420: My Boss's Free Hair Cut

On this week's episode, Carla struggles to return to her marriage with Turk, and Kelso accepts a challenge from Cox. Also HOOCH makes his first appearance. In the real world, it's May the 4th and we're contemplating going to Disney World!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my god, look, how let's go look it really
looks great. Dude, you lost forty pounds in your head.
I wish I lost. Do you notice how I mean?
You're you. You don't because you look in the mirror
every day. But to those of us who don't see
you every week, you lost a lot of weight in

(00:21):
your face. I lost a lot of weight in my body.
It looks like two I dropped fifteen pounds. Uh, just changing,
not necessarily changing. I changed how I ate, Yes, but
I was losing weight before that, strictly from quitting the
weed and the booze. Yeah. Well, I'm finding that for

(00:42):
those of you curious, if you want to expedite your
your your your fitness, um, giving up animals and alcohol
is definitely a a expedites things. Well yeah, well, giving
up the weed, it's really really did the trick, you
know what I mean? Not only that freaking we are

(01:06):
THHC is stored in your fat cells, and so it
takes a long time to get out of your body,
and when your body is detoxing from it. A lot
of people think, oh, I could smoke weed. You smoke
weed like me and Snoop Dog, and then try to quit.
You're gonna go. You're gonna have some withdrawl. Yeah, And
I had with drawls like Night's Sweats and stuff like that.

(01:28):
And I'm gonna tell you something right now. Night Sweat
to kind of help with the losing of the weight,
but we don't endorse that as a means of trying
to lose weight. I think alcohols giving up alcohol, not
just the empty calories, but also what happens. You get
buzzed and you're like, oh fuck it, let's order cheeseburgers,
you know, right right? Well, yeah, that that helped too.
How are you? I miss you. I'm glad that I

(01:50):
see you back in your closet. I'm back in the closet.
It's good to see you. Guys. Hey, I want to
say something, not to toot my own horn, but Daniel
please insert a tooting horn. No, he's here. The film
that I made with Christopher Walkin is currently number four
on iTunes. Amazing congratulation. That's awesome. That's called Percy Verse
Goliath and um please watch it. If you're listening and

(02:13):
you can hear my voice, I would love for you
to check it out. I have a I have a
I have a supporting part of relatively small part. I
play his lawyer. It's a true story about a farmer
who took on Monsanto in Canada, and it is the
ultimate David and Goliath story. This man had the most
insane courage. And um, Christopher Walkin is Christopher Walkin for
God's sakes, and Christina Ricci's in it. And you know,

(02:35):
we made this movie for ten dollars and it has
no marketing budget. And I just thought, Oh, this, no
one's ever going to see this. And then I looked today.
I looked this morning. He was number four on iTunes.
That's amazing, dude, that is absolutely awesome. Gunderus applause, Dan, Yeah,
I got this one, danel Eric I have the first
time I'm to give myself of thunders. Applause. Yes, Donald,

(02:58):
I have your key turners, so when we say turn
your key, we can do all of that. And apparently
it's set up so that it can actually like Daniel,
you'll have to be the one to do it, but
it's set up to where you could plug something into
it and it actually functions as a mechanism. So that's awesome.

(03:20):
That is that fellow who made those coming on the show.
I believe he's our guest today. Oh, we can ask
him how to do it? Yeah? What else is going on?
I watched a really great movie. I gotta say something, Ready,
go for it. You know who's almost underrated actors in Hollywood?
Donald Fazon? I agree, I agree, I agree. I'm talking

(03:43):
about he needs more work. I'm telling you what I'm
talking about. Yes, if you're listening and you need an
actor called Donald, who's the most underrated actor? No, I'm
not the most, but a very underrated, amazing actress who
I watched in a film that was dry up jaw
good last night is Molly Shannon. Now you might know

(04:05):
Molly Shannon as genius comedian from SNL and from all
the movies she's been in, but recently she's been doing
some dramatic work and holy shit, you have to see
this movie called Other People. I'm I'm I'm I'm giving
it ten out of ten stars. It was incredible. And
I mean, my brother, why, my brother's in town and
he goes, I can't believe she didn't get nominated for this,
And I had the same thought, Um, she is so

(04:28):
fucking talented, that woman. I mean, we knew I knew
her to be a comedic genius, but she brings the
drama chops too. I feel like the Oscars this year
was a little weird. I just to put it out there,
you know. I thought Chadwick Boseman was a shoe in
to win so today. That's why they put it last.
That was so weird. I don't know, just weird. I don't.

(04:51):
I don't. I don't get it. I don't. I don't
know what happened. I do have to say, I do
have to say that that Anthony Hopkins performance in The
Father is one of the most amazing performances of every
similar series. Sir, well it is, sir Anthony hopp Did
you see it? Did you guys see it? I did
not see it. I was sure. I was sure Chadwick
was gonna win, like like everyone, including the producers of
the show, even to my friends that day. I was like,

(05:13):
Chadwick's gonna win for obvious reasons and because he's an
extraordinary actor, and people are so heartbroken by what happened.
But I said to myself, but and it's a close race,
because that Anthony Hoppikin's performance was holy shit. I can't
believe it was a masterclass in acting. And then I
was genuinely surprised like everybody when he won. But do

(05:34):
see the movie because the movie absolutely don't. Don't if
you're gonna, if you're gonna complain about it, like I am,
I have to watch every movie before I can say,
like I thought, Chadwick was a shoe wind to win
because of his body of work. You know what he's
meant to the entertainment industry since he since he's come through. Yeah,

(05:54):
and you know, and he passed away, and I was
hoping that, you know, like other actors who have passed
away in the past, UH would have there. He that's
a perfect example, would get me. You know what. It
might not be the best performance of his career, but
we're not going to get an opportunity to see anymore.

(06:16):
So let's give him. Let's give him. I think so
many people thought that Tom. I mean, they literally restructured
the show so that it would end with this beautiful moment.
I'm sure his his widow, um speaking as she has
done so eloquently before. Um. So it was shocking to everybody. Yeah,
But that being said, let's talk about the television show Scrub,

(06:37):
shall we about show we made about nurses? Said, he's
a story. Yeada around here, YadA around here. That day,

(07:02):
I had my brother and my friend Preston in town
and I said, Hey, I got to watch the show
for the podcast. Do you want to watch with me?
And um They had lots of jazz cabbage and I UM.
I was like a little bit nervous because I was like, Oh,
what if it's a one that's not that funny. They
were fucking hysterically laughing at this episode. I was not smoking,

(07:22):
but hysterically laughing in this episode. It's a really funny one.
It has some great moments in it. I mean, I mean,
let's I mean, one of the funniest moments in Scrub's
history is you naked in the fetal position on the ground.
I even think it's funny. When I'm on the ground,
you could see me breaking as we're saying. As I'm saying,
you are yeah, I'm smiling. I'm smiling. I have a

(07:43):
smile on my face. Your penis was well hidden. You
must have because your penis isn't one you can just
tuck under. You really have to sort of strap it
down like like like like a leg holster. You have
a leg holster. You have my cheat sheet for where
you are? This is a guess. No, that's not it.

(08:08):
You honor me there it is. No. So, did you
have sort of a well I think in the firearm
industry they call a leg holster to contain your shaft. No,
I I wear compression shorts, though I see to keep
it in. No, but you're naked in this particular shot.
We're talking. No, no, no, I have one compression shorts
and I have one box. Oh I zoned out. I

(08:29):
just pictured you naked. You were just looking for huh. Well,
I don't want it. But it's nice to observe a
grothy shaft. Its natural habitat you anyway, I'll stop there. Hey, um,
so wait, Carlin, I forgot the Carlin took really break

(08:53):
up and like could be on the verge of ending
their relationship. I forgot all of this, to be honest
with you, And when Shay was talking about it, I
was like, I don't remember that. And then the scene
pops up where they're sitting by the grave at the
end of the show, and you know, spoiler alert, they
don't get back together at the end of this episode

(09:13):
either man, like, they're still kind of fucked up. I
really didn't remember that that that obviously it was wise
as a showrunner to create drama and so the audience
is concerned. But I didn't remember it at all that
you guys are literally like living in separate houses and
talking about not getting back together. Has there ever been
a show where the main characters are on the show

(09:33):
or the loved the characters who are in love with
each other get divorced. Oh, I'm sure, like they threatened
it on Blackish, but it didn't happen. Like, is there
a show where it starts off where everything's, you know, awesome,
and then four seasons in they're like, let's get divorced.

