302: My Journey with Scott Foley

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, what is up your little a little tardy? Don't worry.
We had a ten minute conversation without you. That's great.
Did you record it and it's going to be on
the show? No, because Joel started saying funny ship, and
I was like, save it for the show, Joel, save
it for the show. What she gotta save for the show?
You what? I'm not telling you. I'm gonna work it

(00:21):
seamlessly into conversation. That's what a good podcast. Okay, how
are you my friend? I'm good. How are you playing tennis?
I wish I'm trying to get back to I I
I you asked you saying because of the shirt, Um,
I wish. Maybe I'm secreting it. Maybe I'm manifesting that
I want to play tennis again by wearing the shirt.
Our friend Amanda Clutes has gotten addicted. She's like, you know,

(00:43):
after Nick's death, she said she and this, by the way,
Amanda clus is the queen of manifestation. She's like, I
want to get into a new hobby that helps me
not only take my mind off of it, but is
something I can just embrace and it's a new thing.
And she chose tennis and she plays twice week, and
I watched her videos on she started from zero and
she's like getting that, she's getting good quick. Well, she's

(01:07):
an athlete, she's athletic. She's got that athletic and you know,
because it's Amanda, she's all into the outfits. So every
week is a different like tennis outfit, you know, just
as into the outfits as she isn't in tennis, which
I am too, by the way, which I am to
look good, play good. That's how it goes. I I,
you know, because I never played a sport and I
love tennis and I'm not that good at it, but
I still don't give a funk. I love it. So yeah,

(01:29):
I was for my first time in my life. I
was like, Okay, let me get some dope tennis clothes. Yeah,
you are. It's nothing like looking in the mirror with
your sport of choice in, you know, whether it be
a basketball or a hockey stick, or a golf club
or a tennis right. So do you get all into
golf clothes because I never see what you wear on
the golf course. I was originally and then now not

(01:50):
so much. Uh. You know. P x G. The fine
people over at p x G hook a brother up
with some really nice clothes every now and then and
saying picks. Since you're getting all these free shoutouts from Donald,
I don't know why you're doing it once in a while.
I mean, send this fucking dude the giant box, I
mean several boxes. Maybe not curing. I'm sorry, p x G.

(02:14):
If we're gonna give you free advertising for golfwear, I
want to fucking truck to back up again. Oh sorry,
I'm very passionate about this. Donald and I used to
go to Nike, this Nike store, this hidden Nike store
in Marina del Ray. Donald was the one who introduced
me to this because I was not famous obviously before Scrubs.

(02:35):
Donald was. And he's like, oh, dude, you have no
idea what's coming. And you go to this secret Nike
town in Marina del Rey, right, Donald, And picture a
giant Nike town that you've been in, except picture there's
no cash register and you're just like that. That that,
and a woman's walking around, very nice and she's just

(02:57):
on her little iPad making notes. Shout out and Racy,
shout out Tracy from Nike. Shout out Tracy from Nike.
Although we haven't heard from you in a minute, Tracy,
have been off there for a while. So anyway, they
give you a ton of free night because they just
want you out and about wearing Nike. And then on
Scrubs they would always send this tons of Nike. But
I but I remember when we were on scumes and

(03:18):
I did a play with Jimmy Smits and he had
been on Law and Order forever and I was showing
off my new Nike ship to him and he's like, oh, Tracy,
and I go yeah, yeah, he goes, yeah. That kind
of stops when you're off your TV show. I was like,
and in my head, I'm thinking like, oh, Jimmy Smits,
not mean while I haven't heard from Tracy forever. Good

(03:44):
times anyway, So I still am loyal the Nike. I
gotta say, even though I don't get the free swag anymore.
I I I love Nike sneakers. Yeah same here, I
still buy I buy now. You know. Yeah, we're making it.
We're making it up for all the free times. High friends.
Welcome to the program, fake doctors, real friends. We have

(04:07):
a very exciting guests. The most handsome man in television
is here, Scott fully today to talk about sea World
and all things Sarah Chalk. Are we gonna talk about
sea World? Are we gonna really get into what sea
World turned into after our scrubs up sub Sea World
didn't turn into anything. It was always that we didn't
know that I know, and I think we should talk

(04:29):
openly about all things sea World, what our impressions were
after watching the documentary Blackfish. I mean, I don't even
want to go to zoos anymore. I feel as I understand,
I totally understand if you're already yelling at you're listening
to Vice going Zach. My kids love zoos. I get it.
It might it might be a blast to take a
child to a zoo. But I'm telling you, as an adult,

(04:51):
and even maybe after the documentary black Fish, I look
at zoos totally differently these days. Absolutely, you're bringing fully
because um or do you want to see? How do
you want to do it? There's so much to talk about. Donald.
We have to talk about our voting thing, which is
which is often running. Go to headcount dot org slash
Zach and Donald to register to vote or to check

(05:12):
your registration. I've been so happy today, Donald, because on
my Instagram. There's been so many people saying stuff like,
you know, I was just doing this to give you
guys some points towards your goal of the Apple TEENA
making and I realized they had my middle name wrong.
You totally helped me out. Or someone said, you know what,
I've never voted, but because of this, okay, I'll register.
Like we're even if it's like small and anecdotal dial

(05:33):
we're making a tiny difference. Interviews. Oh yeah, Joel telling
your story. Yeah, so I moved and I stopped driving,
and so I don't have a California state driver's license anymore.
And that is how you get automatically registered out here.
So I too, was just doing my producer due diligence,
be like, oh, I wonder if there'll be any hiccups,
or like it's a very smooth process. By the way,

(05:54):
there are no hippus smooth and uh. So I checked
and it was like, you're not registered, and I was like, no,
it's very wet registered. Donald, I would have cried so hard.
It would have been really upset. If I couldn't have voted.
I would have been so shocked and I would have
called you a hypocrite. For not checking on your stuff.
But and but and but thankfully, Joel, you did your

(06:16):
due diligence. You did what you had to do. And
you and you and you and you and you registered
to vote. Therefore, Zach, we are fourteen hundred and we
don't know. I'm waiting here anyway. This is gonna air Thursday, obviously,
and it's Tuesday today. I have no idea where we are.

(06:37):
But we just launched today. But I'm I'm I'm all excited.
It isn't the red bull talking. I'm really am titilated.
Did you have a red bull again today? I had
a red bull? I I spawn on Peloton. Did you
did you spend today? I didn't have been doing school
all more on, buddy, You're supposed to be my spin buddy.
I will spend later. I'm sorry to be my spin partners.
We can track our progress eventually when I'm when I'm

(06:59):
good enough, I can look at your user name and
I can be like fast dude. You can send high fives,
you know, you can send virtual high five high five
out of you, and I will accept your high fives
and high five virtually high five you back. Let's get
Let's get Scott foldy up, all right, bring in Folly. Well,
maybe we'll let him counts in. It's a good idea.

(07:21):
Oh my god, the thunderous applause. Dan Scott Polly turned
my key, I turned my key, Scott actually, Scott Folly,
Oh my god. You know you know why, you know why,
you know why. It's even harder to look at Scott
fully because Donald and I med a video to get
people to vote Scott fully and uh, and a handful

(07:43):
of people are like, wow, you got old, and it
really hurts, It really hurts, and uh, and they say
they say negative things and and they always put the
emoji of the crying laughing thing. Right, I d to
be like just kidding kind of ship. And it's like,
I I don't like you right if we were, if

(08:03):
we were, if this were a real world, we wouldn't
be friends because you told me I now look old.
I'm forty five. We made the show when I was twenty.
What do you want for men? Fully? Sorry, welcome to
the program. Thanks man. Are you saying that I look old? No? No,
I'm saying I get triggered. I get triggered by looking

(08:25):
at your beautiful face. About the gray in my beard
because you wear a well you're fucking TV Scott Fully.
Look how handsome he is. Donald, He's very handsome. I've
known this for a really long time. Though I've known
this forever. Where did he put you on the spot?
The only reason Scott Fully comes on the show is
because we spend the first ten minutes talking about hotties.

(08:46):
Because my life, my I spend my life with my
wife was like, go do something productive, and she doesn't
care what I look like anymore. Where are you? Scott Fully?
He's in theater. He's got to be a movie theater.
I'm in my movie theater. Are you really? No? Man? No,

(09:08):
where are you Scuffully? I'm in my movie theater. Am
we got a screening room? By the way. I totally
thought he was being stupid, and then you and then
you said it's sort of like, yeah, I'm in my
movie theater. And then he spins the camera around to
reveal his fucking dope screening room. I had the hint

(09:31):
was the Scream three uh poster in the background. I
was like, yeah, are you in Scream three? Scuffully? Are
you kidding? I was in that that third one? Yes,
I was Donald have you seen Scream three? I've seen three? Yes,
I have. Really, yeah, dude, have you seen Scream? We
were okay, we were doing for listening around the time

(09:53):
you were doing Scream three. That's right, that's right, that's right, yes,
I I look, here's the excuse for the screening room
is I just moved from l A to the East
coast where things are much more affordable over here, and
you can get a house with a screening room. Well
where not gradually? No? Not not New York City, Connecticut? Okay, Well,
now why did you move for in Connecticut? Right now?

(10:15):
I'm in Connecticut right now, and you've got a movie
theater that quick? You do? You don't? Your money travels fast? Man?
To be scott Fully, he can have a fucking screening room, bro,
he was. He was just in Calabasa's like five days ago.
It seems like now all of a sudden he lives
in Connecticut. And was this for work or for just
life change? Just a life change, you know, with with

(10:37):
everything happening in the world. My wife has has wanted
to be close to her family for years now, and
I you know, what do you do? You can only
fight with your wife for so long. So I was like, yeah, sure,
so you're one of the people that moved out of California,
that's me and and it seems like maybe at the
right time. Yeah, well, I'm not going to allow you
to ship talk California. It's got Fully, it's nine today

(10:58):
and it's uh no, no, no, no, it's a it's
a hundred degrees to degrees today, and it's the valley.
It's probably gonna be one forty over there. It's gonna
get up to one, uh oh, three or four today.
I'm not gonna let you ship talk the valley here. Sorry, sorry,
but Scott, Fully, it does get hotter in the valley.
I mean, come on, it does. But a hundred and

(11:19):
forty let's be let's be honest here, maybe right, that's
the record bright. You can feel it when you drive
from Hollywood over the hill in the valley all of
a sudden you rolled on your windows and you're like, oh, oh,
it's hotter here, it's hotter there. That definitely is. But
I do I do miss it a little bit. But
I'm happy to be here on a nice rainy day
in Connecticut with you guys. We're so happy to have

(11:42):
you you know, when we first had you on, I said,
we've got to have Scott back when he forlornly rds
a dolphin, which is one of my favorite moments in
Scrubs history. I didn't realize it was coming up so
quickly here the second episode of the third season. Um,
but there it is. You were forlornly riding a dolphin.
I was forlornly, right. I didn't realize it was coming

(12:03):
up so quickly either. And I haven't seen that episode
and probably ten years, and I watched it today with
my wife before this podcast, and when that scene came on,
was like, babe, babe, forlornly. I was that see that?
She was like? The reason was that the direction Marke
Spiller gave you. No, that's in the screen direction. It
was written in the script Sean forlornly rides of dolphins. Yeah,

(12:30):
that's why I love it. It It was in the script.
Well well done, well thanks. It's, by the way, it's
harder to do than you would expect, because you're so
excited to actually be writing a dolphin to turn to
turn that excitement other than happiness, Scott. Are you saying
that one of the hardest acting moments you've had to

(12:51):
do turn your your utter glee and writing a dolphin
into being forlorn. Yes, imagine getting the opportunity to be
at Sea World, to be in the tank, writing a dolphin,
holding onto the fin, and to I have to act
like you're not the happiest man in the world. More
for Lawrence got more? Yeah, I mean you know that,

(13:14):
you you You listeners who love the show never got
to read some of the screen direction, which was often
funny and uh and I think one of the best
lines ever was in the script Sean for lorn Lee
rides a dolphin. Yeah. Yeah, And and you know Mr
Lawrence will tell you that it is still to this
day one of his favorite screen directions that he's ever
written or read. I don't know if you wrote it.

