Get Into Our Car, Heather Graham!

Heather Graham gets out of our dreams and into our podcast. She tells us about working with the Coreys, Vince Vaughn, Eddie Murphy, and Mark Wahlberg on her second visit to the show. Zach and Donald play crooners and sing to the woman of our dreams. She talks about adding her iconic skates from Boogie Nights to the Academy Museum, and what it was like to be part of the pop culture experience that was Austin Powers. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys? I missed just so much it hurts.
Sometimes you're so full of shit.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
You left l Well, you're hanging out with Daniel right now.
Daniel could have ran over to your house.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I watched the first YouTube video and I really didn't
like my hair. So I'm just gonna have to let
it go. Let it go, let it go.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Everyone's first reaction when they are video hits YouTube, They're like,
we got a new stylist.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Don't like it, Like we're hiring makeup to every single incident.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
We gotta change you new better outfits.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, the reality of it, I think is well. I
was excited that it happened, don't get me wrong, but
I was obsessing about my hair, and I was like,
I can't. I'm not gonna be able to watch these
I'm too neurotic and in vain to be watching.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm really nervous to put these motherfuckers to see the
old shit when that hits the air and they see
how many times I wear how many times I wear
that damn sweatshirt?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Right, we weren't even trying then. I mean, there wasn't
any knowledge that those were going to be on the interweb.
So we didn't put any effort into like, at least
putting on a nice shirt like zero.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, at least I'm wearing T shirts now. I said,
you know what, I'm gonna step up my game a
little bit. No more, motherfucking y.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I love that sweatshirt. I think the audience should make an.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Appearance here and there and stuff like that. But I
got to wear T shirts And then I started thinking,
do I need to cut my hair?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's really look great? You look great? By the way,
our new T mobile ad is running and uh and
I hear it. You haven't seen it. I hear it's
doing really well. I heard I heard from the from
the Big mcgilla's.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
What they say. They said, tell me everything I want
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Just that people really like it. They got a great
response from it. All you need to worry about is
whether the people like it enough for them to keep
hiring us to do more. And I feel like that's
happening well because it's fun. And that's and this one's
super silly. If you haven't seen this one, there's a
there's a moment where Donald's painting, and its supposed to
the joke he is that he's an amazing painter, and

(02:02):
he's painted me as a minotaur or a centaur. What's
the difference horse legs a centaur. Yeah, I'm a horse
body with a with a torso and I'm playing the
pan flute. What's a minotar mint? That's like I feel
like it's like mostly it's like a bowl, but it's
like bull legs human torso and then bull head. Well,

(02:25):
I'm a centaur and it's a beautiful painting that somebody
made me.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Hell is this dude? And motherfucking sorry, I hate to
do this. What is she and Narnia? Then?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh you're talking about like are you talking about the dear?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
He has like god deer.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
By goat boy's a fun guy.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Anyway, So listen, we made the ad, right, we made
the ad, and uh, I forgot if I brought this up.
If I did, I'm sorry. But I put the painting.
They gave me the painting and and I and I
said to myself, I'm only going to put this on
my mantlepiece for a little while as a joke. But
now it's been living there for a while and it's
pretty glorious.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, did they paint the pan flute.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, they put the pan flute. I'm playing the pan flute.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I love it. I love it. It's amazing. I love that.
We have a commercial on television.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, it's nice. Nice, it's nice. Donald, it's Donald.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
You haven't seen it. Or if they're international, what's happening
in the commercial.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'm sure they can look on the If you're international,
no you can even if you.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Can vs VPN whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, you just go on the YouTube and the commercial
is Uh. It's talking about how the why you can
get the Wi Fi anywhere. There's these expanders now and
you can get it like in your backyard. You can
get it in your man cave, in your garage. Like
it expands the home Wi Fi to every nook and cranny.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's like another dad spot is gone.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, and we sing it to the to the tune
of uh to what's the song gone Holiday Road from.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Vacation, Oh Man or net from Timo.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
But anyway, in one of the sketches, Donald is uh
is painting and actually there was a funny story, the
puppet story about how your puppet, your puppet purple.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
We should tell that story.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
So the guy who made the puppet rushed and was
doing it in like a.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Fluorescent lighting, fluorescent lightning.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
He'd had fluorescent lights in it. And uh so he
built zach. I guess he doesn't have a problem billet
making foam the color of pete white pet Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
But when it comes to black people.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
The fluorescent light wait. Wait. In his defense, in his defense,
this was funny. It was funny though, in his defense,
it was their last minute thing, like, oh, we want
them to be taking a Ventriloquist lesson on online. It'll
be funny if they have puppets that look like themselves.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
So you know in Hollywood they have puppet but not
vent triller Quist puppets, more like muppet puppet.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, but still a ventriloquist that you're doing this with
your hand thing.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, but the ventriloquist thing is that it is like
a dummy with a mouth just opens up and.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Closes like that, all right, like muppet puppets. And yes,
there we got You know, in Hollywood, if you got
the money, someone will make someone who makes anything will
stay up all night and make it for you. And
this guy did that and it was amazing that when
he turned out in twenty four hours. But because he
had made it, he explained later, under fluorescent lights, he
got Donald's skin tone totally wrong. So when it showed up, oh,

(05:30):
he didn.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Get your skin tone even close to wrong though, Like
your skin tone was like.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Purp anyway, Donald was purple, and and we were like, yo,
you can't air this, like you guys gotta like skin correct.
And everyone was like, don't worry, don't worry. When in
post production will make him the exact beautiful brown skin
that Donald has. And indeed they did, but no one

