Real Friends Classic - 425: My Changing Ways with Sarah Chalke and Amanda Kloots

On this week's episode, the crew complete their internships and their lives begin to take divergent paths. In the real world, Chalke is back and she's mastered her recording equipment. We're also joined by Amanda Kloots, who just released her book "Live Your Life," honoring her late husband Nick Cordero.

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fingers crossed. Did you do it? Can you hear us?
And we cannot hear you? Okay, I'm you are so good.
No way, you nailed it on time one. I don't
believe it. Oh my god, you guys. She made it.

(00:21):
She figured it out. It took four seasons, but she
figured it out. I'm recording. You are incredible. I preconnected
the earbuds, earbuds, the buds, she connected them to the bluetooth. Wow,
got the link open. I'm so proud of Donald. Donald's
gonna have a tear in design. Yo. Donald figured out

(00:41):
her audio without any help, just my audio. I figured
out my video. I figured out my lunch. I figured
out all of the things. You look great. You look great.
Some thirsty pictures on Instagram, and I've been I've been
hearting them big thirst to thirsties when you like, you know,
you look fine and you like I thought you was

(01:03):
like she was posting sit like the bugs bunny challenge.
You put out all these thirsty picks, Donald, But Sarah
occasionally drops fine. I'm like, okay, Zarah, Okay, I did
not know that's what I was doing. But I will
try to continue to do Please do it because your fans,
I'm sure love it and I appreciate it as your
fake former lover. Well, I feel like I kind of
like try really like I'll be like, Okay, I'm gonna

(01:25):
I'm gonna put something on it, and then I forget,
and then a month goes by and then like I'm
gonna do it. Um. But mostly I'm just so proud
in this moment because I feel like Zach texting me
earlier me is like practice getting online. Three words exactly
three words, practice getting online. And I was like thinking,
I was like, I charged the earbuds. I've I don't

(01:47):
know another grown adult that I would text practice getting online. Well,
I mean, yeah, it's it is. It's it's a mystery.
But I do feel like there's something that happens when
you kind of you know, you go back to that,
you revert to that dynamic, because like I was just

(02:08):
pouring water and I don't I mean, i feel like
I've learned where my arms are in space. Anyways, the
water dumped obviously all over it. I was like, it's
because I'm about to get on the podcast. You spilt water?
You spilled water? Did you spill it all over your
recording device? Ever, the recording devices are all fine, just
my pants and my socks, so I'm not in socks anymore.

(02:31):
Socks had to go. You are the clumsies. You cannot
write this stuff. This stuff, there's never a day. I've
never been a day since I've known her, and I've
known her for twenty years, which where it's like, what's up?
Nothing happened? No, I won't. I have no stories for today.
Nothing would come back from freaking break with adventures like

(02:53):
a car almost ran my whole family over. Yeah, yeah,
my dogs almost date my dad. We were in a
tent around um, Sarah, I want to tell you something.
We did a big interview for the Washington Post and
they didn't put in my favorite part where she asked
us a very good question. She said to Donald and I,

(03:14):
what is one thing you really see now from watching
the show back that you didn't fully appreciate back in
the day. Right away, both of our answers at the
same time, same answer, would hesitation. We both said, how
fucking genius, Sarah chalk is. I mean people on the listening,
I'm not going to know what blushing you're blushing. They're

(03:37):
not able to see me blushing right now because it's audio,
but we meant it, Sarah, I really mean that. I
know Donald as two. You know, when we're doing the show,
we're so caught up in our own trying to be funny.
Obviously me, you were funny. We spend so much time together.
But there's things that I really noticed in hindsight. One
that we always teased Rob. But even though Rob had

(03:57):
one line, every time he says it, it's funny, um.
And the other is you. You're just you're such a
gifted actress and comedian. That is really nice and thank you,
And I feel like everything I learned I learned on
this show. So that's the truth. Congratulations on season two
of Firefly Lane. Also, that's your second standing up. There

(04:24):
are a lot of people out there. My wife included, Well,
I'm gonna tea you something right now. My wife included
with I guess millions of people out there. Yeah, they
are so excited for season two. Yep. Oh, I'm so happy.
I'm so excited. I love doing it. I can't I'm
so happy we get to do it again. I really Spiller,
who was one of our favorite directors on this show.

(04:46):
You know, we talked about him several times he was
one of the best directors we had. I heard a
rumor that he's going to be one of your main
directors on the show this year. I'm so pumped. I'm
so pumped. I mean when I heard that, obviously there
was like our core group on Scrubs, and Spiller was
one of them. And he's such a good director. He's
also just so chilled, like he's he just sets that

(05:08):
tone on set of like it's all going to work out. Yeah.
And he also has obviously such a knack for comedy.
Um that, I have one question for you. Are you
doing the new Psyched movie? I'm not. I'm not. I'm
so happy they're doing another one. I don't like. I
have problems with it. Would you trade? Sometimes I think

(05:33):
it's a betrayal. I do agree that it's a betrayal. No,
I feel I feel it in my heart place writing
in her place. I feel like I feel like, um yeah,
that's why. That's why I couldn't do another one. Maybe
we should get another famous blonde comedian to do our movie.
Don't you even think about Kaylee u? I hear she's

(05:59):
doing even about Okay, Okay, you fine, Okay, bring on
you can have just bring Becky one, and then I'll
feel like there's something we don't want. No, no, no, no, no,
some you know, some continuity we don't. We don't want
anyone but you. We love you. We think you're Did
I ever tell you when I first met Becky one?
How she approached me? How did she say? He was like,

(06:20):
you know, do you know who I am? And I
was like, yeah, I know who you are. Calm down, Yeah,
that's right, number one, motherfucker number one. We never had her.
We should have had her do a funny can I know?
I feel like we talked about it at some point.

(06:41):
Becky won Slash three when I was two, Slash four.
I've been a really funny fantasy in there, right, I
mean yeah, instead, you guys call me second Becky for
eight years. How's it going up there in Canada? I
know you like to be up there and um and um,
it's a beautiful time of year, right. What's happening up there?
Are you? It's pouring rain, just just a downpour today,

(07:02):
just a downpour. Really. Um? Yeah, but that's I mean,
June is kind of like that sometimes, I am. I'm mum, yeah,
it's going great. I mean, we're we're doing good up here.
It's we're a little behind the States in terms of
the roll out of the vaccines. But I just got
my appointment for my second dose and I can't wait.
I'm like the one who calls every day, is it time?

(07:22):
Is it time? Is it my turn? Can I have
a turn yet? Is it my turn? I was about
to say, when are you guys going to open back up? Yeah?
When can you open those borders so we can come
visit you without a two week quarantine? I got off
with a roll and they were like, listen, it's one
day of work, but we need you to two weeks.
Two weeks, by the way, and IT'SO, no, fucking two weeks.
Do you know what it is? They put you in
a hotel and they watch you and you're not allowed

(07:45):
to leave the hotel room. Yeah, so now is that
my friend? My friend just did it. My friend just
did it. She had a balcony she was allowed to
sit on. But other than that, no outside one. It
was like one scene, fourteen days quarantine. I was like, no,
I'm going to pass on this. We talked. I was
like I was totally Randy Jackson that's gonna be a

(08:07):
note for me, don't. Yeah, we're talking about bringing my
movie up there. And it was a big note from
me when I heard about the for real two Weeks
in a room by myself. No thanks, Wait which one
you're directing? In my new film I'm directing, We're I'm
trying to make it in Jersey. I want to make
New Jersey where it takes place. But you know, when
you're budgeting a movie, you can't help. Every producer's first
line is, well, let's explore Canada. And I mean that's

(08:30):
like you can just that's like the first thing any
producer is going to say, well, we should look at
Canada and uh. And then I said, well, I looked
at the Two Weeks by Myself in an apartment and
I decided, we're not looking at Canada anymore. Every job,
my entire life, we should look at Canada. So I
don't know, Sara, since you're the film dream True, Sarah, Yeah,

(08:53):
your dreams coming true. Not American actors don't want to
go there. So you have all the roles for yourself
and uh, but you you're on a show, don't have
you can't take any more roles. You already got one.
Do your movie in Canada. I feel like the quarantine
is going to be you can cut the all the
time information for when the quarantine and for Canada's going away. Sarah, Oh,
let's not. I mean, you know, I make all the decisions.

(09:14):
I just feel like if you, if you made the
right calls, you might be able to find out. Yeah,
I could. I could find it. I could probably you know,
pull some strings as well. At what time? When do
you need it done by? I got it. Well, if
you could do it by the fifteenth, like the rest,
Donald will take that part, then I could probably take
that fifteenth of June. Yeah. Man, we're about to open up.

