Trevor Guthrie (soulDecision)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello,
my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is Frosted Tips with Me and my beautiful husband, Turkey Turchin.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, hello there, mister Lance.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing great. Nice.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm excited for our guests today, Trevor Guthrie on this show.
I haven't seen him in quite a while. I know
last time we saw him he was here for the
Grammys when he was nominated.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
For This is what it feels like Van Buren.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, so we'll see what's he he's been up to.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
We also have another interesting story with him, which we'll
get into.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh yeah, we got Oh that's right. The last time
we saw him, something major went down at the house.
It was very traumatic for me for you Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
we'll get into that story.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I had to go on the lamb.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
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so go check them out at boy Band Break. But
they recap some of this stuff that we do on
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Speaker 2 (01:07):
So I know we've made it. Babe.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We have a recap show of our show.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I love it. What else has been going on? I
mean the kids? Okay, what milestone are we at?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Now? Oh boy, what milestone are we at? They are
as active as ever.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
They're definitely more huggy now, Oh that, yes, that is
a big They like to come up and give you
a hug and a little.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Kiss, which is honestly heaven on Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
The funny thing is so Alexander loves to hug right, yes,
but he also loves to wrestle, and his sister doesn't
know if it's going to be a hug or he's
going to throw her to the ground. So every time
he tries to lovingly hug her, she's like, no, I.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Know, And he loves to go up to her and
just give her the biggest hugs. She will cry and
scream like he's about to murder her because honestly, she
doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
He could be trying to try the.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Body slammer down to the ground like he thinks he's
in the wwe.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I know, I know he's just playing, but she's like,
don't play with me.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know, well else he's got to learn. I guess
she's gonna be a She's gonna be able to deal with.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
A lot with him. He's gonna be like Xena Warrior Princess.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
All right, guys, we're gonna have Trevor Guthrie. Trevor, all right, guys,
welcome back. I am super excited to welcome our next guest,

(02:29):
Canadian singer songwriter Trevor Guthrie. He's a vocalist who first
came to the prominence as a member of the band's
Soul Decision. Born in Vancouver, Aguthrie began playing piano and
his youth took up guitar while in high school. After
their sophomore album, Soul Decision called it quits and Guthrie
pursued a solo career. In twenty thirteen, Guthroy guested on
the artist Armin van Buren's album Intent, singing the song

(02:52):
that we all love This is what It Feels Like,
a Grammy nominated Also, Trevor, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Thanks for having men excited.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, man, the fans have really been begging you to
come on this show, So I don't know if I
should thank them and maybe they didn't tagging you on
all your social media's, but you came and I'm so
glad you're here. The last time we saw you, you
were over at the house. When I think you're in
town for the Grammys, I think, yeah, yeah, so myan God,

(03:20):
that was like years ago. But it was so because
it was such an intense day, especially for Turkey here.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
It was very intense for me.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
So let's let's set the story. So our friend, this
is when marijuana was not legal in California except to
grow medical medical you do medical and for the dispensaries.
So my friend grew plants for the dispensaries, and so
he wanted he needed places to grow, and his place
didn't have much sun. And I guess you need tons
and tons of sun. So my my roof is flat

(03:48):
and it has full day sun. So he's like, can I,
you know, put a few plants up there. I'm like sure, fine,
uh so we do that has you know, license and everything.
So you're over there and then the helicopter, the cop
helicopters start buzzing us.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh yes, the restless, chilling, chilling.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was already so whatever about having on a roof
because we had thirty something plants in our roof and
it was the middle of summer and you could smell
the weeds, and we would the neighborhood. We just moved
to the neighborhood, so like you, you know, the neighbors
are like, what's that on the trees? It smelled the
whole entire street smell.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, that's pretty bad. Like I didn't know that was a.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Thing like dressing room and uh yes.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
We had the helicopters all of a sudden, lap Deiss
swarming over our house. And I was already sew whatever
because the lands was like, I don't want to have
to deal with any of this stuff, so you're gonna
have to deal with it. Me. I'm a nervous wreck
as it is, and it makes me have to deal
with like our illegal marijuana operation on our roof. So
then yeah, the helicopters came and I'm like, this is it.
We're going to the we go hiking.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yes. What's what's funny is though, because when we came,
we had I guess to get to the hiking through
the backyard. You got to go through the gates up
on the roof, right, So we get up there and
you're showing me all these plants. Oh yeah, which which
is funny because what you didn't know about me is
back home, I also had my basement lit up with
like ninety eight plants, which I had a license for
a san A Canada, we had the same program medical
license you get nominated to grow for a patient where

(05:09):
you have to grow x amount for them. Yeah, so
I mean to see that we walk up there, I'm like, oh,
that's interesting because I would have never thought about you
right like you did that. No one would think that
I would have to do that. But because there was
this kind of loophole in the medical initia, you could
apply for it, the government gives it to you, so
maybe it was legal. Yeah, but you know, you come
up there and you see this, like, oh wow, what
is going on up here? This is kind of interesting, right,
And then like you say, the helicopter start flowing.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I mean, they wouldn't stop circling the house. So then
Lance and Drever go on a hike.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well we ran out the back, yeah, and thinking they
would chase but they didn't like and.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Then me and my friend Ti, who was also at
the house, we just like in the car and just drive,
so it was like driving to a Starbucks and a
sat in the parking lot thinking like Fallow, Like we
literally thought we were way more important than we were
that day.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
And then what's funny is that night I think you
were doing an award show as well. You're hosting something
and I came out to watch you and you can
step on stage. I got a nominee for whatever it
wasn't the Graham is it something else. I'm just thinking,
oh my god, this is crazy, Like we're at this
guy so today and it's like tellicp is going around
and nobody's that's just it's the weird guy. And then
the next day the police came to the house. Oh

(06:11):
they actually see they came and they just wanted to
I just want to say the license and.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Just also they were like, oh, we're just you know,
concerned for you because we don't want people like to
break onto the roof of your house, so we just
wanted to make sure you're you're safe.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And I was like, oh, this is the opposite of
what I thought you were gonna say. See, I went
to the police station, I said, hey, I'm growing this,
here's my license, and all my friends like you, why
would you do that? The cop was like looking at
It's like, wow, I've never actually seen one of these, Like, well,
don't people come and do this like no one's ever done. Yeah, no,
I don't want you kicking down my door and very
front of my neighbors. And he goes, no, this is great.
We won't have to come in and like you said,
kick down doors and start counting plants and what. And

