Jordan Knight (NKOTB)

Bring Back the Time…Jordan Knight!

Do the New Kids on the Block have a group text?! What was the original name of the band (and when did they realize it was terrible)? 

Plus, honest answers to honest fan questions including…what does the future hold for New Kids on the Block (new music!)?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart
Radio podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host,
Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Me and my
hobby Turkey Turchi. Hello, and my mommy's here right now him. Hello, everybody.
We are in Mississippi. Um and it works. I came

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here because my my nephews in this group called Brio,
which is the big show choir in Brandon, Mississippi. Now,
if you know me, you know I come from the
choquar world. So I'm a proud, proud uncle. I came
from Attache, the number one choquar in the world, undisputed. Well,
now Brio, this group of Brandon and just the last
couple of years, have become a big group and their

(00:49):
competition my old groups. They're coming for you. And I
feel like I'm cheating a little bit because I was
at the Brio thing I introduced the group. You know,
my loyalties always with Outeche, but I got some loyalty
to Brio now because it's my family. Yeah. So it
was a great I mean, if you don't know show
choir and a lot of people think of it as glee.

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It angry, it is. It's way bigger vocal adrenaline. It's
like the Olympics of singing and dancing. Really, these teenagers,
how they come together and do this, it's nuts. It's
really surprised. I remember when I first went to my
first show choir competition. It was like, I don't know,
twelve years ago, maybe here in La and I was

(01:30):
just like, this is what a show quir It blew
me away and I was there for hours. It was
like a six hour competent. It's this subculture that no
one really has seen. It's like it's crazy. It's like
watching a bunch of Broadway musicals in a row, like
over and over again. It looked with dance moms mixed
with dance moms, yes, lots of them. And speaking of moms,
So when we moved to Clinton, you know, there was

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We didn't really do music except in church when we
were from but when we moved to Clinton, you know,
it was all about attache. Mom. When I joined show car,
did you know what that was or like, did you
expect it to be that professional? Well, when we first
moved there, we actually went to one of their performances
and I had never seen anything like that. It was
just amazing. I mean I was just stunned. So when

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you said you wanted to try out, I was excited
because I knew it was a great thing. Well I
knew I wasn't gonna be playing football, so show car
was definitely at But congratulations, brio, I've had an incredible year.
So there's this this kind of new trend going around
where people describe what they do for a job and
kind of the worst way possible in funny ways. So

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I'm going to describe a job, and I want to
see if y'all can figure out what this profession is.
All right, So here we go. I wait for people
to be shot and then I cut them. What profession
is at? Oh that's a physician, a surgeon, surgeon, I
mean it could be in a way. Yeah, they're anesthesia

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and then I cut them. Yeah, okay, I get that
that works, But in this one, it was a video editor. Oh,
wait for people to be shot and then I cut them. Okay, yeah,
all right, here's your last one out there. All right.
I make hot things cold and wet. I make hot
things cold and wet. Mom, what do you think that is?

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I don't know, it's a job. Peo will make things wet?
Who puts out fires? Firefighter? Yes, firefighter make hot things
cold and wet. So those are fun. So out there,
DMUs your job in the most vague way, because I
want to read some more of these in the future.
So DM must at at frosted tips and give us
your job description and I want to see if people

(03:44):
can guess it on the show. All right. Uh oh,
by the way, you know, speaking of like kids, what
is our generation or kids generation going to be called?
We're at gen Z? Now do we start over with
gen A? Does it? Does it go back to the
beginning of the alphabet? Skipped? Why? Because that was Are

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you a Jena? You're a Jena? Uh? But I'm interested
if there's already a name set up for them or
do you have to kind of live with this generation
before you kind of name them for them? Yeah? You
know generation stupid? I don't know like I don't if

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you know the generation name of our kids? D m us,
please across the tips. We get all of our information
from you guys. Thank you very much. All right, and
speaking of information, you sure told us you wanted to
hear from this guess that's coming up. We got the
man the myth a legend. Mister Jordan Night, that's right

(04:48):
coming up right after this, please, welcome to the show.
Jordan Nathaniel Marcel the Selle Knight is an American singer, songwriter,

(05:10):
an actor lead vocalist of the band New Kids on
the Block, which rose to fame in the late eighties nineties.
After New Kids on the Block split in ninety four,
he lost a solo career. The band reunited in two
thousand and seven. They have been releasing music ever since.
Jordan Knight, Welcome to Frosted Taps. Oh, hey, be here, man,
how much of that was wrong? By the way, I

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would you said an actor? I don't know if I'm
an actor? You've acted before? You have some credits by man?
I guess so here and there like uh, I guess
even being in videos is kind of ba is it is? Okay?
Right off the bat, you know within sync? We have
a group text? Right, do y'all have a group text
that y'all do? Yeah? Okay, it was just I was

(05:53):
just on it. Yeah, okay, text them right now. I
want I want to who do you think would be
the first to text you back? Out of all the
eyes Donnie, Okay, text right now. I want to see
if Donnie's the one and do something like obscure, be
like weird, like what the hell is something wrong? Jordan?
Who'd be the first text back? Um? God, my group

(06:15):
is just weird. It's never the same person that texts
back first. True. Yeah, i'd probably. I'm just gonna say,
I'm on a podcast with you right now, and when
we have bets on who is going to I don't
want to do a bet because then they're all going
to scramble. I just want to see who's gonna just

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say have a fun time. Tell him? I say, hello, No,
I'm waiting. Okay, all right, you let us know who does. Okay,
so let's get into this, Jordan, all right, new kids
on the block. I mean, take us back to the beginning,
because we had your brother on and he's like, I
don't remember anything from the early days. And I get
that because so many it's just my brain doesn't hold

(06:57):
a lot of the memories anymore. But I have a
feeling that you you'll know more. So tell us how
did the group get together? Um? And I gotta I
gotta know how your family felt about that, you know,
to their sons, you know, going off to do something
this big at such an early age. That couldn't have
been easy. But how did this all start? Um? I'd

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say my my family was really cool with it because
it was when we first started, it was very local,
so they were able to go to like the talent
shows and stuff like that, and they knew the other families, um,
because we all went to elementary school together and stuff
like that, so everybody knew each other, so everyone was cool.

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It wasn't like I was going to some me and
John were going to some distant land to pursue a dream,
you know. It was it was a local thing. Um,
how did it start? It started with um, Maury Starr
just being in Boston, our producer and uh he had
he produced new additions and they came out and they had,

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you know, big hits. And he was from the next
town over, Roxbury. Were from Dorchester. Joe can't Joe joined
the group a little later and he was in a
close neighborhood as well. Um but um, I guess somebody's
just texted who is it? Who is it? We should
have bet Joe Mac that's Joe? Is that? No? Joe

(08:30):
is using not the first one. He's close maybe a
close second though, he said, I saw that I'm gonna
listen to that one Miley Faith. Oh nice, Well we'll
have him on eventually. I'm you know, I spread out
the groups so that you know, we kind of get you.
You know, every two months, I get a new member
of New Kids, which is yeah, no, that's that's a
that's a good tactics. And I love it because since

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we started the show a couple of months ago, um,
I mean, it's been so much fun and the fandom's
all coming together, like the New Kids fans and the
InSync fans back New Edition all just kind of all together,
and you know, it's it's really fun. But you, my friend,
you know, we put out who do you want next?
And you're definitely the number one that everyone was trying
to get on the show. So yeah, all right, going

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back to the beginning, Okay, you're fourteen years old. Yeah,
you're starting as a group there. Um so yeah, so
so Maurice. So Maurice, like I guess him in the addition,
parted ways and Maurice wanted to start another group. Uh
maybe almost you know, for revenge. I don't know, but
he wanted to start a group that was like so

