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Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with comic genius and improv superstar LISA GILROY!

Well YOU try summing up what Lisa does in a few words then...! Lisa's a true joy and this is one of those awesome chemistry episodes where it all clicks lovely. Lisa's a very hilarious comic who does a ton of hugely popular sketches and bits, and works a bunch in the improv universe - it also doesn't hurt that she's awesome at parties (as we find out) and has great taste in movies. So expect to hear goodies including chill ghosts and hype poltergeists, no boxing day films, the joy of horror recaps and loads on the ace projects coming up too. Such a fun one. ENJOY!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look at you. Sure these films to be buried with? Hello,
and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
a director, a shadow puppeteer, and I love films. As

(00:22):
Sora and Kirckerguard once said, life can only be understood backwards,
but it must be lived forwards, which is why the
Red Room in Twin Peaks is profound as fuck. Yeah,
that's absolutely right, Kickerguard, nice one man. Every week I'm
invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died,
then they get them to discuss their life through the
films that meant that most of them. Previous guests include
Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and even Ked Crampbells.

(00:45):
But this week it is the brilliant comedian, actor and
viral content creator is Lisa Gilroy. Head over to the
Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where
you get an extra fifteen minutes with Lisa. We talk secret,
we talk beginnings and endings. You get the whole episode,
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a video. Check it out over at patreon dot com.
Forward slash Bret Cold Steve. Episode seven of Shrinking season

(01:08):
two is now available on Apple TV. Get caught up
in all the episodes. You'll fucking love it here. So
Lisa Gilroy. Lisa Gilroy is a comedy genius from Canada.
You might recognize her from such shows as Jury Duty
or Brooklyn ninety nine, or you might have seen her live.
She's an amazing improv and sketchoer and I've done some

(01:29):
gigs with her. She's one of the funniest people I've
ever met. Was very excited to record this with her.
We did it on Zoom and it was an absolute delight.
I really think you're going to love this one. So
that is it for now. I very much hope you
enjoy episode three hundred and twenty six of Films to
be Buried With Hello, and welcome to Films to be

(01:58):
Buried With. It is I old Stein and I am
joined today by an actor, a writer, a comedian, escape co,
an improviser, a party goer, an influencer, a jury member,
a interior chinatowner, a legend of stage and screen. And

(02:21):
it's erber and genuinely and wait and genuine and an
interruptor and genuinely one of the funniest people I've ever met.
She's going to be the biggest star you've ever seen,
but we got here first. Please welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
She is KaiA Gerbert.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Thank you, Hi, Kyah.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm the most beautiful and skinniest girl in the world.
Thanks for having me Brat. That was a lovely intro.
Sorry I interrupted it.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, it's good that you did it. You know. It's
lovely to see you, Lisa. How are you today? Great.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
We went to a party last night and we stayed
up late. We did stay really late, so I'm a
little tired, but I'm good.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It was fun though. You're very good at a party.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Oh that's so nice. I hope that's my only quality.
I hope that's what's on my tombstone.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is your any quality that would be.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
The highest honor.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It's a really good quality to have though. And interestingly,
Emily last night she said, oh, you know, I love it.
She said something about like anyway. The point was what
she was getting at is she thought that I was
socially adept, and I was like, that is shocking. I
thought your bar must be so low.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's crazy. Because she hangs out the clost people in
the world. So do you think I mean her husband's kumel.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, I'm saying I think she's Her expectations for what
cancer is socially adept must be horrendous if I'm passing
that bar. But you are particularly good.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
What do you think you did to make her say that?
What was your big highlight of the party that you
were like, dang, bright, you're really being a little You're
being kind of the little queen of the party.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's when you're like when there's more than one person
and you say something appropriate to what the last person said.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, right, that is such a great feeling.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I listened, and what I said contributed. It was an
add on and it increased the flow around this space,
which is how everyone thinks at a party.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I hope I can increase the flow around this space.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Need Well, every time I looked over at you, you
were standing in a group of people and everyone was
throwing their head bats, screaming, laughing, take off their shirts,
showing them the air.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
This guy's so funny.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I know. It was weird.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That was felt good.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was it was an unusually good night. Yeah, but
you were doing bits I saw it, I'd glance over.
There's a bit you were sort of standing on your
head on the kitchen islands. Yeah, you had a pineapple
on the on the base of your foot.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, and I do. Yeah my coffee. Can you hear
it ASMR.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
No, it's not coming through.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, Well you'll get it on the quick time recording.
The fans are going to go wild.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I can't hear your snapping either, but the fans will
get it.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Lisa Gilroy, you are very funny. You're such a good improviser. Genuinely, don't.
I don't say that lightly. You're a wonderful improviser. And
he was in that show Jury Duty, which for those
I don't know if it was in England, so let
me for the viewers listeners at home, Jury Duty was
a fake show about a real man thinking he was

