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February 15, 2025 • 58 mins

Ryan Wormeli, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Scott Bogman provide their expert analysis on the top dynasty running backs for 2025. Hear their expert analysis on the top RB prospects and trade targets. Our hosts debate if Ashton Jeanty should crack the top 3, analyze if Breece Hall has already peaked, and question whether Bucky Irving offers too much risk to be a top-10 back. Tune in to gain insight on Kyren Williams, James Cook, Jonathan Taylor and others to help build your championship team. 

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Intro - 0:00:00
Pristine Auction Giveaway - 0:02:55 
Does Ashton Jeanty Already Belong in The Top 3? - 0:04:30
Breece Hall, RB7, Have We Seen His Peak Value? - 0:08:40
Jonathan Taylor, RB6, Is He a Value? - 0:10:57
Is Bucky Irving Risky in the Top-10 RB? - 0:13:40
Kyren Williams, James Cook or Kenneth Walker? - 0:16:33
Reality Sports Online - 0:18:27
RB11-20 Overview, Veterans Including Derrick Henry & Josh Jacobs - 0:19:26
Chase Brown, RB14, Should He Be Higher? - 0:24:28
Tyrone Tracy vs. Chuba Hubbard, Who Would You Prefer? - 0:26:12
FantasyPros Discord - 0:30:20
RB21-30, Should Omarion Hampton Be Higher? - 0:30:45
TreVeyon Henderson RB28, Electric Upside - 0:36:20
Veteran Values In The RB21-30 Range - 0:38:54
Isiah Pacheco Is an Intriguing Buy-Low - 0:40:16
Travis Etienne Is Just a Guy - 0:42:11
RB31-40 - Where Is The Value? - 0:44:10
Is Trey Benson Worth Trading For? - 0:45:50
Which Committee RB Can Separate? - 0:50:05
Which RBs Outside the Top 40 Are Intriguing? - 0:53:44

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast.
My name is Ryan Warmly. I am joined today by
Pat fitz Morris and by Scott Bogman. As you might
be able to tell from my voice, I just spent
the week partying with my Fantasy Pros coworkers fits. How
are you recovering from our week in Vegas?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Doing well? Like? I managed to keep it rained in
pretty well. But it was great catching up with you, Worm,
and with so many of our co workers, guys on
the dev team and some of the other teams who
I don't get to talk to on the regular like
I get to talk to you. And one of the
highlights for me, I mean, we got to see the
sphere that was really cool. But more impressive than the sphere,

(00:41):
Worm was watching you nearly eat your body weight in
crab legs at a buffet in Las Vegas. It was
truly an impressive feed. It reminded me of the early
Simpsons episode where Homer is forcibly removed from it All
you can eat seafood buffet kind of harkened back to
that for me.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
By the way, I've already been told about this story,
and I was not there. I have already heard this
from secondhand accounting from our boy, the Welsh.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He was like, listen, if you I was sitting I
was sitting next to Welsh and he was his jaw
was on the floor. If you are going to offer
me unlimited all you can eat steamed crab legs, I
am going to lose your business money.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm gonna do Marilynd proud, folks, I mean, what do
you expect.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
There was no Old Bay, which was a huge disappointment,
I will admit, but the crabs are good none.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
It was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Everybody kept it was a really nice buffet and everybody
kept going back up to get pizza or get you know,
they had really nice meats or you know, takas. And
I was like, I went up three times and every
time just loaded up the plate with crabs and shrimp, Like,
why I'm not here for anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Listen if I if I were there, and hopefully next
year I'll be there, you and I are going to
be toasting with crab legs. I'm all about that too, worm,
so uh it would be happy to join you in
this fight against it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was absolutely spectacular by the way, shouts out to
one of our data scientists, Mark, it was his first
day with the company. At that same dinner, he completely
shocked everyone by doing a backflip in front of us.
I don't think I've ever heard our company crew like
cheer and yell and scream and react as loudly as
they did to seeing that happen. So shouts to Mark

(02:19):
for making a great impression on his first day. Bogman,
are you are you a Vegas guy? It was my
first time there.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm a Vegas guy, but I can't be in Vegas
for longer than three days, so that's kind of like
I definitely have a line where it will pull me under.
So yeah, three days and then I'm out. So I've
only gone a couple times so because of that, so
you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It was very fun. I'm definitely struggling here in the
back half of the week from those three days in Vegas.
A lot of late night It's a lot of super
fun times catching up with all the coworkers. Today we
are talking top forty Dynasty running back rankings. All of
our twenty twenty five consensus rankings and tiers can be
found at fantasypros dot com. Slash rankings. From there, you
can so navigate to any of our dynasty rankings as well.

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new episodes are up and to claim your prize. All right, guys,
we're going to go through. Like I said, the top
forty dynasty running back rankings always a really interesting conversation
when it comes to dynasty because running backs are so

(03:47):
important in the short term and they are so largely
devalued in the long term by a lot of kind
of current dynasty strategies. It's typically the final piece you
want to add, the shelf life is just so short.
The injuries are irrelevant, So it's always to me when
I sit down, Like the quarterback conversation is fun because
they're the big names. Wide receiver conversation is fun because

(04:08):
they're the backbone of your team tight ends or whatever
in dynasty, But running backs is the one where I'm
most fascinated to see kind of what direction this goes.
We'll run through kind of the guys at the top,
and I will say we're going off of our Fantasy
Pro's ECR rankings, which, as I mentioned, you can find
on the site, these tend to at this stage in
the off season be a little delayed in catching up

(04:29):
to the rookie rankings, so you might notice those guys
are a bit lower. We're going to talk about where
we as a show, Fits and Bogman have those running
backs Amaron Hampton, Ash and genty. Of course, they're going
to be higher for us than they are largely in
the expert consensus ranking, so we'll touch on that when
we get to those. But as we have it here
on ECR, at the very top, it's b John Robinson one,
Jamior Gibbs to Sae Quon Barkley a bit older than

(04:50):
those guys, but obviously coming off in same year, is
at three right off the bat, Bogman, is there anybody
that should be in the top three that isn't?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I don't think so. So I think that's a good
top three. If you want to throw Ashton Janet in
the conversation with those guys, I am fine with that.
I think you know, the next couple guys right below
could get into that conversation. But I think those top
three are.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Correct, same feeling fits or would you have thrown another
name in there?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, I have Genty at three. He is twenty one,
and he is pretty close to being on a par
with Sequon Barkley and Jean Robinson as a running back prospect.
I know some people might order those three different ways,
and some might have Genty at the bottom of the pile,
but like, he is close to those guys in terms
of how good a prospect he is, and now he's younger,