(13:36):
He loves it. Okay, I have a question. Are you
still doing school in l a and stuff like that? Then? No,
they go to school here. Public school is good here. Donald,
How long how long have you been in Connecticut? For? Uh?
Two months? Two months? You know? Donald? If you bring
your kids to Connecticut and then you can send in
the public school, all that extra money goes to a
nice screening room. Well, yeah, I mean, let's be honest

(13:59):
with every one out there. If you live in California,
you're probably playing way more than you would pay anywhere
else in the country for a housing and a place
to live. So not in Manhattan. But yeah, well come on, man,
I mean that that's the other place. If you're on
either coast and you live in San Francisco or freaking
uh just the state of California alone, or the or

(14:21):
the island of Manhattan, right, the Island of Manhattan, you
are paying out that fuck just the host noth in
the Island of Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, all the
all the five boroughs, all the boroughs. If you live
on one of those things, you're paying out your ass man.
And so yeah, Connecticut I would love to move to.

(14:42):
I remember when Connecticut was like the rich people. I
mean Scott's rich obviously, but I mean he got a
movie theater. He got a movie theater. He got a
movie theater. You can't say you got there. How am
I putting him on blast? He got a movie theater.
It's not like a ler. He doesn't have Farnsworth, Bentley
and in Walks Jeeves. Right, So you're Walter, Now I'm

(15:09):
busy Walter fully, Um, Donald, we never started the saying
the theme song, do you want to do? You want
to lead us in song? I think should do it?
Scott fully? Do you know how to count into a song? Um?
By saying five six seven eight it's an honor we
only bestow on certain people. He did it last time.
Oh I forgot, I'm sorry five six seven eight about

(15:33):
show we made about a bunch of dots and nurses
and said, stories around here are yeah, around here are Scott.

(15:56):
We've been talking a little more about fitness lately because
Donald and I are trying to get in shape. We've
entered the quarantine phase where we're trying to get in shape.
We've both been spinning using peloton. We've both been working
out a bit. You've always seemed like a super fit guy.
How do you what's your what's your regiment for the
people who are you know? We also had a lot
of people in all seriousness that have told us they

(16:17):
listen to the podcast while they walk. It's got them doing,
you know, beginning the process some of the hike or
they cycle or whatever they do. It's got the moving
a bit. One guy we had on the show said
he lost thirty pounds since the show started. So we've
kind of excited that we're monivating people a little bit.
And I wondered if you if you could tell people
what you're up to because you're always in shape. Oh,
that's very kind of you. I think. I think the
trick is seeming to always be in shape, isn't it? Um?

(16:42):
Um No, man, you know I've been uh I. One
of the great things I think about doing what we
do is that you sort of have to keep yourself
in a uh some semblance of physical fitness, right and
and I've been lucky enough to um have trainers throughout
the years that have uh off and on that have
taught me what to do and how to keep myself

(17:04):
in shape and how to get sort of camera ready
should I need to in a certain amount of days. Um.
But my my daily routine is pretty simple. As as
I'm sitting in front of you. I'm forty eight years old.
So I wake up every morning and can't move because
I'm sore everywhere. So I wake up and I stretched
for probably fifteen twenty minutes, just basic touching the toes

(17:25):
sort of yoga stuff downward dog, and then I'll probably
spend twenty minutes either on the peloton or on an
elliptical machine. I also got a rowing machine. That's the
other thing about buying a house in Connecticut. You got
a gym in your house? Yeah? Wait, so you got
a movie theater and a gym in your house? Yeah, Connecticut, Donald, Yeah, Um,
let's both move there. Um, this is a weird tribute.
Did you get I don't have I don't I don't

(17:47):
have a pool. I don't even have a I don't
have a pool. Well you have forty thou children, scott Um.
Did you get into rowing because of Tony Goldman, our friend?
Because he's that's his That's how he keeps fit. That
is how he keeps fit. Tony is a good rower
and a really sort of avid jogger as well. I
did not. I found it. Uh what did I find out?

(18:08):
I was in when we were shooting Whiskey Cavalier in Prague.
I needed some sort of exercise equipment in the place
I went. The guy was like, I have rowing machine,
and I was like, well, I guess that's what I'm
gonna take. And that was that was how I got started.
And I only do. It's tough, Like you can't do
twenty minutes, dude, and you're it's exhausting. So I do, like,

(18:31):
you know, five minutes in the beginning of a workout,
five minutes at the end, just sort of keep the
heart rate up. Tony Goldman, who was the President United
States in in Scott's fancy show Scandal, Um and I
made a film together and he was always ripped. I
don't know how old he is now, but he's like
the most ripped guy, uh in his over fifty that
I know. Unicorn for his age. Yeah, well, yeah, for

(18:57):
his age, I'm sure. Yeah. And he's also not not
not to move international movie star with, you know, probably
a trainer every day and a chef every day. You know,
he does it all on his own, and for the
most part it was a rolling machine. What are you
smiling at, Scott? Am I wrong? He has a chef, trainer.
He's a Goldwin. I mean you gotta remember, oh yeah,
his grandmother is Samuel Goldwan. No, he is. Tony's a

(19:19):
unicorn though, like it was always the thing on Scandal.
I'd have a shirts off scene, like a love scene
with Kerry Washington, and Tony would be a craft service
with his shirt off, eating donuts like just to make
me feel like a big piece of ship. Uh. He's
an amazing human. But the it just doesn't it doesn't
work like that for most people. You know. It's it
takes work, It takes a lot of commitment. I'm I

(19:42):
think the older you get, the more time you gotta
put in, the more time it takes to lose whatever
you gained. That's right for all of us, except for Donald.
What are you talking about. I'm the heaviest I've ever
been in my life. Yeah, he's thick. People on the
Instagram said, he's th h I c C. I don't
even know what that means. That that that's that's that
good thick. That's that good. That's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(20:02):
that's that good thick. Now this is that time. This
is that time during the pandemic where it's been like
six months and we all should be in shape by now,
but we're realizing like, oh, oh this might end soon
and I'm gonna be a big fatty right, I'm gonna
be a beast. Yeah, but it's all you also were
called swollen, Donald, What does that mean? It means my

(20:23):
muscles are freaking swollen. Okay, so you were getting indirect compliments.
I thought they were disses. I was called old and
you were called swollen and thick. Yeah. I was also
called freaking the dude from West World. So yeah, by me,
that was funny, though not just you, not just you.
People like somebody called me uncle Phil. He was taller

(20:53):
than you though, right, much taller than yeah. Yeah, yeah,
oh my god, that's funny. First things, first, rest in peace,
Uncle Phil. You don't look like you do. You do
look like um what's his name? But he's very handsome
and he's a very fine actor. Uh, okay, thank you
Jeffrey right. I love that. I love that you said

(21:14):
that about him. You do look like Jeffrey Wright, except
that he is a handsome man. That somebody said, I said,
you do look like Jeffrey right, And not only is
he a handsome man in my estimation, but he's also
a phenomenal actor. I think that's a compliment. Saying look
like Uncle Phil is a bit of a Disrest in peace,
Uncle Phil. Uncle Phil has loved throughout the world. Uncle
Phil raids mad kids, man. Uncle Phil rais mad kids

(21:38):
just by being Uncle Phil. On television. Okay, I'm just
saying that I'd rather be called Jeffrey right than Uncle Phil,
but you might be different for you. No, man, he's
one of the best in the history of TV. Whenever
Donald and I take a picture together these days, Scott,
they say things like, Wow, Donald an age black, don't crack?
What happened is Zach? And it hurts my hurts my heart?

(21:59):
Cage in the rhymes, Well, everybody really rhymes. Was about
to say everything rhymes. That's why they do that ship dude, Wow,
Donald looks good, Black, don't crack? What happened to Zach?
I told you I could freestyle Donald should Oh yeah,
so Donald? These days, Scott, I don't know if we
had this feature when you were on last Donald does

(22:19):
a thirty seven Summation's supposed to be uh, it's roughly
thirty seconds, but he never hits that goal, and we
don't penalize him in any way even though we should.
I have heard it, and I'm very impressed with with
with actually the time you've been putting into your summaries

(22:39):
and the fact that you get it all out and
they're usually I say that because I haven't heard all
of them. But the ones I've heard are spot on
my friend, Oh boy, here we go, and on that note,
here we go. He's right, he's right, he's right, all right,
Ready and go. Turk and Carla have set the date
for their wedding. J D Fierce his friendship to Turk
will not have to take a back seat to his

(23:00):
US frinds future. Just when Elliott switches up her style,
she's revisited by an old flame, and Laburne is in
desperate need of a dentist. This episode is about how
hard relationships are to manage. The expectations are so high,
and you make yourself so vulnerable, and there are so
many distractions and other commitments and responsibilities to have in

(23:23):
a relationship. But when you truly have someone, you make
it work. You sacrifice. Amen. I like that one because
it is about sacrifice. Um. But let's get to the headline,
which is the Turk's homophobic I would have never guess,
I wouldn't. I never remember this either. Dude never comes

(23:44):
out of nowhere, not to dis our overlord Mr William
van Deuser, Lawrence the Third or the fourth, whatever the
hell he is. But I didn't understand why all of
a sudden Turk's homophobic. I mean, he shows no signs
of that in the first two seasons. He's as close
with with his best friend as can be. Um. We
we we we we were very open with our with

