“2004 ALCS: Game 4” with David Ortiz | Red Sox vs. Yankees - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
October seventeen, two thousand and four, Fenway Park, Boston, Massachusetts.
The Red Sox are down to the Yankee three, game
to zero. Surely nothing can go wrong here. The Curse
of the Big Bambino is alive and will bottom of
the twelfth tied four to four. With a two to

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one count, the ball cracks off David o Tay's bat
deep to right field. It's going, It's going. This is
the two thousand and four ALCS. Hello and welcome to
Games with names presented by When Bedtime Julian Edelman. I'm Samuel.

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We're on the search to find the greatest game of
all time. This one is certainly not it. I have
to tell you I think this is a great game. Hey,
I almost what does the ghow up? What game is it?
I almost didn't show up? What is this game? It's
the two thousand and four ALCS Red Sox Yankees. We're
talking game four. They were down three to zero. This
is the game that kept them alive. God damn it.
It was in Boston. We're gonna be joined by David

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Ortiz later. I don't like Goortiz, but I respect Ortiz.
He is a likable player. He is a postseason clutch
as they come type of guy. We'll talk about what's
going on in the world in October in two thousand
and four, we'll take a look back at both of
these teams in the series as a whole, and we'll
wrap it up by naming and scoring the game. This

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is a tough one for me. I remember this closely.
I do too. I was on the West Coast. I was, well,
we're eighteen right here, yeah, seventeen eighteen yeah, And this
is kind of my introduction. Really, we were barely legal,
both of us, barely, but legal, barely barely. There was
there was grass in the field, so let's play ball

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that and if there's not, you roll around playing them.
I'm just joking, just an inside fun joke. Yeah, inside
fun joke. I will say this series pissed me off.
I it was tough because Yankees fans were I have
to admit, we were spoiled rodden in the nineties. We
had four we won what four and five years? It
was something insane, was ninety six, ninety eight, ninety nine,

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two thousand. So I was aware, obviously of the curse
of the Bambino. The Red Sox fans were struggling. They
won in Boston, they won another I mean in you know,
the Celtics are a dominant franchise, but baseball is different.
It was very different, and like I was saying, this
is my introduction really to the Boston New York rivalry.

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This nationwide was huge because you know, we were to
always talk about back in these days, we could only
get the broadcast of your really local teams, and this
was just such a huge game because everyone knew the
curse of the Great Bambino Babe Ruth trade goes to
the Yankees, and everyone you know on the West Coast

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didn't really I we hated the Yankees because they were
always winning. They were they were the cream of the crop,
they were everything. They it seemed like every year they
were winning World Series, and so I was a hate
rafting team. I mean, the ninety six team that won it.
You think the Yankees is buying up players now, but
a lot of those dudes were like, we drafted Jeter,

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we drafted Mariano, paul O'Neil, We traded for Bernie, we
drafted Andy Pettitt. You know, these it felt more homegrown.
So it was a great time to get into the Yankees.
My grandfather was a Yankees fan. I'd sit on his
lap and watch the games astle as a little kid.
My intro is Don Mattingly, who's like one of the
coolest athletes ever. They had Wade Bogs, all these mustachioed

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gentlemen just swiping the ball. Such a cool team. But uh,
I admit we were spoiled. I have to say, as
you know, like a rugged, tough guy, I didn't know
the aura between this rivalry and I just always saw,
you know, the Yankees were clean cut eyes and their
you know, pinstripes, and then you saw the Boston people

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just tough, dirty, muddy Johnny Damon with this beard, you
got the captain behind the plate, vera Tech, you got big,
poppy hitting dingers. And it was just for me, as
someone that wasn't in this rivalry quite yet, I just
felt like I was connected to Boston from the very
begin I understand it. They were the underdog. I have

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to remove my bias here and talk about this as
a you know, as just a pure sports fan, and
I'm a Yankees fan, but that Red Sox team it
was meant to be. I've never seen I mean three
to zero had never happened in baseball hits. Ever, I
didn't think it was. I believe I was. I'll tell
you I got nervous. I didn't. I just no, you didn't.

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I was nervous. You were not nervous. After Game four,
You're like, I go on, Once they won this game,
I was like, fuck, I didn't think. I thought the
Yankees would put it away. But you know the momentum,
the Red Sox are playing with house money, because when
you're down three to zero, no one expects you to win.
So I was a little nervous when when there's when
the pressure is in a weird way off, you can

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really just play your best baseball. And that's what they did,
and they had. I mean, Jeter was as clutch as
they come, but for one swing to end a game,
no one was more clutch than David Ortiz. They just weren't.
I mean the series before against the Twins in Game seven,
HiT's a walk off homer. His former team he was,
he was a twin. What did you call him? He

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was a dented can can he was damaged goods and
I got him. Do you have what was his name?
It was? Back then? He was going by David Arias. Arias.
I think it was his mom's last name, and there
was a whole switch. Let me look into it here. Yeah,
respect the mom, but you know we when he got
to Ortiz, it was like all different. Guy, David Areas
doesn't sound as cool as Ortiz, just because now that's

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what we know him as. And I love this Yankee team.
That's what it was tough for me, is like, dude,
they had my guy, Pasada. I loved Pasada, he was
I love Catchers. And then on your the Red Sox,
they had Verita here, tech captain, tough guy, he led
the team, flag carrier, the team he had a little
was Pete on here Pedroia. Now yet this is a

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little This is Poe, This is pre pre p d
Johnny Damon. Yeah, Kurt Schilling with the bloody sock game.
Fucking hated Shilling. I'm glad he's broke, piece of shit. Eh.
Fuck that dumb video game investing motherfucker. He'll always have
the bloody sock on us. But that's all he'll have.
What if that video game was like Fortnite, he'd be

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laughing at the bank right now. His investment skills were
not as clutch as postseason skills, that's for sure. And
did we do? Was it real blood? You know he
had the blood or was that like ketchup or something?
I heard there's like some water. See what's going on?
What was it? Jack? There are a lot of truthers
out there that think it's, you know, catch up something else.
But I mean everything is said blood from this in

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the stitches? How do you glued from your from your leg?
Like that was his foot? What was it when he
hit web MD? Real quick? I'll put that up? How
about uh? I mean yeah, that Red Sox team was tough.
I mean many Ramirez I remember a sports center every night,
Manny being Manny shut the fuck up. There's so many
good stories about you know, Manny Ramires in that in

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that locker room and just his antiqusy. You know when
I would go to Fenway, they'd always take me in
the little back airy. Remember he used to go in
the back the green wall. He would go in the
green wall to take a pit. I heard a lot
of times he'd go in there. Yeah, he I think
he would go pee in there or something. A lot
of times I heard he was just eating a hot dog.
You know, some of these guys would like, in between

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their hits, they'd go play video games. Like the Red
Sox just had a coolness. Maybe that's how Corich Shilling
did himself. In in between hits, he was playing video games.
He's like, this will be my calling. It could have
been and he lost everything every this This was a
tough team. They had Pedro. Obviously Pedro in his prime.
I think Pedro is the most un hit able picture
I've ever seen. I've never seen a picture like that

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in my life. Who' he toss around in the in
the fight, don Zimmer, Don Zimmer, he threw an old man.
That wasn't That wasn't cool. A fight broke out. We
got to pull the picture up. Don Zimmer. He was
like pushing eighty and he congrats, you body slammed a
senior citizen. Sam, you get in the lions, Dan, you
get hit? You get my eating by a lion, buddy,

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he did. You gotta eat enough fully that that was
kind of guy. Pager was tough guy. That's not cool.
That's disrespectful. It was on the cover of the newspaper.
It was so disrespectful. New York newspapers had old man
Zimmer laid out, why don't you beat up Hans Zimmer
while you're at it? To why don't you beat up

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every old person? Awesome? Oh he's the best, good good
focus music. Oh the best. You do a little hon
Zimmer score to get in the zone. Oh, that's what
I do. That's so, that's what I used to play.
Pregame one of the goats. Yeah, I'd play like the
Inception soundtrack or the Interstellar soundtrack. Great soundtracks. Uh. He

(09:05):
even had like some of the nineties hit like hits.
He had a bunch of those, Like you didn't even
realize there was just so many great tracks by him.
But that's that's what takes a movie from like an
eight to a ten. Is this music? Sin for Me
is a huge saving seven of ten. I mean, like
you know, Danny Elfman, the other one, fucking Simpson song,
Midnight Run everything, everything. Well, let's go back to October seventeenth,

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two thousand and four. The number one movie was The Grudge.
Never saw that when it was a grudge? What is
a grudge? That was that horror movie where the girl
crawled out of the TV and remember that, No, that's
the that's the ring hold on, Jack, we are we correcting? Jack?
What are we this? Locked in? Did you listen to?
Do you listen to Zimmer right before this? Because we're
fucking locked in, locked in? Hold on the Grudge? Number

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one song in America, My Happy ending by that Avril Levine.
I remember her? Yeah, skater Is she the reason for
boy being spelled bo? I to this, It's like, is
fuck boy? Does that come from skater boy? The spelling?
I always thought it was a big boy from cast Ooh,
that's true. He was befitted precede her. Hmmm, I'm back baby.

