607: His Story IV

On this week's episode, Dr. Kelso learns how his presence impacts the hospital and Scrubs gets political. In the real world, it's Zach's BIRTHDAY! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday.
The morning day has hashed, he surprised me last I'm
saying all this day, how what happened? Well, I can't
feel a word in edgewise. Is my singing? Is that way?

(00:27):
I had a Really I was not Did you wake
up and take a bath? Oh my god, I wasn't expecting.
Did you have a great laugh. I gotta get organized
now because I had so much to talk and you drive.
I hope you don't crash. Happy birthday, Zach birth Happy
birthday to you, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. What you didn't

(00:53):
like that? It was about it was about thirty minutes
too long. And I was all excited. I had all
my papers and my buttons ready, and and then I
had a computer problem. So I'm Amanda Clutes. My best
buddy took me to a Paul Simon tribute concert last night.

(01:14):
That's gonna air. The Grammy's honored Paul Simon, and they
threw this thing where like performers of all different levels
of notoriety performed up to Stevie wonder As like the
Grand Finale. But Dave Matthews, I mean, it was incredible
it's going to air on CBS. Um. But and then
Paul Simon got up at the end and played and

(01:36):
it was amazing. But before that, she goes, um, first,
we're going to dinner, and we're gonna go to dinner
at the sushi places across the street from the theater.
Actually she didn't even tell me that. She goes and
taking you to dinner. So we go to Katsuya, which
is right across from the Pantagious and I go oh.
I was like the first surprise, like, oh, we're getting sushi. Cool,
cool cool. We walk in and you know, this restaurant

(01:57):
has these um these little room lit hidden rooms with
tables where the curtains can be closed. You can have
like a private chili, private dinner go on. And as
I walk in, it was like out of Annie. It
was like out of Annie. The you know in the
Annie movie how the staff is all lined up at
the welcoming Annie. Yes, it was a bit like that.

(02:19):
And they spread a curtain to reveal Donald and Casey
already seated at the table. I think I'm gonna like it.
And then we saw the show and then um, did
you know what the grand finale surprise was Donald before
did I tell you or did you know? I knew already.

(02:41):
I knew that well a Manda knows. I'm obsessed with
Ben Platt um as a singer performer and uh we
got to talk about that memorium at the Grammys because
that was just unbelievable and um. But anyway, after the show,
she said, we have one final thing and we went
to get a drink and then we went to this
bar and our mutual friend Catherine Gallagher who's a Broadway star,

(03:04):
UM and Ben Platt were there waiting for us for
a drink. Oh my god, you have good friends. Ye
crushed it, dude, that's crushing. She got the birthday she
went all out. I went. I went from Donald Phazon
to Stevie Wonder to Ben Platt, well who else saying
at the Paul Simon thing other than Stevie Wonder? Um um.

(03:26):
Lots of country stars who are super famous whose names
I don't know. I'm apologized to country fans, but like
the biggest country stars Brooks, I'm saying, um, um, you
could probably google it due will you look it up?
And some of these names do you know this? Um? Uh?
Take six this Uh African American. Are you fucking kidding

(03:47):
me right now? Zach? What are you fucking kidding me
right now? Are you really asking me if I know
who takes six is all right? Well I'm telling you
take six? Oh my god, Oh my god, are you
really asking me if I know who takes six is
all right? Well? I didn't know that Takes six was
that famous. They sang some Paul Simon stuff and it
was one of the most beautiful things I ever heard
in my life. They sang from the Gracelin album. They

(04:11):
heard it takes six. Sorry, calm down, you know that
Zulu song it's in Graceland. It's like, uh, I don't.
I don't even want to. I want to try anyway.
There's a Zulu song that's on the Gracelan album that
starts one of the songs, and these guys rushed it.
It was the most beautiful, goose bumpy thing you'll see.
I'm giving these people an ad. You have to watch this. Um.

(04:33):
It was so beautiful. I wanted to see Take six
sing every pulse. So you can go back to when
we were in like the nineties and everything like that
and take Were they a boy been or were they
They were They were an acapella group of gospel acapella.
Gospel acapella group. Brian McKnight's brother is in Take six.
Brian McKnight. Ben became a very h He's a big

(04:55):
time R and B singer. You might have heard. He
has some of the greatest songs, My Last Cry, one
last cry before I leave Right anyway, Take six used
to sing back in the day like Take six has
been around forever. Take six was amazing. Um, Chris Stapleton
was there, Uh, Stevie wants in did a couple songs

(05:17):
with There was a young lady. I wish I could
dwell if you can find this, No, maybe it's not published.
I gotta ask Amanda if you know this, I'll text
her right now. Who's the young lady that sings? But
it was right on time because she performed at that
thing too. But anyway, let's talk for a second about

(05:39):
the Grammys memorium. Did you guys see this? It was amazing.
You did not watch the Grammys? It was there was
a memorial. So I'll let Zach tell the story. But
I feel like every year that's the thing that they
You know, sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad, but you
always want to do a great dedication to the people

(06:01):
who passed away. And they really figured it out this year.
At the Grammys they had four Broadway stars. Um, I
guess Rachel's well, not just not just Broadway stars, like
just triple threats, also dancers, actors like no. But I'm saying, okay,
so Brad, Brandy Carlyle, Brad, Yeah, Brandy Carlisle, I'm saying
they were at the they performed last night. I know

(06:22):
That's what I was gonna say. Brandy Carlisle was at
the Paul Simon, Brad Paisley did a couple of songs.
Garth Brooks, Um, Brandy Carlile is the want to sing right?
What's Brooks's time of wife or girlfriend's name? She's a
famous country singer. She performed with him. Um, I apologize
to the country loving community. I don't know this music

(06:43):
at all, but they were. They sang beautifully. Did came
Brown perform with him? Yearwood? Yea, Trisha Yearwood. Trisha Yearwood. Yes, Um,
she excuse me, she could sing. They both were. It
was amazing. You know what's funny is they would Garth
was amazing because it was taped. They would occasionally all
fuck up and Garth Brooks stops and he goes, what
did I tell you? Baby? I told you if we

(07:04):
just stopped singing, if we mess up, they can't use it.
So we're gonna start over. It's really funny and uh
and then O. Then then he was the first person
to do that, like on his own. But then other
times someone would perform would be amazing. It would be
like it would be like Stevie Wonder doing a number
that with this with this singer whose name I'm getting

(07:24):
a man that attects me because I didn't know who
she is, but she had the most incredible voice. And
then they'd be like, hey, want to go again, and
Stevie's like, yeah, I hit a wrong note or something,
and and then you'd get to hear the song again.
It was like Take two it was so cool. Um,
but Take six, believe or not, with all these celebrities,
Take six was blew my mind the most. That's awesome
Take six And I'm so happy that you have been

(07:47):
introduced to Take six. You can go listen to some
Take six. You can find him on iTunes, I'm sure. Anyway,
So the Grammys did a memorium and all the idea.
It was a sort of sound him mash up. I
learned through Ben Platt, who was one of the four people.
It was him, Cynthia Arrivo, and Rachel Zegler, the star

(08:08):
of West Side Story. I'm Maria, who I believe is
the new snow White shouting right now. Anyway, the four
of them have preposterous voices. I learned that Leslie Odom
Junior's arranger is the one who arranged it, and it
was sort of this mashup of three famous Sondheim songs,

(08:29):
but it was so beautifully interwoven, right Donald, I was
like crying my eyes out. And and if you saw
West Side Story, you saw that they changed Spielberg changed
it up. And There's a Place for Us, which is
one of the most famous beautiful love songs duets in
the movie, was not sung by the couple, and that

(08:53):
was his choice, and it was beautiful still, but you
never got to hear Rachel's sing it. And in this
sort of beautiful memorium, she sang it with Leslie Odom
Junior and in man was it beautiful? You can probably
find it on the YouTube's I highly recommend it, but
Cynthia Revo singing send in the clown, Send in the clown.