(09:35):
he was a little older, so his references were like
seventies groups, so like there was the Jackson five and
there was the Osman. So he wanted to greet the Osman.
Basically yeah, um, and uh he's you know. He started
kind of looking around, uh for young for young white
dudes with some souls. So uh. He had a woman

(09:59):
named Mary Alfred that he wanted to He wanted her
to be our manager. So she started looking in her neighborhood.
There was a park and where some teenagers hung out
and she heard this kid, Donnie that I liked to
wrap and he would put on shows in the park
and stuff like that. So, um, she approached him and

(10:20):
he was excited to join. He met Maurice, and then
because Donnie was now in the group, he started recruiting people. Um.
So we went to elementary school together. Our families knew
each other. Um, he knew I was a singer at
the time. We weren't going to the same school, but

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my brother was going to My brother Chris was going
to school with him. Um, and uh, my brother came
home one day and he was like, hey, Donnie wants
to talk to you about something something something about some group.
And I was like, okay, you know whatever. Um So
Donnie called me on the phone. You know, it's like
the rotary phone called me. We had like one in

(11:03):
the house, just talking about a rotary phone, right yeah,
yeah yeah, and right by the phone, we used to
write all the numbers in pencil on the wall, like
all the numbers of our friends and stuff like that.
So that's pretty funny. Uh So, so he called me
and he was like, yeah, yeah, this dude, Maurice, he
wants to start a group. Um you know, I know,

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you know you've sung in the church and sang in
the in the in the chorus at school and not
really like that. It's more of like, um, like a
pop group, like do addition. I was like, oh okay, here,
I said, yeah, you know, I'll go. He said, come
to Maurice's house. You know, he wants to hear your sing.

(11:47):
So um so he kind of recruited me. He brought
me to Maurice's house. Um, Maurice played a couple of
songs and he told me to sing a couple of
lines and the songs a couple of songs that he
was writing for this new group, um and so, so
he was like, yeah, I think you know, I think

(12:08):
you could do it. Yes, and I think you're you know,
you you got it, so um so. Uh then I
went home and I was like, hey, I'm in this
new group. You know, I told my mother and John
was like looking at me, he was like what what
what group is this? And he and I was like, yeah,
it's a new pop group, you know, blah blah. So

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John kind of was like, I want to like meet Maurice,
but you know, um so I brought him back. Next
time I went over, I brought him over and Maurice
was like, yeah, this is great. You know, two brothers
in the group. We liked that idea of how old
was he at the time. He was a year older
than me, so he might have been fifteen and a half.

(12:50):
I was fourteen. So and then, uh, I think Donnie
used leverage on Danny because Danny was Danny was resistant.
And then and then Donnie said, you know, Jordan joined
the group, and he was like Jordan joined, Um, okay,
I'm gonna join because we used to like I was like,

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I was in like this breakdance group that used to
like we used to challenge his breakdance group. No, oh
my gosh, like a fourteen year old, you're like challenging
breakdancing already dance battles. Yeah, so um he knew me
through that. Um. So he's like, yeah, you know, I'll
give it a shot. Um. And then at the time

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and then it was like maybe six or six months later,
a year or later, we found Joe because Maurice was
always wanting um, like the young guy, like the Donny
Osman or the Michael Jackson, the little guy UM with
the high voice. Uh so um, so we found Joe

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UM and that was it. And then um the name
of the group was not Nuke Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah yeah ny n Y n u K. And it's funny.
It's like this is like I was like just the name.
I was like, I like the songs, I like the members,

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but I hate the name. And and I would tell
people like I'd be going to school, like be on
the train and they'd be like I would tell some
of Mila friends like I'm in this new group and
they're like, oh, that sounds cool, Like what's the name.
I'm like, Oh, we ain't got a name. Yeah, we're
trying to come over with it. But we did our

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first um our first talent show. We did have like
the big n Nuke sign come down n y n
u K and it is just like people. I think
it was like Maurice. He liked the name because it
kind of sounded like weird, like Manudo or something like that,
but it had no meaning. It was well, he said,

(15:00):
there's something about Nanuka the North or something like that.
It's like they called Polar Bears Nanukes or something like that.
It's like that name. Luke Proman wanted, you know, our
original name he really wanted was Kismet. Kismett. Yeah. I
don't think you would have been successful. I don't think so,

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because really the name really makes name really yeah, it does.
It does oh Man big time. Yeah. So how did
you end up with Kids on the Block? So we
had um a rap song on our first album. The
first album really didn't do much at all, but one
of the songs on the album was Nukas on the Block.

(15:43):
It was the title of the song and the record
company was I guess they were struggling with the name too,
so they they approached. My reason was like, why don't
you why don't Why don't you call him Nukas on
the Block? And we were all like, yes, please, yes,
do that. Let's let's be new Kids on the Ball.
So um yeah, I kind of thought it was like

(16:05):
a long name, but it was a lot better than
Well then eventually you would go in KOTB, so you know,
in KOTB or new Kids. Yeah, and so all this
time you're in high school. Um, so like when did
you rehearse? When did you practice? I'm like, what did
your friends think at the time? Did they were they

(16:26):
supportive or were they like, oh my god, you're crazy,
you like, that's no. I think you know, all my
friends were like, I thought it was cool. Yeah, because
I played them the music and they they were like okay,
Like they they were like, it's not just some some joke,
you know or some pipe dream. Um uh. Some of

(16:49):
my teachers like that. I told they were like, you know,
just keep studying kids, you know, of course you know
we've heard we've heard this before. Um. But yeah, all
my friends were were cool with it. Everyone thought it
was really cool. Yeah. You know a lot of the
kids at that time, and I think this is why

(17:09):
we you know, we got basically we were in the
group is because we were like, we were into dancing,
we were into music, we were into singing. So our
friends were as well, you know, um, so they thought
it was like really cool that that we were doing it. Yeah,
we're definitely performers. And you know, back then, there was

(17:30):
no term boy band. There was nothing to compare you
guys to, except like the New Additions and those groups,
you know, the vocal groups that we all knew and loved.
So to me, I bet your friends thought it was
It was a much cooler thing to be a part
of back then than like these these days where people
compare you to a boy band as a negative, like
oh right away, right, yeah, So you know, so I think,

(17:52):
you know, I could see where the high school kids
are like, yeah, man, this is cool. But like for
this generation, anyone in the high school like yeah, I'm
in this this boy band, they'd be like, oh yeah
cool man. Well I think right, I think it would
be cool now now with TikTok, everybody's kind of like
music is cool again, you know, being boy bands are
cool now? Yeah, Well, Dan, like just dancing on TikTok now,
it's like that's what every kid does. So like, I

(18:13):
think it's coming back into Yeah, you know it's no
longer like uh, because it's true because groups these days
they don't really dance, they don't you know. We we
always put a spectacle and y'all dat mean I've been
to your show. Uh. It was just over the top
and amazing. Didn't you camp out one night? And my
sister sister was a huge fan. I was twelve, and

(18:35):
I camped out for tickets in Jackson, Mississippi. Very same
y'all are playing the stadium, which no one ever came
and played a stadium, and even camping out for damn tickets,
I still got the last row in the stadium and
had to watch the show with binoculars. Uh, but it
was still even from that far away, it was an incredible,
incredible show, uh, which reminded me of the show's on

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like Madonna, Janet Jackson, Michael jack and like people that
really I want you to entertain me. When I come
to a show, I get bored if you're just gonna
be sitting behind a microphone. So you guys were just
such an influence on just by the performers you were.
Thank you, Thank you. We used to watch Um, you
know like the Apolo, the shows at the Apollo Motown

