801: My Jerks

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, No, we already started the show. We started
the show when your ship was fucked up. Everybody knows. Now,
I know you're just just just exhaling the bong hit.
But calm no, I didn't just exhale the bong hit everyone.
The whole time I was I was trying to listen.
I was like, the audience is going to turn this off.

(00:20):
He's yelling at everyone, and yet it's one of our
greatest reviewed. It was very funny, by the way, I
have to say, after you stopped yelling, I was laughing
my butt off, so I didn't have a whole episode no.
Once I said, dude, can you You're like literally your
body was standing and he yelling down into the mic,
I was like, can you please calm down. I want

(00:42):
the audience at home to know that Donald, as you know,
just moved into his house. He has a giant bookshelf
behind him with the library letter as we mentioned, and
he has one book so far displayed, and I believe
it's a Star Wars side show collectibles book. Correct sir.
The first things I talked to today, oh Tony Gilroy,

(01:03):
Oh shit, I know, let's have a conversation. I'm sorry
if I yelled. Just now, Let's let the baby latchet back,
let the weeds settle into a more peaceful place. I
also have to apologize last week. If you notice my
audio is a bit off, It's not Daniel's fault. Some
of you might be thinking, nobody, Zach, let's get to

(01:24):
the Tony Gilroy of it all. Okay, sorry, I am
the engineer. It is my job to say, is everybody
recording you are the engineer. Nobody cares Daniel. Nobody cares Daniel.
It's important we all take responsibiit all right? So you
spoke to Tony Gilroy. Tell people who don't know who
Tony Gilroy is, Joel. Yeah, Tony Gilroy wrote your favorite
action movie and Mine, the Born Identity Original Trilogy. Incredible writer.

(01:48):
And he also is the showrunner and creator of and
or Um. So he is up for a bunch of
awards this award season, as is his production designer, Luke
Hole So beautiful, Zach, remind me with the production designers,
what's their guild called? I don't know, aga, I can't remember.
I make sure they were very kindly invited me in

(02:09):
to talk to both Luke and Tony about and or
and their experience working together. And I learned a lot
and it was very beautiful that show. I have to
say I voted on Mom, the d GA, the WGA,
and SAG. I'm not going to tell you who I
voted for him, but I did Donald. You definitely didn't
vote for SAG because that would have involved you knowing

(02:31):
that the SAG Awards deadline was coming up. And if
Casey didn't tell you and put it in front of you,
I don't think it happened. I only vote in November,
Okay that even if there's no election, he just makes
sure to vote on something in November. I gotta tell you, so,

(02:52):
our Super Bowl ad is out. Did you guys see it?
I didn't love it. I love it. I love it.
I love it and where every plays, I'll watch it.
I'll watch it. So watch it. This is gonna be
air after the Super Bowl. Obviously, I'm so glad that
Blank team one who won. But we're recording this on

(03:15):
Thursday before the Bowl. Um. Yeah, these days, the ad
companies released the ads on the web a little bit early, um,
just to kind of gain some momentum. But then it'll
play for the first time on TV. On the Bowl
on Sunday. But anyway, see it, Oh my god, this
you haven't seen it too well, you mightly want to
watch it now a sixty let's say a quick break

(03:35):
and we're all gonna watch the trailer. Joan me to
link it to you, Joel, there's a People's article about it.
It's on the YouTube's you know, and just there's a
link to the YouTube video. There's better on the YouTube
is because it's not cut rectangular for reels and this
is that. So we're gonna take it. We're gonna take
a break, guys, and we're gonna watch this. No, we're
not gonna take a break. We're just gonna give you.

(03:56):
We're gonna talk about meaning this ship while you, audience,
take a moment to look at the T Mobile commercial
where we sing with John Travolta. I'm pressing play right now.
All right, good share screen, Donald, Well let's let them
digest it. Pretty fun hunt Donald Joel's face right now.

(04:23):
I think that's called she shook. I think she shook.
Oh my god, Oh my god, guys, it's so cute. Great,
why came out? What was it like singing with John

(04:44):
Travolta that's crazy. It was so cool. He was so nice.
Donald and I had a chap beforehand. We're like, bro,
you know, we're not great around really famous people. You
need to be chill and listen Donald Donald, and keep
in mind you it's long. We were like drunk at
a party, Donald super sober. We're like, yeah, we got it.

(05:04):
We're locked in ten seconds and I go over, he's
intervaled his face talking about face off. Wow, I can't listen. Man.
He's one of my favorites, you know what I mean,
Like even before we did the commercial, Like, I've seen
pretty much all of his movies and he's always been great,

(05:26):
you know. And you know, Saturday Night Fever is one
of the dopest movies ever made. If you're a young
actor and you want to see, you know, just good
movie making, put that on. I promise you it still
holds up. And it's about disco too, but it's also
about more than that, you know, just if you get
the opportunity. Anyway, he couldn't have been nicer. He was

(05:48):
so cool. It was fun and we got to dance
with him. There's an extended version that I guess since
this is airing Tuesday, will probably be out. It's not
out yet. But there's like a ninety second version where
we there's a two minute version, there's a two minute version,
there's nineties there's longer versions where we really dance. We made.
I mean, it's too bad they couldn't air. I feel

(06:08):
like the longer the version, the better the commercial. I'm
just gonna keep in one hundred. No, it's so funny
we dance with him. There's a whole nother section that
obviously they couldn't fit into a sixty second ad for
the super Bowl. It's so expensive to advertise the super Bowl.
But and I'm so happy the sixty seconds exist. But
if you if you're a fan of us obviously listening
to this, we check out the long extended version because

(06:29):
it's pretty funny. I was like, there's no way they
could play this, man, this is like the length of
the halftime show. You two minutes. Well, there's there's a
two minute one which has a little dialogue moment with
me and Donald um and that's funny. And but the
ninety second one has a whole dance sequence. It's funny. Yeah,

(06:50):
I love it. I'm so happy we got the opportunity
to do. Yeah, it's so fun. I mean, it's cool
to be in a Super Bowl ad, but it's also
just like, you know, dancing and singing Grease with Travolta.
That's just like life goals, you know. Yeah, shout out
Plugman t Mobile. Yeah, thank you. Brian Klugman, who we've
had on the show. As you know, he's the don
draper of it all, and he's just such a a

(07:12):
good man and a funny man. He wrote that whole
thing himself, and it's hilarious. We never thought they were
gonna get Travolta, do they donald They approached Alan and
I about it. We're like, yeah, that sounds awesome, but
Travolta is not gonna do this, and then he and
then Travolta loved it. He thought it was so funny. Yeah,
shooting your shots everywhere, that's what they were saying about
Harrison Ford coming on drinking. Okay, it'll never happens. You

(07:38):
gotta ask. I never thought Ali Poorman's gonna see us
to Garden State. You just you gotta you gotta shoot
your shot, you gotta try, You gotta ask. You know,
I'm gonna keep it one hundred. I never thought Casey
Copp would say yes to say this morning, but she
did fucking awesome. I go too far. I went too far.
You went perfect. Although although it was funny, I thought

(07:59):
you were gonna it's funny because I thought you were
gonna say I never thought Casey cob would say yes
to marrying me or dating me, because she said no
a bunch of times yeah, and then she wouldn't. She
said she would. You know, she infamously said, doesn't he
have like nine kids? But then but then she fell
in love with you and you're married, but you turned
it into having sex this morning, which is yes, you

(08:21):
know it doesn't listen you know me. You don't why
she gave me morning secks because you know that T mobile,
that T mobile drop that T mobile dropt. Do you
know itself? She was like, all right, I got my
new fellows in my house. You wanted to come down here, No,
dont don't get her. Don't don't don't get her to
come down here. No we don't. We don't want Casey
to come down here. I love Casey, but let's stay

(08:42):
focused on topic. We have all so much to talk about.
It's the beginning of season eight. You're right. Season eight,
Season eight, we're running out episodes, guys, I know we
don't have that many left. Yeah, we need to come
up with an idea for the show. Let's just slow down.
We're going too fast asked. It's like it's like we're
going too fast, Donald, like you probably were with Casey

(09:04):
this morning. You have to slow No, no, no, no, no,
savor Now I gotta go get him. No, don't go
get her talking about you talking about No, I don't.
Oh my god. You know the real reason he goes
and gets her is he so incredibly clingy and p
whipped that, like the the ninety minutes we do the

