120: My Way of the Highway With Scott Foley

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So is this the new norm? Is my question? Is
the new norm that you come five minutes late to
all of our sessions?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's three minutes, you fucker.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let me tell you something. We have a very fancy
We got a very fancy guest, and the very fancy
guest is sitting sitting alone in his closet and you're
what are you doing making a drink?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I was about to get my GT's kombucha. Actually I
was asking.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I was gonna ask for like five minutes so I
could get a GT's. Well, not five minutes, five seconds.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I got a big old ship.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I got a ship like, I got a real shipman,
not like not that you know what interested Yeah, not
that we're interested in advertising in your uh on.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Your podcast shipment. I got that, yo.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
You know you got to talk about you got to
talk about us every time you talk to start this
podcast shipment. So I got that big ass kimbucha shipment.
And I've already gone through two of in Bad Boys.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You might, Yeah, Donald, we were on a call. Gts
K has become us answer of the show, and we
are on a call with them, and Donald and I
genuinely drink it. So it was a no brainer. And
Donald's like, let me ask you something. Since we have
the inventor of this on the phone, how many do
you recommend I can have a day? And the guy
the Guy's like, well, I think three is probably probably

(01:18):
the max you want to have a day. And Donald's like, okay, good, good, good,
So you might want to pace bro.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
They're gonna be gone soon. Man, They're gonna be gone. Listen,
let met my wife, my kids. Oh it's a wrap.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
We have a very First of all, this episode is
fucking hilarious, very funny episode. I laughed so many times.
And I was on a text with Donald and Bill
right before this and about something, and I was like,
this episode one twenty is one of the funniest of
season one.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, easy, easy, And we're a.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Very handsome guests. Are you nervous? I put on a
nice sweatshirt for him.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
No, I'm not nervous. He and I have worked a
lot together. Actually we did Felicity together. We four Scrubs,
and then after Scrubs we did a little movie called
Let's Kill Ward's Wife together, and I played Ward uh
and he directed, and so uh, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Get I get nervous every time I see Scott Fully
because really, yeah, I'm I'm a straight man for the
most part. But there are certain men that I get
a little shy in front of, and okay, Fully is
one of them. Really, I don't want to play hide
the peep with him, but I get a little I
get a little jittery.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Will you played? Would you play tip to tip?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I don't want to touch tips. I just listen. I
am secure enough in my in my sexuality to be
able to say that I get a little, I get
a little a flutter. Oh okay, I don't want to
go tip to tip with Scott Fully, but I I
do think he's uh, he's very dreamy to look at,
and I I also really like him as a human being.
He's a he's a very sweet man. Okay, should we

(02:56):
invite him in?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, I'm excited. Dan bring him in, Dan allow
him in. We put him in a green room. Oh
my goodness, man, just talking about you? You were yeah,
Donald was saying that you guys have worked on several
projects together.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Not wait before we get into this, Let's make sure
he's recording.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Are you recording stuff? Fully?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I think I'm recording on here right the phone.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, good, yes, good, good many a guest. I got
this sub scuff fully, but there's something that tells me
that you're going to do it right.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh, you look so handsome. Look at him looking up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'm gonna wait. I was gonna wait. I was gonna
wait a beat to tell him he was handsome. Donald,
you went right for it.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Can tell you this. I watched the episode not that
long ago.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I've watched it a couple of times since we talked
about me being on this, and this is the first
time my hair has been the same length as it
was during that episode.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
And I have the pandemic to think.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Scott, you got an intro. I don't think another man
in nine years got the intro that we normally reserve
for the beautiful woman walking in with the slow motion
and the fan and they literally angels, going oh.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
It was a bit much, and I was a little overwhelmed.
And I think you can tell that in my performance.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It was hilarious though. And eating Jello seductive.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
I mean I remember them.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
I remember them coming to me saying, like, what do
you want to eat? I was like, it's a hospital, right,
and they're like jello. It is way.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Sarah's character is so randy for you in this I
had forgotten, you know, we obviously, Scott, we go back.
We haven't seen these in twenty years, and so it's
fun for Doll and I because even though we're the
stars of the show, were watching it like a new being, like, oh,
that's a funny episode, and I had totally forgotten how
in this episode Sarah is like really horny, frankly and

(04:45):
riled up, like she's like she's.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
She literally says if I don't sleep with him, I'm
gonna kill myself.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right, And then yeah, she said she she'd suck on
his foot or something.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
And then he's like, what I did?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
They went They went to a lot of lengths with this,
between the sucking on the foot, talking about needing to
sleep with me, begging me to ask her out do it,
dropping stuff, and doing bizarre contortions, which by the way,
works for anybody out there.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
It was really funny though, because it's not something you
often see on a show, like you always see like
the man being like neurotic and frantic. How do I
get her? And I'm so attracted to her, I'm so horny,
you know, And this I thought this was funny that Sarah.
First of all, Sarah was very funny doing it, but
she's so on a mission to get laid.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, I you know, it's funny. I had so many
thoughts watching this star. You're gonna see my lights going
on and nobody can see that because we're on a
past I'm in a closet where it's got one of
those automatic lights. You walk in and it turns on,
and if I'm sitting here and not moving, then it's
gonna go dark.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
That's the kind of fancy house that Scott Foley has.
Everyone he has a light that turns on with his money.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Some people have the clapper, some people have light switches.
Scott Foley has movement.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
One day, if you have the level of success of
legendary actor Scott Fully, you could get one of these
motion lights in your closet.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Uh huh.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think all of your closets have that.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
No. I was so impressed. First of all, what a
time capsule. These things are right, like not just the references,
but everything you see, Like the TV you guys are
watching in the beginning is an old vacuum tube television, right,
you know, which you just don't see anymore. Plus, you
guys are talking about watching Iron Chef, which somehow has
stood the test of time, because I think it's still on.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
I think there's still making.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, you know, I think back then it was like
Iron Chef was an import and now it's domestic.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't know that there is there a domestic Iron Chef.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yes, and all of that stuff and stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, but it was also it was also so impressive
to me to see, you know, this is the we're
getting towards the end of the first season, if I'm
not mistaken, and you guys have your characters dialed in
at this point already. I've been on a bunch of
television shows where it's not until like end of season
three where people are like, oh.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Oh, I know who this guy is.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
You guys are dialed in to a person like two
from Kelso to Cox to you guys to Sarah to like,
it's amazing and being able to jump into that, you know,
it was such an interesting character that I got to
play here.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
But you're right, watching Sarah and that character.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Totally go for it was such an interesting thing because
you always see it from the other side, don't you.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And she's really fucking funny. I mean, we say this,
this is our twentieth episode of this Scott fully, believe
it or not, it's become us a hit and we
can't believe it ourselves. But this is our twentieth one
and we've said it a bunch of times. But Sarah
Chalk is so fucking funny. I mean this episode in particular,
she is so fucking funny in this episode.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
She's so talented, she's so beautiful, she is so good
at what she does, and she goes for.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It, man.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
And that's what I appreciate it most about the show
is that you know there are things that you would
read on the page, you think like, oh, how am
I going to do that?

Speaker 6 (07:51):
And everybody, to a person goes for it.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
And I think that's what really made this show successful
and what makes it stand the test of time, even
though we're still looking at old TV sets.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, speaking of a lot to talk about, Donald, but
I think we should sing first, And.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Scott, I was about to say, speaking of successful, let's
get into that successful theme song about six seven eight,
Scott to do it.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, I like it the song I would like Scott
fully to count seven. God has gotten.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Five, six, seven, eight stories.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
We made about a bunch of talks and nurses and janitor.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
He said, here's a stories next. So YadA round here,
yeah here show is.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, that's the first time in podcast history we stopped
the opening theme song. And I'm sorry, Donald, I didn't
mean to question your no no.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
No no no no no no no no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's just about a VIP guest, and I thought, like,
give him the honor.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
He was really excited to go for it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm not I'm not at all hurt in any way.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, you know you're we are, we are, we are
partners in this, and I don't want you to ever
think I would ever question when it's time to sing
the song.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
It was your harmony song.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Your harmony with that song is something that that my
wife and I have had conversations about.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
We go for it, We go for it's really good.

