2023: My Controversy Noted with Pete Holmes

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo yo, yo yo, YoY.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The dato.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I raised off a FaceTime with Krista Miller, who called
me solely to tell me how much she loved our
Andy Ramage episode Yay. She said it was incredible and informative.
I wonder if you guys have heard any good vibrations
from it. But people really liked it, at least anecdotally.

(00:27):
My friend liked it.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's been very positive out there, people really loving it.
I would like to see if you guys take the challenge,
let us know how it goes. I was a little inspired.
I went out for my birthday and was like, you
know what, I'm going to do some of these non
alcoholic drinks and to see what that's not. And they
were fine and delicious and I didn't miss drinking, So,
you know, might pick up the challenge me do it?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, give it a try. I guarantee you. The only
thing I can tell you is you might not be
You might listen to that and go interesting. Not for me,
But if you just do a month just for just
as an experiment, I guarantee you you will feel good
on day thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Nice, nice little recap of our last couple of episodes, right.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
There, Yes, and Vaginas. Vagina's was popular, right, Joell, Vagina's was.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Very popular, as always, historically very.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Popular, historically very popular. Did you get any good feedback
about Vagina's.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Joelle, only that it was hilarious, people spinning up drinks,
having to pull over in their car.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's when the people were very really, very much.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, and I was like I had to pull over
so that I could see because I was laughing so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I love that these are your reviews, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, please let us know what you like. Donald and
I don't aren't on Twitter and we barely read Instagram anymore,
so we need feedback. So give it to Joel and
Dale who are on every social media and let them know. Right, Yeah,
we're here for it. Donald, I've been building the land
Rover Defender Lego structure you gave me. It's amazing. It's

(02:06):
coming along for your birthday. Yes, for those of you
don't know, it's eighteen plus. It's very hard. I forgot
that Legos had age had eight restrictions.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's Lego, It's Lego.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Don't get them started leg Lego. That Lego sets had
eight restrictions.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I was trying to brag to my assistant that it
was kind of hard, and he goes, well, it says
in the box eighteen plus, and I'm like, eighteen plus.
I mean, it's it's tricky, but I feel like a
fifteen year old. Eighteen plus felt a little bit extreme,
Like I think, I don't think there was any reason
why fifteen year olds couldn't.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But then you ran into your first roadblock, and you lie, I've.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Run into so many roadblocks, and you know, it's funny.
You know what's funny. I don't know if you do
this with Lego singular, but you get to a certain
point where you look and you realize you fuck something up.
But it's such a fucking ordeal to take it apart
and you just go fuck it. There's this Olivia Ririgo
news song where she goes, fuck it, it's fine, And
I keep thinking when I noticed a fuck up that

(03:06):
I go fuck it. It's fine. Little things you wouldn't
no one's gonna notice.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Daniel. It's like, you have any news you want to.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh, yeah, Dan, I'll tell the audience it has been
a minute since I've seen you, guys, and since then
I did get married.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Wow, look at that.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Did you consummate the marriage? Dane? Oh, my gentleman doesn't too.
All right, all right, we'll we'll just infer. It was
a Palm Springs hotel and it was very lovely. I'll
say that. How many people are invited again? Twenty three?
Well twenty one, since it was twenty three total people
including Stephane. Do you find it odd that Donald and
Joel and I were not invited?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Me personally?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
No, me personally, no, he says, it was really lovely.
I it was u Palm Springs traditionally very hot weather,
and as the weekend approach, we noticed that the weather
was dropping and we thought, great, it won't be boiling hot.
And then the miracle that it was. It rained for
the exact twenty minutes of our ceremony, which a lot

(04:06):
of people kept saying. I hear, it's good luck. That's
what they say. That's going to make you feel better.
That makes you say that, bingo.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So it rained, it.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Rained during our wedding. Yeah, but we built tints, we were.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
They frantically built tents the day before in my backyard. Wow. Wow, Well,
thankfully it was just a rain.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yes, yes, sir, Next time put in for the tent.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But yeah, and also next time, invite next time, invite
Donald and us next, next marriage. All this, Yes, I
heard some funny thing on. I read some funny thing
online where some guy it was the woman's second marriage
and the guy and like one of the brothers was like,
here we are again or something like that. It was

(04:51):
like it was like welcome back everyone or something like that, which,
if you have the balls to do in someone's second marriage,
is amazing. I highly recommend that that's good. Welcome back everyone.
That's funny. You have the right person who's not going
to be offended by it, though, truly all right. Well,
in our continuing series on trying to make you laugh

(05:14):
and entertain you without talking about the television show Scrubs,
we have what is.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Wait, hold up, what is that that you just said?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
That was a show that you're not allowed to talk
about yet, But I can mention because I'm in the
writers guild that was written and directed in the in
the in the in the aughts. Is that what we
call him in the it was Ants show.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was Ants show.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
A comedian that I really like and think is so
funny and is very wise and not only is he hilarious,
but he's also I think, a deep thinker and says
wise things. His name is Pete Holmes, and we are
lucky enough to have him on the show. Is he here, Daniel,
he's here, and we already prepped him for audience. He's
going to bring in hold, but.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'm not show. We made about a bunch of said
he's the story natural. So YadA round here, yeada round.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Here, ladies and gentlemen, go ahead, Donald, give.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
It up for Pete's your's your that's your thunderous.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Applause, that's your oprah intro of Peen Holmes.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
I really appreciate I wasn't ready at all. Your team
warned me many times that you guys talk a lot.
That was number one, and that you're often late.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
And we we're only eight minutes in. You're such a
fancy guest that we only went eight minutes of banter
because we didn't want to leave A fancy stand up comedian,
a beloved America's beloved stand up A fancy boy, a
fancy boy.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Well, I appreciate it, but you jumped right in the
middle of backpack browsing, so I'm not quite ready.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Why are you in the market for a backpack? Pete homes?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know?

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Man, do you find that there's just seasons, there's just
like you just like thinks something happens and you're just
like your zest your zest is up? Does your zest
ever shoot up?

Speaker 1 (07:31):
What does that mean? Like you want to go camping?

Speaker 8 (07:33):
You're yearning your zeal Zach Take any movie you've made
and the character you play the opposite of how the protagonist,
so that lopey sort of airstream trailer kind of.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
Like if they woke up and was like, I feel
the opposite and I have zeal and zest and I'm
gonna go to a Tony Robbins event and I'm gonna
buy a backpack. That's how I feel today.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, I'm gonna tell you something. I went into Arii
and Burbank, which if you've never been there is a
magical place and it's really the man that I would
like to be one day, but I am not. But
have you been in there? Donald? It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I went out here in Tarzanna.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
All right, listen, I've never been in an RII so big,
and I'm not a very campy kind of guy. I
want to be. I want to be the guy that
knows how to make a fire and cook on an
open flame and camping in my kayak. But you walk
into ari I, Petere.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
Holmes, why real quick? Why go on?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just got they got backpacks.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
You should look it's going online, Pete Holmes. You should
go into the ri I in Burbank.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I was just magical and huge, and it just there's
just camping gear and itself big.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
You need the gear to survive the store. Okay, we're
doing We're doing that. Donald is nice to meet you.
We've never met.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's nice to meet you too.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Never Pete. That's Joel, our producer and h and Daniel
our engineer editor.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, he has a robot voice.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
He will edit out anything you say that you think
is horrible and stupid and should not have been said.
You can just say cut that, Daniel.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
When I made fun of Zach's character choices in his films,
would you actually copy that and paste it?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
So?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I said it twice? Whatever. We adopted two things you
taught me on our show, Pete Holmes, and one is
a speed agree is that right?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Speed degree? And scandal noted. I said it today. I
said it today. I just did my own podcast and
I was talking about how Louis addressed Luisy ky scandal,
noted scandal. You have to say that just to sort
of you know. I'm reading an interesting book called The
Coddling of the American Mind. Have you heard of that?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
No, we're not well read here.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
You just jump right to it.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Ask us if we watch Below Decks. Some of us
do Below Deck?

