Episode 49 w/ Gillie Da Kid & Shaggy

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(01:09):
And right now we've got a guy who's been in
this game and played it honorable the whole time. Self
proclaimed King of Philly. I've been doing it just the
major figure day been the boss, came in the game,
out here doing it's still out here smiling, looking good,
jury shining. You know what I mean? Necklace is heavy.

(01:33):
Seeing this Graham the other day, he was yesterday or today,
he was an open locker and he scared a dog away.
I loved. Right now we talk about my homeboy, Gilly,
the kid in the building, Philly. What's up, Gilly? I
gotta get straight to it, Gilly. You know Chicago looks
like the dangerous city, but Philadelphia right now, it looks

(01:57):
like the most out of control. Uh yeah, yeah, we
definitely out of a lot of history, a lot of history.
But you know, I want to start that you know,
this this off by saying because you know Nory said,
you know, self proclaimed king of Philly. No, I'm the
People's chair. I know that people. Yeah, I wanted you

(02:20):
to like people know that people called me the King
of Phillis you feel what I'm saying? I mean, and
it's you could go to the internet. That is that
where like um when because I think you had a
King of Philly project correct, King of Philly one two
and three. Okay, man, is that where like your dispute

(02:40):
differences arrived with Beans or me and Bean has never
had no differences over that. I mean, Beans is the
Broad Street bully. You know that's a little one that
never wanted to be that. You know, I mean at
the end of the day, when you look at all
the young when you look at all the young kids
that's coming up from Philip for you and name them,

(03:04):
do you say who helped you? They're gonna say Gilly
because you were like technically like the first one on
with major figures, absolutely, and major figures that was at
live is in there rolling yo, yo, Listen, Philly got
matched Tilling absolutely as the beginning of round bars absolutely,

(03:27):
will Smith lamp slide. They had some you know, they
was funny. Ever you know what I mean, Well had
a couple of hip records. So take us to the
on the beginning the major figure days you guys came
out it was six or y'all correct, it was seven seven? Okay,

(03:48):
you guys come and how how did how did y'all
get introduced to the game? What label was that? Again?
I signed with schwave House Dutch in Speed and Sound
with a team. Um Lava was out in Callie with
Dre and uh I had the group deal over at
the Warner Brothers labels. Make some noise. That's a lot

(04:11):
of checks. You gotta get to that, Chicken. Absolutely wasn't
the time of no no, no Internet, so you had
to get it from the muscle. They heard about you
from the streets. You know what I'm saying. Now, with
that being said, you adjusted to the Internet very well. Absolutely,

(04:32):
Like I got real niggas that I fun with, and
they don't funk with social media, but they follow you. Yeah,
they with you absolutely, and um they everybody always they
always send me videos of you. How did you? How
was it? I wasn't the transition to know that because
us being street dudes, were kind of taught to stay
a right from the camera. So but now we got

(04:53):
to use it to our advantage. And you were smart
when you know what I'm saying, absolutely so yeah, I
mean you know, honestly, you know, I always was known for,
you know, talking talking heavy on the DVDs, even back
in the day. You know what I'm saying, My brother saying,
I gotta totally disrespect for I totally. I'm totally told
any of your conversation, I forgot to do hospitable, got

(05:16):
to be right now. I gotta show you how to
do it. This is how we do it. This is
called p sen That's how they do it. It's called base.
So they go it in France. You know what I say. Go,
you gotta have the dumb. Gotta make sure the dumb
is there. So it's the problem ya gotta yeah, you
know what I mean. Yeah, I gotta mean so, um

(05:40):
we we we she hit the major This is the
internet thing. Yeah, so you know it was no Internet
like that, you know what I'm saying. So I was
always known for talking heavy on the DVDs, you know
what I mean. And then, uh, one day I get
a call from fending cocaine. Um uh dirty money friend. Yeah,
a little can manager right now. Yeah, and uh He's like, yo, man,

(06:03):
you gotta start talking crazy man. You know, you're one
of the greatest ship talkers ever walked the face of
the earth. Man. This music right here I'm listening to
It's incredible. Man. But you're not being gilly something that
you're talking about, you know what I mean. So he said,
you know, you gotta start talking your ship. But you know,
so I said, all right, I'm gonna take his advice.

(06:24):
You know what i mean, Get get them drink, come on,
let's go back. But you know, as a young and
I used to do it in a different way. So
I said, you know, I'm a little older now I
can't do it in that way. So you know what
I mean, what I'm gonna do. Okay, that's what I'm
gonna do. I'm gonna give him some game. Because I'm
a nigger that has been shot. I've been locked up,
you know what I'm saying. I've been to Thailand, I've

(06:45):
been to London due by a rris you feel. So
you know, I've seen every spectrum, you know what I mean.
I've been to college, you feel what I'm saying. So
you know, I've seen pretty much everything you could see
out here, you know what I mean. And so I
just figured, you know, let me give him some game.

(07:06):
You know, I can go to my my, my d
M right now and I could show you it's hundreds
on top of hundreds on top of hundreds of people
that just asking questions, Well, Gilly, my girl, was this
what you think I mean? I can't get back to
you know, I get back to a few of them

(07:27):
when I can. I got a life too, you know
what I'm saying. But question, what was your first reaction
when you heard Um, Meek and Beans on the record
together for that night? It seemed like the city was
united for a night. I mean, I felt good about it,
you know what I mean. I didn't understand really with

(07:48):
where where Beans came in with the you know, with
the game thing, but you know I was I was
like cool, But you know what I'm saying, But did
it did the city feel like I did it? Did
it like feel like niggas is trying to get it
together a little bit? But like from the outside looking
at it's like, wow, Philly. It probably it probably felt
like that a little bit more from the outside looking in.

(08:11):
But in Philly. See what In Philly, everybody pretty much
funk with each other. And you feel what I'm saying.
I funk with a RD, I funk with Oschino, I
funk with Meek, I funk with you know what I'm
saying everybody. It's just a couple of individuals that's having problems,
But for the most part, everybody funck with each other.
You know what I'm saying that even the young niggas

(08:32):
that I got records with PNB Rock, I got records
with Core, I got records with Lights. You feel what
I'm saying. That's right here, you know what I mean.
I got records with everybody, you know what I mean.
And they all got records together. You feel what I'm saying.
So for the most part, everybody in Philly funk with
each other. From the outside looking in, it just looked
like you thought that that was like a dope moment. Yeah, absolutely,

(08:54):
I thought. I definitely thought it was dope. You know
what I'm saying. I didn't want to outre crazy. I
see your Instagram that somebody gotta die just say that school,
you know what I mean. So when you started calling
you know people, rats and all right, it's like whoa,

(09:21):
It's like, hold on this ship going somewhere else. You
feel what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know what
their situation is, but I just know what I'm hearing
and I know what's going on, and I'm like, man,
but but did to your to your knowledge then Meek
and and Beans they had like problems or no. I

(09:41):
never knew Meeking beings to have any problems, right, So
but then they got on the record together and then
it went left, how did it? How did the city fail?
After that? I mean, the city just felt like, you know,
it was a bunch of you know, we really should
have went that way, you know what I'm didn't even
divide the city or something like that. It really didn't

(10:02):
divide the city or none of that. You know, It's
just people just felt like it shouldn't know what way
it went, you know what I'm saying. And then you know,
some people like you know, you stand what you do.
So it was two sides of it, you know what
I'm saying. But everybody's from the outside looking in. Nobody
really know what would actually happen, you see what I'm saying.
So for me, I just mind my business because when

(10:24):
the situation went down with with Meek and Game, you know,
I talked the game, you know what I'm saying, and
I said, you know, Game, my funk with you. Whack,
what's up, nigga? You know already know how he is. Whack.
You already know you feel what I'm saying. But you
know me, I mind my business only time. My beef
is one. It's about my niggas and and direct niggas

(10:46):
that hang with me every day. That's gonna risk day
life for me. Other than that, I ain't ship so
as the people like you said, the people name you
the king absolutely, even though I do respect minding my business.
But do you feel just a little responsibility like you
you could maybe help the situation or you feel like,
I mean, is too deep? You know, at the end

(11:06):
of the day, if if it's two individuals that's arguing,
you know what I mean, I'm known for stepping in
in my city. That's what I'm knowing for, Like, you
know what, let's get together, what's up? What's going because
a lot of times niggas don't got beef should be
made up and they they get in front of each
other and it's like, no, don't I really funk with you?
Funk with you too? Like what the funk was going on?

(11:31):
Then if y'all funk with each other exactly, niggas, that's
goofy man exactly, Like you know what, you know, Fat
Joe was my friend, Like you know what I'm saying,
it's my real real you know. Just let's I always
say that right to get out of this for something.
So so like when he asked, he was like, yo,

(11:52):
you know, um he was trying to get in contact
with Jack and I had just got in contact with him.
So I felt like my responsibility. I felt responsible. I
felt like, you know what, Jay, trust me enough to
get on the phone with Joe. Joe trust me enough
for me to lead that way, and I did it.
You know what I'm saying because I felt obligated. You don't.
You don't feel like a little bit obligated enough if

(12:13):
you're the king of feeling enough. You know, I don't
feel obligated because somebody got hands put on? Oh yeah,
you want the hand put on. I can't step in
and say, oh man, how Niger ship? And no I can't.
I mind my business. Wants to get to that point.
You feel what I'm saying because as men, you always
gotta give two grown men a chance in time and

(12:35):
space to earn their own situation. Now, but then if
it dragged on and okay, hold on, we know what's up.
What's this really about? Is this ship about something? Is
y'all ready to shoot it out? Bang bang? If y'all not,
then what we're really talking about this ship. Ain't about
no money, alright, come on, anything good. But at the
end of the day, when somebody went hands get put on, somebody,

(12:58):
somebody gets shot, some ship like that happened, I'm out
of my business everything. You know. I understand where you're
coming from. Man. I just want, you know, just for
the people in Philadelphia to know, like you know, I
just want you all to get it, to have it together,
you know, because you guys, you guys got a lot
of talent. We're all black at the end of the day,

(13:18):
and I hope you can work it out whichever way.
I don't know. I don't know what it needs to
be fixed. But um, I mean I don't really think
nothing needs to be fixed, you know what I mean.
Shout out the meek man, Shout out the seagle man,
shout out the beans man. Powerful more with the city
be if everybody was working with each other, I mean,
it would be absolutely But you know, for whatever reason

(13:40):
see the Philly Toll, for whatever reason, everybody ain't suing
with each other. But with everybody, everybody, I want to
invest in one night, just one night, because I know
there's something gonna happen out there that you don't understand.
You gotta understand it. One time, State Property and us

(14:00):
was like really trying to you know what I'm saying
at each other, at each other, for each other, like
series at each other. You feel what I'm saying. And
now we're all good? Right? You feel what I'm saying.
I used to be. She never gave me no play,
Give me no play. Big you out the anchor. I'm sorry.
I had a moment there. I'm sorry, but you're good

(14:23):
now you're here with beans? Yeah? Absolutely? How about Pete Crack? Yeah, okay,
that was with Crack in the studio too. You know
what I mean. I brand for y'all, my brothers because
you know why. Um, it's just I used to what
y'all going with, what the city is going through. I

(14:44):
went through and I realized that if I smack you,
all it's gonna do is put something red on you.
It's gonna that's it. But if I put my ship
together and I punched you, I can knock you the absolutely.
So what I'm trying to say is we always better
when it's a gallon, We're always better. You understand together,

(15:08):
you know what I mean. But a lot of people
don't know that a lot of people want to quick smack,
right and the smack is don't have attention right now,
let's knock any out. Absolutely, But in order to we
want to be together, it's got to be closed. There's
something knock you out. Absolutely, just like Super Strong, I
just not want of them, you know what I'm saying.

