Kevin Bieksa talks The Gr8 Chase, 4 Nations takeaways

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
Energy Line with Nate and JSB is a collaboration of
the NHL and I Heeart podcasts. We're recording this late
afternoon on Monday, and we've got Kevin b Xa, former

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teammate of Nate thirteen years in the NHL, and of
course sportsnet analysts on Hockey Night in Canada, will be
joining us shortly. And Nate gotta say, last time we spoke,
we were talking before Canada USA.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's everything Buntz together.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
All I know is that Canada won the Four Nations
three to two overtime. Mcjesus written into history forever, one
of the great games.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
How nervous were you in overten?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I was extremely nervous. I was nervous all game. When
I was watching it, I had a bunch of so
for people that don't no, I'm a big jiu jitsu
guy and I've been doing it for a couple of years.
So I had all of my all my jiu jitsu class,
all my buddies that I do jiu jitsu with, they
all came over to my house and they're so into
it now. After watching obviously the four nations, so had

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I had them all over to the house and we
were watching the game, and they were into it. I
was into it, and of course Connor McDavid ends it.
Congratulations to you and to Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, thank you. I did a lot of work for
that game.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Welcome, You're welcome. I mean I was. I was so nervous,
but I think the overall game everything, it was everything
to be expected and more. I mean the way that
these players showed up the final game, the final game,
obviously they came to just play hockey and they were
trying to win the game, both teams. And then Connor McDavid,
of course, I mean, I think I would have been
happier to see Sidney Crosby score it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, because let's go back. You said to Jackie.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Redman when she came on, you had been fine. Did
you say three to two? I said three two US
And I think I said, Matthew could chuck just the
game winner?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, And I think she might have said Crosby. But
you also said if Crosby scores an overtime, you wouldn't
you wouldn't be mad. McDavid's almost like Crosby.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh, I'm not mad about it. I mean, at the
end of the day, I'm a hockey fan and it's
good for hockey. And the fact that Connor McDavid scores
the quote unquote golden goal for the Four Nations is
very fitting. He's Connor McDavid. He's the best player in
the world. And the fact that he scores that game
winning goal, it's kind of like, I mean everything this
whole tournament was like it was scripted. It's actually insane
if you think about it. Like Nate McKinnon, you know,

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he leads the team in goals, he leads the tournament
in goals, he gets the MVP. Sidney Crosby does his thing.
You have all these different storylines with the US, and yeah,
none of.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
The Leafs got injured.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Just like, yeah, all of these scripts that happened in
this tournament was a home run. I mean it was
it was special and I know we talked about it,
We've talked about it over and over. But being a
fan again, like it felt good, you know, like I
looked so good and it didn't feel so good. Yeah,

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I think that's what they cared about.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Something Again, it was like, wow, I have a heart,
like there's something inside of me that like wants something
to happen. Like it was just because sometimes you know,
I will like sometimes you'll be watching a game and
you just don't maybe have a horse in the fight.
But like everyone had a horse in the fight because
they're I mean, if you're a Canadian, American or both
or whatever, like you had a side you were rooting for.

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That's not always the case, especially in media, we're kind
of just cheering for. Like I mean again, we are
media still, but like, let's be honest, it feels different
when it comes to international Canada. I was I was
happy for them as happy for my family and friends
because they've been.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
They were fired up, they were fired up.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And the thing that's impressive too is these guys are
playing through injury and some of these guys are not
even going to be not even playing for the NHL
teams now because of this tournament.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Right, that's the biggest That was the biggest fear of
everyone ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So Matthew Kachuck, what's the deal with him? What's his injury?
What's going on? What are you hearing? What are you seeing?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think I think he's going to be back at
some point. We just don't know when. Listen. I know
this is tough for the owners gms to deal with
this when they get their star players to come back
and are not healthy. But I think the risk is
worth the reward now. I mean, I think we would
all agree with that. I think all the players would
agree with that. And if you ask every single one
of those players again if they would do it, they
would say, yes, the chance to win that four nations,

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if they would sacrifice a little bit of the season,
I think every single player would say yes.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, the players would say that, but the owners and
the and the teams aren't going to say that. That's
their money, that's theirs, are their assets.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's all about the players. It's all about the player.
If the players didn't do that, what they think the players.
If the players didn't do what they did, we wouldn't
have that product. I think it's on them, the players.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
On the column A little column B.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yes, it's definitely helped those teams now because there's people
that are like, ooh oh, I like hockey. Like this
woman I posted her on Instagram. She's just like, I
love this hockey thing. I've never seen it before. I
don't know how what it is. I don't know how
it's placed. She's great and we're getting people like that
and that is so good, Like yeah, I had people
betting me on that game that have never watched a
hockey game before, and it was just great to be

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like they were like, wait, what is this like? And
then overtime rules everyone was asking and I was.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
In my personally and jiu jitsu professor was at my house.
He's Brazilian, zero about hockey, and he was like fully invested,
like couldn't talk to him like it was.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
It was it was a World Cup final. He's watching
like theymar basically or something. At this point.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I was.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I work at SMY, which is a network here in
New York, and I was all on air during overtime,
which I said I should deserve an Emmy four because
I was like, of all the days, I don't know
why I decided I said yes to filling in, but
I was doing an interview with like our NBA analy
on the Knicks game while like our stage manager had
the TV onto overtime and I'm trying I'm just looking

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into the camera, like asking our analysts about the next game,
and then I'm just like you can see my eyes
just like I'm a dog trying to like not look
at a treat, like looking at overtime. And I was
just so nervous because like I could tell just I
knew like red and blue, and I was like wherever
the puck is near, because you could tell Bennington or
hell a book And I was just like watching it

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like that.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And then when McDavid scored, I almost broke the entire
mic system. I jumped up and down, my mic fell
off of me. It was in a commercial break and
they were like, Julie, when we come back on air,
you better be professional. I was like, yeah, obviously, and
I gave the most subdued note at the end, like
and also in the Four Nations Face Off Championship, Canada
won three to two in overtime over the United States.

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Connor McDavid had the game winner from all of us
here and I didn't sound like that, but I was
like I did it, like I was so doubt because
they were all like, Julie, don't be so Canadian on air.
I'm like, I'm not gonna be like, yeah, let's go
kid Ita over fuck you like no, I may come on.
It's like watch, I'm gonna give a good performance.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Well, speaking of good performances, there's one guy in the
league who has been lighting it up. He is, of course,
the great Alexander Ovechkin, and he is on the great
chase for breaking Wayne Gretzky's record, and we're gonna get you.
And he had a hat trick this past weekend and

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let's hear it.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Let's hear it now two forty.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
To go on a third period Tenna Park that comes
to all duch ten he says, does hate Dennits, hate Dennits.
It's a hot truck for all Dutchtander Ty Efferson stick pro,
come of center points, shot of temps and all Dutch
Dan with a hat trick.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's eight eighty.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Two tenn the Capital's late It's shoutsolutely incredible, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
That was John Walton from Capitol's radio network on the
call of the Alexander Vegkins hat trick on Sunday. And
he reaches eight hundred and eighty two goals, just thirteen
away from breaking Wayne Gretzky's NHL all time goals record.
Absolutely banana sandwich and as we've said, like no one's
I personally didn't think he was ever going to get

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this closed, especially watching him in the playoffs last year
or it looked like he needed a wheelchair on the ice,
and then now he's just been like exploded, done incredible, Nate.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is he going to do it this year?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yes, I'm sticking to my guns. I said at the
end of the year he was going to do it.
He is superhuman. You said that he's been on a
heater this this year, Obi has been on a heater.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay, yeah, twenty years, be a heater for three decades.
Three decades, he's been on a heater. That's all he
does is score goals. I mean it's so special. I mean,
records are meant to be broken.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
And now that he's this close and we get to
like watch it down the stretch, now I think it's
it's amazing. And the way that he's doing it, like
he's still scoring from his spot, he's still scoring from
over there, which I for myself have penally killed against
some numerous times. And there's been so many times where