Speaker 7 (09:53):
What is that about?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's a reality show, Pete, that follows the crew of
a fancy yacht and their struggles having to wait on
the very rich patrons whilst also going out and partying
and getting ship faced and hooking up themselves.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I don't watch the show.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Donald doesn't watch it, but he watches Ah Soka.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm not to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, but see, Pete, this is something you need to
know that.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
It's still in your background. Donald, you don't watch that show.
You roll your own cigars and like practice archery. You look,
that's a very fancy room, very.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Much, audience, Donald, And is in his new home.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Someone lived in it before and they had a very.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Who was it Aragorn, son of Arathorne.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, Lord of the Ring, Pete.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I want to start at the beginning, because that's a
very good place to start whenever. We we've never had
a fancy stand up comedian on our show. We've had
funny people, but no one who's a stand up. And
I wondered if you could tell the audience a little
bit about that, because our audience isn't necessarily people aren't
necessarily people in entertainment, so they might not know how

(11:02):
the hell do they become a stand up. Now, Pete
was in a show that was very very good called Crashing.
If you haven't watched it, I'm allowed to tell you
as a writer director that it was written and directed
very well, but not as an actor. No, that's what
we were trying to say. Donald is a SAG member
not allowed to talk about any acting performances. But as
a WGA and DGA member, I can tell you the
Crashing was very very well done. Yeah, oh, thank you,

(11:24):
and its it sort of told the story. But can
you tell orian's a little bit how you got started
and how you ended up being a stand up in
your life.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, that's a good question. I The answer would be,
you know, I started in like two thousand and one
ish around there, so I've been doing it twenty two years.
My god, you just watched me stare into the middle
distance and I start crying. Twenty two years.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
But you just said two thousand and one was twenty
two years ago. Man, that feels like it was like
five years ago. I mean, like nineteen eighty feels like
twenty two years to me.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Right, I'm so with you. But you know, at that
time in two thousand and two thousand and one, if
you wanted to get into comedy, there was improv, which
I did, and then there was stand up. And that
was around the time when I'm trying to think like
Cosby Scandal, Noted Seinfeld, there were there were people that

(12:21):
were getting TV shows. So like when you would look
and you'd go, how did I'm trying to think of
a stand up like Raymond?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Everybody loves Raymond.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Raymond is a good one, but also SNL people. I
was one of those people that wanted to be on
SNL when I was in high school. That was one
of like a standout moment was I was in the
car with my friend Oliver and Kirsta. I mean, that's
how important this was, and I was making them laugh
so hard and it was either Kirsa or Oliver, but
they said you should be on SNL and I was like, oh, whoa,

(12:49):
you know what I mean, Like these these things, our
words are like so powerful, and that moment in high
school when everybody's so awkward and pimply and strange, that
that somebody took the time to like encourage me in
that way. And I remember that validating my little night time.
You know, I'd fall asleep pretending I was doing the
Good Nights you know, behind me. Would you imagine you

(13:13):
I did? And I still have that dream. I don't
have that dream, you know, like in my life, it's
not like on my goals to necessarily do that, but
I still catch myself. I'll wake up and I'm a
little embarrassed. I'm like I had the dream and the
dream that I had when I was fifteen years old
that I'm behind, you know, some some actor waving at

(13:34):
the Good Nights. So you were like, even as a
as a teenager, I was like, how do you do it?
I was asking the question you're asking, and I was like,
you'd find people like I'm trying to think Jay Moore,
David Spade. There were people that got from stand up
onto snl right, and then I started doing that, mimicking
that doing, and we can get into that and that

(13:56):
really what I got into first though, was improv because
I read a book, the Second City Book that was
like they broke it down like this. Chris Farley was
the funniest guy in Madison, Wisconsin. He went down to Chicago.
He did Second City. Second City gets scouted like an athletic,
like a baseball scout. They go and they watch the

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show and they recruit people. And that was true and
it is still kind of true how how it happened.
So I was like, Okay, that's what I'll do. So
I had been doing stand up in Boston probably like
maybe ten times, not a ton, including some self produced
shows I did at my college. The first time I
did stand up, I did an hour stand up. I

(14:39):
just didn't know any better. I didn't know, well, that's generous, dude.
It was probably six minutes to stand up.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I listened, said, I'm in dread to have to do
stand up because I'm look. We had a fantasy football
league and if you lost, you had to do five
minutes at like the laugh. Actually one of the dudes
really exec Yeah, he was an EP and he was like,
I'll fucking figure it out and we'll make it happen.
Do you know how hard I tried to win that

(15:04):
fucking league just so I didn't have to do five minutes. Dude,
you did a fucking hour your first time out.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You are the bravest individual to play.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
I really appreciate that. And that's a very creative punishment
because if you don't want to do it, stand up
is like the worst thing I can imagine having to do.
But because I wanted to do it and I stacked
it with my friends, it's a nightmare now. I would
never want to perform for my friends and my family.
Strangers are so much better. But like I did it
and it wasn't good is what I'm trying to stress.
But you know, I, you know, I broke the seal

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and off we went. So I did it like maybe
ten times. But then I read this book called Truth
and Comedy and I was like, oh, improv is where
it's at. Because it's collaborative. It's a lot like you
know what we're doing now as actors, it's like you're
on a set. It's social, You're you're engaging with a
scene partner, and it just felt so much. I'm not
putting it down, but it felt safer, to be honest, I.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Would love that. By the way, neither have I done
professionally ever, I think I would love to do improv
when I go see it.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You may train as an improv you've done improv before.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Of course. Of course I do improv when I'm acting,
and I make up jokes as we shoot. But I've
never done a sketch comedy improv land And when I
go see it, it's obviously hit or miss. Sometimes you'll
see something that's the funniest fucking thing ever you can't
believe it, and other times you're like, oh my god,
this is so cringe, But that's kind of part of
the role of the dice of the thing.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, it's fun. That could be fun too.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Right, But I always feel like I would love that.
I would love to do.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Well because it's it's it's beautiful. And I really became
like an evangelist for how pure improv is and how
sort of dirty stand up was, because truth and comedy
kind of makes that case that traveling uh that I'm
sorry that comedians stand up comedians are a little bit
like traveling salesmen. It's it's very it puts them down.
It's like they take their wares and their sad little

(16:57):
rental cars and they go to clubs and it's that egg.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
They don't say that, but they're kind of implying. Whereas
improv is you know, you and five, six, seven, eight
other people, you're listening to each other, you're building it,
create together, you're co creating it, and then you throw
it away. It's almost like Andy Warhol. It's like it
would have belonged in the sixties, with like a spinning
like hypnotic shape in the background and everyone's wearing white

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and smoking cigarettes. Like it's cool, it's experimental, it's alive.
But I do want to say that it is safer. Again,
that doesn't mean it's bad, but there was a My
part of my draw to it was because I was
scared to do stand up and that's not really a
good reason to not do stand up. And I watched
a lot of people doing improv where you know, and

(17:45):
I'm not breaking any new ground here. People are pointed
this out before. A lot of improv teams are big
white guys with beards, and it's a beer drinking club,
you know what I mean. It's like, I'm not. I
still think it can be great at times, but I
was always like, very like when I had an improv team,
I wanted to perform all the time. I was like,
what the fuck are we doing? And you perform like

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once a month if you're like mad Discipline, and if
you're a house team at Io or something in Chicago,
you go up once a week. And I'm like, this
is fucking stupid, Like it's not, but it is. It's like,
as a stand up you can go up three times
a night, five times a night, six I believe the
record is thirteen times a night.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You can do them.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
I think Steve Byrne did that. He did thirteen sets
in New York. And it's like, I don't do that.
But when I was starting, I would do that. I
would do a lot of reps. And it's like I
think it was Chappelle or I think it was Chappelle
that was like, look, if you have a guy in
boise Ido Iowa that's doing like, you know, a set
a month, and then you have some dude in Manhattan

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that's going up five times a week, who's going to
get better? Like you can feel it in New York.
You're like, yeah, I'm better than I was at seven
o'clock today.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
But you got to put in those reps.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You can't.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
You can't with improv. That was my problem. You are
now scheduling ten people with jobs, with lives, a lot
of them, with families, a lot of them that some
of them were just kind of doing it because it's
fucking great and it's fun and it's art in itself.
But I've always had kind of like a not it's
not grotesque, but I've had like, I want to do

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show business. I want to write shows, I want to
write movies, I want to act. I want to do this,
and I want to do it by getting really good
at stand up and always do stand up first and foremost,
but like and and for itself. But I was like,
I gotta go, We gotta fucking go, guys, let's go.
And it's hard to do that when you got to
call three of three other guys and two of them
are on Kyle.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
We'll be right back after these fine words. I've had
the experience when of knowing people, particularly I was my twenties,
of people trying to start out doing stand up and
there's this system in place right where you you need
to recruit people to come to your show, who are

