes. Yeah, you
see that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
You ain't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
You ain't been in Brooklyn a long time, Blake. Yeah,
they got a little and you know, you know, niggas
violated it. And when when they redid they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
They got a little squares and in the fire hydrant
and the fire hydra. Yeah, but it's how you know,
Brooklyn niggas is still fouled. Somebody violated it, drove a
car thraight through it. Yeah, But this is how you know,
but there's also Brooklyn. Niggas were hard things. Was out
there catching the little btle fishes. Catch Yeah, it's kind

(01:17:06):
of Kiss went to go see it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Kiss went to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
It was crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:17:12):
I was like thinking about you. You you Jay's protege base,
I know, seeing it between his energy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
That's dope. You my port nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Let's look about let's talk. Somebody told me the other day.
They was like, you know, bleak is the first five
hundred thousand or take the whole dinner on coming of
age because he opened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
You a g and you get a thousand back for free.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Yeah, I'm glad. I take that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Like, yeah, take that band. This is a true story.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
No, okay, it's just a metaphor in life. Bore the money.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Faster and faster. Nobody take the money. I'm giving you
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
In the album A thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
This is later this Yeah, that's that's the whole Okay,
this reasonably hold a becoming a wow, reasonable doubt. Niggas
slept on reasonably reasonable downs. I was broke. I think

(01:18:31):
it was really I want to, I mean, his skill
level match, but but I think I think I think
it was really I think it's b I used to
be out.

Speaker 16 (01:18:46):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Ship with niggas. Don't know how much Big Biggie, how
much inspired Hole Big. We used to study these niggas.
Man Big with the would listen and be like, no,
how he doing no killing. It's the same way, the

(01:19:07):
same way, Yeah, the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Yeah, Like.

Speaker 10 (01:19:12):
People don't know that though Man Big Big would say, no,
this nigga better than me sometimes like I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:19:17):
Saying, he got me on this, Like yeah, that's we
were supposed to have the commission, the commission.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I was thinking about if that would have trans for real?
But what was the commission?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
That was just Big and Jay?

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
It was it was it was me, Charlie, Big and
Jay and and and like I was like the person
that was Uncle Paulie, that was gonna bout the bill together.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
So on what's beef? He say, the whole commission man,
and that was gonna be a project. Slim was whole.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
He was gonna be crazy man victory he said in
the commission. Yeah, let me recently, I said, recently, Yeah,
I seen it recently that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
They said in the commission that Jay was going under
iceberg Slim because he was trying to leave Rock and
Feller back.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Thenis that is that they said was trying to leave
James Tia. He didn't even want to wrap retire. He
only wanted to drop one album and leave the game.
That was his whole vision was I'm dropping one album
and I'm done. But then the success went so crazy
that it turned into a whole career. But that was

(01:20:31):
his vision was I'm done. So he was done before
reasonable doubt was was gonna be it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
We're so glad that didn't happen. But that was his
hustler mentality though.

Speaker 11 (01:20:43):
Jay Z was the blueprint to a lot of ship
like like as a creator, right, if I got not
there to do an accent or some type of difference
on the record, I'd be like, I don't know if
I could do this and do it, I'm like, okay,
it's okay. Hold the blueprint is so much ship for
a nigga like me coming up learning how to rap.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
He did it. Then it's like, oh, it's okay to
do this. I mean you learn how to push this together.
Hold was the blueprint for a lot of niggas. Bro
his power, his power on Coach's Crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:21:10):
But since before he was even whold right now, just
the fourth like this had like niggas made you put
on a jersey, take off the jersey, put on the
button up, take off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Niggas didn't know what the four point four points his
court think. Give a fuck to be walking? You want
a four point oh nigga beat it, but you wanted
a bus.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
I mean even just the way of thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
I didn't know what reasonable doubt meant. The phrase mets right.
He was a kid when I was a kid. I
didn't know that met in the court of law. If
there's a reasonable doubt you've beating that case, you gotta
the way that you gotta imply something. I don't understand
what that mess. So even reasonable doubt being the name
of his.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Album, you got to think about how they how they function.

Speaker 24 (01:21:51):
Yes, and they was young, Yeah, everybody, you look at
everything like thirty years old.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
You know it was a different error, man, it was
a different affent time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I can't get to be kids longer now. My son
twenty two, and I still look at him like you're
a kid. Twenty two already bought my third house.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
It's kind of the way it's supposed to be, Like
it's the lux Like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Sixteen I was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I was driving around and sp already like come on,
you know, like turn them up, turned them up. Turn
You had no choice. Season world up. Ain't no I pads.
You had to be out the big world. There was

(01:22:41):
rolling much going on. You have to be the hustler.

Speaker 11 (01:22:46):
Was niggas ro Moda's like, we grew up with dad
and I don't know if you go with your dad
in the house, but hustler, know what the fuck my
pops is?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Fuck you might.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
There's a lot of hip hop hay at this table,
so thank you for having me. I need to know
when did you guys fall in love with hip hop?

Speaker 15 (01:23:08):
When you know?

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
When you knew that it was either Sinker swim, like
you had to do this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Can I go first? I just I don't know if
it was Secer Swim.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
But I wish, I mean, I always said this, but
you know, I wish I gave this guy his flowers
on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
But it was Granddaddy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I you And when I first heard he said, I
knew a girl named Kenya from West Virginia, and boy,
would I like to stick something in it? And I said,
I don't know what the fuck, he just did.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
But I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
I want to put silver boods together and words together
like that. And although I've never rhymed like Granddaddy you
because back then, to rhyme like a person that you
look up to is so corny. So I had I
developed my own style. But boy, that was the first
time I fell in love with hip hop and I
wanted to be like him so bad he was and
he was the first person with a smooth operator like
and yeah, I wasn't smooth at all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Okay, everybody, Well, I'll say.

Speaker 11 (01:24:11):
That my first uh love hip hop was when I
heard Allmatic and I was too young to understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Keep it honey.

Speaker 11 (01:24:18):
When I first person her hath Matic, I didn't get it.
I thought it was whack because I was too young
to get it. And when I kept playing i was
little old, I was like, this ship is amazing, and
I really got into it. That's why I really felt
love it. But I want to throw this little jel
out too. When I made the joint with us in
the beginning, when I say I'm the King of New York,
I'm channeling whole nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
I'm rapping like hold on that record. He don't really
know that I'm talking my ship.

Speaker 11 (01:24:38):
I'm thinking like jay Z when I'm making this record,
I'm rapping like ho over my brain, nigga, dass.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I gotta say that real quick. I got my ship
is different when you first fell in love with hip hop? Yeah,
it's that's the question.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
R K fark Yes, yes, so just you knew that
you had to do it like you breathe it, you
live it, you eat it, like listen, just.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Just watching my brother play all the music he played
and then you know your brother mean the whole or
your other brother dre my blood Okay, okay, like you
know he listened to everybody older brother. Yeah no, no,
no no, you just used to play raps in the
crib public end to me like African bad body all that.
I remember being young, being like who the fuck is

(01:25:18):
these niggas talk about Bill Brad Bill black Kid like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I don't know, trying to recruit.

Speaker 8 (01:25:30):
Me, like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
But it wasn't in toil. It wasn't look like me,
like nah A B C.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Chris crossed And then I'm like, wait a minute, he's young.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
They ain't outside like me though I'm pushing packs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
You had your clothing backwards.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Never that was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
You got cloud him out. Never.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
But yeah, those winning two I seen people look like me.
That's what made me say, oh ship, I could do that,
you know what I mean? Like definitely, I gotta give
it up to Jamaine Dupree because if it wasn't for him,
you know, pushing Chris Cross the brag, you know, that's
what made everybody else sign all the other groups Like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Now you know what I mean, I'm gonna go. I'm
here thinking while you're talking, I gotta go with LL
cool Jay. That's what you fell in love, fell in
love you remember the song was that it could have
been on bad.

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
White like this way when I saw when I saw LL,
I said, holy ship.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Right, No I love them looking from queens, but I
gotta status. He's yeah, this whole ghost when you first
fell in love with him though he was already.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Got no, no, this whole that's just I'm just want
toller the whole ship ship, this whole go go go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Everybody throws around go go go.

Speaker 10 (01:27:03):
That comes from LLL so spend the block right So
for me, ll cool Ja whatever whatever, what at whatever
point could have been any love could have been my
radio and I'm not I'm I'm still young radio here,
but that's that impact. Let me know, how around I
was like, damn this nigga like yo, I don't see

(01:27:25):
that no life skins ship, But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
L L is one of the goats.

Speaker 18 (01:27:30):
Bro's probably like you know my top five for sure
run DMC k R S one. You know, I mean
I grew up listening to a lot of great mcs
and people that stood from movements. So you know, for me,
I mean I really appreciate that and and seeing those
those cultures happen with fashion and all of that. Like, man,
there's a lot of special things that happened in our culture. Man,

(01:27:51):
I are still here today, and if it wasn't for that,
we wouldn't have a lot of things that are popping
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
You walked around with the African piece, Yeah, had an
African piece, the Jamaican bells, with the Jamaican bell they
you have, I don't think they had.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I don't think they had. It wasn't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Those pieces still against me for the culture pieces.

Speaker 9 (01:28:19):
Yeah that was a movie man talking about being a
kid like yeah, like music ship that app stepping and
thirty one, start.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Coming when you first love that's what you said just
about kid media money went when when when when.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Being an empire road hip hop hip? He said, first
from the love of hip hop? Yeah, just here was
just even it young nine years old. Your brother coming
home from school, coming home.

Speaker 9 (01:28:50):
From work, he said, he get his back wounded over
the box sixteen batteries.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, he's playing ship, he's You're just hearing a little
bit of everything. You just even though even like the
old the same President of the records to ship, you
really just listen to the radio record from the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
But like you know a lot of people, you know everybody, everybody, okay,
a lot of Yeah, that's right, you need to say.
I asked the question.

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
I know four older brothers and they're all DJs, but
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
Sure President. I think it was when she when resident
I thought it was a donut she tried to clean.
I was like, what just that beat when it came on,
just like yeah, it was hypnotizing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
Since then I was I was, I was stuck, so
I couldn't get out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
That's artist hit me like that, like rand Pool, but
I used to I was like.

Speaker 23 (01:29:51):
The chance for Tommy Hill Fingers, the Punchline artists The
Girl a song called The Problem.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yes that ship first, remember y'all Remember ship, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
I just don't get exactly that's my song.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
He had kids come in from the fifty second project
and we're saying a hook anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Yes, I'm the oldest one to tell you about. Think
so by a couple of years from you. Okay, damn
so bro.