(19:19):
and the Apollo and uh Jackson's and New Editions. So
that was like that was our template. So like that's
where we were going after and y'all sing it Apolo
early on, right we did? Yeah, how was that experience?
It was wild. We were walking down the street in
New York City with Maurice and Maurice was he was

(19:40):
a go getter, uh and um, he saw the guy
that hosted showtime at the Apollo walking down the street
and he said, hey, man, like he like practically accosted
the guy. He said, this is my group. You need
to let him on the show. Blah blah blah blah,
and he convinced the guy to get us on the show.
So we did the show. We ended up doing the

(20:02):
show like we opened it up or whatever, and the
guy was he loved it. So it was like come
back next week. So we went back next week and um,
it really helped us actually, uh with with our first single,
please Don't Go Girl. So that's how we got on
the showtime. We were scared boy. Yeah, it's a tough crowd,

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but if they're behind you, they're behind you Yeah. Yeah. Um.
In an interview with People magazine in nineteen ninety, you
said that you still knew the band would become famous
even after the first album didn't do so well, and
that you probably wouldn't be in school months longer. You
still have that confidence, Um, What made you really believe that, yeah,
moving forward after your first initial attempt. I think it

(20:47):
was I think it was just the chemistry of the group.
It just I just felt a solid connection with all
the guys, with Maurice, with the music. I just felt
like we were solid, Like there was no we were

(21:07):
just in it to win it. And I really believed
like the chemistry, the different personalities really worked well together.
And I just felt that if we kept going and
kept you know, creating, and just kept moving forward, that
we would eventually it would eventually pop. Yeah, and it's right.

(21:30):
You were the first group, of course, I mean I was,
I was very young, but you're the first group I
remember where you did look at personalities like you knew
every single personality of the guys. I never really saw
that in the Jackson five or New Edition or any
of these other vocal groups. Of course, Michael Jackson stood
out because he was the youngest, but like I never knew,
Oh that's the shy one, that's the business guy, that's

(21:52):
the crazy one. But with new guys, like everyone really
had this like archetype. Yeah, like person, I think you're
the ones who kind of died that. I think that
really was the blueprint of all the groups going forward. Yeah,
but we weren't chosen for that. It just naturally, I
feel like we because then Spice Girls came out and

(22:13):
all that, and like, and I think we just naturally
fell into a character as we were making music, you know,
and I was like kind of known as the shy one,
but then I got like became the real shy one.
And Chris was like the crazy one and he got
real crazy. So you know, I just think everyone just
was like, well, this is what I'm supposed to be. Um,
But I blame it on you guys. Congratulations all right,

(22:50):
so you uh were not wrong about you blowing up,
I mean, hanging tough. The album was released in eighty eight,
a couple of years after the first album, UM and
Please Don't Go Girl becomes Smash It. It just took
off from there, did it feel? Because I mean y'all
had been together for so long already. Did it still
feel like an overnight sensation or did you feel like

(23:13):
we paid our damn dudes to get to that point? Both?
I think both at the same time, because once once
it hit, it really we started moving quickly. But I remember, like,
I think it was the show that we it was
like showtime, it was the Apollo or whatever, and we

(23:34):
did please Uncle Girl and the right stuff, and afterwards,
like I started bawling because we went over the audience
and we were so together. We were I thought we
were just really sharp and and it was all of
the effort and struggle that we put in that came out.

(23:59):
So it was I did feel that like we we
definitely did pay our dues. But once it started going,
it went quick, So in that sense, it felt like
an overnight sensation. But we definitely we definitely put in
the the elbow grease, the sweat and tears. Um sometimes

(24:19):
in stress, you know, because at times we didn't know
if we're going to get another record deal things like that. Um, well,
how did you cope with a fame part of it?
Because that at an early age, you know, having women
just throwing themselves at you. Uh, you know, is so tough?
What a nightmare? Yeah? Did everyone take it? Uh? You

(24:42):
know and stride you know the fandoms because you know
they're they're amazing. And I want to know your favorite
fan story because everyone has that one story, the crazy
as crazy fan story, I know, and I bet you
our fans have heard because a lot of people ask that,
but a lot of people want to know it. Uh.

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But what was the first question you said? What was
just how how did you feel? How did you cope with,
you know, being a sex symbol at such an early age? Oh? Horrible? Um,
I mean you could say it was definitely a bit overwhelming.
When you can't walk around, like you can't go to

(25:25):
the corner store, you can't go to the mall. You know,
they got to shut the freaking mall down, you know,
just for you to go there. Um, it starts, it did.
It did kind of become kind of a pain in
the butt. But um, the good thing, you know, and
I'm sure you can relate obviously, is that you know,

(25:45):
there was five of us and we can hang out
with each other, and we had each other too. There
was always somebody's who was going through the same thing
you were going through. So it wasn't like you're just
a lonely person at the top with a bunch of
hanger on. You know, you have for other people that
you can talk to. I have my brother in the group.

(26:05):
A lot of times we had you know, brothers and
sisters out on the road with us that knew us
since we were really young. Even if it was like
you know, uh, one of Danny's sisters or one of
Donnie's brothers or whatever, like they knew us too for
a long time, and you know, our parents would be out,

(26:26):
you know a lot, and uh so I think we
had a good base, a good support base there that
that kind of kept us grounding exactly. I say that
all the time. You know, being a soul artist, you
kind of get you can get a Michael Jackson syndrome
where everything's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and you you know,
you don't know what reality is. But with a group,
you have four other guys next to you just slapping

(26:48):
you back down to earth if you ever get out
of there. You know, so you're always very grounded, very
you know, you get humbled very easily. Might I never
even knew this, so, you know, with Mark wall Bird,
you know, Donnie's brother. He was young, Like how old
was he is? He much younger than y'all. He's like
a year younger than me. So I always imagine him, like,

(27:10):
why wasn't he fighting to get into this group? I
bet he was like I could be in this. He
was in the he was in the group for a
little while when Yeah, when Donnie joined, he brought Mark along,
and um, Mark, he just wasn't into it. He wasn't
into it. He wasn't into singing. Um he well, he

(27:34):
even at the time, he wasn't even at the rapping
because because Maurice is trying to get him the thing,
and he was like, um and uh, He's like, I
just want to play basketball, basically, that's what I wanted to.
Uh So, Yeah, he dropped out. I don't know how
long he was in the group. Maybe a month, I

(27:55):
don't know, two months. That's funny. I never knew that.
Um So, all right, in nineteen four, Jonathan uh leaves
the band? Um one, How did that make you feel?
Did you understand where he was coming from? Yeah? I
mean I always did, because I you know, he's my brother.

