Ronald Gladden From the Block (and Jury Duty)

Ronald Gladden looked for a job online and wound up in a real-life Truman Show when he learned the documentary he signed up for was actually a reality TV show where he was the main character. Since Jury Duty became a national sensation, Gladden moved to Los Angeles and began a new life. But he never forgot who he is: a down-to-earth, hard-working, nice guy. Zach and Donald talk to Gladden about dating after a reality TV series, living without your phone, and what he learned about Mormons. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I keep forgetting that we're doing video. And then I
watched these video clips back and I laugh at them
because they're funny. But then my vanity kicks in and
I'm like, bro, fucking clean yourself up for these videos.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
You know what? That's because you're a single man. Bro.
Maybe my clips.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Talking you're talking Brian Bobgartner and looking like shit.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, it's because you want the freaking ladies to be
like Yo, you see how handsome.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
No Maach was. It's reeling about ladies. It's just about
like my own.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
We just did nine thousand of these episodes with no
one looking. Now, I'm like, look at my fit and
I watch all these podcasters. I told you they have
like the great lighting and everything. I want better lighting.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Damn all right, So look, if you want to we
got to step up. We'd have to step up to
another level, and that means going into a studio.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, we're not doing that. I'm just saying I feel
like Dannel with his connections. I mean I have connections too,
but I'd rather use iheart's money. Could could send someone
over who would do a better lighting setup than I have.
Maybe I get a drop. No one needs to look
at my fucking dirty ass couch. I could get a
nice little drop, bro, Do you get Brodie? You is

(01:14):
always fire. You need to shut the fuck up. The
coloratura enough.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Listen, listen to this. Your sweatshirt matches, the background, matches
the outside, So please stop with the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Can I just say one more thing?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Since I've known you, this is ridiculous. Ahead, your wallpaper
is fly and you sit here and you complain about
how bad Uh the backdrop is bad. I don't like
the way I look. You're a handsome fucking dude, Heather
Graham on this podcast. Do I need to remind everybody
to you?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Zach, come on, you know you're a good looking guy,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
She did? I need that for the sound machine. Daniel,
Oh yeah, I pulled. I just think that the colored
the colored temperature is a bit off. See, I could
warm my skin up a little, Daniel, with some I
could just change the kelvin uhca on the lamps, temperature
on the lamp.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
You are Vanity bro. If this way, if we were
the Smurfs, you would.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Wasn't Vanity smurf? Very effeminate? I don't think that would
fly these days.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
M vanity and effeminate?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was he wasn't?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
He was?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
He was his name Vanity.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Smurfe, and he just liked to look in the mirror
all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, but he was also very effeminate, I believe, Joel.
Do you recall before the time, Daniel, can you look up?
Was Vanity Smurf effeminate and gauge coated? As your friend said,
you could?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
You could say that because Vanity Smurf wore a flower
in their hat, a pink stiller, which I think did.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh you use then you used they them for Vanity Smurf, Danel.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
You said, I don't know how the Smurfs identify.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, there's and then there's a smurf veet.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
There well Smurf that was created by gargamele, So we
don't know if Smurf, we don't know if Smurfet was
like officially.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well later on, but later on? What do you mean
that were girls?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I assume that Papa Smurf and what's her name, Girly
Smurf smurffet. I think that they I assumed that they
fucked and made all the Smurfs.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's not what No, no, no, no, no, No, the
Smurfs existed before Smurfed. Gargamel was trying to infiltrate the
Smurf village, right, and he created Smurfet.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And she used to have black hair and she was
talking like this, and it was like hi, hi everybody.
And when she when she transformed into smurf Fet, it
was because she experienced the love and what it meant
to be a Smurf, and Gargamel no longer had an
ally in this Smurf that he created.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Oh, I never do that, Laura, I missed all that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, it's a pretty interesting episode. Everybody. Everybody was trying
to smash.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Everyone took their shot. Everyone shot their shot.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Manly smur was that his name? Who was the one
with the freaking hammer?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Manly Smurf? What was his name? Handy Smurf. He was
the one that it seemed like was getting it.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I used to collect those little figurines, did you, Donald?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
No? I did not.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
We're of a certain age where the you know, you
would collect the figurines for all the Smurfs.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Look, I loved I loved.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Have to go on eBay and get me some Smurf.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I loved me some Smurfs. Yeah, and I loved the lore,
especially when Johann and Pee Wee joined the fray. But no,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I don't know what any of that means.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
You don't know who Johann and Pee we are and
you not. Yell.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I was over served as migeon last night, and I
need you to bring down your volume.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Okaylus too. I worked out this morning, did you no?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Because I was overserved last night by myself. I barely
drink anymore, so when I have too many glasses of
wine it hurts hashtag forty nine been there hashtag thirty five. Well,
you know when like when you barely, when you stop
drinking for the most part, then your tolerance is nothing.
So then when you have a handful of glasses of wine,

(04:57):
you wake up like, oh, why you know?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I had my annual and this was a time physical. Yeah,
and I was sweating it hard, but the physical came
back so good that I'm like, I think he's lying
to me, babe. There's no way. There's no fucking way.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's called a very neurotic person who gets there deep,
He gets there, gets their physical results, and it's like
he's lying.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
He's definitely lying.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
There's no way would why would he want to lie.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I don't think he's lying, but just that it was
just I was. I was shocked anyway, the conversation, uh was,
what were we just talking about?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
And when you're physical? But we were talking about how
they tie together drinking being overserved, right I was.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I said to him, you know, I think my kidneys
are really you know, they're done because when I drink,
my back hurts. He goes, that's dehydration, dude. I go, no, no, no,
I don't think you understand. When I drink and I
wake up the next morning, like I have a real
back pain, like it's like fucking back pain. He's like, yeah,

(05:58):
that s dehydration. But well, I felt really stupid at
that point because I had diagnosed myself with like you
diagnosed yourself.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
You told me in Vegas, You're like, I got bad kidneys.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I like that. You made me sound like Harrison Ford too,
though I got bad kidneys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
I know. Donald didn't watch it, but Shrinking season two
is live, and not only that, this morning they dropped
the fucking secret knowledge that I already knew. Shrinking season three.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Picked up awesome, this is amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
But show's on fire. It's so good, amazing, wow, So
watch it everybody, It's really good.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was nice to see Christa out and about promoting
her show.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Christ is so good in the show and she's doing
all sorts of good promotion. She walking now too.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I know she's talking shit now to look at us,
all these people talking ship. She was all watched What
Happens Live talking about Yeah, I think there's gonna be
a Scrubs reboot. I'm pretty sure of it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, I said to her. I was being interviewed about
the Garden State charity concert benefit we're doing, and the
reporter goes, what is the deal with the Scrubs reboot?
And I go, The thing is that Bill is promoting
so many things, and each time he gets on a
press line he am, he ratchets it up more. He's
left himself nowhere else to go.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It has to happen now, It kind of has to happen. Now, man,
he talks so much shit, and now christ is jumping
in there and she's talking shit like I'm just saying, man, like, oh,
oh go go.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think everyone who's a Scrubs fan and this is
obviously a Scrubs rewatch podcast should start being confident and
titillated that something's gonna happen. I'm titillated.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm titillated too. I'm gonna tell you that right now.
Yeah I am. I am totally titillated.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I can tell I can tell you are too.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You look good.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I was just listen, man, I was looking at right now.
I was looking at you, and I was like, Yo,
he's talking about how bad he looks.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I don't know you're looking. Listen this riverside has you
come through? Pixelated? I like it better.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I like you pixelated, Joe.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think we need to leave the car.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, Joel, you look good to hold up? Hold up, Daniel,
it could be a foursome. WHOA. I need to get
shout outs real quick, yo, shout out Side Show, Side
Show Collectibles, Andy, Side Show. Oh my god, you came
through big time. Yo. I went and did a tour
at Side Show, and I got to see all of