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I've seen him there and I'm there, I'm okay, I
got my stick, there, I got my stick there. Okay,
I'm in the passing. I'm in the passing. Okay, I'm
just going to go over here just for a second.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm just gonna go over here, just going to go
over here and.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Watch Oshi for a second and just see. And then
all of a sudden, it's bing bing bang bong, and
then it's red light behind me, you know, and you're like, again,
this guy again. It just keeps doing it, and then
he just it's so impressive. I mean, he's he hasn't
missed that much time, that must injury time. He scores
goals in different ways and then he still scores goals

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in his normal way. He does that everyone is used
to watching. So I could talk about over all day
because I think he deserves it, and you know, just
to be able to win Witness, this is going to
be something pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I mean, on top of everything we've already seen
this year, that would be the icing on the cake.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
But okay, if you know, I'm just going to go
over here for a second. I absolutely love that.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
But him scoring from his office, everyone knows, you know,
he's got that great shot we talked about. He's scoring
goals from the same spot. So then if you are
not another team, are you not? Just like, Okay, we
got to cut off the supply to him there, but
we got to just that. We know what his we
know what he's going to do, So then how come
he can still do it regardless of everyone knowing it?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, I think too, because he's I mean, people forget like, oh,
he's not a small person. You know, he's a he's
he's a big boy, big boy, he's a tank, and
he's not afraid to throw his body around. He's not
a guy that you're going to like push around out there.
So he's still going to create space for himself. He's
still going to get to the net, he's still going
to find those spots because he's out in that. He's
out like Alexander Vetchkins. So I don't know if there's

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a way. You know, those those type of players Crosby, David's, McKinnon's, Ovechkins,
those guys you don't really stop, you know, those guys
are They're going to get their looks no matter what.
It's just a matter if you can minimize the looks.
You know, you don't give him as many looks. And
that was always the case playing against OV, it was like, Okay,
we know he's going to get his chances. We know
he's got probably going to get at least five or

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six shots tonight. Let's just hope that those shots are
from the outside, or they're not in the power play,
or they're not Grade eight chances. And those are always
the things when I played against them, especially my time
in Tampa when we played against them in playoff series,
was making sure that OV was not getting those inside
looks on the power play, whether it was two on
one rushes, whatever it was, you just didn't want to

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give them those looks. You wanted to minimize it where
it was very hard for him, but to his credit,
I mean, Ovi is he's right there and he's about
to be the greatest goalscorer who ever lived.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
The way you say it like that, it's just like,
we're so lucky to be able to watch this. So
now the great chases on. We get to down the stretch,
watch and see every night every Capitol's game, see if
you get closer and closer and closer. And we also
get to watch and see what teams do ahead of
the NHL trade deadline, which is March seventh, and there

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are a lot of teams on the cusp right now
of whether they're deciding if they're going to be buying
or selling in these next however many days, February is
always a weird.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
One for me, you know, the twenty eight, twenty ninth, whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I know, it's not a leapier here's here, but whatever,
how many ever days there are left until the trade deadline?
Let's just go with twelve. Who do you think is
going to be selling who right now? Like who's on
the cusp?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Who's on the cusp? Meant you got to look at
the teams that are on the bubble that are you know,
fighting for wildcard spots. You know, I think that and
this is you know, we talk about this. You know,
I think the Pittsburgh Penguins are probably sellers. And that's
the most intriguing I think for everybody because of Sidney
Crosby as a fan and as a player that used
to play against him and then seeing his level of

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play in the Four Nations and seeing how he responded
to that and hasn't played in the playoffs for a
couple of years. Now, is there a world where sid
maybe says to Kyle Dubis. Listen, I'm okay getting traded
this year or maybe it's next year, you know, but
we're talking about this year. Let's hope it's this year.
Maybe there's a world where he says, I want to

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go play with Nate. Look what just happened with them
at Four Nations. They were black and I want to
go play with Nate. And you know, whatever Sid wants
Kyle Dubis is going to do. So that one, I mean,
I don't know if that's going to unfold or not,
but it's been rumblings, it's been talked about, and that's
the one to me, and the one team that I

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think is going to be big sellers because they're at
a crossroads right now with the Pittsburgh Penguins and you know,
what are they going to do? And then there's other
teams as well. I mean, you know very well, your
your neighbor and where you live. The New York Rangers,
you know, are they going to sell? Are they going
to keep kind of towing the line? Right? So there's
there's so much parody right now and so many, so
many teams that are kind of in between. But then

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you have the really good teams you know, it'd be
like like Florida Panthers. Now you have Matthew mccachuck, who's out.
You know, I know I'm doing speculating. There's a lot
of storylines, but you know.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's it is interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Like it's like if you're out of a say you're
like kind of close to a second wild card spot.
It's you still like even if you don't make a
trade and you're not in a position playoff position by
March seventh, doesn't mean you're not going to maybe make
the playoffs. That's like such a it's such an interesting conundrum.
But like I think you probably have to look at
projections and potential and like what you have and whether

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or not you want to try to salvage what you've got.
If you're going to do it, you got to have
to go all in. It seems to be able to
like I don't know, you can't half asset, it seems,
but then also you can't you can't put all your
chips in. I think we're looking at I know the leafs.
The leafs are feeling like this has got to be
their best chance so far in the last with the

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guys that got how they're not injured, coming back from
four nations and they're they're doing well. I'd say that
I think that they would be looking for the obviously
are looking for a centerman, but like I could see
them going in big for someone.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean I can see the Leafs for sure
being buyers. I mean, this is if there's any year
that and you believe that as well. I think if
there's any year that the Leaves have a really good chance,
this is it. I mean I think this is the
most complete the Leafs have been in a while. And yeah,
if anything for the Leaves, I think, yeah, they need
to add a center or maybe more depth on D.
It's just basically just adding more depth for the lineup.
I mean they're already pretty good as is, and I

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think their goaltending has shown that they've been pretty solid
as well. So I don't know, we'll see it go Leafs.
I mean, can they go Leafs?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Can they?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right, you'd never say that in your entire life.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I would never say that I was time playing for
the Abs. I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yes, the King of Montreal, as we all remember from
last episode, Nate being stopped by every fanboy on the
concourse it's really impressed to be honest, thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
It was nice some motographs I did. It felt good.
It felt good to be liked and wanted.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Again, especially in Montreal. That place hates everybody but their own.
So I mean, Scott, feel good.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They boo.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I remember a time when Montreal would be the Canadian
at them jokes.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Haha.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That was a nineteen ninety five referendum joke. If you're
in Canada then okay. So we are very lucky. There's
so many things we could talk about because it's an
exciting time, but we're really lucky today to have Kevin
b Xa join us on the program, who is a
former teammate of Nate on the Anaheim Ducks and also

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was of course a ten year VET with the Vancouver
Canucks and is an award winning sports analyst on Hockey
Night in Canada sports Net. He is a gem of
a gem and we cannot wait to have this conversation
and let you guys listen to it now. Now, we're

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very feel to be able to welcome on someone that
Nate and I both know we well in very different ways.
But he played thirteen years in the NHL Den with
the Canucks three with the Anaheim Ducks and of course
is a analyst extraordinaire with Sportsnet.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Hockey Night in Canada. He even won an award for it.
That's how good he is.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
That is another then, Kevin Biexa aka Juice, thank you
so much for joining us here on the Energy Line.
Heard that you are champion of the La Strong Tournament.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yes, I am, and I always love listening to the
intro when you come on a podcasts and you see
you see if the people that are conducting and really
like you, and that was a great intro. I appreciate it.
We go way back, like you said, tom Or and
I teammates and you and I had some great interviews
over my three year career with the Ducks. Seb of

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them still live on viral that I had to apologize
to you after.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh oh, we're going to get and we're going to
get to some of those in a second. Don't yeah, yeah,
don't think championship.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I think, yeah, hear, let's hear about it.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Unfortunately, our first game against you guys was the hardest
and it's funny. I've never played in a charity game.
The team I was on, all they talked about was
winning from the moment I walked into the dressing room,
and honestly, the coaches too, Vince on and Kobe Smolders
like from day one, Like as soon as they walked in,
it was like, we're gonna win. Yeah, hey, Vince, good

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to see you again too. You know, He's like, no,
but but Juice, we're gonna win this. I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Vince is strive. And then you got you know, me
and Alex Adler sitting in the corner and we're pretty chill, right,
We're just kind of happy to be there looking around.
But we go out there, we get our lines in order,
we get our strategy in order, and basically it was
we had, you know, some pretty good defenseman. We were