(28:15):
I knew, um I've seen his emotional state. You know,
go back and forth and stuff like that. And as
far as I know, I knew he wasn't crazy about
being in the spotlight. Um even though he was and
he did, you know, kind of ask for it, but um,

(28:36):
you know there for me, it was no hard feelings,
and I know I think that all the guys understood
as well that we just had more passion for you know,
getting on stage, whether it was working or not. And
a lot of these anxieties probably could stem from I mean,
he was closeted like I was back in the day,
and you know, you don't want anyone to find there

(29:00):
was who you are. Yeah, that was bad back then,
it was really bad. It was you know, it was
not it was not nowhere near accepted as it is now.
It was just like like he did really he was
really hiding it, and that must have been a big burden,
you know. I mean it's true. I mean especially at

(29:20):
that time too, like the only out you know, singers
were like very flamboyant really like played into that, so
there wasn't really any examples of just there was definitely
a negative. Yeah, it was a negative, Yeah, it was.
It was. It would have been a negative and even
even when you guys came out, I think it was

(29:42):
like two thousand, I don't know when. I don't know
when when this was, but I did a show. It
was like a solo show. And then after um, a
reporter said, what do you think of uh, you know,
uh in sync or the boy band and a homosexual
in the group, And just the way he phrased it,

(30:03):
I just it just bugged me. Um. And even so
even then it was kind of like, yeah, you could
feel the little big you could feel it, and and
it just it just it just bugged me. And I
was I said, I think it's great, you know, because
it's it's diverse. You know, he'll bring in more fans, um,

(30:27):
and it's a great thing. You know, Why does it
have to be negative? I didn't say that, but I
just said, I think it's awesome. Yeah, and it's I mean,
it's so crazy because yeah, I remember going back to
junior high I believe uh, and you know, you guys
were just so so huge, and then someone spread a
rumor that I think maybe you were gay, and because

(30:47):
of just that one rumor, the kids started turning on
your group. Like that's that's how like like Voultile. It
was to like have anyone gay, especially in Mississippi event. Yeah,
oh yeah. It was just like, oh did you hear
that Jordanite? Yeah, he's gay. He's gay, and so everyone's like,
oh right, never listened to them again, yeah yeah. And
then as a closet a kid, you're listening to being
like oh crap, Like geez, so you knew, I mean

(31:10):
everything about your life and all of your surroundings you
were you were told you gotta hide it, like to survive,
you have to hide it, because yeah, it would be
dangerous if you didn't. Um. So, when y'all did stop
doing music, would you call that hiatus or would you
call that a split? Like did you did you think
that y'all would ever do anything together? Or was it
just completely done for you? At the time, it was

(31:34):
kind of like we're splitting, we're gonna do our own thing,
We're gonna try solo stuff. We didn't know if we
would if we would come back together. Um. I think
in the back of our minds we always kept it
open that who knows, maybe someday or if some kind

(31:55):
of event showed up where it would be cool that
we'd all attend and kind of reunite or whatever. Um.
I know when we did solo, when we did solo
records and me and Joe we could we both had
it hit at the same time as around when you
guys were out, um and uh, we like we performed

(32:19):
on stage together. We did the right stuff. It wasn't
the whole group, but we did come. We did join
together as the new Kids basically. Um. But I think
we all just kept it open. But at that point,
like in ninety four, whenever it was, it was pretty
much a clean break, like we're disbanding, we're gonna do

(32:43):
our own things. But never you know, it wasn't in
a sour way or like, um, I hate those guys
kind of thing. It was just like we all wanted
to just pursue pursue our own lives basically. And y'all
did I mean I your song it was so great.
Give It to You was such a huge hit. And

(33:04):
it must have been interesting because you were part of
that TRL era with all of us, but you were
a part of the TRL era as a solo artist.
You kids didn't really get to get to that TRL
you know, part of their career. What was the difference,
like now being a part because what was like MTV
like during the New Kids days and being able to
promote your songs versus yeah, just a few years later

(33:27):
where every single kid flew home from school to watch
this one show to see their favorite artist. MTV was
like a slug fest for us. It was just like
it's just like a love hate relationship almost like they
in their earlier days. It was kind of like that.
I think they didn't know if they wanted to have

(33:47):
a song the channel, but they almost like they had
to give in and do it because we were so popular.
But they did it kind of like reluctantly. So it
was it was always kind of like we just get
this attitude from them, even though they were blasting us,
you know, on their on their station on the channel,

(34:11):
but we'd still get kind of like, I don't know,
just an attitude with them being at that time rock
and grunge and you know, I was just a young
boy band coming on the scene and taking over. They
just yeah, because they were used to having the rock dudes, uh,

(34:35):
you know rule basically, and they didn't. They didn't know
how to take it. Really. I think it was just
too too much. Well, what was it like working on

(34:58):
solo music after a group. Did you when did you
become a songwriter? I still don't really. I mean I
don't really think of myself as a songwriter, but I did,
Like I guess when when when new kids, when we
were working on music, I I kind of like with
like I'd like to try that. Um So I started

(35:20):
like playing piano and like messing around writing stuff. Um So,
I probably around sixteen maybe I started messing around with
writing music. Um But to do it, like to to
do a solo album, it was a lot of fun because,

(35:41):
um you know, you don't have you don't have four
other guys to answer to. It's just what you've always
wanted to do. Um And it was like freedom basically. Yeah. Yeah,
it doesn't mean it was better or worse it was,
but it did feel I did feel a sense of
freedom for sure. Ye did you feel more pressure? Yeah, yeah,

(36:03):
because it was just you know, yeah, I felt m
I did feel pressure. I did feel pressure, but mostly
from the record label because like everything I brought in
it was I was signed to Interscope Records, and it
seemed like every song I brought in Jimmy Ivy was

(36:24):
like trying again go back to the studio. Yeah, I
need something incredible like and I'm like, oh my god,
you know. And then I played him one song that
piqued his interest and I said and and I and
once his interest was piqued, I said, I think it

(36:45):
would be great for me to work with Jimmy Jammer
Terry Lewis, and uh, he just called him right there,
right in the right in the meeting and called him
to day, Hey, Jimmy. He was like, what do I
call him jam Jimmy jam What do I call mister
jam call him? I don't know Jimmy Jambs. So h
So he called him and I hooked up with them.

(37:07):
But before that end with Jimmy Jammer Terry Lewis, when
I first signed to Interscope Records, John McClain, who actually
in nineteen eighty four, he came to our neighborhood and
he was a famous executive. He um like put Janet
Jackson on the map, and he was he was actually

(37:29):
good friends with Jimmy jam Terry Lewis. He was working
with Interscope at the time, but he came to our
neighborhood to check us out to maybe sign us to
A and M Records, and he passed. He passed on us,
but then later he was he heard that I was
looking for a record deal and he brought me to Interscope.
And so when I first signed, he said, um, uh,

(37:53):
there's this kid that I think you should write music with.
That that that should help you out. And he's seventeen
years old. He lives in LA. He was like, do
you know, um, do you know who Alan Thick is?
And I was like, yeah, the actor Alan think his son.
His son is a great songwriter and his name's Robin.

(38:14):
I'll send you a couple of his songs. So he
sent me a couple of Robin Thick songs and uh,
I was like, man, this dude, he sounds incredible. And
he said, yeah, meet him at the studio. So I
went and met him at the studio. I pulled up
and he was like throwing a basketball against the wall.
He's seventeen. He has like a cap on sideways. Really

(38:35):
young kid. But when when we got in the studio,
he just like took over. He was incredible. So I
did um, most of my solo album with Robin really
and yeah, yeah, look at seventeen, I could I mean
I started it within seeing at sixteen. At seventeen, there's

(38:55):
no way I would have known what to do in
a studio. I definitely wasn't writing. I definitely wasn't sing songs.
I mean, I was so green at it. I couldn't
imagine at such an early age from his dad. Oh yeah,
I mean his dad's a great writer. Yeah, a lot
of people forget Alan Thick wrote some incredible songs and
special theme songs and TV show. Yeah. Yeah, this mom
had a really big pop pop hit on the radio.