Speaker 8 (09:21):
No listen, Scott.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
When we made the song, we were like okay, but
I was like, well, how do we how do we
do it? Now? How do we You know we made
the song, but how we are both going to sing
all the lyrics? And Donalds like, don't worry, I got this,
and he like came up with all those harmonies.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
I was like, Zach was like, I'll just send you
a I'll send you my verse. I'll sing the whole
song and I'll send it to you and you just sing,
because originally we were going to do it where we
split up the the the worst, yeah, right, And he
was like, I'll sing the whole thing and you just
pick where you want to sing, and we'll have Charlie
cut us in. And I heard him sing and I

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was like, I think he sounds amazing. The only way
that this is gonna work is if I just back
him up with some hard.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
If I sing the whole thing too, it's exactly good.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Exactly this is good.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But you know what's gonna everyone's gonna make it better
if I do really need if I do really showy
harmonies over all of this, well.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
It works and we are fans, so good job.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right, of course, Donald, I think we should go back
to what I was going to say that let's obviously
Scott's career. I'll do a little We got to go
back a little bit. Scott. The first time I remember
hearing about you was on a very, very successful show,
solely successful because of Donald's phase on but I believe
you were on it too. It was called Felicity, that's correct.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
Donald and I met for the first time on Felicity,
and I remember being.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Like, holy ship, the clueless guys here, that's what happens
every time he walks into a restaurant.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Of course, of course.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
But I also I mean Donald was great on that,
and you were you. You had that, you were going
through this phase where you were trying to be rip
you were. I remember I think the first table read
you came in, you were carrying like a three gallon
Jerry can of water.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, it was crazy, the amount of water.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
You would drink every day, and you were shredded. And
we'd play basketball in the parking lot out there. And
actually I remember, I think you've been on the show
off and on for a season or two, maybe three,
and before Scrubs came around, right, yeah, yeah, And I
remember talking to you. You had done the pilot and

(11:27):
you were telling me about it and you said, I
don't know, man, it's really funny.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
It's from this young rider.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Uh. He did Spin City and we got a good
group and I saw the pilot and it's really funny.
I think it's gonna take off. And I was like, yeah,
good for you. Let's keep playing basketball.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, and later, Yeah, we had a lot of conversations
just about work back back then. Also, you know, I
don't know how new you were to the game, but
you had been working. You did you had done Felicity,
You had done Scream two or was.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
It your scream Scream three? I'd done for Felicity.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I had done Dawson's Creek, which was sort of my
introduction to the back then was the WB the now
defunct WB World, which.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Was solicit your first big leading part.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Felicity was my first big leading part. Yeah, yeah, and
you know it was. It was really the uh the
springboard that and I'm so grateful for it that that
allowed me to be a part of your show and
sort of everything that's come since.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And and when you guys, are you guys still friendly?
The three of you, the three of you the love Triangle,
We're not not friendly. You don't like you know, I
me and Donald where you're not like having him over
and and and putting his putting his kids in a
in a bouncy castle.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
No, I'm I'm We're not like that.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
But but we got together last year for it was
the twentieth reunion of Felicity. Wow, which was amazing, and
we got so many people together. We went to the
at X, the Austin Television Festival, and I think they
screened an episode and we all sat on stage where
a bunch of people ask us questions. There was a
modern and it was really great. Was the first time
we'd all been together in you know, seventeen eighteen years.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, it was really really fun, man. And I uh,
you know, I'd always said, I don't think you know,
they talk about doing reboots, and I'd always said, I
don't think you can do a reboot of Felicity because
it was so specific to not just that time in
a person's life when we were all so much younger,
but to that period of the world of our existence.

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And I sort of changed my mind after being with
them because I just missed them all so much, and
I remembered the feelings that I had, both good and bad,
and I sort of yearned for them.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
So, if you know, I.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Think we have an exclusive right here on the Fake
Doctor's real Scott Foley is willing to do a Felicity
reboot everybody.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
That would be interesting again, it wouldn't be a no.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Could Donald be on it too? I would only support it.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
My character lives. My character lives, so it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I could. I only support it if you get to
come back down.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
It would be very interesting to see if everybody is
still friendly from the cast in the show, you know
what I mean, Like, you guys were in college together,
and you guys all lived together, kind disorder, and you guys.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
All dated each other, but it was college.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
And usually you know, I didn't go to college, but
I don't have a lot of friends from my you know,
early that I still hang out with from my early
twenties that I still hang out with. So it'd be
really interesting to see what happened after you guys all
left NYU.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I remember when there was a controversy when Carrie Russell
cut her hair, like people lost their minds, right, Yeah,
that's I remember being like, I I remember I didn't
watch the show, but I remember being like, are people
really up in arms that Garry Russell cut her hair?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
People were up in arms and it was it's to
this day, I think the thing that people talk about
the most when they talk about the show, and the
interesting thing is that it was scripted, Like she cut
her hair on the show and somehow it it gained traction.
Is this urban legend that she did it on her
own because she was angry or wanted to change or
get away from the character.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
We cut it.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
You actually see it in season two of the show,
her cutting her hair, and I thought she looked more
beautiful with the short hair than she did with the long.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
But you know, people just loved it. I'm just just
making up that people loved her hair so much that
they were like, how dare you?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a lot of hair, dude, it was a
lot of hair.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'm assuming, as I recall, she had beautiful, curly, long hair,
and people were like, you know, dare you?

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah, I mean enviable hair.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, it looked like she had been growing it since birth.
That's how beautiful the hair was.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Garry Russell was on our show. She was a love
interest of mine.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
On Scrubs? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yes, she did a couple of episodes, just like, well,
you did way more episode your character tracked.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
For Yeah, well the end, don't worry, Scott, you did
way more. But uh, you know you did me a
favor and look up how many she did.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
But she did too.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, oh, Donald, you know that that's cool.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
So now she's talented and great.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
And I kissed, I think, I mean on the show.
I think we kissed.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
We might be lip guarantee. I would guarantee that you
remember whether you kissed or not.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
No, I know, I I remember being very excited that
she was a love interest. But Jad didn't make out
with all his love interests. I Joelle will look it
up for me, did JD? But anyway, Scott, we might
be lip cousins.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
We're definitely wiener cousins.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
We're definitely wiener cousins. Donald and I were touching talking
about touching tips or just before you came on, but
not in real life Donald with Sarah.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
In the character.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, oh oh oh, well, I think I hope that's
the only crossover.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I don't think we had any real life crossover, Scott, fully,
and I hope not because the woman would have clearly
preferred you.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I don't know about that, although you know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Only how dare you you know how handsome you are? Yes, Scot, listen, listen, listen,
you to be handsome tell you know, listen, I know
that all of your supporters are out there right now,
you know, just you probably Boult, you know, quite a
few downloads to our podcast, just you.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, now, yeah, that's very kind people.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Oh your Scandal crew, Hey girls, how y'all doingand.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
C I'll take that as have something else in common,
and that is we've all had ABC cancel our shows
in season one, Yes.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Brutal thirteen episodes. He's got thirteen.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I only got I only got ten, Scott, how many
did you get?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
We got thirteen, Thank goodness, and a trip to Prague?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That right, right, So for those.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Of you who don't know, because I guess not enough
of you knew, none enough. Scott was on a huge
budget action series that shot in Prague. He moved his
whole family there, which is no small deal because you
have two children, right.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
I have three children. They were three school over there.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And it was not a by no means a simple
show I was about. I was going to direct it,
but then I had a conflict. But it was a
huge budget epic sort of James Bond comedic James Bond
action show that Bill Lawrence six Degrees of Bill Lawrence
was the showrunner of and I thought it was amazing.
The pilot was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the scale of it.

(18:13):
It looked like it looked like a giant feature. Oh
thanks man, and you were so good in it. But anyway,
I was, as I was preparing for today, I went
all three of us were at work, were stars of ABC,
and then got a new ABC show that only went
half a season.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Man, it was just and it's still heartbreaking. My wife
and I had a conversation about it a couple nights
ago where you know, she was like, Oh, I wish
we were still in Prague. You know, we just we
were so fortunate. And you know, that's one of the
great things about and one of the reasons I'm so
excited to talk to you guys today, because you know,
Scrubs for me was it started out as just a gig,
right and coming in doing something fun, doing something different,

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and it has morphed into the relationships that I've made
from it have have sustained a lot of what I do,
and it's it's made me happy the people that I've
gotten to work with and gone on to work with
because of Scrubs have been great. And like you said,
Bill Lawrence was the showrunner of Whiskey Cavalier and we

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were over in Prague together, and you know, without Scrubs
that wouldn't happened.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I think he really showed that you were really funny, Scott.
I meant I think that with your other shows that
you'd known for, you know, whether it be Felicity or Scandal.
You know, obviously people know that you as a as
a great dramatic actor, but I think on Scrubs Bill
really gave you a chance to be hilarious. One of
my favorite moments of of of Sean's character was in

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the script. I say this to Scott all the time
and Bill all the time that it literally said in
a script Sean for lornly rides a dolphin. And then
when I saw the shot of you for lorny riding
a dolphin, I thought he fucking nailed that.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Maybe he really the best screen direction of my career.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's how I would sum up that shot is Sean
forlornly rise of Dolphin.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Oh thanks man, Well, I will look.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Before I will say this, though I knew you were
funny from when we did Felicity together when Noel went
off the rails and went a little batshit crazy, and
you got to explore this character who was kind of
by the book and did everything by the book, refined himself.
And I remember doing a bunch of episodes where they
were looking for you and we finally found you, and

(20:29):
you were like, you were completely out there, And I
remember not being able to hold it together when we
were doing the takes.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Because you were so funny.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
So I knew you were funny way before we still
before you came on Scrubs.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Oh thanks man.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
I yeah, I think I think Zach you overstated my
my talent by saying I'm a great dramatic actor. I
think I'm passable. But Donald, that was. That was a
bizarre like Season three Tangent where my character Nol decided
to change his name to Leon, literally just reversed the
letters in his name. They put like a weird wig

(21:04):
on me, so I had like blonde tips on my hair.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
It was the strangest thing. But thank you, Donald, that was.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
It was at least a little chance for me to
stretch myself in that character.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now did J. J. Abrams run all the seasons?