(09:13):
I mean, Cynthia Revo sick voice. Come on, you know that?
Do you know that? When we when Nick died, Um,
I don't know if I told you the story, but
we had a little memorial in my garden, very small,
and Nick loved Cynthia Rivo loved the Color Purple, which
is what broke herd made her famous, the musical version

(09:34):
and which I know they were now making into a movie,
which I'm sure she'll start. And because she's I just
hope they put I just hope they put Quincy Jones's sister.
Of course they would have been that's not on the Broadway.
That's not on the Broadway show. But okay, okay, anyway,
Um she A man reached out to her because Nick
loved her so much, and she came and sang her

(09:56):
song from Color Purple in my Garden with like twenty people,
And I remember because the garden was in full bloom,
and she was like we were all picking cherry tomatoes
off the vine. And she's just the kind of sweetheart,
amazing person that would do that without even really knowing
Nick without even really knowing Amanda, And now I know
her a little bit and she's just an angel and

(10:16):
her voice is sickest, sickest, and Leslie's voice, Oh my god.
Yeah yeah, all right, So I'm telling you if you
haven't seen that, go go find it on the youtubees.
It was beautiful. Should we get into the shows? Hey? No,
I have more to say. No, no, no, a movie
recommendation and now Donald's not gonna love this movie because
it doesn't have um lasers. But um, no one, no

(10:42):
one throws a spell. Um, it's it's cast, cast no one. Cast.
I was talking to my nephew, by the way, Daniel,
is it right if I give Henry your number? My nephew?
Because of course he asked, he's so into this fucking
get what is it? Elden Rain Jelden Oh, elden Ring Ring. Yes, baby,

(11:04):
And he says, I have no one to talk about
it with. Do you think that Daniel would mind if
I if I had his number? Can I ask a question,
Let's get is elden Ring worth the hype similar to Zelda? No?
I would say it's similar to Zelda. Is Zelda was
like really evil? If Zelda was super dark. The world

(11:26):
of Zelda was super dark and all the enemies were
wastecarier than it's like Zelda. But are you walking around?
Is it third is it overhead? Like Zelda? It is
a third person adventure game where you're walking around an
open world and it's really hard, apparently, right, really really
he said he tried to be the boss sixty five
times or something, and that's like, it's about right, do

(11:47):
you get more? So? But do you gain ep and
get weapons? Is that what happened towards it? Just this
is going to be the game for the whole game
a little bit. This is a longer This is a
longer conversation. I was trying to keep it shut, but
it is. It's a very popular game right now, right
super sounds probably twenty two probably, Okay. It's another game

(12:07):
that I think Donald would really like that. People are
talking about Lego Star Wars. Oh man, do you like that?
I hear it. I hear it looks amazing. I I
own it. I haven't had the chance to play it yet, Dani,
find some time, because it is incredible. It's amazing. It's
what makes it different than the other Lego games, Daniel,

(12:29):
I think I think more than anything, it really um.
It maintains the humor and the style of all the
other Legos Lego series of games. They have a great
job of like keeping the source material accurate, but also
adding a really nice sense of humor that you see
in like the Lego movies and whatnot that makes it
really fun and enjoyable. It's the smoothest game play, it's
the best looking graphics. It's just like a nice upgrade

(12:51):
to the whole Lego series, And like for anybody who's
played any of the Lego Star Wars games, it maintains
that character and delivers one hundred percent. So well, that's
a really good review. So those the two hot games
of the moment. Is that right down now? Will you
be twitching either one of those? You twitch elden Ring.
I do twitch elden Ring, and I get very mad
at it because it's very difficult. I saw that you

(13:11):
dumb it down? Can you turn it down a little
bit difficult? I saw that Sasha Gray um twitches it
and um, so you have some competition there, but a
lot of people would rather watch Sasha Gray play no
offense than they most certainly would know. She's very good.
She's very very good. Yeah, because she's a good player,
or she just she's good. She's good. Oh, she's a

(13:34):
good player. Yeah, she's a really good player. And she's
good cook too. She also cooks. Yeah, her stream is
top shelf. Ok here, you might not want to tell
people how often you watch. All right, let's get in
the show. Five six stories about show we made about stories. Yeah, yeah,

(14:08):
m all right, let's get the show. I know what
I wanted to say before last thing before we get
in the show. Your movie movies, not my movie. This
movie that I really really liked. Highly recommend it one
best foreign film I believe. Um. I finally saw it.
Um The Worst Person in the World. Oh, okay, I
highly recommend you watch this if you like reading. No,

(14:32):
it does have subtitles, but come on, you all loved um.
You all loved um. Squid Game. I don't watched squid Gaming.
Had to read? Oh I really think I think you
had to read. Okay, Well, if you can handle subtitles,
if you like squid Game, if you liked Parasite, what
was that that popular Korean movie? Par okay to read? Yeah,

(14:56):
I didn't like it. Okay, Well, if you're unlike Donald,
then can handle some subtitles. I think, um, I'm just
won in the World is one of the best movies
I've seen in a very long and if you like
similar movies like like I'm like UM, I guarantee you'll
love it. There's some incredible acting and I like to read.
I've seen a Kira several times. Okay, is they're reading

(15:18):
in Akira? Okay? By the way, I want to debut
a new sound effect that we have. No no, this
is um straight hut off the presses, Daniel, I need
your help in figuring out how to get this into
my system. No problem, but for now, here's a test.
Everybody likes a little ass play. Don't even act like

(15:39):
you don't you know? That's a good one. That's how
we're going to introduce guests from now. Do you look
at the email I tell you don this guy Donald
and I did a did a charity. Jake Tapper does
this tell you guys about But I'd let him No,

(16:03):
no, no no, no, no, you tell the whole story because
it's worth it. Jake Tapper, the news anchor on CNN,
does this amazing charity where he raises money for wounded
warriors and auctions off anything and everything from celebrities, including
a half hour zoom. So we auctioned off a half
hour m for for wounded warriors of just shooting the
ship with Donald and I. And this guy was very

(16:26):
interesting and he's very smart, and he's a developer up
in Seattle, and he and he was he was talking
about all the dating apps, and he had done a
lot of research and saying and in determining whether he
was getting less results because of the color of his
skin and um, and so to try and do an experiment,

(16:49):
and he knew a lot of game developers and he
knew a lot of people to do an experiment, he
asked his game video game developer friends to make himself white,
like reverse soul. Yeah, like reverse soul man. And and
then he's planned, I got this. I'm gonna show you
guys that're gonna hold up my phone so you can

(17:09):
see the picture. His plan, his plan was to um,
was to to to just you would, you know, kind
of do an experiment and see if he got better
results as a as a white male UM. But then
the results came back in and he said they need
his friends need to go back to the drawing board