(05:54):
will never see purple Donald. With me, it was funny. Yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You want to know what's fucked up? It was eggplant
purple too.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, like the eggplant emoji. Dobly it goes deep, Joel,
how's life it goes? How's like? Everybody, what's going on?
What have you been doing? What have you been up to?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
So I went and saw Deadpool and Wolverine again again?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Second time? You really liked it?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Two times? I did, And I liked it better the
second time than I did the first time.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Joell, have you been yet?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, she has her feelings. Yeah she doesn't like Yeah, yeah,
Joelle has her feelings. Let her feel her feelings. Donald, Okay,
you saw it the second time. It's an important movie.
Do you really like it?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's not an important movie to me, but I did enjoy.
I did enjoy. I enjoyed the violence. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Did you bring your children toolence?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
They have also seen Somebody? Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Are you okay with showing your kids all that gore?
I guess yes.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's hard to hide any of the ship anyway because
it's in and I mean unless I keep them on
like Radio Disney.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Or some shit like that. I mean, you know, it's
impossible remind us how old your kids are. My kids
are eleven and nine.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
This seems reasonable to me.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I was watching equally violent as violent films at that age.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Dude, I was watching way worse.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I was watching sex scenes when I was young age
and stuff like that, like let's keep.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
It one hundred.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Did your mom not lean across you to try to
shield your eyes?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, I was watching the camera with the like where
it was scrambled and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Do you remember the first was the first pair of
boobs you saw in a movie?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Do you remember the first pair of boobs. It was
DC Cat maybe it was DC Cab, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
The mud wrestling scene and stripes it was the first
time I saw them.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was the shower scene in Porky's, which was a
peeping Tomson.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yes, yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Was great.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Kate Winslet and Titanic was the first time you saw boobies.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's a very tame, tame ten.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh my god, Donald, doesn't that make you feel old? Wait?
Does Kate Winslen show her naked breast in Titanic? She shows, yeah, yeah,
like one of her French girls.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
So does James Cameron's hand. No, she's like fully topless.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But she doesn't show her below the belt. Amercan area.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Never shows.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
That makes me feel really old that the first breast
you saw were in Titanic. Speaking of which, Donald and
I are on Millionaire tonight now that god yeah, God,
God knows when this is so good?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It was this isn't gonna this isn't gonna air tonight,
so we can.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Say that we will have we got as far as
we could. I'm proud of you guys.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Did anything across the alligator line from your last live
game show?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, no, no, they got us some some books, but
I had only watched this fucking show.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I was look, this is it was the It was
the David David beck When.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
We were in trouble, he brings up, he goes the
name of you.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It stars you know, David the soccer player, and Zach
and I both go, who the fuck is David?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like no, no, No. I was like, oh, I started
that fucking documentary and if I had only finished it,
I could have got us one more level.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And it was about I guess she's she I learned
through doing a Millionaire. She does a dance that in
the docum memory for David Posh spice that yeah, and
and Victoria Beckham and and then that became a TikTok trend.
And the question is what was the song? Do you
guys know the song? No?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, because none of y'all watch that bullshita.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you remember this moment she does dance for no yeah?
I do, but I don't remember what? All Right, Well,
you may have gotten it if you had four choices
in front of you, but maybe, but Donald and I
had not, had not seen it, and so we were
at a loss. No wait, and I think we pulled
the audience Donald and they.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
No, but this is what you made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
You went, you said, I think it's island.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You said, I think.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's that, which automatically made gives them and they told
us this backstage. Your best bet is to not say
which one you think it is right before they right
before you handed off to the audience, because you automatically influenced.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Influenced where we pulled the audience because and you did that,
and I said, all ze, Jimmy actually said, Jimmy said,
I think this is a good one to pull the
audience because the dock at the time we shot was
had been very very popular. And I agreed with Jimmy
because none of them but they know the poll ended
up being like the highest number in the poll was
thirty percent, and the next one was like twenty eight percent.

(11:29):
So we went with the thirty percent and it was wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
And the twenty eight percent was wrong too, though it
was yes, percent was wrong to the twenty eight percent
was the one that we were trying to go that
we were going back and forth with saying I think
it's this one.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
No, I think it's By the way, we were on
a tear for a second, we were on a tear
and it was such a high. You were on a tear, bro,
you were crushed.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
I was on, I was in the I was in
the lights like this we all.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I knew there was going to be a moment from
watching Millionaire and just regular Millionaire that there's a moment
where they just go, you're not getting our money. We're
going into the next level, Like fuck you. It's going
to be so hard. I knew we were going to
reach that spot. But to be taken out by not
knowing a song from a Beckham documentary that bummed me out.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But that's well, come on, that's how it goes. That's
what it is, man. That's like.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's like people saying they there's a legit amount of
people that have never seen Star Wars now, and it's acceptable.
It's acceptable. It ain't like the nineteen eighties anymore. If
it was nineteen eighty and you said eighty four and
you said I'd never seen Star Wars, I think everybody'd
be like, you're out of your fucking mind, bro, what
But it's you know, it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I've listening that you got. I have to recommend I
think I've said this in the podcast again everyone, you
can obviously read this book, but I'm really enjoying listening
to it because the guy who reads it's amazing. It's
called Easy Riders Raging Bulls, and it's all about the
filmmakers that came out of the late sixties and seventies,
including Donald's hero George Lucas, and there's fascinating stories about

(12:58):
after he made Cha and it wasn't a hit, he
was so pissed off. He wanted to make sort of
avant garde art science movies like that, and they were like,
come on, man, you got to make something commercial. And
he's like, oh, what is this copel and sid yes,
everyone said it to him.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You gotta His best friends were Spielberg.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
And everyone was like, dude, you're making movies that are
two avant guard there's gonna be no audience from you.
Gotta make something commercial. And he's like, it's so easy
to made a commercial movie. He's like, I can make
any I can make a commercial movie in a second.
And then he finally goes, all right, I'll show you,
and he makes American Graffiti and it's an enormously popular movie,

(13:41):
and he sort of proved everyone, and so then when
he finally made Star Wars, he figured out, like, oh,
let me blend those two skill sets making something commercial
but also in the sci fi world, Like anyway, I
think you'd love you'd love the Star Wars parts of
the book.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Donald, I'm gonna tell you something right now. I love
everything about George Lucas. I love his imagination. If it
wasn't for George Lucas's imagination, a lot of us that
are my age wouldn't have heroes like who we just
had on the podcast, Billy D Will Billy D. You know,

