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Join your host Brett Goldstein as he talks life, death, love and the universe with the hilarious comic LIZA TREYGER!

Liza is not only incredibly funny and fun but also a really great hang, which makes this episode a real treat from start to end. You may have seen her Netflix special 'Night Owl' by now, or heard the podcast 'That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast', but if not you'll soon be making those searches and adding said items to your watch and want lists. From living the idyllic New York life, to standup and process, to filming the special, to her trinkets and stickers collection, we have a lot to enjoy right here and it is a ray of sunshine upon you whatever weather you're looking at. Enjoy and find more in the links below!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, it's only films to be bettered with Hello, and
welcome to films to be buried with. My name is
Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer, a director,

(00:20):
a piece of cake, and I love films. As Danielle
Laporte once said, every choice we make is a creative act,
which is why when Richard Linklater chooses to end before
sunset where he does, he leaves us with the creative
act of continuing the story until he can be bothered
to get around to before midnight. What a guy. Every
week I invite a special guest over. I tell them

(00:41):
they've died. Then I get them to discuss their life
through the films that meant the most of them. Previous
guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone, and even
Flood Flamboles. But this week we have the brilliant actor,
comedian and podcaster it's a Lisa Traeger. All episodes of
Shrinking Season one and two are now available on Apple TV.
Get caught up on the whole show your fucking love,
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(01:02):
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Lash Brett Goldstein. So Lisa Traeger. Lisa Traeger was named
one of Variety's Top ten comics to Watch. She's got
a brand new special called Nightow, which is available on
Netflix now. She's brilliant, She's so funny. I hadn't seen

(01:25):
her in the years. We recorded this on Zoom recently.
It was very nice to hang out with her, and
I really think you're gonna love this one. So that
is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy
episode three hundred and thirty nine of Films to be
Buried With. Hello, and welcome to Films to be Buried With.

(01:52):
It is I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today
by an actor, a writer, a podcaster, a degen, a
comedy centraller, a comedy seller, a just for laugher, a hero,
a legend, and one of the great stand ups of
this world. Please welcome to the show. I can't believe

(02:14):
she's here, but she is. I'm lucky, right, Welcome it's
Lisa Drager.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Wow, I'm blushing.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
What an intro?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh, I shouldn't talk into the mic. What an intro?
That was incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thank you, thank you, No, thank you, thank you for
doing this. It's lovely to see you.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
I've been waiting to talk to you. I know.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's an honor. You have such cool people coming on.
This is like my dream podcast. But I wanted to
let you know. I don't know if you know that.
You probably do, but there's a store in my neighborhood
that sells stickers of you what like they have like
I buy Taylor Swift stickers and Britney Spears stickers, and
you're like in the bin with all the pop girlies.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Me and a load of pop girlies in a bin. Yeah,
I don't hate the sound of that. What am I
doing in these stickers? Can you do an impression?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, it's like you and your like workoutfit from Ted Lasso.
You know, it's like it's yeah, you know, that's what
it is. I can't do an impression. It's just a sticker.
I should have bought it. I should have bought it. Honestly,
it's three ninety nine. I should have bought it.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I could have shown it for fucking okay. Yeah, they're
stickers though they're good quality good.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I have like a lot of stickers. I should have
bought yours. Now that I see, I see how many
stickers I have. It's rooted in by yours.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It is weird now.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
But like here's my tailor swift sticker.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Those of you can't see this.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's a lot of stickers, so this is fine to
be three ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, that's lovely.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Like three ninety nine makes sense.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So like I like if it's an artistic like sticker,
three ninety nine is an okay price?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
What's your plan? Mybility stickers? You've got a books where
there go in?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So thanks for asking.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So I have like this three level metal trolley thing
with beads, crafts, games, So I cover that stickers, laptop phones.
When I send letters and cards, I close the envelopes
with cute stickers.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
In behind you, those of you can see the vida.
There's cupbets empty of stickness, absolute zero stickers on these cupboards.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Bad you can't put it on cupboards? Are you kidding?
But look at my fridge, like look at like so
much fun I like fun.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh yeah, the fridge is fun. The fridge is happening
so serious. I'm confused. I'm walking around your place like Jesus,
she's so serious. Oh I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Look at the fridge, even with that mister potato had
cookie jar.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You think this as serious.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But the mister potato cookie, he's on his own. He
looks forlorn.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
So cute, so cute. Yeah, I have an unhealthy attachment
to things.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Now you're in New York, you're out, Yeah, being the
queen of stand up. Tell me how it's going.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's a dream. I moved back to New York. It'll
be a year in February, so it's like been a
year back, and I feel like my life exploded with
positivity outside of like the fascism and like the looming disaster,
but like personally, like I was just living my full fantasy,
like grateful as fuck, skipping down my little stoop in
my East Village apartment. Like my coffee shop gives me

(05:00):
free coffees. They know what's up, Like it's I just
I walk to the cellar, I walk to all my spots,
and I go over the bridge and I look at
the skyline and I go, are.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
You fucking kidding me? Yeah, that's how I feel all
the time.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Ye's great.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, it feels cool because this is cupboards. But here
what you don't see is exposed brick.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh god, there's so much going on in one room.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I only have this one room and then about room.
You know, it's New York baby, it's all the parts
of you.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And if you hear a lot of bangg that's the radiator.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Okay. Oh yeah, and how you're at the cellar a lot.
I always see clips of you at the cellar.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And the sort of dream of a New York stand
up life is that you're doing like seven gigs a night.
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, like during the holiday, Like I'll have weeks where
I'm doing five to eight on a weekend night, I'm
really running around. But like I'm also okay to have
one a night or three a nights, you know what
I mean, And I take a couple of nights off.
I think that's important to like live. You don't want
to just be in the same places with the same
people all the time time, Like you got to go
to the bar, you gotta like you gotta roam around