(09:53):
I don't know, Joel, are you looking that up? Oh yeah,
I think Um and Willing. Great Grace gets divorced. Yeah,
but Grace isn't married to Will. That's you know what
I mean? Grace is married? Yeah, you know what I mean?
Like they I don't think it happens. I don't think
it's ever happened. I don't know. But William of Van
Duser Lawrence clearly wanted to create some season four drama.

(10:15):
But oh, we're going so fast. This is Hey, you'll
love this. It's four twenty. This is episode four twenty. Right,
we're going so fast. Yeah, I mean even now, even
though we slowed down to one a week, it feels
like this is flying by. We really got to get
our almost halfway there. Yeah, we gotta get our post
scrubs plans in order. Um, we do need to get

(10:36):
that in order. How's your water drinking coming? I see
you sipping. Yeah, I'm supposed to. Now. I moved on
to a gallon a day. Um you were You were
not at a gallon a day? No, I was at
This thing that I drink out of is two gallons,
and um, that's two gallons right there. Sorry I misspoke.
This thing right here is two leaders. Um. So um,

(10:57):
I have I have this scene where I'm where I'm shirtless,
and I'd like to look my best, right, because if
you're going to broadcast yourself to Earth, you want to
look your best. Hold On one second, man, you've been
drinking only two leaders a day. I went straight full
gallon a day from the gate, and I was pissing
like a race. The problem is that you pissing becomes

(11:18):
sort of a very large part of your day, right,
Like I have to I gotta plan. Yeah, you gotta
when I'm drinking, you gotta plan. When you gotta drive somewhere,
you gotta plan. Like, good thing, I'm not going to
the movie theater because you couldn't go to the movie theater.
You're not watching a movie. You're not watching the movie.
You're spending most of your time in the bathroom looking
at you know, I'm not going to be doing a
gallon a day when I'm not gearing up to me.

(11:40):
But that's so healthy for you are not well. Two
leaders is one thing? A gallon is like, is I
think I think I could shift one step back a gallon? Yeah,
I feel great, So for what it's worth, it feel great.
But maybe my bladder will like expand or that's what
I'm thinking. Like, the thing is you have to spread
it out with the keep chugging or whatever the message is,
because when you do it that way, you pee once

(12:02):
and then you pee again later when you drink, Like
I've made the mistake of being like, oh man, I
didn't make it to the end, and then drinking like
a half a gallon of water and then going to
bed and then getting up at one. I find if
I put a little lemon in it, um, it makes
it way more appealing because lemon water is delicious, Like,
who doesn't like that? But just plain water is Uh,

(12:24):
I've gotten used to it. I've gotten used to plain water. Really. Yeah, Now, Joel,
we had talked about at every time I post about
this water bottle that with the inspirational things on it,
fans are always in my Instagram like where the hell
do you get that? And then of course I thought
we should make since Donald and I both use this
a fake doctor's real friends, one that can have the
times on it, and like you are deservant and eagle

(12:46):
Eagle will be the last one you made an eagle.
That's what I'm talking about right right that we're working
on it. We are trying to figure out the best
way to do it, but I think it's a great idea. Well,
keep them keep the world hydrated. That's yeah, one bottle
at a time. That's If there's one thing everybody listening
has always heard from doctors or healthy people is that

(13:07):
you gotta drink a lot of water. I've never done it.
I've been so bad at it my whole life, and um, this.
This bottle at least helps you because you're staring at
it and you're like, come on, I don't want to fail.
It's three pm. I'm not at the three pm line.
Come on making competitive? Did you laugh at? You know, well,
how would you feel if your husband was on the
phone talking to some other woman? I pretty feel pretty bad, yeah,

(13:32):
but mostly because I have a husband. Did you laugh at?
I laughed a lot of stuff. Now, what about when
you go don't mention the carnival? And I'm like, funny
because it reminds me of Carla. Remove the NIVE and
switch the L and the A and then you see
j D like like like fuck with the letters on

(13:52):
the screen. That was so funny. But then we still
went to the carnival. I know, I just laughed at
remove the NIV like Turke had already. Turke had already
done the breakdown of the word to figure out how
to turn Carnival into Carlo. You know, I knew Elliott
was a nervous poor but I didn't know she was
that much of a nervously. I don't like this either.

(14:15):
I do not want to talk to anyone. I've mentioned
this before. I don't like talking. No, if I'm in
a public stall and someone else's pooing, I can't pooh? Oh?
Can you can? You? Can you sit down in a
public bathroom? Finished? Let me finish with with with what
are the three quarters of an inch of metal between
you and and the other person's Like we had this conversation, dude,

(14:41):
all right, well some people haven't heard every episode. Can
you do that I can't do? Now? Listen to me, man,
I'm the man that we could be online at the
movie theater to see you go home to pooh? I
forgot Yeah, I will go home and pooh. And it
all stems from when I was doing this commercial and
this dude's dad was in the bathroom and was going,
oh god, why when someone screamed the corn? Oh god,

(15:12):
have you ever screamed why while having a bomb movement?
That's not good? Oh no? Why? No? Yeah? Listening and
it and listen, I have and a curly or a
letter jay as long as it's a dude, I haven't.
I was so dehydrated that it was like that thing
was stuck at the exit. Okay, you can stop there, Joe,

(15:37):
but wait, I want to say one more thing. So
what I do if I have to do the public bathroom,
is I first and it's and it's multiple stalls. I
have to do the duck to see if there's other feet.
If there's you get close to the floor. You get
close to the floor like that. Huh. I don't lie down.
I bend over see if there's other feet. If there's
anyone else, I'm out. I gotta wait. Okay. So if
you've got in the bathroom and if you got to
pool real bad, that's a wrap. You're just gonna just

(15:58):
shit yourself. What do you do? I find another bathroom
in that building? Or I um, if you at the
movie theater, what are you gonna do. I've never pooted
a movie theater, Okay, I'm talking about like you know,
you haven't pooded at a restaurant. I don't think I've
pooded a restaurant. Mostly it's on these examples. I mean,

(16:19):
like I'm let's say I'm working, I'm editing a show
and I'm in some big post production facility and here
I Warner Brothers, or you're at Yea or like you know,
you know, when we're on movies, you have a you
have a trailer, you at least have a trailer with
your own with your own toilet. But I don't know
any any of I don't think I've ever pooted a
at a restaurant. Although on my birthday I had a birthday.

(16:40):
My do you remember this? Were you there? What fortyths birthday?
I no, I wasn't at your four. I was at
your forty first nobody was at your forty at the birthday. Yeah,
they had it. This is what happened. You came, you
got sick. So I arranged to have twenty twenty five
people at a dinner at a very fancy restaurant cat
in New York, in New York, and I, um, I

(17:03):
don't know if you ever gotten food poisoning or listener
or YouTube, but what all of a sudden I was
as I was, I was got like all dressed up
people had flown in. It was going to be a
big It's my fortieth birthday. Was a big deal. And
as I'm sitting out the name cards on the table,
I started to feel that rumble, you know that rumble
where you're like, oh no, And I didn't have any boot,
I didn't have any booze in me or anything. It

(17:24):
was just something. I'm sitting out the fucking name cards
around the table, like making sure the seating arrangement is right.
You probably had Debars's Rhythm of the Night in your head.
To the beat to the Rhythm of the night. Yeah,
it's my birthday night. I had popping myself and then
I was like and then I'm like, oh no, So

(17:45):
then I run. I start to feel I'm in a puke.
I guess haven't even arrived yet. And this is a
fancy restaurant in New York and meatpacking District called Catch
and and I go. Now, I run into the bathroom.
In the bathroom because it's a party place, hasn't attendant.
That's to make sure that people don't I guess, do
drugs or have sex or whatever it's meant to the

(18:07):
attendant in a bathroom, I assume is meant people think, oh,
it's a fancy place. The guy's gonna give me a
mint and hand me paper towels. But and I gotta
give him a dollar. Yeah. I think he's really there
to make sure no one does drugs or fucks against
the sink orf or if he's smart about it, he's
my fucking drug deal And he's like, I got that shit,
go in the stall. Okay, maybe cut that out. No,

(18:28):
you can't leave that. Everyone likes to hear how Donald
would hustle as a bathroom attendant if I was a
bathroom anyway. Anyway, So the stall has also been adjusted
at this restaurant so that it doesn't go anywhere near
the floor again, for the same reasons. They don't want
people congregating in there together. There's only one stall, it's
probably the bottom. The door is probably three feet off

(18:51):
the ground. I don't know what the fucking stall door
is blocking, but I have to puke. So I'm down
on my knees and I'm trying to fucking get this
puke out because I'm like in my mind, I'm like,
if I just puke, get this out, no harm, no foul.
Go back to my fortieth birthday party. And then the
guy guy comes into the bathroom behind me because it's
you know, a multiple thing, and he says the bathroom lieutendant,

(19:15):
pointing at me. I can hear him see him pointing
at my legs because everyone can see me. It's it's
a high stall door. And he goes really loudly so
I can hear go, wow already, meaning like it's only
like eight thirty. Why are you puking already? Rude? And
now mind you, I have nothing in my body and
so I'm not like not like drunk or anything. So

(19:37):
I'm like, I can't get it up. Can't get up.
I say. I tip the guy like twenty bucks. I'm like,
I'm so sorry, but I'm probably gonna be back to puke. Um.
I don't feel well. And he's like okay, and so,
oh yeah, do you want to buy some blow? No,
I'm just kiddy. So I go back to the table,
all the guests arriving, I'm smiling and everyone I'm like,
oh my god, this is really bad. This is really bad.