(08:29):
the secret stuff, things that a lot of you people
out there don't get to see, all you collectors out there,
I saw old stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I was like, let me explain what they not everyone
knows what Side Show collectibles is Donalds. You're speaking group.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Side Show Collectibles is a toy company that started, uh,
I don't know, Maybe I'm going to say thirty years ago,
and it started really small. And what it is is
people who care about the way toys look. So the
face molds and the hands and the clothing, it's all

(09:06):
top notch. And the posings that you can do with
these toys. They don't only have Star Wars, but they
have like they have Marvel, they have DC, they have
monsters like they're doing a spectacular event right now over there.
It's anyway. I got to go and check out all
of their stuff, and you know how huge of a

(09:28):
Star Wars fan I am. And Andy over at Side
Show was saying, you'll come through, come through, and I
would put it off because I knew if I went there,
I'd just be jealous of all of the toys. Let
me tell you something, it's the best museum I've ever
walked into in my life. It had everything. Everything that
I ever wanted to see in a toy version, it
was there. I didn't I can't give a lot of

(09:50):
stuff away because they made me sign an NDA. But
there's so many really cool things coming out from side
show and if you're a toy collector like I am,
get your wallets. Read.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, that's one of your shots. You said you had
multiple shouts, so there are another shout out.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
There is another shout out.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Go ahead. Don't worry, audience, we'll cut all this out.
Go ahead. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Don't give me
that fucking cold stare.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't want to do.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Do you remember when Sarah would when when when we
were shooting scrubs and they'd be like, all right, going
in tighter for a close up on Sarah, And I'd
be like, we'll never use it. Here we go, never
use it, here we go. She she loved that joke.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I want to shout out all of my all of
these collaborators on my stop motion animation stuff. It's really
starting to come along right now.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, that new video you sent? What was that level up?
Something got leveled up that slide? What do you mean
you just sent me in the group chat? You send
a video today and something looked leveled up? What was that?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
What was that? So it's lit? I want to shout
out elder Son.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Oh, someone helps you come and learn to lot he.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Came to the house and he helped me light the set.
I want to shout out, I mean, this is all
a process and I'm now beginning. I'm now beginning filming
something that I had planned to film that I've been
planning the film for a very long time, and I'm
doing it myself with the help of Justin rash Over
at a stunt Puppet Pictures. He's he's my mentor, and

(11:22):
also with Stupid Buddy Studios who have been, like you know,
really supportive of me, and Ardman believe it or not,
who have been really supportive of me. And it's just
really awesome. So I want to shout out the whole
stop motion.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's a lot of shout outs. We're getting so many
shout outs.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm just very appreciative, you know what I mean. Like
you get a physical, you turn fifty, the a lot
of things you can't take it for granted. Now, granted
I paid a lot, a pretty penny for a lot
of it, for all of it, but you know, with
that came a lot of support.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And when are you going to switch over to the
puppets that I bought you and stop using that one?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So Julian Clark, who is making the puppets. He was
almost finished.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, with the mouths you needed. You said you needed
it because I have big lips. You needed special lips.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, I want your kisses to be I do have
a big lip to me, yes, But I think the
audience would like it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
If you made a JD and Turk puppet eagling each other.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean maybe
we'll show up in this project too.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know, when I was building your puppet or ordering
your puppet, I didn't know whether to add the mole
or not. I didn't know how you'd feel if the
puppet should have a mole or not it should. Well,
you're gonna have to add it with.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
A sharpie, because I know because you didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I didn't do it. I sat there and I and
I and I thought. I pontificated, will he want the
mole on the puppet or not?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
For sure?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
So I think you could just take a little thin
sharpie and give it a little duke.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You might be right.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It won't be three D. Joelle, how are you you're
you're you're looking pensive. What's going on in your life?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Oh? I was telling all before you guys got on
I in addition to working many hours on a computer
and phone, my hobby lately has been playing the SIMS.
And the other day you told us many hours at
night without the lights on and I strained my eye
pretty badly.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Injury I do, I do? This is a rare injury. People,
you don't hear about this injury.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Hey, hey, this is you know. There isn't enough attention
paid to SIMS for injuries.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
You need to really put a light on it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I would like to. I would like to do another
charity benefit for people who suffer from SIMS for injuries. Joelle,
did you take my advice? Did you take my advice
and get a hot tub and put in the living room?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I did? It was cool.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I should Actually one day I'll upload some of my builds.
I have entire house that's in a pool essentially, so
like the dining table is set in the pool, and
there's a hot tub in there. I don't know if
it's in the living room.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I guess maybe maybe that's what I'll do today. All
start well, I all I know is the one thing
I remember is that the hot tub really solved a
lot of problems because you get your rest, you get
your bathing, you get your friends coming over.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know who else really appreciated a hot tub? Remember
that show Blind Date. They appreciated a hot tub on
that show Blind Blind. D Roger Lodge hosted it, and
it was about, you know, you'd go on a blind
date with someone and sometimes they you'd get to go
to like a hot tub resort.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh, yeah, was this the one where your friends were
in the van?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Wait, what do you mean, No, your friends aren't. Your
friends aren't watching the date. You're on the date on
your own. I think.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Show back in the day where like your friends were
in the van watching or no, maybe it was the
other people were watching. I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
No, I think I know what you're talking about. It
was like and maybe maybe the day and three of
your friends are in the van like watching it happen.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It was like, Yeah, Room Raiders, Room Rateed.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
I remember that one too, a classic. That was the
disgustingest show ever. The girl, Yeah, that's how I said it.
The girl would get to go into the boys room
with a fucking black light.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh my god, it's so groul.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And that was and that was like the premise of
the show. They'd have a great date and then she'd
be like, now let me check out his room.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
This sense but it's obviously so staged.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I mean like, yeah, no, there was a lot of
winking going on on that show, boy, Like it was
just all over the place. In every episode there was
a it was like, not him.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Too, what do they expect? I mean everyone's doing that.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
What they would have the guy going with the black
light and the girl's room would be nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I want to recommend a movie to everybody. Sorry, can't
change topics off of finding seamen with a black light.
Strange Darling. You guys heard of this movie Strange Darlings
or Darling, let me check Strange Strange Darling. I highly
recommend to you. A friend of mine said, watch this,