(39:19):
Yeah that's great. That's a little tidbit of information. I
love that. I've never heard that before. All Right, So
the years two thousand and eight and you give the
blockheads what they have been waiting for, the reunion phone
New Kids on the Block. It goes down, all right,
how did this all happen? Who called who first? Um?
There's different versions. Uh. We all kind of stayed in touch, like,

(39:46):
especially when email came along, it was easy to email
each other, so um, and plus we had like we
had like lingering. We always had lingering business that we
had to attend to, like writes for songs and stuff
like that, merchandise rights, blah, blah blah blah blah. So

(40:08):
I think on one of the email changes kind of like, so,
what when are we gonna, like, you know, get the
show back on the road, Like I think somebody we
started kind of flirting with the idea over email, and
I think it was just for me. It was kind
of like a lot of people just started talking about

(40:31):
it again, just off the cuff. Like before before that
time it was like not cool, like don't get back together.
But then it started being like the world needs the
new kids again, or like the world will accept the
new kids again. I think the fans were like at
a point where they were ready again for us or

(40:56):
to be nostalgic, you know. And I think the I
just think the different. Um. I think I think I
just think the world was ready for it again. And
I think I think we all had a sense of that,
and that's why we all started kind of like messing

(41:16):
around with the flirting with the idea. And we would
call each other like separately, like me and Joe would talk,
or me and Donnie would talk, or Danny and I
would talk about they would talk without me or whatever
like um, and it was kind of like we were
just kind of dancing around it a little bit. And
one time I went out to see Joe. He's a

(41:38):
Joe called me, he said, you should meet gout Jared.
He works with Irving A's off and he's like, he's
really knowledgeable, knowledgeable about tours and stuff. And I went
out to Joe's house and met our still manager Jared Paul,
and he kind of hypes me up on the idea

(42:01):
about us touring again. And I talked to Donnie a
little bit, and there was a time where like, don't
I don't know if it. Like Donnie was like kind
of busy and had to finish some projects, so we're like,
we don't know if he's going to do it, but
you know, he actually did want to do it, but

(42:21):
he was just waiting for certain things to fall into
place and to make sure that, you know, we as
a group had you know, total control over the whole thing.
It just took a little time for all of us
to just be ready for it. It didn't take much time.
I think we were all kind of antsy because we
all we all did feel the potential. And I think

(42:48):
we first gotten the studio together in two thousand and seven. Yeah,
and that was a weird experience. And did you think
the fandom would be this excited still? I mean even today,
I mean, your fans have never left your side. Did
you Did you always feel that even as a soloist UM,
And did you expect it to be as big as
it was when y'all came back. I felt it would

(43:10):
be successful, but I didn't know. I didn't know to
what degree. I did think that there was there was
definitely something there we you know, we all we all
felt that. I guess like we there was all there
was always these rock groups like the Rolling Stones or
Errol Smith from Boston, and it's like they have they

(43:31):
now have evergreen career. You know. Did I believe that
that would happen for us? Maybe not, UM, But then
like as we started going, I said, we're actually like,
you know, kind of like a classic group now that
can kind of just keep going, you know, and just
kind of have an evergreen time career because the sand

(43:54):
base is there and they're always like my sisters, UM.
Every time the who comes in town. You know, there's
like I think there's only two of them now, but
that was their teenage group, you know, when they were teenagers.
They loved large Adalti and the group to whom so

(44:15):
they even till today, they still go. So for me
to kind of put that together, like because because we
were a boy band, I didn't put it together. I
thought like, maybe only that would happen with rock groups,
But it happens with boy bands as well, that's true.
And you know we hang onto those teenage years because
that's our formative years where you know, that's your favorite movie,

(44:37):
is your favorite music, and yes, then you know, you
get a little older, you have to start living life,
you have to finish school, you start having kids, so
you can't really think about that too much. But then
you get to the point where you just want to reminisces.
You know, you have a little more time, you finally
found your footing in life, and you're like, ah, those
are the best. And so you're always just going to
go back to what makes you feel like you can

(44:59):
revert back to a teenager, to those those safer, innocent times. Yeah,
and there was no worries, yeah exactly, just fun. Yeah.
Now you still live in Massachusetts, you've been you've been
married with Evelyn since two thousand. When did y'all meet?
We met? Oh, we met maybe when I was like thirteen. Really, oh,

(45:22):
y'all go back that. Yeah, we weren't like an item then,
but I knew her. How did you know she lived?
She lived in my neighborhood. We lived in the same neighborhood.
And uh, actually her like we were like and there
was different like breakdance groups and stuff like that, and
we were like. She was like with another like kind

(45:43):
of crew or whatever they would call the Electric Generation,
And uh, why has there never been a film about
these crews in Massachusetts of these kids like battling each other.
We were the Chaos Crew. And then um, me and
my friend Edwin like we kind of like joined their crew.

(46:04):
And her brother was like one of the dances and
that crew, and um, I kind of hung out with
Hammy was a little older than her. Um, but yeah,
she was. She was one of the girls, you know,
she was one of the pink ladies. She was you know,
like so yeah, we just uh actually wasn't until after

(46:26):
like I kind of got off tour when we started
like talking talking you know, and hanging out in that
way and dating. Yea, Um, but I've known her for
a long time. That must be strange, Like at what
point did you look at her as more than her friends,
Like I've known you for so long, since you were
such a child, and now I'm starting to have feelings

(46:47):
for you, Like how does that switch? Well, she was
like she always seemed a little younger, like she was
part of it. Like when you're young just a year
and a half or two years, it's a big difference. Right.
So when I was twenty and she was eighteen or nineteen,
you know, she was she was my age and she

(47:10):
was she was like a woman now, you know. And
I was like, hey, hey girl, what you're doing? Where
you been my whole life? And now you have two kids?
How is the How are the kids doing? They're good? Um,
one of my sons is in Maine. He lives with

(47:31):
his girlfriends and Maine, and uh, he's doing good. My
younger son, Eric is in tenth grade, plays basketball. We
just went down the park yesterday. Kind of I'm still
feeling it. I'm a little sore. We were playing a
little be ball. But he's he's loving the Boston Celtics
and he's big into basketball and of course video games

(47:53):
and stuff like that. Well, yeah, they're good. You have
such a big connection to your home I can imagine.
I mean, everyone knows you live there. Is it just
kind of oh yeah, Jordan's he's just part of the community.
Or do people still freak out when they see you
at the basketball court? Um they kind of like, uh,
like I I'll see them, like they were like looking

(48:16):
at me, but they don't make a big deal, which
is really cool. I think they are used to seeing
me around town, you know, so they're just like like
they'll point at me or stuff like that, or smile
and waves good to see you, blah blah blah. Um,
but it's not, Um, it's not a big deal. Um,
it's really cool. It's like it's like right now, it's

(48:37):
like the best of both worlds. It's like you get recognized.
You know, it's nice to get recognized. It's nice to
be important. Um, but it's also kind of like it's
not a big fuck like it used to be. Yeah,
they're not off this time, right right totally exactly. Oh yeah, yeah,

(49:00):
I go to West Hollywood. The gays are like yeah,
they're just like yeah, they'll acknowledge you. They were like, hey,
lands good to see you, blah blah. But it won't
go crazy all right, let's get to a frosted tip here.