Speaker 15 (01:30:47):
Me like we we caught.

Speaker 7 (01:30:50):
So when you're growing up in the eighties, you you
hip hop before even knowing you hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
We break that. That's what it says a hip hop.
So you're just living it right before.

Speaker 7 (01:31:06):
I'm a skater, but I got a boom box, I'm
doing graffiti, I'm frank dance under all that. But the
music that when it went it, because before that it's
just rap music and you're doing all this other ship.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
When they hit you to groups that hit me that,
I was like, Joe, this is incredible. And it was
n w A and Public Enemy, so it was not
it was just.

Speaker 7 (01:31:26):
The groups because that was to me, the first time
that I heard an emotion in the music of rap
music that was like transcending.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I was like, yo, this is crazy. They making me mad, scared, worried,
like everything they always say public Enemy got some of
the hardest, the hardest content. They got some of the
hardest content. They got something conful Enemy in the videos

(01:31:58):
they was content. Yeah, and flavor Flavors a fucking legend.
Yeah yeah the Olympics for Flavors in the Olympics. Question

(01:32:19):
I wanted that, fut I'm gonna ask a couple of
all the other questions you can. You can answer whichever
way you want. The greatest h hype man the hip
hop that's a good question. I don't know about Rock.

(01:32:45):
I can't say it was the greatest.

Speaker 11 (01:32:46):
I know that me and my me and my hype man,
we my my nigga Max Wayne were miles up after
Boston slips.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
So I'm gonna get okay watching that said, everybody up
yet bring this is one person. He was really part
of the group. He wasn't really a hype man, but
he didn't wrap a lot r P freaky time. He's

(01:33:20):
the hype man. We could count one, he can count account.
I'm just holding you down. And then he clipped me
one boy, because you fad me holding the damn didn't
he saw Kanye Blue.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
I guess Kanye get anybody himself and nobody or just
smoke him and smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Yeah, he killed every time. Different energy. The hype Man.

Speaker 25 (01:33:53):
I feel like he was one of the eoys, the boys,
the boy no no, no, no, that he had a
specific guy that was his high like his brother, right,
wasn't his brother man, but this one I always six
times it was hype Man, but I don't remember.

Speaker 10 (01:34:07):
The dude's going for a heavy d is an honorable
mention for her, for that hippy thing, for that hip
hop thing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Heavy his belt that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Flowed and he made he made the fat man fly.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
To say that they was.

Speaker 26 (01:34:27):
The first ROUNDE movie, was the first rapping movie. And
what I'm saying going that they went to a n S.
The fab was actually no, they don't not say anything.
They actually fly and they actually did go to that
day they were but they was on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
They was on commercial time.

Speaker 10 (01:34:50):
Was the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Was an early time I saw this. It was the
first round with movies.

Speaker 12 (01:35:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
That's freaky tar like really like freaky tar Man. I
don't think there's nobody like like. And I'm saying that
and I started time would be the first negative record.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
The alam.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
There wasn't just lost in my head, but when when
they we can't forget that was amazing setting Dog from
hype man because it was quite but because he became
an m C. He was always an m C. Really okay, okay,
dope man, I was thinking Dog crowd too. You know

(01:35:44):
they did a lot of great hype ship for snoop.
Oh that's right. Love them boys is the reason the
Little Boys that Don't Food album what.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Stranded on death roll Money and her Corrupt dazz and
now ras listen changed the whole game, went home, tore
my whole rap book up.

Speaker 22 (01:36:08):
What the fucking round about the broke Ships verse on which.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
The chronicle is that thousand and one doctor dre the
d R e yes still okay, but I'm talking about
dads and Corrupt that before the yeah from and that
ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Corrupt went on the West and became like the first
west lyrical nigga, but really was from the East, right,
some bullsh I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
That she did some bullshit too. You know, somebody can
google this ship, right, somebody n know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
He works for feed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Who's the first rapper chop?

Speaker 10 (01:37:09):
You know, I'm the first rapping to drop a double
city because I'm trying to figure out it was think
about that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
That wasn't really think.

Speaker 10 (01:37:19):
About it because because because because Life.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
After came out with ninety seven ninety seven Big the
first but as on Me came out with ninety six.
The doubles. It was the double Who's the first job
double cassette?

Speaker 14 (01:37:35):
Yeah, it was, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
It was the first one to do a doubles.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
A doublecast came later. Somebody had to come up some
second album, right, the second Who album come out before too.
But you can't but you can't compare to what it was.
Sixteen artists in the group. No, you know, come on,
you can't make a rules right now, there's one all

(01:38:02):
this man. But you know what I'm saying, it's one.
That's one group. It's one. Google made the first wrap
double album, Google Ban We got the first album mats
that win super millions, and that it came out. Favorite
Nigga is a genius, man.

Speaker 10 (01:38:17):
That's why I said we're all great, like we're comparing
ourselves to ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Give it up for everybody, give it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Everybody is everybody, man, Because I never forget seeing the
woo the first time man. Bunch of niggas and hoodies in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
The lobby of the Project building looking like I said,
the project.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
Like, hold on, whoa we caund they're letting us in
like no inspired, all the hood niggas man like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
We all inspired. That's why man. Yeah, that's Jeff Fresh Prince,
that's Jesse.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Jeff wasn't a hype man. The DJI the Person album,
double album.

Speaker 10 (01:39:05):
Exactly, but they the first to win the grab Grammy.
Yeah for the double album.

Speaker 26 (01:39:10):
Short.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
No, that's fat, that's that's false, that's f crazy. The
eighty eight album in eighty eight, that's make sure they're
saying double floud double, that's dominicure fact cham different. It
does seem real. You're right, Yeah, that's real. Great playing.

(01:39:34):
You look like you're having a hard time in your googles. Brother,
believe it.

Speaker 15 (01:39:37):
Let me do it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Listen to record. That's hip hop rap.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Album.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
It is long man, five verses. You not the big,
not the big? What's that thing?

Speaker 18 (01:39:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
False?

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Gaph, I got it. Master P. Master P was the
first rapper to release the double CD with his nineteen
ninety five compilation Down South Hustlers.

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 27 (01:40:06):
Know, you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
To be massive.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
He had every hord playing ghetto. Your master can't change it.
He pushed out, Yeah, pushed out, yeashed out culture for.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
Big nigga, nigga some what's the sergeant weed and liquor
master money and bitches yether the weed and liquor.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
That was ship money.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
He had.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
It was massive mass.

Speaker 14 (01:40:41):
Hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
They can't not because remember that they mister Lea said,
Press Prince. Yeah, okay, your.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Mister google.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Art the Minigan Republic. What the record is down south hustles?
I mean, I mean well, I mean that's very specifical,
you know, like yeah immediately yeah, like belly, Yeah, yeah, sure,

(01:41:21):
we've been doing that. It was a single hour means
all on me. Okay, yeah, all lots of means double
We called it just everybody knows. When we sunk up
like this, we called drunk fact drunk facts. Yeah. We
mean well, but we we have we have a good
at We mean well, we have good intentions.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
We usually google that half of the sounds that work
for FEMA, and we have good intentions.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Disaster out there with right now, he really our producer,
our respect. I ain't gonna mister Lee got question damn
all right, So is that your chick?

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
So is the subliminal so because you know it's.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Not and I know Shorty said we wrote that about her.
Some somebody said, no, no, I'm not, at least not
my verse.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
No, big, I don't know what you're talking about. Come on,
clear about the song. Somebody said, is that your Chick
was written about?

Speaker 11 (01:42:25):
Though we thought it was back then we thought it
was about like a rappers girl, like, because that's not being.

Speaker 13 (01:42:32):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
The girl.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
We ain't doing that. People lived, they the record, Yeah
it was about somebody, but we can't was that was me?
I really wanted to know that it was, because you
know it's speculations.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
But my verse, my verse when I got the song
is that your chick? Remember Jay released, is that your chick?
That was a layup record?

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
For me?

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Was like, yo, you lie right because it came out
on his album only released overseas on volume one, so
it only was on the album with overseas.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
So many I wouldn't know that it was overseas, so
come on, so listen.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
When he when he wanted to release here, he couldn't
re release it. So he gave me the beat, Yo, bleak,
I got the hook in the beat. Just write two
verses for this and I'm gonna put I'm gonna use
the verses already got on it and we're gonna shoot
the video. So I'm like, great, thank you. So when
I went to the crib and I'm listening to it,
it's that your chick number one thing come up is

(01:43:32):
come on, man, these niggas out here handcuffing, you gotta
be shipting.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Me, you know what I mean. So it was it
was just about ship like that. It's like, how could
you dig? Missy was on that. That was a good song.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
And back to his point, Nigga said he was in
the studio with Mike and never met Mike. I shot
a video with Missy and never met.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Up to this day. Didn't work. But she shot her
ship something something. She was in LA, but I was
too late at this time. See, so she was late.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
So when by the time she came, I was already
back in the club in l a chilling. So when
she shout while I was going. And then when we
did the shows, you know, you come on stage, you
stay high whatever, but we never had a four more introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
That's crazy. Wow, I drink. Yeah, that's the first. That's crazy.
Have I ever worked with somebody that I haven't met?
That's the same ship, as you know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
It was nothing when we went to uh the after
party and you never met Pharrell, Yeah, I never met
for real.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
At the very beginning of my career.

Speaker 11 (01:44:39):
I thinking, like in Puerto Rico when that Mike show
Power Summing in the beginning, but we came through like
thirty deep and scared everybody account.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Black hair somebody, Yeah, nobody wanted to be out front there.
We was thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:44:49):
They were like, yo, I was got that makes power Summing.

Speaker 11 (01:44:51):
I remember that sh it was like thirty. They were
like they came to an armedy. It's like fifty of them,
like twenty eight niggas, but it felt like sixty.

Speaker 6 (01:44:57):
But that's twenty Still a while we were was.

Speaker 11 (01:45:00):
The bullshite may like he was, yeah, we can't we
go some bullshit. When I met for all that, he
was like, away from me, please fast as fast as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Then, just so you know, I did that. First I
came to Miami. I posted the ship the Thug Down.
Yeah yo, back there yo, with three bus loads full
of niggas. Was in the game is.