(24:08):
our feelings, and we're very open with our ability to
hug and touch each other. And then all of a sudden,
Turk's homophobic. I didn't get it, did you. I didn't
get it. I didn't get it either. I was very
caught off god by that. I think it was more
of a reason to have Uh. I don't know. I
don't I can't explain it. I can't. I can't explain
this to you. I can't explain why Autumn nowhere, all

(24:28):
of a sudden Turk was homophobic. Yeah, I didn't get it.
And then and then it solved so quickly, like so
then the guy kind of confronts him and like, it
seems like you're not really comfortable with this. And then
then you do something a homophobic person probably wouldn't do.
Down on the bed, get on the bed right up
next to him and get sort of intimate, and you're

(24:50):
like and then you talk about your fear of intimacy,
which is bullshit. You haven't had any fear of intimacy
thus far. I don't know. I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't understand. I was caught off god by this and
I and remember this either. That was the other thing.
It was like, wait a second, I don't remember any
of this from I know. It was really bizarre. And
I also noticed that when the guy's partner comes in

(25:10):
and says goodbye, good luck on your surgery, he kisses
him on the forehead. Yeah, like like like who would
never do that? Your your your partners going into surgery
and you're saying goodbye and you give him It was
such like a It felt like such a vestige of
two thousand and two television, like let's have that kiss
beyond the forehead, right, the forehead sets plenty, trust me,

(25:32):
you can imagine like the networking like foreheads good thank you.
I was impressed though, even even though you didn't you
don't remember it, And that was one of the questions
I had for you in this, like was it a
surprise when you read it, because it seems like the
friendship you and j D and Turk and j D

(25:53):
have towes that line um at certain points. You know what,
I mean, but that said, you had some actions in
there that made me laugh out loud. Yeah, I mean,
I cringed at the fact that I cringed out a
lot of my reactions because they were reactions to these
two men and their love for each other, you know

(26:14):
what I mean. Like I at one point, I even
make the face like it's almost nauseating. Yeah, I mean,
and it was like a second, what the fuck? Like
this really comes out of nowhere. And I'm sure back
back when we shot this, I was thinking, you know,
this will be groundbreaking, We're gonna talk about, you know,
homosexuality on television, and I'm so happy to be the

(26:37):
character that has to learn this lesson, you know what
I mean. And but when you look back at it now,
at the whole, you know, at the show as a
as a full circle or as a as a thing,
it doesn't fit. It's like it's like it doesn't a
little out of place, like someone else should have been
the one to be needing to learn that lesson. It
certainly didn't feel like it was Turk's lesson to learn,

(26:58):
like it might have been, Like I don't even think
it's I don't even think Rob would learn that I
don't even because we learned that the Todd. One thing
that's funny about the Todd is that you think he's
just a gross alpha male sexual innuendo guy for for
for women, And then we turned out, no, he's into men,
he's in the old people, he's moysto monkeys. He's down

(27:21):
with a monkey like everything's he never hooks up with
a monkey. He just asked, where is said monkey? He says,
where is said monkey? There's a monkey at a monkey
has a monkey at the zoo that is something like
biting biting another monkey on the butt or something like that,
something fresh that the monkey was doing, either to another
monkey or two people who came to visit the monkey.

(27:43):
And Rob was like, no, sorry. The Todd was like,
I want to go and have this happened to me?
Where is said monkey? Where is said monkey? He said?
His actual line was, kid, listen to me right now.
Where is said monkey? That said though, and I know
we're not at that part of the show, but we're

(28:04):
talking about it like I did. I thought it was
a great bit that I didn't see coming when we
first met the patient. The fact that that they were
basically your doppelgangers, right, yeah, like I didn't. I didn't.
I didn't know I was. I was like, is that
Josh Grobin? And then when I realized it was when
I realized it wasn't and was supposed to look like Zack.
It wasn't until his black husband came in. I was like,

(28:26):
oh oh, and they were dressed simily. I got it. Yeah,
but that like made Turk look wins. He like looked like,
oh my god, it was so weird. I didn't. It's yeah,
I didn't get it either. Let's talk about Marsha Brady
and my fantasy that I'm getting married to uh because
Sarah Sarah Elliott says that she's already picked your wedding date,
which is funny because it's as six, which at the

(28:47):
time I think this was two thousand two, was supposed
to see him far away. Um, it's it's it's Mary McCormick,
not Marsha Brady. I know, but the joke Marcia please,
but that's the joke. She goes, we're getting the priest
is marrying us, and she goes. He goes, do you
take Marcia Brady and he goes mine. She goes, my
name is Marie McCormick and I go, Marcia, please continue,

(29:12):
father Marsia please. I love that. That was all she
was in like that? Was it just the one little
fantasy flashback and then we're done? Does she come back
and do another Does she do another episode? I don't
think so. I think this is it. But man, I
did you of the Brady? Did you have a crush
on Marsha Brady? One of you? That's the that's the
Brady to have a crush on. I thought she was

(29:33):
so cute when I was a kid. She was, Yes,
she was still still is. I was about to say
she's beautiful in this episode. Yeah, beautiful, man, beautiful. I
didn't have a crush on Jan though, I really was.
I don't think anyone really had a jan crush. Well
I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm sure there's gotta
be somebody did. There's probably a Facebook group people who

(29:53):
have we do love Jan. Oh. By the way, I
should mention I wanted to tell you there is a
Facebook group for this podcast that we're doing here apparently,
um and I want I think it's lovely if you
want to be involved with it. I just wanted to
make sure everyone involved with it knows we have nothing
to do with it. We don't read it, we don't
endorse it. Neither. Donald and I messed with Facebook at all,

(30:15):
other than to go on there occasionally and say, hey,
please check this out. But um so, by all means
enjoyed the Facebook group or get an arguments like people
do on Facebook, but just know that Donald and I
don't have anything to do with it. Yeah, I can't
post anything now without people getting into arguments like that's
welcome too, Holy caw. You post something and right underneath

(30:38):
it it's like, you know, argument, argument, argument, argument, argument,
and it's like salacious to like just evil things people
are saying to each other, like you know, it's crazy.
I did want to talk about breaking a break to Oh, Scott,
you're not supposed to look at the chats for guests, Scott.

(30:58):
She sent the chat out and I've just I said
a timer to see how long it would be till
either when you guys got it home. That was making
me uncomfortable. You are you are a guest, Scott. Your
job that's that's like you came over and adjusted our job.
This is not your job. If it's hot in your house.
I'm gonna adjust your You don't touch my ship. You
don't touch it. That's like me getting in your car

(31:19):
and touching your radio. Damnit, I don't do that, ship, don't.
I think you've done that. I think you've got in
my car and said, what the funk are we listening to?
And push this? And then I said it was Kenny
Loggins and you're like, oh wow, and he went back
to it. I love it, do love Kenny Loggins. No,
man is the guests like Sarah Chawk and Scott floy

(31:40):
just coming and start reading the fucking producer chat. Well,
you know what, we'll go to break, we'll be right back.
You're happy, yes, and we're bad. That really loud, dude,

(32:01):
that was You have such balls to tell me. I'm loud.
Really you were the loudest we There are women who
breastfeed who write me on my chat saying why why
do they? Why? Why does why does what they're doing?
Why does breastfeeding have anything to do with how? Because
they've got the baby suckling, and maybe they're listening to
earphones and then you go full loud and the baby's

(32:23):
like adjusting. He breaks his latch. He looks up. What
the funk is that? And you ruined everything. It's hard
to get a good latch back. Yeah, it's hard to
get a good latch back. Donald. You should know that,
especially on those beautiful melted hooks. Is you're frozen? Donald
is frozen right now. He's not frozen visually, He's frozen

(32:45):
for some reason. Listening to our podcast is a very
popular activity for breastfeeding moms. I hear about it a lot.
That is okay, Well to all the breastfeeding parents. If
I've messed up your if I've broken the latch, I apologize.
I am so sorry. But Zack, that was pretty loud.

(33:05):
Just I'm sorry. Well we are back, everybody, and let's
talk about Sea World, guys, because um, I remember being
pissed that I didn't get to go to Sea World. Man,
I remember being so upset about that. Now I used
to love Sea World as a child. Because I hadn't
seen this documentary Blackfish. Well everyone, SeaWorld for everybody, every eye.

(33:25):
I'm surprised SeaWorld can still pay the rent. To be honest.
After Blackfish, that felt like I was gonna sort of
end SeaWorld, don't you see Blackfish? And then go to
Sea World. Ever again, Well, dude, I mean, come on, man,
look at the look at the country. You're you're a Democrat,
and you didn't think that America would vote for Donald
Trump and they voted for Donald Trump. You know what

(33:46):
I mean? This is just how it is. But it's
not just a maga people going to See World. I
mean they're they're still they're still up and running. There's
a there's enough people that saw blackfish and we're like, yeah,
I'm fine with it. Yeah that you're exactly right, that's
exactly right. I think you're right. I think enough people
saw blackfish. We're in San Diego or Florida. I was like,
what the hell do I do with my three little
kids today? Fuck it, I'm going to Sea World, Lego Land,

(34:10):
Lego Land. Well, I don't know, you know what I mean, Like,
it's the way of the world. For every for every
issue that you have with something, there are just as
many there's somebody else who has the exact opposite issue. Man,
It's it's just well, I'll only speak for me in
saying the following. When I was a kid, I loved
Sea World. I thought it was so exciting and I

(34:31):
didn't love roller coasters and ship when I was a kid,
So a theme park that didn't involve you, um, going
on roller coasters for me was extra cool. Like I
also love Universal Studios, even though that has I think
I might have coasters. That has a couple. Anyway, I
love the movie. I love movies, and I love behind
the scenes and all that. And also I should say,
as an adult at twenty whatever I was when I
went with Scott and Sarah down to film this stuff,

(34:53):
it was so exciting. Um, So I want to I
want to sort of not conflate two things because some
of these biologists that we what do you call them? Biologists?
What do you call these people? Some of these marine
biologists that that I met, and Scott can speak to
it better than I because he was working closer with
them than I was. They were so cool and the
animals were so smart, and we got to be behind

(35:14):
the scenes of it all and it was really really cool.
And I don't I don't mean to say for a
second that a lot of these people who work there
aren't well intentioned. Um, but when I saw Blackfish the documentary,
it really, really really it just goes to the power
of a documentary and what it can do to your brain,
because it made me go, I can't. These animals are
too smart and too large to be used as show ponies.

(35:34):
It's just not. It's not ethically right. Well, it's not
just it's just not. It's not just whales though, it's
every animal in captivity. If you look, if you're looking
at it that way, man, no, no animal is meant
to be. Well. The thing that, the thing that, the
thing that distinguished it for me was that how intelligent
these uh, these killer whales were. You eat octopus sushi?