(05:42):
so I don't think there's any question he should be
ahead of Saquon, who is going to be going into
his what age twenty eight season, just turned twenty eight
on the Super Bowl, and you know he's great, but
he's an older running back coming off the season in
which he had four hundred and eighty two touches if
you include playoff games. But yeah, obviously he's terrific, and

(06:05):
the situation in Philadelphia is just so good with that
great offensive line and a very good quarterback who's a
running threat himself. But like, I don't think Saequan should
be top three. I think genty should be top three.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, I now just say so, we're not like dancing
around like gent is currently eleventh in ECR. Again, that
is going to change. That is just a reflection of
how early we are in the offseason as we get
further through this draft process and closer to April, and
these dynasty ranks are updated, which they are constantly updated
all year long, so please, you know, go back and
check on them, you know, throughout the draft season and

(06:37):
that process. But that's not reflective of how we feel.
That's I don't think reflective of how most people feel.
I think that's just a delayed ranking there. So I
think it's good to talk about him now, even though
you know, technically doesn't show up on these rankings until eleven.
And I firmly agree like Bijon and Gibbs, I'm willing
to listen to an argument for either order on those two.
Like I agree with you guys that it's Bijon one

(06:58):
and Gibbs too. If you want to make the case
for Gibbs, I would listen to it. And I think
Genty is an easy three. Like I don't even question
it now, Bogman, you are a little lower on Genty
than Fits and I. You still have him in the
top six, so it's not like, yeah, you know, closer
to ECR, but but to me it's he's three.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I will probably have him at four or three. I
don't you know. I And we can do this a
bunch of different ways, but contextually, I'm a more of
a win now guy than Fits is. So Saquon coming
off the year that he had can help you win
a championship today, and I think Ashon Genty probably can

(07:35):
as well. But landing spot is so much context for
these guys and we just don't know it yet. So
that's that makes this exercise even a little more difficult
at this point in the season. Like you said, not
a lot of people dropping their rankings, and because they
want to see where a lot of this awesome rookie
running back class is going to land. But Fits and

(07:56):
I are high on the class, you know, versus ECO
on pretty much every single prospect. So context is going
to mean a lot for these guys, because if Genti
slips and goes to somewhere where there's already a pretty
good running back, then, you know, like Gibbs, maybe a
season and a half until he really gets rolling right.

(08:17):
But if he goes to Dallas where all they have
is Rico Dawdle, then wheels up. He's top three, Top
four for sure. So there's just a lot of context
that matters when it comes to where these guys end up.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Fourth in ecr's Breis Hall, He's followed by Devon h Chan,
Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irvin coming off his great rookie season,
Kyrien Williams, James Cook, Kenneth Walker rounds out the top ten.
You guys are both lower on Breese Hall thancr ec
As and fourth. You guys both have him seventh. Fits.
Do you think that there's a world where Bristol bounces
back into not just that top four, but like into

(08:53):
that top three. Conversation after a strong season, or do
you think that that ship has kind of sailed to him?
As an RB one and kynesty type of asset.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
He is a hard one to get our heads around.
I think there's still a lot to like here with
Bryce Holly's twenty three. His pass catching ability is tops
among his attributes fifty seven catches last season, and he
led all running backs in routes run by a mile.
But he just I guess he doesn't seem as foolproof anymore.

(09:25):
He had that ACL tear as a rookie in twenty
twenty two, and he had some knee issues this year.
So over thirteen hundred scrimmage yards, I think he was
fourteenth among running backs in that category eight touchdowns. The
Jets offensive line kind of hurt him early in the season.
It was really bad over the first month or so,
though it did get better. Like Hall's explosive run rate

(09:46):
was way down this year, and maybe that's a little
bit of a cause for concern. He just did not
look like the same sort of electric guy he looked like,
you know, kind of at the tail end of last year.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
What do you think, Bodwin, what went into your thought
process for putting him at Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think it's a lot of different things. It's the
fact that he had the down year, he was injured,
right and I think the main thing for me is
what is this new offense with the Jets going to
look like? Who's going to be the quarterback? You know,
we have a new offensive coordinator, Tanner Engstrond, who was
the passing game coordinator with Detroit. They use two backs.

(10:21):
They have Braylan Allen, they have Isaiah Davis. These are
good running backs, you know, behind Brisall. I think Breeshall
has the skill, as you said, to make himself be
back in this conversation of the top four or five
running backs for sure. I just think there's a lot
of unknown going into what this offense is going to
look like. Obviously they're parting ways with Aaron Rodgers. Who's

(10:43):
the quarterback? You know, we have no idea who that's
going to be at this point. So there's just a
lot swirling around Breshall right now, still a top ten
back no matter what way you cut it. I just
couldn't put him that high at number four.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
The guy in this group of names that you guys
are most disagreeing on is Jonathan Taylor. He's sixth in ECR. Bogman,
you're one higher at five and fits your a few
spots lower than ECR at RB nine. So Bogman, why
are you higher than the Badger fan I got?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I mean, Fitz, he should be ashamed, really, I mean,
that's really what's happening here. Look, I know JT has
had some injury stuff, but Anthony Richardson, I just don't
know what kind of leap he's going to take.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
You have to keep giving the rock to Jonathan Taylor
as much as he can handle it. I think this year,
at least to start the year. So I just think
the touches are gonna still be there for him. There's
no one threatening his job. The offensive line is good,
and if they can get this offense clicking and humming,
JT can score so many touchdowns. Maybe Richardson will take
them away at the goal line. All you know, Jalen

(11:51):
hurts and all of that, But he's been heard a
decent amount. I don't know how much you want him
running at the goal line. So I just think Jonathan
Taylor is still extremely explosive. He's still a high volume guy,
and he's the biggest piece in this offense because right now,
I don't know if you can walk. If Anthony Richardson
Dutt makes no improvements, you're gonna have to go with

(12:15):
someone that can pass the ball downfield a little bit
and Benchin. So JT is the lead. He will be
getting the ball first and most in this offense and
little injury prone. I understand that he's had a couple
of the ankle things.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think that's probably why Fitz doesn't like him as
much as I do. But still the skill is there,
and he came back and looked good at the end
of the year, so I'm all over JT.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Still, Fitz, why do you hate Jonathan Taylor? And how
much higher would you have ranked for you if you
went to Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh God, what a low blow. Jonathan Taylor is fantastic
when healthy, and we saw that down the stretch in
twenty twenty four and in redraft when there are those
numbers that come out of players in their percentages, how
often they appeared on championship rosters, like Jonathan Taylor was
way up there because even though he wasn't always around