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Around this time, Oh g Martha Stewart went to jail,
didn't rat on anyone, became best friends with Snoop because
of it. What a stud that was? That was insane.
Martha Stewart's in jail. She was on everything on every
you know, egg beater to breadmaker to recipe to probably

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cooking great meals in the pen. I bet she made
some damn good prison wine. I bet you she was
like a cool inmate. I bet, like you know what
I mean, like she was. I bet you she A
lot of people came to her for things. No one
wants to beat up Martha Stewart. I don't want to
be friend Martha Stewart. I bet you she was probably
she could probably make an insane shank. She's also still
kind of hot. Have you seen her recently? I saw

(10:59):
seventy five and still kind of hot. Am I wrong?
She looked she aged well, very well. Now your type,
I thought she No. One just goes along with me.
Everyone's just like you're a perv. Oh, I like it
eighty one, you're into eighty one? Would you still hit
a jack? Hell? Yeah, dude, Hey man, if there's grass

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in the fields, that's that's what we're calling this episode.
Geez damn dude, Martha Stewart goes to jail, Friends and
sex in the city end. Terrible month for white people,
just a tough time all around. Facebook was founded. Damn.
That's that's I remember. That's like because I was in
the Bay Area and we all had the MySpace, and

(11:42):
like Harvard had the Facebook, and then it went to
Stanford and then by that time, like you had to
be in college to get it, like you had to
have the edu email to get the whatever to be
able to have a membership. Holy shit, what a dumb
business model. I know. I mean, it worked out, but
I'm just saying at the time it only worked. They

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changed it, but it was it was because it was cool,
as justin Timberlake would say in the social network, you know,
it's you got to keep it cool. Didn't he say
that something like that? Loved it? Ben Afflac and j
Lo ended their engagement. Wow, but they're back. Just hit
the Taliban. They are back? Is the Taliban back? They're back? Dude?

(12:23):
When did it are they? There? Is there reports? Jack?
Let me look into that real quick. I don't want
to end up on a watch list. But isn't it
called like Ben ben Low or what was it? Benefit?
Benefer benefit? So they that was like the start of
every couple doing like a one name thing. That's right,

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that's like, I'm so benefer. I was like, yeah it was,
I had a couple. Yeah what was it? No, I
don't remember, but I don't want to. You want to
throw names. I don't thrown names out there. Yeah, Ben
Affleck and Jalo that was And this was Look, this
is pure Boston. A lot of this is pure Boss
and Facebook Affleck. Ashley Simpson was caught lip syncing on

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SNL and uh, yeah, that was she did not come
back from that, I don't think. And also, by the way,
was that the end because of this? No, I mean
I think I don't think she had a ton of juice.
I think SNL was kind of like she was one
of the sheep who was excited for musical guest Ashley Simpson.
They got like Paul McCartney on SNL. Yeah, but they

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always had new like they had new people. But was
she anyone that now we're excited for. Yeah, she was
the young one, right, she's young, She's not a She
was like the more like kind of outrageous Jessica Simpson.
I think, yeah. But she had a good song that
was like the I think it was like the start
for like one of those The Hills or one of
those shows. I think. So she had she had one song.

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I was Ashley Simpson fan. This was right around like
the Newlywed time. Also, huh remember Newlyweds was on MTV
with n oh yeah, yeah, kind of a Simpson era there.
It was a Simpson era. I want to take this one, say,
oh the goat Rodney Dangerfield passed away. We threw the
word the goat around a lot. But I mean Rodney

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was the greatest back to school still probably my number
one comedy ever. I'll tell you, good Teacher really seems
to good. I mean classic. I love Rodney. ODB died too.
I mean talk about a warm up for I like it,
old baby, I like it raw. Wu Tang rules love
Wu Tang. And he did like it raw for sure.

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He's got like thirteen kids, right, Wu Tang is for
the children. Yeah. MLB in two thousand and four, the
best records were the Yankees at one oh one and
sixty one and the Cardinals one oh five and fifty seven.
MVPs were Vlad Guerrero and old Barry Bonds. This was

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a great baseball. This was baseball the best. Vlad Guerrero
was awesome, Lad was good, Bonds was good. Yeah. Clemmons
was the young winner in Houston. Johann Santana Minnesota was
another cy young winner. I love that. Johann Santana and
Pedro were both like top of the game right here,
and then they both become Mets as they were like

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slightly washed. Yeah you know, well Santana wasn't like washed immediately,
but he was. He was getting there. Yeah, I don't
I don't know, I don't gotta I gotta see Santana.
I forgot. He was nasty. Yeah, he had like a
two era. He was like a lefty who just would
overpower you. He was. He was a killer and me see,
oh yeah there he is. But yeah, Randy Johnson. I

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loved Randy Johnson. Was he on the he was on
the diningbacks at this time, seventeenth perfect game in MLB history. Yeah,
he was always fun to watch him. Oh this was
I mean, this was probably my favorite baseball era. I mean,
Ken Griffey hits his five hundred home run each Euro
broke the single season hits record. Who didn't love Echiro
at two sixty two? I mean the fact that eachro

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started in MLB at like twenty eight and still hit
three thousand hits is the most insane I think. I
think he played until like fifty Yeah, just retired. But
he was like already a Hall of Fame guy in Japan.
I mean he was apparently pictures of his dick in
Japan go for insane money. Really, that could be a
good buddy comedy for us to explore. Were just two
dudes trying to snap a picture of each Ro's dick. Why,

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like one of our moms gets sick and we're like,
we need money, and then we try to get a picture.
I've never heard that. Look it up, Jack, Maybe I
made that up. If I made that up, I'm gonna
this could be like a real Sam Creeper episode. I'm
worried and Martha Stewart and the Echiro Penis comment it's
all right, But this was the year of the walk off.
Eighty walk off Homer's dingers in the regular season all

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time high at this point. Hmm, oh, Sam, Yeah, I'm
gonna save you here. There's according to Paul Laduka fairly
reasonable source, there was a million dollar bounty to recover
the picture of each Ro's penis. What I tell you,
a million dollar bounty, A million dollar dong right there.
They should. I feel like we can come up with
like a script, like a National Treasure script, you know

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what I mean. We gotta go, like, go hunt this
thing down, go to a couple. It'd be fun. It'd
be a fun one. In Japan, National Treasure meets Japan
meets Each Hero's Dick. So that's what you say, the
pitch meeting. That's this is basically national treasure. With each
hero who everyone loves, you'll get a lot of people
in Japan. And then and it ends with us like
handing him an envelope and he's like, thank you, and

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we'll give Nick Cage. He's he's loosely affiliated. He's I
think he's the lead. He's gotta be Nick Cage. So
have you seen the movie Pig with Nicholas Cage? I
tried to watch. It was did you watch this new one?
His new one? It was pretty funny. I watched on
a plane. Yeah, me too. Plane movie. I didn't get
through it all, but I was like, it's still pretty entertaining.

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That's like, that's a tough review. I couldn't finish it.
I fell asleep. I was on a plane. I sleep
on the plane. Dude, Yeah, I can't sleep on planes.
That's where I get. It's like, my I love sleeping
on a plane because it back in when I was playing,
you'd be preparing all week and some of your only
downtime was when you were flying, and as soon as
I get in the plane, I would just knock out,

(18:09):
who do you sit next to? On the planes I have,
we'd have our own rows. But Matthew Slater would be
in front of me, Dolo would be behind me, Brandon
Bolden would be two behind me. Gronk would have the
middle section right to the right of me. Uh, that's fun?
Was it hard? Is the energy? Like? Do they fuck
with you every when you're trying to sleep anything? No,

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not pregame, pre game. You know, everyone's pretty focused after
you know, a big win or something, that's when the
Shenanigans start going. Was Gronk tea bagging postgame? No, Gronk
Gronk was actually he was. He wasn't. He wasn't tea bagging.
There'd be other guys that were messing around, but Gronk
was always like like, just yeah, let's go to this. Yeah,

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we gotta win. Get get back man, you know what
I mean? Like, I don't know, I love it. It
was Those were some of the funnest times. But let's
talk about this match or go back up. What were
we doing in two thousand and four? I was at
Game seven. Unfortunately a friend somehow got tickets. He took me.
I wasn't confident. I didn't want to go to the game.

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I think Kevin Brown started. I had no confidence in
Kevin Brown. He was like, I'm pretty sure he got
injured opening a DVD. At one point, I was like,
this guy's prime is way past him, didn't Johnny Damon
hit a grand Salami? Yeah? That was pretty much like.
And then Damon became a Yankee. Yeah, I know didn't
wasn't as cool when he shaved. I will say Damon

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was a good player. Oh my god. He was so
like he was such a pure baseball guy. He was
so patient at the plate. He was he was incredible.
You needed a double for this, he was gonna get
you a double. It seemed like he always hit the gaps.
He always got that double opo or something. And he
the kickswing too, which I love. Yeah. Yeah, he was
a I loved him. I loved him, but he just
looked a little weird without the beard. Did he win

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one with you guys? Yeah? One one? I think with us?
Didn't he didn't he take one with us? Let me
take it. I think he was like the first to
have like a Boston Red Sox and Yankees. I remember that,
like Sports Center. We would watch Sports Center this time
like it was all the time, and I remember they
talking about that. I remember the Yankees then paid Jacoby
Elsbury to big money and that did not work out

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at another Red Sox, it worked out for him. Yeah,
I wish he won nine with the Yankees. Nine. You
guys seen him lately. He's on below Deck like three
different times. He's what he's a guest on below Deck?
His fame on Bravo. H I'm going to miss below
We're supposed to know what below deck on Bravo as
you look at us. Yes, I like a couple of Bravos.