(16:15):
and it's incredible. It's very violent, I want to warn
anyone who's averse to that, but really really good screenplay
and interestingly fascinatingly shot by Giovanni Rabisi, who is getting
into cinematography. I knew that Giovanni Robec was getting into cinematography.
I had heard that we have some mutual friends, and

(16:37):
I know him a little bit. But I'm watching this
movie and not only it's so good. It's an indie
and it's very contained, but it's so well acted. I'm
thinking to myself, Wow, this is so well shot. And
then the credits come up and it's like shot by
Giovanna Rabisi. It made me think of me like that.
It made me think of you Donald. How like an
actor takes on an art form it's not the thing
they're known for, and like gets really good at it

(16:58):
and like what you're doing that? And Giovanni, who's like
such an incredible actor, gets so into cinematography that he
shot this fucking incredibly beautiful movie.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
He found a way to make it go pro. Yo,
that's a that's an amazing feat.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Congratulations to him, Man, well done.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, so check out the movie again. It is it
is uh, it's it has humor in it, but it's
very violent and performances. There's this actress frand I got
to look up her name. She was so incredible something, Joel,
will you look it up for me because I don't
want to go deep my phone. Strange Darling the female
lead she I guess someone said she was, but yeah,

(17:38):
Willa Fitzgerald. I personally have never seen her before, but man,
she a fucking incredible actress Reacher. Someone told me she
was on Reacher. I never Yeah, So I was excited
for an actress who who I know works. I don't
mean to say she doesn't work. But I had a
lead in this movie that is like such a difficult
part and she when yeah, no, she did. So we

(18:02):
have an exciting guest. You guys, you know, I was
so fascinated with the show Jerry Duty, like so many
of you. I I remember when I was watching it going,
I have so many questions for this guy. I know
James Marsden a little bit, so he gave me a
little bit of tea. But we have Ronald Gladden, who
was the fella that they did this whole show too.

(18:27):
On the show, Speak and ask him all the questions.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Stories that show we made about a bunch of talks
and nurses.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
He's the stories. So yeaha rab here, yeah here.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yo, Well hello.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Hello, there he is.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
There is high quality. His camera is zach pixel for you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
No, he's pixel free on my end. Ronald, Welcome to
the show. Welcome to the show. I'm obsessed with you.
When I was watching the show, I had so many questions.
When I was watching this show and I know Marsden
a little bit, so I was texting him, but he
was being very cryptic and not giving me all the tea.

(19:27):
And I'm just so glad to finally meet you because
I found the story just so incredibly unique.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Well, thank you guys for having me on here, first
of all, and it's amazing to know that you even
know who I am, Like anytime that I get to
meet and interact with people that I've seen on my
TV since I was a middle schooler and a high schooler.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
And making it sound old, Ronald, you're making it sound old.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I'm saying that you guys are seasoned vets, all right,
and I'm honored to be here. Great to meet you guys.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I just want to say the obvious thing that every
person who saw this in the world thought you were
the kindest, most patient human being ever. And I mean,
was this have you always been? Before we get into
the nitty gritty, because I know Donald and I got
lots of questions, have you always been like this? Would
your friends and family say that like you are a

(20:19):
very patient, kind, generous human being.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
You know, I'm honestly really glad that that's how you
open this up. Because something that I've always tried to
emphasize is that I have always been kind, but I
haven't always been like this, Like I've worked really hard
to become the person that I am today. Like I mean,
in my younger years, if they would have cast for
jury duty when I was twenty three, twenty four to
twenty five, I can guarantee I would not have been chosen.
I was a little bit of an asshole, you know,

(20:45):
like I lived in a much more selfish lifestyle, Like
I didn't think about other people and how my actions
were going to affect them. And so I don't know,
something happened when I turned twenty five and I just
kind of grew up. I mean everything else just felt
like I was living a very childish life. And so
I really worked hard to become the person and that
everybody saw on Jerry Duty. So no, I would say I.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Have not always been like this well done, because I
would have lost my ship. Several times. I would have
been I would have requested, please, I don't this is crazy.
Everything that's I would have been like, this is bizarro world. Yo.
You guys are all nuts. But here's the one thing.
When I saw Kurt Fox, that's the that's where, because

(21:22):
I know I would have been like, hey, wait a second,
I know that guy. Oh, Kurt and I did a
fucking we did a prank show with the same people
who created punk back in the day, and that's how
I met him. And so when I saw him on
the show, I was like, wait a second, you got
a lot of people. Clearly nobody watched the show that

(21:44):
I was on, first of all, right, and I was like,
that guy right there is a professional and he's really
good at freaking pranking people.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah. No, So let's just go back to the very beginning.
How did you how did you how did this come
into your life? I mean, I know I read that
you were looking for some work on Craigslist, like some
part time work.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, So what had happened was I moved to San
Diego in twenty nineteen, and I've been in construction since
I was seventeen, and so I didn't necessarily switch industries,
but I was brand new to the solar world in general,
so I kind of threw myself into that. I was
a contractor, an independent contractor, doing just solar work for years,
and I mean I'm talking twelve fifteen hour days. Like
I was like really grinding trying to make it work.

(22:30):
But I just burnt myself out, essentially, And so one
day I talked to my business partner, we reevaluated kind
of what we wanted to do with our lives. We
shut down shop, and then I was essentially just kind
of looking for the next gig. And so I didn't
have search preferences. I was just looking for just anything
and everything, because, like I said, just was burnt out.
I came across this in my mind, this was a

(22:51):
great way for me to get paid, to have an
experience I'd never had, and then in my free time
I could still job search, not knowing they were going
to take away.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
So what did I say? Sorry to interrupt you, but
what did it say in the in the ad? Because
I mean, was there any question in your mind, like
we are they allowed to make a documentary about a jury?
Like I think I would have I would have said, like,
well that sounds interesting, but like how are you legally
allowed to make a documentary about a jury?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So I definitely had questions like that. But man, the
preparation for this show years literal years in the making,
and so the way that they described it to me
was that this was the judge's last case of his
like thirty eight year trial and that was the only
reason he was allowing them to do it. They had
tried before, they had never gotten access. But this judge
was like, you know what, this is going to be
my swan song if you will.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And so I met you meant career, you said trial
his thirty eight year old career.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Career.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, career, And so that's that's they presented it where
they were going to do a special dock on this
on this judge really more of like.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
The jury process, but it was more of like since
the judge was like, hay as my last hurrah, I'll allow.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
This nice and anybody could be picked for the Like
how did they you know? Any You're all just picked.
We've already got the jury. He's allowed these people to
come in.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Not necessarily, so you did have to go through the
jury selection process. So there were some people that I
was told that were there because they had signed up
for the same thing that I did, and then other
people were just summoned. So that's why everyone's like, I
don't want to be here. How do I get out
of here? Because those were like the people who were summoned.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Man, Now okay, So, as I recall, you get into
the you're in the waiting room and the first and
you recognize Marsden and you really and you're really keeeked out,
and and then then you you you you said something
to him about like, what was the thing that we

(24:39):
said about Sonic? I forgot.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Look, I mean, like I told him, didn't you.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Kind of diss him about Sonic?