(35:57):
I don't eat octopus sushi. Have you ever eat not
to push sushi? I've tried octopus, not sushi, I've had
it cooked. Did you know an octopus is so smart
that it could take the top off of a of
a of a like a plastic bottle, I'm sure, and
go inside and go inside and then take the top
and turn it back. I don't know if they can

(36:18):
do that, they can turn the top back. I'm just saying, dude,
I'm just saying, why would you do that? I'm just saying,
they're really smart. No, I know, I know, I know,
and and and listen, it's one of the reasons I
stopped eating meat. And I'm not I'm not here to
like preach to everybody and say, you know, obviously, do
whatever that funk you want. But I'm just saying for
me and Scott, I want to hear what you think
because you were there with me too, did you do

(36:40):
and you saw the documentary? I mean it, It would
be just I would be remiss to to talk about
this episode and not say, like, I have a totally
different view of C World these days. No, of course,
of course we. I think we all do. I think. Look,
if you would have asked us when we were there,
it didn't. We all grew up with C World, we
grew up with zoos, and it was it was not

(37:02):
so much. We looked at it from a different angle. Right,
it was educational for us to see to be around
these animals and these creatures and they were doing things
and you could see them and touch them and be
around them, and it was nature. Right, it was nature.
We got to be with nature and it was a
good thing. And then this other angle came out, a

(37:25):
more important angle, which was, hey, yeah, it's nature, but
it's really fucking cruel. And look at what's happened. Look
at the the thin on the dorsal fin on the
orchid's supposed to be standing straight up, but all these
shamus are bending over because they're so sad and they're
captive and they're eating their trainers. You know, they're not
happy about it. Um. Obviously we did not. Look. I

(37:50):
think there are a bunch of issues that once things
get reflected in a different light, you are able to
say like, oh, wow, that's not great, or I now
see that that's not great. However, at the time we
shot this, we didn't have that perspective. No, we didn't.
We did not. But also it kind of changed my
perspective on on zoos as well. Now I know the

(38:12):
I know the I know the other other side of
this debate is well, zach, it educates people and children
on animals and their habitats and helps educate people animal
preservation and all that and and yep, but I mean,
I don't know. I mean, I'm please, please, I'm no expert.
I'm just saying for me, blackfish was strong enough to

(38:34):
make me feel icky, even when I'm at a zoo
with like my nieces. You're not You're not wrong, but
a lot of these these places, these zoos or marine
SeaWorld like places, have done some really good things. Right.
They've saved some animals from extinction. They take animals that
have basically fallen off the face of the earth and
they breed them back into populations that are viable in

(38:57):
the wild. That is an amazing thing. Um Is it
the right way? Were they supposed to go extinct? Who
the funk knows? Um? But I think the the We
now have the ability to look at it from a
different perspective and make a decision based on that. Well,
all I'm saying is watch Blackfish if you haven't, and
then you can make your own decision, because we're not

(39:19):
your parents. Do whatever you want, but watch Blackfish and
at least be educated on that point of view. You
want to hear something crazy. I had no idea how
this journey song went until I met my wife. So
even when we met, even when we did this show,
and if you listen to how I say just a
small town girl, I don't even say it in the

(39:42):
right cadence, and I don't even say it comfortably, like
when I'm saying it and you could tell that I'm
having a hard time saying it because I had no
idea what this. You've never heard the song. I'm sure
I had heard it, but I didn't. I'm not. I
wasn't a Journey fan until I mean, i'd have to
get my wife up here to tell this story, to
see if it's all right to tell the story. But
I didn't know the Journey song until she stole me

(40:04):
told me the story of the stabbing Cabin. Oh my god,
will you ask her if she can tell the stabbing
cabin story? The audience will be right back, all right,
it's worth it. Trust if this is worth it. Oh
my god, I can't believe if she's going to allow
the stabbing cabin. But it is a wonderful tale. I
can't wait. And I'm kind of excited to look at
Donald's clothes that yeah wear, that I wouldn't wear, that

(40:27):
I would wear that interesting hanger choices. Scott, I miss
you already, and you're you've just moved. Thanks man, I
miss you too. Come see me, Come visit me when
you will. I will once COVID settles down. I'm gonna
go be in Manhattan in my place, and then you
can come into the city and we can share a
cock tail or you can come out here and have

(40:49):
a nice home, cook me and be around some family
and we can just watch TV together. Not tall. Yeah,
in your big scream room, guys, she is. But to
what I was saying to you, Okay, Well, I don't
want to be the one to to ask you to
do this. It's not my place. So Donald said that
you introduced him to the song Don't Stop Believing, and

(41:12):
he wanted to you to tell horrible you don't have
to tell the story, Casey, but he wanted. He said,
I didn't know the song. Casey's the one who introduced me,
and she has a funny story about it and it
involves but you don't have to tell it. If you
can say, you can say cut no, I mean, I'm

(41:32):
I'm old now. It's not gonna matter anyway, beautiful and perfect,
thank you. I lost my virginity to that song right
in the back of my high school boyfriend's jeep and
real romantic and um I had well there's this roll bar.

(41:58):
I just want the audience to know. I want I'm coming.
I want the audience to know that you held your
hands up. So just just so I'm telling the story
were you holding the roar? You know, I don't want
to go into too much. Okay, you tell them what
you're supposed to be. What do you mean the cabin? Oh,

(42:18):
I was at the stabbing cabin. That's the big They
called it the stabbing cabin where women in her town
went to lose their virginity. Oh my gosh. Um. Yeah,
this cabin in the middle of the woods or pasture,
and we and it's where all my friends and their
boyfriends or whoever would go to have sex. And we

(42:39):
pull up there and I tell my boyfriend, I'm like,
I'm not going in that place. So that's why we
had to do it in the jeep. But now we're
forgetting the romance. Romance was supposed to be faithfully by Journey,
and it was obviously we're young, not going to go there.

(43:02):
How young I was. But it ended up taking a
little longer than we thought, and by the time we
were actually doing it, it was on just the small girl.
Believe hold for those of you who don't know me,

(43:27):
I'm from a small town, like three thousand people. You
don't have to explain it. All we did was drink,
fun or fight. That was it. It's some new merch
coming at you. And then I married her and then
he snagged me quick. Casey, thank you so much for

(43:50):
sharing that story about the stabbing Cavin and uh and
and thank you for introducing Donald to the song Don't
Stop Believing. I love that. She I loved it, and
she got up. She was she goes. I hope, she said,
I hope my parents don't hear that. Well, I hate

(44:12):
to tell you this, babe, but your parents don't listen
to the podcast. Yeah they don't. But Casey grew up
near Waco, um and I was when I saw Waco.
I was like, oh, that seems like a really small town.
And she's like, well, I grew up in a suburb
of Waco, like the middle of nowhere. Waco is not
a small town anymore. Man. It's booming now thanks to

(44:33):
Chip and Joanna Gains koresh don't know. Uh, Scott had
it right, the cats from net flipping that that that
your house fix her up? Her Chip and Joanna gains
Why what did they do? They they're from there back
they have Yeah, they have a show on HDTV and
now at their own channel and magazine and they bought

(44:54):
the silos and there's Oh my god, Merchant, it's a
whole thing. Oh, all right, talented, I won't be right there.
Um now, Scott, let's now that we've done our c
World speech, tell us how you did that shot in
the air with you waving, because it's amazing, I assume
in screen screen right, But it's perfect. Yeah, thank you.
I was. I was not happy with my form when

(45:15):
when I watched it again today, I was a little
too bent at the great but I was in my
defense to myself, I was, and thank you for saying
it was perfect. I was wearing a harness. We were
in the parking lot at the hospital. Well, listen, Scrubs
is not known for its great green screen in two
thousand two. In fact, the shot of Stura on the
train is so bad, the green screen. What was with

(45:37):
the angle on that too? Oh it was so bad.
And that train compartment was built into the parking lot
of Scrubs, I remember, and we had you know, green
screen has come along way by the way in eighteen years.
But but man, was it bad. And and but your
shot of you waving in slow motion was so perfect
that part of me was like, wait a minute, there's

(45:57):
no way they did that practically, Like, there's Scott, can
I tell you? With the exception of that shot, everything
else was done practically. I mean, right, yell in your face, dude,
How did you not react to that ship? It was
the scariest, worst smelling, foulest, biggest animal I've ever been

(46:20):
that close to. And you think like, oh, it's a
sea lion. They're huge and terrifying. That was a big
animal next to you, dude, they I mean, it's a
thousand pound beast with teeth, with big teeth. One of
the things when we talked about you, Scott on the show,
we often talked about what an amazing straight man you
are and how you never broke And there I was

(46:41):
watching you have a have a sea lion scream in
your face, and I would be cracking up and you
were just totally dead hair. It was I think, I
think watching it, you think like, oh, that must be funny.
It was terrifying. It was the end of the day.
It was the last shot we needed to get. Uh,
you know, the training there was no real explanation. The

(47:01):
trainer was like, Okay, so you're gonna say your line.
You turn your head here, the thing knows the thing.
That's because that's a sea World knows to turn your head.
When you turn your head, uh. And as many times
as I turned my head, it'll look at me, and
then the last time it'll stick its tongue out. Um.
It reeked like horrible old fish and a burp. It

(47:23):
was just very funny. I mean, did you know did
you know that the thing was gonna yell at you? Yes? Yes,
and that was loud. Um. But I gotta say, like,
of all the things I show my kids, they've seen
that a hundred times. They love that. That's a pretty
amazing piece of tape for you to have for your memories.

(47:45):
Nobody has great And I loved it. I love that
whole this whole Sea World storyline and adventure and the
fact that we actually got to go down there and um,
you know, Scrubs is a show we shot in uh
Berber where were we Sherman Oaks. But the fact that
v Villars, the fact we got to be on location
in San Diego for two nights or however long it

(48:07):
was was exciting and we're all down there together. It
was great. By the way, Scrubs is supposed to be
anywhere USA. It's never mentioned where Scrubs takes place, but
this does sort of hone in on where it is,
because we know that Scrubs takes place in a drivable
distance from a sea world. I feel like as time
went on, Scrubs became California, like I know, well, I

(48:28):
don't know. We always were painting out palm trees. I
think Bill wanted it to be. Bill wanted it to
feel anywhere U say, like the semptions, you know, like
you just you don't know where it is. But um,
but but but this does place it. How about how
about Laverne saying I need to find a dentist so
I don't look like Larry Holmes. Oh my god, I

(48:54):
never saw you look like Larry Holmes until she said that.
And then at the end, and then at the end
when he throws out a tooth and she goes, this
is a chick list, I'm a funny day. Trivia on
Scrubs Wicky about Laverne. Um it says that when j
D tries to comfort Laverne, she calls him a jackass,
But in the Netflix subtitle it says, cracker. Wow. Okay,

(49:20):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if that's helped
or hurt a Scrubs Wicky. Well, Scrubs is no longer
on Netflix, so we can't check it. But I guess
if you are on any if you're on Hulu, you
might wanna go look at that and see if someone
messed up the subtitle and had Nurse Roberts called j
D a cracker. It was just somebody who hated Zack Brath.
Who's like that, Zack Brath looks like a cracker? Asked, Cracker,

(49:43):
you know what I'm gonna do. This is what I'm
gonna do. This is what I'm gonna do a jackass. Nope,
ain't gonna be jackass. So you're saying the Netflix subtitle
guy out for me? Yeah? Probably brother like you, There's

(50:04):
no such thing. How about when when Sarah says to Cox,
does this shade of red she putting a lipstick? Does
this shade of red make me look like a clown?
He said, no, it makes you look like a prostitus
who caters to clowns, exclusively to clowns. I love that.
That's funny, ship, I love that. I have a question.