(09:34):
America is about to open up a California. I know
California is fully opened on the fifteen. It's America. Oh okay,
So I feel like, wait, zb, aren't you directing your
movie in September? Um, we are scheduled to start principal
photography mid October. Oh you're gonna be fine. I read that. Um,

(09:55):
they're gonna potentially have like lift the quarantine for travelers
who are double vaxed in July. Okay, well, I can't
only depend on Sarah Chalk heard. I mean it's pretty
it's pretty reliable. Can you imagine I stay to Morgan Freeman.
It looks at Morgan so happy to doing the movie.
I'm gonna need you to sit alone in a room

(10:15):
for two weeks because Sarah was not corrected. Damn mind,
that's what this is Morgen. Okay, So Jersey instead does
he say this is Morgan? When he says this is Morgan,
this is Morgan free this is Morgan Freeman. You know
my outgoing message? Do I tell you guys that's sorry
about how he us my outgoing message? Yeah? Did I

(10:36):
tout on the podcast? No, you didn't, But I had
it while I was direct him and going in style
and he and I knew he was wrapped because I'm
the director. I know when someone's last shot it is.
But it was early for him. He was surprised, and
I go, this is your last shot and he goes,
I don't believe you. And I go, I'm the director.
I know when someone's last shot is. I I'm the
one who comes up with the shots. And you're not
in any of the other ones. You're done and he goes,

(10:58):
I don't believe you. I go make me bet, so
we bet him and if I won, he had to
record an outgoing voicemail message on my phone, which I
of course won because I know what I'm doing, and
so for the longest time I had Hello, this is
Morgan Freeman. Zach can't come to the phone right now,
leave a message. If I could have anybody do that

(11:20):
for me, it would be Tracy Morgan as Brian Fellows.
I'm Brad Fellow, Dona fhaz On geg of the phone
right now. That would be amazing. Speaking of Zach got
bet by a raw Wiler. But you clearly don't listen
to the show. So how did you hear that I
was listening to the show. I don't believe you. And

(11:42):
then I know that you you showed you had to
apologize Joel because she's gonna have to see your boxers. Oh,
you do listen to the show. I thought you didn't listen.
I can't believe that that happened. I feel like someone.
I feel like one of Sarah's relatives told him, did
you get all permission to reveal his boxers? Like googling

(12:04):
things that were discussed on the podcast. I feel like you.
I was like, you're not gonna believe what happened. Okay,
one set right, and I'm the Rod Wilder is perfectly fine.
All of a sudden it latches onto my leg. But
it was a stunt gonna ry and I didn't want
the children to worry, so I had to waite. I
just had to waiting. I'm sobbing adical and because she

(12:25):
wouldn't know what to do. Not only did she come
from me in a hard, difficult time, but she also
knew the medical answer of all the things to put
in the wound. That was Sarah Chalk doing me doing
Sarah Chalk. All right, listen, before we count in, I
want to tell everyone that our guest today is our

(12:46):
friend Amanda Clutes, who we all know and love, and
she has written a book about Nick and losing Nick
called Live Your Life that is just extraordinary. I am
not just saying this because she is our friend. I
even said this to her face. I said, I was
expecting it to be interesting to me because I know
the story and I love you, but I could not

(13:08):
put this book down. It is so well done. She
wrote it with her sister, who's a professional writer, so
I'm sure that she helped her. But it's extraordinary. So
we're gonna talk about all that. Um, this is after.
That's after we uh co host with Sarah though, right.
I can't wait to read Amanda's book. I pre ordered
it the day it was available for pre order. I
just got my email when it's coming. And look, interviewer, guys,

(13:31):
I'm holding like I'm like Jimmy Fallon. I'm holding up
the book to the camera, the book. Um, but I
will talk all about that later. Um. The other thing
I want to tell you is, this is the season
four finale, Sarah. That's why we wanted to have you
on because, um, you're so hilarious and also, um, we're
just we're booking through this thing guy. Season four. I
mean this is like halfway through the show. I know
we're trying to stall now, Sarah, because we don't want

(13:52):
it to be over right. I mean I got great
ideas on how we can stall. Guys, what are your
anyr thoughts? He wants to a different world, dude, I
think that would be a great We just do like
an intermission and do we can do the pilot, just
the pilot. I've never I don't want to upset you,

(14:12):
so just calm down before you hold on one second, motherfucker.
Don't get me mad right now, God damn it, no,
it needs you to come down. By the way, why
is your kid pissing in front of my house? Okay,
I get this picture. I don't know if it was
from the security camera or what it was. Donald's guarding
like a Donald guarding like a bouncer. His son pissing
on the front of my house. I'm like, how many

(14:33):
would happen. Here's what happened. So, speaking of Zack's mom,
we I was. We were at Zach's house yesterday with
his family. His niece just graduated from high school. It
was a wonderful affair. I got super drunk, which I
don't do anymore. It's and I get super drunk, you
seem to hold it together. And I had a few edibles. Ohways,

(14:53):
the edibles. Yeah, and I don't do that anymore either usually.
And I was just all gonna add to your son
peeing in my house? Yes, this is this is the story.
I was plastered. We leave right and we get outside
and Rocco goes, I gotta pee dad, because you guys

(15:13):
were all downstairs, and Casey says to me, they have
to come all the way back up here. Rocco just
pee in the bush. And I was like, no, dude,
don't pee in the bush, right, And she's like, no,
just let him pee in the bush. It'll be all right.
She's like, how do you think he goes into the
bathroom when he's at basketball camp, he peas in the bush.
And I was like, oh my god, he's being in
the bush at basketball camp. And he was like, yeah, Dad,

(15:34):
I pee in a bush at basketball camp. And I
was like, all right, this is what you do. Go
pee in the bush. And so he goes to pee
and I'm holding I'm guarding him, and his mother decides
to take a picture and send it to you, just
so you know that we might have to post that picture.
Can you ask Casey if I'm allowed to post it.
You are totally allowed to post It's pretty funny. Donald
looks like he's like, it looks like it's some famous

(15:56):
like musician. And Donald looks like the bodyguard. Who's who's
thing to star peeing in the bushes? You know what?
It looks like. It looks like, baby, what's the one
the Adam Sandler movie where the kid's pissing on the door,
Big Daddy, Big Daddy. It's an important life skill you
cannot get too. Precious. Kids pee in my pool, though,
Are you fucking kidding me? Yes? Or no? I think

(16:18):
they beat in the hot tub too. Oh no, really,
we were all in the hot tub. How do you
we were. Everybody was splashing their face everything, you know.
My my assistant, Mark had his kids, two kids, doorable
kids over swimming in the pool and Josh Raiden comes

(16:39):
over and the kids are like, mister Josh, mister Josh
comes swimming and he goes, I'm not coming in that pool.
You guys peed in there, and they go, not in
the hot tub, meaning like meaning like in the real pool. Yeah,
they frenched. I am, I am. I am almost positive
my kids peed. You. It's a saltwater pool. I don't

(17:01):
know if that cleans urine, Joel. Can you google that
chlorine the ocean? The ocean does chlorine. I can picture
attacking the urine. I give a saltwater pool if it
kills child urin Joel, Well, it's all salty, how about that?
All right? Oh my god? I feel like when we
were kids, they would they would have those things in

(17:23):
the pool, like the chemicals the pool that would like
light up when someone sit. No, one never really had that.
Everyone just threatened to have that. It didn't didn't happen
anybody that never happened. That was a threat, so we
wouldn't do it. All right, we get in the show. Wait,
hold on, Joel has the answer. Salt water may kills some,
but does not kill all mouth and that doesn't answer

(17:44):
the question anyway. How about this show five six seven?
About show we made? I can't believe I got I

(18:15):
got in before the countdown. Yeah, you know what it is.
We missed you when we missed you, and we decided
to let you in early. No, I haven't gotten to
countdown yet. That's next forward to. You can count us out,
you can you know what you can? You can count
us in, you can kind us out. Yes, we also
have a new song um for when we have a guest,

(18:36):
and I've written a new song that Donald won't lay
down for No, dude, I will lay it down. I
just need you to freaking you got to get somebody
dope to lay the track so I can say, Okay,
here you go. Salt is not a disinfectant or sanitizer.
Salt does not kill bacteria, inactivate viruses, or breakdown undesirable
organic material in the pool water. Well, your kids put
some fucking undesirable organic material. Oh my god, are you kidding?

(19:00):
My daughter threw up in the pool. She did. Yeah,
oh no, no, there was no pool and caddy shack
and he eats it, yeah he does, and everybody cringes.