(13:09):
for people in the fantasy regular season in twenty twenty four,
if you got to the playoffs with Jonathan Taylor on
your roster, he was one of the guys who might
have helped propel you to a championship. He was just
that dominant down the stretch, and that is the selling
point with him. The downside is that he's missed sixteen
games over the last three seasons and it's gotten to

(13:31):
the point where you know, we maybe have to be
talking about his ankle issues as a chronic thing. That's
the concern.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Any concerns Bogman about Bucky Irving being not like a
one hit wonder, but like just we've only seen him
do it once. Obviously, he didn't have that draft pedigree
going into last season. Is there any concern in the
back of your mind that it was an excellent year,
but we might see kind of the other shoe dropped
this year, or like we saw it for a full year.
He was awesome enough that we're just buying in.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, I think I'm in, and I do think that
there with Bucky, he's not a guy. If I'm tiering,
I would put my top tier probably the top three.
Then it'd probably be the next three for me. Then
Breese and Kyron by themselves, and then I have Bucky
and James Cook and Kenneth Walker and Brown and Jacob's

(14:20):
kind of all in a tier for me, So he
would start the next tier because I don't think he's
ever gonna be twenty five touches a game every single game. Guy,
he'll get twenty five touches in a game, but I
don't think that that is what you want from him.
So I think you still need Rashad White, or you
need another back that's a little bit bigger to handle those,
you know, short yardage carries and stuff like that. He's

(14:42):
not built to be in every single down back, but
he's so good with the ball in his hands. That's
what he doesn't need that many touches, you know. I
think James Cook kind of built similar, you know, doesn't
need to be the twenty five touchky, but you put
the ball in his hands because of what he does
when he has it. So I don't I think his

(15:03):
ceiling is limited, more limited than the guys above him.
But I still am very high on Bucky Irving. And
I'm speaking of shamed. I'm a shamed that I let
them combine lower me on my original opinions on Bucky Irving.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Fits a little more belief in Bucky Irving. You've got
him RB six. By the way, we've got in the
show she Bogwin put together. It's got the date of
birth for these guys. Bucky Irving shares a birthday with
me exactly ten years.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Later, which is Jackade.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah it's dressing. Yeah, yeah, that's brutal. Fits. But you
have him every.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Six seeing his believing. Bucky was just phenomenal his rookie year.
He finished with eleven hundred and twenty two rushing yards
and eight touchdowns, and he only averaged nine point two
carries a game over the buccaneers first nine regular season games,
five point four yards per carry, a fifty five point
one success rate according to I think Pro Football Reference,

(15:55):
just a phenomenal number for running back forty seven catches.
Rashad White actually had his best season as a runner
by far, but by the end of the season, the
Bucks had basically benched him, like Bucky is just that good.
He is a special talent. And yeah, I mean even
if the Bucks added someone like even if they added

(16:15):
a third running back on Day three of the draft,
it wouldn't deter me at all from wanting to acquire
Bucky Irving. And I don't have any Bucky Irving in
Dynasty because, like Bogman, I let that slow forty time
at the combine last year discouraged me and it was
a huge mistake, one I've now made twice, first with
Kyron Williams, then with Bucky Irving.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Bogman, he just mentioned Kyen Williams. The last kind of
thoughts on this top ten that I want to hit
on is just I feel like Kien Williams, James Cook,
and Kenneth Walker are all very similar, not stylistically, they're
all ranked in a similar range as kind of a
low end RB one in Dynasty. They're all similar ages.
They're all born in either ninety nine or two thousand.
They've all been really productive at times, some more than others,

(16:59):
but they've all had you know, moments and prolonged periods
of real productivity. But they all have had various question marks,
you know, again, different ones for each, but they all
kind of fit in that same bucket. To me, how
do you go about evaluating which one you wanted to
have at the top of that group? Again, talking about
Kaien Williams, James Cook and Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah. For me, it's you know, the the inventiveness of
and just the trust that I have in Sean McVay
and that offense to score regardless of you know, you know,
maybe some missing pieces. So I have Kyroen at the
tippy top. I also think that the best backup for
those guys is Sharbonay by a decent margin. So I

(17:37):
love Ken Walker, He's probably my favorite out of all
of those guys, but I have him ranked third because
I think not only as he had the injury issues,
but he has a legit backup that could take his
job if he doesn't look the same after coming back
from an injury, if he looks slow or whatever. And
I also think that just how with how productive Scharbonay

(17:57):
was in the back end, they're going to give him
a little bit more so. James Cook, as you mentioned
as well, has a very good backup in Ray Davis
as well, a guy that could take pieces of his job.
So they all have that, they all have questions, You're right,
My answer to that would be who is going off
as the cheapest, Who's ADP is lowest on whatever site

(18:18):
you're playing in. That's the guy I'm targeting, so I
can skip the other two guys and maybe wait for
that last guy to fall. So my answer would be,
they're all in the same bucket, give me the guy
that slips between them.

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of ten here, eleven through twenty. Ash and Gent we

(19:33):
already talked about will be higher as we get close
to the draft season. He's followed by Josh Jacobs, Derek Henry,
Chase Brown, Christian McCaffrey, Joe Mixon, Schuba Hubbard, David Montgomery,
Tyrone Tracy, and Alvin Kamara. This is the grouping of
the veterans, the guys who are older, and therefore how
much you are interested in them is going to be

(19:54):
really dependent on if your win now or not. I
think the prime example of that is the oldest guy here,
Derrick Henry. He's RB fourteen. Well, he's RB thirteen an
ec are you guys each have him rby fourteen? But
the truth of the matter is he's not RB fourteen
for anybody. If you're a win now team, he should
be valued higher than this. And if you are not
a win now team, you shouldn't have him on your team.