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I told him very honestly the reviews that I had heard,
and then it was kind of a shit movie, you.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Know, well for movies later and Jim Carrey and everything.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Look, I did until my foot in my mouth, I
admitted it. I watched it. It was a great movie.
I've seen the other one.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's so funny now, I these people that they cast
were so funny and and and it's all I mean.
I watched the ending episode where they showed how they
did it, so it was all improvised, but they did
have sort of a rough sketch of what was going

(25:31):
to happen by when is that correct?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Essentially, the way that they told me was that they
kind of had like a skeleton script where you had
your main beast that you had to hit, and then
whatever else happened in between, you just got to think
on your.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Feet and okay, so then Marsden, you go in the trout. Marsden.
They have this story point where the popa Rugby are
stalking Marsden and so they're gonna need to sequester the jury. Now,
I can't believe that you guys are down for this.

(26:03):
I mean, I guess, I mean and they and then
in hindsight, they very cleverly said, we're we're gonna separate
you and Marsden because he's Marsden has a special marshal
that's gonna go home with him, and he's so bad
shit crazy. But but that this enabled them to only
have to pay and shoot and put up a couple
people around you, right, correct.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
And I will say that's probably actually the only time
that I got mad was like, because I knew that
it was Marsden's fault and he like they made it
very like nothing that they did was subtle. They made
it very obvious to me that he was going to
call the paparazzi. So I was pissed that he was
the reason that I got taken from my other hotels sequestered,
and he wasn't even gonna stay with us, Like I
was a little bit irritated for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You never wanted out. You never were like just fucking
I'm done. Well.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So the reason, one of the reasons that we did
the daily video diary from myself, I thought everyone else
was doing them too, was so that they could kind
of gauge like my men mental health as well too,
and like where I was at and how I was doing.
And if I'm sitting here on camera saying like, oh
my god, I'm I just want to get out here.
I'm going to walk out of this, like they would
have made adjustments. So it was more to like gauge
how I was doing every day.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, I mean, so they took your phone everything.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I had no access to the outside world. I could
make phone calls if I wanted to that were being
monitored by, you know, a sheriff. It was just part
of the production group.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh my god, what was So anytime you wait and
when anytime you made a call, they told you a
sheriff was on the line, and then they just had
someone production make sure you weren't like, I think this
is fake, right, well, like they.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Were in the room with me. Because they're wearing the
sheriffs get up. You know, it looks like they're the
actual deputy. They've got something in their ears to.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Believe this isn't illegal. I mean, I had this reaction,
and I said this to Marsan. Actually, I was like,
don't you. First of all, it was amazing television, but
what about the scruples of doing this to someone. I mean,
I think it's I enjoyed it, and I'm glad that
you're the kindest person in the world, but I'm kind
of like, this is fucked up to do to somebody.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
What was the name? I'm sorry to cut you off
because I got to ask this really quick.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
You don't want him to answer that you you over
that question?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
No, I'm not. But it's because it's like the same
thing and how Jim Carrey reacted to it. What was
that movie Truman Show?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Truman Show?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Didn't you feel I mean like when watching that, I
felt like I was watching that movie like at some
point in your life, as Zach said, you know, how
did how do you how do you not say you
guys fucking picked on me for fucking, you know, essentially

(28:43):
a whole show and made fun of me for a
whole show.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, they didn't really make fun of him. I mean
he made He's made out to look like the kindest,
coolest person in the world.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
No doubt, but in doing so they you know, I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Let him go.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
No, no, I mean, honestly, both of you guys bring
up great points. And I'm actually really glad that you
brought up the Truman Show too, because the way I
was describing it in the beginning to people was I
got Truman, showed I'm Truman essentially, and then that follow
up question always inevitably comes, well then how did you
handle it? Mentally? And the way that I can separate
this for people is that Jim Carrey and the Truman
Show that was his whole life thirty plus years. This

(29:22):
was three weeks of my life. And so granted that
may seem like, you know, a large amount of time
to do something, but in the grand scheme of things,
it wasn't like a very long period. And I like
to think I have a pretty good sense of humor.
I pranked my siblings, my friends, relatives growing up all
the time, so if anything, this is just karma. So
that's kind of how I viewed it. Plus, it was
a great experience.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
We'll be right back after these fine words. That No,
it also looked like, as I recall, it's been a
minute since I saw it, but it kind of looked
like you were having fun. Like you know, there's times
where I'm sure it was so fun you watching your
facial expressions, but it's it also looked like, you know,

(30:05):
I've almost been selected for jury dude a couple times,
and I'm always like, oh, please don't pick me, Please
don't pick me. But there's a little part of me
that's like, this would be kind of interesting, you know,
And was there a part of you that's like, this
is crazy, but it's kind of interesting, right.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
One thousand percent. Like when I agreed to do this,
though I knew that I was going to be on camera,
it was my first time ever being on camera outside
of you know, home videos we made growing up so
I and plus I live documentaries. So to me, I
was like, this is a great way to have a
new experience. They're gonna pay me some money for it.
And then when I got sequestered, I wasn't happy about it,
but again, it's just like, well, I'm here for an

(30:39):
experience and that's exactly what I'm getting.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, that's how I feel like if I ever got
on a jury. I don't really I'm always afraid because
I almost got put on a murder trial. And I
was like and they were like this forever yeah, And
I was in the room. I remember we went down
to you know, and we live in LA so I
was down in the fucking when you go to the
LA Downtown courthouse there you go through security in the lobby.
But if you get put on I forgot what floor

(31:03):
it is. Uh, let's say it's five, you go through
another round of security, because that's the fucking murder floor.
And I went up there to for for jury selection
for a trial, and I walk in and it's the
fucking OJ room. It's the fucking thing We've seen on
TV a thousand times. It's that room. And I'm like, oh, no,
I can't get put on a murder trial. This is

(31:24):
gonna be no.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
No.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
It was like the room like if you've ever watched
like I mean, we all remember OJ, but if you
have ever watched like, you know this this this room
has been created us in so many sets because it's
like the murder trial room for La County or whatever.
And uh and then they were like, you know, just
the judge is preparing everyone. He's just so you know,