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just going to defend and we're gonna let our forwards
go off to the races. And that's how we took
care of you guys. But you guys were the team
we were worried about because we looked at your lineup
and your roster and we're like, there's some firepower up front,
especially but our goalie was unbelieve I don't know what
you thought of our goalie. He was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
He was so good. It was right before we had
a couple of chances and I think Jared Stole had
two ten bell chances that he couldn't score on. And yeah,
you guys had good D, I mean defense wins and
we couldn't get by your D. We were favored to win.
We had a great lineup, we had a fun lineup,
but it totally backfired and we got smoked. Just be's

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five nothing.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know what was funny about our goalie scored. Nobody
scored on us. The whole gait Julie and our goalie.
When I walked in kind of just met him, Billy,
he was cut. Like I walk in, He's got no
shirt on, he's got a shaved head. He's probably around
my age or even maybe a bit older. And this
guy's chiseled. And I'm like, I've never seen a chisel
goalie that was good. Right, you see them in men's

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leg like these guys that take care of themselves, but
they're absolutely terrible in that. Like the best goalies I
played with were had milk bag and bodies, right, and
this guy was chiseled, and I'm like, oh, this guy
not gonna be very good. I'm sure enough, he gets
out there and he's unbelievable. So he kind of wanted
for us. We gave the game pu app them. He

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was really good.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah. Our coaches, I guess, were a little bit different.
We had Will Ferrell and Snoop Dogg, and when they
came in, it was a little bit it was more
of like a pump the boys up, yeah and girls,
but more of like a comedy set to a little bit.
The one thing that, I mean, we were all dying
laughing with the stuff they were saying. But the one
thing Snoop said, He's like, yeah, you know, if you
guys want to take a break, the universal, the universal

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things just go like this.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh my god. So I was listening to the podcast
Nate is making it smoking.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah. I mean I think you can kind of guess
who it is dog right, So yeah, it was. It
was a lot of fun though, I mean, what a
great event. I mean, we had we had Bieber on
our team too. He was our captain.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Was that like super crazy to just look down the
bench and sea like Justin Bieber?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean not not just him, but even like
Steve Correll too.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
So I mean he's just as big, I think. I mean,
so yeah, it was awesome to just see them in
their their hockey element, you know, to be able to
you know, just talk to them about hockey or whatever.
But I mean, the Beabs, you can tell the kid
loves the game for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's why I thought my team's attitude was so weird,
because you have all these celebrities and everybody showed up
and there's so many people around to talk to, and
all our team cared about was winning. Like Beabs is
going around hugging guys in between draws, like being buddy buddy,
and then our bench, on our bench, everyone's like, look
at Bebes, let's stick it to him. Let's stick it

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till you're trying to make buddies with everyone. There's no
friends out here.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Work for you guys, just iyeah.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I guess like I was joking around after Kelly Rudy,
who's kind of the one who put me in touch
with Luke. He couldn't come, but he set it up,
but he was asking how to go, and I'm telling him,
and you know, Ron McClamrock group tax and then I
go and we won too. We're the champions, Kelly goes
pretty elevant, CUV. Not not the reason you're there, Kelly,

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good point. It's hilariousy. You guys know, Kelly pretty irrelevant cuv.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh my god, I love that. So wait, did you
guys fight at all?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
They fought Army, our guy, Army.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I know, I saw he was giving him the fake.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
The only reason the reason I went in is because
Army went in third man and I just pulled him
out of there. And next thing you know, we're quote
unquote fighting. But no, Juice and I never did, I mean,
he was Do you.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Tell him, Nate that you were gonna that you had
planned in our group texts?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:38):
We we in.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Our group text that you were going to fight him.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, I mean we talked about it. We talked about
those possibility, but we had to make sure that. I mean,
Juice is a maniac and thought that we were like,
He's like, well, I don't want to play fight, and
I'm like, it's like, well, we never fought when we
played against each other, so I'm like, no, I'm not
doing this, Juice.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I just remember the Big Rig. I lined up against
the Big Rig after playing with him, and you and
then i'm and he went to Edmonton and you think
you were gone.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
By that name?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
And I lined up and friend was in the stands
and she was not sitting beside Katie, who's my wife
and Pat Maroon's wife, but they were like close to
each other. They're friends, right, And he lines up with
me on the face off and he goes, hey, do
you want to do you want to fight? And I
look at him and I go and he goes, do
you want to fight? I go yeah, and he goes, well, no,
you don't have to, juice, but you know, I just

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saw it like maybe and I go, big rig I go,
if you're asking me to fight? The answer is yes,
but like this is this is a real fight though,
Like we're not We're not going to just grapple, like
I'm going to try to knock your head off. And
he's like, ok okay, and I go you sure and
he goes yeah, and I go, okay, Well we're squaring
off then, because I didn't want him.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
To bear hug me around with you yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
So I line up off the line a little bit.
You can look this up too. I line up off
the line because he says we're fighting he's out there
with McDavid. Puck drops, McDavid snaps it back. He goes
to the slot. Now I have no stick in my hand,
and I'm chasing after him like Fred Flinstone. I push
him in the slot. He actually gets a shot on that.
I have no stick, like tried me on the d

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Coach is like, what the hell are you doing? I'm like,
I thought we're fighting. So anyways, finally he goes over,
let's go, let's fight. So we fight and I actually
throw my glove at him right at the start, like
you idiot. It just made me look bad. And then
the box he's like, oh it was fun. Go yeah,
it was fun, but you kind of like seward me
at that. So that's why when I said to you
tom A, like I want to know what the terms
are there when you kind of requested or closed.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think in my head I was thinking like you
were going to do a Superman punch kind of like
fake hit me. I fall down, get back up, and
then who knows, I don't know how choreographed. I was
trying to choreograph w W. Yeah, and I was trying
to make I was trying to make juice look good.
With a super bad punch, you know. So that's all right.
I mean, you guys end up winning, so that's all
it matters.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It looks so.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Good, like by the way he watched one or two fights,
like but like you're you got you having a fight,
pe cabn't fight. That's good. I think the fans, it's
funny how we're talking about fighting is good and it's
happening in charity games now because of that Canady you
last game, right, like all of a sudden, playing is
fun and because people want to see the passion. They
want to see like two guys that care so much

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that they fight. So anyway, I just.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Know it's great. I think.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I mean we were talking about it last week. There's
a fight there. We didn't talk about this, but there's
a fight in.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The p w HL, which was amazing. I loved seeing them.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Because they have their physicality has been off the hook,
where like there's someone is going to like the cage
is the hard part, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You know, fighting with a cage on is not really
fighting each.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Other in the eyes maybe like through the cage, like you.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Got to take your gloves off then I guess and
get your.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Your man three stooges, three ses.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, okay, so you won small note Juice, your goalie.
I dated him once.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
No, I didn't want to say anything, but I was
waiting for Julie to say something.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You were like, oh, he's so chiseled. Like I was like,
oh my god, I'm dead right now.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Said something because if I found the note after the
FuG I was going to come back on this plot.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And yeah, yeah, no, we played in I played Men's
League two in LA and then he asked me out
on a date. A blown up a spot. Right now,
give him.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Credits, I'd say, I said, he asked me out.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I don't blame you. So you know how chiseled he is.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yes, yes, I do. I do have we both have
that information. All right, Okay, we'll move on right now. Kevin,
you mentioned that we had had some interviews back in
the day with the Anna Had Ducks, so we were
all on the team at the same time. I like
this as like we're teammates. I was, of course not
on the team. I was just covering the team. But
I had some interesting interviews. One time you razzed me

(26:47):
on New Year's Day, which was very uncalled for because
of course we may have had a couple of wobbly
pops the night before and had I asked you three
questions instead of two and you said, oh wow, You're
like this is big for you asking a third question
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I just remember being like, totally body beaked.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
It doesn't sound like me.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
There's like people posted I haven't they I believe.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I believe, I just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I felt like so much media and Vancouver when I
was there, because it was a Canadian mark, and then
when I came to Anaheim, I didn't do that much
like as I'm close. So when I did like you're
getting the best of me, like I was, I was
gonna throw something back you. I was going to have fun,
you know, like you know Tomorro when you're doing an
Acadian said, you're doing a ton of media and you
just kind of get dull down you start giving the