(20:15):
He should not be on your roster at all, So
RB fourteen is kind of a placeholder in that regard fits.
How do you and you can It could be Derek Henry,
could be Christian McCaffrey. It can be you know, Joe
Mixon was born in ninety six. It could be Alvin
Kamara born ninety five. Any of these guys who are
veterans and older for the position that are in this grouping,
how do you go about deciding where to put them

(20:37):
in an overall dynasty ranking despite the fact that their
real value is so contextual.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, you definitely have to put weight on what they
can do for you in the here and now. But
you framed it really well. Worm. You should not have
any of these guys on your team if you are
in rebuild mode. And you could even probably make the
case about Josh Jacobs, who just turned I think twenty
seven or maybe he's going to be going into his
eight Yeah, he just turned twenty seven. Basically, if you're

(21:02):
in rebuild mode, you should not have any running backs
who are twenty seven or older. Derek Henry could obviously
have another monster year and be tremendously valuable to a
contending team, but he just turned thirty one, and he
is at the point where even the great running backs
are at high risk of tumbling over the age cliff.
And I know a lot of people think, and maybe

(21:22):
correctly so, that Derek Henry is just a different species
of human being and it's going to be more impervious
to the tests of father time than other running backs.
But at age thirty one, he's kind of redlining it
as far as age and performance, and maybe we get
the performance dipped this year. So again, if you are

(21:44):
in rebuild mode or transitioning into rebuild mode, and Derek
Henry is on your roster, you need to seek out
a deal with a win Now team.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Same kind of thought process for you, bagman.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, I think you make a great point where it
is so contextual, you know, and there's a lot of
textual stuff going on with the running back position because
the shelf life is so short and the falloff is
way more rapid than in other positions. It's like, Okay,
this guy looks slow for four weeks in a row,
and now somebody has this job. It's really fast. So

(22:17):
but a guy like Derrick Henry is a freak of nature.
We talked about that all year last year, and I said,
you know, I don't like this addition to Baltimore because
I love it. It worked, it was awesome, killed the Steelers
in the playoffs. I have bigger questions about, you know,
new coaching staff in New Orleans. What is Alvin Kamara's
future there?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Right?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Are they going to stick with them and roll with
them until the wheels fall off? Are they going to
try to move him because he's a piece and you
know they have the cap issue and all that. I
don't believe a word that comes out of Kyle Shanahan's
mouth about Christian McCaffrey. I just can't. So you know,
I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe I'll move
him up in camp, but right now he has to
be at fifteen for me. So yeah, you know, with

(22:59):
the vet, it's all about where you're standing. And kind
of like quarterbacks, you know, a crappy quarterback on a
team with four is worth way less than a guy
that only has one in a superplex league. That guy
needs that quarterback. So context matters so much for these guys.
But these are dudes that can still win you leagues
right now, even though they're old. They can also be

(23:21):
worth nothing at the end of the season. So you know,
the Guia team drops real fast on these older guys.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
To the point about age. Eight of the top eleven
guys in ECR at running back were born in the
two thousands, not in the nineties. One of the next
fifteen was born in the two thousands. Everybody else is
born in the nineties. Like, this is where you're a
good player. You've been productive, you've won people championships in
the past, but you have to be youthful at this

(23:51):
position to be ranked really high. The only player who
is not in the top ten, who is in the
top thirty though, so in that eleven to thirty range,
who was not a rookie born in the two thousands
is Chase Brown. Literally, everybody else is either a rookie
who we haven't seen it yet or was born in
the nineties in that stretch from eleven to thirty. So

(24:12):
Chase Brown is an outlier here. Fits He's somebody you've
been high on previously. You have him actually inside the
top ten for you. He's not in this eleven to
thirty range in your personal rankings, but he stands out
in terms of the age. And we just saw him,
particularly after Zack Moss went down, have a superb, superb season.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, and I can understand the trepidation that some rankers
might have about not wanting to put Chase Brown in
the top ten because it's unclear whether Cincinnati is going
to add anything at running back. It's possible they could
add someone as early as Day two in the draft.
But Chase Brown did show he can be a workhorse.

(24:51):
After Zach Moss got hurt in Week eight, Chase Brown
averaged twenty three point seven touches per game and one
hundred and sixteen point three yards from scrimmage per game.
The rest of the way, like his snapchare was eighty
percent or higher in every game he played after Zach
Moss went out. So Chase Brown was fantastic. But will
the Bengals add another running back in free agency or

(25:12):
the draft? I think that's what everyone is waiting to
find out. Bob.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
When you're a little lower on Brown than fitz Is,
but you are still higher than ECR, You've got him
inside your top twelve, so he's in RB one for
you in Dynasy.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean, the end of the year was incredible,
especially with the unbelievably slow start. I mean people were
cutting him four weeks five weeks in because he just
wasn't getting the ball at all. For him to then
explode in the second half and take off and really
show that he's a workhorse type of back, I think
was huge. And remember two FITs' point in, you know,

(25:43):
are they going to add somebody they traded for Khalil
Herbert last year and then I think they gave him
the ball four times or something because Chase Brown was
so good. So I just don't think it's going to
be very high on the priority list. I think they're
going to add a day three guy to back him up.
And with this clous you can very much afford to
wait and take a pretty good back in day three.

(26:05):
So I think it's going to be wheels up for him.
I think he's gonna get a ton of touches this year,
and maybe moving forward.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
A couple of nice surprises in this range from this
last year. Chuba Hubbard at again RB seventeen in ECR.
Tyrone Tracy he's at RB nineteen in ECR, but they
were both born in nineteen ninety nine. I was meuse
they're turning twenty six this year, so they are already
getting close. I mean Tracy, especially just as a rookie
already one year in year two, he's going to be

(26:33):
turning twenty six. That's one of the reasons why he's
ranked where he is despite having a very strong rookie
season and Chewba Hubbard he'll turn twenty six in June.
But now, obviously Jonathan Brook's not a short term possibly
not a long term factor in Carolina, So there's a
lot of runway there for him in an offense that
looked better certainly as the year went on. Between Hubbard

(26:53):
and Tracy Bogwin, who would you rather have in your
dynasty roster?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, that's tough because I have right now. I have
Tracy at seventeen. I have Cuba at twenty, and I
think the thing for me is and Cuba had such
a great year, And you're absolutely right where I'm like,
Jonathan Brooks goes from a guy that could have been
a top twenty back if he could finished out the
year to another knee injury. Is even going to be

(27:18):
the same type of player when he comes back. We
just have no idea. So, like you said, a lot
of runway for Cuba to makes may here. But I
know you mentioned the age about Tyrone Tracy, but remember
this guy didn't have He hasn't been carrying the rock
his running back for a long time, last couple of
seasons at Purdue. Before that, he was a wide receiver,
so it's not like he has a normal running back

(27:39):
wear and tear on his body already. So he physically
he's a little bit younger than a man of his
age at this position, and you know, just started getting
the ball a ton. So I would rather have Tracy,
and I think again, with a young team that has
who knows what's gonna happ and at running back or

(28:02):
at quarterback, you're going to have to hand the ball
off a lot, and Tyrone Tracy proved at the end
of the season he is the guy. So I'm a
big fan of both these guys. I like the team
context a little bit more for Carolina because we know
they have Bryce young, they need to add some wide
receiver talent and the defense is real bad, so they're
going to need to be scoring a ton of points