(20:40):
I thought this was a podcast. I like Bravo. What
are your shows on Bravo? Isn't it? What is that? Uh?
There's the model one on there? America's wasn't that on there?
And then I used to like the little Uh wasn't
there a little people on there? What is it? A
little People? Big World? Yeah? Yeah, that was TLC. That
was TLC. What else is there? No, it wasn't Summerhouse.
There's been a couple Bravos. My mom watches it a lot,

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So whenever I'm with her, I'll tell ange next time
I see her. Thanks fact, well, Johnny David, I will. Yeah,
let's talk about this matchup ninety six and eighty four,
The Red Sox Coach by Terry Frank. They were underdog
and it was his first year and the GM was
a young boy genius named theo Epstein. Moneyball, Moneyball fucking Rules.

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That's a great movie. That's a great movie. Too bad.
Theo Epstein looks nothing like Brad Pitt. Yeah, it is
too bad, you know what I mean. It's just the
most handsome guy in the world as this this manager.
But you know what, he was that cool that they
got Brad Pitt to play him. So if anything, No,
that's right. He was Billy Bean and we dumb as shit.
Why do we both think that? Yeah, Billy Bean was

(21:46):
a pretty hot guy, right, but he Billy being turned
down the big money and then they got Epstein. That's right. Wow,
we really got factual. Yeah we got Cachi there, dude,
I really just rolled with what you said there. Yeah, sorry, no,
I mean I I was with it. Billy Bean. Billy
Bean was a hot piece, wasn't he? Yeah? Would you jack? Yeah,

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boy genius. They had Manuel Miers who was an all star,
Kurt Schilling who was an all star, David Ortiz, all
thet St Pedro, Johnny Damon, Veritech, Hap Kevin Malar, Timmy
Wakefield with the knuckler. This was a good team. Yeah

(22:36):
yeah this no more battled an achilles injury all year,
kat thematic games and the deadline. He was traded to
the Cubs. Hurt. I remember that deal, dude. He was
mister Boston, mister you know my he no ma, I
mean that was he was that he was there. And
it was like weird too, because I remember when he
came into the league. It was like Jeter, a Rod

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and Nomar, those were like the guys. They all him
in the same year. They were all shortstops. They were
all stars. It was this crazy era. And then no
Mark a Rod joins, Jeter goes to third base and
no Mar's gone, So it was they could all been
in this game. Miguel Tata was in that era too.
He was excellenta he was great. Yeah. Road the World

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Series for the Red Sox. They swept the Angel Yankees Yankees.
Oh no, that's the sorry the Red Sox, you're right,
Wait a minute, Yeah, they swept the Angels. They beat
the Yankees four three, and they and then they left
the car. It was it a walk up then. I
then earlier in the episode, was that I messed up? Then?
I thought there was a Game seven between the Twins

(23:39):
or was that the year before the year before? Oh,
that's what it was. Ortiz on that one. Yeah, he
hit a dinger against the Twins. Fully messed this up.
Well we're calling ourselves on it though, and that's what
it's all about, man. Yeah, I mean we lost to
the I think ortizes walk off was against the Oakland

(24:02):
A's n O three Alds. Then we ended up losing.
We the Red Sox ended up losing to the Yankees
in the ALCS Yankees. Was that the Don walk off? Yeah, boom,
Gerrit Grady little leaving Peederumn. You know, uh, I will
say they sweep the Angels, they'd beat the Yankees four three,

(24:22):
and they sweeped the Cardinals like this was the World Series,
like you just knew it in the moment. Even for
the Boston people, that was the World Series just to
you know, overcome the Yankees, who have their number for
probably twenty five years and not even including the Curse
of the Great Bambino. It seemed like, you know, the
Yankees were knocking them out every year. It was pretty cool.
Hell Off and the Yankees knocked them out. But hey, man,

(24:44):
I remember when they lost. I was kind of you
saw the faces in the stadium and you saw these
old people who were sharing that with their kids, and
I was like, man, that is the cool thing about sports.
You know, even as a Yankees fan, I could appreciate that.
You know, did you stay the whole game in Game seven? Yeah?
I think I think you had. Maybe I walked. I
don't know. It was a blowout. Blowout eight too, I believe, Yeah,

(25:06):
I think you just always believe in the playoffs. I
just can't. I can't bring myself to leave a playoff
game early. I just can't. I mean that was twenty
years ago. Twenty yeah, twenty years ago now, I mean
nowadays fans are out. Yeah, I don't think see Chuck induces. Yeah,
I think I kept thinking, like, man, how funny would

(25:26):
it be if they blew it? After all this? But
wasn't that funny? Kevin Brown really bitched out that. I
remember being like Kevin Brown, his prime was unhittable, and
then we get him and he just was always hurt.
I felt like, yeah, the whole cowboy up was the
rallying cry for the Red Sox started by Kevin Miller

(25:50):
in the Clubhouse a ton of characters. Johnny Damon and
Kevin Miller dubbed his the Idiots, pretty good nickname. They
took shots at I'm a wanna mamajana? What is that drum?
They took shots of it. It sounds like performance enhancing drugs,

(26:11):
and it sounds like the series shouldn't count this. A
little bit of alcohol can sway a series. Grandpa's old
cop medicine ain't on the list. Buddy and Pedro brought
Dominican actor and the little person Nelson de la Rossa
into the series. Brought Look at that he stood two

(26:34):
foot four inches. I think I remember this too, Hosbula
before Hosblo Damn Like how tiny he is? Look at
padro Se, what a what an outstanding you know? Samaritan
Yankees were one oh one and uh sixty one first
in the Al East, managed by the great Great Joe Tory,

(26:55):
who you always respect. Joe Tory. You got to you captain.
You gotta tip your captain, pure class and uh we
had a Rod who was an all star Jeter, All Star, Mariano,
all Star, Gary Sheffield, that all star, uh Giambi All Star.
Was Sheffield before Mariners or he was on the Marlin Marlin?
Who was he before the before the Yankees? Though? Was

(27:17):
it just Marlins? He won? Was Tigers after Tiger's after
I believe because I used to like Chef. He was
always a super He's on the Braves, the Braves, he
was great. We also had Bernie on this team. Mike Mussina,
Uh wow. We also had Matt Sue was an All
Star this year, Tom Gordon All Star, the Great Jorge Posada, Javiovaskaz.

(27:39):
Oh yeah, Kenny Lofton, whose son is in the NBA
right now. Wow, And he's like kind of a thick kid.
It's pretty funny. He does not look like you think
Lofton was a speed demon. Hey, this crazy thing is
you never know what you're gonna poop out because Jackie
Slater Hall of Fame right tackle is the father of

(27:59):
the one of the fans guys in the NFL, Matthew
Slater for a long time. Is crazy. You never know
what you're gonna be for now, Wait, you don't Kenneth
Lofton Junior, the guy from Louisiana too, Yeah, not related, really,
I don't think so. Fuck we got a double check,
but I don't think so. Man, we are throwing some
bad passes today that you were somehow catching six six
seventy five. Kenneth Lofton's that heavy heavy said, boy, did

(28:21):
you not? Did you not talk about the stopper, the closer,
Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time? Really, he
lights out saves. We had a play named after him,
did you yeah? Stop stop her? Why shoot? Damn a
Boston team with a name after Marianna. I mean, you
got tip your hat to the goats. I respected Boston
fans a lot the way they did the farewell to

(28:43):
Mariano and Jeter. I thought he showed a lot of class,
and I was I was surprised. You know, we got
a classy group of people out there. You know, game
knows game, game respects game. I loved Mariano, he was.
I mean when he would come in, you just were like,
it's over. And that's why him blowing this hurts. I mean,
he's such a he's such a lovable guy too. Oh yeah,
I mean didn't really blow this. I mean he pitched three.

(29:04):
We got to get him on here because we we
we've done some cross stuff. Really you know him, Yeah,
we know him. What did we do? We did something.
I've done a couple of things with them, and he's
always been just an outstanding gentleman, a professional, just a professional.
He also is a sweet signature. Pull up Mariano's signature.
It looks so like detailed. You know how hard that

(29:25):
is though, you have to you know, your signature when
you get in the league is like beautiful this, But
then when you start selling these things, that's an unbelievable,
unreal signature, you know. I mean he probably had to
do that. He's probably signing that a million times every
time like this, So after like you know, you start
signing a bunch of stuff, you gotta he gotta modify.

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He was He was one of the coolest New York
athletes of all time. Like we we love him forever. Marianno,
he was just you know, he was everything. He was
the best closer that cut fastball so hard to no
one could hit it, and you knew he was coming in.
You knew it was a save. They beat the Twins.
The Yankees did in three to one of the lds.

(30:08):
They Yankees owned the Twins during this time. They picked
a finish first in al You kind of liked The
Twins though, because that one kid's movie when the kid
becomes a manager, not Rookie of the Year. That was
the Cubs. Which one was a Little big League? Little
big League? I don't think I saw that one. It's
a great one. I remember that it was a Twins
in Major League. Back to the Miners the third installment

(30:31):
with Scott Bakula and Walton Goggins. Man, I've seen some
shitty movies. Guy. Oh, Dennis Farina was in Little big League?
Whoa clasp? Chicago Legend? Get Shorty Midnight Run? Come on?
All right? The Yankees or the narrative? Okay, they were
coming out of a loss of the World Series that

(30:52):
last season. They lost the Marlins. The Yankees? Did we
lost the Marlins? Did we really? I think the Marlins
won the World Series against the Indians? Did they really?
They won? Two? Marlin Sneaky Sneaky, Marlin's Man, shout out
a guy who's a big fan over there. I don't remember.
This is marlins Man podcast. He's worth having on. He's

(31:14):
seen some games. Huh. You think Marlin's Man's worth having on?
He's seen a lot of games. Marlin's man is you know,
we'll have to talk it over the you know, in
the the board meeting room. But yeah, you know, so
many people trying to come on this soup can just throw,
you know, Marlin's man. I love Marlins Man, but I
got to see if Sam likes him. He's probably got
some shit against him because he I hate beat his Yankees.

