Monday Night Marino with Bill Burr | Week 13, 1985: Bears vs. Dolphins - Games with Names

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At the end of this podcast, I'm gonna give you
the hug your dad never gave you.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I see him looking at me right now and really
thinking about like, Yeah, this kid's he needs a hug.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh, maybe I'm just projecting. Maybe I'm hoping that I
could get a hug from the hands that caught that
ball right off the turf. Maybe you could hold me gently,
rock me before I go to my next dancing monkey
gig that I have to do.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
You do do a lot of these dancing monkey gigs I.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Do, and this is probably the bottom of the list.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Welcome to a very special episode of Games with Names
presented by cores Light. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,
and we are on a mission to find the greatest
game of all time. And on today's episode, we are
covering Bears versus Dolphins, Week thirteen, nineteen eighty five, Monday

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night football game with legendary comedian die sports fan and
Boston icon Bill Burr, and we get into talking his
thoughts on the current National Football League.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
The NFL is in a bad place. The only storyline
they have right now is Canny three.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Peat, his Boston sports mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
And I can only pick one white wide receiver, so
I'll go with Wes Welker.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Where Dan Marino ranks in all time.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Nobody could beat the Bears. And this guy went in.
He had no weapons, no defense.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
And then we get in to the chill zone presented
by COR's Light. We're hitting the old chill line. To
answer your questions about this week's game, you gotta stick
around to the very end. Let's go. Games with Names
of production of iHeartRadio, December second, nineteen eighty five. The

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Orange Bowl, Miami, Florida.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Ten year old Bill Burr with an orange afro, no girlfriend,
flunking math. He sits down in front of a square TV.
Perfection is in the sight for the Monsters of the
Midway on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
But Don Shula and Dan Marino have other plans. This
is the Bears versus Dolphins, Week thirteen, nineteen eighty five.
Welcome to Games with Names. Today, we have a very

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special guest to talk about a very random game. I'm
gonna tell you We're gonna talk about the nineteen eighty
five Week thirteen Bears versus Dolphins Monday night football game
with Bill Burr and Bill I have one question to
ask you in one sentence, Okay, why did you pick

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this game?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Because after Dan Marino played or during his career, he
got all of this crap that he couldn't win the
big one, and he had no weapons, he had no defense.
He had an older coach who was he who had
a chain of steakhouses shoeless right, the game had passed
him by. It wasn't like, you know, he kept you know,
adding to his game. They caught up to him. The

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guy had no running back, he had nothing, He had
no help. Okay, and everybody who's saying, oh, you know,
like making it sound like this guy wasn't good. He's
one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time who had
no help. And in nineteen eighty five nobody could beat
the Bears, and this guy went in with like a
regular defense, not only beat him, smoked him thirty eight

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to twenty four.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
They were beaten like the Cowboys who were just perennial.
You know Tom Landry, you know, late in his career,
they beat him like forty four to nothing. I remember
that on the cover of Sports Illustrated and what is it? Defense,
dude was like mythical by the fourth week of the season,
and no one was going to stop these guys and

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they were gonna win the Super Bowl, which god knows
they did against my Patriots. We were up three to
nothing though Franklin yep, and he went in and just
straight up beat him. And I just always feel like
one of the biggest curses in sports there it is.
I still remember that cover, and that was mind blowing.
That was mind blowing that the Dallas Cowboys could get

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beat that bad at home. They absolutely destroyed them. But like,
one of the biggest curses in the NFL is to
be a highly sought after draft pick, right because you
usually end up on a on a bad team. But
then he lucked out going so late in the draft

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for reasons we're not going to discuss. But if you
ever go to Pittsburgh, you can figure it out pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I don't know Pittsburgh like that, but I could put
one in one together.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, he got a around town.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now, Bill, is this the greatest game of all time?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
No? Well, I figure everybody's gonna pick like, you know,
you guys versus the uh, the Falcons or something like that,
But like, this is one of the most overlooked games
of all time and all of these like you know,
fat sports writers who were never picked in gym class.
They they can't wait for the dip in somebody's career

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and their thing with him, well we can't win the
big one and blah blah blah, and they ignore this game.
They ignore the people around. Remember, like his running backs
were like Delvin Williams during his career, Tony Nathan Kareem
Abdul Jabbar the football player, swear to God, and he
had Duper and Clayton who were fantastic, fantastic, I don't know,

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but like the Dolphins had like the last two white
cornerbacks in the league. They had, like they had like
who were the the Greg and Lyle and Kyle Blackwood
or something like that, the exciting whites. Yes, there you go. Yeah,
one was just okay, one was a strong safety. I
don't know what the other guy was. Okay, you got
all the names here, uh, Fulton Walker, you remember the

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first guy to take a kickoff back in a Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Don't remember that?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
But look look at look at these names. Does any
of these names anybody here jump out at you like,
oh my god, damn Marino, damn Okay, Damn Marino, Don'tula, Don'tula.
Look look at that Look at that team. You're telling
me this team beats the eighty five Bears.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
They do? And why because the guys were at home
with the champagne glasses trying to defeat the undefeated, the
old Miami Dolphin. Guys.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know how now you played this game professionally, right
I did? I tried, and so you just went with
that ESPN take.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I tried, you know, honestly, you know it was eighty
five degrees of Miami.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Chicago's a cold weather team. I'm telling you. I gotta
tell you I got That's hard.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's fucking hard. What is hard? Do you see our
record in fucking Miami in December? It's like ohen like
a million because when you go because it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Was too hot out, well because you guys, because you
guys went to South Beach the night before.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You think we went to South Beach before, you think
hot ass your team?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Every year I watch it with the Bruins and the Celtics,
they come here, they go down to Anaheim. Oh, they
play the Clippers and the Lakers. They always lose one.
There's always one night is always the party night, and
then we're going to try against the Lakers. That's basically
what it is. If you saw the Celtics with the
Big three against the no name Clippers, it was fifty
to fifty that they were going to lose that game badly.

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I used to go to it every year because I
can't stand Lakers fans, because I don't mind the upper
deck ones, but the ones down low in the Staples Center,
it's just it's just mouth breathers, mouth breathing morons, just
a bunch of old guys with like eighteen year old chicks.
It's horrible. And then you go to Miami and it's
the same thing. It's a bunch of sixty year old
guys dressed all in white linen. Hannibal Lecter when he's

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gonna eat that guy at the end of the movie
and the and they hang it out with like these
twenty one year olds. And then you guys get down
there and you're like, Wow, what is this some wide
eyed kid from Kansas wherever the fuck you're from. You
can't handle it. You can't handle it, and you go
down and what do you do? You lose money for
guys like me and I came here today for an apology.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm sorry, Bill, I'm fucking well. Can we just can
we discuss what's the greatest game of all time? To you? Then,
what is your game?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I think the great the greatest game of all time.
This isn't like stand up where he just go Richard
Pryor and you're done. No, the greatest game of all time?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm an underdog guy, so I always like underrated stuff.
Like one of the greatest fights I ever saw was
Michael Doakes versus Evander Holyfield, and they never bring it up.
I don't know why. It's an incredible fight this game
they never bring up. Or maybe I'm a contrarian. Maybe
that's why the way I keep people away, you know,
and I don't let them in, you know, like you
know how much I'm enjoying whatever the fuck this is

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between us. It's fantastic. If I had to sit even
closer to you and your Suzanne Summers rebox, I would
really be uncomfortable. Susanne Summers, those are men's sneakers.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
These are men.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Those are men's sneakers. These are that's what you guys
are doing. That is the future of this country that
a man can walk around. These are borderline slippers. I
know they have a stripe on the side of them.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
But these these are the same. These are the same
shoes from like nineteen seventy you were.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Have you ever seen the ladies with leg warmers that
warre them when I was growing up. No, it looks
like you should be doing this.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
This is a nurse Okay, everybody, now, is this a
nurse shoe to you?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's a nurse shoe? Are you calling?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
No, it's it's feminine. Its transit you. You're very progressive.
You're wearing bracelets. I like this whole after football you
you know this is you have to sit on your
whole career and at this Huh my daughter made that?
Was that supposed to make me ease up on you?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
No? That's just all right, literal the truth. You know.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
What's a great thing about I have a seven year
old daughter. I went to I don't have a desk
or anything because I'm an adult. So I was trying
to write out something. So I sat down at her desk.
She was this school the great thing, But I'm a
seven year old. There was cookie crumbs on top of
the desk. It just fucking made me laugh. Like this,
kids are so funny. They think that they're sneaking and

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they always like the level of evidence that they leave
kids and people who whack CEOs, it's just the level
of like evidence that they leave around. I love that
everybody thought that that was a professional hit and he's
sitting there talking to some chicken, like Starbucks, DNA, backpack,
cell phone, still carrying the gun.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
He was professional enough to do the shelling though, the
shell thing.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know what I loved about him. I loved his belief,
you know that, like he had a whole list and
it's like, all right, that's the first guy. Like he
was just gonna go around like it was some Tom
Cruise movie and like somehow he was like the Bourne identity.
He's gonna be like know Tokyo, drifting around city. You're
like killing s CEOs. And they weren't going to catch
him immediately. I mean, come on, like if he just

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if he just shot some shithead in the back, oh,
I got what's going on in New York and they
would eventually got to it. But like the level that
they went after that guy, the level you can't have
that money can't have money unless they make the call.
You can't have some rando coming around to side. And
he's not at the table. No, he's not with the illuminati.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
He could be.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Can I ask you a question? When you bring chicks
over to you take out the guitar? No, I thought
that was yours. I really just just picture the pianis
stream weaver.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It just.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Serenade. It's after football.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I need a new angle.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I can't hit him with the stats anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
No stats. So Bill, what what's what's day life nowadays
for you? What are you doing these days?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I just scratched the rim of my car because I
can't park new cars anymore. You sit so low in them.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
You don't have a car.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
What kind of car do I have? I have a
Jaguar because everybody has a BMW or Mercedes, and I
have kids and I needed a back seat. But now
I found out that the Jaguar has like the same
engine as like the land Rover range Rover.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah. They're English cars, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
They're like notorious like Lemon Lawn. Is this on the
internet or is this on real TV? Then I have
to lie and be like range Rovers are a fantastic infessment. No,
my mechanic already told me, he goes, no matter what
you do with this car, it's it's junk by the
time it's one hundred thousand miles and it already like overheated.
It's annoying, you know what I mean. So I don't
know what I'm gonna do with it.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
My dad's a mechanic, and the first thing he ever
told me is never buy an English car.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, what is there? You know?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
They just don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
They're like the worst people on the planet because you
take the Germans, like the English, not good with people,
not good with people with machines, great with machines. England
just oh for two, oh for two, no rush, no floss,
and they got meat pies or something over there.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
What is their food? Chips? And are the fish and chips?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Other people?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
They just kind of go around the world.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I do love when I go over and they go, well,
what's wrong with America? It's like, well, you started it,
the fuck you. This was your baby, you know what
I mean, And you taught us how to treat people.
That's what's going on with it.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
We don't put it.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I don't put it all on them.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
A lot of it. I put a lot on the
French too.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's a beautiful room.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's cedar.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
This is the age we're at right now. This is
I just looked at your Wallas as a beautiful room.
You got a little more excited. You go, this is cedar.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I know.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Oh is that so you can have like a like
a wolf sweater in here and like.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's actually bugs it is. Yeah, cedar wood is like
really good with bugs. I think it doesn't allow bugs
to live in it.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I think it's more technical than that. But okay, something
like there's something about the wood. This is great. Don't
you love the two dumb guys don't know what they're
talking about. This is great. This is what people want
to listen. Well, let's go with it. Yeah, some they
don't like the smell of it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think there's something to do with the radiant. I
don't actually don't know, but I just wanted to throw
that word out there.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I like radiant, and I totally bought it when you
said it. Yeah, I was like, he knows what this means.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I have no clue. I'm a dumb football player, Bill
Now I'm.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
A stupid comic I do shit jokes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, but I don't think honestly, for me, I think
comics are like some of the smartest people I've met.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's because you haven't hung out with us and you're
romanticizing the art. No, tell us we're sad clowns. No,
we're so happy when they're on stage and then we
just walk away.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
You know. No, there's definitely always something that.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Has I'm glad I was able to make your day
more enjoyable. There's all the young comedians out there. That's
one of the biggest lies ever that if you do
you have enough fucking cameras. Jesus fucking Christ got you
on me, like the National News. Okay, this will be
if don't buy into that that bullshit that that if
you're but you're not going to be funny. If you

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get married and I find love, you're not going to
be funny. It doesn't. It's it's an amazing thing and
it gives you a whole new way of viewing the world.
And if you're funny, you're funny. That's that's what it is. Right,
Like if you somehow serenade the right woman right with
that guitar and you get married Does that mean you
can't catch a football anymore? Does that mean you don't
have the desire?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I tell you right now, I literally didn't get in
relationships during my career because I felt guys got softer
when they had marriage. I saw it firsthand. You did.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
They're saying that as far as your research goes.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
As far as my research goes. I felt that because
I felt that, like, I saw a couple guys that
were you know, I won't put no names out there,
but they got married, and it just felt like the
main reason wasn't the main reason anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I tried to say something nice and then you just
come at me with facts. I can't argue that, I know,
because then they'd be like, you got concussed again, Julian,
And you're like, it's just a headache, and they're going, no.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
My hip, that's my hip, it's my cale.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
If Tommy says I can go, that means I can go.
Why are you gonna listen to me? And then Bill
calls you, Yeah, the game started like a like a
week ago. Where the fuck are you? Did you see
that recent one? Let Lawrence Taylor drove by Giants Stadium?
You saw the lights on him, and he's like, oh fuck,
I have a game. Yeah, and showed up in the
first quarter.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
He showed up late. They benched him for a series
and then he went out and I think he had
like seven sacks.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
All right, I'm gonna tell a story. Okay, I don't
feel like I'm talking out out of school here, because
this is this is uh, this is a funny story.
So I'm doing inside the NFL. Phil Simms is on
the show and Lawrence Taylor is coming in. So it's Phil,
Chris Collinsworth, Laurence, Lawrence Taylor, and me. Right, I mean

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one of those classic like what in the hell am
I doing here?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Right?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
So Lauren hasn't showed up yet, so Phil tells me
a story. I can't believe Lawrence Taylor is going to
be here. I mean that guy was just like he
literally changed the game, and I was just going on
and on about him. He goes, you know what's funny
about that guy? He goes, he didn't even know the
names of the teams in the leagues. I go, get
the fuck out of here. He goes, Yeah, he goes.
One time, he goes, we were we won some game.