(15:28):
But again, so you know I got I gotta give
all the left. So now major figures. Now, was it
always your plan to be a solo artist? I mean yeah,
absolutely absolutely. It was all our plans to do like
you know, as it was Speed, it was Dutching Spade.
You feel what I'm saying. I had my solo ship.
You know, Beyonco was a solo artist, but it was

(15:51):
a solo artist. And Lava was a solo artist, but
he was all a group. You feel what I'm saying. Okay,
now let's get to the cash money days. Baby, Oh yeah, baby,
was some good things, some good days, some good things.
Many sign on the cash money I believe. So how
did that happen? Um? At the time I was signed

(16:12):
with Draper Tony Draper and uh he was going through
whatever he was going through with uh, you know, Universal
and Uh, I wasn't able to put an album out.
So it was a concert in U Philadelphia. We cash
Money and on the show, I was coming out right

(16:34):
before cash Man, so I've seen Stunning backstage, and you know,
he was like, yo, what's up? You know, you know
I funk with you. You know what I mean, if
you get out that situation, you and I gotta ask
for you. You know what I mean. You're talking about
the cash Money people? My cool? All right? So you
know me and Drape always been cool. You know, we
we Me and Drape got a different kind of relationship,

(16:55):
you know what I mean. Drape is a real life
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I just called
Drape up, like you, Drake. You know, I got opportunity.
I was houling that, you know, stunn up Blase. So
Drape said, okay, he was just gonna release me. But
Drape gave me some real nice checking up front, the

(17:16):
biggest contract he ever gave anybody. You got a couple
of bits. So I knew I had the leverage because
I knew just in the way Stunner was looking he
wanted me to get on that team. So you know,
I worked out something with Drake got shot his something,
I got shot me something nice. Then we made it happen.
And now, at first it was always looked like it

(17:39):
was having fun around them at first me. Yeah, I
mean it was money. Yes, it was fun. We had
some fun days. You know. I developed a lot of
good relationships around cash money. Now, um, so where did
they go south? You got to oh you big thing,
I got, I got you, I got you. You're not giving.

(18:02):
By the way, let me just explain. Pissing is when
you put when you put champagne, ice and champagne and
France and France, it's the cause to make a pool.
But I like the way they poured a bottle. So
I took their work, is saying, and I made it
my ship. So in the case, you know what I'm saying,
I think that's something. So because because at that point

(18:24):
it was it was he was beefing with calsh money. Yeah,
I mean, I really wasn't beefing, you know, because it's
cool now many take us to those days back Now
you know, Wayne had put out the problem soft you
know what I mean, And he said, Gilly man, I
don't think you really want to funk with me. The

(18:45):
guns but I kept saying, dog, he's saying really like
he's not you know, you know my niggas wasn't trying
to hear that. Even my six years sounds that the
time was like he said, Gilly, so you know, just
the competitive me. I said, Okay, I called them, you

(19:06):
know what I mean, I did the honorable thing, left
a message and no callback, so I dropped it, disrecord,
you know what I mean, Like, okay, you're not you
still like on in cash money when you did that? Yeah,
take these ship. That ship. It was the competitive and

(19:34):
there was allegations because because you know the old Drake
ghost riding things, those allegation that he was writing. A
couple of people shout over that was that true all?
And some ship happened. So I'll tell you I'll take that,
you know, some shopping off because you know, I like

(19:55):
the one thing I like to be as honorable, you
know what I'm saying. And I had a party in
King of Diamonds, you know what I mean, out here
in Miami and stunt Of walked in, so you know,
I really I know you, I know him, I know
everybody that's around just two years ago, so you know

(20:20):
I've seen him. I had to approach him. I mean,
what's up? Like you know, he looked me at my eyes.
HESI ain't got no problem with you. Well I see
you doing your thing. I salute you. You know what
I mean. Alright, cool, then it's all love. So you
know you look ea telling eyes as men and we
say it's all up. Then it's all up. I leave
it there. You feel what I'm saying. I ain't gonna

(20:42):
never you know, short changeing, you know, backbite and none
of the I'm gonna leave all that in the past
because you look me in the eyes as a man,
you feel me. I felt okay, I see your soul, nigga, Okay,
it ain't nothing. All right cool as a person I
was dead and you see you was there at the
heyday he was around you. Seem like you said you
know them. Would you ever the thought that they'd be

(21:06):
here in this position? Yes, you mean, I mean you
gotta look like what Juvie went through situation, you know
what I'm saying, then many fresh situation. It was like
Wayne is the person who we birth them, like after
they didn't know the Juviry one and all that, and

(21:27):
like for Wayne to go through it. You thought Wayne
would went through it. But see one, I never had
money discrepancies with Babe. Never, because I'm up front, I have.
I had money descrepancies. One time. We're getting we're getting,
we're getting the checks. So you know, he called me
in the back of the tool bus. He said, Jack,
get my bag, right, pull out Jack Jacks a little darwskin.

(21:50):
Jack was yeah, a little, yeah, a little, you know,
he said, get my bag, you know, pull out the checkbook. Nice.
M h. I like that was small. I get back
to Philly. Huh good, I go to cash that motherfucking what.

(22:14):
I wasn't bad. Don't tell me about you get your
bouts checking. Don't But I'm talking Listen, I'm not talking listen,
I'm not talking bad and none of the I'm just
tell I'm just speaking fast, true, not talking and true.
Goddam you feel what I'm saying. I'm because every artist
on this is a normam. Oh my god, I taking

(22:41):
on that more fix that moment. No, really gotta listen,
it's there. It's embarrassing though, Like, no, it's listen. You
wouldn't know what's even more bass? Right, I didn't got
checks on top of checks right. So it's even more
embarrassing is that I'm at the bank and go to

(23:01):
the bank. I see what you mean. It's this, ain't
no money in that account? Right, I'll tell him. I
was like, Pinky, want some real ship. You never seen
Fridays bank you When he said, which I know, I'm

(23:23):
in the fucking bank, Like what that's his cash money? Right?
You mean no money? And that okay again talking about times.

(23:43):
So uh when you know when she comes back, she's
you know, so I don't have to call the police
to get you up out of here. But it ain't
got their buddy, and that's a count. So you know
I live out the bank. You know, I called on
stunted and said you bro. Then I go to the
motherfucking bank. Bitch in the bank talking about ain't no

(24:07):
money in that account. I'm still offended. Say what we'll
call your line the wall. Your line is who wrote
the cash money checks? So then I look out, my ship,
said brand William. So ship, I don't know, won't take

(24:27):
this no more ship to say cash your money? All right?
So yeah, I went through that before one time. This
this is deepfable. I'm just speaking the truth, man, you know,
what I'm probably it's like a lot of record labels
that artists that don't wan through that ship. You never
I've never got a bounced check for a record labor nigger. Nah,

(24:49):
I'm gonna keep it a high. He said it wasn't
taxtically the recordlator. It wasn't get it. I get, I
get stunted the benefit of this down. He might have
had five six counts, you know what I mean, you
might have gave me a one, But just seeing them
beefing's like, that's not that's not gonna gave me the
bad one by mistake. Man, I ain't gonna put that

(25:09):
that but only once. But you heard, no ship. I
was only gonna take once. I don't do the means
and I don't do that. But I was only gonna
take one of them jointing from that one. I gotta say,
you know what I mean, you task me one of
them joint on is this man, you're kidding me. Shaggy

(25:30):
out there? What we're doing with Shaggie out there? Come in,
let's get this awkward more. He still got Brad. But
that's like that's like the third venge that pulled up. Yeah,
he's rich. Another one I'm saying, shogg y'all, you're doing it.

(25:54):
Get that that recommend playing in my head all day?
That and what's the boss? Let me tell you something though, right,
I'm at you because you know I knew this nigga
for a long time. Snickers there, I met you. You rhyme,
you killed something down sixteenth just for hand something, nigga.
But it's don't listen, Gilly been nice with the boss forever. Well,

(26:17):
I'm on the street. I think, and I think what
what had just came out? And they start they started
Gilly just he just teared this nigger up in a cipher.
You destroyed this How got balls? Yeah? I mean you
got ball? How you like me in this new generation?
Because you got balls? Your boss is flying over nigga's heads.

(26:38):
I mean I just nas snipping lean, yeah, Papa saying
they have been lean. They are way too stupid with
understand what the fun you like? I mean, I think
you gotta dumb it down a little bit. You gotta
dumb it down, absolutely absolutely. But let me finish telling
you about this guy right here. He was a savage
before savage was the word. Let's get to him, my family.

(27:00):
He probably don't even remember this. Right. One night, we're
in the club, right right, it's me, my homie, Titter,
couple other people. You remember Titer till that, I think,
so I keep going, okay, all right, he said, you know,
my guy twenty years I think club popping. You know,

(27:24):
Laurie come in, were chopping it up, all right, So
for everybody leaving out music hall, we're standing there chopping
it myself. Nigg was something, man, you already know. They're
cleaning up the club, trying to go to fuck home, right,
I think I remember this. Yes, the one of the

(27:46):
workers start sweeping by my man feet. This nigger lost
his mind. I didn't at the time. I didn't know that.
I I didn't understand what it mean by your feet. Right.
He's said, what the fun is she do? I'm very superstitious.

(28:07):
You can't, we can't. He grabbed them and say, I
knock you the funk out here? You want me to
not listen to? The worker was scared the fucking I'm
looking like I ain't that see, I didn't know the

(28:29):
superstitious ship at the time. When I clicked my tone,
my nails and my toe nails, I make if I
go get a manicure. I make sure I leave with
my ship because they cook your nails. Yeah, like when
you know you get you get, you get your ship
done yours. I'll make sure I take my right. That's

(28:50):
exactly what I think they're gonna do that. I don't
cut balls. If you're walking down the street, cut already
know what you up like I seem to dude, I'm
gonna tell you why I'm superstitious. My man, Roche, I'm
so sorry I was telling this. Sorry Roche, but this
is Halloween. We you know, we're kids. So we walked
down the street. The nigga cut the poles. So anybody like,

(29:12):
why you cut the poll He's like, man, funk that.
I don't believe me nothing, that stupid ship. I'm a child.
Were rushed. We rushed the supermarket. You know it's Halloween.
We're taking all the ship. Chinese nigga turned around. He
swung one kick. The only kick he got off. Rock
went through the window. This nigga dick got cut off.

(29:32):
My god, my nigga. From that day forward, I believe
in superstessions. You know what I'm saying. My bad, my brother,
but you know this is true. This is it was.
I was terrified as a kid. I think I'm like nine,
So since then everything this superstesion and then yeah, they
still My grandmother used to tell me when you cut
your nails, you make sure don't nobody don't don't take them.

(29:56):
So I still do that. You so you walked out
that dreet with no, that's grandmother something, and they sold
that ship in you. That's why being Spanish is ill.

(30:16):
Like I always always loved that I could go be
a nigga one day and go be a speck the
next day, and the two coaches would collide and they
would funk with me, and I had to learn how
to maintain both. I had to learn how to be
like you know what, I could be Spanish. You know
what I'm saying, Like, drop me off in the l
A and East l A, and I'm gonna relate to
one of these Mexican niggers, you know what I'm saying

(30:37):
at the same great you dropped me off and motherfucking
North Philly, somebody's gonna relate to It got weird, but
I'm very superstitious. So that's that's why why you thought
as crazy as fun. But I probably it is still
a little crazy, but off of that month. But your Gilly, man,
I'm very proud of you, my brother. You know why
I'm proud of you. It's it's something. It's something that

(31:00):
um Puff said to me one day, said to me
when when we was were about to announce something that
we got with him. By the time this comes out,
um but it's something he said to me said, every
time I see you, you'll be smiling. Like smiling is important. Absolutely,
Yet his hate when you smile and you're always smiling.