(19:58):
This is really bad. And everyone's sitting down and I
run out the door. I'm like, fuck that bathroom. I'm
just gonna go puke on the street. So I run
down to the street and there's a dumpster like across
the street. I start puking like like fire hose, Like
stand by me, fire hose pukes straight up projectile varment. Yeah,
And of course people are people are passing on the
street being like oh my god, this guy again, same attitude,

(20:20):
like little early buddy, you know that kind of thing.
Everyone thinks I'm hammering, but I'm stone cold, sober food poisoning,
and every time I puke. I won't tell you the
whole story, but there's like fifteen more times. I keep thinking,
this will be the time where it's over and I can.
I've gotten it out of my did the dealer slap
and push it away? Yeah, the dealer clap and push

(20:41):
away from the tape. Yeah, now I've already paid for
this dinner. Everyone's here. Now. The good news is when
I went back everyone, I could see everyone like you
would you. They think I'm They think I'm out around
socializing with other people. No one's thinking about me. They're
all getting drunk, they're all eating sushi, they're all talking
to each other. And finally I go to my mom.
Was like it was one of those moments where even
you're forty, you need your mom and I'm like, Mom,

(21:02):
what the fuck? I probably didn't say fuck to my mom. Mom,
what the heck am I supposed to do? Like? What
is somebody supposed to do in this here? I'm puking
at dumpsters outside and she goes, you have to go
home and I was like, you're right, I'm gonna French exit.
Don't tell anyone, or if they ask, you can tell
me at the end. So I grabbed my coat and
I left, and everyone had a great time at my
birthday and I paid the bill. Wow, that's very nice

(21:27):
of you to pay that bill, buddy. Oh you kidding me?
Come on, they all came to my big birthday party,
and I was incapacitud um. The next year was the
next year, Well, I rationalized the next year being like,
this is gonna be my fortieth birthday. That was a
that's that's a mulligan. Is that what you say? Yeah, yes,
I'm gonna take a mulligan and uh and we're gonna

(21:48):
go to Mexico and go all out. And then we did.
And that's infamously got woozy. That that was when I
got brother josh Is in town and we were we
were laughing about you getting woozy. Yeah, nothing makes him
laugh harder than you going I was woozy. Um. Yeah,
you know, I'm glad it didn't. I'm glad it didn't

(22:10):
come out both ends because that would have been really embarrassing. Dude. Yeah,
So it was horrible. It was horrible. I mean, if
you've ever had food, I'm assuming it was food poisoning
from So it wasn't trust me, it wasn't from Catch,
which is an incredible restaurant. It was so it happened
during because I didn't even have a bite of cat.
It was it happened in some of the restaurant or something.
I wonder. I wonder how Elliott would deal with this

(22:31):
problem then, you know what I mean, like that is
a that's one of those moments where if she can't pooh,
if she's a nervous poor, if you're a nervous poor,
I guess you'd have to project she would just throw
up on everybody. Well, Ellie's extreme. Elliott decides tells Carla
that if she cannot handle the you know, talking on

(22:51):
the toy rules, she's gonna have to move out. Yeah.
Not only that, if she brings it up that she
talked on the toy, that she was on the toilet
talking to her, she won't poo for another two weeks.
I wonder if Sarah really has this conundrum. I'm sure
Sarah's a nervous Do you think Sarah's a nervous poor?

(23:11):
I believe Sarah's a nervous poor. I don't think like I.
I feel like this is based on her character. My
brother said the same thing. My brother was laughing, is
this must be really be her? Yeah, I feel like
Sarah's segment that would be great. Um, can we do that? Sarah? Sure?
Are you really a nervous poor? Do you your character
in this episode really really cannot talk even through the

(23:35):
door if someone's asking them a question. She can't even
talk about it. Like after days after at work, she
can't talk about it. Sarah, the audience want to know
all of the world. They want to know, do you
have this problem with your anus? So? Am I a
nervous poor? I think the answer is going to surprise
you because it doesn't really go with my personality. And

(23:55):
I think you're going to bet that I am a
nervous poor. But I'm actually not a nervous poor. And
I think that that comes from when I was a kid,
we did a lot of camping, like not just car camping,
but you know, hiking overnight in the woods camping. So
I have like a very high comfort level with it
also with talking about it, discussing it. Um, I would
say I'm more of a grateful poor you know, just
grateful that it's uh, everything's working out. Thank you Sarah,

(24:17):
Thank you Sarah for talking about your bomb movement. We
should go to break, Buddy's go to break. We'll be
right back and we're back and we're back. What we
laughed out loud when we were in the bouncy castle.
My tummy is starting to rumble, speaking of nervous pooing. Yeah,

(24:42):
so I take you to the carnival. We still go.
I can't and it's just a bounty house. Yeah, we
really really must have ran out of money by episode
twenty of season four, when the Carnival was represented by
a bouncy castle. Bill must that money elsewhere. We should
talk about Can Jenkins and the Telco storyline and how

(25:02):
great it was and how great he was. Yeah, and um,
it's always so refreshing when Bill gives Ken more levels
to play than just the grumpy boss, because he's such
a good actor Ken that he just delivers. And you know,
this was one of those episodes where he really got
to do a lot with not only taking on a patient,

(25:24):
but also his sort of old man camaraderie with Johnny c.
You know, talking about how medicine used to be and
how he was feeling how doctors and I imagine this
came from real doctors saying, we feel disrespected in some
ways now the advent of phones and the internet, everyone
thinks they know more than us. And we used to
we used to have a level of respect in society

(25:45):
that we don't get from everybody these days anymore. Doctors
also used to it used to be a job that
was it was a it was like if you were
a doctor, you were like, you know, you were a
leader in the community. You know, you were there were
so many things, and well think, yeah, there were so
many great things about being a doctor, and I think
you're still a leader in the community. And I do,

(26:06):
I personally think you're still respected. But I'm sure they
would say, we don't make anywhere the money we used
to make, and we have to go to school for
fucking eight years. You know. I would hope that people
would look to doctors and and uh to be leaders
in the community. I don't know that I would, you know,
if my next door neighbor could be a doctor, I

(26:26):
don't you know, I'm not going to handle but don't
you when you when you come across someone who's a
medical doctor, don't you. I have the unsugger amount of
respect for them. I have the utmost respect for them.
But a lot of it has to do with the
fact that I played a doctor on television, you know
what I mean. A lot of it has to do
with knowing what they go through and how stressful the

(26:47):
job is. You know. But in our society, if someone's
like if someone you meet someone and they're dating someone new,
and you know, what does he do? What does he
she do? They go, oh, she's a doctor. You're like, oh,
you know, that's still a natural reaction, right, And then
you find out that they ain't him making no money
and you find out there you find out they're a chiropractor,
and you're like, ooh, well you find out there. I'm
just kidding. You find out they are dermatologists. That was

(27:09):
so funny. That was very funny to me. I didn't
even hit it, Daniel, Sure you didn't. It's got a
mind of its own. That was very funny with the UH,
with the UH with the dermatologists running down the hall
mod get out of my way, get out, And then
his diagnosis at the end was like, oh yeah, your
skin looks bad. Yeah, yeah, that was really funny. And

(27:33):
and then and then and then uh Cox says, you
look like a purse. Yeah, because the guy was so
sunburnt and fucked up his face with melanoma. That was
that was very very Funum. Now, let's talk about the
most important thing that happens in this episode of all time,
the introduction of who. Well, it's not the introduction, but
it's the it's the us finding out. This is the

