Trevor Penick (O-Town)

It’s All or Nothing…with Trevor Penick! 

Trevor’s trip to boyband-land was an interesting one! He auditioned to audition, didn’t get the call, went anyway, got to audition again and then made the TV show to compete to make the band. (Don’t worry. It’ll make sense when he says it!) 

Plus, find out what convinced O-Town to reunite after 10 years. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and podcast. Hello,
my little peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This
is Frosted Tips with Me Lance, And of course I
have my wonderful co host, Mr Turkey Turchill there, the
best hubby in the world. I know, Happy Valentine's Day,

(00:25):
Happy Valentine's Day, but it's kind of was it past now? Jonathan?
What are we doing this? What's the magical data the
whole month of Valentine's Right? Yeah, someone's love? Um, all right,
what happened this week? So we're in Arizona getting ready
for Super Bowl. But I want to talk super Bowl
with our guests today because I know he's a big

(00:46):
football fan, so we're gonna put a pin on that
one right now. But one thing I needed to talk
about because this has been really eating at me. Oh
what Um? I have said it before, but Alexander, Oh God,
our baby boy to me has never been an Alexander.
And I don't know if that's like, I don't know

(01:07):
if that's mean to say, but it just never if
he does not feel like an Alexander to me, he
doesn't look he doesn't look like an Alexander. It's just
hard for me. And even when I go to call him,
I'm like Alexander. So we have some nicknames, right, We
call it Panucci. Uh. And I think we've told this
story before, but my father in law made a joke
to my mother in law that we were naming our

(01:28):
boy and Panucci, and she freaked out. She's like, you're
not naming your kid Panucci. We let her think that
for a couple of days. Um, and now it's just
kind of stuck. So I call him Panucci. Anything else
he's been, it's the Panuchi. Um. But now there's another
name that I love. And I don't want to confuse
the kid because I call him so many different names.

(01:48):
And I guess when the kids get old enough to
really talk and know what their name is, maybe they
can decide what they want to be called. But I'm
loving the name Buster, but because Buster James sounds way
better than Alexander James James. And what's the great Buster,
is that that was your original name. It was that

(02:09):
was what they put on the birth certific because your
parents didn't know what to call you, guys, so they
put Buster in peanuts name. Yes, and you even have
a necklace around your neck. That's Buster, And I'm like, God,
why didn't we call him Buster? He looks like looks
he looks and acts like a bust he has I
don't know what that means, but he acts like a bust.
Are we changing his name? I don't know. Is it bad? Yeah? No,

(02:32):
we're not changing his name. I was kidding here. You
can't you were even going along with that? Well, I mean,
he would never know, but there's a lot of families
would freak out, like he's been Alexander for so long.
We can't change his name after year and a half. Buster, James,
who are we? Hylie Jenner? Well, you know what, who
needs to talk to us about this? Because to see
him waving his finger over here? Alright, Trevor, it's with

(02:55):
us today. Actor producer from San Bernardino, California, or so
we know him from making The ban and Ohtown, which
I've gotten to have so much fun with these guys
on the road the last few years. Trevor. Welcome to
the show. Welcome Trevor to the lands. Thank you so much, Turkey. Okay,
so you agree we can't change my son's name at

(03:17):
this No, you can't change the name I mean, I
can't believe you're having having the conversation. You don't think
Buster James, I do like that. Maybe you should have
a third well, Turkey over the turkey. Come on, you
got tons of time there. I mean, let's true, I'm
young and youthful, but my husband's not, and it's gonna
be harder for him and have another child coming up

(03:39):
soon at his age. I'm just saying it solves the
Buster James issue, sadly, your truth. I mean, because my
shade is really look forward, right. You know everyone says
stay in the present, but you know you have to
look forward for things like this. And you think, okay, now,
my kids that are a year and a half, how
old will they be when they graduate high school? I mean,
how will I be when they graduate Hi School? And

(04:00):
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna be in my definitely well
in my sixties. And then if we had another one
just a couple of years from now, then I'll be
like in my mid sixties. Graduate they're going to have
kids when mom in my seventies, and then you know,
as a grandfather, it's gonna hurt to pick up these
kids in your mid seven Hey, you just stay healthy,
lad trying you have another baby, Buster James. Everywhere we

(04:23):
gotta Breakbusters Buster James. And I put my sunglass on
because you had yours on. Now I was literally put
my back on. My eyes are sensitive today, they keep
watering set. But the slightest little wind, his eyes go crazy.
I don't know what that is is. Usually it's people
with really light eyes, and Jacob has that. It's true.

(04:43):
Butchers in the sun he cannot do. I can't even
even if it's overcast and there's sun behind the clouds.
I can't open my eyes in a photo. But I
don't have light eyes as a kid. I just every
picture I have of me outside, you know, it's like
it's Easter pictures and we're outside in our little cheesy
Eastern clothes. Uh, I'm just squ ending the whole time.
You can see a thing. Yeah, and you can't even
do the one to three but one. They're always like

(05:09):
chin down down. And then I learned later in life
that meant that I had a double chin and yeah,
and that my eyes were just were not open very much.
Um So, yeah, photographers are very you know, gentle and
easy with you without telling you like you look like
crap chinned down. Um, all right, let's go super Bowl. Okay,

(05:31):
you know the game is gonna be over. With all honesty,
the game is over as you're listening to this. Um.
So you Eagles fan? I mean I'm not a fan. Yeah,
but I did live in that area like in the
last year, and I have made some friends out there,
and you know, Philly's ready for it was a big
Eagles fan COVID. During COVID, that's where you went to

(05:52):
hide out. Yeah, I hit out there. We were not
really working, um, and I got an opportunity to get
a job out there, so in cars. I sold cars
for eight months. Oh no, crazy? Is that like? It
was crazy? But you're yeah, But then during the COVID,
who's actually a massed up? It was Actually it was

(06:13):
a good experience. It was I was happy to do it. Um.
It brought me to the East Coast, which my first
time kind of being away from California when I wasn't
in Orlando, which was way different. Obviously a different time
when you're in a boy band and you're live in
a different state which you're never in. Um So yeah,
I can't wait too Now I'm trying to move to
New York City, New York. But have you never lived

(06:35):
in New York before? Always wanted to since I was
a little boy. Yeah, everyone needs to live in New
York just a little bit of their life in New
York like that, because it really it just it does
change you, just having to live in such a melting
pot of a city that you're on top of everyone. Yeah. Sure,
it teaches you a lot of things of things. Uh. Absolutely,

(06:57):
it's it's a it's a it'll eat you up New
York cans. So yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna get enough. Yeah.
New York in my twenties was amazing because I had
the energy for Yes, Now when I go to New York,
I'm just I gotta go to bad guys. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't know how much of the nightlife I'm gonna
have being forty three now, you know, it's a little