(50:29):
Do they talk about how you wound up at Sea
World at all? Scott there's no conversation. It's just your
job was out of the blue, You're you're at Sea
World now. No. I think in an earlier episode we
talked about me. I think I mentioned I work at
Sea World. Alright, I work. I'm a marine biologist or
something like that. I never trying to always have things

(50:51):
that made him so much more cool than than j D.
And I think the idea was that I'm trying to
one up him. But the dude's riding an orca and
jumping in front of different, in front of a five
thousand people, and he just looks like it's such a badass.
And I'm like, you're lying delivery on that when you're
walking when you before you see me, when you first
coming like he probably I don't know, scoops up the

(51:11):
seal poop or something, and then you see me and
you're like, you say, what do you say? Lame or something.
I thought it was fantastic, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, because
he's so humiliated that, I mean, he's Scott. Scott's flying
through the air after being hurled by an orca and
he's just waving to Elliott and slow motion so funny. Well,
what about in the beginning. We skipped this part where

(51:32):
where you sip the coffee. Sean SIPs the coffee and
has a lisp after because the coffee is so hot. Yeah,
she was hilarious, man Like. That was a great way
to introduce you guys back together. You know, I I
say on this podcast all the time that you guys
were great to get like. You two are great, are
perfect for each other, Shawn and Elliot are perfect for
each other. But this was a great way to reintroduce that.

(51:54):
You know what I mean, you two are such you know,
uh klutz is you know me just weirdos? I agree?
And it was such an endearing way to introduce the
two of you back together, so much so that j
D couldn't even be mad at I mean, he's mad
when he sees you flying through the air and everything
like that, but he can't be mad at it because
he's so entertained by the fact that Elliott's found someone.

(52:16):
That and then she gets and she gets her backpack
trapped in his car, in his car and all that stuff. Yeah,
why isn't he taking the train? Doesn't she have a car?
She has a car with the two mismatching doors, Yeah,
she does. Where was she going on the train. She
was going anywhere. She was going anywhere, guys going anywhere. God,

(52:39):
It's sorry, sorry sorry. I was like, we never did
a Troy he did some bust stuff. We never did
a train ever again on scrubs um. But because of
the song, someone had to build a train set there
you go. I wonder if Mike Spiller pitch that, you
know what, she should go to Sea World and she
should be on the train and I'll cut it to
where it goes. She took the Midden train going anywhere.

(53:01):
I wonder if he I wonder if he thought that
would be I don't know. I don't know, but this
is a Spiller directed episode and he's terrifically written by
Tim tim Hobert. Maybe Tim Hoberd had this idea. I
don't know, but that's your right. Someone that built a
big set for this just because of the lyric. Also
in this episode, this is the Turk and j D

(53:21):
episode g D and Yeah and Shelly, Shelly. Shelly's the
guy who played the bartender. Who oh my god, who dude?
I wanted to talk to you guys about that. Then
you try to kill his girlfriend his wife twelve years
to life. He's out. Yeah, he's out. Now he's out. Now. Yeah. Man,
wait I missed something, Dan, We're gonna we're gonna need

(53:42):
a sound effect here. Done done forty year old virgin
And that was in year old versions. When the news
came out, however, many years ago, she was like, holy shit,
I was he was the only guy who talked to
me like he was the nicest guy. And he just
killed his girlfriend. He didn't kill her. He tried to
My father and his daughter, Uh we're best friends in

(54:04):
uh elementary school, so like in first second or they
were they were they were best friends. And he used
to take care of my daughter Kaya back in the day,
Like they used to hang out with each other and
her dad would be the person that would take them
to get ice cream and stuff like that. Shelley. And
so when he came to do the show, I was like, oh,
ship man, how's it going. I had no idea that

(54:26):
later on he would you know that that would happen.
I ran into him recently, actually yeah, I did. Wait,
how many years did he do in jail? He did
quite a few, because it was like a few months
ago that I ran into him and he had just
gotten out and he was staying at a halfway house
and he was like, you know, I had to get off.
I am sober now, I am off of drugs and

(54:47):
everything like that. His I don't know where his wife,
his ex wife is and where his daughter is. I
don't think they're even in America anymore. But he's back,
you know, he's out. I don't know if this is
something we should I think we could talk about it.
Why not, it's if it's fact. Joel will double check
that it is indeed fact um. But he's definitely, he's
definitely out. He's staying at a halfway house. And you know,

(55:08):
I would never guess that the guy who has the
turk enj D joke had that happened to him. Well, yeah,
he represented himself in the trial and everything, like you know,
he represented him. He was his own lawyer, I believe. So, yeah, Joel,
we need you to fact check away on that, please
because that sounds intriguing. Well yeah, I mean if you

(55:28):
see some of the things, man like this was a
big this was a big Hollywood story and stuff like that.
You know, there's a video of him trying to explain
how his wife got stabbed all of those times. You
know what I mean, Jesus, I don't know that. I
don't know that this is this is getting darker and
darker as we're going. Hey, Joel, how accurate am I it?

(55:51):
Still it's going to take a minute to reas give
me some day. All right, Well, let's get back to
the show. Um, Mental five, the very first. Well, I
wanted to say, this is the first Mental five. I
believe Todd. Todd doesn't mental high five. Donald, I didn't.
I missed that. I don't know how I missed that.
He goes he's at the bar. I wanted to some
I wanted some project that's right with us and we're

(56:14):
supposed to be. No. Again, I'm sorry that I would
never ever diss the Scrubs writers because they're geniuses, But
this makes no sense. I finally want to go have
a private talk with you at a bar because you're
really getting married, and you're like, no, no, I can't
handle intimacy. It makes no sense. No, it doesn't make
any sense and makes zero sense. All right, Well, um,
maybe Bill won't listen to this one. Well, no, he'll

(56:37):
listen to it, and I'm sure he'll have something to
say about it. Yeah, um, but it'll be it'll be
in the next interrupting bill, Yeah, interrupting bill. Um. Yeah,
So you know, you invite Todd because you don't want
to have an intimate conversation with your best friend, and
and Todd tries to high five me, and I say
no when he goes mental five and then he goes
over and sexually harasses a woman and get slapped right

(56:59):
and then as holy cow, that's the quickest I've been
slapped in the face something like that. Um, I don't know.
When any comes over and says, do you think gay
dudes get turned on by their own we penises? Yeah,
it's so stupid, but it's funny. Yeah it is. It

(57:21):
is funny. But I'm guessing. No, I don't know. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No, no
is the answer. The answer is no, you don't know.
I'm I am making a fairly fairly logical guests. You
don't know that someone doesn't that a gay guy might

(57:44):
not look down at his penis and be like, damn,
that is a nice cop. If you have a foot fetish,
you don't look at your your own foot and rub
one out. How do you know doubt? How do you
know you're right? Also, is not orientation exclusive? You know
you can you can be straight and be like, you

(58:05):
know what, I got a great penis, but that's different.
And now my penis is getting I'm getting hard from
looking at my own penis. It's like inception. All right, Um,
Joel has some information here, so she said. Three years
after appearing in the hit film forty year old Virgin

(58:26):
Malill fifty three stabbed his then girlfriend twenty three times,
an attack that he originally claimed was a mistaken identity
on his part, So he's saying he didn't even know
it was her when he was stabbing her. During his trial,
the actor testified he thought he was stabbing someone else
in self defense on the night that he couldn't remember clearly.
It wasn't until hearing b B shout call nine one

(58:49):
one that Milile said he realized she was the one
he was stabbing. So he stabbed her up and then
said then she's like somebody called nine one one, and
then he was like, oh ship, I stabbed my girlfriend. Well, listen,
I don't want to get into to all that, but
I do have to say that is a crazy story
and um, it's so bizarre that that guy is the

(59:11):
one who came up with will not came up with
but says that he thinks your name is Turk and
j D. Look it's Turkey j D And yeah, um
Kelso's mom is in a nursing home, in a bunk bed.
He says he wants, um uh, someone to drop off

(59:35):
someone in a nursing home because he doesn't want to
run into his mother because she's going to complain that
she's spending her golden years in a bunk bed. He's
an evil funk that Kelso. Why is Carla walking around
with a with a jar of p What is the
point of that? She's so obsessed with the jar of urine?
Why is it on her lunch tray? Yeah? Why she right?

(01:00:00):
Why did she put it on her lunch tree? Right?
And she's walking around, Well, she put on the lunch tree.
So you could get the bit with the with the
guy in the apple juice bid. That's a long way
to go for an apple juice. It's a long way
to go. But it was good. It was a good bit.
I thought it was funny. Was resolve with the apple
like like the janitor found the thing, and then what

(01:00:24):
that was it? That was it? There was no payoff,
she just she just what was that about? What was
her what was her arc? She wanted to find the
owner of the p why. I don't know it was about?
It was Remember she had that that moment in the
middle of the show where she said, Okay, I'm done

(01:00:46):
with this, I'm done with this, and then she put
it down and then she went back to get it.
So there's obviously a there's something they were trying to do.
Such a thorough nurse, she's so dedicated to the ethics
of being a nurse that she wasn't going to let
one thing through the cracks. Is that it? I don't know.
I'm trying to I'm trying to find a cohesive theme

(01:01:06):
throughout the whole show that each of the characters sort
of deals with, right Like what what what is it
you talk about on the montage, Like, I don't know,
There's gotta be a reason. There has to be a
good reason that Bill would know. I don't know. I
don't know that she's in the I don't know that
she's in the last montage part. I think it's you
and Elliott I think it's Yeah. I think it's uh, Zack.
I think it's me and Zach talking. I don't know

(01:01:30):
if she is either, but I think I think possibly
the sort of the theme has to like she plays
into that the overall theme, Let's go to Let's go
to Uncle Bill. I think it's time Bill, Bill, Why
is Judy so obsessed with finding whose year in? This? Is? Why? She? She?