(09:25):
podcast is too much time apart, he has to go
get her. Oh, I feel like we're interrupting whatever she's
trying to do while Donald is busy. She's probably so
stoked that she gets a solid ninety minutes to do
some shit without him bothering her talking about it. Oh,

(09:49):
Zach's talking about talking about it? What the is he
talking about? I play the theme song Casey coming down here,
do tell me what to do? And well, this is embarrassing. No, listen,

(10:11):
ye get down so we can see you your husbands.
He I thought he was gonna say. I thought he
was gonna say, Um. We were talking about how you
know you have to when when you're trying to get
an actor for something, you can't give up. You have
to keep trying to get them to be in your show,
if it's Harrison Forward or whatever. Assistance be persistent exactly.
And Donald started to say, well, I couldn't believe that

(10:32):
Casey Cobb, and I thought he was gonna say, married
me after after something, and then he said, was willing
to have sex with me this morning? Well, you know,
I take one for the team. Guys, I don't do
what I do know. But then Zach said, you know
why she had sex with you because that T mobile dropped. Yeah, yeah,

(10:55):
the T mobile I dropped. He got congratulations, I told you, Yeah,
yeah he got something congratulations sex. He got congratulations sex.
And you know what, I can't have him on cloud nine.
And then all of a sudden fall to the gutter
because you know, I didn't perform, but perform. I will

(11:16):
humble his ass tomorrow morning. I'll be like you had
your day, Yes, that shi is over? Yeah, now we
need to yeah, super Bowl. So Casey. Then Donald made
some comment because I said, you know, I hope that
you didn't rush things, and that we were talking about
this podcast and how it's going so fast and we

(11:36):
need to slow down and not rush. I said to Donald,
I hope that he's savored this morning and didn't didn't
rush too fast. And he said, no, no, just like
I rushed this morning. I said, oh no, no, no, yeah,
And then he said, I go go get Casey because
he wanted to. I assume he wanted you to to say,
what a wonderful lover. He honest with him. Everybody wants
to hear the honest and goodness truth out there. Babe.

(11:58):
That ship was long. I gotta be sho First of all,
this one savers every fucking second. There are times that

(12:19):
I have to like snap and be like, hey, come
back back. Gods hilarious. I have to bring it back

(12:42):
to reality. Sometimes I'll look back and he's like dreaming.
I'm like, oh my god, not dreaming. He's in his
happy in it. Oh my god. She said. Sometimes I
have to look back. She said, you have looked back.
She looked back, like yeah, it's just to look back,

(13:04):
because yeah, she has to look back. She says that
you're sort of lost in a dream world and she
has to snap to bring you back over the over
the shoulder, like this is great, Right, we're gonna win
an award. All right, we got to start the show.

(13:27):
Thank you for your sex anecdote. I hope your floors
are okay. I'm gonna get a kiss. That is amazing?
Good is there? It is? You guys are hilarious. I
would watch that reality show. I love that. I know
you're so in loving adorable dude. It's like, you know
it's great, But we're here to talk about scrubs. Yeah,

(13:49):
we're gonna focus on scrubs. I just wanted to say
one last thing. I recently started watching The Boys again.
It is so good because I had paused. I had
paused for some reason, and now I just finished season two,
and that is one of the best shows on TV.
And it's a shame that Donald doesn't watch things, because man,
he would love that. I watch I watched season one

(14:11):
of the Boys. Uh, and I guess I watched season
some of season two. It's so crazy. It's do you
know about the crazy shot in season three? Don't ruin
anything in season three? Please, no, you don't have to
don't ruin anything. You know, it's it's good. I like
I like the show. You know, superhero shows, I don't know, man,

(14:34):
superhero shows get a little boring to me because I
don't know, man. After a while, they just they just
it's I can't take the bullshit. I want to see
the action, and I want to see the comic book
stuff I don't necessarily want to see, like the drama
of it all. This show is a lot of social commentary,

(14:54):
which is brilliant. I mean, there's so cool. That's cool.
And all the people watching this show, um, who who? Who? Who? Who?
Don't know that they're rooting for the bad guy? Oh? Oh,
they definitely are. They definitely know that. Listen, that's a
crazy thing, you know, that's the crazy thing. America thinks
we're Superman, but we're really fucking that dude, Homelander. We're

(15:19):
really Homelander. But there must be people out there. I
was watching it, and the end of season three is
particularly poignant about social comments. Sorry, end of season two
is particularly poignant. I mean, there's literally an attack on
the Capitol in the show, and I said, I wonder
if just people watching this rooting for Homelander and there
must be Yeah, certainly, ye, season three top season two,

(15:41):
Zach and I can't wait really thoughts interesting? Okay, but
season one was Season one was really good. I thought
season two kind of fell from season one, but that's
just I love it. Listen, listen, put it this way.
Put this way. I'm not a person who ever watches
superhero stuff for the most part, as you guys all know,
And but this one is just the writing is so incredible.
It's so funny, and then at the same time, it's

(16:03):
so r rated, Like I feel like it's the most
r rated thing I've ever seen on TV. Yeah, like
the gore and the sex stuff and yeah, but Nose
two had sex and these two had sex in the
sky yeah, like above the couch and everything like that.
They're not ready and that ship and they bang so hard,
but like she was like, for real, for real about it.

(16:25):
Bang that go too far? No, okay, he just talks
about having sex with your wife. So lots of lots
of people, You're fine, Um, all right, should we get
into season eight? Everybody, let's count sat Donald's seven eight
stories about show. We made about a bunch of doctor
nurses and stories. So yet around here, yeah, around here. Well,

(17:02):
it's a whole new world, everybody. We're on ABC now. Now,
just one thing I didn't know as a piece of trivia.
As you know, throughout seasons one through seven, I have
said that this show is shot on sixteen millimeter film
and it always had the standard square aspect ratio. But
I'm guessing, well not guessing, I can tell. Starting in

(17:24):
season eight it was finally upressed. The film was upresed
to HD for the first time, so you'll notice that
it's actually finally sixteen by nine. Any other times, yes,
any other time you've seen the show, seasons one through
seven seemingly fit your whole square sixteen by nine television.

(17:46):
It's been cropped by whomever is broadcasting it. But this
is finally a full HD television show because I'm assuming
back that is when the switches were being made to
making everything HD. I want to just say something really
quick before we start ahead. I found myself more fascinated
with who was on the show this time around, more

(18:11):
than what was happening in the show, which was really
interesting because this is the first this is the first
time I've ever done that, and we've had some amazing
guest stars before, but this was the first time where
I was like, wait a second, holy shit that's and
holy shit that's and wow, this is before they and

(18:32):
oh my god, we were so you know what I mean, Like, well,
as He's Unsorry of course and Eliza Cooper are two
people that really and Tarn kill him. Tarn kill him
three people that really broke out from this. I mean,
Tarn was known a bit before, but I don't think
as He's well, he was like on Matt Look, Tarn
was on Mad TV and Nickelodeon stuff like that, you

(18:56):
know what I mean. He hadn't necessarily had his big
you know, not ready for prime time breakout. Yeah, yeah,
breakout moment yet. But A Z's was pretty unknown, right,
Maybe he was a stand up no buzz's had like
some maybe he was on the internet or something like that.
I remember walking with his Z's in the parking lot
and being like giving him the hey, kid, you stick

(19:19):
to it. You're gonna be really gear, really funny, fucking idiot.
I fucking shot myself in the foot. This motherfucker goes
on to be as he's on three, you know what
I mean, Like, come on, bro, Like, but you knew,
but we knew back then. You knew back then he
was gonna be good, and you knew Eliza was gonna
be good. Yeah, they were all great. I mean think
about it, like, I think Bill's um strategy, I assume

(19:42):
was like I want to you know, Bill always said
that he thought there's no reason that this couldn't be
like an ER where R type show where he keeps
it going, and I think the idea this again another
thing is we this is the first episode we moved
to ABC. So we'll talk about some of the jokes
that were in there because of ABC. So keep in
mind what had happened was NBC. The ratings weren't, you know,

(20:03):
big enough, and they were like, you know what, seven
seasons is good, that'll be the end. And then the
show is owned by Disney, as we've told you in
ABC is owned by Disney, so um Disney said, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well,
well we're not done yet, we're gonna put it on ABC.
So I think Bill's thinking was as any smart showrunner