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Every season? Yes, every season.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
He was gone a little bit on season four on
our final season because he had started a show called
Alias and so was sort of doing his time between
both sets. But he was there the whole time. I
was really fortunate. You know, obviously no one knew that J.
J Abrams would become J. J Abrams back then.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know, you like, do you like Donald occasionally put
it out there that you're open to being in any
Star Wars franchises that he's just.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Can I tell you it's been, It's been the like
if if I was ever.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
In Gunberg Gunberg, he keeps getting all the love. I mean,
where the Fu's happened with Donald and Scott Foley.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Grumburg and J. J Abrams have been friends since they
were three years old. Like they were best friends in
elementary school. They made you know, crappy movies together on
their Super eight film cameras when they were kids. They
were best men at each other's weddings. Look, I think
JJ knows just by the fact that I'm an actor
that I would like to be in Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
The gotta be more directs. Scot Donald's very about but
I would Yeah, of course, I would love to and
I've you know, every time he signs on to direct
a new one, I sent him a text like, Wow,
way to go.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
You're not going to see your family for a while.
Might want some friends around. So I'm not sure how
to take it that he hasn't cast me in. You know,
you always there's the old story that you know someone
likes working with you, if they if they hire you
again and again and again. And I've been I've been
fortunate with Bill that that that's happened multiple times. JJ
not so much what you know, fun.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Jolly build a direct and giant tenpole movie. I mean,
what's going on? Bill?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Step it up?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Do you remember he was gonna do Fletch eight script
for Fletch and I went and I met with him,
I read with him and there was a whole long
Mirrormac story that goes with it.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
But but he was on his way.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Man. I thought he would have been great at that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I know we really need him. I don't think he
is interested. He loves TV so much. But I think
for all of us, we would like Bill to become
a studio ten pole filmmaker. If he doesn't mind.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Making movies anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
They do there's a couple coming out.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, they're saying July. They're saying like that into July,
things are gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
They're saying that Chris Nolan movie is coming out no
matter what Tenant. Oh, really right, That's what I've been hearing.
And then I mean, maybe they'll change their mind. But
I read something on the interwebs that said they're still
saying July, which assumes that people are going to be
willing to go to the theater in July. I don't,
I don't, I don't know. It seems pretty ballsy to

(23:45):
release like a two hundred million dollars. I mean, I
don't know if it's not much money, but I think
scient movies for that for in July.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
But somethings are filming already, like they're filming in certain.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Joelle just said two hundred and five million and July seven,
that's coming up five million dollars. That's that's gonna be
interesting to see how you spend two hundred and five
million dollars.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
I would think, like, wohden't you have to double the
amount of theaters because the theaters are only going to
be at half capacity just because of social distancing in
order to like, they're just start enough theaters out there.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
The money two hundred and five is the production budget,
so they're gonna put like one hundred million into releasing it.
That is a that's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That is a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
But I asked my but then you ask yourself how
much did it cost to make Endgame and all of
those things? Those things look like they cost half a
billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, but when you've got a built in marvel Onians,
this movie has no mega celebrities in it at all.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
But it's Nolan man.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I mean, I know, I know, Chris Nolan is his
own enterprise. Don't get me wrong, I get it. But
it's got to be the most amount of money spent
on an original script.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Wowty million iname.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Scott, you're not supposed to read the producer. Sorry, okay,
this is the second time it's did the same thing Sarah.
Sarah did the same thing. Scott Donald and I are
the hosts of the show. You as a guest, ignore
my producer's notes.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Well, no, you know what I was doing was pretending
that I actually knew the budget.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Sarah. We had Sarah on and Joel was like, you know,
Joel always gives us little things to help the conversation along,
and Sarah just starts reading them, like.

Speaker 8 (25:23):
Sarah, that is not for the guests.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
The fact that you needed little things to help the
conversation along with Sarah when we worked with for ten
years is amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, but I said, I said, Sarah, what happens if
Joel's writing like this is so boring? Help her along?
You know, like, don't read those?

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Okay, So all, I'm gonna put a piece of tape
above my my no no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Joel write Joel would
never write Scott fully is so boring. Don't worry.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
She wouldn't be the first one.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Anyway. All I was saying was that Chris Nolan, I get,
is his own entity, and I get that everyone is
going to see this movie because he's a fucking genius.
But I wonder if it's the most amount of money
ever spent on a on a on a piece of
material that isn't already established piece of intellectual property like
Marvel or James Bond or the like. You know what

(26:11):
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
I don't I don't know it's a lot of money
to have to spend on something and it not work,
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just it's just the amount of
money it has to make in order for it to
be successful is just. And especially with what Scott's saying
is that the talk is that the theaters are only
gonna be half full, so you can have most distance
from from each other. So then you need double the
amount of screenings, you know, to work.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
What would be really interesting is Okay, so Trolls World
Tour was supposed to come out in theaters and it
didn't make it to theaters because of the whole COVID thing, right,
and so they released it on uh digital, the digital platform,
but you had to rent it.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
You couldn't buy it.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
You could only rent it, and your rental lasts for about,
you know, twenty four hours. I wonder how much money
Trolls World Tour made. Because the model is there to
put movies out, well, at least right now, if you
if you really want to watch and they haven't really
experimented with like big blockbuster movies, but if you really

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want to watch a movie, it's fine to watch it
at home. I understand they need movie theater money because
popcorn all of that shit theaters and everything. But I
wonder what Troll's World Tour did for Joelle?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Can we find that out?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I wonder if it's even I wonder if it's even published.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So seventy seven million Trolls World Tour did That's a lot.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, well that would be that would be you're saying,
is that the first weekend or is that total? No,
that would be faking sorry, that would be total. So
when you rented, because I haven't done this yet, when
you rent with this new model where you rent the
movie for twenty four hour, what is what? What did
Trolls cost you?

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Twenty bucks nineteen ninety nine?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I love the two dads. No, they're like twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, oh yeah please.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
I looked at my wife. I was like, we're spending
twenty bucks on this? Yeah, all right, several times to yah,
think how much?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Think how much money you've gotten off the faisons because
you guys are renting it multiple times.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
But it would cost more if we went to the
movie theater though, because it would be yes, twenty bucks
each person.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (28:16):
And so yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Plus popcorn and all of that stuff. I don't know
if they get money for the popcorn, but I'm just saying,
I wonder if that's a new Seventy seven million is
a lot of money to make online, Dude.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
That's a new model they've been talking about it. I
think it's a it's an interesting way to go.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Tell me what people are going to start doing. I
mean if because I don't know. You know, Spike Lee
said the other day he's not going to the theater
until there's a vaccine, and I was kind of like, yeah,
I think I might agree with that.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, my wife's not leaving
the house till there's.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
A fucking vaccine, you know.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
And that's your choice, right, It's yeah, sure, I have
a lot to do with that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Donald, your wife is your wife more hardcore than you
about this? Because Donald's definitely more hardcore than his wife.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
No, my wife is anxiety ridden out everything. She is
terrified not just that we're going to get it, but
that we're all going to die from it when we
get it. You know. Mind you none of us have
pre existing conditions. She has made five hundred masks and
donated them and given them the friends. She is all
over this and I still can't leave the house. Yeah,

(29:20):
it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
My wife doesn't like me right now because I'm like, well,
maybe it started off like this. Maybe maybe in May, honey,
maybe no, maybe in May. Okay, we'll see about May.
And then May's come around. I'm like, okay, maybe June.
And she's like, June is here, motherfucker. I'm like, listen, July.
When July comes around, I promise you, baby, we're gonna

(29:45):
scope out the situation and if it's all good, then
we can go outside.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Well, Donald and I got invited to go on Now
there's this really popular YouTube show called Good Mythical Morning,
and it's a hugely successful show. They do it in
a normal times to do it ever, excuse me, every
morning and uh we got an invite to do it
at the end of July, and I was like, I think, like,
and you have to go in person. They're not doing

(30:10):
it on on on Zoom And I was like, I think,
and we were just talking about this before the show,
like end of July, we could probably do that right
and we don't know. I mean, we're both having the conversation,
but in our heads, is like, are we gonna be
going to do a talk show end of July? Does
that seem like? Are we gonna wear masks?

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Like?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't understand how it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Talking face to face? Two.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I mean, you know, everybody's got an opinion. Mine is
I think it's gonna be okay. You know at a
certain point, don't don't you? Doesn't life have to go on?