(01:01:53):
She she She goes on an episode long hunt. The
janitor eventually helps her, and then we don't really know
what happened. Now, Bill, far be it from us to
question your authority and mastery, but we just don't understand
Judy's are Also, why is homophobic? Yeah? Also Bill? Ps

(01:02:13):
a homophobic? Homophobic? Why why is Ark homophobic? Bill? We
see it doesn't see it doesn't seem to show any
signs of being homophobic until episode three oh two. Hey fellaws,
ms you guys. I'm glad we answer these questions. But
I do want to see some five six seven eight
merch for sale from our podcast, like a five seven

(01:02:36):
eight shirts or five six seven eight hats or five
seven eight boxers or or socks or um. How fun
would it be if I just did this for an
hour and was two different than five six, seven eight
of admit would be cool? Or a scarf. I'd buy
a scarf. Why is Carla carry P around all episode?

(01:02:56):
If we had written a song called everything comes down
to P, you guys would know the answer, but we
read everything comes down to pooh. The answer is conscientious nurse.
She sees at the beginning with no label on it,
and sometimes everything does come down to P. And she
knows we always like to show as a kick ass nurse.
She knows that that could be out there testing for
some serious ailment and have a real serious medical consequences

(01:03:18):
if it doesn't get tested or looked at, and so
she can't let it go. Like a five seventy docs
and sweater or dog sweater, like one of those things
you put on a weener dog. That would be funny.
It's very specific, but I'd buy one. Then I'd get
a weener dog. Second answer, why is a turk homophobic?
He's not. You know that character. We like to think

(01:03:38):
that he's very open minded and uh, but the intent
of that story, I'm sure it was that often, especially
when you look at young alpha male surgeon types or
any young alpha male type who was a fraternity guy
and uh, you know, who probably was not around a
lot of people of different sexuality or was not aware

(01:04:00):
that he was at the time, would imagine themselves being
much more sensitive and secure, um when kind of as
doctors off and are are confronted with a patient who
happens to be different from them, are different from what
their their comfort zone is. I don't think our intent
was to play this as huge jokes as much as
it was to show and highlight Turk's insecurities about himself,

(01:04:23):
you know, And uh do I think we executed it well? Now?
I think that we kind of glossed over it. It
is one of those things I wish I could go
back in time and do a scene in which he's
questioning why is he like that? But you know, I
think it was a product of I grew up, as
did a lot of the writers around a lot of
people like that. So I hope that's a decent answer.

(01:04:43):
But it is one of those episodes and storylines that, um,
I wish I could get in a time machine and
improve omit. Peace out, thank you, Bill? All right? Should
we go to we have a waiting a break jewel
or what yeah, we should go to break and then
we have the guests. All right, very exciting. We'll be
right back with the legendary Scott Scott Fowling. Hello, and

(01:05:14):
we're back, and we're back with what is your name?
It's Katie. Katie is on the line with and she
is going to get a little bit of introducing introduction
for Katie before we get started. A while ago, you

(01:05:34):
guys were really into the song I ran down the
ramp viral sensation and heat made a video where you
guys were with j D running down the brand your video.
And she also has a scrubs tattoo. Let me see.

(01:05:55):
Let's see the tattoo. You want to see it? Okay? Yeah,
I mean if it's sharable, I don't know it is
it is. It's on my rib cage, but I will
keep it PG. I promise. Let me just see. I
gotta flip this, okay, Okay, there's nothing's gonna be shown.
I promise is not flashing us view. Oh wow, it
says I'm no SA in the scrubs fonts. So cool.

(01:06:19):
That is really cool. That's very cool. So I was
hoping for my face. But hey, um, Katie, you are
the perfect guest, because not only does it seem like
you are a big Scrubs fan, I am also seeing
lots of um Star Wars memorabilire happening in your room,
so Donald will be able to dial into that. Yeah, huge,
huge Star Wars fan. Are you a Mandalorian fan? Uh? Yeah?

(01:06:42):
Are you excited Mandalian fan? Right? You gotta be select
some weirdo from like Jariar do tonight? Yeah? Yeah, no, no,
no do do Let him go, Let him go. He

(01:07:09):
just made the baby on latch again. Uh, Katie, tell
us where you're calling from. I am from Windsor, Ontario, Canada,
which is a small little city right across from Detroit, Michigan. Right,
it's it's near it's near Vancouver. Right. Oh god, no, no,
Winds not Whistler, Windsor you're from Windsor. Wow? Is it

(01:07:30):
named after Windsor where the Windsor castle is? I think so.
We have a lot of like Southwestern Ontario has a
lot of European inspired names, like we have a Paris
London windsor uh like all kinds of So if you
can't go to Europe, just come to Southwestern Ontario. It's
not even close to the same thing. Are there are
the towns just named that or is there any sort
of monument castoly kind of things. No, I think they're

(01:07:53):
just named that. To be honest, would you say that
you live in the middle of bumble fuck? It's not
quite bum fuck, but it had has been called the
butthole of Canada just because if you look at the map,
the very very very bottom, that's us, like we are
the southernmost city. We're actually we're a lot more south
than like a lot of the northern United States. I

(01:08:14):
never understood that analogy where you call something that's so
far south the butt hole, because the butt hole isn't
the furthest thing south on your body. If it is,
if you're if you're sitting, or if you're in the
fetal position, even if you're sitting, your feet are still
the furthest thing south. If you're in yoga, that yoga,
that happy baby, well then yes then yes. Katie. Now

(01:08:40):
you you are a good editor because you made a
very funny video about she cut. She cut Katie. By
the way, how how do people find that video? If
they want to watch it? It's on my Twitter at
Katie Rizzia. It's pinned right to the top and Kati's
last name is felt r I z e A. Um.
She cut Donald and I Love the Ramps song and

(01:09:00):
she cut images of scrub Is, particularly us running down
the hospital exterior ramp uh to the song masterfully. Are
you My question is are you interested? You seem like
a young person. Are you studying filmmaking? Are you just
naturally good at that kind of stuff? I didn't. I
never really studied it. I just I always kind of
liked the creative aspect of things, making photos like I

(01:09:20):
do kind of photography on the side. I've always loved
video editing. Um, I never really pursued a career in it,
but I do it on the side for fun, like
all the time. Well, you're good at it, because you
certainly made us laugh and uh and we appreciate it.
What what do you want to do? What are you pursuing? Uh?
My career, I suppose is I'm an office administrator. Um
so I work at a local college. I run the

(01:09:41):
health insurance and run the food bank I run. I'm
pretty much like the first space that they see when
they walk in and I'm like hello, and I just
do my best to solve pretty much any problem they have,
whether it has anything to do with me or not.
I love you people who do you? What do you do?
And solve problems? Man? The world needs more you. K

(01:10:04):
He prefers to be you. He prefers to be on television. Scott, Yeah,
please call him TV Scott. Listen. I have a really
quick question, Um, Scott Foley, what do you like? What
kind of TV? Sc Sorry? What kind of water do
you drink? Where you don't age? In twenty years? Oh god,

(01:10:26):
this is what we just talked about, Katie. I know,
why don't people write that on my ray? Here? The
amount of gray happening. It's a gray beard, dude, It's
not a gray face. By the way, Katie, Katie weren't
on the beginning of this. So I have to tell
you that this this podcast began with Donald and I
posted this video today and they said about Donald, Wow,
he doesn't age. Wow, Zach, look at his wrinkles. And

(01:10:49):
now you're talking about Mr Foley saying what kind of
water does he drink? Because he doesn't age. The man's
older than me but looks like he could be my son.
That's a very end of view, Katie, and that very
both of you. Uh what the kind of water? Doesn't matter, Katie,
just drink a lot of it. Yeah, And do you
use lotion, Scott, to use facial lotion? This is embarrassing.

(01:11:12):
So last night I'm putting on some ice cream before
I get to bed, and I say to my wife, Hey,
do a lot of dudes do this? And without hesitation,
she was like, no other dude does this. They do.
You've got a moisturize. That's what I'm told. By the way.
My girlfriend, she's always putting lotion on me, definitely doesn't
want you looking on It feels nice, though, I kind

(01:11:33):
of don't do lotion because I know she's gonna come
round after she does hers with the excess, like, oh,
that must be great. I get the excess. Do you
get the smack in the face to like the type? Yeah,
because you know when you need to put facial lotion
on and then you have extra right now, some people
like me, I just put it on my on my
my my back for some reason, the right, my instinct.
But my girlfriend comes around with her extra and and

(01:11:55):
and gives it to my face. It's nice, Katie. Let's
get out of here. This is getting weird. Katie. Do
you even have a question for for TV Scott Foley?
Or or clueless? Is Donald phase on? Or I wait
what I gotta be? Clueless? Is Donald? I don't know
your most famous film. I just went with it. Well
not Remember the Titans? Remember the Titans? Okay, do you
have a question for Remember the Titans? Is Donald? No? No, no,

(01:12:18):
the guy Denzel Washington's co star. Remember you have a
question for Denzel Washington's best friend and co star. I
like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah, I mean,
like obviously several questions. Um, before I have to first
of all, say thank you to Cole Lattisa on Twitter
because he's the one who tagged me in Joel's tweet

(01:12:38):
looking for me for my tattoo, So if he didn't
tag me, I might have never seen it. And I
put it here right on. Glad you're here. Thank you,
thank you. So first question kind of lighthearted. Um, this
has been my question since the very beginning, but um,
it's about So it's actually also kind of timely because
you guys just watched this episode not too long ago.
So if you guys woke up one morning and you
see an article from the news that says Bill Lawrence

(01:13:01):
has just released never before seen footage Nurse Roberts is
above ground pool party. What do you guys believe in
your heart is going to be on that footage. I
think they're exing their faces off. I think Nurse Roberts.

(01:13:22):
I think Nurse Roberts has some m D M A
and everyone is just fucking grinding on each other. Oh
my gosh, that is an epic above ground pool party.
That is an epic of I think that only happens
on the in ground pool party, not above I don't know,
but that's a great question because we know we know

(01:13:44):
this fact. They were always off the hook. They were crazy.
Ship went down at these things. People like some fights,
People got choked out. Yeah, you know what I mean.
People hooked up. We know people hooked up. People hooked up. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I don't what do I think would
be in Oh wow, I'm sure. Wow. I'll tell you what.
That's a great question if you know we got down't know.

(01:14:05):
I get tagged in a lot of fan art on Instagram,
And if you're an artist and you want to do
a doodle do to what you imagine is happening at
nurse Roberts is above ground poolp Oh my god, this
is gonna be so gnarly. People are gonna put the
gnarliest things you've ever seen in your life, go crazy,
and then we'll we'll put some on our stories. Although
so well has to freaking cypher through all of this. Man.