(19:22):
All right, let's talk about the show Scrubs. Guys. We
opened with j D alone in an empty apartment with
this that's a real tier, and then the end of
the show. I am no Denzel Washington. I cannot squeeze
out a beautiful slow tear going down. Got that thick
You just pushed a little pull, Josh raiding on your iPod? No,
when it's m sh that's what Sarah used to listen to,

(19:46):
Josh raiden to cry. I'm sure that was a strategically
placed tier. I thought it was Sarah McLaughlin. I will
remember you. Oh, she was definitely definitely peppered in there.
You remember, he's so lonesome. He's got no Elliott in

(20:08):
his life. He's got turk leaving them for Judy and
making babies, and uh, you know, he's sitting there alone
on his boxes with a dead dog and a tear
on his face. But he could have let Turk in
with a giant pizza Nobody he did not. He Turk
hurt his feelings. Well, you know, I will say this.

(20:29):
I will say this. When this episode started off, all
I could think about was Holy cow. One, this is
the season finale, and then two, so many cool things
happen in the next season. You know what I mean?
So many cool things happened in the next season. And
season four was a really good season as well. Ye.

(20:50):
I wasn't very nostalgic about it, but I was like,
I wonder what this episode As soon as it started,
I was like, I wonder what this episode has in store, because,
as you know, I don't remember any of this. I'm like,
how would how do we close this season out? And
there are some iconic moments in this in this episode.
One you and I lying down on the basketball together.

(21:15):
That's a meme that goes That's everywhere. I see that
meme a lot. Yeah, everywhere. You're such a good friend
that you lie down next to me, so people just
think we're chilling. Yeah, even though I've knocked myself out
trying to do a hook shot. Dude, You're you're elaborate
plan to make sure that the last five people in
the hospital. I think you're a good basketball whatever it is,

(21:39):
I think you're a good basketball player goes awry and
you get knocked out from this hook shot. That was
funny though. That basketball in the head was funny. Oh,
it was funny. And when you're like, damn, we just
love the best player out here. Spread and then Donald
after he goes down and like, I got him. I
got this guy. I got this guy. He's Carl is

(22:00):
a part of the plan. She's gonna once I make
my my elaborate hook shark, she's gonna say that they
need me and then and then and then it goes bad.
And so that's one. Right now, why before you go on,
why does an ambulance pull up we're at the emergency
entrance of a hospital, because we're in the parking lot
of the hospital. This is we're playing basketball at the
emergency But the implication was that the ambulance pulled up

(22:23):
for me. No, no, no. The second I think it
was just to reinforce the point that like we're lying
in a parking lot right now. Oh, I thought it
was they called an ambulance for me, and I'm like,
we're fucking at the fucking entrance. No no, no, no, no,
because you're just lying there chilling because Donald's beside you.
Victor Nelly is a very good director, but he added
some style to this that I didn't necessarily like. There's

(22:44):
a lot of zooms all over the place. He clearly
said to Bill, Hey, what if I zoomed all over
the place every fucking two seconds. I don't mind a
zoom if it's well timed or if it fits the piece.
I didn't. I thought that putting zooms all over a
whole episode, as though it's a part of our regular

(23:06):
photographic lexicon felt odd to me. He also did that
thing later in the episode where the tiles of the
bathroom all come apart to you know, it's just not
part of Like I mean, I it's fine to explore.
It's season four, let's try some new things. To me,
they just stood out as not the way the show
is is told. So two things we've learned. Zach is

(23:26):
not a big fan of the zoom in. I don't
like random zooms for comedy. They don't usually What about
for dramas. What about for sci fi movies? There are
a lot of people out there that love the zoom in. Yeah,
I think you can make a zoom work, of course. Um,
but I just think in this they felt they pulled
me out a little bit because I'm like, that's not
that's not the way we shoot. The show, doesn't feel

(23:48):
like the show. Zach only likes a zoom for the button,
like a button to one of his comments as an
alternate for a siptake, Right, if it's like a like
a zoom zoom zoom, zom zoom, I like to zoom
m zoom zoom. Um there's zooms. I like, I'll have
to think of where I like zooms. Okay, so that's
the first one. The second one whom a big zoomer

(24:11):
myself as a filmmaker, I don't know if there's any
zooms in anyone movies, but go ahead. The second one,
who just fucking crazy? Who just crazy? At the end
when we finally realize no, no, no, no, no, no,
this isn't the game anymore. Yeah, it's fucking crazy, right
right right, and he shoot out of someone in the
elevator with a sneaker, someone who has nothing to do

(24:32):
with anything. Rocco was watching the show. He's like, did
he kill him? Timeout? He goes time out. Did he
just kill him? He literally killed that guy, And I'm like, nobody, no, no, no, no, no,
all right, Well he's shouted out to Phil Lewis because
he's always so hilarious, and this is the episode we got,
we get now. First of all, I've never heard if
this is a thing or who came up with this,

(24:53):
But putting bully on cubes in the shower heads the best.
That's a diabolical genius that whoever came up with that,
he got up on the counter with popcorn to watch
him come out, and then he didn't know it was us.
He directed a bunch, right, No, he never directed any
of these. Now he's become a big team since, but

(25:14):
he had never directed scrubs. Maybe he directed the some
of the thirteen and the two point zero. No, he
never directed any of He never directed any scrubs. He
directed a bunch of undatable because he drinks a lot
of he dressed a lot of multicam stuff, so I
know that he directed undatable a bunch. All right, Well,
let's move on. Kelseo rips a fart. Now, we don't

(25:36):
do too many fart jokes on Scrubs, but all of
a sudden, Kelso's ripping ass in the lobby. It's funny
of my professional pier I Rocko, Hi Rockold. Tell them
what happened yesterday when you when we left and how
you what did you do in front of Rocco? Did
you pee on my house? I saw a picture of

(25:56):
you peeing on my house. You were joking, You are joking.
Really okay, I think some splattered on my on my wall,
but it's okay, your dad will clean it up. What
do you what do you say to that? Okay, what's

(26:26):
up you? Okay? I love you? Okay, all right. So
scratching kilso fart reminded me, did you guys ever fart
on the show? Like in like by accident? No, if
I farted, it was for it was on purpose. So
I'm sorry, but I'm I'm I'm I'm very excited to
hear your story. Well, it just reminded me of the
one time that I did and Zach and I were

(26:48):
kind of like we're doing like a like a kissing
scene and we're standing there like over in the corner
and they're about to say and they say rolling, and
I may or may not have parted, and I was
just like, don't no, no, no no, no no no no no,
don't don't. And of course Zach was you know, just
made the biggest deal anyone could possibly make over somebody

(27:10):
farting and like I think made a song. There was
some clapping you involved in it. There was a lot
to talk about farting, and then of course that went
on the gag reel. And so we'd always had these
long gaggriels that would then play at the rap party.
So then it came time for the rat party and
then we all had to relive me farting on set
by accident, um right at the beginning, right after the
set rolling if it was an audio fart or was

(27:35):
an SPD when it was audio? Oh I heard it? Yeah,
probably so did everyone want to You have SPDs in Canada?
Do you know what that is? Silent but deadly? Yes?
I don't know. I mean I know, well, they're very adorable,

(27:56):
they're very polite. Parts, they're very polite. It's silent but
adorable all up there. Yeah, I mean, it was just
really just for some reason, why I heard kake it's fart.
I just had this wave of like the rat party
and the gag reel, and then I was just farting
at the gag, which isn't just like a few people
that were on set that may have heard it. Then

(28:16):
it was like all of the network of exacts and
people's spouses and friends and family that were also coming
to celebrate the end of the season. So that was fun.
That's funny. Everyone loves an accidental fart. All right, listen,
let's talk about how we flashback and the time Donald
comes into Turk comes into our DRM room and I'll go,
I go, I'm an eighth level over Magi with invisibility,

(28:38):
and this is Randall the Dragon. I call myself Chris One. Dude,
do you know who Chris One is? No, krs one,
Chris One. That's a that's a that was an inside
or thing that not a lot of people would I
thought a lot of people would pick up on it,
but not a lot of people did. KRS one is

(28:59):
Chris One one of the dopest m sason in the
history of hip hop. I didn't get that, did he No,
he didn't. But he wrote some of the dopest songs
I've ever heard in my life. Can I ask you
as a D and D guy, is an eighth level
ogre magi or with invisibility a real thing? Yes it is? No, yeah,
it is irrelibility. Yeah you can an ogre not an ogre.