(27:34):
same answers. Well, there wasn't that case at Anaheim. So
every time Julie we were in Vancouver at this point,
I was ready for you.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I was, let's say I had like two brain cells
working On New Year's Day, I was like, oh my gosh,
I didn't even know what to say back.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I just went and I left.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, but we have another one that has its own
Reddit thread, and we're going to play it right now.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Kevin, Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Ken.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Kevin, the Flames cap on a power play to get
back into this game. How did they control large stretches
of this second period?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Well, I don't know if I agree with that, but.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Obviously they had a little bit more.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
I think at times maybe weren't as clean in our
own zone and we weren't exiting as well.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
So and we get back to doing that on the
third and we should be fine.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
It's do or die for the Flames in this third period,
knowing that you guys still have a part of this
power play left to start, how much would it extinguish
their host being able to capitalize on it.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Well, it would be huge, obviously.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
To get a little bit momentum though, would be the
first thing we'd be looking forward to. Get a goal
would be great, But after that we keep playing the
way we've been playing all series, and play hard and
get pucks in their zone and wear them down.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Loan, we should be fine.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Thanks much. Getting I have a choice, but thanks.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
All time. That's all time, Julie, Like, what was your
what was your feeling after that? Like as you as
he walked away, were you kind of like, uh, well yeah,
the video of.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Me is just going back to you Ken, and I'm like,
because I was in the moment as you were saying
I didn't have a choice, and I was like, I've
never heard any one ever say that before. And that
was my last interview with like Danaheim Tex Space.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I was like, you do you do know when I
was the first answer, soul, I don't remember hearing that
whole interview, so listening to it again, I'm recalling the
first answer. I would never have said that if I
didn't like you, Like, if I didn't like you as
a reporter, I would give you nothing. I would just
like yeah. But because I felt like like you're fun
and like we had a good relationship, that was that

(29:29):
I thought we're like like, I don't think I would
agree with that.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I love that You're like, no, I'm going to say
that's wrong what you just said?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Dan Murphy all the time, who's my really good friend
farhand Logy, Like the reporters that I liked, I thought
it was fun to kind of go back and forth
like that and.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, so you so when you hear that now, like,
so okay, So tell everyone in the audience that's.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Listening, did you not like me or like me?

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Of course? I like he liked I like you.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I just want to know the record. Yeah, per hearing
it now as an analyst, what do you make of
it now? Being on that side, if I was.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
If I got that response from a player, like I
had to sit down with Connor and McDavid at the
Four Nations just before the finals, and you can imagine
he's a pretty serious guy, right, But some of the
more fun interviews I've done at the All Star Games
and on the ice, if I get something that I
bat from a player, I love it. I don't mind
even being the butt of the joke because it shows

(30:28):
their personality, gives something fun, something more than like part
of my interview is get pucks in deep and wear
them down. Like that's the worst kind of interview. I know.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I was really happy when I heard you say that.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, Like, I'm.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Trying to drag things out. I'm trying to make the
players personality to come out on display. So for you
to get that out of me, like means that you
did a good job. I think right to see here
my smart ass comment at the end of it, and
then what like it was totally the whole time. I'm
laughing inside, and.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You were bounced. You were like down the hallway by
the end of that once you said that you.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Left me just by I want to get into Four
Nations and I just kind of want to take what's
your biggest takeaway from that tournament?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
The game is good right now. The game's in a
really good spot. I think it has the right mix,
the right blend right now of speed, skill, toughness, physicality.
And I'm so glad that the rest of the world,
you know, namely a lot of like the US people,
like the US market that wasn't really watching hockey games

(31:30):
before and heard the buzz and kind of tuned in.
I felt like we created a lot of new fans
with the Four Nations in the US and then in Canada,
I just reinforced the kind of hockey that we love.
I just love that it was all on display. I
love that obviously. I love the three fights in nine
seconds in Montreal, you were there. The building was absolutely

(31:50):
I've never heard of building the building actually felt like
it was shaking. Yeah, And for me, like I've been
retired now for seven years, I think that was like
the first time since I've been retired. I've been to
a lot of hockey games since I've been retired covering them,
and that was the first time where I got goosebumps
watching and feeling like, oh my god, like this is
what it felt like when I played. I felt like

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I was playing still and I was just sitting up
in the suite watching, So that was electric. And then
McDavid scores right after in a beautiful goal. Then the
Americans fight back. Brady kud Chuck's an absolutely muting out
their warrior, like just playing so hard, the speed is unbelievable,
the skill. I just think, like from start to finish,
blown away by that tournament. It's done so much good

(32:33):
for our game.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Because I was talking to Keith the Endo about this
yesterday and I said the same thing. I said, for
the first time since since I've retired, watching those games,
I felt like a fan again. You know. I was
on the edge of my seat. I was getting goosebumps,
you know. And I think a lot of the credit
has to go to all those players, all the guys
on all those teams because the way they the level

(32:54):
they took it to to put our game on notice
and obviously, and I think put all the other sports
on blasts too, because I know, you guys seeing what
PK Suban said and how he talked about the passion
and the care that hockey players have, and when I
talked to him about it yesterday too and I talked
about how you know, he he almost validated every single

(33:18):
hockey player I think that has played because of how
much guys care, Guys have gone through, what they put
their bodies through, and when he talked about that, how
much guys care and they're just playing for their country.
You know, they're not they're not getting paid, They're playing
through their country and they'll do whatever it takes. I mean,
there's some guys that I talked to said that they
were blockshot with their teeth. I'm still kind of blown

(33:39):
away by that tournament, and it was. It was amazing
to watch.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
I think that's what separates our sport from the other ones,
is the passion, the you know, it's hard to do
for an eighty two game schedule, probably a lot easier
to get up for a four Nations atturney when you're
playing for your country, but like, maybe just bring up
like the level just a bit and the care a
little bit. The fights is a way. That's why it's
not like I'm a mutant, like I want people just
hurting each other, Like I don't mind, But I just

(34:04):
love the fact that two guys get to a point
where they care and they want to win so bad
that they fight, And I think like the viewer appreciates
that when they tune.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
In for Canadians. Can you explain what this meant for
Team Canada and for Canadians as a whole.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, So I live I live in the US close
to you guys in California for five days of the week,
and then I'm in Canada for two to three days
a week. So I'm I'm pretty like, I'm pretty split.
And if you do the math, I'm probably half the
days in Canada half in the US for the year.
So I get a zephyr.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Taxes awesome.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I just pay tax everywhere. If someone looks at me,
I just pay them tax. Just get taxed. So that's
that's another story. But I feel I feel like I
have a pretty good pulse of the US and the
Canadian side, and I think the whole political landscape definitely
enhanced that tournament between the Canadians and Americans, and particularly

(34:59):
the Trump wanting to you know, acquire Canada, make it
the fifty first date, those comments. He's very open about
those tweets. I think a lot of the Canadians, and
I know a lot of the caids back home, they
feel like, no, like, we're not gonna let that happen.
We're going to fight back. How daregy and I think
the team, the hockey team kind of took on that
responsibility of showing, hey, I know you're just playing a

(35:21):
hockey game against the US, but you're essentially fighting for
Canadian freedom. Even though I'm not a political I hate
when politics comes to the table. I'm like, be political,
believe in what you want, be religious, believe in you
what you want. I don't care at the end of
the day, so don't tell me what you are, right,
Let's just come and come together and play a hockey game.
But the political landscape amplified this thing, and that's why

(35:44):
the three fights were like, wow, like this is more
than just a Canada US four Nations attorney like, this
is two countries. One is kind of like the bigger country.
And it's funny the way it was like Brady's bigger,
Matthew's bigger, you know, and then you got the Canadians Hegel,
Hegel's not this big guy. Sam Bennett is tough but
not a big guy. And you got the little Kiddadian

(36:05):
just throwing bombs against the big American. It was. It
was like a microcosm of society right now. If that's
too deep for you, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's what it was like speaking my language.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Those are the kind of voice notes I leave they
I'm like, hey, here's what I think about what's going on.
But before we move on, I just want one quick
question for you, Juice, Like, I'm so curious, how does
so Obviously working in media, it's always like kind of
keep politics out of everything unless politics inserts itself into it,

(36:36):
which is what we saw.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Like it, you know, it became one, It became part
of the new story.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
What's it like working at Hockey Night in Canada when
something like that happens, Like, how do they tell you
how to talk about it in a way like don't
go here, don't go there or just do they say
just do whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
No, there's there's there's maybe not a lot of instruction
of how to. I think where it's tough because we
always hear from me, from from my bosses. We can't
be tone death, so we can't be tone death to
what's going on around us. But like you said, politics
inserted itself in here. I just feel like historically, like

(37:16):
sports is meant to be inclusive. The reason we all
play sports and we watch sports and we compete, it's
it's inclusive. It brings people together. It's teams against teams, time,
creers against country, cities against cities. That's why I'm always like,
let's keep the religion and politics out of sport. Let's
come together. Boo Austin Matthews because he's a Toronto maple
Leaf playing in the Bell Center, you know, Boo William Nielanderd.