(31:52):
this is a murder first degree trial. This could be
up to, you know, four months of your life. I
was like, oh, well, I got to get out of here,
but they didn't pick me, so I never had to.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Uh you did you purpose?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh my god, what's crazy? Is anyone who's ever gone
for Jerry duty. You won't believe the ship that people
say to try and get out of.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
This duty today.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, so many people, I mean, it just takes so long.
And you're rolling your eyes because you're like, there's so
many people. There's plenty of people obviously who have good excuses.
I have to take care of my children, or I'm
a soul provider, all those legitimate. Sure's lots of people
in LA who don't speak English fluently that they need
to be released because they're not going to be able
to be a proper jurist. But then you get to

(32:41):
the people that are like spewing bullshit and you're like, oh,
come on, they're like, you know, the most common thing
is like I hate cops and I can't judge cops fairly,
and if there's cops testifying, I won't be able to
listen to them, so don't pick me.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's like the police.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, And I'm like, I don't get me wrong. I'm
sure there's people that legit feel that way, but that
was like a very common thing, and I was like, oh,
come on, come.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
On, you get an easy way out.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, it worked every time because the judge would judge
has to be calm, and he's like, so you're saying,
you know, obviously we will be having some detectives and
some policemen testifying. Are you saying jur number five that
you will be unable to, uh, you know, listen to
them and take in their testimony with an open mind.
And people like, hell, no, I hate cops, and they're

(33:35):
like you are dismissed.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Geez oh no, I feel like I feel like I
feel like the person that tries to use that in
the wrong situation is even funnier.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like I know what's funny is there's that sheriff that's
in there, you know, like the bailiff, and he's like staring.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
At everyone, let me take numbers down.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Another one was like Another one was, you know a
lot of people, you know they have the right not
to testify. Another common one and this is just anecdotal
from my experience. Anyone who's been through this, I'm sure
you have crazy stories too. But another one was people
being like they were like the judge were like, now,
the defendant does not have to testify. It is not
he is not obligated to testify. How will you feel

(34:23):
if the defendant does not get on the stand to
tell his or her side of the story.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I want to hear from the defendant.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, A lot of people are like if I only
from the defendant, I think it's bullshit. I think he's
hid and shit, I will not be able to fairly
judge this kid.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Look that it's actually valid, Like the cop thing. Get
a little bit of a stretch, but that's valid. I
would actually stand on and die on.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That hill, like if I mean, I think it's fair
to say as I as I felt. I understand the
legal process. I understand the right not to incriminate yourself,
but yes, if you were accused and you don't testify,
I think I would have trouble being like, well, why
the hell not? If you're interesting, why wouldn't you get
up there and be like I didn't fucking do it? Yep,

(35:04):
but I understand it all.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean, always stripping down.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Look at that, Ronald's Yeah, we should probably segue quickly
to how has this affected your love life? Because you
are a handsome man. The world used you as an
example of being the kindest uh man they've ever seen.
What were the dms? Like, ron what went down on

(35:31):
the dms?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
It was wild? And I will say this too was
I was never on social media very much to begin with.
The Actually, the only reason I even had an Instagram
was for like it was for business related purposes. I
didn't even create an Instagram until I moved to San Diego,
and the only reason I did it was because my
mentor advised it. You know, He's like, look, you can
get a lot of business from social media and blah
blah blah. So having not really been on it at all,

(35:53):
and then the whirlwind that my life became, I'm not
exaggerating when I tell you that there are tens of
thousands of messages that I've never even scene, like, I
have no interest in going back that far and looking
at this point, but like it all happened so fast
and so quickly on average, because I sat down on
Instagram's team, I gained fifty thousand followers permanent for six months.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Wow, fifty thousand followers a month for six months.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
For six months.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Instagram called him into the office Donald, They're.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Bring him in, They said, this is our influencer program.
What're you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah? So are you doing?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
How do you? I saw that you got an Amazon deal?
What the congratulations? That's incredible and and I'm not surprised
because you are so likable and charming and I and
I'm sure that they were like, let's find something for
you to do because people really really responded to you.
And would that be something as an actor? Would it

(36:49):
be hosting a show?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
So I was gonna say, I'm surprised you're gonna becoming
You're not an You're not an actor, man. You were
part of the biggest improvisational experiment, uh in the last
ten years, So what's up?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I know, but I also feel like you could be
a great if you if it wasn't that, I feel
like you'd be a good host of a show or something.
I don't know what's happening. It's a top secret or
can you talk about it?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
No, you guys are right on the money there. So
we're exploring different shows where I'm hosting doing improv. So
I'm really heavily leaning into that. I've auditioned for some
things and I am taking acting classes, but I just
don't think that I'm an actor. I was never passionate
about it then, like I'm not passionate about it now.
Improv is kind of the world I'm really leaning into.
And a lot of the feedback I've gotten from people

(37:32):
in the improv world who watch the show was there,
like you already lived the yes and lifestyle, so why
not lean into it? And I mean, I realize that
that's so true. So if I'm going to be an actor,
it would be an improv actor if anything.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, I mean I would encourg you moved to la
I assume correct. Yeah, I would be taking lots of
improv classes because you're You're in the city where that
has some of the best troops in the in the world,
and I'm just I would lean in and people are
going to love you because they know who you are.
And I mean, weren't all of those cast members improv people.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, so I've actually been doing shows with UCB. My
girlfriend actually just went through the Groundlings program and now
she's taking ucb's program. She just did like a stand
up class. So like, I'm definitely entertaining these avenues and
it's just a matter of finding the right vehicle. We're working.
It's too early to give concrete details because we had
to wait for David Bernad to finish filming White Lotus three.

(38:27):
Now that he's back, we're kind of working on some stuff,
but we're trying to kick it off.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
I think I really I root for you, man. I
feel like I would watch that. By the way, the funniest,
one of the funniest, hardest parts I laughed is the
influencer woman who got on the stage. I just saw her.
Do you remember her donald She talks about how she's
she's she runs social media and she's an influencer, but
she's also a nail tech and she does social media

(38:52):
for her dog, and she had this run. I didn't
I'd never seen her before. I've since seen her in
an improv troupe.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
And Lisa Gilroy thank.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
You Lisa Gilroy. I want to give her a shout out.
She came in and just did one improvised monologue in
the in the in the witness box, and I thought
that was one of the funniest things I saw on
TV the whole year and I had never seen her,
And then since my friend brought me to see a
great improv troop at Largo and she was one of

(39:23):
the gals and she was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
So I was blessed enough to actually be a part
of what.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I should train with her. Yeah, because that's that troop
that she's with. Do you know their name?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I don't know. Does she have the same troop because
I met a few people, I don't know them.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
For me, I want to see if you can find
the name of her troop because it's got some other
celebrities in it. I think Rob Cordrey maybe, but she's
that troop. If you ever get a chance to see
them in LA I know they perform all over they Uh.
It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen,
because I've never really seen too much a list improv troops.
I've been to one who were like, okay, thanks, that