(06:46):
he actually I said, come by any time you want.
And I said, just call first because I also run
my studio and I might have, you know, people working
with so just give me advanced notice. So sure enough,
I get a phone. Hey, we're just in the neighborhood.
I'm like, yeah, it's not a good time. Could you
come back another time? Right? And and for me, like,
I think doing what I did stop that from happening,
and people, you know, showing up and counting plants because
sometimes there might be an extra plant where there shouldn't

(07:07):
be and things.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Happen, right, So all right, Trevi. So you've had a
very interesting career and have been making music for most
of your life. But when did you know that you
were musically talented? Take us back to like where you
were born. How it all start?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
It where I was born. So my grandma, I think
when I was like two or three, was watching me
play the harmonica with my grandpa. I was sitting on
his knee. I don't remember this, it's just a photograph.
And I guess when he would play up high on
the harmonica, I would take my harmonica and I'd follow
him along the notes. So I guess said, oh, like
he's got a good ear for music. He's like following
him along, right, So we should, you know, find him

(07:40):
somebody that can teach him piano or something. And she
found a lady that was willing to take somebody that
was three years old. And I don't remember my first lesson,
but I remember my first concert. I had to sit
on a suitcase because I was so short. I couldn't
read the piano ano keys right. And so I mean,
I've been doing music since as long as, like I said,
I can remember, I don't even remember learning piano. It's

(08:01):
like learning speak English. You can just speakcis, you can
just play piano. So I think, you know, growing up
in elementary school, I was always that guy that was
going to go on to music all through high school,
I was involved in jazz band and concert choir and
you know, played multiple instruments, and it was just I
think that's everyone assumed I would do that. So I
actually went into school university to study music, but I

(08:23):
wasn't learning anything that I felt I needed to make
it in the music industry. So I met Dave, I
met Ken there, and we were just kind of like,
why don't we just drop out and form a band?
And that was you know, going back, what year would
that have been, like ninety one? Yeah, ninety one, And
it took, you know, a good solid eight nine years
before we had any kind of success. It was a

(08:45):
lot of I'm sure you know, struggling. You got to
write a lot of songs, you got to record the songs,
you got to send them out, you get a lot
of rejection. But actually because of you guys and Backshi
boys is probably what paved the way for us, because
we were we were a band, we were playing instruments,
we were writing our own stuff, and just labels weren't
interested in that. So I guess because of our looks

(09:06):
like we could you know, mold you into more looking
like a boy band. You can still play your instruments
and we're not gonna dance. It's like that's fine, you
play the guitar and do what you do. And it worked.
I mean, Backshi Boys came out and you guys came
out the same time, and it was just it paved
the way for us to kind of just slip in there.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Right, Well, what did you think that? Because yeah, I
mean you're not the typical boy band. And back then,
you know, being called a boy band was a negative thing.
It really was.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean we thought that.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, I mean it it was huge, right, and the
fans loved it, and because it was so big, it
got made fun of, I think, but you know, it
was a negative even we hated to be called a
boy band, right, well we're not.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
For a few of like the big ones, it was
like a good thing to do. Just you lip sync
for everyone else. It just like if you weren't like
Backstreet or in sync and you kind of just like, oh,
you're just like manufacturer kind of right, And that's.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
What people thought about us. We were manufactured. But that's
not the case. I mean, like, yeah, all had you know,
we could have had a degree in music if we
would stayed. But I mean you know, we, like I said,
we wrote the songs, we recorded the songs, to produce
the songs, and you know, I remember seeing an ad
in the new in some trade mag and it was
a picture of Backstreet Boys and it was this is
probably before they were released, and we're like, wow, that's

(10:16):
these guys are gonna be huge. We knew it just
because we felt we were doing something right. We were
doing pop music. We had a certain look. You know,
we didn't know that having an instrument and writing your
own music didn't It was irrelevant at the time. But yeah,
so whenever when anytime he was like, oh, you guys
in a boy band, there's new boy bands, Like, we're
not a boy band. We're like, we're a band. We
play instruments. But looking back now I'm like, yeah, I
was in a boy band. Whatever it is, it is

(10:37):
what it is exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Now it's like we own it these days.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well see, I wrote that song for Armon right that
this is what it feels like. So once that came out,
I kind of felt like I had vindication, right, Like
I wrote Faded for Soul Decision, and then you know,
ten twelve years later, I was able to write another
song that actually hit the charts. I was like, okay,
you know what, I was in a boy band. Now
I'm soldly, you're legit, right, I got the Grammy nomination
I was and all.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
You guys with all your songs right yeah yeah yeah
with David and Kinn in college, di y'all get in
trouble a lot. Like I feel like y'all had like
a fun little crew.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
College though, like like I said, we were there for
three or four months learning anything. This is not going
to put like, so they just had fun. Yeah, I
mean I don't know like we had the fun on
the road, Like it took you know, eight to nine,
ten years to finally get some success. So like I
just remember grinding. I remember being in my room and
like not going to parties, not dating, not like having

(11:29):
any sort of social life. And my managers like, that's fine.
Just keep doing what you're doing, like you're a marine man,
you're writing, you're you're producing. This is going to all
pay off one day. So I like, there was no
big parties and I'm not like I was never a
big drinker. I never had alcohol until I was like
thirty five, So yeah, I can't I can't tell you
there was a lot of parties going on, just you know,
with the when Sol decision hit. You know, that's you

(11:50):
know what it was like. There's a lot of fans
and there's a lot of opportunities to have some fun,
and that's you know, we took advantage of that.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I would say, who did y'all first sign with? When
was that?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, actually we actually signed to a record called Popular Records,
which is more of a dance label, but apparently we
didn't actually sign. They spent money on a video which
and released a song for us because we actually we
released a un called Tonight. It was independent, and they
came in like, hey, we want to shoot a video.
You have this video you guys shot it's not that great.
Let us put some money into it. In a fine okay,

(12:21):
So we thought we were signed to them, and then
as the months went on and this song was becoming successful,
our managers like, actually we haven't signed, and they're wanting
us to sign. I'm like, okay, well what's the plan
for this this label? And they really didn't have a
big plan, And all of a sudden Universal came in
and just said, well, if you guys aren't signed, we'll
we'll take over this contract or what the contract you're
going to sign and and we'll we'll take it from here.
Which was a good thing because, as you know, you

