402: My Office with Sarah Chalke

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, hi, hi, hi jall hi, don y'all everybody like,
how hool listeners, it's cold raining fin wait what? Yes,

(00:21):
it is it is. You're not supposed to have this weather.
It's wrong going on, it's amazing. Oh my god, you
know what. Mammoth is just getting stumped on our two
local ski mountains, Big Bear and Mammoth are are are
covered with with fresh powder that's nice, like cocaine. Yes,

(00:46):
looks like cocaine covered in beautiful, beautiful. I always hear
in the rap songs that they talk about skiing. Is
that what they mean? The powder, the cocaine, the ski
they do? Yes? Really the rappers do coke? Yes? Are
you kidding me? The smoke blunts. I think my wife
and myself are the only people in America that don't
do coke in the world that don't. What Joe, that's

(01:08):
not true, No, Joel, do you do? It's the worst.
Have you ever done it? What I have? But I
have never, never in my life. You're not missing anything.
I know. You know why, because if I did, I'd
be hooked. I have a very addictive personality and I
know this, So things that I try to stay away
from are things like booze because once I got on

(01:28):
a binge, it's crazy crack cocaine uh and and other
forms of cocaine, and I don't want to try them.
I don't ever want to try them because of my
addictive personality. I'm hooked on weeds so bad. Right now,
I'm trying to figure away off the ship. Oh yeah,
I thought you were trying. Were I am trying. I'm

(01:49):
still working on it. I just like it so much.
But also it's freaking you know, it's funk what they say.
The truth is, it is very addictive. Yeah, I agree
with you. You're not the only pot head addict I know.
I know a couple. Well, you don't have to call
me a fucking addict, man. That hurts a little bit. Well,
I'm just saying that I love ganja as well. But

(02:10):
people saying that it's not addictive, is I always thought
a bit silly. Yeah, that is very Sillybably it's something
not physically addictive, but it's definitely mentally addictive, right absolutely.
Just it's like that oral fixation, the feeling of putting
cigarettes to your mouth and all of that stuff. Because
you can eat marijuana, you could totally eat it. But
there's nothing like smoking it. It's also the pandemic is

(02:33):
a little like, oh, I'm so bored. You know, it's
so long too, man, the pandemic. Jeez. Do you find
when you're watching like TV shows and movies and people
are all hanging out in like a bar or doing
like things we can't do anymore, that you're like, oh,
it looks so fun. But just look at Australia. They're
having a blast over there. Really, they got like they've

(02:57):
got like under a thousand cases of COVID, like two
hundred and something cases of COVID over. Yeah, they're doing great.
They're doing great, and they're probably still on lockdown. They're
still taking it very seriously. You know, it's seriously, you
know what I mean, it's still taking very serious. They're like,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go outside. There's a
possibility they probably still have masks on and everything. Right,

(03:18):
I don't know, I'm speaking out of turn. Hey I'm
one Australia. Let me know. I want to thank everyone
for all the love I got because my my big
announcement came out that I cheaper by the dozen. So
you guys are swirling in this Huh, welcome to the
swirl baby, laugh to myself, swirl. I was laughing to

(03:38):
myself as I was dialing into this. I was like,
I'm kind of playing Donald like I'm in the relationship.
Interracial relationship with twelve kids. Kenya Barris wrote the script
and it's really really good and I'm just so stoked.
So thank you all for the for the love you
gave me. I saw lots of your comments and a

(03:59):
lot of people were like, oh, is that the thing
that you guys beeped and when when you were talking
about it, And yes, that is indeed the thing. And
I'm really really, really really excited. It's really cool man.
Thank you. Is it just you two right now that
have been cast? All the kids have been cast, okay,
because it's such a process to cast twelve children, as

(04:21):
you can imagine, and they're of different races, and they're
of uh, you know, one of them is handicapped in
a wheelchair, and they wanted to have an actual girl
in a wheelchair and so and of so many different
types of children, of course, and so to do that
they had to do a huge search across the country

(04:42):
and the director has been doing it the entire time
we've been in lockdown, She's been doing it over over video,
over the web. I have a question, Yeah, why is
it cheaper by the dozen? I would think a dozen
it would be expensive. I thought it would be cheaper.
I mean, I guess if you round it out, we
got are you gonna pay less by like a little bit?

(05:03):
By the does it? But if the impression is when
you buy things? But I know, I get it, I
get it. That doesn't But why is it always cheaper
that way? I think the Baker's. I think the Baker's
doesn't it is cheaper than that doesn't though? Right, isn't
the Baker's doesn't cheap? Did you have? It's only one o'clock.
I smoked so much weed today? All right? Who we

(05:29):
got on the show? Who's on the show today? We
have Sarah Chalk today on the show and that's very
exciting because everybody loves Sarah Chalk. And we also have
GT from GT's Kombuche because Joel we wanted to figure
out a way to better explain to people we're always
hyping up Get's kombucha and Donald and I genuinely love it,

(05:50):
but we don't really necessarily explain it that well, so
we thought we would have gt On to explain. First
of all, he's a really interesting guy who made this
ginormous company and is a huge success. He's got a
great story behind it too. It's kind of interesting, just
American businessman story. But also he can explain kombchter better
than weekend is He is he here, Guys, he is here.

(06:12):
Let's invite him in hunt Donald's. Yeah. Absolutely, Ja and gentlemen,
give it up for kombucha. Dude, you're so young. It
really is like I forgot how young you are, and
you've made this ginormous company. I'm just taking in your

(06:35):
your long, your young beautiful face. He's not young. He's
really seventy five. It's that would be a funny thing
if that were true. I'm just gonna tell everyone that
he's really seventy five years old. But he's young and
handsome looking. Yeah, and I bathe in kombucha and that's
the secrets of my ntality. I don't know if you

(06:55):
rub it on your face or something. Man, you look great,
Thank you well, listen, great to see you. It's so
goad to see you. We this is, by the way,
this is Joel and Daniel. Hi, Hey, we want to
have you on man because we're always talking about how
much we love your product, and I think that Donald
and I, other than saying the obvious things, it tastes

(07:15):
awesome and we know it's good for our gut. We
we kind of fall short and we've we've spoken to
you about it, so we thought you could help explain
to our listeners first and foremost, you know, in very
simple terms, because you know, you can get technical about
like gut health and everything. But just like they have
this thing on Reddit called explain it Like I'm five,
so I was thinking you could explain it, like we're

(07:36):
all five. Why Why is kombucha so good for our
for our health? Kambucha is good for your health because again,
as we all know, our stomachs really are the source
of our nutrition and our vitality. But over the course
of our lives they become compromise and we're not really
digesting completely the foods that we eat. Therefore we're not
getting the nourishment. So that's number one. So kambucha kind

(07:59):
of helps restore that balance to allow your digestion to
fully function and do everything it's intended to do. In
addition to that, I mean, we're learning more and more
that our stomachs do more than digest food. There are,
in many ways kind of the second brain, and they're
the center of many things, whether it's our moods, our
energy levels, things that we crave, things of that nature.
And of course ultimately they go hand in hand with

(08:21):
our immune system. So I mean to sum it all
up that that the gut and the stomach and the
digestion is really the center of our wellness. And so
nothing else will get better until we take care of
our digestion. And and okay, so here's my question. Why
does it taste so damn good? I mean, how do
you do that? How do you do that? Because I've

(08:42):
had other I have had other ones, other brands, and
they don't taste as good. And are you the are
you the biggest brand in in in the USA? We're
the actually the biggest brand in the Worldbody, look at you,
and how old are you? But you don't have to
tell me, but you look like you're thirty years old?
And I'm happy to tell you I'm forty three. Well

(09:03):
are you really you look twenty nine? And are you
really forty three. Yeah, nineteen seventy seven. Baby, So wait, wait, wait,
go back, because Donald Donald and I are proud of you.
You get the first You are the first person that
I can say, well, you can't say it's not just
black that don't crack. You got that Paul Rudding you

(09:25):
what are y'all doing it? You're s that's right, that's wait. Wait,
so wait, Dave tell us about how will you tell
us the short version? Because you know, I've heard the
long version and it's fucking extraordinary, but it's probably too
long for this podcast. But will you give everyone just
the bullet points of how you made this company because
I just think you're also just an inspirational story of

(09:47):
creating this thing by yourself and you're the biggest kombucha
company in the world. That's pretty cool. Well, first of all,
thank you for saying that. And so I mean again,
my company kind of started is just this personal passion
and almost as happy accident. You know, I was raised vegetarians,
so I was raised with the importance and understanding of
how food can be your medicine as well as your poison,
and my parents incorporate a lot of unique foods into

(10:09):
the household so in addition to kombucha, it was no
knee chia seed, ali vera, juice, wheat grass, things of
that nature. And so kombucha came into the household when
I was starting to become a teenager and my parents
were making it and drinking it, and they became fanatic
about their consumption to the point where they were drinking
multiple glasses a day, giving it to every friend and

(10:30):
family member that walked into the household. But it wasn't
until kombucha helped my mom with her breast cancer, which
was about two years later, and that was kind of
the moment that we truly understood that not only can
food be your medicine, but it can actually help your
body heal itself. And so I was now around the
age of fifteen. So my mother was my best friend
and is my everything, and so the fact that her

(10:52):
health was on the line and then this pungent tasting
team called kombucha had helped her is really what became
the catalyst for me. You have this desire to share
it with the world. Again, I was too young to
be an entrepreneur or a businessman or anything you know
of that nature, and so I really was just leading
from the heart, as I loved kimbucha, wanted to share it,

(11:12):
and so I didn't. And I went about it in
many ways or just again a personal passion and just
almost like a hobby that I was happy if just
one person liked it. Right, Well, were you like the
lad were you like the lemonade stand? But it was kimbucha?
Was that? Was that? How you really? Exactly? Young? Yeah?
I was like this young little guy sampling an air One,

(11:35):
which was my first store. Of course, air One's like
this phenomenon lately in Los Angeles, like every Yeah, if
you don't live in La air one is like an
even healthier, more beautiful whole foods, right, Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
It's it's a pretty amazing market. And and and you're
really represented there well because you guys always send me

(11:57):
and Donald flavors. And I went into to Air one
and it was like where all, wow, come, we haven't
had all these there's so how many different now? Oh
my god, we have over thirty and you're right, are
one and stores like Krewe. You walk in and it's
like this oasis of kombucha. You have like every single flavor,
every single every kind of size you could your heart
could desire. And that's why naturally I started are one

(12:19):
and so yeah, I mean I was sampling, and I
was really just like, as you said, almost like this
kombucha stand within the store, and I would be there
or my mother would be there virtually every weekend and
we would just sample, sample, sample, talk about it. And
so your point earlier is to be honest, kombucha back then,
at least wasn't something that people really gravitated to purely
from a flavor standpoint, because back then we were programmed differently,

(12:41):
or at least our palate was where it was Snapple,
it was seven Up Coke, Pepsi, Gatorade. I mean, those
were really the iconic brands, especially in the beverage space.
But it's amazing how much sugar we were drinking, you know,
like and not like natural sugar, like bullshit sugar. I
mean I was a big snout. I would drink peach
Snap when I was like in high school and then

(13:02):
we were like it was going out of style, Oh
my god. And and and of course regular coke when
we were kids, my dad would get the two leader
bottle of regular coke and you look back and go
just just man, we were just pounding processed sugar. Oh
my god, you're so right. I mean the two things
that snappled it brilliantly is made from the best stuff
on earth, which is like the world's biggest scam. And

(13:24):
then the second one was the high fud dost corns
are up that I remember me and my friends were like, look,
it's it's corn. So it's a vegetable and it's fruit
dose and that's found in fruit. Like we're good, this
is this is gonna work. And then we all got diabetes.
So no, it's just amazing how how much sugar for
no reason, we were all just pounding. Yeah, it's true.