(37:37):
Don't boo Awstome Matthews because he's American and because the
politics behind his country. That's what I kind of didn't
like about the booing. I'm like, boom for you can
boo onm but just boom for a specific different reason.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Be specific like booing.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, but like booing the national anthem. To me, it's like,
like I look at the national anthem, like if you
look at soldiers that put their bodies on the lining
and died for their for your freedom, whether it's your country,
like leave that. So that's for me a little bit
of an untouchable. But boo the heck of them during
the game or whenever he's on the JumboTron. But we're

(38:13):
kind of getting away from I'm not even answering your question.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
No, I just was curious, like if your boss has
said anything, just because not bosses, but like if there's like, hey, guys,
like I like what you.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Said, Like we can't be tone deaf. That's interesting to hear.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, so I like, again, I don't like talking about
politics a lot. But and we didn't really bring it
up on the show. Maybe a few comments here or there,
but if it if it doesn't assert itself, we kind
of usually try to stay keep it on the back
burner kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Right, makes sense, I'll shift shift gears a little bit.
Get away from that. We'll talk about Alexander Ovechkin and
where he's at and getting the hat trick yesterday and
now he is closing in on the record. Did you
think he was going to break the record this year?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
No, no chance, especially with the start he had. He
had such a slow start, and you're just waiting for
a guy at the end of his career to fall
off the mountain, right, always think it's going to be
like this, Like same with Corey Perry. We're like waiting
for this and it's not right. It's kind of like
going like that, and Novchkin is just going it's flatlining.
Like I don't think he's getting better, but he's definitely

(39:14):
not getting worse as far as scoring goals. And it's
pretty impressive. But I didn't I don't think anyone expected
it this year. I think it's super exciting because now
we're going to watch every Washington game for the rest
of the season be like, okay, like how much closer
is he getting? But records are meant to be broken,
so I'm okay with him. He's going to break it eventually,
but it's going to be fun to watch for sure.

(39:36):
But what's interesting, mate, You've played a lot against him,
and on the penalty kill especially, I remember him he's
been in the same spot for twenty years, Like, how's
this guy got almost nine hundred goals. He's been standing
in the same spot. He doesn't go back to the breakout,
he just stands there. He needs one shot, one chance
usually to score in a game, and it's unbelievable, like

(39:57):
the consistency from standing in that one spot.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Do you think he's going to break the record this year?

Speaker 4 (40:01):
What does he need now? Fourteen eighteen thirteen? Yeah, pretty
close and yeah, and he's got like he needs a
goal every other game and he's on pace. You know, Yeah,
he might break it this year, I think.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
So it's funny you say that you talk about his
his shot from and scoring from the same spot, because
I don't know if you if you read it. But
Jonathan Quick came out and said that his shot sometimes
is like a you know, because he'll shoot pucks that
are rolling or that are yeah, and they're always he said,
he'll be like a slider, a change up, and he
said you can't get a read on it because he

(40:34):
just he'll shoot everything and he's so good at it
that you don't know how to read it. So it
is impressive. I mean, the guy scores goals in so
many different ways.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Yeah, when you're trying to teach kids how to score
goals and shoot pucks. You're trying to teach him like
Austin Matthews, like the curl and drag, change the angle,
different releases. But he's a guy like I can't really
teach what he does. You know, like he like you said,
he he's got just to like to see it up close.
It's a weird shot, like it's heavy, but it like
it moves. It's like auckleball. It flutters, it moves. He's

(41:05):
got a big, big curve. It's not like it comes
off nice and flat so goal you can see it.
It's like wobbling and it's going like ninety eight miles
an hour, and it must be he must kind of
know where it's going, like the score that many goals.
It looks a little wild, but I'm sure he has
an idea where it's going.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Marty say Louis, when I play with him, always told
all of us to always shoot a rolling puck, always
on its side, always shoot it, no matter what. And
I always remember that, and I mean Alexander Vschi's probably
the best at it.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm curious, like Juce, have you ever been
on a team where a guy is going for some
kind of record, where not at this level obviously this
is like very next upper echelon, but where like the
rest of the team is kind of just now on
on this rocket ship with him, Like it feels as
though it's like the entire team now is sort of

(41:55):
behind him.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Have you ever been like in and around anything like that?

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Great, great question, because yeah I have. And it's related
to old Vechkin. So the year that Hendrik Sedine won
the art Ross Trophy most points in the league, him
and Olvechkin, Olvshkin was one point ahead of him going
into the last Saturday night game of the season. So
Olveshkin played in an early game. I can't remember where,
but he played early, so I think he had one point.

(42:21):
So now going into our game at night, and our
game didn't mean anything, We're already in the playoffs in Vancouver,
so oh, he was two ahead of Henrick, and so
he knew Henrick needed two to tie. I don't even
know what they would have done for that, and then
three to win the art Ross Trophy. So Vigo calls
us in a few of us and he goes Daniel
Hendrick Burrows, who was the line and he calls in

(42:42):
me and I think Alex Edler and he goes, you, guys,
you're going to play together all night. I don't care
about the game. I don't care about winning. I don't
care about dumping the pocket. I don't care about turnovers.
But we're going to get Hendrick that record. And it
was against Calgary and the most fun game I've ever
played in my entire life. I had two goals in
an assist. I was like all over the place, like

(43:04):
it was just play after play, and if you remember,
like that's when they scored a couple of the highlight
real goals where Hendrick won it to the point passed
to him, touched between his legs that Daniel Daniel goes
between the legs score. So that was the game. Henrickgat
four points and one year at Ross trophy. So we
had like we had a celebration, like we won the cup. Afterwards.
We were all so happy for him.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Wow, that's awesome. That's so cool that you got to experience.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
That suck at Obie. Can't have it all, Obie.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
So getting into well, the trade deadline's coming up, what
trade do you see happening or what trade do you
want to see happen for certain teams?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
What team?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
What trade do I want to see? Probably the same
everyone else wants to see. Siday I was in Colorado.
I'd love to see said the Colorado him and Nate
they played so good together. But I mean, that's Caesar
in the right to decide that. I just look at
the contenders and I look at what is each what
does each team need to add? Not there's a huge
amount of goalie movement, But I still like, look at

(44:06):
Gibbey or Buddy John Gibson and Dostle's, you know, pretty
good goalie now and can maybe carry the workload on
his own. Does Gibby go somewhere and help the team
become or put them over the top. So I look
at that, I look at what's ranting going to do?
You know, like you hear rumblings that he's not going
to sign in Carolina. If he's not going to sign
long term in Carolina, they have to move him now.
You can't pay all that for him, lose Natus and

(44:29):
then he walks at the end of the year. That's
a big one, right because he's kind of been one
that we've always thought he's one of the best wingers
in the world. He thinks I think he looks at
himself as one of the best wingers, like he wants
to be paid like one. It hasn't really worked well
so far. What does he do because I don't probably
set the market for everybody else.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I thought, you pretty wild if he goes it's like
ping pong ball. I know Braden Shen news around wanting
to go to or not him wanting, but like the
leafs in him seem to be trending.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
There's like they want to do like a package deal.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I heard so oh with vot Shens.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, that's what Elliott reported on Saturday night. And I
heard Rampton into the Rangers.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
You might like that, really, I mean, I think they're selling.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, but he wouldn't be like he would be a
long term guy, right, he'd be for the next six
seven years.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
So the Rangers are a crazy junk girl right now.
I just stay away from them, like.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I don't know what they're gonna do any night. I
can say that because it's objectively true.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm curious. You're on the other side now you get
to work with Ron McLain. Elliot.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
You mentioned what's maybe something that you've learned from being
around them, And maybe it's one of them in particular
that you have brought into your analysis of the game
that when you were a player, you never even would
have thought of puns.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Puns for sure, Ron's got so many funny puns. And
now I find myself like our opening for the gold
medal game, we have like our pregame, we an hour
pregame show, and then at the top of the clock,
we have like a after like the reporters do their
ringside hits. We have like usually ninety seconds to make
a final comment. So Jen goes first always, and then Kelly,

