506: My Missed Perception

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi guys. By the way, this is a very This
is a meaningful moment. You ready, drum drum roll, Danel.
This is my last episode of the podcast in Los Angeles. Oh,
I have done other than my trip to England, as
you listeners may recall, I've done ever since Quarantine began,
every single episode in this very room. Wow. And now

(00:23):
I'm East Coast bound. I promise you I will still
bring the magic. I'm excited for you. Donald, how do
you feel about this? I show him gonna miss you.
I know I'm gonna miss you too. Donald and I
went out and saw Black Widow at Man's Chinese Theater.
We were in the theater, yeah, we had some of

(00:45):
us obviously been in a theater. We wore our masks
because we ain't trying to get that del to Ain't
nobody trying to get that deal to that that Delta
for real food? Yeah, that Delta doesn't. And then so
then we saw the movie, which of course was amazing,
and then we were going to go. It was also
the opening nine of the Hotel Cafe, which was where
all our friends play music and a great music venue
if you ever visited Los Angeles and uh so we

(01:08):
decided that we would walk from Man's Chinese to Kuwango
which by which? Which is which is a wrong choice?
No no, no, no, no, no, no no, not in this
heat Listen. I'm from New York City, born and raised
Hell's Kitchen, Hell's Kitchen, Times Square. I'm used to tourists.

(01:30):
I'm used to the element that it brings to that
area that you know. I'm used to it. I'm gonna
say something right now, go ahead. I went into full
bodyguard mode. Was like if Casey was a was a
politician and Donald was like her secret service agent. Dude,

(01:53):
if my wife was chew that night, she like she
she had on the stuff. She was looking good. She
looked like um. But anyway, No, it was a bit
of a sketchy walk. It's funny. I've lived here twenty years.
I've never walked down on Hollywood Boulevard. I've gone to
Listen Boulevard several times, and I know I've gone to

(02:15):
the theaters that are on a Hollywood Boulevard. I've done
the Jimmy Gimmel show that's on Hollywood Boulevard. I have
never walked down Hollywood Boulevard on a Saturday night at
prime summertime. It's intense, it's live, Yes, it is. It
was live. That's the way. That's the way to put it.
It was sincerely reminded me of New York back in

(02:38):
the day when I was a kid and the summertime,
you know, Friday, Saturday night time Square. I was like, Wow,
this shit is not only is it popping right now,
but there's an element of danger in the air. And
I like the smell of it, you know what I mean.
It was like, yeah, it was like it was just
like like there was a guy on so much. There
was a guy on whatever drug he was on, like

(02:59):
splay down on the high walk, so you have to
go around him, right, Yeah, So because he's on his
ride and uh and as we're going around, he hears
us say something. He's like, you don't know what the
fire talking about. He goes shut the fuck up, and
we were like, you don't know what I was And

(03:19):
I was like, Donald, do not kill him. No, I wasn't.
I wasn't gonna that's the dude that you stay away from.
What it was like, you throw a kick at that dude,
he bites you. It was a little like Zombieland yeah,
very much. Anyway, that was a very interesting, very interesting

(03:40):
stroll we had that night. But then, but Donald, you
love the mo more importantly, you love the movie as
a Marvel fan. I did love the movie as a
Marvel fan. I mean it's out everybody, everybody can see it. Joel,
did you like it? I loved It's so funny, like
I do not expect it to be funny at all,
and it's super is. I was worried about going back

(04:01):
in time. You know, sometimes I can get a little sketchy,
but I thought they pulled it off beautifully and added
elements to like feature screenings of different movies. It's good.
It's a good ride. I just you know, it's funny.
I don't watch these movies, as you know, I just
cannot believe how incredible the visual effects Donald's you remember,
I got when they when they got to the visual
effects artists, which which in the crawl I just started.
I started. I got the audience going with the round

(04:22):
of applause. I did, right, it started with I like,
I spread it all through Man's Chinese Theater. Because I
have to say again, as someone who hasn't seen all
of these movies, the I thought The visual effects were unbelievable.
There is not a single thing that looked fake or
green screen, and there's just giant sequences of them falling
from the sky and doing insane shit that obviously is

(04:45):
on green screen, and it looked flawless. It was so
good that Zach got a very special episode of Boy
Meets World slow clap going in the movie theater. That's
how mean it was. I'm talking about when when when
the artist, yeah, yeah, when the visual effects artists came up,
you got a nice special episode. Or tonight on a

(05:07):
very special episode of Boy Meets World, you got one
of the slow claps at the end of the episode,
you got one of those going yea where people were
at the end applauding and cheering for the special effects artists.
They deserved it, they deserved it. It was really really good.
And we got Kevin Figi was at the r screening
and he introduced the movie. That was really cool. That

(05:28):
was cool. It took everything in my power not to
be like, I'm Donald Faison, you're a huge fan. Yeah,
Donald was gonna bum rush him and asked for a role.
It took everything in my power not when I was
joking and he's like and and and then, so sit
back and enjoy Black Widow. Now, if, by the way,
if there's any forty seven year old African American actors

(05:48):
in the audience, please see me at the back. Yeah,
you know if you already said that. Oh, let's get
into it, guys. We got a very very very wacky,
very wacky funny episode. Donald counts six seven eight stories
about show. We made about a bunch of doctor nurses stories.

(06:16):
So get around, yeah around. I feel like I'm on
drugs in this episode. I am so hyped up. I
feel like this whole show was on drugs. I was
laughing and with I was with Bill this weekend and
we were just I was telling him how funny it

(06:37):
is to watch the show, and how the tone of
season five is so wacky. And I was telling you
we were talking about the ostriches and we were just
cracking up at how He's like, he'll come on and
talk about it. He's like, I don't know, I got
a little board, Ella board got a little whacky. I
told you, man, That's what I felt like at the
beginning of the season. I feel like everybody. I don't
feel like everybody was bored, but I feel like it's

(06:57):
not as fresh as new anymore. And now, you know,
after three years in the NBA, you're a veteran, you're
considerative vent And we were this is now five years
on NBC Primetime comedy Thursday nights. Following we were following
I'm not sure if it's friends now or if we're
following Joey, but we're like, we're like, yeah, remember that,

(07:18):
we're like the freaking We're a part of the Thursday
night lineup. We're officially and we're and we're pushing up
on a hundred episodes. Also, yeah, it's the hundreds. The
next one, uh is one? The next one or this one?
It's the next one? My way home? The hundred trivia
for you trivia lovers is is the Wichard of Oz

(07:39):
episode which I directed, which is I think one of
the best episodes, not just because I directed it. Um
And that's next, which I believe is the hundredth Yes,
And so that being said, it's like, that's a lot
of episodes. Man, that's a lot of that's a lot
of you know what I mean. We all strive to
do this as actors, to get on a television show,

(07:59):
if you're if you're a television actor, you want to
get on a show that does one hundred episodes. That
means you worked a lot. I means you made a
lot of money. That means you did a lot of
really good things, Like you feel really proud of the
things you something was working right. So now we've reached
that hump. We're pulling up on that hump. The motivation
has to be from someone, has to come from somewhere else,

(08:19):
because we're not freaking We're not as hungry as we
used to be, for sure at this point. But I
look like I mean, we look like we're having fun.
I mean, I'm sure. All I'm saying is, though, I'm
so if you watch me in this episode, I don't
know what's going on in my I'm I'm on level
ten every single scene. Now. I know part of the
plot is that I'm I'm so happy because I feel

(08:40):
like I'm Cox's pier and I'm trying to out Cox
Cox and be mister confident. But I'm just I think
I'm particularly fucking hyped up and wacky in this episode.
What's Up? I totally agree with you. I think the
whole show is, but I Okay, so let's start from
the beginning. You're on a mini scooter, right, Yes, yes,

(09:00):
Sasha's in the shop. What's Sasha in the shop for?
What is Sasha in the shop for? I forgot what
happened to Sasha, but she's down for the count. Now
this is the time, if you guys recall whatever year
this was, two thousand and two thousand and six, Um,
it's when all these little electric things came out, little

(09:23):
scooters and little go carts and little everything. And we
had them, and we had them all. We had them
everywhere at the hospital and we would like ride them around.
It was so fun. We would lie, we would ride
them around the as we told you, our our our,
our dressing rooms, in the production office. We're all on
the third floor of the hospital. So we'd fly around
the fucking whole third floor of the hospital on them.