(07:18):
for me. It's more about the energy and the work
going there for work. Class of ninety seven, we are
the same age. Where did you go to high school? So,
Rancho Cucamonga, that's just Rancho Cucamonga high School class of
nineties seven. Yeah, we're just talking before we got on
about like three unions and stuff, and then our thirty
is coming up. I was a class president, so but

(07:41):
to like plan those things and it's crazy, man, that's right.
The president has to be the one to planet. Did
you go to your previous one? Yeah? I never got
to go to mind every time there was a tenure.
I guess we've done the twenty here. I've always been
doing doing something like I was on Broadway. It's something
you just could not get away from. And I'm still
super close with my high school friends. So I feel

(08:02):
like when I go back to Mississippi, it's a reunion
no matter what. We'll go to New Orleans and the
whole crew will come down. So I do feel like
we do keep in touch a lot, but I want
to see the main people you would want to see,
but you want to see the expanded those like you know, yeah,
yeah because my memory, man, yeah, because someone you know, well,

(08:28):
because we have a big group text and they're like, oh,
you know, did you hear blah blah blah blah, you
know whatever passed away? And I'm like, and I look
back and like, I don't. I can't even recall the
name anymore. And I used to be so good at
that and I probably have like twenty classes with them.
Figure out who this person? Why does this have this
conversation with some of the other day It's like I
used to I mean, I'm still pretty I'm a pretty

(08:49):
good memory. I'm able to like pull dates. I'm always like, oh,
that was the time we did this, or that was
this place in that place, And I just find it
it's getting harder to pull those nuggets. Has just getting hard.
That's what happens. Yes, we know, that's what we got.
We got. It happens with the class of the class
of two thousand thousand five. That's like it's like the

(09:12):
miss like the bridge and like you don't they don't
know what they are, you know, because they're not quite
to like the Instagram like age. But then they were
quite yeah, you know, like Facebook started the bridge the
year after I graduated high the year I was a
senior in high school, Facebook started. But you had to
be in college, right, so you got to get out.
I had it like the second year because I remember

(09:33):
Facebook when I was dating Ben and he had just
gotten out of college and he was a big that's
how to learn about Facebook? What does his Facebook thing
He's like, it's a college social media thing, um, and
that he was the first person to put me on Facebook. Yeah,
but I think he's the same age as you, and
he's little than me. What a little older? What kind
of aids me with all your right? Same? God? What

(09:59):
a dog you are? Oh my god? So when did
you so out of high school? You went to college?
You went to two years. I'm major in theater, um. Yeah,
and my plan was to graduate there and then I
was going to go to n y U. I was
gonna get my masters, and then I wanted to be
a thespian in New York, but that got derilled with

(10:20):
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(11:04):
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listen to your podcasts. Okay, so how did this audition
come about? What year is it? And how did you hear?
Year is my third year of college and uh, my

(11:27):
best friend Joel, who you know is there a tour
manager now full circle. He worked for the school papers
right when the internet was coming out, and um, you know,
he came home. Were roommates at the time. He came
home and he's like, yo, I saw this thing. Lou
Polo and the guy put together back she boys in sync.
He's putting together a new band or whatever. We got
send in the tape like at that point it was
nineteen That was the music that was everywhere. You know,

(11:50):
we were like infraternity playing back in sync. That was
it right there, you know, and my cool, let's make
a video, like so we rented out some space in
the college, got like a video VHS and we made
a video, sent it in as me and him singing
tearing on my heart dancing like I did, like some tap.
I'm like, I can tap too. I took one semester

(12:13):
that so I couldn't tap, but I wanted to put
that on the video so I can show, you know,
like an tap. And so we sent it into trans
con and uh, you know, giving your emails whatever. Like
a week later, Joel got an email It's like, dear Joel,
You've been selected to appear in front of a panel
of judges at the Hard Rock Cafe in Los Angeles.
And I'm like, oh shoot, I'm like, let me check it. Well,

(12:36):
I just set my email up though, so I was like,
maybe it's not working. Let me check. So check the
next day, nothing, Check, the next day. Nothing. And it's
coming up on the day where he's supposed to go,
and you know, he's like, go with me, and I'm like, dude,
like when we set the typing together, you know what
I mean, Like they saw you and me and they

(12:57):
gave you the thing to be there, Like just go.
I don't want to go. You know, you could still
walk in audition, you can still like wait in the
line like American I don't like the general public, and
I'm like I just don't want to go, and he's like,
come on, I don't want to drive to l A
by myself. We're in Orange County. Basically begged me to go,
and then I went and then I got picked. Oh
my god, well how did you Did they make a
mistake or how did they So when he got there,

(13:18):
they had a lady checking everybody in and if you
were preregistered. So he goes up. He's like, yeah, Joel Holginson,
you know, da da da. She's like, oh, yeah, right here,
you'll be in the first like whatever, twenty five people.
And I'm like, you know what, I'm like, I was
on the tape with him, like Trevor panic, like yeah,
yeah exactly. And she's like, what is it panic. I'm
like yeah, panic. She's like looking, She's like no, She's like,

(13:38):
I don't have you on here. It's like, but you
know you can wait in the you know, you wait
in the long line. I'm like, oh great, So I
go wait in the long line. And this is actually
a crazy story. I'm in the line. I'm like super nervous.
I'm literally singing tearing on my heart on repeat just
to myself in the line, you know, back and forth,
just like I'm just in this mode. I'm like probably

(13:58):
about a good hour and a half way and this
guy is just walking down the line Andy Gross. I
don't know if you know who that is. He works
for trans trans. He's walking down the line and he
just comes right up to me and he looks at me.
He goes, what's your name? Man, I'm like Trevor. He's
like you read an audition, Like yeah, it's like, all right,
come on. He just skips everybody and letally walk walking

(14:19):
right up to the front. Somebody's about to walk up
to to to sing and he just goes, hold on, sir,
stops him and he goes, I got Trevor right here
and puts me right in front of Loo and everybody.
And I was like, how did he know? I have
no idea. He just said he saw it. He just
had had it. He could just see me, and it
was so crazy. And that just shows you right there.
You know, most people would just be like, I'm not

(14:39):
going right and it's gonna be a waste of my time.
But you did it. You showed up, you went through it,
and look look what happened. So like, never give up up.
You never know what's gonna happen where you're going to
get discovered, get discovered to end up talking to me,
I mean, the pinnacle of your life. All r let's

(15:00):
talk have a long story. That was a long one,
but that's the story I've never heard before. This is
what's great about this show. You know, I don't know
much about other bands how they started, especially individually, like
your background, and it's so interesting to me, Like, I
love getting to know you guys on this level because
there's so many similarities to all of our stories and

(15:22):
people listening right now, not even music but other industries, like, yeah,
that kind of sounds like how I started. It's just
it's fascinating to me. Um, I love it. I love
our little world we live. It's a little cloth are
not so secret boy band society, that's what we're calling it.
All right, back to the Super Bowl. So Turkey and
I just got back from Arizona. We were doing an

(15:43):
NFL event, which was so great. Uh So, NFL and
GLAD have gotten together. This is the second year they've
done it. Because, as you know, professional sports, any kind
of sports, it doesn't really include many LGBT members. It's
very kind of hidden, invisible, fans and players very hard
to come out in sports, you know, the locker rooms
are still very hard to deal with. But it's getting better.