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They were on the road, and they're on the team plane.
They're all hyped and Lawrence is psyched and Phil goes, yeah, hey, man,
you know, if the Redskins lose, then we're going to
be in first place in our division. And Lawrence goes,
uh oh yeah, he goes he goes, who's in our division?
And Phil goes, you don't know who's in our division?
And he goes, man, I don't give a shit, right,
And I'm thinking, like, that is the genius that he

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held him. Let's say, I don't need extra information in
my head. You have a different uniform than me, I'm
going to ruin your day. So I thought it was
a hilarious story. But as always, you know, you think
maybe he put a little mustard on it or whatever.
Ten minutes later, Lawrence Taylor comes walking in. Him and
Phil both just start laughing, which was great. They just
saw each other. They start laughing. They hugged and everything.

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You just know all the shit that they did back then.
Who knows, right, So Laurence sits down and he starts
telling stories. Right, They just start telling things, and in
the middle of one story goes me, he goes, we
were down in uh down in New Orleans, then we
would play in the UH and he goes Phil what's
the name of that team in New Orleans and he
goes to the Saints. He goes, You're play in the Saints.
It was unbelievable. And then fat sports writers would would

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would say that, you know, they would say that he
wasn't smart, he was blah blah. It's like that's like
some Einstein shit. I'm wearing the same shit every day,
so my brain doesn't I only need to worry about Like,
you know, you hear all those stories how he would
sleep through meetings and then get up and diagram the
whole play or they would ask him if it was okay.
The guy is like a fucking genius. Genius. But the

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fact that he didn't even know, like the fact that
he's almost like a housewife in the level that he
doesn't know the names of the teams. Yet he's the
most alpha dominating player that I ever saw. But you
know why he seems like he fell out of the
sky is because his favorite player was Hollywood Henderson. Yeah,
and he was sort of he was like Hollywood Henderson

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was the gap as far as the linebacking position between
like you know, Dick Buckis in that era and him
he came and it looked like he was an alien.
It was because unfortunately, Hollywood Henderson had like substance abuse
problems and it affected his career. But one of the
greatest play another underrated play nineteen seventy six. The Steelers

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are playing the Cowboys and the Steelers kick off. Guess
who receives it. Hollywood Henderson. They had a linebacker receiving
their kick in nineteen seventy six, like that just didn't happen,
and he took it all the way down the field
to like they're forty five and Roy Jirella, their kicker,
just sort of dove like that and his linebacker knee

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hit his ribs, broke them, yeah, and fucked him up
for the game. And it's a really hard game to
watch him. You're a Cowboys fan, because they were running reverses,
I think that's what it was. It was a reverse
on the on the kickoff, and they were doing all
of this shit and then they got up and then
they just sat on the ball and the Steelers kept
playing and then they came back and beat them.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Man, how does it feel to be that old to
remember a nineteen seventy six game that great.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I watched it on YouTube. The first one I watched
was seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
What's the first game you remember watching?

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You know some OJ Simpson was playing in like the
early seventies, and my yeah, my dad's screaming at the
TV or something. My grandfather going, uh, you know, he's
the old days. He's like packing a pipe to smoke
it inside.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
The Sherlock Holmes fucking.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
No old men smoked pipe. And I gotta be honest
with you to this, Both my grandfathers smoked pipes, and
to this day if I smell pipe smoke, it puts
me in like the greatest mood because both my grand
grandfathers with these amazing like guys guys. Yeah, so that
was probably the first one. But I've also like gone
back in, like I've watched all of this history of

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the NFL, and I'll tell you a great guy and
he just passed away unfortunately, and in the NFL never
gave him his due. Was this guy Marlin Briscoe. Brisco
he played for the Broncos, black quarterback. They drafted him.
He was like second or third string or something like that,
and both white quarterbacks go down this is like the
late sixties and he goes in and you immediately see

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the modern modern day NFL. It wasn't just standing there
throwing like that. He was all over the field more
Randall Cunningham, I would say, than Michael Vick. And he
won like six of the last seven games something crazy.
And then you know they didn't make the playoffs because
they were having a bad season before he got in there.
And then the next season the team just drafted another

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high rank white guy and they shipped him off the
Buffalo and he finished his career as a wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Wow. Yeah, sounds like the sixties.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well this is what sixties sounded like right through the nineties,
I feel.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, yeah, I guess so that's.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What like, this is like all of this shit that
I can was so fucked up as I can remember
all of that stuff, and I think because I looked
at the football cards and I remember all the names.
And then I also went back and I was fascinated,
like what happened right before I started watching football and
then today's game, Like if you know you you age

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out as a player, I also feel you can age
out as a as a fan, and like how certain
teams like they sort of aged out when during like
free agency because their whole thing was the draft and
their scouts, and then when the game became more free agency,
they didn't adjust. I would say as a fan that

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the fan version of that is I didn't get involved
in fantasy football. Yeah, so now I don't know the
player's name, I don't know what's going on. And then
like I also feel like they kind of sold their
souls all professional sports for offense because they had reached
maximum density with sports fans, and then offense gets the
casual fans. Yeah, and I think that they are envious

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of the UFC to see them start so much later
than them but then go global. But there's something about soccer,
football whatever, and and fighting it just transcends all borders
and all that, which I find like really fascinating. Not fighting,

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because fighting, you know, it's like I remember Joe Rogan
telling this story saying, like, you know, if you're driving
on the street and there's two people playing you know,
catch or whatever, playing base, you know you're not going
to really watch because but if you drive down the
street and you see a fight, like you you got
to watch it. And it was sort of like this
really yeah easy way of explaining how their thing got

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as big as it dig and I don't know what
it is about soccer, but every but he seems it
seems to enjoy it because all you need is a ball,
say that about whop, I guess you need you need
a basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Basketball is also very global. Yeah, okay, you know what
I mean. Yeah, so your.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Point about like how football is kind of change and
involved and sold it sold for offense is a conversation
we have behind the scenes on this show a lot
because we go watch a five game, we watch a
game from the early two thousands, and the game is
so different.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh yeah, you don't even want to hear my conspiracy theory.
Like my conspiracy theory right now is is the NFL
is in a bad place because they only have one
great quarterback. True as far as like there's always been
braiding Brady Manning, you know, uh what about Lway.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Marino quarterback, So Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Mahomes is the guy that sells the tickets. I'm not
saying that's not like great talent at that position, but
nobody has put up sort of like he doesn't have
his you know, hatfield and McCoy guy. So it's sort
of their own. The only storyline they have right now
is Canny three p. So that's why, like the ridiculous
that guy took his helmet off from the fucking end zone,

(25:05):
the rep says, put it back on. I mean, it's
just like he's like, you realize this is televised, right, Like,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
So you know that's a penalty, supposed to be a penalty.
Take your helmet off. It's fifteen. Yeah, now we're it's
it's very fascinating to me that you know your sports shit,
like you know this shit. I know eras where did
I know an era? Where does this sports fandom come from?

(25:34):
Like is your grandpa smoking the pipe watching the Patriots
or where did this all come from?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Well, my grandfather was you know, he was he was
super old. He was born like eighteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Jesus fucking yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
He had like my dad was a product of a
second marriage, so like he had kids. What was really
late in life, which is like he was like almost forty,
you know, so he was like in the we like horses,
old dad, horses, Yeah, horses, boxing in baseball. So if
you look at the turn of the last century, horse

(26:08):
racing and boxing with the two biggest sports, and then
baseball came on. So he was living through that and like,
you know, as far as like, you know, having a
cool car back then was like being able to handle
a horse. Having I'm probably a stable full of horses.
I don't know, that was like some man shit. So
he was into that. And then he saw, you know,

(26:28):
Babe Ruth and all of that, that whole baseball thing
come on and and like all of a sudden being
able to listen to it on the radio and all
of that. So he was he was kind of into
the radio. And you know, he was like a classic
older guy. Both of them. They were quiet, you know
what I mean, and and uh just you know, smoke.

(26:49):
The pipe would have, you know, a little two fingers
whatever whatever their their drink. Everybody had like their drink.
And you smoked and you look like you were fifty
when you were thirty. Was like that's just the way
it was back then. But I remember I related. I
related to them, and I didn't know why. But now

(27:10):
that I am an old man, you're not that old,
but I'm fifty six, dude, I'm fucking old. Right, you
look good.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was saying the other day, fifty six times too
is dead?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
All right? So like it is, it is.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
You can go to whatever personal trainer and they do
your blood be like you're fifty six, but your you know,
your fucking ankle is thirty eight. With that dumb shit
that they say to get you to keep coming back,
it's like, no, it's fifty. Everything on me is fifty
six years old. I might look better than the average
fifty six year old, but you know my heart has
been beaten for you know, over a half a century.
So that that is what it is.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So it must be the avocados. Bill came here immediately
had to scarf down an avocado because he's on that
Hollywood diet. Now I am out of Boston guy, Now,
Boston guy, that's that's the least Boston thing you've ever
done in front of me.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's the first fucking thing I've ever done in front
of you. I mean I've make you once at the
comedy store and then there a couple other times. But yeah,
I remember, all right, what's the most Boston thing I
ever did? Make fun of?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Your fucking SnO, that that was that's a Boston thing,
even though they look like they're from fucking Southis.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
But you know what I'm gonna be. You can pull
them off and that might be a compliment, that might
be an insult and dog gone it. You should make
the you should wear the sneakers that make you feel
the prettiest.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Are they that ugly?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, they're just really feminine because you're No, I just
think No, I don't know what it is. There's just
something about the soul. It's like that is not an
active person.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's gum.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
That is like that is the soul of so that
lets somebody else drive culy. Well you're doing all right?
I don't know, Like that's what those sneakers say to me.
Do you want to go out to dinner? Yeah? And
I don't know what I want. That's the whole other

(29:00):
side of you. I don't want to see. I want
to keep the myth.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
What's the myth?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I don't know. You spoke in proper English earlier and
it really made me happy.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Why I can't speak.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It said, I got you got dip in your That's
just what I need. I need as someone who failed
horrifically in athletics, I need to see the.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Flaws you're seeing nobody. You're fucking out.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm not. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You look like you
can still play.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
So Grandpa, Pops, old ass Dad, old guy, eighteen hundred Grandpa,
that's fucking.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Eighteen ninety two.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, that is Nars so over sports fandom.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He almost owned a slave. I mean, this guy was
way back.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
He probably did. And I don't know if we'll probably
have to cut that out.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Dude, Why why is us history? Why do we have
to act like?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Always fascinated me. I never got this sketch on Chappelle's show,
but I wrote this sketch for day. It's one of
my favorite people in this business. There was this weird thing,
you know, because I'm always watching this old footage on sports.
They would tell the history of baseball separately. They would
talk about in the nineteen fifties, oh boy, oh boy,
it was the golden age of baseball, and you know,

(30:15):
you know Willie Mickey and the Duke and I used
to go to center field and whoopie doopy there was
there was Duke Schneider right or whatever, and then they
had the other side, Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier,
and it was super ugly and people throwing black cats
on the field and saying all of this shit. But
they told those two stories separately, you know what I mean,
for some weird reasons. So I wrote this sketch where

(30:36):
Dave was watching like one of those Billy Crystal going
to a Yankee game things and just fantasize, oh boy,
oh boy, I wish I'd played during the Golden Age
of baseball. And then he went back, and of course,
like it was like, and here we are, nineteen fifty four,
the Golden Age love. And then you know, he come
up to the place God Themailia Blacks, and then and
there's the mick oh, Mickey Mannle and this all this,

(30:57):
the duality of it struck me as funny got it on.
Though he would have killed that, he killed everything.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Now, Billy Crystal, big Yankees guy you ever met?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I love Billy Crystal. And one of the movie and
I also underrated movie was Mister Saturday Night.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I love that movie. And that movie very subtly is
sort of a blueprint for stand a stand up comedy career.
Of some of the pitfalls that you can fall and
I haven't I haven't seen it in a while, but
it's just like kind of getting carried away with your ego, uh,
dying on a hill like that thing when he when

(31:38):
he when he he finally gets his show, and in
his head he's like, don't say it, don't say it.
It was what's with your fucking hair? Whatever he said,
and then he gets fired the self sabotage the I
haven't seen it a while, but like, you know, having
you got the one, the girl, and then you're looking
at other women, you've just fucked the whole thing up.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
It was really a.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I love that movie. I love that movie. So and
then also, you know, I used to watch him with
Robin and whoopee, the comic relief. I saw him all
the way back on soap which you don't even remember,
which was the late seventies, so I basically was and
then watched him hosting the Oscars and yeah, and it
was a cool thing as a wanna be comedian and

(32:21):
then becoming a comedian because they never gave comedies oscars.
There was sort of like this subtle thing like, Okay,
so you actors are so goddamn great, how come you
can't host you show you need you need a comedian,
and how many times he did it, the great job
that he did with it, so I was I was
a huge fan. And then he did a show with

(32:44):
Josh Gadd that only went a season and it's just
still like a phantom limb. I wanted to see how
it played out. And it was like they were playing
he was playing this older entertainer and he was this
younger entertainer for whatever reasons, their careers where they were at,
they needed each other there and I mean it maybe
it was too inside baseball, but it was absolutely brilliant

(33:06):
and they were so great and and it was, uh,
there's a there's a few of those TV series that
I watched. It was one on Showtime, The Brotherhood, and
that I think it was sort of loosely based on
The Bulgers, and that one went away.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
No, you look at Billy Crystal and.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Sorry I went off on a tangent. You really needed
to regroup.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
There, No I did. I did, but I was thinking,
you're lady completely didn't. I completely didn't understand anything you
just said. But yes, you did not really stop playing dumb. No,
You're not a dumb guy.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I'm pretty dumb listen, being able to figure out where
to sit down on a zone with twenty two people
fucking running around.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's different.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
That's what happened to you as a child, that you
can't take a compliment, that you have to hide behind
this pillow.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
My dad never gave me one.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Oh oh you had one of those?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh definitely did.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
You have to walk behind the station wagon with your
cleats over your shoulder?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Suburban? But yeah, we had the old ninety one bourbon
everyone knew. Yeah it catches. Yeah, you take you something.
Why did you have not literally used to get grounded
if you get out of my fucking car, you piece
of shit dude? It was I had a crazy life
like that where I would get grounded if I didn't
go for it for four in baseball, basketball turnovers, Dad

(34:25):
make me. My dad heard a story that remember white
chocolate Jason Williams, His dad tied his right hand to
his behind his back and made him dribble with his
left up and down the street. My dad used to
make me do that, like my dad was psycho.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You know. It's funny when I think about where were
the moms during those eras.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Someone was smoking a cigarettes watching just we're kind of
trailer trash.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Mine was inside.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I know you're from Boston and I'm from California, even
though you said I was from Kansas, but.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
You just sound like you're from Kansas and you're doing dip.
You picked up a lot of bad habits, the intellect,
the dip. Definitely, it's up Kansas. I'll be there in
a week now, kidding. Actually, bucket list, I want to
go to Jayhawks basketball game. I somehow became a fan
of this. Yeah, a long time ago at the was
at the fieldhouse or whatever field house?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Why do you love sports? I still don't understand it.
You know so much about this shit?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, what else am I going to do? Watch CNN
and Fox News and watch those guys lie and then
go do blow and fuck the same hookers after their
show's done. Why would I sit there and watch that?
So then I try to watch sports, and I'm trying
to get away from all of this shit that I'm seeing.
And now what do they have a baseball stand up
for cancer? And everybody's crying about somebody who died from cancer.