Speaker 11 (01:45:18):
Watching the ship and I was a fan of of
ceing n and know when he went over, guy was
super tugging it way worth.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
We was doing it. Yeah yeah, nigga was busting. Were
looking like what do you want me to do? It
worse than they was like black who black?

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
I remember that tang Man but Woo Chang and rough
Riders niggas, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Niggas know where they got on the right they was.
They had a right to be. They got because they
got niggas thinking about it. Everywhere people say they start

(01:46:03):
people to assistant in the manager and then security.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
So what's not three? Every Brooklyn Niggas Three was twenty
seven whole? That thing that's twenty seven people.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
Was the most worst ever forward show ever Nigga. It's crazy.
I feel like n ob could be itches.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Sometimes you'd be like yo, like niggas don't know nah,
niggas they're thinking me about podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
I want to get too young to be in the tunnel.
I snuck in. I was like probably sixteen, remember, yeah,
what what what damn you niggas and niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Mad came on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
I see niggas changed. Yeah what to that song? Ye
nigga trying to play at.

Speaker 28 (01:46:50):
That one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Yeah, something that I was like, I'm in I'm a
young nigga, Like, ah, he's gnawing these niggas is nuts.
They had that ship super li it. I'm not gonna
lie murders a nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
We really, yeah, my niggas really when the nigga said
Brooklyn wanted to tell you like really.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Like certainly did after.

Speaker 15 (01:47:12):
Yeah, I hear the cont I get the question. Hold
gospel I was, we got, we got.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
We were not all We're not going out.

Speaker 24 (01:47:35):
Shoulders, Yeah, coming through the ship on the shoulders the train.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Let me tell you, like documentary about the time, was
the reference broke, you know the way it was like this,
I kind of never went on the Brooklyn night. I
think I went. I mean maybe you know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
Younger that, but I like him nigga artist before okay,
stay out of there. That's a Brooklyn night can Hey,
have you ever met Brooklyn Night Books? That Shorty performs
the book the night Book, the Nights more that's you know,
like that's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
So it's queen young.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
Let me finish this first though, Okay, leave them both.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
It's okay. Nobody got on the Queen's Nights. But I
I was too young at you.

Speaker 26 (01:48:36):
I was in the bill, but I don't get more
in the times.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
Maybe you know what, you know what it was like
this this crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
You was talking back.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Just there's so many New York artists popping that we're
not competing with no one outside of New York at
this time. We're trying to have a better show the
next New York dude. Like I remember one time me
and camera. He had horse and carriage and I had

(01:49:24):
Super Dug. And we had a bunch of B sides
that were working and that were dope, But the whole
night all they wanted to hear was.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Super Dug. And we I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
We went so on for so it was almost a
versus without being versus because we.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
We were for song in the tunnel. Yeah we were.
We weren't bound on cameras, but yeah, that's that's why
I said it. So we were going so what so.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
And I remember one night I was drinking honey so
much that somebody passed me a water that was a
bad idea.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
The water. The Hennessy ain't agree with the water. So
I earled out that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
You know, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
You keep going. You know, he's kind of like rot
you know what, even me drinking more honey.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
And realized once you on, once you're on, you gotta
keep it going, you gotta keep it going. But the
tunnel was legendary. Like I said, if you if you
ever performed in the tunnel, ever had your record played
in the tunnel?

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Need to make a documentary on it?

Speaker 6 (01:50:57):
Like in the tunnel?

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Answer that question. Every documentary has been captured from people
that was behind the scenes, on people that was like
DJs or things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
I want to, I want to. I need an artist
documentary out of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like like me and
Seeds could do like some ship like that and then
go without and you know Roy Davis hasn't. I don't
know it was that, but yeah, like time, you gotta tunnel. Yeah,

(01:51:34):
if they want to go to the Scared to go down, they.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Had and they had the unisex and they had the unisex.
They had the unisex. Let me tell you the effect.
What about the unisex bad from the UNI.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
That was not right with the bar in it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Very you know we shot where was that put your
hands where I could put you right. Yeah, I'm talking.
You can see the whole block.

Speaker 10 (01:52:11):
Coot, you see the whole block, yo, legendary t That's
what I'm saying. This is this golden era needs to
be represented. We gotta, we gotta because we gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:52:21):
Let we got because you know, the key ship you
said tonight was yo damn, y'all was all young, all young.
I'm sure you hear this a lot. I was all young.
Everybody was so young.

Speaker 7 (01:52:32):
And the thing is, as we get older, technology is changing.
The generations that come. They even fathom, brazy the way
that we were doing things back then. You can't understand it.
Documented to make it understand.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
That's why you got to talk about it like that's
the information you let me tell you about. He was
living now like we was living in now.

Speaker 12 (01:52:59):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
You can make sure you can do this. You can
do you have to be actually high in the free
great documentary don't come.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
These young others don't even do interviews no more.

Speaker 6 (01:53:21):
Some of them don't have to, Like why don't you
tell your story more?

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
I'll tell me. I'll tell them when I can, and
I'm gonna tell like he's humble man, I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:32):
You got so much hip hop history, so let me
tell you one time.

Speaker 15 (01:53:38):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Get that, get it?

Speaker 15 (01:53:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
I tried to side see man, you know in the
get Up.

Speaker 14 (01:53:56):
Remember this, Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Side met me.

Speaker 8 (01:54:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
I was trying to sign the words whole like you
know that. Yeah, holes his influence. I'm digging influence.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
What's the whole picture?

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
We got like three feelures because we I did the
remix to this song over the one to y'all feeling,
and then we went to.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
The all classic choice. Then we did a song called
doing Again with my man Jeter King. You know what
I mean? He said on the song, signing with bleaking,
I'm right with.

Speaker 11 (01:54:39):
What what what?

Speaker 13 (01:54:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
What?

Speaker 23 (01:54:40):
What?

Speaker 14 (01:54:41):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Us were just there was a lot going on and
then the rock broke up at that time. Yeah, yeah,
I'm trying to just drop something, so I posted something today.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
I said, think about all the people you would have
never met if it wasn't for music, right. So DJ
Killer Touch it was like I don't know, six in
the morning and I was just coming back on some festival.
He was like, Yo, See's and Jada Kiss, we have
booby Trap right now, come through.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Of course I'm coming through we.

Speaker 6 (01:55:14):
Popping at six o'clock in the morning, and my I'm like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Am I doing right now?

Speaker 6 (01:55:18):
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
But that was the beautiful thing about having that.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Hip hop history and coming to some place like Miami
partying at a strip club Booby Track that's open till
six o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Where's limitless?

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Mike from Booby Traps got.

Speaker 6 (01:55:39):
Booby Trap on the river. That would have never happened,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
So all of this, I'm just.

Speaker 6 (01:55:50):
Happy to be a part of it, thanks to Marry.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
But let me ask you because we ya Yo said
on Drink Champs it's a famous story that he went
to see Collin of.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
To the what.

Speaker 16 (01:56:05):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
I mean this was at the height of the t
s and fifty beef.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
So here goes ya Yo ton Yao promoting his album.

Speaker 23 (01:56:13):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:56:14):
I was like, why are they doing this?

Speaker 5 (01:56:15):
They know they got beef, So I'm in the middle
of it, so I'm going to do my job. I'm
going to interview. But ya Yo was a willing participant.
He knew what the beef was, so he was walking
into right. So he went to go shake CALO's hand.
Cal was like, now I'm good. You know, loyalty ts
for life. I'm like, oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Can respect that. It was exaggerated, you said, I said.

Speaker 5 (01:56:43):
This is going to be your problem, and I just
started yelling through the hallways. It's two bucks birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
It was, but it seemed that work. Yes, let me
tell you.

Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
There were some people that rolled up. We're gonna.

Speaker 23 (01:56:59):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
No, this is after the fact.

Speaker 21 (01:57:01):
I saw the class name was thrown out there. Yes,
that's brother, that's brother, that's our brother. Yes, yes, tell
me the other day. Yes, the soldiers lined up.

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
It was going to go down, and I saved them.
I saved everybody in the name of Tupacs.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Give it up.

Speaker 5 (01:57:18):
Okay, I wouldn't have themed that passionately because I knew
what TUPAC represented.

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
This is not it. We already been there, done that.
Let's not repeat that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Spiracy textile.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Yes, was giving up. That's real, all things being real,
that's real ship though.

Speaker 6 (01:57:49):
Yeah, but shot ye yo for for beating that story.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
That rock.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
To come. But that's why so holarizing right like.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
That's where yeah, we could get there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
But right now we're elevated.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Yeah, I'm glad we grow, because I have the upper
head like that against any of my is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Going what is petty rally a little now I'm growing
in the day and I had the upper head like that,
you're getting spanked.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
You're getting a Metsic staple to your head and show
all yours who did it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:31):
And what what we get.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
It was body that I don't like smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
Hold on, so grafted Dame dash d m U. Yet
after I'm asking about the rock Chane did he he
called right away.

Speaker 11 (01:58:53):
He was like, Uh, I was just gonna make it sure, Okay,
let me make it sure, yea, to make sure I
got this blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
I got it on and I'm happy as a motherfucker.
I'm very happy flipping.

Speaker 11 (01:59:08):
When I signed at the end when Rockefeller was breaking
up between Jay and Dames, so I didn't get the
chance to experience making the album, going on tour, doing
all the big ship with them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Or to change my change my dream.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
Now this is Remember I'm I'm watching your niggas. I
met your niggas in London.

Speaker 11 (01:59:24):
I'm still I'm in there, but I'm still like a
spectacle like I'm fancy on niggas. I never got a
chance to experience the business. The tour album, I made
like five songs niggas and it was like clip damn.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
The album Birthday. Don't over there, you ain't ship. I'll
be like, see what you're doing over there? It was
give you the.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
All together?

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
But I got Dame blessed. It's all good man.

Speaker 11 (02:00:02):
I shot all your niggas man, Bleek Jane, the whole rock.
I love your niggas death man. I'm just happy to
be there.

Speaker 13 (02:00:08):
Yeah, your money, look all right, let me Steppes comes up.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Okay, you're right, this show comes out next week.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
Dame, I have nothing but respect for dam I want
to show you I have no respect for Dave. Been
coming at me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
I just wanted to say, all right, you tell me
the FaceTime. Are you on the show. But I'm a
good chill.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
You want to smoke he wants Okay. I would say
to his face personally too, But you know that's my man.
I got nothing but love of them. I got nothing
for love on But you know I gotta respond. I
don't I don't want to respond with disrespect, but I
gotta let you know that I'm not gonna be disrespected.
And the fact that you keep taking like these little

(02:01:16):
fake shots. It's corny bro like, I have nothing to
do with that ship. But at the end of the day,
I will respond because if we're supposed to be black
and excellent. I've never got paid for not one of
these movies that I've done. I've never got paid for
one of these soundtracks that I've done. So where is
this real CEO shit that you know has been brewing?