(20:23):
would like, you know, maybe I should start introducing some
new young blood because this could be like er I
just keeps going for twenty years with new comedians. He
was trying to bring in Sam. Yes, like for those
of you that know a different Strokes reference, he was
trying to bring in Sam. I could bring dance and
play the guitar, mister date anyway. So that's what's going

(20:49):
on with them, And then of course we have the
stunningly beautiful Courtney Cox coming. You know, Bill was onto something.
I think this would have worked if if if he
could have kept the original cast for the whole series,
and if he would have stayed on the show, you
know what I mean. Like, you know, I don't remember

(21:10):
season nine. I know we shot a season nine, I
don't necessarily remember it. Stone, you must have been well,
Bill was gone, you know at that point I was
freaking out of control. Stone man, like I was, Well,
we joke about season nine and we're gonna watch season nine,
which which would be fun because I definitely Donald and
I have not seen a single episode of it. But um, Bill,

(21:32):
you know, um. You know it's worth noting that Bill
wasn't the writer of that sort of spin off. It
was a whole new writer's room. Bill went on to
do Cougar Town with Courtney Cox. This was kind of
like the testing ground for their you know, yeah, this
is where Bill got to know Courtney and became friends
with her and really liked writing for her. And so

(21:52):
then they went off to make a Cougar Town, which
interestingly enough, also started on ABC, and then when ABC
tried to cancel it, they moved that showed a TBS
and kept it going. So Bill's probably in the Guinness
Book of World Records for shows moved to other networks.
I'm sure Dick Wolf and so I'm sure he's done

(22:13):
it before. He said Dick Wolf, he said Dick and Wolf. Um.
So um, yeah, that's some backstory about this. The opening joke.

(22:33):
It starts right off, which being beard face. Well, I
have a beard, by the way, I was so bummed
about how brown. There's not a single gray hair in
that beard. No, it looks weird. I love it. What
do you mean it looks weird? It looks good. I
look at Kenny Loggins. I was like, look at the glow.
Up Zack haw up right, hair was whipped, the hair

(22:56):
was flying. Zach Zack had some success. He came back
with some money, was like, let's go. Can I got
a fucking fully brown, not one gray hair beard. I
think did Barts that summer? Weren't we in Saint Barts
that whatever, whatever happened, I looked best. You were skinny.

(23:21):
You are like, I don't know if I'll ever look
that good again. Not a single fucking wrinkle under my eye. Dude,
shit man, that was so that was where I peaked.
I peaked with that Kenny Loggin's beard. Peek. You were
good in the T mobile commercial baby, Oh thank you girl.
Your eyes are so blue in that commercially are blue?

(23:42):
That sweater really blue out the blueness in my eye. Pop.
It's like it's like, a hey, that wasn't an accident.
Tell I gotta tell you I picked the blue blue.
I knew you did. I knew you did. Um So anyway,
so I want what I wanted to see is the
very first joke that JD makes won't come across um
in certain places where you're watching it. But if you recall,

(24:02):
he points down to the bottom right hand portion of
the screen and he goes, huh, that's new. That's because
that's where the ABC had a little button, a little
ABC identifier tag on the bottom of the screen, and
then builded a joke on that and then revealed that
in the show, he's he's pointing to I guess the
janitor's watch or the gum that the janitors which watch. Okay,

(24:27):
so the janitor says, oh, you're talking about my watch.
So we do a little joke about that. But that
was so there's some meta jokes in here about moving
to ABC through well, yeah, definitely in the end credits,
of course, which we'll get. Written by the very talented
Angela Nissel and directed by the legendary Michael Spiller. Michael
spill we should I mean, we had him on the

(24:48):
show before, man, but let's just for you guys that
don't remember. Spiller has directed so much television. He directed
Sarah on Firefly Lane, he directed so many episodes of Scrubs.
He's directed, like, you know, so many things. But Sex
in the City is his like was like the beginning
of it all right, right, because he started a cinematographer. Yeah,

(25:09):
he was the DP on it and then moved over
to Some cinematographers aspire to move on from being the
cinematographer to being a director, and some are quite successful,
and Michael was that. He shot I believe most of
Sex in the City and then started directing Sex in
the City and then now he's a very big and
beloved TV director. You know, your path is your path.

(25:32):
And now he's back with Sarah Chalk with Firefly Lane,
although that's over now, I think, right yeah, anyway, because spoilers, Sarah,
you know, spoilers, all right. So the janitor says that

(25:54):
I have a pre pubescent Miami Vice and I say
that I look like I say, there are some who
think guy looked like a young Kenny Loggins and he
says who and I say me, um way too the
danger zone. We know you wanted to sing that. I didn't,

(26:14):
especially not that loud. But um let's let the babies
latch again. Let them suckle and they're latched. If you
get the baby on the on the areola and someone
screams out loud, you're gonna jostle the baby. I wish

(26:37):
I had video of that baby jostle when it happened.
That's so cute. It's all right, So let's just go
through that. We meet all the new interns. Um as
we mentioned ed, is played by his z The niece
is played by Eliza Cooper, and we learned that, um,
I think he has a fun Speaking of T Mobile,
I think he's got like a sidekick because he's I

(27:00):
couldn't tell if it's actually a T Mobile sidekick, but
he's got that flip up style like I wish T
Mobile would bring back that sidekick. That phone was great,
miss listen, I miss am I buy something an old
man when I said, I really still miss a tactile keyboard, No, no,
not at all, I would. I don't know why anyone doesn't.

(27:20):
Why is no one like you can? This is what
you should do, righty? You have an iPhone right and
they don't change the thickness, or maybe they make it
a little bit thicker, but then you pop out your
fucking little keyboard. Why not guys? Come on see it? Also,
if I could just slap a phone shut again, I
would really appreciate. I miss being able to just click
it y. I don't know, but tactile they have, they

(27:42):
have that I phone one of my old flip phones. Here,
an old Motorola. I was playing with it slipping it closed.
We sho but it's dual glass and I don't feel
comfortable if you get a proper snap on that. You
know what I'm saying, right you can't get that click
bob bitch click. Yeah. I just don't understand. And why
no one like the BlackBerry held on as long as

(28:03):
it could because for people who love the tactile keyboard.
But now that it's gone, Why why no one creates
something like this? I don't know. It could even be
an aftermarket like a case of something. Well, i'll tell you,
I'll tell you this. Every they're definitely trying to sell distraction, right,
So there's no way anybody's gonna sell you a phone
where all it does is just flip open unless you

(28:26):
know that's what people that's what you're looking for. Yeah, yeah,
people planning people sell flip phones if you don't want to. Well,
the assistant editor I had on my on my film Awesome,
guy named Elliott Eisman, and he was in his thirties
and head a flip phone, and I always I always
made fun of him because I was like, dude, I
really hate that my textico green to you, and we

(28:47):
would laugh about it. But he's like, I just never
went down the smartphone wormhole. I saw how many how
it took over everyone I know his life, and I
just I just held myself back and never went down
the Wormhall. I was impressed. The only person I know
like that. Yeah, I can't text on that ship though,
that's the only problem. No, no, I know. But if
it's like a sidekick or a or but even the sidekick,

(29:08):
you know, even the said the reason why the sidekick
was so dope was because it did it had a
lot of functions, same thing with the freaking, but it
was just functions. It was just so cool how it
flipped out though. How you It's almost like star Trek kikikie. Yeah,
Paris Hilton made that famous right. That was like at
the height of Paris Hilton's uh well, at the well

(29:29):
T Mobile at the time it was Charles Barkley and
Dwayne Wade. Where the sidekick? Dudes? Oh really, I just
mean that your Paris was everywhere in the news, and
I remember she always had a sidekick bedazzled pink Joy. Yeah,
it was like bedazzled start. You probably knew this. But

(29:50):
you can put a I'm trying to tiptoe off these addicting,
addictive apps, and you can on your phone you can
put a time limit on specific apps. I need this
getting s what what is this? What is this time?
It's built into my phone. Yeah, if you go in
your if you go in um settings, audience, you're gonna
love this. This is gonna help you all. It's gonna
help you wean yourself off crack cocaine. You can go