(14:14):
you know, things like that wouldn't exist, uh, because there
were I don't even think in Star Trek there were
black people you know at the.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Time, Yes there was.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's it. That's right. I take that back, cut that down.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I want you to leave it and prove that you're wrong.
We should also see The Bad Monkeys out. I don't
know when this is going to air, but Bad Monkeys
out and.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's definitely out by October.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's great reviews. I'm happy for Bill. It's crushing it
on the Rotten Tomatoes, which you never know which way
that's going to go. But Bill's killing it again.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Thunder Supplause, Daniel thundersuppl.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Friend, Lawrence, check it out. You're gonna really like it.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, I hear that.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
You're I'm in it. I'm in it for like a
handful of episodes. I can't really say much for my
character because everything involving my character is a spoiler. But
come check it out, everybody bad monkey on Apple TV.
You should probably let Heather Graham, the legendary, the legendary
actress in is she here?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Hell that beauty?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Before we do that seven stories, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
We made about a bunch of talks and nurses.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
I said, here's a story, so YadA round here, yeada here.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh wow? Why do you even begin with Heather Graham?
Her career is so epic.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I mean, I know where to begin.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Get out of my dreams, get him my baby, and
into my car. Heather has an incredible career that we
could spend five hours talking about. But it all began
with the two corries.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
It began before that, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
But but but when she began changing.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Lives shanging this was so good.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
You began changing lives, Heather, when you're when you showed
up with the two Corries.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
And the license to drive their first movie together.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Was that their first movie together?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I'm pretty she done lost boys. I think they did lost.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
They were older and lost there.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
You might be right.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Donald Donald knows his Corey's trivia.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Donald, you right, Joelle looking it up.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's why our beautiful producer will handle this. Heather, it's
so great to have you on the podcast. We love
you so much.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
You guys are so fun.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
I feel all your positive energy the minute you started
singing to me. I mean, this was amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, you're the perfect guest because not only were you
a part of Scrubs, but you have such an amazing
career where you've done so many different things.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
And of course, I tell you guys, recently, I've been
having a lot of Scrubs fans come up to me.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
All right.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I went to Italy like and the s girl was like,
I love Scrubs, you know, And I've had all these
different Scrubs people coming up to me.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
So Scrubs has made a big impact.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I mean, yeah, we're so good on the show.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
You were really funny on This was originally a rewatch podcast,
so we got to rewatch every.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
EPISO, and then you guys got too popular. Do you
guys just miss each other so you want to just
hang out all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yes, that's basically the point of this, Heather. It began
as a rewatch podcast, but then we ran out of
Scrubs episode. So then it was like, well, Donald is
so flaky that if I don't schedule a time to
see him once a week, I'll never see him. And
so this is basically so we hired iHeart to allow
us to see each other once a week, and then
we invite fun people that we love onto the show

(17:49):
and we shoot the shit with them for an hour
or so. But people like to know store genesis stories, Heather,
So we want to just go through some of the
beginning parts. How did was was it licensed to drive?
Your first big part movie?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Start? Okay, let's go all right.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I auditioned, I was in high school.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
I auditioned, and I you know, of course I was
a fan of the Quarries, and it blew my mind
that I got to work with the Quarries. Yeah, and
I got to drive onto the twentieth century Fox lot.
I mean, I'm sure you guys can relate like that.
First time you got your first big job and your
drive to work and like you have a pass and
you drive on You're like, they hired me.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
This is so crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You can't do before that?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Were you were? You? Were you?

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I did a few commercials, No I did. I did
a few commercials. I did a hair commercial.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Then I did a like a Disney Sunday Night movie
that actually O. J.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Simpson was in.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Them and the juice.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
What it was it was called Foreign Exchange and it
was about these two nerdy kids at school. They're so
nerdy and they pretend to be Foreign Exchange students so
they could you know, be cooler and get dates and
uh the other person it was and it was you
know that really successful director.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
His name is like Todd Field. Do you know him?
He did like in the Bedroom or yeah, Tom was
also acted in it. Yeah, am I saying his name wrong?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Todd Phillips, No, Todd Phillips.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Because him Joe Well will know and the hangover we're
going to get. She's worked with a lot of good directors,
Todd Field.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Todd Field a very successful director, just like Zach Brath.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right, So, well, I don't know about that. What were
the Cory's like I mean you were with them during
their Corey heyday were they were they nice men? Young boys?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I mean I think, look, they were a lot more
worldly than me.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
I basically was like going to high school parties.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
They were I think probably doing drugs, you know, like, uh,
Corey haym was dating Lala Zappa, who's so glamorous. Her
dad is like this rock star, and I just felt
like super like nerdy compared to them, right.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
And how old were you at that? How old were you?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Do you remember I was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I was seventeen, and you had beautiful curls. I remember
it was the eighties.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
So I really I did I have did I did
have a permit one point, but I really curled that
hair like a.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Lot, like it was just it was very curly.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, well I must have been flyering.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I'll never forget seeing that poster for the first time
with Corey Haynes holding the keys and freaking Fellman on
the other side, and then the freaking.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Your car.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's not even his car that's in the commercial. I
mean in the poster, it's your car that you drive
up in at the end of the movie with and
you and you and your poofy dress. I'll never forget
my first time seeing that and being like, I'm going
to see that movie.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Were no.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
High heels with socks on in that first you know,
because you doesn't want to wear socks with their high heels.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Donald and I were definitely the target demo. Were the
target demo for so many movies you were in, You've
been in.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Funny.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I feel like we've grown up together.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Right with you being a sex know you were, You've
been a sex symbol your whole career, and whenever you
were being a sex symbol, the marketing department was aiming
straight at Donald and me.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
They had.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
All right, So then you get a total opposite from
a commercial movie. You get like this indie mega hit,
uh Gus Van Sant drug Store Cowboy? How did and
you you, uh well, how did that come about? That
was that's like an indie classic.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, just auditioning, you know, I auditioned for it, and
uh you know how it goes with auditioning.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
It's terrifying. You never know if anyone will ever call
you back.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
But I got it, and so that kind of introduced
me to the arty world of cool independent movie right.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah. But It's interesting that right off the bat you
went you did two super polar ops. You did like
the ultimate commercial movie and it's a hit. And then
you go do like a little indie darling and it's
a hit. Like you must have been feeling yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
No, it was a really good It was not yeah,
because I mean also, look, it helped.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Me make money and become independent.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
I was like a little teenage girl and suddenly I
could just you know, pay for my life.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
It was.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
It was an amazing moment.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Then you get a really big Calvin Klein ad directed
by David Lynch. You really did a lot of research,
and she does research as a good producer does. But
a lot of this I knew. I didn't. I had