(35:45):
No one's saying, well, they turned our food supply into poison.
They don't bring that part up. You just hold a
sign that says Larry and you start crying. And I'm
trying to watch a fucking baseball game. If you're not
gonna do anything about the food supply, I don't want
to see the people that you killed during game.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
So what's your Boston hierarchy of sports?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Boston hierarchy? Well, well pick, I'll give you my my
top five top five and okay, you gotta go, Bill Russell.
As far as the Celtics hierarchy, Bill Russell, that's the foundation. Listen,
are you gonna let me answer it? You're just gonna

(36:32):
do it.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I'm just gonna Bobby Larry Bird.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You probably lived in Southee and you stole cars, and
you were good at math, and you said, how do
you like them apples? Huh? Listen, I already I already
was judging you because you were from Kansas, but the
fact that you're from California. You know what's funny about
Republicans is they love TV people. They were fucking because

(36:56):
I was just thinking, like the other day, it's like
they keep electing the host of a reality show TV star, right.
They like the host of the Apprentice, they like Schwarzeneger movies,
Reagan No, and then watching like Trump, I don't know
what he's doing. He's like talking about national security with
doctor Phil. Have you seen his ratings now? It's like

(37:19):
it's like Trump, this is a little more fucking important.
And then he replaced a warmonger with dementia. The joke
I've been doing my actors the last three president's elections.
We're picking presidents the way the Browns pick quarterbacks. We got.
We're in this vortex we got, we gotta get out
of it. And then fortunately somebody comes along and whacks

(37:39):
the CEO and gives us a chance to breathe a little.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
So who's the Baker?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Like, what are we doing? Huh?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Who's the Baker Mayfield of presidents? In that?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I love Baker Maks.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I do too, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You know what I love that. I love that Colin
Cowhard has to stay up at night knowing he was
wrong and can't get himself to admit it, and his
desk is just going to keep getting bigger. I still
have to go to a physical therapist. Looking up at
him during those interviews I did on his show, Oh
my god, look at that. Would you look at that,
Ty debtmur, I can't.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Even Charlie Fry isn't win from the Brady draft, Yes, Spurgeon.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Brady Quinn Jake, well not the loan from uh the Panthers.
They got rid of him. He was a fucking baller.
He almost beat us. Uh, I was not afraid of
the Super Bowl even remore Colt McCoy, dude, they they should,
they should get all of these guys together and sit
around the biggest round table you could ever get, like
a forty seven person round table, and it's just called

(38:40):
I was drafted number one by the Browns, and you
and and you talk about all the success you had
at all levels leading up to that, and then he
went to the Browns and nobody blocked. And now for
the rest of your life, you go into a Dick
Sporting Good and some mantated fat fuck gets to say
you sucked, like that's that's what you're signing up for.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Baker Bak won a playoff game for them.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Okay, so what what? What is my fascination was? It
wasn't always we were in the hierarchy of Boston, but
oh okay, all right, Bill Russell Uh wait a second,
stop throwing fucking bird in there. Everybody's gonna say Bird.
There's other Matt Damon Ben a flat fucking mock Wahlberg.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I'm a Billburg guy.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Sorry, Joey mack Alright, Bird, will that get you to stop?
Will that get you to stop?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
All right? Russell, you notice my posture.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I'm just I'm gonna be like laying flat by the
end of this, crying about her childhood.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So Ernie came in here and talked for three hours,
and by the end he was like this sleeping all right.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Well, there's two different lists. There's the people that I
liked and then the best ever. Okay, some of them
are on the same list, so like the best ever.
You gotta go, Bird, I mean, uh Bill Russ Bird,
I'm going like Celtics right now. And that's it. I'm kidding.
I'm too old to remember anybody past the fucking nineties.

(40:12):
Then he got it, Bobby orr who even warning Gretzky's
I said, that's the greatest of all time. Cam Neely,
cam Neely, you want fifty goals? And I beat the
fuck out of your team? You know that guy? And
he owned the Canadians when we couldn't beat the Canadians
and we were all I'm like, oh, we'll go in
to the form, we're gonna lose. He would get a
hat trick on Patrick Waugh, who changed the game for move.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
On, Kenny Lely. Do you have a take on Olf Samuelson?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Do I have a take on him?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
My only take on that guy is that whenever I
hear Pittsburgh fans whining about what they did to Sidney
Crosby in his career, it's like, you have Alf Samuelson
in your ring of honor. So I mean, I don't
I mean, live by this, sword, die by this. They
also had Matt Cook. I mean, they just they like
guys like that unless they're coming at them. So, you know,

(40:58):
I don't know, you know, whatever Ulf did, he had,
he had like a long career, but I mean I
just don't I don't think like going at somebody's knees.
I don't think that, you know, Okay, So then what
did what did that do for hockey? That took Cam
Neely away? And then you're left with Alf Samuelson. So like,
I don't mind guys that played physical and that type

(41:19):
of thing. You know, the guys that were on the line,
like Claude Claudeleineux. All right, that guy did a lot
of dirty ship, but he could also he could play
the game. So it's you know, I don't know, you
know what, fuck you for bringing his name up all
the fucking championships and.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
It's fucking sky.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, but western Massachusetts, that's that's not even America. Forget
about Massachusetts. That's just like people who can't find the
Appalachian Trail. Look at his beard. Do you think he
has running water in his house?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I don't either. And then as far as Patriots, I
mean John Hannah, Andre Tippetti, you gotta go. Steve Grogan,
one of the greatest, toughest fucking guys.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Grogan, Dude.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Grogan played the last five years of his career wearing
a neck brace. He looked like he just got to
a car accident. And he played on AstroTurf. And he
would hold that fucking ball until the like the camera
would always go at the ball. He would just see
him fly out of frame as the ball went like
that way, and he would just get up. The guy
just would get up. Yeah, he was Oh my god,

(42:28):
that naked bootleg on Monday Night football.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Fifty yardists didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Fucking white guy giving us all hope we can run.
I could make it. Uh Stanley Morgan, there it is.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
He wore.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
First of all, he had the same genetics as Peyton Manning,
where they just had extra neck, you know what I mean,
like usually the helmet fits the thing. I don't know what,
I don't know what. You know, I don't think Peyton's
that brighter guy. So he's always cheating on people, you
know the papers. I think that that's what happened. I'm
just fucking with I love Peyton, but the fucking guy.

(43:02):
I did his show, and all he did was like
he was like, remember when ELI did this. It's like, yeah,
I do, I don't remember when you did it? Yeah,
he always does that. Oh my god. The cheating ass Colts,
the fucking cheating ass Colts. Brilliant dude.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You know what, I didn't realize how much I hated
the Colts until I started doing a podcast with Gronk
and seeing how much he hated the Colts.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Dude, you really hate the biggest whining bitches that ever.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Fucking It's AFC Championship Banner runner up that's what they have.
They have an AFC runner up.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
How about how about the fact their owners sat on
the competition committee and made the way we were covering
their receivers illegal, and then they stole our offense and
won a fucking Super Bowl and they didn't say anything,
which I don't give a fuck. It's a dirty game.
But don't go around weighing a football, I mean, what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Same amount of their footballs were underinflated, underinflated, and he
hired this guy who said he was a scientist who wasn't.
How about the fact that I still can't stand him
right now.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
How about the fact that the owner of a losing
team was allowed to conduct an independent investigation that was
upheld by the NFL. Roger Goodell that appetizer eating fucking
Fred Flintstone looking savage. Okay, I get it. You gotta
protect your connections. I'm not a fan. The first thing
Roger Goodell needs to do is buy a suit that
fucking fits all right. He always looks like he just

(44:30):
ate a bunch of potatoes. Skins that big duve Fred
Flintstone had he he should have been like, you're not
conducting an independent investigation. I do that, you're not gonna
be who the fuck are you? And he went like,
oh yeah, this looks pretty good. Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
What was that quick question? Why do all comedians drink
drink the liquid death?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well?

Speaker 1 (44:53):
I initially got into this ship because because it's rather
than being a plastic bottle and.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
This you're so green friendly.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You just you ask questions and then you fucking interrupt.
I never even got to my list.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, I just don't. I got random. I'm random eight
so ripped.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Okay, so he's wearing women's shoes and now he's explaining
away his behavior with diagnosis. Are you self diagnosed as
add or don't know? Can I tell you something you
don't You don't have a d d well childhood trauma. No,
Well that if you actually sat still and you figure
you sat and thought about what a dick your dad was,

(45:35):
that's why that's me. I like me. My my dad
was a fucking loom. I don't know what happened to
him with old pipe smoker. By the time I met him,
he was fucking ninety. I don't know what he did
when he's still when he's still his last couple of
years in the league when he was forty. I don't
know what he did to my dad, but you know
we all paid for it. So like, I literally cannot
fucking sit still in my own house. I have to

(45:56):
be doing I'm playing a guitar. I'm over here, I'm
fucking making an egg. I'm just like, I'm all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm right there with you. Yeah, but I was a
little bit or like third grade. The principal brought my
parents into the the office and said, yeah, we we
recommend your your son needs riddling. My dad almost fought him.
That's a good dad, because you ain't putting my kid
on medicine. Frank, oh, Frank, you.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Know, came up with riddling teachers who couldn't control the classroom,
so they just started drugging class clowns.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
And that's me.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
And that's the story that they don't want you to know.
So Russell Bird, you can fact check that on the internet,
where you can lie your ass off on your grove.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
John Hannah, John Hannah, Mike Haynes, No Brady, Mike Haynes Hanes.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Well, I'm still in pat Patriot years.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I mean, how many fucking people are on the hierarchy
usually I'm mount rost to you. Yet no, I didn't
want to be on there.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'm gonna to give you at the end of this podcast.
I'm gonna give you the hug your dad never gave you.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I see him looking at me right now and really
thinking about like, yeah, this kid's he needs a hug. No,
he needs a hug.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Or maybe I'm just projecting. Maybe I'm hoping that I
could get a hug from the hands that caught that
ball right off the turf. Maybe that could have Maybe
you could hold me gently rocked me before I go
to my next dancing monkey gig that I have to do.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You do do you do do a lot of these
dancing monkey gigs? Because I do?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And this is probably the bottom of.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
The list, clearly not because three weeks ago Bill Burr
actually showed up to the fucking house. I have him
on my goddamn.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I clicked on the wrong address and I fucking came
to the house and they were like, you're not here
for like another three weeks, and I was like, fuck,
I mean that is my day, every fucking day, Like
I just wake up and you know, I got to
start moving forward to get the demons behind me. It's
I call it the smoke. I gotta stay ahead of
the smoke. So I I I clicked on the wrong
day and I ended up out here how far away

(48:08):
was supposed to be on this side of the you know,
oh over there. You know, it was what it was.
And then I got there and it didn't matter, you
know what I mean. I was like all stressed out.
They're like, no, it's fine, it's fine. It's like so
one of these times just arbitrary, like you know, ten
o'clock whenever you want to get here, Like, I don't

(48:28):
like being late.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
You weren't he was, actually you were ten minutes early here.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah, well I had to eat my avocado.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Avocado. Okay, so we have we have the hierarchy of athletes.
What's the high?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I know, we never even got through it. Keep going,
all right? So then I get to you guy, all right,
Ben Coates, I love it. Type Russ Francis. I forgot
Russ Francis.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Fucking good.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Uh Steve Nelson, Uh, Bill and Kitis, Leon Gray, Raymond Claiborne,
Tim Fox, Ohio State, Oh my god, that guy used
to fucking hit people. Sam Cunningham, come on, Stanley Morgan,
I said him, said, all right, okay, now we're in
Drew Bledsoe, Ben Coates, Curtis Martin.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Bloodsoe, you loved blood. Everyone loved Bloodsoe.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Teddy dude, he made us legit. Uh Teddy Bruce Ki Uh,
Willie McGinnis, will Yeah, I mean all of the fucking guys.
All of the guys, all of the fucking guys.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
What about your sports, Tom Brady, how does your fandom
in sports go? Does it?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
And then I can only pick one white wide receiver,
so I'll go with Wes.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Welker standard standard.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I mean, yeah, Julian Edelman, you're on the list, buddy.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I didn't forget about you.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I don't care how much you ever fail me. I'll
never make you get out of the car.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Did have to walk home from a practice one because
of that?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
There you go, and you know it's funny. You know
what's funny about being brought up like that is then
your idea of what being good and normal is just
you know, a little east of how you grew up,
and you don't realize you're you're you know, until you
meet somebody, hopefully that grew up in a good family.
Like I remember one of my brothers, right was got

(50:23):
into it with a girlfriend and he was going off
on her and she goes, stop yelling at me, and
he goes, I'm not yelling.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
That's yelling.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
That's what he did, like and she had never heard that.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I hear that all the time that I yell. I
don't think I agree with that. I'm not yelling. I
just speak loud.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
My problem is is when someone is taking advantage of me.
I have an inability to express my feelings without using
the F word, Like God helped me. If when you die,
God's gonna judge you and he starts bringing up my stuff,
I mean I'm gonna be I mean, come here, you
gotta get me a fucking break. I was fucking. I
immediately would start talking like that. Back into a corner,

(51:00):
I go F word. Some people start swinging. I don't
I go. I go F word, F bombs, F bombs.
Like I sit there and like in my like when
I because I know I'm crazy, Like if I have
to have a confrontation with somebody, I am outside in
my backyard walking around whispering what I want to say,
and then I get all wound up, and then I'm
whispering for okay, it's just something I.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Want to talk to you about.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I'm not saying you're a bad guy, but you know,
And then like five minutes saying, I mean, you know, dude,
what the fuck you can't fucking say that you didn't
fucking know that you were fucking dog, I can back down, okay,
And I just like, I just and I'll do that
for like forty minutes, and and I don't I don't
how many.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
People are in your head?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Is you're like, oh, that's a great question. You can
let me finish this list. Okay, there's uh the what
did I used to say? I don't fucking care. I
don't give a fuck. There's that kid is uh. There's

(52:05):
the belief guy way back in the head, belief, way
back in the head, and he kind of does that. Yeah,
I don't give a fuck. I don't care. There's that guy.
And that's all from like when shit was happening to me.
It was the only way you could deal with it.
I don't give a fuck. I don't care. There's low
self esteem guy, There's delusional guy. There's a lot in there.