(30:13):
in and like select Instagram for example. Disclaim disclaimer, This
is not gonna get you off a crack cocaine. No,
I'm saying I don't mean crack cocaine. I mean the
crack cocaine that is social media. So you can you
can say okay Instagram. You can see how much time
you're spending on a day, and then you can go, okay,
I'm gonna that's that's embarrassing. I can't believe I'm spending

(30:35):
that much time on Instagram a day. And then you
can go a set timer for one hour so and
then a second you reached an hour, it locks you
out of the app. That setting is called screen time.
Screen time. But if you got to post something, well
you can you can override it if like for work,
you need to post something obviously, but also schedule your posts,

(30:56):
Like if you're posting for work, just schedule it so
that way you're not timed it to be on the app.
But what if you just found the dopest ham and
cheese sandwich you've ever had in your life and you
want Okay, I didn't know first of all, where's the
ham and cheese sandwich? Because no, I won't one, right,
But any which you can do, just like someone weaning

(31:17):
them off drugs is and I started to do this.
You go, you start like saying an hour, right, and
then you get locked out and you okay, and then
like the next day you do fifty five minutes, and
then next day you fifty and a little by little,
you just you're not not using the app as much anymore.
I like, there you go. The more you know, Dan,
I'll play them, the more you know on music. Okay,
back to the TV show Scrubs. Everyone at this hospital

(31:40):
has been flirting with someone on the web called hot
Girl ninety nine. Okay, we should also we should give
a little bit of a story about these new interns,
because that's what this show is pretty much about. So
Katie is a kiss ass, Denise is has horrible bedside manner. Yes,

(32:01):
Ed which you're talking about right now, tricks a catfish
to come to the hospital, so he gets catfish, and
then catfish is the catfish to come to the hospital. Yes,
and he says, beholding a red balloon, but he's a
Zes's character is playing Hot Girl ninety nine, and he says,

(32:23):
carry a red balloon, so ill know. And then Jad says, wait,
you're hot girl ninety nine. Yeah, he walks away like
he's he's been chatting to her too, And then throughout
the episode as a runner you see lots of men
holding red balloons, including Colonel, Colonel, doctor Yes, and Ted Yes,
Ted's that's a sad story, Sam Lloyd. This is this

(32:47):
is the saddest Sam Lloyd has ever been on the show.
I know it's really dark too, Like you definitely not
make um these jokes in twenty twenty three, No, but
not a bone. But it was little dark. But I
love I Love I Love Jimmy. The over touchy touchy.
How do you say, the over the overly touchy orderly. Yeah,

(33:07):
the overly touchy orderly. I love Jimmy, the over touchily
order Oh my god, when when when Sam on my face?
When when when Sam falls out of his chair and
Ted falls out of his the wheelchair because he was
cold and needed a seat. And then and then he's
on the ground. And then that was the funniest ship
of the episode when tarn is like groping him and

(33:28):
he's like, yeah, okay, he's like, he's just like okay, okay,
slow slowly, smooth, slowly, don't you Yeah, And he's like
do I know you? And he's like, moo, slowly, don't
rush anything. He's okay, breathe on my face. That was
hilarious that that Yeah he was. That was that was

(33:51):
I laughed the hardest at that. Yeah, me too at
that part. So Courtney Cox gets the beautiful beautiful woman
entrance that we always do on Scrubbs. But when then
we do a play on the joke, We joke the
joke by having it go on too long, and Jad's like,
all right, come on, hurry up the sexy music. Yeah,
but also Jady's not attracted to her. Yes, yeah, yes
he yeah, keem like no, but he says he says

(34:16):
because she was. He says something like because she was
a babe, of course I had to do this. And
then the Courtney and Courtney does There's no one who
doesn't think Courtney looks sexy. Let me tell you. In
those videos, those entrance videos, she's a knockout. Let me
tell you something right now, Yes, Donald, Courtney Cox says,

(34:39):
you know on the top ten lists, right and at
least with my top ten lists. Yeah, she's a oh
my gosh. However, all the way back to Family Ties, yeah,
she was the second love interest. Yeah on the show. Uh,
well all the way I go all the way back
to Bruce Bruce Brinstein, right, Um, Kelso's replacement. We said

(35:02):
his Courtney Cox. And Cox doesn't want to smile so
badly because he knows he's gonna hate her because at
the hospital that he defibrillates his head out lat Yeah,
he that's not recommended to defibrillate your head. I would
not do that. I would not do that. I don't
know if that. I don't think that's the right way. No,
you definitely don't want to defibrilate your head. Use that,

(35:24):
Dawn put the music again. Kids, don't defibrillate your head. Um.
But anyway, it gets a smile off of him, and um,
now this is actually this story with Jad being so
nervous not to know what to say to uh courtey
and Cox's character. Um, and they're talking about their babies

(35:44):
and he says, did you deliver vaginally? I did, and
he goes, big girl must have hurt. Now. I just
recently was reminded this is a real story from Matt's harses.
One of our favorite Jeff Zucker, who told you was
the head of NBC, the one that Donald Nuggee um

(36:07):
Matt Tarsus nervously was talking to him and they were
talking about their kids. This all happened in real life,
and Matt was nervous and didn't know what to say.
They were exchanging stories about having a newborn and Matt said,
so did your wife deliver vaginally? What did think about

(36:27):
what was happening on this show as it comes out
as it comes out of your mouth in your life
that like is this just me? Or like there's certain
people like you're just kind of nervous around and you
always say something stupid every if I've seen you in
a movie ever in my life, that's me. You just

(36:51):
can't help I am certain people who I and every
time I'm like, all right, dude, you got this, Like
it's Donald's right, it's often someone I had or someone
I think is really cool, and then what comes out
is just so stupid, like out of a movie. Yeah,
so Donald and I both have this problem, and it's
usually around people we admire. We we both call each

(37:11):
other the next day and cringe and go, dude, I
didn't know what to say. I said something so stupid
to so and so. JD comes in and he's Cox
is ranting about how he finds so many people annoying,
and j D doesn't walk by and goes new freckle.
I mean, Jad is keeping track of Cox's freckles. I'm

(37:32):
gonna say that the Facts of Life jokes, Yeah, I
don't know if anyone gets them. Who are isn't our age?
I thought that ship was hilarious. How she was Joe?
How how how Denise's Joe and Katie's Blair. But then
when when Ed is like, you could call me two D,

(37:54):
I won't think it's racist. That was funny. It was.
But the facts of life joke is a deep cut
for some people, but um for those of you don't know.
Because said Tom said coom, we all loved very much
when we were growing up, and I had such a
crush on Joe, Like who didn't have a crush. I

(38:15):
know some people were Blair people. I was a Joe person.
I was a Joe. I was a Joe and I
and I was a Tutti? Oh my god, was I Tutti?
Who wait? I want to tell you something right now? Man,
oh man, you want to talk about that? That her

(38:37):
mom actually, Chip Fields, kim Field's mom. Kim Field's played Tutti.
Chip Fields little known that when I first moved out
to Los Angeles and I was doing Clueless, a television show,
they hired her to help me learn how to do
sitcom uhd with with my sitcom timing, So she would,

(39:00):
unbeknownst to me, one day I walk in my chairler
and Chip Fields is in there, and this is the
mom from from Good Times who beat Penny Janet Jackson, right,
And so I walk into my trail and she's sitting
in there and I'm like, oh shit, I didn't know.
She was like, they hired me to work with you,
and I was like, oh okay. And she would for

(39:22):
like almost a season she would come to set and
run lines with me. She helped you, Yeah, she helped tremendously.
Like she's a great coach. That that was what she
did at that point. But that's the one time this
wasn't a sitcom, right, No, it wasn't. It was a
multi camera thing. But I was playing the whole thing
like I was trying to play the whole thing like
this and talk. Everything was very natural and when you know, right,

(39:48):
and when you were using a heightened reality of a comedy,
right right, And so I'm playing this and everybody else
is really big and I'm trying this is a it's
a it's a great story man, because like it was
me before I learned how big I could become. Like
now I go so big that directors and ship will
be like, hey, could you just tone it back a

(40:09):
little down? Bring it down? But I mean I saw
that Alicia had a Super Bowl commercial as well with
with Alsa Donovan, both of them from It was very
nice as since she was one of my biggest crushes.
I was very happy to see her back in the
in the yellow outfit amazing too. They both looked beautiful
and Alicia's uh so funny and um I like her