(27:53):
first time you say, which is crazy? Wait? I have
a question which was in another episode, which is in
an episode with Tom Hanks's brother that already happened. No,
did it not happen yet? No? Okay, so yeah, I
guess this is the introduce This is the introduction of Hooch.
I know that to be a fact because I double
check scrubs Wiki. Okay, well I'm gonna say this, then

(28:14):
go ahead. Turk and j D egged hooch on. Turke
and JD we crazy. No, I just made him crazy, No, sir,
you can't make someone crazy like that. We we didn't
know what we were messing with. We messed with the
bull and we got the horns. Many episodes later, we

(28:36):
late us assumed that he was sort of laughing along
with us. He was not fucking coming. It's okay, j
It's okay, JD. It's okay, JD. It's okay. It happens
all the time. You could have said he here instead
of hooch. Though, the best part about that is, I want,
if you, I want the audience listening to go back
and watch this moment where Phil Lewis, the fucking hilarious

(28:57):
Phil Lewis, the comic. Did you see what he does
on the on the counter. He does a little little
double tap. He's so livid. Did you catch that? You Well,
he's so livid. He's so livid, and he's holding all
his fucking rage in and he comes when when when
we said let's have some hooch or whatever we say,
and he comes in. It's in the it's in the lobby,
and he's through the through the little window to the

(29:18):
hallway and he goes. It just feels like, I don't
know where he does it, but he puts a little
in the pause. He just feels like he could have
said something else. It's just a little there's something about it.
I find so funny. It's his rage is going through
his whole body, and all he can do to hold
it in is just a little counter tap, right, like

(29:39):
it like it alleviates the rage just a little bit.
Just yeah, yeah, he's tapping it down. It just lets
a little bit of the rage come out through his fingers.
But dude, Hooch is fucking keeping that rage in. And
we think, oh, it's fun to mess with Hooch, but

(30:00):
we don't know what's going to come out of it. Well,
you say it's yourself after you get Elliott to do it,
just say, but I only I'm still saying it in
a joking way, dude, I'm still like crazy. That is
the long game, Dude, that is the long game. Bill
and the writers were playing the long game on this
joke because the payoff doesn't come from many, many, many

(30:21):
many episodes. Yeah, well you know what happens is is
that And this is a lesson to you actors out there.
You could come onto a show. I mean, Phil was
ann actor, but you could come onto a show with
two sentences and if you do something that's funny or great,
people will start, the writers start to write for you.
I mean, let's just have him back, Let's keep going
and Phil obviously wasn't an unknown actor, but he was

(30:43):
so fucking funny. Is this character that Bill just kept
writing for him, kept putting him on. And then obviously,
as you all know, he became a fan favorite. And
and you know, which is crazy is something that gets
said to me all the times a month. I'm sure.
I'm sure when Phil meet people, I'm sure he's he's
heard that before. Oh yeah, and and no running in

(31:04):
my lobby apparently from from Zack and Cody, Sweet Life
of Zack and Cody. I guess he was the hotel manager, Joel.
He was, Yeah, he was. Yeah, I think he was
a manager. If memory serious, it's been a minute, but yeah,
he was definitely, Sam, Are you young enough to watch
that show? Joel? I was like just above the age,

(31:25):
but I was still watching a lot of Disney cartoons,
so occasionally I would, you know, catch a clip or
a moment that's like when Save by the Bell came out.
I was a little too old to be watching Say
by the Bell yourself watching some kids show. I don't
think there's a show meant for young people that I
that I watched into adulthood. Really well, I don't know.

(31:49):
I can't think of one. I mean American Idol. I
guess I watched sometimes that's that's not perfect. That's meant
for everybody, that's for everybody. The janitors are drunk. Dude, Holy,
I don't know if he's. Yeah, he is. There are
a lot of jokes about him being a covert alcoholic. Wow,
he's really drunk in this episode. Yeah, he didn't have
much to do. He didn't even don't think he had

(32:10):
much of even a laugh. He just had to be
like drunk at work. Right. Well, he got he had
to do voiceover. Yeah, that was weird too. So what
happened was I tap him and he starts voice over,
and I turned to my brother because I was reminding him.
I go, oh, you know once a season I passed
the voiceover around. This must be the janitor's episode, And
then it wasn't. He just did all of a sudden,
Bill sort of broke his own rules and gave the

(32:32):
janitor like a few lines of voiceover right that scene
and then the scene later when he's in the hallway
with Kelso. It really bothered me that Kelso can't get
the door open right, and you see clearly that he's
not pushing the handle that would open the door, right,
it's not even trying it. And then he adds a
line like how did she lodge this door closed? And
then we cut inside. There's clearly nothing blocking the door, right,

(32:56):
and then and then he'd uses the screwdriver door. Well,
then he uses the screwdriver, right, but I didn't even
think the hinges are on the on the on that
side of the door, right. So then later on the
door has obviously been repaired, and and he busts it
open like he's the Hulk again without a screw driver. Right.
He just wanted to make an entrance. That was very fun.
And then his speech at the end was, you know,

(33:16):
to this day, it's one of the best lines. I'm
gonna I don't want to butcher it. What does he say? Anything?
Nothing worth having comes easy, right, which is the lesson
of the show and very very useful advice to everybody
on everything. Anything you want, it's not it's not going
to come easy. I didn't know Google was around back then. Yeah,

(33:39):
I remember, ask Jeeves, You remember that, yeah, asked Jeeves.
She has like a she has an early smartphone, because
you know, if you look at the show, all of
us are really using flip phones still. She has sort
of like a palm pilot. The character the Kelsel's dealing one,
she has sort of a palm pilot. Yeah, I found Yeah,

(34:00):
I found that very very I just didn't know that
we had Google like that back then. I remember Yahoo,
I remember, you know, I didn't know Google was I
don't know, Joel, what un in nineteen ninety eight, September
four when you did the iPhone come out? Two thousand
and seven seven, So we're nowhere near the iPhone coming

(34:24):
out yet. What were people using at this time? Well,
we had flip phones and then and then and then
the woman in this episode clearly has some Internet phone
because she's she's using her little stylists. It must have
been a pompilot, I'm guessing. But Wi Fi was around
like that or she's on you know what I mean,
like how much she I don't know how did pompilot work, Dane?
They had, thank you very much. They had They could

(34:46):
have received internet through like you know, either Wi Fi
or but I'm pretty sure at this point everything was
hardwired into the wall, right, like you had to eat
their net. And we've had Wi Fi for a long time.
We've had five for a long time. Oh, I just
didn't get hip to it until after scrubs. I guess, well,
you probably didn't have DSL. You maybe had a modem. Yeah,

(35:07):
that's what you know. And I don't know. I don't
know either, to be honest, which I just found this
very interesting. I was like, wow, my my, my remembrance
of technology is way off. Um who says a nurse
Robert says she Google? Was it? She googled your ass? Yeah?

(35:27):
Was that Nurse Robberts? You said that? Yeah? And then
he goes, I'm not Nurse Roberts. I don't I'm not
into your street lingo. Never heard of Google. No, that's
neither did I. At this point, I'm sure of it.
What about when Sarah when Judy speaking Spanish, and Sarah
cracks up and she goes, you know what I'm saying?

(35:49):
She goes, no, I just know when to laugh in
any language. We look good doing that cocktails thing. We
looked good. My brother was like, you, what did you
train for that? We did rehearse. I know we rehearsed,
but why did we look so good? I don't know.
We looked good? Yeah we did, Yeah, we did. We

(36:12):
looked like we were having a blast. That looked like
a fun party to Yeah. I wanted to get that party,
so did I. At that moment in time, I was like, wow,
look at all the ladies and look at JD. We
were liking cocktail like that Tom Cruise movie. Yeah. I
even did the spin with the bottle opener. Yeah, that
was fun. And then and then we were like, stay
here and drink for Carla. So then I said, Turk

(36:37):
has a hangoh even though I had a hangover that
would slay a walrus. Oh man, um, Yeah, so you're
so hungover that I think you've missed your lunch meeting
with Carla, but you've actually slept through it on perfect.
Turns out, he just didn't want to go. Yeah, why

(36:57):
because he was having so much fun with j D.
And he felt like it you know it all. You
know when the fight gets when the fight gets real,
are you somebody who's gonna dig in and punch back
or are you gonna run? You know? And it seems
like at this moment in time, Turk's a runner. Yeah.