(31:34):
Fuck that guy, dude, Fuck Marlins Man. Dude, I heard
it here first. No, it's probably all right. I'm just
pissed this so Yankees Red Sox rivalry. He actually hates
Derek Jeter, really, yeah, because Derek Jeter was the owner
of the Marlins for a while, right, yeah, and he
funcksh it up. I don't think Marlins blow it up
every it's they always have something and then just collapse it.

(31:58):
But it all began when the Red Sox sold Babe
Ruth to the Yankees in nineteen nineteen. That's the Curse
of the Bambino. Since then, the Red Sox pretty much
played second fiddled in New York. The bad blood was
always there, given the proximity and being in the same division.
Thurman Munson and Carl Carlton Fisk. The fight and the
feud and the seventies they were they were the two catchers, right.
I mean it was like Fisk was always a little

(32:20):
more talented, but Thurman Munson was the fucking he was
a captain. Baby that mustache kind of like Veritech loved it.
Heat it up in the late seventies, the Bucky Dent game,
which yeah, a painful memory for a lot of Red
Sox things. Effing Dent lolled a bit in the eighties
because both teams kind of sucked. I guess the Red

(32:41):
Sox made those series that one year, but they got
sucked over by the Mets. That was the Bay Areas time, Baby,
wasn't it Battle of the Bay. That's when the That's
when the Bash Bros and shit, the A's were going crazy.
Oh yeah, Canseikah maguire heated up in the late nineties
in the early two thousands with guys like Jeter and Pedro.
By two three, the bad blood was fully back. We

(33:02):
talked about the Don Zimmer attack. It was terrible self defense.
He was charging them an attack that rivals Pearl Harbor
self in its cowardice self defense. The Yankees would once
again break the socks heart in seven games for a
flip for a trip to the World Series. And this

(33:24):
was I mean, look, this was we talked about it.
It was kind of just it was their time down
three to zero, to come back in extra innings to
stay alive. And then when the next three as well.
You gotta tip your hat to the Red Sox, you do.
And even a Rod, who is terrible this postseason, I
believe it a two run shot in this game. We
had shit firing. That's remember when a Rod came and

(33:49):
then you guys didn't win it for until like two
thousand and nine, and it it was like, it's because of
a Rod. Fuck. Oh, he doesn't get that. Pitt Stipes. No,
he's not a Bronx bomber. He was. Admittedly that was
a tough New York impression. That does sound like us.
I mean, he was, you know, incredible in the regular season,

(34:09):
and he admittedly he admits it. He disappeared every postseason
until the year they won it, where he was Unreo
and Matsui of course went off in that World Series,
but uh ye had a Rod admits it, Man, he
wasn't good enough in the postseason. Yeah, I just remember,
I'm not talking I'm just I'm just talking with I,
you know, from an outsider of you know, Yankee Nation.

(34:31):
What do you guys call it? Is it like Yankee World? Yankee?
I don't know the Yankee Yankee fans, yeah, outside the
Yankees fans. I just remember always hearing the Yankees fans saying,
this guy's ruining our Mojoe. He's no Jeter. He didn't
make it easy on himself. I remember when he fucked
Madonna and all the Red Sox fans just had the
Madonna mass. I'm like, you can't tee it up like that,

(34:54):
you know, but it is pretty impressive that he's fucking
pop legends and hitting fifty homers a year, I know
in the postseason, but he did eventually. Guy lives has
had a good life. He's had a great life. We
love a Rod in New York. Now. I think he really,
you know, he went through a lot. The starting pitchers
of this game were Orlando El Duque, Hernandez, one of

(35:14):
those Cuban pitchers paid for the Imperiales in Cuba. His
brother his brothers were a great pitcher Levon for the Marlins,
and he was one of those Cuban guys where were like,
I don't know if this guy's twenty two or ninety seven,
Like you did not know his real age. It was like.
And then Derek Low for the Red Sox, who was
he was great for you guys, you know, did very well,

(35:34):
did very well. Keep it going, Sam, this is you,
this is the Red Sox answered with a three run
fifth inning to take the lead. The Yankees retook the
lead for three and the sixth. I thought, that's when
I thought it was over because we brought in, you know, Mariano.
Gotta believe. Then in the ninth, this is the play
that really won it. Dave Roberts safe by an eyelash,

(35:56):
stealing second pisada with a good throw but just barely
not in time. Was that a pay? That was a
pinch run? Right? That was great by Terry francona, Hey,
that's good, that's good managing. Knocked home on a Bill
Miller single game winn an extra innings, big Poppy. It's
a two run walk off in the bottom of the twelve.
It was pure body. Fuck with Boston, that's what he said.

(36:18):
Don't fuck with Boston. This is our fucking city, this
all fucking city. That was a cool moment too. Look,
he was bigger than just an athlete in Boston. He
was a He was a Boston leg still is final
score six to four Boston and they won the series,
as we all know. The gaming corner presented by win Bet,
the prop bet. I wonder if I can get Ortiz

(36:41):
to admit that Pedro shoving Zimmer was an active cowardice.
If we can get him to admit that that's then
is that is that? Do it? Eah? You know? Yeah?
But this is this is a bet on me versus Sam.
This isn't a prop bet because I'll try to say

(37:01):
that it was like self defense. Yeah, and whoever he
agrees with this is a good bet. This is both.
This is this is he's like the judge and we're,
you know, plaintiff defendant. All right, I have objected your unner.
Before we hear from David Ortiz, let's take a quick break.
We gotta thank you for joining games with names presented

(37:24):
by wim bet, and we get we gotta we gotta
give you your flowers. He's number thirty four, but he's
number one. Huh. I'm always given you flowers, Big Poppy,
ten time All Stars, seven time Silver slugger Boston icon,
three time World Series champion. This was the first one
we're covering today. Mister Clutch, one of the most clutch athletes.

(37:48):
It pained me how clutch he was. You knew he
if he was coming up, if he was coming up
in the in the playoffs, I was like, fuck, you
see him on deck and you'd just be like, oh,
big Poppies come. His stats in the ALCS thirty one
at bats, twelve hits, three dingers, eleven RBIs, a point

(38:09):
forced four five seven on base percentage and a three
eighty seven average. Just smoked the Yankees for one of
the most iconic comebacks. From one comeback guy to another,
Thank you once again, Big Poppy, my older brother for
joining us here. Man, you got to take us back

(38:30):
to two thousand and four going into this series. What
was what was Big Poppy all about two thousand and four? Man? First,
first of all, you know I'm a big fan of
yours brother. You know that you you made me happy

(38:51):
so many times I had to see you running the balls. Man,
I was like, this motherfucker must be the guy the
biggest ball on earth, because he ain't that bacon. He
run through everybody like his king coming. Like I say, like, like,
I always admire you because you left your haller and

(39:16):
soul on that field. And for us Patrio fans man,
that means a lie. And based on what you just
told me, I feel you. I feel you because I
feel the exactly the same way about yourself. And and
going back to the two thousand and four UH playoff
and worst series, you know, like I'm working for Fox

(39:40):
now and I'm in the playoffs and stuff like that,
and like I've been doing that for years, but I
got excited twice while I've been working on TV. And
it was once what was uh? Once? And how bad

(40:02):
that he have a couple of years ago in the
World Series against Uh, just my boy, Justin Berlander, and
he justter Bentland to throw high fastball and he was
you see how they put the square on the strike
song during the game, the ball was about an inch
above the strike song and the Empire one ball, and

(40:26):
I saw one sort of John Ass basically telling the
catcher bring it down a little, and I show you
it's a strider or up, same pitch an inch down.
He hit the ball to the back wall. Like over
all the fans and I was like, damn, that's some
gangster ship. And then the other day my boy Brice

(40:49):
Harper hitting the home run against San Diego just to
finish them, that was some gangster ship too. So what
I'm trying to tell you is you don't leave that memory,
those memories so much nowadays for many reasons, but one
or then I don't think. I think there's the talents,

(41:12):
is there. There's a lot of youngs that in the
game right now with incredible talent play. They haven't burned
rods yet. They haven't burned bridges yet. For you to
get to be at that level, you have to burn bridges.
You have to have a spirit, you have to know,
like in my days, to play in the Big league,

(41:34):
there's no way you can stay in the Big leagu
hitting two hundreds, No fucking way. I gotta ask you,
know everything is uh huh, I'm sorry. I was gonna
ask him when you talk about like burning bridges and
like kind of finding yourself, did you is there something
that maybe you learned playing in Minnesota that you took
with you to Boston. Oh? Man, I learned verty much

(41:58):
everything over there, like I mean, and it probably was
the best thing that happened to me because I always
had the talent to hit. You know, the thing is
that I was in the wrong crowd since like because
when I first got to Minnesota, they basically want me
to be a punching juty. To be honest with you,

(42:18):
they they the way they teach, they want to teach
me how to do things. It wasn't it wasn't lined
up with the thing that I was capable of. Like
I was coming through the minor league hitting Teddy bombs,
hitting over power, hitting over three hundred, getting all console RBIs,

(42:39):
and like I like in the minor league. If you
look at my number in the minor league, I show
what my career was gonna be like. And then I
get to Minnesota and everything kind of changed to want
me to hat the ball up the field, you know,
And there's nothing wrong with that. He just you know,

(43:00):
I'm a power hitter. You need to give me the
freedom to swim, because that's what they do with kids nowaday.
And it's not like I totally agree with the way
they they do kids nowaday, because they basically want to
tell them that they're striking ours. It's not such a thing.
And to me, when you strike out an underd time,

(43:23):
you're not helping me. That's the way I was teaching.
You eat forty homers, you strike out two hundred time,
you missed at least an under opportunity to hung me out.
Not everyone's big Poppy. Not everyone's big Poppy. Not everyone
can just go up there and fucking hit home runs.