(16:06):
And there's some great players called NASSA. You know, there's
all kinds of really great players, you know, coming out,
And the NFL has finally decided to be really vocal
about accepting LGBTQ members. And so this is the second
annual party they've done with GLAD and it was beautiful.
So we went and I hosted it, UM and Roger Goodell,

(16:27):
you know, made the opening speech. I mean, you had
like the commissioner himself sanctioning this whole event, this little cute,
little gay party, and it was just beautiful. I didn't
know that Roger had a gay brother, Um, and that
really kind of opened his eyes to knowing that our
community needs, you know, a lot of love, especially in sports.
So they're really really trying to make this happen where

(16:50):
we're welcomed and and more events for our community, which
thank you, Roger. But Betty who performed incredible panel of
all these leaders and I mean the head of GLAD
and like Reese Witherspoon's production company to newly out players,
there was one guy Byron what is his Byron? I

(17:10):
think he's a senior in he was the first UH
player to come out at a HBCU. Okay, HBCU Okay,
I don't know. But he was just a lovely guy,
very cute by the way, Like just like this is
he's gonna be a good spokesperson because the gays are
gonna love sports because of this guy. That's what sports

(17:31):
is it. But I mean he definitely will get picked
up by the NFL, which will be you know, really
nice and just not hiding it. He's like, I'm never
gonna hide it. I don't care. Um gets a lot
of hate but gets a lot of love Byron Byron
Perkins yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lovely guys. So it was
just a really great experience Arizona. I haven't really been

(17:54):
to that. I mean we toured there, but I've never
really seen Arizona, and so we stayed at this place
called the Phoenician, Uh Scottsdale. Yeah, I wish I golfed, Man,
if we would have so many amazing opportunities if we golfed,
because we get asked every week to go to some
incredible place and here, you know, we want you to

(18:18):
go golfing with Tom Hanks in the Bahamas for this
charity thing. But we never go because I'm gonna leave
you my card when this happens. But I say, would
you take someone who's, you know, a couple of slacks down?
Just I love golfing, but I'm so bad at it
that I never want to hinder anyone else's game, and

(18:38):
so I'm embarrassed. I'm really embarrassed. But if we learned
how to really play, we would have a nice, a
nice life. It's it's the best. It's such like a
great equalizer too. When you play, and you when you
get comfortable playing, like I go play on tour like
with you know, I'll just show up at the course
and play with strangers. You talk to these people that
are you know, are doing that. You know, it's it's
always it's a cool thing. You What I could never

(19:01):
understand is which you know, because Justin's a huge golfer,
and so it's Chris, uh yeah, I play with Chris. Yeah.
I mean, and and you guys. And I see like
Nick Carter and all the Battery boys, like every time
I see them on Instagram, they're on the golf course.
And there. I mean, everyone's on tour heavily working their
asses off, and me, I'm thinking, I just want to
sleep in, But all you guys are on the freaking

(19:22):
golf course at six in the morning after the craziest
work week, and that's the last thing I want to do.
You can actually wake up for golf, It's crazy. It's
one of the easiest things to wake up for. It
would be so hard for me. And the other thing
is there's no way I could play golf when it's hot.

(19:42):
And the fact that some of you guys can go
to Palm Springs in July twenty degrees and love to
play golf at new there, there's a lot of people
that will not do that. I'm one of them. The
only time I'm playing Pop Springs in July is if
we te off like six am. And even sometimes we
get to the turn, which is the nine holes after
nine holes called the turn, that's when you like get

(20:05):
the halfway house. So sometimes when if it's too hot,
it's already a hundred and five, will just we're done,
let's go to pool. What do you what do they
call it? What's the number? I'm an eleven point three, Oh, Okay,
what does that but be like a hundred and something
you'd probably be like, uh, guys, I'm a thirty handicap.

(20:26):
That means you would like shoot a hundred. Okay, guys,
I can't drive really well. I can't put Okay, I'll
get I'll get to the hole in two and then
all of a sudden, twenty D. Yeah. I think I
don't know that's what you said. You drive good. I
thought you're talking about the cart. You're talking about this
wing now that you could get off the team, I

(20:48):
was confused to know. But I do love driving the
cart and having a and for some reason, only Cool's light,
like cold Coors light is the only thing I like
to drink. The Blue Mountains. He's a classic guy. The
only place you can drink and drive like and feel
good about it is the golf course. What's your Where's
your favorite place to play? Is there a certain oh?

(21:10):
I mean any play the Where were the most place
I'd love to play? Augusta, which is like where they
play the Masters every year? Um Pebble Beach. I had
a Pebble Beach trip planned, but COVID happened. We didn't go.
But I have played an awesome course called Whistling Straights,
which is where they have like the PJA Championship. They
just had the Ryder Cup there. That was awesome. Whistling

(21:31):
straight whistling straights, it's in Wisconsin. That sounds like whistling.
Something to do with me too, movement stressing straight straights,
Whistling Straights, that's incredible. Oh my gosh. Hey everyone, it's

(21:53):
Dean Unglert and Kaylan Miller Keys and Jared Haven. I'm
I'm here. I'm here to guys, hosts of the new podcast.
Help we suck at being newlyweds because I guess we
just don't suck at dating anymore. No, I mean your
newly weds. I am not a newlywed anymore. I'm curious
if I sucked at being a newlywed. I don't think so.
I mean I I made it to the altar and

(22:15):
I am so happy to be joining you guys. I
can't wait to talk about relationships, marriage and just everything
in between. It's about time we have someone smart to
join this podcast. It's too long between us. This young
lady is a broadcast journalism major. She knows what she's doing.
I'm so excited. To be hosting a podcast with my
soon to be wife and of course my best friend Jared.
How's it gonna make you feel working together? Now? You

(22:36):
guys live together, we're together, gonna get married. Yeah, it'll
be interesting. You're gonna get tired of each other? Absolutely, yes.
Be sure to listen to help we suck at being
newlyweds on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or
wherever you listen to podcasts. All right, let's get back

(22:58):
to your life. Um, so when you auditioned and made
Making the band, it was all already part of the
ABC show that they were casting, right, Um, how many
guys did they cast to start this show? So they cast, well,
became eight? Okay, so and eight really moved into the house,

(23:19):
right Okay? So because I didn't get to watch the
show live because we were of course, but my my
man Paul Martin. Martin we went to high school together,
and that's how I like really knew what was going
on because I had an insider. And also my other
insider was j D Myers, who was also my friend
in Orlando. Yeah, I got a lot of people connected

(23:42):
town here. Um. And then so j D didn't make
it at the end, neither did Paul, but then trans
Cond started the country boy band with Paul Marshall Dillon Marshall.
Dillon had great songs, Live it Up and Yeah I
love um. So how did the final five end being
the final five? Was it more about how y'all got along?