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your friends, your family, and they need to pay a
cover and like buy a two drink minimum, and that's
and that's how you kind of get up in the beginning.
Is that's still the case. That's what it was back
in like the early two thousands when I had people
that were trying to do this.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, Like one of my roommates when I first moved
out here, he was in the stand up and stuff
like that. He would try and get on it. I
forget what the what the spot was, but it was
like because I smoked way too much weed back then.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
And still do nothing change.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Nothing changed a second. It's the same ship.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
That looks like a great sweatshirt to smoke weedan is
that your Mickey Mouse sweatshirt?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, it's not the Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
He knows about the Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He's a listener.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
It's not. It's not okay.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
And I saw him bomb quite a bit, and I
saw him, you know, I have a few nights where
he did really well and I used to sit there
and be like, dude, I don't know why you're putting
yourself through this? And it was the same show every night,
and he was like, if I can just get this right,
if this comes out right, oh.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
My god, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
I have a lot of thoughts about that. First of all,
stand up comedy is a never ending parade of humiliations
and embarrassments.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
It does seem to be a really, really, really hard
attract Some.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
People are like, oh, I tried it and then I stopped.
Should I get back into it? And I'm like, if
it didn't get its hook in you, why would you?
Why would you run through a like a sea, like
a navy seal obstacle course. When on the other side
of it is some dude says you can do his
show once a month unless you really want it, you
know what I mean. So the other thing I feel

(21:49):
very strongly about that I just think is really important
and it's a through line and a lot of the
people that I know that were successful in stand up.
Leave your fucking friends out of it, leave your fo
get the fuck out. I didn't invite my fucking friends
to come watch me when I knew I don't invite
my friends. Now, you know what I'm saying it's like,

(22:10):
get why would I want you to watch me rearrange
my chocolate paneled living room? You know what I mean.
It's like, it's stupid. It's private, it's between me and
the audience. It's not a social experiment. It's not something
I want you. I want your support. I'm in this
to be fucking Batman. And have you ever seen Batman
on a gargoyle? He didn't bring his friend Caleb to

(22:32):
watch him learn how to fight crime. Fucking beat it.
This isn't about you. I hope you never see me
fuck off. I'm doing this because it's a compulsion and
it's a passion, and it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. Like Zach
came and saw me and it was a great show.
I'm at a point in my career people can come
and see me now. But for the first ten years,

(22:54):
you know, I worked at Bennegan's in on the South
Side of Chicago. A lot of people didn't even know
I was a comedian. That's the right way to do it,
just in the same way people don't know Bruce Wayne
as Batman. Beat it. You have nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
But how do you get up here's my question, how
do you get up? Because to me, that racket that
I sort of was exposed to was the you know
by the way they're going up at like five thirty,
you know the reason that they were getting up is because.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
They brought friends. Those are called bringers.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, tell us tell you what. I've never audience. What
a bringer is the audience? I can't much.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
I can't't, I can't, I can't. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
That's kind of the audience about the tracks. One of
them is being is being a bringer? Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Well, I never did bringers, and I don't encourage people
to do bringers. I think bringers are for the tourists.
There are exceptions to this. There are great comics that
did bringers, But a lot of people that do bringers
are just trying to pay it. Meaning like if I
get five friends to buy five tickets, so that's already
fifty bucks. Now two drinks and that's probably twenty bucks each.

(23:54):
I'm not here to do math, but you know, the
club's making a lot of money giving you five minutes
on a special show on a Monday night five thirty. Yeah,
and you bring me. That's a racket for the clubs.
It's like a pyramid scheme basically, and like it's also
I would say it's impossible to do well. I've been

(24:15):
doing it, Like I said twenty two twenty three years.
If you put me up at a six o'clock Bringer,
unless all I did was make fun of how horrible
the show was, which isn't kind. There's no way to
do well. You can't go up in that show and
be like, you know the funny thing about sand like
get at. Nobody wants to be there. They're hostages.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's horrible. I've been to bringers. I never knew there
was a term. I've been to bringers that are so
cringe and you're there trying to be supportive of your friend,
but you still have to listen to twenty other people.
We're at this Bringer.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
I'm telling you, it's like if aliens are watching us.
They're watching Bringer shows going like, look at what they do,
because it's a lot of to bringers.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I never knew there was a term club.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Okay, so look, and I didn't know they were it
was called bringers either. First of all, so when I
was growing up, my parents worked at it were a
part of a theater company called the National Black Theater.
It was in Harlem, and for two seasons, Uptown Comedy
Club set shot its show at the theater. So I

(25:20):
got to see a lot of very young comedians, African
American comedians, Ma Coo, Dougie, Doug, Tracy Morgan, a lot
of these cats perform and stuff like that. And so
on nights when they weren't shooting stuff like that, there
would be comedy night and they would set it up
just like it was on television, and people would come

(25:41):
on stage and those were the knights where that shit
would be empty as fuck, you know what I mean,
Like nobody.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Would ever night.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah it was well, yeah that's what it would be,
but you would you wouldn't know it, but fucking Dougie
Doug would host it or freaking Flex would be on stage.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
This is back then, right, And I just remember, like
the ones that did bring their friends in, you know
what I mean, Yeah, they got the last they got that.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
That's what I mean. It's it's ridiculous. So to jump
no bringers. I'm not saying nobody's done a bringer and done, okay,
I'm just saying that was my policy. I was like,
this is embarrassing. This is growing pains. Let's just do
this as privately as possible. Otherwise you're going to exhaust
your friend group. They're gonna stop coming.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I was exhausted fast because I once you go to
two or three bringers, You're like, how do I never
do this?

Speaker 7 (26:36):
It's not a renewable resource. It's not a renewable resource.
And even if it is, you you're exploiting your it's horrible.
So what you want to do. And when I was
in Chicago and when I was in New York is
I would do open mics, which you're a different kind
of death, but it's a different agreement. In New York,
you had to pay, the comic had to pay. You
had to buy two drinks or two items, so I

(26:57):
got you know, this is a time when money's very tight.
I buy two buy two cokes for two cokes. Yeah,
but you also have to sign up, which means you
might be going on thirtieth you know what I mean.
There's nothing good about a question.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You would have hit a bullshit? Wait, you hit a bullshit.
I used to have to pay for fucking drinks.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I'm a little kid, and I'm paying for sodas and
ship at this fucking comedy club and if I couldn't pay,
they would kick me the fuck.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Kick.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I need to buy two cokes.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
This is my parents theater and shit.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
But the funny thing is they put them right in
front of you, because you're like, all right, have you
have this agreement where you have to buy two drinks? Right,
so even if you're not drinking alcohol, you're drinking diet coke, Like,
they just put two die cokes in front of you.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Well, yeah, no, that that is how you could spot
a comic at one of these things, because you had
two glasses of coke in front of you that no
one wanted. And it was also at a time when,
like you know, that's probably in New York in two
thousand and four. I mean two cokes was probably still
about eight bucks, and you're just sort of like, I
don't I don't have eight but like this sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
So I have a question for you. When I walk
down McDougall, For those who don't know McDougall, what is
it street, boulevard? What is it? I think it's street
in Manhattan. Is not only the place where I think
you would say the top comedy club in Manhattan is
the comedy seller, yep, but also there's a few other clubs.

(28:20):
And when you walk down that street, and by the way,
a lot of Pete's show crashing takes place on that street.
And I remember, I remember seeing you guys shooting there.
There's guys and gals pamphleting. Yeah, now are they also
comics trying to get up?