(09:45):
And uh and I'm sure that's where Bill got Dadda
to put this tiny little thing in the show. We
were literally like hamsters in the cage man, And that
was our and that was our track. That's a good analogy.
That's a good analogy. That was our that was our
spinning wheel. And and we had no thing to do.
There was so much downtime. Donald played a lot of
Grand Theft, aught on a lot of GTA Miami. That

(10:06):
was what Miami. The Miami one was out finish that. Yeah,
Donald was down. Should get Donald could get lost in
a video game like so many can. I probably should have.
I did play some Hitman, but then I was just like,
I was just like, I was like, like he said,
a hamster on a fucking wheel. So we would just
find wacky shit to do, like like have a scooter

(10:26):
races around in the hospital. Yea, yeah, so that tiny
motorcycle got worked in. I thought that was funny. I
ride it through the bushes with a Classic and then
I'm carrying it through the hospital. That's how small it is, right,
But I don't know, just this is what I don't understand.
Because he has a mini bike. The ladies love him.
He's feeling himself because he thinks but that was fantasy. No,

(10:51):
but he thinks that that ride is a lot hotter
than it is. He thinks it's a turn on. He's
like sitting on the counter. The ladies are all gathered
around him, the nurses, and he's like, yeah, you know,
it's uh you know, I don't know what I say,
but something bragging about the hog. Yeah, I know, but
I'm just saying, like, weren't we just at a point
where jad was lonely and I think he is still lonely.

(11:14):
He's just he could have had any one of those
nurses at that point, of course. Yeah, I don't know
if he could have them. They're just they're just they're
just they're like listening to his tales of wiping out
on his mini scooters. By the way, I like the
shot Victor Nelly directed this of going through the going
through the ceiling and the floor and showing the rat inside.
That was cool. Yeah, this is Victor Nelly. And Kevin

(11:38):
Beagle wrote, um, now let's talk about the Todd. You
can see his shaft bouncing. What when the Todd finds
the janitor in on the in the in the stolen
therapeutic bath on the roofs okay, Todd comes in to
find the janitor has put a no banana hammocks on

(12:00):
the bath, right, and as Todd comes in, you can
see his shaft as he walks sort of bounce against
his banana hammock. And then the sun hits it. And
it sort of glimmers what I went back and watched again.
It bounces, it like an elephant's trunk. It bounces. Oh
my gosh, I'm just telling you. I just couldn't believe

(12:22):
that this was on NBC because it's very, very revealing.
Speaking of very revealing moments, I'm playing a lot of tennis. Now,
what does that have to do with anything? Ahead I've
gotten back into it. No banana hammocks on a tennis court, though, Yeah,
don't rock a banana hammock on the tennis court. You
gotta get into pickleball. I played like twice and I

(12:43):
love it. What does pickleball, dude, I don't understand it.
M It's like small tennis basically, but you play with
the whiffleball and you play with paddles instead of a racket,
and you'd be so amazing at it because it's kind
of like ping pong meets tennis. You can put so
much spin on the ball, and you play doubles because
that's well, you don't have to, but most people play doubles,
and it's kind of like you're standing on the ping

(13:04):
pong table, you know, obviously, but a bigger scale and
it's really fast. It's all about volleying and it's fun.
You'd love it. I play with Bill and he's obviously
really really good gets spending a lot of time together. Huh. Well,
I love him and I'm leaving and I love you,
and that's why I spent time with you, because I'm
trying to get in. I'm trying to get in on
my all my savors. How long are you going to

(13:25):
be gone? For? Um? A long time. I'm gonna be gone.
I'm going in with Atlanta briefly to do a part
in a movie with Berlandi's producing and the actor's Cole Sprouse,
a popular, nice seeming actor. I've never met him before.
I'm going to meet him on Wednesday, and then I'm

(13:48):
going you guys have Phil Lewis in common? Yes, we'll
talk about whoileis UM and then um and then I'm
going to New York to prep um, you know, my film,
and then eventually shoot my film. So I'm gonna be
there until probably December, so the rest of the year, yeah,
pretty much. So I just want you to save her.
I need you to save her. I'm trying to save her.
But you're spending all your time with Bill Lawrence. Well,

(14:10):
don't be jealous. I went to the movies with you.
We had our sketchy walked down together, sat in the dark. Okay,
we sat in the dark and then we walked out here.
You didn't shot. You didn't offer me one sour pitch patch. Kid.
I thought Trona died. You got a six pack? You
got six pack abs right. I didn't want one. I
just wanted to be offered one. Oh, next time, Okay,

(14:32):
So TODs. So Todd's balls are bouncing. It's on his balls.
You can see that the shaft is just gently lifting
as as as he's walking. I noticed that. You'll all
want to go back and watch. And he's and he
says to the janitor, can I He's like, can I
get in? And he says, if you get in here,
I'm gonna hang you by that banana hammock. Yeah, atomic
weggie right off the side of this roof. Yes. And

(14:54):
then the janitor uses a mirror to blind me so
that I crashed the scooter right, and um, yes, I'm
bragging to the nurses and I say I'm a lifetime
member of the Danger Club, and um, they're impressed. And
then I throw away my scooter. And then um, then
we do this sequence of where we talk about pain
tolerance and Beard Fusse is pulling a hook out of

(15:17):
a S and M guy's face. Yes, what does he
do at this hospital? I don't know. I thought we
settled on him being either a pharmacist or a There
was talk that he's an anesthesiologist maybe, but why would
an anesthesiologist be pulling a hook? I think it's safe
to say. I think if you ask Bill, we don't

(15:38):
need to ask Bill, because I can tell you Bill
would say there is I have no idea what he does.
But the point is is that he's just a generic
doctor at the hospital. We know that he does like
to spend his downtime in the pharmacy, because he is
often in the pharmacy. The pharmacy and um and but no,
in this episode, he is removing a hook from a

(16:01):
I guess, I uh, what do you call that, Joel?
What do you call that? Someone who is in leathers
and likes needles in their face? They remember the BDSM community. Yes,
he's a member of them, stand for Bondage and Submission
b d S and he's into b d S M
and uh, but he's gone too far obviously because he's

(16:24):
in the hospital with a hook in his face and
as Beard FAA is trying to remove it, but he's
steaming in agony in pleasure. Oh yeah, what does he say?
He's like, oh, oh, I forget what he says at
the end of it, but it's definitely that of yes, don't.
We don't really learn if he's completing his what he

(16:46):
began at home or not, but we can assume he
might be um. And then we see Todd's atomic lea wait, no,
we don't. We go to the face chart and the
guy with the face first, the patient match is the
face chart perfectly, which I laughed out loud at. Yeah,
that was funny. And then Todd jumps and then Todd

(17:06):
we see the atomic weggie, which is way too big.
First of all, it's way too how how first of all,
not just his underwear? How wide does the janitor's reach
have to be to be able to to be able
to have a wedgie that wide hanging? It's literally it's

(17:28):
literally his whole body plus some So the janitor's reach
has to be that of a crane pretty much. I
don't know, but all I know is that the underwear
itself would be like that would be like, no, it
would be enormous. It would be like the biggest fucking
pair of underwear ever. But I laughed how loud. It
was so fucking funny. And then he hits the glass.

(17:48):
That was fun and I and for some reason, I
remember this episode. Maybe it's because of the Indiana Jones spot,
but I remember this episode. And I remember Todd laughing,
well like screaming, but actually laughing. Anytime he was naked.
He was giggling. He thought it was so funny. I
think he's a bit of an exhibitionist rob because by

(18:11):
the way that ething we did aired, and I didn't
hear anybody talk about it. I don't know if anyone
saw it. I didn't. I didn't see it either. I
had no idea. Did you guys know that you're in it?
That's crazy. You have cameo, Joel, you have a well
I don't know if you see Daniel in the booth,
but Joel, you have a cameo. That's very I'll tell
my mother. She was so excited. Yeah, tell your mom.