(37:21):
Well I think he has some sort of drunken epiphany
because he decides like, no, I'm not going to be
the one that's like begging to get back anymore. I
gotta get out of the fetal position. If you don't
want to be in this, then you don't want to
be in this. But it's not even being in the
fetal position. He doesn't even want to try anymore. He's like,
I'm not even gonna try. But then he does show
up at the grave, but that's after, that's after Kelso's speech. Yeah,

(37:47):
what's going on? You're right, Kelso? Kelso's advising the young
lady about getting a gastrol bypass. And then that's funny
when you when he means to be talking to her,
and then you settle up right next to her and
like what you forgot? What you say? Would you say
something like go on right? Pretty much? And then he says,
nothing worth having comes easy, whether it be taking on

(38:10):
your weight, or taking on a relationship problem, or taking
on your career goals, whatever it is. Um, if it's
worth having, it's not gonna happen without work. That's right.
It's all about the journey. It's all about the journey.
Did you notice, Um, oh that's what you say. I
wrote it down. You go, what if it's too hard. Yeah,

(38:32):
what if it is too hard? Did you notice a
little John Inwood directed this episode, who was our cinematographer
for eight seasons of Scrubs, And I don't know if
it was John or Carrie Bennett, our wardrobe designer, but
there's an interesting thing they did with the wardrobe of
you two at the grave. You're in you're in the
exact same colors. I didn't recognize that your outfits aren't matching, obviously,

(38:55):
but you're in the exact you're in the you're in.
Your clothing items are the exact same shade, just like
her shirt is your sweatshirt or something like that, to
signify that you're meant to be together. Well, yeah, that
they're that they're gonna be all right, That they're still
unity in the two of them, whether they know it
or not, they still have ay, they're still one, as

(39:22):
you would. Didn't you think that was a creative choice
to make. Even though they are separated, they are they
are still one in little subtle things. The audience might
not even notice it, but I happen to notice it.
That's awesome. How about Sarah stuck in the grave? That
was hilarious and she was stuck in the grave, and
she was stuck in the grave all night. She's like, well,
it can't get any worse, and then the thunder. Now.

(39:45):
Someone said on scrubs Wiki that they thought that might
be a reference to Young Frankenstein because apparently in Young
Frankenstein there's a joke I'm gonna read it off Scrowski
a possible reference to Young Frankenstein when Doctor Frankenstein and
Igor are digging a grave and Eager says, could be worse,
could be raining before? Yeah. Oh, when we say tokers,

(40:06):
smokers and jokers, that's um er. Yes, I'm a smoke
Steve millermant whoo whoo. Some people call me the Space Cowboy.
Some call me the Gangster of Love. Some people call
me Maurice. You know that song. Yeah, I'm a stoker.

(40:27):
I'm a smoker, poker, I'm a midnight whatever, it's midnight tooker.
I'm a joker, I'm a smoker. I'm a midnight toker
playing my music in the sun right yep. If you
don't know the joker, you gotta listen to it. It's
a it's an old school jam. I was gonna say this,

(40:50):
Uh it was. It's we jumped so far ahead. But
in the beginning when the young lady is delusional because
she's been worked for so long, Yeah, that was funny.
And at the end of it, she has popcorn. Yeah
did you laugh at that? I laughed? How does she
have popcorn? Popcorn? That made me laugh? She's so delusible.

(41:12):
She's like, I'd like two tickets too. I forgot what movie?
Million dollar Baby, million dollars baby. The cafeteria crazy. The
crazy thing about the hospitals is that they they work
these poor people so hard and then they're meant to

(41:34):
be like saving lives. She's like hallucinating. She hasn't slept
in so long. She's at the cafeteria buying theater tickets,
and then she's got a big tub of popcorn. Popcorn. Um, Joel,
do we have a guest today? We do have a guest. Yes,
they're here, all right. Why don't we take a break

(41:54):
we come back. We have an interesting guest that Donald
knows today, Sean McBee. Isn't that I want to also
mention that next week we have the two directors of
c Spiracy on, so you're gonna want to make sure
that betwixt now and uh next Tuesday, you you watch
the spiracy because then you'll really be able to participate

(42:16):
in the discussion. I'm very excited about that. It's a fancy. Also,
when this show airs, you know, a day it is,
what May the fourth be with you? Oh? Sho? So
should we act like it's May the May the fourth
and say happy May the fourth? So you Donald and Joel?
I mean you could say it, but you know I'm
gonna say it again on May the fourth. Yeah, but

(42:37):
we're not going recording a podcast, I know, but I'm
going to dedicate my Instagram. But what are you gonna
do for May the fourth? Work? Yeah? Work? Yeah? Man,
it's a freak. It's not a national holiday. Shit it
it's just the nerds holiday. Yeah. But I'm saying, what
are you gonna do to celebrate May fourth? And I'm

(42:59):
probably gonna buy a lot of Star Wars ship dude,
like you always doing Made the Fourth? Okay, Joel, what
are your plans? Um? Well, I'm gonna be gearing up
for the new animated series it's coming out. Bad Batch
comes out that day and it's gonna be like an
hour and a half freaking premiere. I can't wait. Yeah,
So I'm gonna just be diving deep into the Clone

(43:21):
Wars stock. I have all of the books. I'll probably
be doing some reading's just love it on Star Wars. Donald,
did you see that Disneyland is reopened at partial capacity?
I thought you'd be excited about that. I am excited
about it. I you know, we're trying to figure that
out now, Um Disneyland, you're gonna go? Are you going
to be one of the people that is an early

(43:42):
adopter of returning to theme parks? Yeah? Man, that's listen.
I don't know. I'm vaccinated, um right, and my wife's vaccinated.
And in California as as a matter of fact, across America,
the CDC says you can walk outside without masks or
on as long now, as long as you're not in

(44:05):
a crowded place, and so if it's crowded, I've definitely
you know, I'm sure they have rules. I think it's
required to wear a masking at all times. That's that's
that's it is. And they're only at thirty percent capacity.
That's foreseeable future. So that's cool. You must be excited
to return now, are there? Star Wars rides that you
haven't been on that might be newly open. I've been

(44:27):
on everything the New Star Wars land yet and I'm
in that in that area where they do that little
show when the people come out and costume and they
engage with the fans. Do you talk to them? Are
you like Stormtrooper? I want to talk to you. That's
the thing. The Stormtroopers come up to you, right and
let the great that the awesome thing about about uh,

(44:53):
what is it the what's the name of the Galaxy's
Edge is that it is interact active and you choose
a side when you get there. It's like you're either
you're either a new Republic or or your first order.
And if your new public, uh, there are people that
interact with you. If your first Order, there are people

(45:15):
that interact with you. Uh. And it's an adventure and
you fly the Millennium Falcon and you go on this
real dope ride that is really like the intertell that's
happening over there, Like it's really good. I'm gonna say this.
The ride itself is like Small World, but the but

(45:38):
the the um it's like the interaction. Yeah, well, it's
like you're sitting in a no, because look, it's it is.
Small World is fucking awesome. Dude, you don't like Small World.
I like it as a kid, like it's like, oh,
we have to come and see Small World. But as
an adult, I skipped Small World. I don't want to,
not at all. I love I get on Small World

(45:59):
every time. Look so, well, you have little kids. If
I had little kids, I would, but I'm not. I
go with adults. I'm not going on Small World. So
it's a it's a you're literally being I don't want
to give it away to the I almost want to
pause this because, like I feel like we're about to
enter a spoiler territory for this. Yeah, I don't want
to give it away. You know that Rides had spoilers.
This is one of those rods one this one has,

(46:22):
you know this one has. It's like you're in a movie,
dude that I haven't been to that one because it
wasn't open when I went. But I went on the
one where you feel like you're flying around and it
really made me nauseous. Did you fly to Millennium Falcon? No, yes,
I'm stars. You're talking star tours. What's the one that's
basically you're watching a movie stars. You're talking start, we

(46:44):
should didn't be done with we should be done with
those kinds of rods, No, because they re they redid
that when Also the Look Star Tours is fire. Also, um,
but you fly to Millennium Falcon, dude, and you literally
fly the Millennium Falcon and everybody has only one pets
to no no, zach no, I was tasked with hitting

(47:06):
buttons that didn't do anything. Yeah, you do if you
can listen, man, if you listen, okay to higher you listen.
If you get the if you I've gotten a couple
of canisters of coaxium, right, and if you get the KAK,
you go into the can'teema and they freaking give you love.