(43:44):
All right, that's what the world needs to know. Okay,
Not everyone just hits dingers and fucking walk offs like Poppy.
There needs to be some doubles. There need to be
some singles. Okay, you know what I'm saying. I mean
and even myself that he over found Romas in the
big league. Very few time I went to the play,

(44:04):
hid in the home hitting. Very few times. I went
to the play thinking about hitting a home run, and
he happened very few time. Hey, you're preaching the choir.
I want to tell you, is I used to just Hey,
I was like a doubles guy. I just converted third downs. Okay,
the homers were grounk. Grounk hit the homers in the
red area. He's getting the touchdowns. I'm getting that. Yes,

(44:27):
Now you have to punching Judy Goling through your Homer.
That's what they get to be ditched. So he got
a little complicated some time when he cleans down to it.
That's why you're gonna see so many strike out. That's
why you're gonna see so many low biting average. It's crazy, David,
It's crazy. David. I got to ask you how strong
was the hatred between the Yankees and the Red Sox.

(44:48):
Do you think about, you know, the July two thousand
and four a Rod and veritec brawl. You think about
the Pedro throwing Don Zimmer to the ground, which you
know many have called an active cowardice self defense. The
guy was going in the lions. Then you can't come
in the lions then not expect, not get big. What
do you think about that? Even even uh mister simmer Man,

(45:13):
Riss and peas, all right, that was one of my guys.
He know that he make a mistake doing that. Yeah,
apologized afterward later on. You know, I would argue that
Pedro made the mistake. That was an old man he
threw Hey. No, but you know what though, it doesn't
murtter all you are. You don't cross the line, brother,
don't cross the line. You don't cross the line. Don't

(45:33):
cross the line, you know, and you don't cross the
firewars going on. Don't light another one, do not. He's
not gonna end up being good. Did you guys hate
each other? You and the Yankees? Did you like? Did
you hate each other this time? No? No, no, you
know better. Fact in my era was when everything comes
down to be what it is nowadays, you don't see

(45:55):
that many braw you don't see that many fight I was.
I basically start that up because my game wasn't about
hitting anyone. My hand was about beating you. I don't
fucking play for the I don't work for the w
w F to be fucking swinging out people out there
and fucking doing it. No, no, no, no, no no, that's

(46:17):
not baseball, not baseball. You don't. You don't saying the
right message when you do that to the kids watching.
In football, yeah, you woo pass and you get us bat.
That's the game. It's contact, it's aggressive. That's part of football.
W w F. Yes, that's But in baseball is who

(46:37):
is better than who you known? I'm saying all game
come down to it. But in baseball, the contact part
of it's very limited. And and and now all this
rule and stuff, you know, because you don't wanna, you
don't want to get into a bra all of a sudden,
a guy making ten million missed three months bay is

(47:01):
getting injury because of it. You know that our salary,
our contract is guaranteed, but we have an insurance company
right behind it. So if a guy get injured because
of a fight, the insurance company had to take over
the contract. And the insurance company don't like that because
we ain't at to fight. We are there to play

(47:22):
the game that way it's supposed to be exactly, I
guess the insurance company and I emphasized a lot on
MV on that on having all this rule. Even when
they throw to preach and preach close to you, nowadays
you get a warning for that. Softened up. It's definitely
it's it's softened up, big poppy. But let's it's more
of a it's more of a company. I mean, I know,

(47:47):
I know they are cross the line. And some of
the things may basically changing the nature of the game,
like the sliding thing a second base, just because what
happened with Chasetly a couple of years ago. This and
that you know. I know that was daddy, and there's
a better way. Wait. Breaking over plak to me is
part of the nature of the game. Taking out the
home player, bust your posey, knocking the guy our homeplay cold,

(48:11):
that's part of the game. I love that I did
not know this, thatcher's no catchers know that that is coming.
I did not know this was an insurance issue. Though.
That's such a bummer for fans to hear when you're
like get him and they're like, no, no, no, we
got an insurance company, my pullet. We're not saying listen,
let me clify this. I'm not saying that they are
changing everything because of it, but I think in my

(48:33):
mind may think it in my own bubble, I think
that that has on how to do with Definitely, I
bet it does. Let's big poppy. I'm not saying that
that I'm an hundred percent sure that's what it is,
But me and my own bubble, I think that that's
something I had to do with because it don't make

(48:54):
no sense. It don't make no sense that if I'm
met at you, I can go out and meet you
in the hand, meet you to hey, eat you whatever
I feel like it because of my emotion that I'm
going through you going to the DL and it's okay,
not okay, No, it's not you know what I'm saying.
So Mob had to, you know, make sure that doesn't

(49:18):
happening there, and they're doing a good job based on that.
So back in two thousand and three, you lose the
Yankees in seven. There's been the curse of the Great
Dambino ever since god knows when thirteen or whateverteen nineteen nineteen,
right after the Titanic sunk and going into this league,

(49:40):
you guys, it's Francona's first year. You got a fucking
clubhouse full of personalities. What made you guys vibe and
fucking believe in each other to go out and think
this is gonna be the team after being down three
to zero, to go in and fucking come back and
win the series? What makes you? What was that? Man? Remember,

(50:03):
I got a whole bunch of idiots out there that
we don't even He was it was no fear. He
was like, hey, listen, just I mean, we heat bottom,
there's only one way to go back up. You know
what I'm saying. Let's say that goes like, hey, it

(50:26):
doesn't matter how many times they knock you down. What
is important how many times you know how to get up.
He worked perfectly for us at the time because that's
exactly what we do. That's exactly what we did back then.
I mean, the Yankees have a fucking h They're having
a squad that It was like, like, I don't I
don't think I was seeing moving forward a team like

(50:49):
the Yankee as that those those couple of years, like
they was bombered, like they was really bumbered, like like
it was scary, Like I remember this one game that
it goes through the game that we lost that that
it was like fireworks like they they he looked like,
I mean they never got to first, but it was
second third and home, second third and home like like

(51:12):
they have they have a team that wow, and uh
we were able to bounce back. I mean it was
it was we have high confidence level, but we also
have good chemistry. We also have good things going on
in the clothouse. We have players like her chilling white soul,

(51:33):
get him a surgery in the training room. I saw
that with my own eyes, Like when when I heard
people talking about the bloody sauce and I heard what
people have to say about it. I left my ass
off because I saw the doctor practicing basically just doing
a surgery on him in the in the training room.

(51:55):
I saw that nobody told me about. I saw my
own eyes, and this dude was out there pitching a
couple of days later in that rainy, cold weather. I
don't know how the hell he did it, but that
was the type of thing that it was in the
clobhouse the motor Whales to you know, go out there

(52:16):
and fucking do it for New England. By we also
had the most incredible fan base that basically started building
up because after the after the two lessand and three season,
the two lessond and forty was basically sold out because
we get them hoped, you know what I'm saying. And
the fan base, I mean, you know, d you know

(52:39):
you know how it's pool is up in New England.
I mean, the fan base over there is incredible and
that was a big part of the motivation that we
had to go out there and whoop that airs. But David,
you're saying, Julian knows Julian came into a team like
he was in the second half of a New England dynasty.
You guys hadn't won since nineteen nineteen, so, you know, base,

(53:00):
different sport, different fan base. There was this hunger to
win when you're down three to er. Is there a
part of you that's like this Yankees offense is stacked,
We're fucked. No, or do you believe like we're gonna
win this? They're taking the mamajuana shots. They're taking fucking
mamajuana shots. That's a good worry even if I tell

(53:23):
you that, yes, it's not because we beat your ass.
I know the result. I'm saying, how did you feel
in game four? History? Like the history is rolled down?
The Red Socks in two thousand and four bounced back
after the three and all and whoop the Yankees as
you know what I'm saying, Like like he was no fear. Yeah,

(53:48):
we know we were playing against some bad motherfuckers. You
know what I'm saying. But who cares? You already there?
What's the worst thing that came out? Can only go up?
Can only go up? Were you doing the mama wana shots? Man?
I do my wana for breakfast? Take us yo, man,

(54:14):
We have we have a we have an incredible team. Man. Really,
everybody was just doing something expresial for us to win it,
and that's why I end up happening. So Dave Roberts steals.
We pinch on him MLR. He gets the hit, hits
him in take us back. You guys get into extra