(05:29):
on a jury for a real crime, but everyone else
of the jury was an improviser. Correct.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Those stinkers, those stinkers, there's wankers.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Can you say wankers?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You can say that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is it the same as stinkers?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, it's worse, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, So you.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Wouldn't say if you were babysitting some kids and they
were being a little bit troubling you and go you wankers.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
No, it depends what coming from the.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Backyard, you wankers. It's time for lunch. No, could you
say that you called them cuts if you like? Oh, okay,
yeah that's right. I'm just getting kind of up on
my British line.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, come on, come on, time for lunch. Actually getting
funny story cunts.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean I had a friend who worked at Disney
for Remember Penguin.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
It was called like Club Penguin. Do you know that game?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
It was for kids and they could be little penguins
and talk to each other. Anyways, it was her job
to block the user names that were inappropriate, and one
kid tried to name his penguin cunts for lunch. So
I always think about that.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's counts for lunch.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, it is a good with the number four in
the middle. And I think there was a Z on
the end of cunts.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's a franchise. I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Could we quickly talk about Jerry Duty. So in the
making of Jury Duty, there's a person who thinks they're
in a real jurty. How long were you filming that,
and how often were you thinking, are we getting away
with this? Et cetera. Can you just give me a
bit of real life? What was it like? It's a
very funny show.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Well, okay, I was only there for one day because
I was a witness for one day. But I was
on the stand in the show. I think I'm only
in the show for maybe ten minutes as a witness.
But some of those scenes went viral on TikTok, which
makes it seem like I had a bigger role on
that show than I actually did.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
But I was only there for a day.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I was cross examined on the stand for like three hours,
and they cut it down to a whatever, ten minute segment.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And yeah, I think you.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Do get away with it because they fill that trial
which he thinks they're shooting because it's a documentary about
the legal system, and they put so much actual, boring,
real stuff in it to pack the day that he
was so bored ninety percent of the time. And then
the show's just all the funny parts cut together. So
that's I think how they pulled it off.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's clever. You're about to be in a very big show.
This is what I've started doing this now like a
chat show. So you're about to be in a tell
us about the.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Wait wait wait, So you have a three year old
daughter and she had a birthday recently, is that right?
And you planned something unusual for the party?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Tell us about that?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So you had you had a thought about the red
carpet for the for the premiere, the premiere, the premier, Yeah, premier.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, the premiere is coming up next week. Can I'm excited?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's a Hulu show. It's called Interior Chinatown.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Jimmy o Yang, Ronnie Shank, Chloe Bennett are very funny
and cool in it, and I'm there to support as
I do.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Come on, it actually looks really really good.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
That yeah, I'm excited to see it. It's like a
little juicy little mystery. But it's hard to tell when
you're on a mystery show and you know all the
answers to the mystery when you watch it, if it's
accessible to unpuzzle or do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I do know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
It's like doing an escape room that you've already done.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well, you know the sixth sense, the sixth sense when
they lots of people, lots of people working on it
thought it wouldn't work. So they're like, because they knew it,
they knew the twitch.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh they really, it's so obvious. So movie, yeah, Oh
I didn't know that because.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
When you watch it, it gets shot. He gets shot
and he's bleeding to death right at the beginning, and
then he doesn't interact with anyway.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I don't think I've ever fully watched that movie tip
to tail. I'm very afraid of scary movies, and I
think I always knew the twist of that one.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
What's going on with m Night by the way.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Let's talk about it?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Can we talk about him for a second? I mean, okay,
have you seen the latest movie with Josh Hartner.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I haven't yet, but I'm really excited to because.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm dying to talk to you about it because it's
like the sixth.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Sense came out. There was the Village.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
There's a bunch of things that in the early days
we were like, holy shit, these twists are twisting my tits,
like we couldn't recover. The twists were so mind blasting. Yeah,
and now are we just untwistable now? Or is he
getting untwistable? Do you know what I mean well, because
then there was the Beach where people get old, and
we kind of had a laugh at that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I love the beachv People get out. I love that way.
That's one of my favorite and Night fails the Beachev
people get Out.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
But do you think if that came out, when the
Sixth Sense came out, that would have blown our minds?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Like are we changing? Or is he changing?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's a great question. I actually have a serious answer
if you would like it, I really do.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I'm dying to hear your opinion, because you're the movie man,
you're a movie doctor.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, I think I think that the reason that I
think that he had a sort of system of twists,
had to make a film with a twist, and and
it's all clever and intellectual and sort of works. But
what is missing often, although I haven't seen Trap, is
that the Sixth Sense not only is a brilliant twist,
intellectually clever, like oh what, he was dead the whole time,

(10:11):
it's also emotional. It's so emotional because you're invested in
this relationship and this relationship with his wife. Why is
he a strained from his wife? Why what's going on
with this little boy? So the twist is the twist
is so powerful because it also makes you cry because
you fucking care, but this twist doesn't. And the problem
with a lot of twists in other things is the
twist might be clever, but the twist often undoes what

(10:33):
you've watched before and it makes.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It was all a dream like, Yeah, okay, oh.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I feel like an idiot. Whereas the sixth.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sense, that's interesting because did you see the village too?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yes, I like the village.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And that that too.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I felt like I had emotional sticks right because it
was like they're all going out on her own.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So I wonder here's a question.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Do you think it's because m Night like had these
gorgeous little movies written and he was sitting on them
and polishing them for like fifteen years, and then suddenly
he became famous and those are the ones he really
sterly on. And then they weally keep giving us the
twist twist man, and then he was like, oh, I
only got three months for this.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Next one could be that.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
This is a hard podcast for you to do, right
because you are Yeah, so do you find it hard
to talk candidly about movies when you are yourself a
little movie.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
When I am the movie daughter. Yeah, I don't want
to be negative about right.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Oh so that's why one of the questions you gave
me was, what's one of the worst films you've ever
seen in your life?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah? Then I would just sit back.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
You want me to sewer myself in Hollywood so that
you're stark and shine brighter.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I love this tactic you.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Go through, kind of making everybody unable to work with
everybody else, and then you're the last little baby in
the rubble.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Come on the show. Don't tell me your thoughts about
m night. He's got a new film he's casting. Tell
me about you.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, the last one I saw, I mean I watched
it with May Did we tell you about it? It
was the It's the one where Josh Hartnett is like
a dad at a concert. But the twist is very early.
Something is revealed early on. Can I say what it is?
It's early early, like in the first.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Series ten minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think it might even be in the trailer.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I think it's in the trailer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Anyways, in one part, he takes off his shirt and
he eats a piece of pie, and neither of those
things make sense. But they're in there. It's a good
trailer moment probably.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
So is there no further twist? The twist is up top,
but then there's not a twist at the end.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
He isn't.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Really The big twist is the shirt off pie eating.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
They're kind of build up the movie like you don't
think this guy would ever eat a piece of pie,
do you? And you probably think he loves he loves
wearing his shirt, and then he goes and he kind
of just like destroys everything you ever thought about him.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And it's imaginal as well, because it's quite moving towards
tout out to eat a pie a top place exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it looks good.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I guess what I want to know is what do
you want? What's your dreams? You can do one job
in this, in this you're here in La, you've quit
all these opportunities. You can write, you can act, you
can sketch, you can improvise. This one thing you can do.
What is it?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I want to do like a really funny ensemble comedy
where I don't have to do any heavy lifting. I
don't have to like establish any position or emotional stakes.
I want to be Dwight shrewd, you know, right, or
like Joey from Friends, you could be I guess he
sometimes has to get someone pregnant or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'll do that. I'm willing to do that.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
He casually has to get breaken up with. Yeah, sometimes
he said, But like that's.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
The dream, isn't it a long running But maybe this
doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
The longer I'm in LA, the more the things that
look the most fun. You start hearing that everyone hated
each other and had the worst time.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But I would love to be with like a group
of comedians that's fun, and they's a ensemble comedy that's
just like hard comedy.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, that would be my dream of all dreams.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I think you can make it happen.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
What's your dream of all dreams? Or have you touched
them all? Now?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I did do it, I did say me Street. My dream,
I guess is left as I would like to do
a really good Muppet maybe.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh, you want to be a human in it, or
you want to be a voice.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm not picky.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I take what if they made a remake of Christmas Carol? Up,
it's Christmas Carol. Michael Caine. Yeah, I'm not going to
and they asked you to do it, you couldn't. No, No,
that's a perfect I'm not attaching that. You crazy, that's perfect.
I'm not going anywhere do that. That's you Leave that
as it is. I'll do Boxing Day. Oh I love
Boxing Day. And we don't have many movies about it.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're fucking right, we don't have any Boxing Day movies.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
That's probably because the Americans don't observe. I know everything
has to be for the Americans.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, Lisa, Oh fuck, I've forgotten to day something. Oh no,
I've forgotten today again. It's oh god, it's I should
have told you this. I could have told you last night.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
See out with it? You anchor?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Okay, you died, you're dead dead. I had a feeling, Yeah,
how did you die?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I almost died once, and I sometimes have a feeling
that it actually happened on the day and I've been
dead this whole time.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I bought, like from the Dollar store a Santa hat
that was attached to a beard, and I was wearing
around my home when I was like seventeen, and my
older sister, who was in college, was like studying doing homework,
and I was bothering her with the with my outfit on,
and I made myself laugh so hard that I inhaled
the piece of the Santa's mustache and it was like