(06:03):
you got to be social too, but yeah, I don't
do less than ten and a week, okay, and then
I'm on the road.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
When did your last special come out? It was quite recent.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I never had one. I had half hours. I've never
had an hour. This is my first hour special. That's
why I'm like promoting. I'm so excited. It's on Netflix
and it's called night Owl January twenty eighth.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Oh, when's it out? Twenty eighth?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, no, I don't. I'm not mad at you at all.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It will come out next week. I was like, I'm
saying I hadn't seen it, but that's it's not out
when we've recorded this.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, it's not even out. Yeah, I'm gonna have a
big party on Tuesday. I'm excited. When did you film
it in New York? At the Village Underground, which is
one of the seller rooms. It's like around the corner,
it's like two hundred and fifty, but with all the equipment,
we probably got like a little over two hundred people
in there. And it's how I like to perform. I
don't want to pretend I perform in theaters.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, So how many times did you film it too?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I did an eight and a ten, and we use
the ten.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'm about to record my first special and I've not
had this experience.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
My question is when you recording that you want advice.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You want advice, Yeah, give me advice. How are you?
Are you in your head a lot going oh fuck?
Is this one's being filmed.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm gonna give you the best advice honestly because of
my half hours. You know, you learn lessons with every experience. Yeah,
I didn't write a set list. I knew my closer
and like kind of how I open, but both shows
are different. I didn't write a set list because that's
not how I perform. There's like a little bit of
audience shit, like I wanted it to be not a pageant,
but like how I perform, and so it's I wasn't

(07:30):
in my head at all, and I was ready. I've
been doing this fifteen years. I was like ready, But
this is good advice. It's a reward, not a test.
Nice You're not there to prove anything. This is your party,
Like this is like the fun night of your work.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Like enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And then I would say you could do anything in
the edit, so like be in the moment, acknowledge everything.
You can cut anything out if like you flub be
like I'm gonna take it back like nothing matters because.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
You have the edit.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And yeah, like have a good time, good advice, and
dress nice obviously hire a stylust like look nice. Oh
but and then this is advice that I heard on
someone else's podcast. This has nothing to do with me,
but since I'm assuming you're doing a big venue theater,
the advice I heard on a podcast once was get
them to turn on the air conditioning the night before

(08:19):
because they remember sweating. They remember because they turned it
on day. I don't know if it's winter or like
when you're doing it, but they just said that they
were like so sweaty because the lights in the air
hadn't kicked off.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
So if you can get them to turn it on
the night before.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Good advice, that is legit good advice.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and hire people that are like good like director,
like everyone like hire like trust everyone. I just knew
everyone was on top of their shit. And I also
hired my best friend as like a producer, and so
she also was able to like everything was handled. They
trusted everyone so much that like all I had to
do is you know, be funny.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I appreciate you using your time to give me advice.
I'm not going to dress up though.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
You don't have to.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't mean dress up, but like I don't know
how you're living, but like if you wear T shirt
and jeans, were the best T shirt and jeans? Right,
not like put on a show, but like elevate a little,
like get a new pair of sneakers, get a Gucci loafer,
like you know, kind of like look the best of
how you dress, not like be different.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I appreciate it. So I'm curious you did it
eight o'clock, you did the ten o'club? You use the
ten o'clock. When you finished the eight o'clock, we like
that went great and then ten went better? Or when
you finished the eight, you're like, I don't think we're
going to use that one. Did you put more pressure
on the ten?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, I'll tell you what. The eight o'clock was like solid.
I got everything in. I did my suck like it
was like solid usable. I would have been fine, but
then I felt good. I had it, and then I
had a Teeto's soda and then I went on and
just like just let loose. So then of course it's
better because I already knew I had it.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's great, very happy for you. I'm very excited about
your special comedy.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I'm happy for yours. It's exciting. It's so vulnerable too.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It is like just like an hour of you, and
it is like vulnerable to share.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You know, it is funny, it is it is vulnerable
to share. Yeah, it's fine in the room, right, It's
it's more than it guys out to people that aren't
in the room. That's that's the vulnerable bit. I think.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, it's like you're open because you know, we all
were opening ourselves up what we think is funny whatever,
and then you want external validation.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But with that comes not that or I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's like everything that I'm nervous about I have no
control over and it's all just like extra stuff like
how will it be received or whatever? But like I'm
happy with what I put out, So it's like that's
how I have to think.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's great. How is your experience with your half hour?
Once it was out?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Fun? You know what?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Like every single thing in my career, I've always been
like this is it and it's never it like it's
just like a series is a fun but like I
always you know, in the moment, it's like it was
the biggest thing in my life, a Comedy Central half hour.
It's what I've always wanted. So it's like these moments
feel cool, your names in the back, Like I just
really I like it.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I like doing it. It's so fun.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
And then with my degenerates, I hated the makeup and
hair guy.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
He really fucked me up. I wasn't in the moment
like I learned. I learned.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I mean it's it's good, Like I like my jokes,
like it is what it is. But like everything that
went wrong is helped me make my hour what it
was supposed to be, because like I made a lot
of mistakes and a lot of it is like making
myself perform not how I like. So it's like I
had a teleprompter with my set list and you have
to like write it out, and there were all these
things happening, and.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, you know what.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
One time I performed at a giant venue, but I
didn't know it was going to be giant. It was
part of a festival, and then it was an arena
and I was like, what the fuck? And I was
like flor Frazzle. I was kind of partying. I was
younger and so a Parna Do you know Parna non Charlot.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, So she.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Was there and she gave me the best of She
goes just act like you're at the cellar, and I
was like clocked in, And I wish I had that thought.
When I did my Degenerates half hour. I wasn't in
the moment. I didn't interact with the crowd like I
wanted to, Like, I just wasn't myself and I was
nervous and it showed for me. Yeah, and I hated
my hair and makeup. But my proudest thing of that

(12:20):
half hour is, like I do talk about like gender
shit fucking, And I know a lot of women come
up to me and say they show dudes my special
and if the dude doesn't like it or laugh, they
don't fuck him and they don't want to date this person.
So I'm like a litmus test for a lot of women,
and like people break up after my shows and stuff,
Like I think I irk certain men and I'm like

(12:41):
helping women not like fuck these losers a.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Lot of time. This is great. This is a real
fucking service you're providing.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Hell, yeah, yeah, it's a cool thing. We do cool things.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It is cool. And how much do you because I've
seen you and you're very live, and I like how
much you mess around? How often are you doing the
same stuff? Like do you have solid stuff that you're
that's always in.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Your Now it's all done, you know, once it's out,
it's done.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I don't do it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So like I've been like saying bye to my jokes,
you know, like I've been doing a couple of my
favorites and then I'm working on the New Hour because
then I'm like hitting the road and so like i
want a full new hour. So I'm like kind of
there some stories. It's not like when I'm on the
road and I mix new and old, it's like the
old just gets such better laughs. You know, it's like
it's hard. It's like you're in this early stage where