(18:32):
I think your mom slid into my DMS. Stop it. No,
did she she is on Instagram. She does she does
comment some time. Oh lord, I want you to know
that it went down in the MS. Boy, No, it's
very sweet. I think it was something like thank you
for being so wonderful to my daughter. That sounds like, yeah,

(18:54):
she was very sweet. I don't have to talk to
her about it. I don't know if it was her
or someone pretending to be her. Um, I'm gonna ask her.
I don't her I was I was scrolling. Um. Now
JD gets his ass kicked by a kid, his neighbor,
Eliot's neighbor, a six year old kid, beach Ja. Yes, yeah, yeah,

(19:17):
one time only he's not gonna do what happened when
the last time that he fucked up the scooter he
beat me up. Yeah right, it's it's now this whole rant.
I'm trying to be coxed in the ICU, right, I'm like,
is this your second one or your third one that
you've had. I don't know, because it feels like you
have a lot of long mono monologues. Yeah, there's a

(19:37):
lot of monologues, like Boston around my interns and telling
him what to do. I'm trying to I'm so want
to be cocks but um, I this once again I
fall flat on my face. It's you know, these episodes
about him teaching me a big lesson, um about not
to give up on a patient before they're ready to
give up themselves. Now, Gary Busey, Sarah, Sarah Elliott gets

(19:59):
mistaken for Gary Busey, and there's a really random Gary
Busey cameo and Gary Busey exits the nurses station and
you say, bye, Elliott. Yeah, I didn't. I This is
another thing. This is where I'm like, I don't get this,
Like this is like this is part of the show,
but it's hell yeah if you're a stoner. Even a

(20:26):
stoner would be like, I don't understand this, man, What
didn't you understand? What the fuck is Gary Busey doing
hanging out the hospital, dude? And it's not a freaking
and it's not a freaking fantasy man. In the world
of scrubs, Gary Busey is a doctor. No, a guy
who looks a lot like Gary Busey. Nobody, Nobody, nobody,

(20:46):
I think again. I think Bill was like how funny
would it be? First of all, I wonder if Sarah
was offended by being told she looked like Gary um
because no offense to Gary Busey. It's not really a
complement a woman would want to hear. I don't say,
Joel No. Yeah so, but it was random. I think

(21:07):
he comes back again on his on his U I
saw and scrubs wiki on his name tag his picture
is Sarah. No. The people in the name tag and
the people in the name tag office also were confused.
Yeah so as somebody who smokes jazz cabbage every now

(21:28):
and then. This did not make sense to me. This
all of a sudden, like this this episode. As as
much as I laughed at this episode, this episode seems
like you know, and it has some really grounding moments
between j D and Cox, but everything around it other
than that is like what the heck? Like everything, doctor Acula.
Maybe you're rushing through alight, We're gonna take a break

(21:51):
and we'll be right back. Yes, it is a very
donory episode. If you like jazz cabbage, this is a
good one for you. This is crazy, dude, I go
up somebody's butt and find a golden colon as Indiana Jones.

(22:11):
Now you must have loved this because you this was,
first of all, a very funny, big fantasy. They clearly
built the inside of a colon as a set. And
you love Indiana Jones, So was this a big moment
for you? I tried to do my best Indiana Jones walk.
I tried to do everything that I could to pay
homage to one of my favorite characters in cinema history. Well,

(22:36):
I think you did a really great job. Now you
you there's some clear references to Indiana Jones, right, instead
of you go colon, why didn't have to be the colon? Right?
Instead of snakes? Why didn't have to be snakes? Right?
And then they did a good job with those arrows
that looked good. Ye have special effects department, Yeah, that
was all effects, But I mean, for it looks good.

(22:59):
And then you place the tumor with a bag of sand.
Sand is that what it is in the movie? It
is in the movie. It's a bag of sand. And
he tries to weigh the sand to match the ambulet
and not the ambulet the idol. And then you come
out and then the nurses have arrows in them and
you say something like they knew the risk, something like

(23:20):
they knew that Indiana Jones too. No, that's not Okay, Joel,
Are you a big Indiana Jones fan like Donald? Oh?
Hell yeah, I mean all the Okay, can I can?
I can? I can? I ask you a question? Are
you Are you saying that the fourth one doesn't count?
What fourth one? Oh? Very good? People feel about this? Is?

(23:42):
This is what I was going to ask you, because
and and you write about that too. A lot of
people pretend that the sea the ninth season of Scrubs
doesn't exist. Are you excited for Indiana Jones the next one?
Am I excited for the next one? Yes, Joel? Uh, well,
we'll see how I'm gonna see it. You know obviously

(24:02):
all the franchise properties. Am I excited for it? No?
I mean, I'll have like a countdown going, and I'm
not checking for new trailers. But it's like I imagine
when Charles Bronson was getting old as fun, people were like,
I just don't know if I could go see this
movie anymore, you know what I mean? Not that Harrison
Ford as old as fuck, but like he's getting up
there in age now, you know what I mean. Yeah,

(24:23):
I don't know if I can buy him freaking beating
the crap out of twenty five year old not see men,
you know what I mean? Like it's like, yeah, and
they haven't aged up the storyline at all either, Like
a forty five year old like anthropologist is doing much
different things than a seventy year old anthropologist, Like if
you're in the field, what does that look like? And

(24:44):
how does it change? And are you you know he's
a teacher, Like, there's so many opportunities, I think, for
different storylines that make sense, that keep that classic cinema
style that sort of made the original three so successful.
So oh, I don't know know who's directing it actually
mean it out, but him going to war against a
bunch of freaking people and fisticuffs and all of that shit.

(25:05):
It just I can't buy that. I'm sorry. I loved
the movies, you know, I love the suspended reality of
movies and everything like that, But that's some bullshit. Dude,
Come on, man, Oh, well, you know what, James Mangold,
who wrote Logan, is doing it. And I love Logan
and he did an older Logan, so maybe yeah. But

(25:28):
Logan's also a superhero, you know what I mean. That's
the one thing that you could the dude has super
strength and healing. If you removed at the superhero elements
from that movie, it would still be bombed. It's still
be so good. Well, he'd be dead in the first
five minutes of the moment too. If he survived the shooting,
it still here, So JD doesn't know that Arnold Palmer

(25:49):
is a golfer. That was really funny. I think that
was weird to me. That was also right hating on
this episode because it just was out of control. Man,
I'm sorry, I'm not hating on it. I just thought
this episode was out of you. I love the show Scrubs.
I love the music, I love I love I love
the actors, I love the character. Well, I thought it
was very funny when I say, he going, I'm talking

(26:12):
to him about the Arnold Palmer drink and then he
says Arnlod Palmer's a golfer, and I go, I'm sure
he has a lot of hobbies. Perry the man's a
drink mugul. Now this part of the show I did
laugh at and was like, this is this is the
most scrubs out of everything. Everybody's around outside in the
parking lot and Kelso goes, hold on, wait a minute,

(26:37):
take a look around bleacher ladder bucket of combs. She's
trying to take the picture, run and everybody runs, and
everyone had been lured out to the parking lot being
promised different things. Yes, and uh and Todd had thought
there was a booby touching booth by the way, we

(27:01):
skipped it. But the pictures of the of the other
years where Carla has tried to get everyone together were
so funny. It todds in everyone in a bananamic and
like the first year there's like three people, second years
is like two people, and then the last one is
just him and Carlo. Yeah, the crew photo that has
taken both at this point, the janitor ruins with his mirror,

(27:23):
and the one at the end is all our crew.
That's our actual crew, and that's not everybody. It gets
a sense of how many people worked on the show.
That's that's not even everybody, but that's as many people
as were available that day to come be in the picture. Um.
And at the end you'll notice that Bill is in
it twice, so I'm sure on purpose knowing him. So

(27:44):
there's a close up, um, and you see Bill in
the background, and then it pops wide to show everyone
and that and that he's lying. He's lying in front
um like Waldo. Worst looked for Bill. But um, you
know what I want to say something also, Buddy, because
I have been shitting on this episode, but I also
wrote in my notes, you know Zb's on fire this year.

(28:05):
Oh well, there we go, finally you have some You
literally are on fire this year. You have a rhythm going,
You're very h you're very funny, and you're very charming.
The thing that we didn't talk about is the bucket
that sorry, the nurses basket and Jad taking a bite
out of everything. Yeah, that was very very very very funny. Yea.