(28:22):
to try to play catch up with the Giants. I
just think Tyrone Tracy is going to get volume because
we don't know who the quarterback is here.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Hubbard or Tracy fits Do you have a strong preference
one way or the other?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Not a strong one. I've got Hubbard sixteen and Tracy nineteen,
and I would not try to argue that Boggs is
wrong and having Tracy ranked higher. I think part of
it is the perception that with Hubbard that he was
sort of viewed, not only by Dynasty managers but also
by the Panthers themselves as sort of either a complimentary

(28:55):
piece or a backup going into last year. But then
he went out and proved how good he was. Hundred
plus scrimmage yards, eleven touchdowns, and he's pretty much assured
of being a workhorse this coming season with Jonathan Brooks
likely to miss all or most of the season after that.
ACL tear number two for Jonathan Brooks. But Tracy, like

(29:16):
the RB nineteen ranking I have for him could be
way too high or way too low a ranking like
he's kind of a hard guy to peg, but eleven
hundred scrimmage yards and six touchdowns as a rookie pretty impressive.
We don't know what the role will be, but I
think it's somewhat encouraging. That he managed to by the
end of the season sort of marginalized Devin Singletary, who

(29:38):
had kept forcing his way into the running back picture
on his previous teams, first in Buffalo and then with
Houston in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So I got carries when Tracy fumbled.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Exactly exactly. And the only thing that kind of terrifies
with me with Tyrone Tracy is he reminds me in
so many ways to Antonio g Gibson, who I had
this giant man crush on early in his career and
kind of got derailed by fumbles and maybe lack of efficiency.
Like Antonio Gibson, Tyrone Tracy is this converted college wide

(30:13):
receiver who made a great early impression and who had
some fumbling problems. So we'll see, but I am overall
pretty optimistic about Tracy.

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(30:44):
fantasypros dot com slash chat. All right, guys looking at
running backs twenty one through thirty. Brian Robinson Junior, James Connor,
Isaiah Pacheco, Tony Pollard, Travis etn O'marian Hampton, DeAndre Swift,
Traveon Henderson, Ormandre Stephens, and Naji Harris. So once again
I mentioned it already, but all these guys are, you know,

(31:06):
on not not all old, but you know, on the
older end. They're all born in the nineties, except for
the rookies that are mentioned here in Hampton and Henderson.
Kind of that top part of this grouping, you know,
Brian Robinson, James Connor, is AA Pacheco kind of similar
style players. I think that O'marion Hampton, which, by the way,
to highlight the difference, you know, again ECR maybe catching

(31:27):
up on the rookies. You guys have him fifteenth and
sixteenth respectively, so that is more in line with where
I think he is. It's probably projecting somewhat in terms
of the landing spot because if he more so than genty,
if Hampton goes to a poor landing spot, it feels
like that would really hurt him, whereas j genty there's
like there are very few landing spots that I think
would actually hurt him Hampton. There could be. Now if

(31:50):
Hampton goes to great if Hampton goes to the LA Chargers,
then fifteen or sixteen will be too low, right like
he will be in RB one in Dynasty. At least
in my opinion and possibly your guys is opinion as well.
I think that fifteen sixteen range is a good kind
of spot to be in for now placeholder Again, he's
twenty six in ECR. I'm actually starting to come around
we can just stick with Hampton to start off here.

(32:12):
I'm kind of coming around to the idea that it's
similar to I'm not saying an exact one for one repeat,
but it's similar to last year with Marvin Harrison Junior
and Malik Neighbors. I'm not saying that Hampton is going
to be as good as Neighbors is, but where these
guys are both really good and yet one of them
is being ranked as like a step in day one

(32:34):
like our last year's wide receiver one. This year RB
one and the other guys further down, and I think
that gap is too wide, like Gent should be ahead
of Hampton, but I don't know that the gap again,
the perceived gap for genty is a top five dynasty
guy already and Hampton again you know, more in the
teens late teens again ECR twenty six. I just think
that's that's too wide. Bogging.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, I think whenever you have a guy at the
tippy top, who is you know, in the highest in
race all year and leading a team in a playoff
run and all that stuff, the guy that is most
disrespected is whoever is right behind him. And we did
it with Malik Neighbors last year, and I think you're
absolutely right. I think Omar and Hampton is getting overlooked.

(33:18):
I think the running backs in general behind Gent because
of what you know, the NFL has done with the
position and not paying them and pushing them down in
the draft and all that stuff. I think they get
overlooked because of that a little bit. There's a lot
of very good backs in this group. There's a lot
that are in my top thirty that we haven't even
got to yet. So yeah, I think I think you're

(33:41):
right with the disrespect because this guy, you know, think
about Gibbs Gibbs went twelve, and they were like, ah,
based on Montgomery too, I don't know what's gonna happen
with Gibbs, blah blah blah. Right, No, Gibbs is amazing.
Now he's number two. He's right behind Bijon in our rankings,
and no one thought it was going to be Bijon
and then Gibbs. They thought maybe he was gonna be

(34:01):
Beijeon and somebody else. But Gibbs is outstanding, and I
think you're absolutely right Worm. We're doing a little bit
of the same, not exactly the same. I don't think
Hampton's gonna go twelve. Of course, I didn't think Gibbs
was going to go either. The Lions took their shot,
so he could still go in the first round. Back
into the first round, like you said to the Chargers,
could happen. You know, maybe the Chiefs, you know, decide

(34:25):
they want a very good running game because it was
kind of back and forth between Busted Pacheco and old
Kareem Hunt last year. So there are many spots he
could end up that could be very good.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But I'm one hundred percent in agreement with your It's
an interesting comparison. I just saw last There's a Ravens
fan I follow who is a has a scouting background
and is like real, real heavy into the draft and
evaluating each rookie class. And he had Gibbs ahead of
Beijon a couple of years ago. And he actually just
tweeted yesterday that he has Hampton ahead of Gent. Now,
I think that's going too far. I would not have
any running back in this class ahead of Gent, But again,

(34:56):
I think it speaks to the fact that I don't
think the gap is as wide as Maybe it's not insane.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I wouldn't do it, but I mean, I don't know.
Jensey's had a lot of touches, Like that's the one
knock you could say on him coming out of college.
He's had a ton of touches. Hampton's had a decent amount.
He had a decent amount.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
This what's the age gap on them? Genty's December three,
Hampton Marcher three, So same year, handful of months apart.
Fits What do you think about that? Just the gap
between Genty and Hampton In general.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I've got Gent like a cut above, but I love Hampton.
He's my number two. Although I know some people do
not have Hampton number two. Like some people have either
Calebe Johnson or one of the Ohio State guys. I
think Hampton's pretty fantastic. There have been two, no, sorry, three,
fifteen one hundred yard rushing seasons in University of North