(29:23):
He's not an ogre. He's not an ogre. He's an
ogre magi. So that's two different class that's put together,
so you can have as a class. Yeah, it's but
but Ogre's come with different with different attributes than humans do.
So if you're a magi, you're an ogre who is
also a wizard, so you could totally have invisibility spells. Okay, fine, okay,

(29:48):
well there you go. Um Or you should have seen
Donald with my nephew talking about they went like they
went like a Marvel wormhole and they're Matthew and Carrie
brothers for like fifteen minutes. Yea, they went into us,
they went into like George Joel Ewin right there with him.
There was like they were speaking Latin because of everything

(30:10):
that's happening in Loki, you know what I mean? Like it, Yes,
it's so easy to like now Marvel's becoming just a
little bit predictable, like I know what's coming next because
of what's happening. You know only goes you know the
full lineup of films coming. Well, no, but I know
what the Thunderbolt says, you know what I mean, And
I know what the freaking Secret Wars is. When they

(30:31):
started talking about these freaking timelines and all of that
stuff and the war that happened to to get about
musicals with the immediately immediately, all I could think of was,
oh shit, they're gonna do the fucking Secret Wars. They're
gonna do Secret Wars. All right, Well now we're back. Um,
what did you think of seems like a well both

(30:53):
the actor was really good Josh Randall, But did what
do you think of him as your love interests? Well,
he's great. I was trying to I had obviously, because
you guys are in the rewatch one. I mean, it's
like for me, I'm jumping out on these random episodes.
I haven't seen what happens before and what happens after,
and I'm thinking, like, I can't remember how long that
storyline was, but I feel like it was a chunk. Well,

(31:13):
you just it was like I think he did like
three episodes or something. You just recently decided to have
sex with him, okay, and that your favorite way is
to be on top with the lights off, yelling don't
look at me, so Elliott. So nobody's very likable. But

(31:36):
all of a sudden, there's this new plot point that
he's controlling you and and you do whatever he says,
and Carla is making her very pissed that you just
you're just you just do whatever he tells you to do. Yes.
One of my favorite lines of the entire episode is, Jake,
is it I know your name? I'm being condescending. It's Jake, right,

(31:56):
It's just shy of It's just I have nobody cares.
And jad has a special place of hate for all
of your lovers after him. Understandably, he's jealous because we
know that we're going to get back together and walk
off into the sunset together and make babies. Oh my god.
I my niece was watching the finale and I watched

(32:18):
a piece of it with her, and it was so
that whole like ending montage, and then they like of
the two, like you know, where you picked us together whatever,
And then they had all these clips of like just
that last episode of just shooting it, like us all
being wrapped out and doing our last take, and I

(32:38):
was a little for Clint. Yeah, anyways, I know we're
not doing the rewatch of that episode, but yes, we
do end up together. And just just seeing that was
like I just brought up all this, just that memories
of that last day. I'm like, it was so wild.
All right, well, we're gonna take a break, we come back.
We're gonna see if Sarah pardon in any of the

(32:59):
other scene right back after these words and we're bad.
We are back. Hey, listen, you were trying to get
into one day Shoon, what you're trying to do. Listen,
that's what I'm trying to get into. What we were
talking about. We were talking about Bob Kelseo farting and that,

(33:23):
but we forgot to talk about what he says after
he farts, and that he likes Korean call girls. Yes,
and he doesn't care who knows. No, he said, well,
I thought he said something about, um, he likes free
donuts and Asian prostitutes. No, he says Korean call girls.
Those are the exact words he says. He doesn't say

(33:44):
Asian prostitutes. Okay, Well, I think one was the feeding
in and one was his response, Like maybe Neil was
said the first one, Kelso responded the second. But he
doesn't care who knows he's married to a woman. Yeah,
well doesn't care that everybody. I'm old, I'm old cocks.
I don't care what you say, I don't care what

(34:05):
you think. I'll do whatever I want. I'm gonna fire,
I'm gonna tell everyone I like Asian prostitutes. I forgot
one other thing that came in with this episode, a
huge thing that we didn't talk about. Go ahead, s
c B. Yeah, super Chocolate Bear. First time it's ever said, dude,
this is like a This is an iconic episode when

(34:26):
you really think about all of the things that hit
the freaking Internet and stayed on an internet. SCB. Stuck,
It's stuck. That's something that stayed. Like people come up
to me still and call me super chocolate Bear. Yeah
you are. And when j D says it to you
and you're like, I love it, It's like I knew
you would. I had that loaded. So now the janitor

(34:52):
is walking around trying to get JD to eat this
pie right, and it's got laxatives in it and Jad's
put two and two to together. And also the Todd, Oh,
my gods eaten this pie, and he says the funniest
line of the whole episode, doozy of a choosie, make
room out of my way. I got a doozy of
a choosie. Make it stop five. First of all, the

(35:16):
janitor fucked him up so badly that he's in the iculid. Yeah,
because you and the janitor only had one bite on
the roof, and I love that the janitor would like,
I'm like, He's like, I'll take it just to get
you down, Jade. But then you guys are like on
the toilet after a bite, and like the Todd, he
probably had like a couple of slices. Well he pushed on,

(35:41):
did you notice that we're jumping ahead? But when I
had to have the explosive diarrhea next to the janitor
that you see my my toes point, I did not
see that, but you did. Oh, crack me up, like
you just see me in the janitor's legs. And then
all of a sudden something you know, obviously don't hear anything,
but you see me like point my toes and lift

(36:01):
them off the ground. What's up with the boys trying
to get rowdy to choose between the two of them,
and that's how they're going to get him. They choke four.
I don't know, dude, for the Carla because like, who's laughing,
Like no one's like, we're doing it for us? What
it's wrong with us? I don't know. I didn't get it.
I was like coming to me, I'll scratch your special region.

(36:26):
I feel like you are. You're was like set up
and you're waiting for Carla to come in or is
she like a coincidence as she comes in. It's gotta
be a coincidence that she comes in because we're doing
the joke before she walks in. Yeah, and then she
walks yeah, Elliott, you um, Sarah you um explode a
bloody nose onto your God. That was funny. It's very

(36:48):
very on brand. So I used to obviously get very
serious nosebleeds as a child, um to the point where
they would last like forty five minutes. And I remember
grade seven graduation true story. Um, we all go to
you know, rehearse and then we're gonna go get ready
at Jen Murray's house and then come back and do
our graduation. So that morning, I'm putting sunscreen on just

(37:11):
very gently because I've been having these Like I starts
a forty five minute noseblade. So I go to rehearsal.
My mom picks me up, but go to the er.
They burn the outside of my nostrils as well as
the inside, so that looks great in the pictures. And
then my mom has brought me an outfit because I'm
not gonna have time to go get changed at my
friend's house before grad and it's this like crocheted sweater

(37:31):
and this is skirt. This is not what I hadn't
done it I'm wearing to grab. So these noseblades were, yeah,
quite a thing. They started I think when I was
trying out for the basketball team, which I didn't make
in grade five, six, seven, eight or nine. But the
ball was coming towards me and it was tryouts and
I was going to catch it, and I was like,
this is it. It's my moment, it's all happening, it's

(37:52):
coming together. Someone's passing me the ball and it kind
of felt like right through my hands into my face
and triggered this. It's like, yeah, very long run of
do you think you might have a deviated septum because
of this. I do have a deviated septum, which I
found out about later when I was working on a
show and walked into a wall and he had to

(38:12):
extra my nose. But that's another story for a different
a different rewatched Sar. Do you realize you're wearing a
rhinestone shirt in this episode? And it was sparkling and
I was like, I doesn't really feel like something Elliott
would wear, but you're wearing like a Karen rhinestone. I
noticed that as well. It was just shy of saying

(38:32):
live love whatever I had on my true religion, gene
true religion. They were such a I love those jeans
and like there was definitely a bedazzled belt. But you
approved that, you approved all your Worddrobe. You went in
there and like give me the rhinestones. Do you have

(38:53):
a problem with something that I'm just wouldn't have approved?
You know, it's a lot of uh yeah. Did the
old act like the short sleever with the long sleever
underneath rocked in my everyday world? There are another two
things that I noticed about this episode that I thought,
were you know this this These were very on brand

(39:17):
John c McGinley has a freaking monologue. The size of
that shit had to be like three pages, man, where
he's talking about his wife and how she h you
know what I mean, like how her happiness and everything
like that. Dude, that monologue was for ever and he
rattles through it and they cut away from it a

(39:37):
couple of times, meaning like maybe he didn't get it
all in one, but you know, he'd strive to get
in in one. But it was gigantic and he freaking
masterfully does it. That's one thing. Another thing that I
was like, holy shit about was Sam Lloyd. Dude, you
don't talk about him. We don't talk about him enough.