(24:03):
Or was it all about the five part harmony? So?
I think when they picked the eight, it was talent
and TV. So I was like, Okay, let's get people
that you know that are talented, but that are going
to be good television. It's different because they're they're also
casting a TV show, not only a band. So um,

(24:26):
you know that eight was you know, the eight, and
then the eight became the five that got picked and
one of the five quit wait which one? His name
was a Kaika he was from but then he quit
and we got Dan. That's how we got Dance. So
Dan was in and Dan's like obviously an incredible singer

(24:47):
and dancer because he came from the show, and but
he didn't get picked for the eight because he wasn't
um engaging television wise person right, So he was one
that left off super talented, and then when the eight
of us all got together and then the five of
us got together and the one guy quit. The four

(25:08):
of us that were left, they asked us who we
would want of anyone that we know to be in
the band and the eight, and we all said Dan
without ever talking about we never mentioned his name one
time from them when he left until that three months later,
we all said Dann because we knew that he should

(25:29):
have been there in the first place. What was it
about Dan that y'all just knew well? At the auditions
when it was all twenty five of us, he just
he stood out. He stood out, was a incredible singer
and a dancer, and like had a great look and
it was just like, wow, he didn't make the eight.
So kind of just all stuck to us. I guess
that he didn't make the eight. That was crazy son.
When they asked us, we all said him, you know,

(25:49):
And obviously, I mean, he's like the lead voice on
All or Nothing. You know, he's here. But it is
interesting to know how many people probably get passed up
because I mean, look, there's so many talented people out there,
and you think of American idol because you'll were kind
of the first American idol um and then you know,

(26:12):
thousands of people audition now for these shows, how I mean,
And of course there's diamonds in the rough out there
that you just don't even get to or just you
just pass over that end up becoming the next Adele
or you know, it's just it's and and you also
the people that probably gave up at that moment. You know,
it was like, well, I guess I'm not talented enough
and I have to go back to my regular job.

(26:33):
And they never continue and then they could have been.
And that's why the you know, work hard, fail how
do you get how do you know, bounce back from failure? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Um,
So let's talk about Looproman a little bit because we
both experienced that whole Looproman world. Um, you know, I

(26:54):
did my documentary on it. I learned so much. But
the era that I didn't really know Louin is your era,
uh you know, because we were we've had gotten away
from him, we were doing our tour, we were, you know,
just about to finish our whole shebang, but you guys
were just starting. And y'all did time in Germany like

(27:14):
we did. And I'm assuming how how often did y'all
go over there y'all didn't live there. We never lived there. No,
we did. Uh. We did an extended tour there. We
did like a thirties five city double decker tour like
and we visited a bunch for press. You know. Between
the two albums um and what label did y'all sign with?
We were with Clive, so you were that was That's

(27:37):
the only reason why I'm here with you right now
at this moment. Clive Clives the Man and his Grammy
parties are God. So did you ever get to because
one of my favorite things about Clive's Grammy party is
he introduces new acts, or at least one act, and
it's always someone that goes off to blow up. I

(27:57):
remember Alicia Keys, Alicia Keys there for that one. He
was like this brand new artist, Alicia Keys, like Okay,
let's see what you got and just blew us all away.
And then of course we met her at our our
album release party because we were the first acts he
signed on Jay Records when he left Ariosto and started Jay.
We were the we were the first act he released. Yeah,

(28:20):
and at our release party, she was there. She wasn't
she was not Alicia Keys. Yet he was telling us like, hey, guys,
this she's gonna be here, She's gonna be in the
next thing. She's the next one. I'm you know, releasing.
We have like a red carpet picture with her that night,
and she has like one of those big brown hats
that she always wore in the beginning. Like, yeah, she
was incredible. I love the fact that we were on
the same label as her. I mean, how great is

(28:41):
that we got to fly in a private jet with
her one time to Monico for the World Music Awards.
That was crazy. They're like, yeah, you're gonna fly with Alicia.
We're like, oh awesome. At this point she was leash keys,
you know, so we had met her before and then
now we got to like, he gets behind you the
same thing. It was another Grammys when I met Shakira

(29:03):
for the first time, and I think she might have
been with Tommy Mottola because I don't think it was Clyde,
but we were. We were at the same dinner table
and she was sitting right next to me. But I
remember we couldn't really communicate much because she didn't speak
English at that time and now she speaking on completely fluid.
But she was so brand new. She was just kind
of learning English. Um, but I remember them telling me, oh,
this girl is gonna be huge, and then about yeah,

(29:25):
six months later like oh that's the girl that lovely
lovely lovely? Do you uh do you talk to Clive anymore?
You know, we ended up getting dropped. We still talked
to a lot of the people from his label though,
you know, Andrew Berkelwitz, Um, we always are talking about
now are you all doing this independently? Now? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah,

(29:48):
we we do everything. So last time, obviously Lou was
involved in everything you know, and TV show and MTV,
and we had all these like conglomerates like now what
we just had to get back together and do everything.
It's like it's pretty much just been us and when
because y'all took a little break us and then what

(30:11):
what made you all decide to come back together and say, guys,
let's do it again? Because I'm seeing that a lot
with groups, I mean, like Big Tom Rush and you
know different are we call them legacy bands? Now? You
know it's like yeah, I mean the older we get
it's like if you become like a legacy band, you
basically can tour the rest of your life. Because you
got that fan base, it's gonna exactly so incredible. So

(30:34):
you I mean, you'll be able to work the rest
of your life just because your fan base and being
a legacy. Um, why did y'all want to come back together? Um?
You know in like you know, Twitter started like whatever
blowing or whatever, and like Jacob was leaving Nashville and
he was like trying to kind of doing solo stuff,
and every time he would talk to anybody about his