(40:31):
a lot. Yeah. Um okay, So when we take a
break and we come back, um, we're gonna talk about
how um um u Ed that's his name, edwar Ed
wears gloves to sleep so he had soft hands. We'll
be right back, and we're bad. We are back, everybody,

(40:58):
and I'm giving you noises that you all love so much.
Fuck your sound machine. Sound hold on you want that
one ago, I'll give it to you, baby. Hold on.
That's in bank B. You won't believe it. How many
banks post? Too many banks? I need I need to

(41:19):
I really need Daniel to come over and consolidate the banks.
You're like, how's it going over and consolidate banks? Yeah?
I need bank consolidation down. I got you. I need
a tech who could come over and go, bro, you
got too many banks? Shut it. Dog, my name is Zachy. Okay, so, um,

(41:44):
everyone puts their hands in because JD is going to
give the he needs a break from the interns. He says,
hold down the ICU floor. I'm out of here. And
they put their hands in and they say, and I say,
somebody has soft hands, and a ZI says, I sleep
in gloves. And then we put our hands up and

(42:05):
say nobody die. Um, that's our that's our cheer. So
nobody dies, and then um, okay, we should mention also
that Carla and um Elliot's storyline is that Elliot's Carlos
trying to be honest with Elliott and say that she's
whiny and self involved. Well, Elliott is. Elliott notices Katie

(42:30):
and they call her many Elliott, and and Travis calls
her many Elliott. And that's what the whole hospital is saying.
And Elliot's like, wait a second, I'm not self centered.
And Cox is like, actually, you're very self centered. You're
probably the most self centered person I've ever met. And

(42:54):
it strikes a nerve with Elliott and she, you know,
her and Carla go to dinner and at dinner, she
can't believe that Cox said that, and she expects Carlo
to back her up, and instead of backing her up,
Carlo agrees with Cox. Yeah, and that's that's their storyline.
Sometimes sometimes that's the storyline for the whole show. Sometimes

(43:15):
the truth isn't what you want to hear. You know what, right,
and that people that you are close to you and
respect you will you should be open to what they
have to say. Well, yeah, there's a saying like if
enough people tell you you're drunk, sit down, that's what's up.
And so this the episode is Yeah, the theme is

(43:37):
sort of telling, telling hard truth to people. So Carlo
is like, yeah, you are. Look what you did to Keith,
Look what you've Look what's been going on in your life.
You are self involved and Elliott is not having that. Um,
we see that Kelso is all is perched up in
coffee Bucks and that's where he's gonna be every single day.
He's announced he doesn't want to leave the hospital. I

(43:59):
guess he comes there for the drama. He loves to
watch the show, right, That's what we established that in
retirement he likes to sit there and watch the soap
opera of the hospital unfold. Why is Turk in the
ICU all the time? Like, what the fuck? He's a surgeon,
Like why is he always hanging out? And I'm sure
he has to do consults and decide if someone's going

(44:22):
to go to surgery and what have you. I don't know,
I'm a fake doctor. But also it's because it's a
comedy and we like Turk. That is true. That's one
of the main sets. Best See and his wife are
too pe like, yeah, let me just stretch my heels
out over here. Yeah, it's everyone's hospital. Everyone's sort of
based in the ICU because they that's sort of the

(44:43):
main one of the main sets. That's where we do rounds.
What's crazy is that nine point nine percent of shows
you all listeners watch, Um, that would be a set.
But that's a real ICU. I know you'll forget. We
forget sometimes that we were shooting this in an abandoned hospital,
but that was really the ICU of a hospital. I mean, think,

(45:03):
what's crazy as we shot a comedy in there, and
think how much happened in that room. Let me ask
you a question. Can you say you visited every room
in that hospital? No? Yeah, me neither. But I definitely
explored every inch of it because I explored a lot
of it. I never, you know what, when it got
to like the children's ward and like the and like

(45:27):
the Morgan stuff. Yeah, I didn't fuck around. But we
shot in the morgue, but I would never go in
the morgue alone. I remember, like, I remember being down
in the basement alone and I could never go in
the morgue alone, but I would explore. Eventually they turned
some room into the gym down there. Yeah, I think
it was the morgue. That wasn't the Morgan That wasn't

(45:50):
I don't know what that room was, but it was
a big room in the basement they converted to a gym.
That line where Turk says, Carla has spies everywhere, Yeah,
that is my wife, yo, Really she has spies everywhere.
Oh my god, I can't do nothing. I take a
ship in the forest. My wife was like, you know
that squirrel told me about what you did in a bar.

(46:14):
She don't play. She just don't. I don't know, man,
she knows everybody. Man. At one point, like, I forget
this all the time, But at one point, my wife
was really fucking famous, you know what I mean? And
I forget that, and I forget because she was on
the context. Um, she was on the newly Wins right,
is that what it was called? Yes, Jessica Simpson and
her husband had a reality show and Casey was her

(46:36):
best friend. Jessica Simpson and her ex husband Nicola Shay
had a reality show and Casey was her assistant. Did
you watch the show? By the way, I've never seen
the show in March, so you didn't know that she
was reality TV show famous when you had a crush
on her, I had no clue. All I knew was
that she would be at the club, shaking her ass
all the time. I thought she was cute, that's it.

(46:58):
And you must have known she was his best friend
because she was always next right right, and I knew
that she that she was Jessica's best friend. I remember
asking somebody looking at a picture, yo, who is that
and the person going as Casey Cobb, like like, yo,
you don't know who that is, Doug and yeah. So
she was also very popular because she has an amazing personality,

(47:19):
so everybody, she nard a lot of people, right, but
she got spies everywhere because of her connections, like because
of the people that she knew. Back then, I go
to a gym and people are like, I'm not known
as like I tell his joke all the time. I'm
not known as Donald Fayson. Ever, I'm always known as
somebody else's something or the name of a show. So

(47:43):
I was known as clueless. I was known as freaking
Pete to all football players. I'm known as freaking Black
Scrubs to a lot of Scrubs fans, or Turk to
Scrubs fans, Yeah crazy right, And then to like the
Hollywood world and stuff like that, I'm known this Casey's husband,
like that shit is just how it goes, dude. I

(48:04):
walked into a gym and somebody was like, oh, yeah,
you Casey's husband. I was like, what, She's got spies everywhere.
I went to breakfast at Salts Cure for brunch and
a woman came in wearing a UCLA sweatshirt and she
said to me, Oh, I saw your buddy at the
game the other day. I guess you went to a
UCLA game. I did, yeah, yeah, your buddy. Do you

(48:28):
know what they say? You know what they say when
they see me? Oh shit, you know what I just was.
I just saw Zach Braff. They bud. They never say
your buddy. It's always Zach Braf. Dude, you know what
a joke I'm gonna tell the joke. I gotta tell
the joke. You know the joke. So here's a joke. Wow,
No one said joke that many times in one sentence ever.

(48:50):
Cut that down, Daniel, cut the jokes down. I first
moved to Hollywood and I do a show called Clueless,
and no matter where I go, I'm known as Clueless.
Then I get Scrubs and I meet Zach and I'm
taking Zack out to clubs and people would be like,
oh shit, there goes Clueless and clueless, but his friend

(49:12):
Zackt's garden state. Yeah, the no bullshit, Zackt's garden state.
Then it then becomes oh shit, there goes Zach Braff
and look he's with Clueless. That's my fucking life. Yo,
that's how it goes. That's how it is. And now
you said they call you T mobile guy, they do

(49:32):
call me T Look. I'll take it too, bro, Look
I'll take it. Somebody said to me the other day, yo, man,
you look so familiar. Where do I know you from?
I was like, oh, my actor, I was on a
show called Scrubs, and you know I did a movie
called Clueless. And he's like, oh no, that's not a
T Mobile. I came out of a restaurant in in

(49:53):
LA called Craigs, which is a really good time place,
and this paparazzo guy took my picture as I was
getting in my car, and when he was done, he
turns me. He's like, yo, yo, should I really switch
the Team Mobile? Yes? Please continue to let me get paid, sir.
That's funny. Like as though we're like as though I

(50:16):
have like a pamphlet in my pocket. I should start
carrying it around. Yeah, here are the plans, sir. All right.
So I again, JD doesn't know what to say to her,
and so he says he doesn't want to say that
you know she's hot because he's just nervous. And he says,
you look like a well built, sturdy woman. She's like sturdy,

(50:40):
she says, like a shed and he I go like
a like a naughty She goes, I like that, I
go like a naughty structure, structure. And then she asked
the janitor. She finally has a show down with the
janitor because she's not down with the Shenanigans. And she
sees that his name tag says the janitor, and then

(51:03):
she fires him. Yeah, I mean the janitor gets fired,
but he doesn't leave the hospital. No, he has no
intention of leaving. By the way, when when when when
she finally says, catches him later, he's like he's holding
a screwdriver to nothing. He's he's just he's on the
ladder and it's like you know those drop ceiling like
whatever they are, asbestos paneled things that are in hospital.