(35:47):
Carolina football history, and Hampton has two of them. Oh
and by the way he catches passes. Andy's this big
dude who just like is a load to bring down,
and he's actually violent and pretty elusive. Like he has
this his lateral agility for a bigger dude is really impressive.
Some people of Compton to Nick Chubb, and I don't
hate that comp He's Nick Chobb without any sort of

(36:11):
knee injury history coming into the league. So yeah, he
could potentially be a year from now when we revisit
this would not be surprising to see him in the
top ten.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
The other rookie in this group you just mentioned the
Ohio Steak guys is Traveon Henderson. That is the guy
that I like as RB three in this class, and
he's two spots away in ECR from Hampton. I feel
a lot less confident in saying like, oh, he should
be much higher than this. I do think like he's
RB twenty eight in ECR. I do think that's low,
but unlike Hampton, where I'm really excited about about the

(36:43):
possibilities for him, and again, depending on the landing spot,
I'll be all over him in rookie drafts. Henderson is
a guy I really like, but I have a lotless
conviction that I do when talking about Hampton. Fits.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, Henderson might be a little devon h Chan like,
I don't know what sort of low he can handle,
but he is an electric playmaker. The thing is, he
hasn't had more than I believe one hundred and eighty
rushing yards in any of his four college seasons, and
that one eighty came when he was a freshman Carries
So oh sorry, Carris. Yes, so, yeah, he's going to

(37:18):
be a committee back or like part of a two
man a one to two paunch. He'll be the lightning.
Someone else can be the thunder, but who cares. So
is Jumior Gibbs, and he's, you know, one of the
most valuable running backs in Dynasty. Yeah, Henderson is is
well worth trying to acquire. I think he's probably going
to go middle to somewhere, probably between like seven and

(37:42):
eleven even in super flex roocky drafts, bog mean.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're a little lower on Henderson than fits against the
higher than you see r on him.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, I got him at twenty five, and I just
I really like him, and I don't think I do
have Skataboo, I have him. I have Cable Johnson and
quinch On Judkins ahead of him as well. I do
think that the lack of being able to touch the
ball twenty five times it caps the ceiling for sure,
but it also caps the floor because he doesn't need

(38:13):
twenty touches to make an impact. He needs eleven twelve
something like that, and he is going to make a
big play somewhere in their most games on that a
few amount of carries, and if he ends up somewhere
where he gets more than that, it could be more
than a couple huge plays. So I do really like Henderson.
I just think a couple of these guys in the

(38:35):
class can handle a heavier workload.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I feel like everybody else in this group that I
named besides the rookies, and I'll read them again quickly.
Brian Robinson, James Connor, Isaiah pa Checko, Tony Pollard, Travis
y Tien, DeAndre swift Er, Andre Stevenson, Naji Harris. I
feel like every one of these guys, besides the rookies,
is a contending teams RB two, but an uninspiring one
that you're looking to upgrade and slide into a flex
spot like. I feel like that's how I would describe

(38:59):
all of these guys. Does anybody stand out that doesn't
fit that bill for you, Bogman? Or is that a
fair assessment for pretty much all those names?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I think that's a pretty fair assessment. Some of these guys,
I would say, are you know one A instead of
a two? You know, I think Ramandre Stevenson's a one A.
I think James Conner's a one A over Benson. Brian
Robinson is as well, Pollard is as well. But they
all have a back next to them. They're all you know.

(39:29):
I think what you have here is guys that are
guaranteed to get touches and average somewhere around at least
ten points a game, right, So you have high floors
because you know the touches are coming for these guys.
But you know, Washington ads, Caleb Johnson, where does that
leave Brian Robinson? You know, what I mean. If Jacksonville

(39:50):
ads cam Skataboo, where does that leave Trevor ETN or
the Patriots add somebody. These are guys that can get
pushed out of their job quickly, but they have the
guarantee he touches right now. So I think that's kind
of what this group is that we're going through here.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Is there a ceiling that stands out to ear fits
or is it more just a bunch of guys with
high floors and you're not really interested in the ceiling
of anybody.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I'm not even sure the floors aren't necessarily that safe
on a lot of these guys. The one interesting guy
to me is Pacheco, and we arriving a conversation at
once at lunch one day during the trip to Vegas,
and Andrew Erickson made a pretty compelling point about Pachecko
being one of the more intriguing bi Low candidates and
Dynasty just because he was so good as a rookie

(40:38):
and then he was sort of frozen out of the
Kansas City offense late in the season and in the playoffs,
and that's going to be fresh in everyone's mind, but
he just wasn't himself and understandably. So the dude broke
his freaking leg early in the season, like he was
just not going to be the same Isaiah Pacheco. We
saw his rookie year, and I think that Isaiah Pachecko

(40:59):
still exists, Yes, but it wouldn't be any surprise if
we didn't see him back to his old self until
this fall. But like, I think this is a really
good time to swoop in and try to make a
deal for him.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, and fits, I'm glad you brought up Pa Checko
because our guy Deepak Shona is Sports MD. We had
him on the Sunday Show and we talked about Pachecko
a lot on that show and the fact that he said, look,
he's gonna be able to come back at the end
of the year, but he's probably not going to be himself.
That was his exact words, and that's exactly how it

(41:32):
played out as well. So you give him a little
more recovery time and if the Chiefs don't decide to
add a running back, and that's that's always you know,
with all of these guys, even Pacheco, that's the danger
of having a deep running back classes any of these
teams can add a back, and all of a sudden,
your lead back is getting fewer touches and competing maybe

(41:53):
for their own job. So Pachecko I would put in
that bucket. But if they don't add anybody, because he
looks good and you know spring and you know we're
getting into fall camp and here he is looking good,
then yeah, he's gonna be right back to the checko.
We thought he was going into last season and this
is going to be low. So I like the point
that you bring up with him for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Last guy in this group fits that I want to highlight,
just traves Etn. Is there a case to be made
for him as a by low just with new coaching
staff in Jacksonville and possibly a new opportunity or is
he that is that ship sailed?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I kind of worry that we haven't seen the good
stuff from Etn since early in twenty twenty three. Like
there was a point he was averaging I think, I
want to say, over twenty PPR points per game about
midway through the twenty twenty three regular season, and then
like from the midpoint on it was more like thirteen

(42:51):
and a half, and then he was the second best
running back just as a runner maybe a better pass catcher.
Certain like, oh my god, I'm blanking who is the
big Big Wars Tank Tank Bigsby? Yeah, sorry, too many
days in Vegas, but yeah, no kidding. So, but like