(17:30):
because oh no, he made an ugly white male he said, yeah,
he said he was very handsomer. Uh um whatever and
uh and and his video game development friends didn't really
nail it. I'm trying to he's bald. Guys so automatically,

(17:52):
like black man can usually pull off bald or clothes
much better. Uh So it doesn't feel right. It was
just funny. And then Donald and I came up with
a whole movie idea where it's like, what was it
I'm trying to We took his whole thing. We were like,
I'm newly single and in the dating world, Yeah, I'm
having a hard time getting dates right. And it's a

(18:13):
little bit like Tutsie. It's a little bit of like
full little Tutsie in where so you know, because remember
in Tutsie he had a makeup artist genius prosthetic makeup
artist friend. So if this guy's got video game developer friends, right,
and he realizes that he's not getting the hits he wants,
so he tries this experiment, but then he meets a
woman who thinks he's this white guy and how it's

(18:36):
like in the metaverse because this guy, that's what this
guy did. He did like, oh yeah. Then then then
Donald added the pitch that we're giving the best pitch away.
Don't you fucking steal our movie idea? Right? But anyway, Yeah,
then Donald folded in the idea of the metaverse, and
I don't know, we got really excited for a second
that we had a genius movie idea. I'm really excited
for you. It's like, face off me. I want to

(18:59):
take his face. It's like reverse soul Man. Then, but
I don't think I don't think it. Reverse soul Man
is the best Donald to say it. Donald and I
were talking about how incredibly fucked up the movie soul
Man is. Do you guys remember that movie? Joel, do
you remember soul Man? I soul Man a very long
time ago, and I don't really remember it well. In

(19:20):
the movie the White Guy, who was it? Donald, I
think it's the dude from fucking et to one that's
like we made it and read Dawn. Yes. C Thomas Howell.
C Thomas Howell wants to get into college, but they
have affirmative action and there's and and he can't get in,
so he takes tanning pills. Tanning pills to turn him

(19:42):
into a black man. Google Google image is horrifying. Yes,
if you're listening right now, I need you to get
Google soul c Thomas Howell soul Man black face and
they mean a whole movie. What year is it, Joel.
I can't believe it. Eighties. It's so cringey. It's so crazy. Yes,

(20:02):
and it was totally acceptable. And yeah, Masses as a
black man. I remember being on HBO and all of
that ship. I remember all this. I remember, I remember
soul Man ray Don Chong. I remember ray Don Chong
was in it, and she falls in love with him
until she realizes that he's taking tang pills and isn't
really an African American. H God, the Great James Earl

(20:27):
Jones and Leslie Nielsen are in this movie. How did
this happen? Yeah? I don't know. All right, let's get
into the show showey. I just have to tell you
this episode was crazy. This was like Bill trying to
be all in the family because this got really political.
Um it's a very red and blue episode. We're talking
about his story. Uh two um. Directed by Linda Mendoza.

(20:51):
Great job, by the way, Linda, great job. One of
our favorite filmmakers who directed the show, and um mikey
Wet stars and our old friend Michael Weston who when
I first Michael Weston, I met on a movie called
Getting to Know You. It was my first real part
in a movie. It was a tiny little indie and

(21:13):
he had actually gone to Northwestern coincidentally, but we didn't
know each other. And um, as all the finest actors
have and um and and we became friends if you
remember in Garden State's he plays the cop that pulls
me over and and on my motorcycle and um and
and then we were when I moved out to La
we were roommates, um um in a house together. Anyway.

(21:36):
Um So, Michael Weston guest stars as a private dancer.
Why is a private dancer in a veterans hospital? Was
my first question. This is scrubs, man. We have we
have a bunch of different people in the hospital. We
break the rules something how how to the todd occasionally
does breast augmentation when when he wouldn't be doing that? Right? Okay,

(21:59):
well we got we've got a wounded soldier in our hospital. Yes,
at the first bed too. I don't know why I
don't know why, but that's all right. Scrubs the TV show,
So yeah, I couldn't help but think of All in
the Family while watching this, because All in the Family,
for those of you too young to know, was a
comedy that like really brazenly took on politics and all

(22:20):
the issues of the time, Racism, Democrats, first Republicans, the wars,
and Archie Bunker was this crotchety, very conservative old white
man and his son in law was a very liberal
played by Rob Ryner. He called him Meathead, and he
was as liberal as can be. He was a hippie
at the time of the show. And anyway, when I

(22:44):
was watching this Scrubs all of a sudden getting very
political about the Iraq War, I couldn't help but think
that this was like, I don't know, Bill trying to
have a sort of All in the Family episode where
we actually went there politically about the war, about the
Iraq War. No, yeah, absolutely, but that's it's also the
B storyline two, which is which is it's the it?

(23:06):
I know it takes place. What do you think the
storyline A story is Kelso is Kelso, Yeah, that's actually
the A storyline. So the backdrop in all of this
is that you know, he he he feels that he's
obsolete in the hospital and he's witnessing you know what

(23:27):
this uh, what Private Dancer is bringing to the hospital
because he's a he's a veteran from the Iraq War.
And it reveals, it reveals so much, reveals Elliot's a Republican,
it reveals you know, I mean, there's there's there's there's
so much involved in it. But the a storyline is
Kelso feels like the hospital's falling apart because of what

(23:49):
he's witnessing, and actually it's not. Everybody's still able to
do their jobs. It's a really good it's a really
good uh theme if you think about it, Like we
we as Americans right now, we freaking go at it
with each other just over our belief and stuff like that,

(24:11):
and sometimes it makes it so that we can't get
the job done. And this was a great example of
a hospital being in a situation where everybody has different beliefs,
but they still are able to accomplish their one common
goal and that is to say, well until it until
it takes over the hospital. And if to remind people,

(24:31):
this is the one where Kelso has the voice over.
It's one of those ones where I'm not in it
that much. I bump into Kelso and he takes the
voice over over, and then you're on vacation pretty much
for the rest of the episode. Well, I was in
the park reading Iraq War for Dummies. Yeah, by the way,
I will get to it. But the janitor predicted where

(24:51):
bin Laden was. Yeah, sorry spoilers, but this is long
before we found bin Laden. And the episode ends with
the janitor saying, been latins in Pakistan? Yeah, so don't
I don't think we weren't geniuses. Wow, we were ahead
of the game. Yeah, Well, whoever wrote that line was?
I wonder which writer wrote that line. Um Joel wanted

(25:15):
to point out that UM calling your calling, um Joel,
is this am I correcting your interpretation? That calling Carla
pickle so that I can be able to call the
baby little girkin doesn't make sense because ghirkins are made
from baby cucumbers. Nobody doesn't make sense. I just had

(25:35):
no idea what a gherkin was. What's a pickle? Is
a pickle related to a cucumber? Yeah? I think it
was a full blown cucumber. That's just been soaked in vinegar. Okay, okay,
I thought you were saying that a pickle wasn't a cucumber. No,
just that I like girkins. Do you guys like ghirkins?
I love you. Don't like pickles at all? Period. Don't

(25:58):
show me a pickle. I And which weird is I
like some pickled vegetables like I love a pickled carrot,
pickled cabbage, pickled cabbage, Like I like a kim chi
that's fermented. Yeah, I like I like it, I like
it more or less the same thing. Well, yeah, I
guess so, I guess so. Yeah, I guess you could