(15:13):
that kind of like plasticky hair, like the synthetic bad
Wig hair. Yeah, and it went like down my throat.
It was like this, I was dying. I was dying.
I was choking. I was choking as coughinge. I threw
up like I thought it was. I almost died. So
maybe that did the deed.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So you think you actually did die?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, I think I might have.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
And this is a death dream.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, and it's been a pretty good dream.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You went viral on TikTok. I mean that's I must
be in the heaven. Wow. Do you worry about death?

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't really do drugs for that reason, because I
always think I'll die. I just feel like I'm the
kind of personality that would die immediately. Like there's other
girls at the party that are kind of like, oh,
she's on drugs and she's having a good time. Oh
you know, Lisa did drugs because she's actually dead now
and she's the one being taken home in the ambulance.
And then that my parents would be there being like, yep,
she you know how embarrassing imagine your parents at your

(16:10):
funeral being like I guess she wanted to make the
party extra good.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That such, she was always trying to improve the parties. Listen,
you wanted on your gravestone really good at parties, Yeah, exactly,
and you will get there. Yeah, not so good at parties.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
She died for the party, right, although I'm on the
brink of dying for the party. You saw me last night,
I was like whipping out history facts.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I don't know desperate times what.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I didn't like about last night. If I may have
one criticism, it's not ending you. It's the people you
were talking to because you brought out history riddles as
a way to improve the party. You said, let's play
history riddles, and you asked one history riddle, and at
first I can see people going, I don't know if
this is going to be It's something about history and

(16:55):
riddles together. Doesn't sound fine?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, I know, it's kind of a good nightmare combination
of words.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
However, you do the first one, people think about it
for a minute, what what what? They play along, and
then they get into it. And they really. Then suddenly
the room is engaged, everyone's excited their team Lisa. And
then when the reveal happens, it leads to bits about
the reveal. Oh my god, that's so funny, so interesting.
I didn't know that. People doing jokes about the bits.
And then someone I don't even think it was you.

(17:21):
Someone goes, have you got another one? Now everyone's history riddles?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, and I'm like, oh, now I'm mother cow and
everyone's going to feast on my tits for the whole party,
like someone else brings something to the table.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, so then you really the history facts?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I said, you said, oh am I going to get
back ache from carrying this party, and everyone's like ha
ha do another, and you do another, and people turned
and I thought, you fucking monsters, this.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Fucking nummy, Like basically, this is too many history facts.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
This woman is out here bringing it to this party.
She's saving this and you have turned like clap because
you didn't like the second history riddle.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, And you know what, that's a mirror because it's like,
if you didn't like the second history riddle, it's because
you couldn't guess it.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, no one guessed it. Interesting. No one guessed it
is that why they didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
And so they were upset.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
They were almost like upset at themselves and they were
projecting their anger. They were projecting their low self esteem
onto me, and they kicked you out, which sometimes happens
at a party. If you're having a bad conversation with
someone at the party, the chances are they are projecting
their low self esteem onto you. That's the only reason
why the conversation is not going well.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yes, well do you think that I'm talking? When you're
talking to someone who's really boring, I often think, because
I at my best self, I think, oh, no, one's boring.
If you ask the right question, you just have to
find the way in right. But then occasionally sometimes you're like,
I think this person is boring, but is that you?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, jobs can kind of get there.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
If you ask a question to a person that has
a job that you don't understand and will never understand,
that's kind of the kiss of death. And they launch
into it and they're like, yeah, I work at a company.
We take the data from different marketing advertisements.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
We do.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
It's not quite focus group, but it's we I kind
of monitor what goes out for our demographic, they just
start saying a bunch of words that's kiss of death.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So that's why it's good to not ask people about
their jobs.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, Oh, I have a really good question for at
a party if you're talking to a boring person. Sometimes
I say, what's something that you've been dying to talk about?
But no one ever asks you about? And people will
say They'll be like I got this new car, or like, oh,
I got a membership with this weird gym that has
this room in the back. They'll like start saying interesting things,
It's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wow, what's the thing that you've been dying to talk about?
And no one's asked too about movies?