(49:28):
All right, you're in a band with four other guys.
You've been together for almost forty years now. I'm sure
you're you guys have had many disagreements over the years.
I mean that's what family does. When you have brothers,
you fight, you you make up, you love each other,
you hate each other. Um. So what tips do you
have on working with or going into business with close
friends or family? Oh? Man, family, like straight up family

(49:52):
going into business? Yeah, um, what tips? I would So
I guess get everything out up like, lay it out
up front. I think like with family, it's kind of like, um,
it's kind of like there's a lot of unwritten rules
are unsaid rule and it's based off of family, um,

(50:14):
not on business. So I think, like you guys, you
have to be like very upfront. I think right off
the bat, like, I know we're family, but this is
a business. You know that type of things like, because
you know, I think in family, you kind of like
you'll do whatever. You know, you'll cut corners, you know,

(50:37):
you'll let things go through. You'll act on the family. Yeah,
you'll act on the more of the family emotional dynamic
rather on like clear cut, rational business decisions. So it's
it's kind of hard to differentiate those things. So they

(50:58):
I think up front they have to be like kind
of like laid out. Yeah, what are your intentions? All right,
let's get this fan question. Oh yes, here's another fan
question from April seven, four one two. She said, you
deleted your Instagram. Will you ever come back to social media?
You know what? Um, I deleted my like all my

(51:20):
social media like kind of as an experiment. Yeah, um,
because I was like, I know, it's like I was,
I was on my phone all the time. I would
get into like and I liked it too, of course,
like it's it's kind of addicting. Um. Yeah. And then

(51:42):
I would get into like political stuff and you know
what I mean, Yeah, and it's like what the hell
am I doing? Like yeah, and I would be like
hanging out with my family, uh, or just like doing stuff.
Maybe I should be like just soak in life, man,
like live in the real world, like I was telling myself,

(52:04):
and I was like, let me, let me experiment and
like delete my social media. And I gotta tell you,
it's it's not easy. It was like I had so
much time It's like I felt like I had so
much time on my hand because I was any moment
where like I was a little bored or whatever, I

(52:25):
would just go like this, yeah, and so there was
like this boy, but like it went away. Um, and
I just got used to not looking at my phone
so much and not replying, not reading, not looking blah
blah blah blah. Did you find yourself getting into like

(52:49):
with all this extra time, did you like, oh my gosh,
I'm reading more or I actually spend more time doing
this now. I mean I got more like just more
into like just thinking about like little things I need
to get done. Like I'm more attentive to like just
little things instead of like putting things off, procrastinating, being
a little lazy. Um, I've gotten better at that YouTube.

(53:14):
I still am on YouTube and I am a YouTube junkie,
so that does take up some time too. Um. I'm
definitely more present, I would say, just in the real world,
Like I feel like more of a human being, you know,
without it. And also like I noticed like like when

(53:37):
you have social media, you like create an image, you know,
of your life or yourself. And I kind of like
I noticed that, like like it's like you kind of
show off a little bit, you know, how cool your
life is, or like let me post this, let me
post that I'm at the Celtics game. I'm here, I'm

(53:58):
I'm there, Like let me show how cool I am
or well, especially especially when you're a celebrity, right, I mean,
because I don't use social media as a personal thing,
like I'm not talking to my real friends and all
that and showing you know, my personal life too much.
We use it as a promotional thing. It's like to
show the entertainment side of us. So what we present.

(54:21):
I mean, most people present this kind of like false
narrative of their life, but when it comes to you know, entertainers,
we really show the false, like the perfect world of us.
But I agree, I got rid of Twitter, which was
like evil. I do it the Instagram and I do
the TikTok, but it all. I definitely limit myself with

(54:41):
the time, and I think it's so important anyone listening
right now take a social media break, even if it's
for a week. Really, just when you get that life
back a little bit, you realize how addictive this really
has become, and especially if you suffer from anxiety, like
when I stop Twitter and like going on Instagram every
three minutes. I go on it maybe twice a week

(55:03):
now just to check. Uh. You know, Briefly, my anxiety
went so down because I would just find myself again
like getting in debates or commenting on things, and then
seeing someone else reply, then my heart would start going
getting me mad, so I had to reply again, and
they would be like hours all day of a span
of me replying to this one person who who they are,

(55:26):
and it just kind of affects my whole day, and
I'm like, God, not having to do that. It's just
been like you're having a political debate, like eleven year
old who has no idea what I'm talking about under
a fake name exactly, Like what have I done for
the past four hours? Right? Right? Or even just like
taking a selfie of like what you're doing and then
reading all the comments. Oh that's all that attention, you

(55:48):
know what I mean. It's like it becomes addictive just
getting that you know, positive feedback instantly, and then you
kind of lose sight of what's actually like important. I
don't know, it's just kind of mess with your mind. Yeah. Yeah, Uh.
This one's from Cool Beans Smitch or cool Beans Mitch.
If you could go back in time, what advice would
you give your teenage Jordan's self, I was like when

(56:11):
I was when I was in my teens, Like I
like in any like new situation on stage, I would like,
I had really bad dage anxiety. Um, so I'd be
I guess I would just be like, uh, what would
I tell myself? I would tell myself like, you're you're
good enough? Just who cares like you're good enough? Like

(56:36):
stop trying to be perfect? Um? You know, uh, if
you know, if the crowd has a problem with you
whole well, you know, or if somebody wants to criticize
you whatever, who cares you're doing what you love? You
know that kind of thing because I did it, Yeah,
I was. Other guys in the group would tell you

(56:59):
I had a bad stage anxiety, I guess. And that's
such a good advice for just anybody. You know, you
when you're a teenager just doing anything that you don't
have to be in the biggest group in the world,
like you just everything you take to heart, and you're
just so insecure. You think everyone's looking at you, everyone's
judging at you, and the older you get, you look
back and you're like, oh, that really isn't the case.

(57:20):
And if people are here to see me, then they
like me because they like me. I don't have to
be anything else. Yeah, And and know that other people's
opinions about you is none of your business. It's like,
I don't even know what you think about me. It's
none of my business what you think of me. Yeah. Um,
all right? Do you have a super fan here in
Los Angeles? Veronica Pee? And she just asked, would you

(57:41):
give it to me? Oh? Man, I'll just say that's
a good one. That's a good one. Would you give it?
All right? So, oh yeah, that one from Chastity XO XL.
And I'm actually interested more to about this whole thing. Um,

(58:01):
she said. I just booked my first n KOTB cruise.
Any tips? I know y'all made this thing, Like, I know,
the coolest thing ever. Everyone is doing these cruises now
because of you guys. Cruise is fun. Dude. You should
come on our cruise, man, join us. That would be fun.
I would love to ie. We've only been on two
cruises in our life and I really enjoyed it. But yeah,

(58:22):
I would love to come to it in KOT. I
mean that would be wild. Huh, that would be cool.
You guys came, that would be awesome. I'll bring a
live frosted tips. Yeah, do a live podcast from the
cruise actually be fun. So how do you mean it's
really cool? I mean, do you feel like you're trapped
on this ship with everyone? Or do y'all just have

(58:43):
the best time ever? I think a little bit of both. Yea.
Especially the first one, we felt like it was like, oh, shoot,
we are trapped on this like boat with three thousand people. Um,
there's no getting off of this thing. Um. But we
just like we just like kind of like went in

(59:04):
just like this might feel weird, but let's just go
for it and just look at it as just let's
just have fun, embrace it all and and have a
blast with it. And uh it is wild. Man. Like
every day we like we do something we do. We'll
do like a game show in the theater. Um, we'll

(59:28):
do a show in the theater. And then at night
we do, um we do a party on the deck,
like a themed party, Like it might be an eighties party.
It might be like wear a certain color. Everybody wears
a certain color type of thing. We've had so many themes.
Um they people go all out to like make their

(59:48):
costumes amazing. We stay out there for hours and and
saying and dance and just it's like, uh, it's like
a festive like on on a ship, you know, or
like a like a dance party like a nightclub or something,
you know, on the ship every night. So every night

(01:00:10):
we do it, and uh, it's fun. I could imagine
that personal boundaries might get crossed because I'm thinking, you know,
you're a fan, you're away from the kids for a week.
You know, you've saved up some money just to have
the best time. You're safe on this ship, You're with
your favorite band. I've had a little bit too much
to drink now, Yeah, and I yeah, I can only