(26:19):
the many carrots in the bagkins like that for a pickle. Yeah,
I like that. Yeah, someone should make um a bag
of those things. My good idea today. That's a great
little snack with a little dip too, a little nice
little dip. My reverse soul man, just giving it to
the world. Reverse soul man. There's so many things to

(26:47):
unpack with reverse soul man. Um, well, kelso black man
who tries to be white reverse soul man. Well, anyway,
he didn't could never do it funnier than any un Saturday. No,
that's that's that's probably the best version of it. So
Kelso doesn't want to he's phoning it in. He doesn't

(27:07):
learn the interns names. He says, the man will be
Debbie Dave and the woman will be Debbie, and the
girl's young woman says, well, that's gonna be my name
is Debbie. He goes, well, then you shall be Slagathor.
Slagathor is actually slag of Thor's played by Lindsay Ravage.
Her husband is Andy Schwartz, who was a writer on
the show. Yes, they have a son named Quincy, who

(27:28):
went to Sunnyside with my daughter Wilder. Actually, so you've
hung out with Slagerthor since the show? Oh? Absolutely, we've
hung out a few times. Were you tempted to call her? No?
Because I forgot that she was on the show. When
I first met her, I was donald, I'm it's me.

(27:56):
I was like, because I knew we worked I knew
we worked together on Scrubs, but I didn't know that
she played Slagathor. I just thought she played one of
the interns. So when I saw her, I wasn't like, hey,
you were slag a Thor. So it's never come up
that she was slagathor. But now that I now that
I know that she was slag of Thorne, next time
I see her, Yeah, and I think he calls her

(28:18):
Slaggy later slaggy. Um. So we this is interesting Kelso?
Oh yeah. So it's then Ted is used as a
human eight ball, which was funny. That ship was hilarious.
And then he goes and he goes ask again, later,
would I do that? He shakes his head again. Yeah,

(28:43):
and Ken really let him have it. Yeah, he went
at it well, Ken carry And the first thing I
thought when he picked up the age and lady in
the in the that's the officer and gentleman's spoof. Do
you know that? Yes, I know, I knew that. We

(29:04):
don't say yet. Wait, was Kelso in Vietnam or Korea?
I think it's the Korean War he's in. He wants
to stay. He wanted to stay. Okay, check age wise,
I think it would be it would it would probably
be Vietnam. Okay, so Vietnam, but he wants to stay

(29:27):
in Vietnam. But first that was his fantasy to stay
in Vietnam because he thought this would happen Vietnam. Okay, Well, Kelso,
first imagines if he stayed in Vietnam that and then
we going to an officer and a Gentleman spoof. For
those of you haven't seen it, it's a famous Richard

(29:49):
Gear Debra Winger movie. And he comes in at the
end and picks her up and in uniform, and it's
he's super sexy. Way to go, Paula, Yeah, way to go. Yeah.
I don't know if it holds up, but it was
a great movie. I remember when I was a kid,
I just loved the steamy shower scene where they're having sex.
I thought that was the best. There was a hot
sex scene right in the shower, and there was some

(30:11):
great music. Love lifts us up where we But that
was the actual theme song to the movie, like played
by guitar, piano, you name it right, they played. The
theme of the movie is these guys were in the
Navy and they want to be pilots for the Navy. Yeah,
and they it's the training that you have to go through. Uh.

(30:33):
And and the sergeant played by Lewis cass And Junior.
He won an Academy Award for this movie, by the way, Uh,
masterful job. But uh, it's it's such a great movie.
If you ever get the chance to be allowed to
play thirty seconds of Love Lifts Us Up? Yeah, just
talk about it. It's such a so the theme song

(30:54):
of the movie is Love Lifts Us Up, Love lift
us Up where we belong, but they actually play it
throughout the movie as a score as well. Do you
remember this, Donald, of course we're talking about it. You well,

(31:15):
we're analyzing and talking about it tomorrow. Jennifer Warrens and
Joe Corner who girl gets to the chorus could cut it,

(31:36):
damn anyway, Um, listen, guys, you should watch Officer and Gentleman.
Donald just convinced me that it's a good movie. You
should watch. Well, I mean it has it has an
Academy Award winning performance and it not. I remember the
scene in the pool where they're training them how to
survive if you're when your fighter jet goes under water. Yeah,
it's good. Yeah, anyway, So that's what if you're confused

(31:57):
by Kelso's double fantasy, it's they're both related to Officer
and Gentleman. Now it's way more trippy and bizarre. When
the Vietnamese woman than he's in love with it comes
and picks him up in the ICU. Yes. Now, do
you think that young woman was strong enough or is
absolutely absolutely yes? Because I was. I was surprised that

(32:20):
Ken was strong enough to pick her up, to be
honest with you, but was light. But Ken, I mean
she picked Ken up and held him in like a baby.
Kim picked her up like she Kim picked Kim picked
her up like she was a feather. It was just
like she hopped into his arms and she did the
same thing in the In the show, it's sung in
the viet Vietnamese version, which I don't know the place.

(32:44):
Play some more of it. Let's play thirty more seconds
of it? Or was it one per show? I don't
know what the fucking rules are. We talk over this
one a little bit more, Okay, so I get a
later point in the song. Yeah, I don't have the
Vietnamese version to the Love Lit This is where it goes.

(33:10):
But it's Joe Cocker over Joe talking about the fuck
out of this Joe, do you think that song let's

(33:31):
played at Oh my gosh, it's great. Actually, I didn't
know it was Joe Cocker. That's one of those songs
I used to play back when I watched g I
Joe and Voltron, and they would have that as the
greatest hits that was on That's on every greatest hits
record ever made. Like if there's a if there was
a bop, you know, nineteen eighty, that song is definitely

(33:56):
on there for sure. So listen, we're gonna take a
quick break. When we come back, we're gonna talk about
Kelso actually likes j D. He admits in his voiceover.
We'll be right back. You know, so Kelseo likes JD. Huh.

(34:18):
Not only does Kelseo like JD Donald, but here it
gets more complicated than that. He he thinks, he says
this in voiceover, that he'd be great for his gaze
on Harrison, and the reason is because he happens to
know that Harrison is looking for a new power bottom.