(39:58):
And how fucking amazing is at how amazing he was
at physical comedy. His beats in this are all physical
comedy and they're so funny, typewriter everything, Like Cabinet. He
hits that final cabinet twice in two different ways, and
they're both the most solid hits. I mean, it's like
WWE wrestling masterful. Man. We don't talk about that enough,

(40:20):
just like, you know, because he's in a lot of
episodes and and and I don't know, maybe it's because
maybe it's because we miss him or I don't know
what it is, but we I just want to say, man,
we don't do him enough justice in saying how funny
he is, because he was so, so, so funny. The
character is not really the same person. He's trying to

(40:41):
do calculations on a typewriter. Yeah, he's not necessarily. And
then Jordan takes his office and did you notice that
he's set up? And it kind of grazed by it,
but he I wonder if that must have been a
longer beat that they cut out or something, because he's
got his whole desk set up at the gameteria. Well,

(41:05):
he's amazing and always flop sweating and so good. And
now so now I take on Hooch because I'm mad
at Turk, so I try to take on Hooch. Is
my new best friend. Chocolate Bear number two? You call him? Yes?
And then you come over and I go, now, come on,
don't be obvious, and I go, that seat's taken, ass face. Yea, hello,

(41:28):
Chocolate Bear number two. And then he's riding on the
back of the scooter with you and everything. Yeah, and
he's got already has a personalized helmet and he and
I I say that it's your fault of the bullying cubes,
and he goes, if it happens again, I'm gonna take
out funny of fingers. It'll be my funny little prank.

(41:56):
Why who is legit crazy? He almost kills someone with
a sneaker? Legit crazy? And then so let's talk about
Elliot and a new job. Yeah, I forgot that hospital.
I forgot too. Yeah, remember she season five, she starts
in a different hospital. I think, Sarah, you weren't even
shooting with us for like the first couple episodes. Yeah,

(42:18):
it was like on a different a different campus. I
feel like, is that I don't remember if that's when
I start. There was one season where I stopped wearing
scrubs and I was like, yeah, that sounds kind of fun.
Let's wear some It's been five seasons or whatever, how
many seasons of I'll just wear some fancy was healthy
hospital at the wardrobe fitting, and I was so pumped
that I was wearing all these cute dresses with this

(42:40):
like little lab coat and these like crazy high heels,
and I was like, oh, this is awesome. And we
were like four days in and I was like, why
did I do this? Why didn't I stay in scrubs,
like just like brow your in scrubs, Jamie's and sneakers
every day. And then I'm like in you know, yeah,
high heels marching down the hall. It was good, though

(43:00):
I thought it smarting them in season five to show
the difference between a hospital that has more money and
this hospital, which is supposed to be a city hospital
without a lot of money that's coming to your season five,
even with the nose spitting, the nose blade blood everywhere,
still got it because even you must have a really
good interview because you you splattered blood all over his

(43:21):
face and still got the job. Dude. The ship starts
leaking too. It's not like it just like usually when
you see nosebleeds and shows, just like it stays there.
But this thing starts dripping down. They must have just
done like an eye dropper of blood and then ran
off camera because it was like slowly coming down, slowly
going down, and then I'm alone. We revealed that the

(43:44):
it's not a tier, it's in fact my leaky ceiling
and big gass stunt of the bathtub falling through into
my apartment and the ad ship was hilarious. I think
I'm gonna have a new beautiful neighbor to flirt with.
And then her husband jump town. So her boyfriend her husband.
But not only does he jump down, he's superhero. Jumps

(44:04):
down too, but he lands and it's real heroic and
he's like, yo, you looking at my girl? Yeah. I
would have been like, yeah, my fucking y'all just fell
through the roof. Yeah, I just got this place. And
she was kind of flirting for a second. She's like, sorry, yeah,

(44:24):
he just felt through the ceiling. Calm down. Now what
were they doing that? She's in the tub and he's
not in the tub, but he still has on a
freaking towel. He just got out of the tub. He
got out of the tub or he was shaving. I
don't know. All I know is she's in the tub,
the tub drops filled with the water, and then he comes.
He jumps down. He doesn't fall through, he jumps down

(44:46):
and he's got on a towel. Right, we couldn't show
his penis, don't I understand that, Zach? But what the
hell are they doing upstairs? And much better finale if
he jumped down with his dog flopping, they would have
left that they would show yeah, that would stay in

(45:07):
the show, but not marijuana. No, no, we're not marijuana. Dude.
Let me ask you a question. Did they show down
one firefly line? Yeah? No, don Did they show boot
booty crack a tiny bits? Not mine, not yours? No,

(45:28):
they show they show who do they? What do they?
What do they show? I think it's one of those
things where like, you know, yeah, when you go when
we were doing scrubs, like you're in Broun Underwear a lot.
But there's obviously like that kind of framework around network
television where there's only a certain point you can go
and then um, yeah, as soon as you go to cable,
there's like you know, there's it's a conversation did and

(45:51):
say how how how naughty are you willing to be?
Wasn't so much like that, It was it was pretty collaborative,
like as different scenes came up. It was kind of
organic the way it would work. And I got a
lot of same terms of the you know, if we're
an underwear what said underwear we're or could bring my
own in And also I notice your character has jungle

(46:12):
fever on that show. Also, like Big Time, she is
a interraction though if we can use that term anymore.
Joel can we? Oh, Donald can't? I can't. Just checking
Spike Lee made the movie, Okay, I'm just double checking.
I don't want to get Donald in trouble for saying,
d y'all can't even sing that song. Huh wever in love?

(46:38):
I can bop my head while you sing. So, Sarah,
they come to you and they're like, hey, you have
a sex scene coming up. Will you show Ariola or
no Ariola? How does it work? So they we have
a scene coming up, and um, and yeah, when you

(47:00):
read it, you can kind of usually get a fairly
good idea, you know, of what it's gonna of what
it's going to be. But there was really there was
nothing that was you know, that we did that was
out of my comfort zone. Um, other than the course,
like it's Canada and it's winter and it's freezing, and
the one day that we have snow on the ground
is the day that I'm answering the door naked. So

(47:22):
it was like, you know, there's there's snow everywhere and
I'm in like obviously I didn't show everything, but I
was in very you know, as in undis and like
stickers and answer the door where it's less than zero
degrees and multiple takes of that. And then the other
one was the pool where there was a lot of
discussion over that scene, you know, like how is that
going to work where you kind of drop off your

(47:42):
clothes and then you dive into the pool. So how
are we going to get that shot where we get
and make the story makes sense to get you into
the water. And then I was maybe you should up
the sex a bit because Donald's wife and and are
assuming to be guests are big fans of Bridgerton for

(48:03):
you and um and uh and you know that. I
haven't seen it, but I'm told it's very steamy. So
maybe a firefight coming back for season two though I know,
but there'll be somebody else with abs, I'm sure. I'm
just saying sorry to take it up to Bridgerton level
sex on Firefly Lane, we can ask one of your

(48:26):
favorite viewers, Amanda, who's going to join us in a second.
She really really really loves Firefly Lane, don't you clues? Yeah,
she says she does, and tight Hi clutes. All right,
She's gonna join us in a second. We will be
right back to have Amanda Clutes. She's gonna talk about
how much she loves ours show, snore, and then we're
gonna talk about live your life. We'll be right back.

(48:54):
All right, we're back. Um, I don't have a splitter,
So I doesn't have a splitter. You have technology. The
joke is that Sarah can barely ever manage even get
on the zoom call. I'm with you, Sarah, I'm with you,
Thank you right, don't believe it. I can't even email

(49:16):
very books. Ask me to sign over email. I have
to send it to my assistant to sign Look at
that's how bad. I got an assistant now, and everything's fancy.
She is so fancy. For those of you who don't
know who our guest is, she hosts a very very
popular talk show called The Talk Yes and uh. Not
only does she do that, she also has a wonderful

(49:38):
book that she just put out herself. I'm gonna hold
it up like a real talk show host, does you know,
like on the talk shows when they when they hold
up the book, the name of the book and go ahead.
If you're listening, you can't see what a good job
I am of being a talk show host. This is
what would happen on The Talk right, Amanda, we would
hold up the book and go, We're so happy to
have amand includes here. Her new book is Live Your Life.

(50:01):
She wrote it with her sister Anna Kluth, and it's
flying off the shelves. Right. That sound like I could
be on the Talk. It was, Yes, I'm auditioning to
do a guest spot on the Talk. I have told
them to get you into be I know Jerry O'Connell
is doing guest spots on the Talk. I feel like
Donald and I should steal that position from Jerry. Jerry O'Connell.
Jerry is a king of guests, hosting man. Yes, he's

(50:22):
very funny, but I feel like you and I could
come on the Talk and really crush it. Jerry also
has a splitter on hand, always like you need to
sit that kind of fallback joke. Commanda, for those of
you keep them wait, so wait, let's talk about fire
Flame one more thing on fire for plane. Amanda is
your biggest fan. She would She would text me like,

(50:43):
are you watching Sarah's show? It is amazing? She loves it. Yes, answer.
I watched a couple episodes and when there was when
there was no coin slot, I ducked out jes so
you know Sarah. I was like, you need to watch it.
You have to support your friend. She's amazing, and he
was like I know, and I'm like, no, you don't understand.
She's incredible in this show. I am a huge fan.