Speaker 6 (30:39):
I mean it does, yes.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I know, but but but choosing yeah, life will go on,
but choosing to go into like making choices that are
like I'm gonna go sit in a movie theater with
a bunch of people that might be coughing, or I'm
gonna go into a tight elevator or a restaurant. I
mean those choices. I don't know. I might, we might
hold hold off on those. We gotta go to a
break because that's what we have to do, because this
is a real show that has breaks and ads and

(31:01):
ship Scott fully, this isn't like a bullshit show. This
is a show breaks.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
You guys have supporters, now, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
We have, and we have real fancy ones too, and
here here's some here's some of them. Are well right,
Donald that I Donald that I dotal that I hold
off to see who's gonna do it.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
We're like that.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
The shame you guys don't enjoy this because of the delay.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Nothing we ever do is in sync. So we sometimes
asked Dan to in post to make it seem like
we know how to sing at the same time.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Thanks, Can you guys give me a minute to run
and grab my notes?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, but don't don't. Don't take a deuce, dude, we
got Scott Fully here.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Scott Fully I would never do on your time.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
His minute is the equivalent of him learning learning his
lines on scrubs.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
This is glad. You know we talked a lot about this.
Will you please say that when he comes back.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Or not learning his lines, I should say.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
He's going away.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
He claims he's turned over a new leaf, but I
think that's just because he's worried that potential directors and
showrunners might be listening to the podcast and won't hire him.
So he has this whole thing where he says that
he's he's turned over a new leaf and now he
learns his lines.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Well, how it's a pandemic. That's his new leaf. There's
nothing to learn.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I know he also said he quit weed, but I
think that I will ask him if that's if that's lasted,
Why is your wife's instagram handled? The mean Chick? She
seems like such a nice person.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Does she.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, I don't know her that well, but every time
I've hung out with her, she seems delightful.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
She is delightful her her She's Polish and her last
name is Domin Chick or demean Chick, which sounds like
the mean chick. So every time someone has has a
hard time pronouncing her name, she just says it sounds
like the mean chick.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
So that's all.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh, I thought there was. I thought it was like
a thing like, look, you might think I'm nice, but
I'm a bitch.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
No, no, no, she's She's an asshole. But god, I love her.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
And she had a good part on your show too,
didn't she. Yeah, Man, I forgot. Did she have a
recurring or something?

Speaker 6 (33:14):
She had she had a recurring role.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
And that was sort of one of the one of
the caveats I had when I was when I was
talking about shooting this show in Prague, you know, I
was like, you guys want me to move over to
Prague for a year, and I got a wife who's
a working actress. I got three kids that I'm gonna
put in school, Like, I can't ask her to stop.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
And Bill was like, she could be on the show. Yeah,
you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Bill's a good salesman. He's like, I just I just
discovered who our new recurring role is.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yeah, you know, but that it was a it was
a It was a smart move on his part and
and ours. Actually, you know, shooting over in Prague was
obviously much better for the budget. The tax breaks and
the cost of doing business over there is substantially lower.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
So and and just that production value. You know, there's
a shot in the pilot. By the way, if you
haven't seen the show, go see it. Even if you
just watch the pilot, because you'll be impressed by the
scope of the damn thing. I just couldn't. I thought
it was a pilot was really well done, and I
was I was gonna go direct one. I was sort
of intimidated. I was like, how many days you get
to shoot these episodes?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Because it was just we were so excited to have
you over there.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Man. We were so bummed when it when it fell through,
and I know you got a big I got a gig.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I got a part in a a good role in
a movie with Christopher Walking and uh my actor crush heart.
Couldn't say no to that. As much as I wanted
to come to Prague and Boss Scott folding around the show,
I know she's that episode would have wouldn't have been
the thing. No, but I I I I can't wait
to work with you again because I think you're Fansmastic Donald.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
You're so amazing in this episode.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Man, Yeah, let's get into the episode. Well, let's get
in the episode. Yeah, it's a very good episode. You
know we Adam Burnsteen directed it. Who directed our pilot.
We've told you, and he's a very very funny talented guy,
Eric Er, very funny rider.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
I played tennis with him after this episode.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
You're a good tennis players and not a bit of
trivia about you.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
That is a bit of trivia about me. I'm I
can hold my own. I'm not great, but I can
hold my own.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's what college.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's what people who are really good say to be modest.
You're really good. I think can you beat Bill?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, Bill's really good.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Bill's really good. Although although these days I don't know,
he's gotten older.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Bill. You know, Bill and I we don't. We don't
play together because it's just not fun for for either
one of us. But we often hit. We've we've vacationed together,
and we would like each hit with a pro on
separate courts because I'm I just can just get by.
But I love it. And Bill's is like, you know,
played college is really good. Yeah, but he would play
these young pros and try his ass off to but

(35:45):
he would keep up with him. I mean, you know
it was it was he was impressive.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Yeah, No, he's he's good.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
He and I have gone out to hit a few times.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
And we have a tennis program named Christian Kapolick who
was a pro for a while and and sort of
hits with a bunch of people around town and we
both play with him.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
But Bill's very talented.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
As by the way, getting back to the episode, was
mister Weinberg, he's a very good tennis player.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I got to say that. What I want to start
to say is that you know, we're watching these episodes, Scott,
and they're all some of them are great and some
of them are just okay. As as happens when you
make one hundred and eighty two episodes of something. Sure,
I have to say this one is particularly really.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Fucking funny that one quite a few times.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I about a bunch. Not only do we have Scott'sholt
and Sarah's ark, which is hilarious, but the janitor fucking
with me and telling all my patients to get sergerty.
It's so funny.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
And Donald he just everybody to everybody. I was this episode.
He talks to.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Ever everybody Bill, you know, as you know Bill has
held on to this, uh, this lure that in season
one the janitor only spoke to JD. And and if
he was debating whether as we went forward, if if
the janitor would be just be a figure in JD's imagination.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is where it went off the way.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I think EPI episode he must have been like
fucking because the janitor talks everybody.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
J is real.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
He's given advice, He's given medical.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Advice to people. Yeah, that was really funny. Let's get
into it. I'm your biach. Very funny. U.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, this was.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
This is the beginning, well not the beginning of Scrubs
being a musical, because we had Judy and Sam sing together.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, but this is the beginning of big product musical productions.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Though in scrubb we're all dancing in the hallway, Yeah,
singing on a on a made up uh fire escape.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah. This was our homage to West Side Story, and
we clearly didn't have the rights because we're very clearly
tiptoeing around it being a West Side Story spoof. But
it is a West Side Story spoof.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
I loved it. I love the musical theater references. I thought,
you know, I was I was sitting there watching this
trying to think of the sort of the theme, and
you know, they talk about competition, but but whether it's
whether it's you, H J D and Turk or Cox
and kelso like it's it's not necessarily competition, but there's
a power struggle happening here with all these characters, which

(38:03):
was really interesting to watch. And I thought the you know,
we're not obviously not there yet, but I thought that
the resolution, especially when it came to you guys a storyline,
was a great one.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah. Yeah, it is about it's about I guess that's
the theme in the two main storyline, I mean not
the two main because you and Sarah on one but
the Cox Kelso one and the me Donald one is
competing with your peers. And you're right, it is the
first time we get into all these games that Donald
and I would play over the years. Uh, these stupid,
these stupid little challenges. You know, what was the one

(38:34):
with hide the saltine and all the many things.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
But this was the first tower finger.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
And they're all very They're all named in a very
Bill Lawrence way, you know, like steak is just called steak,
it's just but but even what Cox calls the nerves
coffee nurse. Like it's so simple the way Bill names things.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And it's hilarious, by the way, a little bit of
trivia coffee nurs. I don't know if you know this
is uh Matt Tarsus's beautiful wife, Katie Tarsus.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Matt, I didn't know that, Matt.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I didn't you know Matt Tarsis Scott.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Fully, Yeah, I know Matt, but I didn't know that
was his wife.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Matt tarsus Is was one of our great writers on Scrubs,
and he created, along with me, our our ABC show
that didn't work, Alex inc And uh, he's a great
human being and has a beautiful wife. And I stopped
and I was like, that's Katie Tarsus playing coffee nurse.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
She was great.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
And I texted and I said, your wife is so
beautiful in this episode and he said yes, And I said,
I'm not gonna never mind. What do you got done?
You got anything else? This dude is fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
What's the name of the gentleman who played mess Red Stoler?

Speaker 8 (39:51):
Is his name?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
So good?

Speaker 8 (39:53):
This guy.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I got to tell you, if you are a director
or a filmmaker or a showrunner, you need to hire
this guy because every sentence he said, I laughed out loud.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Out loud. I remember laughing when we were making the
show and him doing this. The lines in the thing
the Chicken that he shit had me going for days.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
He takes the funniest he takes the funniest stutter, and
I tried to write it down because the word what
he's trying to say is no, you said chicken. But
what it comes out is he goes, no, you chicken again,
and like, I don't know, you can't write that in
a script. That's just an actor coming up with something funny.
It was hilarious.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
He's been around for years.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
He's that character actor guy who just pops up and
he slays every time you see him.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
He's got such a dry sense of humor that is
innately watchable.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
There is this there is this type of really funny actor.
They're often called the character actors that like Fred that
can that and Bill would hire lots of them on
the show over the years, and he jokingly would call
him his assassins. And Bob Pundennen is another one. And
they would just come on and they would have like
a few lines, but everything they said was was and uh.