(47:28):
They're like, y'all heard your U I heard your coaxium
run was whatever whatever, And you're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
no doubt, no doubt. Oh my god, dude, it's amazing.
It's amazing. You can build droids, you build lightsabers. On
this video of this, they got a shop where they
got a baby Sarlac in it. Man, there's a baby Sarlac,

(47:50):
a baby Sarlac. I saw the girl who plays ray
walking around and some guy was like trying to like
flirt with her. It was so cringey. It was because
this poor girl, like it's one thing to be in
a storm Troop outfit, but she's, you know, dressed, is
like the beautiful ray less. Guy's like trying to like
talk her up, and she's like, I've got to be
going back to my ship now. Some of the best

(48:15):
motion control characters I've ever seen in my life in
my ride I haven't been on because the one I
was on I did not like. And it looks like
it's a real thing. It looks like the star the
bar is amazing too. The drinks design of the bar
is beautiful. Yes, I mean so I was. I was
lucky enough at one point to be in the Star
Wars camp and then I blew it by, you know,

(48:37):
being me and and rebelling against certain things. But I
was in the Star Wars camp and I got to
go behind the scenes and see all of this stuff
before it was made, and it was one of the
most amazing things I've ever been a part of in
my life. I was one of the first I was
one of the first people to ever fly the Millennium
Falcon I'm gonna put it out there, that's dope. Um.

(49:00):
When you walk into that world and you see the
Lennium falcon, it looks cool. But for me it was
kind of like, but that new ride wasn't open yet. Yes,
what were you gonna say? Now? All I was gonna
say about this is there's a podcast I listened to
called podcast The Ride where they talk about these things,
and a terminology that I learned from that podcast is
called ride system. And a ride system is how you
describe things like the chairs that you sit in. So,

(49:20):
for example, if a ride has like a thing that
you walk along, that is a ride system. If you
think about like Haunted mansion where you sit in those
little chairs, that is an individual ride system. A roller
coaster where you strap yourself in, that is one ride system.
This Star Wars ride is four separate ride systems in
one ride, in one experience. So that is why I've

(49:43):
been trying to spare myself the like the Spoiler experience.
I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't
want to tell you what happens. Don't listen. I was
trying to do that that I now have to tell
you what happened. I got to do it. No, no,
I gotta do it. No, it's too late, you said you.
I want to know I was trying to provide. I

(50:05):
said it was small World. I was talking it down
when I said it was small World, Bunny, I was
trying to not I was not trying to make your
expectations high. You're gonna enjoy this small World at all?
Or is this the same thing over? No, it's a
classic design by one of the most famous imagineers ever.
Leave that alone. Oh man, it's not my favorite ride.

(50:27):
It's it's it's really challenging to you sit there and
with the same song over and over and over again.
But it's but just from a design perspective and perspective,
I think it's important, you know. I think I think
if you skip out on Small World, you're skipping out
on a great experience that has been around forever with
Disneyland or Disney World. I'm just putting it out there,

(50:47):
all right, there you go. Um, we are going to
take a break and we come back. We have a
very interesting guess. We'll be right back and we're bad.
I'm sitting here in a wet bathing suit and I
mean thinking the whole time about taking it off. Don't wow?

(51:08):
Please know no, I mean I wouldn't show my jump
you guys. Let's bring him the guests. Let's let's all
the guests. Should we have the guest opine? If they
think I should take off my wet suit, sure we
can ask Sean. He's gonna tell you to take it
off though, but okay, okay, well, and Sean will decide.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, people of all walks

(51:33):
of life, please welcome Sean mccad Hey, guys, Sean program,
how's everybody doing? How are you doing? Why does it
look like you have a more professional audio recording studio
than we do? And we have a successful podcast. I

(51:55):
have two unsuccessful podcasts that way too much money into. Dude,
your setup looks amazing, Daniel, can you take a screenshot?
You can eat all of that shit he has. We'll
get we'll get it. Get that right over. Oh my god,
what podcasts do you do? Yes? Plug your podcast right
off the bat, Sean, All right, right off the bat.
I've got one called table Reads, where me and two

(52:16):
guys funnier than me read scripts that never got made
and sort of riff on them, and it's it's not like, uh,
aspirational scripts. It's like big budget money grab things like
Josh Whedon's Wonder Woman script. Yeah, we read the scripts
and we we point out what's what's terrible about them?

(52:39):
What about Tim Burton? Did you ever do Tim Burton's Superman?
It's on the list? Can you find How do you
get these scripts? How do you? Oh, there's places all
over the internet, and you know, I work in the
film industry, so sometimes I get a little little side
hook up the Yeah, that is awesome. My brother once

(53:01):
got when when Matrix was first came out. It was
his favorite movie, and someone hooked him up with Matrix dailies.
Wow Wow, which for those you don't know, is is
is the raw footage's just like not edited together. It's
just like Keanu Reeves doing take after take of of
like waking Up. And I remember what I came him
one day and my brother was just sitting there watching

(53:21):
Matrix daily because he loved the movie so much. He
just wanted to he wanted more. I would watch, he
would watch Star wars Dale. He's don't all of the
cut scenes everything, Sean, what's what else? Is going. What else?
What's your other podcast? Oh, I do a podcast about
stargirls called star Girl After show nice and I worked

(53:43):
on that one, so I figured, you know, I'm friends
with most of the cast, so I may as well
use that. You know, who was on Star Girl Zach
a young lady by the name of Amy Smart. Oh
really you might know her listener as a tasty come
a wife. She is her show, She's on the c W.
It's a brillantee show. H. The Justice Society is in it.

(54:07):
So there's you know, I don't, I don't. I don't
know about the second season. But the first season they
reintroduced a lot of really cool characters like our Man
and uh and who was who was the original star?
Who was star was a star Man originally? Is that
who it was? Yeah? John McHale, Joe mccale. Oh wait, yep,

(54:30):
Joe mccale's on this show as well. Yes, yes, and
and uh Luke Wilson's on the show also, he plays
he plays It's a dynamite star Girl, a young actress
named Breck Passenger. Super amazing. They do shoot in Atlanta.
They shouted right across this from the stage where we

(54:50):
shot Powerpuff Sean, I'm assuming that you are Atlanta based, right, Yes?
I am? And and how did you now? Are you
a prop master? No? I'm graphic designer. Okay, so what
do you? What did you? How did you? And Donald?
Me tell everyone the backstory because I only know that
you gave us this incredible present that we want to
talk about, But I don't know how you guys work

(55:10):
together and what came about. That's how we met. Yeah,
but how how did you? How did you? Were you
working on Powerpuff Girls? Yeah, he's working on He's working
on power Let him tell it. Donald's so, yeah, I
was lucky enough to work on power Puff And I
was like the first person on the crew, like down
below everybody that found out that Donald was going to

(55:31):
be on the show, because I was helping put together
the presentation for the network and they're like, hey, you
gotta you gotta add a picture of Donald faz On
to the professor Paige, and I was like, oh what okay?
And so, uh, you know, I I had in COVID.
I'd sort of fallen behind on this podcast, and so

(55:53):
Donald's coming on the show and I'm like, all right,
I gotta caught up on this, and I'm listening one
day on my way to work and I hear Donald
talking about how much he loves a care package, and
I'm like, okay, I'll put together a care package. Oh
my god, and the care package turned out to be one.

(56:15):
So we gotta we gotta get into this because you
said to me that the key and the button are
actually functional. No, wait, before you get you're going too fast.
We need to remind some people where this started. Donald
and I on one of these episodes talked about our
love of the film War Games, Yes and which is
just that I remember to the amazing movie. I haven't

(56:36):
seen it in a very long time, but one of
the things that always stuck with me was the opening
of the film, which is a bit of a prologue
where two men who are the people in the nuclear
silo that are when they get the message from the
President to launch the nuclear rocket missile, both have to
turn their keys and one of them turns it and

(56:58):
the other guys like panicking, like before I kill X
amount of million people, I want to I want to
get someone on the fun's I mean, he's not doing
what you're supposed to do. He's not following the protocol
because he doesn't want to launch the weapon, and the
other guy pulls out his firearm and he says, turn
your key, sir, turn your key, turn your key, sir, yes,
And it's a really powerful opening. You learn later that

(57:21):
it was a drill to see if human beings could
pass the test to launch a weapon that would kill
millions and millions of people, and he they obviously failed,
and they decided to put make it computerized, which is
the beginning of the movie. So on our show when
we jokingly say when we want to like what is
it for thunderous applause? Or what is it for anything?
Where it's like I want you to turn your key,
turn your keys ac right, turn your key, sir, yes,

(57:45):
and so sure mechanism that looks like, Okay, I didn't.
I didn't make them. You're giving me too much credit there.
But I was like, I bet something like that exists
out there, and I did some searching and I found something,
and uh so I got you these big red buttons
that unlocked with a key and put turn your key

(58:08):
on there. I left off the sir because I didn't
want to leave Joel out. Oh God, you're a thoughtful man.
First of all, I love that you're spending money on
Donald with a care package. Is very thoughtful of you, dude.
There was a lightsaber in there. There was also a lightsaber, Sean,
where did you get the lightsaber? Lightsaber that was handed
down from his father which he then gave to Ray

(58:30):
was in the care package. So that was that was
a lightsaber that um I had for a number of years.
And then I got my hands on a real graflex
uh flash tube you can see behind me right there, yea,
and made like a super super legit one for myself.