(28:28):
And right after that, right after the last one happened
where you I guess it's the fruit. Yeah yeah, yeah,
And you're like, whatever type of fruit that was that?
You just say? I wrote ZB is on fire this year?
You were Is this the first year you got nominated?
I don't know about that, but I definitely I feel
that I'm extra silly this year. I look like I'm

(28:50):
really happy to be there, not that I ever wasn't.
I just mean, like, I don't know some seasons I
agree with you. I had I just see an extra
pep in my step. Better for worse. Maybe sometimes it
was too much, but I just look like I'm all
fucking stoked to be there, and I'm I know, I
improv like a crazy person on this episode, a lot
of this wacky shit. Bill and I and you were

(29:11):
all just making up at the time. Now, so this
was I don't think anyone ever thought Doctor Acula was
going to become so popular. This was the very first
mention of vampire Doctors and someone says vampire doctors, and
I go, how did you know about my screenplay? And
then the fans, as we all know now, thought that
was so funny, And to this day it's one of

(29:32):
the most referenced things that ever comes up in my life.
Regarding Scrubs. People are like, when are you and Donald
making Doctor Acula? I really think we should make it,
but make it a animated cartoon or animated stop motion
animated movie and we do the voices of the That's
a great idea, you know. You know people always ask

(29:54):
us to do about doing some sort of Scrubs thing now,
and you know it would be the easiest thing, not
easiest in terms of getting it made, but the easiest
would be an animated thing. Yeah, an animated series, right
because everyone everyone would of course lend their voice and
I don't know who the fuck's going to write it,
but I mean like, it wouldn't have we wouldn't have
to all figure out schedules and how to get it together.

(30:15):
But that would be that would be cool, Like, well, yeah,
it would be dope. Like think about it. There's Clone High,
there's what name was. I mean back in the day
when we were kids, sitcoms did actually become cartoons on Saturday.
Like there was Punky Brewster, there was Steve Berkel, there
was a bunch of those. It would be really cool
actually for Scrubs to become a sitcom animated show. I personally,

(30:39):
you know, me and you all who listened to the podcast,
note that I would prefer to be stop motion. I
think that would be a really cool, right, But it
isn't that so much more expensive to do stop motion? No,
not necessarily, it's all It all costs money, no matter
how you look at it. It all takes right. But
I'm saying, compared to two D animation, um, isn't stop

(31:01):
motion a lot more expensive to make? I don't know
the answer to that, to be honest with you, you
might because you're so into the well, I don't. I mean,
I don't know how much. I don't know how much RYA.
Those are all two D animated shows, I mean movies
and stuff like that, and I imagine that, you know,

(31:23):
having animator's period, paying animators long hours, it still takes
years to make. I don't know. I can't answer that question. Well,
can you see if you can find an answer to that.
I've I never know the answer, like is I would
just assume in my head when I watch the stop
motion videos of them doing it, like, oh my god.
But it all takes time. It all takes time. That's
the thing, though, And it all takes I'm just curious.

(31:44):
I'm just curious, like one person in CG animation doesn't
do everything. They do one thing and then another person
does the shadowing, and then another person does the coloring,
and then you know, I'm just curious, like if you
I'm curious to the answer if which one in general
costs more? And Joel's gonna find out the answer. Um,
there's a random momentum who gave her a shade remote.

(32:07):
I didn't know we had shade remote. I don't know
where that comes out. Um, oh no, So then this
is really funny when I when when I when I'm
telling you guys about first of all, I sucked the
blood out of the you know, the female patient, and
then I spit it into the test tube and that's

(32:27):
a fantasy. And we pop and I'm telling you guys
in the cafeteria about my my screenplay, and you guys
are so geeked out about it. Donald, You're really into it.
You're ready to start. And then I and I go
and then and you see the doctor Acula with the
period come up on the screen, and I'm like, you
take that period, you get it out of there, you
squish it together. It says Dracula. And then you're like,

(32:51):
that's an awesome ending. And I go, thank you for
telling me what I already know. Turk, you know you know, Um,
I just realized something. JD wrote Doctor Acula. It's his story,
it's his story, and he keeps trying to get it.
Mean well, when this continues the joke, we we we

(33:12):
keep trying to find moments to to to make it
in the hospital, right, that's when you wig, yeah, with
that wig moment. That is so funny when you the
camera cuts straight out of shuffle. Yeah, the camera, the
camera falls over and now I'm wearing the wig. Oh

(33:34):
my god, that's funny. Um. Yeah. My other idea, my
other idea I pitched a bill. I know I mentioned
it on here, but my my idea for a Scrubs
movie was that somehow we come, we come into money,
like a patient leaves us money or something, and we
and we use that money to to finally make Doctor Acula.

(33:54):
It'd be hilarious. A live action version, Yeah, a live
action version of Doctor Actil. Would it have crazy special
effects like real explosions and special effects? Sure? I don't know.
I just I just know that the fans anytime you
talk about this stuff, they go and when you like
if I'm I have every like post a picture of
mean like on a set, They're like, please tell me
it's doctor Accula, a figure of me, like behind a

(34:22):
movie camera. Everyone people are somebod people are like, finally
making Accula. Huh. Imagine if we really made Doctor Accula
and we went all out, balls out and fucking like
black Widow Dead bad boy, like straight up like with
the uber duper special effects, we should call Kevin Figi
and be like, listen, we got it. I know it's
not a Marvel property, but we have an idea for you.

(34:43):
We got a bad guy for Blade. We got the
bad guy for Blade. It's Doctor Accula, played by two actors,
Donald Phazon and Zach Braf. What is Joel saying here?
So basically Missing Link, which is a movie like I
did that stop motion, I had a budget of one
hundred and two point three million. And then Over the Moon,
which is a CGI movie that came out the same
year for Netflix, was forty four million. That's different. That's

(35:07):
different the same level of talent. What about now just
look at uh, look at Pixar, what Pixar costs and
look at what do you Toy Story for a budget? Yeah,
well that doesn't count because of everyone's salaries on like
a No, well this that movie we had. That movie
had Zach Galafanaki, the one of them, the once she's

(35:27):
talking about had Zach Galafanakis. No, but it's but it's
by by by the time you're paying Tom imagine what
Tom Hanks is being paid in the fourth version of
Toy Story. You got you gotta do apples to apples. Okay,
So let's do Rayah and the last Dragon then okay,
which is a couple of years later. That's a good.
That's a good all right? So oh wow, so still

(35:53):
there it is so stop motion costs more? Yes, yes,
I got it, um Donald, your brain your brain freeze
scream is very funny. It's very real. Have you ever
had brain freeze? I hate freeze. I get it all
the time. I hate it. Everyone has brain freeze. I
know what the funny things about brain freeze is while
you're screaming in agony, you're still scooping up the next bite. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

(36:16):
nobody really hates brain freeze them. You know what you're
supposed to do. By the way, here's a tip from
a fake doctor. You're supposed to press your tongue to
the roof of your mouth right now. You're not have
heard that, But do you know why? I assume because
your tongue is warm and it's gonna heat up the
cold spot right well, yeah, because that's where your brain freezes.

(36:37):
Your brain freezes when your tongue hits when the cold
hits the roof of your mouth. Hey, what a weird
human defect. Yeah, so look, we pretty much went through
all the show. Do we go that shit? Calm down? Yes, um, okay,
you're just okay, what sumbala? That ship was hilarious. He goes,

(37:00):
how old do you think I am? And I'm like,
change the subject. You and Eden should come over for
some jumbalaya. And he goes, oh, it would be good
to get her out of the house, and I'm like,
change the subject back. You're seventy eight, sir, you think
I'm not old? Jumbalaya? That's funny, right, That's very funny.

(37:21):
And then he admits. He admits that he um, he
trolls from He trolls Brookstone Stone. He hangs out at Brookstone.
I don't even know if there's still are Brookstones. But
I don't know if things just either. I don't know
if I used to love Brookstone and the Sharper Immage
when I was a kid, if you went into the
Sharper Image, I just thought it was the coolest place

(37:42):
in the world. Yeah. Absolutely, I would say. I would
get the Sharper Immage catalog right, and I'd have my
little bottom. I'm I'm taking a twozie and I and
I just I put the catalog out on my lap
and I turned and my thing and I would listen.
I be so excited. I like, wait for this. It
was like a I wait for the catalog to do
this pooh, and then I'd on each page, I'd be like, okay,

(38:05):
I could pick one thing, I'd pick this, Okay, next
page folded over. Okay, if I could pick one thing,
I would pick this. And I would play that game
with myself when we listened back to this, I want
you to listen to how you set that story up.
I'm just telling you how geeked I was. Like when
it was a Sharper Image catalog day and I had

(38:27):
a pooh, it was very exciting. I would like, I'd
like fold down the corners, being like one day I'm
gonna get that massage chair. Do you want to know
when I realized Star Wars was like a big deal
for me when somebody came over and was like, wow, man,
you got Star Wars in your bathroom. Like I literally
had Star Wars books because I thought it was cool

(38:49):
for people when they came over and they were taking
I was for your guests so they could they could
you know what I mean? And I had it lined
up in you know, in series order all of these
comics and everything, like the people are gonna spend a
long time in your bathroom. Do you think it's weird
to lay out reading materials for guests in the guest bathroom.