(41:01):
And I just want to say to Fred and anyone
who knows Fred, every single thing you said on this
episode made us laugh.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, he came back to later on, not you know,
seasons later.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Actually I thought he would be somebody who would come
back into the hospital over and over again.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I think, yeah, when this was, when this episode was done,
I remember telling Bill like, you got to have that
guy back, you got to have him. Yeah, he should
be a regular. He's hilarious.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
He was really funny.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, I agree on the treadmill. Yeah, oh god one,
you look great.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
You got that young you got that young body where
the shoulders haven't really caught up yet.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
You know what I mean, where they're like huge, your
shoulders like so high and everything.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
You know what I'm talking about. When you're like a baby,
you know what you're talking about, you start growing lats
and ship.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Anyway, Uh, when making that the fall, was that you?
Or was that the same question asking you to do it?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
The fall was me? I was.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
I was terrified about this.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
This was the scene in the script that had me
the most nervous, and for ridiculous reasons, Like there is
something about watching people run on screen that you can
look the gate, your gate. You can look like an idiot,
or you can look okay. You know, like if you
you see people run on screen, you're like, that's a
weird run. That's it, and it's it's quick and easy

(42:19):
to judge. So I was very nervous about that. But
I also felt that the here far be it from
me to be a writer, but I felt that the
scene needed like a button at the end. It didn't.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
It didn't come together quite right.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
And I remember the first time I thought about doing it,
and in the scene I just halfway through the first
take I decided to do it, and everyone flipped out.

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Like we didn't even like, They're.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Like, are you okay? Oh my god, what happened?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Guys?

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Can we get a medican here?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Someone?

Speaker 5 (42:45):
I was like, no, no, no, no, it was a bit.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
It was a bit. Guy. That's pretty courageous of you
to do a unscheduled, almost proudfall on a treadmill running.
That's advanced, Scott, Thank.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
You, my friend.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Well, I pride myself on physical comedy, although I never
get to do it my wife sichem at home and
my wife is sick of it.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
But it was.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
It was Unfortunately they liked it after they calmed down
and I had to do it, you know, seven more times.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Right, Well, good thing you survived. I liked it because
you were such a good ying yang for Sarah, because
you're both sort of goofy and nervous and neurotic, and
it was just so she's doing all this ridiculous stuff
and you're seemingly holding it together, and then she looks
away and you trip on the treadmill. I thought that

(43:31):
was really funny.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
Thanks man. It was.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
You know, finding it's always a hard thing when you
first come onto a show. Even even though you guys
were in your first season New this is the twentieth episode.
So to try to establish a character amongst all these
other characters is a really hard.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Thing to do.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
And Sarah and I talked about it a bit, and
you know, I think what we came up with for
Sean and worked ultimately. You know, he got a little
more confident as the show went on and his episodes
got there. But it was fun playing the sort of nervous, neurotic,
uh somewhat insecure kid. It was really interesting.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Yeah, you're your your character arc throughout the show is
It's really it's very interesting because you do start off,
you and Sarah are pretty much the same character. You're
just the male version of her. And then all of
a sudden you develop this confidence, right, and then you
lose this confidence all of a sudden when she breaks
up with you out of nowhere, you know, when you
grow the beard and.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
And and he forelearnly rides a dolphin.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
They had me doing some strange things, which I hope
we get to talk about in future episodes.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Look at where I am inviting myself over.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
You know, absolutely, Scott, you are so good for our
ratings that we are back. I hope you'll come back
on episodes you have nothing to do with.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
I would love to just to make fun of people.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Know we're already you're you're we're already inviting you back
because we have to talk about SeaWorld. Uh and uh
oh yeah. I would like to say that I know
longer support SeaWorld, but at the time we were happy
to go to the Sea World.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
I remember being so pissed off because I couldn't go.
None of my scenes were at sea World. So let
me get straight, Let me get to straight. Y'all are
all going to San Diego to hang out for a
night in San Diego and ride dolphins and I got
to stay back at the mofucking hospital.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Was I was so pissed.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
It was so fun. But this was all before we
all saw the documentary Blackfish, and yes, and now we don't.
We don't go there anymore, and now we encourage people
to not go there anymore. But before we were all h.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Before we knew, before we knew, before we.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Were animal woke and Scott, you you did get to
forlornly ride a dolphin, which is one of the coolest
things anyone could ever do in their career.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
The things that I got to do on this show
were still some of the highlights of my career. I mean,
between riding on the dolphin, doing this Betty the seal bit.
I don't know if you remember this, but I had
like a phone call with Sarah and I turned my
head in this steal turns his head towards me, and
I look away like it sticks his tongue out of me.

(46:03):
I've got to be like a like damn close to
a killer whale and a beluga whale. And it was
a it was a really amazing experience, and I'll never
forget it.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Think how sad that whale was, Scott while you were
acting with it.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
It didn't let on, you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Get mail for that one. We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Scott's I had no idea.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
I did not know.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
I didn't say a damn thing. I would have been.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I would have had his Listen, we're trying to buy
it back with some karma now by saying don't support
it any longer. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
There you go boy.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
All right, let's talk about let's talk about when he goes.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
I love when he goes.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
What are you eight eleven? Uh with with with Hoffner?
I go He goes, what are you serving for dinner
the night? And I go, that's that's not really my area.
He goes, I'd like chicken.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
That guy was great.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He just chicken, chicken, chicken.

Speaker 6 (47:04):
So I was I don't know where.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
I don't know where in the show that is, But
I want to talk for a second about you two
singing on the fire escape. Yeah, which was a I
loved it, and I love the musical theater references, and
those are something that find a home throughout the life
of this television show. But the smile that you had
on your face, Zach, you were unable to hide, made

(47:30):
me rewind it two or three times to be like,
is he just smiling because he's singing or Scot? No, no, no,
he can't hold back his laugher.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Scott, I had a Phantom of the opera beach towel
hung on my wall as a child. I'm very aware
this was me living my best life.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
It was someone your Seinfeld moment, someone your Seinfeld moment,
unable to hide your smile.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Someone was paying me well to hold donald and sing
musical theater to him. I was like, how could life
get better than this?

Speaker 5 (47:58):
It was fantastic.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
And I appreciated you not being able to contain your.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Life show getting a getting a lead in a TV
show was was enough. Now you're letting me sing a
love song to Donald on a fire escape.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Come on.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
It was great. And by the way, the way you
guys did the dancing in the hallway, everybody looked professional.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Was going everyone well, obviously everyone that wasn't the lead
was a dancer.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
And the best I've ever seen Sarah dance.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Also, to me, Sarah can dance, Sarah. She can't sing,
but she can dance.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Dude, she was on fire and this ship, Dude, like
I've seen Sarah dance, and Sarah dances like you know,
Sarah Dan.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I'm not gonna Dan. She knows Sarah dances like she dances.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, she knows her. She has her little thing she does,
which was agnorable. But she she was doing like full
on you know, Broadway choreography.

Speaker 8 (48:52):
Yeah, dude, yes he was.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
But Rob Mahio, Rob Mascio, did you know? I wonder
if Rob Mashio ever did musical theater. I bet he did.
I bet he did.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
We should have a section where we go to Rob.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
This is a Bill Lawrence question.

Speaker 8 (49:07):
No, we should go to.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Rob and now we go to Rob.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
No, he's like a correspondent, Rob.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, going to Rob live. Rob is a very successful
realtor now at the beach. Scott. I don't know if
you know that. So when you're ready to buy your
beach house, you better use Rob Mashio.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
I'm not going to be ready to buy my beach
house for a while, but I'll use him when I do.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Yes, I encourage anyone. We always like to give Rob shoutouts.
You can get Rob on cameo and you can pay
him a nominal fee to send you a video where
he high fives your friends. So go on cameo and
hire Rob Mashio. And of course, if you're looking for
real estate on the West side of Los Angeles, we
encourage you to hire him.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
I'd like to go on cameo and have him and
pay him whatever it costs just to watch him run line.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
By the way, Scott, I'm gonna I don't know what's
your birthday, I'm going to send you a cameo from Rob.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Oh, that's great, July fifteenth, that's coming on.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope Rob will
give it to me for free, but if not, I'm
willing no no, no cameo makes you pay, Okay, I'm
gonna donald. Don't you think we should hire Rob to
give sent Scott Follia a high five cameo?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I think that would be the best thing ever. And
if you have to share it too.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
You know you can get Really my brother loves baseball
more than anything, and they have like old school you know,
they have sports players. Is that what you call them? Sports?
Sports players, sports people?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Sure, athletes?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
They have athletes, athletes, sports players. They have famous sports
players and uh and.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Ball and bad guys.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
But some of them are like I don't know if
you like Lenny Dykestraw, don't know if you've heard Lenny
Dykes strown Ward Stern lately, but he's you know, he's
gotten a little wacky. And I was thinking about getting
Lenny Dykster from my brother to like send him a message.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Are you guys on that you do cameo?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I'm not on there, but I I occasionally scroll it
because there's some people that I think would be very
funny to hire for other people. Yeah, and uh, and
so I've I've thought about it, but like, like I
saw Olivia Wilde. I follow on Instagram and I'm friends
with her, and she she loved that that documentary Cheer.
I don't know if you saw Cheer, yes, but one