(34:41):
Now I have multiple questions, Um, how does Kelson man?
You can't play it? You can't play it? How does Kelso?
You cannot play it? Kenny? What everybody likes a little ass?
Play everything? You cannot do? All right, But listen, once
I get that set up, I would have played it. Um,

(35:03):
how does so? Kelso seems dismissive of his son's sexuality,
But now we learned that he knows that Harrison is
indeed in search of a new power bottom. Right. I
think a lot of things went down when we found
out that the play that Harrison was actually putting on

(35:24):
was a facade. Yes, And if you think that brought
them together, I think that. I think that. I think
I think that might have built some bridges back up, uh,
in therapy and in conversation and well, what exactly is
a power bottom? Um bottom is somebody who really likes getting,

(35:46):
you know, aft in the bottom and they're out and
enthusiastic about it, and they pushed back righty like he's
very demanding about it. Yeah, Wow, I need I'm not
gonna lie. I need a power bottom in my life.
I'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't mind a little bit
of a power bottom in my life. Oh my god,

(36:08):
Casey skipped this episode this power bottom things, So Casey
Ding just kidding. If you're a power bottom out there,
congratulate you. You'd love to have you on the show
and talk about what it's like being a power bottom
and and and just just just just get to get

(36:28):
to know a power bottom. Joell, can you seek out
a power bottom? We seek out a power bottom. Yes,
it shouldn't be too hard to find. No, there's a
lot of power bottom. There are a lot of power
bottoms out there. A power bottom, a power bottom can
also be interested in other positions, right, just sometimes they
like to power bottom or they usually stereotypically just a

(36:49):
go to power bottom. The typically maybe a good two
power bottom. Okay, obviously it's a spectrum. You're like, Okay,
I got it, spectrum Kinsey scale. All right, let's get
off a power botto. Um, I just got off your
Oh god, we had we had, we had, we had

(37:10):
seen that Elliott um was showing some signs of some
Republican belief but this time she went full non believing
in global warming. She tells Laverne that she doesn't believe
in global warming as she sprays her air slayers spray
all over the place. Yes, I was surprised about that.
I wasn't because five minutes later, what happens in the cafeteria,

(37:32):
elliott is out in for being a Republican. Well, she
sort of comes out of the closet herself. She says,
I'm tired of being you know, I'm tired of not
talking about this, and then and then you know other
people come out too, Mick head of course, Keith, Yeah. Um,
so the cafeteria is split like the country. The hospital

(37:56):
is now split. The hospital, much like the country, is
uh between uh left and right, and everyone starts warring
no pun intended over the Iraq War and all sorts
of other conservative versus liberal things. Right. I want to
tread very lightly here now, because we don't want to

(38:18):
get into that. Well, no, I will say, I want
to tread very lightly because I get I get what
this episode was meant to do. But I'm gonna tell
you something right now. That's scene in the closet with
Elliott and Keith was sexy as fuck. When she goes,
when she goes, how do you feel about Hillary Clinton?

(38:39):
And she goes, I hate that bitch, and Elliott goes,
oh god, that's hot. I'm not gonna lie like that.
It was a little bit of a got a shift.
It was a little bit of a shift, and for me,
my penis went but no, I'm not. I'm not surprise

(39:00):
at Keith and Elliott um a bang in the closet
while talking shit about Democrats. That there was taboo. It
was forbidden in the closet talking about Democrats. Now this
is the episode where the jed I've talked about this
magical prop before. I thought it was a squirrel. It
turns out it's a rabbit. The janitor has made a
rabbit salt and pepper shaker. Yes, um, and I'm I'm

(39:26):
pretty sure that was a real rabbit at one point, yes,
at one point, yes, yeah, And now it's the Johnny Pepper.
Johnny O must have this prop. Johnny, I don't know
if you listen to the show, but um, i'd love
to know where that prop is, and and and and
just look at we want to Yeah, do you really
want that? I don't think I want to own it,

(39:47):
but I'd like you would preak a lot of people
out when they came over for dinner. Well, I wouldn't
use it as a as a salt and pepper shaker. Wait,
hold on, you would have a rabbit salt and pepper
shaker and not use I think I think I would
use it as nostalgia, saying Johnny O is gracious enough
to give me the funniest prop ever on Scrubs. It's

(40:09):
pretty funny. We didn't I don't believe we killed the
rabbit and they found a taxi dermy rabbit of course,
and yes, yes, yes, yes, anyway, it's a very funny
prop um, but it's showing the difference between people's ideology.
I forgot who he's talking to, but what was he

(40:31):
talking to? But whoever it is, says, you can't do that,
you can't you kill and you believe in killing animals
like hunting animals or something like that. And he says, yeah,
if it's for a good reason, and then he brings
up the rabbit salt and cup of shaker. Yeah. Yes,
it was very like I said this. It starts off

(40:52):
as the war being the background, and then it just
goes off into and to so many different things. It's
not just about red and blue. It's also about idea, idea,
how he said ide island. It's also about ideology. Like
there's just so much involved in this episode. Who wrote it?
That's what we never got to that who wrote this episode?

(41:16):
It definitely was controversial, Uh probably even at the time,
because I mean Todd has a joke where he goes
talking about women being forced to cover up in Iraq.
He says, the war in Iraq, try the war to
see Iraq. I mean that's a bit of a that's funny.

(41:40):
Mike Schwartz, Wow, all right? Who plays who plays Lonnie? Everybody? No? No? Who? Sorry?
Who plays plays the delivery guy? What's the delivery guy's name? Dude?
I don't come out, man, I don't know. I was
on the show for nine seasons. I don't remember. It
was he Um, Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd. He's the loneliest person

(42:02):
in the world. He touches his shoulder when he's the
homeless guy through poo in his eye, homeless eye, through
pooh in his eye. And we know that you like
speed metal. Forget else we know about Lloyd well who.
I love that he wanted to check to see if
who's poo They needed to check first mine or his

(42:23):
mine or his first him? Then you now, I have
a rare appearance in the episode when I come to
tell you that um that I want to see if
you've seen the funnies in the paper and um, if
you've seen Marmaduke, I'm gonna be honest with you. I
don't know how I memorize that whole run of medical

(42:44):
jargon or not. It's not even medical jargon. It's pretty
political jargon. You well, you clearly worked on it because
you did it in one take. They didn't cut you
all around you, right, I know Bill probably had to
give you like a weak warning like Donald, I don't
know how I was able going to high speech. And
I sped through it too, like the whole the whole scene,
the whole scene, Like I'm sitting there like, how did

(43:07):
iwiz did it like a rap? Because you tell me
once like if you, if you, you can memorize rap
lyrics because there's rhythm to it. This was back, This
is back when that's out every night, when I was
partying hard like this is so my mind was not
I don't know how I was able to do it.
Now it's not a problem, but back then, holy wow,

(43:28):
I was very distracted for me to be able to
do it, for me to be able to do that.
When I saw that, I was like, wow, I'm surprised
I did that. Now we talk about Marmaduke and were
thinking about Marmaduke. Then we get into the boondocks and
I say, man, that little kid hates Honkys And you
say who doesn't, Yeah, as you walk away. Yeah, and
not even like joking, like seriously, Yeah, like who does it? Well?

(43:51):
You know, I think that makes me think it's even
more of an homage to all in the family because
they used to throw the word honky around left and
right on that it was George Jefferson and Joel. Is
the word honky like the N word in that only
white people are allowed to say honky? Or or African
Americans allowed to say honky? Yeah, thank you, old. If

(44:13):
you want, you can say honky. I never thought I couldn't.
Wasn't George Jefferson who would call me yeah all the time,
all the time, all the time. Very I mean, I
don't know what the origin of the word honky is. Joel.
Can you look that up for us? It's a funny word.

(44:34):
I can, Okay. So then we have the janitor has
a globe around his cart. He says, point to Iraq.
I go, that's Iraq. He goes, that's China. I go,
you're China. Yeah. Yeah, So once again it tracks though

(44:57):
because JD it's horrible at geography, right once again, Yeah,
just like me and just like you, Just like me,
um Kelso has tattooed the name Johnny on his ass,
on his ass, cheek, on his ass cheek, and later
he sort of reveals that he was in love with Johnny.