(51:07):
And then I would DM her and I'd be like,
you're amazing. Yeah, Amanda is the reason you got season
two because she's broadcasting it out all over the place. Yeah,
my wife loves Firefly Lane, and the one thing she
says after watching every episode is Sarah is so fucking
good Sarah. She's so good. Donald. After I was dm

(51:31):
ng Sarah, I would DM Casey and I'd be like, Casey,
are you watching Sarah on Firefly? I'm not kidding you.
She would be like, girl, you know I'm watching. I know,
And I'm like I know. And then I was like, yes,
she always been this amazing, this is amazing. Yeah, that's
what you did say. Zach did say, No, she's always
been amazing. Well, but the world is finally seeing all

(51:53):
her different levels. She was known on our show for
being hilarious, but now on Firefly she's playing a lot
of dramatic stuff. Plus she got jungle fever. Can say,
only I can and you will. All right, now, listen.
Um is another thing that both Amanda and your wife love.
They d m about that and talk about what's his
name's abs? No, they don't talk about his abs? No,

(52:16):
what are they talk about? He shows coin slot at
the last episode. It was like, it's so steamy, you
should watch it, and I'm not gonna watch. I'm not
gonna wait for the CEM scene. She's like, okay, episode six,

(52:37):
So I told her once. I was like, I'm just
gonna fast forward episode six and see what everybody's talking about.
I never did well this, Maybe Zach and Donald Bridgeton
could be your next like when you want to slide
in some other rewatch for your podcast to stretch out.
I'm not gonna watch, but I watching that way. I
think Casey and Amanda should do a brit rewatch. That

(52:59):
would mean you know what, Zach, we should go on
vacation and Casey and Amanda should take over the podcast.
Well you watch that, yeah, Daniel, do you watch Bridgton? No?
I don't watcher. Did you watch episode six? I hear
that's where on the episodes it was like Game of

(53:23):
Thrones level of like, oh, my we're just worth going for.
Oh yeah, there's no fighting, it's all sex. Yeah, that's
where you lose me. You lose me there. I gotta
see some like skulls bashed in and then sex, and
then it works for me. I haven't watching, but I
hear that's very steamy too, uncomfortably from my mom. She

(53:46):
was like this Outland is hot and heavy. Wid Um,
all right, listen, let's segue into something on the total
opposite side of the spectrum. Um, we all know from
from the show what happened to Amanda and our friend Nick,
and I have to say something. I honestly thought Amanda,

(54:06):
and I've told you this. I'm going to say it
very tactfully because I'm a talk show host on this
show today. I did not think this was going to
be as good as it is. That was very tactful. Yes,
Sterry O'Connell did, though he knew. He knew, No, I listen,
when your friend writes a book, and of course it's
about something so personal, I knew I was going to
read it and love it because I love Amanda and

(54:28):
I love Nick more than anything I could. I'm not
just saying this, listeners, because this affected our lives so
much and affected the person next to me more than anything.
But I could not put this book down. Amanda. You
did such an incredible job telling this story, and it
isn't just the sad parts of what happened. It jumps

(54:49):
back and forth between the love story of you and
Nick and I guess my first question is like, how
the hell did you do this? I know you had
some help from your sister, Anna, who's a professional writer,
but tell us the story of how this came about
and how it's so darned good. Well, it is a
true fifty fifty collab. Guys, like Anna is an incredible writer,

(55:10):
but she also lived with us during this whole entire time,
and she was kind of like Nick and I third
wheel even like in our throughout our relationship in New York.
She was on part of our honeymoon with us like Anna,
and Nick loved Anna. He always was like, is Annie
come in? Annie's coming? Oh good, and he's coming. So
she just knew a lot about our life. And she's

(55:31):
an incredible writer, and she literally we communicate telepathically. So
she was the only person that I wanted to do
this with. And HarperCollins suggested a ghostwriter, and Anna has nothing,
you know, published of this nature, so they were a
little hesitant, to say the least. But then she sent
to the sample of their writing. They emailed right back

(55:52):
and they were like, oh no, no, no no, no, no, yes,
please do this. Lucky because a ghostwriter, who's you know,
for those of you don't know, is someone who's sort
of high in the background and help someone write a
book who's never written a book that would have been
so impersonal. Whereas Anna, as you'll see him when you
read the book, was by a man to side. I mean,
it's also just there's so many beautiful things in this book.

(56:13):
But one of the other themes that is so incredibly
moving is the bond between you and your sister and
how she was by your side every single step of
the way. Yeah, no, she was. I couldn't have gotten
through this without her. I mean, you know, you saw
it firsthand. But Anna and my brother Todd, you know, Yeah,
Anna was like Elvis's second mom when I was at
the hospital every day, and I never knew how long

(56:34):
I was able to stay at the hospital, So she
was always just kind of like literally second mom and
took over and never asked for anything in return. She
just did it with you know, a smile on her face. No,
it was amazing, and we wrote it together, we really did.
I mean she was in Paris, I was here in La.
I would put Elvis to bed and I would start
writing around eight pm, trying to keep my eyes open.

(56:56):
But I you know, we had that such a deadline.
You usually get like at least a year to write
a book. They gave us five months. And so I
was like at you know, my computer every night at
eight pm, and then I would go to sleep and
send her whatever I wrote. And then she would be
waking up in Paris and she would say, sister, I'm
on it. Let's let's I'll look through everything you just

(57:16):
sent me. So it was kind of like everyone. You know,
we were working on at twenty four seven, which is
I think how we got it done in five months. Yeah,
that's how they do visual effects sometimes on giant movies,
like when when when La stops some foreign nation begins,
and so it's being worked on in twenty four seven.
I'm gonna I want to ask you original questions and
have these guys ask you original questions. But I'm gonna

(57:37):
ask you a question. I know you get asked a lot,
but it's hard not to read this book and not
want to ask you. And I want to ask you,
as someone who's your best friend, how the hell have
you stayed so strong? This was the hardest thing that
anyone could ever go through, and it happened pretty fast,

(58:01):
and yet you never of course you had your horrible moments,
I'm sure, but how the hell did you manage to
stay so strong and also simultaneously raise a little baby
during all this? Um? I think you know, in writing
everything down, it helps you kind of like look retrospectively
and kind of figure out how you did it. But

(58:23):
I think a couple of things. The first is the
help of my family. I could not I could not
have done this. You know. My brother and sister came in,
and then my mom and dad came in, and then
Leslie came in, and so I literally had like a
huge support system that allowed me to go be with
Nick every day and fight for him and research and
do everything and I did with Nick. The second is

(58:44):
you know my faith in God and what I believe,
And I just feel like, you know, when you're going
through something this hard, when you have this trauma faced,
you know, every day, and this horrible news every single day.
To be able to give that burden to something else
that is higher and bigger than you. Of course you're
going to always carry it on your shoulders and it'll

(59:06):
always be in your heart, but like just to be
able to to pray and ask for prayer and ask
for that support, just like it gave the burden to
something else bigger than me. So that was huge. And then,
you know, I think I think I'm innately a fighter.
I'm innately somebody that I realized in writing this book.

(59:28):
I actually got nervous about it. I was like, do
I thrive under pressure? Like? Am I somebody? It's something
I asked my therapist, like do I am I the
best version of myself under like extreme amounts of pressure?
Which is something that I've tried to figure out and
deal with because it's like worrisome obviously, right, Like what
do you do when everything's fine? Are you? Are you okay?

(59:51):
Or are you like your best version when you have
to like throw down and like live life on a moment. Well,
I think You've always had a pretty extraordinary life. But
I feel like I, you know, Donald gets a mosquito
bite and he goes to see like a surgeon, and
I have a bit of bad news and I get
in the fetal position and get onto the covers, and
I'm reading this book and it's just incredible. How you

(01:00:14):
how you were able to persevere and and and fight
every single day. Well thanks, but I mean you know
you would do the same thing if it was your
person lying in the ICU and they couldn't speak for
themselves and they couldn't do anything. I mean, you would
do anything and everything you can. I mean, you would,
um and you know, I mean you knew Nick as

(01:00:37):
you know, he would want me to you know what
I mean. He would want me to fight, he would
want me to research. He would want me to be
the best mom I could be for Elvis, like he
would want me to move forward with my life. A
lot of people, you know, ask me that about, you know,
just living now, and I'm like, yes, I could live
in grief every single I cry every day still, of
course I do. And it's like I cried myself to

(01:00:59):
sleep last night. That's never going to change. But I
know Nick would want me to move forward, you know
what I mean. If he could have said anything on
his deathbed. He would have said, don't you dare stop
living your life. I want you to find love again.
I want you to raise our sun with joy and happiness.
I want you to work, I want you to thrive.