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Just different, all different kinds, every movie I've ever watched,
all the things I feel about them.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, I don't know if I can help with that.
Tell me this, What do you think happens? Do you
worry about death? We've done that? What do you think
happens when you die?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah? Well, I worry about doing drugs and dying.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
And I guess I'm well a palm reader kind of
guessed how I would die, But I don't.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'll tell you after.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I don't want to say it on the podcast because
it feel too vulnerable, because then I feel if I die,
that's why everyone's going to go.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
This clip be like, here's her saying she was going
to die. So I do think about that.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I was in a restaurant once and there was a
tarot reader in the restaurant and everyone went something to
do in it, and I went to the star reader
and she said, she looked at the card and she said,
you work. You do something with math. You work a
lot with numbers. You're very good with numbers. You work
with math. And I was like, no, couldn't we But that's.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Not even Isn't that not even like what Taro is.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Couldn't be worse.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Taro just job guessing. They turn over sixty cars, so
they go Veterinarians.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Like data something with data, very good with data. I
was like, absolutely, absolutely not. I can't don't under anyway.
So it's been very.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Freeing for you, see, because that's nice to have somebody
say something, just get it wrong, and then you're released.
But if I say you're going to die this way,
there's no way for you to prove or deny that,
or you just have to live with it.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Not that you're going to tell us how they said
you're going to die. But would you like it? Is
that a good way to die?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
No? A bad way to die?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Do you know when?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
No? But I know some surrounding circumstances. For example, if
I told you if you ever are about to go
to a birthday party and the same week you get
on the ladder for some reason, you will die.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's like that.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
There's like two events that would happen at once.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I have a friend who has had like real, real
dream about being on a plane to Denver, specifically to Denver,
and the plane crashes, crashes, and they die in the dream.
And now they've had lots of things they have to
be in Denver for and they just drive, always drive. Whoa,
they won't take the plane because of the dream.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's scary. How far away do they live from? I
hope they're not in England?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, in England it takes fucking ages.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I guess you could drive close to Denver and then
I mean, you could fly close to Denver and then
drive the rest.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Of the way. I think I think that's what they do.
What do you think happens when you die? Not when
you die? After you die.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I think you're like kind of around still, like you're
maybe you're like Goo in the appospe and you are
not a ghost, but you're everything everywhere all at once.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
And the consciousness you can't like you're still you in
your brain.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, but you're not really, You're like better than you,
you're bigger than you. You're you're like free from you,
but you still have a tickle of who you used
to be.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I guess I'm probably not supposed to be asking you
these questions because if everyone does that, then you say
the same thing every episode.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, but does.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Anyone ever ask you? Does anyone ever make the clown laugh?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You're trying to make the cloud cry? I think it's
a bit like the film so is what I think?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Isn't that the movie about the the animated movie where
the zoo creatures sing, Oh that's sing?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I thought, maybe it's kind of like the movie Interstellar,
remember where there's like the whole thing and he's there
and it's like time space continuum. Maybe it's like everything's
we're just all around all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, yeah, I have started to think that maybe guys
and posts guys and things like that are more to
do with time than guysts and that we're seeing the
past or the future happening crossing over.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
What's the difference between a ghost and a polter geist?
And can you say polter geist as a singular word, like, oh,
there's a polter geist?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I think guys physically. I think guys you can't see
and they chuck shit around. And a ghost can do
all sorts of things that you can see them, and
they're just they could sit car I don't think a
poetry guys is very calm. Guys can be pretty calm.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So, oh, poltergeist is cranky and they move things in
a way it is.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Like a teenager, like a movide teenager to thry and
stuff around. Leave me alone, mom, let me.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Ask you this.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Ghost are more chill. But what if you see in
your house? What if you see like a candle float
up and then get placed back down on the coffee table?
Are you like the gentleness with with which it was
placed back down means that's a ghost, not a polter geist,
even though it's touching a thing.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, I'm going that's a guys. If the kind of
went across the room a guy. Yeah, I guess it's
it's more of a thing.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, right, you guys, you have to kind of feel
it out.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, guys like guys can be I think, can be
mean and evil or nice, but they can do it slowly.
I think there's that pace poetry. Guyst isn't hiding guys
like I'm over here and the guys is like, have
you seen me yet?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, ghost is a little cheekier.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I would just like to put you in a study
where there's a candle being lifted up on a table
and step back down and at different intervals of like
you know, force with her just being placed back down
for you to suddenly snap your fingers and go, now
it's turning guys.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, guys, guys, guys.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And we can yeah, and we'll we'll like quiz you know,
a thousand people and we'll kind of get the barometer
for what actually is a polter geist.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, I think that's right. Do you have a different
understanding of it?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, I only know Poltry guys from the movie, and
I think I was under the impression that they come
from the TV, because isn't there like a scene where
the little girl's like they're here and the TV's going
all warbly.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
So I was like, they must come from the TV.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
But now with you know, so the digital age, I
think they can just come through your broadband.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
But they have to come through somewhere Internet related or
you related, or a phone.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
They come through the phone.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think there has to be a sort of copper
wire somewhere. But you, guys, the guys can be anywhere.
This could be one behind you right now.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Maybe ghosts come from heaven and polter guys come from hell.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Could that be it?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, that could be it. But the thing is with
the part of guys, we don't know what they're angry about.
And maybe it's you. Maybe you need to leave and
actually like like a boring person at the party, like
maybe this is on me, that this maybe I've messed
up their house, you know what I mean? Right?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Do you like the movie Casper?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, very much, me too.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You know what I always picture sometimes when I'm eating
I think about this, you know, the big fat ghost
uncle man and how he pours a bunch of food
into his body and it just plops down to the ground.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, I love that, dreamy.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Would I mean, I guess that's what we're doing, just
throwing a bunch of food down our mouths and having
a fall out of our asses.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But it's just faster and cooler when he does it.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah. Yeah, that's like parts of guys eating. Yeah. Yeah,
we do it more like guys leisurely.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Oh so you think ghost sit on the toilet to poop?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
What? I can't imagine there is a guys to have
a game fuck and run into the toilet, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Oh, it's so true. They're like totally in control at
all times.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm not saying the dug to it. But they eat
their fiber, they take it, they chew, yeah, you know,
I mean they use cutlery. I don't think you'll ever
eat guys to eat a sandwich, right, but they will
have meat.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
So I'm maybe a ghost is like I don't know,
maybe ghost is British and Poultergeist as American.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's for you to say, not me. I'm, you know,
just a visitor. I'm just well, listen up, uncle man.
There is a heaven and you're going to it and
it's filled with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh? I didn't think about this.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I guess if I imagine having I'd like it to be
like big bunk bed and big lots of dubets and
pillows like slumber party cozy cozycos.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
And loads of people on the bank beds with you
likes of friend so it's just you on your own.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Friends, but like they're far enough away that you can
choose if you're gonna interact. And there's little candies. I
love candy. I always get cavities. It's one of my
greatest problems.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's really fun. So it's a giant sleeve over with
people you're not sure you want to interact with.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Well, you can choose one giant yes, yes, yes, huge
do they I like?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
So you roll into people, you have a chat and
when your body is just roll away and they're like
I got it here.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, And you always know, yeah, you always know when
it's like time to everyone's like okay, well I'm gonna
chill now, I'm gonna like watch this or do this,
and you're like yep, and you roll away from each other.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Fucking great. All right, well that's what happens. Like and
you turn up there and I was like, get in
the bank bed. We won't talk unless you rode towards us,
and they're all excited to see you. And at one
point you're like you're lying there, and then you roll
towards someone you go, hey, what's happening, and they go,
we want to know about your life through film, and
they're ask you, what's the first film? What's the very
first film you remember seeing? Lisa Gilroy.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think my first movie I ever saw in theaters
was Pinocchio. They animated, you know, I was born, I
don't know, nineteen fifty five. Why does that movie feel
so old? That's the first thing. And I remember that
my sister and I were screaming and crying when the
boys got turned into donkeys, which I think is a
very cruel thing to do to the little boys.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Remember they're on some sort of roller coaster and suddenly
start turning into donkeys.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
They were a fairground. Yeah, it's really disturbing. It was
a different time.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
There was like a whole genre of time where movies
for kids were actually very scary. Yeah, in a way
that I feel like they're not there, or maybe we're
adults now and they don't scare us anymore, or do
you think kids' movies are less scary?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Now I think they're as sad as they ever were.
You know, you know, if you can get through a
Pixil film without wanting to, you know, end it, Oh
good luck to here.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
But don't you think they're kind of sad in a
better way? Like I feel like kids' movies back then
were like, oh, your favorite person just got shot, or
like the animal that you loved is dead. And now
it's like it's sad, like they came back from heaven
to say a final beautiful word. It's almost like touching sad,
and before it was just like traumatic sad.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, I think you're right. Is it just you and
your sister in your family?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah? No parents, just two little girls out in the woods.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Fuck, and you snuck out to how was this Tokia?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
And then we both started crying. We both had to
carry each other out.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
It was so sad.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, that's too. She's older, so I don't know what
her excuse was.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Do you love each other so much?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's nice. Did it make you want to be a
wooden boy?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay, it maybe made me want to be Geppetto.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Oh you wanted to make a wooden boy?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
What is the film that made you cry the nice
Lisa Gilroy, Are you a crier?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah? Big time?