(22:45):
to do things.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
We remember all these things.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Not everything. I knew those two ones. But the Benithia
Thetoral commercial I had to go watch on YouTube. Watched,
of course, an audience, if you're listening, go watch the
YouTube commercial.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
They's very sexy Benicio commercial. Watching YouTube.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Watched the Calvin Klein commercial directed by David Lynch, starring
Benicio del Toro and Heather Gramm. It's very sexy.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
And I think this was before Benizio ever actually did
that anything.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Maybe it was just a he looked like a model.
I don't know if he was a known actor yet.
Was this probably.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Or after?

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, this was way before.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
This is probably like nineteen ninety one or something like that, or.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
He's around that time too. Yeah, same thing.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
You have a good memory, Donald.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I just remember about that.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I just remember my age.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
For he remember Mark Wahlberg's underwear commercials.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That was a well, yeah, those were very impact.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
That was every It was in Times Square. I grew
up in town.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
It really was.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And he looked grady. He had abs and yeah, that
was and I.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Remember every girl in New York was like and I
was like, shit, I need to get abs like that.
I've never been able to catch Mark Wahlberg though, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Never when I read an article about him and said
he gets up at like three thirty in the.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Morning, he gets up at like three thirty in the
morning to work out the fuck around.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
You guys work together.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, we're gonna get to that.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Don't rush, don't rush, let's slow down.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
I don't sing more songs, though, I'm hoping there's like
a little more more more songs from you.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
When we go to commercial break, we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, you'll get away, Heather. I want to talk to
Donald and I one of our favorite movies and I
just got to work with him for the first time,
But one of our favorite movies is Swingers, and you
were also in that again being the object of every
male's dreams, right, Donald, I.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Feel so I'm getting very flattered and uh, you know
he was being on I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Heather, you laugh, but this is I mean, there's a reason.
You know, it's not just you're beautiful, but your talent is.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, you're obviously it's very good at and you're very fine.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
It's so nice talking to you.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thanks tell us about Swingers because we love that movie.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Game a warm inside from this podcast what we do here?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Billy Billy Williams. Billy D. Williams felt the same way.
What do you tell us about the making of Swingers?

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, basically, I worked with John Favreau on this showtime
like short little movie, and.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
He said, oh, I'm going to do this movie.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
And basically, you know, they only had two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to make this movie.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Can you imagine that?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I mean, I mean it's insane how good it is.
And they made it for nothing.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
They made it for.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Nothing, and we were shooting in locations like a bar
where just normal people are there for the night.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
They didn't shut it down and put extras in there.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
It was with film.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I mean, it's crazy, Like I don't know how they
made it for that amount of money. And they you know,
like we were shooting the derby and everyone was just there.
They were just there out and the camera just kind
of was hidden and nobody really noticed it. So we
just shot with the open restaurant, open bar. People were
just out for the night.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Right. That's amazing, that's great. And it was such a
it was such an I mean, I don't know. We again,
Donald and I were the perfect target demo for that movie.
And and you know, I know, darn Donald, you were
probably living that life already. I just moved to La.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I'll never forget. I will never forget.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I had the club. I remember that I put the
club on.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
My I was in I was I had just moved
to La from New York and I was doing Clueless,
the television show, and breck and Meyer was guest starring
on it and some other dude was guest starring on
it also, and they were talking about Swingers and I
remember being like, what the fuck is swingers? And they

(26:44):
were like, Yo, it's this movie. It stars this guy,
Vince Vaughn. Like Brecon was real good with names. Him
and Seth best our best Seth Green are best friends,
but these real good with names. And so he was like,
it stars Vince Vaughn and this dude, John Favreau, and
you should see it. It's about, you know, living life
in la And I was like, yeah, okay, whatever. So

(27:05):
the ship comes out on VHS and I get it
and I watch it, and holy fuck, like it blew
my mind. I was like, I was literally living that
life at the time. I wasn't going on Jerby, I
wasn't going to the Dresden and all of that, but
I was doing something very similar that.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Where it was Jerry's Deli or you know what I mean.
I was just young guy.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
In Hollywood, trying to be cool.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
And trying to bag babes, trying trying to get trying
to be actors too. I mean, well not even just actors,
some stand up some directors. You could see all of
their paths, you know, what I mean, and which way
they wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
It was very it like lived.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I was like, holy fuck, Like Fav and Vince both
spoke to me, like even the dude who played Sue,
Like all of these motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
They spoke to me like.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I was like, I'm this the whole beef with the
guy and pulling the gun and now we're gonna now
one of.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Us is gonna die.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
That shit, shit like that happened, you know, you know
what I mean. Shit can't happen.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's not that shit could happen. Shit like that happened.
And it was like, Wow, this is this is this
is my life. But just white dudes are living in Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well they had a black friend. There was a black
friend in the group.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, but he was you know, yeah, Alex, he was
he was He was a neglected black dude, you know
what I mean. He was the one black dude that
hung out with all the white people, you know what
I mean, which was kind of like my life too.
But you know, hey, let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
We'll be right back after these fine words.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
All right? So that's ninety six. Then your life changes
because you get one of the biggest parts I imagine
of your career because everybody knows Boogie Knights and you
were infamously roller Girl. That movie was just incredible and
I don't know it was it fun to make? Was it?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, let's the cast alone?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
What was your experience?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
That was a great moment.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
It was a great moment where you know, your auditioning,
you want people to hire you, nothing's really happening, and
then suddenly and you know, doing swingers.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
I didn't think anything was going to come out.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Of that because I'm just like, Okay, this movie has
no studio attached to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars budget.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
But getting cast in that movie, it was a very.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Exciting time and just I love the script and Paul
is so passionate, and it was it was really cool.
Just creatively, it felt really you know, exciting.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Did you know you were going to have to work
like that?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Like you came to work, like you literally put your
hard hat on, you bought the lunch box in and
you went to I.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Mean I was like going from you know, I had
done a few jobs, but I was like, oh my god,
I want a career.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
So I really wanted this, you know, I wanted to
do good work and hopefully get it you work.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Did you know how to roller skate?