(01:01:19):
I want you to succeed. I mean, I would have
said the same thing to him, so I know it's
what he would have said to me. Yeah, you guys
can feel free to chime in if you want to
say anything. I anyone to monopolize the interview of our
fancy guests. Well, I just want to say that I'm
completely in awe of your strength. I followed you kind

(01:01:40):
of just from the beginning of when it all started
to happen, and we were, you know, jumping rope every
day at three o'clock and singing Live your Life, and
my nieces would jump with me. And it was truly
an incredible thing to watch your strength. There's nothing quite

(01:02:06):
like it. And I don't know how you did it.
And it was just incredible to see this rallying, crying.
How you brought together your family, your friends, your community,
and then the world, all of these strangers and you
know this this year was complicated and hard for people

(01:02:29):
all in different ways to see you right at the
beginning of it take such a powerful, optimistic, hopeful, strong
stance was just so inspiring and um, I think you,
you know, have changed a lot of and affected just
a lot of people because of it. And I just, um,

(01:02:53):
I think you're incredible. Thanks Sarah. Yeah, I just want
to say. I want to say, like, look, when one
of my greatest fears in life is that when I
pass away, I won't be I will not have made
a mark, and I will not have I will not

(01:03:13):
be remembered for the things that I've done, whether it'd
be raising my children, whether it'd be you know, my work,
whatever it is. And what was so awesome when Nick
was when Nick was in the hospital and everything like that,
the way dude was a rock star, you made him
a rock star. He had a hit record like all

(01:03:35):
of his It's crazy, like all of his dreams before
he passed came true because of you and you're and
you're being able to represent him. I always I pray
that when you know that these are things, that these
are things that we have no control over anything, but
everybody wants to be remembered for something, and you made

(01:03:57):
it happen, you know what I mean, everybody knew who
he was before he left, and that's something that you
know as a performer, and maybe it's me being maybe
it's my vanity, whatever it is. You always want to
leave a mark, and he was able to leave a
mark thanks to you. And I just wanted to I
just wanted you know that. I think that's such an

(01:04:17):
amazing uh quality to have as a partner, you know
what I mean, Like we always say we're in it
together and everything like that, but when the chips are
down and everything and it's and and the going gets rough,
you know, they write songs about it where you can
you stand the rain and uh I I I I

(01:04:39):
know that my wife would do the same for me.
But you know, it was just so amazing to see
the love that you had for him and what you
were willing to do to make sure he was represented.
And that's so dope. Well thanks, Donald, I mean, you know,
I think honestly, um that you know, that was obviously

(01:05:01):
never not the intention in the beginning of sharing the story,
but when as like so many people started following the
story and praying for Nick and supporting us, and Nick
and his family It kind of just unfolded that way
because I wanted people to know who they were supporting,
you know what I mean. And Nick couldn't talk right.
So I was like, okay, you guys are like I

(01:05:22):
have all these people all over the world singing this
man's song. They should know who he is. They got
to know some stories about him and us, and like,
if you're praying for us every single day, like I
want you to know who you're praying for. I want
you to understand who we are and who he is
and why I love him and why I think he's special.
But you know, I will have to say, like I mean,

(01:05:43):
Zach knows. You know. Nick was forty one and he
wanted to, you know, have this music career, and we
just had a new baby and we moved to LA
and we had no money and it was a bit
of a struggle and I wasn't necessarily the most supportive wife.
And his you know, I want to go on tour
in a truck and play cities across America with our
baby and two dogs. And I was like, how does that?

(01:06:09):
How does that work? And he's like, you can teach
fitness in all the cities and we could live out
of a van, and I was like, you know, um,
And so I wasn't necessarily the most supportive, but I
will say, um, you know, in in this journey and
playing his song every day and you know, just making
everybody else sing his song. You know, I turned into

(01:06:31):
his biggest fan, which I you know, like I know
he knows now, but you know, it just sits it.
I'm I'm glad I turned into his biggest fan because
he was so talented and he didn't know everything about music.
That guy was like he just he knew everything. Well,

(01:06:51):
I was reading the book. I there's so many amazing
stories about your romance and fall in love, and I
just love the way you structure because this story what
happened is quite tragic, but there's so much love and hope.
And there's the love of you two falling in love
with each other. There's the familial love of you and
your siblings rallying them rallying around you. There's the community

(01:07:15):
of love, our friends that that did our best to
rally around you. And then because you were so diligent
about sharing this story on Instagram and the web, people
all around the world. I mean, when you see the
Amanda talks about the letters she gets from so many
countries around the world, and she would read them to
Nick and so many people who just would pray and

(01:07:39):
sing with her and share their love. It was just
it was just really heartwarming in a way that at
such a horrible time, so many thousands and thousands of
people rallied together for you. Yeah, it was It's crazy.
I still honestly can't believe it. You know, Instagram archives
all of your stories and things, which is how I
got a lot of information and back to write down

(01:08:01):
in this book, because this book is so detailed, heavily detailed,
and a lot of it was right in my brain
just because you know, when you're that into something like this,
you just remember the medicines, the doctors. You just it's
right there. But I would go back into Instagram archives
and watch like all the three PM singings and all
of the people that would send their messages from like

(01:08:22):
literally all over the world, and there'd be nights I
would cry myself to sleep just being like, how did
this happen? How did this? How? You know? It doesn't
eat like the story with everything that happened with Nick
seems still surreal to me. But even just like that,
everything that the rally of the people that supported us

(01:08:42):
just doesn't even still seem real. It's crazy. I like
it when the world shows that people are good. Sometimes yeah, no,
I think you know what though, Like that's what I
think though, was one of the most beautiful takeaways from
this pandemic is that for the first time in our
lives the world, we were all on the same note.
Everybody was doing the exact same thing, everybody, and so

(01:09:05):
it forced us all to just like go back to
our roots. And I think innately the roots of humans
is just kindness. We want to be kind people, and
we and we could be for the first time because
all distractions of life were gone and we had nothing
else to do. I don't know if I could rally
this army now with everybody back in their lives and
work and busyness. But at the moment, it's like it

(01:09:28):
was this perfect, weird moment of everybody needing a community,
needing something to do. And so I think when I
was like three pm, everybody's singing. Everybody was like, it
is on the schedule. I have nothing else on the schedule,
but I have that three pm. We're saying it, I can't,
I can't lie on the couch, and three I have
to sing it through. Yes, it was like something to do,

(01:09:50):
and it gave people something to do. And I think
also it goes without saying that we had just been
told this was only putting old people in the ICU,
and so Nick became the face of the fact that
this could happen to a forty one year forty one
year old UM and that was really terrifying, but also

(01:10:10):
important for people to know, to to land that another
thing you might not know. And I'm going to tell
our listeners this for the very first time. UM. I
have a little cabin um behind my house, UM that
I named probably fifteen years ago when I got it
brown Bear Cabin after Donald, And no one knows that

(01:10:32):
unless you come here. We just jokingly all call it
brown Bear Cabin because as you all know, I love
Donald that I'm obsessed with all things Donald, face on him,
naming structures after him. Well, that is where Amanda and
Nick and Elvis were living when Nick got sick. So
one of the most said three words in the whole
book is brown Bear Cabin. So Donald, I want you
to know that you're a big part of this book

(01:10:53):
game where we lived, we couldn't do, weren't going anywhere else,
You didn't. I mean, you know, at this time, we forget,
you know how different the world was a year ago.
You know, like we're already back into this new world.
We forget a year ago. We were afraid to leave
our house. We thought groceries had COVID on them. Yeah,
you know what I mean. I remember wiping down my

(01:11:15):
groceries with you know, antibacterial wipes and you know, like food,
actual food, like literally wiping down tomatoes and apples and
stuff like that. Scared that I would I remember going
outside and literally treating people like they had the plague,

(01:11:38):
literally like don't come near, don't come near my family,
don't caring for the hardest thing for me and a
Mando was that I had to I said. As I
finished the book, and I said to her, one of
the things I said was I I we were just
so scared. We didn't know what to do. AMANDU was

(01:11:59):
with We didn't know if a man had it or not. Obviously,
and a man is kind of living proof that someone
can not get it, because the fact that you never
got it is pretty miraculous. I mean, I mean, I
don't know. I'm still I know the science is still
rolling out, but a man, the fact that Amanda never
got it is pretty amazing. And so there were times,