(31:24):
You always tell Sho, come in, Yeah, what is he doing?
Don't come here? But you're always smiling? Why why? Why?
Why are you not a hater? Gilly? I refused to
ship just want to hate. They just you know, you know,
it's genetics. You know a Nigga daddy was a hater

(31:46):
and Nigga great granddaddy, Nigga Nigga, his great granddaddy was
hating on Martin Luther kinging them Nigga's back in the day.
That's in a long line and you know this's in
the genes. You feel what I'm saying. You know, yeah,
I got a lot of money, man, you still got
a lot of I ain't seen you like yo. You
look at like money. That's get the kids. This is

(32:11):
this is two different letters from two different things. It's
noble master, what's going on? Good Man? Yeah? Yeah, I
know other Okay, Pep who never really meant okay. I'm saying,
I'm good Man. You have to show my ami. A
couple of them? Have I used to? I used to.

(32:31):
I used to have a house and corn gables. So
I looked down here for a minute. I stunned for
a minute for like nine of them. I don't even Kingston.
It is Jamaica getting gentified. Jamaica is is the best
place to live period for right. And why I say
that is because where I live in Kingston is five

(32:54):
minutes everywhere it's five minutes. You know what I'm saying.
I'm spoiled when I'm here. When I'm in Florida. I
got to like drive. I gotta like drive. If I'm
gonna go hollow, somebody in and say for a lot
of dale, that's an event, right, It depends on what
time of the day you're driving. That's an event. You're
sitting that traffic, so you're killing the whole day. Yeah, killed?

(33:17):
When kings then those shot if I get killing come out,
you know you know what was my favorite place? Then?
Um damn man typically got it. It's the worst, but
they got the best week. The whole got the high grade.
You gotta go to the when Tigo Bays turned up. Now,

(33:41):
if you're watching newst know what happened. That's all the
scammers of that on the scammers on the scamming. If
you look the national news, we got to get but
I got something for you. Ship like this, that's my
ship hold. That is the first. That's the sexy bottle.
Too sexy. They look especially that ship looked like a cologne.

(34:07):
Hold on Coca cocon is I'm the biggest fing Cocona
this You know what I'm saying now, is it Coca
Coca Yak? So that's the first coconut Kanyak. I'm gonna
keep it real home. We're gonna break your door. Joe
gave me this chain. He thought he's gonna get it back.
He's but that's the first coconut Kanye. You know what

(34:29):
I'm saying. And uh and it's it's uh. It smells
so good because it smells like a vacation. So hopefully smelling.
Now this this type of thing, because it's like a
perfume Bottle's chick's going want to eat you. You can
just you can just rub up in this you smell
you just rubbing that ship. That's I ain't bullshit, you

(34:51):
know what I'm saying. It's just good all right now,
now you shot that motherfucker right now, let's go. Let's
do it the ultimate to come here to truck and
then you'll know the fucking drink. I feel like I
feel like I'm gonna sweat this immediately since I take
this shot. This is a cognac that you will shoot

(35:12):
like this. You can take a shot of it. Well, no,
you don't help to a little bit shot than that,
come on, goddamn it. But but I feel its food
was going to get happens. He deserved a bigger shot.
Give me shot right there? Can you pack that class
right there? Yeah? Okay, we're gonna bo keate tho on me. Look,
come on, it's far for the you talking about. I

(35:39):
want you shot up ship and you want to be
like some sh let's ship. I've gotta say you can't
take a shot with the alright, so shoot it down. Oh,
it's smooth, of course it is. Oh, it's it's co spiel.

(35:59):
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Then I heard a rumor that that was you had
negotiated your album. You negotiated to get six or seven

(38:09):
dollars album after the million. Right. The thing about it
is I'm the artist that nobody ever see coming. So
when we did hot Shot, which was sold angel and
wasn't me the one we did Diamond Him. It was
a bitty where I did a record with Janet Jackson
for House Stella got her groove Battle, Oh boy, I

(38:31):
love you Red right now. It wasn't supposed to be
a single on the album Mary J. Blake because because
the soundtrack came out on the soundtrack came out on
m c A and Mary at that time was the
darling of of of m c A. So they put
her record as the single for the movie to come out.

(38:51):
So the movie came out, so the album had to
come out, but her record wasn't doing well at radio.
I've done this record with Janet Jackson. I never met
Janet Jackson. We ain't done it together, Jimmy Janet, Terry
Lewis hollowd at me. Apparently that wasn't in the studio.
No no, no, no, hold, I'll tell you. I'll tell
you how we ended up doing doing that record together. Um,

(39:11):
what's what's her name? Terry McMillan. Terry McMillan, who wrote
She's the one the story was about. Yeah, she was
the one in Jamaica and the Jamaican dude was been
a courting her and all of this ship. Then he
turned up being gay afterwards and all that ship. But
that dude apparently when he was courting her, the record

(39:32):
that they used to fun that was boombastic. So she exactly,
So what happens happening now, she says, she me Janet
terror Lewis, no matter why shot you gotta be on
that record. So they happened at me and I did
this record. I hear the hook, who boy? I obviously
I said who you want? He said, Mariah or Janet?
I said, anyone, any work for me? He just fought

(39:56):
on us. Yeah, it was my choice. I was just saying,
he said one of them. I'm like, at that time,
I'm excited the reggae dude. I didn't. I've never even
met any of these people. It ended up being Janet Strong.
Story short, when Mary record in the work rad you

(40:18):
just started playing that. The record went to number one
with me and Janet. So now I got a bidding war.
My man, Craig Calma was trying to sign. Meant yeah,
he was going there hard. And there was a bidding
war also between m c A and Craig Kalman. The
money kept going up. The money kept going up, right,
we had about a half a million, six or six

(40:40):
hundred thousand or something like that. Craig Calman at that
time wasn't the head of it. He was like the president.
A guy called Roger am was was his boss. So
he had a caple about a half a million he
couldn't go over. He went to Roger and be like, yo,
I listen to Shaggy album. You gotta let me sign him.
M c as just got me up there. I'm maxed out.
Roger ames As true story. He says, that's reggae. You'll

(41:03):
never make your money back. Show me a reggae record
that the album that I sold over a million records,
You're not gonna make your money back. And he said no,
So I went with m c A. Now, in doing that,
part of the deal I did was I did escalation
for for m c A. I did an escalation on
every million, so there's a half a point escalation on

(41:24):
every million, and they went with it because they didn't
want to give me any more up front money. They
capped out and say, okay, how are we gonna be?
I was gonna be. I was gonna be the um Atlantic.
We'll give you a half a point escalation and they
saying to it, boy, say here, reggae ain't no regga
gave a soul over a fucking million fun that give
him the half a million, the half a point escalation

(41:45):
fun that he'll only sell a million million half the
most fun. Well we sold ten million. Gilly, where was
you at when you heard it wasn't me? Where ship?
I was in Philly to all ninety nine, Yeah, it

(42:08):
was I think I had you listen you so you
could use for everything, for anything. I told the kids
they could use it for the mom said, my hand
wasn't a cookie job. How did you think of making
these when when you made these records, you thought it
was gonna be global and you just doing you To
be honest with you, some records you know it's special.

(42:30):
There's also another story to that same it wasn't me.
What if I told you that I believe in the
record so much when I did it, but the record
company didn't want it, and my current my ex my
ex manager at the time, I didn't want the record either,
so we all I tried giving the record away, so
you know, to Davante everyone falls in which they had

(42:54):
that record at that time, Tony Kelly produced that record.
They had it wasn't me, No, they had um everyone
for was it was a big record. I called this
dude called Brad the Cappam who was the uh the
r Sony. At the time I gave them that record,
I said, I said, Yo, this is a record. I
think it's be a good follow up after everyone falls
in love. The dude say, I don't think it's a hit,

(43:17):
and he played another record called Style, which is produced
by and I'm like, I'm right on that too, so
you know, but I'm saying this is a record. I
actually voiced tond on the Vantine and gave them, gave
the record to them and in our turn it down
and think it wasn't a hit. Then I gave it

(43:37):
to a kid called Notch from the Born Americans. Oh,
I know, I know, not exactly. He came back to
the student after the record and says he got a
vision from God that he ain't supposed to do these
kind of records. Fuck me, I mean like God gave
him the wrong vision. So I ended up and ended

(43:59):
up that this this white dude came We got a
new an R. Because you know who's my n R
at that time, too old Boy from What's Old Boy
from American Island, Black guy Randy Jackson. Randy Jackson was
my an R. Let's over here shooting at Jackson. Randy

(44:20):
Jackson was making a lot of hits. So they brought
this white boy in German, German dude by the name
of Hans head Off. He came to my house and
Long Island at that time, it was close by you
over there, queens, because I'm right at the border. So
he came over there and he walked in with a
bag of fucking weed. He came in. It was like yeah, yeah, yeah,
a new an R. I'm like, I don't small wow.

(44:45):
He got back on the phone and calling his bosses
and he was being racist racist. It was racist. He
called me. It was like he called his boss. I
hear him on the phone talking to his boss. It's like,
what the fund do I do with a bunch of
Jamaican when they don't smoke weak? So by that I said,
I said, we come down. Says, come listen to some
fucking music, motherfucker. Let's get this ship going. And you're

(45:06):
born in Jamaica, born in Kingston. I came to the
United States and he was in the military military the Marines,
did you first for the first goal for and then
Carolina was during while you was you remember you remember
that time we was doing big up, big up, big up,
big up, all the joints on the dance hall. Big Up,
Big Up Carolina was still the service at that time. Yeah.

(45:27):
I used to drive from North Carolinas to New York
every weekend just to go to records and go right back.
Really you ain't. You ain't never been to the Jamaican parties. Yeah,
you gotta go to the Jamaicans. Gotta be in Jamaica though,
Like where they pulled, they pull a truck up right,
You'll be like, yeah, we're the club at and they'll
pull the club you we had in the club you outside.