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Like?

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
And and I respect you like I do not want
to start this off by by, you know, disrespecting the
person that I actually respect. But I gotta address you
if you're addressing me multiple times, big homie ain't the
only one you keep bringing up.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
You're bringing up anybody. And I know it's these gold
bottles yspectfully commercial. It's not Spike, not Spike commercial.

Speaker 10 (02:02:21):
Stop the party saying Spike, And I know you know
what it was the state property. I'm in one of
the state property movies with him. You got paid, No, sir, Okay,
we go back to all of this. I'm just saying,
I'm asking, like I'm not trying to start now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
You came home like now you tell you know, you
told me you gotta speak you me to what I
want to do? What you do be doing?

Speaker 4 (02:02:53):
Clint me.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
They didn't want to pay you all.

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
I ain't because because I because that was his part
of up.

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
No no no, we all participated, but was supposed to
be a part of him.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
But you know I was with the Rock, so I
got paid in different ways.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
You know, advances was boost up, checks was clear, quicker.

Speaker 13 (02:03:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:18):
Ship just happened.

Speaker 16 (02:03:19):
Though.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
They get moved around.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
Yeah, they broke me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
It's good, but yo, I dump dang like a motherfucker
for the one with the movie.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
With Kevin Hart.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
No paper sold.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Yeah, that's why they ain't no fun with me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:36):
That's what started. But want to be in it?

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
You didn't want didn't want to be in it. Like
I said, I didn't get paid from the first one,
just like I'm like it. And then it was like
tension at that time. So I'm like funk that, no,
I ain't doing this movie.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
He kept calling me. I'll be like, yeah, I'm gonna
pull up and never pull up. So then but you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
So this is what happened, right, So he Jay he
pulled the big joke out on me, Ja like yo, bleek,
what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Why ain't we doing the movie. Make go do that
go ahead through that ship real quick. Man, you only
got one line, I may go knock that ship out
real quick.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
So I'm like, all right, I go to the set.

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
Nigga Dan was like, oh, so you want to show
up because j called you? But how did he even know?
How did he know?

Speaker 4 (02:04:20):
He knew?

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
He go home and then I came. He like for
this bitch ass they.

Speaker 2 (02:04:28):
That movie. But then I thank god I did, because
you know, I kept by the way. I appreciate you, Jame,
like I really do opportunity man, just to put your
boys in the movie. See me.

Speaker 3 (02:04:42):
We was a family, so I didn't care about money.
I want to see my boys do their thing.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
You got a movie.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
I'm riding with you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:48):
That was the loyalty you have for my team, for y'all.
Not getting paid to.

Speaker 28 (02:04:57):
That was.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Not know I got paid paid for? Yeah, I keep going.
Did you get paid for? Paid for the movie? Absolutely not?
Keep going streets watching them on that. Why did you?
Why did you participate?

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
What?

Speaker 12 (02:05:16):
What?

Speaker 23 (02:05:16):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
It was just your loyalty to the situations was like
my you know what I'm say. I was seeing him.
I would see them, but.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
I would never think that we were sitting here talking
about separation between any of this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
I saw the beginning. I saw that, and you know,
I was I was.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
Cool to was probably the only Queen's person that did
at that time, you know what I'm saying. Like I mean,
if you look at it, you know what I mean, Like,
think about the streets watching.

Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
I would say, old people, Nelly was the streets just watching. Yeah,
it was like, it's right about that's right, tell them
just getting my dame to just talk then because I love.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
Yeah, I won't fin.

Speaker 1 (02:06:18):
Yeah, bleek to you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:20):
Sure, let me tell you my story about Okay, just
say this is my name.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
I know.

Speaker 11 (02:06:40):
Right when I first signed in the Rock, we did
a deal like this, he was like this, you signed
for the person Tom. Before the paper was done, he
was like, you signed president out how They was like,
that's gangster.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
So he signed to the Rock. But we do the PaperWorks.

Speaker 11 (02:06:53):
But we're still doing the paperwork and I'm still in
the street a million percent. So I'm like, I'm on
the Rock now. I don't want to get jammed up
on the police's activity or played myself and blow this
opportunity because I'm outside doing X y Z so I
come to dam and I'm like, yo, I don't want
to fuck my opportunity. I know the deal's not done,
but I'm outside still doing you know, I'm still hustling.

Speaker 2 (02:07:14):
He said, you know, come up, so what you need
some money? I was like, that's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 11 (02:07:18):
He was like, I bet he took me to this
financial advisor and they gave me ten bands, so you
can say, take this money and.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Get out the street.

Speaker 11 (02:07:26):
Me being a Jamaica queens nigga that I am, I
put that money back in the street. Street back, but
I bought some bad work and then come back play yourself.
I lost the ten played yourself, so I was like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:36):
I was like, yeah, New York state of mind.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
Then they again to submit this.

Speaker 11 (02:07:41):
I said, damn, I know you gave me the ten
to get out the street up. But me being a
Jamaica Queens nigga, I went back to the street with
it and I lost it. He come up and I said,
what we need some more money? I said, yes, I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
Trying to say, I got to be problem to say it.
He went back in me another ten, nigga, you better
not put it back in the street. Nigga. I owe
him twenty mans. I shouldn't to say them out on
the show right now. I wouldn't be.

Speaker 6 (02:08:03):
No nigger.

Speaker 4 (02:08:06):
He's coming.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
That's my point.

Speaker 6 (02:08:11):
You look.

Speaker 2 (02:08:13):
Money right now that outside the deal. The next show
that's outside of.

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
The Tell Dame is part of the rock. We all
dirty ground bottom niggas. We look out with the you
know how you got to scratch off. You gotta scratch
theles to see. He ain't scratch off from all the
numbers he said he and he didn't give a number

(02:08:47):
come back. I need that back, but I would.

Speaker 14 (02:08:49):
Give it back.

Speaker 2 (02:08:50):
I'm with you. I'm talking about his character. What I know.
You know what I'm saying, that's what I know.

Speaker 3 (02:08:56):
Damn about he going hold it down with the dang
that we see today. It breaks my heart because put
it like this, we all hustler, Every hustler in the game.
I know, you can't name one hustler that just had
it scot free. And any type of hustle would only
have to be the streets. It could be in business
or anything. You're gonna have a hiccup. The name of

(02:09:18):
the game is to bounce back, and the second time
is always more enjoyable than the first time. That's my opinion.
So to watch a hustler just do what he doing
now instead of really locking in and getting back at it,
it just hurts my heart.

Speaker 10 (02:09:38):
That's why we gotta support each other directly and directly
is whatever we it's really just comes down to us.

Speaker 1 (02:09:45):
Man, Seriously, for years, it's been like the bad guy
good guy, like rumor we're who like with Rockefeller, Like
you know, like one play the role or the bad
guy good guys. You think that that played the role
or what's happening right now?

Speaker 2 (02:10:06):
You are who you are for you guy here man right,
Jay said that it's just truth.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
Man, you was who you was for you. Guy, A
dame is who he is man like, you can't not
the nigga for who he is. He could be arrogant,
could be obnoxious, but he's a smart businessman and know
how to build something, and he helped build one of
the greatest empires in the world. So I know it
could be done again, even if it's not in music,
even if it's in something else. Just that lock in

(02:10:31):
and take your focus. I feel like his focus is
all over and not locked in on what it needs.
You know, what I'm saying, it's like you gotta adjust
the target.

Speaker 28 (02:10:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:10:40):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:10:41):
I agree, Yeah, because his genius is with how he
perceived whole who hold is today and he has an
intricate part in that.

Speaker 2 (02:10:50):
Let's not take that away from there. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:10:53):
I don't like, let's let's give let's give that to
it to each other. Let's give that to each other,
regardless of what right, wrong different.

Speaker 3 (02:11:00):
I never kicked a man when they down, so you know,
and like especially one of my pros, it's like especially
a O. G. I looked up to that gave me
the game. I believe looked I carry some of the
game they taught me him, Biggs and Jay like you
know what I mean, just to even be in the
presence at that time, they were the top grass of
their class man. There was nobody in any field that

(02:11:22):
was hustling harder than them three names.

Speaker 10 (02:11:23):
And even if Biggs gets Biggs gets under estimation for
his role in Rockefeller startup money exactly like we want
to talk about Rockefellers startup money. So Biggs, No, I'm
just saying, Biggs is we're talking about Damon hole Biggs
talking about hawfa you her whole shout out half.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
And God did when book that load? I got to
go back to the verse. But Yo, it's it's levels,
it's layers.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
Definitely, I think it was special man. So like I said,
I don't I don't enjoy it. Man one who take
laughter and this ship and like, yeah, let's let's do this,
Like you're talking about this and I ain't with that.
I want to see my g bounce back and get
back the way he deserves to be.

Speaker 5 (02:12:10):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Saying something about it, it means you accept it.

Speaker 9 (02:12:15):
It's just like, nah, you're just playing your part of
just inspects fall back. But something's gonna have to be said.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
You know that.

Speaker 9 (02:12:23):
I know what that man did, but it's not my job.
Even sometimes it's just cool just to if you know
what it is at stake quiets everybody. Everybody just feel
like their opinion. Some they just want to be in
tired to their ship. Sometimes certain things are for certain
people and them as long as you know you're good
with them.

Speaker 1 (02:12:42):
On that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Everything for the internet to be seen.

Speaker 9 (02:12:49):
Opinions some things just lets just stay within you me
and you know what it is. And like he just said,
it's nothing. We all seen that, we watched it, we
all seen it. Did you really like you really have
to like do that to break it down? Do this like, nah,
he meant that, and he meant that, and he's here
and he's dead. There's nothing to discredit that type of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
Squad. I love the square table, but I'm trying on
and on, who's your favorite rapp up all time? O, man,
you can't do that to me.

Speaker 10 (02:13:28):
You've got to give them all time because we all
got to answer this one on top five.

Speaker 2 (02:13:33):
I'm asking one one one of your top five.