(12:43):
need a major label in this industry. You have to
have like the top tier, and Universe is huge. So
we were fortunate that we didn't sign that contract us
we probably never would have got out of Canada.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Are you doing the major label thing now? Are you
doing it independently?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Now? It's a different era, yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh yeah, right, And the only reason you need labels
these days is basically just for the pr.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, and and for radio too, Like I'm still you know,
I would consider what I do now is like kind
of a pop hybrid. I wouldn't say DM, but it's
the dance you know, you can. I work with the DJ,
they produce it, I write the song, so it's still pop,
but it falls into that more. I'd say dance radio, yeah,
and maybe some pop radio. So it would obviously be

(13:23):
a smart idea to have a label like a Universal
or Sony or Warner, because they they're the plug into
the major major radios, right, But in the you know,
the dance world, it's not that necessary because obviously, as
you know, there's like a festival scene that's set up.
You know, DJs can play a festor around the world.
They kind of have like their own market where they
don't rely on the radio so much. So, I mean

(13:45):
it's I think, if you want to become an artist today,
I mean, your goal should be to able to get
with the major label at the end. You build your
success so much that you can get there, because at
the end of the day, that power is still there.
But it is definitely not necessary. If you can, if
you can win on TikTok, if you can win on Spotify,
those labels in theory would approach you because your numbers

(14:08):
are so big and they'll take over. But I mean
you obviously you want to shoot for the tops here.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, that's what's happening with Jake right now. You know
the artist Jake, he's very new, I think just less
than a year he's been out and he has the
song a Golden Hour and be case incredible, the instruments,
everything just great and the writing. He blew up on
TikTok and the labels were hounding him, right, yeah, he

(14:32):
won't sign a label deal. He's like, Nope, not gonna
do it.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
He doesn't really need to. But I also believe at
some level, like you want to keep going and keep going.
I mean, you definitely have some advantages to having that
label when they're plugged in. I mean there's still still
half their grasps in the industry and you know, of course,
but you're right, it's it's not one numbercent necessarily like
it was back in the day when when you were around.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
How did you come up with the name Sole Decision
because y'all started out as Indecision, right.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, and somebody in the States. So I think my
managers like, well, you guys are soul full and Indecisions
soul Decisions. It sounds like that, or like whatever, let's
have We had the record company, the universe was ready
to put us out. We already had the top, like
the first single picked out, and I think the video
was shot. It's like whatever, just go with it. It was.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
It was just I think it was a good call though,
because I mean, you didn't want to do it. Sole
Decision I think is way better than Indecision works. Definitely works.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
So you eventually get signed with the record deal, you
have to change the name because of all that. One
amazing thing about you guys is that the fact that
you did write all of your songs and played all
the instruments. So where okay, so your piano, guitar, and harmonica,
a little harmonica, I.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Mean I haven't played harmonic. Yeah, and David and Ken
what were there specialty? Dave plays a bit of guitar,
Ken's keyboards. So the way we arranged it was we
actually had other musicians coming on the album to like
play drums. You know, I had programmed everything. I wrote
program live drum to produced it. But we worked with
a guy named Charles Fisher. He produced Savage Garden that

(16:03):
was like massive record or you know the right, So
that was a huge album. So we're like working with
Charles and he's like, look, mane, if this is my record,
I would make the best musicians in the world. That's impression.
So we put the best musicians in the world like
in place of what we couldn't do, which was drums
and bass, and we had a great rhythm section section

(16:24):
and yeah, they just all came together as kind of
this funky, you know, pop sound, and it was different
than what was happening on radio. So I don't know.
I think it worked that way, but we were proud
that we wrote our own songs. It's funny thing about faded.
I'll tell you this. That was a song I think
I wrote when I was like nineteen twenty. It probably
took a few years to write because I had a
couple of songs that won first and of course or

(16:46):
something else. I kind of put it together a few
years later. But it's a song about being drawnk and
being laid, two things which I had never done at
the time. I don't know how I pulled that off.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
You who were your influences for that song?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I just when I go to club When I was
going to clubs, you know, I was young and insecure,
and I just I didn't like dancing. I'm not you know,
I'm kind of lanky. I just wasn't a great dancer.
But I felt like when I was dancing with something
in the club, if I knew the words and I
could sing along, I was more comfortable. So I was like,
you know, I need to write a song that What
am I thinking when I'm dancing with this person, Like
I'm trying to get this person home? That's like what

(17:19):
everyone's doing in the club, So like this is the song,
which is interesting because I had fans coming up to
us all the time like, oh my god, like how'd
you write that? Like you say everything that we're thinking
when we're dancing in a club, And I'm like, that's why.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I wrote it, right, So it worked, you know exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
You never know?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well Faded came out that was two thousand with No
One does a Better album. It immediately goes to number
one in Canada. Huge here in the States.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Also.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, and so after all these years like a working
together and it finally like quote unquote paid off. What
were you thinking at that moment? Where did where did
you think everything was gonna head?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mean I just remember walking on stage for our
first show in Vancouver and like I started to sing Faded,
and everybody sang it and like they just started to win.
That gets you out and I'm like, oh my gosh.
I looked at Dave. I'm like, oh wow, this is crazy,
Like I think we're gonna make it, you know, like
this this is it, Like We're we're gonna make it
because you get when you write that song and you
get that human connection and you say something that people

(18:31):
want to sing back to you. It's like, that's that's
difficult to do, right. So I think that was the
moment that, you know, I realized that, yeah, we're onto
something because it's connecting. And it did. And that was
the first show and we did hundreds of shows after that,
took us around around the world. It was a crazy ride.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
He also said, you wanted to create a no skips album,
which people don't know. That means you don't skip to
the next song. Do you feel like you created that?
I said that, yes, that you did. You're right, Is
it a no album today?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Right? I would say so. I mean I wouldn't say
this hit after hit every here. We had six singles
deep in Canada. But yeah, like I grew up listening
to like George Michael albums and Wham and stuff like that, Duran,
Duran and Tears of Few Years and for me, I
remember those albums like that you could just play the
whole album. Every song was good. So with the first
Soul Decision album, I mean, we had like a good
ten years to write those so, I mean I had