(54:35):
innings and in the twelfth Big Poppy comes up. We're
not thinking about home runs because Big Poppy don't think
about home runs. But Ray, maybe right here, big Poppy
is thinking home run because Big Poppy dudes does home
runs in these kinds of situations. What was what was
the preset mind going into this app bat I'm gonna
end it right here, We're gonna fucking get this thing
started or what? No? I basically went back to my

(55:00):
history against who was the guy it was? It wasn't Gordon,
it was after Gordon, whoever was in uh, because I
know we're Vera retired to you. I believe on a
pop up prior to that, were you were you? Like,
thank god, Rivera's out and we're going deeper into the bullpen. No,
if you look at my nun but I hate pretty
well against Marie. Did you know, like Mariana was not

(55:22):
a contrat water back And I'm not going to tell
you that I enjoy hit enough when because the only
one thing that I like about facing it was that
I know that everything was coming hard. You don't say,
and I had to make up my mind and I
can't like I had no problem hitting faster, you know
what I'm saying. But Mariana fast was not that regular
fast that you see on the lady basis. It wasn't

(55:42):
cut fast cut him fast cutting. So yeah, I mean,
you have to face Mariana. What can you do? It
was Paul quandtrail was it was po Quantre. Yeah, po
Quandra who his son is pitching in the Big League
with Cleveland. Now I saw the other the other day
and I was very happy about saying that. And uh,

(56:02):
but poke one throw he had the front door fastball
who he threw it at you and come back into
the play and I just realized about it. I mean,
like that's what I'm gonna look for, and he threw
it to me. But she was a good pitch, Like
every everythingle hit her, normally give up on that pitch.
But he throw to me so many times that I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna stay on and

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keep my hands close to my body and tried to
drive it and boom boom. The rest is history. Geez.
And at this point, you know you you win the
game at three to one. Did you feel the momentum switched?
Was there a moment after this home run where you're like,
we're fucking we're taking us now. Yeah, everything and started

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basically clicking. Was when we went to New York. That
was when I tell you, even when we when we
went for the third game, I would comfort the level
that would high, and I'll tell you what, we won
the third game, we feel like we already won it all.

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And that's exactly what happened. And then it's because it
was once you guys beat the Yankees, we don't have
to talk about the fucking World The World Series was
this match. It was was this was this series? Right?
Is that how we felt? It sends like it. It
sends like it, and San Louis know it. San Louis
know that we was How did the fighter cracker, you know,
like they know they know that we're coming in hot. Well,

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that's it's all about kind of coming together at the
right time and winning four straight against the number one
team in the al e straight. Because then they went
and swept that's right. And you swept the prior series.
I believe too. And then you just steamrolled the NL
best team, the Cardinals. Uh when you won in Game
seven against the Yankees. I was at that game, uh,

(57:52):
in the same hat, and you ripped my heart out.
David as the Johnny Damon who hit the Grand Slam?
I mean, how sweet was that? It was great? Man,
I got to give it to you. Man. The Yankee
fans are the only fans that come to mer, the
only fans out of all the teams. The Yankee fans

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are the only people that come to me and be like, hey, Poppy,
I'm a Yankee fan, but I respect you. Oh, I
love you with Poppy Hill. You know people Yankee fans.
For all I played, I always respect fans no matter
what they were cheering for. You know what I'm saying,
Like I used to go to New York and take
my time signing or what I have, and it doesn't

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matter who you were cheering for, you know. And I
was doing that by nature. By people talk to me
about it like, you know what I alway used to
see you. We used to come to New York, take
care you time with the fans and this, and I
or when we used to come to Boston, and I
would respect that, and plus that a lot of people

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tell me when we used to boo you at New
York that was a bad move because you used to
use bounce back and whoop our ass. We learned in
the hard way. So I noticed at some point during
my Korea that the boo wasn't there, no more laid
it on. He wasn't the strong the strongest it was

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at the beginning, and to someone just made that clear
for me, and I was like, oh, makes sense. You
Big Poppy. You were like, you know, it's it's very
similar to how Boston fans feel about Jeter. He's a
likable guy. You respect his accolades. And I could honestly

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say this was before I was even with Boston, and
this was like my introduction to Boston, New York that
you were. I was on the West Coast. I was
a little West Coast kidd, and you fuck I loved
Big Poppy just because you were a lovable dude that
came up when high pressure situations like that's that's what
they was. You know, that's what people will always respect
and remember you by now this this game and this

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series has been documented and and there's been documentaries, fucking books.
I mean, we did the research. You could find anything.
What tell me something that wasn't documented in all this bullshit?
I need to hear something good. Give me something that
people don't know about this? You know what the game is?

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I think pretty much is out there. Everything pretty much
is out there. You know. Why go and see Dany
the other day. I'm in the hotel, I'm at the
end Court and no bullshit, I was. I wasn't. I
was in Philadelphia. It was in the Philadelphia Sunday. I

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can remember. The thing is that I'm coming down an
elevator and this guy, this Jackie fan, was talking shit
about my boy had a judge. He's talking to another
guy an elevator. But it was when Adam and Judge

(01:01:05):
have like seven a strikeout on the road, right, they
were doing their share out of him in New York
and this and that, And he's talking to this guy.
But he know who I am, and he wanted me
to hear what he had to say. And this is
this is what I told him. I was like, hey, yeah,

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have you ever taken a minute to picture the Yankees
line up? Without Adam Judge next year, and the motherfuckers
stay quiet for a minute. And I told him you guys,
I said, fans needs to understand that would ever take
that field when I get things done. I never got

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booed a flame Way Park. And that's why I ride
and die with those fans. I know not. I know
that not everyone bring the same look. You know what
I'm saying. By as especially I was and I still

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be for Boston. I think a guy like Anat Judge,
it's at that level. But the minute you see that
the guy who loved you're going to bull his ass
when you know that he's the best player. Ear I

(01:02:37):
say a lot about you Yankee fans. I'm not doing
Aaron Judge. Well, I love Aaron Judge. Whoever these Yankees
fans were that that's not that's not what you see
on TV. Well, I hear what you're saying. I don't
judge the minut he cool love even during the regular season.
He get the biggest bull And let me tell you,

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I said, nathlete, you would take that from the opposition
when you go to their play, But when you get
that shit at home, brood, I think you're right and
all I heard was that Boston legend David Ortiza is
the best player in the world. Is Aaron Judge, New
York Yankee. That's what I took from that. That's in

(01:03:19):
the world. Yeah, it's him. And but you said, Aaron Judge,
we're going to run that. Uh, Aaron Judge is the
best player in the world him, they bet Hey, man,
oh the why the why? He was hitting for the
met next yeater. Maybe don't say that to me, dude,
never know Aaron Judge better. But you're right. You make

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a good point. I think New York fans are very tough,
and I think you know, we saw in the nineties
Patrick Ewing got booed unfairly. I think I think we
got to support our guys. So I'm with you. I
think we should be cheering Aaron Judge. We should need
to know on what b out of the crowd. You
want to be that so you need to know that

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that's that's that's that's just like Zimmerman. You can't cross
the line. You can't cross the line. Bro, you're gonna
boo the only guy that you are depending on. I mean,
come on, man, come on, man, I'm with you. What
was your reaction. No, you guys not stupid New York.
But now I never thought it was that much. You're

(01:04:25):
dropping wisdom. Man, You're right, bro, you booing your hero.
I'm not I'm booing your hero. Sam. You know you
know what I'm talking about, the only one of the stadium.
What what was your reaction when No More got traded?

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He seems like he was needed. Even if that's my boy,
thing changed for good. You know, the thing is that
you you can't have well he got Remember it was
in the middle of the season, and want end up happening.
We ended up winning the worst series. He has a distruction,

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and he was creating a distruction. That's what I think.
You know what I'm saying. He was chasing his contract,
what I got no problem with. But at the same time,
we were trying to win the worst series, you know

(01:05:32):
what I'm saying. And it seems like the thing wasn't
comfortable with what was going on. They make them move,
and it looked like they were right, don't you think.
I mean it looked pretty damn good after you know,
going down three of them and coming back. Yeah, it
looked good. The results look good. And I'll tell you
why they went. They went and get the piece that

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we really need. A guy who uh basically came in
played with different He wasn't a home room heiter boy.
He was really good a movie running over and doing
his thing, and that help us to win a world series. Look, man,
at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how
good I am. If I don't win, Who cares? You

(01:06:14):
guys are talking to me right now, because I'm a
fucking winners. That's a That's why I love you. You're
a winner. If you don't fucking win, it doesn't matter.
If personal number don't don't matter, personal number don't fucking matter.
What matters is win. You're gonna remember every single motherfucker
that wasn't the twenty fourteen and seven, thirteen, two and eighteen, Yes,

(01:06:40):
because what gets what happened when we won? Don't one
remember the second place? Eada man right there, you know what,
you wanna remember him because he will pass and won
and he uh you know how many great you know
how many great baseball player went through the red socks.
I don't nobody remember them because gets what they never wont?
Semple is that simple as that. Speaking of winners, I

(01:07:04):
mean Chicken. Speaking of winners, you played alongside another winner,
one of the great power hitters of this era, one
of the great hitters of this era, Manny Ramirez. Any
great Manny stories, anything you learned from him? Oh, I
learned a lot of things from Manny. Manny was one
of the best hit I ever seen in my life,

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you know. But money, you know, he got his own
way to do things. And that was him, boy, great,
great human being, good guy, hard working motherfucker man. Because
let me tell you, Manny, I want you to believe