Speaker 8 (02:13:37):
That's that's problem personal. Let's say buster rhymes wow, the
top number one of all times, one of the top Yeah,
definitely the style pattern and yeah he's created.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
To bust Roy busted your bro, I say your bust
mount rushmar no one of this. I said, you.

Speaker 18 (02:14:03):
Agree, there's not too many people like that and answer
so you know what I mean, Like he's one of
those creative cats that really brought something unique to the table.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
It comes from all kinds of cloths. The way this way,
you're just saying.

Speaker 3 (02:14:16):
One one, just one, not to finish spin the block.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
That because you said you just said, you just said
you're fying.

Speaker 5 (02:14:30):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
It's your turn, thoughts, your turn. Everything always gives yeah, no, no, no,
he ends it ship.

Speaker 10 (02:14:42):
All times of all times. I'm gonna go with for
me because I know it's criteria for me.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
Because so when you asked me, so, I'm gonna go with,
I'm gonna go with pos your care do you have
to get? You want to give relation, We know we
don't have to give. You don't have to give. You
can elaborate, elaborate, so so for me, right, Biggie Smalls, right,

(02:15:17):
is the best rapper. Biggie Smalls was born to be
a rapper.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
Right.

Speaker 10 (02:15:22):
I feel like Tupac was born to just be who
he was, just the soul that that that trends like
pocket is pot right. I can watch Pox Docs movies
forever and ever, just it's gonna always inspire me and
give me some give me some energy. Right, But I
feel like nobody is, nobody can, Nobody's ever rapped better
than Biggie Smalls.

Speaker 2 (02:15:41):
Biggie Smalls was born to be a rapper. Bro, this
guy is so so great. But I'm no, I'm saying no, no,
let me get let me quick, real quick, check it out.
I'm telling you, I'm telling y'all why why this? Check

(02:16:04):
it out? But they wasn't there, So check it out, right,
check it out. Check it out, check it out. It's quick.
I'm gonna tie it up.

Speaker 10 (02:16:12):
Listen how I listened to be, how I listened to Tupac.
For me, personally, I feel like Tupac was. He felt
my soul.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
He gave me like a different, a different.

Speaker 10 (02:16:22):
But when it comes to music and hip hop and
songs and sonics and beats and flows, nobody's nobody can.
Nobody can rap better than Biggie Smalls. So it just
depends on the criteria.

Speaker 3 (02:16:33):
Bro.

Speaker 10 (02:16:33):
So if I had to say one, I'm gonna say
pop because if he's.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
My personal so my decision for pop is personal.

Speaker 10 (02:16:41):
It's not based off of sonics of music and beats
and rhymes all right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
Out of control, know what it is. Of course you
gotta get both of these why.

Speaker 9 (02:16:54):
I mean, just on just as a fan of music.
I mean, I just felt like nobody was. I felt
like nobody was more complete than him. As far as
if you want to took about rapping and lyrics like cadence, flows, bars, metaphors, relieve.

Speaker 2 (02:17:11):
That like, it's just just a certain few people that
can really do that.

Speaker 9 (02:17:15):
And him and the Hope, it was like, wait, them
top ones that could actually just match your just a
sound of how you want to go you want to
go slow, you want to go fast, metaphors, you want
to go storytelling, you want to go content. He he
was just like that well rounded rapper. And that's and
that's how I always judge somebody I thought that was dope.
Just how many ways you can just go you know
what I mean? Like, and that's why Big is my fit,

(02:17:38):
not just because he's from my hood. If I wanted
to be biased too, I'm still on that type of round.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
That's who I am outside of outside of the outside
of the.

Speaker 1 (02:17:52):
Only one, only one who listened to for the rest
of your.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Life, outside and outside of Big.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:18:01):
Uh, it's quick. You can let him come back to
think about it from my lead. Think about it, man,
that's hard because when you're talking about somebody.

Speaker 15 (02:18:11):
Else want more.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
I think everyone here knew he was gonna pick Big
right exactly, so, so.

Speaker 9 (02:18:19):
Somebody that could really like, I don't know, because I'm
a little I grew up a little I grew up
a little different, So that could be that could be
rock him for me, you know it could. It's not
going towards this, you know, because that's what Big States
set for me. But I'm talking about before Big as
being just a kid and the fan who you listen
to and who you probably with.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
Grandpool boy, you know what I'm saying, Like that Bally
means something.

Speaker 9 (02:18:43):
It's not about the dopest, but somebody ever inspired me
in that type of waything?

Speaker 7 (02:18:52):
You guy?

Speaker 11 (02:18:53):
Right?

Speaker 12 (02:18:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:18:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
Records?

Speaker 9 (02:18:56):
Right, five or six records from him, like what was
like the god for me before before like the nineties.

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
The trick to this is there's no wrong answer.

Speaker 11 (02:19:15):
Let's go you, let's go grab see I'm a base
it off my influence, right, You're one to one.

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
Yeah, it's weird to say one because it's like I'm
cheating my how I developed as an artist. That's why
we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
So it's like I want to merge two niggas in
the one. But it's like, let's see it, let's hear it.

Speaker 11 (02:19:33):
He did, but he bigger fil shout out the Mexican
facts indeed, So like I started rapping because of nods,
so you hear my music and it's worthy and intricate.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
That's all the nads influence. But then when you get
to the wit, the cadence and me just talking on
the beat, that's all whole. So it's really both of
them niggas that got me sound sound right now.

Speaker 11 (02:19:52):
Otherwise, when I first started rapping like noads, I found
some of them old raps. The words is so complex,
I don't know what the fuck I was talking about.
I was like, I need a dictionary to.

Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
To to.

Speaker 11 (02:20:03):
Define what I mean in his verse because I was
trying to be so smart on that level.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
No Google back then, No Google, yeah, Google or place.

Speaker 11 (02:20:11):
Dictionary facts, but I had the dictionary right down and
write the rats, so they were too complex to even
digest or to enjoy. When I heard whole, Hope gave
me the permission as an artist to do so much
new ship and play with the inflection and imitate accents
and all of this ship holding everything first to me,
I'm like, this niggas is if you take hold away
from being whole and you just put them as an

(02:20:33):
artist to compare, like how we all on the same
level of here, you understand how amazing this nigga is
nigga's really impressive, Like he did so much at first,
and I'm allowed me to be like, oh I could
do that.

Speaker 2 (02:20:43):
He gave me the freedom to be way more creative
and be free with gave you the courage to even
try it.

Speaker 11 (02:20:47):
I got to call it the freedom. Before that, you
might be questioning, like can I do this that he
would do it? But oh I could do that, you
know what I'm saying. So it's a combination of both
of them, niggas. I gotta be sound about sound now
and then I gotta throw mnem in there too, bes
and that no person bro.

Speaker 29 (02:21:03):
Keep I ain't never follow rules ever while starting now.
But there's no answer. There's no answer today today.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
Might be no one about the time. It's hard to
do that. I mean, I'm gonna going they got us
on the.

Speaker 11 (02:21:27):
Shot, but but it's not even hard to be accurate.
It's like it's both of them niggas to keep it
on it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
I wouldn't sound like this, but I both almost make
a shot. Luckily, I gotta I got a couple of
shots who we shouldn't even ask. You man, you know
we love the Lord to change the life of everything.
You give the one if you want.

Speaker 3 (02:21:49):
Yeah, no, just you know, the Big homie is is nothing.
I watched at first before hope it was big, But
then I watched Big create what became by what Big,
what was hoved the be better, So that created the
mots that he became. I never got the chance to
see Big finish to compete, you know what I mean.

(02:22:15):
I've seen how they win the studio and sparked each
other like yo, Like hold on, I remember Big coming in,
you know, doing doing when they did Brooklyn Finance and
he heard Jay versus it was like, we're writing this together,
play Boy. You think you're doing this together?

Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
Sprinkled? Do you see what that sound like?

Speaker 1 (02:22:40):
That final wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
Supposed to be line for line.

Speaker 3 (02:22:47):
Jay did a verse together with Yes they Jay had
a verse already on the beat, and when Big came
and fourth hello, play Boy were writing this together, you
ain't know behind that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:03):
That whole verse. So he scrapped the verse. That's amazing,
this whole by himself. Yeah, that's amazing. I had a
lot of respect for each other man, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:23:14):
Who you can tell we came, man, It's just it's inevitable.
But they got history from like before they was rapping.
They remember this high school. I remember Big and Kim
went to the same school, West House, fucking a.

Speaker 2 (02:23:36):
Jay went to call the same school.

Speaker 1 (02:23:41):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:23:43):
Wasn't the Big j high school?

Speaker 3 (02:23:46):
I think I think it was a z. I thinks
big with the Western House right from high school and
they've been going at it like their whole life. Bro
like under spend that on a battle.

Speaker 2 (02:24:02):
Tip on the battles, just knowing that the.

Speaker 11 (02:24:06):
Battle in high school, Yeah, grapt was you have a
battle rap hell y'all come from that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Yeah, that's I don't know if you want a battle
murder looks No, no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't
just throw so big your stupids. Fab said he would battle.

(02:24:34):
Fab say yo, say he will take a battle. He
just got to get a conditioning. It is conditioning I did.

Speaker 11 (02:24:40):
I did loaded Locks podcast last week with Move and Love,
and I was talking about the same time. I was like,
if it came out, I saw I saw it on Okay,
I see it. But now I was saying, if I'm
a battle I got to battle a rapper, that's a rapper.
Because I looked at the way the what they turned
battle rap into to me is hip hop theater. That's
it is a sport and an art that should be
respected as if that that to me is jeans.

Speaker 2 (02:25:00):
Level wrap that nigga can't just walk into. You gotta
really train for that.

Speaker 11 (02:25:04):
If a nigga, like when I got certain bags to
step in the ring with them niggas, I'm like, I
need at least seven months here for these kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:25:09):
Niggas, thinking what does that mean when you say it's serious,
it's such performance art.

Speaker 11 (02:25:14):
It's like art hip hop art, that's like hip hop
because you know what I'm saying, Like, because you don't
got to be the most lyrical, you gotta be the
illness performer as well as libical.

Speaker 30 (02:25:26):
Yeah, yeah, you know you have to be that if
you want to be the yeah the way like the
angle you why you got if he's stepping Yeah, Like
that's a talent. That's the genus level tuning by itself.
And I'm not I'm not gonna put myself in there
like I'm that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:25:44):
Let's say a.

Speaker 1 (02:25:47):
Real quick you watch me too.