(13:47):
So I mean that's a great thing. And so that's
why it's your point. Now, kombucha is really more of
a popular thing. Is as I think our palates and
the consumer's behavior has evolved, kombucha is a perfect opportunity
to participate in new kind of palate, which is why
you're seeing more sour foods, more sour drinks. You're seeing
things that have more of an alternative flavor versus like

(14:09):
the just the highly salty or highly sugary stuff that
we used to drink, you know, a decade ago. I
like it because for me, it tastes so different from
everything else that it feels like an afternoon treat, like
it's something I can look forward to having, because it's not.
It's just it's I've said this to you before, and

(14:29):
I've said it to the audience before that it almost
feels like you're having a cocktail. I mean, there's no
booze in it, or there's a microscopic amount of boosing it,
but you but you feel like it's the feeling you
have like oh cool, days over, I'm gonna have a beer,
but this you can have. Like at one, it's like,
oh cool, after lunch, I'm gonna have a I'm gonna
treat myself to a kimbucha, you know what I mean.
Has that feeling to me? It definitely feels like sometimes

(14:50):
it also sometimes feels like a substitute instead of a beer.
You can reach for a kimbucha and you feel and
you also you know that when you're drinking it, you're
feeling you're filling your body with probiotics, which is crazy
to really think about. Like when I think probiotics, I'm
thinking I'm gonna hold my nose. I'm gonna get it
down as quick as possible. But with this, it's just

(15:10):
like I feel like, you know, I feel like I'm
having my evening beverage, you know, but I'm also getting
I'm also giving I'm also giving my body the nutrition
it needs, and that's always a great feeling. Yeah, And
that's exactly what we hear actually from our fans, is
that a lot of people say, you know it, when
I drink your kombucha, it feels like a reward. It

(15:33):
feels like a treat. It feels like I'm rewarding myself
or something great and so, but it's completely guilt free
and guiltless. So it's almost like, I mean, there's a
lot of analogies that I could use, you know, working
out to one of them, But this is gonna sound
like a silly wood almost like dancing. Dancing something that
you have fun when you're doing, but it's also a
great workout. So kombucha is kind of like that, where

(15:54):
you enjoy it and it's experiential in that respect, but
it's actually also helping your body. I feel it about
pellets on. Yeah, Donald and I have both Donald and
I have both been spinning and it's like fun. I mean,
I mean, granted it sucks sometimes and you and you're
cursing at the sky, but but you're still like, it's
definitely the most fun form spinning and or or or cycling.

(16:15):
I should say, if you don't have a like, it's
almost it's really fun to me. Now, how do you
feel about how do you feel about celebration with kimbuchts,
like you know, like I once put tequila. Yeah, we
wanted to ask him because this has come up with
Donald and I were like, we a lot, we know
he's a health matter. We allowed to ask him about
putting booze in it because I want to know what

(16:37):
your thoughts as a company are on this, because I
have friends not just Donald's, who loved to mix it
with a little something something, and I want to know
what you thought about that. Well, actually, I'm all for
it because, first of all, as we know, you know,
until recently, mixers were just kind of loaded with sugar
and loaded with preservatives and had really no nutritional value.
So kimbucha is a great replacement for those just on
that alone, But then when you factor in that, yes,

(16:59):
you could argue mixing alcohol with something healthy is somewhat counterintuitive,
but in reality, you're actually reducing the negative impact of
the alcohol, because a lot of people say that not
only do they get a kind of a clearer buzz
when they mix their alcohol with kombucha, but nine out
of ten times, if not ten out of ten times,
they don't get a hangover the next That's what John
what I was saying. My buddy Josh Rayden, he we

(17:23):
went over to his house. Donald, were you there? We
must have been together. I wasn't there. I wasn't there.
I must have. I don't know how you told about.
We went over his house and he's like, my new
things at your house, dude, at your house. Oh, at
my house. He brought it over to my house, but
I first did it. He's like my new thing. I
figured it out. You mix any of the GTS kombucha
flavors with tequila, no hangover. And we were like what

(17:44):
and but that's like his whole jam. That's that's his
drink of choice. It's true. And he's a bachelor. He's
a bachelor. So you go over his house and the
only thing in the fridge is like an array of
GT's kombucha flavors and tequila. He knows how to live. No,
it's funny. I was like nervous, I said it. Donald

(18:05):
was like I was nervous to ask him, like, I
know he's super healthy. Like are we allowed to mix
booze with loose? No? No, listen, you know, let's share
with you my philosophy. First of all, you should never
demonize anything, right, Like, so, whether it's alcohol, whether it's
even sweets or things of that nature. Like, we should
allow our bodies to eat whatever we want them to eat,
but in moderation, because if I think an extreme of

(18:26):
anything is unhealthy. And so, yeah, go ahead, mix your
kombucha with alcohol. I mean again, at least it's a
better choice and a better option, right And and how
are you? Like you must be so successful? Like are you?
Are you wearing gold shoes? Is your mom are oud
of you? Is your mom proud of you after all

(18:47):
of us? Yeah? Yeah, my mom is very proud of me.
But you know what, I really owe it to her.
It's her story, her experience, her love, her light, her
you know, spirituality that helped me do what I do
and navigate it through twenty five years because I have
to be honest. You know, when starting kimbucha twenty five
years ago, it was not easy. I mean, I can't
tell you how many times people would spit it up

(19:08):
in my face or say, no, way, no, how will
this ever be sold in my store? It tastes weird,
looks weird, smells weird. But it was really having the
support of my mother constantly telling me that you're doing
a good thing. You know, it's lonely at the top,
but at least it's not crowded. But the reason why
it's lonely at the top is it's a long, slow
path to success. And you know, imagine being a teenager

(19:29):
not having any friends, not doing the participating the things
that your teenage friends do, and feeling completely alone. You really,
it's almost like what I've always said before is it's
a lot like being, you know, a teenage mom, where
you're just kind of pushed into this adulthood and you
really have to commit to this living thing. In many
ways you have to sacrifice. And so yeah, so it's
been great and I don't take it for granted, and

(19:50):
every day is a blessing in my mind, and the
success they've been able to experience is something I've never
ever ever dreamed of and can and I ride on, wait,
hold on, let's let's just talk about this. Twenty five
years ago you started the company, right, yes, and now
we're coming up on World Kombucha Day. Is this really happening? Yes? Yeah?

(20:12):
What is World Kombucha Day? We wanted to ask you
what that what that is because we want to participate. Yeah, absolutely,
and thank you for asking. So World Kimbuuta Day is
something that we debuted a year ago because kombucha was
first consumed in two twenty one BC, which is a long, long,
long time ago, wait before even I started drinking it.
So we decided to have a World Kombucha Day on

(20:32):
February twenty first, so two twenty one, just like two
twenty one BC. And that kind of the philosophy behind
World Kombucha Day is to really share with the world
people who are relatively new to kombucha. It's history, because
I think a lot of times, especially in this country,
we sometimes overlook history and legacy and lineage when we
just focus on the populary something right here, right now,

(20:53):
and we kind of forget about its soul, forget about
it's you know, it's humble beginnings in its origin. So
World Kombucha Day is really intended to shine a bright
light on that talk about its history, it's tradition of
being consumed, the ritual of making it, and the most
importantly what makes kimbucha special, which it's as a nature
crafted elis or if you will, that's rich with so
many good things that can make us healthy and happy

(21:15):
no matter who you are, where you live. So two
twenty one, because of two twenty one BC two twenty
one is World Cambucha Day, will be celebrating it. Yeah,
we will. All of our factors, real friends, right, fake doctor's,
real friends. We got a date yo, Dave, thank you
so much for coming on. We really appreciate you. And

(21:37):
you know it's it's no bullshit because Donald and I
always say when we have to have the advertisers on
the show, we would so rather it be something we
genuinely love. We try and edit out things that we
don't really believe in or use, and well you'd be
surprised what comes at us. And it's like, yeah, come on, man,
probably gonna say. One thing we've also said no to

(21:58):
is things that we feel are unhealthy for people. We liked.
We like to promote healthy things and so so we're
super stoked that you support the show, and uh, and
we really appreciate you. And i'd also feel like i'd
also kind of feel like a jerk if you know,
you know, we have something it's such a it's such
a healthy product and so good for everyone. I'd feel bad.

(22:20):
Then right after that, I was like, go eating mcdonnald'.
But I mean, I've been watching that. I was. I
was watching them that Jordan documentary about the Bulls of
the Last Dance, which I'm finally watching, and it's so good,
but it's so shameless how these athletes who are in
like the best shape anyone's in, or like be like

(22:41):
sometimes I feel like he is me and they're drinking
gatormane and eating cheeseburgers. It's like, it's like, I know,
get that money, Mike, But come on, you gotta remember
back in the eighties, man, I remember watching tennis players
drink Coca Cola on the on the sidelines of smoke
cigarettes during breaks. Man, were you see those ads, because
they show the ads of like Michael Jordan happily eating

(23:03):
like a gross McDonald's cheeseburger. Yeah, get that money, Yeah,
get that money. I'm grateful to you guys as well,
because I mean, we rarely do advertise and the reason
why we genuinely seek that authentic kind of connectivity that
you guys have shared for us. So from the bottom
my heart, I'm also very grateful. Well, thank you, thank you,
and you're an inspiration. Last question, just because I'm sure

(23:26):
there's a lot of entrepreneurs or young entrepreneurs who dream
of having a success like you've had. What do you
say to people who are just starting out and they're
looking up at the giant mountain of trying to create
a business or a product like do you have any
words of wisdom for them? Oh? Absolutely, And I share
this with anyone who ever reaches out to me for

(23:47):
business advice. I always say, first and foremost, follow your
heart and do what you love the most importantly, do
what makes the world a better place, because I think
sincerely gone are the days where we just create businesses
and products for selfish reasons. I think, you know, even
twenty twenty has told us we all need to work
together to not only heal the planet, but also heal

(24:08):
each other's lives. And so I believe that if you
follow those tips, if you will, that only good things
will come your way and people will genuinely resonate with
what you're trying to offer. That's what we do. We're
just offering laughs and giggles exactly, making people happy. And
that's all we really want, right, Happiness and love, yes,
that's absolutely. And health all we want, and health and health,

(24:29):
hell and health, happiness and love, the pursuit of happiness.
It's in our constitution, dude, it is that's crazy that
they said the pursuit. I know it's in that movie
and everything the movie? Is that the constitution or the
declaration of independence? Daniel, Life, liberty and the pursuit of happening.
I'm calling on you, Daniel. I'm so embarrassed. I think

(24:51):
it might be the declaration of independence. I think you're right.
I think it's okay. We'll check it. We'll check it, Joel, please, Oh,
I am right? All right? Yeah, let me ask my wife.
She'll know, don't apprecie, what happened? Is that that's just independence?
Or is that anything? That's a hard question to answer.