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Is that another?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (28:35):
And that is what I did? So I love this
is such a generous line of questioning. I just really
appreciate your Well.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
We want to educate our audience on the life of
a stand up comedian.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Well, I appreciate anyone listening.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's very We've done vaginas, and we've done penises, We've
done we've done alcohol. Now we've done horses. We did
horses comedians.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
Well, okay, what what? Oh? So that's called barking. And
so what I did when I was in New York.
And when I got to New York, i'd been doing
stand up for three years, but I felt like I
was starting over. And I think we could talk about
that for a while, but that was important. I didn't
walk in going like I'm from Chicago and you will
respect me. You just assume you're starting over, and that
was that was a good attitude. I don't remember who

(29:20):
explained that to me. Probably somebody told me that, and
I just I went in headlow, you know. And then
I did the open mics. But like I said, you're
looking at eight bucks a throw plus subway all that stuff,
and they sucked. They sucked. They were I'm not saying
I sucked. I did suck. Like I wasn't that bad
three years in. I wasn't that bad. But these shows,

(29:42):
performing for other comedians looking at their notes, waiting for
their turn to go on again, it's it's an unwinnable situation.
The only times I remember killing it open mics was
I had an opener where I'd go, look at what
we're doing and everyone would laugh because that was the
only angle know your audience. It's like, look what is this?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, that's funny. That's a funny route. It's like, you know,
the audience's other comics like make fun of the process.
You can't.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
But I'm not even trying. There's no mark. Again. I
don't want to sound like a like a capitalist, like
swine or anything, but I wasn't getting in it to
learn how to kill it in an open mic, like
it was fun to do every once in a while,
but I was like, I want to run bits, I
want to work out material, and it wasn't happening.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's what I was asking you.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Were you at the level where you were able to
run your bits and work out your material and try
and get your set complete you.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Could do bits at an open mic, But like if
someone kind of was like, huh, like that was a
standing ovation, you know, and really, and this is again
we could talk about the theory of getting through open mics.
The mantra at that point is don't quit. It's like,
it's like it's gonna suck. There's a line in Crashing
where Marina Franklin says to me, she says, if it sucks,

(30:55):
that's how you know you're doing it right. And that
is absolutely true of the beginning of stand up. And
you have to frame it and renarrativize it as something romantic,
as a lineage, as a rite of passage, because it's
not gonna in itself reward you. But when I would
see like Dmitri Martin was like I barked at the
Boston Comedy Club, I was like I'm gonna bark at

(31:17):
the Boston Comic Club. Like that's what I'm gonna do.
Jim Gaffigan was like, go to the Boston Comedy Club
and ask them how, and what they were saying, essentially
was there's a dumpster fire over there that you can
at least find a couple tunicns and discarded paper boxes
that you can lay on. It's gonna suck. Jim Gavigan
said to me, this is twenty years ago. He goes,

(31:38):
you're gonna think I'm insane, but you need to go
to a place that will like fold you into it
and let you let you in. And the places that
are gonna let essentially just a wandering you know, new
comedian in aren't gonna be great places. So the place
that I got in was the Boston It's not there anymore.

(31:59):
We rebuilt it for Crashing, which was a real trip,
but was on West third and basically West third McDougall,
so it was like a block and a half from
where I wanted to be, and my corner was McDougall
and third. So I was standing watching my heroes. And

(32:19):
when I say heroes, I don't mean names, you know,
I just mean, any dude that was working the cellar
was my.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
But that's good to say, But we should also tell
the audience. He doesn't know that the top comedians stand
ups in the world, if they're gonna make a surprise
and shore somewhere, they go to the cellar so you'll see.
You know, you can be in there and all of
a sudden, you know Chappelle's going on or Seinfeld's going on.
They just show up and surprise the audience.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
And that's the trip, is that that Chappelle would also
come to this Boston because the Boston would let him
do three hours because it sucks and you want to
hear something crazy. This is when Chappelle's show is on.
So I'm barking. So I literally just went to the
Boston Comedy Club. I met the manager. His name was Dustin.
Somebody had told me go to the Boston asked for Dustin.

(33:06):
I met Dustin, who's a great guy, and I said, like,
I just told him what I've been telling you. I'm
from Chicago, I've been doing three years. I'm just looking
for a home club. And the moments in my life
that hinged on some human kindness are insane. And we
could spend the rest of the podcast talking about those
kindness hinge moments, and this was one of them, because
he could have just said get the fuck out of here.

(33:28):
He said what he said wasn't the best news. But
he was like, if you stand on that corner for
four hours, I'll give you four minutes, you know what
I mean. A lot of people would be like that
sounds like abuse, but I was like, I got my headphones,
I'm going to stand out there. They didn't track it.
Some clubs track it like you write your name on
it and they count how many people come in with

(33:51):
a flyer with your name on it. They weren't doing that.
You just had to do it, which felt a little
old Testament in a good way, in the way it's
like you want to marry my daughter, work in the
fields for seven years, like it felt from it does
feel and it feels like fight club. You want to
come in for Project Mayhem, stand on the porch for
three days. So I was like, Okay, we come from
a species that values people proving that they really want something.

(34:14):
Sleep on the on the steps of the temple before
you come in on karate. That's what it felt like.
So I was like okay, and I that was like
I felt like that was my first break was that
Dustin was like I'll let you bark and I went out.
I was pretty good at it, meaning I just kind of,
you know, I've cut corners in my life when I
was a waiter, I would cut corner. I was kind

(34:35):
of lazy and stuff. But with this, I was like
dead serious. So I was like handout flyers, going for it.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
What was your line that would get people to Trey
live comedy?

Speaker 7 (34:43):
I just said great live com you guys, you guys. Look,
that's all I said. Great because there's so many people,
it's got to be quick, great live comedy, and that
great live comedy.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Here's there's also a lot of people. When you walk
down Mcdogal, there's a lot of people doing this to
get you to the different clubs. Yeah, it's kind of
like the red Light District in Amsterdam. It's very Instead
of it prostitutes, it's guys like Pete.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
It's the it's the fucking well, I don't want to
say that, now say it.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
It's the It's yes, yeah, it is, you know what
it is. It's like the gym too, Like it's just
like this. I like the kung Fu thing. It's like,
go sleep in the rain, go sleep on it in
a ditch and prove it. And I actually I'm one
of those old people now that I'm like, this is good.
You shouldn't get famous on TikTok right away and not

(35:30):
be very good. I'm not thinking about anybody in particular
and just get catapulted into fame. You should lower yourself.
It's fucking Indiana Jones. Only the pendent man will pass,
and you got to get on your knees and fucking
get fucking humiliated. What is the root of humiliated is humble.
It's also the same root as human. It's also the
same root as soil. It's like, get low. And that's

(35:52):
what Bill Burr told me. I was very lucky that
the first people that I opened.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Forgot some really fucking, really cool dudes advice right away.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Jim Gaffigan and Bill Burke used to come through Chicago,
and my friend Dan Kaufman hooked me up and got
me opening for them. We didn't those weren't like huge
names at the point. They were to me, but not
to the world. And and Bill Burr said he was
the one that said go to the Boston Comedy Club,
and he said, keep your head down, don't be a dick.
You'll get in. Though I still have that email, I've

(36:20):
looked at it, not recently, but I have checked that
I got that wording right, and that's what it was.
So keep your head down and like cand of keep
your mouth shut. You know, people are gonna make fun
of you, people are gonna tease you, but like, just
let the craft speak for itself. Just get better. And
the tip that I think you were steering me towards
that was that, like I have a stack of flyers

(36:41):
and you'd have to like take a flyer out, snap
and put it in front of somebody. Yeah, and if
they don't take it, which most people don't, put it
back in the stack, so you snap it again. You
don't just leave it out there like you need the
movement and some sort of razzle.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
They're also very tall. What are you six?

Speaker 7 (36:58):
What six six? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
So six six helps? You're gonna get people are gonna
look at you.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
Yeah. And you know what else helped is is like
I'm an effusive person, I'm a communicator. This doesn't always work,
meaning I would tell Dustin how much it meant to me,
like even after a night, sometimes the show was canceled.
Often the show was canceled. You bark for four hours,
you come back, no one's there. You just go home.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh my god. But I was so humiliating and humbling.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
But if you keep doing it, you know what I
mean by old testament. It's like, you must really love
my wife or my daughter, you can marry her.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm gonna stick with the Miagi analogy. You fucking learned
to wax on wax off.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
Yeah, But like I also was very clear, I'm not
a tourist, meaning I'm not just doing this to have fun.
This was I didn't lose in my fantasy football thing,
like I want I want this, I want to do
this and thank you for the opportunity. Now, that sweetness
didn't always work. I remember there was a club in

(37:59):
Boston that I was trying to get up and I
would He told me, he was like, we'll get you
up another time this month. And I used to call,
just every day, just calling, and the dude, fine, I'd
get the machine. I'd leave him like the seventh message,
This coked up club owner picks up the phone. He's
like this isn't how it fucking works. I call you like,
he like chewed me out. So I couldn't just be
like the borderline Mormon sweet level, you know what I mean.