Speaker 5 (30:00):
No, I had to have a coach.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
How about all the nudity? What you had to do
was that, because you know, there's regularly.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Sometimes it was scary, Like at that point I had
never done any In fact, I think I had been
offered a few things that I'd turned down because it
was like the nudity, and and then I was just thinking,
what maybe I should just do it, you know. And
so that was the first time I ever did it,
and I was slightly terrified, but I knew it was special.
But I remember I actually went on like Adam Carolla
had a show and he was like, oh my god,

(30:29):
you're doing a movie about the porn industry. Oh my god,
Like he was making fun of it and acting like that's,
you know, so exploitive or whatever. But at that time,
it wasn't cool to make movies about that kind of
subject matter, which now I feel like it's much more normal.
But at that time people were like.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Whoa, well, he did such a good job. And it
wasn't just about the p industry. He did such a
good job. It was I mean, it was about so
much more than the Porland.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It was more.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
No, I mean it was good. He just did a
good job and it was good. But it was terrifying
to be naked for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, because there's nuty me in sex scenes where you're like,
you know, people are used to that. Okay, we might
see a little bit of your breast or or you know,
your butt or whatever. You had to be like rolling
a roller roller grilling around, and I'm sure maybe maybe
you get used to it. I don't know at a
certain point, just like what about you?

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Have you ever? Have you guys done nudity?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
What nes when I have to do that, I've done?

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, I haven't. We you know, men don't often show
their penises. That's the rare actor who shows their guys.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Adam Divine shows his in Hey, How's it Go?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
And Jason Siegel in What's it called? Donald forgetting Sea Marshall,
And I feel like you have need to. I'd be
too nervous because we men, Heather, I don't want to
no spoilers, but we we change sizes depending on temperature.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
But you can show, but I've shown.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Donald showed scrubs. I think I would show, but you know,
in a lot of sex scenes you see these days
when when like they're doing like a hardcore sex scene,
the men all show their butt, their butts like rising
up in the air, like they're very free with their butt,
but penis is tough to show.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Well, no, they showed it in that movie what was
it called Shame or something with Fastbender.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
You know, there are some movies where they're show that they.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Should be the first Deadpool.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
They showed Dick.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
In Sultburn.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
They show ran when he's burning and he blows up
the room and he's in the tank button naked.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
He jumps over and there's ball and shaft hanging.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But that might not be really his, that might not be.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It doesn't matter they show it. You know.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I appreciate that it's not just women, but no, you're right.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Sulburn is probably the most graphic example of that.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And I believe in in Boogie Knights, Mark Wahlberg wears
a prosthetic because yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
He's wearing a prosthetic for sure, and I think when
the movie was over he capped it or something, because
you know, and you want to keep that, which, by
the way, I just want to do a little brag
that I kept my roller skates.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
And then I just bought a new house and I
was I was like, oh should I keep these? And
I was thinking should I just give them away?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
And then my manager called the Academy Museum and they
put them in the Academy the Academy.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yeah, I know, I'm very sorry.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
All right.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Listen, another movie that Donald and I both really really
love is Both Anger.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Oh I get proud of that movie. I mean, I
Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy, I mean, that's like a kind
of a dream.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
But you also showed how funny you could be. Also
you were. You also showed how I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
We're big, so you got to go.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I'm a huge hold on. I'm a huge Steve Martin
fan too. I grew up on Eddie Murphy. As I've
gotten older, Steve Martin has become my taste in comedy
as well.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Uh, but Eddie Murphy is like, I mean, I based
my life on it.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Yeah, I'm wondering like your inspiration and stuff.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
Like I recited raw, I recited Delirious, I recited Saturday
Night Live, Beverly Hills Cop like that was my.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah, That's all I did was that.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I mean, he's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
We had a videotape in my house that was Eddie
Murphy's Sorry Live Greatest Yes, and then we just watched
that ship on repeat.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
They put another.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
One out and the things that were on the original
one aren't on the one that they put out.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
The new one that they put out.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
The original one had hot to all of that shit
gonna get yeah anyway, all.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Right, so he there. We haven't talk too much. Tell
us about Eddie. Was he fun to work with? Was
it intimidating?

Speaker 5 (34:54):
He was? I mean, he was very fun, He was
very nice.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
I mean he's brilliant, right, You're just like in the
movie and just he's he's just kind of a genius. Right.
He has like a stand in who looks exactly like him,
and he will sometimes do the scenes with you, like
if you don't see his face, like his stand in
will act with you. Who's really was a cool, nice guy,
but I know he is genius, right, Like you're just

(35:18):
sure you're.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Saying the camera so you're saying some of the times
that he's even even not fully off camera on his back,
he's not doing the performance sometimes.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yes, Okay, have you ever worked with anybody like that? Before.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
No, if you're just such a big star.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I mean, look, his performance is so brilliant, so and
the guy that was doing it, he's actually really talented too.
But no, I've never done work with anything kids, no kids,
little kids where.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
They're like, oh you have to leave?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, But I've never worked on I don't
I've never done scenes with another actor being the actor.
Have you done?