(45:48):
Always there's always war because if you have a nightclub,
you're competing with the street dances. So in the nightclubs,
you gotta have a CS on, you gotta have security.
Got street dance alight. My fucker's was coming there. You know.
You buy some white road put the you know, stole
string off my house. You're good? Yeah, what part of

(46:09):
jam I went to Kingston, Montego Bay, uh Rios went
to Typical Gardens. Actually I was actually I was out
shooting the video. I was scared to death. I used
to live on the other side of Matressly and happen
two View Mountain View. They called out the gods that
strip it was a dragon. Don't come down because of

(46:30):
because that street is is a bottom line between the
board political party switches political, so you should go you
go down there. It depends so when when you've got
political turmoil, that road is a rough, rough, rough road.
But things kind of cool down now. Man, your people
have gotten civilized now. Man, there's social media people. You know,

(46:51):
you gets the mood of Jamaica's people. Commute, let me
you're gonna run for You're running for man, and the
amount of taxes that you pay a way, uncle Sam,
And it's crazy that's about to get probably be your
president tonight. Man. You know what I'm saying, it's crazy.
Come to Jamaica the one crazy and y'all don't all
be knocking on my door if that motherfucker Win is

(47:12):
about two ways right now, I mean in Jamaica, be like, hey,
that's y'all know that mother He could come that one.
I don't know. Union Yea, this is so terrible you
having this conversation because it's like scary, scary it is.
It is scary, man, I said I wanted, but the

(47:35):
one good thing they passed the weed Lord of Florida.
That's what we are. They said, yes, so it's cool. Yeah,
I mean it's not that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's
cool that pass the weed. But it's not cool if
this guy went, we don't need this. Yeah, I know
I'm saying, you know what I mean, watching it all

(47:56):
day and it's been it's it's yeah, up and down.
So you want to you want to? I mean I
think they designed want to keep it for the raidings,
the ratings, keep your ass on the seat, right sporting event.
This is a serious for them, right yeah, they got
you got paid And Gilly, you ever been a Jamaica? No,
you never come down you h you got that's one

(48:16):
place as soon as you land. And so it's gonna
be a lady. You gonna run over your cart with
your foot like it's just not gonna say sorry. That's
how you know you're in Jamaica when last say you've
been there, like by me a year and a half,
two years. Like the old ladies, they just bump into
you and they won't say sorry. They'd be like and
then they look at you. You ain't come. Boy'd be like,

(48:39):
well I got there. They know you're not from there,
like yeah, like person, you take it personal. Oh ship,
this is this is they style. You gotta just go
with it. And the craziest ship they got sucking Chinese Jamaicans.
Those niggas is hell least you remember remember the voice

(49:00):
you see the voice of Chinese girl that was on
there to Sanche, Oh how do you see that? Right? Well,
she know he's mad, mad Chinese Roger and said, yo,
change Jamaicans in my life, for change Jamaica out here
with sto like yo yo yoing bad. He's like, way

(49:20):
I called me what you're like alazy when you see
that even right when you see white and it's white
Jamaicans because the Maco and Jamaica is out of many
one people. So meody' black and white, the Jamaicans, the India.
But my grandmother is is white, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, and and you know my wife is Irish,

(49:42):
you know what I'm saying that Jamaica say, it's all
it's all mixed up. So what's worse Shaggy Jamaica all Philly,
Philly a little partner. And it does depends on because
I've had some great fun in Philly too, So yeah,
it all depends on because it's no there's a war
zone in Philly. Man. They said, if you live in

(50:03):
Southwest and you're from the age of fourteen and twenty five,
you got a twenty four percent chance of being shot.
God bless God, blessed Philly. Feel what I'm saying, six,
goofy man, we need to get it together in a
black community Philly or or Shy Time. Whoa shot worse
at this point. See, with Philly, we always at the

(50:26):
top in murders because we don't when you look at
you talk about total crimes like you know, rapes and
car jackings, and we really not into that. Our youngns
is in there. We're gonna shoot you like that's that's
just what they into. What I mean say, this is

(50:49):
a bad way. But you know, I'm just kinda happy,
uh that somebody else is taking that rack of Jamaica
had that spot for absolutely. I mean in Shintown Feeling ship,
we ran that ship for years. At least somebody take
the spotlight on a lot the way we got coconuts. Yeah,
you know beaches. That's I'm trying to change your whole

(51:12):
new league, man. That's how we feel. We feel like man,
you gotta switch it off. Enough is enough. We gotta,
we gotta, we gotta because you know what, you know,
us as black people were blessed to have an audience
that we can speak to people, you know what I mean.
And you know I was a part of that dumb
ship for so many years. And you know I've been,

(51:32):
I've been got over it. But it was one thing
that really messed me up. It was this documentary I
watched for the thirteen These niggas ain't pay me no
money for this. This is awesome. And when I seen that,
I was like, if you're black at this point and
you can hurt another black man like and I mean,
you know I mean when I say black include the Latino.

(51:53):
You know what I'm saying. And I just want us
to get it together. I just want us to know that,
you know, we're better than you know what the hell
people think that we do. And like that ship is whacked,
like you know what I'm saying, like at this point
hurting each other, Let's just get this ship together. Ages
of motherfucker. Because you just said that. As you got older,
you see the things in a whole different legs. But

(52:15):
you were young, if I if I you know the
ship that I used to do when I was as young,
was he because I see these young things now and
I'm like, you know, I got kids in my own.
I got two sons you know that are that are
yeah you know what I mean that that that are
and they do dumb shit. Is sitting there trying to
be like yo, and I mean, and I got to
put myself in that shoe, be like all right, I

(52:37):
gotta approach it from a sensitive drink though, come on,
yea man, come on, I'm drinking that. But no, no, no,
you see this down. We're coming We're coming out back
with this now. So this is not available again until
this year. We're gonna relaunch. We had we came up

(52:58):
with about uh us, about like two cases or something
like that that we came with and we sold out.
How came to sell that bottle for that look about
six six, it's like two or three. So we can
have him here all the time. He was the only
one I got here because you know, we were supposed
to do this in the New York or something like that.
I forget and and and we ended up doing so
you know, this is my man's tenth bottle. You know

(53:20):
I took kids. You got trash, look like an oversized
travel Yeah. Cologne, good cologne. I ain't smell like smell.
I'll still want to rest. When you get drunk, you're
gonna smell the next day. Oh, it smells like cocoa,
but exactly at our engineer, our engineering want to drink

(53:42):
to that. Yeah, this is when it sounds crazy. Get
your cups, you know the only let's drink that whole.
Don't drink it all. And that made me feel we're
twin twin smell it twin to smell it. Oh man,
you see shot Yo, you see Gilly darn the King,

(54:02):
and we gotta you know what we gotta do. We
gotta shout out Philly because Philly supported young cat that
hit me up on the time on Twitter. Kay Walker,
Ye young rapping Walker's hungry. I learned about y'all from
you might know Rugs on the back game studio. They

(54:25):
can put me on the back, he said, you know
you're gonna be listening any This is the first time
artist is running the legal A lot of appreciate you brought.
The first time artist is running media and jp DJ
falling the Yeah a brodcast. So we big up all

(54:47):
legends because in this game, every time the person gets old,
they disrestract you. They say it's so over for you.
That's not what we do here. The older you get,
the more time you put it in this game, you
want a big upseat that. Absolutely, we want all legends
to be legends. That's what. And you know, I guess
what we want. Excuse me, I'm sorry sometimes about say.
I mean absolutely don't right, but we want to pick

(55:09):
up all legends and you know, keep our culture alive
and rock and roll. When you get old, you get
better hip hop. You get old, they say you hit
bro They washed up, that's what they say. We ain't
doing that over here over here. You know what I'm saying, Gilly,
you know what I'm saying, Shaggy picking it up. Come
on drinks too, Really, I ain't gonna falling up now

(55:33):
North Yeah she she everybody said, that's what you gotta
hit that, right? What is now? The craziest thing what
what y'all don't know is the guy that partner with
this on Those are the creators of great roops. Right,

(55:53):
that's all again, man John Frank who uh him and Sydney.
Ain't they created great Googles. They also had um yeah
your master tell me because all that me I like, yeas, yeah,
well you know they're just but oh yeah, that's cool.
Whenever I want my white friend yet really no, really, no,

(56:24):
no black man to just take your white friends to
the ball and holder yager. I bet she's gonna be
like this and see my high school days. She was
some high school ship. I'll tell you bring them back,
but YEA brings them back. Bring them back, dude, every
right friend you have that all you gotta do is
give him a shot of Yeager. You take them. You

(56:45):
started talking like you just signed Joel. I got you
by This is what I can't They always see ship on.
This is what I did in high school. You're sucking
in there, man, I tell me, like, so, what is
ghost can do to people? Goost looker. You know that
was the first drink component Oriega started drinking the Faith
new Ma. Yeah, with the Golden Social even sound. That

(57:10):
was some bullship. We got it tastes like tastes like
a never let me tell you how they called us
Faith Newman. She was the A and R Sony Records
and you know so uh, she had signed NAS, that's
who signed NAS. So she was trying to sign us
after and went to the studio one night and she
had it. So we drank the ship and we thought

(57:32):
it was some fly ship, but it was it was.
It did look good. We don't think we want to
make it. We did with the person that actually was
so fly. It was like, oh, ship didn't not. You know,
niggas got money and that was a regular but for
that time it was crazy for your grad at that time,

(57:52):
it was good. Yes, that's fact. Shaggy. Yeah, I think
do you think Dreak is getting all your pussy right now?
Excuse me? I think that. What do you think that
Drake is get over here, because he's kind of doing
like your ship man drink and I'm looking at you.
I'm like drinking Drake Beard, look like y'r ship to

(58:13):
drink drinking drink is drink drink is living it right here.
And he actually sounds good doing reggae, do you he
doesn't like I like the nail, you'll like the records. Actually,
keeping shaggy, but you got about a couple of south
keep me real fact, like, yo, you you're smashing a
lot of my bitch. Just get it the whole keep it.

(58:33):
I'm married. Oh yeah, but but you though if you wasn't.
But you know, do you like controller? Like man? This
nick keeping like you know what, Man, let's get to him.

(58:56):
I know it wasn't me that you know, pussy telling
you in my time, I got off a super dog.
Yeah I'm not nowhere, it's near. Yeah you are got
with throwing air, but he walked out. Let keep it
real and he could lie about after me. That pussy's

(59:19):
got they got that's passport, pussy visas and all that
international your gassport gotta be crazy. Yeah, you know what,
I gotta. I got a little bible because I can't
get them a little pages. I gotta. You know, hey, min,
I'm blessed because at the end of the day, these
records still take me around the world up my past

(59:39):
kind of crazy too crazy, got crazy. Ain't got in
on that and gonna change that. Ain't Jamaica. Now you
know why you can't even claim something if you never visited.
This is how you know you visited Jamaica. You gotta
be scared at something you know, scared you ain't visit.

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Why you can't pay on the beach. He was, I
went to a strip like just till dawn, like turn
that on for us. We went to a strip club
in the middle of the day. They turned them on
for us, chick like it was in the day where
we are. We went to somewhere like a tourist spot.

(01:00:23):
But we said, we don't want to be in the
tourist spot. We said, take us to the hood, to
a strip club. And they went. They not. The girl said,
they opened the loop and they turned that bridge up
and I was like, they're still dawn. The chick started
dancing on the ship led out the ball because say
highly it was nothing all right to Jamaica. Was drunk,

(01:00:46):
but it was hilarious. It was amazing, you can go.
You gotta go to Jamaica. Has somebody go all Jamaicans
do that when they mac kiss and kiss them teeth,
kiss my teeth, like showing you the old ladies. Soon
as I landed, it was three times I went back
to back to back and it was like the same
old ladies ran over my foot and I was just like,

(01:01:09):
I was excuse me, and she was like, oh, you
gotta go to the hood. I'll tell you the people,
I'm gonna tell you this funny story. You won't keep
it real, right, keeping it real right now? I shot
a video with Lexus and Wayne Wonder and anything goes.
So what happens? Is we in Jamaica? This poone I

(01:01:33):
did home said, pone go to typically gardens. He's like, yo,
that the best weed out there. He never tells me
it's the worst hood ever. Right. I don't know this,
but I'm this is my nick's this idea. Let me
go for it. We go out there, Yo, my nigga,
Does guy do this? You know, like, yeah, this ning

(01:01:56):
is huge. She can't go to the hood without you
got the hogad. You ain't gonna film inside there either
unless you had to. You know what it is wherever
you want the word this was, I had to do it.
Great guy, very assuming guys. Guy little stock came, but

(01:02:19):
very unassuming. You would not think that that guy is
the guy I got you. Damn. The people I met
this in like a cave. He had like a in
the cave was the hardest ship. Guy. I ain't even
trying to be listing keeping there on it. You know,
you know you know that, all right? All right? Listen

(01:02:43):
he was the mind them, that's what they call it.
The mind the mind them. No meet in public, met
him miss male place and playing up she was there.
I never seen no ship like for anyway. So we
know we got the pass for me and and um rooster,

(01:03:03):
bigger rooster that was his like guy who's controlling it
did so we kept filming. It's a rooster comes to
us and says, um. He goes, yo, you know when
you got spinish filming, you don't gotta go on the trailer.
So I knew exactly what the nigger was trying to say.
You thinkers look a little soft, look a little salt.