(52:28):
There's a lot in there. It's definitely a full sized car.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, I can see it.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Maybe maybe an suv. There's a lot of people in there,
but the one that is the belief guy was the
one that I would always go to because I had to,
because I had I had not because other than that,
it was bleak. Well, Jesus, that was sad.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Very sad.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
No, you could not have been more emotionless. That was sad,
very sad, very sad. All right, well, I felt like
we were right at the end of the therapy session.
All right, I need to make more money, so you
get the fuck out of here. Try not to make
eye contact with the person in the waiting room. Is
there ever anything worse than the overlap? You know when
you go long and then you see the next person

(53:12):
and then they see You're like, ah, yeah, you're fucked
up too. Huh. You know what's funny about your your
lack of emotion, it pairs well with your eyes.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Are you looking deeper?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
There's something about you have like husky eyes, like that's
the one dog. You don't know what the fuck it's
thinking because the eyes, the eyes are like mirrors, Like
is it gonna pull the sledder? Is it going to
use me as a food source. Like, that's how I feel.
We're just just.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
You're looking deep into my eyes. I like that.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Listen, you can try to make this as gay as
you want while you wear those things. I don't. I
don't give a shit. I'm just letting you know. I
have no idea what you're thinking.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
On a scale of one to gay? What is it? What?

Speaker 1 (53:55):
What is what? Where are we going? Your eyes, your sneakers,
soccer mom's sweatpants. What are you transitioning?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
We're transitioning. We got a transition fifty in the books.
We gotta get we gotta get in bill.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Are they starting some women's football league? You want to dominate.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Fascist sports?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Why did you cut your deck off growing? I couldn't
shut it off.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Women's flag football, flag football, fascist growing sport for women
right now?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, I am a fan of women's sports, and you
know what, women need to be fans too, you know,
and stop bitching at us because we're not watching it.
You need to go out and support women. Okay, stop
fucking just putting your hands up at a Beyonce concert
and thinking that's all you have to do with your life.
You have a lot more supporting to do. Okay, So dude,

(54:53):
I'm fucking killing on this part. I hope you appreciate this.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Well.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I just got so much MATERI sit next to you.
I like your old man walking in the mall.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Socks, got it? I bought those off Amazon. This is
dicky socks.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
There's two times in your life your doctor tells you
to go for a walk. The first time you become
a fat fuck and he tells you to take up golf.
Then all these fat focks go there, and what's the
first thing they do? They get a cart, right, and
then you just drive around in the knife hole. They
load up on calories, and if you don't drop of
a heart attack fall out of the cart, at some
point you live longer. Then they tell you to walk
in these abandoned malls, and then from your calves down

(55:36):
you have the exact fucking footwear. The only thing you
need is the velcrow stress bell cru one of them,
like it has to be bigger than the other, like
one of your legs is retaining fluid.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Those compression socks. Thoughts on this the current state of
the Patriots. No, Bill, can I call you Bill Will? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:04):
No, it's it's fine, right, Why would you call me? Will?
What point did you?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I don't know. I called Bill Belichick Will.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Oh you do?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
No? No?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Did you ever get inside that head?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Never?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Never?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
He doesn't let anyone in there.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Well he's the modern day Paul Brown. Do you ever
read on what Paul Brown did?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, he started the Browns and then he went down
to Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
In other words, you didn't no.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
If he could read, he would though if I could read.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Paul Brown was in the league. It was called like
the something, the AAFL, some fucking thing like that.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
It was.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
They went three years, the Cleveland Browns with Auto Graham
the first Tom Brady right fucking wins. They win the
championship all three years. Then he goes into the NFL
in nineteen fifty and the NFL was laughing at them,
saying they're not gonna do shit, and he ends up
going to the championship game like four years in a
row and wins one, either two or three of them.
Then Bobby Lane came with the Lions. So one of

(57:03):
the things that they did with him is they tried
to figure out, how is this guy winning so many games?
And what it was was he was the first guy
that took the kicking aspect of the game seriously. And
he had a field goal kicker what the fuck was
it was an offensive lineman, of course, and he was
kicking straight on what's oh yeah, what was his name? Yeah?
And this guy was lights out lou grou the toe grozer.

(57:25):
There you go. So and they were winning all of
these games by three points and two points and everything.
So he was the guy like it was. It was
him realizing that that was important and that could be
a competitive advantage. That oh my god, how did I
leave off? Adam Vinitari? Oh he is he? Is he
in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yet have they put they put out this year?

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Fucking ridiculous? Okay, that guy is first ballot, no question,
Hall of Famer. Adam vinitariy apologies, he probably shut this
podcast off walking around. They never got it. You're never
gonna with knowledge as kickers is that?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I was a Gaskowski guy? Who's that was?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
That? The guy was kind of fat.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
That was our kicker for my whole career. That oh
Staniskowski Guskowski Steve Gazkowski.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Oh I think you said, go to Kowski. I listen.
You get to a certain age you can't remember kickers' names.
I'm at that age.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I get it. I can't remember a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
You know, I liked with a dolt. Remember Reggie Robi
No for the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Oh my god, who was the guy that had the
block foot? My dad always talked about him.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Dem yeah, yep, and beat the Lions. That's why the
Lions they got to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I mean, it's just like they've been losing for almost
seventy years, since forty seven years, since there was yeah,
the forty and they've lost to everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
We'll be right back after this quick break. No eye contact, No,
I haven't think. I don't. I can't make eye contact.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Oh when you think yeah, when I think, well, let's work,
you're intimidating. No, let's work on that. Let's work on that.
You have some nice blue stare into my eyes and
explain the four minute of this. You should have called
my bluff because I wouldn't be able to handle it.
Because when he looks at you long enough, you can
smell the mint of his fucking jew is.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Harry Gance gold Bandit Copenhagen.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Copenhagen, Do you know bad? I want to try that,
but I know I shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
You shouldn't throw up right away we're talking about it.
You couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I like that reverse psychology.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No, I'm telling you, dude, you know what you guys
can't You can't do it.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Just at the end of this pockcast smash cut to
me puking in his backyard and then just got told you, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Told you so, can wed you Paul Brown? We were
talking about Paul Brown.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
No, we got passed. I want to check just where
you stopped listening.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Started this in Sinanati, Bengals. Yes, and the Browns.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Okay, and what came out of that and what came
out of that. But the West Coast offense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, with Bill Walsh it's the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah. And because they had that quarterback with that unbelievable
arm and then he got hurt because I think it
was a rotator cuff and they didn't know how to
deal with that back then, so then they had to
do the short quick passes that yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah, they replaced the run with short pass Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Because the quarterback blew out of his arm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
That's what it was. The guy had Bill Walsh to
his dieing day said, whoever the fuck that guy was,
was the greatest talent he ever saw that quarterback. Yeah,
and that might I don't know if that was a
dig with him Montana, I don't know what, but that's
what he said. And then he was next in line
when Paul Brown stepped down. But Paul Brown, I don't know,
for whatever reason, thought that Bill Walsh had some mental issues.

(01:00:50):
And not only did he he pass over him, he
sort of motherfucked him around the league. Yeah, So then
he went to San Diego, became like a receivers of
quarterbacks coach, then went to Stanford, rebuilt his career, and
ironically enough, eighty one plays the Bengals in the Super
Bowl before they and they said, do you feel is
this anything extra special because it's the Bengals? And he

(01:01:12):
said no. In the first play they called was some
classic razzle dazzle Paul Brown shit from the nineteen fifties.
That was his fuck you to him, and then he wonted,
how fucking I just that's that's one of my favorite
ones as far as you know, people not believing in
you and then coming back and rubbing the nosing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, crazy, No, No, because I just thought about when
I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
You guys, I want you guys to do a compilation
of his underwhelmed responses.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Yeah, no, cool. I thought about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
If you had an astronaut on here yet talking about
walking on the moon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
A rocky scientist Matty Patricia, No, I was thinking about
Bill Walsh. I actually when I was a kid, because
I grew up in the Bay Area, I was rehabbing
my I broke my back in high school from overuse
stress fracture, and I was rehabbing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
And your dad, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Well that's three hundred cuts a night, and you're taking
three hundred batting practice swings a night, and we're out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Jesus, did you ever read Andrea Augusty's book, No, open, dude,
it's forget about a sword. It's what you can read.
Not really sit in the backyard, get yourself from deep right.
You can listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
That's that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
You know what they have now for adults. They have
people that read you a story. It is Once upon
a time. My name was Andrea Augusty. The amazing thing
about that guy is he didn't even want to play tennis.
His dad decided he was going to be a tennis player,
and not only does he become a professional tennis player,
he becomes one of the greats of all time and

(01:02:51):
one of a handful of people to win on all
three surfaces. Yeah, Clay the grass, in the in the
in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
And it's one of the most incredible books I've read
because it's like, you know, Open Championships, and then also
he's like totally just saying he's that. You just don't
feel like there's one lie in the book. It's amazing that.
And and Steve Gorman's book about being the Drummer and
the Black Crows. You get like three pages into that book,

(01:03:17):
You're like, this man's not getting back together.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I gotta I gotta check that out. I've watched
some ship on Andrea Gacy. He had that he was
all on like drugs and ship too, right, wasn't he
like he got it into like crack.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
I don't remember that part of the book.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
I just remember as a bald guy when he started.
He went bald early, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
He had long hair.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yeah, but he was like super hairy. He was like
super hairy, So you know, the super hairy guys always,
that's why you like him. No, So he was he
was saying he had a piece, he was wearing a piece,
and he was playing in this big match and he
was sweating so much he was worried it was gonna
come off, and it fucked him up. He just talks
about everything. He was on TV wearing a fucking two

(01:04:05):
pey with the most epic mullet anybody had ever seen,
and all these chicks loved him, and so much of
his brand at that point was because he I think well,
early on in his career he was like the sex symbol,
all the ones that the chicks liked, but he hadn't
won anything big yet, so that was all. You know,
the man tit guys were given him shit about that.
So if that thing came, oh my god, I mean

(01:04:26):
he never he never would have liked that. First of all,
that would have been all the sponsorship gone. I mean,
I want to if you can recover from that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah you can. I think that's just because you're bald.
You're probably insecure about dude.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Okay, no, not no, no, Once you shave a head,
you don't give a fuck. You know what's great about
this haircut. I'm always ready to go, always always, So
I'm gonna just throw a shirt on. People think I
took a shower. I'm showered in weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Do you shine it? Huh? How come it's so shining?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Do you put a super white because I have superior genes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
But like, how often do you shave it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
But I said that, I go, this is gonna go
one of two ways. They're you gonna laugh at that
joke or get really silent, like, oh Jesus, Bill, you
really are from Massachusetts because LA is so open minded.
I love how they had like this vibe, like they're
fucking open minded. And every time the Lakers win a championship,
within two minutes a police car is overturned and on fire.
What is that an expression of how happy non white

(01:05:25):
people are in this city? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Cool? Go ahead, awesome Belichick at UNC, what are our
thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I mean, I don't I I like that he's back coaching,
But I'm also I'm sort of more fascinated with this
move that college football is doing. Like how much is
the NFL freaking out about a football march madness at
the end of their NFL schedule? I mean, who the
fuck is excited about Week seventeen eighteen when I can

(01:05:58):
watch the first time ever what is it eighteen? Teams
are gonna go out, it's gonna be it's gonna be insane.
And now I can watch guilt free because they're getting paid. Yeah,
I don't have to sit there and think, oh, you know,
there's some booster making all of this money. He's got
a yacht, you know, and some blow and all of this,
And like that Willis mcgahey hits one of the hardest
plays I've ever seen to watch as far as first grotesque,

(01:06:20):
and then also like the kid made no money, how
about his agent, huh on the phone with him? Good
for him? Good for him. So I'm more fascinated with that.
And then Okay, so now you got this guy that
was what forty years in the NFL, and now he's
coming down there, and I think I'm like crazy. I