(01:07:44):
that he was lazy, want you to believe that he
wasn't into it, But numbers don't lie. What was he
What was he doing in the Green Monster all the time.
I just always remember he was always exactly what's my
guy doing? He was his own He had his own personality. Man,
I'm telling you, that was hard. That was hard to fight,

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That was hard to fight by. That's exactly how he was.
And what was Pedro like? No, Pedro was more down here,
you know. Pedro. Pedro was more simple when it comes
down to personality. But just like having fun. But I

(01:08:31):
thinks both of them alive because I learned, you know,
part of myself that I don't know until I start,
you know, watching them, watching their work, edict and the
way they go by the business. Now, what was the
bigger celebration after the LCS or the World Series? The

(01:08:53):
biggest celebration, Uh, after you got past the Yankees because
you guys knew you were gonna win against the Carns
or no, no, no, no, we don't know we we're
gonna win. I mean, it doesn't matter with what I
tell you guys right now, you don't know what's gonna happen.
Bab with is very unpredictable. Yeah, we went in and
we whooped them. Yeah that's fine, But we know we're

(01:09:15):
playing against a great team. No, you got my boy
Albert on that team. You got my boy Molina on
that team. You have Ah, let's see what else I
can't remember for that boat club? Wayne Wright, the nasty
breaking ball. I mean, I can't tell you tons of

(01:09:36):
players that we're in the boat club. Uh that made
them be who they were, you know what I'm saying.
And we don't know. We we know that we play
a great series against the Yankees, but we don't know
that we're gonna turn down to be like that we
just went in, how do how does the fighter cracker?
And we swept them back? You know what I mean.

(01:09:58):
Now I'm coming and any crazy, any crazy party stories
from when you won. Were doing the warm in the room,
You're doing the worm big Bobbies. Yeah, you gotta say,
my big old ass doing the warm in the room.

(01:10:20):
I did a few times and they went. There was
stops where you got another series to go stop. Now
now Boston's title town. And I remember when anytime you
guys won, or the Bruins one or the Celtics one,
it like motivated us, like we had to pull our

(01:10:42):
end of the string. Did you guys ever feel that
with the other teams winning. I gotta say that was
the best era or sport in New England those past
two decades. And it was because it was because of it.
It was because of what you just say, Watching you
guys win, watching the Celties win, watching the Bruins win,

(01:11:04):
that was a motivation. Competition, had the really good competition
going on in town. The guys did it. Fuck it,
let's go at it. You know what I'm saying. I
mean being a New England fans of sport those two
decade ofy like the best time of all time because
he was punching coming out of from every different organization.

(01:11:27):
You know what I'm saying. And the most important thing
we support each other. You know what I'm saying. When
you guys win, Julie, we used to go there. You
guys used to come to us. We used to go
to the Southeast. We used to go to the brewin
Brewing used to come. It was. It was. It was
like a family thing. I used to love us those things.

(01:11:47):
I used to love just having you guys coming over.
We're going to you guys. I mean, it was, it was,
It was. It was a great, great time, great hitter
and the most important thing, it was fun because everybody
was winning. It was. I mean, you were such a
clutch hitter. Yankees fans hate respected you because you were.

(01:12:10):
You were so good in the postseason. You're great in
the regular season too, but not everyone delivers in the postseason.
And you did. Who other hitters that you think of
is as just postseason monsters. To be honest with you,
I had to go to uh. Rice Harper to me

(01:12:34):
is one of the most incredible hero this new hera
that I have seen in years, Like why he has
showed this playoff. Bro, it is something that it's remarkable.
It's something that you don't see every day, especially in

(01:12:55):
this era we're hitting is it's it's so miserable, Like like,
I see guy hitting in the Big League and nice
sometime tell myself, Man, he's not ready to be at
this level. You know what I'm saying, And and and
and you see guy like him performing the way he is,
it's something that it's a spressure. Bro. All right, big Poppy,

(01:13:19):
I know, I know you got to bounce right now,
but your son's about to take VP. Yeah, he's about
to do it. Look over there, I was saying, about
to start hitting. Tell him, you know, if he wants
an the way down here to watch him. If your
son wants to play for the Yankees, I'm gonna spread
the word. No one's gonna do him. We could use
some power in the postseason. So hey, hey, listen, you

(01:13:41):
gotta earn that. It's not just saying that you gotta
you gotta earn it, you know. And and that's why
I think my boy, Aaron Judge, I earned that. So
I want it on the record that we love Aaron Judge.
Here we want him to be Yankee. Hey, listen, I

(01:14:03):
got to me. I don't judge. I don't judge once,
just one time. It didn't take me long to love him,
very like he really will representing that organization. But he's
to me representing the Yankees. He's a jitter level personality wise.
The guy don't show emotion. The guys is totally dedicated

(01:14:26):
to his career. The guy just want to whoop pass.
I mean, it's a great teammate. What don't you want?
He just went for the record. What else? I mean?
If I keep talking, I won't finish. I mean, the
guy have all the all the talent in the world
too to be loved, be loved by by his fans.

(01:14:48):
So I just don't think it was right. All right,
we'll let you get going, But before you get going,
can can we just hear it one more time? It
gets me so fired up? What do we say after
the Boston bombing? We we what is it? This is
our fucking city, This is our fucking body, our freedom,

(01:15:11):
and that that this is our fucking city. It was
an epic look, man, New Yorkers were Bostonians that day.
We felt it too. That was that was bad as.
We love you, man, I appreciate you coming on and
I can't wait to I can't wait to see your son.
I can't wait to see the jeans get passed down.
And he's coming. He's coming. Dude's working extremely hard. I'm

(01:15:34):
very proud of him, you know. I mean he's a
good kid. He always listened to what I have to say.
He always want to do things based on my opinion.
And you know, especially in the rather we are living
where the you they feel like they got everything figured out.

(01:15:56):
You know, he he listened. He's a good listener. So
I love it and I can't wait for him all
the way. You're the man, and I support you all
the way, no matter what. Whatever you need, you need anything,
you know that, I love it. Thank you for coming on, man,

(01:16:16):
Thank you big Poppy. Hey, I love your brother. Man. Well,
the Curse of the Great Bambino it was lifted on
it was lifted and you could just instant reaction. Just
superstar legend he was. He is Boston Sports Royalty. I mean,

(01:16:38):
you realize you're talking to an all timer for sure.
Just everything you know, his setting where he was watching
his son here in the baseball is getting dinged in
the background. That's just big poppy, you know, And you
could totally tell, like you were saying earlier, he's a
player bringing in current players. He loves Bryce Harper. He's
pissed off about Aaron Judd. It's crazy that this dude

(01:17:02):
is literally in the elevator defending Yankees. That's how much
of a baseball head he is. Head. Yeah, so they
call him seamhead. But uh, sometimes I'll be on stage
at the end of a show in comics Pete crowd
members will like scream out comics names that they want
me to shoot on. I'm like, I don't, I get it.
I get that. It's like kind of a brotherhood. You
kind of don't want to do that shit. No, And

(01:17:24):
it's just like you know, for me, any any guy
that I competed against, you know now now it's over
in between the lines, you hate them, but afterwards it's
it's a fraternity of guys that you know, there's no
one you still hate. Nah, I don't. I don't really
hate anyone. That's good, you know, But it's because you

(01:17:44):
know how hard it is to get to that level,
and you know that everyone has a story. Yeah, you know,
regardless of what situation you're in as an individual. It
takes a lot to get to that situation, to be
in those high pressure situations and to deliver in those
pressure situations. There's always a winner and there's always a loser.

(01:18:06):
You know, lost a lot of those, and you know,
fortunately enough you can win some and and that's just
how it is. You respect those. You have an ultimate
respect for someone you compete against at the high level,
for sure, for sure, especially being in as many big
games as you and Poppy were. Poppy man, he's cheez
he's got three three three rings. Yeah, three ring club. Well,

(01:18:30):
we got to settle this prop bet. How how do
we do? Jack? I know, I know how we did,
and I know I lost. I try What can I do?
It's two Boston legends teaming up on me. What am
I going to do? I went for it, you win
for it. I went. I tried to get him to
call his World Series buddy a coward. He wouldn't do it.