(38:22):
Like I was so doe eyed and kind, I'd like
to think, but gentle and happy to be here, almost
like Jack McBrayer or Buddy the Elf, you know what
I mean. And that did it. Yeah, it did work
with Dustin in the sense that he knew I meant it,
and he's a true comic and he respected the part

(38:43):
of me that wanted to be a true comic. And
then the trip was I was gonna say, when Chappelle
would drop by, we'd go out on the street. Again.
It might be ten o'clock at night, the Terrible Show
is already going. There's like seven people in the house.
I'm waiting to go on and the and they go
Chappelle's here. He's It's so fucking what is there anyone cooler?

(39:04):
He's walking in. I can remember it, and you know,
he's smoking, and Dustin would say, go back out, and
we would go back out. Of course, would go back out.
Then all we had to say was Dave Chappelle's in here,
and the place would be full in like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Wow, but here's the word back out. I could picture
all the comedians who thought they were going to go on, yeah,
are now running out with their flyers. It became Chappelle, Chappelle, chappelle.
But it probably means you're not going to go on.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
No, it was a mixed bag. At first, it was awesome,
and I'd say this to Dave, it's not shit talk.
At first it was awesome, and then after a while
that just meant, here's what's going to happen. One hundred
and fifty people are going to pack out the club.
He's going to go on. He's going to go on
for two hours maybe. And by that I mean he's

(39:50):
not and he you know, he can do whatever he wants,
but he's not necessarily doing material. He's fucking around, which
is his right. I say, you see the hierarchy. There
is like a respect pyramid of stand up, and we
take that seriously. So that was fine. I would watch it,
and I learned a lot about what it's like to
develop material really raw, just literally asking somebody like what's

(40:14):
your favorite breakfast cereal and riffing on cinnamon toa's crunch
for five minutes. But it wasn't he wasn't doing you know,
he's feeling prepared.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
No, I've seen this, by the way. I've seen this. No,
I've literally seen this carry out. I've been in the
cellar when oh my god, she Pell's here. She might
everyone gets excited. Yeah, and then he starts smoking and
there isn't even what seems like the seed of an idea.
It's just it's just him smoking, and he just like

(40:46):
starts shooting the ship with an audience member. And because
he's who he is, he's earned the right yeah to
do that. And then if you're in the audience, you're like,
when's he gonna start telling a joke?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Yeah, yeah. And there's a certain kind of writing you
can only do on the high wire, like you want
to be in front of the crowd, Like I write
and then I go on stage and it just juices
it up. You just like being in front of an audience.
You like the thrill of the laugh and all that stuff.
So I get it. He's going up and and and
he's an EmPATH, but he's absorbing that energy and it's
inspiring him. But he's also like a cool ass dude,

(41:21):
that's very calm, So he doesn't mind just sitting there
and smoking if that's what happens for a couple of minutes.
So then the best case scenario would be he doesn't
do too long. He says thank you, and then I
he didn't talk about and no one yeah, right, hey, Hi,

(41:44):
get off, and then the barkers, as we were known,
because no one is left and no one wants to
go next. So now everyone wanted to go next. Now
Chappelle went up, no one wants to go next. So
the number of times that I went on stage, and
my opener, if you want to call it, that was
please don't leave, Please don't leave. David Chapelle was great.

(42:06):
I know, please don't leave, and everyone would leave. But guys,
I'm forty four, and as I tell this story, I
have a huge smile on my face. It was essential.
It was essential. It was like, that's why I told you.
When people say I did stand up once or twice,
I took a ten year break, Should I do it again,

(42:27):
I'm like, no, you either know this is your shit
even when you suck, but you still have those dreams
literally in my case, literally dreaming about it. Dreaming about
hanging out with Zach and Donald on a podcast. Fucking
dream come to you know, my first specscript with Scrubs.
By the way, this shit, this shit was fucking in me,

(42:52):
you know what I mean, So like you gotta take
the win, and the wind was this sucks and I'm
not quitting. I know that sounds like a little like
a refrigerator magnet, but I was like, I'm proud that
I went into Manhattan, a place that used to it's
At that time, it was scary to me. Unsettling. People
are mean, Comics are mean. People would say right to

(43:14):
your face, I don't like you, like fucking weird shit.
And I stood there holding my empty porridge bowl and
just like smiled like the fucking Buddha and just waited
my turn. And then me and the Barkers would talk shit.
Of course we hated everybody.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Is that a young man's game, that's a good question.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
I mean, I was twenty five, but Dmitri Martin was
in law school. He was in his second year of
law school and he quit. That's fucking courage and certainty
and skill. Like he recognized his skill, so he didn't
start until he was already out of college and two
years into law school. But Tim Allen is always the example.

(43:54):
I like, sometimes people go, is it too late for
me to start? And whatever age they are, I go,
Tim Allen was in jail when he was your you
know what I mean, like meaning it if it's in you,
you know what I mean, like there can be a
later break. It's just in fact, the older you get,
you know, I think, the funnier you get, and you can,

(44:17):
especially these days, you can cram conversation like this, cram content.
I was just talking to somebody on my pod today.
I was like, I used to go to the library
and get like prior VHS's and stuff, and like, you know,
you'd have to take this in Boston, take the subway
into Tower Records just to look to see if they
had a comedy section. They didn't. You just go home.

(44:38):
Like but now, if somebody was starting in their thirties
or even their forties, I wouldn't roll my eyes at that,
you know, And Roseanne, there are a lot of people,
I think, especially now, I wouldn't think this do paying
shit though I don't know. It's an ego question. Some
people have egos that they can detach from them, so

(45:00):
I was a little bit more easily and because I
was young and didn't have as much of an ego
like dude I was. I was on an airplane. I
had a first class ticket on a flight. They moved
me to another flight. My seat wasn't first class, and
I got on the plane. I was not rude about it,
but there were empty seats in first class and I'm like,
can I have one of these? And they were like no,
and I was like, and I was so shocked that

(45:20):
they said no. I didn't do anything rude, but I
was like, dude, I couldn't do it now, you know
what I mean. Like, I wouldn't go and be like
I just barked for four hours and they're like, show
is canceled. I'd be like, well, I'm not coming tomorrow.
This isn't working. But to that, I knew dudes that
came to New York and weren't willing to eat shit
and they are not doing comedy anymore. And that's okay.

(45:40):
I don't say that and spit out their name from
my mouth or anything. I'm just saying there were two
people that in the scenes that I came up with
that didn't make it. One was people that weren't willing
to eat shit, eat a shit sandwich. And that's within reason.
I'm not talking about taking abuse from club owners or
other comics. I'm saying, within reason, the parameters that we've
kind of been discussing, the other dudes that didn't make

(46:02):
it and women that didn't make it, were the shit talkers,
Like if all you did was complain about what other
people were getting and how fast they were getting. Because
here I am handing out flyers as these I'm sorry
shows up on the scene. Dude is instant, from my perspective,
instantly in Rolling Stone, on the hot List, you know
what I mean, or something like that, and you're like,

(46:23):
dude's twenty years old. If you let that jealousy permeate
you and get in your bones, I call it comedy cancer.
You're done. You're fucking done. You keep your head down,
Bill Burr, keep your head do beit deck like you
can't look at your neighbor's paper. And that's why you
don't invite your friends. I don't give a fuck what

(46:43):
my friends think. I know I suck. It's my time
to suck. Let me do it privately, let me do
it alone.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
We'll be right back after these fine words. Let me
ask you this. They used to be the old prayer
was that you would get a sitcom, right, So nowadays.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Isn't that still to say.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Well, it's a show. I'm sure, but.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
No guys getting in the stand up really just to
make everybody laugh for the rest of their life. They
want to fucking turn that shit into fucking.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
Of course, of course some do, some do really, there
are there are purists. Yeah, for sure, there's a great story.
Hannibal Burris. I don't think it'd mind me telling you this,
but like he used to go into meetings with networks
and he'd just be like, I just want to get
good at stand up. Like he'd be completely honest with them.
They're like, yeah, but do you have any pitches? And
he's like, I want to get good at stand up
Because he knew the order, he was like, you're not

(47:39):
gonna We're not going to do this. Now. I'm glad
we know each other. I'm extrapolating. I just remember Hannibal
was one of those dudes that was like, I just
want to be one of the greats, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
So, but yeah, my question is how do you now
make a living at it? Because I know you've had
you have a successful tour. You have an upcoming Netflix
show which we should plug.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
What's it called show ten twenty four. It'll be out
ten twenty four. It's called I Am Not for everyonty.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I am for everyone. Yeah, I am not for everyone
on Netflix. I've seen this show, by the way, with
Bill Lawrence. Bill and I went to one of the
last times you were sort of doing it for an
audience at Largo in Los Angeles before you went to
shoot it. I believe right, And I'm not just saying
this because he's here. Bill and I belly laughed for

(48:26):
an hour and a half. How long did you did
it end up being ninety minutes?