(25:13):
I just wanted seventeen seventy six. She said, whatever she said,
whatever is what's the seven? All right, Dave, thank you
so much for coming on. We appreciate man. I want
to say bye too, all right, say bye. Stop talking
to your wife talking to da. Thank you man, it's
good to see you. Man, it's good to see you.
A good mass. Let me ask you a question. You're
working out like crazy right now? What's going on? Because

(25:34):
I am a we're having conversations on the show. Zach's
a younger man than I am. I have reached that
age where I can't cheat anymore. If I cheat. Guess
what happens. It doesn't go away, It never you know
what I mean? Like if I have a cheat meal,
I'm in deep trouble. So my question is, my question
is are you what what? Other than the kombucha? What
are you doing? This looks so good man, you're looking

(25:56):
you're looking fit. You look he doesn't get high and
eat fried chicken and wad Well, no, actually I do
get high, so you fried waffles. I mean, I'll break
it down if you're really simply. First of all, you know,
I think being plant based as much as possible is huge, right,
But it's not just being plant based, it's making sure
that you're eating a diet that's whole, in a rich

(26:16):
and whole food, So things that aren't in a box,
a can, or a bag, because chances are those are
heavily processed and loaded with stuff that's not good. You know,
I don't believe in cheap days, but as I said earlier,
I do believe in allowing your body to have a
little taste of dessert or a little something just so
you aren't depriving your body of it. But then after
a bite or two, you kind of push the plate away.

(26:37):
And then most importantly, make sure that you break a
sweat every day, right that you just do something, whether
you swim in your pool if you can, or walk
your neighborhood, or go to the gym, or even do
push ups or yoga in your house, because a lot
like brushing your teeth. I think physical fitness is a
daily practice, and when you make it a daily habit,
you never have to make an excuse of why you

(27:00):
to do it or why you couldn't do it. And
so that's what I do, and I work out every day.
And in addition to that, which goes hand in hand
with physical fitness is making sure you get a good
night's rest every night, so I really allow myself eight
hours of sleep no matter what, and that with physical
fitness keeps me in shape. Wow, you look great, man,
and I want to look more like you. I really do.
And I thank you for being on the show man.

(27:21):
You really really really appreciate you. Thank you for having me.
I'm honored. All thank you for love. All right, take care,
We welcome good bye you too. It's always great to
have him on, man, right, it's always great. We haven't
had him on before. What are you talking about? We've
had it, well, had on zoom. You know what I mean,

(27:44):
what we have when we talk to him on zoom
and stuff. Oh my god, fucking hell, you're so stone
right now, I am right now. You just said it's
always great to have him on. We haven't had him
on before. That's how high. Let me let me try
and let me try and save. Let me hear, Let
me hear it, Let me hear it's from the zooms man,

(28:05):
because we do. Yes, we've we You and I have
privately zoomed him. Yes, that has and that I kind
of confused said, it's always great to have him on
zooms to talk to him. No, all bullshit aside. He
is the inspiration man because not only is he a
super healthy guy, he like created this company when he

(28:26):
was a baby, and uh, he's the biggest, biggest Combucher
brand in the world. What's crazy is that is that
I would never have guessed that he was forty three
years old. That's he doesn't look it. He looks a
lot younger than that. All right, should we should we
go to break and come back with the Sarah Chunk? Sure,
we'll be right back with Sarah Chunk and we're bad. Yes,

(28:57):
game stuff? You want to talk about? Game? Stop? Donald?
Should we talk about what's going on? I don't quite understand.
I understand that I don't understand how the stock is
being driven up? Is it? I've read enough and Daniel
will probably have a better answer, But I've read enough
to let me try. Okay, Joe, Well, Joel also probably
knows a lot. Okay. My guess is my I often
guess which one of you will know more about a

(29:19):
given topic, and I'm usually kind of right. You always go, Daniel, say,
Joel is so knowledgeable. Joel, I go Joelle. I go
for pop culture things because she's a critic and knows
a lot about pop culture. Daniel and I go for politics.
I think he knows a lot about politics, and well
after when his dad did that one time. Yeah yeah, yeah,

(29:44):
go ahead, So let me give my my I'm gonna
give him my my my quickest take on it. Okay,
and Daniel will correct me. You can bet that a
stock will fail because you think that the company is
going to crash. So when all these game companies came
out with their downloading the games and not buying them anymore,
it didn't take a genius to be like game Stop

(30:05):
is doomed. Everyone was even joking about that, like rip
game Stop when all those new consoles came out, and
so the hedge fund and the stock market folks said, oh,
we're gonna short this, meaning we're going to we're gonna
bet that it's going to fail. Okay, it's very intricate
how it all works, but they're basically when you're playing

(30:25):
craps exactly exactly. And what they didn't expect is that
the people this group on Reddit called Wall Street Bets
would say we can do what's called a short squeeze
if we all band together, which means if we start
buying that if enough of us start buying game Stop stock,

(30:47):
it will drive the price up, which is the exact
opposite of what all these people betting against it thought
it was going to do. And what happens is they
have to then to get out, they have to buy
it back, and as they buy it back, it drives
the price up again. So it creates this loop of
the redditors, the people without a lot of money who

(31:10):
were just sort of independent, independent stock purchasers. They their
stock goes crazy and they start making insane money and
they're burying these huge hedge fund companies. How long does
this last? For? How long? That? I don't know, Daniel,
you go, I think so, Zach, that was one hundred
percent correct. Thank you very well. Put I didn't understand

(31:31):
it at all until I read about it. I also
want to preface that I am not a financial expert,
and this is not financial advice. Yes, okay. I think
an important part to add to this conversation is that
and one of my favorite tweets about this is that
this is kind of like Occupy Wall Street, but twice
as stupid, but twice as effective. Yeah. So, because they're

(31:52):
giving the finger to these hedge funds precisely. I mean,
Occupy Wall Street was an opportunity for people to express
their concern with the amount of money at you know,
Wall Street was controlling and how much that was controlling politics,
And this was a way for people to make that
like a headline news story by literally destroying these hedge
funds one at a time. Now, the problem and the answer,

(32:14):
the question of how long is this going to last,
is that companies like robin Hood or the the app
robin Hood, who is allowing this kind of trade, or
is allowing retail investors to trade in such small ways,
has all of a sudden stopped allowing trading on things
like GameStop, AMC, Nokia BlackBerry. I think the pause there, right, Yeah, yes,

(32:36):
they are back on. Sorry, that's right about I'm getting
to all that. So they stopped, and that is what
is basically this whole draw aware. Yeah, this was to
draw awareness to the power of Wall Street over politics,
over trading, over all of that, because this is a
situation where we're saying the little guy has the opportunity

(32:57):
to trade, and rich people are saying, wait, don't do that.
I totally I told yeah, dude, that's where that's where
that's where it gets messed up. It's like, wait, hold on,
we're just doing what you did. I'm lumping myself in
with all the people these games out people, I have
no I have no investment in game staff, just to
be clear. But let's put it this way. I wish

(33:22):
I'd be selling right now. I'd be selling soon. But wait,
that's let me finish. Let me finish question the problem.
The thing that's crazy is that it's like out of nowhere,
all of these people who were working the crap out
of this system are trying to stop the common person

(33:44):
from doing it themselves. And that's that's and that's wrong.
That's that's where the BS comes in. It's like, wait
a second, how can you shut down the site for
one night? And or sorry, how can you restrict for
one night? Do you know not how much money they
blew in one for all of these common people who
don't have the opportunity to invest like this. That was

(34:06):
like what is it? Like millions and billions? They were
allowed They were allowed to sell. I believe they just
weren't allowed to buy more. Correct, But but that is illegal.
It's a nineteen thirty six Act about you know, you're
not allowed to stop trading on the open market at
any point. You are not allowed. That is against the law.
And that's what Robin Hood did effectively, was stop trading
on the open market, and solely because apparently bigger companies

(34:29):
called them and said you gotta stop si we're gonna
go broke or potentially the government right which is which
which would be really fucked up? Well, now that isn't
there an investigation as an investigation, Yeah, the government is
stepping in now. And ultimately what this will probably lead
to a stricter regulations against retail traders, making it harder
for the common man to invest or a common person

(34:50):
rather to invest into the open trading market. Which was
the goal of this in the first place, was to
draw attention once again to the power that the super
wealth you have over what is supposed to be a
global stock market. We're talking about billions of dollars in
wealth just appearing and disappearing because people were deciding to
be like, hey, guys, see what's going on here, the
short squeeze that's happening. Boom, game stop, this is where

(35:13):
it's happening right now. And then the government says whoa, whoa,
whoa you you know you. I don't want to sit
pores you you know, regular folk are they? But that's
what people like. People feel like this. Yeah, it feels
like tat meat cake situation kind of know what feels like?

(35:36):
What's the exit though? Where where my brain? Or at
least what I understand about this ends is how do
they how do how does everyone dismount? So basically the dismount,
I mean the dismount is that a bunch of people
sell their shares and game Stop I mean like this
is not this is not a long haul where all
of a sudden, game Stop is this huge, super profitable company.
Well know, and one of the elephant in the room

(35:58):
is the game Stop is not worth three hundreds of
dollars a share, No, not at all. Not So so
what happens now this stop? What we hope for is
more transparency. You know what I'm saying, How did these
people get out? They just sell them and somebody's gonna
be stuck with that bill, somebody's gonna be stuck with
at someone's gonna get stuck with the bag. And that's
the problem. That's the that's the problem. Basically, Wall Street

(36:18):
bets is at the start was meant to be like
stupid ass stock calls, Wall street bets is not a
place to give legitimate financial advice. And despite the fact
that during this time it has evolved kind of into
that where it's more about like, here's how you can
help take thet. Bets is for people who may not
know Zac was saying that at the beginning. But Wall

(36:39):
street bets is a subreddit, yeah stubreddit and read it
as a website that's like a content aggregator. There's a
lot of smaller what are called subreddits that are based
on different categories, and one of them is called Wall
street bets, which is basically for meme stocks. It's stock
memes jokes about where people are investing in dumb shit.
But over the past couple of weeks it is evolved
into people like taking it more and more seriously and

(37:01):
the issue that it's creating and I think what should
is going or not should, but what is going to
become The central narrative of this is that regular people
are going to lose the ships on of money because
they participated in this meme stock thing thinking they could
make it rich when they're not going to so you
can make it rich. If you can make it rich
if you get out like before, Yeah, if you get
out of immediately, if you're paying attention this whole time.
But people are seeing this now, like even yesterday and

(37:22):
being like, oh shit, I'm gonna put like ten grand in.
It's like, oh well, now it's too late. But I
mean if they if they cash out now though, they
can make a lot of money. Right. I even feel
bad saying that on the podcast right now because like
the fact is no, Like the fact is no. It's
like people should not be participating in this at this point. No,
I don't even investing now, but I mean there are
people investing in general. No, I'm saying there are people

(37:45):
that are in already who made a million dollars or more.
There's a there's a user on Reddit a deep fucking
value who was looking at a twenty two million dollar
come up off of this. So how do you how
do you how do you get that? How do you
get that money? Though? How do you get that money?
If nobody's going to buy this stock now at this point? Well,
you've got credit? Well, like what the fuck? Like the

(38:07):
how's you gotta claim this? Twenty two million. The hedge
funds that own that stock have to pay them out.
And that's and that's because they instead of those hedge
funds dissolving after paying this and going bankrupt and stuff
like that, the government is probably going to bail them,
bail them out to keep the hedge funds going. And
that is what we need to all be paying attention to,

(38:27):
because that is where we're going to see. This is
like one of those mass we bail them out last time.
It's it's it's like that. The it's two thousand and
eight all over again. I know there's a movie about this.
You think everybody would be worth paying attention to this,
but yet money has so much control over politics, like
all of the stuff still continues to this side. Way.
If you're so confused and board about this conversation, I apology, No,

(38:47):
it's fine, but I want to talk about it, and
so did Donald and Joel. But anyway, listen, there's a
movie that Adam mckamain called The Big Short R. And
The Big Short sort of explains it in a much better,
funnier way. You never counted us in? Do you want
to count us in? Right before Sarah joins us stories
about show we made about a bunch of nurses stories

(39:19):
yea around here, yea around m Sorry, I got very
heated about that. Great, it's such a great topic. Like
America's changing, America's changing before our eyes. Man, Like, literally,

(39:39):
we are witnessing, we are witnessing a revolution. Literally, can
you imagine? Like the guy who who? Who's who? Made
twenty two million dollars off Game Stop? Do you want it?
You should see if you should see a picture of him.
It's really funny. He better not do what we Run did.
Remember when we Run got those credit cards and he
bought the Scooba tech on what's happening? It's not like that.