Speaker 3 (36:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know what, I'm gonna say something. When I did
Kick Ass Too, I remember them saying Jim Carrey is
notorious for doing that. And he showed up on set
and Jim was there for every off stage off you.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
He was very generous actually with his time. But I
remember them saying, now, don't be surprised. He's notorious for this.
He's not going to give you off camera. And he
gave off camera the whole time.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
And it was like, oh wait, it might have been
a faith he was going through, but like I didn't care.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
I mean, I was just like, this is amazing.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Like I get to hang out and talk to him,
and like Steve Martin would like eat lunch with us,
you know, because a lot of times people just go
eat lunch by themselves, like Steve Martin would just sit
and eat lunch with all the actors, chat with us.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
And I don't know, it was so special.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
You know, I'm just thinking, I'm standing here talking to
Eddie Murphy like this is it felt like a dream,
you know, the best.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
One when he goes, you're doing a great job.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You gonna get it. You're gonna you're doing great. You're
doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
All right, then you get let's see that a fucking
another Oh sorry, we can't skip over the Austin Powers
the Spy Shag. I mean, jeesus, Heather, you've had some
fucking hits. That was That was That was a big
ass movie. Wait was that the first one or the
second one?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
It was the second one. The first one's Elizabeth Hurley.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Right, you were the you were the love interest in
the second.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
One, Yeah, Felicity Shaguall right.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Now he improps a lot, right does he? Does he
make up?

Speaker 5 (37:38):
I mean he's he you know, I want it, and
he prepares. We did a lot of rehearsal.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
And on the other hand, he you know, he'll improv
I mean he's the kind of guy. I mean, you
guys are like this, Like he likes to entertain the crew.
He'll make jokes. He wants everyone laughing. He's very like
generous and fun. You know, he's just always trying to
make everybody laugh.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, we we, Donald and I find that if we
get everyone in a silly mood. And Donald does this
way more than I do because he has a lot
more energy, and but we we finally he does if
we create an environment on set where everyone's in a
silly mood, it helps us be silly, you know, so
we we try and make everybody laugh.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
You guys are pretty mean in a silly mood right now.
I'm like, oh my god, let's let's make more scrubs, Like,
let's do it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Well, Bill Lawrence has been on a press junk and
talking a lot.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Of ship's been talking, so.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Stand by audience, Well, really, what did he say? You know,
he's promoting Bad Monkey now, And of course every interview
that asks him the question says, when you're rebooting scrubs,
And it used to be the answer used to be like, oh,
it'll be fun one day, and then lately it's I
should have an answer for you in the next six months.
Is was he what he's saying?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's going to be excited about.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Basically what it is is if you want to know
the thing of it is, it's going to happen. You know,
Disney owns, Disney owns Scrubs. Bill has a very big
deal with Warner Brothers, so those two companies have to come.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Just thinking, I wish I had been in more episodes
because it was so.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Fun and you to come back. If we do it,
you come back more.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
So if it comes back, I want.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
To be I want to were very funny, is Molly Clark.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
No.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
So I was in Italy, k and I was getting
breakfast and this Italian woman comes up and she does
these hard nands to me and she's like Mollie doctor
Molly on Scrubs.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Yeah, and she touched her heart like.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Thank you, and I'm like wow that that you know,
wasn't like she it really affected her and she was
so sweet. You know.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well, Heather, I don't know if you know this. The
fans of this podcast will know that because they've heard
me say this a thousand times, but I don't know
if you know this. But the big episode that was
your last, which is the one where we ended up
on the universe a lot and I repel across the street.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
And she directed that one.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
That was That was the first Scrubs episode I ever directed. Wow,
and I was.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
There, you know, virginization of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, because I hit the member, I hit the wall,
I can go to the garbage, I pop back up
and I go all. That was the whole premise of
what that was. I had a permission slip from Elliott
that I was allowed to hook up with you, and
and then you open it up and it said didn't
you know she had lied to me? It wasn't a
permission slip. But anyway, because Joel didn't put any reference

(40:25):
to Scrubs in this debriefing, Joel, I don't know why
you would have left out the most important aspect, Joel.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
I think you were a part of I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yes, Joelle, I need some.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Days I remember it. Look, you're the producer princess. I
like your princess.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, Joelle is a producer princess. She is the best.
All right, we're gonna go to break real quick. Oh okay,
I'm going to break. We're gonna break and will be
right back with Heather. We're gonna ask her about a
little movie franchise called The Hangover. We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
I don't know my back.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Why do we want to sing to Heather? She wants
us to want we can could do? We could do
one of trying to get into a dair shoe. What
you're trying to do? What you're trying to get into
a dare show what you're trying to do?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Here? There was some tak forever.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, we have a sound effects machine, Heather.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
He's best friends like some some.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Weeks, some weeks, tanks forever. It depends.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Sometimes he's a bit it's hard to get a hold of.
You're you're the one that's kind.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Of like, well he's been he's got kids and ship
and and he's busy, and he doesn't like.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
My life, Heather, one mile at a time.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
He doesn't get he doesn't kids are taking family.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
It's all about family, Heather. He doesn't ever want to
do anything.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I live my life one mile at a time.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
He's a bit of an agrofobe, and he kind of
hides behind the children to be like, I can't do anything.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's all about family. You know, when you've got family.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, So I am quoting Joelle.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
What am I quoting The Godfather.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, no, it's that calm movie Heather. He doesn't really
like to leave his home, and and thus let me
just go.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Over and hang out with him and his family. I mean, problem.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Solved because he don't like kids.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
No, I like kids. I like kids. I'd like my
own kids.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You don't like my kids. You don't like you know,
other people's kids. He likes his own kids.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Your kids are fine. I mean, your kids are great.
They don't seem too interested in uncle's act. They come in,
they say hi, and then they go off and do
their own thing. They're not exactly like having kids.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
What's happening with that? You would be accused?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I think I need to freeze my sperm or something.
I don't know how long I got on these things.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Keep telling him just start having oops babies.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Just oh sh my bad. Yeah, Donald's giving me the
worst advice and saying I should have Oops babies. I
don't want to have an Oops baby.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Like I said, I live my life one mile at
a time.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Donald family, Donald's are very bad. Donald's a bad influence
because his advice is to have an oops baby. We
named many of my baby oops. This is my darling baby. Oops, oops, brath.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Baby is still a baby.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
You know, No, I know, but Heather, I'd like to
fall in love, Heather. I'd like to find love and
I'm single. I'd like to find love and have a baby.
Are you in a relationship with someone right now?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
I'm dating this guy. His name is John, and nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Heather.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know, Heather, Heather. You know, Heather and I live together.
A lot of people wouldn't know that we live in
the same building, in the same building, and we're on
the same co op board. And occasionally when we have
to do zoom co op board meetings, they're very long
and grueling, and I text Heather funny messages to see

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if I can make her laugh laugh in the zoom
we do. It's the only thing that makes a co
op board meeting fun is playing the game. Can I
make Heather Graham laugh?