(01:03:26):
Let me. He say that, But I'm reading. I'm a
street there. I'm reading. You know, I tell you film.
You know y'all don't gotta go. I was like, oh ship,
so I feel next, see right, I stand there for
some reason, I'm don't know. I don't know how my
niggas stay in the trailer. Some tough niggers I got
with me, by the way, real killers in the streets.

(01:03:50):
But they were just sleeping. They're sitting there smoking because
not paying at the guy. Guy goes, you got I
got a little song, my nigga this nigga hand me
a bag. Oh we like, jarem near the size of
this table like that? So now this this is crazy ship.

(01:04:12):
They just told me. You know, I don't go back
into trailer. My homiesn't it the trailer. But I just
remember what he said, so I stood there. I said,
I gotta take it. Nor so many whiles you're making
niggas with swords when they faced niggas. You know, I

(01:04:32):
like steak these niggers. These niggers just looking at me like, no,
I'm I'm a real nigger. But now I got a
bag of the side. There's no way I'm trying to
trail like somebody come around from when I'm I'm protected.

(01:04:54):
But still these niggas is looking at me like I'm steak.
I'm American. They ain't never seen you know what I'm saying.
I stood there, so now none of my nigga is
catching on. The cigars is in the trailer. So I
walk and you know it's it's always one guy. There's

(01:05:14):
always one guy always, and the one guy goes and
give me a sliff stick of that. And there's no respect,
by the way, Oh, there was no love with that,
just like yo, give me your spliff. I thought to myself,
I said, Shrine, you've been to jail, but you did

(01:05:37):
open up this bag. You open up this bag. The
whole hood is you know. They I'm fooled an smell it.
So every I've got every bit of courage. No, no,
I don't got no wins just in case they're gonna
kill him. They're gonna kill him, but just for now,
I just might not have a win right now. So

(01:05:58):
I look at the ni. I said, let's relax because
I would get you. I'll give your body. I'm just
not doing it right here. And the way you approaching
me is just not right now. The nigga falls, I

(01:06:19):
don't say ship like homie, you chip, I go on
the trailer. I want to flip on my niggas first,
and what with the nigga knocks on the door, something
like I had like nine Now it's cool. I pulled
out a little. They hit this nigga. Yo, These you're

(01:06:41):
making niggas came out or we'll tell you. You know
one touch to come on. These niggas had the biggest knives.
I don't know where these much these came from. My nigga.
They were chopping trees somewhere these niggers came. No one
touched that, no one asked that you came out. Then
they made they so much ship to this ship apologize

(01:07:04):
to him. Yoh man. I was like, Yo, these niggas
were so serious. I listen, we don't got a hood
of America. I'm gonna keep it a hunted that The
thing is. The thing is that is arguably that the
hood in Jamaica has actually run better with the Dons
than without. Because it was happening to Chicago, it was

(01:07:25):
there was a more O g s. There's there's an order.
There's an order you gotta follow. If I follow the art,
order went to come. Do you know most of these guys,
as much as here about Tazi are not sorry these guys.
These guys did a lot of things for their communities,
you know, like, yeah, kids that couldn't come out afternoon,
my man spanky out there on a week night on

(01:07:47):
a school night, they couldn't come out, you know what
I'm saying. And if the kid then come over to
Lee didn't have a conversation with the parents, was gonna
be mean a night conversation either, you know, I mean
that they provided cool books and you know what I mean, uh,
you know bags, you know, whatever they needed and helped.
So you know when those when you got those dons

(01:08:08):
in the neighborhood, you know, I mean, things just running on.
Once those guys are out of there, there was cass
you know what I'm saying. And then so you have
disorder so to speak, you know what I'm saying, and
there's always that that that it's almost like that unspoken respect.
I did a concert in the General Penitentiary because I'm
from Rayton. I was born the Rayton right on the seaside,

(01:08:31):
so right there you got that prison. So I went
into the prison and played the concert. I was one
of the only person that ever did that for me.
And I brought Sly and Robbie originals, so we went
in there and played. Now, this is a person that's
got super overcrowded, probably toasted about two thousand people in
their convicts. You walk in there and take everything away

(01:08:52):
from me, including your cell phone. I think I see
no god of the gun. So you probably got like
twenty guard and two thousand inmates and were on the
concert plane. So I'm playing everything streaming up boom. You know,
first of all, I started to think about it. I
got a prison full of dudes and all my songs

(01:09:12):
of chicksaw and I was like, I'm all seeing girl
on my angels all what I'm saying. I got to
try to switch it up and said, yeah, anyone on
over the money on the money, I care food about girl,
You're my angel, and they just they just rocked with it.
But the funniest, the craziest part about it was there

(01:09:33):
was a line they stood in all the all the
convicts that were all all the inmates were all out
on the line and there was there was no There
was one guard with a with a baton and another
guard at the other and with to and they stood
like this and they actually wasn't even looking. They're just
watching the show. There was not a route, there was

(01:09:54):
not a barrier, there was not a barricade. They all
just stood in a line. And when when I dropped tune,
and it's like an imaginary line and if one dude
football for another dude look at him and that was it.
So I looked at the guard afterwards, I was like,
how you control all these guys? And I mean, it's
just Kingston, you know, what I'm saying. You got two

(01:10:16):
thousand mates, you look heavily outnumbered. And he said, they
ain't really scared of us. They scared of the knicks
in me because one dude step out of line, sucking
up everybody like the house man. You know, you know
what I'm saying. So it's it's that, it's that that
mentality that they're having the head of Let's say, oh, listen,

(01:10:37):
you know there's an order that is run right here,
Shaggy coming in here, gonna play a concert. We don't
see concerts once we've done with the whole thing. I
was might say, Oh, I shot that. I knew why
it was that every you didn't described that to me

(01:10:57):
and out of pussy when you and you sold in
a million, because like I sold a million, right enough,
like like that that was it? Like but ten million?
Like I know what I was getting done? That Like
how was it? At the height at the height of
it unbelievable the shaggy shaggy guys, right, let's keep it red. Yeah,

(01:11:19):
you know what jamaking you listen abound, listen, listen. Anybody
that amount of I don't take them to get the
brown boots and stopped saying big sound. Anybody with that
amount of success shouldn't have a pussy problem. But how
is it though? I like what I'm saying. Of course
it has to be great, bro, Yeah, yeah, I'm saying. Yeah.

(01:11:46):
The thing is that I was never used. I'm just
never new to these months because if you ever from
o Carolina, there was another global it. So I've been
getting blow and snatch all my life. You know what
I'm saying. Class, that's like you know, taking ship down down,
you know, I mean, like you gotta be used to
that from from day one, from from in school. Even

(01:12:08):
I was in the middle of a matter of fact,
I was in the war. I probably probably only few
people in in the middle of the desert that got
Yeah he got some desert. Now he's out there and

(01:12:30):
he gets the contest. There's a couple of jobs you got, damn.
In the military, I was a cannon there, which is
known as now it was almost as it's artillery. I
fired one five howitzers and the ship lands indirect fire
or some fucking grid scare and blows some motherfucker's support.

(01:12:54):
I fired ship. Now, so while we was there, ship
how your body niggas and he was in the world
first first go for It's record was behind us from
first singing niggas the singing to the chill example. But

(01:13:23):
it's certain jobs and hit him from eight miles away.
It's old, but there's certain jobs in there that you get.
I used to I used to be there. I'm a
skater what they call in military skater. What that means,
ship of means I You know, I ain't going around
saying who ra who raw? You know what I'm saying.
If I could pop my jeep and put my foot
up and chill, I'm gonna do it. You ain't gonna

(01:13:47):
see me running around trying to be yes CEO. And
that's the military, and I'm gonna get this simple five.
You know what I'm saying, Do or die? First? The
boat Bush first books, you go, Daddy Bush, that's another bush.

(01:14:12):
I'm like the point I was trying to me. I
used to drive and go for the child truck. I'm
the guy. Now you see all you got navigation system
in your car right now. We used to drive them
home via the big old and flat ones. But they
had these big gas navigations, a big white thing and
that's that was how we used to drive to find
a ways to the to the to the main base

(01:14:33):
to pick up the child. Now, when you're picking up
child and stuff like that, child was actually the breakfast
and the food. You go down there, they give you
five five loaf of bread. I put one under my seat.
You get six ft butters. I put one out of
my seat. So I'm you know, I'm the mat. You know,
everybody wants something, y'all. You know, I pick up the mail.
My father's glad to see me because I got the mail.

(01:14:54):
You know, it's glad to see me because you know
I'm come in. I got cigarettes. It is what it is,
you know. So me and everybody on the tunis in
the batteries. Friend, how does Janet Jackson smell? I never
met he? Remember, I told you, I told you I
thought we did the record together. She was never in
my video. She never no, no, no, no, she didn't.
I took it the number one though she won't to

(01:15:18):
do know with the record. But I took it all
the way. So it's all good. I'm mad. I just
need But I went back. When I went down to
the main base, they had women marines and they would
jose because they don't one giving you the food and
giving your mail and all that. The Admint girls. So
you gotta make yourself, you know, made some things like

(01:15:40):
but you met Maria carry before you know what I did.
I didn't meet Maria, but you met the tune, So
stoping trying to me. Yeah, but I don't know, all right,
little relationship. I don't have no famous relationship. I'm going
you all right now, relaxed. I don't what are famous.

(01:16:02):
I'm knocked down a lot of famous bitches, but let
me but none but none of them that you know,
I ain't out there like that. I like that, you
know what I'm saying. I respect how you put it,
but but that's was that was pre social media. Like
right now, y'all gonna with that ship. That's what I

(01:16:23):
don't But it's a good time to show you're walking
straight right now, because I know you walk straight right now.
You're good dude, right now, you're great guy. You know,
I mean you follow your husband and all that ship. Yeah,
you can't work in this time, but the environment, you
gotta put all that down. Just put the youngest they
see now, they want they want to put everything out there,
and you we got problems like, yeah, I can't. I'm
keeping it. Yeah, we catch But I know at one

(01:16:44):
point you was a wild nickel. I don't know, I've
been that my whole life. Like you're sold tammillion just
makes some noise for that guy, you know what? And
then but you know one is that you know he's
sold ten million. It was a global though it was
a global you made global music. You made music that transitive,

(01:17:07):
like when I made super Dog or Homeboy, like the
even Gondo these records that you know, is he one
hundred plays? It was always bumped out to me. Yeah,
that's the whole new audience who didn't look at you
like he's one of our Caucasians were like that's why.
I just I mean, I don't know if I'm the

(01:17:34):
only other person that's so diamond is Bob Martin so
not even shop shop so goldhop so gold. But we
I'm the only one UM that has a has a
diamond album And the first you're gonna tell you Murder
she Road isn't It didn't even make it that way

(01:17:55):
that I think it was a number one. But I
had the first Dansaw number one UM with Old Caroline
and the British chart at the first The first Dansaw
record actually debut with number one in the British shop
was Mr boombastd. We did, We did three times, Mr
Boombastad Angel. It wasn't me. Yeah, no, no that. But

(01:18:16):
I'm saying, when you come, you know the British shot,
when you come out of the charts, we got climbing charts.
I debut in at number one, right and then I'm
the only dance all artists with a number one album,
which is Hot Shot. And you know, they took us
off the number one spot. I remember Jay Look came
in and took us off, and we took her back off.
And it's just one of the situation and we've been consistent.
Look at this. This is twenty sixty and I'm forty

(01:18:38):
years old and I was you know, I had a
top twenty hit last year with um I Need You Off.
We're back up on the charts again. We're in the
top for you right now. It's still blessed to still
be doing that. What about Jo I met her, She's
one of my favorite. She's actually great, great, great Jesus.