(30:55):
soul stuff, they would always ask, you know, when's the
band getting back to ye oh yeah, we're in the studio,
but like, hey, what's up the hotel? Like what do
you when are they? You know, everyone just always asked
I'm always asking the just kind of like maybe this
is a thing. So then he just like kind of
tweeted out oh Town reunion and then like press Hilton
picked it up. But it was kind of simple guys
like and then so we just had a conversation, you know, hey,

(31:16):
do we want to do this? Like Okay, are you
guys down? Like how are we going to go about this? Yeah,
we gotta find out if everybody's on board and does
there have to be a leader to make this happen
because like with my group, we said it all the time,
like yes, people want us to get back together do
music tour, and a bunch of was like, I mean yeah,
but just nothing's ever really been presented and no, And

(31:37):
there's the problem is there's no one in my group
that just kind of would lead the charge. We always
needed someone to be like put like herd us cats
and you know, we'll show up at work. But none
of us wanted to manage our group. Uh but with
you guys, like was there a certain person that Okay,
who's that? So Jacob Jacob went to business school and
like comes from a business family and was like, guys

(31:57):
like I would love to manage this. I would love
to do the stuff, you know, Like okay, if that's
what we're gonna do. So he did and we we
signed with We got like a guy Billy Wood. He
was an agent for um god what agency was a
big agent. But he was in London and he's like,

(32:19):
I could get someone to sign you out here and
you could just like we were just gonna do a
summer tour in like UK and like Germany. That was
what it started off to be. Like we didn't know
we were gonna get back together for a long time.
We didn't know we're gonna do an album. We were
just like, let's just get back together and do like
five shows overseas um. Then you know, we presented that
to everyone. You know, Ashley decided not to do it.

(32:40):
So then we're back with the four of us. Do
we still want to do it? Do we not want
to do it? And we ended up doing it, and
then it got traction in the States, Oh do shows here?
And they were like, okay, maybe we should do shows here.
And then it was like we got signed, we did
an album and then kind of song from there, but
you just kind of follow what the fans wanted. Ex
they kind of spoke and then it was like, oh, okay,

(33:01):
that kind of want us to keep doing it. Let's
keep doing it. Well, maybe we should do music new music.
It is funny how social media, which we didn't have
when we were you know, doing it, you had to
have a label to help you promote. Now that you
can promote yourself, you don't need. But it's so great
that you can really see what the people want in
just a second, right without any research, and all that time,
it's like you just put it out there. And I've

(33:22):
noticed that too with some of the projects that I've
sold in TV and film. I just mentioned it, you know,
I'll just talk about it, and which everyone's like, why
do you talk about your projects? You know it gets stolen.
I don't care steal it. I just want to see
this happen. But so many of our projects get sold
just because I talk about it, and people like, oh,
I'll do that. The universal give you what. You know,
if it's supposed to happen, it'll happen. But yeah, but

(33:45):
I'm not afraid of people steal my ideas, like take it.
I just want that art to be out there. Yeah
that's me. Other people be kicking people think that, but yeah,
such a giver, such a giver what I was wanted.
I didn't actually want to come back that first time
when yall did that British. I mean, at the time,

(34:05):
he just respectfully declined. But I've talked to him since.
Like that was when he got his offer for Broadway,
you know, so and at that point, like I said,
we didn't know what it was gonna be. We didn't
know we were gonna be together. Eight years later, still touring,
you know, being having a successful band. You know, it
was like, hey, we're gonna do this little show over

(34:26):
here overseas and then kind of see what happened, and
then he's got this actual job contract for Broadway and
a thing that he's wanted to do for a long time.
So obviously he took that, which any of us would
have because, like I said, we don't we didn't know
what this was, um, and then it just kind of
started happening and then you know what I mean, and

(34:46):
then just like you know, it just kind of became
its own thing. So I mean that's kind of just
sounds just like Justin. It's like it's you know, it
just get bigger and bigger, and there's no way he
could have stopped what he was doing. Um. Yeah, but
you're still keep in touch with him. Yeah. Yeah. I
actually did Hairspray with him, so he was still doing
the whole Broadway thing when I was doing Yeah. Yeah.

(35:07):
So I mean that's how kind of what what happened.
I mean, And you don't ever think about adding someone new, no, no, yeah,
everyone always asked me that's like, well, if Justin can't
do it, like who would you like to replace? And
so many of us like, well, it's you know, we're
kind of purest. Were like, yeah, yeah, but it's fun
to think about, you know, like we would never add

(35:29):
someone to the group, but it's always fun to think about, well,
what would this look like? Like what if you can?
I always say I think one of a great person
that would have worked great within sync would be Darren Chris.
I just think he kind of he fits with us,
and he's such a he loves harmonies, like he went
to school for that. I mean, he's just a genius
when it comes. So I don't know, I always saw

(35:49):
he was he would fit and I think Turkey over
there would fit. Well, it's true, he's a really good
seeing a really good dancer. Stop and then he would
be the more and then he would be the the
young one. I'd be the young one. Yes, you would
be the young one. Okay, final do it? You've heard
it here first is an exclusive as you heard it

(36:12):
your first call the online. Now now you guys are
still touring right now, I've been able to join your
tour for so many of these dates, getting the host
the Pop two thousand tour, which when y'all started it,
I'm sure you thought, oh, you know, we'll do maybe
a couple of months of this, and now it's how
many years later you're still doing this tour. Did you'all

(36:34):
expect this tour to be so successful? I mean no, yes, no,
I mean we just knew we had a cool thing going,
you know, with like with you hosting and like you know,
the gigs that we can have Mark out there and Ryan,
you know, Ryan's like our staple and it's just it's
just been a lot of fun to be able to
you know, grow it, you know, bring in you know,

(36:55):
new people like David Cook came in. You know, it's
not just uh this, you know, it's not just these people.
It's always as branching out like tr Rail threw up
on the stage, your favorite artist Lafoe, Ryan Cabrera, oh Town.
I mean it's it's so fun because it brings everyone
back to that kind of excitement at the t r L. Yeah,

(37:15):
it's very fun. It is. It's a great and you
are incredible performers are just really from from the No,
you're amazing dancers. Thank you. I don't think people really
remember how great of dancers you guys are and your harmonies.
I mean you are you aren't killing it? Yeah? What
what would you say is your favorite song that you

(37:37):
did with the group and explain what Liquid Dreams means? Okay, yeah,
I don't get it. Okay. Um, my favorite song would
have to be All or Nothing because I wanted that song.
So yeah, everybody all for One said come on, let

(37:58):
us have one. We needed this one, the one Um
Clive Davis, I mean that was Steve Mac you know,
wrote that song. Now, it was supposed to be for
West Life. Really it was a Westlife they like did
all their songs with with Steve Mack, and you know