(43:13):
Tank Bigsby was a better runner than Etn was this
past year. Like that's that's kind of concerning. I don't know.
I just I now see Etn as as sort of
just a guy on my Dynasty rosters rather than a
building block.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Just quickly bogging any thoughts on the same as fits
I think, you know, just looking at his game log
from last year, the most rushing yards he had in
a game was sixty eight and that was Week three,
and after that he had won two games of fifty
yards or more. One was at fifty and one was
sixty five. So I just think with Liam Cohen coming in,

(43:53):
maybe the whole offense can look better. You know, the
rising shot tide raises all ships, blah blah blah all that.
So maybe he could look better, But there's no guarantee
that he is even going to be Cohen's guy. It
could be Bigsby, it could be someone they draft. So yeah,
I'm just not really sold on ATM for the.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Last group of ten, We'll go a little bit faster
because there's not you know, these aren't a list of
names of guys you're gonna be really heavily relying on
in Dynasty. It's you're trying to find some upside. You're
trying to find some value guys who could be ranked
a lot higher a year from now, from thirty one
to forty. To wrap things up, JK. Dobbins, Zach Sharbona
Rashad White, Trey Benson, Aaron Jones, Quinshawn Judkins, Jalen Warren,

(44:32):
Taj Spears, Tank Bigsby, and Jonathan Brooks so fits. When
looking at this group just right off the bat, is
there anybody that stands out to you as I do
think there's real significant upside here. Let's set aside quin
Shawn Judkins, because obviously a rookie kind of inherently has
has more upside. We haven't seen them yet, But setting
Judkins's side, is there anybody else that we've seen do

(44:53):
it before that has some upside here?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
It's going to be really interesting to see where Dobbins lands.
And just for the short term, a guy with that
sort of medical history, I don't want to count on
for more than like a year or two tops, But
as Boggs mentioned, like play dynasty for the short term,
and all of a sudden, Dobbins becomes an interesting piece.
What if he lands in Dallas? What if Dallas doesn't

(45:19):
draft Ashton genty as everyone is predicting them too, so
depending on where he winds up in free agency, he's
very interesting. I think Charbonay showed us his potential this
year when Kenneth Walker wasn't around. So that's about it.
I mean, this is kind of there's some guys who,
like I don't think should be like Jonathan Brooks, I

(45:42):
would not have in my top forty, you know, Like
this is kind of the point where these are all
pretty expendable players.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
What about Trey Benson, Bogman, He's somebody that I really
liked in rookie drafts last year in anticipation of when
James Connor is no longer around, Benson will have a
great opportunity in a great offense. Really got like no
run for most of the year. He's the youngest guy
in this group besides Judkins, and I guess technically Brooks,
who I think we all agree maybe shouldn't be in

(46:09):
the top forty. So a guy like Benson, he's young,
he's in ascending offense. Theoretically, is this somebody that you
think could be an interesting BILO or was it a
rough enough rookie season relative to expectation that you're not
really interested anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
I honestly don't really care about the rookie season because
you know, James Connor is in front of him. James
Connor is a workforce back. What concerned me is the
fact that they extended James Connor. That's what I didn't like,
was they gave him a couple more years on this deal.
So it's like, oh, was that because they really liked
what James Connor was doing or because they don't like

(46:45):
what Tray Benson was doing? So that concerned me a
little bit. I still think that the second year, especially
in a year where he didn't do much, so he
kind of got to sit and recharge his body a
little bit after a lot of touches at Florida State.
I think he could come out swinging this year. So
I think he's a good type of BILO, especially for
a guy sitting behind James Connor who has an extensive

(47:06):
injury history and is old, so I like the spot
for him. Sharbon A I think should be ranked most
likely way higher than this. I think the skill set
is so good. I would put him in because I have,
like you know, some of these rookie guys in I
got Scataboo at twenty two, I Cable Johnson at twenty

(47:27):
three and Judkins at twenty four. If he wasn't in Seattle,
I'd put him right in that bucket. But ken Walker
just is a star. So he's an injury prone star,
but he's a star. So when he's out there, it's
hard to find sharbon A touches. So I think he's
a guy that I like in terms of upside.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
This can I push back a little on Benson, like
I would flip him for a third rounder right now
if I had him on my team. Like all the
there have been too many red flags. One that he
kind of went into the regular season last year is
like third on the depth chart, I want to say,
like he wasn't even ahead of Amari de Mercado. And
then just the fact that the Cardinals were willing to

(48:09):
re up with James Connor for another two years kind
of signaling that they didn't feel like Trey Benson was
ready to take over as the lead guys.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
So would you rather have Dylan Sampson or Trey Benson
Samson without question, Devin Neil, no question, Devin Neil, Damian Martinez,
Damian Martinez, Oh okay, uh Rishard Smith. I just I
want to see where the line is on these roads.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Probably Benson over Smith.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
But that's significant. That's a lot because I think you
would have Giddons and Manonguy maybe ahead of him ye
as well. That's like ten of these rookie backs.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Maybe not Manong Guy just because he's a smaller dude. Sure,
but like I love his running style, but I just
worry that Monong Guy could possibly be like a seventh
round if a blaze a really fast time.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
That's so.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But I do think there are least a dozen, maybe
fifteen rookies in this class I would rather have than
Trey Benson.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Interesting, I mean, Ben's is only twenty two, he'll be
twenty three by the time the season starts.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I would say this between two because the running backs
are so you know, the shelf life is so short.
If he isn't on his horse, you're not hearing good
things about him in camp. Yeah, I really want to,
but it's probably too late to move him at that
point for anything.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I agree. I think you either move him to say,
like if you can get like a third for example,
like fits us, you get him to take that, or
you say, I'm hoping he takes a step, and if not,
I know I'm getting nothing because because I do think
yet like it feels the ready to say for a
twenty two year old and only a second season, but
it's like a last chance for dynasty managers pretty much already, right, So.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
There's very few Chuba Hubbard outcomes where you kind of
look dusted in your first couple of seasons and then
here he comes.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
There's a lot of guys in this grouping who are
sharing a backfield to varying degrees, but sharing a backfield.
Guys like Rashad Way, Jalen Warre, and Taj Spears, Tank Bigsby,
all of them have players in their backfield who we've
already mentioned higher or in some cases much higher on
this list. Of those guys White, Warren, Spears, and Bigsby Bagman,

(50:23):
how do you kind of parse through who you like
and you don't like of guys in that situation.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Well, the thing for Warren, who is in RFA this year,
but the Steelers are not letting him go if Nause
is a UFA, so he could go wherever. There are
some guys in are UFA, Aaron Jones, Naseg, Dylon Chubb, Javonte.
Not a lot. You're gonna see way more movement from
the some guys getting I think Rahiem Moster got released today,