(51:15):
of her friends hired all the kids, all the kids
from Cheer are on there, hired every single one of
them to send her birthday messages, and so for her
feed on her birthday was all the kids from Cheers
sending her birthday messages. I thought that was that's so cool.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
That's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
So there you go, gift, It's a great gift idea.
There you go. I'm giving I'm giving Cameo a shout out.
Although Donald and I are not on there.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Have you guys, Have you guys ever met anyone that's
as competitive as these guys are on the show that
just you know, uh, you are competent.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
You think I'm competitive, not in life, but sports wise,
you are when it comes to.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
The day, when it comes to playing sports against anyone,
absolutely regardless of what it is, I want to win.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You're absolutely.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Wait, I don't know, I don't know anybody in life
that's like that, other than Bill Lawrence. I was gonna
say Bil Laura, but other than Bill Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Bill is the most competitive person I know in real life.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Where you where it's like you can't walk, don't walk
faster than him, or he's gonna think it's a race.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, this is probab. Why it's in the scripts because.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
We have I have a funny Bill Lawrence walking story.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
We were in We took a trip from Progue when
we were shoot Whiskey Cavalier over to Amsterdam. And if
you guys have never been there, it's a huge bicycle culture, right,
everyone rides bikes around.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
So we're walking down the sidewalks and.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Wherever you wherever you are, you're inundated with these bicycle
bells ringing constantly telling you to get out of the way,
and you don't know where they're coming from, and you're
looking behind you and you're always stepping off trying to
get out of the way.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
And we were walking down and there was nobody around us.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
It had to be two in the morning. We've just
seen a raiding concert in Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
At every show episode.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Shout out my wife was he you know.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Bill was like, We're gonna go fly to Amsterdam and
go see him, and he does this song and my
wife is like, oh, my god, yea to sing only you.
So of course in the middle of this thing, he's
like and for Marika, only you, and she's like tearing up.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
I'm like, I think he's making fun of you.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Baby.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
He doesn't want to sing the song.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
But we're we're walking back to the hotel and there's
you know, it's dead, it's two in the morning, and
there are all these bikes parked along. Nobody's riding bikes,
but they're all sort of chained up along the sidewalk.
And we're walking. Bill's a couple uh steps ahead of
me and I ring one of these locked up bike's bells.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
He damn near went to his knees.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
He was so afraid.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
He was such a PTSD.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I've never seen Bill.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Like, oh God like he.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
I don't think he'll ever go back to Amsterdam.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Because.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
All right, we went to Amsterdam together.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, Donald and I went to Amscham together.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh that was dangerous.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah. I don't know if we can tell any of
those stories.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I don't think we can.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
I know they want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
We had some good time in Amstam. Did you guys
have a good time in Amsterdam? It was the best,
the best, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I mean it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't like that kind
of good time because we were sort of I was
with work people, I know, but it was that kind
of good time.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, tried God's let Us and it was delicious.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
Oh Jesus, they got you didn't have one of those,
one of those.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
This was before God's let Us. This is before God's
let Us was legal in California. We were really Yeah,
they really like it over there, you know.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
Now we had it was a moon pie or there's
something like that over there that you eat and it
just wrecks you.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I wish, I mean, I wish.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
I would have known.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
This is a real show. Now we're not just two
guys doing this out of their closets. We have to
go to advertisers. Will be right, We'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
We're back.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I'm looking at I'm looking at both Scott Fully and
Donald Faison in their closets. Scott's has to continually wave
his arm to make his lights go. I wish we
were recording the video of this because it would be
the light.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
We'll start putting them out. We'll start putting one, all right,
bring them in.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Joelle and uh Dana just the mic for Donald's Oprah introduction,
because you know it can get loud.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Donald, please adjust your mic for the Okay, I'll back
up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
It's okay. Worried about it? No, he's ready. He's a professional. Donald.
Here comes Jenny.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jenny Pulster.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I think it's Pulston. Is it Puleston?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Jenny, Yes, that's correct, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Hi, Jenny, welcome to Fake Doctor's Real Friends. You picked
a very good day to be on because we have
a very funny and handsome guest named Scott Foley. You
might know him from the show Scandal, Felicity, Whiskey, fox Trot.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Scrub Whiskey cavalier.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Jenny, Sorry, Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott, do not flirt with Jenny. Okay,
this is our god.

Speaker 6 (56:03):
She's there, got all the flags behind her. She looks fantastic.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Jenny, are you where are you calling in from?

Speaker 5 (56:08):
So?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I live in.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
Canberra, Australia. Canberra is the capital city of my fine
country on.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
The West coast.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yes it is Scott. Scott's showing off that he knows
it's on the West Coast.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
I lived in Australia. Jenny, I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Wait, when did you live in Australia as a kid.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
I lived in Sydney for four years and snives Sydney.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Is it near? Is it near Perth?

Speaker 5 (56:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Okay Jesus, but it's near Melbourne.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
No.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Well, Sitney is near Melbourne closer, but.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
No, it's on the west coast of Australia. This is
so embarrassing to I want. I want everyone to know
that the American public school system spends very little time
on geography. I think it was like two weeks in
seventh grade or Australia. Yes, yes, Jenny, thank you for
coming on the show. Do you have a question for
for any of us? You can ask us anything, ask

(56:59):
us anything. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
I just wanted to say I started watching your show
when I was in my early twenties, like you guys were,
and it really resonated with me. Then I just started
my career. I had a mentor you know, learning to
do things on your own without a safety net. And
then I watched the series again a few years later
when I had my children and they were babies and

(57:23):
I was up at the night, I put it on
and certain episodes resonated in a different way because I
was a parent and researched every school holidays and there's
something new that pops up that's, you know, based on
an experience that I've just had. It just makes me
think of, you know, something different. So I just wanted

(57:43):
to know, with your experience of the last twenty years,
what advice would you give to your younger selves?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Now, Oh, man, you mean I mean us as real
people are our characters?

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
No people, oh, real people.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
While while making the show, I wish I could have
been more present, you know what I mean. I hate
to jump in front of you, Scott, but I got
to get to this right away.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, I was so not there.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Let's say, when we were making that, I was very
much worried about being out and about I was more
interested in what came with what came after work than
what came with work back when we were making Scrubs,
And I wish I could have been more present at
when it came to doing my job back then. That's

(58:34):
the one thing that I look back and say, you
know what, I know, I know I had fun and
I know I enjoyed myself.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I wish I could have experienced all of that while
making it.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, my reaction is similar in a sense that you know,
I think we took it for granted that this would
happen all the time. That is to say that, you know,
we've spoken this on other podcasts before, that these really
special friendships would would be on every job we did.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
And and.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
I think, and we've discussed before, you know how we've
all gone on and done these other jobs, and some
are successful, some er not, but still to this day,
the bond that we all had that comes across on
the screen. I think it's the reason people really. One
of the reasons, of course, the writing first and foremost,
but another reason was that the love that you see

(59:21):
between these characters was real.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
It was.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
We're watching people who genuinely cared as much about each
other in real life as they did as the characters
did on screen. So I think that I think I
took that for granted. I was a young actor. This
is my first big job, and I thought, oh, this
is what it's always like to be on a set.
Everyone loves each other, everyone wants to hang out on
weekends even after we've worked all these days, and oh

(59:47):
my god, the scripts are always hilarious, and it took
so many years to be like, oh no, this is
a diamond in the rough. Not only the writing staff
that Bill assembled was just the dream team. I mean
they've all gone off to be usually successful on their
own right, but but also just the bond that that
the seven main characters of Us had was something I

(01:00:09):
haven't really ever seen again, whether I'm an actor or
a director. It's just it was just so rare. So
that's what I think too. It's a similar answer to Donald.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Now Scott's been on three, in my opinion, three very
successful shows.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I'm interested to hear how he might not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
He might not have an answer related to ours though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Not to ours. But yeah, but I'm interested in hearing
if it was like that for each one of those successes,
you know what I mean, Like Felicity, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
I think, just directly answering your question, I think I
for me, looking back, if I had to do it again,
I would I would try to relax. I think I
was holding on really tight. It was very important to me.
I didn't I didn't go to college, I didn't want
to do anything else. This was my only shot.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
Really, like if I wasn't going to be a working actor.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Be digging holes. You know, I don't know what else
I'd do, So I was. I was really uptight and
nervous about making sure I got it right and and
really focused on work.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
And I think, I, uh, if I had to do
it again, I'd take a breather and be more like Donald,
but not not that far.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Not that far, but you know what I mean, Like
we were.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
I was young and wanted to be successful and was
working towards a goal. But you know, at a certain
point you got to sort of stop and smell the
flowers too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Did you guys all get along on Scandal?

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
We did? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
I was hoping that I was hoping to get some
clickbait going, here's gotting?

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
No, man, I've been I was looking for ever since
I'd done Scrubs.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
I was looking for a show that had a similar vibe,
a similar friendship, not just in front of the camera
but behind it. And I found it on Scandal, and
we still keep in touch. I get texts where I
have a group chain, group text chain, I get something
multiple things daily.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Uh, we vacation together?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Could I join that?

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
Texts?

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Scott, if you have something to offer, I'd love.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Do you know I have a long history with Tony
Goldman and I know you do, yes, And I'm I
love that man a lot, and he directed a movie
I was in called The Last Kiss, and we've stayed
friendly over the years, and I just think he's a
very very special human being. I wish he was the
real present.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I wish he was the real I think we all
wish someone else was the real president right now. Sorry, Jenny,
that's not what you're right, that's what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You don't have to bring an Australian into our political situation. Jenny,
Do you have another question for any of us?

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
Yes, I do, because I want to look at for
my fellow Australians. I just want to ask, why do
you think doctor Cox takes two Jackman?

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
You know, this is a question that's been asked so
often and we never answered it. I think we're going
to throw it to Bill. But my theory is that Cox,
who was such an alpha competitive guy, was jealous because
at the time Hugh Jackman when we were making the show.
It was right at the time with Hugh Jackman exploding
and becoming a megastar who was not just your average megastar.