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Really well, I remember the very first movie I ever
cried in was Brave Heart, which seems like I know
that was too mature for me to be watching at
the age that I was watching it, And I remember
my mom watching with me and pausing in every like
twenty seconds to explain to me what was happening, without
which I never would have understood.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I still don't know if I really but when.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
He died, I can't tell if it's because I stayed
up too late to watch it and I was really tired.
But it's emotional in the end, you know, he cries
for freedom, and I was crying, and I was like, oh,
I had feelings like you could you know, you could
care about something outside of yourself, Like you could care
about a whole country. You could care about a whole
group of people. That never occurred to me before.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Will Be twenty four must must have been. I loved
loved it me.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Too, But it's really I mean, I shouldn't have been
watching it. There's some mature subject matter in that. Remember
when he marries his bride and secret in the woods.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, she's beautiful this way.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
There was kind of a rule in my house that
I was allowed to watch. We were allowed to watch
anything our parents were watching as long as we didn't
repeat the language.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
That was kind of the rule.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
So you weren't allowed to do impressions of mel Gibson
and Brave Heart afterwards. That must have driven me.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
But then I did get caught saying shit once and
then I had to not I wasn't allowed to watch
the movies of the parents for a while, but I
think at the end of the day my parents were
just like, we want to watch what we're watching. It's
actually more annoying to tell the kids that they can't
watch it, because then we have to watch something family friendly.
Have you ever said shit before? So you're still allowed
to watch any movie you want?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, that's why I do this podcast if I break
that rope.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
So I really that's like one of my biggest regrets.
I wish I hadn't upset it so that I could
continue to watch whatever I wanted.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
But do you remember what disgusting film it was that
told you that way?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I could it have been? Do you think yes or no?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
The word shit is in the movie Brave Heart, yeah,
and is it like the Game of Throne style of
like which one of you coward shit my pants kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
It would have had to be a joke, right, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Would be in it would be like we're fucking shit
all over the English.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, something like that. Okay, yes, I agree, So maybe
Braveheart taught me shit.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Then m got you learned a lot from that film,
and you learned about the history.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I learned to care for humanity and I learned the.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Sah Scottish history. Yeah, what is the film that scared you?
De mice? Do you like being scared? Do you like?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I don't like being scared?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
And this is funny because this question is like the
heaviest one for me, because everything has scared me in
some way, shape or form. Like even I still remember
the covers of Blockbuster movies, like going to rent a
movie and I would see like the cover of candy Man,
which I never saw, Silence of the Lambs, which I
never saw. It was just like the covers of these
things and they were like bugs on women's faces or

(32:06):
one of them is something is like a moth over
a woman's mouth, and then candy Man is like a
hornet on a woman's eye, just AT's see a gorgeous
woman and put some disgusting beetle on it, and then
I'll think about it forever.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Horror film, that fear factor, it was just.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Oh god, and I've never forgot a single one that
I've ever seen. Just the cover that was enough to
keep me awake at night. That's how sensitive I am
to these things. So those things really scared me. Trailers
for movies. The movie Hereditary. I heard someone recap on
a podcast and I had nightmares for days.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I don't even like hearing. I mean I love hearing.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
There's like the sick part of me that's like, tell
me what happens, but then I'll never.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Forget it is scary.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hang on.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, Well, one of the the only one that I've
actually like seen start to finish that really scared me
was The Peanut Butter Solution.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Have you ever heard of this movie?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's like a French Canadian movie from the early eighties,
and a little boy goes into a he's like, as
far as I remember, he's walking to school and there's
this like old abandoned house and he goes in it
and there's ghosts inside and they scare thems so bad
that he loses all his hair and so he's like
completely bald and everyone's making fun of him at school,

(33:16):
and so he goes back into the haunted house and
the ghosts are like, this is how you grow the
hair back. You make the peanut butter solution. Here's the recipe.
It's mostly peanut butter. Spoiler alert. Then he puts it
on his head and they say, put it on your
head and go to sleep. And then he wakes up
in the morning and his hair is starting to grow
and he's like, hurry, my hair is growing back. But
then it won't stop growing and it grows out and
out and out.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
He's sitting in the classroom and it's growing like over
the desks of the other kids, and he has to
cut it all the time, and he just he can't
even live his life. And then his best friend is like,
what's up with you? And he's like, I did this
peanut butter solution, and the friend goes give me some
of that. The friend and this is these are eighties
children's movies, which is why this happened. That kid, these
kids are maybe fifth grade, puts it on his pubes
and then his pubes never stop growing. His pubes are

(33:57):
growing out at the bottom of his pant legs. In class,
the same way is his friend's hair is growing over
the other kid's desk, and he's like having to cut
his pubes through his jeans. And then he gets kidnapped
and the kidnapper makes paint brushes out of the hair
that never stops growing. He ties the kid to a
conveyor belt and they all chop off bits of his
hair and make these paintbrushes, and the kidnapper is making
a profit off of it. And then the children paint
a mural with the hair brushes and they escape through