(50:50):
so you're gonna see more of that stuff before the
draft because teams know they can just draft whoever or
they don't need a fourth running back or whatever. But
I think Jalen Warre in you know right now, if
the Steelers don't draft running back, they have a ton
of needs. They don't go out and sign someone. They
don't have a ton of money. They need to save
it for a quarterback. I think Jalen Warren could be

(51:11):
the lead back for Pittsburgh this year, So I'll have
him a little bit higher since he may get approve
it year.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
I like Rashad White, but he got pushed out. Who's
the other guy you said? I'm sorry Spears, oh space,
Spears and Bigsby. I don't know, Like I think Spears
has had his chance. He couldn't push out Tony Pollard.
I think Tony Pollard's better, so I think his upside
is limited. Yeah, and Tank Bigsby, I just with Liam Cohen,
who knows what's happening with that RB situation. He could

(51:40):
be at three, he could be off the team, he
could be there one, you know. So there's just so
many there's a lot for Tank up in the air
right now.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
If it's same kind of group of guys, how do
you evaluate them.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Biggsby's really interesting because I think he has a pretty
high rushing upside. The only problem is that he does
not catch passes at all in most dynasty leagues are
full point PPR, so like he's always going to have
kind of a lid on his potential ceiling. Although I
do think he's a better runner than ETN, and I

(52:15):
think Liam Cohen's gonna determine the same thing. I am intrigued,
maybe a little more intrigued by tay J. Spears than Boxes,
just because like he is at moments where he has
looked fantastic, like a potential star. I know he's got
the weird thing where he doesn't have what in acl
in one of his knees, so maybe it's a short
peak of his career. But I do think maybe at

(52:37):
some point he gets a shot to be the lead
guy for Tennessee or maybe for some other team. And
you know, I think there's a lot of potential there,
not that I'm willing to give up, like even a
second round pick to find out, but you know, i'd
maybe throw someone a third rounder for tay J. Spears,
and I would rather have ty J Spears than Trey Benson.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
We'll wrap up, which was kind of looking at some
of these other names that weren't inside the top forty.
Just highlight one guy each for me, and let's not
highlight the rookies because we have a lot of rookies
specific content that we've done already that we have coming up.
So we're gonna be this class is amazing at the
running back position for rookies, so we're talking about them
a ton. So for this conversation, I want to put

(53:21):
a bone on it with non rookies outside the top
forty that you have any degree of interest in some
of the names that we didn't get to that are
kind of next up in the rankings, Blake Korum, Braylan Allen,
Ray Davis, Rico, Dawdell, Javonte Williams, Jalen Wright, Jerome Ford,
Tyler Algier. It doesn't have to be one of those names.
It could be somebody else that there's somebody that you
really like that wasn't mentioned. It could be one of them.

(53:43):
But Fitz, I'll start with you. Does anybody stand out
that we didn't talk about today, not a rookie that
you're mildly interested in?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, since I was sort of not missing but not
as enthusiastic about Jonathan Taylor as I maybe should have been.
Early in the Shaw mentioned two second year guys from Wisconsin,
Braylan Allen and Isaac Garndo, who both flashed I think
his rookies. You know, Girndo. We'll see what happens with McCaffrey.
But if Gorendo goes into the next season as the

(54:10):
primary backup to the very injury a guy with a
checkered injury history, let's just say, and Christian McCaffrey, I'll
be pretty intrigued by Girndo because I didn't know how
much nuance he had to his game, other than just
being a big, fast, straight line guy. He showed me
a little more than I was expecting this year. And

(54:30):
then Braylan Allen got off to a terrific start. Didn't
do much after that first month, month and a half,
but obviously just a really big dude with surprisingly good speed.
Maybe if Breeze Hall doesn't have the sort of career
we envisioned for him, there might be room for Braylon
Allen to assert himself in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, is Braylan Allen still like not even being a
rookie the youngest guy on this list? He's he's got
to be close to it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
He is. I mean, he was the youngest player in
the entire NFL draft in twenty twenty four, So he
is still a baby.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Okay, so yeah on our list. Yeah, Dylan Sampson's younger,
obviously a rookie. Damien Martinez is younger by like a week.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
He's younger than a lot of guys out of the
twenty twenty five class.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah, anybody anybody for you? Bugg mean that stands out again,
not the rookie.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, I have Blake korm at thirty four. I have
Ray Davis at thirty six, So both inside my top
forty obviously, you know, just huge impediments in front of them.
But I think the skill set for both these guys
is handle the rock twenty to twenty five times a game,
score a bunch of touchdowns. And I think that they
both showed a little flash of being able to do

(55:44):
it last season. It's just they have huge impediments in
front of them. And James Cook for Ray Davis and
then obviously Kyrin for Blake Koram. And I'll say this,
it would be interesting because now we know Cooper cup
is getting dealt right, they've kind of already said they're
working on a deal for him. Now we're getting rumblings
of Matt Stafford potentially getting traded. Would they move Kyron

(56:10):
and go with Blake korm I think there would be
teams that might be interested in Kyron Williams. I don't
know if you hit the reset button Holly in completely,
but look at how well the Rams did with their
draft picks last year. They fixed this defense with these
draft picks, and they haven't had draft picks for a
while because they've been trading them, but they really nailed

(56:33):
it in the draft last season, So I wonder if
that would give them confidence to potentially add picks and
maybe Kyen could be a guy under the radar on
the move if these dominoes start falling for the Rams,
and then Blake Koran would be looking at a lot
of touches. So I Koran and Davis are guys that
I think could handle a massive workload. Like I put
Tyler Aljeer in that group as well, who I have

(56:55):
down at fifty just because you're not getting out from
around Bejeon, And he showed that at the end of
the year, even you know, at the beginning of the
season where it was kind of a mix between the two,
the end of the season it was Bejon. So I
tyled you another guy I like, but just roadblocks are
way too much for him right now.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, the interesting thing with the Rams backfield is that
Kiren's only two months older than Blake Korum, so it's
not like you're making room for the younger guy. They're
essentially the same age. But yeah, it is an interesting thought.
If they start moving pieces, would they consider him as
one of those pieces to move just given the nature
of the position. All right, we're wrap up there, those
were our top forty, plus a handful of more running

(57:36):
backs in Dynasty. Again, a reminder that you can find
kind of all of our rankings Fantasypros dot com slash rankings.
They are a living document. They will continue to be
updated kind of throughout this draft process in terms of
the rookies and general Dynasty thoughts, and of course all
off season long as we head towards twenty twenty five
several months from now. Four Bogmann and Fits, I'm Ryan Warman.
Thanks everybody for tuning in and suffering through my half

(57:58):
a voice from Vegas, and yeah, we'll see you again
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