(13:30):
shit's funny, but like you know, it's it's the word,
it's like the fun it's the grind.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, all right, Lisa, Yes, I've forgotten to tell you somebody.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well I have a question about the podcast too. Yeah,
So I don't know if this is like a peek
behind the curtain. But you know, you get all the
questions and then at the end you have this list
of movies that's like please, for the love of God.
You know these these are said too often, and I'm
curious about one of them. I wasn't expecting it. What
is the Robin hood Disney? Is it because people want
to fuck the fox? Or like what what is.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, it's easily that. It's easily people. Yeah, one of
the Foxes.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, okay, cool, all right, that's what I listen.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
That list has been on those questions a long time.
So if you want to talk about fucking a fox,
you can.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I'm not no, no, no, that's like basic, like we
all want to fuck that fox, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah. It's like being like I think Pam Anderson was
hot in Baywatch.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's like, yeah, liked Marian and Robinette is really fair.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's like basic. I also like the Snake.
I think the Snake is like jolly and fun.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you want to fuck the snake? And Robin?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I like how goofy he is. I mean he's part
of the monarchy. So like, no, because you know, kill
the rich.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
But Lisa yeah, I did forget to tell you something
at the beginning. I should have told you what, You're dead?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Oh yeah, this okay, you scared me. You scared me.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
You've died. You're dead, dead dead? How did you die?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So? I don't want to be disrespectful right off the gate,
but I don't play around with these types of things.
I come from a very super dish's family. We don't
lie about our health. We don't premonition this stuff. So
that's not what I'm going to talk about. But I
don't want to be fully disrespectful, so.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I came prepared.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I could tell you, like my number one way I
don't want to die, if that, if that fulfills this
for you, But like I can't like do this question
from my mind.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, I understand that if it helps you, well
I would. I would like to hear the way you
don't want to die, and then I might maybe make
you feel better.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
But let's see, the number one fear I have is
like being trapped in like a man's basement for decades,
being like tortured.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
We're just like kidnapped in a room. Torture. Not being
able to.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Leave like that to me is like a fear. I
don't want to die that way.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, I can understand that that sounds horrible. It's very long.
You've been there for years. Are you dying of like
sort of starvation or just sort of general milaizing.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It depends, I mean, honestly from the torture or like
the person gets sick of you, murder zoo chops off
your head.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I don't know. You try to escape, like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Right, would it help you if I told you that?
The other way you could do this is talk about
your the dream way you'd like to die rather.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I mean I think the dream, not really, but I
feel being frozen. I feel being frozen is kind of
cool because I want to like feel the euphoria of
being frozen. Yeah, like you know, you kind of like
like a code plant, it's like d MT or something like.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
But I don't want to actually be frozen to death.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I want to die howeveryone you know in the chill, chill, chill,
lovely way without knowing.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
So you've chosen to be tortured to death many many,
many decades. Okay, do you worry about death?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
No? But it's always been looming.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I've had older parents always so it's like I always
think that it's like the final day. My mom fucking
texted me today going something is wrong, and my heart sank,
and it was there she couldn't log into the Netflix.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I'm like, you dumb bitch.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm like, do you not get that you're seventy nine,
My father's eighty seven years old?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Something is wrong, fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
So I'm always like been like filled with this guilt
of like having these old parents.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And oh, oh my god, and you and I need child.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, but my sister's ten years older than me and
married young and like left the house young. So I
have only child vibes. And I understand that.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, I didn't mean it. I wasn't accusing you of anything.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I just meant, oh, I mean they say that my
sister wanted a sibling, but they were like slutty people.
It could have been maybe not planned. They weren't even married.
But I do want to say because of the film podcast.
So we came to America when I was like really young,
but we went to the movies from the former Soviet
Union present day Ukraine. But I steak Russia and we

(17:46):
went to the movies every single Friday, from nineteen ninety
four until I went to high school, so from like
first second grade, I know what movie I saw there.
I don't want to like ruin what's happening here? But
so like we went to the movie. I didn't got
no school dances, didn't have a social life. I truly
went to the and it's it was like the late

(18:08):
run one, like the movies came out like a few
months earlier, so it was like a dollar fifty ticket
and we went every single Friday.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
WHOA, that's so yeah. What do you think happens when
you die? Do you think there's enough to life?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I really hope, So, I really hope. So I want
a good time. I would love something special for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, they said, I go right, news, there is a
heaven and you are going. You are welcome there. They're
very excited, especially after all you've been through, with the
whole decades and decades of torture in the basement. I'm
very excited that your heaven and heaven is filled with
your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
My favorite thing? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Honestly, it's like trinkets, trinkets and toys. But if I'm
in heaven, I want like puppy like I want little animals.
I want baby cheetahs, like I want like a baby zoo.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But not so because it's heaven, but like it's free.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I want to just be like rubbing a baby elephant,
like I just want to be surrounded by little elephant
like animals, baby animals.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
And that's heaven is filled with baby animals. And everywhere
you look at baby other than you're rubbing them or
whatever you want to rub them. That's your business. It's heaven.
And there's trinkets. As you sit down and rink it,
you're playing with trinkets with little little teas and little panther.
There's a little panther over there, and those little little
fucking little what do you call them? War hogs are
there and everything. They're oh so cute. Anyway, they're all

(19:35):
delighted to see you, but they want to talk about
your life. They want to talk about it through film.
And the first thing they ask you is what is
the first film you remember seeing Lisa Trager.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So the first film is It's a Little Mermaid.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's the memory I see myself in my Chicago apartment
as a kid, and it's on the TV, like I
just Ursula the Eels, like I just that was.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
It my crush?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah yeah, I mean she's gorgeous for sure, and there's
just so much Flounder is so cute, like it's it's awesome.
I really I love it and it stood the test
of time, like I'll put it on like it's really
But I also have for the first film I remember
seeing in a movie theater too, but Free Willy. It