(01:03:10):
He was doing everything. He could see it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Everything he could see it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
He could dance, he could host award shows, he could
be an action star, he could be a dramatic star.
He was you know, it was he was everywhere and
he was doing everything, and everyone liked him. It wasn't
like you know, a lot of stars become polarizing. He
wasn't everybody. Everybody loved him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
This dude could this dude could host the Tony's and
then stamp somebody up as Wolverine Man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
It was like it was like just one eight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So I think, Jenny, that's my guess is that Cox
was the character of Cox was jealous of this handsome,
you know, muscular man who could do anything and everything
and people just loved him and adored him, and so
he was jealous of him. But let's ask Bill. That's
a good ask Bill, Bill. The fans have been asking
for many years, and now a very nice woman from

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Australia has asked, and we just have to get the answer.
Why does doctor Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much? Look,
we love Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
When we were trying to come up with who doctor
Cox hated, for no reason. I think we thought it
was important that we came up with somebody that everybody
loved and that could do everything. I mean, who has
anything against Hugh Jackman. He's Wolverine. You know, he's in
action movies.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
He's apparently a lovely guy.

Speaker 10 (01:04:23):
He's handsome, he's like People Magazine's sexiest person. He can sing,
he can dance, you know, five six seven eight, slaid
that one in, he starred in the music Man on Broadway,
and that Peter Allen thing. He's just too damn talented.
My buddy Scott Foley, is there, Scott, torture them, Jenny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I hope that worked for you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yes, five six seven eight? No, no, no, no, you
know what, most people only Bill usually gets the song
when he says it. But because Scott so darn charming,
Dan hit the button again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
He couldn't control them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Let me, let me control my own tiny little universe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Please, Jimmy, I'm going to give you one more question.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
The third question.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
Uh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
My other question was was your proudest moment from being
on the show your performance?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Oh wow, I really enjoyed doing the musical theater. Uh,
the the musical episode. I had a lot of fun
doing that. Growing up, I did a lot of musical theater,
but not at that scope or that level, and a
lot of the people that you know, we're in scrubs
the musical I saw later on in La La Land
or whatever, and that made me feel really good, Like,

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you know, I danced with some of the some of
LA's best dancers and stuff like that, and got to
perform with some of LA's best and you know, as
you know, anybody comes here to make it in the industry,
and it felt good to be amongst Hollywood's elite dancers
and being able to dance with them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I really enjoyed that. I'm very proud that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I was going to do that. Yeah, I think I'm
proud of that episode too, and also I'm really proud
of you know, it was a really underappreciated I think,
but we did this sort of Princess Briane homage episode
that was the fantasies and sort of a medieval thing,
and it kind of it was I believe it was
during the rer Strike season and the season ended early

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and we didn't know if the show was coming back,
and it was. It was sort of presented as the
season finale and possibly a series finale, because no one
knew if we were coming back, and so it kind
of got treated like, oh, what does that have to
do with Scrubs or ending the show? And but I
really am proud of the directing work I did on it,
and uh, and I think it looks really pretty and

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and it was a huge scale for for some sales.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Scope was huge.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah, it was. It was big, and we spent a
lot of money and I think it looked like it
and a lot of people worked very hard on it.
And then it sort of got underappreciated because people were like,
please tell me, that's not the series finale, and I
was like, no one meant that that was the series finale.
But I thought that was good.

Speaker 9 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I loved that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I remember, thank you, thank you, Jenny. All Right, we
have to move on, but thank you so much for
coming on the show, Scott, do you want to say
anything Jenny thank her for coming on.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
I'd like to thank you for coming on the show too, Jenny.
I hope forgive me for getting into this, but I
hope everything's everyone's okay now that you guys have those
terrible fires, and we were all sort of thinking about
you over over on the side of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
So I'm glad you guys are better.

Speaker 9 (01:07:43):
Yeah, it's been a big, very difficult year, but yeah,
we're all getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Scott's message was nicer than mine, so I would like
to say that I hope everything's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
That's what we call a callback choke. Everybody, all right?

Speaker 8 (01:07:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Jenny, Thanks on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Yah, thanks so much. Very sweet, very very sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (01:08:07):
J D is a rat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Hold up, let's get into this. JD is a little beach.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
He's a rat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
He is a rat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I tell you though, how funny is that fantasy with
me on Johnny's lap?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
It's but you are a blue hat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
He goes, Who's he goes, who's my big boy?

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:08:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I love that. I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
They show you the two the two sides of you know,
when something bad happens, they show you the two sides.
They show you the one that runs right to the
principle and it's like and and cries to the principal,
oh my god, and he did this. And then they
show the other person who runs to the principal and
freaking tells the principal off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
John C's character. Cox is the dad that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Goes to the school and beats up the bully for
fucking with his kid. You know what I mean, twelve
year old boy fucking with his son. Oh, you're gonna
touch my son like that? How about this? Go tell
your dad, don't tell your dad that doctor Cox smack
the shit out of you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
And it goes, it goes south.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
But it was very interesting to watch the two dynamics,
like one guy, one guy is a complete rat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yeah, and the o's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
I didn't even see that. I didn't even see that
interpretation of it. But that's smart that that is exactly
what happens. It's it's the two sides of a coin
of how you deal with the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah, anyway, why.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Would why would Turk even promise to side with me?
I mean, he's a really good doctor. We know that
he's not gonna go not not It's almost ridiculous that
he would even say, Yeah, don't worry, ILL back you up.
He's gonna come in and give his honest analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Right. Well, I think he was.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
I think Turk was trusting, Uh, the fact that you
had done your job and you know, you were literally
calling him in for a faber. Yo, just just tell
this dude that he doesn't have anything to worry about.
And then when Turk looked at it like bulls wait,
hold on, hold on, wait right, you gotta you got.
I look at it like, you know, if there's any

(01:10:06):
if there's a slight chance that Turk gets the opportunity
to operate, he's gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna operate, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I mean, I think that's the real thing. Obviously taken
from Obviously this is all inspired by what we were
told by real doctors, that the surgeons are more apt
to be like, let's cut him up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, let's get it out, let's do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
It, let's do our let's do our thing. And I
love uh at twelve fifteen when when when the janitor
is giving my patient advice and he's like, I'm gonna
go with surgery, and I go, he's a janitor and
he goes, but he seems confident. Again, the guy did
not say a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Sentence, but I didn't laugh out loud at he was
very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
How about Sarah all dolled up for Scott Foley at
thirteen forty five?

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
Beautiful? How lucky was I in my stupid big overcoat.
But your jacket, your.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Jacket eleven size is too big?

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:10:57):
Did you not have a fitting?

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Do you remember?

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
It was like that jacket only the only thing I
could talk it up to was that was just the
what people were wearing back then.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
But it seemed really big.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
That was huge, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
It was the Harmani baggy look back then.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I don't know, do you really think it was style
or just fit wrong? Because you're you're you're supposed to
be playing this like heart throb, and and there there
you are. I mean, you should be looking like in
a nice outfit.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
I have to think it's it was style or else someone.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
I mean there's you know, no less than three people,
but maybe thirty people on set who should be like, hey,
he looks really stupid in that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Then it must have been it must have been the
st the style, the style, because that jacket would it
came down to your knees almost, and.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
It was huge and it was like a doctor's smock.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
He's a monster, just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Well, I thought Sarah looked h beautiful moment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
And then I think she looked beautiful even after her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I know, even with a U. And it was so funny.
She's covered with little puke and blood and poop.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
Yeah, yep, they did a really good job with her.
And that was it was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
And then you guys filming, you guys, you guys get
into that really funny, awkward poop conversation. Yeah, they cut,
they cut to Judy. It's so funny because you guys
are awkwardly flirting about poop and you cut the Judy's
dead pan face.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Well then, you know, and then right after that, there's
a there's a great moment where the nurse has like,
you know, uh, Sarah and Judy are talking. You know,
I don't think anybody noticed. It's not a big deal.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
And then one of the nurses walk by and says, hey, poopy,
which I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Was just hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Helo, Yes, I'm really I'm really noticing it all these
years later that many of Aloma's lines are moving. She's
always walking, always on the move, Hey poopy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
That we slaugh her into someone else's shot.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
But that was very funny to you, your whole conversation
on how you took a poop not here but not
here before but before earlier, I was down there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
I think, you know, we we we delve into their
relationship for in other episodes, but I think that's really
the foundation for them.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
You know, poop is the foundation. It's a house built
on poop.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
It Well, you know, the relationship didn't last long, and
we know poop is not a plot.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Founder depends on what you had.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
They should not have built their house on a foundation
of poop. What about fourteen twenty when the jenitmor goes, look,
I'm just a jender. I don't know, but I know
that you need surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
How did he get in that room? How he.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Was that the was that the beginning of the speech
where at the end of it he grabs a newspaper
and goes back into the toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Uh no, that's a different that's that was geez.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
That's before he starts going like, that's the that's the
last moment with my patient. But then yeah, we then
we cut around to him going to all of my
patients around the entire hospital telling them they all need surgery.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
You have ye that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It's hilarious and Neil's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
That I'm having surgery right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Oh that was that was great. I'm having surgery and
I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
And I'm loving it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
It's a bizarre infomercial.