(19:21):
a lot of songs that I had written. I was
trying to make them all singles. You know, sometimes that
doesn't happen. But if you put that effort in, you
can get those songs that at least are catchy and
they're listenable. Right.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's something yeah, that I guess people don't really remember
is your freshman album is sometimes like artists like yourself
that have been spending ten years getting your favorite songs
together and really you know, working out. So your first
album is pretty set a large selection. Yeah, there's software
albums where it gets a little tricky because then you
have less time to put things together.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And that's put it out.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's where a lot of people just kind of, you know,
fade out. It's because like, oh, I didn't get to
spend so much time on that second album, and I
think that's your most important album. Do you have any
favorite No Skips albums? You have like some inspiration on
the no Skips?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
The ones I just mentioned, I'm going back eighties like
Tears of Fires, song for the Big Chair was amazing,
Duran Durand's great, George Michael Faith, I mean, that's just
an incredible Turkey.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
What's your and you have? You have to have some
good not Skip albums.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean, honestly, I only bought obviously obviously.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's one another great Canadian.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Honestly, it's the first album I ever got and it's
totally a no Skip of course.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No Spice Girl first album. Let me tell you every
song is a bop?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean yeah, they were all pretty
much singles.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Speaking of Canadians, you Canadians do it right. I've never
met a Canadian I didn't like. I'm watching all of
Canadian's Big Brother right now, season after season, so I'm
really immersed into the culture that your culture, it is
the Canadian culture. Okay, name five of your favorite Canadian
entertainers right now.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Drake Bieber, Yeah, jo I love Justin b Bunning Easton
really well, Drake, Bryan Adams. Who else is in Canada? Yeah,
they've done.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I was looking for a little Ryan Gosling, Ryan Gosling.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Because I thought we were doing singers, did you say
entertainers entertainers?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Which Ryan's a good scene.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Ryan's great. Actually, Ryan's a great singer and a songwriter.
People don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, So when you look at the credits for No
One Does a Better Album, you'll see that Ryan Gosling
is credited.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well, I mean, you know my friends growing up and
uh yeah, I guess we're in La staying at the
Sportsman's Lodge and we love.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
The sports Have you seen the area now? They were
going to be created the whole thing. There's now the Equinox,
the Air One. They've a little bogie boogie.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's why we couldn't get a room there. Oh yeah,
prob I looked a year from now. I couldn't get
a room there.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Really, it's the spot because it's right next to CBS Radford,
so that's where a lot of the actors stay. They
filmed so many movies there too.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So many. Is that Jerry's Famous Deli still just next door?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It is closed, but it's still it is a bowling alley,
it's a bowling and they have live karaoke now, so.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I know they closed. Just my next job, the seven
Layer tron Cake.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, that's surprising they could not get Jerry's Deli to
stay because it's still open in Miami, right or is
that going to I.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Have not seen that in Miami. Wow, I lost track
where we were. Sorry, guys, it's very cake. Yeah, no,
we're talking about right right, So yeah, I mean it's
just yeah, you want to come down, and we're choosing vocals.
We were doing a we needed some gang vocals on
this song. I think it was called Feeling You and uh,
you know you could sing. We were writing songs back

(22:38):
in the day together too, So yeah, come down the studio.
I think we grabbed a bunch of people. Scott Vicarious
was there from Breaker High and we just went to
the studio, had some fun. So I actually still have
a gold record of his that I gotta give him.
Oh no, he was on the record, so uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right, and now he's ken that excited for that movie.
That movie looks so look funny and I love the
Amy Schumer, who was originally going to be Barbie, was like, oh,
they didn't want to do my ideas. I wonder what
her ideas? Well, this is already funny and you know, campy,
but like what would hers be?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I can't Imagineeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll never know.
All right. So, while you were a Canadian act, you
did see a lot of success here in the States.
You opened up for Christina Aguilera on the Genie a
Bottle Tour, which also not even as like that's amazing,
but Destiny's Child that was.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Great on the tour.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you got to tour with all these amazing women.
Are there any good stories? Did y'all get to mingle?
Did you get to see Beyonce without he makeup?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
All? Beyonce off the tour? Boss without makeup looks just
as good as we made that comment, like, oh my gosh,
course of course, right, So they were sweethearts, Beyonce, Kelly, Michelle,
they were so nice. How about Christina? Was he nice? Look?
We were on that was our first tour. It was
a big deal for us, right, and we're, you know,
thankful for being on it. We send us some flowers

(23:57):
and thank you for you know, inviting us on this tour.
Graduation on your first tour, you know, it's a big deal.
We never heard back from her. A couple of instances
where you know, we're trying to leave. I think it
was our hometown, Vancouver, we did it. I think gm
place we played there and just trying to leave the
the dressing room and security, her security comes back. You
got back in your room like, oh, we're just gonna leave.

(24:18):
I've got my family. No, you back in their room,
Christina's coming down the hall like, oh what, I'm gonna
jump her like break, I'm with my mom and dad
and my family, right, And so they made us.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Way through about ten fifteen minutes, and well, people can
forgive a lot of things when you're that talented, and
one thing that I will always give her is man.
She really helped our community, the lgbt QI a community
from an early early stance from a late nineties. So
if she was always such a huge supporter and one
of the I remember me coming out personally. I remember

(24:47):
her music had a lot to do with that, because
I think strips just came out and yeah, and it
just so many of those songs just remind me of
my first relationship and being in the closet and seeing
her that beautiful vide and seeing those two guys kiss
for the first.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Time in music. Our wedding song, like walking down the
Aisle was Christina. We can't seething. I know, I'm a
huge fan.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just we asked her to sing in our wedding,
but we knew she was going to say no. We
did get Kelly Price to sing her song, so it
worked out great. Yeah, yeah, because we love Kelly Price.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Were you part of the Mickey Mouse Club? I was not.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
That was Justin and Jason.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay, but how did you know Chris, because that was
she was a part of that.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You knew you were through j C and John.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
So when we started the group in ninety five, she
was just starting same thing with Brittany. You know, Brittany
was in a group called Innocence that a bunch of
our friends were in, and then Christina was just coming
out with uh a Reflection Reflection from Disney and that
song was just In and then she had a major

(25:48):
record deal after that. It was kind of right, okay,
and then Brittany couldn't do Innocence because she was signed
to Jive Records at the time, and John was like, uh,
you're not doing a group, You're domain a solo artist.
They forced her to be a solo artist, and you know,
that kind of worked kind of worked out.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
That's right. That was a huge camp man that that
pumped out a lot of star because was part of
that too.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Oh yeah, I mean, let's let's name him. Carrie Russell,
Ryan Gosling, Justin Timberley, j C. Shaz, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera.
There's so many Roan Gosling, Nicky Nicky Loach, I mean
a lot, so many more than that. It's it's crazy
what that show. And the funny thing is I go
back because I watched Mickey mouse Club when I was younger,
before j C and Justin were on it, and I