(01:06:42):
think a lot of college coaches have haven't had to
deal with players getting paid on like a lot some
of them coach the NFL, went up to NFL, came
back down or whatever. But I think he's sort of
built more for this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And then time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
But then I'm wondering if he's gonna do that second
round draft pick thing that he did, or if he's
gonna take the blue chip guy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
You know, you know it's it's gonna be interesting because
I've thought about this. You look at free agency in
the NFL that's now transfer portal. You look at the
draft that's high school. But the draft you have to
draft guys in height. Like recruiting a guy in high
school you get full rain, so him being able to

(01:07:30):
scout guys for his scheme at an endless supply when
it it's really coming down to money now, and it's
just about how you're gonna handle your roster of money.
I think he's gonna do pretty good. It's pro football.
I'm gonna go literally pro football now right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
I'm gonna go on a limb and say, UNC is
never one of college football championship. They've always been a
basketball Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
They had some stars, Julius Peppers, Mac Brown coach.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
That was not the question. Western Mass.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Come on, West Mass, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Well coming to the end here. I'm just fucking with you, dude.
The fact that you came at me so nice, like
why would you do that? Now? I feel bad that
I said that, all right, we.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Built the show. Is like, man, Bill Burr could be
this show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, Bill, we wanted Bill Burr on this show. Jewels
is usually better at being well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
That's why I showed him a month earlier. I heard,
I heard the buzz around Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
We wanted you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
You know what, Bill Burr already has a podcast. You know,
we should pitch him another another podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Another one, the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I love that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
You like it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I love that one. I just like hearing you guys
like I don't know talk yeah, I know, but like
some of the ship that like that comes out about
guys you didn't want to play against what you were
going through during the game or or just all of
that stuff. It's it's I think that's why I love
the Mannings. Just it's so funny to just see them

(01:08:59):
now his fans watching the game, but like the psycho
level that they're watching it on is uh, I don't know.
That's what was always like the magic in the broadcast booth.
You had a guy who went to you know, journalism, yeah,
had a command of the English language, you know, and
then you'd bring in a former player and he could
add like color yes, it's that used to work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Now where do we go, Bull Belichick?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
We didn't Oh we didn't finish that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
We haven't finished, like maybe eighty percent finished.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I also invested in this company. Full disclosure, full disclosure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I invested in this coming the water wars here he
did this water wars? Bubs? Oh yeah, this bad boy
right here is nine?

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
How many years in a warehouse did that one sit? Versus?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Fresh water right from my tap with a filter. I'm sorry,
I mean mountain water? What is what is your mine
claims mountain water?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
What is your claim outline? Enhanced water?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
It balances your pH what do you get your period? No?
But it for your inflammation? No? But do you just
lay off sugar or you just drink my water?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Listen, I'm gonna stare deep into your husky eyes right now,
and I'm going to say that I have There's a
sixty percent part of me thinks alcohol alkaline. It doesn't even.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Exist same.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Honestly, It's like didn't they say with like like uh electrolytes,
Like that's not even a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
That's just like a word, like all electrolytes are salt.
So what you do is when you have an electrolyte
and you put electrolytes in your water, you're putting salt
in your water, so your body absorbs the water and
you don't piss it out. So that's how your body
holds the water.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
And I'll tell you why. I believe that, because alcohol alkaline,
you were holding tension and then when I brought up electrolytes,
you relaxed into the couch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I'm like, now, well, I know because Brady always put
the fucking electrolytes in his water and had to do
that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Okay, isn't that gatorade?

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Did he that sugar in water? So what did he.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Have his own gatorade?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
He had drops that he would put in his water
that were just salt water drops.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Literally anytime he would you would sit and watch him
put thirty drops of the every anytime, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
It's like funny now that someone took it to that level.
But I guarantee you, like everybody, that's that's going to
be like normal now, like oh it is. Everybody is
gonna be a thing. Now Now there's like or people
are going to play into their well, into their forties, you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Think, no, no, like him. You gotta be touched by God. Yeah,
I don't. Yeah, that's like forty five, not well into
like that. That that's insane, And he's fucked it up
for everyone because now everyone thinks quarterbacks can play that long.
Like we look at Kirk Cousins who tore achilles at
like thirty five, and we think, this guy, we're gonna

(01:11:59):
pay him one hundred and eighty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
The achilles injury. Used to that was the end of
your career. Now look now, like I remember when, uh,
when Kobe rests his soul, when he blew out his achilles,
I was like, oh, you know, this is that you know,
don't have an end like that, you know what I mean?
That's the worst, right, and uh, whatever the hell he did.
He went to Germany. They spun his blood. Now they

(01:12:22):
do that over here, spinning in the blood. I don't
know what it is. And he came back and you know,
he's still old, but he was still he never like
played at a level that was embarrassing. Like he was
great for the rest of his career. I think Dan Marino, Yeah,
damn Marino. He uh, he had an Achilles issue. What
was that early nineties?

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Look at that, I went full circle. This is what
happens with two traumatic children is after a while, neither
ones looking at each other, just sort of self soothing,
rubbing your head, just staring into the honeycomb wood, being like,
I wonder why he decided to do that? Was that
just a break up the pattern? Or does that make
it sound better in here?

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Cool? Let's get into this segment.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Hold, and before we move on from from Bill Belichick,
we found out through Bond John bon Jovi that Bill
Belichick is an avid drummer. Did you know that? No,
he's a huge drummer. Drummers like toured with bon Jovi
in the off season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Do you think you and Belichick can do a duet
drumming thing together?

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
A duet and usually a drum off usually compete with
that duet. You gotta be really good because you've got
to be playing the exec Uh. Yeah, that would be
fascinating to watch him play drums.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
That'd be fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Funny if he if he just let it all go,
it was like making like a stag face and all
of a sudden, Oh my god, there's a personality in there.
I'm just picturing him like, h you know, it's a
seven eight times on the first and then we went
to the course. It's a basic rock track bill. What
do you think about the next song you're about to play?

(01:14:01):
Why notes, we're onto it. It's like this song, you know,
it's another song, and this one's a couple seconds shorter,
but we're still gonna give it just as much as
we we did on the previous song.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
People never understood that he knew I'm not giving you
any boletin board material, like that's what he was doing.
So then the sports writers would attack him for having
no personality and all of that crap, and it's just like, no,
he's making your job difficult. You have to work. And
then they love the guy like Rex Ryan, like I'm
not going up there to GISs their ring. Look doing
that dumb shit?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
You know what? The article just wrote itself. So we
would we would literally we would have a guy. We
had a guy came in every year to teach us
on how to handle the media and deflect. He was
the guy who had to handle all the questions after
nine to eleven for the for the fucking White House.
He would come in and teach us on how to deflect.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
It must have been the quickest job interview ever. What's
your background on this eleven? All right, tell everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
We got our guy. I think he was a Navy admiral.
I forgot his name, and I know him. He's a
good I feel bad, but yeah, so we we would
have this guy come teach us, and it's it's pretty
crazy if you listen to when coaches and players talk
to the media, they'll literally give you game plans, like
when a coach says, you know, coach, what do you

(01:15:26):
got to do this week to win the game. Well,
you know, we got to run the football and we
got to do good. So you know that they're going
to be trying to emphasize.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I always just thought that that has to be a misdirection,
like they got to be saying they could.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
But a lot of the times they do what they say.
And Bill was always like, I'm not saying anything to
give them anything. So that's why it came.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Why didn't he just say that to him, like, listen,
I'm not this monotone. I just know what you guys
are doing, and you're gonna give my the other team
a competitive advantage, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
With injuries all that, like, well, why would we have
to give up? Like why would he ever talk about
an injury? Why would you give a timeline on an injury.
That's why whenever we had an injury, he'd always say,
just worry about what you got to do to get
that done. Because you go out there and you say, oh,
we're back in four weeks after you you sprain an ankle,
and then it takes five weeks and you're getting more questions, well,

(01:16:20):
was there a setback or if you come back early.
You know, when you give a timeline, it fucks everything up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
So that's why you're gonna get hammered with questions.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Hammered more. So. That's why you always were coy whenever
it came.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
They're not they're not your friends, No, no, that's but
I've always loved how they get upset though, if you're
not like an open book to him, and when they
just it's like, well, you guys are constantly fucking people over.
You're constantly trying to cause controversy where it isn't even there.
Like the local sports media, like in New York and Boston.

(01:16:53):
I don't read it out here, but like I was,
you would read the articles. It's like, are you four
or against our teams here? Like in New York, Like
New York, like they were questioning Eli after he beat
us twice, like what like what more does this guy
have to do?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Coughlin was on the hot seat each year he fucking
won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
That's the reason they are in the situation they're in
right now is because they let that guy go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I think I think he's still he's dead now, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Isn't it. Then he go down to Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, but he's he was old. They had to let
him go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
All right, Well there goes my theory.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Jack Let's power through this. Let's get into the games.
Get into these Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Really wait, we're going into the game.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yeah, we'll do it real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
How fucking long is this podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Were quick? Quick? Quick? Quick?

Speaker 7 (01:17:36):
Dolphins are coming off a beat down to the Niners
in Super Bowl nineteen twelve and four. This is Don Shula,
Dan Marino, Dwight Stevenson, some Hall of Favors on this team.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
Dan Reno's coming off his incredible MVP season.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Arguably the greatest season statistically, if you see how the
game was played, that he had forty eight touchdowns, and
the way that you could manhandle receivers and the quarterbacks
and all of that, and the fact that he put
those numbers up and they lasted from eighty four, I
want to say, till Drew Brees in like twenty ten,

(01:18:10):
So it lasted for almost thirty years that season that
it was like literally like Wayne Gretzky numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Yeah, But I also have a take on those elite
seasons of the past, like the Bear they had like
two hundred and seventy pound linebackers. When you throw four
receivers on the field, those guys can't cover space. So
like these new age offenses like the run and shoot
that Dan Reno used to run the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Wait, wait, who had two hundred and seventy pound linebackers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Well, just in general, the linebacker in linebackers were like
two fifty. No, yeah, they were huge, though, I'm just
saying they're fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
The defensive lineman was like two seventy. I looked at
the back of my football cards you just played the
game with. I had football cards. And then the big
thing this season was the refrigerator Perry he got you
know how much he weighed three three hundred and five pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Now they have entire like lines but that way like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
But those the linebackers of this generation and the d linemen,
they weren't space guys. They were there to stop the run.
The forty six, the Bear that was all linebackers and linemen.
You do that to a league a team, now, they're
just gonna spread you out and shred you. And a
lot of these teams, like the Dolphins and the Niners

(01:19:29):
of the past, they had these quick hitting throws which
were almost they were designed to beat these big teams,
you know, so like you had an edge on these
guys because these guys couldn't cover. They were too innovative
with these offenses. So when you have a guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Like what great point. Yeah, okay, First of all, nobody
figured that out. These guys did it. These guys exposed them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Well, they did and created the Nickel defense because of it.
He was the first one to take a linebacker out
and bring a third corner in in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
And uh, I understand that. Did Don Shula figured that out?
Did Don Shula have five white guys back there to
try and like what I'm saying is, I'm trying to
talk about this game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Okay, let's hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
And I understand that because you played in a different era,
I'm getting into your feelings.

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I also know it has nothing to do with the game.
It has more to do with you and your father. Now,
I mean, I'm not gonna debate you on this. You're
a professional football player. But it's just like I would
just say as a fan. For some reason, the first
fucking I don't know how many weeks, everybody was getting
fucking raped by this team. And he came in and
he wasn't dinking and Duncan down the field. He was throwing.

(01:20:37):
He was fucking onloading on these people. And like I said,
when you look at their defense, you know, look at
the fucking names on this roster. I'm not shitting on
these guys, but this is not like, oh my god,
they had this guy, they had that guy, they had
that guy. The whole team was basically the Dolphins. I'm saying,
was was Marino, Clayton, and Duper and they just, I

(01:20:59):
don't know, they like unstoppable against this this defense that
allegedly nobody could beat. So I don't know. And then
the fact also that he saved the undefeated, you know,
their undefeated season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I'll tell you what's what sucks is the AFC Championship
game that year was the Patriots versus the Dolphins. We
go down to the Orange Bowl. We had one there
in forever, and it's the worst thing ever is we
beat him. It was great as a Patriots fan. It
led to the worst Super Bowl ever, and it could
have been the rematch. It could have been the rematch.
And I gotta tell you, oh my god, if Dan
Marino goes in and he beats him again, he beats

(01:21:36):
him again, he beats this fucking unbeatable thing twice. I mean,
I mean, I don't know it. It's just that there's
a I call those the greatest games that never happened.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
Yeah, we covered that game with Gary Goman.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Oh the Orange Championship game, Holloway Brick by Brick crying afterwards.
I went to the airport after both those games when
we beat the Raid went down to Providence. You want
to talk pre nine to eleven, A bunch of drunk
Patriots fans on the tarmac. We just opened a door
we were standing and you remember those things where the

(01:22:10):
pickup trucks with the stairs would drive up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
To the plane.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
We had commandeered one of those. I didn't get on it,
but there was people who had gone all over the
top of it. It was a fucking shit show. And
these guys had to there was no security. They had
to walk through all the fans. I still remember Julius
Adams rest his soul, came walking by and had this
brown leather jacket on. Somebody behind me went bam bam
bam on his shoulder, just after he played football, and

(01:22:33):
he turned around and gave me a death stare. I
was like, who was that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Was sad guy? And we went down there after the
Raiders game, there was probably a couple hundred people. After
the Dolphins game, dude, there was like a thousand people.
And I'm sure they've read one The airport's Providence. They
wore flying to Providence. Yeah, yeah, you'd see, yeah, and
they we were on. We were on. The fucking plane
was pulling in and we had to like clear out

(01:22:58):
like it was the end of some cartoon or something.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
You know, those are some of the coolest things. When
the fans would do that. Like when we come home.
After we came home after beating the Kansas City Chiefs
in eighteen, we get back at like three in the morning,
four in the morning, because you leave right after the game, right,
And when we got there, there was probably ten thousand
fans just chilling. And you can't do it like you
said in the tar Maat and everything, but they would

(01:23:21):
chill outside the gate, and that's like the coolest thing.
Oh yeah, when the fucking you know, the communities out
there four in the morning, fucking going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah, I Tony Easton, I got the shake ca man.
He had a member's only jacket, which was the ship
maybe five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Still he came back their back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Yeah, no, they are. I hate when shit's like in
style and everybody wants it and then the second is
out of style. Everybody acted like they didn't want it
or they didn't have one of those things. Those fuck
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Skinny jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Skinny skinny jean's out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
They're out. They're back to the nineties, like baggy your
jeans bag here I go mid yeah go wrong yeah,
mid timeless yeah yeah, yeah, timeless.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Let's uh let's go through these Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Round out the support it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, no, yeah, you gotta gotta have a little little
run lift, little lift. Can't be all tightened in there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Yeah, that's as you get older, your balls start hanging
in the toilet water. You can't have that. Yeah, but
that's why that whole.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Crowd them it's a lot longer.