(01:19:01):
You know you know what I gotta I gotta give
it up to the jail about you see all these
young chicks now that's coming up, all of the young
chicks and jail O is like O G and you
see her on that red carp and she made them
bitches look like they all these chicks look like they're
not trying anything. Yeah, I met you. When I met up,
you know what, I'm scared. I was scared. I was scared.

(01:19:23):
I folded clean on Puar. The weekends different for me.
That's like our queen, you know what I mean, the
weekends our queen. And then when I've seen that she
was with Mark Anthony, I was like I walked in,
I just fro like, oh ship, oh my god. Well
I went to the bar. I was just like, damn,

(01:19:44):
I don't know, like I don't I feel like I'm
like this is crookie, like I feel like it. But
I really want to be a group. I want to
Anthony groopy for her. It's good though, it's cool. It's
why scoop, that's crazy. That's why I was over let me.
It was all because I went to the ball. Try
to get smooth, get your life together, noise, you know, No,

(01:20:07):
I'm starting there's a boat. I'm Puerto rican you know
what this is two icons to me. So I got
there and I started drinking, and then I looked and
it looked like they were arguing. I said, it's I'm
not walking over there. They looked like they argument. They
don't see no security is just j Lo and Ma.

(01:20:28):
I left left me. I met j Yes back at
a at Puff Studio. She's super nice. But one time
I asked you how she smelled to I didn't smell up,
but then she looked. You can't be in the room
with j Lo and not smell. Listen, that's gopped to
be on purpose. That's the first thing to do. But

(01:20:50):
this was this was this was back. I'm talking about
way back, bro when well she was this was like
ninety nine. She was dating Puff. Yes already he's talking
about I don't know. I didn't know what in it
down listen. I didn't know. Event I just know, you know,

(01:21:11):
me Tony Draper walking Tino Lava and you know, she's
sitting there and we just looking like god, damn it,
you know, like you know, and then it turned into
something else, you know, puffing up betting twenty five thousand
on my son my song and Drake that twenty five
thousand on me. It took us a big rich nigger

(01:21:32):
ship doing rich nicks that he was doing some rich
nip battles were doing along. I was looking, good man,
I'll be watching you. You've been doing not No, he's
doing rich nigger ship. He's doing rich wealthy and you

(01:21:56):
like the thing about music is it's the best thing
about music is when it transcends, when it goes from
like like and I'm telling you this what the War Report,
the Warriport on it so far on a thousand, so
I don't got no type of success when it compared
to him. But War Report was only made for queens.
We didn't know any world. Because if you listen to

(01:22:17):
the Worridport album is so great, but it's so also
like you can tell we never forgot on the plane.
I'm saying a little snow seven. Shoot you in your face.
You don't saying section two like it's really like because

(01:22:40):
my creativity, it couldn't it couldn't go because because and
I didn't make it for just that and when the
world like to this day, like I swear to God,
we'll go when we're performing the War Report and they'll
be well performed songs, and they'll be people in the
front of Europe and they'd be people just saying war report.
Be looking at the like your hold up, relax one,

(01:23:04):
relax too, I'm getting there. Yeah, we're standing there, war reported, Relax.
And then you either do the war report. That's what
they're there for. But you didn't do it for that.
And when the transitions your your music, it was, you know,
worldwide from the beginning, this is beautiful Like me and Gilly,

(01:23:27):
you know we make the hood music. Do we do that?
And we started like that though because you remember like
big up mum pig. See all those records were like
a little because I'm I live in the flatbush, you
know what I'm saying. So all of that, you know,
um Starlight, Ballroom, Built More Ballroom, Dynasty, the whole that

(01:23:48):
that was a whole stomped around it. We used to
go from back in the days me Super Cat, Red Fox,
Dread and I'm saying all those all those, Dad's all.
We had a we had a thing called we had
a thing called the Rough intr Crew and we just
you know, we just hit on the ground at the time.
We'll divid Levy and Stilling all them you know, Bobby Connas,

(01:24:09):
all the people, big up Bobby, you know what I mean.
There's those are real. There's just real dudes that I
that I you know, this was rowing back in the days,
you know what I mean. When you're talking when Louis
Round can come to type right now, you know what
I'm saying. All them days make Daddy the old vibe
from coming up, you know at that time. Wes roll
with with with Heavy D Welcome to play a new

(01:24:38):
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to Drink Chaps Radio with Rapper and R and d
J f N. So I want to question for y'all, Yeah,
what's your favorite year? You favorite? Yeah? Yeah, you mean

(01:25:03):
like an errow errow or yeah, whatever you want. I
wouldn't have, honestly, the whole Biggy Tupac ever I would
agree to. I don't agree to that was my favorite.
To the beef though, I mean no, man, I'm just
even just the whole. That's that's I say. Prior to

(01:25:26):
the beef too, well, what big and pop beef? Little
after that? I know what l A L A so
where you're a part of the beef and yeah, yeah
it's funny. I just forgot I ain't gonna live when

(01:25:51):
we did l A, l A. We've never even been
to light never. We never seen I never. I mean,
but it was it was. It was just looked upon like,
oh they real motherfucker's they standing up for their city.
You know, that's how it was looked at. You know,
I know from Philly. That's I was a young nig like,
I mean, that was it. That was it. But um,
you know it was great. Uh it was ironic that

(01:26:14):
you know, I went down, but you know l A
is one of my favorite places. Ago l A was
anumber two market and drink champs. I was a kid,
UHM did with my heart felt that they forgave me.
I forgave them. We lived on. But you know, ship
really you know that music was real. So do you
think this era of music like you think it's gonna

(01:26:36):
stand this test of time? Never the music disrespect But
I just think, I mean some artists are, but the
music as a whole, Like like when compare that sound
exactly good point even though it's a sound, if you
got that sound, but you got timeless music, then it can.

(01:27:00):
But if it's not timeless, you know what I mean,
Like those rappers made timeless music, dear Mama, you know
what I mean, those are timeless records. Like I always
think that the the the flavor or the secret I

(01:27:21):
would say to making timeless music is actually making doing
it with timeless instruments, because it's like, for instance, you
might hear a certain sound on the record that you
could just know that was in the eighties. You can
know the error from the sound of the keyboard sound
with it. Did the snare sound like like that? Most
of the clap you just don't know that. Oh yeah,

(01:27:41):
that's that era. You know what I'm saying. You know
when when when he got DJ must Yeah, yeah, you
know when when you get when you get like, uh,
what was what was? So? What was that? That that
whole tropical house sound? Did you hear that that that
keyboard sound? You know what eror it is? You know
what I mean. There's certain type of music where you
hear that that music, Okay, I remember that all them

(01:28:04):
eighties sound. I think if you're gonna make when you're
making classics, you gotta make it with There's certain instruments
that never change. Your classic keyboard, your classic piano style,
never change, your classic rock guitar, never changed, your classical
qu stick guitar, never played. You know what I mean.
It's just you're big. Yeah, you know what I mean.
So if you keep it, put those elements in it
and throw that around it. You know, a classic record

(01:28:25):
when you hear it, you know when you got it.
You know, he was asking me, did I know that
wasn't mean Angel was gonna be big? I knew those
records were special, Like when I did Mr. Bombastade. The
minute we did it, I was like, okay, this this
is some different ship. I just knew what this ship was.
You know, you knew it. My problem is always convincing
another motherfucker, Like record niggas and the ships. Your mother
would be like, yo, well you know it does sound shaggy.

(01:28:45):
And if I'm like I'm shaggy, I'm what the funk
I sound like? You know? Yeah, the fucking me and
you know it don't sound shaggy, And well, you know,
I don't think that's a shaggy record. You know, because
they sitting there and they over analyze this ship, you
know what I mean and it's a cookie cutting ship.
It was, well, you know he did Old Carolina, would
like you do another Old Carolina again. I'm like, yeah,
but I'm my musically, I ain't there. I'm on some

(01:29:07):
other ship. Well, you know, I think you should do Carolina.
So I refused to do it, and then Chock a
Demon supplies did you know twister and shout and tease me,
which was kind of the same as Old Carolina. Then
Apache Indian did boom Shot a normal because it was
so hute. They started doing that and they told me,
all you know, he's wanted wander. I was ever gonna

(01:29:28):
go out. So I came back with Bombastic, which was
totally different. But it's you standing up to that. And
that's what being a young like. Now you you older,
Now you're gonna be to sit down and analyzing ship
was like, well, you know, I really want to piss
the record covered up. When you're a young bucking you
don't give a funk. I just had money and I
bought a car and I was getting pussy man. I
could give a ship saying company, I'm gonna be There's

(01:29:48):
what I'm saying. Because you're young. You're young when you're young.
That was my whole thing. At that point. They called
me difficult. I was like, yo, fuck you, I was
I'm always difficult, gonna win, difficult if I want to win. Yeah,
you and you disagree with that, win right, I'm always difficult.
Accept But my thing is patterns. If you see a pattern,

(01:30:10):
go down. If you got a check that the fund
to you all the time, from everything, every man she's
been with, and then she comes and said, Honory, you know,
I don't know all my five guys, but you were special.
Chances are she's gonna YouTube that's a pattern, you know
what I mean? They got the dudes in my record
company that every record they touched failing. They still want
to call shot. You know what I'm saying that. No, man,

(01:30:38):
I'm gonna take a break. Tell the story, really over
the story, man, and you tell the story wrong. On
top of that, fans love the way the wrong story
changes every time. This is a great fun by. If
this is drunk history, the story just changed every time
you acted out differently, isn't fucking awesome? Hold on now,

(01:31:02):
I'm going to tell the story. So well, you got something,
you got something you want to get up? Hold on,
come on, we got about five ten more minutes. We
were right right, everybody good unless you I want to
keep going. We keep going? Is good point because Gilly

(01:31:23):
the kids still do you love Wrap? Still you still
love Wrap? You can tell I just you know, I
just understand that it's now wraps as about a wave.
You know what I mean. It's the wave, It's the
m you know what I'm saying, more than more than
you know the talent, it's the wave. But it's kind

(01:31:45):
of coming back around to Wrap now with like Davis, right,
But you know, that's what they do, you know what
I mean, That's what artists who are not a lot
of artists don't know who they are. They're trying to
figure out who they are. A lot of younger So
it seems that hip hop is getting old enough now
that it could fall in its own categories. It's gonna
be the youth hip hop, that's gonna be the other errors. Absolutely,

(01:32:08):
you really can't be an artist this day unless you're
a celebrity. She back in the days, you could have
been an artist without being a celebrity. You know what
I'm saying. Now now now you now you gotta be
a celebrity. You know what I'm saying, Like you're here
about Shaggy one time when when you got a hot record,
I wasn't your red carpet dude. That's why you ain't

(01:32:29):
got no tabloid information that you're trying to dig up
on me, that you're trying to do what I'm saying.
It was like I heard you know what I mean,
But nigger, The thing is he was luck in Hollywood?
Was he down? Okay, It's okay, I get all of that.