(34:18):
the mural. What the peanut butter solution? This is a
film for children, Yes, in a film for children. There's
a bit way. What is a fifth grade? How it
is fifth grade?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I don't know. Like ten there was a.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Ten year old putting peanut butter solution on his pubes.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
We don't see him put it on his pubes. If
he goes, he gets kind of a cheeky look. Give
me some of that. And then later we see his
pubes growing out the bottom of his jeans.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
But the solution is to climb through a mural made
out of these pubes.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Well, the paint brushes are made out of pubes and hair,
and the mural has been painted by the other children
that have been kidnapped. Maybe it's magic, you know, Maybe
the hair is magic because it was grown with the
peanut butter solution. Therefore the mural comes to life and
they can go through it.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
The guy's in the house that the boy visits. What
kind of vibe they like? Chill?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
It's like, this is what was confusing to me. She
was a ghost, but she's like a lady in a
nice hat and a nice coat. She kind of reminds
me of like the pigeon lady from home.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Along classy, That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And we're just like meant to believe she's a ghost.
Guy's a classy, that's right. But they didn't put any
sort of filter on her that made her look see
through or anything.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
So he was just like an old lady.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
And he was like you're dead, right, and she was
like yeah, absolutely, wow.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I mean I still don't believe this film exists and
now I need to see it.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, you're watching, you love it?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
What is the film that you love. It's not critically acclaimed,
most people don't like it, but you love it unconditionally.
What is that?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I think I misunderstood the prompt for this because I
don't love this movie unconditionally. But you know the latest
year Evan Hanson. Did you see it?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I didn't see it. I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Have you seen the musical?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
I hadn't seen anything. I went in totally blind. In fact,
I couldn't believe they started singing.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
And then what I was crying?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I walked out and everyone was like, oh, that kid
looked way too old to be a high school But
I didn't notice.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I thought the singing was wonderful.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
And everyone was like, oh, some of the musical theater
I guess musical theater people were upset about it, and
they didn't like that Julianne Moore was in it and
she was singing because she's not a Broadway person.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But I found it lovely. I wasn't anyone saying.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Can we talk about the thing that I think is
very funny and interesting and I'm so fascinated by You know,
do you know this that every musical that has come
out for the last every musical film, the trailers pretend
it's not a musical. They never show anyone singing because
they're scared it will put people off. So when Sweeney
Todd came out, the trailer was lots of shots of

(36:47):
London and occasional what's that sweet eye? And then But
there's very little talking in Sweeney Todd, so they couldn't
so they just got music in the background. It looks sweety.
It's like, oh, lots of that yea, yeah, you don't
see anyone singing. And they're trying to trick people because
they think if people know it's the musicals, they won't
go and see it Wicked. Wicked, which is one of
the biggest Broadway musicals of all time ever, they've done

(37:10):
this trailer where they don't show singing, as if we're
maybe that's not a musical. I think people know Wicked
is a musical. It's also a huge successful musical. I'm
fascinated by these really long trailers they've done where they're
pretending it's starts a musical. No one sings in the trailer.
It's all background noise and like, we're going to see
the Wizard.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Well, I guess because they're getting double demos, right, because
everyone who knows Wicked knows it's going to be a musical,
and they're excited about it, and they're going to go
see it because it's musical, and everyone who doesn't know
needs to be tricked into thinking it's a regular movie,
so then they can double donkey dip they get everybody.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, I guess so, I guess that's the thinking behind it.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
But I didn't see I didn't even see a trailer
for Derevan Hanson. I love to go in blind, Blind, Blind.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I've got to watch that trailer. I bet there's no
singing in it, or if there is, that isn't. That's
why it didn't make three hundred million, But people do.
I don't understand it. People like going and see musicals,
but they don't like seeing them at the cinema.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't like musicals.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Really, you love Dear Evan Hanson?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I did you know why?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Because even with the old man playing a teenage.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I guess I was just like so shocked. I find that.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Maybe I like a modern musical because it was it
felt like a modern telling of a story, which I
feel like old musicals are kind of like I'm the
man who shit in the chair. I'm like, shut the
fuck up, like it doesn't mean anything to me, whecause
I feel like, oh, dear Evan hanss is like the
songs were propelling the plot forward.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
They were like part of it, and I'd never heard
them before.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
You're musical about a man who sits in a chair
here ghost probably? Yeah, what is the film that you
used to love? And then you've watched it recently and
you've got oh, no, I don't like this anymore, perhaps
because you've changed.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, I remember the movie Just Friends with Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, well,
I don't think my brain was fully formed when that was.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
My favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It was your favorite.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, yeah, there was a time my sister and
I were really into it. And you know you have siblings.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I have a sister. I love her very much.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
And did you guys? Are you guys close in age?
She's two years older, same as mine. Maybe wait, we
have the same sister.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
What's the name?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Say? One?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Two three? Miranda?

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Your's the name Deranda?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Miranda?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, what's yours called?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
But it's Deranda. It's spelled am I A d A.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
That's Miranda.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Did you say Deranda and then spell Miranda. What's your
sister name?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
D I R A N d A d I and
d A I are Dernda. What's your sister's name?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Miranda?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yes, go and tell me, oh but oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
All I was going to say is that when you
you know, when you're growing up and with your sibling
and there's a movie that you guys like and it
becomes us, like you feed off of each other. You
start quoting the movie and the movie comes something that
it shouldn't be. And that was just friends for my
sister and I. We just watched it too many times
and then kind of like ramped it up and then
we started speaking to each other and only quotes the movie.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
But it's not Ryan Reynolds. I'd love to work with you.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I'm open to working with you, brother, but that movie
is not good.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
And also it's based on like just basically a fat
phobic joke of like, oh he's fat now and that's
so funny.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know, there's a lot of movies like that that.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yes, bench warmers, lots of stuff is like inappropriate, which
I can't believe we didn't notice back then.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Confusing, confusing, confusing, what is the film that means the
most to you. Not necessarily the film itself is good,
but the experience you had seeing it will always make
it meaningful to you.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
A movie that I always remember from how I watched
it was I tried to watch when I was in
I don't know, I was too young, but I had
to watch The Grudge with like a group of you know,
I think we were maybe just started middle school, and
some parents dropped us off, and everybody was trying to
watch it, and we were bought tickets to a different
movie and tried to get into the older one. And

(41:13):
I knew I wasn't good. I knew I couldn't handle it,
and so everybody got their popcorn and I stood in
like the little aisle before you go in to actually
watch it. Yeah, because in my mind I was like,
maybe I'll just watch it from here, like I couldn't
even bear to sit my ass in a seat. And
then the first scary thing happened, which I think is
in the first twenty seconds of that movie.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
There's like a little jump scare.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
And I tried to run and I fell, I spilled
my popword everywhere.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
And I ran out of the theater.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
And then I went and watched Alone, the movie that
we had originally purchased the tickets for, which was Polar Express,
while all my friends were watching The Grudge. So when
I see that movie now, or if I hear of it,
I you know, I am filled with the Christmas spirit
and also scary. Well, I guess because they had the
eyeballs that weren't quite tracking. That was the big problem

(41:59):
with that movie, right, Yeah, but it was a better
alternative than The Grudge.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
What did you say to your friends afterwards?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Wow, fucking crazy movie.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
It was Actually, if you didn't see me, I was
in the bathroom having sex.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Probably What is the film you most relate to?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I guess when I was a kid, when I saw
Home Alone, I related to Kevin McAllister. But in different
seasons of my life. It's meant different things, Like, you know,
when I was a kid, I was like, I'm tough
like him, and I could beat a burglar like him.
But also I think there's like I'm the hated one
in my family, like I made my family disappear, and
also them being like there are fifteen people in this
house and you're the only one that has to make trouble.