(58:50):
And so then, uh, I just I had this spare
lightsaber for quite a while and I never found another man.
It's not fash though. I was saving it to give
it to someone special. So why are I mean? You
seem like a very nice human being? Is you? Are you?

(59:11):
Are you? Are you like this to lots of people
in your life? Or just are you a Donald phaz
and mega fan? It's it's not just Donald phase on,
It's it's both of you, guys. Like I've watched Scrubs
so many times. The show's given me so much joy
over the years, um And here's an example. I was
you know, getting ready for yet another rewatch. When I

(59:31):
heard about this podcast launching, and so I started watching
along with you guys. But by the time you got
to episode five, I was finished the whole thing. Wow. Yeah,
I just can't. We can get you the audience so
you can't see. Sean has a beautiful glass case behind him.

(59:53):
It looks like some treasured props from different films and
TV shows? Am I right? Sean? Yeah? Mostly replicas? Okay, Well,
I feel like we willed to get him something donald
for his case. I agree. Man, Well, you know I'm
trying to get back into Lucas Film. If I could
get something from them, I would send it your way. Uh,
if the show gets picked up. If the show gets

(01:00:16):
picked up, you'll have all the swag you need from
that end of things. I'll sign whatever you want me
to sign. I know, we gotta get him something worthy
of his dope class case though. Yeah, I agree. Where
do you look for replicas, Sean? I mean, I'm gonna
knows on the internet in eBay? Right? Is that where
you find stuff? Yeah? I mean I've been parts of
online groups that are just dedicated to this super nerdery

(01:00:37):
um and I make a fair amount of them myself. Um, like,
here is that the is that the sculpture from Batman
the TV show that behind you? Yes? It is? Oh
my god, aren't you impressed on? Like? Does it have
a button when you lift up the head? It does?
Oh my god? Is it Shakespeare? It is? It is

(01:01:00):
pressed out. I got all three of those, I mean
pressed well done. Pulled that out working puppet from of
Tom Servo from Mystery Science Theater three thousand. That is dope.
It's agreement. Yeah, lights up in every lanterning. Oh he
doesn't light up. There's a green lantern lit right, Yeah,
green lantern, green lantern, power battery. Wow. No Joe Jojo

(01:01:23):
helmet that I made designed myself. What's Mojo Jojo from
Power Girls? So u? Mojo Jojo is the bad guy
from Power Okay, no spoilers, guys, no spoilers, But I
better fucking pick up this show. I'm gonna call Berlani
right now. It call him, call him listen. It seems

(01:01:43):
unlikely that it would, up right, Sean, Let's not go
on something that's wooden. Well, Sean is very dialed in,
it seems to me to the to the Greg Berlany
Atlanta Universe. Are you Sean Well? I mean, I've worked
on two BERLANDI shows. Now, do you feel did you
feel a good vibe on this show that it had
a shot? Because I do, And I'm just saying that

(01:02:06):
because I love Donald, but I feel like it was
a good vibe. Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't
think that people really say no to Greg Berlany. And
we have an Academy Award winning screenwriter as our writer
and showrunner. Yeah. Greg Blaney's kind of like the Spielberg
of CW. He's like, you know, no, it's more than
a CW. Man, It's more than a CW. I'm not

(01:02:27):
minimizing it by CW, but he is. He has a
show on every network pretty much, maybe not ABC right now,
but there's he has something somewhere somehow. I wonder it's
if it's his Northwestern education. You know, they say Northwestern
is the Harvard of the Midwest. They do, and I'm
not just the only one who says that. I bet you.

(01:02:49):
Greg Borlany says that himself, I worked one of the
first student films I ever worked on was written by
Greg Berlaney at Northwestern. One of the first movies You
were Ever You Ever starred in was directed and written
by Greg Berlante as well. And we had the same
acting teacher named David Downs. And Um, he came on
the show, didn't he. Yes, And he's had spoken of
him because in the Wizard of Oz episode he's the

(01:03:12):
man that is losing whose son is ill. Right. Yes,
you have a great scene with him. Yes, that was
really awesome too. That that's your six degrees of Greg
Brolanty for you. Well, I mean it's it's not very hard.
He's everywhere. Yea. What do you think his most successful
popular show is on on c W ver Riverdale? Is

(01:03:36):
that his Lash the Flash Flash Slash Flash or Arrow? Um?
He also had like the Green Lanterns coming out. That's
the next one. I think that's on HBO Max. Yeah,
he's got a bunch of shows on HBO Max actually,
from Titans to Doom Patrol to now the Green Lantern Show.

(01:04:03):
Like Greg is I'm sorry, mister Berlante is really think Um, Sean,
did you um, did you always work in film or
or what? How did what's your how did you get
into the business. I'm sure people who like graphic design
and uh, who might want to do what you do?
How do you? How did you do it? So? Uh,

(01:04:24):
I sort of stumbled and fell into it. Um, my
wife had gone to art school in Atlanta and we
lived in Florida. She wanted to move here, and uh,
you know, I've been into replicating props and stuff forever.
And this show Constantine came out on NBC show Yeah,
and uh there was this weird like art deco record

(01:04:48):
on it that played the devil's voice, and I redesigned
the recreated the you know art for it. And then
I actually like had it pressed into a or that
played the sounds and everything, and I put it on
Twitter and I tagged the production designer for the show
and he liked it. We got talking on Twitter. When

(01:05:09):
my wife and I came up for a four day
trip to Atlanta to look at neighborhoods to maybe move to.
He said, we'll stop by the studio. He had just
lost his graphic designer and he hired me on the spot. WHOA,
but you made that happen. I mean that's the lesson
is that you were like proactive. You tagged him on Twitter?

(01:05:30):
You you you you worked for it, didn't just happen
to you. Yeah, and I, you know, it was something
that I loved doing that I just did and I
put it out there in the world, and I whiteboarded
that before I knew what a what white boarding was. Yeah,
well you made it happen man, And and and so
tell people who might not know, like the different tasks

(01:05:51):
that a graphic designer has on a show, because you've
already mentioned things as as varied as making a you know,
just a promotional thing that included Donald's picture, to redesigning
a prop. Like, what are the different things a graphic
designer does on a show. So a graphic designer tends
to do anything that has graphics that actually goes in
front of a camera. So it's not like on screen

(01:06:14):
graphics like like VFX or anything like that. It's signage.
It's if someone has a graphic t shirt on hatches
for the police, police cars, any kind of props, any
prop that needs to be bespoke for the show, and
even plenty not right because if you can't show Coca Cola,

(01:06:36):
you have to make sort of a Coca Cola like
label that isn't too close. You have to know what
you're allowed to do right because you can't go too
close to the actual product exactly. There's a lot of
like knowing what you can get away with through legal
with that stuff with fake products, not making them the
same color scheme is what they're trying to evoke. Newspapers. Yeah,

(01:06:59):
all kinds of stuff. Um, well, you're one of these.
Sounds like you're one of those people who's lucky enough
to be doing something and making a living and something
you genuinely love doing. Oh dude, I've wanted to be
involved in the movie since I saw et in the
theater when I was three. Now sean, Um, we usually

(01:07:25):
do questions, but I think with you do do you do? You? You?
You kind of a VIP guest because you you know,
you gave us this amazing present. Do you want to
have a question? I want to ask question? Why do
you have a question? Do you want us to fix
your life? How can we be of service to you
for giving us this beautiful present? Um, you know, just
just being here and giving me twenty years of scrubs

(01:07:45):
watching is is great. And I have to be honest, Um,
for the fixer life thing, I was having trouble thinking
of any way that you could fix my life because honestly,
my life is just real great. I'm real happy. Oh
my god, you know what I'm gonna hit? Sorry Donald