(40:00):
The twenty two million after taxes, My man, that's freaking
he is banked, dude. Yeah, he can have a couple
of scuba tanks. By more than a couple of scuba tanks.
Another funny part of this is that like after he
made like, he doesn't a daily update it's called the
GMI Yolo update every day about how much money he made.

(40:21):
Yesterday he lost thirteen million dollars. It was one day
because he didn't get out. Well, it's not that he
I mean he's holding because we're still trying to fuck
over this hedge fund. So the people who have all
the money right now, Yeah, everybody's holding. What they're doing?
Are they aren't they online? Please don't sell whatever you do,

(40:42):
don't sell. But wait, wait, can you explain last point
in this audience? I'm sorry if this isn't interest you,
but it's so interesting to me. Why why now? Why
not sell now? Because it's gonna come crashing down? Don't
you want to sell and get your money out while
you can. It's just I mean, the goal again, this

(41:02):
is about sending There's a large part of this about
sending a message, and a lot of people are putting
a lot of money behind sending a message. And I
think that's where the disparity comes in between people who
are kind of getting in late seeing this is a
money making opportunity and people who are participating in fuck
all of these hedge funds just short squeezing companies to
make even more money for you know nothing. They're like,

(41:22):
fuck you, we are going to get in this. We're
going to invest a bunch of money, and we're not
going to let go until you pay for it. It
is kind of fucked up though. Can you imagine like
you create a company and you know, it becomes huge
and then and then you're let's say it's not doing well.
All of a sudden, there's people who's they're like, they're like,
what are those birds that fly above all? They're like

(41:44):
vultures who are like, great, let's all bet that this
company's gonna fail. Now when it dies, I'm eaten. And
then tell everyone. Let's tell everyone it's going to fail,
because then we're gonna make money off of it because
we need to broadcast, we need to we need to
gossip that it's about to fail because then we'll make money.
I know Elon Musk was really upset because these hedge
funds like shorted hist Tesla. Yeah, and so he's gleeful

(42:08):
about this. Yeah, And I mean it's just, you know,
the stock market, it's controlled by such a small group
of people sharing billions and billions of dollars, and it's
like the regular person wants to get in and enjoy
and people are saying, no, not for you. Yeah, that's
the thing, man, When when when when when you get
into the stock market, It ain't like the movies where

(42:30):
it's you know, where you're where you're all it's all
fly and fancy and stuff like that. You can do that,
but most likely you're gonna lose all your money doing that.
The best way to do it is to get like
little things that are that are solid and can't go down. Right, Yeah,
I mean that's but it's still gambling. But the joy

(42:50):
is but I know, but the joy is freaking living
that fast life and making that fast cash. I don't
think a lot of I don't think a lot of
day traders a ton of luck, right, I mean, like
some don't, get me wrong, some do, but I think
in the movies they do. I think that Dan Lareen
I write that a lot of day traders like really
get fucked. I mean, I don't know about I can't

(43:12):
give you a stat on a lot versus a little,
but what I can say is that like, day trading
is not like a it's a full time job. It's like,
if you decide to be a day trader, you're talking
about an incredibly diverse portfolio where some of your money
is going up and some of your money is going down.
And like if you're getting part of one stock, you're failing.
You want to have like one hundred things you're invested in,

(43:33):
because then you're just watching all the numbers go up
and it's like, oh, I made a hundred dollars here,
I'm made a thousand dollars here, I'm ind ten grand here,
I lost fifty grand here. But it's okay because blah
blah blah blah blah. It's like day trading is. It's
not a joke, and it's not like a small thing either,
So it's like, yeah, it's yeah, it's you can make money,
for sure, but it's like, you know, do you want
to invest as much time into getting it to learn
the stock market as you did to get into acting. No,

(43:55):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I'm not saying I
want to become a day trader. And I think the
people that do this, and I know they sit in
front of screen and it's their full time job. I
saw like a doc about it. I feel like that's
vaguely in my brain but correct. But I think a
lot of people. Again I have no stats, but I
feel like people get in over their heads totally. They've
got and they and just like gambling totally, just like

(44:15):
Donald going back to the atm in Vegas. They keep going,
keep going, and then all of a sudden they fucking
lose everything. Yes, the only point I was making about
acting was just about an investment of time. Because when
people look at you two, they say they're incredibly successful.
I could not imagine the skills it took to be
as good at acting as these two are. It's like,
think about putting that exact same amount of time and

(44:37):
investment into being a day trader. I'm not saying that's
what you're doing. I'm saying that, like as people look
at easy money making opportunities in here, it's not easy.
It takes work, it takes time, just like everything else
that we do. It's like craps. Really, it really is
like craps. It really is like you gotta be able
to watch so many things when you're playing craps. You

(44:57):
gotta you make so many bets, and you put so
many things out there, and it's really easy to lose
track of what's what and how much what pays and
all of that stuff. You're really good at craps. I've
been I've been robbed at craps, I know, but I've
had fun with you. I've been robbed you, literally doing
you at least understand every time I said that dealer himself.

(45:19):
Every time I step up to the craps table, I'm
usually with I only do it when I'm with someone
who knows how to play, like Donald, and I'm always like,
how the hell are all these people keeping track? Even
like the dealers or whatever you call them. I don't
know if you call them dealers at a craps table,
but how are they possibly or isn't it like croupier
or something. I think it's crew pier. I don't know.

(45:40):
I know that game is fun, dude, you know when
your brain vomits up a term that you didn't even know.
I was like, whatever they call those crap creupier. Anyway,
I'm always like, how do they keep track of all
that's going on? It's so impressive. But anyway, Donald, i've
been with you and we've had some fun. I'd never
know what to do. I'm like, what do I do?
And You're like, do this? Do this? It's a fun

(46:00):
game even when you just know it a little bit.
It's so confusing. But it's like, wait, I get paid,
I'll take it. What do you mean you're taking my money,
aren't you? Aren't you impressed that the that those guys,
the croupiers, they can keep track of all that's going
on the table. I just like the way they call numbers,
you know what I mean. They get very creative with
calling numbers, like that. First time I ever heard somebody

(46:23):
do the Sports Center theme to nine nine nine. Really? Yeah, alright?
Is Canada's favorite actress here? Yes she is? All right?
Let her in. Let that girl in. You love to
love it, the cutest blonde on earth. Or camera's off

(46:43):
and she's let's see if she's figured it out. Let's
see if she can figure it out. I figured it out.
We can't hear you. Oh it air pods. I take
the air pods out, lead them out, lead them in.

(47:03):
You can't do it, Okay, I are better? Hi, Hi,
guys gets so fancy. I just got these air pods,
and then Daniel had told me how to connect them.
But I guess I don't need them. I don't need
you do need them? You do need them? So funny.

(47:26):
I love you so much. I really thought this many times.
She'd be like, you know what, it's not gonna be
funny anymore because she's gonna be able to figure out
how I got on a zoom call. So I need
to make sure it is that I have the air pods. Sarah, Sarah,

(47:52):
I just can't imagine how you go about your day.
I just can't. So, Sara, this is zoom and it's
it's a video conferenceation. Can you hear me? Okay? So
you're not gonna believe me, but I just finished like
this three day press junket for Firefly Lane, and I

(48:12):
was like, I was so proud because there was not
one technical glitch and I just thought I was gonna
prest you guys. I honestly was thinking, oh, man, Sarah's
got this, Sarah's got this dialed, so we're never Why
can't I hear Zach? I can't hear you? No, gosh,
just Sarah, just to make sure, so you know, in

(48:34):
the bottom in zoom, in the little next to the microphone,
just make sure, okay, So just make sure that the
speaker is set to your air pods, because we can
hear you through your computers mic, which is good, but
we need to make sure we're only coming through your
air pods. Talk to me down, Hi, can you hear me? Am?
I coming through just your air pods. No, you're coming,

(48:54):
I'm going also coming through my speaker. Okay, so we
need to stop that. Oh my god, don't edit this out.
It's too amazing. Ed Daniel. Daniel loves me, he's gonna
edit this out. So he's gonna edit it out. Just
remind me really quickly. I'm going into the microphone at
the bottom of the big zoom window and the bottom
left is a microphone symbol. Yeah, oh yeah, we's down
a little arrow next to it. And then for speaker,

(49:16):
make sure it's set to air pods. And then for microphone,
make sure it's set to like a microphone or a
computer microphone. Oh thank god. Yay. So now we're just
coming through your AirPods and not coming through the speaker.
Just sweating, just dripping, just you're doing sweat right now.
I'm just nailing it. I'm really fucking nailing this. Guys.
Let's be on. You talked about it early, you talked
about it. Let's tell everybody about your new show. Sarah. Yeah, Sarah,

(49:39):
tell us about your new show. Congratulation, congratulations Katherine Heigel, right, yes,
thank you so much. It was it was Katherine Heigel
and I playing best friends over three decades, and it's
based on a book Firefly Lane, and we play these
two best friends. We get to play ourselves at eighteen,
twenty three and forty three? Wow, how did you possibly

(50:04):
do forty three? Sarah? Because it is a mystery really,
I mean the aga, because I don't understand how you
would ever play forty three. I know if they did,
they got like Elmer's glue and they rubbed it on
their hands and then put on my face and they're like,
it's still only thirty six. We gotta get some other

(50:26):
I don't know what we're gonna do. It was so
humbling to sit in a hair and makeup trailer and
have people consult on how to make you look younger.
So if if you've put tape right on your neck,
like what if we just you know, I was like, what,
oh my god? Do they do the things where they
tape here on your eye? We tried that, but it

(50:48):
just instead of making you look younger, just made you
look like you had like a kind of like a facelift. Yeah,
and we were because we were in wigs too, so
the wigs kind of naturally and then I think they
just Benjamin buttoned us and use some CGI. But that
I mean, that was like so ridiculously fun. Obviously, the
eighties is like my favorite decade. I still have like

(51:08):
a drawer full of dress up clothes for my kids
of my own things from the eighties, and so yeah,
that piece was ridiculous. We got to go and play.
So what network is on? How do we find it? Netflix? Netflix? Netflix?
Everybody chill and when a Netflix and Chill? When does
it come out? February third? Tomorrow, guys, tomorrow on Netflix.