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (44:21):
I got the co op board? What a crazy Oh
my god, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
But we probably shouldn't should talk our co op. No,
we love our co op and I can't highly recommend
getting on your co op board. It is amazing. If
you want to argue that you should maybe paint the
lobby for three years. It's really a lot of fun.
All right, talk about the Hangover? Another fucking banger, Heather Ground.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Listen, Heather Graham, I am sensing a trend.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
What is your trend after?

Speaker 5 (45:00):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Before you fucking letter answer.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
My question, because because I don't want to just be
about the Hangover, I wanted to elaborate a little bit.
Are you feeling the ride right now? What does it
feel like going into the Hangover? You've got a string
of hits behind you and now you're going into this.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
When I read The Hangover, like a lot of us did,
it seemed like it was a mess. What happened that
all of a sudden you were like, I'm doing this movie.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I actually had to audition for The Hangover.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It was like no audition for all of these movies.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Not all. I did not audition for Austin Powers.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
They offered it. I got offered bow Finger. I auditioned
for License to Drive Boogie Nights. I auditioned for Hangover,
and yeah, I think he had offered it to someone
more famous, who I guess turned it down, And yeah,
then I got it, which was so exciting and uh
at that time, you know whatever, Zach and brad they
were not, you know, as famous as they are today.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Right, Well, that movie really jump started Bradley's whole career, because.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Jump started everybody's career.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
No, I'm saying, yeah, of course, but Bradley's become Yeah,
I can jong.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
I mean he was, he was a doctor you know
before that.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Zak Calvanakus in that movie is one of the funniest
fucking things ever with his with his beeper with pager.
I have to be honest, I haven't. I have to confess,
I haven't seen the sequels, but I what but I
never wanted the.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Best because whatever, I'm not into. And three I have
a small part, but I like number one the best,
all right.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
In two thousand and one, Donald and I did not
make this list, but you were named one of the
fifty most beautiful people. Donald, I tried out for this.
I read twice.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
It did not get I think you were fifty one.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Well, come on, Zach, I've gotten your share of like
girls having crushes on you.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm sure, okay, either I was. I was number fifty
one and a half, as Donald said, And.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Young Starlet's hot that date you and fall in love
with you because you're so cool.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Okay, Heather, this could be its own separate conversation during
during the co op board meeting.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
We don't need to uh, Okay, I'm just saying, it's
not like no girls think you're hot.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Okay, you guys are both like Studley.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Dude, I don't know about Donald, don't make it about Donna.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Zach, thank you.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
You are definitely a heart drop for a lot of
a lot of girls, you know.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Right, all right, Daniel, I'm gonna need that Daniel from
from one of your movies.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Dude, you're so money and you don't even know it.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
For Daniel, I'm gonna need Heather saying I'm a heart
throb for my soundboard.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Come on, you know it, you know it, you know
it's Zach.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, I need that one too. All right. Now, you're
segueing into this new chapter of your career, writing and director.
You've just made your second movie. I Donald and I
both watched it. I was able lucky enough to read it.
It's great and it's called Chosen Family. Everybody, and how.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Did you write? You wrote, direct.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Wrote it and director and you started.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Thanks for watching it.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
We're a very good host. We're a very good host.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Directed, starred, and produced it. That's doing a lot. That's
what was it?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
What inspired the story? It's it's about a woman who's
looking for love and uh and and and ends up
dating a guy with a very problematic child who hates her.
Is any of this based on a real life experience
or was this totally fiction?

Speaker 4 (48:44):
You know, real life always inspires. But yeah, I did,
you know, make it up? I kind of I wanted
to tell story. I realized it was a certain point
in my life that I was a people pleaser, right
and and in my journey of how to stop being
a people pleaser. And I did think it's interesting when
you date someone that has a kid, you know, it
just got dynamic of being like the kind of awkward
step parent, and just the idea is like how your

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friends can sometimes be your family more than your family.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Yes, that's true for me because I don't have kids,
and so I feel like my when we were joking
about that with Donald, are you.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Going to have kids, Zach, what's happening with that?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I'd like to I just I haven't. I haven't found
my life partner yet, right, and i'd like to. But
if it happens, i'd love to. Otherwise you be a
cute dad. I think i'd either, so I can really
I can relate. Yeah, but I don't know that it's
going to happen at this point, you know, I maybe
I maybe I fall in love with someone who has
kids and I'm a great step dad. I don't know.

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I'm forty nine, so I don't know if. But who knows.
You know, it could still happen.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Forty nine is the new thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I like that, Heather. I like that. I mean, but
you're not going to have kids, right, you're pat you
don't want to do it.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
I mean, it's not my plan.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
I like never say never, right, I mean, I don't know.
I guess I could get a surrogate, or I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Have a surget or you could adopt, or you could
we could just have a baby that we kind of
raised together in the building.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
We have one act have a baby.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Here I go, here comes to oops baby.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
This is a good exclusive, everybody, this is a baby.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I'm surprised you never had an Oops baby, you know,
like mister cool guy in Hollywood, you never had an
oops baby.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Well, I'm glad I didn't have an oops baby, unlike Donald.
I don't want I don't want an oops baby.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I have so much money because you never had an oop.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (50:37):
All right, well, well I will say I will say
that oops babies are expensive.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Donald can tell you all. I can tell you cost a.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Lot of money.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Look the relationship for that moment in time neverthelasts.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah. Well, I like the idea of you and I
having a co op baby and we just we just.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
In a co op, one upstairs, one downstairs. Why not?