(01:08:07):
did I did not turn my key, but I will
turn Then we have the prop all right, so we
don't need to wait wait wait, that actually is something
that you can do that would help keep my life fixed. Okay, okay.
So you may be aware that here in Georgia we
have a shit heel of a governor who keeps signing

(01:08:28):
bullshit laws. Yeah. Uh, and what ends up happening is
a bunch of people in Hollywood start saying, well, we
shouldn't film in Georgia anymore, and you know it doesn't
help us. If the film industry leaves Georgia, then you're
just taking a whole bunch of Blue voters out of

(01:08:50):
the state. Right after we just flipped the presidency, we
just put two Democrats in our Senate. You know, we're
on the cusp of like really changing Georgia into a
good place. And the governor doing all this only got
there because he cheated. So how do you so? So

(01:09:11):
I hear what you're saying, but what is the Obviously
there's people I know Will Smith was one of them
who moved his film to Louisiana. What do you say
to people that are are upset with with what he's
trying to do? Um and and and and don't want to.
I understand what you're saying. He's like, don't, don't, don't
take the work away. That's not You're going to affect
people that are probably on your side, and you're gonna

(01:09:32):
put a lot of people out of work. It's not
their fault. But when you're the Will Smiths and of
the world, or people who have actually power to move productions,
what do you say to them? Well, I just say,
look at what Ryan Coogler said and what Jordan Peel said.
They said, you stay and fight, you change it. We
have Stacy Abrams almost certainly running for governor again next year,

(01:09:54):
and she has been pushing U Sign Up initiative for
the last four years. She gotten, she's gonna get nominated
for the Nobel Peace Prize. She's she's been largely credited
with putting Georgia in the Biden column just with her

(01:10:16):
own efforts. And she's gonna keep fighting that fight, and
then she's gonna run for governor and we're gonna get
rid of this guy, and George is gonna stop passing
these stupid laws and everybody can be happy here. But
it can't happen if film just shuts down and takes
everybody that you know came here from LA that's like
minded away. What's I have a question and you might

(01:10:37):
know the answer to or if you don't, danil will,
what's the thinking behind you're not allowed to bring someone
water as they wait online to vote. Oh, it's just
straight evil. Yeah, I mean what is the governor? What's
the governor's logic? The governor's logic is that it's encouraging
people to vote a certain way. Literally, he never gave

(01:11:02):
like a specific reason like they're at least in my
like readings, there's never been like a well we don't
want to like back up the line, or you know,
we don't know what's in that water you're giving Like
didn't even try to bullshit it. They're just like, you
just can't do that. Part of the law. Part of
the law is that the state can determine how many

(01:11:24):
polling places locality has and how much early voting they
have to put them all on an even keel, so
that a county with five thousand people can have the
same amount of voting resources as Fulton County with ten
million people or whatever there are here, And so that

(01:11:46):
creates these giant, super long lines in areas where it's
primarily people of color or other likely Democratic voters, and
they have to be in line for eight hours, and
you can bring them food and water, then they might stay,
They might stay. Really is as simple as that really is,

(01:12:08):
as simple as like, we don't want to encourage them
to stay in line. Yeah, I just think it's crazy.
I'm gonna say this as a politically as possible, because
I really just think it's insane to say that any
human being in this country who can vote has to
wait eight hours to vote. It's just so bizarre that

(01:12:29):
that's an accepted thing. And and I understand how frustrated
you would be in in in Georgia, because you'd be like,
why do certain neighborhoods have no weight and our neighborhood
has a fucking nine hour weight? Doesn't making sense? And
so you would say, we would say all politics aside,

(01:12:50):
let's add more polling places, let's add more drop boxes.
Why is that even a debate? No one should have
to wait that long to vote, because then the people
that want to, the people that have been cheating to
get into office for the longest, can't get into office.
I know. That's so fu sinister. Any politics of that,

(01:13:10):
sinister is that if you do decide to give somebody
water in line, you could go to jail for a year, right,
a full year. Yeah, that does not seem like a
good man. All right, so we're man fix your life
by not taking our productions out of it. I would
I would be so so grateful if you guys could

(01:13:30):
just use your voices and say, you know, stay in
Georgia and fight. Well, Donald did and wherever Ryan Coogler does.
Donald wants to do that as well, because Donald is
going to be in Black Panther one day. Listen, Sean.
I have to admit, when I heard about this, I
had the same reaction. Not that I was about to
make something in Georgia, but I thought to myself, Oh,

(01:13:50):
Hollywood's going to pull out of this state, because that's
it's ridiculous. Um. And then I saw people like Ryan
Coogler and and and others Stacy Abrams saying no, please, look,
we're making such progress, don't abandon us. You know, yeah,
because that's what it is, That's what it turns into. Um,
you know Smith didn't get your message. Donald, Why don't

(01:14:11):
you call Will Smith and tell him to change his
Moneyte that down down, Paul Will Smith? Um, Sean, I mean,
I'm sorry if I made that too political. It's just
it's real important to me, and I actually don't I
don't even think it needs Everyone will interpret it as political,
as a democratic republican thing. But I just find it

(01:14:33):
so baffling when you come at it from an innocent
point of view. If you just put yourself in a
I don't know anything about politics place and go, why
do some neighborhoods have more polling places per capita than others?
Why do you why? Why are you there's an eight
hour wait? Why are you taking more away? It just
doesn't make any logical sense at all. You're right, and
then you go and then you go, wait, wait, wait,
I got an extra something. When people are bringing them

(01:14:56):
water and food, let's put them into that's encouraging them
to stay. Let's make it illegal. Let's make it illegal
to bring them water. That's some crazy twenty twenty one shit,
right there. Um, all right, Well, how do we end
on a happy note? Guys, Donald say something funny? Uh
ass shit ass good night and do do it? Um me, Sean,

(01:15:32):
are you gonna watch um Percy Verse Goliath, my new
film that's number four on iTunes tonight. Yes, absolutely, thank you? Please?
Do you must like Christopher Walking? I love Christopher Walking.
Um it's a very good film. It happens to be
number four on iTunes. Listeners, please check it out. It
was made for eleven cents and uh, it was made

(01:15:54):
for very little money. And the fact that it is
um number four on iTunes with no marketing budget is
cool and I hope that it continues to do well.
I feel like a lot of that has to do
with the people that are in the movie. Well, it's well.
I think everyone loves Christopher Walking. Christina Ricci and I
are are the small supporting parts. But it's all about
Walking and he's just a pleasure to watch. And it's
about of very interesting subjects um on Santo, which we

(01:16:17):
won't even begin to try and talk about here, but
you'll see it in the movie. Um, Joelle, do you
have anything you want to tell the audience? Don't forget
to buy merch We have socks, we have badge polls,
we got shoe hotshit comment. I'm so excited from the
merch story coming. Do you want to plug your podcast
names one more time so everybody knows what the name? Sure,

(01:16:39):
there's table Reads, which you can find at table reads
podcast dot com and stargirl Aftershow, which is at stargirl
Aftershow dot com. And I just have to say real quick,
um too, Joel and Daniel Um. I do those two
podcasts all on my own, like all my own editing.

(01:17:00):
Table Reads, I run like a live radio show with
all kinds of production. And I I to not understate
how much work that you guys must do to make
this another podcasts happen like. I don't think people understand
the work that goes into that I only need to do.

(01:17:23):
I only was able to do star Girl After Show
because of the COVID shutdown. That's how much time I
went into that. If I had to work a job,
that show would suck. Yeah. Well, look, you sincerely, you
honor them, you honor me, you honor me. I kept
my wet bathing suit on it for strong. Thank you.

(01:17:47):
I appreciate you. I'm gonna slide it off the second
we hang up. Oh my god, please do not. I'm
gonna slide it off in a provocative man I'm alone.
I'm going to try and turn myself on by how
slowly I slide it. Oh, I thought you were to
do it when we were on. I was about to
say do not do it. Oh no, I I will.
I wouldn't do it in front of Joel and Danald,
but you might actually like it. UM, thank you for listening.

(01:18:11):
As always, we really really really appreciate you and UM.
And next week we're gonna have the directors of C
Spiracy on. We're gonna do one of our a conversation
with um and uh it's gonna be really interesting. So
check out CE Spiracy this week, and uh check out
Percy Verse Goliath this week. And thank you so much,
Donald Shama. About Shore, we made about a bunch of

(01:18:38):
doctor nurses and stories. So yetta around here, a yata
around here. M