Speaker 8 (01:14:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Then Donald, what do you say, Let's get you out
of your skin, skin, Let's cut you out to your skin.
I'm having that. Girl did a great job. I'm having
surgery right now and loving it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:24):
You know, the writers always have always done a good
job on this show of finding really subtle gender specific
moments that there's something that and I think Bill takes
a lot of it from Christa. You know, there's moments
where he's like, there was a character at one point
in the show, I don't remember what season it was,
but a woman talks about chewing on her thumbnail until

(01:14:44):
it bleeds at the side of her thumbtail bleeds, which
is a very specific sort.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
Of woman thing.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
And there was a moment in here where Judy says,
you know, I'm not sure there's a cat heaven, like
I don't tell Church. I sometimes cry becase I'm not
sure there's a cat heaven. Like I thought that was
a genius, really subtle gender specific moment by the real
this period of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
What you're saying, Scott. Then they cut to Sarah and
the looks on her face is like, there's no cat heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
What do you mean there's no cat heaven.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
It's a really really it's a really subtle moment, but
they cut to Sarah's face as though she's just heard,
like for the first time there's no cat heaven, like
she's just had Santa Claus.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Room for her.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
I thought it was great, man, I thought it was
really smart, and Judi delivered it beautifully. The amount of
times I'll run into my wife and be like, Hey,
why are you crying, She's like, never mind, and you
know it's because she's not sure if there's a cat heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Something ridiculous like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
At seventeen twenty one, Sarah bumps into Colonel Doctor and
I just was exciting because you know, Colonel Doctor didn't
always get a lot of foreground time, but he got
a little foreground moment Coleman's Law.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
I didn't I didn't even see that. That went completely
over my head. I missed that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, it's even in the Scrubs wiki, and I love
about We call him Colonel Doctor because that's what we
thought his name was, but because it's eventually revealed that
his name is Coleman's Law. It says in the Scrubs Wiki,
like Sarah bumps into Coleman's Law.

Speaker 8 (01:16:18):
The Scrubs Wiggy, the Scrubs Maggie is so is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
So accurate that they call Colonel doctor coleman slaws law.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
At twenty thirty five, the patient in bed is Richard Wells. Yes,
are very He was our best first AD.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
First AD and UPM.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Also he went on to be r U p M
later on when Scott Harris and uh, that's right, Franklin
got better to we should.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Say for those for those of you who don't know,
a first AD, a first assistant director is the man
or woman who was sort of running the set making
sort of the one calling out saying, okay, here we go,
we gotta move. Really you think of it in theater,
the stage manager but keeping everyone moving along uh and uh,
and sort of the team leader. So the director can
ideally focus on the creative aspects of things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Well, the first idea is usually the bad guy. Let's
just put it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
The first idea is the one that you come to
with all the problems you don't necessarily gore.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Yes, well, Richard Wells was so great at his job,
and one of the best first ads I've ever worked with.
And and I forgot that he did a cameo and
here he is as one of my patients that finally
finally says he'll he'll go the medical route, solely because
the janitor has told him so at the end of
the episode.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Also, also, Richard Wells directed a few episodes of Scrubs. Also, uh,
he did a lot on the show. He wasn't just
the ad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah. I was bummed though when he when he decided
to become a UPM and he was no longer on set, because.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Can I ask you a question, Yes, what is a UPM?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
A UPM is a production manager unit production manager, handling
the organization of everything the un up If you need
a crane, the UPM is the one often calling the
rental house and saying, we need a crane on Tuesday.
Who's bringing it? Timmy and John the line producer kind
of underneath the line producer, organizing anything and everything that
the nuts and bolts of a production. Scott, you switched

(01:18:16):
to eating, I see.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
Well, I switched to my damn things runn out of
batteries and I can't hear a fucking thing now.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
But yeah, it's my anniversary.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
So my wife made me these things, and I got
to eat him before I come out of my closet,
unless she's gonna say, like.

Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
Why didn't you eat the cookie I made you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
How many years? How many?

Speaker 6 (01:18:32):
Thanks so much?

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
Thirteen years?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Oh my good thirteen years. Wow?

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Yeah, wow, yeah, sorry, that's great. And I was excited.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
You know, I thought I could just listen to your
explanation of line producer versus UPM and no one would notice.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
But I forgot that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
I'm sure everyone tuned out when I started describing a UPM.
All right, listen, we did it as uh as Howard
Stern says, we've said it all. This has been really fun, Scott.
Did you have a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
I loved being here.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
I love seeing your faces. Uh, you know, we haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
We haven't had the chance to see too many people recently,
so it meant a lot to me, and it uh,
it has meant a lot to me to be a
bit a part of this have been a part of
this show. I look back fondly on it and consider
both of you good friends of mine. So I appreciate
you having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Well we miss you, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I gotta thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Yeah, I miss you man I I uh, I gotta
tell you. You know, we talk about it all the time.
I ran in the chip at vote voting, Uh, Jeff
bur Yeah and uh and I was like, you know,
we gotta we gotta get together again. This was I
thought this was back when we thought this pandemic would
last about a month and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
And it's uh. You know, I'd love to get out
and play golf with you again once this is all
said and done. Many we'll find the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Time to watch. I'd love to watch you defeat Bill
and tennis if possible.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
Well, if we'll find out when he's injured, and then
we'll go out and play.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Because I can't. Because I can't beat Bill in any sports.
I often try and find people that can beat him
so I can just watch.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
I'm game. Hey, you know I wanted to talk about
and I don't know if you remember this before we go.
You know, Donald and I have had the chance to
work together, not just on a bunch of things, but
you and I aside from Scrubs, and this is something
I regret very much after doing. I don't know, however,
I met two or three episodes in the first season.
You wrote a short film about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Robots, maybe probably I love robots.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
And you sent me the script and I was busy
doing something else, so I couldn't do it. But I've
always regretted not being able to work with you as
a director on something you wrote, and that was that.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
There's still something I look back on. I totally remember it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
It was a I can't remember that. I vaguely remember
it too. I was trying to start directing things because
I had gone to film school and I was and
I was doing scrubs and it was so amazing. But
of course in my mind as a as a young
go getter, was thinking I gotta start making stuff. And
I wrote that a wacky short, and I asked you
to be in it. But thank you for almost saying yes. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
I absolutely would have said yes if I wasn't able to.
But I look, I love both you guys, and we'll
hopefully work with you until we die on different things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
I mean a really cool short film recently Scott that
you should check out. It's called In the Time It
Takes to Get There. And I guess I've taken this
opportunity to give a shout out to that short. So
if you're listening to this, check it out.

Speaker 6 (01:21:21):
It's got in the time it takes to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah, it's got Alisa Silverstone, Donald's old co star, and
it's got Florence Pugh, the very exciting young actress Oscar nominee,
and it's really good and it's on YouTube and you
can go watch it. It was Adobe had this contest
where people college kids could design a movie poster, and

(01:21:43):
the winning movie poster design using photoshop. The prize was
that I would write and direct a short film inspired
by the movie poster.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Oh yes, you know, I saw an article about that.
Anytime I see you guys' names in any sort of press,
I check it out. And I saw an article about this,
so I will definitely check it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Check it out. I recently want a webby for it,
which is a which is a cool web award. But
check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Nobody cares, Zach, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Yeah, anybody could see Donald's face when he says that
right now, I wish his hands on his head.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I wish everyone could see my face right now, because
I've successfully feel sad.

Speaker 6 (01:22:24):
You're not, but you look like you're sitting underneath it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
The way I want you to know that I knew
everybody listening would be like, oh, I can't wait for
him to say nobody cares Sean. I'm the only one
in this You've said it multiple times, Donald Has, I'm
the only one who never said.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Those nobody cares Zach Well.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
The problem is you said them to begin with, and
not a day goes by where someone either personally or
on social media doesn't comment or say nobody. I mean,
I could say happy birthday to my lovely wife of
thirteen years or happy anniversary of thirteen years, and I'll
get six nobody cares Sean's well, and it makes me

(01:23:01):
equally happy and fucking irate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
All Right, I get it, man. Well, listen, we have
Bill was saying five six seven eight on this podcast,
and I post something on on Instagram and every other
comment is five to six seven eight.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
Well, I mean you were You texted me are you
ready to come on? And I think I just wrote
back five six seven eight and your response was like, yeah, Okay,
we get it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Listen, guys, you've gone an hour and a half. Uh,
this has been amazing. We love the fans, Thank you
for listening. We hope we're making you laugh a little
in these crazy times. That's our hope. You can email
questions to scrubs iHeart at gmail dot com. Please follow
Donald on Instagram. He's very envious of the amount of
followers I have.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Dude, you have like one million, one point three million Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Yeah you guys, I have six hundred thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Well, listen to Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I follow you on Instagram by thanks man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
It's you can follow Scott Foley too and look at
how handsome he is. And that's it. We love you.
See you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Just these stories that show we made about a bunch
of talks and nurses in the janitor Hulking.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
I said, here's the stories next.

Speaker 5 (01:24:13):
All should know.

Speaker 7 (01:24:16):
So gadder round you, here, our gatherer around you. Here
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