(45:18):
He was in love with yeah yeah, because later he
secretly reveals in his voiceover that he wished he'd married Johnny.
Yeah yeah, um yeah right, So kelso fine, no one

(45:40):
has any use for Kelso he's pissed off. He wants
to get back in the game. He just and because
Carl is out as a as a nurse for another week,
he decides that and maybe they did this again because
if Judy being her back, yeah, you know, I'm gonna
I wonder, I wonder if that's true. But there was, Yeah,

(46:02):
but there was a funny moment, but she was barely
in the episode, right uh yeah, She's like one shot
in the episode, and I'm sure we shot it later. Um,
I wonder this made me laugh really hard, couldn't you
say that? Donald? Because when she appears, she's behind she's
she's not in the in the in the lobby, she's
on the other side side of the wall. Yeah. I

(46:25):
wonder if you caught this joke, because I fucking laughed
at this joke. So in order to get back at Elliott,
Cox and Turk make it so that slogans. Dumb slogans
that she said back in the day are now on
the coffee bucks. Yeah, just like how Starbucks used to

(46:47):
put I guess quotes on their cups or something. Right,
so now it's dumb shit, Elliott said. And I didn't
realize she said this, but at one point Elliot said,
my bajango is on fire. Yes, and they put that
on the coffee cups. Elliott read, May two thousand and four.
I don't remember when Elliott said that her pajingo was

(47:08):
on fire. Sometime like right when I heard that, I
was like, what did she say, Mike Djingo is do
you think I was really in an episode or or
it was well, I think she did when she was
talking about like getting waxed or something. Oh, I wonder
if I can find the original. She can't say, um,
but Jing calls her vagina a pajingo. But then Private

(47:29):
Dancer goes, what's a bajingo? I forgot to Kelso say anything,
or he just shows him the cup. He shows him
the cup and he's reading and he goes, jingoes on fire,
Elliot read, May two thousand and four. Yeah, Joel is
probably episode was made two thousand and four. It's probably
in one of them. Um. So Kelsa becomes a nurse. Yes,

(47:55):
the janitor plans to turn a cat into a spice rack.
Oh my god, how is that possible? I don't know.
How do you make a right? I would have loved
to have seen with Johnny. Okay, Johnny, I was probably like,
put me in coach. I mean, I guess you'd hold

(48:18):
I guess it would be mounted upside down with the
with the legs up. Oh wait, hold on behind the
spices up so like on the private parts and the
nipples and all of that stuff of the cat. Well, Um,
the nipples I guess would would be wouldn't really get

(48:41):
in the way of the spices, or they might help
hold the spices in place. All right, So do we
got a call? No? Wait, not yet. Um, I'm not
done yet. Kelson comes a nurse. Um. He gets rescued
in his fantasy by vietname this woman that was his

(49:01):
lover that was gossipy as or as Joel put it.
What did you say, Kiki? Kiki oh Okiki? Sorry I
should have that. Yeah, you chatted up with the girls, Kiki?
Oh Donald, do you love me? Are you riding? Say?

(49:22):
You never never leave? Sign me. Donald, Do you ever
use the term have a kiki? No? Is Joel? Does Joel?
Are you like, hey, hey, do you want to get
together and have a kiki? Yeah? Yeah? Well no, I mean,
I don't think you've never did invite anyone specifically to
a kiki, but you might describe later what happened as
a kiki. Oh girl, we was on the zooe and

(49:43):
all of a sudden we was kiki? Do you love me?
Are you riding? Say you never never leave? Looking for
the Bijingo quote. Honky is a much disputed term that
there's no factual basis of where it came from. People
thought it was West African slang, but that was pretty debunked.
There's my favorite theory is it might come from the

(50:05):
word bow hunk or hunky, which refers to Hungarian, Bohemian
and other Eastern European immigrants. But that's that's the best
guests we have, all right, Well, I don't know, I
don't know. I just know that Donald's allowed to say it. Donalds,
you want to practice saying it? No, you do your
best George Jefferson impression. Wheezy honks? Is that the do

(50:34):
it's horrible. That's horrible. When I was a kid, they
called me George Jefferson because of my hairline. This is
this is my favorite quote from the episode. Whether it'd
be taking a poop, whether it be a finger, whether
it be a tongue, whether it you know everybody likes
low ass flight. Rather it'd be taking a poop, whether

(50:57):
it be a finger, whether it be a tongue, whether
you know everybody likes a little ass flight. Oh my gosh,
I said that. I will I will never not know that.
God the good thing our moms gave up listening to
the show. I hate to tell you this, but it's true. Though. Um,
all right, well, what else can we talk about? We're

(51:19):
almost done here. Kelso reveals, Oh, yeah, we talked about
he wishes he married his Vietnam buddy. Um oh. And
then he unites everyone around a common enemy. He takes
away the coffee discount and coffee Bucks and should start
we should have started the show off with that. Everyone's
very angry at Kelso in the beginning of the show

(51:39):
because he's not living up to his duties anymore. Said
I did, but they do thank him for the employee
discount at the coffee Bucks, and so everybody's thankful for that.
And so at the end, in order to be a
dick again and cause them to unite against the common enemy,

(52:00):
as you just said, yes, he takes away the employee
discut yes, because I guess that that must fall into
like when Americans have been war traditionally, they often come
together against a common enemy. Um, it's gonna have to
be aliensis. I'm gonna tell you right now, it's gonna
have to be Aliens saying this racism shit, because this

(52:21):
shit's forever coming by and no one cares like they're
literally like doing by. It's like, hey, guys, how's it going.
I don't know why they don't just land and come.
Now that the pandemic come kick starting to be over,
why don't they come have a kiki? You want to
hear I remember when the pandemic was happening. It's like aliens. Now. No,

(52:43):
I don't know if this is true, but I heard
that NASA or I don't know who it is, or
somebody is going to send out a pain in the
galaxy to let whoever's out there know that where exactly
Earth is. And yeah, don't do that shit. And there's
a deep our DNA structure will be in the paying
male and female like all types of ship. And didn't

(53:06):
Stephen Hawkings say don't do that? Yeah, he said it
would be like Columbus discovering America. You know what happened.
I'm just gonna say, we've been doing that for decades already.
We've been sending our radio signals into space for exactly
where we are, and this is our DNA structure, Daniel.
But if there's any if there's any intelligent life that's
strong enough to pick up whatever radio signal we're sending
out into space, which only gets like a little bit

(53:27):
further than the signal that we're about to send out
or whatever, they would have found us already they've seen.
But I'm just saying, right by the Earth and then
around the sun. Did you see the other way? Do
I did? I saw the tic TAC. I saw the
tic tac tic tac a little weird to strange tak. Yeah. Yeah,

(53:49):
if you know no one we're talking about, go on
the YouTube's what do you search for? I'm going to
see what you say, space, tic tac space tic tac. Yeah,
I'm willing to bet if you google space tic tak
it'll come. But is that the Is that the fighter
pilot who's freaking out? Yep, No, I'm talking about the one.
I'm talking about the long probe. They wrote about it
in a book a long time ago. Man, a long
time ago. It was written in a book. Clancy Brown

(54:11):
hit me to it. It was like, it's like a probe.
It was like, that comes through. It looks like it
looks like a but they in the book they'd like
land on it and all of that stuff. Anyway, it
comes through, goes around the Sun and exits and it's
an odd it looks like an odd shaped asteroid. That
shit just happened. And we did nothing but say, oh wow,