Speaker 7 (01:24:21):
Speaking of the long ball, Dan Marino was airing it
out in this game, segway of the year, baby oh Man,
tossing it all over the yard. The four to six
defense didn't matter, the three four didn't matter. Dan came
out was bombing them not more. We talked about Mark Duper,
all those guys putting up the first touchdown on this

(01:24:42):
vaunted Bears defense in thirteen quarters, right out of the gate,
thirty one ten at the half, they kept it rolling
thirty eight to twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Look, he's still he only threw for two hundred and
forty five yards.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Yeah, that's all he threw for. There was still a
great and you got it. Also if you look at uh,
the I mean just littered with Hall of famers. O. J.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Simpson was on there.

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
Simpson was he was on the broadcast oh OJ was
on the broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
I remember that year they had UH and then they
had UH, Joe Namath, Joe Namath and OJ, and OJ
used always be see what I would do right there?
I would have cut it back. He's always say what
the running back did wrong? And then I remember Joe
Namath was that was a good play, just the way
I always said, that was really good play. He had
a think he always play that was like that was
like the buzzword that sounds like, oh, I love those

(01:25:31):
guys this game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
May us think of when they had Dennis Miller be
on Monday Night Football and how Dennis Miller that the
idea of that I think was great. It was way
ahead of its time, and I don't think Dennis Miller
was the right person.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
It was like the first podcasting vibe. Yeah, like way back, uh,
way back in the day. You know what some of
you was bringing up is how remember the NHL had
that stupid trail behind the puck that one year and
they go as much as everybody made fun of that,
like the amount of the amount of graphics that are
now like on on the screen, you don't notice it.
But I would say, I don't think anybody ever topped.

(01:26:05):
They gotta get Lane's coming out at the globe back
of the puck.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
They should bring it back. I can never see the
puck on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
My favorite argument to that was one of the NHL
players goes, I mean it's literally a black object against
the white surface. Like I don't you try to just
start with just start watching the player. Everybody seems to
be paying attention to there's a good chance he has
the puck. I never had a problem following the puck,
and I used to watch it on that little square TV.

(01:26:38):
Stan Jonathan honorable mention. If we're going to say, like
the tough guys they kept the finesse players safe, I
would say, Terry O'Reilly Stan Jonathan J. Miller, Lynden Byers.
That was that was my whole error was the end
of Wayne Cashman in I don't know, Wayne Cashman in
Terry O'Reilly towards towards the end of the thing, into
those cam Neely era ray board and all of that,

(01:27:01):
and uh, that was my favorite ever going to see
hockey in the Boston Garden and they had all these
great the old arenas. Yeah, those basketball and hockey arenas
you were like on top of the game. But I
found out Now obviously with luxury boxes it makes them bigger,
but the upper decks they can't have that steep a
grade anymore because it's too dangerous, because people are too

(01:27:21):
fucking fat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
It's just like, well, why don't you or drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Get people in shape?

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah, I mean or drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
I got one. Do you guys ever see that guy
at the Reds game? That fucking guy is yoked and
he reaches for a foul ball in the upper deck
and he goes all the way over and with one
arm like hung on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I do remember theme of that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Oh my god, he would he would have died, and
he would have fucking broke the back of whoever he
landed on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
That would have been. I wonder how many deaths have
been in the stadiums of like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
So we fell off the back of the Patriots statement
and died Onunday night football before they had the fence
up there. Fucking fell off the back there he is.
Look at that guy if you see the video, he
is like in such like eighties shape, like his torso.
I mean, he could have fought like a bear.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
What a guy let's name the game. All right, what
do you think this is?

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I've had a great time, by the way, are you Yeah, No,
I'm having a great time. I'm just doing what I do.
I'm just being a dick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
I like it, you like it? Okay? All right? Name
the game Miami on a Monday Monday night in Miami,
the greatest Monday Night game. Monday Night Marino Marino torches
the Bears, Dan dismantles the Bears, Dan and duper dismantled
the Bears. Or do you have a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Name Monday Night Marino that kind of flows Monday Night
Marina Dan destroys the Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
All right, let's score the game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Yeah, Monday Night Marino?

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Like that? Score the game? Is this the greatest game
of all time? Let's score stakes? Zero to ten decimal's okay, bill?
The stakes of this game? Fourteen eighty five Bears undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is I'm I'm not gonna lie
to you. I picked a you know, kind of went
with the jaguar of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
This is actually a really good game. A game, and
this is a great stake because this is the undefeated
franchise that's playing the team that could potentially go undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
I get you guys want to go hot topic. I
picked an indie band here, so I would say is
far the stakes, as far as Dan Marino's legacy and
me being able to shut down everybody in a sports bar,
I give it a ten. But as far as overall
in the pantheon of greatest games of all time, the
fact that it's not even a playoff game playoffs, I

(01:29:43):
would say three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Three okay, because.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
When people show up with real games, we love that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Oh yeah, Dad, Well you guys have been shipping on it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Well, Jules just can't ask a question. Yeah, Jiels has
been through a lot eighty the he's gotten me today,
And I say it every time I have, like a
comedian or you on here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
There's a sadness to him behind those husky guys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I've been here for ten years ago, I know there is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
There is a sadness, you know something. I like breaking
people's balls, but if they have that look on like
I saw the pain on your face, I just I
can't do it. And then you did it to me
and it just makes me feel you know, he used
to do that. Bob saggatt rest is so I look
at his Bob Bob would like die laugh and everything said,
but every once in a while, you do a joke,
and he was just even and it wasn't that you

(01:30:36):
hurt him, that he was disappointed in you. And I
remember when I did his podcast, I asked him if
he dyed his hair with uh jest for almost men
and he made and he made that sad face because
the whole podcast he was trying to get me to
open up, and he was trying to be nice and

(01:30:57):
loving because that's what he was. And it bothers me
that I didn't let him do it. But I was
having so much and I think that that was when
he finally gave up and just realized that was too damaged.
And I remember I texted him, I said, hey, man,
thanks again. I had a great time, and he goes,
did you. I still can't believe he's gone. Man. I

(01:31:19):
loved him so much. Yeah, he was the best. He
would have been a great guest. Instead he ended up
with me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Wouldn't have it any other way. I'm gonna go with
the five. Okay, Jack seven eight. I had seventy to
one star power of this game. A lot of Hall
of famers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Oh star parers, this game ten ten, fuck come on.
Walter Peyton, all time Russian leader at the time, Dan Marino, Ditka,
Don Shula, Richard Dent, Mike Singletary, Gary fencik.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Uh Rivera, Willie Galt, Dan Hampton, a lot of good players,
Matt Suey.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
He used to block for Peyton man not Peyton, so uh.
Walter Payon, Walter Payton, Walter Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
I'm gonna go with a nine. A lot, a lot
of a lot of good players.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
There is a tough crowd over there, the Russian judges
over here, Yeah, the Russian judges, all right. Gameplay of
this game reference, by the way, it's so funny that
they fucked us in like figure skating, like we give
a ship. Oh you goddamn Russians got them hockey though,
yes we did once, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Nineteen sixty two gameplay of.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
This It's a great band called Russian Circles, which is
a hockey workout thing that they came up with. And
there's a band, the incredible band name Russian Circles.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Kind of like rock.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
It's uh yeah, but heavy, no singing instrumental with one
of the fucking most killer drummers out there right now.
See that I'm under the wire. I am under the wire.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Here check them out, Russian circles. Yes, gameplay, gameplay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
I would say I gave it a ten because I
was so sick of watching the Bears destroy everybody. And
they did that stupid Super Bowl shuffle thing, which was
cringey the second it came out, and I don't know,
I just I just they they were just hamming it

(01:33:19):
up too much. So and then also, you know, maybe
I kind of knew that if my team ever played them,
we would lose, like forty five to three, forty six
to three.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
How about the fact they never gave Peyton the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
And you know the fridge, he gave it to the fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
They gave it to the fridge. Listen, Mike Dicka got
you know, he got knocked around a lot back in
the day.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
That's sad.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
So maybe he just forgot for half a second. Yeah,
that's a weird era. And Mike dick is when he
had the blonde highlights, the blonde highlights, dude, he looked
like a fucking coke dealer. He had that must. He
looked like the cop that would shake it down, take
your drugs and now you work for me, that's what
he looked like when he first started coaching, when he

(01:34:04):
had the blonde highlights, and then he just had the
total brown mustache. I loved him, dude, that guy was.
He was scary at home. Just in an interview. Remember
when he was doing that next question, he was staring
at me, but he just said, fucking had it or not? Like,
I just can't admit imagine being that much of a
man and then having to sit across from those sports
writers and any the theory courtier.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
How come you ran it and stay it pissed?

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
And he's just like, I wanna twist your fucking head off.
Oh maybe I'm projecting.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
All right, I'm gonna go with the gameplay of uh
seven seven okay.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
Jack had seven seven et a six point nine. Name
of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
I give this game a ten. Oh the name of
the game is a ten. I just I just love
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I'm gonna go with eight eight.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
You know what I see with your numbers? I see respect.
That's what I like.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
It's actually what I know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
It's intimidating to come here. You know, one of the
great wide receivers of all time, flanker whatever they called you, slot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Slot, even though I had more catches on the outside.
But seven whatever point eight?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
How about the touchdown passed you through?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, Nola, that's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Does your dad give it up when you did that?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
My dad?

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
You cot a latim more.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
No, my dad's my biggest fan, Joe. When I was
a kid, he was tough, tough motherfucker. I did.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
I did what I had the dough to get you
where I wanted you to be. I made to make
your dreams come true.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
He says, He goes, you know what, I look back
on how I parented you, and I think I should
have been thrown in jail. He said that a couple
of times.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
Due, I mean, you can't ask you can't ask it
anything more than that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
All right, So this game is thirty eighth overall. It
is just ahead of l Way versus Montana nineteen ninety
four Week seven Chiefs versus Broncos we did with Eric
stone Street, I believe, and then the twenty twenty one
SEC Championship Uga versus Bama.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Yeah, that's really super Bowl twenty one is the thirty
ninth best game of all time. That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
What do you got the best little Patriots heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Yeah, yeah, little Patriots. Can I tell you what game
everybody loved that I fucking hated? Which game was that
Chiefs Bills playoff game? When neither defense could stop? I
was like, what am I even? What am I watching?

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
I had the same exact feeling you talk about football anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
This is like I'm watching some video games. The NBA
is good, they'll listen. The NBA is it's a weird time.
It's the greatest shooters of all time, but it looks
like a shoot around. They're just running from the three
point R two. Of course, yeah, it's weird, but I mean,
but I will say I will never stop being amazed
that some seven foot guy can drain at three. Now,

(01:36:44):
like that was one of those things like you hold
that happened once a year or just for whatever reason,
garbage time you'd have that, you know, backup White center
would be and he would put it up, and if
that thing went in, people would talk about it for
a week. We were being like study class, you know,
study hall or whatever, just be like, I know, but
whatever out with fucking you know. Rick Roby hit that
fucking three pointer against the Kansas City Kings way back

(01:37:07):
in the day. I'm not saying that happen. I forget
who did it, but like or like Minute Bowl, you know,
would do stuff like that. Now it happens all the time.
So it's this weird thing where I think the talent
is the greatest it's ever been, and I don't buy
into that shit. Like all these kids today, the soft
they couldn't play in another era. It's like they would
play differently and the guys from your era would play
this way. If that's if that's how the game is

(01:37:29):
being played, like that whole thing that Lebron couldn't. I mean,
he's basically a defensive lineman playing hoop Like I look
at him and he would be like Anthony Mason that
could score fifty if he played on those early nineties
next teams.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Yeah he I mean, it's just time always the athlete
will always get better just from information studying. Like we
he used to be a folklore on how Jerry Rice
used to train. Now I can go on Instagram and
watch my favorite football player.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
His women crossfitting that level. Yeah that's what they do.
It's like all right, but then like everything becomes possible,
Like you remember, who's the guy in the Giants who
made that ridiculous catch like that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Now, Odell, Yeah, Now like everyone does.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
It because they practice it and they got those things
that you go like this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
But it takes me off because a lot of these
guys try these one handed catches when you could put
two handing catches on it. And then they dropped one
handed catch.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Guess what, You've just dipped your toe into becoming an
old man, because that's what you let me tell you.
So I'm Carrid when I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
You use both your goddamn hands, stop trying to get
on television, and the fucking sticks you get the fuck
off the field.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
You gotta start smoking a pipe.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I like pipes. Like pipes, gotta get third downs and
get touchdowns. We'll be right back after this quick break bill.
Did we miss anything on this game? No, I think
I don't think that that that we did.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
And I am happy that they there was a forum
here to put a little more. I feel the proper
perspective on Dan Marino's career. And you know he could have,
like you know, he kept re signing with the Dolphins.
He could have left, he could have gone somewhere else.
He could have done that baby shit and just go

(01:39:18):
pile on with somebody else. And he didn't. He stuck
it out. And I think that you know the way
these you know, skip whatever, these skippy, fucking guys who
never played the game, look at him. He's just the
thing about them is they sportswriters. Is their thing is
championships is their way of taking out their own shortcomings

(01:39:43):
on professional athletes. And the reality is all of these
leagues have twenty eight teams then, so you had a
one and twenty eight year mathematically chance of fucking winning.
Nobody plays for twenty eight years, so most people are
not going to have a ring. And that's like in
to be like, you know, you know, you know what

(01:40:03):
my knock is on that guy. These fucking guys who
are gonna drop a heart attacks at forty five, the
way that they judge you guys. So I mean, if
you know the deal, haven't played with the Patriots. It
isn't any one person you gotta have. You gotta have
the coach, you gotta the players, you gotta the GM,
you have to have the owner, and you have to
have luck. You have to have all of that shit.
That's what the Chiefs have, right now and it's going

(01:40:24):
their way, Jesus, is it ever, it's it's all of
that stuff. And then when when somebody goes on or run,
like like the amount of people that aren't gonna get
rings now because of what the Chiefs are doing, or
the amount of people that didn't get rings you know
when Jordan played, or what the Patriots did, what the
Yankees did in the late nineties to hold that against somebody,

(01:40:45):
you know, as I just think I never listened to that,
and it's always bugged me. And I fucking hated I
fucking hated the Dolphins. And there was a period where
I hated Dan Marino just because he was beating us,
but I always respected him. And then you know, the
long or he did it, and I started hearing those
sports writers because we would watch him twice a year
come in and do what he did to us, and

(01:41:05):
I would just be like, these guys are this is
fucking ridiculous the level of shit that this guy's getting. Yeah,
and he's down there like, you know, we've got the
franchise on his back, so huge, damn Marino fans. So
I'm thanking you for letting me come on here and
at least presenting a different argument when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Shit, No, we appreciate you coming on. Uh damn Reno.
I've met him a few times. Such a cool dude.
He doesn't get the respect that he You know, if
he were to play it nowadays, I mean, he'd be
like a six thousand yard quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
I actually wouldn't say that to him at a benefit.
He did and he was like, oh, I don't know
about that. I go want he fucking threw for forty
one hundred yards? When when that he was?