(51:26):
He's just holding a screwdriver to it, just trying to
look busy, he's not doing it. Um okay. So we
also learned that Keith is really still devastated. I mean
he's he's trying to he's trying to act like he's
not hurt. And then they dropped this line, which was

(51:47):
which was which was good writing. Um. Ted says, oh,
he has to take a he has to take an
anti anxiety pill to be able to talk to Elliott,
and he waits for it to kick in, and he says,
no one wants the person who hurt them to ever
see how badly they've been hurt. Yeah. I had that

(52:07):
reaction too, to Ted drop a knowledge on Sarah. Yeah,
that's a tough one right there. Bro. So, so Keith
is hiding he's pain because he's trying to act normal
and okay, and then we cut to Jimmy, do you
want to let me ask you a question? Is do
you want to see how hurt that person is? Oh?

(52:29):
I don't think anyone If you're the person who's doing
the breaking up, you don't want to see the pain
you're causing anybody. Oh you're saying, what are you saying
the opposite? If no, I'm saying, so nobody wants to
see how nobody wants the person who hurt them to
know how hurt they really are. But if you hurt somebody,
do you want to see how if you and unintentionally

(52:52):
hurt somebody, don't you want to see how you've hurt them?
You know what I mean, so that you can correct that. Well,
I hear you're saying, I don't think anyone wants to
obviously be see that they nobody wants to be the
cause of her. But you're saying, but you're but you're saying,
unless you see they've heard, then you can't Then you
don't have to make it right. Yeah, right right? And

(53:15):
uh and so you she but I mean it's so
hard with with with breakups and couples. I mean, she
they work at the same place. It's so tricky, you know,
because then all of a sudden, all of those things
that you guys used to do now is inappropriate, you
know what I mean, all of a sudden. Also, it's
just it's not only inappropriate, but it's like now, I mean,
it's so cringe. You have to work together and you

(53:37):
have to see each other, then you have to see
that person start dating, and it's in your face Okay,
how about Jimmy the touch overly touchy um, orderly massaging
Courtney's face. That was funny, That was hilarious. It's a
lot of I don't know if I would allow a
lot of the things that the over touchily orderly did.
He couldn't get away with doing. No, no, no, this

(53:59):
was two thousand and what nine Joel eight, Yeah, I
think we're two thousand and nine. Now, yeah, I don't
think he'd be touching my breathe on my face, would
get well, breathe on my face is like post COVID
no one saying that now it gets you fired. But
he's also like fully molesting Ted on the floor. Yes
the case, Ted got a case, but the chief of

(54:22):
the chief of the hospital is probably not gonna have
their face massage by an orderly Well, he got fired
for doing that. Oh he didn't get fired, but he's
he must get rehired. I think everybody. I think the
janitor is gonna well, obviously the janitor spoiler alert, I forgot.
I didn't remember the january getting actually fired. So the

(54:43):
janitor has made a key. She says, give me your keys,
and he holds up one key and she goes where
all the other keys, and he said, I got tired
of holding them all, so I made everything work up
for this one key. And then he starts a motorcycle.
Is that Sasha scycle? Sasha a little blue vespel want
to be this is a real motorcyle. But then the
janitor comes in with the freaking files locked in his suit,

(55:06):
in his briefcase, and he's like, I had the files
for I had the stuff for the patient in my briefcase,
but I locked it in there. And she takes said
key and opens up his briefcase. Everything everything, even a
tiny briefcase, lock, a motorcycle, every door in the hospital.
How did he do that? How did he do that?
Who did how did he get all of those locks

(55:28):
and changed? He well, I guess in the real world
you'd have to change every lock, including everytorcycle. But in
the Scrubs world, he just had to make a magical key.
That's not a fantasy, that is real life. He made
a magical key. So Cox has a heart to heart

(55:51):
with JD about how he's handling his great scene. Yeah,
that was a good scene. I like that scene. Both
seems the Keith and Ellie. It seemed very touching, and
then the Cox and j D seem very touching. Yeah,
thank you. You know, we've been waiting for this moment
because it's bound, it was bound to happen. We were
waiting for this moment, and it finally happens where Cox

(56:13):
looks at JD as a peer and not just as
someone who's beneath him as you know what I mean.
He looks at him as a competent doctor. And it's
not a lesson. The lessons that are coming JD's way
now aren't hard lessons anymore. Now it's more of a

(56:34):
conversation and if JD can and if JD hears it
in the conversation, and there it is. But for the
most part, Cox is no longer going to coddle JD.
And that's what That's what that scene meant to me,
you know what I mean, I'm not gonna fucking do
all of that other shit that you you want, the
hard truth that's not coming anymore. What's coming your way
is motherfucker. I'm scared too. I'm over to ship too.

(56:56):
This is what life is though, you know what I mean.
We were all trying to be find something new and
I think these new actors brought something fun and new,
and and Courtney brought something fun and new, and you
know it was it was Z's definitely. To keep in mind,
we were all like, it wasn't like we're on a
back lot where where you're gonna mingle and meet new people.
And you know, we we were all in this abandoned

(57:18):
the hospital in the valley. Yeah, so we met no
one like we would see no one, no one, no,
because who the hell would visit I mean fans aside,
like nobody, nobody's when you're on a back lot, you
like run into other casts, you meet other crews. When
you're in an abandon hospital, like, no one comes to
visit you at all. The executives didn't even come to visitors, no,

(57:41):
Like why would they want to come to an abandoned hospital.
But I mean, don't get it twisted. I realized then
and realized now, But I realized then how lucky I
was to be on a television show. But at this
point I remember being like burnt, Yeah, you know what
I mean. And again you start to a question like
I don't want to you want to come out on top,

(58:02):
You don't want to, like you don't want to like
drive it into the ground, or you're like, oof, is
we're jumping the shark kind of Fonzi stuff. You know,
Fawnzi jumping the shark on his skis on this no motorcycle. No,
he was water skiing, was water skiing. That's right, he
jumped over. You can't jump. I guess you could jump
a shark on a motorcycle, but you'd have to didn't
he you have I don't know, I don't know, but Fonzi, um,

(58:25):
it was wearing a leather jacket. Um when he was
on his water skis. I don't know if you know that.
It's also the do you know that trivia that when
Fonzi does jump the shark in Happy Days, he's still
wearing his Fawnzi leather jacket. That's how popular that show was.
That show was so popular that at its demise, when

(58:46):
it when it finally reached its worst moment, people were
still like it jumped the shark. Well, well, no, jump
the shark didn't become a term until much later. But
I remember for kids it was I didn't I didn't
know anything about something becoming stale. I was like, Fonzi's
gonna jump a shark. Yeah, oh, no doubt, no doubt,

(59:07):
I'm no doubt he's so cool shit, no doubt. But
but it's it's it's Is it not an a dictionary?
It should be if it's not. No, it became someone
someone I forgot. I don't know the genesis of it, Daniel,
maybe you do. But someone eventually said, uh, called it
like made it made it a term for when I

(59:28):
show is has reached its limit and now it's gone
beyond what how great it used to be? Yeah, it
peaked and now you're on your down and so and
and and the example of Fawnsie jumping a shark on
Water's keys was like what a leather jacket? Arty, Yes, Dane,
go ahead, got an answer for you. Yeah. The idiom
jumping the shark was coined in nineteen eighty five by
John Hine in response to the nineteen seventy seven episode

(59:51):
of Happy Days in which Fonzie jumps a shark. Ye.
Happy Days was nineteen seventy seven. I don't know. We
were watching rerun. We were watching rerun. Bro's true for
a lot of shows we loved. There's a lot of
shows that we loved growing up like that. I thought
were like being shot at the time, but we were
watching the syndicated reruns. Well, I knew The Honeymooners was