(54:31):
look at the odd shaped asteroid. The ship came through,
went through, pasted really close to us, went around the Sun,
and then exited our solar system. And we said nothing
like Yeah, everyone's too busy. Everyone's too busy to realize
that the aliens are doing flybys. Watch it if you
want to look at them on YouTube. It's it's labeled

(54:53):
watch Navy pilot describes encounter with tic TAC shaped unidentified
flying object and it's PBS News hours so it's not bullshit,
it's it's the real deal. Holy Field. Um, it's pretty
amazing footage of this fighter jet pilot freaking the fuck
out at what he sees because he's like what he
you know, no one knows better than him that nothing

(55:15):
flies like that from Earth, right, And and he was
having a hard time getting it on the radar, like
he's trying to ping it, and then once he pings it,
he gets so excited. He's like, I got He's so excited,
I got it. Look at it. But he's like, can't
believe what the craft is doing. He's like, look at it,
look at it, look at him. And of course the
episode ends with the janitor predicting Bin Laden in Pakistan,

(55:41):
which when we actually found in Laden in Pakistan, uh
a lot. I remember lots of Scrubs viewers putting on
Twitter and they like the janitor guest right all along
nw you know they always say the Simpsons is always right,
the Simpsons predicts all these things. Well, the janitor predicted that.
How is this saying? Is this is the Simpson Like

(56:03):
I'm so at a loss of words for that, Like,
did they actually predict all of these things? Or is
this somebody cleverly because because there's so many episodes. Yeah,
they really did to some extent most of the things
that you're seeing, like the Trump presidency is absolutely real
with the ORB with them standing around the ORB and
everything like that. Yeah, yeah, like holy, that was crazy.

(56:26):
The escalator thing was really like how did how how
did they do that? How wild? The what thing? There's
a scene in one of the episodes where President Donald
Trump is coming down an elevator an escalator and like
waving at people in the Simpsons episode, and that exact
scene played out in real life. What do you think
Trump saw it and said, Oh, I'll do it like that. Man,

(56:48):
I do not know what if that would be really really,
if you're gonna do it, you should do it like this,
that would be that that would be giving them so
much fucking credit. Man, dude, that's like that would be
That's a matter almost man. Why all right? Shall we
bring We'll go to the break. When I take a break,
and I'm going to allow urine to flow through my urethra,

(57:10):
and then we will have a caller. We'll be right
back urin ghost through the urethra. Yeah, and we're bad.
Play that song. Play that song. Got a call. You

(57:31):
can talk so show dudes, you know, like a balla
spoke some jazz, maybe talking about the episode. So come on, Joan,
let's get the show. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up
by hey there she is Hi Kai hi, Hi, welcome,

(57:58):
thank you, We welcome to the show. Kai is it? Kai?
Is that the way you say? Yeah, kai, welcome to
the program. Um it says create your happiness, live your life.
We like that. We like the expression live your life.
The Nick Cordero song, which is a beautiful song. Um,
welcome to the program. Tell us about yourself? How did

(58:20):
how did Joelle and and end up finding you? Posted?
She was looking for a last minute guest and she
liked my question. What was your question? Well, you just
just dive into it, go for it. Yeah. So April
is Autism Awareness Acceptance Month, and I'm autistic, um and
Scrubs has really helped me embrace my weirdness as an

(58:42):
autistic person. So I'm wondering, what is a quirker insecurity
that you've learned to embrace. Oh my god, that's a
very good question. A great question. Um, I am, I
I feel very Uh what's a quirk I know, I
just think I'm a weird person. I've always thought that

(59:02):
I was a quokie sort of odd person. I mean,
I know I've spoken about this on the podcast before,
but like, I thought I was so weird because everyone
in my public school was playing sports and I had
zero interest, and I was like, what is wrong with me?
Why didn't Why do I have no interest? And then
they'd watch sports and they'd all talk about the game,
and I'd be like and then I just didn't I

(59:24):
really thought there was something wrong with me until I
discovered theater and then I was like, oh, there's other
things that I love. You don't have to just pick lacrosse.
No offense to those who love lacrosse. So then I
learned to embrace theater and really love that. But I
have to admit, I have to admit to you, kay,

(59:46):
that I was still embarrassed at school. Most of the
theater stuff I would do would be outside of school,
would be in the community stuff, or it would be
a theater camp. I was still too shy, and I'm
embarrassed to admit this, but I was still too shy
in my school to do the theater productions because I
was so worried about fitting in and not and in

(01:00:08):
my school they were kind of treated at the time
like dorky and and not cool. And you know, like
so many young kids, I wanted to be accepted. I
wanted to be cool, and so I kind of like
had this double life where I was like kind of
a bit of a class clown in in in school,
but then like outside, I was finding my passion of

(01:00:30):
performing in theater and stuff. Donald, I'm a bit of
an introvert. I know I come out I know I
come off as I know. I come off as someone
who is very loud and likes to be in fun
of a lot of people. I don't like to hang
out though. I don't like to go out. I don't
like to. When you were younger, you did, Yeah, I

(01:00:52):
preferred to. I did hang on. It's a quirk. It's
a quirk that I've developed. I guess then i'd preferred to,
you know, I prefer to sit on my couch and
watch Amy Schumer said it best on the Oscars during
her her her monologues. You remember, She's like, you know,
how great is this? You know, well, what's better than this?

(01:01:12):
What is better than this? She goes, you know what's
better than this home? Yeah, home, she goes, that's where
all my pills are. Yeah, and I I fall into
that category. Now. I'd prefer to be home then do
quite a few things in my life. Uh. And you know,
I'm lucky to have friends like Zach who understand this

(01:01:34):
about me. Yeah, that's where we go to. That's why
Donald and I are already eating dinner at like senior
citizen hour. We're like, how about six? Yeah, but I
saw some funny I saw some funny meme I thought
of us. Donald, it was like like like like a
dog making a face, like what hell you talking about?
It was like when your friends asked you to meet
up at nine thirty pm. Yeah, you gotta be out

(01:01:54):
your mind. You gotta be out your mind. I love
your mind. Yeah, I guess that's the This is forty
seven because I know we're not We're not We're not
meeting up at nine thirty. I talked to somebody on
the phone other than you, dude, for the first time
in a really other than you or my agent and
my mom or my mom in a couple of years.

(01:02:15):
And we talked for like thirty minutes, and it was
like it was. It was. It was weird dude, like
I was. I was uncomfortable at first, like, shit, I
shouldn't have picked up the phone one, you know what
I mean? And then never beat up the phone, right,
And then we had the conversation and at the end
of it, I was actually relieved because we had such
a good time talking. But but it wasn't a FaceTime

(01:02:38):
it was a phone call. It was an actual phone call.
For some reason, I'm better with FaceTime than than the
actual call these days. Kit's nodding, you agree, they're not
liking the phone. It's just an all the time thing
for me, not just pandemics that I get it, really,
but do you do you feel that that's because you shied?
Do you think that's tied into your autism? What do

(01:03:00):
you tell us a little more about yourself. No, I
think it's that's mostly anxiety. Just I also have anxiety.
So and just like when you're, like you said, FaceTime,
I find it easier because you can see people's faces,
so you don't have to rely on the tone of
voice so much. Yes, um, do you feel that your anxiety? Um?