(38:18):
Clive Clive was like, nope, it's coming over here, the
power of coming over here, and we're gonna do it
with this band. And I remember when he sat in
his office and he played us the demo was just
piano and the and the and the demo singer, and
we sat there and like it was over. We were

(38:38):
it's crazy because and then it ended up being like
that great like you know it was. It was so
you have so many of those. We have the one
you know, it's it's it's and it's you know, every
night it's it's it's my favorite part, you know, it's
did y'all do y'all fight over leads? Because with your group,
everyone's a lead singer, you know, Uh so do y'all

(38:58):
fight over like no, I want this one. Back in
the day, it was like very very competitive, you know,
because we come from competition. Our band was formed in
from a competition, so you were always even though we
were in the band together, it still had that like
and then hitting the business when you're having to compete
with in sync Backstreet nine eight degrees, it is it's

(39:19):
like a sport, you know. Um, we're very lucky that,
you know, hey we had the TV show because there
just was not going to be another band that people
would have really let in unless it was like something
like that. You know, we got these guys on the TV. Um,
it was very very lucky. Eric says it best, like,
so the whole boy band pop earraw right is Indiana Jones,

(39:43):
It's the wall Cave, the Cave came down, and O
Town is the hat you right? So but yeah, all
or Nothing was was that, Um what what is? Because

(40:04):
what is an obscure song that you never released as
a single, maybe didn't even make an album that you're like,
damn that's a hit. Damn, that's a hit, because mine
would be. It makes me ill. There's a song we
did that I just actually was incredible. Yeah, but we
never released it. I don't know why that was everyone's
favorite song. I was saying, what about especially dudes, So
what do you do that? Man? Maybe that is dude

(40:25):
loved that so good because it was like coming from
the chest and it was like saying like, yo, I
don't care what I don't had like this rhythm to it.
The amount of guys that come up to me on
the street and just like do that rap? Just like
okay nice? That was Marty Callum. Yeah, yeah, Marty Mary's dope. Um.

(40:45):
So I don't know. I mean girl was always It
was a song called Girl that we do on our
first album that Warren Campbell wrote like super R and
B funk feel like you pronounced it girl Girl. That
song I wish would have would have been a single,
but yeah, that would be That's a good one. Are

(41:06):
you working on new music now? We actually just had
a conversation about this the other day. We are going
to be actively writing and kind of submitting for each
other to write together individually, um, mostly individually. But sometimes
we'll get to like Eric and Dan got together and
like wrote a song for the last album. You know,
Eric kind of went to Daye with an idea of

(41:26):
the piano and then you know, um, But mostly it's
will come. We'll bring individual songs. Oh yeah, I like that,
or you know, yeah I like that, I go I'm
gonna go to I'm developing this a lot of fans
out there when I know I'm talking about but POOFO.
My very first job was this character named poof It
was kind of Barney when I was thirteen years old,

(41:46):
and it was in a book and it was, you know,
gonna be the next Barney, but it did not end
up being that way. Well years later, we're actually developing
into a huge cartoon and a whole thing. Yeah, I
can't but leave. It's actually coming back regulation But it's
all about music, and it's about this Dalmatian dog from
New York that is, you know, the firefighter retires and

(42:09):
has now the dog has to live with his brother
on this farm. So it's like this fish out of
water dog in a farm, and so all the barnyard
animals start a band and so this is like it's
all music and dancing and all that type of stuff.
But with this show, since it's since the idea started
right during you know, instincts like first career and we
started meeting all you guys. I really want to fill

(42:30):
this cartoon with all of our people. So I want
you guys. I won't backstreet. I want everyone involved, doing voice, characters,
writing songs, like I really want to make this kind
of like a boy band type show, like kind of
generated behind this. So yeah, he's okay, he's signing down now.
So so put your children's cap on because you're going

(42:51):
to be fun children's music. That's incredible because I want
to work with the people I want to work with,
and I think everyone's so creative would be so yeah,
a lot of special guests, so think of what animal right.
Absolutely love that. Thank you for including us. All right,
we have some fan questions for you. Um let's get

(43:14):
some of that. Okay, So have you ever thought of
recreating making the band to find a new group? This
is for a horn one. Uh yes, actually that's a
great question. Yeah, we back in the days and think like, oh,
let's bring back the TV show and then will be
the post. I was trying to find the next band.

(43:34):
The other one is uh Mark Burnett's show. Uh they
did it with so many bands, uh rock Star in excess.
So rock Star they bring in these groups that maybe
lost a member and so the group comes in and
finds that member to replace. So that could be a
going too because making the band, I feel like he
did he kind of took that over and change the whole.

(43:55):
Yeah yeah yeah. But would y'all ever do a show
like that? I think so, think so. I think like, yeah,
there's a lot of good things out there that could happen.
We would if actually comes back, that would be that
would be cool to capture. I mean, yeah, that comes
after all the years, like put the cameras on again,
let's go. People would love that because look, I don't

(44:16):
I don't know why he's not wanting to like like
reaching out you guys, being like it's time, it's time.
But we all think it's time, right right, I mean,
like we love seeing your naked pictures out there. Actually,
but come on, let's do this. We want to hear
your voice, you both and you do both? Yeah, yeah exactly.
How about you guys go on on tour and then

(44:38):
will come if we have actually we get to we
get to go with you about that. No, it's it's
that's a great TV shows are are great, and we
definitely would still definitely talk about doing well. There's so
many platforms too. I mean you have to be on ABC.
You can do it on YouTube and it would be
just as actually probably bigger because that's where the kids
are these days. What is one song that you all

(44:59):
recorded that you wish was never on any of your albums?
From Laura Shirt sixteen? What's so that we recorded that
we never I mean you kind of get I have
a few you get in touch with. Yeah, Chris played
this one that I know, God, was it like techno sounds? Yes,
I can probably point it um you know, what's the

(45:23):
riddle of it? What's the riddle of the dyea to that? Yes?
Because he just because we had Chris at our rehearsals,
which was kind of it's kind of surreal. It's like
we rehearse every like the beginning of the year to
like rehearse for the year, right and get like the

(45:45):
new stuff ready, new coreo, what new songs, we gonna add,
new matchups all that, And so since we're doing you know,
Chris wants to do more, so we had were like,
well then you gotta come rehearsal, you gotta come. I'm
glad he's in there, like doing Coreo. It's good to
see Chris back on stage. Yeah, he's having a blast.
He has so much fun, great voice and we never
got to showcase his voice, but he's singing everything you know,

(46:07):
and he's incredible, incredible. I mean, my favorite voice on
our Christmas album is Chris. I mean, he just completely
stands out on that album and it's beautiful. Um So,
I'm glad that he's back on stage, and I know
he's been missing it. It's good he's been a Yeah
for sure. Which current reality show would you like to
be a part of? What would you be able to do?