Speaker 7 (48:30):
No, I cut some stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
It's funny. That night I was like that night, I
was like, I said to you, oh, I'm sure you're
going to cut it down to an hour, right, And
you were like, no, No, I think I'm going to leave
it long. But even the ninety minutes, we bally laughed
the whole time. It was so fucking funny. I promise you, audience,
if you're listening and you're a fan of Donald and
I you will laugh at Pete's special. It's so smart

(48:55):
and funny. And I like comedy that does not only
make me laugh but makes me think, and your hour
certainly does that. Oh thanks man, But I wanted to
say My question is how I've gone to the Cellar
and seen so many brilliant comedians. That's where you go
when you want to see the best in town, and
I don't. They aren't necessarily household names. They aren't necessarily

(49:15):
people you'd recognize. How do these people make a living?
Do they do they tour? They's? Do they tour at
different levels? Are they hoping for a special? What is
the twenty twenty three way that a stand up comedian
makes a living?

Speaker 7 (49:28):
Again a generous question. We we cover this a little
bit on Crashing, but the answer is more than what
we showed on the show. There's different markets, right, so
there there are still to this day people in New York.
What I was smiling during your question that there are
people that I want to go like, what what are
how are you doing? Like I do like I don't know,

(49:49):
I want to go, Like what is what's your strategy?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Like where do you live? How do you ben in Manhattan?

Speaker 7 (49:55):
Well? You can take it up from the bottom right.
There are some dudes that do so many sets in
the city. That's what they that's what they do. Like that,
and I'm sure they tore some but like you know,
if you do, because the Fat Black Pussycat is right
around the corner from the cellar, you can go back
and forth between those two clubs. I've done it and
go up eight times at the night and.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
That's in your show. By the way, I just want
to say a funny little connection here. Jessica Curson, who
we should have on Donald is my stepsister and she
is a very accomplished, that hilarious stand up comedian.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
She did it a unique way.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Also, where she got she was already out there, but
she got on through a reality television show.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, and that was her. That was her introduction, started
her up.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
She was on one of those what was it the
comedian competition she was. Yeah. But also what I just
wanted to say that one of the great things about
Peete show Crashing is he had all the real people
playing themselves. All the go to not all, but a
lot of the go to stand ups in this circuit
are in the show, including my stepsister Jessica Curson was

(51:00):
in a very funny episode where Pete and she are
running back and forth between these two clubs. So I
just had to digress and tell that.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And then we go.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
She does another one where we go to North Carolina.
She was in the only episode where we flew somewhere
to shoot it, and she's just she's sweet as pie.
I love her to death. I'm not just saying that.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Like I have like a special She's someone you don't
want to follow because she every time I see her.
That's why I'm the most often that I'm in the
Cellar is because Jessica's going up and I'm going to
see her and I'm gonna see some other comics. Yeah,
And every comic will tell me and they're not just
saying this because she's my stepsister, Like you can't follow
her because she's so funny and she's so outrageous. Donald.
Have you ever seen her do her thing?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yes, I have so funny.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
She told me once she didn't like a crowd at
the Cellar and she did the rest of her set
with her back her back to them, which I was like.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
She does this sort of inner monologue thing where she'll
she'll be performing and if and if something bombs, she
goes upstage to the wall and turns around into the mic.
She does like an inner monologue, like, don't listen to them,
You're doing just great. This is very hard. You know,
I'm not selling it well.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
But yes, great, Yeah, she's letting them into every element
of the experience. So anyway, the answer is there's city
spots and then the first break. For a lot of
people in Mike, I'll just speak for myself. My first
sort of foray into touring was colleges, and especially when
you're in your twenties, colleges are incredible and there's things

(52:27):
called NAKA. Musicians do it as well. It's a National
Association of College Acts or something like that. You go
to a NAKA. It's in a hotel. We did an
episode about on crashing and people are curious. I'm very
proud of the NAKA episode. I got a college agent.
I'm forgiving out. I can't exactly remember how, but somebody
probably a VHS tape that I sent and then they

(52:50):
submit that VHS tape into naka's on your behalf. You
have to pay it's like three hundred bucks just to
submit again at a time when you don't have three
hundred bucks, and then if you get in, it's a
really big deal. I often didn't get in. I eventually
finally got one. I went and you perform at like
eleven in the morning. And who's there as all the

(53:11):
people from our colleges that ran the Student Activities Council.
So everybody's shirt says sack or CAB. They're all called
soccer Cab, soccer Cab, Student Activities Council or CONCL.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
So they're the students.

Speaker 7 (53:27):
Yeah, they're students.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
So they're students who have been tasked with booking the
acts for this.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
Yeah, but let's be real. These aren't the hippus students.
These are are kids that wanted to run the yearbook.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Basically they have a lot of power. Though they do
have a.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
Lot of power, and that's what's so funny about it
is you're kissing your my future, my rent, and my
livelihood is now tied to my ability to not only
perform well but also hobnob and the lobby of a
highest regency with some eight nineteen year old girl who
still has braces, and she's deciding whether or not they
want to spend the eleven hundred dollars to have me

(54:02):
come into the Upper Peninsula, Michigan and do a show
at noon. You know what I mean. So it's a
very I'm telling you, it's a never ending parade of humiliations. Guys,
it's never ending. It doesn't end. I'm still doing it.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
So you do the set and then you have to
go in the lobby and be like, so, Michelle, no,
it's worse.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
You stand at a booth you after your set, pet Homestan,
it's your My agency was called Auburn Moon. I would
stand at the Auburn Moon booth and watch people walk by.
So I did two necas, one where I did very well,
one where I didn't so one where you didn't do well.
And you have to stand at the booth trying to

(54:45):
hand out your merch because you're giving because college kids
love free stuff, so you're trying to give them T
shirts or trying to give them a water bottle or
something like that, or a carabeaner that says Pete Holmes dot.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
And then see them let's say you didn't kill that day,
and well yea, And so you see them gathering around
the booth of the guy who killed and they're all
get get the asease Carabina.

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Yeah, well, dude, I don't know if he's ever didna.
I think as blew up real fast and kind of
pole vaulted that. But when I did it the first
time and I knew it was a big deal, it
was like I was more nervous, more jacked up for
it than like my first late night or anything. It
was like it really felt like no one will ever know,

(55:30):
you know what I mean. It's not going to be
on TV. But if I do this, it'll fill my calendar,
like it'll fill out my whole year. And when I
said eleven hundred dollars, that wasn't random like I would
say the average I don't not even mid level, low level,
but headlining early comedian, especially if you're clean, which I
was clean at the time, you'd make about a grand

(55:52):
unless they clumped them together. Now you're doing it for me.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
You get paid more if you're clean.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
You book more if you're clean, because.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
They don't want a lot of just don't want dirty talk.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Absolutely not. In fact, you once you book the gig
and you get this a whole I could write a
book on how to do colleges, but once you get
there you can ask and say, really, that.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
A really good cock joke. Do you guys want it? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (56:16):
Yeah, And it's the same with you know, I do
corporate gigs now too, and they're always like, you book
it because you can do an hour squeaky clean, and
I can and I do and I like it. But
sometimes you get there. Last one I did was for
like liquor salesmen. I'm like, these guys want to and
these men and women would like to hear about this
sex story or whatever it is. They're gonna like it
the sex joke.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
So anyway, there's a section in your new stand up
I'm not for everyone? Is that what it's called?

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Yeah, I am not for everyone.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I am not for everyone where it's not dirty necessarily,
but you speak in a very funny way about uh sexuality? Right?
Is that the way way to put it? And I
just thought it was so funny and interesting. But it
would that be considered But would that section be considered

(57:03):
all rated?