(26:33):
wanted to go back and watch it on Disney. Plus,
I'm like, oh, they must have all the you know,
Mickey mouse Club episodes. There were so many great performances there.
They don't have any of those up because of music licensing.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh you're kidding.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So all those Disney shows that like even our Concert
for Disney's not up there because of music licensing. Interesting, Yeah,
and even the remember the Disney movies that they would
make and then they would put like ensynct songs in it,
all that type of stuff. They had to replace those
with different songs. Now, so if you listen to them back,
it's they complete, we take our songs out of the
place it with some generic thing they made up.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, in twenty five year clause probably.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I guess. I don't know. Music license is so confusing
to me. We get asked all the time, can we
use your song for this commercial? Can we just this
for this It's not it's not to me. Yeah, well no,
I mean it is up to we have to say yes. Uh,
but I'm always I mean, I'm gonna say yes to everything,
right basically because i want my songs heard everything.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But it's not a contract.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and get paid.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
So we could use it in this Nissan commercial.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
So, uh.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
You also went on tour with us for the second
leg of the No Strings Attached.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
That was fun. Yeah, that was amazing. That was a
better experience.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
How much of assholes will we know?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
You guys were great and actually the best thing was
we remember. I mean, not the best thing, but it's
one of the things we remembered is how we were
talking about we were fighting about being a boy band
and we're a real band. I think it was Joey
that announced us the night we came out and say, hey,
it is like the first band and only band this
ever opened for instanct. He called us a band. So like,
these guys are awesome, and you took us to a

(28:02):
movie like you guys had this movie night that we did,
and that you rented the entire theater and that was cool.
I think you guys actually ate you know, food in
the capture with everybody and you guys are winding around
the halls. Hey, are you guys good? You give them good?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Like, yeah, love tour we did. I mean everyone involved,
our crew, I mean all of our acts that we
worked with, we just had a great time. I mean
it was like our college years. I mean that was
our fraternity right, just hanging out backstage. But yeah, it
was great. And you guys were so lovely to work with.
I mean you have always been like the nicest guys.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
You guys were good too, So you guys can put
good energy. So we we gave it back. Right. But
as you say, we're Canadian, we're.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
All friends exactly. Our two nights Canadians.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Canadians are the best.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
It does start Canadians and Australians. Those two countries, they're
like kindreds spread out some really commonwealth, right.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, it's the Queen, the queen that puts you together.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Okay, So another huge song of your alls in North
America was kind of Crazy, which was number one on
t R L TRS. That was more important than the
charts or anything, at least for like like being on
the radio did not matter. It was t r L

(29:15):
and it was also Billboard named that music video one
of the top ten greatest boy.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Band videos of the until this moment.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's very cool because Billboard even named the top ten
greatest boy band videos of.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
The t RL era. That was a fun video. What
do you think made that song of that videos stand out?
We tried to recreate like a I think it was
help by the Beatles, right, and just like running through
the streets and stuff, being chased and yeah, so we did.
That's that was the concept. You know, me and Dave
wake up one morning and there's tons of fans outside
the apartments, like how are we going to get it
to rehearsal, Like, okay, we dress up, you know, I

(29:49):
think we'd dressing super Mario Brothers kind of mustache and
had what wasn't that but and it's just yeah, I
think it was just a fun video. You see us
being chased through the streets and Ken gets ubbed up, adapted, inducted,
and uh he's on the back of a pickup truck
and we see him in the scene, so we gotta
go rescue him. It's just it was just I guess

(30:10):
a different concept, and I think we had a lot
of fans also pushing, you know. I think t r
L you could vote. Was that how it worked?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, that you call in I think eventually online?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Right, So I'm sure we had a lot of help
from fans, just like please make us number one? Like yeah,
it was all the fans, yeah, yeah, so but yeah,
it was just a fun video. I think the song
you know, had a catchiness to it and a George
Michael appeal.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
And I think it was the frosted tips.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Personally, I still have frosted tips, so.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Purple frosted tips right now. But yeah, every number one
t r L song there was research.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You're onto something research, I think you're on all right.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So now the second album, Shady Satin Drug two thousand
and four, Now there were four years in between this album. Yeah,
what were you what were you all doing? Was it
just working on this album or were you trying to
do individual things after that first album?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I gotta think back, man, it's it's a long time ago.
It was four years, wasn't it. You know what happened?
We got dropped by Universal? Oh I know, I'll tell you,
I'll tell you what happened Justin Timberlake Win Solo. Oh yeah,
and we get a call from the label said, yeah,
we're not We're not going to put out this record.
It's like what like and which is crazy because now
Rogers produced it. Who we all know who? Now Rogers

(31:26):
is right, I mean, one of the most funkiest guitar players.
And he's played on you know everything. He was in
chic you know, we are family. He's the man. He's
played on everything, Dran, Dram, Madonna, and he produced that
record and the labels like it doesn't matter. Justin Timberdake
Win Solo. He is the only guy that's going to
survive the boy bands. That was the message I got
when the labe was gonna call you to make you

(31:46):
see you if you're all right, feel good, and that's
what they told me, that no one's going to survive.
So yeah, and I'm feeling good. Okay, you're dropping us
and no one's going to survive. That's great, thank you.
We just toured America twice and spent you know years
during the first album. There's no second album, so we
didn't have a label to release.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So Justin timber like destroyed Justin group.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wow, well I think, Oh my gosh, I think and
all the boy bands, right, I mean, hey came up
with an incredible song and it was it was legit.
It worked. I mean, the times roll over, the times changed.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was an end of an era, you know that.
It was the end of that ton of trl era
h at that point.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And I was given an opportunity. Actually, the label said
we we'd like you to go solo, and I just
I didn't have the confidence I always.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Had tried and you know, I worked with Ryan Tedder,
you know, back in the day. We tried getting him
a record deal, no other and and this was before
Justin went solo, and everyone every record lab was like, Lance,
a white solo guy will never work in this country, right, No,
it just is not gonna work. No one is looking
for that, and so could not get him a deal.