Speaker 11 (02:25:48):
But like but like I said, like a nigga, let's
say a fab or bank someone in the ring or
I battle anyone them niggas in a battle with somebody
on my level, that's fig But the battle of.

Speaker 2 (02:25:58):
Them niggas, that's not fair. Rap too good at that,
and that's too good at that.

Speaker 3 (02:26:02):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (02:26:02):
We fight you you have because because the niggas is
disrespectful and talking about.

Speaker 10 (02:26:15):
Like if you see it, you playing feeling even hold on,
hold on, I'm sorry, that's that's what.

Speaker 12 (02:26:23):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (02:26:23):
Thank you, thank you number one. We ain't doing top five.

Speaker 2 (02:26:34):
God, it's very I'm sorry now I'm not ready. You
should have been. She stopped there and it was like
hold on.

Speaker 5 (02:26:50):
Love Warren Hill right. That album was everything. But I'm
gonna have to give it to Andre Sacks.

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
For me that the head is amazing university.

Speaker 5 (02:27:01):
Not only because he was one of the first artists
he has really three thousands. Is his lyrical flow, the
way he's everything. When everybody thought when out they're.

Speaker 2 (02:27:13):
Coming out with an album he dropped up below.

Speaker 5 (02:27:17):
Curiously, but even below he was so he was the lyrical,
he was so melodic, he was so hip hop he
can still dance to it.

Speaker 6 (02:27:26):
And it was all about the women and love and elevation.
So Andre three sad one of.

Speaker 1 (02:27:30):
My time.

Speaker 2 (02:27:43):
Somewhere, I'm not marrying the street with the flu.

Speaker 1 (02:27:49):
Actually yeah, but you gotta lose it all to go
to forty second three you and play the.

Speaker 2 (02:28:01):
Flute like he still doesn't know he's rich ship, But
that's three, hey, yo, records like.

Speaker 6 (02:28:09):
It's visually it's visually lady at that can't be man,
think that bro that could get away way boy and
and and show the pack like and I said.

Speaker 2 (02:28:25):
I'm kind of taking out the three. Okay, okay, last
but not least.

Speaker 6 (02:28:30):
Okay, what is it?

Speaker 2 (02:28:32):
What is your number one art? Already know what? He said,
ice Cuban some ship. I already said it. You said
ice Cuba, Yeah, because anticipated I knew it already.

Speaker 4 (02:28:44):
You knew that.

Speaker 2 (02:28:51):
I got a question, what is your favorite era of
your favorite error? Going errors? People are confused? What what
you we need want gold? No, we need a window.
We need it's a mile because I got paid, don't

(02:29:11):
check saying your block that is way yeah, I would
say eighty nine night, I would say, right now, ninety nine.
He said, no, what what's what's your what's your original?

(02:29:34):
And the safe safe version of it is eighty five
to ninety five. That's the golden era for me. Hip hop. Okay,
what's your sorry, I've never had I'm going, I'm going
eighty nine ninety nine. Yeah, I'm eighty nine ninety nine.
It's a wild eer.

Speaker 6 (02:29:50):
God damn it, pass me go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:29:52):
What's my era?

Speaker 5 (02:29:53):
Man?

Speaker 4 (02:29:56):
N I say, I say eighty ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (02:30:01):
To go to never hip hop?

Speaker 4 (02:30:03):
Eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (02:30:04):
It could be eighty five. I don't have a could
be eighty one. It could be that said the hip
hop Hi Hien. I wasn't even selling drugs.

Speaker 11 (02:30:12):
What I'm saying my favorite era hip hop was the
d v D mixtape era that time span whenever.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
The out eighty nine ninety nine, No, that's more like
two thousands. Oh yeah, that's the Smack DVD. The mixtape
to the DVD.

Speaker 11 (02:30:26):
Earrow is my favorite time.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
That's your name. We used to be on Smack d
v D. That nigga you're gonna go for shotter my
nigga say.

Speaker 3 (02:30:47):
Nigga yo every small yeah, And he had.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
A few joints to what's your favorite era of hip hop?

Speaker 10 (02:30:54):
Like ever, so I had to give That's what made
me want to do five ninety five, eighty nine ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (02:31:01):
We give that ninety ship that said you want to
do this eighty nine to ninety nine. Can't tell you
what that's eighty ninety nine. Make sure what you met.
You mentioned some ship and I'm sure you said each
other and I oh never Hi. Yeah, I'm both. I'm
the era that came before, and then I'm my era,

(02:31:22):
not eighty five though. No I'm not eighty nine ninety nine.
I'm not eighty I'm getting years.

Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
Eighty nine eighty was just start from eighty five, fun
ninety five, Imber ninety seven?

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
What was going on to two thousand and seven. Yes,
it's just my two moments, Yes, yes, I mean my
second part of it is because I was involved.

Speaker 31 (02:31:47):
I remember that was just you know what I mean
that she was a baby. We went to the garden.

Speaker 3 (02:31:53):
I went to the garden.

Speaker 1 (02:31:54):
Yeah, having scaly conversations of the side.

Speaker 15 (02:32:00):
All.

Speaker 2 (02:32:00):
Remember when they went on toll I told him I
got clipped off that tour. I remember watching that shit
in the crowd, like.

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
The big the Bad Boys for Life tour, Bad Boys
for You clipped over the clip.

Speaker 2 (02:32:13):
What happened I clipped to I don't know what happened.

Speaker 10 (02:32:22):
Then, if it was what was ever the smoke with
what with Mace with us it just if it was,
it could have been none.

Speaker 3 (02:32:30):
If I don't you know that was some Harlem ship. B.
I was just deep in Brooklyn nigga back then.

Speaker 2 (02:32:35):
If you if you don't know if any smell, I
don't know what, cause I just know we was we was,
we was active, We was ready for all. Was he
a target? Yeah, he said something, so yeah, we hold
a record and this them.

Speaker 1 (02:32:49):
Like it was anyway, So May said something first about
asking him because I don't know sut it on the
R and B records, he was talking you hear whole saying, niggas.

Speaker 3 (02:32:58):
Talking real breasy on them R and B ight, it's
but I'm playing a million times. Check the credits.

Speaker 2 (02:33:03):
Yes, Ja, that's James stuff.

Speaker 31 (02:33:06):
Yeah, saying yeah, he was just talking on them.

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
Agree, What do you think was saying what he said?
Trying to seek because I'm asking because I'm on the
Mason right.

Speaker 3 (02:33:19):
Steve, and and it definitely hit home when he said,
I don't really fuck with Dang, but still with cop Jigger.

Speaker 2 (02:33:26):
Yes, I remember Dang. Was this is on the fire.

Speaker 3 (02:33:29):
This is not.

Speaker 2 (02:33:32):
Said that? Yeah, yeah, so this so on Mason's first album,
his debut album is the name of it is Hallow World. Yeah,
not the Hollow World, the group his name his album.
His album name was Hollow World.

Speaker 10 (02:33:44):
So he said that, Yo, don't really fun with Dan,
but still like cop niggas want to act.

Speaker 2 (02:33:49):
We can act.

Speaker 3 (02:33:49):
That was from.

Speaker 2 (02:33:52):
A shot at home. How does Hole take that person?

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
Know?

Speaker 4 (02:33:58):
He right?

Speaker 2 (02:34:00):
Know, my man? What I got to snap?

Speaker 15 (02:34:07):
Oh, my man with me.

Speaker 3 (02:34:11):
At that?

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
That's how we go to Yeah, what made May set
it all? Because I have no idea great, great questioning graph.

Speaker 27 (02:34:25):
So Mace Cam.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
They grew up with Dame Dash eleven nine on.

Speaker 10 (02:34:30):
The east side of Harlem, right, So I feel like,
so that was super young and May fall off first
something trying.

Speaker 2 (02:34:36):
Let me just give it you how I remember? Let
give it you have to remember it. So I feel like.

Speaker 10 (02:34:43):
They grew up eleven nine. This is when Bloodshair was alive.
So this children in the corn days right recipece of bloodshed.
So I feel like somewhere along the line the trajectory
changed where Cam took you know, throw it along the
more along the lines of Dame and Mason was like, Nigga,
I'm Mace because Mace turned out to be Mace, right right,

(02:35:06):
So I feel like somewhere along on they split, just
they just split thinking the same.

Speaker 2 (02:35:10):
Way and be cool around the time Dame and Mace
Dame in Mace.

Speaker 4 (02:35:16):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:35:17):
I don't think. I don't.

Speaker 10 (02:35:18):
I really genuinely don't think Dame was Mace's type of guys.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
You know what I'm saying. You know, we have a
we have our type of guys that we get along
with more than others. I just don't think Dame was
his type of guy.

Speaker 3 (02:35:30):
So that.

Speaker 2 (02:35:32):
You live in a crazy world.

Speaker 1 (02:35:36):
And Dane got more air likes they Okay, that's what
I was trying to stablish.

Speaker 2 (02:35:41):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (02:35:42):
Because Masons, like Yo, you know, they still went on
to be successful, you know what I'm saying, went out,
you know what I mean, just just going against the odds.
So I think that's where that trajectory changed, just along
Mason Cameron's line, along the line, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
Yeah, but he said I don't. I don't really fuck
with Dave.

Speaker 10 (02:36:02):
But still I got Jagers now is saying, yo, oh
we ain't.

Speaker 2 (02:36:05):
Fucking none of that.

Speaker 10 (02:36:06):
You were this and that man at the time, it
was it was all because I'm trying to get to
the Mason, the Mason Jayson, But it was a.

Speaker 2 (02:36:12):
Lot of you gotta remember to remember this is the
era of who the big dog in the city.

Speaker 3 (02:36:22):
Remember Mace was the big dog in the city at
that time because he was selling records. The whole still
was pulling up in the bigger calls better watches bigg
like like, I'm that nigga outside. So it was always
that competitiveness. And then you know the Harlem ship, y'all
niggas dagosing it up. It goes even further now. But
then when they got into the music, I guess niggas

(02:36:43):
just went lyrics at each other.

Speaker 10 (02:36:44):
And you know what I like about whole to his
humility because on every Day of Stars Born, he said, yo.

Speaker 2 (02:36:50):
His first line, right, I seen Mace do it? Seen
do it?

Speaker 10 (02:36:55):
Seen when he do it X came through caught light
of fluid every day Stars boring on you?

Speaker 2 (02:37:02):
He said, yo, his first line was yo, seen May's
do it do it? So he gave that up, and
like I said on the episode before before this, you know,
I'm like, yo, who was just you know, this is
a spartan man, this is gladiator man, And like he said,
it was New York versus New York, it was just
for that New York a real boxing. This is real,

(02:37:23):
this is real ship.