(01:32:50):
But the point is, the point is tell us one right.
The point is I'm saying to you nor it wasn't me.
That's my story and I'm sticking through. But but everybody
gotta be a celebrity. And it's almost as if you
gotta you gotta air your laundry out um to get

(01:33:12):
your music played, because it's about it's a numbers game.
It's about follow us, right, ain't about or not. There's
people who never had a hit, but they got mad
fans that sing every line to a record that they
do because they got numbers, you know what I mean.
And and people are making disposable music nowadays. I don't
think it's probably disposable to you and me, I mean

(01:33:34):
not everybody. People have always made disposable music, always, always,
but now it's just more of it now because it
was like the record labels just looking for Oh this
is a hot record. This is all we care about.
We don't care what you got lined up next. Before
it was like hold on, but what we're gonna follow

(01:33:54):
this up with? You know what I mean? And then
what we're going to follow that up with with now
was like we could sellers. You don't his own ship?
I was, but you think I was just you think
not taking the beer pit. You really drink your own

(01:34:16):
You a smell like cocoa, but don't want people cocoa.
And she related to me immediately and I don't. I
don't drink. Yeah, you drink this though I drink. I'm not.
I wouldn't need a Kanye drinking. But I fought with
this with that. What I'm saying boys know what they
do with the cocoa. But that's what I'm saying. You

(01:34:36):
got a massage, chicken smell smell, you get a drunken
massage at the same time. Last ye this, I definitely
still want to wake my like this is so how
did you get invo this? Well, I mean, uh, the
guys that do Green Goose, Uh fella by the name
of John John Frank and his wife Andrea. Uh, they

(01:34:59):
were like really big shaggy fans. Actually played their birthday
party for them, and we just became friends and uh,
you know, I just played. I didn't really know who
the guy was, and you know, we just kind of
kicked it off and then realized that you know, I
think Craig Goose was so for like three billion or
something like that. You know, so at the end of
the day. Yeah, so that at that point he started

(01:35:23):
to you know, during her French and started telling me
about the liquor business. Let me, let me understand it
a lot more and realize, um, the opportunities that was there.
You know, you're saying, of course he did wonderful job.
Yeah he did. He did over but uh, it's it's
a big business. You know, it's a business with a

(01:35:45):
lot of restrictions. So it was already created. Well now
he was just telling me about it and and then
he came up with the idea of doing it. And
what what he said to me was like, we're going
to be first to market because there's not a cognact.
There's flavored vodka, but it's not a flavored conac because
you know, I've seen it rock before before Pauf got
involved with his drinks around France back in the days,

(01:36:08):
and PuF came seeing it, right, so it's coming in
and see and he just brown into them and coming
up with flavor like a flavor of kannyac and a
coconut flavor of kanya and you know he brought it
that's actually good. Yeah, but what do you ain't saying
this because you're here and it was good. It's going
on smooth, but it sucks you up. But the good

(01:36:29):
I'm up. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing about it too,
he what was genius about him? He says, He says.
One of the biggest selling industries the perfume industry perfect
like a cologne, the cologne industry. And when you think
about the cologne industry, the kid about to go to
the cologne look at him and telling you. But with
the cologne industry. The thing about the cologne industry, keep talking,

(01:36:49):
that's actually like act itself is not what's expensive, it's
the fucking bottle and what sells it is the bottle.
No matter how dope the bottle is, that's what the
funk you buy. You know what I'm saying. Craig Goose
sold because of that fucking bottle and then fucking Gooses
in the back and ship and the ship look good,
and from the bottle is like that. You look at
that ship. Even though I'm done this ship, You're probably

(01:37:10):
gonna take the bottle on and be like, Okay, I'm
gonna put this on my stad more bottles, like I
need more botles. That's that's right. So so you know,
you gotta get into everything now, man, that's a that's
a different area. Now. Back in the days, we just
sold records and made the money and drop off. You
gotta you gotta be you gotta do too much now,

(01:37:32):
you know, you gotta get brad. You gotta be a brad.
You know why you're doing on it? You're happy doing it.
If you gotta be happy at life, you gotta be happy.
So why did they tell me that's that's what you drink.
I don't know, because I can't get that. This is
what I drink when I don't have that, you know
what I'm saying. But I'm not going to break that
down for I'm not gonna have this kid and go
drink that sad much in tonic. Dude, you know it's

(01:37:55):
hendricks gin because but who told you this? I don't
see the Tonic waters. Yeah, so you ain't tell us
there's no there's no cucumbers. You need cucumbers for it,
because I'm saying, like, at gonna drink they drink. He's
usually a club solder guy. But I totally forgot. Remember

(01:38:17):
we're pop pop. I say, I think I should get
what did people drink? Gen and juice? But I wouldn't
have got the Tonic? Yeah, I was like that, but
I guess you could probably have. You got your own. Um,
look at we support that, you know what I mean?
Smelling cocoa butter. He can you can't say that to

(01:38:39):
you now? It's good man, and you know we'll definitely
we definitely hook you up for that. Trust me. You
know what I'm saying, because I see that man, you
might might it's been here sting when fifty was here
last time. Yeah yeah, and still he just losing you
all up. Yeah yeah and give me a little bad
yeah yeah. Maybe the way we've done it in New

(01:39:04):
York and got you. Yeah. Let's you know, that's that's
big up. That's big up rock. Let's big up effort.
That's bigger. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get
to it. Just go poppington Dame dash bottles, the big
bottles over there week when you get ye dame ship ship.
But you can't miss how I want to have it.
It's just rap. You can't miss this ship and just
wrap on. That's how I want to add the whole table.

(01:39:26):
Just wrapping lega. It's just a league, you know, it's
things unless you know, unless on the end. And I
would like to just support when I say wrap but
I mean industry, like you know, just are people just
you know, just music people. That's where I want that,
you know what I mean? Like's on here? Yeah? Yeah up, okay,

(01:39:49):
take a ball. I don't want to try to take
a BAMBALLA hold up. I feel like that part of
you don't see it. But you know, you know the
tyger bomb that they used to rub you up but
when you get sick. Yeah yeah, but this is a
type of bomb. This is you just sold another they use,

(01:40:11):
like my brothers words, a male enhancement. Come on, nothing
to make your dick die. It's very endiculous. I'm just saying,
you know, I'm Jamaican. Yeah you're not. You're gonna sell
you know you can sell through Jamaican. They're gonna make
your dig If this ship is gonna die, they're gonna
just got pull a little shots. Ween't drinking soy sauce. Yeah,

(01:40:35):
that's what it is. Chinese secrets. They were drinking. Drink
a little shot of soy sauce. Get your life right.
We've got some four or five rice to go with
that gonna help everybody in the long run. I really
didn't want it. But if I don't want to make

(01:40:56):
some to taste, you got me New cups, the business
of new cup here right here, really listening a shop shot. Wait, wait,
you should even smell you smell it. This is stronger
eighty seven is going what do you drinking? You say

(01:41:20):
it wasn't me listening is ninety three at it's been
fermenting since it. Just like Wolf Pussy, I like it,
I got you, I got you, I got change. He

(01:41:41):
totally connect with the got challenge right all right, right, Michael,
big mommation, get you join you take another one Twin's crap.

(01:42:02):
You got issues. Fuck, he's still actually got the thirty seconds.
That ship tastes like medicine broad one too. Fucking hell,
let's put that away. Yeah, they used to make it
a real black so imagine they had to replace real
like bo ship. That ship is not the best. Yeah.

(01:42:29):
Actually that's the one that I've never seen that Jamaica.
Where do you bud? Yeah, yeah, you never see that
Jamaican of pubs and can read it. Just read with
it exactly Chinese, exactly. That's what we just drank a
big bomb drinking and that should burn your chests going

(01:42:55):
down to pause pause. I usually give it to guests,
you know, to bring it out of but y'all think
it is already an open book, so it's like it's
kind of foul. So I gotta tell y'all, but this
is it can't look at me like, let's never tell
your change your life, like to change people having the
wrong way that change your life right now, I don't

(01:43:17):
know it's gonna change your life. You're gonna look at
life when you say that's in the future. This is
it's horrible. Now you made that a real cycable back
was killing tigers. Fuck it's that bros. It called tiger balls.

(01:43:37):
It was for real Originally, Originally it was like a viagral.
Originally it was like about. Now it could still be about,
but it's not gonna walk around. You know, it's the world.
But if you happen to get in, you haven't played
the game tonight, you're gonna knock it out the pop

(01:43:58):
Paul must see. You ain't to think. That's why Fox
with this. You can hear it and you can live
a normal life when you hit some viagg ship. You know,
I'm thirty nine, I'm one year and it's the forty.
I don't know. I ain't never had to use the
viag because of I'm a tager bone guy. Get don's

(01:44:21):
to tell the story before while I started drinking tag
because I don't even know why the fun it just
popped up, so you actually drinking though I thought it
was just because like drink one day drinking for years
years old man came and he hugged the guy the
way he hugged him, like tears came out of his eyes.

(01:44:46):
But it wasn't know, like no no pussy ship like
this man grab man hugged there. I see man, sixty
year old nigga hugging nick just scave my life. So
I stood there, I waited my turn, and I asked
the old nigger. I said, Yo, what was that about?

(01:45:09):
He said, I couldn't fuck my wife for two years.
I couldn't get off. Nothing worked. I told my wife
the funck other man. She didn't do it, so I kept.
You know, I did all the white man drugs, he said.

(01:45:29):
He walked in, and then Nigga said he gave him
some pills, some weat grass and tiger bone, and that
man fucked. Shout out his wife. This nigga man drinking

(01:45:50):
tiger because the nigger dick was bruised that you went
to school twenty years ago. He was sick. See shot
this fucking this dick should have been brute. But broking
back to life's gotta be drinking this hot ship because
the old hen in the story dick was brouke. Yeah, ship,

(01:46:17):
you deal bad for that, don't fun This is a
miracle to certain people, and this ship just matter sent
to people like listen, this is a Chinese herb. This
ain't no, this ain't no, this is this is so
I want to do that nigga, how do you do
from drinking this snip cop? But the definitely saying what's

(01:46:43):
going on? Broke this to that is to some tiger pits.
But we'll all due respect. I'm gonna keeping a hunting
with y'all. Puff sat here and made a drink. Oh
I didn't everything join up? Remember yeah? Everything poorting everything
into the coachell. You will have more pat that ship

(01:47:06):
I've got here. I don't even know if that's really
gonna get out of that true story, true, it's okay.
He give different versions of his defense like this is
this is really it was an epic fun gets it
he says? He says, you know we asked funny questions.

(01:47:26):
We asked you if he asked yes? Right? That right?
We actually be asked right you said no already? I
remember that respect too far, to far right. Sorry, I've
gone to a far too fun, too far acto. So

(01:47:56):
tin Mill you know something you get back to you
don't know what you're trying to far. I don't know
what then you're gonna say, came in so he comes in.
I don't forget what he and say he men say

(01:48:17):
something like oh we went at me and right like,
but just gonna is this one I just brought? And
we said alacks, playboy, you check in clear yet? Oh yeah,
because he said hetas yeah. Then he said puff eyeless

(01:48:38):
jay lit smile. It was I don't water. He was
out on that. What he said, mind you because ladies
here go, you don't have to whisper man. Cass was like,

(01:49:01):
your mother A right, chickens my sister. That's my homie.
The way the way you said that, I feel like
you did that a purpose. Man. You didn't know she was.

(01:49:22):
He saw saw so he goes. We say it was
a surprise to us. Cassie. I say, say, you got
to be on schedule to eat that ass Monday before seven.
You know it's crazy. And then I say you don't

(01:49:45):
eat cassies. He calls you, hey, whisper talking. Can you
talk to you know right I no niggers right now?
You repeat that story? Ship man, this is your point yourself,
you know Edie walking up? Did you say security or

(01:50:06):
did he say I don't want this thing about me.
I got no part in this stuff. Perfect plan. If
he would have been here today that that's just his staff.
He a porter lass on our other old ship old
show seriously, story, Puffy, listen, okay, you listen to you

(01:50:33):
play with because this this is girl. I'm not I'm
saying I said. My nigger asked right now his name
is Eddie, to ask either. But I just said, you
like like Eddie, just come say hi. You don't fun.
I don't tell you. I don't like the way this
guy fucking right. I don't know why I don't tell you.