(01:00:32):
imagine that boundaries are crossed with you guys. So how
do you how would you deal with a very drunk
fans tear clothes off? Um, well, you know, I don't know.
We have certain difference, we have certain moves. Yeah, we
use we have we have you know, we have we
each have like a party guard. But uh, it's not

(01:00:52):
too bad. But yes, sometimes that does happen. But um,
there's a thing. We usually like when we do the
um parties at night on the deck, like there's usually
a stage and then there's a couple that there's kind
of a sea of fans and stuff, and then there's
a couple of stages like out in the in the
crowd that we want to get to. So we usually

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crowd surf over to those stages. Wow. So talking about
like violating, I'm sure there's some hands. Oh yeah, so
we you know, we were like we're on top of
the crowd, crowd surfing, but we're all holding our holding
our jump. Yeah, jock, jock. All right. Oh, here's a

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good question from Elizabeth from Elizabeth fifteen eighty and I
didn't even realize y'all did this. Yeah. Interesting on what
was the best part of touring with n SYNC back
in nineteen ninety nine? B nice, do you realize y'all together? Yeah? Awesome,
you know what it was freaking it was awesome, Like
I got that like when I toured with you guys,

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I was like I got the rush back from the
new kids. You know, it was like this is this
is what I've been through, you know, this is yea
And it was so cool, Like when when I was
putting that song give It to You out, um, Johnny
Johnny Wright was like he just like open arms, Like

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it was really cool that that you guys invited me
on that tour and and uh, like they treated me
so well. It was you guys really treated me so well.
They put me on right before they went on and
most nights, you guys, like one of you guys took
turns like introducing me, which was hilarious, and it was

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a lot of It was a lot of fun. Man.
We were so excited to have you because, like I said,
I mean, you were such an influence on us. I
mean we wouldn't be a band without you. Um, So
it was And I'm a blockhead, you know, You're one
of the first groups that I was. I went to
go a concert of You're probably my second concert ever.
So to see to have you on tour with us

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was just a treat. But then just to see the
instinct fans fall in love with you, you know, as
the blockhead myself, it just made me very very happy. Yeah,
thank you man. Yeah, it was it was really you
guys were really gracious in doing that, and it was
it was so cool, man, it was so cool, and
we hung out a lot after the shows on days off.

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It was just um and you guys were loads of fun.
And I was like this group, man, I loved you guys.
You guys were because it was I think it was
just just the way the spirit that you guys had.
You know, you didn't take it too seriously, but when
it came but when it came down to business, you
handled you handled it like you guys were no jokes

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and and I could say the same about the same
thing about your group that's very similar in sync is yeah,
you didn't take yourself so seriously. You knew what it was.
But yeah, when it came down to business, you you
did your job. You knew what you had to do. Uh. Focus,
but you know you also have to have fun with it, right,
If you're not having fun, then why why are you
doing this anyway? All Right? So I have a questionnaire

(01:04:19):
from Teenbeat magazine in the eighties. I want to see
if your answers will match today. Okay, oh this was
this was answers I had back then. Yeah, so it's
probably like nineteen eighty nine, Teenbeat magazine asked what are
your hobbies? What are your hobbies? In eighty nine, I
would say music, playing the keyboard, playing the piano. Um,

(01:04:44):
that's it. It was actually basketball. Oh yeah, basketball reading magazines.
You're a big magazine reader. Yeah, going to clove to
going to gloves. Okay, well they're right about that, they're
right about basketball. I don't know about magazines though, apparently,

(01:05:05):
Well this is a magazine saying you like to eat magazine,
so they probably going to clubs. How's your club days
these years? Non existent? Non existing? All right, what's your
favorite drink? Um? Right now? My favorite drink is black
cherry selfler. Oh that sounds delicious. I don't drink alcohol. Yeah.

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What was your favorite drink back in the late eighties? Um,
white Russian? Well you gave a very PG. It's chocolate milk,
chocolate milk, chocolate milk. It was like, this is kind
of related to a white Russian. Yeah, true, I did
love chocolate milk back then. Who didn't, I mean, because
I can imagine. Also, like with us, the record label

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management alluded to, look, you gotta be clean, guys, don't
be seen with a girlfriend, don't be no drinking, no smoking.
So y'all, y'all, really, you know you had that innocent image.
Was that hard to keep? Yeah? Um, well no, it
wasn't hard to keep well, well we didn't keep it,
but um but was it hard to you know, keep quiet?

(01:06:14):
Uh not too Yeah, no, we no social media exactly.
I think that's what I think that's what it was. Yeah,
you could just pretend there's rumors like, well, no one's
gonna really know, prove it. You go to the club
and have fun and hang out. Yeah, no cameras, no
camera Yeah. Who was your favorite actor? What did you

(01:06:36):
say back in the late eighties? I would say because
I was like I was into those mob movies, um,
and we used to watch them on on tour a
lot and re enact them like Good Fellas and and
The Godfather. So it would probably be at that time
Robert Nei. Yeah, yes, all right, uh biggest okay, biggest

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thrill nineteen eighty nine, what's the biggest thrill? Biggest thrill
in eighty nine? I would just say, like like having
number one record like that was like we like hit
Hit the Pinnacle and just I think we were just
living at that time. We were just living the dream,

(01:07:22):
just traveling the world and being the biggest thing on
the planet. Yeah, yeah, you said, hear hearing a new
kids song on the radio for the first time. Yeah,
So do you do you remember the first time you
heard your song on the radio? Yeah? Um, it was
on an AM station. Um, but it was the station
we all listened to and even still um. Like, every

(01:07:46):
when you hear your song on the radio, there's like
a certain sound radio has, like a compression or something
like that, where it doesn't sound like if you just
popped into your cassette tape or whatever. It doesn't sound
like that. It just has a radio sound. To hear
the DJ introduced the song, and to know that everybody
in the city is hearing the song, you know, it's

(01:08:07):
like that was a rush for sure. It's so great.
All right, before we let you go, I need to
know what you're binging, watching listening to. All right, give
us something television wise. What do we need to be
binging right now? Well, everyone's watching I think we just finished.
I think it's been finished yellow Stone White Lotus. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:08:34):
we love our Jennifer Cool. Oh oh, you know what's
coming up is? Um, I don't know. You guys probably
know the show Succession. I was about to say a
succession waiting for it and it's the final season two,
it's coming up, coming up, so everyone that one. It's
so good. We just finished or we're finishing. Uh m,

(01:08:56):
Night Shamalan's show called Servant. It is a it's a.
It is definitely what does it cast? Servant? It's on
Apple Plus right, Okay, it's it's a very creepy. Yeah,
it's it's good. It's really good. Yeah, but you don't,
just like Night Shamalan, you just never know where it's going.
It's just like the fourth season now and we're still

(01:09:17):
like I still but now it's all making sense this
last season, like oh, okay, that's that's what's happening, all right.
But yeah, that's a good one. Um. So what song
do you have stuck in your head right now? What
are we listening to? Let's see, Oh, what's that The
Weekend song? Uh even though We'll go dead die for you? Yeah, yes,

(01:09:42):
I think that is the jam. I love that song.
And the Weekend just got named the most popular artist
in the world by Guinness Book of World Records this week.
How did they measure that? Yeah? I don't know. I
mean I guess through charts and everything from every country.
I don't know, but he's got the most popular ar
just like ever in the world. Got a lot of

(01:10:03):
a lot of good ones. All right, and what movie
do we need to see? Oh? Man, yeah, I haven't
watched a movie. That's hard for me a long time.
Everything is like, you know, you watch series and stuff
like that on what everything's a movie now it's just