(39:12):
I mean, I think now that we know about hygiene
like uh, COVID hygiene and stuff like that, I think
it's weird because you know, wiping your ass and stuff
like that. Then I know, but when your guests are
coming over, like I'm talking about, like I have this
little like half bath with it for guests right now,
I have some reading materials in there that are just like, hey,
you know, hey, take a look at this book. But

(39:34):
sometimes I'm like, is that weird because I'm telling them, like,
you know, don't just have a quick pooh, like, no,
stay a while read it. Just like everybody has phones now,
so I can't imagine let me just pick up this book,
but if it's a comic book, you might pick it up.
Like that's what that's That was my whole angle. My

(39:55):
angle was I put comic books in here so that
when they come and they can look at pictures, and
you know, I bet there's so much less reading on
the toilet now that people have phones like people just
read their phone. Joel's right, they don't pick up a nice,
a nice book that you've left out for your guests. Well, no,
because hygiene now also suggests that that's not really the
best idea. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

(40:17):
put a piece of fishing line on the book and
see if it breaks. I'm gonna see if anyone picked
it up. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hide
a piece of fishing lines to the reading materials that
I've set out and see if anyone picks them up. Um,
the janitor is finally so thrilled to be included in
the photo that he hugs Carla. Yes, he's so tired

(40:39):
of being left out. Yes, who says this great line?
Never make assumptions based on your own perceptions. It is
it's him to me because I've made an assumption based
on my perception of her age that she's ready to go,
and she's like, what are you talking about. I'm not
ready to go. I'm ready to fight this fucking thing.

(41:00):
And I think that's very good. Scrubs Life advice for Earth.
Never make assumptions based on your own perceptions. I think
how many times you've gone down the road in your
head making up these elaborate stories of what might be
and none of it is true. It's just shit you're
making up in your head. It's very hard to live
by that when you have so many distractions like Facebook

(41:22):
and Instagram. And I know, I'm just saying that, like you,
we we something happens, we all make up an elaborate
story of what we thought that that meant. And then
of course when it's disproven, and you get all anxious
in your head and depressed and pissed off, and then
of course later nine percent times it's disproven and it's
not that, and then you just move on to the

(41:42):
next thing. You don't ever teach your brain and be like, hey,
remember that day you spent stressed because you thought someone
was ignoring you when they actually didn't see you. It's like,
we don't we don't learn, you know. I guess I'm
saying I shouldn't be saying a universal weed. I'm saying
I I I find that I, you know, make assumptions

(42:04):
based on my perceptions. Life would be so much easier
if we could stop ourselves from doing that, because we
suffer so much from things that we make up in
our heads that aren't have any basis in reality. Challenge
to shake your own perception that like literally shake the
way you view the world. We're also given so many
views of how the world should be for us, you

(42:25):
know what I mean. Like it's not like we're you know,
you open up, you open up your phone, you turn
on the TV. I'm not talking news like sitcoms, whatever
it is, fantasy shows, whatever it is. There's so many
things out there that are like so opposite of what
you're trying to do. Like if you're trying to just
be like, all right, if everything out there doesn't exist, well,

(42:48):
it does exist, But if everything out there, my perception
of what's out there isn't exactly accurate because I don't
know what's out there. But yet I'm giving all of this,
given all of this false information from I hate to
say it, but from media, like whether it be you know, Instagram,
whether it'd be television, whether it'd be you know, whatever,

(43:12):
whether it be your favorite Uh. I don't know. I
don't know why today I'm such a I'm a hater. Today,
I'm like a hater on everything you're in a weird
mood today. I think we can all agree that you're
in a weird mood. That's what I'm talking about, all right.
But I wasn't saying I maybe I was misunderstood. I
wasn't saying related to our perceptions of the media. I'm
just to use a quick example, just meeting up out

(43:33):
of the blue. You see a friend and they and
you wave to them and they ignore you. Okay, Now,
you might spend if you're neurotic, and like me, you
might spend all day going what the fuck did I
do to Paul? Why is Paul mad at me? Fucking hell?
I bet it's because, Oh I bet he's mad because
of this, And I suffer all day long. And then
later I run into Paul and I go, did I

(43:54):
upset you? And He's like, what are you talking about?
I didn't see you at the grocery store. What are
you're talking about? Now? I spent the whole whole day
anxious about what I did to Paul. I'm just talking
about that level of shit. That's what I understood, And
I think that I think it's other people suffer from this.
It's it's it's horrible, it's it's it's and we just
go from one thing or the other. Is that hard

(44:17):
to shake the show? And I wish I got to
pull a ball hit that. That's a fucking rip. Fucking
holy cowd. You don't smoke it through a glass tube?
Do you just roll it in papers? No? I smoke
it through a glass tube. So you're back on that

(44:37):
ganja huh. You know I decided today that I was
going to get off of it. Actually all right, good.
I decided to do the you can't do special occasions,
you're not capable of that? No, I'm not incapable of
every once in a while. Yeah, I've learned. Well, that's
a good to admit to yourself. It's the truth. And

(44:57):
so because of that, I've my wife's gonna be very
happy about this. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna go for another streak. I'm of the school
you're ready. Yeah, if you if one is incapable of
not um doing something occasionally but they probably shouldn't do it,

(45:22):
then I have. Then there's so many things in life
that I can't do. What's the case, what are you
incapable of doing occasionally? You want the HONESTO goin this truth.
I know sex, but that's that's different. You love sex.
We all know that. Besides sex, Um, I love toys.

(45:44):
I mean things that could be harmful to your body,
not toys. Oh woa shit weed sex, that's it all right,
weed and sex. Well, you don't have to give up
sex because your wife enjoys sex with you. I think
I kill Should we bring the guests in, m let's
do it. Let's take a quick break. I am going

(46:05):
to pee urine through my No, they don't need to
know that. They don't know. What's going to happen is
my yurine is going to be pushed through my urretra
and it's going to end up in a bull of
water and we'll be right back. And we're bad. We're bad.
I liked our new edge hearing the song I'm Woo.

(46:30):
It's very hooky. So I'm not a big Are you
a radio listener, Daniel or are you a I have
my iPod and I found some songs on a you
know what I mean? Like, how do you do it?
Spotify pretty much exclusively? Like I mostly listen when I'm
at my computer, when I'm in the car, I'm either
listening to podcasts or I'm listening to Spotify. Yes here

(46:51):
I put on I vacillate between like Lithium on serious Um,
which is like nineties grunge, and then I listened to
like um, this is this channel called Spectrum. I listened
to a lot of news when him in the car,
But I also play Hits one, which is like whatever
the latest pop song, Top forty pop songs other week,
and that's why that's where I hear the noon joints. Well,

(47:11):
I'm also friends with Ed, so I like to hear
what he's up to. Came out no, but I emailed
with him and said, this is very hooky and great
congrats when you're coming to LA. I haven't less necessarily
got hooked on that song yet, it's very host You're

(47:33):
gonna love it. We've listened to it a couple of times.
You know, I'm it doesn't even sound like him. I
feel like well. He also then put out an acoustic
version of it, which sounds way more like him. It's yeah,
it sounds like a dance track, but you know it's summer.
You need a bop, right, Joel, It's like a summer bop.
I just love that sharing. To be honest with you,

(47:54):
I like Ed Sharon and I like summer bops. All right,
let's bring in the guests. Let's see what Joelle has
planned for us today. We got a car. Games. You
can talk, you know, like a BA spoke maybe talking
about the episode. So come on, let's get the show.

(48:16):
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Steven and Trina. Hello,
Stephen and Trina, how are you hello? Right, good to
see you. Welcome to the program. That's Donald Fazon, djel
Monique and everyone's favorite DJ DJ Daniel who streams on

(48:40):
Twitch and you can throw money at him um and
will if it's the right amount of money, he will
take you private and twork it out. And he will
twork while he plays tetris Um nailed it for Thank you, Daniel.