(51:30):
You know you're tired of all the ship and you
have on your on your streaming. You look and you're like, no, no, no, no,
Well guess what Sarah Chalk is giving you a present.
It's called fire Fly Lane, right, yes, tomorrow on Netflix,
maybe saying a little bit more confident. Sorry, let me
do that again, you guys. It's called Firefly Lane with

(51:53):
the Sarah Chalk and the Catherine Heigel and it's funny
and I bet it's charming. Is there romance? Do you
have a love interest? Should I be jealous? There's there's
actually I have a few. I was at one day
where I looked on the call sheet and I was like,
there's not one boy on this call sheet that I
haven't made it with. And definitely, yeah, I got I
mean obviously on scrubs, like I got to wear a

(52:13):
lot of broad and underwear. But it's very different doing
that in your twenties versus your forties. And so I
mean there was a lot of days where I was like, oh,
naked in a pool swimming at night in Canada. Excellent,
and so wily didn't. So friend, sorry to interrupts you, Sarah,
but for those of you who might be interested, Sarah
is often scantually clad. So watch that tomorrow. Do we

(52:33):
see crack? Do we see crack? Do you show there
was a there was a conversation about that. We did not,
but you know, it still was definitely getting like so
far out of my comfort zone because even though the
way you know, obviously you can shoot it in different ways,
but you're still there in front of like one hundred
crew members who you know very well by this point,

(52:55):
in not a lot more than stickers. Let me ask
you a question, yeah, and you can answer it or
don't answer it. Are you simulating sex in this movie? Yes,
they're simulated. No? No, I mean, you know Katherine Heigel's
character Tully goes a little bit further than mine, and

(53:15):
those types of scenes I do have to do like
kind of no, it's more like the beginnings of it's
never No, you're not humping. There's no humping. You know what,
you got to watch everybody show. You gotta watch this show.
I'm kind of gonna watch now. I was gonna watch,
but now I'm gonna extra watch. I'm gonna sit watch.
I'm gonna sit closer to the TV. Now, you guys

(53:37):
are gonna relate to you, guys, I'm seeing you in
a long time. Sarah, you're looking good. Yeah, you look beautiful.
Oh it's because I just had to do this junket
thing and they showed me how to go into zoom
and like there's a button to like touch up your appearance.
So it's just you don't need like Sara. Well, you
guys are going to be able to understand why this

(53:59):
was like scarier for me than any of that, you know,
level of undress. The thing that was the most terrifying, uh,
and the thing I had to get most outside of
my comfort zone was I had to sing no way,
oh no, no, you're the one's always broadcasts that you're
you always broadcast that you're a horrible singer. But I'm

(54:21):
sure you can carry a tune. No, she cannot. I can't.
I truly can't. So so the Maggie said, to the
Maggie Freeman, the creative our show said, so, how do
you fee about karaoke? Or you can rap. We're gonna
have you rap an Eminem song. And I was like,
I'm so down. That's so fun. I love it. I
can't wait. So then the Eminem song did not clear,
and it was right before like a two week break

(54:42):
for Christmas holidays, and she said, okay, so we've cleared
these five songs, so pick anyone that you want and
you can sing it for karaoke. And I I was like, oh,
but the like these are all singing. There's no rap here,
and she said, yeah, you have to pick one. So
I'm driving up to Whistle. My sister Piper's driving. I'm
in the passenger seat, my kids in the back, and

(55:03):
I'm just like given her, just belting out one after
the next, and Piper's like, nope, next one, not a chance,
next one hundred percent, no, next one. Don't even think
about it, and so then I'm like, Piper, we're out
of songs, Like, we're out of songs. I have to
pick one of these. So I call up Maggie and
I was like, Maggie's sure, there's like not any rap

(55:24):
song in the history of turning. They're clear, please please,
for the love of God, I was kicked out of
the choir by missus McKinnon in grade five in Discards
for Life, and I, you know, told chalk girl's mouth
the words for this performance singing Christmas Carols in the
mall and she said, no, it's really it's one of
these five third songs. So I had to sing and
I asked for a singing lesson, so they gave me

(55:46):
a singing lesson, which was great. And then and then
it comes to the day to do it, and we
get to the bar and they're like, well, there's no
place to set up a screen for karaoke, and we
really want to get the audio from today, so we're
just put an earwig in your ear and so you're
gonna be singing. The bar will be silent. Oh my god,

(56:07):
the sound of my grating voice. What's salting out to
something by Chumba Womba and what's that song I get
knocked down? Whiskey good times? Do you think that times?

(56:29):
Danny Boy? Will you give our audience a little preview
of this, Sarah go, Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean
it was I will just start sweating even more than
I did try to figure out the headphones and the
your pods piece of this interview. I love that you
are singing now. Well well, so, I mean I came

(56:51):
home and told my sisters this story, and they were like,
stopped talking. I can't They were like, I can't even
hear it, It's just the idea, Like they just got
so uncomfortable hearing that. I had to get up in
front of one hundred people and just like fill this
bar with the sound of only my voice, and I
had this earwig, not with the actual song playing, but
just sort of like this clicking rhythm of like, and

(57:12):
I was like, but you know that I'm not musical,
and I don't understand when to jump in, like just
jump in with my dialogue. And so I was just like, okay,
the only way I just through I just gotta I
just started dancing, like while I was singing, to try
and distract for the fact that I was singing, And
let me ask you something. How was your Katherine Heigel experience?

(57:34):
Did you enjoy working with her? So, Katie, Katherine and
I had never met. Douley Hill is a mutual friend.
My god, how why does Da Hill come up every
episode when we don't bring even when we don't bring him,
bring him up, our guests bring him up because he's
when you have him on. Let me come on and
say thank you to him. Because what happened was he

(57:57):
called me and he was like, my friend, Katherine Heigel
is doing this Netflix series called Firefly Lane in Vancouver,
your hometown. Can you guys, you know, chat about neighborhoods
and schools and stuff that for her kids. And so
we got on the phone and we talked for like
an hour and just really had the best time. And
it was like a month later, I think I got
this script in my inbox and I opened it up.

(58:19):
I was like, wait, this is this is Katherine Heigel show.
And I read it and it was just this incredible
story and I was so in love with the part
and in love with the idea of playing somebody over
three decades. And so then we met at the cast party,
and then our first two days together were like, you know,
playing dressed up in the hair and makeup trailer, going

(58:39):
like wait, put that, wait, cut your hair short, longer,
try this wig on, more blue eyes, shadow less shoulder pads,
more stirrup pants. And then we just you know, started
hanging out on the weekends and hiking the dogs. And
then she would have wine and cheese nights for the
cast at her house, and then I had parties at
my house and her husband and Josh would come over

(59:00):
and bring his guitar, and then it evolved into like
dance parties in my backyard. And it was just one
of those things where we got so lucky because I
think you have to fake. I mean, it's like you
guys are best friends in real life, and so that's
just like translated in the show. We just got along
so well, and I think having to fake when you're
actually doing scenes where you're sobbing on someone's shoulder. Okay,
you're not gonna believe this. Hang on a second, I'm

(59:23):
taking this. Women, I had I had a time to eat,
so right before we started, I thought it would make
a cruel youth. Ever, oh my god, in case, in case,

(59:44):
anyone didn't know if Sarah was her real character as Elliott.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. You know what I
was like what it smells so good and bad all
at the same time. You are such a character, Sarah talk.
Should we get into the show? Yeah, we should probably
talk about Scrubs? All right, Sorry, sorry for the one
hour prologue. It's time to talk about the television show Scrubs.

(01:00:09):
Donald Ready, are you ready with your recap? Ready? Let
me set my timer because everyone wants to know and go.
Carla has competition in the advice department. Cox needs a win.
Jd and Elliott seemed to be on the relationshipment and
Molly Clock played by Heaven Graham, could be its own

(01:00:32):
investigative medical comedy with the cast of Scrubs as a
supporting element. Being competitive is one of the most resourceful
human assets in life. It can fuel a person to greatness.
Some people go too far, some people have a problem.
Life isn't a competition, but I often find I'm most
effective and successful, and I compete in its game, in

(01:00:56):
its game. Nice forty six seconds graft guy. Hey, I
was not to mention the Jordan documentary again, but you
just made me think of it. How they were like,
do you have a gambling problem. He's like, no, I'm
addicted to competing. And it made me think of what
you just said, because he just wanted to He wanted
to bet, He wanted to compete on anything and everything

(01:01:16):
in his life. And yeah, and my point is it
drove him, Like you're saying, the characters in this episode, yeah,
I mean, you can become great just because of the
because of your competitive nature. You know. It's it's half
of the half of the game is to compete. Yeah,
And everybody in this episode is competing absolutely in some way,

(01:01:40):
shape or form. Yeah. Now, this episode has a very
famous moment in it for the Scrubs fans, and that
is when Johnny c McGinley starts the episode off by saying,
either this kid has a light bulb up his butt
or his colon has a great idea the X ray.

(01:02:00):
That is one of the funniest little jokes I think
ever in Scrub's history. Now, was there another episode about
the ass box or was this the only ass box episode? No,
there's no, there's there's a episode that's solely about right
and and and as Scrubs Wiki points out the light
bulb that's finally pulled out of this young man's sphincter

(01:02:22):
anus cavity would likely go in the ass box if
it weren't for the fact that the guys decide to
put it in Kelso's lamp. Right, and that's so funny
he goes there. The heat from the light that's so gross,

(01:02:44):
perculates the ship the whole. The major storyline of this
episode is how do you get a light bulb out
of someone's anal cavity. You got to go from the
top and push. I mean, everyone has everyone has different theories.
And the janitor who knew who knew the janitor would

(01:03:04):
be up such service? And when the fuck is the
janitor doing in an operating room and the same time,
at the same time on a mask. Nobody has on
anything at this end, you have to you know, if
it's framed out, obviously, but you have to imagine that
the guy is on all fours with his anus opens
of the sky, right and and and the two doctors, okay,

(01:03:25):
they're there, but so is the janitor just looking down
like how is that guy? Okay? It was like, what
would he never think to say? Guys can you kick
the janitor out of there? Well, the fact that they're
doing it for this guy and Kelso's like when Cox,
He's like, let me guess he donated a wing and
Kelso goes, he donated a wing, a thigh and the

(01:03:47):
breast as he goes, yes, genius in this metaphor of
the hospital is a chicken. That was very funny. I
laughed at this episode. Yeah, there's very much you want
to remember this episode at all. I don't remember this
at all. First of all, it's the first time you

(01:04:07):
ever call Neil janitor. That's usually Saturah's thing. But you're
like Canada, right, yeah, dude, Like I love the three
of them together. The three of them together was a
lot of fun. It was like it was when Neil
shows up in a doctor's coat and then he puts
on the old school mirror, right, where'd you get the coat?

(01:04:34):
There's some very funny Neil things. What about when Satura
and I are are are in the we're coat chiefs, right,
and we're in our tiny office and uh and Neil
comes in and he bangs his card against our desks.
He's like, sorry, sorry, time to clean, and we're like
and then he goes, oops, he's spraying. He goes, oops,
that one got away, and I'm like, oh, it burns
since in my eyes over he goes, I'm only burns.

(01:04:56):
Write that down, Write that down. I want to talk
about the supporting cast in this episode, because the three
of them were hilarious. Todd, Doug, and Uh and Nurse
Roberts have some of the funny. But I wrote down
a Looma was on fire in this episode. When she goes,
maybe she's racist. That shit had me rolling. Why is

(01:05:20):
everybody why Elliott taking advice from Molly and not me?
Maybe she's racist? That was funny. What if I went,
Alma so straight, so straight and so dry? She goes,
Doug wants to give this guy five hundred thousand milligrams
a morphine. I thought I'd check with you before I

(01:05:40):
killed him. Many delivery was perfection, I thought, Castle and
Alma right on the show. We got gotten a lot
of requests, we got Joelle, we gotten a lot of requests.
Let's have both of them on at the same time.
About that and what if? The what about when Zeltzer?