(42:41):
You know, he's like he's a misunderstood kid, and he
has a bit of fun when he's on his own,
but at the end of the day, he just wants
his family back and he wants people to know he's
a good boy.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
God, you just won't even know you're a good boy.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
That's kind of all I want.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
It's like, sure, you know, maybe when you come over,
I crush up Christmas ornaments and when you step into
the window you hurt your feet, or yeah, I've used
some tar to stick some nails up on the stairs
to the basement. I swung a few paint cans around
once or twice. But at the end of the day,
I just want to give you a turtle dove and
show you that I believe in Christmas and family's everything.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
You are a good boy.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
What's the sexiest you've ever seen, Lisa?

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Let's see the sexiest sex scene that I ever remember?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Was?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Did you ever see the movie Taking Lives?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
And I'm afraid almost to say this out loud, because
I don't remember a single other thing in this movie
other than the sex scene.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yes, and Ethan Hawk, Yes, And that's a pretty steamy
sex scene, and I think after they have sex, she
finds out that he's actually the murderer she's been looking
for the whole time. I think she's like a detective
or something that's right. So that's kind of sexy, almost
even sexier that he was the murderer all along. And
I don't know why I like that. But then also

(43:53):
the movie Schako La, I remember that I really want
to like a deep kind of Johnny Depp phase in
my life, which also now doesn't hold up. But I
think I was in love with that in parts of
the Caribbean. And then I went back and watched all
of the Johnny Depp movies that I've ever been made,
and shock a lot was really cool because he was like,
I'm a river rat and I was like.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Go off.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
He was a man with a ponytail that was lived
on a raft on the river, and then we caun't
come in and meet a gorgeous woman who made him chocolate.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I don't know, is there anything sexier than that? I
can't think of it.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You like candies as well?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I love candies.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Imagine that I imagine your life with Johnny Depp, and
a light of candies makes you think isn't it.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Well, not anymore now that would kind of be like
a yeah, hell's gap not for you, don't for me anymore.
But if I was thirteen, I could have been perfect.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Sorry, Traveling Boner is worrying why Dunes film found a
rousing that you weren't sure you should?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Well, I told you about something yesterday that and it
now feels too vulnerable to say on the podcast, but
I showed you a picture of something yesterday.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Remember yesterday you showed me a picture.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Remember I showed you a picture of something animated? Oh yeah, okay,
so that was that's probably a troubling time. But something
more relatable is John Voight and Anaconda, when I was
like a little girl. For some reason, he's disgusting in
that movie, and I was like, my good fuck.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Hum. I don't know why you have to tell people
what the animated picture was, because they were gonna be listening, going,
what what was the animated picture? Oh? But I don't
want to say it's I think it's such a good
to be fair, it's such a I think it's very
relatable and I think people will be like, oh, yeah,
me too. I think it makes you more human. But

(45:34):
we can cut it. But I truly think you were right.
I wouldn't set you up.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Okay, okay, it's a it's a it's a tree with
tits on the last under. Yeah, so those were my
I guess those are my big two sexual awakenings John
Voight and Anaconda and True with tits in the last.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It's a whole spectrum.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You cover all the bases there. Also, trees are like
a wholesome.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
This tree wasn't she was nasty.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
But also the tree, ohsa, looks like a dick.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
If you that's interesting. You did point that out when
I showed it to you.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
You said it could be a upside down.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It is a dick.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, so it covers everything. Actually, that tree, that is
every tree of life.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Yeah, but we can't argue with the fact that that
the face and the voice of the of the tree
is an eighty five year old woman, which just complicates
it even further.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
It's everything. What is objectively, objectively the greatest film of
all time?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Hmmmm clueless?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I think it won Best Picture at
the Academy Awards. I think it did, or one at
least won something for cinematography.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
It's brilliant. It is the best version of Emma.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
And the performance that Alicia Silverstone cover.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, did you know she was forty eight in that movie.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
That's like she has such range that she was able
to play a high school girl.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
It's the sort of range that people weren't sure about
Evan Hanson.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, right, she pulled it off.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah, which I haven't seen, so I'm just being a
cheeky boy. What is the film that you could or
I have watched the most over and over again.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Well, I've watched Cluls a lot. Have you ever seen
The Family Stone? I watched that every Christmas and I'll
never ever get tired of that movie.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It's a wonderful movie.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
I watched it only last year because people always talk
about it. What a strange you know, it was strange movie.
Well as in It's Everyone's It's sort of everyone's really
mean in it. It's a really strange, unusual film in
that you're sort of like, God, everyone's fucking horrible to
your lady in it?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Oh right, Sarah Jessica Parker.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, everyone's really mean. It's a very strange sort of
It has all the story of a normal kind of
family Homecoming film, but everyone's kind of horrible. You can't
work out if you're meant to be like team these people,
or you're like, why, what's so mean?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Oh, you're giving me kind of like a awakening about
this movie, the same as remember when people start talking
about how Love actually is a bad movie, and then
you start thinking critically about it and you can't enjoy
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh, I still enjoyed Family Stay, and it's kind of curious.
I think maybe it's real. I don't know. You tell
me you're the biggest fan of it. You've seen it
when I have, Well.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
I love I do love the family dynamic, and I
love how I love that ends happy and sad. It's
like the happiest saddest ending of a movie, which I
just find so juicy. And I love how many different
characters they are and how unique all the characters are
and they all have their own voices and their own
character game.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I love that. I love a movie that keeps me
on my toest.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
We check in with these people, and then we check
in with these people.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, you like an ensemble, I like it ensemble. I
always have love an ensemble. What's the worst film you've
ever seen?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Basically, well, I know what you're trying to do is
we've already established you're trying to make me hurt my
career in front of you.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah so, But actually, honestly, I.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Like I am an optimist, and I really mostly enjoy
most of the things that I've seen. It's very common
for me to leave a movie with a group of
friends and have me go like that was awesome, and
that was the worst thing I've ever seen. So I
guess I'll say I will submit to this category a
movie that I made, which I made, I think in
eighth grade on a camp quarder that's in my closet
behind me, and it's on a little tape that I

(49:23):
still haven't like digitized. And it was a movie that
I made with two of my best friends. And it
was a horror movie where we got turned into porcelain dolls,
and we took my sister at a porcelain doll collection
and we took the dolls into the ravine in the
woods in the back of behind my house and took
the camera down there in like night vision try to
make kind of like a scary thing. We're like the
dolls they look just like us, and they didn't at all.