(01:50:53):
He was fine? All right, tell me what happened? You
said you asked you to ask right now? I did
say that. I didn't mean it like that. He didn't
mean it like that. She hid. Yeah, no, now she's there.
She's right, that's ship. But that's my home girl. But

(01:51:14):
that's ship. But look no, no, but buff as my
wife right there. So Puff, you know I'm unembarrassable. I
don't know if you ever noticed that me sent for
the ugly niggas on Foster. So he goes to my wife,
come ahead, and then she comes over here goes, oh, ship,

(01:51:39):
that's okay. This episode should be out maybe by the
time it is. Oh yeah, I guess it would be
mil my pink pongk baby, you know something? All right? Now?
All right, Well we're talking about it. Okay, we're having fun.
We hear a salute black accelet and got to my

(01:52:05):
brother got you it was black excellence. You know, we
sat sat here and you are you making it? Don't smoke?
And he was born in Jamaica. Is one of you
live in every hood s? One d never smoked. Now,
I didn't say never. I don't say that I don't smoke.

(01:52:25):
I just don't get about to have it for breakfast.
That's a difference. We understand. I'm a big if I'm
a vacation with my wife on whatever. Yeah, you know,
because almost everybody in my family, for my uncles, they
everybody in my whole band that you're making everybody in
my whole basketball Do you mean that just goes with

(01:52:47):
my family home? Not really, it's a whole smoke Ican jamaking,
just like a lot of Jamaicans and not dreadlocks. Absolutely

(01:53:08):
know what I'm saying. Listen, but I've got nothing because
all my hands this. When I hang out with my
white friends, we drink yeager for old times sake. They
don't drink ye They'll tell you, these nig rich niggers,
why are we doing game? Then and then they hit
the Yeago with me and they be like, were you
know in high school? Afterwards? Yeah? So when I hang

(01:53:30):
out with Mike Rosster Mom, Yeah, Roster Mom, But you're
going Chellis once hit one one pool. You're Chellis, no
not touched childis. Your Pats wasn't impeccable. But I don't know,
I don't know one You gotta have it from a smoke.

(01:53:51):
Ain't smoking five years on one pool, one pou respect,
No Christma and Chris that Friday freaking seedy. Now now
nobody else Rutter. Okay, all right, it's okay, I'm all right.
So what is it? You don't nobody You're not supposed
to smoke anything. That's somebody else. Rutter. You know these

(01:54:15):
young niggas eating that? Yeah, you know, whole bag of ship.
You're good for the roost and culture. You was just
talking about what you might putting the motherfucker. But I
don't even think about that ship to dirty? What why

(01:54:42):
shagging was smoking? It's too o'clock, did day? Um? You
know I love what we're doing. It's too good ship,
all right, playing around like be too good, learning to
be good to be bullshit smoke Regie Miller the most

(01:55:03):
that boris is my friend. He brings Reggie Millers sometimes
understand why he brings it. I'll be like, yo, you're
my friend, like we're friends. It's okay. I got to connect.
Go see jose who knows and moms them niggas. That
got it And it's from Thostic boom man, Yo, you

(01:55:30):
know what again? Like I said, and drink, Let's just
say dream Champs is the only place you're gonna have
shaggy and give you the kids after on the same table.
And it makes a lot of sense. And it makes
sense because you celebrate our culture here. You know thing
about it. For people have to understanding like we we
we as we as as black people have more incomming

(01:55:55):
than than It doesn't matter about your your your culture
background out there's a luck we have income on black people.
You know what it is? This trouble the month where
you are watch you you know on what your make
I wear this. Once you sit here and have the conversation,
it all comes out. That's why we drink. We're on

(01:56:17):
the same plane, right, We're gonna celebrate and frenchman, you're
gonna get some shaggy ass out here. Shaggy, shaggy fans
gonna be like, gonna get some shaggy right and and
when when I'm getting that shaggy ass, not on duty, Philly,

(01:56:39):
we say, not on duty. Make sure y'all that a
little welcome to Gilduff right now, open felthil shout right,
shout out, Philly, shout to make your shaggy keep still

(01:57:00):
respect Kingston. You know, typically artists, like I said, my
favorite place, pick up the rooster, just do it. You
know what I'm saying. I know that's what I'm telling
that real Jamaican ship. You know what I'm saying, pick
up to the yard mind and we have Listen, this
is what we do over here. We celebrate our legends.
We want to continue to support people who put it
in that work and it's out here having fun, smiling,

(01:57:23):
you know what I'm saying. We live a great life
and we just want to continue to support people who
who's been doing it for years. A lot of people
always ask me, where's the new artists. And we're gonna
get to the new artists and we're gonna do it.
But right now, our ship is about people who's been
in the game, who's been a part of the game.
We want to we want to respect them because everybody
else they got these other outlets and it's wonderful for them.

(01:57:45):
And we don't mind who you see. We want to
keep supporting the other podcasts that's out there, like tax
Stone and you know, rap Radar and Call Back Jack
and I want that scene and uh name this podcast
later Joe Biden's and Rory he broke to stop. Stop
we don't when we chest don't be looking at our numbers.

(01:58:05):
Stop respected our numbers, my friend. We like you now,
like that me and you got numbers beef. It's got
nothing to do with your buttons, is not. He got
number beef right now. I like, I like when he came.
He came, he to CBS. That's putting these numbers together. Fox,
CBS gonna get from making up numbers. What we're gonna

(01:58:28):
get probably gonna get more money if the numbers it's
fitted today. That's not sliming. We don't. But that's how
you know that he had a little bit of hating
his blood. I respect it, though. I respected when you're
smashing the nigger and he's standing across from you. We

(01:58:50):
were actually yeah, I'm so mad that you was sit
this chair, but he was dead. He was dead. I
looked at him seeing you know, it's hating. Its little
hate some queens. A white guy like him, irish, but
he was mad at don't know, salty man, sualty. But

(01:59:12):
you know why we're different people. We enjoy the hate.
You have to embrace it. You got embraced to hate them.
We don't listen to me. Listen but only people make
the numbers up his dogship. It's still real because some

(01:59:34):
page for us to be doing this for that amount
of years and still be here and and still making papers,
still being a force to be reckoned with. You know,
I've been counted out so many times in this game.
I mean, and they counted us all out right, and
you're still here all out so you know what I mean.
I'm blessed man. We're still here. Let's celebrate it. You

(02:00:00):
want to come back celebrating right now to say anytime
you know it don't matter, come back, come funk with us.
We're gonna get you drunk over this time. We want
to want to keep you on point. The way you look.
I'm bringing that case next time. So cases a right here.
You need to get the time like the fire first,

(02:00:23):
trust me like that, like that, like that ship, ship
right here whenever, Yeah, the gus you know, damn point.
That's that's how the interview changed. Yeah, but y'all, y'all
rest over there open. I was your close out with
another shot. I mean look, yeah, I mean I know what.

(02:00:45):
It was a mad idea, but ship, that's right, that's right.
We gotta celebrate. When you say we gotta celebrate, celebrates us,
you celebrate. We got something. Ain't gonna mid sent this.
I was like, I don't know what you don't now,
but I never think in a million years I will
be drinking Sulley songs with sweet songs with shock. There

(02:01:16):
you go much it's too much? Technically yeah, you're supposed
to go. You can run like dray fucking y'all get
the same ship. I don't think I'm the only one
that's gonna have you too much? Can your ship? You're
going around? Don't go round? Ship's drive by right now?

(02:01:37):
Drink just short shapect from shot, Hold up, bold up.
Remember I getting shop fire, Sup. It gets better the

(02:02:10):
second time. Boys, you have to do it against this
ship builds complet in your legs. Supposed to be one
stopping ship that you call you you got a cool

(02:02:33):
That ship is gone, Yeah, it's gone. No, it's okay.
This is the herth. I gotta say that a whole,
this ship from sucking out, from sucking away, to close
it out. Yo, hold on, we're gonna do a picture
in the drop. Hold on, whose up? Yo, schaf saying

(02:02:55):
forgot you to the old things. Second, I want to
thank you got for being a part of drink Champs.
We got drunk drinking, sewing sauce and alcohol. Stand I
don't drink, man. Next hit is strong enough in eighties six.

(02:03:19):
It takes a while to wear off. That ship burned.
It's just for mental little planet. Thank you, right, No, no,

(02:03:49):
no parties. I was singlway shaggy, he suggested, is secon
shot shots? Fine? Fine, I wasn't going to let me
tell you something. Man, I admit that's a bad idea.
Want to do it again, one more fast? The worst

(02:04:12):
idea there is the best way to go. Three is
look you never ever listens? Want to go through over
yere man fifty deer fourf four? I was did like
NAI's a trump fact? How was yours puffing in no puff,
did Na don't know a lottly did full pretty good

(02:04:35):
full fifty. Don't even drink that much. Du you know,
drink three three now we have to do three, just
fifty extra muzzles just so that ship up. Let's be
sweet cattle, put me present. Let's do it. Your bo
only took one drinking, says eighty six. How was it
going with that stricken little trumps up? When he's up trumping?

(02:05:02):
I went up. We gotta take a shot of time,
moved to Jamaica. Shot your mother's small shots, y'all fucking
I'm gonna build a wall. Y'all ain't coming to Jamaica.
I'm gonna be a fucking warf for y'all. Motherfucker's y'all
ain't coming on the wall talking times. You are trying

(02:05:26):
to stop us to come to the States. But that
ship be a woman for your motherfucker's trump. When the ship, yeah, yeah,
that's it. That's like, that's like eating video, like alcohol
a high like you don't don't. This is a fire

(02:05:48):
I don't want anybody so fireball Dad, you went shaggy man,
I was I was heavy it because he saw that
I was living the last time. It's even in the
ship out using the nest and I can't do this
is gonna be. You don't know how legendary this this
episode is. It's pretty I apologize, my brother. I apologize

(02:06:10):
if there was ever a way, if there ever was
a face to go with the word. But fuddle Gilly
has this ship roster before we're gonna watch this ship.
They don't understand. Yeah, I don't think. I don't. I

(02:06:31):
don't think the fans gonna appreciate. And let's they taste
this motherfucker. They don't think they think me bullshit, nasty
as fuck. Come on, take off time with the fucking freak.
He drinking ship like it's like two years old, this
ship though. You know he loves this ship though first
of all, you're too young to be drinking. Yeah, he's

(02:06:52):
never gonna give out. And I put some hospital. You know,
I drink bottles and this ship that's not something the right.
I drink a whole box, trying to set me the
three good you're good, three three you goodad good, discuss
me three. I ain't come on like you ain't never
had to book at he saw our ways that one

(02:07:15):
on the show. I don't listen, you don't. We gotta jewel.
I can't blame you, y'all. This ship that's like ship little,
I'm fucked up. I don't drink like that. O'Tay, I
think heroin. I need you. This ship's like he took it.

(02:07:41):
He took it, he real niggas. Niggas ship. Come on,
let's celebrate it like you got. Let's go. You do that,
I want to say, I already did on my I
have big ball. Man. I am need some water and

(02:08:03):
I ain't got the water. Sounds kidding right now? Can
we give a I don't think that to no more
shut type of man. Yeah, here's some ways that j

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