(46:27):
Could you do Survivor? Um? No, I couldn't. I couldn't
do that. I could never. Um I could do like
the Challenge? Yeah, see I couldn't do that. Competitive Big Brother? Okay,
why don't you do Celebrity Big Brother? We're okay, write
that down calling the cast and character right after this,

(46:47):
because you would be great. Dan always said that, Yeah,
you'd be great on that because you're so competitive competitive,
your social game would be on points. But we have
to talk if you do this, because I have the plan. Okay, okay,
all right, I'm not gonna say it on my Yeah,
just makes you make the call right right right now,
telling you yeah. In fact, my my ex boyfriend, which

(47:12):
I haven't taught too in years, I won't go through him.
I'll go through you know Allison brother another sunglasses are
back on. More ex boyfriends letter all throughout Hollywood. What
did I even answer that question? Well, you said, big Bay,
I would I would love. I don't don't know if
this is considered one, but dancing with the stars would

(47:33):
be awesome. You gotta do. I just don't think we're
big enough celebrities are What do you mean? You know?
You got to know your place. You have to know
your place and no one where you stand in the place.
I understand that, and I get that, like you're just
my place white not true. Two of the big time
rushed did it? You'll have way big yes, and your head.

(47:56):
I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger's son, Yeah, is famous, and I
like that. I do like the move to Disney Plus
because it is it's a better show now that you
can tell they have more money behind it, so they
get really great people. There's no commercials, so it's it's fun.
I love the new the new Dancing with the Stors. Okay,

(48:17):
so I got I'm going to basically your agent now
kind of one not I love right now. There's a
new show called The Traders and you, I'm sure being
on the road, you've played Mafia before. Okay, So Mafia
is my favorite game to play with a group of people.
I've been trying for years to figure out what is
the TV play to this? How do you turn Mafia

(48:38):
into a TV show? And they figured it out. Oh
my gosh. So it's Alan Cumming host and it's in
this castle in Scotland and it has half kind of
celebrities and half just regular people. It is. They did
a really good job of bringing Mafia to life. And
that's one show I would completely do, and I think
you would also be great at it. But because it's

(49:00):
Big brother ish, but the competitions are insane, like they're
doable competitions, like with Big Brother Survivor Challenge. I physically
couldn't do it because I can't hang from you know,
I can't hang because of my torn shoulder. I have
a bum hand. It's just like I physically could not
do shows, which is kind of good for a show

(49:21):
like Big Brother because the more you look weak, the
further you go. That's the little like you have to dance,
I know. But you're gonna be out there just I
know you. You're just like no, I'm going after every
single competition alright. This one is from synth Rocks. What
happened with a Kaika in the band? And does anyone

(49:41):
stay in touch with him? We just brought him up,
so yeah, Kaika obviously quit the band. Then he joined
another band with a couple of guys from the eight
What band was that called Element? Yes? Hey, Julia, Yeah
that's how I know. Um, yes, exactly like Matt Morrison
was in the short Stint. Yeah, oh my gosh. Put

(50:05):
Matt on the list. I forgot he was in a
boy band. There you go, a boy band allowed to
be on this show that I know. We're going to
run out at some point. I mean there is a
finite number, So, I mean there is definitely a number.
What the show just you know, not just going to
teen idols and girl bands. I will say I did

(50:26):
have frosted tips, Yes, frosted tips did have frosted tips,
so that was you know, I felt, you know, great
about being able to It was just part of being
in a band. Yeaheld had to try it out. Even
Joey for Tone had frost tips at one point they
were red, but they ended up being frosted tips at
the end and it washed out. Yeah yeah, I still
think that that making the video with Pop when he's

(50:48):
broken and Wade's doing so. I always watched the video
of like just look really closer, like that's not Joey. Yeah,
Joey's man, Look it's damn really and then they faked
it by like doing the clothes ups off like like
on a chair. That was a good making the video.
Because of that, it was like I need to go

(51:08):
back and watch it, because I never watched any of
our making the videos or any of that kind of stuff.
I would love to go back and just kind of
see that one. Would give me PTSD though, because that
was horrible. Shoot, it was eight hours with no sleep
and it was just in that one studio, right Oh yeah,
I mean I've I've never in my life been we

(51:29):
have to turn do we have to do it again?
And that's when I started really that video was when
I started realizing no one was looking out for us,
no one management and everything. They were just basically like
shut up and dance. They weren't even like hiding it.
They're like, shut up, kid and freaking dance. And I
was just we hadn't slept. We just come from New
Orleans rehearsing for the tour. Joey had heard himself. We

(51:51):
flew in maybe had two hours to maybe rest, and
then they just kept us going hours. I'm like, guys,
can we just and it's all individual this video, like
you're not doing anything together. At first, the first twenty
four hours was like justin, you're doing you're doing this.
I could have slept for eighteen hours before I started
my stuff. We used Yeah, that's the was no no

(52:12):
pay no Wayne is what he called it was Wayne Isham.
We used to be like, hey, can we do like
we do photo shoots? Can you tell us who's going
to shoot first second so we can something? Yeah? Yeah, No,
that's like you think you're in control, but you were
not in control. That no strings attached thing was just bull.
They still they still had its own strings. Different people

(52:36):
your k oh, my god, Oh that's great. Did I
answer that question? I keep wondering, like Kaka, oh yeah,
okay and so yeah and then um, nobody really talked
to him anymore. You know. I haven't seen him on
social or anything like that, but I think he might
have became a doctor, think you because he was like
he was like doing school. Yeah. I think he may

(52:56):
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This is for us the tips. We have to get
some tips here. Um, you are definitely into fitness. I
remember when we first toured together. I think you were
on a kick of like you had to do a
hundred push ups today challenge or something like that. It
was a Tom Brady challenge. Oh no, no, no, I
think it was the Kobe thing. Okay, it was a
Kobe thing. So when Kobe died, I was like, Kobe
was my guy. I was just you know, I was

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doing sets of eight sets of twenty four. Okay, so
twenty four eight times a day for twenty four days.
That would be good right now now. But that was
like my mama mentality thing. It wasn't you know? Yeah,
that's great. I mean we're kind of the fitness like
were We were into fitness for like two months and

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we're like I got yeah, and then we'll go like
Christmas comes and they're like, well, I've eaten. My motivation
is if i'm if I'm bad to myself and I
eat badly and I haven't worked out, that motivates me
to just not do anything. Like but if I work out,
I'm like, oh I see an app then that will
motivate me to keep going. But then when I fall,
I follow You guys have each other too. Yeah, we