(20:22):
was a camp field trip, summer camp field trip. I
wanted it to be hocus Pocus, but it was Free Willy.
I remember like we didn't know what movie we were seeing.
It was like what are we going to see? But
I was happy with Free Willy. I do like Orcas.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, what is the film that made you cry the most?
Do you cry? And not?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Cry the most is hard because I think I feel
like I cry often. I'm a I get touched by stuff,
so like you.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Cry in life, Yeah, I'm teary eyed, like I get
over over cut, like when.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
People win Olympic medals, you know, like anything like that.
Like I I definitely cry at movies when you're supposed to.
But the most is hard, and it's like it's most recent,
but it's wicked. It's during defying gravity that is the
most sustained cry I've had for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Wow Yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Like chill's just thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like it really was everything I could have ever hoped for.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I cried it a lot. It's actually so fucking cute. Okay,
So we went after the day after Thanksgiving, so I
went with my mom and then my sister and my
niece canceled on us, but she's nineteen. She had a brunch,
and then my sister's husband's mom, so like the two
grandma's and then me and my sister and my mom

(21:43):
and the husband's mom wore pink, and then me and
my sister wore green, and I had like a green
bow and like sweat, Like I was dressed head to
toe and green and we took photos.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
It was cute.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
But since I was visiting, I was jam packing for Thanksgiving.
So then my sister was like her husbands outside, she goes,
get ready, they're outside. So I went met up with
my niece and nephews and we all went to the
Bulls game. So like that was really it was an
exciting day. Yeah, post Thanksgiving I just love her dream

(22:16):
and I know how hard they worked. Like usually when
I'm really into something, I like reading all the movie facts.
I want to know everything, and like when you just
think about like the years, the work, the hours, the rehearsal,
the training, the passion, the tulips, you know, it's like
it's all so much, and it culminates in the song
that I've been like singing since I saw Wicked on
a high school field trip, Wow with my theater like

(22:39):
the theater kids we all went.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I think Cintiarivo is channeling the Good Lord herself. I
think that her voice is the voice of Heaven. And
I think that Arianna Grande is the greatest comic performer
of our generation. I did not expect that.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I did.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I've seen her live. I took my niece for her
eighth grade graduation. But Ariana and ESNL always with the
impressions and Jimmy fallon all those games, like you knew
she had it.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
And I like her.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I like the theater kid coming out of her in
this really special way, and that nightgown when she's hanging
on the fucking chandelier and that nightcown.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I just like I can't it's so good.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
But I do have an old timey answer, and it's
like the movie that always makes me cry or like
thinking about it, I can't even is the Sex and
the City movie when it's New Year's and like Carrie
runs to Miranda because Miranda's lonely and sad and like
it's snowing in winter, and like the song is playing,
and like she's running to her friend to be a
good friend on New Year's And I love that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's nice. That's nice. Yeah, What is the film that
scared you the most? And do you like being scared?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Love it? Love it?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Love it, love it. Love roller coasters, bungee jumping.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
All of it.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
And I like horror movies and I just filmed a
comedy horror in this this the past summer. It was
my first like indie overnight shoots. It was incredible and
it got me on a kick. So now I've been
watching so much work because I had so much fun
doing that.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
What's the film? Tell us the film?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's called Damned if you do. And I really hope
it gets in a festival or a stream or something.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know, it's an indie movie. I don't know how
that works.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But it was star studied and fun and demonic and
like fun. Yeah, I really like it. And this was
hard because a lot of things scared. It's it's tough,
but I'm picking the movie. I have like a list, obviously,
I don't know how what's the usual for people, because
I was I was listening to the Joel kimbooster one
because he's a friend, and I was like, I couldn't

(24:35):
believe he didn't prepare and went with his gut. I
honestly had to turn it off. I was like, I
can't even fathom doing that. Like it.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
It freaks Yeah, people who don't prepare this listen. I
had someone on who clearly had hadn't done his own
work or knew what the podcast was, and he winged
it beautifully cool.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Not for a girl like me.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Let me tell you, not for this, because I love
movie games and all this, so I have a few
for this. The movie that like Legit scares me the
most because I can't watch it a second time. I
can watch everything again. I tried to rewatch it and
I was like I couldn't and it's it follows, It follows.
It scares the shit out of me, and I can't

(25:19):
watch it again, so we'll see. But high school, it
was a junior high but like going to the movies
with a bunch of friends, screamed, like the most I've
ever screamed is The Ring. But it's not scary to
me anymore, you know what I mean. But I remember
like like really having a movie going experience for The Ring.

(25:40):
And then yeah, I have a non horror scary movie too.
That scared me, Tully, that's it's so scary.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I guess it is night.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I can't imagine it really horrified me. I gotta do
an honorable two honorable mentions because ten Cloverfield Lane obviously
because you know, being trapped, and then Barbarian I watched
for the first time within the month. So I can't
believe a man wrote it. I have never seen a
movie encapsulate like a woman perspective and how annoying it
is to be a woman. When I saw written and

(26:17):
directed by a man, I can't even believe it. It was
so good. I have never felt so like, yes, this
is this is why it's so annoying to move in
the world as a woman.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
So that's my Those are my how do you feel
but as a kid, But as a kid kid, I
was scared of the hocus Pocus commercials because I hadn't
even seen it yet, and I thought they were going
to come out of the toilet and I was too
scared to flush the toilet, so I started peeing behind
my family couch because I thought the hocus Pocus switches
were going.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
To get me and I got in, you know, like
they weren't happy.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
But I have now a movie sized, framed, professionally framed
hocus Pocus in my bedroom.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's pretty cool. Yeah, what is the film that you love?
It is not critically acclaimed, most people don't like it.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You love it unconditionally, So thank you for asking this.
So I had a lot on this list, so I
didn't know what to do. So I went to Rotten
Tomatoes and I got the critic and the Tomato meter,
and I kind of went down the line. And so
there's options. There's like the lowest critic but highest thing,
and like, so I'm trying to figure out which one