(01:10:26):
extended me. Yeah, exactly. Um Man, I don't know. That's
a tough one. What movie do you know? I've not
even seen Top Gun yet. We haven't seen anything. I know,
like I haven't. I saw the Everywhere Anything all at once.
That was incredible. Oh really, Oh it's so good. Was
it that on my list? Because we just watched the

(01:10:47):
whatever whatever Grammy? It's such a crazy Yeah, you're almost there.
It's hands down, like such a wild It's a fun ride.
Once because I didn't know anything about it, and once
I finished the movie, I'm like, that's gonna win movie
the year. There's just something about it. You're just like,
it made me feel so good and weird. It's like

(01:11:10):
every genre of movie. It's ridiculous, but you just have
to take it for what it is because a lot
of people are like I couldn't get past the first
fifteen minutes, but no, stick with it. It's just it's
such a wild ride. It's I thought it was a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
All right, Jordan, what's next for you? What's next for you?
And the guys? How can we see in k OTB
next We are doing a cruise yeah this year that

(01:11:35):
you guys will be on and and we're doing UM
the Iowa State Fair. We just did UM which was
really cool. We just did UM a rodeo in Houston,
the Houston Rodeo, so like they had they've been doing
it for years and year. It's like thirty forty years

(01:11:57):
and it's huge, and we did it was like in
an area and we all had like cowboy hats on
and stuff and it was Yeah, it was so fun.
It was so cool. So we did we already did that.
And we're doing a thing called block cond kind of
like um, I don't even know what to happen? What
is it? Kind of like uh, like what they just

(01:12:17):
did in Connecticut the nineties cons like common con Like yeah,
it's just like we're gonna do like panels and stuff
and and UM talk about different UM topics and things
that the fans will be interested in. But it's like
a three day it's like a three day long kind
of like cruise. Basically we're gonna do shows, but we're

(01:12:39):
also going to like do some interesting things like on
different topics of the group and just kind of like
have panels and kind of just talk about things and
UM take questions and stuff like that. So we're doing
that UM I think in late May and uh Iowa
State Fair and the cruise. So that's what we're doing

(01:13:01):
this year. And then we're we're going to be recording
an album for a tour that we're doing next year,
so we're gonna have a full album soon, I think.
So yeah, that is great to hear. Yeah, that's amazing.
Well we're looking forward to that. I know you're not
on social media, so no one's able to really get

(01:13:22):
in touch with you, But what would you like to
tell the fans right now? UM? I mean, obviously just
thank you guys for continued support. UM, we are still
we're still together as a group. Even though I'm not
on social media, I'm still you know, I'm still thinking

(01:13:45):
of you guys, even though I'm not on social media.
We're putting together a new album. We're thinking about you guys,
and we want to make it a great album, and
we want to put together a great tour for you
guys next year so we can all party again and
keep the party going. Yeah, that's right, Well, we're all
super excited. Any other questions for Jordan, just DM Donnie.

(01:14:08):
I'm sure he'll get it to him. But Jordan's always
great to see you, my man, Always great to catch up.
I've learned a lot more about you, which I was
I'm just excited about. But yeah, I'll be seeing you
on the cruise because we're booking our ticket. Yeah yeah,
all right, man, thank you so much for being on
Froust the Tips. We'll see you later. You guys a
buddy later. Bye bye. We love our Jordan night. So yeah,

(01:14:34):
my sister would be very excited. I should have gotten her,
I'm something, because I mean, she's the one who made
me a blockhead, true. Yeah, And I don't even know
if she was like a real blockhead. I think, you know,
because when you're that young, you just want to do
what everyone else does. Like I'm cool, I like this group,
so but I know she really is the one who
introduced me to New Kids on the Block. This was
for you, Stacy. I was so cool. It's cool. Yeah,

(01:14:57):
I wished the New Kids concert last Yeah, ask me
about it. I camped out for ticket. Yeah, I'm a true,
true fan. Yeah. Although I had to wear binoculars to
see them. But that's okay, it's you know, it's part
of growing up. It's okay. So have you had a
lazy eye? It was fine back then? Wow, okay, whatever,
all right? Anything else you would like to say before
we let everyone go? They went to a little long

(01:15:19):
everyone's been asking for longer episodes. Yeah, you go. You
got one. Guys, you got a lot of content. I know,
I know. Is there anything I want to say? Yeah,
you're good. I'm good. I'm great. Okay, what about you?
I mean, I'm good, I'm excited. Well, we're just good.
We're in Mississippi right now and it's amazing and it's
going to be with a family. It is Easter's coming.
We had to plan our Easter egg hunt. It's fun

(01:15:40):
because every year I throw an Easter egg hunt for
our friends with kids. But now we get kids and
we're like, we need to really plan one because now
they can hold an Easter basket. They can and and
and our our daughter is great at collecting. She's a hoarder.
She has a hoard, complete hoarder. So she is going
to be probably the best Easter egg hunter ever. Oh yes,
you will get those eggs and hoard them. And don't

(01:16:01):
you dare try to take them from her? No, no,
but she wouldn't cry if he took it from her.
She's very generous. Yeah, it's like, yeah, take it, yeah,
but she will. Alexander would not like if he took
his eggs, so he would. He's gotten to the point
now where he throws his whole body in the ground,
whole body and it's like a car too, where he's
like kicking his legs in his arms and it's such
a fake cry. It's a fake cry, but he's a

(01:16:22):
total fake. And then ten seconds later he's laughing. He's
full on convulsion. Like I don't know if he said
that word right on the floor, he does that term. Yeah,
but a goes. I don't know if parents out there
they do this, but they just go limp. So you're
holding them or whatever, they just don't want it and
they just go limp. If they don't want you, Yes,
if he doesn't want you to hold him, he will

(01:16:42):
doesn't go. He throws his arms completely up, so he's
just like a noodle and he just slides out of
her arms. He also has a new thing the other night.
Hopefully this is not like a new thing. And it
was just that night. Oh god, oh god, I was
putting him to bed. Well, he did it months ago. Yeah,
he did hand. He got through a habit of like
making himself throw up and he thinks it's so funny.
And I'm like, a lot of parents are told me

(01:17:02):
that's a normal. Yeah it is, but he was doing it.
I put it out of the bath, get him into bed.
He is all cozy his little pajamas and he's just
stick his fingers down the throat and threw up all
over his face and he's laughing with like and and
he did it twice. He did that to me a
couple of times. One in the bed. Yeah. I just
put him down and he thought it was so funny
and all over his face. And then he did that
also one time again right after our bath, just changing

(01:17:24):
him on the chain, he taps and just and laughs laugh. Yes,
thinks it's the funniest and if you yell at him,
he don't know. The more you yell at him, like no,
like angry, like I would be scared as a child.
He thinks it's the funniest thing that he can never be.
He never thinks he's being punished. No, he just thinks
it's this is what they want me to do. So

(01:17:45):
he's the type of person you have to just ignore him.
And it sucks to have to just like turn your
back on him doing weird stuff like that, but you
just have to ignore him. I might just have to
take Mittens to his hands. A little Mittens would be
cute on him. Mittens. All right, all right, guys, that's
all the show we have for you today. Thank you
Jordan Night for being with us. Thank you my hubby,

(01:18:05):
and yeah, be good to each other out there. Don't
drink and drive, um, any other can be good to
your animals. Give be good to the animals, yeah, because
they'll be good to you. That's right, It's gonna be
good to you anyway. Yeah. Um, and remember stay frosted. Hey,
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