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Yeah? Everything in my new special, with few exceptions, would
be too edgy for a naka. But the great thing
is is because I was raised religious, I fuck naka.
I thought I was going to go to hell if
I was a naughty boy. So I was way ahead of.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
The curve, right, something that's in Crashing and we haven't
touched on and we can. We can just touch on
it briefly. One thing that's interesting about your story is
that you grew up quite religious, correct and then so
part of the story of Crashing is not only is
it Pete's story, he's a young, wide eyed stand up
coming to town, but your character and you grew up

(57:41):
very religious.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
Yeah, and it really is sort of like a I
don't want to say thrown into the wolve's den, but
it had a little flavor of that more because of
how sheltered eye was. And you know, Nate Bargatzi was
there at the same time as me, and he and
I bonded a lot over just like we're you know,
we're afar away from the from the church life, which
which was very sweet and nice. I'm not saying anything

(58:04):
bad about it. Now everybody's you know, doing everything that
you could think, drugs, drinking, and there's a lot of like.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
When you're still a religious man, are you not?

Speaker 7 (58:14):
I'm a spiritu Yeah, it's a spirit deeply spiritual person.
And that and that informs it. You know that we're
changing gears a little bit. But it's like, I think
there's a big difference between dirty and ugly. My comedy
is very dirty, but it's not ugly, and I think
you can do clean comedy that's very ugly. I think
what you should really pick up on, thanks Ton, is
like the undercurrent, like what values, what attitudes and perspectives

(58:39):
are you championing? And if you don't say fuck, it
doesn't matter. Did you just say a man should be
able to hit a woman? Did you kind of like,
let's really reduce what you just said. Isn't that what
you just said? And this could be a clean comic?
And then I go up and I say, like, you're
the joke you're referencing. I think, is you know Kinsey approved.
It's very interesting about the spectrum of sexuality and it's dirty.

(59:03):
I'm talking about jerking off in sacks and all this stuff,
but like, underneath that, I'm saying, we're all in this together.
It's a sexuality strange and it's unifying, Like my goal
is for it to be unifying.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
You never punched down in your and your kind and
there's there's a kindness to your comedy. You're saying some outrageous,
funny things, but you're not taking aim at anybody in
a mean way.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
I appreciate that if I do take a cheap shot
or punch down, even if it's briefly, it's because that's
true to our experience, that everybody has a mind that
occasionally thinks something that you don't approve of, and I
think that's valuable to talk about as well. Meaning like this,
I say this all the time, but the sweetest nun,
the most gentle woman in the world, sometimes is stirring

(59:50):
her coffee and she's like, I don't know why, but
I don't like whatever. You know what I mean, I'm
not I won't say it, but.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Like, oh, I wanted you to go there. And just.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Example I usually give is I'll be on a plane
or something, I'm like, I don't know why, but I
hate the back of this guy's head, like I fucking
hate the shape and fucking this dumb hair. So one
of the unifying things you can do. And I know
I'm having my cake and eat it too. But if
I do make a joke that's cheeky or a little
bit wicked, it's because I'm trying to demonstrate shamelessly and

(01:00:22):
innocently that all of us know how lonely it is
to be stuck in these fucking outdated biological spaceships that
because of the wiring and the pattern recognition and the
judging and the labeling and the consumerism and everything, that
all the impetus that we're constantly being flooded in your brain.

(01:00:42):
It's like a fucking washing machine filled with marbles, and
shit's flying out sometimes, and it's lonely and isolating and
honestly encouraging of dark and weird thoughts to not say, hey,
sometimes I have a thought like this and it's fucking weird.
And if I can use my platform to make people
feel less shame, that's great. And sometimes it might be

(01:01:06):
at the expense of whatever, like some joke that you're
not ooh, that you're not supposed to say that, yeah, okay,
and here we are and here we are. You're also
not supposed to think that, you're not supposed to feel
that you're not supposed to do that, but we do.
I have a joke in my New Hour about taking
my daughter on a carousel, even though my friend like
couldn't find his daughter, and I could have helped him
look for his daughter, but it's a whole story. I'm

(01:01:27):
not proud of that story. They found her, I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Can't find my daughter. Okay, I'm gonna go with that's.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
Exactly the joke. But that to me using a high
status position loud voice, I'm talking, let's go back to
being Bonobo's babies. You know what I mean, loud voice.
I'm up high and I'm in the light. So that's
an alpha position. And to use it instead of championing
myself and telling you all my virtues and all my

(01:01:56):
gloriousness like a dictator and how ineffable I am, instead
being vulnerable enough to be like I should have not
gotten on the carousel. That's more valuable because people are like,
you know what, dude, in this flawed, imperfect thing. Sometimes
I do that, And if and if you can laugh
at me and then still quietly be like I've done

(01:02:19):
stuff like that, that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, that's the most common.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
What is gained if I get up and just tell
you how fucking great I am and how perfect I am.
And you know what I hate most comedy is just
going up on staying and saying, isn't food great? Isn't
sex great? Isn't winning great? Isn't isn't that's it? Isn't
money great?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
It's something I remember back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
It was always there was some women that would come
on stage, a lot of women where my big women
at that shit used to be like the first motherfucking my.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
God, wear my big women at him that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
You know, what I hear constantly is who's drinking? But
that is who's drinking? You guys partying and then you're
into drinking, but that is also Look, I have respect
for anyone doing comedy, so I'm not gonna, you know,
broadstroke dismiss anyone. But if I go on stage and
do a bit about how great alcohol is in a

(01:03:12):
club where everyone's drinking, nothing has happened. People who already
liked alcohol like alcohol. If I can go on stage
and make them, and it doesn't have to be alcohol,
but just kind of like take the other side for
fun and get people to laugh at not even something
that challenges them, but like something a little bit more
interesting than just like, isn't aren't orgasms great? Isn't dopamine great?

(01:03:36):
Isn't you know? Or a story where you go and
I say, get the fuck out of here, clown, and
everyone cheers for me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Well, I thought you did that in spades with the
run you do on sexuality and the Kinsey scale. I
thought it was really funny and interesting and certainly not
something I've seen anyone talk about in a comedy set.
I thought that was really unique.

Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
Thanks, man, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
We'll be right back after these fine words. What are
your parents? Are they alive? What do they think of
your comedy? I imagine they're religious. Still.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
You know what's really really weird is that my parents,
my mom was more was very religious, and that was
I wrote it in my book that my brother and
my dad had sports and me and my mom had Jesus,
and that was like our interest. We knew the stats,
you know, you knew all the stats, all the teams.

(01:04:40):
But like, as my mom's gotten older and I've gotten
older as well, that's how it works. I've gotten way
more spiritual and my mom's gotten a little bit less
interested in that stuff, which which is not you know,
she's eighty two and that's not my favorite. Only I've
said before, I'm like, I wish it would be if

(01:05:00):
my mom would be like comfortable and feel held in
the world and be religious in a way that I
don't share all of those beliefs, but like felt secure
in the universe. That's my hope for her, and that's
why now I push it on her a little bit,
so at the tables of turn. But answer where I
think you were going. My parents don't really know. I

(01:05:21):
think they don't really know what to make of me
to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Do they watch it? Will they watch this new special?

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Yeah, the last one that came out. I think they
watched it with some church friends and then they just
call me and we were so humiliated, and I'm like,
you see, this is full circle, man, because me saying
don't bring your friends is me also saying don't bring
your family. No, it's not about them. And what I
always say to my mom with all love and to

(01:05:50):
my dad as well as I go, it's not for you.
And any artist that's making something with what will my
parents think, isn't giving me all of themselves? And I'm here,
you know, I don't want to, you know, blow my
own horn, what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Blow it to it?

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
But I want to, like mine deep I want to
share humiliations. I want to share vulnerable feelings. I want
to make fun of my parents, you know what I mean. Like,
I spent a lot of my life being like, yes, sir,
and and this is your show and I'm just you know,
I'm one of the one of your crew, you know
what I mean. Like, and it's like, that's fucking over, man,

(01:06:30):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Just talking iry to interrupt you, But that kind of
informs the title. I'm not for everyone. You're saying, I'm
not for mom and dad. No, I'm going to be vulnerable.
I'm going to do my thing. I'm definitely not for everyone.

Speaker 7 (01:06:42):
If it's for everyone, it sucks for everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
It sucks, Amen, And that allowed for the people in back.