(27:27):
is truly the worst. But I have to go with
this one because it's twenty six critic and thirty audience,
so both pretty low and it's the Stepford Wives with
Nicole Kidman.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And that is a king excellent answer.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Oh my god, thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That is such a good answer, and it has never
come up. That is a brilliant answer.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Matthew c Yeah, Brethday, Broderick, Glen Close, Yeah, Faith Hill.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's a really good answer.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah. And that's why when everyone was hating on like
don't worry Darling, I was like, oh, I like this genre.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm into.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
It feeds on a fear for me that I'm into.
But I love Nicole Kimen doing anything. But it's like
it is campy and fun and the wardrobe's fun and
it's like scary. I like when it's something scary, but
you know it'll be okay, like scary light you know,
like light crime.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
But it's good. Yeah, it's like good and funny and
I love that. Midler.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So why were you in prison at twenty?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh my god, that came out of nowhere. What a
little sicko. Okay.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I went to jail. I went to Oh I went
to jail three times. And it was all like drinking,
like being young, drunken, out of control, okay, and then
I like relaxed so by twenty one, I was like chilly,
but pre twenty one, I was just like out there raging, drinking,
partying and causing chaos.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Thank you, What is the film you used to love?
You loved it, and then you watched it recently and
you've gone, oh no, I don't feel the same way
about this anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
That's truly never happen to me.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I have one that because I wanted to answer,
that I love but it doesn't hold up societally. But
I don't mind.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Never never been kissed, like because the teacher and the
studays she's twenty five, but yeah she is a teen
and he's like into her. But so I guess that's uncomfortable,
but I love it and I don't care.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't know if I've turned on any movie that
I used to love, Like I kind of i'm into him.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear that, Lisa, when you
love something, you love it forever.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, yeah, I have, and it'll be down on the
list with like the worst movie. But there's two movies
that I hated as a teen that I like love
as an adult. So like I've switched in that capacity.
But even if something's bad or whatever, the one movie
I wanted it, I wish I had time to There's
a movie from my childhood that I loved that I've
never rewatched as an adult, and I wonder if it

(29:53):
holds up. Is Ace Ventura when Nature Calls right?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
The second one like I had that VHS.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I haven't watched it in twenty years, So maybe that
means it doesn't hold up because I don't watch it
all the time, because I watch things all the time
that I love from my past.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'd like to know what you think of that when
you go back, What is the film that means the
most to you. It might not be a good film,
but the experience you had seeing the film will always
make it important to you.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Some like it hot. That's that.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
So my mom like growing up in the Soviet Union,
like obviously poor, worked at a factory at a kid
as a teen, like tough life, stalin right, but like
she loved the movies, like the cinema is everything right,
and she saw it in the theater nine times, and
her and her friend would get front row because those
are cheaper, and they would sit in the front and
watch them like it hot and we and so when

(30:45):
we when I was growing up that we watched it
all the time. And it's set in Chicago and that's
where like we moved, so it's just everything.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
We grew up in a Marilyn Monroe house.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like I have a black and white photo of them
on set, and like, I just love it and it's
so funny and chic and everything.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I don't know, I just want to. I watch it
all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
And because it's black and white, it's cozy, Like I
feel cozy when I watch it too.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That's nice. I mean, it's also a fucking great film.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, and it's the only black and white movie I
think I watch.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
It is the only black white film he works, I think, so.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I don't know if I've seen one other.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I don't know if I've seen no. Yeah, it's Sunset
Boulevard black and white.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
It is.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I watched that on a plane, I remember, I don't.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, that's the one thing like I'm not like, subtitles
is really hard for me, black and white, old timy things,
like it's hard.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's okay. Yeah, what film do you relate to?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I have three?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Do you want me to like choose or what are
the rules, Like I feel like disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
You can say to three and then maybe I have
to pick one.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Okay, a game within a game, So I have Ghost Worlds,
Rome and Michelle's high school reunion and now and then oh.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
God, good good work on oh three, I want to
hear about now and then Okay, because it doesn't get
talked better now.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, I love it. It's also one that I could watch
over and over and over. It's like truly star studded.
But you know there's one girl that's chubby, and it's like, yeah,
it's like that's growing up. It was just like all
my friends were thin but would call each other fat
and then I was like, but looking back, I.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Was like a normal person.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I wish I knew like that I wasn't fat because
now I've gained all this weight and I'm like, yeah, damn,
I could have really enjoyed my youth more. But having
this like chubby girl was like I need a break
from the bike, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like but but at the end of.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
The day, like is a down friend and was there
for them, cared about them and like was down to fight,
was down to call out, was down to slap, but
like you know, like cookie and silly and not taken seriously,
but when shit hits the fan, like I will handle
a crisis for you. And I just related to that
and just friendships, summer riding bikes, adventure. I'm also a

(32:58):
crime girly, so like having this mystery to solve and
then also like witchy stuff like Janine Garofalo so fun,
but just like girls friendship and like, yeah, that was
that's basically it. I would say, Devin Sawa, so it
was just and all and all those and then the

(33:19):
chubby ones.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Actually not alive anymore. I don't know if you know this.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, but I feel like the I know, it's really
sad and I should not just call her the chubby
one since she's no longer with us. But but the
other ones are actresses that I like, like you know
what I mean, like Thora Birch and like Christina Ricci's
one of my favorites. Yeah, and then the Demi Moore

(33:47):
like I just Bonnie, like I keep just there's more
and more actors in it. It's like really just so good.
But I think it was summertime adventure. And you know what,
always I think about when Chloris Leachman's give them lemonade
and the ice hits the glass in this perfect way.
I think about that noise a few times a month,

(34:08):
like I'll like hear the ice or a glass and
be like, oh, it reminds me of that like drink.
I don't know that noise is ever like I love it.
Whoever did the foley on that on that ice? I'm obsessed.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I'm gonna give you homework, Lisa. What is it? You're
gonna have to watch The Last Picture Show? Okay, because
I think you're really gonna like it. It's got Clarence
Lesman in and it's black and white, and you need
to see one more black and white film before you die.
But I really think you're like this one. It's got
sex in it.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
I'm right now down.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Thanks, Lisa. That's your homework. Get back to me, all right, perfect.
What speaking of sex, what's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Lisa?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
I'm so excited, all right. So I have like as
a kid and then as like as like a teen,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
So it's like different you can.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Give me a very long list on this one.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You love it, Okay, God, Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
So as a kid, when I saw j Lee Curtis
strip do that sexy dance and true lies, it really
did kind of change my life. Like I don't know
what to say when she slipped back her hair and
started dancing.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, that really stood out for me.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yes, then like sexy wise, like kind of like in
Jawbreaker when Rose McGowan has the popsicle there's like a
popsicle sex scene like that to me was so hot,
like and I liked her like lingerie in it.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, wonderful choices.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Then I would say this is a combo because it's
because I had a crush on this actress. But but
I'm a cheerleader and the faculty and clear dval is
like that was everything like clearall and especially on that
makeout scene, and but I'm a cheerleader, like yeah, horny.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
For sure, for sure. And then the final one.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Is like I don't know, I feel the secretary for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Oh, secretary is do you tell me? We haven't told
about it? It's come up a lot, but not for
a while. I am always interested in Secretary seems to
be for women. Number one often often comes up. Yeah,
and I'm always curious, as what do you think the
secret of that film is that works so well, particularly