(49:02):
I would, I would. I would watch you do anything
on Twitch. I know that you play video games, but
I would watch you do anything. By Wednesday Friday Sunday,
can we pitch things for you to do? Sure? Yeah,
he said he would do it if we make it
rain for him. We make it rain. Maybe really need
to make it. Look, let's not we don't. We don't
need to put a monetary incentive behind it. You can

(49:23):
just tell me and I will legit make it rain.
But I want you to do something. We have to
set a date because we're prerecording a lot of these episodes,
and I'm sure there are gonna be a lot of
people that want to be on the day that we
decided Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. Yeah, but it has to be
like Wednesday the what or their Friday the what. We know, Well,
we need to plan a date in advance that we
can tell everyone. And then, Daniel, I feel like, if

(49:45):
I'm gonna watch a twitch stream, if I'm gonna make
it rain, I don't want to watch the thing that
you're doing because I don't care what. I want to
watch you do something. I like, all right, Nan'll make
us something. So so he's gonna be performing West Side
Story basically, Zach Right, Yes, yes, Dan, not West Side Story,

(50:09):
but um, if you could perform a one man show
of Dear Evan Hanson or Wicked, right, just dear Evan Hansen.
Now he said Wicked. He said Wicked. We're holding on
that one. By the way, Joel, you got tickets day still.
You told me to see Brella's announced she's going She's
bringing back Waitress, and I'm gonna starn in herself. What
date did you get? I'll go with you woke up

(50:30):
it happening on my birthday, wow, which is October one,
And I was like, that is too serendipitous for me
to be here when the tickets darn stale. So I
do wait in line for an hour virtually, and I
got in and I got great set seats in like
the orchestra section. I'm so excited it's gonna do well.
I'm gonna go too because I'm so excited about Here's
the only problem with her doing that thing. I'd be

(50:53):
I'd be in the audience and I'd be like, do
love song? No, imagine what about when the people came
to see your play that you think they're yelling to Clueless? Yeah,
they're clueless. Just did that monologue. It was funny. Clueless
killed that monologue. What's up, clueless, clooness. There's actually a

(51:20):
moment in that in the play that I did where
we do break the fourth wall and we jump into
the audience and take yeah, take a oh, but it's
Steve Martin. You love it, I know, But I hate
audience participation. I was, but it's Steve Martin, you love it.
Don't say I don't want to be picked up on stage,
but I'm from making me feel welcome. Zach, Why what

(51:40):
did I do? He said, you hate audience participation? Oh no,
that's different. I love guests, and I love our friends
and fans of the show. I'd be saying. I whenever
I'm in a play and they start coming into the
audience and interacting with with the audience, I'm always like,
oh no, oh no, don't like Like I remember when
I was a kid and I saw cats and they
were like sitting on your lap, and I was like,

(52:01):
I don't want that cat to see lap. Ready the cat,
I don't want that. I don't want that freaking sweaty
dancer on the ball tail looks like it hasn't been
washed since eighty four. Yeah, I don't like audience participation.

(52:23):
That show lied, man, That show lied, and it lied
now and forever at the Winter Garden Theater. My ass, Well,
I'm sorry if you love that show, but I'm gonna
say something I don't normally ever say bad about theater.
Drum Roll show. It was it a good movie. It's

(52:45):
I didn't make it through the movie, but it's like,
it's poetry about cats. It's poetry about cats, which, if
you love cats, is your jam. But it turns out
it wasn't my jam. Oh sorry, do you love cats? Okay?
So do you love cats? The musical point? You just

(53:08):
proved my point. You're a crazy cat lady. Okay, this
thing is made for you. Someone clearly went Andrew lad
Webert Clearing went, oh my god, people love cats. What
about a musical based on on cat poetry? And they
couldn't get Trina and I'm a I'm a crazy cat,
all right? Good? Well, you know there was a lot
of debate and when they made the Cats movie. I

(53:28):
don't know if you guys know this, but when they
originally did the the computer effects, they gave the cats
assholes because yes, why did they take that out? Well,
it was really distracting to see all the assholes. So
then they digitally had to go back and remove all
the assholes. And then I saw someone on Twitter was like,

(53:51):
released the asshole cut? Who thought of that? That's my
good question. I didn't. They mustn't went to all these
things are tested. They wants to go to a test
audience and someone's like, Okay, don't get me wrong, I
love cats, I love poetry. Those fake assholes are really
bumming me out. I can I can throw a random

(54:13):
thought for you and Donald this a little bit more.
I grew up in the Great City of Kentucky, and
the Kentucky mascot used to have a tongue in his mouth. Um,
if you look at it today, there's no tongue in
the University of Kentucky mascot because if you look at it,
it looks very phallic. Yeah. They had dick tongue. Yeah, yeah,

(54:38):
correct tongue. Dick tongue. So you've heard of twat ears.
We now know of dick tongue. Yeah, so there there's
some interesting folks out there. I guess that that seed
a bunch of dick tongue. Well, well enough people saw
dick tongue to be like, no, we got we gotta
change that. So apparently, apparently like the Little Mermaid the

(55:02):
on the VHS uh back in the day. I don't
know if this is true or not, because I had
the VHS, but then when I found this out, I
didn't have that. I had, you know, CDD he drew
a penis. He drew a penis as the castle, drew
a penis as the castle. I had this hand the
castle I had, I had, like, you're like penis castle. Anyway, Daniel,

(55:33):
we need that on the soundboard please. I hope you're
keeping a list of these. I just thought that. I
just thought that was outrageously like how mad do you
have to be to be Like, I'm gonna make it
so that when kids look at the cover of this
they take the dick pretty much like do you remember

(55:54):
that camel the camel animated camel for Camel Cigarettes told
me were crawling up clear a cock and balls. No,
it was undeniable. If you look at the Joe Cammell
animated character, he's face is a giant cock and balls. Yes,
just Tren, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say this in

(56:15):
front of you. Joel's used language. I don't she's queen.
Respect the queen. Um. Oh by the way, um, I
want to say something. Sorry, Stephen and Trina, you're gonna
have your moment. But I I the T shirt we
put out with all the names on it. I kind
of fucked up because I answered the question who should

(56:36):
be on the T shirt like very late at night.
And I want you to know that I took everyone's
constructive criticism. And when I say constructive, I mean everyone's
screaming at me. Um. And I fixed the T shirt
so now it includes Ted, it includes Jordan, and I
changed it from Todd to the Todd. So if you

(56:58):
were someone who already bought it, like I think how
many people, like five hundred people bought ye, you're gonna
have a very limited edition shirt. You got it. You
got it, Stephen, uh No, but I should have invested.
Oh anyway, My point is that was that was a
limited edition. Those are gone and now I corrected, man

(57:21):
we um, Now we have a fixed shirt. Anyway, they
were on at cotton Bureau. You got at cotton bureau
dot com and just look up Fake Doctor's Real Friends
and you'll see uh the shirts. All right, guys, you
have a question for us? Yeah, the first question I
wanted to throw it at you was, you know a
lot of times if you're just sad, upset, in a

(57:41):
in a terrible mood, Um, what's kind of your your
go to or one or two go to movies or
TV shows that you can just watch over and over again,
laugh and be in a good mood. Donald, that's a
good question for you. Um, I like try. I like
movies when I'm feeling down and out that are where

(58:06):
the character kind of feels like I feel, but as
triumphant in an Indian triumphant Indian I should. Yeah, And
so movies like growing up, I was a huge fan
of Can't Buy Me Love, And you know, like rom
coms are great for when you're in your field for
me personally, when you're in your feelings and you want

(58:26):
to you know, you want to still go through the emotions,
but at the end of it, you want to feel love.
Uh So for me, a good rom com is always
great when I am in a bad mood. Absolutely. M
I usually just try leane to comedy, you know, a
half hour comedy. Um I've been Yeah, something that will

(58:48):
make me laugh. I watched, Um, I've been watching the
second season of Dave lately. Hilarious, really fucking bizarre and
weird but funny. Um. Yeah, I tend to. I tend
to seek out communic things I think to cheer me up. Yeah. Absolutely.
The other thing is with how music is kind of
so important in scrubs and then just kind of evoking

(59:10):
the emotions and you're in Donald's just absolute love for music.
Music can bring you to that that that moment in
that place, like a few other things I think can.
And so my question is, is, um, what song and
if and if you care to share the memory? Um,
you know what's the key memory that a you know,

(59:31):
what's the song that invokes the key memory? And if
you care to share it, you know what the memory is. Okay,
So for me, it's not my memory. It's well, it
is my memory, but it it's not my emotion that
I don't know how to explain it. Um. In Family Ties,
it was the first time that I realized where I