Speaker 7 (01:06:49):
That's really true. And dude, you see that in your
films for sure, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
For everyone, but no, but gosh, for the people that
respond to them, it's such as that's the reason you
make them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
They say, that's why we're in this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
We're not in you know, Scrubs was not for everyone.
You know, we're here doing a Scrubs podcast and all
the people listening obviously loved the show, but the show
was never a runaway hit. Every season we were like,
are we coming back? And that happened for nine years.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
I told this to Bill. I was like, that that show.
I know. I said this to Zex's on the pod
three times and I'm sure we've talked about the episode
where j D is wondering how he'll die. He looks
at you, Donald and you're eating a sandwich, and he's like,
heart failure, you know what I mean? And he looks
at him and then he looks at his own reflection

(01:07:37):
and goes, I don't know, stress. I have the chills
as I'm telling you this. I saw that stuff and
I was like, that's what you're supposed to do with
a platform. And again, we watched some popcorn shows. We
watch things that are for we're not you know what
I mean. We don't have to put down other things.
I'm just saying there's a special place. I was just
talking to a comedian where I was like, the money,

(01:08:01):
it's for the discomfort of dealing with the people that
might be like, why did you make that joke about me?
But it's my fucking job. It's my job to risk it.
That's really what the money is for, you know. Bb
King used to say, I do the shows for free.
They pay me to travel. I do the shows for free,
they pay me to deal with the draining feeling. I

(01:08:24):
was just in Salt Lake City. I did four shows.
I come back to the hotel, and I've been, you know,
making fun of my family, making fun of myself, sharing
like I said that story about the carousel, and I'm
just sort of like, you feel what my wife and
I call everybody calls a vulnerability hangover. You feel hollow
and tender. I was just rewatching Phantom Thread when he

(01:08:46):
does his show and then he gets the next day,
it just cuts to him in bed. I don't want
to make it too dramatic here, but I'm like, that's
what the money is for. It's for this feeling of like,
oh my god, I just show my realness to a
lot of people. Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent of voyeur.
Part of me likes being seen and celebrated. But a

(01:09:09):
lot of you goes like, I just really that was real.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I think I first, I love that expression of vulnerability hangover.
I think I felt that every time I release a film.
I feel, of course, I feel like, oh my god,
you rip yourself open uh. And then and then of
course you're you're judged positively or negatively. And then and
then people's watching and they don't and then there's then
there's just quiet and you feel a vulnerability hangover, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
And you feel empty and you feel tender, and you
feel just my wife is so good at it. But
there is like a rebuilding process and that's a whole
other podcast. But like getting your balls right, getting your
family right, having interests outside of this. There's a lot
of people in our town, you know, we never talk

(01:09:57):
about comedy or anything. It's really good for my spirit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
You know. I was about to say, how does that work?

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Like doesn't everyone when it's your profession and you're around
your peers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Do you guys talk about jokes all the time? Are
you on? Is this? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):
Like I wouldn't call it on, you would love it.
That's my answer is it's it's the best hanging with comedians,
especially if they're like minded comedians. There's still some ball
breakers that aren't my favorites. But if I'm hanging out
with Mike bro Bigli or I was just hanging out
Eddief did my podcast today, it's heaven because they especially
guys my age, men and women my age, they've been
through a lot of the same stuff. So you said

(01:10:35):
trenches earlier, but there is a like you're bonded by
having shared this experience and a lot of us we
were doing it alone, and now we all get to
get together and be like that was some shit, right,
and like and support each other and you do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
I have it with you guys right now. But it's
nice to be able to just go it's not weird
if I tell you I'm working on a bed about
this and and just kind of say it and then
they kick it back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I love that with you. When I do Pete's show.
By the way, for interested, I've done like you said,
I've done Pete's Show three times, and you can check
it out. It's called you made it weird?

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
Right In sex defense, we don't say the name of
the show a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Yeah you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
There's no reason you should really know it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I've done it three times. I should be definitive.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
No, I'm saying you shouldn't. Every time you've done it,
I haven't been like, welcome to you made it weird.
I'm here with that, but it never comes up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
But the reason, the reason I keep doing it, honestly, Pete,
and I hope we graduate to being real friends in
real life. But I I just love coming and laughing
with you. I think we have we.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Haven't coming and laughing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
I love coming in that order to the release laughter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I love laughing with you. We have a very someatimes
of humor. And the last time I did it, Donald,
we brought up Glen Gary Glenn Ross and spent the
bulk of the episode just just purely probably poorly quoting
Glengary Glenross.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
I would put it to Mammot himself that it was excellent.
I mean that movie all all my comedian friends, most
of them are obsessed with that movie, and it goes
all the way up to Seinfeld. He's not my friend,
but like I know a lot of comedians that love
that movie because it talks about the brutality of selling
your wares, of like salesmen that have to use their
personalities to like kind of get ahead. So of course

(01:12:25):
comedians would relate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Well, they must have loved our episode, Pete, because that's
mostly what we talked about.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
Yeah, Jodo Ros and I text each other exclusively in Glengarry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Quotes, Yeah, I've exhausted the only gifts available on I
message to you. I believe there's only a couple. There's
always closing going to Safari. Yeah, you help me find
better Glen Glen Ross gifts. Yeah, Pete, thank you so
much for coming on. I Am not for everyone. Is
on Netflix on October twenty fourth. That's right, not a

(01:12:55):
question mark, an exclamation point and audience, I'm telling you.
I saw this live with Bill Lawrence and I. I
remember it was a holiday, right, Pete was Labor Day
or Memorial Days, one of those days, and we were
both kind of tired, and we said, let's go. It's
Pete's hilarious. It'll be great, and we went and I
genuinely laughed my butt off. It's so funny and so smart,

(01:13:19):
and I encourage you all to check it out. Thanks man, Donald,
say something nice about Pete.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
Donald, You're welcome anytime. He's salty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah, Donald, come, don Are you willing to talk about
Are you to talk about Star Wars? Where are you
on Star Wars? Because that's Donald's favorite thing to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
He knows Bill, he knows Bill Burr. He was in
Star Wars. That's how I found out who Bill Burr was.

Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
Actually, because he was in The Mandalorian.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Because he was on the Mandalorian, I was like, who
is this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Pete? Could you fill an hour with Donald talking about
here the key?

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I had been watching him like on the Chappelle Show
back in the day and all that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
Oh yeah, that Racial Draft.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Yeah, if you can do Marvel Star Wars stop motion
animation as a focus. Uh, sports basketball. If you could
fill an hour with that, Donald will crush your podcast. Uh,
bag of dits.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
No, I'm not gonna We're not gonna go into that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Pete Holmes, we love you. The special is called I
Am Not for everyone. Yeah, but Pete, in my mind,
you're for me.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
You're definitely, and that's what we've learned. Thank you, definitely,
really really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
You are fucking Batman dude, you are bad.

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
Thank you? Oh yeah, the Batman series is on YouTube now.
We're dropping every Thursday. By the time this comes out,
they might all be out, but we're firing everybody on theh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Why didn't you ask Donald or me to be a
character and that fucking thing.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
If we thought Donald would do it, leave you out
of it. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Yeah, I did your funny Friends, but I never got
the email.

Speaker 7 (01:14:46):
You'd be great. I mean we we still have a
lot of people to fer. We need a riddler. We
could do riddler, we can do. We want to do
poison Ivy commissioner Gordon.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Who could Donald?

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah you could.

Speaker 7 (01:14:59):
Be Gordon, Yeah you could be modern Gordon. But Mat
McCarthy is our Gordon. We already you already got Sorry,
who can Donald be? That's a great Gordon, the newest Gordon.
I don't know, but the Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Impressions you do a nice you. You don't do impressions
on stage, but you are pretty good at impressions.

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
They come out sometimes and it evolved from good to
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
And do you want to give us a quick al pacino?
And then we have to go.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
Pete, I want to say you thank you so much
for having me on his podcast. It's been wonderful to
sit with my friend zach Rath and Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Or I'll give.

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
I like my aides to be presentable. I've gone with
my mouth. That's shore taking it out. It's a little
bit better without the gun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Al. We usually end the show by counting five to
six seven eight. Would you count us out? Five six,
seven eight is Alpha shooting? Hell yeah A five six.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Here's some stories that show we made about a bunch
of times and nurses in Jana, I said, here's a
story net. All s no, so gadder round you here,
our gadder round you here, our sweat show. Is that no,

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