(36:11):
it seems for women. H do you have a theory.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well to go off of that too, Like you know,
porn Hub at the end of the year always as
analytics like Spotify and like gives what everyone is and
the results are always like the rough gang bang stuff
is watched by women.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's mostly women.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Men don't like straight, men don't like sing a lot
of dicks, and so it is this thing like I
don't know the true thing of it, but I think, yeah,
women want to be like dominated when it's like setting
feminism back, but like yeah, you want to get like fucked,
like you don't have rights but then have rights, and
so it's like I don't know, maybe it's because women
have to have everything all together all the time. But

(36:49):
also the hotness of it was like the discovery and
it wasn't like sex too.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah you never really see them. Fuck, I don't think
I think you're pretty right.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, like there's spanking and then that thing, but like
I don't think they fucked. So that's kind of cool
because I've sex and movies is tough because you know
there it's like hokey a lot, like people are just
coming right away, the noise that like it's it's never
that hot.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Really is that bad?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I mean, I don't know if I I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
If I answered the question.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm like trying to like think why Secretary makes all
these women so horny?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
But I'm also I'm trying to like look it up.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
But I have a long order SVU podcast, and so
we talk about like the episode of the True Crime.
Then we have an actor from the show come on,
and I'm forgetting who we talk to, but his wife
wrote the Secretary, and I brought it up to him.
I'm like, whoa, So your wife's like everything and he
goes the amount of women that come up to her.
It's like wild, like it is this thing where she

(37:50):
was young.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
A weird. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I really don't see what's your take because I'm babbling
without really saying anything.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Well, I think it it must tap into a universal
truth that has not been expressed well in cinema because
it really really seems to work because it is it's
weirdly specific, but also it's half like a fairy tale, and.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
It is because he's hot, Like he's a lot older
than her, in a position of power, like all of
the makings of like not good, but there is such
care he has for her.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, and she's very damaged. She's she's been self farming
and there's lots of real stuff going on in it,
but it's also growing something and then.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
She gets to live her like dream life at the
end too.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah, it's very happy.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, but the thing that takes it to the next
level with Secretary is like it's not even in the bedroom,
like he's controlling the way. Like that's like a full
life thing. And I wonder, Yeah, that was always a
little too much for me. But hot hot movie.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
There's a subcategory to this question.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
No, I'm like really embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Troubling, Boner is worrying. Why does what's the film? You
found a rousing? You weren't sure you shit, they said
try it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So I want to tell you, like I've been up.
I am like obsessed with these questions and I've been
I've probably made fifteen people answer all of these questions
in my life. Like I've been running around be like
do you guys want to answer these questions because they're
so good and fun. And I haven't told anyone this
because it's like it is embarrassing, right, but last night
I got so fucking hammered and we were all I was,

(39:29):
we were all doing this at the bar. I didn't
give anyone my answers though, but I like knowing everything,
and I am embarrassed. I'm like embarrassed, I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's well, then that's probably means that you've answering it
probably if you feel embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Of course, very sincere here. But they are both sex scenes,
but they're not supposed to be hot. But I was like,
what the fuck is going on and into them when
I saw them, and it's monsters, Ball halle Berry and
Billy Bob Thoron. Like that fuck scene is crazy? I mean,
or is it just hot hot?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
But it's like weird?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I think that's really hot hot?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Well it's not.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
She's like grieving her son, JUSTU it's just like it
is twisted.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
It's not like it's it's but it is just sex.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So yeah, but it's dark context.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, it's like gross.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
He's also gross, but like she's grieving and like the
way it's but it's hot.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Am I not doing very No?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I mean you're making me go. Oh, I guess I
should have been more troubled by that.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, I wasn't like I wouldn't like go to school
or anything, be like, oh my, did you guys watch
that hot fucking movie like we have to go like
Varsity Blues, Like I remember that right with like the
whip Creamer.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
It's like that's hot.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
We got to see it, right, Like I would never
tell anyone that. I wouldn't tell anyone like, oh, I'm
going to watch Monsters Ball again.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Right right, I should probably stop telling me, but I
go ahead next.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I like the It's like sad because like drug addiction
is bad and you if you are not financially secure,
you don't have like options whatever sex workers work. But
like the ask to ask requiem for a dream, I was,
I like, love it, God bless you. I told everyone
at the Barriostrada, but I don't know that people were

(41:08):
upset for me.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yeah, but it's I like it.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I liked it. It's close to the porn I watch.
I would say, so like I am into it. But
in the context of all of it, of course, so
bad both.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
You know, yeah, in the context of what's broad est
to that scene?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, sure, And I love what's his name? David David King?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
What's his name? Why can't I remember.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Keith David, David King and Keith David. I saw him
on a flight once and I was like, oh my god,
it's asked to ask and he was like with his daughter,
but like I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I actually I'm in.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I have a really really small part in Nope, so
we have I'm in the canon of Keith David.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
I'm so proud of you for your answers. Thank you,
thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, yeah, thank you for all these great questions.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Thank you. What is objectively the greatest film of all time?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Okay, so I did narrow it down to three? Do
you want to hear him or shuld I just pick one?
Or you do you want to do what we did
with the You give me the three?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I really like that.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Okay, Okay, Legally Blonde little Miss Sunshine kill Bill one
and two.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Oh oh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Like feeling so validated, but also to like lighten the
load of like the ass to ass in all of it.
I think the like The Rug from Aladdin is like
has a lot of charisma, and I think he's got
a lot to offer for not having like a face
or anything.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That's so true. It's what he does with the teslas,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's that he has a sense of humor, and I.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Think he's kind of you. You could do some damage
with those teslas, do you know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
No, I love the Rug. I love him great chat.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I'm picking little miss Sunshine.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
To me, that's when I cry. Are you fucking kidding me?
How I cry during that movie? That's actually probably where
I cry the most. But like just the flaws of
humanity and trying and like just in a van. I
also that was like Paul Dan Dano. It's Dano, but
that sounds weird. I like saying Dano, sorry everyone, Alan Arkin,