(40:01):
doesn't sound right.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
The one I did with her was Lisa Gilroy and friends.
But that's what I'm saying. I don't know if they
keep the same friends every time. I don't really know
how that works.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, I know this one. Rob Wriggle was in it. Joelle.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
That's a fucking deep troop right there.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Now, I'm telling you. It was like the A List troop.
I mean they had they were doing like Largo Saturday
Night at eight. It was like the key spot.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
There are a couple of troops that are like that. Like, uh,
Philamar's troop is pretty fucking dope too.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
If I could get Donald to do yes, I think
it was called Dinosaur. That sounds right.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
We'll be right back after these fine words. Oh my god, wait,
we have to talk about the soaking thing because this
is the funniest fucking thing. Did you make it to that?
Did you see that part?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Donald? Okay?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So so basically, ron you go by Ronald run Ronald,
Thank you, Ronald, Ronald, Please correct me if I if
I if I get any this wrong. In the in
the Mormon uh world, some people allegedly get around the
fact that they're not supposed to be having premarital sex

(41:18):
by having someone put there. The man put his penis
in the vagina, but they don't move. That doesn't because
they're not having sex. And then they have a friend
jump on the bed, so they're not technically causing the movement.
Is this correct, Ronald?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
You nailed it when it was pitched to me.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
It's called soaking real time.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That was the first time I had heard of it too,
and that's why I was like, I think I'm good
on this one, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
And they ask they asked Ronald if he will facilitate
for them and be the jumper.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Jumper.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah, that's that's what I said in a polite manner,
but that's exactly what I said to No.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I mean, were you at all curious? I mean, I
wouldn't want to be the jumper either, But was there
a part of you that's like, wow.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Are you what would you prefer to be in this situation?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
No, I'm not. I don't want to be.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
He was.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
He was. He was asked to be the jumper, and
I just think it be so I'm sure I would
have said no too, But a part of um been like, Wow,
what a life experience these two Mormon people. Actually only
one is a Mormon, right, only one?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Look, I was I was happy to facilitate everything up
until that.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
That's the only thing you said no to.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I was like, I'm all about helping my buddies
out like whatever. I was like. But to that point,
I was like, I just like you guys could figure
it out from there, you know, like you shouldn't need
a third wheel in the room.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Okay, Mormon to have oral sex before well, Ronald a
specialist in Mormon sex dude Joel, yea, I.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Was going to say, would you be behind the head,
like putting back to Joel?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Can you can you look like, can you google what search?
Can you just ask what I'm gonna imagine I would imagine.
My guess is Mormons are not allowed to have primaro sex.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
And this oral sex? But what about well, can you
look up whether oral sex at this stuff count?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Can you look up if but stuff counts? Please?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
My God, Yeah, these are valid questions because you can
off God.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, I don't want to. I want to get it right.
I don't want to. I want to make sure we know.
And what about butt soaking? Is that permitted.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Category? R?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I P R I p did Joel's Google? All right, wait,
while well does the recon. The other funny thing was
the giant ship that Marten took in your How did
they get a fake ship in there?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
That one was tough. So the way they got that
one in there was because that was when I went
down to wingman initially. That's why I said, up until
the soakine, I was happy to help out. Yeah, I'm
happy to wingman for him. I wanted to see him
get laid. I'm not gonna lie on that one.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
You want, because he was being such a good wing
man up until they asked him just to be the
jumper on the jump on that. But then he goes
back up to his room and can't explain to people
who forgot what happened.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
So when I went.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Down there to wingman for him and then you know,
handed him off, thought everything was finding dandy. I was
down there for a little bit. I go back up
there and James is trying to play it off like
he was just ping the whole time, and so I
walk in there and immediately the smell hits me, Like immediately,
I'm just like, oh god, you want kind of looking
around and he's like yeah, man, He's like, I was
trying to go in there. He's like, but I couldn't really.
There was like, you know, the toilet was like clogged,

(44:43):
and I was like, well, I know it wasn't clogged,
but if so, I opened the door and just yeah,
a massive ship. It's a prop obviously, but it's huge.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Wait, it was smell.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
So what they did was they used like a stink
spray and the reason that it was overwhelming was because
James sprayed a little bit of it and then didn't
smell it. So he's like, well, let me spray some more.
But it was just like a delayed thing and then
it all just hit it once and he's like, oh
my god, this.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Is it really smelled like shit.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
It was more like almost like because I'm from the
country to Oregon market, it almost was like like a manure,
like a farm animal smell that. So I was like,
what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
So then wait, then the plumber comes up right and
the handyman, and James asked you to say it was
your ship.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
He wanted me to take the blame because when he's like,
I don't want like TMZ to get a hold of
this and James and shit.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And and to be fair, the.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Vain character that James was playing that tracks.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
That definitely tracks.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, can't have bad media, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
James was so fucking funny. I mean I loved everything
he did. He made me laugh so much. I mean,
I'm so happy that he said yes to it because
this was such that's a low budget thing on free V.
I mean, like I need no one knew what free
V was, and I just thought that I was so
stoked that James did it because he couldn't have. No

(46:12):
one could have done that a funnier job than he did.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Well. I was just gonna say like that added to
the realism of it too, because in my mind, I
know who James is, and I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I'm like, this is a guy except Personic, dude, except
for Sonic.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
That's true. Yeah, But he's been doing this, you know,
since X Men, like thirty plus years he's been in
the game. So in my mind, I'm like, why would
somebody oh yeah before X but even too. But in
my mind I'm thinking, like, why would somebody who has
such this illustrious career like drag their own name through
the dirt. He knew he was being filmed and he
was acting like a jackass. So I was like, this
has to just be who he is.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Uh, do you want an answer to the oral sex question?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, go back to Heylan.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
It's vague but mostly forbidden before marriage. Church's at Chastity
says that sexual relations are only proper between a legally
married husband and wife. However, some say that and enjoying
sex within marriage is aligned with the face theology.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Right, we need the obvious. You can't you can't be
having sex, so you can't do but sex.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
But so I think the idea behind soaking was that
it was a work around because the participants who do
soaking say, well, we're not having sex, We're just I'm
soaking inside of you. And it's not my fault that
James Marriston is jumping on the bed.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, it's it's like an outside force. Imagine that you're
inside lady. Yeah, and there's earthquak yeah, and it just
it just so happens that there's movement.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah, but what happens when the movement causes.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, well that's an extra problem. Then the person who's
jumping is too good.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Slower jumps, guy blame James, Fuck you, man, you made
me freaking.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I was once having sex, like in back in like
two thousand and were my girlfriend at the time, and
we were having beautiful sex and all, and it was
really getting rigorous and uh, and all of a sudden
we turned to each other and we're like, wait a minute,
and we both stopped. We're like, that's not us. It

(48:11):
was a fucking major earthquake and the whole fucking room
was moving. Damn. Yeah. We both jumped up and looked
outside the window and the pool next door was like
fucking swaying back and forth. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Why did you just ride it out?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I was thinking too.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Well.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I didn't need I didn't need to just soak. I
didn't need God to act as the jumper. We were fine.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I think God would think differently on that situation.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, God was like, y'all are fucking killing it. Let
me help, okay, Ju while you're looking up the other thing,
I wanted to ask you. So in the end, they
give you. I thought that was really sweet the way
they ended it and they give First of all, Alan
Barren hooltz is a was a real judge, correct, and