(49:45):
And it just ended with one of the girls in
the closet and she was like covered in ketchup like
it was blood, and she's going like one of those
like scary little waves at the camera as if like
she still was the porcelain doll, but she got turned
back into a woman. Anyways, it made no sense, and
I didn't know how to edit at the time, so
it had to just be shot live on the camera.
As soon as I called cut, we were repulling for
the next scene.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And we had one take at.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It that sounds terrifying and really good and I'd really
like to see it.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Okay, I'll try to get a digitized and then I
can maybe take it to Sundancer whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I think.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
You need to believe in yourself. That sounds brilliant.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'm glad we had this conversation because you're now going
to win Sundats, You're going to be the after Clueless.
You'll put the next film to win Best Picture.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Wait, or we could do Okay, this is what I'm
kind of dying to happen. Remember the movie Now and Then,
which I also love, by the way, which could be
an answer interchangeable with this.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
This is what I'm dying for. Let's take these girls.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
The girls now are the age that they were in
the older version of themselves, and let's reshoot those scenes
and plug them in.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
That's a fucking great idea.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Why aren't we doing that?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
And that's anyways, I could do this with this horror
movie because now we're the women in the future, and
we could stitch it together and have it be like
that was us in the past. We could accidentally do
like a whatever it's called, after Sunriser, Before Sunriser, Yeah,
is there a movie like that?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, before sunrise, before sunset, after midnight, before Monday, after midnight.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Before Monday, after Tuesday, before lunch, but after breakfast.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
See you in the morning. Lisa Gilroy, you've been absolutely wonderful. However,
when you were sixteen seventeen, you for a laugh put
on a Santa hat with a beard attached to it,
and your sister, for a joke, had put peanut butter
solution on the bed, and you walked around and were

(51:32):
you were doing a funny You were doing a song
Christmas Christmas, and you and your sister made you laugh
and said, look at your hair's grind. And you would
look down and your hair was grinding, graying gray gray
around the beard was graying, and you were like, oh,
my days. And you went ha ha. And as you
inhaled one of the long, now very long hairs from

(51:53):
the beard, which actually asbestos, went down your fright and
you're like, and it went down right at it wrapped
around your heart and it wrapped around, rap around, rap around,
like a ball of string, and then it squeezed your heart.
And your sister was like, oh and the hair keut
Grund kept ground, and she was like, she starts cutting
off bits of the air, trying to make a paintbres,
trying to make a mural so that you could jump

(52:14):
for it. Be like she's like, quick, jump through the mirror.
You're like, and then the hair's going around your lungs
and then it crushed. You're like, she's painted the mirror,
but she can't paint it fast enough. And then she
jumps through the mirror and she's like, Lisa, Lisa, and
you're dead, dead outside and I'm walking past with a coffin.
This is a long time ago, you know. I'm like

(52:35):
and I'm like, hey, and.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
You piss on my grave? What the hell? Why would
you say that.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
The hell? So?

Speaker 1 (52:43):
And I'm like, and I see your sister f you
a mirror and I go, oh, sorry, can I use
the bathroom? She says, I don't know where it is
on this side. I go, all right, I'll just piss
on us around it around and anyway. You're a mess.
There's so much hair, it's keeps growing, this fucking sad
to hair. So much hair, it's like a nightmare. Said,
can you come back through them through the mirror, we

(53:05):
get some axes were chopping bitsyr hair, of chopping you up,
chopping up, chopping you up, put you in the coffin.
There's so much more of you than I was expecting
with all this hair. It's a nightmare, mamma to literally
fucking jam you in. I've got your sister, and I've
got your sister on going like can you stamp on it?
Like you're crushing grapes for wine, you know what I mean,
jumping all over your body trying to get it in.

(53:27):
I'm trying to get the lid on this fucking coffin.
Before I do, there's enough room for me to slide
one DVD into the side for you to take across
to the other side, and on the other side it's
movie night every night. What film are you taking to
show everyone in a bunk bed when you rolled over
close enough that you want to talk to them again,
they show them something? What film are you taking them
to show them? In the big bunk beds, the huge
bunk beds, the big bunk beds in heaven? What film

(53:49):
are you showing them now, Lisa Gilroy, go now, first
one meander, Missy wonderful.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
That was That's that was the hardest and scariest question
I've ever been asked. I forgot to think about that one,
and the question was so long. But you did a
beautiful job. You're a little mind free. That's what you
were working on this whole time, wasn't it. Sometimes you
were looking down and you were making the notes on
your note Patty, were concocting that whole little story, you
little free.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Oh No, I wasn't. I was just I was just texting,
leave me alone. I being Lisa Gilroy. What's a treat
you are? Tell everyone what to watch and listen and
look out for in the coming months.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Interior Chinatown Hulu November nineteenth, which probably already happened.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Is in the past now or is this live? Okay?
It was it was last week. Yep. Give that a watch.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
And if you're in Boston, New York or Washington on
the twenty first to the twenty fourth, I'm on tour
with Dinosaur Improv, Paul Sheer, Jason Manzukus, Robert Egle.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
All Me and my boys.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
W that's exciting.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Tickets at Posture dot com slash Dinosaur Fun.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Lisa, you're very good at parties and you're very good
at podcasts. Thank you for doing this. I have a
wonderful death. Good day to you.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Thanks for having me Brett, I have a wonderful life.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Thank you. Good night. That was episode three hundred and
twenty six. Howevers to the Patreon at Patreon dot com
Forward last Brett Girls team for the extra fifteen minutes
of chat, secrets and video with Lisa. Go to Apple Podcasts.
Give us a five star rating. We'll right about the film.
It means most of you and Wice's lovely things reading
my nahbor MOREE loves it. Thank you very much to
Lisa for giving me her time. Watch her show Interior

(55:36):
Chinatown on Hulu. Thanks to Scribiu's Pitt for the Distraction
Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks
to iHeartMedia and wil Ferrell's Big Money Players Network posting it.
Thanks Adam Richardson for the graphics and Needs Landing for photography.
Come and join me next week for another incredible guest.
That is it for now. Thank you all for listening.
I hope you're all well and in the meantime, have
a lovely week and please, now more than ever, be

(55:58):
excellent to each others.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Back back back backs a sack bysack back backs

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Back fast back back backs by bus back fast back
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