(43:23):
that was like my entry to him, like I wasn't
really familiar and so then it's just like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I love an Abigail.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Breslin, little cutie. I just Tony Kullet's one of my
favorite actresses. Like actually Muriel's weddings one that like I
remember seeing in the theater being like what the fuck?
Cause my parents, like we went to the movies every Friday,
but like they didn't, they didn't go, Oh, this isn't
for children. I saw casino on a Friday night, like
I saw he Like these people were taking me to
the craziest shit and so I don't know a little Missunshon.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's like heartwarming Steve Krrell.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
It's just like humans making it, like struggle, but like
making it. And it's like so light, like the sunshine,
like the yellow of the car, Like it's so light
looking too.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
It's so cute.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It's just so cute.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, and funny, like funny, underrated as funny as well, like.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm actually getting chills like it really like they all
just go through such pain and it is just still
so funny and light within all of it.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
The twist of her performance is very funny. We've spent
so long getting to this performance and then the performance
is so funny. Yes, it's funny, Yes, and it reminds
it reminds me of my works. Is special dad jokes
if you've seen it. It's such a big build up
to this ending, and there's kind of a twist at
the ending. She wants to ask her dad a question

(44:39):
and when she finally asks him, it's very funny.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh my god, I can't wait.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
I gotta watch it. Yeah, I gotta fucking watch it.
But also and it's like the suspense at the end,
like it's suspect. You're like, ah, you know, like it's
it's all the what you want, all of it, there's
all of it.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
It's everything.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's everything.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Was the first time, wasn't it the first time?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Steve Correll was like drama too, Like wasn't it Like
wasn't like ooh like that, Like I remember that being
and funny the dirty magazines that caught Like it's your right,
It's like, awesome, it's the best.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I'm glad you picked that one.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, it's a good choice from you. What is the
film you could or have? What's the most? Iver and
over again.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So this question's tough because like, to me, that's not
even like a high honor in my life because I
watched like the same movies over and over and over
all the time.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
They don't have to be good, Like I love.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Any like any teen comedy rom com or any female
led movie from nineteen ninety four to two thousand and five,
it's in the rotation baby, like twenty seven dresses. Sure,
I don't care, like I'll do it all congeniality, like
I just love watching Nodding Hill, Like, I'll watch it
all all the time. It's I have TV or movies
on constantly. I don't like it to be alone, so
but I am so lonely, so it's always on. And

(45:51):
another thing like I fly Delta all the time. There
was if I like a movie on Delta, I'll watch
it on every flight for like ten to fifteen flights.
There's like a few movies like that I've done, but
I have narrowed it down. One is like an old
timey like for me, I've loved this since I was
a child, and now it's become popular and I love
seeing it. But it is one of those things where
it's like I loved it first, but it's Death becomes Her.

(46:13):
I'm ready, baby, I love Death becomes Her all the time.
I can't wait to stand on Broadway. And then I
do have to say Mean Girls, Like Mean Girls is
probably like the best of the movies I rewatch over
and over and over. So I would say like death
becomes Her, and Mean Girls would be the top of
the line.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Fantastic, fantastic choices.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'm picking me and ghosts mean girls. Yeah, I mean,
I love it. It's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
What is the worst film I've ever seen? The said,
don't be too negative, please.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Okay, I'm going with Barbie. Barbie is the worst movie
I've ever fucking seen. I hate it. I hate it right.
I actually came up with that answer last night while
I was in a full blackout and like today, after
soulsch I go, wait, I think I changed one of
my answers. I'm like, what did I do? And I
opened my phone and I scrolled and I went, yeah, yeah.

(47:04):
But before I get into it, I'll tell you the
two movies that I hated as a kid but I
love as an adult.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Or there will be blood and Sideways.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Oh wow, fucking amazing film.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I know.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
But as a teen you're watching these men and you're like,
what going on?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
In ten years You're gonna be like Bobby's brilliant?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
No, absolutely not, and I can't.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Okay, So one, if you have like voiceover and a
ghost and a monologue, you have a bad movie, bitch,
you know what I mean? Like, you can't have all
of those devices that means you don't know how to
tell a story to have her explain everything. Then the
real pearlman goes to explain everything and then also have
this speech. It's like, why don't you just tell a

(47:42):
movie like show a movie? Second, why can't we have
a movie about Barbie having fun? Where's Skipper? This was
a movie about men and the patriarchy. And why is
Barbie crying? And it's because Noah Bombat got fucking involved
when I saw his name come up. The moment I
and I went Friday at eleven am. I was wearing
head to toepink, I had a scrunchye, I had a

(48:04):
purple clear purse. I bought the merch from the popcorn area,
the concessions. I was like ah, And throughout it, my
posture just was changing and changing. But the moment I
saw him, and even in her press where she was like, oh,
this is for men too, why men don't think about that?
Men don't think, oh, well, women like this movie. They
don't give a fuck. We are side characters in men's lives.

(48:26):
We finally have Barbie, this beloved female figure.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Child free.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Barbie's child free, and you're gonna make a movie about
motherhood on a child free fucking icon and make it
about men in the patriarchy. Why does Will Ferrell have
more lines than President Barbie? Are you fucking kidding me?
It's like so bad. And the feminism was so bad,
like the fact that they tried to equate how Ken's

(48:51):
were treated or how women are treated in the world,
and it's equal.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
It's no, it's not.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I would love to be treated like a fucking Ken.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Are you kidding me? Though?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Rors of being a woman in the real world compared
to how Ken was treated in Barbieland, And then people
arguing with me being like, now it showed that, you know,
men are treated like women in the world, No, they're not.
Ken was taken care of, they were nice to him.
It the only crime Barbie had against Ken was she
didn't center her life around him, and that's that's the thing.
And so when she comes back to Barbieland and they

(49:23):
took the women's houses jobs, made them beer maids, and
then Barbie has to apologize to Ken for having a
girl's night, What the fuck are you equating?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Like, what are you even doing?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And the fact that anyone that's like hatefully even hated it.
It was all mostly white. It like was heteronormative as fuck.
And then you're telling me Barbie should leave a matriarchal
paradise instead of bringing women to it. She's gonna go
to the real world and go to a guynecologist. That's
the what you need a vagina to be a woman?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Like, are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
The joke was so stupid, Like, of all the pleasure
you can get from like a pussy, she's gonna go
to the fucking guynecologist and that's connected to womanhood. That
movie was a fucking sham. It's a sham. It was
a sham, and it was a disappointment to women everywhere.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I think, Liza, you're in comedy. What's the film that
made you laugh the most?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Why are you friends with everyone in it? Were you
in it? You know?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I know?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
It's like I.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Think about this all the time because I Tina Fey
was on Las Culturista's podcast and she said authenticity is
dangerous and expensive, right, and it's like, do you really
want to like talk shit about this thing? But it's like, honestly,
it was like a fuck you. I want a movie
where Barbie's having fun. Why can't it be like, wouldn't
it be cool if five barbies went to Earth and
like figured stuff out? Why did it have to be