(49:06):
he's Ike Baron Holts his father. But I thought that
Alan did a fantastic job as someone who's not a
trained actor.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Well, funnily enough, and I'm very glad you brought this up.
What a lot of people don't realize is that he
actually did. Like Alan's career passion was to be an actor,
but once he had a family, because he went to
school for it initially, but once he had a family,
he put his dreams to the side. He got a
stable career, he raised his family, and then when this
opportunity was presented to him, he viewed it as like

(49:36):
a hey, this is a way for me to pursue mya.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Now it reminds me of my father, because my father
always wanted to be an actor and he loved the
theater and he would be became a successful trial attorney,
but he would do community theater as his like, as
his hobby. And uh so, it's funny, it's interesting. It
reminds me. That reminded me of my dad. I thought
he was beautiful and I thought his the end, the
way he talked to you, the thing he said about

(50:00):
you is I found it very moving. And then you
get one hundred thousand. I mean, not only your mind
blown because they revealed to you what happened, but you
get one hundred thousand dollars, which must have been a
nice surprise.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
One thousand percent. And I will say to people kept
repeating that to me on the day of the reveal,
and I just so you know that money, that money's real,
that check's gonna cash, that's that's real. But I was
so caught up in just trying to process like everything
that they were telling me that I, like the money
was the last thing I could focus on. It was
more of like you could just strip my world down
and I need to like build it back up.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, of course you might earn a total shock. I mean,
that's such a mind fuck.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Right right right away, you automatically go into what the
fuck did I say? What the fuck did I say?
What the fuck did I say?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
What did I do? What did I do?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
What did I do? What I do?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
What I do? What it is? Okay?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
A little good? We're good. We're good, We're good, We're good.
A hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Really, I think a lot of the time people responded
to you is just because we look there's so much
negativity in society. We look for kindness and I just
think you represented such kindness. A friend of mine told
me just yesterday, and I didn't know this about her,
but that she has an extreme fear of flying and
she's a really bad flyer. And she told me, I

(51:13):
cannot tell you the amazing stories I've had over the
course of my life where something happens turbulence and I
reach out and I grabbed the hand of a stranger
next to me, And how kind they are, she said.
Invariably they hold my hand and they tell me about
their kids, or they distract me, or they rub my back.

(51:34):
And she said, of all stripes and colors of human beings,
and it just made me feel so warm in my heart.
And I think that's why so many people responded to you,
because even though this was a comedy and it was
a crazy thing, you really just represented such kindness.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Honestly, I'm glad that that's like the message that people
took away from this too, because, you know, having lived
a really like selfish, just kind of like an ass
whole lifestyle when I was younger, like I really do
want to just kind of I want to be the
change that I would like to see in the world.
And so that means leading by example, and so throughout
the course of the show, like I did what I
thought was right the entire time, whether the cameras were

(52:13):
around or not. Like, all I'm trying to do is
just be that change. And if we don't lead by example,
I mean, talk is cheap. We all know that. So truthfully,
all I'm trying to do is just try to live
a lifestyle that's going to just promote helping other people.
You got to give people a chance, you know, like
if you come into it with preconceived notions, you already lose.
Like don't like, for example, the character Todd, I found

(52:33):
out on day two or three that he was a
convicted felon who recently had his rights restored. Not only
did he stay in the same hotel as me, but
he was right across the door for me. He was
the very next room. In the three weeks I spent
with him, I never once asked him what his felony
conviction was for because I didn't care. I gave him
an opportunity. I talked to him. I gave him a
chance just to learn that who he was.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You know, that was incredible. What about when the older
Asian man who teaches your game, and yeah, how much?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
How much?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
And then and how much? How much are you supposed
to He's supposed to uh, he's supposed to give you
got twenty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
It was like, uh, no, I only it was that much.
I think it was only, like I shouldn't say only
because he owned gumball machines, so it's a lot of money.
It was like two grand something like that. But again,
like his story was that he owned like two gumball
machines and like a sticker machine, and so I was like,
this guy's not rolling, right.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
That was so funny. He was like, he teaches them
the game, and it's a real game obviously, right.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah, correct, the rules made up real game.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
It's a real game. But he made up the rules.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
He made up like the gambling rules. Okay, God, he
kind of taught me the real thing, but there was
a lot that was just okay.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
So then you win and he's like, oh my god,
I owe you two thousand dollars and you were like,
I don't want your money. I don't want your money.
He's like, no, it's my pride. I have to give
you the two thousand. Yeah, that guy was great. Is
he an impront guy too?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
He is? Yeah, he came from I believe it was
Second City. Actually, wow.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Do you ever look back and be like, what if
they went different with it?

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Like?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
What if they went if what if I responded different?
How would they have adjusted? Do you ever think about
the possibilities, Like there's a whole multiverse of what could
have happened in just this whole three months.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I think about it all the time, honestly, still to
this day too. And that's why I try to emphasize,
like the preparation that went into this was years in
the making, because not only did they have like their
skeleton script and like here are the beats that we hit,
but it's like here's the beats that we hit, here's
a B and C if he reacts this way, this
way or this way, and then we just try to
just go with it from there.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
What an exciting thing to work on, I mean, from
a production of the One of the things I really
kind of appreciated in the finale was that they showed
you behind the scenes how they pulled it off. I
thought that was really I mean, from someone who's in production.
If you haven't seen Jerry Duty. Obviously, I can't recommend
it more highly.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Uh, and then the finale, seeing that you're you've been
sleeping under a rock. Yeah, I seen one episode.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Even though, by the way, the episodes are so short,
they're twenty minutes long, and I wish that, you know,
I ended up wishing it was more because it's so entertaining.
It would be kind of impossible for them to pull
this off again, don't you think, I.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Mean, especially given the success of the show, I would agree,
maybe give it some time and once it dies down.
I mean, it was such a successful like, how do
you not try it again?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I know, but I think maybe you can't do jury.
You could do like an office. You could do like
an office, like you've just been hired at a new job, right.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Like an intern or I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I'm sure there's a workaround, but again, like they probably
really get away with it with an office. And you say,
we're gonna it's the number one show in the world
right now, right, that's probably the way to go.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Yeah, I think if you did, like, hey, you're the
new hire, and it couldn't be doesn't have to be
an office like the show the Office. It could be like,
you know, a tire company, or it could be a
fucking grocery store. I don't know. There's got to be
another way in. But I really really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I mean, I'm sure there is, but I mean, like,
I never would have thought they could have pulled off
in the first place, So I'm probably the wrong person
to ask for a sequel.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Well, the.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Thing I love the thing I love about the stories.
It's one of those examples like no, no disrespect to FREEV,
but I had never heard of FREEV. So think how
many fucking streamers and people passed on this show for
it it to end up on free V and then
it becomes one of the most viral shows of the year,
and it's all anyone's talking about. And I just always
think that's a I love when that happens. It's like