(59:52):
felt the angst for another character. And it was when
Alex p. Keaton's girlfriend left for the first time and
he is writing a letter to her at the kitchen
table and the music that's playing in the background, I
think is, what did you do you think I would
do at this moment? Right? And that was like the

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first time that I felt that the you know that,
you know, the you know I had. I had never
felt love before when that came out. I had never
felt you know, well, I felt love for my parents,
but I had never felt like love for another, Yeah,
like a romantic love before, but through that I felt it,

(01:00:34):
like really for the first time, through that moment, and
so I I, you know, that's one that it's not
my emotion. I mean, it's it was sparked by someone
else's moment, but it's still resonated in me. Did you
mean Steven specifically in in a piece of film or TV,

(01:00:57):
not necessarily just just music in general. Yea, Because when
I thought about it, I thought about Fooling the Rain
with led Zeppelin, which is, uh, the song that we
left and walked back down the aisle after our wedding
kind of our our sol kind of brings me back
to that memory and that, you know, goofy conversation on
because we got buried on the beach afterwards, and you know,

(01:01:20):
it's kind of like, how far are we supposed to walk?
How was to do here? We didn't do this in
rehearsal very well. How find walk? Did you walk to
make it to the ocean? Did make it? Yes? We
kept on going. Threw her up in my arms and
uh we we just kept on walking for a while.

(01:01:41):
So what where where where do you? You said you
you're in you were in Kentucky or you are still Um,
we were we we are just south part of Atlanta.
So we're in Georgia. Yeah, yeah, I'm coming there on.
I'm coming to the atl I haven't flown in so long.
I'm gonna I'm gonna suit up and come on a plane. Donald,

(01:02:01):
you've flown to Atlanta? How long is the flight? Four
hour flight? Four and a half hour flight from my lad? Yeah?
About that? Yeah, yourself to watch. They call it Hot Lanta. Yeah,
it's very hot right now. It's hot in La right now.
It's La right now. Ye. I like it. Though people
complain about it, but I like it. I love you

(01:02:23):
like that heat. Like I much rather be hot than
cold any any day. Absolutely, no doubt, no doubt that
cold can kiss it. What do you think I might
answer to your question? I was because I was going
to answer, like, Donald, like, what song I've said this before.
I'm sorry to be a broken record, but the sea
song that ends six feet under breathe me. I just

(01:02:48):
heard it. I heard in the gym the other day,
and I like instantly brought me back to all the
emotions I had with that beautiful series ending and um
and people think say that I'm decent at placing music.
I think that it's one of the best place pieces
of music in a in a show. This is so
perfect and so moving to me. Okay, and then there's
one song that makes me cry, no matter when it

(01:03:10):
comes on, No matter what, I don't know why, I
know what it is, what you're trying to get into,
what you're trying to do. There can be mericos when
you believe Zack Zille hasn't seen this movie, he doesn't
know hope it is from this Phil No, this is

(01:03:34):
Whitney Houston and Mariyah Kerry in first animated film. You
can che when you believe somehow you will. All right,
it's time for South Atlanta's favorite segments. It's time to

(01:03:57):
fix You're ahead, guys, How can we help you in
any way? We are your free coaches today. Well fantastic um.
As as I kind of wrote in UM March of
twenty twenty, we actually adopted or in the process of adopting,

(01:04:22):
two children. We m We got a call in January
UM and forty eight hours later our son had come
up from college. We have an adult sign and we
were on our way up to Virginia, about a twelve
hour drive to go meet the young man that we
found out was was available for for an adoption, and

(01:04:45):
we met him his birth mother and his sister as well,
and instantly we just we just knew it was absolutely right. Sorry,
how old was the how old was the child? Abdul
had just turned five years old and his little sister
was still three, about to be four actually, um, And

(01:05:10):
so we we bet and we kind of started the
process and their their birth mother then suggested or kind
of threw it out there of would you like to
would you like to have Asha to come live with
you as well temporarily temporarily, you know kind of thing,
and we kind of understood that it was going to
grow into keeping the children together and a brother sister adoption,

(01:05:34):
and that's exactly what happened. And of course there's a
you know, there's a pretty long story and all kinds
of details, but you know, that's right when the pandemic
and shut down hit and everything, which was a blessing
and some challenges at the same time, and you know,
but it gave us a chance to bond and grow

(01:05:54):
as a family and our son ab Duel is um.
We found out, you know, we went through the testing process,
but he is actually UM on the autism spectrum and
he's UM, you know, he's he's relatively high functioning UM
and he's you know, been able to be a part

(01:06:15):
of the neurotypical classroom and all that fun stuff. But
it has presented some some craziness and some some fun
and challenges. But we've also have a fantastic network of
people around us and UM, some groups through our church
and just various things UM that have particularly helped with
with that. But specifically, what we wanted to kind of

(01:06:38):
throw out at you guys, and knowing a little bit
about Donald's background, UM, the reason I kind of reached
out is we are you know, white Caucasian parents and
both of our children are of mixed ethnicity. They are
African American and Hispanic and Middle East, and so I

(01:06:59):
wanted to kind of throw throw out some thoughts about
blended families as far as ethnicity goes, UM, maybe some
thoughts or challenges that have that have gone on there.
And kind of the second part is, UM, you know,
with the world, that's UM that's kind of gone on

(01:07:20):
and you know, I mean America has always had trouble
with with racial and ethnical relations. But of course it's
been um magnified in our eyes, UM over the last
year and a half, just becoming aware in a different way,
and you know, just as as white parents, you know,
being able to not just um love our children wholeheartedly

(01:07:45):
and completely, just like we would with every child, but
also understanding you know, what does it mean to be um?
You know, what does it mean to be black in
America today? And how can we help them see that experience?
Honor that, my guess is the best. Wow before Donald

(01:08:12):
and h and Joel answer that better uh than uh
than Dane, and I think I could. I just wanted
to say, it's it's so impressive what you've taken on
adopting two children who who really needed a family, especially
now you learn that your son has special needs. Uh,
it's it's it's a real testament to the kind of
people you are. And uh I I I had tears

(01:08:34):
in my eyes just listening to you talk, and so
I I on behalf of the I'm sure so many
people that are listening. Uh, it's it's beautiful that you've
done what you've done and saved lives. Maybe figuratively but
maybe literally, who knows. But I just think it's really
I think it's beautiful what you've done. Um and and
also not to plug my movie, but this is in

(01:08:54):
a comedic way, In a comedic way, this is what
Cheaper by the Dozens about. Gabrielle Union and I are
a black and white couple, and I don't you don't
know anything about having black children. And and she's got
an ex husband who's who wants the kids to be
raised around them him, but he's never around anyway. You're
gonna love the movie when it comes out. Also, but
Donald and Joel, what would you do? You do you

(01:09:15):
have any thoughts for them? How would you speak to
how How does a pair of Caucasian parents make sure
that a mixed race child is getting exposed to the
right things that they should be exposed to. The great
thing is is that whereas in the past there weren't
great examples, there are a lot of great examples of
actors mentioned one a Cheaper by the Dozen movie, there's
a lot of examples of blended families. As far as

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the African American experience right now, as much knowledge as
you can give your son about his ancestors. And now
I don't mean his blood to his mom and stuff
like that. I mean like where he comes from. That's

(01:09:58):
really important how he he got here. As long as
he is given or she is given the truth about
who they are, their blackness all, you know, as long
as that is handed to them, they will have so
much power and so much knowledge to take out into
the world with. I think knowledge of self is very important,

(01:10:19):
and I would assume and I would I would assume
find ways in your community, whether it's through your church
or through children's groups, whatever you can find that that
put them around other children that are like them. I
don't know what your town is like, but make sure
that they're around other children of lots of different ethnicities,
so they're not just growing up in a in a

(01:10:39):
super Caucasian environmental environment. Yeah, you know, I grew up
in a very diverse community. I grew up in house Kitchen,
New York City, and it's it wasn't just black people.
There were Spanish, Russian, Jewish, Muslim. I mean, it just
was like a it's been melting. Everything's right, it's everything.