(01:14:27):
No no, no, no, no no, they're gonna they're gonna know,
they're gonna tag us on Instagram, so they'll show up
in our feed. And then yeah, and then well, you know,
don't don't don't have the pleasure. Yeah, don't. Well, actually,
I'm not gonna give you any restrictions. Go nuts, what
is happening? And Robert, you know Instagram will give you restrictions.

(01:14:47):
Let's put it down. Instagram will give you restrictions. Well, yeah,
I mean, don't don't have like cocks flying and everything.
If they are, have them be hidden behind Wait wait
wait wait wait what I'm saying, like, be be crazy.
But if they if some one goes and draws like
penises flying, we'll have to like blur it. Probably you
can't put that in our story or not. Remember remember
being two p g at all, you are not being

(01:15:14):
at all, dude. Someone went and put Donald, me and
Johnny sees heads on a on a on a gay
porn still and um, it's hilarious. I sent it to
Donald and Johnny c um word, why why everybody else?
It's not because it's not. But Johnny wrote something so

(01:15:38):
back like oh my god. Johnny wrote back something like,
oh my god, Zachie, what have you done? And I
started to think. I started to think that he thought
that I made it right, like like I always sitting
at home on my photoshop. All right, Katie's you have

(01:15:58):
another question? Yeah, and I hope it's okay to you all.
I just thought of this earlier and it's not the
one we talked about, Okay, okay, So I this one
is a little bit more I guess serious, not really serious. Um,
most shows and like a lot of TV shows, most
often comedies, they tend to like run beyond their course,
so to speak. And scrubs up eight seasons was like perfect,

(01:16:19):
it didn't go too long. So I'm just wondering what
the feel on set was for you guys, Like how
did you find out that season eight was ending? Like
how did they tell you? And like how did that
feel filming the last of it? Knowing this is it,
like this is the end. Well, you know, the crazy
thing is we never really other than season two and three,
we never really knew what our fate was at the

(01:16:41):
end of every season. It wasn't until around you know,
right before upfronts where they announced all of the new
fall shows that we found out we were coming back
for most of the uh time while we were making
Scrubs and if you recall, season eight isn't I don't
know if you know this, but season eight isn't even
on the original network that Scrubs was on. So every

(01:17:05):
year felt like, well, this could be it. I hope
I get to see you next fall, you know what
I mean, or I go to get to see you
in the summer. When it was announced that it was
finally over, that season eight was going to be the
last episode of Scrubs as we knew it, that was
kind of it was kind of like one of those
things where you I didn't believe it until you know

(01:17:26):
what I mean, until it was over, and then there
was this long pause in between, and then we went
and did the The Interns show. But for the longest time,
I honestly believed that, yeah, sure, this is the last season,
but we'll be back next season, you know what I mean?
And so I you know, a lot of people talk
about how uh emotional they were when we were making

(01:17:48):
the season finale, the series finale. I don't know if
you remember, Zach, I wasn't necessarily that emotional. Everybody else
was really emotional. I still thought we'd be back next season,
and believe it or not, I was so wrong, but
so in doing it, I didn't. I wasn't as emotional
as everybody else was. Sarah was very emotional. I remember that.
I was very emotional, but I I feel like I

(01:18:09):
wanted a new chapter of of my life. I was
so blessed. I mean, I was so clear how lucky
we were. I was so blessed for the opportunity and
and for how the show changed our life, and for
the incredible support we have from this most loyal and
amazing fan base. But I think I and Bill would

(01:18:30):
probably say it was time to like try something new.
And Scott can speak to this because he's done very
long runs on shows, and you kind of go like,
this is amazing, and I'm so clear lucky. I yeh,
I do want my life to have other chapters. For me,
I wanted to have a family and and it's very hard.
It was hard for me to maintain relationships and build

(01:18:51):
not just romantic relationships but friendships because of the time
I spent um in the abandoned hospital, and I I
wanted to sort take that to a new chapter. I
wanted to make more movies and and and do more filmmaking.
So I felt so grateful and I was so sad,
But at the time, I felt like I want I
wanted something new to to start. Scott, you must have

(01:19:14):
felt I was gonna I was gonna ask you, Scott,
because Scandal ran a really long time. Felicity had a
really nice run. The unit had a really nice run.
Like all of these shows that you were on, you've
experienced uh ending for a lot of shows. Have all
of them gone out on first the terms that you
guys wanted it to go out on, And second, how
are you feeling when you got to that point. I

(01:19:36):
don't think any of them have gone out on the
terms that you want them to go out on. You know,
television is the kind of business the television is is
is you know you wanted to run forever? Right? Paycheck,
good group of people. Um. And you know, I think
I think everyone from the actors to the writers to
the crew was like, oh wow, that's I gotta go

(01:19:57):
look for a job now, which is never fun. Um.
But I think there is a certain feeling when you've
done a hundred plus episodes of a TV show that
runs through everybody's head and I think everybody has some
similar feeling, which is this has been great. If this

(01:20:18):
keeps going, is this all I'm going to do? And
that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I want to
try something else. But there is also like I'm not
done with it yet, you know, like because ultimately it's
not us. With the exception scandal, Shonda Rhymes was the
person who said the show is done. I don't want
to write anymore. The show has had a great arc

(01:20:41):
and the characters I've told the stories I want to tell,
and that's it. I think had the network had their way,
the show would have gone on for another ten years
because it was doing so well. Um. But but it's
always Katie. It's always um sad. And you know, these
are people that you you get to know really well,
and you guys can speak to this as well. You
become really close there. Your family, you see them more

(01:21:03):
than you do your friends. All my friends know that.
When I'm on a TV show, I disappear for nine
months and it's you know, it's kind of who I
am and what you gotta do with It's an amazing
um uh, you're so lucky to have it happen, but
you do sacrifice a bunch of things. Um I can.
That's coming as a guy who doesn't have children yet,
like these guys too. I mean Donald had to go

(01:21:24):
on his last show and be in Jersey City with
his family in Los Angeles and being hard from his
kids for that long, and that was really, really, really
hard on on everybody except for his wife. Yeah, she
was so happy I was gone. She was cranking. Don't
stop believing. I came back home and my wife was like,

(01:21:44):
oh no, that's not how we do that. Like I
did one thing, She's like, no, that's not how we
do things here. That's brutal. Yeah, brutal. It happens to
me too. Who do you what do you think you're doing?
This is how we do it now. I had to
go through the crash course of how to live in
my own house. It was amazing thing. Oh that's not
how we do think. My mom is as a psychologist

(01:22:04):
and has done a lot of marriage counseling, and she said,
one of the most common things couples fight about is
how to load the dishwasher. What right, I don't. I
don't have that problem. I don't because you don't do
it the dishwashing. She was just giving. She was an
examing example of like thing that couples argue about, and

(01:22:26):
it was a big one. You're not supposed to tell you.
That's exactly right, Scott. You're not supposed to tell anybody
how to do If you tell me how to do it,
I'll stop doing it. Right, I'm not gonna I'm gonna
keep going right. Oh no, that's not how you put
the trash can in the trash the trash bag in
the trash can. All right, did you do the ship?
Then you got it? That's what I thought. You got it.

(01:22:46):
You got it. Cut to Donald being like, yes, we
heard the corners. All right, Katie, it's time for Canada's
favorite segment. It's time to wait, hold on, let's do
it again, Katie, it's time to fix your Sorry if

(01:23:11):
the baby was latching, Uh Katie, We we really really
have are transforming the world with this second. We're transforming
every little corner. Oprah doesn't have ship on us. Why
because we are really helping way more than she ever
did on her little show. Well, I want I want
to know that Joel just looked away and rolled their eyes.

(01:23:33):
That was that? Was that that? That is not my
opinion of it either, So please don't I love that
you guys think that Oprah is listening and writing your
names on a list of people that not hang out with. Listen,
you both, Donald and you are like, listen Oprah. In
case you're listening, that is not me. Sorry, listen, Joel.

(01:23:54):
You gotta let him think he's Opra because then we
might all get a car. Oh, by the way, we
are and give a special treat out today. I think
you well right, yes, okay, we'll save that from the end. Um,
all right, Katie, go ahead. It's better than that. Alright, Katie,
go ahead with your question. Okay, So I did think

(01:24:16):
of something. I was rapping my brain because I mean,
I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I'm
very blessed. My life pretty great right now. But I
do welcome Katie and just fixed. That's the shortest segment
we ever did. Uh No, it's a rare opportunity for
you guys to fix my future life because um, I'm

(01:24:38):
getting married next year, thank you. And it actually it's
in California, so you guys can all come through. We'll
be there. You invite me, Invite me, as long as
the Bluese is free. Invite me. You are all invited.
You can carry me down the aisle. I don't want
to do all that. I didn't want. I don't want

(01:24:59):
to be in flower girl, throw the flowers. I just
want to be there. I just want to be there.
I want to be there, have a drink and leave. Okay,
that's fine, we can do that. So my question to
you guys, and like all all of you, would just be,
how like what would your advice be to me to

(01:25:20):
just be like the best possible partner I can be
to my fiance. Um, she is the most amazing person ever.
She's my best friend. She's so beautiful and I just
want to make her happy forever. Oh God, I will
say I'm gonna say one thing and one thing only, alright,
but go ahead, be tactful. Patience is so important. That

(01:25:46):
is the most important thing you can have. My wife
has the most patience out of anybody I've ever met
in my life, because if I had to deal with
someone like me, I would freakingno, I leave me. I
would leave me if I had to deal with me.
And so my wife is one of the most patient
people on the planet and loves me unconditionally. And if

(01:26:10):
you got that in you, there's nothing that can be done. Well,
I shouldn't say that, there's very little that could be
done to ruin your relationship. My wife's tolerance of my
bullshit is what keeps our relationship a flip. All right, Scott, Fully,
you are married with children in a successful relationship. What's

(01:26:31):
your advice? Oh, man, Uh, I think patience is a
good one. I would I would urge you to listen
to not just what they're saying, but how your fiance
is saying it and why they're saying it. You know
why I found uh through uh much trial and error

(01:26:54):
that UM, when my wife is UH telling me something
or angry it's something, or or frustrated about something, UH
listening to that and not it's the hardest thing for
me not trying to fix it. UM. Which a lot
of men try to do, and you don't seem to
have that problem. I don't think. Um. But but just

(01:27:19):
listening and um and not try to fix whatever the
problem might be is sometimes the best way to go
because a lot of the times my wife doesn't want
me to fix it, or it's it's not fixable. Um,
it's just a matter of being there for someone. UM.