(01:18:52):
Valiant effort. Yeah, dude, what's the legacy for this game?
I mean, it's the first time ever three to zero
comeback and is it still the only time ever? Yep?
I mean it's crazy. That's that's that's so hard in baseball.
Just like he said, baseball happened any Like, after they
won this series, they still weren't They didn't think they

(01:19:13):
won everything. You knew, you knew this team was kind
of a team of destiny. Maybe they didn't even know
at that point because they had the humility, you know,
going in against the Cardinals said you have to you
have to stay focused. But like as as someone watched them,
like they're gonna win at all, I just I felt
like they were a team of destiny. There was just
so many instances where the Red Sox were that close though,

(01:19:37):
So I'm sure in that locker room there was leaders
in there like, hey, guys, we need to shut the
fuck up. We need to we need to really focus
on this. We can't get this far just to get
this far. Yeah, I mean that was always the thing.
Playing in the last game of the season, You're always like,
we didn't come this far to just get this far.
We got to win it. And it was just cool

(01:19:58):
to hear him speak about that and how how they
stuck together. And I guess he likes the mama wanna yeah,
trying to try it. You want to get mama wan.
We got to get some mama wana. Yo. You got
any hooks? Really yo? Get her in. He drank it
for breakfast, he said, which probably with a cereal that's

(01:20:18):
pretty bad. I She'd asked him, what cereal guy is?
I bet your big poppy loves a good bowl of cereal?
What's your number one cereal? Like most Underrated or Julian
Edelman like every day and a treat? What are your
go to every day? When? I like, when you feel
like you're gonna be healthy even though it's not healthy.
Hunting at cheerios, Yeah, no at all, but they're not

(01:20:41):
as bad as like a fucking Captain Crunch, or if
I'm feeling cocoa, eat little cocoa pebbles or or maybe
fruity pebble. You know, it depends on what I'm feeling
that day. I'm never a one cereal kind of guy.
I like multiple and some. Yeah, I do like to
mix up. Sometimes I'll put fruity pebbles in Captain Crunch,
the regular Captain Crunch without the crunchberries, like a cereal

(01:21:05):
gang bang Dude's I'm here for a gang bang? Yeah,
here you are. What's your favorite cereal. I got a
lot an underrated one. Crackling oat bran is so underrated.
That's a great fuck is that with the people think
of stuff with the o's at the stuff in the middle.
That's a very good one. It's underrated. It's people think
it's a healthy cereal. It's not a healthy cereal. No,

(01:21:27):
it's great marketing. It sounds healthy. Crackling oat bran fucking
not healthy. Sugar pops. I love sugar pops. Never got
into pops. My dad used to love or smacks. Smacks
and pops were like. Never liked either of those. I liked.
I was a big fruit loops guy. That was a
class that love. I mean the chocolate, the ones you
can't go. Reese's Peanut butter Puffs was crack. Remember when

(01:21:47):
that came out. Yeah, that was crack. That was That's
not breakfast, that's you know. That's the thing is I
I tend to stay away from the puffs and go
with more of the pebbles because of the roof of
my mouth. The roof can get fucked up. And that's
why I love the taste of Florida in September. Am
I right? All right? Yeah? Well but you know, you

(01:22:12):
eat some Captain Crunch. I love Captain Crunch and the
crunch berries, but then I can't eat for two days.
The roof damage is real. It's the same effect as
when you take a piping hot bite of pizza and
the cheese slides off and you get that little burn.
This is the breakfast version of that Captain crunch. And
you can't not eat pizza piping hot unless it's refrigerator cold,

(01:22:36):
which I'm fine with it. I'm cool with cold pizza,
but I love a hot hotli. Well, yeah, it either
has to be burning my mouth or it has to
be refrigerator cold for me. I can't do this fucking
sind out for three hours thing. Yeah, that's horrible. Lukewarm pizzas, Like,
what are we doing? I want a hard stance, definitely
all right. So the broke the broken Curse of the

(01:22:57):
Bambino is really the legacy of this game. Boston winning
a three to zero comeback. I mean, I hate to
say it. There's so many legacies in this game going on.
That's why it's starts of legacies. It is one of
the most iconic series and games. And it hurts to
say this because this is kind of we did the
eighteen wins in one Giant loss game, and this is

(01:23:19):
kind of the flip of that where you got to
give it up. I mean, this is an incredible you
know how I think wins, everyone wins, not everyone lost.
New York lost. The New York Boston rivalry that this
it just nourishes it. Yeah, you're right, it wasn't a
rivalry at this point. It was a rivalry, but Boston
had won, hadn't won, and it makes that Boston New

(01:23:42):
York thing like just that much better because, you know, rivalry,
both teams have to win. That's why I never really
thought that, you know, the New York Jets were rivals
because they don't really beat us. But then you go
with the Giant. Remember time Mark Sanchez knocks you guys
out though, right, if you gotta win a super Bowl
to have that, you know, he's also the guy that

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they hadn't won at this point. So then this game
doesn't count either, yeah, because they hadn't won at this point.
They hadn't so but afterwards the aftermath, because true, you know,
it would have been a rivalry potential for one year
if the Jets went on to win one of those
Super Bowls. I wish they won one. Just a championships. Well, yeah,

(01:24:24):
this is a classic. They did a thirty for thirty
called four Days in October on this. Yeah, I will
not be watching, no, be sitting that one out. What's
the lasting image for this? It's got to be something
Big Poppy related or definitely that. And I I just
remember watching Sports Center and you would see all these

(01:24:46):
old Boston people, like I'm talking like eighty year olds,
ninety year olds crying. Yeah, you know, people like this
was like that was such a huge thing for Boston people.
They love they of the Red Sox. It's a beautiful
thing to share that with your with your kids, your grandkid. Yeah,
you know. There's got to be someone though, who was

(01:25:06):
like on life support in a Red Sox hat, and
he died like right before Big Poppy hit this home
run anything. Yeah, definitely that's got a sting. It does.
But then you know they probably afterwards they they cremated
him and then and then they sprinkled them over to
Fenway and and he grows as the grass. That's beautiful,
you know. So that person who died and didn't get

(01:25:29):
to see it is Fenway Park. Now, that's like that's
gonna be like some sad novel. He grows with the Grass,
a Boston tale, my dad who passed away just before
David Ortiz hit the bomb. What do we forget? Jack? Oh?
Not much? Pretty clean episode. Quick pronunciation check Bill Miller's
Bill Miller. Kevin, he said, Kevin Miller, Yeah, Miller, Mila, Yeah,

(01:25:54):
you know, it's it's uh, it's It's something I've been
dealing with since third grade. It's all right, A little
like remember Letterman at the Oscars Oprah I remember that
kind of like that. What do you do? I remember
he's doing like the oprah Uma Thurman thing. Mallar millh
never mind, I don't remember. I don't remember, but Jack,
I take your word for it, all right. We also

(01:26:15):
talked Curse of the Bambino, or as some call it,
the Curse of the Great Bambino. Great Bambino. Nineteen eighteen,
we said, nineteen nineteen A couple of times night. Oh
my bad. That was me nineteen eighteen, six years after
the Titanic. I don't know why, but I'm obsessed with Titanic.
I traded Ruth. Yeah, okay, but the course is at eighteen. Yeah,
so adds up. You know you're right, You're spot on

(01:26:35):
with the Titanic. I love, I love it was it
April twelve, April fifteenth, I believe because that was my parents.
That's my parents' wedding marriage thing. Anniversary, Yeah, the anniversary.
We can call this game the A Night to Remember
game and under the Titanic. I mean, I don't know.
It also reminds Jules is fit. Reminds me of having

(01:26:57):
to get the Great Bambinos baseball back from this Leary,
the that you guys lost in Sandlot Leary. Oh that
remember he was a dad with the great man being
knows baseball. How did I mean, how did Dennis Leary
pull off playing an asshole? That must have been really hard,
uh performance for him? He's a Boston guy. Oh yeah,
he is a Boston guy. He was with the Fire
Shows You Rescue Me Already was in that Already Lane.

(01:27:18):
Yeah yeah, I never saw the show. I love Already
Lane too. So the naming of the game, the breaking
of the curse. The curse is over, sorry, Sam, the
Dave Roberts game. That's no no, uh, don't let us
win tonight or we're not even gonna say the four
days in October because there's a there's a thirty for thirty.

(01:27:40):
This is game's name. It's it's the breaking of the
curse because it is in action. It is the breaking
of the curse. It's the curse isn't over yet. The
curse is over when you beat the cardinals, but it
is the process of breaking the curse. Definitely. I'm going
with breaking of the curse as well. It's it's the
breaking of the curse. Let's score it. Stakes are high.
It's one hundred years in the May making almost ninety steaks.

(01:28:02):
Are crazy with the individual game. I mean, this is
winner go home, this is this is do or die.
This is cornered animal mentality. What are we going? Eight
eight eight eight eight eight nine nine to one? All right, fun,
we'll go nine star power. I don't know if the
stakes are as that high though, because they haven't won

(01:28:24):
in that Yeah. Fuck, you're right, it's an one all right.
Star power is high, dude. I mean this is a
lot of bit I mean the amount of all stars
we listed Hall of Famers. I mean there's like eight
Hall of Famers on both teams. I'm sure in the
stands you probably had Matt damon the ben word, are
the B word? That's Jennifer? Yeah? Are they there? You think?

(01:28:47):
Let me look? But now we should have we should
have looked into that. But I mean, I think star
power has got to be a nine nine. This is
a high it's a high guy gameplay. It was a
pretty good game. Unfortunately went to extra innings. There's a
walk off, there's a fucking you know, a hit to
get it into overtime or extra innings? Are we going

(01:29:09):
like an a niner? God damn, this is gonna be
one of our highest Oh the name is high to
I hate I hate that this might Dude, is this
gonna fucking overtake? Shit? The name is high, the name
is like it's probably one of the biggest most are
we going nine again on the name god? Nine one?

(01:29:30):
I'm angry? How well this is scoring? Nine oh two
five two. That's brutal? I know too. Is that a
number one? It is number two behind what eighteen and one? Yeah, yees,

(01:29:53):
can't win them all. We really got to reevaluate these scores. No,
we don't. I think it. I think it works properly.
I think the system works. I mean, I think those
two are prove I mean those are those are those
are two big games, and I mean, yeah they are.
We're both Boston, New York, so it's appropriate that they're
one and two. Hey, super Bowl, you gotta go super

(01:30:14):
Bowl higher than a game four. Yeah, have to. It's
one game, one game, bigger city, larger population. What about
eighteen and oh and that was when nineteen and oh
we stopped history? We per I agree with Sam Jacker Kyler.
I agree with Sam, and unfortunately I'm on the short
end of this stick. That's damn right. You are follow

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