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
When I met him when we were hanging out as
a Super Bowl were at a cool restaurant in Vegas.
I saw him. He had a dip in with a
cool sport code on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
What about his release quickest relief arm goes up, all
comes out. That's what his dad said, Dude, it looks
like it's it's they sped up the film. He just
goes it's like a machine. And that was another thing
that I think helped him with, Like playing against the
Bears is no matter how good their rush was, he
could get the ball out so quickly and yeah and

(01:42:16):
so accurately. And that was my big thing, Like we'd
pay him twice a year, maybe SAKA once and when
we finally did, I would like run on the TV
like I was just so building up, like fuck every
time you thought you had the guy, Oh, it was
always complete. All right, I'm starting to hate him again
thinking about him playing the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Well, Bill, thank you so much. Everyone. Go out and
check out Bill Burr's new special that comes out in March,
Drop Dead Years on Hulu. Also, Bill's made his Broadway debut.
How's that? That's cool?

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
I know you're not reading the right tenis in March,
coming out in Yes, yes, I haven't done any Broadway days.
Special hasn't come up. Special comes out in March on Hulu.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Uh, you're Ian Colkin. Yeah, he's catch me out right now? Yeah?
I see him on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Coming in here. If they had a thousand lists of
expressions that you were gonna use, cats me Out is
not on that fucking list?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Did wait?

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Wait? Did you wait a minute? Wait a minute? Did
you feel like you had to say that because cats
was on Broadway? Do you have a hole of these
shoes make way more sense now?

Speaker 8 (01:43:24):
I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Cats me Out, cats me Out?

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Best things in the slice bread.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
These knees.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
These knees.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Uh yeah, that's that's your Kansas. That's the Kansas coming out.
These tell you have more trouble now a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Len Gary Glenn Ross.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Yep, Glengary Glen Ross on Broadway. Uh, I got Monday
Morning podcasts, and I do anything better with Paul Versey
would be a great guest for your show.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Gotta get Paul in here.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Okay, he almost fucked up Southern saying I ever heard
what that boy fuck a rock if you thought a
snake was under it. Wait, hey again, that boy would
fuck a rock if you thought a snake was under it.
I was just I don't know what that means. I
don't either, but I need to talk to my agent.
Where have you booked me?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I love Southern terms though they had all that boyd
fucked mud like. I don't thank you? Bill? Sorry? Thanks?
What an episode of Bill burd You know what? I
always get a little. I feel like I'm two for
two on Bostons actors. He clammed up, clam up, clammed up.

(01:44:29):
The lights got too bright for you. He look clammed up.
He got all my shoes. This fucking guy. I wanted
to call him a boomer. I'm like that, that's a
boomer joke. He might be a boomer, though he definitely is.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
I was hoping you'd rag on him because he was
calling you kind of effeminate for wearing the shoes. But
he wore your jersey in SNL like, did he yeah,
wearing another man's jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Come on, no, that's kind of cool. It's kind of tight.
Bilbert worries your jersey that it's tight. We'll rack on
him for that. But he was awesome. He was awesome.
He was awesome. But it's time for the Chill Zone,
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(01:45:16):
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(01:45:39):
is four two four two nine one two two nine zero.
Let's get into it. Grab one, Grab one. They're nice
and cold and chilly, all right, ready into this.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
There's Tim Mulsky calls some fucking such Florida. Just want
to know how do you feel about Aaron Lennon Jets?
Are they gonna make it over the hump Finally? I'm believing.
I'm buying in. I think he's the man. I think
he's a difference maker. I think he's the one to

(01:46:16):
bring us back to the Palm Sland in the AFC East.
Let me know what your thoughts are. Love your show.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Thanks Tim Mulasky. That's a great name, Mulawsky Mulaskey from Florida,
Central Florida. Is that like Orlando? Yeah, that's that's a
U s U c F territory. You know who lives
in Orlando? Charles Woodson. Really, he lives in Orlando. He
loves it. I want to go visit. Marshall. H Marshall. Yeah,

(01:46:49):
it's a huh. Kevin Smith guy, Yeah, a lot of you. Yeah,
it's pretty good. Now let's get back to the question
of Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Is he going to
be the guy to bring him over the hump?

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
I'm excited for the Aaron Glenn higher. I like him
as a coach, I think, and he's a former player,
he's he's and he was a former really good football player.
He's shown nothing but greatness. I like this press conference.
Did you see his press conference? I thought he sounded
like he could command a room. It just it sucks

(01:47:23):
because that's a tough job. You know, it's not just
being a coach there. So like to make him make
the Jets finally get over the hump. You know, in theory,
he's taken over a pretty solid defense. If he can
get that defense popping, you know, you get a little

(01:47:46):
because I mean Sala had him going yeah, And so
you bring in Aaron Glenn there, and he he kind
of knows that market man. He wanted that job. So
I think that makes a difference. But it's going to
depend on like the offense, you have to figure.

Speaker 4 (01:48:02):
Out quarterback, you have to figure out some front office stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Yeah, well that like, is Aaron gonna play ball? Is
he because he's he there? Is he gonna bring him back?
And if he's gonna bring him back, he needs to
be a positive And I'm not saying he's not a
positive guy. But you gotta do the little ship like
you're gonna have to be at the the off season,
like you gotta you gotta have a new culture of like, guys,

(01:48:27):
we gotta be a part of that culture. We gotta
be a part of that culture. Aaron does that, like,
that's slam dunk move right there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
I saw he saw Dan Campbell do it in Detroit,
and so you know, you can see that blueprint of
what you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
No, yeah, I'm not worried about that. It's just it's
not it's not even for these coaches that could be
good head coaches, or it's about the situation they're going into,
and like, it's a crap shoot if you don't have
a quarterback. It's a crap shoot when you do have
a quarterback. So like, and it's ultimately about that, you know.
So I'm I'm I'm rooting for Aaron Glenn, not against

(01:49:02):
the Patriots, but you know, I'm rooting for him because
I respect the hell out of him. I think he
did a great job with this defense in Detroit that
had like full next man up mentality. But they all
when they still were able to make plays and get
off the field for the consistent part of the year
with all those different players. I mean, that's something to do.

(01:49:25):
That's the coach. So they believe in it. I'm hoping
he does well.

Speaker 9 (01:49:30):
Okay for every other sports fan outside of Kansas City
and Philadelphia, like we're in total health.

Speaker 8 (01:49:38):
The super Bowl is gonna be the worst.

Speaker 9 (01:49:39):
Can we not play it? I would like to see
both loose and this game against the Bills and the Chiefs.
Clearly everyone should know now that the only person who
can beat Patrick Mahomes is Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
This is a great super Bowl. There's there's history on
the line. Regardless if you hate it or you like it,
you know this is a historical moment. No, no, no
back to back team has even got to the Super Bowl.
I don't think. I'm pretty sure like it's been like, yeah,
there hasn't. No, don't fact check me, and I'm I'm in.

Speaker 4 (01:50:16):
I mean we had the Bills go to four super
Bowls but didn't win any.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
No, this I'm talking about winning the back to back winner.
I don't think has ever gone to the super Bowl
like this is. This is some uncharted territory. This is
fucking This is insane, especially in the error we're in
right now. You know, when New.

Speaker 4 (01:50:34):
Orleans is turf too, So no excuses from the Eagles
this time.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
The Eagles, the Eagles are good. Man. I've been talking
myself up and I've been I've been I've been against
these Eagles all year. But like, look, I thought that Sirianni. See,
I don't want to jump on because the last time
I did something like this, I jumped on the Sam
Donald train and then what I slap him in the ass.

(01:50:59):
He ships in my fuck in hand. Okay, I still
think that Philly like they they've played good, they've played good.
Vig Dangio and you gotta get you gotta. I gotta
tip my hat to Sirianni, like he's been dealing with

(01:51:19):
a lot of ship and and they're there. But he's
got they gotta win this thing. And the thing is
they got a hungry ass. Sakwon Barkley for two weeks
to get healthy. He's gonna do it. You see how
You see how fucking motivated he was. You see that
this is gonna be a good super Bowl, you know,
for all the ship the next year. And he's gotten.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
He's been a coach for WET three years and he
has been to the Super Bowl in two of those years.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Hey, what's up, guys. My name is Edgar Carrera from Yakoma, Washington,
home of Cooper Cup. Quick question for you guys. Do
you think if Patrick mahomes three peats and this Super
Bowl that they would be considered better than the twenty
fourteen to twenty eighteen New England Patriots let us know,

(01:52:06):
go Hawks.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Yeah, they probably would. Yeah, back to back to back. Yeah,
they've got four Super Bowls in a short ass time.
You got a a I mean, you gotta tape your cap.
But that's some. That's some. That's when you become big dogs.

(01:52:29):
These are big dogs. They're a big dogs. Unprecedented three years,
A big dog. I don't like saying it, but it's
the truth. You know, that's a big dog.

Speaker 4 (01:52:41):
They got work to do for the whole Patriots experience.
But the second dynasty.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Yeah, the big dogs right now.

Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Dogs, it's salon your guy from the old nut House nation.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Hey, listen, there's a lot of a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:52:55):
Of negativity down out there around this Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:52:57):
You know, the Chiefs getting pushed through and I don't
know with the Eagles rematch.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
Blah blah blah, your ship down.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Listen, Let's take a step back and just be happy. Happy.
We got football, happy, we got a game.

Speaker 6 (01:53:12):
Happy we can sit around, crack a cors light, eat some.

Speaker 9 (01:53:16):
Wings, get some pizza, hang out with friends, family, your dog,
your you know.

Speaker 8 (01:53:21):
If you're a cat guy, that's cool too.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Whatever, we're happy for you.

Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
Let's just be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
We got some mother e fin football and that's it,
all right, love that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
I agree. It's a great message down. That's that's happiness.
Someone asked me, what's your happy place? What's your answer?
I went into thinking like happy Gilmore, you know, like no,
but mine was my dog and my and Lily, Lily's

(01:53:54):
Lily's practicing shooting goals and smoking them every time, like
one hundred a hundred. In my happy place, Well, Rocky's
being a good dog and not going after the ball.
He's just sitting there jumping up, celebrating like a well
trained dog. Woll Well, I'm sitting back in a load

(01:54:19):
chair watching with the I think I got two kettlebells
and I'm just doing sets of random sumo squats.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
And you're working out in your happy place.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
In my happy place with like a band doing some
glute stuff. Make my body feel hella good. Watching my
kids score hello goal with my dog well trained. That
was my happy place, Big old it was funny. That's
what I thought about. I was sitting there, like, where
would my happy place? It'd be that. Yeah, she's trying
to get herself better. Dog is pretty good. Fuck it

(01:54:56):
my activity. Do you have a therapist? No? But I
need one?

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
Hello?

Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
What is the city that you think is deserving of
the super Bowl that hasn't had a super Bowl set
there yet?

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Okay, that's all?

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Bye?

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:55:16):
A city that has never hosted the super Bowl? City
which was the best one to host a new super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
We think about this.

Speaker 4 (01:55:26):
I'm gonna I'm just gonna say, Boston. How fucking tight
would that be? Cold weather super Bowl? Back to the roots.
Foxburg was a little bit far from Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
It's like, there's no stadium Jellett. Oh, so it's gonna
be at Gelee, just like how San Francisco does it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
All this shit's in San Francisco and the States in
Santa Clara.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
No. I I like warm super Bowl just because we
lost in two cold super Bowl. We lost in super
cold super Bowl in Indian. I know it was in India,
but it's still cold super Bowl. And then Minnesota cold
super Bowl. Don't like cold super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:56:01):
So what's a warm city Nashville. No, they're probably getting
one soon. I need to get a new stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
Where's another city, Where's a warm area? It's perto. Puerto
Rico's a.

Speaker 4 (01:56:14):
City account mm San Juan.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
The Gulf of America just put on a float, and
the Gulf of America, the US Virgin Islands?

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
What about Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
What about the Aloha? That would be kind of tight.
Have they ever had a Super Bowl in Hawaii? Just
the Pro Bowl? I drove that. That's where I would go.
It's dilapidated as ship. I would go to Hawaii. Do
you got to redo the Aloha ball?

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
No, they gotta the Yeah, this is like the World Cup.
We we would fucking we would blow that thing out
and build an extravagant beautiful This is like a four
year down the road we got And I love the
history of of the the what what is it? The
what Bowl? Is it called the low Hall Bowl because
that's where uh, that's where the Rainbows used to play.