(01:27:39):
I'm not married. But one thing I think really helps
me when I'm communicating in relationships, and this goes for
not just from any relationship, not just romantic relationships, is
being able to admit when you're wrong. I think people automatically,
as human beings, we shift into defend what you did
at all costs. And there's so much power in being

(01:28:02):
able to take responsibility and truly listening to the person
and it might not be, uh, what you intended, it
may not have been what you thought you said, but
whatever it is that upset them because of the way
they experienced it, you can go. There's so much power
I have found being able to go, Okay, I'm just
giving you a random example that is certainly not what

(01:28:24):
I intended, and I'm very sorry that that that made
you feel that way, and I apologize if that's if
that's how it came across, just being able to stop
and go, stop defending and stop trying to be right,
and being able to say, Okay, I've digested what you're saying.
I certainly didn't intend it that way or whatever it is.
I'm just you know, picking an example and then being

(01:28:45):
able to take responsibility I think is a very very
powerful tool in all of your relationships. Now, Zach, I
have a question for you. Are you able to do
that without them going what I meant was and you know,
like that's to get you a problem for me? No?
I think I well, I think, you know, because I

(01:29:06):
usually I'm usually the guy like, look, I did not
wow that that did not you took that the wrong way,
and I'm I'm so sorry if it came out that way.
What I meant to say was the way you fucking
put that goddamn distion that. Yeah, I'm about to say,
I'm about to say, because what if you meant that
ship when you said it, that's good thing, you know

(01:29:28):
what I mean a lot of times, a lot of times,
you know, if your partner gets upset, you certainly didn't
intend to hurt their feelings or for them to get upset.
That's not that's not a normal person's intentions. Of course
it happens. So what happened there was a miscommunication or
there was a sensitivity on one of the people's part um,
And I think we get stuck in argument loops because

(01:29:50):
both people are trying to be right and if if,
if you can go, um, if you can both go like, Okay,
I hear what you're saying, I'm you know all I
think lie. People don't feel hurt. They're like, I'm speaking
in fucking circles because you're not hearing me. There's a
lot of power in saying I do hear you. You're
saying this. That's not what I intended. Um, I apologize

(01:30:13):
for it coming across like that. Here's what I meant
to say, not in the aggressive, jokey way that Scott saying,
but saying in a way like this is truly what
I meant. I'm not saying it's going to solve a arguments,
but I think it's a very sort of peaceful way
to have a conversation. I think there's one other thing
you mentioned. There's act that's so important to remember is
that when you're with someone, you're with them because you
love them and you want to be with them, and

(01:30:35):
never ever do you intend to hurt that person or
hurt their feelings. But it does happen, and you just
have to remember that neither one of you wants to
hurt the other. Right. Yeah. The other thing, I'll give
you what my therapist told me to read a book
that I haven't read yet, so I can't vouch for it,
but it's called Getting the Love You Want, and I

(01:30:57):
know it's a power. It's a very popular um sort
of couples conversation book. So Katie, you can read that.
That's my wedding gift to you. Dan, was there something
you wanted to say? Oh? No, I was just sitting
up in my chair. I support everything you guys have
said so far. I think patients listening. I mean, it's
just all very smart advice, and I think it concentrates
on having respect for your partner and and being aware

(01:31:21):
of your own not necessarily shortcomings, but you know situations
where you could be at fault. It's all about being
equal partners. Yeah, and Joel, I would I would call
on you, Joel, but we're trying to find you somebody
right now? Yes, this is the advice would be terrible
and oh no, here we go. Wait wait wait what
did this say on Twitter? Yes? Oh my goodness, working

(01:31:48):
on finding We are working on finding Joel a partner. Um.
I actually had someone slide into my d M s
and say, hey, introduced me to Joel. Um, I gotta
do a little recall on on her. But don't worry
this segment it's got fully. You may have missed this
because I don't know often you listen to the show,
But we are working on a new segment called find

(01:32:08):
youell a Lover. We're gonna be hopefully teaming up with
a popular dating app. Did I tell you? Did? I
mentioned on the show that there's a gaming gamers dating app.
Someone told me um that there's a How does that work?
How does a gamer's dating at work? Well? Playing video
games and they together? Worship could start playing a game.

(01:32:32):
My wife and I play video games all the time together.
Love to hear it. I would love to hear two
people just meet on a date and play Call of
Duty together game or some game where they're yelling, I
fucking body, do you piece? You should hear Marika. Hear Marika,

(01:32:52):
when we play Hallo online against twelve year olds, it's fantastic. Okay, listen, um,
I think it's called kimpo. Sorry, I'm doing the work
because I normally would ask you well to do this,
because this is for her. I want here here a
few soul geek girl gamer dating lf G dating, gamer dating,

(01:33:17):
gaming passion looking zeus all right, anyway, The point is
if any of you work there, maybe hit us up,
because we really wanted this to become a segment called
find Joel a Lover. We even got a theme. So
let's hear it on deck. It's on It's it's in
the works, it's on Dan. Dan's writing it. It was

(01:33:39):
already in an episode. It was alright, well then Dan
will play it here. Sorry, I hope there's bounty in
there Dan. If not, please add some bounce in that intro.
Want there to be a clip of Joel just going,
oh my god, like that's good. Thank you Katie our

(01:34:00):
favorite editor. So Dan, it goes bound chicken chicken ween,
Oh my god. Okay, all right, Katie, you've been an
awesome guest. Congratulations on your nuptials. Hopefully when you and
your fiance get into an argument. You'll take our advice. Um,
and it will save everything. Um. Oh, I forgot, almost

(01:34:21):
forgot to say that you are getting a prize and
we don't. We haven't given away a prize in a
long time. No, Scott fully not you. It's got fully
in his chair as in his own screening room. He's
trying to get your fucking present, Katie. Is it right
that she lives in Canada? Joel, are we gonna be
able to I'm right across from Detroit. If that help,

(01:34:43):
you might have to go pick it up in Detroit
at the border. I mean I can't cross at the moment.
But we'll figure it out, Katie. I will, I will.
I will augment the postage with my own money if
need be. We are sending you a whole palette of
g TS kombucha. Are we sending aquakey for two? Yes?
What's in there? But Joel just saying yes, we are

(01:35:05):
sending Donald's worried that he's not getting something his aquakey
for his going to her. We're sending you the motherload, Katie.
Oh my god, the good folks that will be sending
you a whole palette that you can and you can
enjoy and serve at your wedding if you so choose. Yes,
Thank you so much. Um, you guys are absolutely amazing.

(01:35:26):
Oh my god, this is wild. And you guys don't
plug yourselves enough, so I feel like if you don't
do it, I should plug your all. Right, right, listen,
First of all, all you listeners out there, if you're
not operating a motor vehicle, you need to do this
right now. Pull up your phone, pull up your computer,
open up Twitter. Go follow first of all, girl Joel

(01:35:47):
j O E L L E m O n I
q u E on Twitter. Got the whole rhythm perfect,
And let's go over. Follow DJ Underscore Daniel on both
Twitter and Twitch. On Twitch if you have five dollars,
give him a sub and you know, I mean like,
while you're there, you can follow me to I'm I'm
on Twitch. I'm that random chick that's me, uh, And

(01:36:08):
then go back to Twitter. Follow these two you probably
already do. Follow these three. I'm so sorry Scott k. Foley,
he's busy, sorry. High school. Follow Scott K. Fowley, Follow
at Donald pais On, follow at Zach Breth. Then go
over to Instagram first thing you're gonna do is follow everybody,
but especially follow Donald underscore aison the f is underscore

(01:36:29):
get him to a million followers. What are you doing
if you don't follow him? Right now? Thank you very much, Katie.
Something right now, Katie, right now, I'm gonna use that
on another episode. We're gonna use that on another episode.
We'll cut to the at the end of another episode,
we'll go and now for our hype woman, Katie, and

(01:36:49):
then we'll just play that recording. That's all I've ever
wanted in life. And you know, Katie, that was amazing.
We should get her a T shirt, Cannon, because I
felt like she was just shy of shooting T shirt.
That's going to be my wedding gift to you, is
a T shirt T shirt can Is it going to
be filled with the Eagle T shirts? Yes? Oh yeah,

(01:37:10):
thank you, thank you for talking about continuing to be
a good hype woman. Please go buy our merch. You
go to a cotton Bureau dot com and then search
for fake Doctor's real friends. We've got all sorts of
fun things out and uh and that's it. Um. Katie
will let you stay at the end of the show
because you're so rad and uh and our hype woman. Scott. Fully,

(01:37:31):
I don't know what to say. I love you so much.
You're a great guy. I can't wait till one day
come to your screening room and watch TV with in Connecticut.
He's in Connecticut. I know I can get to Connecticut
and still go there. Thank you, guys. It's always a
pleasure to be here. I love I love you both.
I love that we go back so far and that
Uh I can be a part of this. It's really important.
I appreciate it. We're very happy to have you on here. Scott.

(01:37:53):
We don't tell you enough. You need I think you
need to hear this. You are so good on the
show Man. Let's do something together, all of us again.
Let's do something else. I would like that. Zack says
he wants to do something with you. I asked him
what it is. I think it's I think it's work.
I think it's a movie or something like that. I
could be wrong, but I want to. I want to.
I I just want to work with Scott again every

(01:38:14):
time I want. And this is not a joke, Scot.
Every time I watched these episodes, I'm reminded of how
much I like working with you. I almost directed Whiskey
Cavalier that fell apart because of scheduling. But um, I'd
love to direct you or act with you, or just
do things to you. Scott, you're with I meant with
not too. I like it. Or we could share some

(01:38:37):
cock tales tales, tales tales, speaking of cocktails. Um, this
is Thursday that you're listening to this. We're recording it
on Tuesday. We Donald and I have no idea where
our head count for to register people that are for
voting is, but please go to head count dot org
slash Zack and Donald either registered to vote or check

(01:39:00):
your registration. We gotta get everybody involved. Okay, we love, Yes,
Yeah we don't. And we don't care who you're voting for.
That well, we do, we do, but we're not gonna
say it. We don't care. Do do you vote for?
Who you vote for? It's none of our business. We're
not going to change your mind if you're gonna vote, Maggie,
it's it's not we We we know that already. We
just want you to fucking participate. Everybody needs to participate

(01:39:22):
in this. The country needs to speak as a whole
right now, all right, Dan, it is your turn to
be bestowed a very special honor. It's taken, however, many
episodes for us to say it's finally time for you
to count us in. Yes, Daniel, want you wanted me? Daniel,
I'm happy. I'm here for this. Do you you don't

(01:39:45):
want you don't want to? Let Katie do it? No, no, no, sorry,
I would be thrilled with that, Katie. O Katie, Katie
your dynamite and you haven't. I'm no Superman tattoo. But
it is Daniel's time, Daniel, Daniel, you s by six
yaturd ain't maries about sure, we made about a bunch

(01:40:06):
of docs and nurses and janitor who loved he. I said,
he's the stories netballs should go. So gather around you
here are gather around you here. I'll just specch for you.
Watch your winds at a time. Mm hmm

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