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I used to joke with Heather that if we fell
in love, we would have a really sick duplex, so
go oops baby would would live? Well, all right, so wait,
when does this movie come out?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
When can you talk about the movie a little?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
When? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
When can Juliet Julia Styles is in it, Heather directs,
she stars. She writes, the young girl was very funny.
I mean I hated her. You're supposed to hate her.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
You're supposed to hate her.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
And Thomas Lennon Andrea Savage.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
At one point, I tell a dude, yo, grow a pair, man,
and tell us girl.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
You knew I was invested in the movie because I
wanted to. I was so mad at the kid, and
I wanted to tell the boyfriend to be like, what
the fuck is going on with you not being able
to control your child? I got invested, I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
I feel like in those situations, it's hard because you
want the parent and then you, as the other person,
You're like, do I do something? Do I say something?
I'm not their parents? Yeah, the modern modern.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, I don't know if I could take it, like
it's got to be like and I get it. I love,
I love love and all of that stuff, but it
is tricky.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I have dated women with children before, and i've and
even also I would say my friends are kids, not
Donald's but other people's kids, and I see them sort
of disrespect my girlfriend or the friend, and my instinct
is to want to be like, hey, don't don't talk

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like that, or hey what you know that's but you
don't know what to do because like, is it my
place is not? My place is to you know, but
you know what I mean. Like, so that's sort of what.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
I learned, like through being in different situations like that,
that I'm gonna that I decided I am going to
say something but in me like a gentle way. But hey,
don't talk like that, because if the parent's not to
do it, I feel like it's to the kid's benefit
to get some healthy boundaries. You know, you can come
at them with like a gentle way. It's better to
say something. That's what I learned.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
But he's got to be tactful because like, yeah, I
remember one time saying something to the child and the
gal looked at me like and I didn't even say anything.
I was just like, hey, don't talk to your mother
like that. That's rude. And she looked at me like
wait what, And I was like, Okay, this isn't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
It's take an over correction from like past generations like
being really harsh on kids, and now everyone's like, oh,
we need to be so sweet to kids. But then
like sometimes you're being too sweet to the kid where
the kids just becomes obnoxious.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know that shit gotta go.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
But what what are you like as a dad?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Donald, I'm a coddler. But the thing is it gotta go.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You don't never lay the hammer down to you, you know, man.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
But That's what I'm trying to say. Man, it gotta go. Listen.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Once you set the boundary, once you set once you
set the tone, listen, I'm gonna support you. Even when
you're yelling at me. I'm still coming at it. They
freaking will walk all over you.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Man. You gotta set the tone right away, yo, Man,
don't do that shit. Problems You and I?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
How do problems? How do people see this movie? Heather?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Okay, Well, it's gonna be in theaters and on demand
starting October eleventh, and yeah, check it out.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Check it out everyone. It's really good. Heather. You you
have a career to be envied. You've done so many
different things. Are you going to keep writing and directing?
Because it seems like it's something you're very passionate about.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
I mean, I would love to. At the moment, I
just got this cool job in South Africa.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
It's this movie called They Will Kill You with zazzy
beats and it's a cool h It's like a New
Line movie and I get to do some action scenes.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
So I'm excited about that.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh, that's very cool. I like that. She's good.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
I know she's cool. I'm very I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, that sounds fun. And how long will you be
in South.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
I'm gonna be there for two months, and yeah, I'm
excited about it.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Now, it's the boyfriend going to go with you. How's
that going to work with the long distance of it all?

Speaker 4 (55:18):
I mean he's going to come visit. I mean, I
don't think he can just go for the entire time.
But but I've never been, so I'm excited.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
I've never been to South Africa. Have you guys been?

Speaker 8 (55:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
I haven't. But you should take the boyfriend on a safari?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Yeah, or he should take me.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
He should take you on a safari because I hear that.
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
He got it like that, he got like Kenya. Wait.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
I went to Kenya and he did take me on
a safari last year. It was fun. I'd never been
and I'd always wanted to go. But it's cool Kenya.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I don't want to. I want to go too. I
don't have a no, But Donald, since I don't have
a girlfriend, will you take me on Sofari?

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Oh my god, you guys are such a romantic cut Donald?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Do you real?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Donald? Do you realize how much fun we would have
on Sofari?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Is gone?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
What you wouldn't see? He's a doora folk. He won't
do anything.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
You wouldn't look at the news.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
See, he won't go on, he won't leave. He won't
leave the valley. He's not going to the Safari.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
All Right, You're adorable.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Heather Graham. We love you. Thank you for coming on
the show.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
I love you you guys, Hurt.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
What a great guest. Huh, Doug, we.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Had Mercedes Lane on the show.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Bro we had a roller Girl, dude.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Mercedes Lane was the was the it factor when I
was a youth.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
You're telling me when you saw roller Girl, you weren't
like Jesus, Mary and Jose.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
That's another that's another side of Donald that doesn't come
out often. But but freaking Mercedes Lane was the one
when I was a kid. That's like freaking John Cryer.
That's like, that's like, that's a freaking iconic character in
the freaking zeitgeist of teen movies.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
She was like the ultimate way out of your league character.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Like in some movies the girl was kind of out
of like in uh some kind of wonderful you get
because of where she lived. This girl was so fine
when I was a kid. That Corey Feldman the fucking
cutest motherfucker. Luca the motherfucker, cutest motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
On the planet.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Lucas, Lucas, Lucas, Yeah, Lucas. I love Lucas.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Was out of her league. Was out of herle I
mean sorry, she was out of his league. The cutest
dude on the planet was out. She was out of
his league.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
That's how all right? Anyway. We love Heather Graham and
I was nice to see her. What a great episode.
Thank you everybody for tuning in, check out bad Monkey
and uh what else do we want to say? We
love you?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, we love you guys so much. Joel Daniell, thank
you so much for this happened for us.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Nice stories.

Speaker 7 (58:10):
I'm not sure we made about a bunch of talks
and nurses in Canada.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Who love me.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
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