(46:16):
and then I usually get whatever time's leftover. So before
it gets to me, I hear in my head like
thirty seconds, forty seconds, ten seconds from the producer. So
I come up during the day, I'm just sitting around
at the gym. I'm thinking about, you know, just some
things the game, and I'm like, I'm going to tell
like a little story about Like I'm like, what's the
greatest game or battle or and I'm like the Trojan War,

(46:38):
of course, So I start researching the Trojan War and
I do like a forty second spiel about the greatest
battle in human history was the Trojan War. It all
started with a golden apple. A golden apple was a
wedding gift. Blah blah blah. I go, this game is
the precursor is the Golden Goal in twenty ten by Crosby?
And then I wrap it up by saying, is this

(46:58):
going to be the Golden mcmoment? And I'm like, I'm
turning into Ron McLean. I'm just going to say I'm
morphing into Ron. I never would have done that six
years ago.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
So was Ron like looking at you like he was
just like miss slippy, Like, yes, like he was.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
So times like sometimes you just kind of say something quick,
you pick a player or or whatever, and Ron We're
in a flat desh. So Ron's at the other end
from me. And the way I knew he liked it
is because I'm kind of looking at the camera and
when I can see Ron just do one of these
and look down the line, and I'm like, he's like,
where's this guy going right now with this story? So

(47:35):
that's what I know he likes it. But I know
he likes that.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I mean, come on, that guy loved to meander and
I love Ron. I think he's the best there is.
But he can meander and then come back like no
one else in the business.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
You guys, you played together. What's a fun little memory
you might have.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
You know, Juice overall was the best teammate, the ultimate pro.
You know, he always came to the rink ready to
ready to work, but having fun and also, you know,
love to give guys shit. You know, he's one of
the guys he had no problem chirping, Ryan Getz laugh,
Corey Perry. It didn't matter who it was, you weren't
off limits. And I think that's what I loved about

(48:13):
Juice was he was a guy that kept things intense
because the way he played on the ice, but he
also had he also had a knack, Juice of keeping
things loose in the locker room, and it was huge
for our young guys at the time. So I really
enjoyed playing with Juice, and he was He was one
of those guys too that it was nice to have
on your team because playing against Kevin was not the

(48:35):
most fun, as we all know, so to be able
to play with him, and I truly believe that in
those three years that we played together, with the Ducks,
and I'll say it and you guys will agree. We
should have won a Cup one of those three years.
Hands down. Our teams were just too good. But I digress,
and yeah, I mean that's my sentiment about it.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
It's funny, so like I did, I was Leppi and
I was Moluthy and I love to keep things. But
I feel like you guys all knew I had your back,
like if anything happened, I had your back. But it's
funny like I went for dinner the one night in
Montreal and when I walked in, by coincidence, the team
Canada Brass was there and gets he was there, so

(49:16):
walk by and kind of catch catching me off guard.
Hig Hey, and then kind of like walk by and
gets he kind of says something and he's sitting at
the corner and I look at him, and right away,
in my head i'm looking I'm thinking about like I'm
going to fire right back at him. Right even though
he's in a different scene. He's went like all much
older general managers of the NHL, And I look at
him and I go, no dress code with the GM's

(49:38):
gets you. You weren't a hoodie right away, right, and
his face kind of goes red, and I'm like, I
go back to the table. I'm like, oh, maybe that
wasn't the right place to like beat gets, you know,
in front of all of his peers that he's trying.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I think that's I think it's the best place to
do it.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
When he came over after and he was laughing about it.
But I think I think the best teams I played
on the room was just chirpy and like give it
to each other and fun. But then you go on
the ice and you go on to battle for each other.
So I think we had that in Anaheim. You and I,
like we played cards together a lot too, So I
never had one flight in my NHL career. I didn't

(50:14):
play cards like. I don't think I had one flight
other than sometimes you get that plane where it's the
three three and you just can't play a game. And
we played a lot of cards, and cards got competitive too,
And I remember you, you and I would battle in
cards too because Cam was a bit of a pushover.
It was you and me, Cam Fowler, and then the
other seat would kind of rotate. But Cam kind of

(50:35):
sucked at cards, So you and me were always kind
of battling always and it would get heated, Like I'd
leave some playing rides mad at you because because we
were like chirping each other about Like the only churps
I couldn't take is when we were chirping about cards,
and I remember you and I almost got into a
fist fight. Oh yeah were cards?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
What happened? Why why did you almost fight?

Speaker 4 (50:57):
We played? We played a game called up and Down,
and it's like a variation of parts. So every time, yeah,
you have to like you have to like put a
card down, but you have the ability to slough off,
so you can you can screw guys intentionally. You like,
if Tomer calls three and he's already got three and
he leads something little if I want, I can slough off,

(51:20):
or I can throw a little one and he can
get punted. So like it gets personal. So he's like,
I can't remember the exact specifics of it, but maybe
one of us did that to the other and the
other guy did not like it.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Like why are you punting me? I'm the logo? Like
it was one of those like you probably remember I
probably I do, vaguely, I do.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
I do remember that there was some words being going
back and forth, and it was it got awkward for
Cam Feller, who's like the nicest guy in the world,
and I think he was just sitting there like, shit,
I don't know what to say right now these guys.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
So if I had a choice to punt Nate or Cam,
I would always take Nate because I knew I get
a reaction on him, like you punt Cam and can't
be like, oh my god, I'm the worst player ever.
But if I punted eight, you get mad and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Right, Yeah, yeah, man, I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I remember seeing you guys playing cards a lot on
the plane. This is weird about this conversation because I
do remember seeing you.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Guys there and stuff. What's a memory you have about
the TV crew?

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Oh? The TV crew, different different memories. You know what's
funny about TV that I learned. When you're in the NHL,
the travel, the hotels, everything is geared around making sure
that you're able to perform at an optimum level. So
we go out to New York. We were going two
days early to make sure we're climatized. You know, when
you get to media, nobody cares about if you're tired

(52:42):
or not, because it's not really a physical job, it's
a mental So you can be on air until one
thirty in the morning and then you don't get back
to your hotel at two thirty and then there's like
a four to thirty wake up call to fly out
somewhere else, you know what I mean. So you kind
of figure out pretty quick that you just see all
these zombies in the lobby. Like the charter that went

(53:02):
from Montreal to Boston, like that was that was an
early morning we had to take off at a certain
time to get ahead of that storm. And in the media,
you just you just grind it out with the travel
and everything. But we created a little thing at Hockey
Night since I've been there, like it's been probably three
four years, at after every Sat not everybody, I'd say
ninety percent of the Saturday nights. After the show, me, Elliott,

(53:25):
Kelly and Ron go out just for one one drink,
one or two maybe sometimes and we just kind of decompress.
And that's where like the stories starts to go right
because you can't, you know, we're working, we're micd up
and that's when we start telling stories and that's when
all Elliott's big scoops that he can't share on there.
That's where all the juice comes. And then Ron starts

(53:46):
telling a story from like nineteen eighty three that's unbelievable.
And Kelly starts telling a story about when he flew
in to like interview somebody and they like shafted him
and he was so mad. Like, all the stories start
coming out, and for me as a retire guy, like
this is the stuff you miss, like the calm and
the chirping and the jokes and the story time. So