(01:03:22):
And part of what you can say none of your
business acts shut the fuck up. But do you think
your anxiety is tied into your your autism or do
you feel like there are two separate things. Yeah, I
definitely think they're related. Like I would say, the vast
majority of people with autism also have anxiety. So yeah, yeah,
And it's quite as I understand, and I have a
limited understanding, but it's it's quite a spectrum of autism

(01:03:44):
as people who are who are who suffer and on
a very intense level, and those who I mean, if
I met you and you didn't tell me, I wouldn't
necessarily know that you have autism, so um right, it's
quite a it's quite a wide spectrum. Yeah, but you well, yeah,
I mean, listen to somebody who's neuro divergent, Like I
totally feel a lot of that, like trying to, um

(01:04:09):
sometimes just open my computer is scary for me. And
do a lot of work on my phone, like as
much as possible because it doesn't seem as important or heavy.
I have a hard time with FaceTime. I'm not trying
to always keep my angles up, so I really I'm
a big speaker phone person. I'm like I by the way,
I've just recently moved to speaker phone as a as

(01:04:31):
a Yeah, there's something about this holding it this way
as opposed to this that I've been enjoying lately. Yeah. Yeah,
I'll just leave it at one plot spot in my
room and I'm moving around doing laundry, like I need
to be up into I have a g D, so
like I need to be touching things and moving and
you know, especially because a lot of my job is
like on a microphone and I'm not allowed to move

(01:04:53):
or touch things. That to work really hard not to
be tapping on things or whatever. So yeah, it's a
it's definitely a spectrum. It is definitely a process. But
I also think that, you know, having a lot of
friends that are either on the autism spectrum or neuro
divergent like me, Like we work really hard to try

(01:05:13):
to normalize the things that have been mothered our whole lives.
It's a challenge, but it's also been really like a
beautiful experience to kind of come into this acceptance. I
forget things a lot, and you know, I have friends
who are like I need you to text me, like
right away, it's never gonna happen. Love, Like I can't
whoa well So what you're saying, when you have to say,

(01:05:37):
what you're saying too, is that you're learning to like
accept who it is that you are. This is me
and and um, and I'm not gonna it's impossible. I
obviously can do work on myself. We all can, but
there's certain things that are me and I need to
have one. I mean I one needs to embrace who
they who they truly are. Yeah, there's a new show Kai.

(01:05:59):
I don't know if you've watched a little I watched
a little bit of it called um as we see It.
Have you heard about that? Yeah? I watched it? Did
Did you think it's it's about um, three autistic adults
who lived together. Um. Did you did you feel it
was accurate or funny or good? Or would you recommend
it to other people with autism? Yeah? I would. I
think it was like definitely a step in the right

(01:06:22):
direction because all of the actors were autistic and that
doesn't often. So don we know um one of the
actors he's a stand up um um and he's very
funny and his name is Rick Lassman. Really did you
know that? I did? Not? You know? How he was
on Bill's show? Um Um and he's a stand up

(01:06:43):
community he's very funny. And yeah, and he and and
he late in life was diagnosed with autism. And it's
like what Kayle was saying, it always felt a little
bit different, and so obviously in the terms of the spectrum,
he wasn't severely autistic, um, if that's the correct way
to put it, but he always felt and then and
then went and saw someone and realized that he was

(01:07:05):
indeed autistic. And he's wonderful on the show. He's a
very good actor, and he's very funny. It's a comedy.
I recommend people checking out. It's called as we As
We See It. It's very unique. I've never seen a
show like it. It stars three autistic people and they're
all very gifted actors. Yeah, I'm gonna check it out.
I hadn't heard of that before. All right, Kai, do

(01:07:25):
you do you have to fix your life? Anything we
can do to improve your life in any way? Yes.
So I recently participated in a short film project m
and I had never done anything like that, and I
didn't expect to, but it just kind of happened anyway.
I really enjoyed it, and I fell in love with

(01:07:48):
like the filmmaking process. And I'm just wondering, like any
advice for how to continue exploring that as an amateur,
like no experience, keep doing it there. I mean, there's
there's there's such a desire for more female voices. There's
such a desire desire for um um autistic voices. What, Joel,

(01:08:10):
the term you use neurodivergent, I don't know, that's a
new term for me. But there's such a there's such
a hunger for for for voices. I mean, look at
the celebration of the of the film that won Best
Picture of Code. Finally, in a really amazing way, someone
made a movie about that experience of a of a

(01:08:30):
of a deaf family. Um So I would encourage you
to do it and the way they do it. Just
keep making movies. Get a camera. It can be a
cheap camera. You don't have to break the bank. He
could literally use your iPhone. You can go on Amazon
and there's accessories for your iPhone that'll make you shoot
better with your iPhone, like hand grips and mics, and
you can there's people that there's that movie was that

(01:08:52):
trans film, Joel. They shot on Tangerine, They shot the
whole thing on an iPhone and it won all these awards.
So money is not an impediment. Um, it's just about
putting the work, in, putting the time in getting getting
some friends together, making also having something to say whatever
it is that you want to say, being able to
focus it and put it onto a script form or

(01:09:13):
it's hard to do just for talking with me sometimes,
but having something to say is very important. When you
find what it is that you want to say, you
have all of the tools, That's what Zach is saying
to make these projects and you can. It's accessible, so
if you're really serious about if you're really serious about it,
you can do it. Tell your story, I mean, that's
what I would say. I mean, that's what when when

(01:09:34):
I made gardens did I was just telling a version
of my life. UM. I tell when you, if you
make a short, tell tell something that's interesting about about
you in your life. You know it doesn't have to
be you exactly make a character, but um, you know
you have a you have a unique, interesting story to
tell that no one else could tell but you. So
that's my advice is to write a short, gather your

(01:09:56):
friends around to help and um and make something that's
that only you could tell. I agree with that. Hunt.
You're welcome, Donald, You're welcome. You're so welcome. Kai, thank
you for coming on. Everybody. That's our show. I think
we did it all. Donald's we did do it all.
I just want to give a shout out to a
gofund me. Well, I love you, Happy birthday, obviously, I

(01:10:16):
want to give a shout out to a gofund me.
My son, Rocco went to school with this young girl
named Hayden who is suffering from leukemia right now. She's
eight years old, and her gofund me is help Hayden
fight leukemia. Her mom was Rocco's teacher in kindergarten and
she taught him how to read. And so, you know,

(01:10:39):
it's something that's that means a lot to me, means
a lot to my wife. I just wanted to say,
give him with a little bit of time that I
have left on this, help Hayden fight leukemia. It's a
go fund me. Joel will put it on the show notes,
so if you look in the show notes, you'll be
able to find it. And Um, thank you, Kai, thank you, Daniel,

(01:11:02):
thank you Joel. Um. This was an episode that was
all over the place. I loved it, and I can't
wait to have our new Donald quote in the sound machine.
Why don't you play it one time for everybody? I don't,
I I you don't. I just feel like I'm a
little bit shy to play it in front of Kai,
because she feels like a gentlewoman, a woman who shouldn't

(01:11:23):
hear such horrible things. I agree with. But Kai, when
you hear the episode back, you'll hear it several times.
All Right, Everybody that's saying six seven eight stories about Shore,
we made about a bunch of doctor nurses stories.