(01:11:03):
And I feel like I understand a lot of people,
the people in my community because we were all we
were exposed to everything, you know what I mean everywhere
I got to see everything. I got to see Hanaka
with my friends, or kin Signetta with my other friends,
you know what I mean. Like, it's just I got
to experience different religions and different backgrounds. And so I

(01:11:24):
think community building with the kids. I think that's a big, big, big,
big part of creating confidence in them as well. I
have well three three real quick tips. Uh. One, make
sure they have toys that look like them, and then
think those toys really well you know, um, I think

(01:11:45):
that's really vital. Actually have mixed dolls too, if you
seek them out. I only know because they were obviously
props in our film that I was. You know, Yeah,
that's okay. Uh. To make sure they know that they're beautiful.
A lot of black kids think they're ugly. It's really sad.
There are tons of studies on this. It seems a

(01:12:07):
small thing, but it's really really big. And then three,
I'm neuro divergent as well, so I can totally empathize
and I would say, just be a total warrior when
it comes to their teachers, particularly with your son. You know,
I have a brother and it was just really a
struggle for him in school. He was the only black
kid in his class and sweetest kid ever, but the

(01:12:31):
community didn't know that, and it took them a really
long time to figure that out, and it was really
really hard. So just make sure the teacher knows that
you know your children and that you know them, and
that you're watching and you're aware so that you can
protect them when they're out in the world. And then
one last thing, finally, just make sure they have adults

(01:12:51):
of their same ethnicity engaging in their lives throughout because,
like Donald was saying, you know, community is really good.
There's also so much that you know, as like a
young black kid growing up in a white community, I
didn't know until I got older about just like how
other black people engage with each other and things like that.
That would have been really great to know what it's

(01:13:12):
a black nod and why is it happening, and why
is it important that I reciprocate that black nod? What
does that mean? So and there's just things that you
won't be able to teach them about that culture. And so, yeah,
you know, just those things I think obviously you've already
given them so much love and my very first step.
I can't sit here and be like and make sure

(01:13:32):
it comes from love, because it's clear that you love
your children. It's oh, you know what I mean, you
have any idea, you know, you're starting from an amazing place.
By the way, even the idea to ask the question
and not just say you know. I think it's just
so important that you came on. I mean, not that
we're specialists, but that you're asking. And I'm sure you're

(01:13:53):
asking true specialists too, but even the fact that you're
engaging in in wanting to do this, I think is
a great step. And and you'll continue to find resources
I'm sure in your community and I'm sure online that
can that can help. Sorry, no, absolutely, I think the
big word is the community word that seems to kind
of come through over and over again. Um. And I

(01:14:17):
definitely appreciate the perspectives because sometimes when you ask questions,
and I appreciate your your your confidence building or your
reassurance was saying that's act. But sometimes when you ask questions, UM,
you want to make sure you don't want to be
offensive when you ask a question. Does that make sense? Yes,
of course, But also you know we have a warped perspective. Well,

(01:14:39):
I should say I can't speak for all, I can
speak for Donald and I we have a warped perspective
because we've spent our lives in New York City and
Los Angeles, and I think that we often have to,
you know, recalibrate. For I have no idea what South
Atlanta is like. But you know what I mean, Like,
I listened from the point of view of growing up

(01:15:00):
in North Jersey, which is a lot like New York
and in LA and Chicago where I went to school,
so I have to always go I have no idea
what your community is like. And so if you're if
for example, you're in an all white community or predominantly
white community, it would be super important for you, like
to maybe find an African American mentor older teenager that

(01:15:22):
could be in his or her life, or you know,
something like that, or if it just happens naturally at church,
that's great. But you know, it's it's all about you know, community,
It really at the end of the day, it really is,
you know what I mean. And you know, when your
child's older and goes to college and or goes out
in life and everything like that when it's bait. When

(01:15:42):
you have a very strong foundation, You guys know this.
Everybody knows this. When you have a great, strong, strong foundation,
it's easy to thrive regardless of your It's I should say,
it's easier to strive regardless of your regardless of your background,
because you have people that are there to support support

(01:16:04):
a lot with with real support, a lot of a
lot of hurdles and obstacles can be tackled and or removed.
That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I was trying to
shift it back to a comedic tone. Um, you guys,
are you guys? You a dick man? Straight up? You

(01:16:26):
dick tongue you dick yo tongue tongue Yo, dick tongue,
dick tongue. Yeo. On that note, um from Live from
twenty yars and dick tongue. Listen, it would make a
great couple, great couple, couple, A lot of nice kisses

(01:16:49):
in that ear. Listen. We love you guys, You're incredible people,
and thank you for being You just restored, you single
handedly restored my faith in humanity. Oh well, what Tina,
don't cancel it out because no, no, no, I didn't

(01:17:10):
want to interrupt you earlier, but you had said something
about Stephen, and I'm going to tell you right now
that is these little people coming into our lives has
been truly the most humbling experience of my personal life.
And I cannot be more grateful for absolutely, for what
what these guys have taught us, um and I am

(01:17:31):
so damn grateful to be a part of their journey.
So well, I'm still allowed to say that you're a
pretty incredible person if you don't really, Okay, But my
point to you is, I really feel like from our perspective,
that's that's how we feel. I mean, it's I think
that's beautiful. But I also think from my perspective, I
love you. No. Two adults who raised an adult child

(01:17:54):
who then had an epiphany that they were going to
take on adopting young children. One of them has is
on the spectrum, and not only are you doing it
well obviously with so much love, but you're like, how
can we do it better? I just think you're incredible people.
And you know, sometimes you go on the interwebs and
you're like, and you look at what's happening on earth,
and you think humanity is fucked, and then you meet

(01:18:16):
Trina and Stephen and you feel good again, like, yoh,
did y'all see what happened in London and Italy and
how London lost? But how to two black players miss
the goals and how they're getting death threats and stuff?
Right now, it's yeah, let's not think about that and
think about how beautiful Stephen and Trina are. Okay, my bed,
we we appreciate sick lifts. You know, I'm protesting, but

(01:18:43):
I can't help it. I can't but help protesting, but
I can't help hitting the clapmoise is. Thank you very much, guys. Hey,
you're welcome to appreciate it. Hey, you're welcome. Thank you
for coming on. We appreciate you. Thank you, guys. We'll
see future. Be well by guys. Bye, bye, lovely people.

(01:19:06):
I think that's the first time the guests we're like,
we want to get on. I think you don't clearly
their church going people, and you went into another round
of dick the twat ears and they're like, well, we're
gonna get going. We're gonna get going. We have a
church group. If they're gonna their friends, they're gonna tell

(01:19:30):
their friends that are on the show, and they're not
gonna be They're gonna be like we didn't it didn't happen.
Their real names are probably Carl and Cindy. All right ahead, ahead,
all right, listen, we love you all. Be kind, be kind,
beat like those people there. I'm not saying you have
to take on what they took on and go adopt
young children in need, but be nice to each other.

(01:19:54):
It's so easy to be nice. Fucking mean, It's so
easy to be kind, right, Joel, Yes, it's always easier
to be kind. Even though I had one of those
days where I was a hater, at the end of
the day, it just was so easy. It was so
much easier to be don't you hate everybody? And when
you get the opportunity, check out Zack's guns because he

(01:20:17):
just flex for us was that they're not going to
get the opportunity because this isn't on the intergrams. But
you gotta put you gotta put this the arm on
the interwebs. Maybe for us, I'll slide into your DM,
but your mom, Joel, can I respond to your mom
with a with a bicep picture? Very confused, but you can, Joel.

(01:20:37):
He he's got abs, yo, He's got like real deal.
Holy feel abs like I know. I only sent them
to Donald, but he told me to stop because he
was feeling shifting movement. There was a little bit of movement, man,
and it felt weird. All right, listen, we love you,
be kind to each other. Here is the incredible Josh
Raden with a beautiful song called these Photographs. You see

(01:21:04):
him lane as you drift from the bed and your romance,
so it cuts moment pass its amountable as you get
out the car. The way you read me no one

(01:21:28):
can't see means through your heart. The horest keep me
a light gives your side. Being too too long to

(01:21:59):
fight in your life my best surprise. You need a
smile when you talk on the phone, you sing to

(01:22:19):
me un along alone. You're marry assa what people tell
you you're not. You're like a child all the while
meet you lie. These fulgrass gave me a lie. They

(01:22:55):
is your soul be too too long to find in
your life, My best bride. I want to know what

(01:23:20):
you know. I want to go where you go. These
things remind me up. These things remind me up, These
things remind me You use your soul be too too

(01:24:00):
long to find in your life, my detrikes