(01:00:12):
an old show. No Honeymoons, New Beaver. And I'm not
talking about the Honeymooners, dude, I'm talking about like stuff
like Threes Company that those were reruns. We won't we won't.
You know, as a kid, I thought those were being
those were new. All right, let's wrap it up. The
janitor is fired. We learned there's a new janitor hired

(01:00:33):
who couldn't be a sweeter old man. He's just a
nice let me know if I can help you. Yeah,
and then we have in credits. Oh wait, before we
get to that with just the final thing that we
learned that um Courtney Cox's character is in fact just
a bit a stereotypical hospital executive. She wants all the

(01:00:56):
money she can get out of this patients. Okay, I'm
not exactly sure what that reference is, but um, there
you go. She's trying to get all the money she
can out of him. And then, yes, as Donald said,
there's a new thing on ABC. Instead of them playing
the theme music and going through stills of funny stills

(01:01:17):
from that episode, there's now like a little coda, a
little tiny scene over the credits, and in this particular
was really weird. And this one we talk about doctor Shalube.
We talk about the Nielsen's and they're all plays on
like Monk is doctor Shalub, because yeah, Shalub would win

(01:01:38):
every award, Emmy every year he would win the Emmy.
And then the Nielsen's little I mean, we talk talk
about it all the time on the podcast, but Scrubs
was never a big hit. Yeah, don't know what the
Nielsen's are. It's the rating system and helps you extrapolate
how many people are watching the show. And so we
do a joke like even though the Nielsen's seemed to differ,

(01:02:00):
and then we cut to a couple that's named the
Nielsen's and they and they disapprove of They're shaking their heads.
They're like, we don't like you guys. Um. Two things
I learned on Scrubs wicky about this um that there's
a moment where Sarah flashes uh in a bar, a flashback,
and and she says, Oh, what's the worst that can happen?
And then we see that it's made it to a

(01:02:21):
DVD it's like it's like a Girl's Gone Wild type
flashing DVD. And I learned on scrubs Wiki that, um,
the stars that are over Sarah's bress, ABC demanded that
they be made bigger, and when Sarah heard that, she
claimed that it made her very happy that she apparently

(01:02:47):
tells that story on the DVD. And also a little
interesting a tributae because of Courtney Cox's schedule, all of
the scenes involving her in the show, We're shot towards
the end of season eight, so we we shot all
the episodes, um, all the stuff that didn't involve Courtney Cox,
and then saved Courtney Cox scenes for that. How did

(01:03:10):
we do that? So she never has scenes with A
Z's Then why do you say that because A Z's
only lasts about three episodes on this on the show
this year. Oh that might that might be true. I
don't know. Well, well we'll see, but I know that
I just read that, and I remember that are being
a thing with Courtney, like she wasn't available until later,
So we just we just would shoot everything except Courtney scenes,

(01:03:33):
and then we circled back and picked up Courtney stuff.
So there you go. There's the first episode of season eight. Everybody, Um,
I hope you enjoyed that. Joel, do we have some
submissions for today? Yeah, we can do some submissions, okay,
and we're gonna take a break, and when we come back,
we are going to listen to some submissions for new
podcast ideas, which we need and a new TV show

(01:03:55):
idea will be right back after these fine words. You're bad.
Go ahead, fuck your sound effects machine. Why I gotta be,
Why I gotta be so a gro with it? Zach

(01:04:17):
and Donald Gay newlyweds in house arrest all right, it's
time to hear something that could possibly beat that Zach
and Donald Gay newlyweds in house arrests. I don't I
don't know how you can beat that. Yeah, no chat
gebet today. I have no idea if people are enjoying
that on Daniel and Joel. Do you know if anyone
likes those things. I've seen a couple of comments being
like very positive, but let us know, guys, also if

(01:04:39):
you have suggestions for what we should put into the
chat box that you would like to hear more. Yeah,
I'm not. I'm not on Twitter anymore, but Joel and
Daniel are and so let them know. If you like
the chat GEBT thing, Um, we want to serve you.
I thought Sarah was fabulous last week. So yeah, I
think the chat cheek and chee thing is funny and
I I usually finds a good barometer if if we

(01:05:03):
laugh at it, then other people will laugh at it.
So I don't know. We can we can, We'll see what,
We'll see what people say. Daniel will look on, Daniel
will look on the reddits and the twitters. I still
laugh at Zack and Donald the gay Newlywoods and House Arrest. Yeah,
I don't know how to beat that. But we're not
allowed to play gay. We're not allowed to play gay Donald.
I'm sorry, Oh those days are over. Well, some people

(01:05:25):
are allowed to play gay. It's confusing, but I'm okay.
But it's hold on. Yeah, so if you're not gay anymore,
you cannot play gay in a movie. Well, there's a
debate about that. Let's wait. Let a member of the
queer community way in. But there is a debate. I've
spoken to some gay show creators who who side on

(01:05:49):
the other side of some of the gay community and
say that they don't believe in that. But Joel as
a queer representative, can you tell Donald? The debate? Sure.
So the debate is that frequently, particularly people who present
is gay just as they show up, have difficulty getting
cast outside of like stereotypical gay roles, even if they
have the range right. So the thought, and I think

(01:06:12):
it's a beautiful thought, is well, let's leave gay roles
to gay people. To me, the issue with that is
sexuality is not a concrete thing. People fluctuate. Some people
learn about their queerness through their art and performing and
trying different things, And so to leave out people who

(01:06:34):
are not currently out of the closet, I think limits
what the queer experience can look like on screen, and
I think that's dangerous. What I really like is what
Craig Mazen did and the last of us in it.
You know, you have one actor who's gay and out
and one actor who's straight and married to a woman.
But Craig major that the director was gay and that

(01:06:56):
the writer was gay, and that there were additional gay
people on the crew. And he also went to a
bunch of gay people to read the scripts before they
went into production, and by doing that he allowed a
full queer experience on screen without you know, having anyone
default to you know, stereotypical lists or you know, caddy
fights or whatever. It felt like an authentic relationship, um

(01:07:19):
my stances. If you can involve as many queer people
as possible, and if you have an actor who respects
the queer community, then I don't see a problem with
expanding beyond that in your casting right here. But there's
there's there's plenty of people as well, said Joel. I
do we should mention there's there's there are plenty of
queer people I believe who disagree with you. That is correct? Yeah,
all right, Joel, what do you have for us? Okay, Well,

(01:07:41):
before you get into it, I want to make sure
I'll give one person a shout out. Donald and I
had the privilege of speaking to a gentleman who donated
to an amazing cause that wounded warriors that Jake Tapper does.
Jake Tapper them seeing an anchor man does a charity
every year for wounded warriors, and one of the prizes
an auction off, is a thirty minute FaceTime with Donald

(01:08:04):
and I, which which was fun because it went for
it went for twenty million dollars. People, that's how famous.
That's how famous we are. I don't know how much
it went for, but I want to give a shout
out to Ari named Moten, who's a radiologist who gave
the donation to a wounded warriors and Donald and I
had an awesome thirty minute chat with him and it
was a lot of fun. He listened to the podcast

(01:08:26):
he's listening right now. And he also had he had
a good, really funny idea kind of like it was
almost like a multiverse idea of scrubs, like saying, taking
the characters and putting them into and in his particular pitch,
it was the world of theater, like keeping the same
relationships between the characters, but make them all like they're
they're they're putting on a production of Doctor Acula. Right.

(01:08:47):
He was like he was like he was like put
them in different and then we turned it into something
like completely different where it was like, look, what if
they're characters, they're always the same people from the show.
Now they're playing in different scenarios, so like like like um,
like I'm like um quantum leap. Right, So instead of
a hospital, it's a it's a law firm or a

(01:09:10):
police station one episode, and they're never the same people,
but they're always in this relationships. The relationships are the same.
It's almost like Quantum Leap, Quantum Leap meets what was
the Marvel TV show and then it goes to Yeah,
it's almost like it's almost like juand Division meets Quantum Leap,

(01:09:34):
where the characters are all the same, they have all
the same relationships, but they're jumping between different television styles.
So one time we're on we're on a spaceship and
Cox is like the tough captain and kelso you know,
owns the ship and and you know, you know that
that kind of thing, you know what I'm saying, And
then you could jump and we're in a sitcom, and
then it could jump and we're in like a legal drama.