(50:46):
about proving this thing? Made it for men, used music
for men. Music supervisor A man go fuck yourself. The
only solo musically was a man singing. It's like crazy
to me. It's like it's made me laugh the most. Yeah,
I'm gonna go because I would.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I would say, like a new movie.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I don't want this to be my answer, but theater
Camp made me laugh so much.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I laughed so hard and like it felt so good
to watch that in the movie theater.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
And I saw it in La so it's like filled
with like people that are little theater dorks.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
So it was really fun.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But I would say a memory I have, I would
say early, I don't know when Pineapple It was Pineapple
Express front row stoned as fuck, like me and a
group of people. We got high, high, high high and
see and we were late obviously, so we were in
the front and watching Pineapple Express with like everything.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I loved it, loved it.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
And then as a kid, I would say scary movie,
like when the Dick goes through the ear my friend's
dad that took us and I was like in seventh grade,
like I couldn't even believe what was happening, Like I
couldn't even believe it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Listen, Anna Farius is the Ariana Grande of spoof movies.
She deserves all the awards.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, what an actor, what an actor.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
So funny, never talked about enough as one of the
funniest actors we have. Anna Faris.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I'm with you, Lisa Traeger, you have been a absolute delight. However,
when you were kidnapped and kept in a man's basement
for a decade upon decade and slowly tortured, and let's
remind everyone that you didn't want to say how you die,
because you didn't want to put anything in the air,
and nonetheless you chose this. You were tortured for decade,

(52:36):
forty years of slow torture, mounnourishment, horrendous torture, forever and
ever and ever. And then at some point the man died.
He died upstairs while you were in the basement, and
so you were left locked in the basement. And so
you also had your dream death because it got so
cold that you eventually froze to death in the basement

(52:58):
you had been tortured in, and you had the euphoria
of full freeze. I'm walking around with a coffin, you
know what I'm like, And I'm like, what's going on
in that house? Seems quiet in that house. I knock
on the door. No one's in. I kick down the door.
There's a dead man now and like what, I go,
where's hang on? And I go open up the basement,
Open up the basement, and there are you, frozen, a

(53:20):
frozen corpse, forty years of torture from the basement. I
go down now. I'm like, oh, bloody hell, she's very cold.
I get an axe, chop you up. You explode into
all these pieces. I get all the pieces of you.
I stuff you in this coffin. There's more of you
than I was expecting, what with all the freezing. It's
expanded you off. To stick you in the coffin, I
stuff you in. There's no room in this coffin. There's

(53:42):
only enough room for me to slip one DVD into
the side for you to take across to the other side.
And on the other side. It's movie night. Every night.
What film are you taking to show the baby animals
in heaven and you're sitting amongst your trinkets. What film
do you want to watch together when it is your
movie night? Lisa Treger So.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I actually already you know, not to be disrespectful, but
I have a caveat and I want it to be
a VHS.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
How do you feel? Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I've never done that before.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
But I respect to VHS.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
It's an integral part of my life because I had
the VHS to this movie and I watched it so
much the tape ripped, and then it was the holidays
and we're exchanging gifts and I open and I get
another VHS to the movie and I lose my fucking mind.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
And so that's why it's like an integral part.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Of this It is my favorite movie and it is
Big Business, and I will watch it forever and ever
my whole life. I love it. I love it. It's everything.
It's light. I feel good. The music. I hear so
many songs and I go, oh, big business, baby like
I love it and I can't wait to go to
the Plaza Hotel.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Twins two sets of twins switch to at birth.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah, yeah, I guess Bett Midler's a big part of
my existence. I love the outfits, I love the fun,
I love all their different personality, and I love all
the little side characters kookiness, like high jinks. But to me,
it's like full glamour and I can't wait to like
go to the Plaza hotel and order rooms and like

(55:11):
do it all up. But every time I see it,
I think of it. I think of that movie all
the time. I love it, love it fun.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Lisa Tiger, you really want to Oh yeah, let me plug.
Tell people all the things you would like to plug.
You can plug as much.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
As you like.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
My Netflix special Night Owl Is. It came out January
twenty eighth, So watch it. I want to be in
the top ten. And then I want to be in
the top ten. I want to be so cool. So
then I could, you know, be on Watch What Happens Live.
So I have a podcast called That's Messed Up, an
SVU podcast, and then on the internet, I'm at glitter Cheese.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
So do only the Patreons here my plug? Or can
you no?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
No, no, We're back in the We're back in the
real world. Now. Oh wow, everyone.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Is only the select few. This was a joy, Lisa.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Thank you for doing so much homework.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
See how many movies do you see?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Like?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
How do you know you've seen every single one of
the movies? I've said, and is that an experience with everyone?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I try my best, I don't you know. It's it's
the only thing I'd do that, isn't I try to
see all the movies. It's difficult, though, isn't it. But
I do my best. But I don't watch all the TV.
That's how I have space to watch the movies I'm
behind on old TV. Lisa. Yes, thank you for doing this,
Thank you for being so prepared, Thank you for being

(56:32):
so funny, thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
For creating I feel like you're like in terms of questionnaires,
this is on the level of like hot ones, Like
it's so fun.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Wow, no higher compliment, Lisa. I'm excited to see your
special Good luck to you. Thank you for everything, Dads
of love and have a wonderful day. Good day to you.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
So that was episode three hundred and thirty nine. Head
over to the patroon at patreon dot com Forward Saspect
lastening for the extra twenty minutes of chat Secrets and
Video with Lisa. Guys help a podcast, give us a
five star rating, but right about the film that means
the most of you and why. It's a lovely thing
to read and it helps numbers and we appreciate it.
Thank you so much to Lisa for giving me her time.
Thanks to Scrupius Pippen the distract some pieces of network.
Thanks to Buddy Peace for producing it. Thanks to iHeartMedia

(57:19):
and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network prizing it. Thanks
Ada Richardson for the graphics and needs to light them
for the photography. Come and jome me next week for
another cracking episode. But that's it for now. Thank you
very much for listening. I hope you're all well. In
the meantime, have a lovely week, and please, now more
than ever, be excellent to each others

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