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try to encourage it. I literally have a note in
my note section is encourage Michael to work out today. Yeah,
because when I work out it, he wants to work out. Yeah.
Because if I do a little motivate Okay, I'm gonna
do that. He'll get on the treadmill, I'll get on
the weights, and then we'll switch. And my thing now
is I love because I'm catching up on Big Brother
uh in different countries. So I finished Australia. Now I'm

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doing Canada, and so I'll just put an hour episode
on on the treadmill and I'll just be lost in
Big Brother Canada and then all of a sudden, I'm
done with my workout. It's great. I'm like, oh, another
episode of that's right you just posted with the Babies
that you guys were watching. Yeah, and they love Big Brother.
I don't know. I think it's just the colorful show.
But that's the only show that they'll actually sit next

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to us and watch. Even Muppet Babies. They won't stand
still far, which is great. Baby Babies Babies is back
and it's really good because that was one of my
favorite shows as a kid, and it's just as good today.
It's really good. Um alright, So fitness tips, because you
so you're a fitness guy. The fans want to know

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what are your go to fitness tips on the road
and then being at home. Well, I think when you're
out on the road, it's just the main thing is disciplined,
which I do not have. And that yeah, that's the thing,
finding just any time to do anything, Like you know,
if I have an hour before a lot of times

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sleep is important, you know, and you just have to
sleep and that's when you grow. So yeah, yeah, but
I just you know, it's about just setting your mind
and say, hey, if I have forty five minutes, I
know that I can go do something small, down into whatever,
Jim and I can take that time to just there's
always something to do. You just have to be disciplined. Really,

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to me, we did when I was on tour with
Dance When the Stars. I love the tape eight minute
app like that's the only thing I've done since the
nine is consistently and it works. Like I'm telling you seven,
not seven. What are you gonna do in seven? Minutes.
You need a least to have a proper out, and

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then it really is and it's the only thing I've
consistently done and it really really works. So I introduced
it to these young and Dancing with the Stars, you
know people. We did that every day before a show,
Like we would all get together, twenty of us and
do a minute abs and I'd lead the class. So
much fun. But again I kind of fall off a
good bit. Yeah, alright, we don't eat sugar. Sugar is

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the devil is the worst thing, tastes so good. I know,
I know it, it is, and it but it's in everything, everything,
literally everything. Man, alright, we're running out of time here,
but I want to see if you can finish these
boy band lyrics. Okay, okay uh, And I'm not gonna
sing it, so just well, you're gonn know this not

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this hot girl. She's not your average girl. She's a
more ferotic dream from a magazine, and she's so fine,
designed to blow your mind. She's a dominatrix, supermodel, beauty queen. God,
you're so good. You know Liquid dreams from Liquid Dreams,
which is about exactly what you think it's about. You

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better believe it. What year did that come out? Which
I came out in two thousand and one? When did
uh Digital Get Down come out? Digital Get Down came out?
That was the same it came out Strings Attached album. Yeah,
it was before. I was just wondering who had the
first Internet sexy Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that was definitely
you guys were digital Digital getting getting down. We were

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so bad guys, but you never knew. You want to
hear what our fake Uh what liquid dreams used to
be about? What we would say? Oh god, yeah, because
you had to beg so we say it was, you know,
more perrotic dreams. A girl like in the video, she
was like um splash, So she was a girl that
could morph liquid. She was a liquid person that could

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morph into all these girls in liquid. So she was
our liquid to dream. Yeah, everyone, because she was morphing
into all the girls. All right, let's see if you
can finish this lyric. Baby, you light up my world
like nobody else. The way you flip your hair gets
me overwhelmed. But when you smile at the ground, it
ain't hard to tell. You don't know, Oh, you don't know.

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You're beautiful One day that's what. I would be horrible
at this game for sure. Trevor, thank you so much
for being with us. This is so fun to catch
up with you. I mean, I feel like I know
you so well, but like getting to really know you
like this is very nice. That's good of it. I appreciate.
I'm so glad I could be the beyond here. We're

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gonna get the rest of the guys out here. Oh yeah, no,
everyone's gonna get on. I like to spread everyone out,
everyone for sure, because we had j C enjoy the like,
well where's Chris? But I'm gonna get Yeah, I'm not
gonna give you what you can back. We got to wait, guys,
You've got to wait. It'll happen when it's gonna happen.
We gotta get We gotta get the four of us
all in here because I want to hear the stories

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before us, because you know, this is a positive show.
But we could talk about some really crazy things that
went down in our career. Sure we could. How can
everyone stay in touch with you out there? Uh, Trevor
pick copy kope. I'm like, there you go, all right?
And I want to encourage everyone right now to the
Kobe Challenge. So it's twenty four push ups, eight times

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a day for twenty four days, four days. All right,
all right, listeners, this is your challenge. I'm gonna do it.
This is I gona do it. I'm gonna do it
because I can get back into it's bad. Summer is coming, guys,
it is Summer is coming. It's right around. It is
right around the corner. It's seventy five in l A today.
But you know, I know, and I'm wearing a leather jacket.
Is fine, fake leather, fake leather. Check all right, Turkey

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church in again. It's always a pleasure, always a pleasure.
How can everyone stay in touch with you? Um? You know? No?
My number is three? Oh no, Um. You can hit
me up on Instagram Michael Churchson art TikTok. I don't
really post, but it's Michael Turgon. Yeah, you have an
art show coming out, so coming up next week? Yeah,
it's next week. Well, I mean as this airs, it's

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this week, it's this week. It's today. It's the l
A Art Show, which is my favorite art show. It
is great. They do it twice a year. I know
I got to do some more pain. I know you've
got you've got a lot to catch up week. That's exciting. Yea.
And of course you can always follow us at Frost
did tips Uh, And that's how we communicate with you.
D m U s um give us your tips, your

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ideas for the show. Uh, we're here for you, all right.
All right, that's all the show we have. Thank you
so much for listening. Be good to each other, don't
drink and drive, and we'll see you next week. Oh.
I think next week we have Big Town Rush, right, yeah, actually,
because I'm having all the Big Time Rush guys, I'm
just gonna do two and two because we're running out

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of shows to fit every There's a lot of townies
that like Big Time Rush. So we've heard a lot
about they're they're they're really really cool guy. Yeah, I've
met pretty much, I think all of them throughout the years.
And I'll interview to feel my last show. But yeah,
I'm interested to really get because that's one proof I
know nothing about. And in fact, I'm not even gonna
read anything about. I want it just to be I
want to just learn as we go. That'll be fine.

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Who are you? Why are you here? Right? Start? All right? Right?
All right, we'll see you next week with a couple
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