(32:48):
A couple of years later, boom, Justin solo white guy
definitely worked. Ye see.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
This, Yeah, I mean he had the he had the
platform to jump from. I mean, you guys were at
one point, what the top ten most recognizable people in
the world. So all he had to do was make
sure he had good.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Songs and super talented what's the I mean because like
a lot of backstop boys try to do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Well in the way he performs, you know, it's just
like he's a performer, he's an entertainer. And then you
you couple him up with Timbaland, which just killed it
on that album. And I know he's working on his
next album now with Timbaland, so I'm excited to hear and.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
It wasn't involved in his first yea, yeah, yeah, I mean,
there you go, like that's we always say the most
important three things in the industry are the song, the song,
the song. And he could come out with songs that were,
you know, whack, and it wouldn't have maybe happened totally.
You gotta have that song hit as a hit as
a hit, right and he had to. He was talented,
he had he had the whole package. So what do

(33:44):
you need. He needed to hit songs. So yeah, I mean,
I suppose I things happened the way that happened for me.
I didn't want to go solo. I didn't have, like
I said, the confidence, and we said, wow, we figured, okay,
we are huge in the States, we're huge in Canada.
We spend all this time promoting the first album, and
I think it was you guys that actually said, you know,
you guys are on the right path. You're doing the

(34:05):
right thing. You're playing all the same shows that we played,
the same spot. You're doing all the right promotion. Your
next album is gonna be your big one. So we're thinking, okay, well,
why wouldn't we release this with a you know, smaller label.
And it didn't work. The smaller label didn't have the
juice and people were falling Timberlake boy bands where people
were buying boy bands. It just didn't happen. So we

(34:25):
kind of just fell off the map.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, I mean, after your final tour in two thousand
and five, who was the first to say, I think
it's time to hang it up right now?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let's I think it was me. I think it was
just like, we're like, you know, we're getting you know,
a small venue filled with fans, and the next venue
there's nobody there, and the next day it's half filled,
there's nobody there, then it's full. It was just like,
you know, it's time to just move on. And I think,
you know, because I would was writing most of the
Soul Decision stuff, I felt, well, maybe I can just

(34:54):
write my own stuff. But I went down a different path.
I went acoustic guitar and vocals, and I actually moved
to Australia to me it with the drummer that played
on our record, TERR pie Rich when he was a
phenomenal drummer, say come on out, I'll get your heaps
of gigs and local clubs. You can just you know,
start doing singer songwriter stuff. And that really didn't turn
out well either, and then I left Austria. Actually, you know,

(35:15):
he got me a meeting with Sony and we went
and we played in a few stuff and they're like,
you know what, this is actually pretty good, but you
need radio hits. You were big in Australia, remember you guys,
you need to get into our studio, record some radio hits.
Give us first, write a refusal, and you know we'll
go from there. I'm like, all right. So there was
a glimmer of hope that maybe I could launch from Australia.
So I'm like, I gotta go home. I just bought
a house. I'd filled it full of home stay students,

(35:37):
trying to pay the bills. I had, you know, a
friend looking after that situation, like, I got to get
home and deal with that situation first. And as I
was leaving Australia, the guy at Immigration said them, are
you coming back to Australia in times soon? I'm yeah,
I'm gonna come back in a couple of weeks. I
just doing a deal with Sony and they're like, no, mate,
you you don't have a visa to be here. I'm
like a six months visa because you know you got
a three month visa and Inspire you've been here for

(35:58):
like two months longer. I'm like, my so, go see
my partner in the back. And I get back there
and they put a big stamp three years probation, you
black flag, get out of Austria.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Take it back. Australia is not the nicest.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
And I haven't but yeah it was. So I was
out for three years and that and that I got home,
I was like, man, this sucks, like nobody wants to
give me a deal, No one cared about boy bands
can't get back to Australia.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Well, we talk about mental health a lot on this
show and doing something as big as you guys did,
and I can definitely relate. And then it just kind
of stops. Did that affect you in a way depression?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And yeah, yeah, of course, I think everybody really in
some level of course.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I mean I'm still dealing with the depression now. But
what how did you cope with it? How did you?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
You know? I think I was lucky. I was never
a big drinker, never really did drugs. I was always
into the gym. And you know, anybody that's ever dealt
with mental health, you know the first thing you keep,
You got to take care of yourself. Get to the gym,
workout that's going to release certain endor fiends and and
so I was always training. I think that really helped me.
And there was always a belief in the back of
my head that, you know what, like I wrote those songs,

(37:00):
those songs were like like huge, and you look at Faded,
there's one writer on that. At the time we were
in the top forty. Lenny Kravitz was the only other
artist that had one name as a writer. And most
people five writers, six rs today twenty riders. You know.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
So I don't think it's cheating.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
It's cheating. Well, that's how hard it is now right now,
it's so odd. I just felt like, you know, and
friends are like, man, you you did that, like you
can do this again? Like, and I guess time just
had to pass. It had to, you know, come around
to the opportunity. And it's funny that I got kicked
out of Australia because when I got back, even though
I was, you know, depressed, and I was like, oh man,

(37:37):
this is like what am I gonna How is this
gonna turn out? I still was writing songs. I was
still had There's still something in the back of your
head like you just you gotta keep going. You gotta
keep going. Right. If I would have given that up,
I don't know how I would have handled depression or
anxiety because then it's like, well, what do you you know?
What am I living for? Like this is what I
was born to do. I don't really have any skills
or anything else. Right, So yeah, And I got back

(37:57):
from Australia and another opportunity came out of a friend
mine called me Andy. I met you on set, you
know when we do an extra work back in the day,
I'm like okay, and it's like I'm working with these
DJs and like, I don't know, I think about that
industry man, And he's like just come to my house.
We'll cut you in on the publishing if you write
these verses and sing. He's like, you got that like
Chris Martin sound vocals. I'm like, whatever, what am I
gonna say? No, I got nothing going on for me.