(54:07):
that's probably my favorite thing about working at Hockey Night
is that I drink afterwards with those three and then
Brian Spear comes sometimes, Kathy Broader comes sometimes. That's a
lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Those are great.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I mean, I had asked you specifically about the Anaheim
Ducks TV crew, but I appreciate that pivot because it
was a very good answer. Memories of us the TV crew,
you know, the best TV crew in the world. Hazy
Johnny Me Frenchie Gee.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
I don't think you guys are a sober on the road.
I don't think I ever saw you sober on the road.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I agree with that one too.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
The most hydrated the most hydrated regional crew I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Oh my god. And look at Krusty in the mornings too,
game skates. I'm like, oh, maybe you know.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Is that what you guys thought about us?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah? You guys in brush your teeth in the morning, and.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Like like, okay, I did I know, I know want
a couple of guys on that crew. They definitely did it.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
French he's a wagon that guy.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
His eyes wouldn't even be open. It'd be like sealed
shut in the morning. Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
See what I meant, Krusty in the morning. I saw it.
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I just remember Kessler. You know, Maroon told me he
wants to mix in a water and I was like,
oh god.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
That was probably before you interviewed me on yours.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
No, sadly wasn't else.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So it'd been nice to have those two memories together
instead of in various different ranks. But yeah, we had
a great time and you could see how much that
was our team. But I remember one time, just as
a little thing, when you guys won in Calgary after
you know, you kind of body bagged me in that
interview that we showed, But that was for fun quote unquote,
Is that we all ended up at Cowboys together because

(55:56):
as a TV crew, our rule was always if the
players got there first, we would leave.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
But if we got there first, then we stayed.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Like I think that I was always kind of known,
but then we all were there together, and you were
so nice, Kevin. You came over and like bought us beers.
You know, as poor media people, we really appreciated that.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
So thank you for another example of that. I liked
you guys, right. I remember about that night because like
that was probably the last time I was ever at Cowboys.
And my college roommate, my college roommate my first year,
was the manager there that night. For some reason, I
lost track with him and then he like comes over.
It's my college roommate. I live with him, and and

(56:36):
I remember I think we were you put us in
another section and everybody in Cowboys had a flame jersey on,
and it started to get kind of tense, like they
started kind of chirping us. And I don't know if
you remember that, Tom or if you're there, but like
I thought, we're gonna have to fight our way out
of that bar, and then they kind of my buddy's like,
we should probably get you guys out of here right now,
Like they were like, you know it starready at like

(56:56):
one like innocent churb and then you guys are losers.
And then next thing you know, there's like eight nine
guys kind of around our section and kind of like good.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Suck and like what.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
We're winners? You suck?

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Yeah, you're a loser, nice jersey loser. And then we're
fighting our way out of there. So my buddy's like,
you guys should probably go.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, that's tough being on the road for that.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Okay, well, I think we're probably gonna have to let
you go, even though we'd love to keep chatting forever.
You got you got some work to do, Nate, you
got a final singer.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
No, I'm just glad you guys have come on. I mean,
we could probably go on all day. So thanks for
coming on, buddy. I appreciate it. And it's awesome to
see how well you're doing. I mean, I know I
watch hockey. No, you can it all the time, so
it's fun to watch and you are one of the best,
So we're gonna keep following you. Ben.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Guys.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
When you when you asked me to come on, Tom
or I told you right away, yes one percent, I'm
coming on. We'll just figure out the day. Guys are
two of my faves.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
So well, thank you, congratulations, really appreciate you coming on,
and yeah, keep up the amazing work. It's you've just.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Lapped like I've been broadcasting for like fifteen years and
it's like you just like lapped me like five times.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I was like, great, this is cool.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
No, but congratulations and you guys do an awesome job. Also,
I always stream Hockey Night in Canada down here too
in the US, So good luck on the playoffs and
we'll see you on TV.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Let's go golf and Juice done.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
That was Kevin Biex. Juice.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
What a beauty he's He always keeps it one hundred
love to I just love that you must. I mean,
it's is it weird talking to old teammates.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
No, it's awesome. And you said it with Juice, which
we call everyone that doesn't know everyone. His nickname is Juice,
and there's no filter with him. You know, he says
what he means, and I think that's why he's so
good at what he does. Now, you know, he tells
it how it is. And he was like that. When
he was a teammate, he wasn't afraid to let you know,
and and that's what I loved about him. He was

(59:05):
He's awesome.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I mean, why is it juice? I wanted to ask
him that.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
It's actually a good question.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
I know that that nickname came from Vancouver, so it
just kind of followed over with us with Anaheim. That's
a good question. We probably should Yeah, whoops.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I whiffed on that one.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Obviously, not SPORTSNT analysts of the year over there would
have asked that question.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
You guys just played and we mentioned it in the interview.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
In the La Strong tournament that was for benefiting those
who lost everything in the LA fires, sadly, and lots
of first responders that were playing.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Honestly, it looked really, really really cool. It was so cool.
I got a video of you coming out.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I was like, yeah, I was like literally just fangrilling
over Nate coming out on the ice. And then I
never got to see you play because the air guitar whatever.
It's unfortunate, but you had you dropped the mits there.
What was the what was the highlight of your tournament
with LA Strong?

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
I don't know, if there's one highlight, I think all
of it because like showing up, I mean, kudos to
the La Kings, the NHL for throwing this thing together
in a short amount of time that they did, and
to have all these big celebrity stars stoop Dog, Will Ferrell,
Danny DeVito, Vince Vaughn. I mean that Justin Bieber was
on our team, Steve Carell, I mean it was crazy

(01:00:24):
and sitting in the locker room with you know, with
Bieber and Steve Carell and all these people, and then
seeing and Cammi Gernado too, I mean Hall of Famer
as well, right, like being around all that and then
everyone was just everyone was in a good mood. Everyone
was so happy to be there and have fun, and
it was there was this feeling. And I talked to

(01:00:45):
Kevin about this juice BBXIT and we talked about it
and said, like, you know, when you're watching a game
from up top as a former player, you don't really
get the same feels. Right when we were back down
in the locker room coming out of the tunnel, fans
everything like old memories, old fields come back because you know,
you're putting the gear on and all of a sudden,
you're like, you know, you're out there in front of

(01:01:07):
all these fans, and I remember after, you know, I'm
sitting next to Jeff Carter and Jordan Nolan and we're like,
holy shit, Like was it really that hot out there
when we played? Because I was dying of heat. I
was so hot and I couldn't believe. I was like,
how did I play when it's this hot? But it
was I think overall, just to be able to be

(01:01:29):
out there have fun and listen to Snoop dog and
Will Ferrell behind us coach as we're going and you know,
Will fare or Will Ferrell and Stoop giving me a
little pat after my fight with Derrek Armstrong, you know,
I mean, just little things like that where you're just
kind of like where am I?

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
You know this?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, it's an incredible moment. It was incredible cause and
to be a part of it, it was, I mean,
it was a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That's got to be so surreal, like having I mean,
you mentioned Snoop Dogg with the you know, smoking sign,
but like, what's something Will Ferrell maybe said or did that.
You're like, I can't even believe he's my coach right now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Well, he came into the locker room and he was
talking about He was like, well, okay, two words. If
I say swarm, you guys all go around the net
and just stand from their net. He's like, and if
I say blockade, everyone come to our net and stand
in front of it. So and then he's like, swarm,
what do we do? Okay, blockade, what do we do?