Speaker 3 (02:37:25):
And it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:37:27):
And it's my brother, Like I really love hef and
to the core. But he always reminds me like we
kind of like like the world didn't realize that it
was y'all against y'all and it was other people that
existed in this world. Man, do you think that New
York was too cocky at that time?

Speaker 2 (02:37:47):
We yorktude.

Speaker 10 (02:37:57):
That that that's what up for the record, what us
us New York is being too cocky? What bird lay
themselves I'm from Harlem?

Speaker 2 (02:38:04):
Ha what part?

Speaker 6 (02:38:05):
Like what's the street like santish them? Okay, okay, see
that's the New York.

Speaker 2 (02:38:10):
That's the New York ship like part?

Speaker 6 (02:38:12):
What what's that Eastide?

Speaker 2 (02:38:13):
Western? Yeah, we can't even act in New York.

Speaker 3 (02:38:16):
Yo. What where you're from?

Speaker 2 (02:38:17):
They're gonna say I'm from Harlem. You're not gonna say
I'm from say from New York the Queen Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (02:38:26):
Never.

Speaker 2 (02:38:28):
You never say I'm from.

Speaker 3 (02:38:31):
Right there? What am like if you.

Speaker 2 (02:38:33):
Actually from Miami? I'm from Day County. Yeah, they can't
wait the name of shood Jamaica. Queen's goddamn. No, I'm
not from New York for Jamaica. R ask me where
I'm from and I tell them Brooklyn. They be like,
where that's that.

Speaker 4 (02:38:55):
Big?

Speaker 2 (02:38:56):
But it's a brook Actually, I have never heard that
browns brown brown.

Speaker 6 (02:39:03):
Yeah, never, we don't recognize the browns.

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
Browns in Miami. Answer that question.

Speaker 6 (02:39:13):
There's a poking bean.

Speaker 15 (02:39:16):
Was the last question?

Speaker 2 (02:39:18):
Was the last question?

Speaker 1 (02:39:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:39:21):
Was it was?

Speaker 5 (02:39:21):
It was?

Speaker 2 (02:39:22):
It was I love I love drink jam.

Speaker 3 (02:39:35):
You man.

Speaker 18 (02:39:41):
But I got a question and it's banner listen to that.
I got this a video and all that for it.

Speaker 2 (02:39:47):
Yeah, trying to get a beat man. It's a part
of his camp. I can't think of the game right now.

Speaker 6 (02:39:54):
Were usually directs.

Speaker 3 (02:39:57):
I got a question for the whole goddamn Drake Champs
staff lea roster only winch is rock solid dropping.

Speaker 2 (02:40:06):
Wait we dropping.

Speaker 1 (02:40:10):
As soon as we get the foot back, We're gonna
make a super trailer. I'm gonna shure you are bleak
block got listen to me. Bleak Ship is no Joe.

Speaker 2 (02:40:25):
The premise of your podcast that Okay, can you take over?

Speaker 3 (02:40:28):
Yes, I'm remis of my My ship is just telling
funny ship like I let the journalists be the journalist.
I'm not a journalist. You already gast me up to
do this ship.

Speaker 2 (02:40:39):
Because he's a because he's a fucking real he's a
he's a officially a journalist. So now I felt my
pocket and I don't want to be a journalist. I
don't want to be I don't want to be personal.

Speaker 3 (02:40:50):
I want to be the guy that you tell the
fun start the fun side of this life. If you
want to get into your personal issues, that's on you.
But I will never be the one to bring it up.
Like I'm not the click big guys like.

Speaker 6 (02:41:02):
So when you first that's your first big check. What
you buy?

Speaker 3 (02:41:05):
What you mean?

Speaker 2 (02:41:05):
In music? Yes, okay, you want.

Speaker 6 (02:41:07):
To go to the hospital, you want to what you
want to do? Which way you want to go?

Speaker 3 (02:41:10):
Ship? In music? When I got to see it's it's
a that's a double edged question because I got to
bring up Jay Brown in this one man, Jay Brown,
the old jill.

Speaker 2 (02:41:20):
That's by with the business.

Speaker 3 (02:41:25):
I only been asked that question twice, okay, once by
him and now by you.

Speaker 6 (02:41:30):
I feel honored.

Speaker 3 (02:41:32):
Yes, Jay Brown asked me when I first met him,
you know, I was about fifteen, sixteen years old in
LA and he was like, Yo, bleak man.

Speaker 2 (02:41:39):
Jay talked highly of you, like, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:41:41):
You're about to be on You're about to be the
first artist signed the Rockefeller. What's gonna be the first
thing you buy?

Speaker 2 (02:41:46):
J Brown was down back then that okay, okay, So.

Speaker 3 (02:41:52):
Breezy was like, Yo, what's the first thing you go
and buy when you get your first check? And I
was like, Yo, think I'm buy big ass chain coming
through with the hurt you know what I'm saying. This
used to be called her hurcules, like I'm coming through.
And he was like, you're gonna buy a chain? On
God Nigga took the chain off his neck, gave it
to me and said, Hony, you got a chang. Now

(02:42:12):
what you're going?

Speaker 2 (02:42:13):
Who did that?

Speaker 8 (02:42:14):
Down?

Speaker 6 (02:42:15):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (02:42:16):
What you mean what happened? I bought a house. I
bought a house.

Speaker 15 (02:42:20):
There you go.

Speaker 14 (02:42:25):
Definitely it's a leisure man as I love that, and
you blieve.

Speaker 2 (02:42:36):
I got a quick question, So and what time, what
time in life was this? What you was like, Yo,
holy shit, I'm Memphis.

Speaker 14 (02:42:42):
Bleak is up.

Speaker 2 (02:42:43):
It's no going back, It's only this way. It's what
year and what time would you still in school?

Speaker 10 (02:42:50):
How did this work out for you when it hits you,
like yo, yo, I'm not going back to where I
would usually go home at night.

Speaker 3 (02:42:57):
When I bought my got a man nineteen ninety seven, Wow,
nineteen ninety seven, when I bought my first house was
a Jersey Jersey. Yeah, ninety seven, going into ninety eight,
I bought my first house, and I remember saying, damn,
it's crazy. I know I never have to look back
like and looking at the success we had, like I
never thought the rock would ever end, like you know

(02:43:17):
what I mean. Mostly at that time, I was the
youngest nigga in the crew, so I wasn't prepared to
see that in like let me, let me get ready,
let me talk away just in case. It was like yeah, right,
we living. I'm gonna get another advance tomorrow. Yeah, and
tomorrow never came one day.

Speaker 2 (02:43:33):
But that took it. That took a while. That took
a while to happen. That was like, yeah, that don't happen.

Speaker 3 (02:43:39):
Yeah, well that took a while. That wasn't a two
year No no, no, no, it was it was. It
was a fifteen It was a fifteen year run. Like
we fifteen to twenty years. We had a We had
a hell of a run, man, And I can honestly say, man,
like a lot of people you see around that you
might think they just came around, Like Romero. Romero was
big that he came driver when I first met him,

(02:44:02):
you know what I'm saying. I remember doing shows with
Hove and remember would drive the limo back then, and
he would drop everybody off. We would be in white planes,
being long gallons, some people in queens, but everybody was
in nice houses. This when Jay had the crib downtown
with the Barclays and that now the Duke they used
to call it. And that was the sixties Fake Street, yep,

(02:44:22):
five sixty State Street. And I was the last nigga
getting dropped off because you know, I'm the little homie.
And that limo used to pull up in massy projects.

Speaker 2 (02:44:35):
My nigga.

Speaker 3 (02:44:35):
I used to feel like a Yeah, I used to
feel like a limit because I used to be like,
how am I pulling up to the hood and a
limo my nigga, Like that's like like it used to be, like, nah,
you just came from hotels, man, member, we used to
stay at the wheel show, Beverly Hills ship like that.
You coming back to the to the projects. It's like

(02:44:58):
what you mean with the Dutch chat nigga? You oh,
I just came from.

Speaker 2 (02:45:03):
I don't know, man. You know how lich you was?
You had all the queens bitches on your body bad don't.

Speaker 3 (02:45:10):
Yeah, yeah, I used to be in queens. I used
to be queens, my nigga queens like.

Speaker 2 (02:45:15):
I be easy.

Speaker 10 (02:45:17):
Look I'm not so now it's imagine check it out.
Let's every day look look yeah, help so now imagine
all actually talking about ninety six seven eight. Now now
that you're being with mace Humber, you want to come more.
You want to get money out the front you go.
That's why I say your hold hold up, yo, bro.

(02:45:38):
So Maceon was a phenomenon. I remember, I remember Hole
going on.

Speaker 2 (02:45:43):
What was that song?

Speaker 10 (02:45:44):
That was Sunshine Face right, yeah, and that was that
was kind of a reach for whole. Yeah, my favorite
rappid change every fucking day. Let's just just put that
out there. How of those goats?

Speaker 23 (02:45:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:45:58):
All right? So look, Sunshine came out, but it was
shiny suit era, right, Yo, bro imagine now, imagine Mace
was on Brandy, Mace was on Mariah. You like to
talk about Mariah? Right, Yo? Mace was Mace was? Yo.
Are we gonna sit there and act like Mace wasn't Mace?

Speaker 3 (02:46:16):
No, he was that guy.

Speaker 2 (02:46:17):
Yeah, I'm trying to see where you're going with the story.
I'm just saying, no, good questions, good question, great question.
So we talked. I want to I want to boomerang
us back into the into real time. Mason still existing
this time. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about you know, look

(02:46:38):
you standing here. I guess we we douce that you
over there looking. This is golden ever time for me.
We all got our own golden ever respectfully, respectfully all right,
but yo, ma yo, Look, we're gonna act like Mace.

Speaker 4 (02:46:55):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:46:56):
That's why, that's why I keep going back every day
of Stars Born.

Speaker 10 (02:46:59):
Right on Jay Jay's last trip, Joe, he said, I've
seen May's doing fine.

Speaker 2 (02:47:08):
First the first the first person he names. I'm not listening.
Me and Mason.

Speaker 10 (02:47:11):
We have a good relationship, but I'm not champion anything.
I'm for hip hop. We're gonna leave here tonight. Yes,
say he was on whose side?