(38:18):
So I went there and that that this doesn't changed
my life because I end up, you know, getting opportunity
to write this is what it feels like, which guts
into Armen and he loved it and used to it
was so massive range, I mean that was I mean,
how was that experience?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Is kind of all all of a sudden again you're
just like thrusted back with like the number one huge.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I mean, I didn't believe it was gonna happen. All
my friends like you're just gonna change your life. I'm like, ah, sure,
Like I've already been down that road and I just
didn't want to have the home.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I can always say Grammy nominated that song.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, that feel pretty good.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
It is a huge song and it's acually at the
time when that came out, I mean that song was.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Like the song yeah, number number one and thirty one countries,
the most played song on Billboard, you know, top forty Canada,
which is great.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
You make a lot of money off that song.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
That's so it pays well. Yeah, yeah, it's because it
hit all three market hit like a d all, Contemporary,
Top forty and dance, so you had all three markets
and man, that song is still playing today. I think it.
You know, it'll end up being timeless, which is great,
so that'll hopefully keep paying the bills.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
And would you ever work with him again?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Like I mean that it would have to be the
right song because like you got to top that. We
need to Grammy this time, right, Yeah, But I'm not
working stuff again. I just got back from Europe. I'm
working with some some big names over there. And again
it comes that you have to have the song right.
You get the song and then you figure out that
production and then you put a plan together to you
with the label.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Is there an artist that you would love to collab with.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
As far as DJs?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Just no, just anyway, like a cold Play or Justin
or someone just to have fun.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'm sure I'd love to do a song with Coldplay.
It would be interesting though, because we have similar yeah
and tones.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But you could be like jac and Justin right now,
it's like the two together is.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Like magic man. I you know, I'd work with anybody
that's you know, of that caliber. I think that's amazing,
guys like Timberlake and and Chris Martin, Rihanna, I mean
that do it played piano a ballad or something?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Well, she had a great dance hit to what was
the one that she she had?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Lots had Harris got Yellow a Yellow diamonds? Wait, what's one?
This is what you're for? Diamonds.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
That's our song.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
That's diamonds.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Isn't that?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
No? No no?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
But she sang the other song that was written by
Taylor Swift, m this.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Is what you're waiting for? Oh, that was great to you.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
That's Taylor Swift doing all the right. That's her voice
and she wrote that song.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's a perfect game because she can put her foot
in the dance world and in the pop world. I
mean that's for me. That's where you want to be. Yeah,
I mean and at our age, I mean, where else
are we going to be? Right? I Mean, the dance
world doesn't except all ages. So it's it's good. Right.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Looking back on your career and especially with sole decision,
is there anything that you would have done differently?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I'm happy where I am in my career. I've got
a good opportunity in front of me to, you know,
launch a solo record. So I mean, I don't think
why at this point, why I change anything.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, you seem very happy. You seem very in love
to see in those eyes over there. All right, let's
get to some frosted tips here. After all these years
of being in sole decision, you're still evolving and working
in music. What are some tips for our listeners to
keep you motivated?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Escape the matrix? I don't know. For me, I'm a
music I don't know else I would do, and I
just I wake up. I'm like, okay, Like, how am
I gonna What am I gonna do today to make
this a great day? And it's like I have my routine.
I like again, I say, take care of my health.
I go to the gym, get the endorphins going, go
for Mike, I go for a run, and then go
and studio, mess around the piano, see what I can do.

(41:57):
I also do a little home renovation project. So it
depends on what are you working home? Oh man, we
did a huge renovation during COVID. I probably should have
been writing songs. But I just we just ripped down
walls and we did.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
We went through like crazy reconstruction during.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
COVID and yeah, yeah, I don't I can't believe we
pulled that off. But camera and getting tennis elbow like
screw crazy. But yeah, I just think you have to
keep busy. You just, you know, put a plan together.
I write a list before I go to bed at
night and what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
And a really good way to start your day. And
we do this most of the time. We always wake
up and we say it's a great day. To have
a great day, absolutely, you know, and just start with
that affirmation, make up your bed, because then you're like,
I have one thing accomplished already, and then it gets
you know, then I wish I would go ahead and
work out, which I don't, but that would really help

(42:44):
in the morning. We still do, we do exercise, but
it would definitely help in the morning.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Kids pick them up and run with them exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I mean, my biceps are getting bigger because they're getting
you know, they're now twenty five pounds lifting.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah good, I can feel it my shoulders and everything.
All right, let's get to some fan questions because, like
I said, the fans have been dying for you to
be on the show, so let's get to them right now.
This is from Courtney. Do you see Sole Decision ever
being a part of the Pop two thousand tour? Do
you know the Pop two thousand tour? It's a bunch
of TRL acts basically Otown, Ryan Cabrera, LFO, Chris kah

(43:23):
Patrick hosts it now BBEMCA think's going.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
On bb MAC.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah yeah, they're great different. Yeah, So it's just yeah,
it's like a TRL tour and it's it started years ago.
They were only going to go for a couple of
months and now it's been years and it's just like
it was the.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
First time I'm hearing about it. Oh we haven't been invited.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well so right now, okay, Yeah, I think y'all should
do the Pop two thousand.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
So what do people do? Like one or two songs?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
They get different, Like Otown definitely is the headliner, so
they'll get probably forty five to an hour, probably like
an hour show and they're great. You know, Rock Cabrero
do like a good thirty minute set and everyone does
about it thirty minutes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I mean I've only played the guys from Solo Decision
on one show. I did a show in Vancouver when
my solo for solo shows and I brought them out.
It's just surprised because you're like, you do faded. It
was kind of crazy, like, I guess I could, but
the guys are in town. I should like, why'd you
guys come out? So they showed up and that was
a great moment. You know, I'd be down to doing
something that, like on a solo tour, bring them out
for you know, a few songs. So I don't know.

(44:27):
If these guys asked us to come out and play
a few songs, I'm sure we could have a conversation
about it.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I am going to make some all right. This is
from Super Mal What's your guilty Pleasure karaoke song?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Good question. I've never been a big carryo me neither.
I hate it sounds.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Terrible because everyone's looking at you to be like perfect.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't like it's the worst, and it's like you're
in a well. I'm like, I don't like karaoke, so
I don't have that go to karaoke song.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, I just don't do the last time I did
karaoke with I never do care either. I was Christina
Aguilort was there and nobody everybody refused to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Have you refuse to get out cause they don't want
to say.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
They don't wt to sing in front of her? Did
she do karaoke?