(01:06:01):
When Bob Glenn does That's why my wife and I
use candles. Yeah, what does he mean though? He means
they shove candles up each other. That's this, dude. They
jam candles up each other. They do that. It's a
lot of this. Yeah, how it hurts. Zeltzer is such
a twisted fuck. I love Bob Clendon, another person we
need to have on the podcast. And Nickhead was so

(01:06:22):
funny in this one. I want to talk about beard
Face or beard Face in different points in the background. Yeah,
they can't figure out where Beards works in this hospital,
Like he's all over the place. Have you even noticed that.
I've really noticed because I'm always tracking the progress of
beard Face. He's very often in the pharmacy window, so like,

(01:06:42):
is he a pharmacist? And if he's a pharmacist, how
come he's everywhere else? Like, shouldn't we be filling Bruce
in hospital? Right, He's in the er all the time.
He's everywhere Beards. Yeah. The thing about the key background
players like Beard Fasse, Mickhead Snoop Dogg Resident, they always
knew where the camera was, so they were smart. They knew, like,

(01:07:05):
my background work will be like where the camera is, obviously,
but I'm trying to like process, who Beard Fuss is
in the hospital. Like, if he's not the pharmacist, why
is he always in the pharmacy window? Right? Mickhead is
a doctor. Snoop Dogg is an intern? Is Johnny Castle's

(01:07:27):
a resident? Johnny Castle didn't make resident. He didn't make resident,
make a resident. It's so funny. It's so funny when
Sarah and I each have to pick our interns and
Doug goes pick the hot chick and I go, shut up, Doug,
We'll take the hot chicken. So that was very funny.

(01:07:48):
When when when Cox on the ramp tells me that
Sarah has been chosen as the chief, that was very funny.
I screamed, you throw all there? I go, I just
like this was this is a meme that I see
all the time, or a gift? Why do you hate
me when I show you nothing but love? And then

(01:08:12):
I scream It was one of my favorite moments of
the episodes, that you're like, I just I just have
three questions. Why do you I mean, who's gonna tell
my mom? And what the hell am I gonna do
with five thousand dorian residente president business cards? Yeah, I
made the cards made and then I and then right away.
I used it to hit on a hit on a chick.

(01:08:36):
We should talk about Heather because she's really sad and
and and even though this is an episode and you're narrating,
she kind of is the storyteller in this episode. Yeah,
popping in and out of everywhere. I thought she did
a wonderful job. This actually could be a show. I
remember that after she did her run with Us, she

(01:08:58):
went on and did another show for a little bit.
But I don't know what that Emily's reasons why not? Yeah,
was that a was that the medical show that she
did right after us? It wasn't medical, but it was.
It was. It was short lived, it didn't it didn't
have a long run. But yeah, I mean I think
that this, I mean, I just I'm sure Heather would
agree that this, Like this showed a new side to her.
People knew her as like, you know, the sexy blonde,

(01:09:22):
you know, leading lady, and this really showed that she
could be versatile and be really funny. Yeah, she's very
well she character actor. She showed that she has the skills. Yeah,
she's really funny in this. Yeah. One of my favorite
moments is when when she Judy goes up. Why did
you just close your eyes at me, just like oh,
I can't blink, and she just she's so weird. The

(01:09:44):
character she sets up, She sets up work on a
bench because she can't find her office. Yeah, this is
not my She walks into your office and goes, this
is not my office. You know what movie that's from?
If you can come on, man, Pebley Hills cop, this
is I think it's too, is it too? This is
not my locker. This is the first one. This is

(01:10:04):
not my locker. It's the first. Is that motherfucking acces
of Polly in here? That guy was so good that
actor play get it chewed off to be the man
you see, I ain't got no ass left. You still
got a little bit as a little bit. Don't fuck
with me, ACXL, that great actor so was the captain

(01:10:26):
of the Beverly Hills. When he's like, yeah, bok a mill.
But is this the man who? Oh that guy right?
We we we And my sister used to laugh so
hard at him, going it is this the man who
wrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club. And then he
walks out, and then he walks out and Eddie Murphy

(01:10:47):
picks up on. It is just the man who wrecked
Is this the man who disabled one of our patrol
cars by sticking a banana? And the tailor but disabled
disabled one of our patrol cars with banana? That guy,

(01:11:10):
that guy was amazing. I bet no one has ever
pointed out that both captains in Beverly Hill's coup are
masterfully played, well played, well play guys. You didn't, did you? Five, six, seven,
eighth before? You can't? Did it before you? Sarah? Do
you want to try it? You can do it on
the way out, Sarah, you can. You got that, you
got the extro. So let's explore this. This is the

(01:11:32):
beginning of JD and Elliott rekindling their friendship, trying. But
I mean, I don't understand what the hell j I
didn't understand what the hell JD's doing. He's like, he
just broke this woman's heart, and I mean he's I mean,
I'm just watching these backs, Sarah, I'm so infuriated by
my character. Sometimes it's like he just he just broke

(01:11:52):
up with her and broke her heart and broke her
up with Sean for no reason. And now he's like, hey,
it'd be really great if we could like hang out,
you know, like his friends like outside coffee, and she's
like so nice to him, like, well, I need a
little more time, like she should be like fuck you agreed,
although she is like fuck you for a lot of it.
But then they do have I thought, I don't know,
I thought that coffee, Like that coffee scene was kind

(01:12:15):
of sweet. I know, but didn't you feel that it
was a little soon, like knowing what JD has done
to this poor woman. Yes, yeah, I don't know how
she can ever forgive. I don't know how she could
ever forgive you. The thing is, I mean she has
to because you guys work in the same place, so eventually,
you guys are gonna have to be and you work,
you guys seem to have the same shifts all the time,

(01:12:35):
so you're gonna have to be. I wish they'd explained
a little bit more. And I get, I know the
truth that fucking people do this all the time and
and it's and it's real. But I wish they'd explain
a little more, like what what JD was so afraid of,
because he's clearly crazy about her. He's afraid of commitment
or something whatever. I just feel like it's never really exposed, like,

(01:12:56):
why is he playing such mind games with her? It's
not he's not sinister because we obviously does truly love
her at the end the end, because we're trying to
go nine seasons, dude, that's why. Just because seas do
we can't remember? Do we do? Do? We find out later?
And I think Donald's right that the production reason is

(01:13:17):
because people are so into will there, won't they get
them together? Break them up? Get them together, break them up?
But I don't remember, And just watching it, I'm like,
why is this guy's your fucking asshole people? And it's
not like that in real life too. The will there,
won't they get them together? Break them up? That's only
for movies. Men. Well, I don't know. There's a lot
of people listening. I'm sure who who've gotten back together,

(01:13:38):
broken up, gotten back together, broken up with the same person. Yeah,
and that relationship still didn't work. You're saying that in
the end. If you're doing that bullshit, you can't really work. Ultimately,
there's no way getting back together, breaking up, getting back together,
breaking up, getting back together, breaking up works out in
the end, there's no way. I can't His parents were
married three times, right, it's really actually yeah, Matthew McConaughey's parents. Yeah,

(01:14:05):
and then his father died while he was having sex
with his mom. Yeah, that's impressive. I did not know
this story, Joel. With the imagine you mentioned, you get
married and then it doesn't work out, you get divorced,
and then you go, I am not I regret it.
Let's get married again? No no, no, no, okay, no,
we got divorced again? All right? You know what I miss? You?

(01:14:27):
Should we get married again? Why? Why not just date?
I just don't see that happening, Like I think. I
think even when you get back together with someone and
who you've been with a long time, like let's say
it was years since you had dated, and then you
meet each other again and you date again, I think
the minute that I don't think people change that much

(01:14:48):
to where you know, the things that annoyed you back
then are going to pop up eventually and you're gonna
be like, this is the same ship that it was
ten years ago. But I'm a romantic. Don't you believe
that that you can meet someone down the line that
you had a thing with and you can be like,
all of a sudden it's new context and you've both
experienced a lot of life, and you went and you

(01:15:09):
go eureka, oh my god, When Harry met Sally is
a movie that shit does not happen in real life. Man,
People don't have people aren't that busy telling you right? Oh,
I don't think people are that busy, dude. I don't
think people have that much going on in their life
that all of a sudden four years five years makes

(01:15:29):
such a big difference when it comes to relationships. I
don't especially if the person and if the person annoyed
you five years ago, most likely they're going to annoy
you to five years later. Well, listen, if you're someone
that like got back together with there like high school
or college sweetheart after so many years, and maybe you
both got married other people, and that you came when

(01:15:50):
you contact you, well, because I'd like to have you
on well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold up. You dated in the path. This
is what it has to be. You dated in the path,
you broke up because it was a broke the relationship sucked,
and then ten years later, however, you've got married and
then later on you got back together because you both

(01:16:12):
have changed so much. I am. I am eager to
talk to you. We want to hear and it has
to have worked out, and it has to have worked out.
Do you have to still be together? It can't be
all we dated for like a year and then it
shit didn't work or we've been dating for a year
now and the ship and it's going okay. You have
to you have to have did it broken up and
then been a success again for at least what how

(01:16:34):
how long should we say, guys? Tears? Two years? Two years?
And the sex has to be better than it ever was,
and y'all better be fucking that's right, y'all better be
And we want to hear about it. Want to hear
about that. We want to hear you. We're gonna have
you on the fuck on the show, right, We're gonna,
We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna we're gonna start only fans,

(01:16:55):
fake doctors, real friends, only fans. Are we allowed you
well to have a couple copulate on the show live?
Is that my heart? I mean I think it it'll
be the realest only fans ever because we'll actually have
only fans, a fake doctor's real friends, doing sexual exciting.
Do you want to come back when the couple bangs
on the show, and you're welcome to join us those

(01:17:17):
podcasts has companies just changed a lot since last We're
trying to tone back. We're trying to we're trying to
trim back the sexual talk of tiny bit. But in
this context, why do people write in? Do people comment? No,
nobody nobody's really ill complain. People don't complain about the
R rated stuff that much joking faces hold up, Joel.