(01:12:21):
some of the hardest times. I can remember watching you
cry and I didn't know what to do because I
had to stay six feet from her, so I would
stand there watching her cry, which I remember. Do you
remember the day that Nick? So it was good Friday.
Nick died on the table for two minutes. It was
the first time that he died, and they resuscitated him

(01:12:45):
and got him back and we're putting him on an ECMO.
But there was a moment in time where I did
not know if he was going to survive and be
put on this machine. So I of course desperately called
Zach and our friend Trevor, and they came running down.
But they both like and I'm in the cabin obviously,
I just got told my husband and died for two minutes.
So I'm disastrous on the floor of the cabin. I
don't even remember where Elvis was. I was like just

(01:13:07):
I couldn't even focus. And I remember like both you
and Trevor like you didn't like you cut you. It
was the early days of COVID, like super early. This
was like March, you know, end of March, Like we
were all terrified. And I just remember, like you could
you You didn't even want to walk in the cabin.
You didn't know what to do. Probably put masks on, yeh.
I sat like on the ground because Amanda was sobbing

(01:13:29):
on the ground and Trevor and I sat six feet
from her, um like on the ground with her. And
it was one of the hardest things I've ever experienced
in my life to not be able to go and
hug someone in so much pain. Yeah, I was so crazy. No,
I mean, but I could have. I mean, I could
have had it, you know what I mean, like I

(01:13:50):
think you know, yeah, I mean, yeah, luckily. I mean
that was the weirdest thing though. I mean. Next doctor said,
you know there's people in the icy or their whole
family have got it, and then there's people like your family,
where one person gets in everyone else is completely fine,
which was what made it so hard. He said, all
the time, it's like the wild world West. We do
not know how to how to operate around this virus

(01:14:13):
because it is always different and every crazy thing about
Nick that a lot of people don't know, and you'll
learn in the book, is that COVID came and did
what it did to Nick's body and then left, so
all of so much of what happened to Nick, COVID
was long gone out of his body. He wasn't even
on a COVID floor. But it came in, destroyed his lungs,

(01:14:36):
destroyed his body and his organs, and then was gone.
And that's something a lot of people are surprised by
that Nick wasn't COVID positive for that long. I remember,
I remember, you know what. I also remember, I remember
Amanda telling us what was happening to Nick, and then
that becoming news two weeks later or a week later,

(01:14:59):
where was like, you know, it does this to your lungs,
and then two weeks later the whole thing about how
it affects people's respiratory system, how blood clotting could happen,
and then two weeks later the blood cloud story. Can
I just remember, I remember being like, holy cow, this
dude's going through it seemed like he went through all

(01:15:21):
of it, Like every effect that COVID could have on someone,
he went through it. And I remember being like I
remember being like, this is how is this happening to
this one person? How is this one person experiencing all
of these symptoms, you know? And you just said, you know,
he only had it for a couple of weeks. And
then that was it, Like it really took it, really did.

(01:15:43):
I mean, there's a nuclear bomb on his body. I mean,
it just nuclear bombed his lungs. They said, what did
they say? He looked like he was a smoker for
fifty years, orn't yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you guys the
first time they showed me his lung scans. I mean,
it's the stories in the book. But I came home
to the I couldn't even talk and taught and Anna

(01:16:05):
knew something was wrong. And then I broke down and
told them what I saw, and I thought for sure
Nick would go that day. I was like those who
you don't recover, I mean the huge holes in his lungs, huge,
like you know. And then but then this is what's crazy,
and you'll read about it in the book The Ups
and Downs of the ICU. That's one doctor's opinion. And

(01:16:27):
then literally the next morning after a X annex and
no sleep that night because I thought no ways, my
husband even making another day, I get another phone call
from my doctor, who I love, the positive doctor, and
he was like, Amanda, God gave us so much more
long than we need. He's fine, And I was like, what, like,
but like this was the daily literally the daily battle

(01:16:49):
of my life during these times where it was like
one doctor says something where you are like preparing for
the worst, and then two seconds later they call and go, oh, no, no, no,
that are fine. Everything looks good, doing great today. Yeah.
One of the frustrating things you'll read about the book
is that Amanda had to deal with you know, doctors don't,
as we know from the television show Scrubs, doctors don't

(01:17:12):
always agree how to treat someone or what the prognosis is.
And there was a roller coaster ride for her. But
the flip side of things, man, is this a testament
to a lot of amazing healthcare heroes in this book.
The nurses that were angels angels angels to Amanda, and
the orderlies and the doctors. There's one in particular. Amanda

(01:17:34):
changed most of the names of people, not so not
to disturb their privacy, but one doctor is such a hero,
was such a hero is such a hero to Amanda
that she asked his permission and kept his name because
he's He's the kind of doctor we honor on this
show and celebrate because he was by your side all
the time. Yeah, he's the best. He's now my doctor.

(01:17:55):
When I reached out to him after Nick passed, because
I still hadn't found a doctor in LA, I was like, hey,
doctor ing, um, I really need a doctor. Probably good
for me to just you know, have somebody that I
can go to, you know, at any time. And he
was like, if you feel okay, It was like, you know,
I would happily take you on as a patient. And

(01:18:16):
he was like, I understand if that's weird though, And
I was like, actually, no, I have your cell phone,
which is amazing, and I can get a hold of
you at any moment, and like we went to war together,
like we really did. I mean he he says in
this book after Nick passes, there's a beautiful moment where
we get to kind of chat after a couple of days,

(01:18:39):
and he said to me, he goes, I've talked to
you more than my wife in the last three months,
so not talking to you for three days felt very weird.
How are you? What's the kind of man he is?
And he would just text her all the time and
and he's such a hero and and and by the way,
this is happening to remind us all at the most

(01:19:01):
insane time that's ever happened in this country, all while
a pandemics going on at Cedar Sinai, one of the
biggest hospitals in La So anyway, I love you, we
love you. This is incredible. Um, listeners, I love you too.
I'm not just saying this because I love her, I genuinely,
if you want to know more about the story, and

(01:19:23):
also if you're someone who's gone through grief and uh
and and found a way to stand back up again
and uh, it's just it's an incredible piece of work.
I think this is going to be a best seller
if I could predict. Um. It's called Live Your Life.
So it's out. You can get it at your local bookshop.
You can get it on Amazon wherever you buy books.
Live Your Life by Amanda cludes Amanda. Thank you so much,

(01:19:45):
Thank you, Amanda. Can't wait to read it. I pre
ordered the second I could and it's on its way.
How are you going to do an audio book. Are
you gonna do an audio book? So I did do
the audio book. Um. It was an incredible, lee hard experience.
But the audio book is available and as soon as
you order, it's in your inbox. Donald, I know you

(01:20:05):
like audio books, so you should get it. I cry
a lot while speaking, but they assured me that that's
okay to do. You should have got I'm a handful
of sentences I have in the book. Not to make
this about me, but I should have been called in
to read my sentences for the I did your voice out. Um,

(01:20:32):
all right, everybody, thank you so much. We love you. Donald.
You want to Sarah Chalk, You're the greatest. We're happy
about Firefly Lane. Um, maybe consider coin slot. I don't
know Donald when I, um, you know, I you know,
you know how it goes man with me? I yeah,
I love everybody, even my haters, So you don't have
any haters. Everybody loves the Donald. Trust me. I have

(01:20:53):
some haters, but I love you too. Um, Joel and Daniel. Um,
should we tell everyone what we're doing tomorrow? Oh my gosh,
I'm gonna tell them if they're not gonna tell them. Yeah,
we're going to Disneyland. Dude, we are going to disney
Land and we're gonna get on Small World. We don't
we get Star Wars. We know we're gonna get on Nemo.

(01:21:16):
We're gonna ride to ride with Nemo. We're gonna, We're gonna,
We're gonna. What else are we gonna do? We do?
I'm not doing the ones that make me woozy. We're
gonna do Guardian to the Galaxy that we're going to
the Marble campus round. Yes, we're doing that for sure,
that's what you think. Oh yeah, knocking me, I've got
bad back. It's never well, you're gonna but you are

(01:21:39):
going to enjoy these rides. I'm telling you that right now.
Don't thank y'all are going to Disneyland and just build
a lightsaber. You're going to Disneyland and get on some
rides to whether it be Small World. Okay, all right,
we love you guys, and we'll see you next time. Sarah,
you have the honor of counting your South. But do
it in German. Even though stories about sure we made

(01:22:03):
about a bunch of docs and nurses and the janitor
who loved him, I said, hear the stories. Nets all
should know