Speaker 2 (02:47:18):
I'm on hip hop side for everybody, for everybody individually
everything I represented. So I'm gonna give it up what he's.

Speaker 15 (02:47:28):
Doing it you know.

Speaker 2 (02:47:30):
Thing, bro, Yeah, no, one did not make it switch
that nigga. He did his name influence that.

Speaker 6 (02:47:37):
You just got to come here on your birth a
spe seation.

Speaker 18 (02:47:44):
Here and yeah, me and Norrie got a great history together.
We've done some records and vibes with each other. So
you know, I'm curious to know if any of you
guys got any new music that you're working on.

Speaker 2 (02:47:56):
Yeah, okay, okay, man, Yeah, I'm and he finally send
me my records, he said he mixed them. Hopefully I
get Yeah, shout out the guru. I did a song
for Rocker Coller change Wait bleak, gu I'm gonna tell
you know he spelled it wrong. I'm gonna tell you
how to spell it. That's not hoes and Jo stopped

(02:48:18):
that away.

Speaker 1 (02:48:26):
He stole.

Speaker 2 (02:48:27):
He stole from me. He took my man. We actually
and now I gotta borrow him back. Speaking to though cool,
what's your games that.

Speaker 11 (02:48:38):
Bleak freeway pd crack, He asked about the ship that's crazy,
but it might be clazy.

Speaker 2 (02:48:45):
Just just who's working on music? You know what I mean?

Speaker 18 (02:48:47):
Are you guys doing anything musically aside from everything else?

Speaker 2 (02:48:51):
Okay?

Speaker 18 (02:48:51):
See dope, Oh fresh man, Yeah, I can't wait to peep.
Oh yeah yeah, come on, holler at me, man, let
me know what's up.

Speaker 5 (02:49:03):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:49:03):
We'd love to contribute. Man, Absolutely, I'm out here.

Speaker 13 (02:49:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:49:06):
No, I'm out here.

Speaker 4 (02:49:07):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (02:49:07):
You already know a lot too. Yeah, thank you, fam.

Speaker 11 (02:49:15):
Me mean something important I forgot to mention last of all, said,
I got a program that I put into these schools
in New York City, music therapy. I'm coming to the
schools with the laptop, the microphone, is speakers and teaching.

Speaker 2 (02:49:25):
Kids how to make music. Had an amazing song structure.

Speaker 11 (02:49:28):
Financial literacy, yeah really, but the course is really based
on social emotional learning by teach somebody expressed themselves become
better communicated.

Speaker 2 (02:49:35):
Right.

Speaker 11 (02:49:35):
That's from the hood black experience. We ain't learned no love,
We didn't learn vulnerability to be learned.

Speaker 2 (02:49:40):
Quite strang, I hear you, bro.

Speaker 11 (02:49:41):
Absolutely really coming to these schools and help these kids
express themselves on.

Speaker 2 (02:49:45):
Some real ship and that's incredible, man, I would love
you with it. I would love that.

Speaker 18 (02:49:49):
So yeah, I love absolutely giving back to the kids
and giving them a platform.

Speaker 6 (02:49:54):
You should bring that here to Miami as well.

Speaker 2 (02:49:57):
I would love to. Let's in like ten schools in
New York. One of the schools for that.

Speaker 11 (02:50:01):
We can do that, Okay, that'd be amazing. One of
the schools I mean is is in the prison, so
I'll be really in there if I want to.

Speaker 6 (02:50:06):
Go to all my brothers.

Speaker 2 (02:50:07):
No, you don't got to go there. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, no, I don't know about what I
want to bring Sugar.

Speaker 11 (02:50:13):
I'll pick what school to bring you to. I'm just
saying one of the schools I mean is in the prison.
So I'm here for the kids with some real ship.
I get on my phone and they call me whenever.

Speaker 2 (02:50:20):
All that I want to be a part. So No,
I would love that. I would love they would like
us to support each other.

Speaker 27 (02:50:25):
I got to say one thing, mhm, when I got
my ship together, what your hair.

Speaker 2 (02:50:37):
Or what show? What I should have? Never ready? You
want to have, Kate Fox feel much to make your friends.
It's wa even.

Speaker 1 (02:50:54):
Jogging ship. Get back my ship.

Speaker 2 (02:50:56):
I'm getting back on it. I fell off it.

Speaker 1 (02:50:59):
We because maybe months, but my people that when I
get myself together is right here and he just finished
fucking marathon in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:51:12):
Wow, that's doing this is why when I when I'm
on my.

Speaker 4 (02:51:17):
You did that.

Speaker 1 (02:51:22):
Broup you ever faces because yes, yes, yes, right.

Speaker 2 (02:51:33):
Man, keep it up man and always had the way
you're doing it for the bill. I'm on that same
way with you.

Speaker 1 (02:51:37):
Give scoop the bill about.

Speaker 20 (02:51:39):
Oh damn, damn, you ain't gonna take it.

Speaker 15 (02:51:44):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:51:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:51:47):
Family. I appreciate you, man, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (02:51:54):
And I got to degree y.

Speaker 2 (02:52:00):
Man over a couple of months. You know, like a
drink champanel. Are gonna be?

Speaker 10 (02:52:11):
Are we gonna be annual fucking family day?

Speaker 2 (02:52:16):
Yo. I know I'm not signing no goddamn paperwork next time.

Speaker 3 (02:52:19):
I'm damn, I'm not at.

Speaker 1 (02:52:23):
We were family.

Speaker 2 (02:52:25):
Yeah, I'm not a gut paperwork release falls.

Speaker 6 (02:52:30):
I'm making a candle.

Speaker 2 (02:52:40):
I'm taking it. That's firing artists out there, no right.
So look, it's my artists, inspired writing, people, inspired writers,
people's everybody because it's all one thing. If blee can
make it, if we could be here watching each other
on drink chance, if you can make it if a
little seas can make it, the graph like we're making it.

(02:53:02):
We are, we're making it, and we're doing right.

Speaker 5 (02:53:06):
Just for the just for the permise of the culture.
I'm a media coach as well. Big up to my
mentor Deanna Williams. She is one of the co founders
of Black Music Months, which preserves black music in June.
She's the wife of Kenny Gamble, who produced you know who.
Kenny Gamble is like, Hello, So what I'm saying to
you is that we have to be the preservers of
hip hop and gatekeepers. I don't care, but teaching these

(02:53:28):
artists how to express themselves, how to speak, how to
form relate a sentence. This is what I do for
a living as well. So if any of you guys
need anybody to do that or any artists that you know, Yes,
and that's a part of artist developments.

Speaker 15 (02:53:47):
No, but I hear.

Speaker 1 (02:53:50):
Yement music.

Speaker 2 (02:53:54):
And we elevate and motivating the crazy. Artist development was needed.
It was needed because that's some of.

Speaker 5 (02:54:11):
These artists are drowning right now because they don't know.
But you said a lot of these artists like they're
going through mental issues. But in artist development, there was
a department and music labels that had artist development, that
cared about these artists. You taught them how to dress,
how to where to move, how to move. You don't
show somebody your location and show up and get popped off.

Speaker 2 (02:54:29):
That's not g cole. You got to go like chill.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just got I
don't want to tell you for a second.

Speaker 1 (02:54:45):
That way.

Speaker 2 (02:54:46):
I love the way drink champs big them up.

Speaker 1 (02:55:00):
You know this motherfucker ran marathon.

Speaker 2 (02:55:05):
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (02:55:05):
And then it came outside that his name is what
is it? No sleeping in club, trophy room? What no
sleeping in the trophy room?

Speaker 2 (02:55:16):
No sleeping in the trophy room? Talk about it, brother,
go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 32 (02:55:29):
No, Yeah, my name is low so represent the no
sleeping running club. Sleeping in the trophy room, and no
sleeping is all about not sleeping on your potential, not
sleeping on what's possible, not sleeping on community. And it's
a mindset. So yeah, my run club is here in Miami.
I'm from New York. I got a show. It's called
No Sleeping in the Trophy Room. It's active conversation man.

(02:55:52):
But and yeah, we just finish running the Chicago Marathon.

Speaker 2 (02:55:55):
It's amazing and uh yeah, yeah yeah, And that's that.

Speaker 32 (02:56:01):
That's just a testament to what's possible. You know, if
you don't sleep on what's possible.

Speaker 2 (02:56:05):
So respect, thank you in my mind to you. Respect,
not the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:56:16):
Just yo.

Speaker 2 (02:56:21):
Know I'm and with this bro, respect because we've been passing.

Speaker 1 (02:56:32):
Let's let's go.

Speaker 15 (02:56:36):
Shut it out.

Speaker 2 (02:56:37):
Listen, I'm gonna end it like this man. The end
of result is Yo. We gotta support itself. This is
my We got to support because this is everybody's human
We gotta come on out here.

Speaker 10 (02:56:50):
It's just humanity, broy, we gotta got you know what
you know, I'm stopping right there right and and and
the notorious b I G movie.

Speaker 6 (02:56:58):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:56:58):
You can't change the world unless we change ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:57:01):
That's my god. Damn it all right, this is called
drink Chance panel slash family episode.

Speaker 2 (02:57:14):
We think we're sorry. Ladies come first. Ladies come first.

Speaker 6 (02:57:20):
Who's crazy on the family episode?

Speaker 2 (02:57:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:57:24):
You gotta copect that because you're the lady. Well, our sister,
we're just the family.

Speaker 2 (02:57:30):
Family.

Speaker 1 (02:57:31):
And and by the way, whenever we have a woman,
we need you to feel in because we need more women, yes, yes,
and we need we need.

Speaker 2 (02:57:41):
You to help us. Yeah, okay, we want to officially
send up.

Speaker 1 (02:57:50):
I don't want to say olive brass because the olive
brass like means like we like have Beefer's for no. No, yes, yes,
But we were officially initially that we need more females,
and then when females come, we need a person like
you to help them feel comfortable, because we were talking
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:58:12):
But but if we have a female like you to.

Speaker 1 (02:58:16):
Help us out, we would We're fully endorsing that, correct.

Speaker 2 (02:58:21):
Thank you, and then Bill kill Man, thank you.

Speaker 15 (02:58:33):
You have a shot?

Speaker 1 (02:58:35):
Do you want to do a shot in the.

Speaker 2 (02:58:38):
Show over here on Tequita?

Speaker 1 (02:58:40):
Okay, no, we could.

Speaker 2 (02:58:48):
Said that's not.

Speaker 3 (02:58:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 28 (02:59:06):
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