(01:17:41):
They don't know. They don't complain about that. I think
they love it. I get come. I got a woman
who berated me for talking about how I was starving
myself and and drinking smoothies to lose weight. She said
that I should be more responsible for because children have
eating disorders. And I completely respect that, But I also

(01:18:01):
feel like I should be able to say, like, I
don't follow me. I don't have the healthiest diet in
the world. I'm just sharing what I do. But I mean,
by all means, I respect that that young people, people
of all ages have. I got. I got. I got
two letters. This one was polite and one was not

(01:18:23):
so polite. One was polite, like, hey, listen, guys. I
know that you're very busy and you guys have your
own lives and stuff like that, but a lot of
us really look forward to when the show comes out.
So if you guys would not take breaks in between shows,
that would be great. Like if you could just if

(01:18:45):
you always did Tuesdays and Thursdays, that'd be great. Right,
and then and then and then he goes, and this
was this Thursday. And remember the past episode dated late?
It posted late. And so then an hour later I
get another one. Oh never mind, it's I see that
you posted late. Right, that's the first one. The second

(01:19:06):
one is like, that's really fucking rude. Man, what the fuck? Man?
Don't you know how much I fucking need this shit?
Fuck y'all for this? And then an hour later I apologize,
I see you posted late? Is that? Why? Is that
why you texted us like early in the morning, like
the show didn't post. Yeah, that's exactly why. But that's
so cute how much it means to people and how

(01:19:28):
much they're counting on it. People are very into the show,
and we're very grateful about it. But man, so I'm
always surprised too, Sarah, Like people are we have the
most incredible fans and people really really love this for
some reason. I'm very very very very surprised and very grateful.
We have a fan caller, speaking of which we're gonna

(01:19:50):
gonna break, Sarah, would you like to toss to break?
I would love to. What you're gonna say. What you're
gonna say in Canadian is we're gonna take a quick
break and be right back with a guest. Put on
your tucs and turn off your garbators because we're gonna
take a quick break and we'll be right back with
our guest. Edward all Right, who we got Joel? Jamie Fullerton, Jamie, Jamie,

(01:20:28):
Jamie Fullerton. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Thanks him. I always wanted
to do that. Thank you, Jamie. Welcome to the program.
You have a special treat today because the Sarah Chalk,
everyone's favorite Canadian, is on the program. Well I am
blessed him. Thank you. Yes, sir. Not everybody who comes
on the show gets a Sarah Chalk Zoom personal meeting,
but you were getting it, I know, because y'all are

(01:20:51):
treating me good like that. Joy, Are you gonna watch?
Are you gonna watch Sarah's new show tomorrow, which premiers
on Netflix. What is the show's name, Sarah go, It's
called Lane, Firefly Lane. I will make it a point then, yeah,
please do. It's with Katherine Heigel and Sarah Chalk. They're
both scannily clad, and yeah, everyone's gonna love it. Donald

(01:21:14):
and I will both be sitting way too close to
the TV. Rewind pause, rewind pause, a lot of There
will be a lot of that. Yes, yes, welcome to
you have a Southern accent. Dallas, Texas, Dallas in the House.
One of my favorite cities, Dallas, Dallas in the House.
My wife spends a lot of time in Dallas. She's

(01:21:34):
from the Texas area. We love that area. You know
what I love? I love Okay, so I love the
text mex One of my favorite places in Dallas is
Meet Casinos. Yes, we just we just went there for
my birthday last week. Nice, congratulations. I love What is it?
What is it? What is the drink called the where
it's like a slushy and it's got the what's it

(01:21:55):
called what's it called? No, not the margarita, but it's like,
you know, it's like it's like the ranges. Julia, No, No,
it's it's a it's a car is. Hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. I'm not gonna get her. I'm
just gonna ask her. Oh my god, oh my god.
Donald has a real doctor's fake fake fake doctor's real

(01:22:18):
friends when I want to learn the name of the podcast, Sarah.
But yes, Sarah, do you want one of those? Will
you wear it around? Are you kidding me? Right now?
I want one? I want to I want a zach
and DoD ones you if you send me a picture
of you in the fake doctors real friends Onesie mombo taxi?
Did you have a mambo taxi? I did not because

(01:22:39):
we were going to my son's first communion, so I
thought i'd been you didn't want to be hammered at
ventilations well, even though I'm not Catholic, But no, you
probably had the mombo taxi before. I think I had
a one time many years. What's in a mambo taxi?
I don't know, but it's like it's it really is
like it's like a delicious tangy shirt Heberty type of

(01:23:01):
sugar alcoholic and it gets you so drunk, like well,
it's a sangria and a margarita. Mixed together. So good,
You're not too bad? Hangover all that Sugar Hurting List
had a mambo taxi. Oh my god. All right, dude,
welcome to the program, Jamie. Do you have a question

(01:23:23):
for any of us? Yeah? In fact, and a couple
of podcasts ago, you mentioned how much you were into cinematography. Yes, sir,
so my question for the group is what movie has
the best cinematography? How could you possibly ask that question?
Gordon state? Yes, Sarah, good answer. The best photograph movie

(01:23:43):
of all time? Thank you. Although that film was photographed
by Larry Sure, who I like to think I discovered
because then he went on to become famous. Now he's
very famous. He's had a lot of big movies, but
the Joker has made him. And I'll chernomine. Oh I
didn't know that. Yeah, who wants to go first? Donald?

(01:24:06):
Do you have a feel? I'm sure it's gonna be
a Star Wars movie if a favorite sematography film. Yes,
The Empire Strikes Back is filmed actually very well. If
you want to look at any of the Star Wars movies,
I think that's the most innovative out of all of them.
From that moment on it, I'm not gonna say it
was the same thing over again, but they just figured
out a way to. I mean before that, everything was

(01:24:29):
really slow, and then the Empire Strikes Back happens and
everything is ramped up and it's really fast and the
action is fast paced, and so I'm gonna go Empire
strikes Backe part. So it's one of the first tracking
shots of something that isn't real, Like they developed that shot.
Just the Tanton running in the snow in the beginning

(01:24:51):
is something that's never been done before. It had never
been done before, and they had to figure it out
at ILM. Just putting it out there, all right, Sarah,
do you have a favorite movie in terms of cinematography.
I mean, it's been the years since I've watched it.
Definitely deserves a rewatch. But I remember at the time
being obviously so Mind buln By Eternal Sunshine of the
Spotless Mind. Yeah, that's a great one. What a beautiful

(01:25:14):
movie that is. We didn't say that about Empire Strikes Back,
And I'm very disappointed. Well, I just I really need
to be honest. I zoned out. I was like, I'm
gonna let him do a solid two minutes on sorrow,
so should face. The first thing that popped into my
head was the movie Manhattan. It's black and white, it's

(01:25:35):
a it's a Woody Allen movie. I know people have
very passionate feelings about Woody Allen and his films now,
but that doesn't change the fact that it is a
beautifully filmed movie. That's That's like the first thing that
popped into my head. Similar thing with like Bradford Young,
who's just like this incredible cinematographer for you people who

(01:25:57):
are like really into the popular movies, he did so
a little bit. Also, what's a director of photography for Selma?
But my cinematographer, David Charry, his favorite movie is Mother
of George and the way he just shoots like skin,
which seems silly and maybe weird, but it's just so beautiful.
Everyone is luminescent in the whole movie that has just
like gorgeous glow and it's it's really great. I love

(01:26:18):
Bradfordy Young's work, Okay, Daniel Joel, I'm writing that down
Mother of George because I have not. Yeah, definitely check
it out. Really powerful movie if I get If I
get the chance, I would also say Goodfellas. That's yeah,
it would be great if you It would be funny
if you would. If I get the chance, I'd also
like to say Return of the Jedi. You thought it

(01:26:42):
would funny? I would like to give you a second
take on that joke. Okay, you're ready, Yeah, god take
two go. If I get the chance, I'd like to
also say Return of the Jedi. The way they captured
that you walk for just there was a just beautiful
backlight on the ewalks. Fur ahead, channel your turn the

(01:27:07):
one that comes to mind recently, Blade Runner twenty forty nine.
Shout out, Roger Deakins. You like that? Yeah, I loved it?
Yea not a lot of really, well, I wasn't. Did
you like the movie? The movie was fine, but the
experience of watching the movie was unmatched. It's just gorgeous
and somebody, Yeah, by the way, you just made me
think of another one that I don't know who shot it?
Will you look up for me, Joel? But mad Max

(01:27:27):
fury Road, Oh so good that the fact that that
movie is not only beautifully photographed, if it weren't for
what even even even independent of the way they're filming it.
But there's no green screen and they literally are all
flying through the endless desert And did you know that
while you're making that face channel, You're right, there's a

(01:27:48):
lot of practical but there's also a ship on the
green screen. I'm sure there's a little green screen, but dude,
for terms of movies that have that amount of action,
I've watched behind the scenes featurettes on totally. You could
feel that heat when that's ship comes out. You feel
that heat. Man, a million examples, But it's always interesting
to know what you're brain vomits up. First, for me,
it became I went Manhattan, oh and downs Good Fellows

(01:28:10):
for some reason that made me think of now, it's
probably you down. It's probably when you said Blade Runner
because it made me think of a remake or something.
But anyway, those are our answers. There's a zillion answers.
I think it's important if you're a film lover to
start to get to know cinematographers because they are such

(01:28:32):
an enormous part of the film that you love. I mean,
directors in varying degrees are are are either super involved
in the cinematography or not at all, and so it
really is creating the images of the movie you love
so much is really a partnership between the director and
the cinematographer, and so it's it's take note of of

(01:28:54):
who they are because their their names are important to
John Seal is the DP who shot on that. Max. Hey, Jamie,
let me ask you a question. What's yours? Well, Zach
kind of stole my thunder there with Fury Road. That's
not only was it great, real well shot, of course,
but it's also like my second favorite movie. So that
that movie did. It was just such a that's move,

(01:29:14):
such an adrenaline rush. I watch it. I watch it
every year just for just because it's so good. All Right,
what's your next question, Jamie Fullerton? Well, I guess this
is a real quick one. Will Ken Jenkins been coming
be coming back to Scrubs, to y'all's podcast because the
way his podcast episode ended, Oh, that was my favorite,

(01:29:36):
the way he ended it, because and if you if,
if the people out there haven't seen it, Donald's praise,
Donald's giving him praise just like he's such a great actor.
He does this, he does that, and Donald and I
called him the MVP of the show. That's right. I
was like, Ken, you are the MVP. Of the show.
I mean Donald gave him a very nice thing for
a couple and then and then Ken with this with

(01:29:57):
this gravelly voice, says phase On. One of the reasons
I agreed to come on this podcast was to hear
beautiful bullshit like that. Zach was in the background, just
shut it off, we're done, and he was. I was like,
you can't beat that. We should have him back? Should
we have him back? Joel? Will you do me a favor?

(01:30:18):
Do do everyone do Jamie Fullerton and all the listeners
a favor? Find out the most Ken heavy episode, and
let's ask him is Sarah, do you want to come
back when we have Kin on? Yes? All right, I
would love it. Oh, I miss Ken. Ken his son
was very helpful in orchestrating getting Kin on, and I'm

(01:30:40):
sure help us again because Ken is a barrel of laughs.
Maybe Ken could also helped me with the technical All right, Jamie,
it's time for everyone in Dallas's favorite segment, it's time
too fixy And we also have the beautiful sar Chalk
here to help you all the way from Vancouver or

(01:31:02):
Van Groovy. Don't they say Van Groovy, Sarah? Van people do? Yeah,
I've heard it called van groovy. Sarah has new color hair. Yah, Sarah,
what color is that? Oh it's called quarantine cheek. Oh
so that's your natural Is that your natural color? This
has been a year and four months. You haven't died

(01:31:23):
it in a year? In four months. I like it.
I haven't also beautiful, I have not died it in
a year four months. I also left it a boot. Uh.
I think it was almost a year, but I hadn't
cut it, and I was just like so annoyed with
it and done. And my friend was like, if you
put it in a ponytail on top of your head

(01:31:44):
and you just cut the end of the ponytail, it
kind of makes layers naturally. I did it. I did it,
and it does not make layers naturally. I didn't have
any else. Professional six was that you have no gray. Oh,
it's like zoom. That's the zoom. I'm sure there's I'm

(01:32:05):
sure there's some in there if I got close enough.
I'm sad to say that my beard is like all
great and you can't. I thought that was your white
as skin. I thought that was your white ass skin.
That's not laughing. You're saying that my skin is as
white as gray hair. I don't even have any beard

(01:32:27):
on him. Tick head, he's fucking tick All right, let's
focus on I know Sarah, he smokes so much pot
today he can barely focus. It's Friday, do it, man?
He does it on a Munday morning a taxi. Jamie,

(01:32:48):
you probably don't have legal weed down there yet, right, No,
I don't think so, not yet. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's
gonna take the southest mentioned longer. But Donald really takes
advantage of the recreational legal weed here in California. Go
for it, right, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I am trying to stop. Well it's not going well,

(01:33:10):
it's not I'm failing, all right, Jamie. How can we
how can we fix your life? Okay? Now I'm glad
Sarah's here too, because I have because as a fellow parent,
I have a question. Did y'all find having raising when
it or having an eight year old to be very difficult?