Speaker 2 (45:08):
No, she was like hinting at and then she left.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, because I would imagine she she doesn't want to
sound bad.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Well, I think she was safe from that crowd. Yeah, yeah,
I think she had everyone. Bet Why are you karaoke
with Christina? I wanted I would would It was the
Afterrivers for Kate beckhamsales Beartha.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Oh, I guess I was not. I was not invited
to that.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
You're out of town.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Well it sounds like a good time. All right, Let's
get to the next question from Angela. May have you
David and Kin ever talked about a reunion?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
We talked about this, Yeah, not in in length. If
an opportunity can't it's to have you the right opportunity,
And it's like, I gotta be honest with you. I
don't know if I'm that excited about going out and
performing a lot of those songs like faded, no problem.
It was kind of crazy past those two. I'm not
sure if I'm really yeah, you know, into I don't know.

(46:02):
I kind of moved on from that, but again, as
you said, the right opportunity, if it was the right thing,
all right, I'm never gonna say no, Right.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Pinky the Lotus ass Who inspired you musically?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Oh? The eighties? Yeah, George Michael was a huge inspiration.
Duran Durant and a lot of stuff that my parents
listened to was a lot of fifties and a lot
of country pop and listened to eight tracks in the car.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Oh yeah, I had an eight track player in my
room because it was my grandparents huge like huge stereos
high oh like this and just why we had one
of those record player and the eight tracks.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
And the button oh yeah before you could switch every
four songs.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Oh yes, And I loved it. So I had all
my papa's eight tracks, but he was a country fan,
so it was a bunch of just country eight tracks.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And then the records went even further because I think
there were my dads, but they were like nineteen fifties
wolfman Jack. Okay, that's kind of what I grew up
the classics. All right, before we let you go, we
have to hear what you're binging listening to watching right now.
So can you give us some good recommendations of things

(47:11):
that you are watching on TV right now?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
We're not really binging much. I'm really trying to focus
on on my career again, so I'm less television, but.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I think inspiration from TV.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
The last thing we watched probably last week, we watched
I think the four or five episodes that are available
season three of ted Lasso.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh yeah, we still got to It's great, feel good.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
He is great.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Did we only see the first season?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
We only saw the first season.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
We do that with all because we love television, but
we never finish anything.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
We watched so many shows that then when other shows
come out, we're like, oh, well watch that. Then we
forgot this other show we just started, and then like
three years later, we're like to the point where we.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Just don't finish the last two episodes.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, the last episodes.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I did the same thing with friends, Like I watched
like pretty much all everything, but I did not watch
the last episodes.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah. The problem is you get two seasons and you
gotta wait, like a year, and I gotta go back
and watch the entire first and second I think I
saw four times just to get every season.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
I watched my TV like a movie, a long movie. Yes,
all right, what song do you have stuck in your
head right now?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It's kind of crazy. I don't know why you keep
the thing though. Yeah. I was just singing that my
about three seconds, which is really bad. Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
And is there a movie that you just love recently?
We have to I have not seen Top Gun yet?
Why have we not seen Top Gun? That and Avatar?
There's oh, I haven't seen Avatar. Just saw Top Gun.
We don't go to the movies. We don't get. Those
are the movies I wanted to see in theater, missed it,
and now I just I don't know. I just forget
they're even out. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
But what we watch Babylon just i've watched, we haven't
seen anything. It was playing on the airplane and we landed,
Like why would you put this on the flight if
I can't watch the whole thing. It's like three and
a half hours.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
A who's in that?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah? Yeah pretty good so far. I mean halfway through,
I'm like, okay, this is this is good, So I
do that too.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
On the plane. You don't get to watch last thirty
minutes of streat things, and I'll just never know how
it ends.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I'm weird with movies on planes.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I have a weird thing where like you watch it,
I don't want to, like actually commit to watching a movie,
so I will just watch movies on other people's screen
out and just watching what I'm seeing, just assume what's happening.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Just making up your own entire movies.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
That's what I do.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
You're weird. You're just weird.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I love it. Well. On that note, Trevor, it was
so great catching up with you. Yeah, man, thanks so
much for coming in. I'm excited to see this next
chapter for you. Do you have any idea of when
you want to release any new music? Can we be
looking forward?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I think I got a song coming out this summer.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Oh nice, So we don't have to wait long at all. No.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I just I called buddy of mine who's producing, and
I can see his n DJ Brandon Hart. He's a
he does hard style. It's not a hard style song,
but it's I'm a nineties the nineties.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
But people love some nineties right now, Yes.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
You know, we went through an eighties phase and Kevin
Harris new songs got that nineties vibe to you.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Now, who thought nineties would come back? And everything fashion?
What a weird decade?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
A weird decade.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
But now looking back, it was incredible, Like there was
so many great things about that decade, but living it,
I'm like, what the hell is this? Like what is
mismatched mess?

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I wasn't even to look back on in the nineties
and like try to like so much.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Like the birth of like real like hip hop trumble
uh to country going pop, to the spice girls pop
to the grunge in Seattle. I mean it was all
over the place even and then Santana with like you.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Know, the Latin explosion arrived in nineties. Like how after
the nineties we're just talking about what is? What is there?
Just I know what I kept my head on like
sideways hats No, like once.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Came it was like the twenties thenots and the twenty
tens melted together, and now the twenties are melting in
And I could not tell you which Beyonce's song was
in which decade.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
No, after two thousand, it's like, dude, where did pop
culture go? I don't kind of do you.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Think that's because of social media? Do you think that
we're all so segmented now that we all have our little.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Trend Maybe it's in the little world.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, maybe interesting, it's it's just weird because you know,
the nineties was the last decade that you were told
what to like. Like literally, you watch MTV and you're
told these are the twenty songs you have to like.
That's it done.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Also, now social media we're exposed to so much, so
it's just like so much we're getting through it that
does not get one trend, one trend within your own country, right,
You're seeing every trend from all over the world, and
so you're just everyone does everything, Like.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
You're seeing fashions from the eighties and nineties. But it's
just like people aren't there's nothing from the million. I
couldn't even tell you what's in the millennium. I can't
even think that the whole Yeah, social media maybe, I
don't know if you let's blame social media.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
All right, we blame you of social media and you
Australia too. Yeah, all right, Trevor, how can everyone stay
in touch? With you out there.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm on Instagram at Trevor Guthrie.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Okay, you know, text back easy enough? O sure, okay,
damn Trevor please okay, all right, thank you so much
for being on the show. And that is all the
show we have for you. Thank you so much for listening.
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This was an interesting episode. I'm not familiar enough with otown.
I in particular about what music I listened to. The
only boy bands I like or end sync and sync wrong.
So you don't like them that much. I think they
are more talented and have bigger songs than new kids
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