(56:36):
no one knows anything, no one knows what's gonna work,
and and everyone had to have passed on this for
it to be on FREEV and then it's all anyone's
talking about.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I got to give a huge shout out to Lauren Anderson.
She is the one who finally picked it up because,
like you said, David bernead told me. They shopped it
all around town and everybody passed on it, and Lauren
Anderson saw the vision, She's like, I'm willing to take
a risk on this, so huge shout out to her
if we're even giving the show a chance.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It was well done, dude, Thank you so much. I
you have a fan in me. Whatever you end up doing, well,
please keep being you. Don't let this town fuck you
up because you're a good soul. And whatever you end
up doing in any capacity, whether it's improv or hosting
the show, whatever, I'll be there watching you.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Thank you, and honestly, you bro guys, I'm huge fans
of you. Seriously, Like I don't want to date you
or anything, but like seriously, like the fact that I
watched you guys in high school on my TV and
I'm here right now, like this is it's sucking a
dream come true. It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
You know, Zach, you said he was a nice guy.
You said it, and then you have to stop.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
You have to stop.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
You have to stop having a a a sad when
people say they watched us in high school.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
I'm fifty, Zach, stretch you wear well man action boogie
that don't.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Don't pull something down, man, just gonna kind of I
kind of did, I kind of.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
He's bending over all, right, Thanks brother, great to have you.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Can I ask Ronald the question before you guys, have
you been called for real jury duty since you've been
on the show?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So? Funnily enough, two weeks after the finale premiered, I
got my first one. I got three in total, but
because I was doing the press store when I was
in New York, I was in Austin, We're at the
ATX Festival, I was constantly had to postpone it. And
then I moved to La Thank god. Have not gotten
one since I moved up here, but three times in
San Diego County after it aired well.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
When you get on a jury, finally make sure to
say that you think that the defendant must testify and.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
You hate cops police man.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
That's actually wild though, it's it's I believe.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
That's so common. Anyone who's anyone who's been on a jury,
or anyone who's been through through what are they called
what danne, you know something like that, that's the term
for jury selections, knows that there are a whole lot
of people that come up with some pretty crazy excuses.
And also we should say, what's your Instagram so people
can follow you?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Oh, it's a Sonny G Underscore s D.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
What hell so?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Because my last name is Glad horrible love, I've told you.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I'm Oh, maybe I didn't take as this, but I
do not like l A. I moved to San Diego
and I had to move up here because of the show.
Like l A is not for me.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
L A is not for most people. Dude, you don't
have to live here.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I made the Instagram when I lived in San Diego.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
You know, I know, but I just want people to
find you, find you, And it's kind of tricky.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Semi G speller for Sonny G, like you know Sunny D,
but Sonny G so s u n n y G underscore.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
S D underscore s D. Good the luck finding that.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
That's like Diego.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
That's why that sounds like Donald Eason because he was
so high he missed type. He's so stone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
It wasn't high. I was drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Oh sorry, he was so drunk when creating his Instagram
handle that he mistyped the F and put an underscore
so he's Donald's underscore Ason. I was like, I feel
like that's something you could have rectified in the in
these years.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Once, once it's done, it's done, dude, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Literally told me that too. They're like, you should probably change.
I said, I'm not touching.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
That's good for you. You want to talk about fame
the young he's been corrupt. I'm just kidding. What a
freaking nice young.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I love that guy. I want to be his friend.
I want to hang out with him. Man, he's so nice. Wow,
he's so nice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I would not be nice after that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I love that he's so nice. I love that he's
so I love that he's so nice. He's like, I
get the funk out of La.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
This is just not for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I'll be in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You think he's in the clubs and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I saw him ountain about one night at samacinthe bungalows.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
He was out. Oh really, oh shit, okay he was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I was like, okay, Ronald, okay, Ronald, okay, Ronald okay.
But he was wearing those shorts. You know those shorts
we all used to wear. They kind of go down
to your shins.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Okay, Capris.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
They weren't capris, but they were like long jams. They
were kind of like gems.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
You know, you all if you know what the fuck
I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah, you got Only only older people know what jams are. Donald, dude,
remember when jams You had to had the right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Jams if your jams wasn't jamming.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I feel bad that so much of our audience doesn't
know what jams are. They were, they were. They were
a brand of short when we how old were you, Donald,
like in our teens.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
In the early teens too, twelve thirteen, it was such
a crazy yes, iconic nineties shorts. I didn't know they
were all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
You had to have the jams. You had to have
the jams, just like if you were what year you
had to have the Do you remember Cavalricci's You remember
your boat?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Do you remember Cavalricci's for real?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I don't remember. I remember your boat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Calval Ricci's were a kind of pant that if you
were in North Jersey, and especially if you were Italian
in North Jersey, you were wearing caval Ricci's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Listen to Beau was from and you were wearing Can.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I remember drunk Carnoir?

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
You were.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
You went dollason yourself and drunk carnoir.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yeah, or cool water cologne. What a show. What a
great guy, good dude. I don't know, man, I don't
think I would have been able to take it. But
that's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Yeah, well that's that you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I hate confrontation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Yeah, but he handled it with such great If you
haven't watched it, I really recommend it. It's so it's
so special. I don't really think they can recreate it.
I don't see how you could could do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Well, they didn't think they could do Tiger King again.
But here comes chimp, Sasha.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Baron Gold done fucking alig and right and right. But
Sasha Baron Cohen was disguising himself. I guess. I guess
that's kind of analogous. I don't know. Well, they couldn't
do Jury Duty. They couldn't. They would do a different premise,
they could do a different premise.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
But look, there are there are people out there who
haven't seen the show Jury Duty, and they can't do it.
Let's keep it one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
There are I miss allergy. I'm so sad that Alergie.
You can't do his thing anymore. Those old episodes are
so funny. The Alig Show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Did you like Borette?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I loved it all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Did you like Bruno?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
I loved but the Allergy The O g Ali g
Show where he would do all three characters, that was
I missed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Thatsha you heard it here straight from buzz light near himself.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Yeah, him sitting I remember when he was Bruno. He's like,
he was interviewing some like mega anti gay guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
And he's like, so karate guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
He goes, no, no, no, this is a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
This guy was just like a very anti gay Christian
right wing person of some sort, and he was like
and Bruno sits down and he goes he goes, so,
how long have you been straight? And the guy's like,
I've never been a homosexual? Are you kidding me? I'm straight?
And he goes, so you're telling me if Freddie Prince

(01:04:43):
Junior walked in here on all fours, he wouldn't want
to take a walk on the brown sid.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Every time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
All right, I love you guys, thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 6 (01:05:12):
Five six stories that show we made about a bunch
of talks and nurses and the janitor who know me?

Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
I said, here's the stories.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Nephwll s no

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
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