(01:33:32):
M whenever he gets about eight years old? Is it?
Is it very always? It's always difficult. I'm just saying
it seems to be getting yeah, a little more difficult. Yeah,
there's started. He's very my son seven. He's very rebellious
now and very he's starting to u discover his personality
and the things that makes him who he is. And uh,

(01:33:58):
he's very funny. He's very uh immature and very loud.
And when I say immature, I don't mean immature like uh,
like he's not keeping up. He's immature. Like his jokes,
albeit they are a little bit grown for his age,

(01:34:21):
are a little immature. Like you know, what he finds
funny is potty jokes and stuff like that. We find yeah, yeah,
I know, I know, but nothing like a seven year
old telling a poop jokes. One of his jokes. He'll
be like, knock knock. So okay. So look, we were

(01:34:42):
watching Splash on Disney Plus the other night, and I
remember my wife was at the beginning it says this
film has been modified because I remember when I was
a kid, there's a little bit of booby nipple slippage
and splash. Oh I remember Daryl Hannah triggering some things
inside me. Right, And so we're watching the movie and
they've now covered all of that. So I'm like, great,
we don't have to worry about it. But then the Swedes.

(01:35:05):
The Swedes come to view the Mermaid and I don't
know if you guys remembering splash. When the Swedish scientists come,
Eugene Levy, Tom Hanks, and John Candy pose as these scientists.
So Eugene Levy returns as the scientists, and then John

(01:35:27):
Candy and Tom Hanks pose as the Swedes, but they
don't speak a word of of of Swedish, right of
the Swedish language, and the the guy the guard at
the gate is the guard at the door is like,
you know, guys, I gotta be honest with you before
you go. And I took Swedish lessons in college and

(01:35:50):
so I am actually kind of fluent. I'd love to
practice on you guys. And so he says something and
they look at each other and they're like sure, yeah, yeah,
sure yeah, And then they try to walk by and
he's like, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up, and
then he says something like what are in Swedish? He
says in Sweden? He says, what are two guys like

(01:36:12):
you doing in New York this time of year? And
John Candy goes in Swedish, hey, babe, you know I
have a twelve inch penis, And then they all start laughing.
My son can read now he's seven, So now everything

(01:36:32):
every joke he tells is knock knock, Hey babe, Hey babe,
Hey babe. Who hey babe. You know I have a
twelve inch penis. That's problematic. So Jamie, all you gott
is watch Splash with your kids. They're always gonna be

(01:36:56):
They're always gonna be that way, dude. They're always going
to be difficult, is my point. You're never ever gonna
be comfortable in this situation as your dad. Your best job,
your best thing you can ever do, the best thing
you can do is try to raise a good person.
And they're going to annoy the shit out of you.
But you got a persevere You're the adult. You're in
charge that by you. Sorry, you got any child advice? Child? Real? Well, okay,

(01:37:18):
so Jamie, tell me what is it specifically that's happening
right now. Well, it's just a lot of times he uh,
we need him to do something and he just starts
to try to make jokes. He tries to just blow
it off. I'll give you an example. Yesterday, his mom
wanted him to put away some clothes, you know, just
as something simple, and he was playing on his switch.
So I told him, hey, and she said it twice.

(01:37:39):
He didn't do it. I said, hey, hit pause on it,
and you know, get these clothes put away. He says,
there's no pause button. I'm like, wait, you say, I
know how this thing works. You hit when you hit
this button and it pauses. Yeah, but daddy, it doesn't
say pause. What's it matter? Just smart kids? Smart kid, kid,
you can't be mad at that. You can't trying it.

(01:38:00):
I'm guessing at that age they're trying exactly exactly. It's like, Sarah,
go ahead, Sarah, You've got Canadian's best here ahead. I
think you know It's it's at every age there's just
like another another challenge, and it just you're always one
step behind, right because you know, I have a four

(01:38:21):
year old and an eleven year old, and obviously like
at every age, it's like, oh, I have never parented
that age before and dealt with these challenges and keep
in mind like you're not just dealing with an eight
year old. You're dealing with an eight year old who's
in quarantine in a you know, completely unprecedented pandemic. So
the things that are coming up, I mean, I feel
like you know, uh, certainly in our household, it's that

(01:38:44):
you know, that balance of like you're trying to uh
set limits and also be compassionate for what they're going
through because it's certainly we did not have to go
through anything like this, and they're under so many challenges
to wrap their brains around what's happening and trying not
to absorb our stress over it. But what came to
light for me in this pandemic was, like I thought

(01:39:05):
I was like doing all of the things that I
thought were important in terms of making my kids contribute
in the house and doing things like you're talking about,
like can you fold this laundry? Can you do that?
But life is so busy and it wasn't until it
all of a sudden settled that I was like, oh shit,
we're actually not doing nearly as much as I thought
we were of that. So we made that a huge
priority at the being in the pandemic. Who got chore

(01:39:26):
charts and if you don't like you know, there's there's
laundry and vacuum and you know, dishes and whatever, And
if you don't do your chore, then you have to
swap out someone else can pick your chore the next
time and make you do the bad chore, which take
the compost. It's like a reality show. I like that.
It's like a reality And yeah, we just sort of
had ship get real, like, you know we I think

(01:39:48):
I thought I was saying no more than I was,
and I realized I have to do that more, which
is not always been my strong right. How do you
feel about, say, that's a good question. How do you
feel about saying no? Like I have a I don't
I don't mind saying no, but I have a problem
saying no, you know what I mean? Like I have
an issue with being like, you can't do that. I

(01:40:09):
you know, it's interesting. I really thought I was great.
I thought I was good at it. I thought I
actually did that until I realized that I didn't. And
so that's been a huge thing. Is like more boundaries
more no, I think, you know, obviously as they get
bigger and bigger. Actually that's not true when they're a
little too. Structure is so key and so important and
feeling the you know, the walls and the boundaries because

(01:40:30):
they're always looking for them and if you don't put
them there, then they're gonna just test, test, test, Okay,
well what if I can never find the pause button
on my switch? And yeah, yeah, you got you gotta

(01:40:51):
you gotta take charge, man, Like put the game away.
That's what we're learning. What you know. We put the
game away for a bit, and because we were realizing
that he was doing things for the game, like everything
he was doing was just so he could play the game,
and it was like, uh, we're gonna take the game
completely away. So now everything you're doing is because you're

(01:41:12):
doing it. And then every now and then we'll let
him play and it's so much more rewarding. And then
I don't have a hard time being like, get off
the game, because he knows. If he says, hold one second,
can I get five minutes? Yeah, he's never gonna play
that shit again. It's always a negotiations. There's never like
it's always like, but how about okay, ten more minutes? Kay,
five more minutes. I say, I'll give you five more minutes,

(01:41:34):
but then you can never play again. Okay, I'm done.
Good idea excellent? All right, Well Jamie, you're welcome. Thanks, guys,
you're welcome. You're welcome. You're well so welcome. You can
stay on because you're you're delightful and we love Texas
and I think we're done. Guys, we did the show.
I want to just say one last thing. A Looma

(01:41:54):
was fire in this episode. Yeah five, you're out out
right and we we hear you fans, and and you
said it a lot and I see it. And Joel
is going to be on it. We want to book
Bob Plindennen. We want to book Johnny Castle, and we
want to book right Alma, right sorry, and we want

(01:42:16):
to book Kennigan. Mh. Maybe we do all three of those,
uh favorite secondary characters on the same episode. That could
be fun. That would be a lot of fun. Actually.
I also want to shout out to Judy when she
said you don't have that cookie. We're getting a divorce right, Yeah?

(01:42:36):
And I like I like it when when Kelso says
to the guy who's given all the money regarding his
son who had the light bulb up his ass, he goes,
Lyle might be ready for that rough sex talk you
had with your other boys. I just love the name
name is Lyle. This is a funny oh. And then

(01:42:58):
and then Zach jumping around with the movers on the
bubble Rap Yeah, I was gonna say this. You look
like you were lifting weights back then came back and
you came back into season four and shape you had
getting some triceps there. Yeah, I'm trying to get back there.
I was there, I was. I had some nice definition
with you. See when I put that that whatever that
thing is the movers where that supports around your waist,

(01:43:21):
I had that on. Look good, I'd hit it. All right.
We love you everybody listening. Thank you for for tuning in. Sarah.
I don't know what to say. The amount of love
that Donald and I have for you is just too much.
I'm really excited for your new show. Yes, I'm plug

(01:43:42):
your time for everybody. It comes on tomorrow Wednesday. Guys, Donald,
you don't remember the title name to you? Yeah, I do.
What is it called? Uh, it's called Scrubs. We rot
show kids were try and do like a charades for
Donald and acted up kids, not even once? All right again, Sarah,
your it's Firefly Lane, Firefly Lane. Pa. You guys know

(01:44:07):
what's gonna happen. You're gonna do the same thing you
do every night. You're gonna be scrolling through Netflix, scrolling
through all the other services. Going no, no, no, and
you're gonna think of my voice going firefly lane. No,
I'm gonna think of Sarah's voice going firefly lane. It's
way better, right, fly lane. Well, I'm gonna think of
Zach's voice actually now because it was a little Sarah

(01:44:28):
Sarah self selling in a seductive voice for the listen. Okay, sorry,
don't there's ain't only fans say it in French, sir,
it ain't only fans yet Netflix. I will watch it, Sarah.
When you were do they ever ask you to dub

(01:44:48):
yourself in French? Because they should because you can do it.
They they haven't and I have offered, So I don't
know if I should be offended. They don't want to
ge check. They don't want to check. I need to.
I need to find some way to make sense of
my life that I went to school in French all
day from the age of five to eighteen, and to

(01:45:10):
German school after school. So I was like, if you want,
I'll do the dubbing in French and German and then
they didn't call. What's the most you've had to use
your German or your French? Have you had to be
like other than like vacationing to places where they speak
said languages. What it's like, the most you've ever had
to use it? Had it come in handy once. I

(01:45:31):
feel like I have to thank Bill Lawrence for that,
because I think the most I've had to use this
on scrubs, you know, Bill, Bill would write it into
the show and and I would have to what about
when you do? That was one of my God, that
was one of my That was one of my favorite
skits that we did. Uh skits that we did when
we were standing in front of the International Press junket

(01:45:55):
and Zach steps up and says, Sarah, you know we're
because we're international, we brought our own translator and he
brought you up. And so Zach says some very nice
things about the show and when we'll be coming on,
and he goes, now, Sarah, and then you said, and
then you said it in French, and then everybody applauds,
and then Zach goes, now German and then everybody laughs.

(01:46:19):
And then you did it in German and everybody applauds.
And then me, being the dumb ass that I am,
I grabbed the microphone and said, and now any bonnics
for shizzle nizzle. I forgot about that, all right. No

(01:46:40):
Sarah's supposed to do it, Daniel, No, Daniel, no Sarah.
Go ahead about we made a n sories. Gather around

(01:47:01):
you here, aub, gather around you here. Abscrst me while
you're with mm hmmm

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