(01:09:57):
It was amazing. It was a really cool idea. That's
what Donald i off of Ari's idea. So that was fun.
Love it. So now we're gonna hear somebody else's idea. Yes,
let's hear it. Zack and Donald a gay newlywed in
house Arrest Perfection. This is Room Caleb, Hello, Zack, Donald,
Joel and Twitch dot TV slash DJ Underscore Danel Caleb

(01:10:21):
calling from street or Louisiana, long time, first time. Unfortunately
I don't have an Australian accent, so I feel like
I gotta know I'm working against the current here. But
I've listened every episode you guys have had so far,
and I gotta tell you keeps me happy, keeps me entertained,
keeps me laughing, you know, gets me through my workouts
and my runs. And I'm really sad to hear you

(01:10:42):
guys are coming to the end of the episodes for Scrubs.
But I'm really excited about the new direction you guys
are thinking about taking, and I really want to suggest
a new idea. It's a baking podcast. Donald's mentioned a
couple of times that he's been really into baking lately,
talking about his pies and some other stuff he's made.
The best part of this idea is the name, and

(01:11:03):
that's bakerd Tart. Can go buy bakerd Tart because guy,
I feel like he's started with that can bring up
celebrity chefs. Even I know there's a lot of shows
about baking, like The Great British Bake Off and Cake Boss,
I Love Cupcake Wars, and probably a bunch of other

(01:11:25):
ones that I'm forgetting right now, but uh, no podcast
that I know of, you guys can be you're participating
God's lettuce. Maybe you know, make it older, more interesting
category best dish overall, and then best dish while partaking
in God's Lettuce. I don't know something like that. Yeah,
happy to hear from you guys. Love that you guys

(01:11:47):
are continuing the podcast and thinking about bringing it forward
even beyond Scrubs. Thanks, I hope all as well. Thank you.
Out shout out Caleb from I Think Caleb. I think
Caleb may have been high when he came up with you.
You think so, Baer. I feel like he came up

(01:12:09):
with baker Tart and then worked his way backwards into
a baking show. He was like Donald's ears perked up
when he said baking show, thinking it was gonna be
about getting baked. Well, he said baking show and God's
let us in the same fucking sentenced and me had
a hello. He had me right then and there. I love.

(01:12:30):
I love to bake. I love I don't necessarily watch
baking shows. That's too long. I prefer like the TikTok's
or the Instagram posts that you know, Yeah, that's what
the kids are calling it, right, TikTok? Are you on TikTok? Donald? No?
I didn't think so. But anyway, I like to watch, like,

(01:12:51):
you know, there's this one guy who's like, let's do
some cooking, and then there's this other guy who's like,
uh and as always now and I like him. Uh,
there's there's other dude. There's like, there's a couple of
people that are out there that do Instagram cooking. And
if you follow the recipe because they give it to
you really well, you can make it and it works

(01:13:13):
and my kids eat it. Um. And that's really how
I learned to cook, by watching videos on Instagram or
on the thing that they called the TikTok. Well, um,
I'm not really interested in baking, Caleb. Thank you for
your suggestion. Don't cook. I don't want them to do
a podcast cooking, but you seem like we don't cook.
I don't cook. But you seem like a really nice fellow.

(01:13:35):
And and thank you for your suggestion. Joelle, what so
it's not even it's the white board. Let's put it
that way. All right, Let's move on, Joel, what is
the idea for a TV show for Donald and I

(01:13:56):
here we go. This is from Zach. Oh we like
them already. Oh Zach with a self submission. Hey, Joel, Daniel, Donald,
and Zach. My name is also Zach, and I have
a pitch for a TV show for Zack and Donald.
Go ahead, homey Spamoni too, spaghetti and lots of balls.
I don't do that. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Donald is

(01:14:18):
a very famous, successful actor working on a big time project,
maybe a film in La or a show on Broadway.
In the middle of filming or rehearsing for this project,
Donald does something to get himself canceled. Nothing terrible or egregious,
but maybe something absurd, like someone filmed him gambling on
a fart and shitting his pants during a rehearsal that
goes viral and it attracts some negative attention to the

(01:14:39):
project and its producers, which gets him fired after that anymore,
and then his work drives up, his life falls apart,
and he's forced to move in with a relative, maybe
a mom or a sister or a cousin back home
in small town little Lass, Colorado. A few weeks of
sulking around the relative's house drives his host crazy and

(01:15:02):
they encourage him to get out and look for work.
He notices a flyer for a local community theater production
of something and scoffs at first, but once encouraged to
check it out, he recalls his early career fondly, before
the money and attention, when it was about fun and art.
He decides to check it out the theater, or more
probably a high school gym. He meets the local community

(01:15:24):
theater director and egotistical, self important tyrants played by Zach.
Perhaps part of the reason Zach's character is so arrogant
is because he has what he thinks is an ace
up as sleeve, an authentic British actor hey Brett Goldstein.
Unable to say no to having a big name in
his production, Zach casts Donald, but the two constantly butt heads.

(01:15:46):
Donald has a very clear inside knowledge about acting and
directing that small time Zach cannot allow his ego to appreciate. Meanwhile,
Zach whips the rest of the local actors, all of
whom are terrified of his authoritarian style of directing, its
ridiculous acting exercises and warm ups and so on. Conflict
between Zack and Donald ensues. They eventually find common ground

(01:16:07):
in a very heartfelt, scrubsy and way and finally put
on a performance that they're excited about. The play opens
up for the local community theater goers in Little Lass,
It's awful. The audience is not receptive. The production choices
are weird and silly and ridiculous. People hate it. But
for Zack and Donald and the rest of the casting crew,
it's a formative experience in getting back in touch with

(01:16:29):
the heart that goes into theater. And I've been connecting
with people again. Let me see if I can call
back my guy, Stephen Brandon, Zack and Donald our arrival
Thespians in a little last play, looking to have some
white or dreams come true. I've always wanted to work
in a writer and breaking stories. So say the word
and I'll draft the manuscript for this pilot right now.

(01:16:52):
It would be a dream come true to learn that
craft from Bill and from Brett Goldstein. I'm just putting
that out there into the universe, shooting my shot. I
love every thing that y'all do, and I can't wait
for what you do next. Thanks for listening. Well that
was great, really well done. Well, I gotta say what's
his name? Sorry? Zack Oh yeah, how can I forget that?
Zach very well presented so for someone who has aspirations

(01:17:13):
of getting into the business. I thought you did a
really good job. I thought was a good quick pitch.
I like that. I'm the star of this one too.
I don't like that my character is an asshole that
I already hate. Well, no, but we get together at
the end and we make something special, at least to us.
It's like high school musical meets like fame. No, it
sounds like a Goffman. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like the

(01:17:37):
Mighty Ducks too. Like you know what I mean, say
the area I like, I like, I would like I
like the area of you know, kind of like Ari's
idea that we're we switched to like doing a play,
like the world is of like putting, like you know,
behind the scenes of putting on something. I like that area. Um,
that's funny for for Donald and I to do. Um.

(01:17:59):
I think the world of small time theater hasn't really
been lampooned better than Goffman. Um. That's probably the best
version of it ever. Yeah, it's pretty hard to beat Goffman.
But we wouldn't be that tone. We would That's sort
of a mockumentary. We wouldn't we wouldn't be that tone.
But I don't know. I'm open to UM. I think

(01:18:19):
I don't know. It was also good living in Oblivion
that it was amazing, love living BLI that's spoofing the
world of making independent movies. Shout out Tom Till. If
you like UM indies and you like behind the scenes stuff,
watch Living in Oblivion. It's it's the it's the funniest
spoof of how hard it is to make an independent movie.

(01:18:42):
Do we have a lockup? Do we have a real lockup?
That ever? I use that on everything. Look, dude, but
we've been doing scrubs. I would say that, shit, do
we have a lock up? Because sometimes the lock up fails?
Do we have a real lock up? And then every
single morning they put the mic under him, he'd go,
sound this is my lavel. Um all right, everybody, thank

(01:19:06):
you so much. That's uh. We're off to a start
with season eight. We appreciate you. We thank you for listening. UM.
If you haven't yet, please check out the trailer for
a Good Person. It's on the YouTube's UM coming out
in March twenty fourth at a theater near you also, yes, Donald,
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(01:19:28):
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