(01:02:26):
And then he decided too that he was going to
wear he was going to wear a full helmet and
face like cage on the bench. So he was coaching
with a mic full cage on because he was like
afraid he was going to hit by a pucket and
like it was like halfway through the period. I look
back at him and he's like trying to talk and
he's like, yeah, I should just take this thing off,
shouldn't I. And I'm like I'm like, yeah, you should

(01:02:47):
probably take it off. He's like, yeah, I can't really
breathe right now. I'm like, yeah, maybe take it off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
So, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I used to have like a healthy banter with like
Will Ferrell on the bench and you know all these
people next year that are you know, celebrity superstars or
Hall of Famers. It was just it was an incredible event,
incredible to catch up with so many other players that
I played with, played against, and I don't know, overall,
it was just an incredible I'm still kind of on

(01:03:14):
a high coming down from it because it was just
of course, it was so much fun last night, so
much fun. So so did you do Swarmer Blockade? We
definitely did not do Swarmer Blockade because we lost five nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Well, you should have done Swarmer blockade. It feels like
I was because missed the game plan.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Well, our game plan was in order. We just we
just ran into your old boyfriend Goalie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
That was Okay, shut up. I highly regret mentioning that
that was all you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, but he was the he was the ebug for
a bit for the Kings. I remember that, or like,
that's the like the guy that sits like he had
to go to every game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I remember, Okay, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know,
I know what e bug is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
No, I know, but like, is that that's the e bug.
It's just like the guy that has to go to
every game. Sometimes it feels like the ebug is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Like just a guy that's there and it's like, oh,
they usually have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
A guy annoying as.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
An e bug, not just like, oh my gears in
the trunk. I guess I could play, But yeah, I
thought I thought it was so cool. So did you
did you ever have in a moment, I know you
said it was really hot out there, but you've been playing.
It hasn't been that far removed from you playing in
the league. Did you ever think like, maybe I could
come back and do this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
There's flashes. And the only reason I say there's flashes
is and I was talking to Teddy Purcel about this.
Excuse me as your brain thinks that you could do
something out there that you think you're going to be
able to do, but then your body, your hands, your legs,
your skates, everything don't do that. So in your head,

(01:04:49):
I'm like, Okay, I'm going to make this rink wide
sauce pass and it's going right on the tape. No no, no, no,
it's going to be a pizza and Alexander Edlar is
going to pick it off and he's going to come
back down and they're going to score a goal. That's
that's what happens. So my mind is saying, all right,
I'm to make this play but my body doesn't do it,
and you know that's just the way it goes. So
maybe there was flashes, but there was never after the

(01:05:10):
fact where I was like, yeah, I think I could
still do this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So I think you're onto something that'll answer your question. Yeah,
because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
About your Briten mind. That's what everyone's about these days.
Like doctor Joe despends it to get out there. He's
all about the mind influencing the body versus the body
influencing the mind. Right, Like, so you could actually maybe
teach your body again through your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
It's kind of like a boy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Meets World type thing where you put your headphones on
and listen to how to figure skate or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
When he wants trying to learn how to skate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
I think my body's too broken. Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Hey, you're a jiu jitsu king. Now I feel like
there's and fighting's big. Now fighting's cool again. I think
there might be a role for you somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, maybe, never know. I mean for a one day,
one day thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
If anyone needs one day contract kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Guy, or just take a couple face offs. Maybe I
can do that. I could take some face offs and
just change.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Then you're out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
You're like, I'm coming in. I'm freelance. I'm gonna put
in five minutes, not even You're gonna get one shift,
and then I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Beebs, beeps, come on, change for me, Change for me.
Come on, beeps, Bebes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
How okay?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
How did you guys feel when Bebes like won the
face off against Mark Messier, Well, it was like I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Was a little nervous for him because like we're all,
you know, we're standing in the blue line, and I
gotta say, Mark Messier with gear on and the way
he moves, he looks the exact same. It was like eerie,
Like it was like watching him all of us, like
Jared Stole, like all of us watching were like, holy shit,
Like he looks the exact same way, Like taking the

(01:06:54):
face off, the way he was like moving, I was like,
oh my god, that's Mark Messi from the Edmonton Oil.
Oh my god, that's Mark Messi for the New York Rangers.
Like he just that's mister game saund you know what
I mean. And have to like check myself a little
bit because he just looks the same. So when he
went out for that face off, Bieber like goes out
there real quick and we're kind of like whoa, Like wait, wait,
wait for Messier, wait for Justin, you know, but eventually,

(01:07:18):
you know, obviously mess was great about it, just went
out there and had a good time, but worse. I mean,
it was amazing all of it. Like I think even that,
I mean Mark Messier, I mean that that's the guy too.
That to me, he's right up there with all those
celebrities for me, uh to be able to see him
move around like he was and just you know, just
overall like what a guy. Like Ultimately he is he

(01:07:39):
is the captain of like all NHL players.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
That's how honestly I think he really is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
He really is. He is the captain of everything. And
you saw it, and it's just his demeanor, his presence.
I mean, I know I went off on a tangent
with him, but it's just you know, it's easy to
do with Mark Messier.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
So I think that's under Sorry to interrupt, but I
think that's so cool too. Like everyone thinks like, okay,
all these lebrities and then it's like, wow, you get
to see Mark Messier playing hockey when we haven't seen
him play when he retired in four but like, just
like the prime of his career was late eighties and
winning the Cup ninety four with the Rangers and like

(01:08:18):
all this kind of stuff, and you're like, oh my god,
it's almost like you're seeing an operation on the ice
of like this guy that's and as you mentioned, still
like has it, but he is in the time I've
gotten to know him and like me and him are
kindred spirits. I'm literally going to say that because we
like to follow the fun let's I'm going to leave
it there. You guys can come come up with whatever
you want with that. Usually that results in a very

(01:08:41):
very late night. Whenever I'm hanging out with Mess, I
hate my life the next day, is all I can
say consistently. But he's such a good person, like he's
This is one example I'll give you is when we
were in Montreal for the Canada USA he I was
with his son and his nephew because I'm part of

(01:09:03):
the family now, Evidently I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Was at the kids table and so we got ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
We had tickets, but we realized the tickets were for
Boston and we're like, uh oh, Mess gave us tickets
to the final, not this game, and then he ended
up giving us tickets, but they were like in the
two hundreds or whatever. I'm very grateful to be a
part of the Messier like I don't know family, and
but his nephew had bought tickets for like him and

(01:09:31):
his friends like in the lower bowl, like very very close.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
To the ice, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Like he was like, well, why don't we just take
those tickets down by the low ones and we'll give
the other ones to you know, my friends. And we
were like okay, sure, And then Mark was like, but
didn't you have your friends pay for those tickets down
in the one hundreds And he was like yeah, but
like whatever, he was like, you cannot. You cannot have
them go sit in the higher seats if they paid

(01:09:59):
for the lower seats.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
That's just not right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
And I remember being like Mark Messier is a very
good person, like he's he's like to the core, like
just good human, will help anyone out, We'll talk to anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Teammate is like, what comes to mine?

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
First?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Can I go one more thing about him too?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, let's go. Let's have a whole Mark Messier.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Billy Ranford, former goalie, played for the Oilers one Cups there.
He's now the head of goalie department for the LA
Kings and I was talking to him last night and
Billy Ranford played with him. He had the same feeling
as me. Like he was talking about it. He was like, Nate,
you know what the most the coolest thing about all
this was He's like, is I got to play with
my teammate Mark Messier. He was like, the last time

(01:10:45):
I played with him, know, we were playing, and now
we're playing together in this charity game. And he was like,
I have the same feeling towards Mark Messi when I
play with him as I do now. And he's like
the fact that I got to play with Mark And
he's like, you have no idea how much he meant
to my career.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Coming into the league with the evanton Olaers before they
won the Cups where he won Cups with them, and
he said he said, Mark Messier was a type of
leader that didn't matter if you were the first line guy,
if you're a fourth line guy, sixty extra guy, whatever
did matter. He talked to everyone the same, treated everybody
the same. He knew that everyone had an important role
on the team, and everyone was important didn't matter who

(01:11:24):
you were. So to hear that from a guy like
Billy Ranford who played goal goalie forever a ton of
cups and you're hearing that from him at that charity
event last night was pretty special.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
That's I mean, what a great review of his character.
He's just incredible person. Well, we'll have to have him
on the pod at some point we should. Yeah, he'll
do it because yeah, maybe that's next week. We'll have
to see the guy is the busiest guy in the world,
but somehow makes time to do everything. It's astonishing, it's amazing. Okay,

(01:11:59):
Well that's our Mark Messier love Fest. That will be
a new segment where we just wax poetic about Mark
Messy or we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Just pick a guy every week and we just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah beautys, like we'll pick a beauty every week.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Well, we just pump their tires.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, pump their tires. Okay, yeah, pump their tires. That's
that's what we do here on the Energy Line. We're
bringing energy and we appreciate you guys listening to everything
that we have been talking about here. This is episode
four of our new podcast, Energy Line with Nate and JSB.
Energy Line is a production of the NHL and iHeart
podcast Big thanks to Kevin Biexa for joining the show,

(01:12:37):
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(01:12:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Next week.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Nate and I will be back with another episode with
another big guest, hopefully Mark Messier next Tuesday. Thank you
for listening to energy Line with Dayton JSB.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Catch you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
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