(01:57:00):
Warriors like Colt Brennan and stuff all used to watch
that stuff. And I went to Juko show. Yeah Chang,
Yeah he's somewhere, but uh yeah, we gotta go full
new thought. Norm Chow does the coin flip norm Chow
Lard Hamilton would have to be a part of it
in some form or fashion. I want him like like

(01:57:24):
to open the ceremony, He's got to surf a big wave.

Speaker 4 (01:57:27):
Well, maybe you go like the Jacksonville route and you
have a pool in the new Stadium and Laird is
just in there holding his breath.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
No. No, but there would be like you know, like
when you do like the super Bowl, like you know,
like Fox would host it obviously, and you have like
the pre shows stuff and there's always like the the
the like cut ups and like the intury ductory like

(01:57:54):
cool uh things that they put together.

Speaker 5 (01:57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Yeah, it'd be like him, Like it'd be like a
James Bond thing where he'd surf in and like deliver
the ball like because he's like you know what I mean,
he's pretty big over there. And there's probably some like
and some other guy that he would he would want
to have him join him because he wouldn't want he
wouldn't want to take all the the attention of Hawaii.

(01:58:20):
He'd want someone probably from there as well, because that's
the kind of dude he is. So you'd have two
of them surfing in on big waves, getting pulled in.
Maybe I'll be on the jet ski guy. They'll teach
me how to do the jet ski thing. I'll pull
him in and then we'll fucking we'll go and we'll
start it. Huh maybe starting nah too? Is not Come on,

(01:58:42):
this isn't This isn't a dream. This could actually happen. Okay,
So Hawaiian next super Bowl? Say I dig it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
I'm going for Boston or Green Bank. Would be fun
just for the history and the culture.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Dude, Hawaii dog, that's tight. That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Hi, my name is Martha from Hawaii.

Speaker 6 (01:58:58):
I'm wondering what you would I would drink on the Monday.

Speaker 8 (01:59:01):
After the super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
But if you lost, Martha from Hawaii, what would you
do or drink on the Monday after the super Bowl?
But if you lost, definitely probably drinking a smoothie always.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Or a course light maybe a course light course light.
What did you do on a Monday after a loss?

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
The Indianapolis one? Just like just done, go home, chill.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
Yeah, I just remember going. I remember that next like
to travel home with the team? You travel home that night?
Was the next day, next day, next day so brutal,
and he just went home and it was like cold, snowy.
Wasn't it snowy? Not twelve Maybe it wasn't. Usually was cold,

(01:59:51):
but it wasn't. Yeah, this was a bat And then
you're just like planning on, like, man, I want to
get out of here.

Speaker 4 (01:59:58):
How quickly do you go to the facility to clean
out your ship? And like like the next day?

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Who you're hanging out there for? I'd be there for
the next couple until I left. So still you still
do your routine. Yeah, do your ship, go in and
see the boys, eat some free food, getting no getting
no ot tub, cold tub, sit there. Everyone's just departying,

(02:00:32):
everyone's leaving and you're thinking about everything you did wrong
that whole off season.

Speaker 8 (02:00:45):
Hey, Julian Jack and Kyler Sam from Pennsylvania. It's been
a Patriots fan for a long time. My question is
what is the most cool or interesting fact about playing
in the Super Bowl that the average person not know?
Excited for the twenty twenty five season going to be
great for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Thanks Pennsylvania. Were just talking about that with Lily. She's like,
I want to go to Pennsylvania, Like why do you
want to go to Pennsylvania. She goes, I think it's
beautiful there. I go, what what? Well, you were just
in Pennsylvany, I know, but I was like, how do
you know Pennsylvania. I think it's because it sounds like Transylvania,

(02:01:26):
and that's what because that's what I used to think
as a kid. I wanted to go Pennsylvania because I
think it's like where the vampires are trans So, yeah, Pennsylvania.
Super Bowl fact, the average person wouldn't know. Average person
wouldn't know that you have to pay for all your

(02:01:47):
tickets at face value, and then you have to pay
extreme amount of money for all your friends and families, hotels,
and so all the money you make in your playoffs
you basically spend at the super Bowl and you play

(02:02:07):
for free. For the love of the game. Memories after
last time.

Speaker 4 (02:02:12):
Also, I think a fun one that you've told me
is that you because there's two teams, they both do
a party and they play on a party and there's
like concerts and musicians and it's a whole party, and they.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
Still do Yeah, there's a losing party. Yeah, it does one.
There's a losing party. The vibes are that's cool. I
suspect no vibes except for Rob's there. Rob did go
ham with lmfao with a broken ankle after the loss.
He did, he he but like he made the vibes good.
We needed that. Yeah, let's do too, fucking Rob.

Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
Hey, how's it going? This is Evan calling from Los Angeles.
I was wondering if.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
If you think the.

Speaker 6 (02:02:53):
Chiefs and the Eagles were playing each other in a
beer pong tournament, who would they choose for either side?
And who do you think would come out on top?
Takes for your time, long time by.

Speaker 2 (02:03:07):
Oh, that's a good question to two guys. Two guys.
So Chiefs, Chiefs, is you know Patrick knows how to play?
You know for a fact that he I think he
even showed it in like documentary. He's fucking, he's wet,
he's he's clutched. Brainer, no brainer, and he's probably better

(02:03:28):
with like ten beers in him. And then who's this
partner it's got? I mean, it's gotta be Travis, right,
he probably knows how to play. I think he knows
how to play too, though. Yeah, it's gotta be a
dude on that team. There's someone in that on that team.
That don't. We just don't know his name who.

Speaker 4 (02:03:44):
I think it might be dark Horse, Andy Reid. Andy
Reid put on a Hawaiian shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
I bet it's defense. He is the king of a barbecue.
And you know, I think he's Mormon though, so they
probably use like red bull.

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
Yeah just just water water yeah, Mormons caffeine. No, they don't,
they can't do red Bull.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
Speaking of Mormons, how great is that move that show
American Prime Evil?

Speaker 4 (02:04:14):
Will you American Prime Evil?

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
Is that? Then him on the show? I'm like, is
it prime full Prime Evil? It's just spelt weird? Yeah, great,
great show. You get Peteburg on the show. I want
to get it. He's fucking so cool. I would love
now that he has like he has a reason to
do media. He's so cool though, he freaking uh he's
got such a wild career too. He's had a wild

(02:04:37):
career and he's he's always connected with like the coolest,
Like he connected me during the fires with like freaking
a bunch of the firefighters. Two of like the biggest
firefighters in uh l A are from Boston for from
south East the Mullins shout out to the Mullies. They're
freaking awesome. They coming by my house and stuff, checking

(02:04:58):
it out. My dog's about to get me some hoses
and stuff. He's we're getting like he's walking me through
if anything comes down. We got this, you know, like
it was pretty tight got And that's from Peter. And
then Peter also hooked me up with my boy Sal.
He's a cop like Santa Monic KAPEDI just retired though,

(02:05:18):
went to the retirement shout out to Sal. But like
he always has like first responder dudes. He's connected, freaking
Navy seals. He's just Peter Berger is cool. He's just cool, dude.
I went to We went to fight together. We went
to Luke Rock Quotes fight in Utah, in Utah. It's

(02:05:39):
all for full song connected. He's just a cool guy.

Speaker 4 (02:05:44):
So who do you think for the so Patrick Mahomes,
It's got to be Travis kelce Right, I bet you
trap's really good because if you don't go Travis Kelcey
and you lose, it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
Looks like play basketball and you know. And and he's
from Ohio. The Cincati Boys, I'm Sincati folk. They're all
fucking those Hile boys. They play a lot of that
beer ship beer pong. We used to play corn hole
and stuff. They're all good at that. So Patty and
and and Kelsey Eagles, Well we're Jalen. He throws a

(02:06:16):
good deep ball, so he probably throws a good ping. Jalen,
you gotta, you gotta go, Jalen.

Speaker 4 (02:06:21):
You got, Barkley, you got.

Speaker 2 (02:06:26):
I think I've actually played Yeah and Austin at Danny's
house once. How was he? It's pretty good?

Speaker 4 (02:06:35):
Pretty fucking good, or like the best guy on the Eagles.
This is the championship of beer pong here. You can't
be pretty good, hurts Cooper.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
De Jean Smith. Oh, we gotta get one of the
exciting whites. They gotta the Jean. He's pretty athletic. He
I saw him dunking up. That little boy could dunk.
He you know who's an Who's blanket ship? You got
fucking Kenny Pickett too. I feel like backup quarterback might

(02:07:06):
be really good at ping. And he's a Pittsburgh kid.
Fucking those Pittsburgh kids. Those those those dudes are all
fucking in those fucking like cold brick fucking houses. I've
been in them on like a hill playing hell of
beer pong. Yeah, that's like some straight Ohio because Ohio

(02:07:29):
is like super close to Pittsburgh, Kent, you know what
I mean. So you'd always have like the terrain is
very well Pittsburgh. You feel like you're going down into
like a mine. He's crazy. You come out with the
black I got the black lung pod semester. So who's
our Jalen and who? I don't think it's Jayalen?

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
And I think with this Eagles team, because they're lying
their identity, you gotta go with like one of those lines.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Blane Johnson, he's a quarterback. He was a quarterback in
high school. Lane Johnson's for sure in there. Yeah no,
And then I'm going Lane, and I'm going Big Dom,
Big Team, Big Dom and Lane. There's an intimidation factor
at Big Dom too, Dud, Big Dom, Big Dom plays
a beer pong dog.

Speaker 4 (02:08:16):
Will you tell us about your little Philly Day?

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
Philly Day was sick. So who's winning that match? Real quick?

Speaker 4 (02:08:22):
Lane Johnson and Big Don versus Mahomes and Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Yeah, I mean that was kind of obvious, right, Yeah,
Mahomes Kelsey had the Philliest day ever. Fucking crazy. Wake up,
we uh, we have to go do like a walk
through of the show at the stadium, get our beats,
kind of see the stadium, get a feel for the environment,

(02:08:46):
see the beautiful sets that the Fox crew put up
in uh Lincoln Financials. So you know, you gotta do
our walk through day go through the show after that,
had a lot of time, So go back to the crib.
Hit up my boy Dave, like, yo, I need a haircut, dude,
you got a guy out here, and so he's like, yeah,
I do. And I was like, yo, I need also

(02:09:07):
need to get a cheeseteak. Where should I go? He goes,
all right, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna
get We're gonna eat Angelo in South Philly with the
Cooper Sharp that cheese steak. All right, we're gonna get that.
We're gonna we're gonna pizza, and then we're gonna get
the haircut by uh Bryce Harper's barber above Angelo's while

(02:09:31):
eating with Big Dimond there. So I literally I'm like,
all right, let's go go down to South Philly. Walk
over there, get out, go upstairs. Place is packed. Cheeseteak
is phenomenal, the pizza spectacular. Getting I'm in the kitchen
of the condo above the restaurant getting faded up by

(02:09:53):
my guy. I gotta get his name. Forgot his name.
Bryce Harper's dude, though, so like, it's pretty Philly, you know,
he's he's a Philly guy, dave O. He's mister Philadelphia.
He's in there, brings in Big domb Big Dom, and
I just start chopping it up while I'm eating a
chili or a cheese steak getting the haircut. Big Dom like, Yo,

(02:10:15):
you need a ride, Get in the Big Dommobile. He's
got a blacked out escalade. Hell is sick going through
lights and stuff. I don't know if that's legal, but
he's got the he's got a fucking sound. Everyone's looking
at Big Dom driving down Philly like yo, Big Dom.
It was fucking insane. And then we're driving at Big

(02:10:35):
Domobile and you know in Rocky are in Creed where
you see all the dudes from the hood and the
dirt bikes and shit. I swear I saw like three
I saw three dudes wheeling down fucking Philly. Bro Philly
is hot Philly. It was it was. And then I
go back to my house and I'm like, I go

(02:10:56):
back to the hotel, which is spectacular, beautiful hotel that
four seasons in Philly. Very nice. Gronk has been talking
about it for fucking two weeks. It was nice. Get
back there, I go over my goddamn work, and I'm like,
all right, I gotta get over my work. I want
to go over my beats. This that h start thinking

(02:11:18):
about questions you're gonna ask, because I'd do an interview.
I was a little nervous whatever. So I go back
and then I'm like, all right, I got my ship.
I feel good, I'm confident, Get in bed, brush my teeth,
lie down, turn on the TV. Invincibles on, Invincibles on. Yeah,
I watched the whole goddamn movie. Vincebapali. I was walking

(02:11:40):
down the same goddamn area in South Philly earlier that day,
get the goddamn haircut at Angelo's Well, eating a cheese steak,
eating a slice, and then Rocky came on after I
fell asleep. I couldn't do it. It was such a
fucking Philly dad. It was so Philly.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
You said you saw Aj Brown too, Yeah, big.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
Dom, he fased on Aj Brown. Aj is a cool
kid man. I'm happy for him. He's a beast too,
and he'll be on the paths next year. Philly's very similar,
like is to Boston, just a little bit bigger. It's bigger.
It's like it's like if it's like if Boston and
New York had a kid that was bigger than the if.

Speaker 4 (02:12:25):
You did like New York's footprint, but Boston's kind of
level of urbanness.

Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
Yeah, you don't know, but I just felt like, you know,
you got the cobbles streets like South Philly, like a
lot of that feels like it almost felt like you
were in South Boston.

Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
Yeah, a little flatter in all the history too.

Speaker 2 (02:12:41):
Yeah. And then I went up into like Angelo's and
it felt like I was going up into like a
North End apartment, you know what I mean. Like it
felt very similar because I've been I used to go
to DEMONICAUS there's the deli and then you go above
my boys, you know, you go chill up there. It's
the same. It was like this. It was like that
same kind of vibe. I mean, I mean, they're both

(02:13:01):
East Coast beautiful, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:13:03):
With like heavy immigrant populast. Yeah, yeah, Irish, you know
what I.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
Love about Philadelphia?

Speaker 4 (02:13:09):
That Boston doesn't have is the consolidated sports arenas like
Wells Fargo is right next to Lincoln is right next
to Citizen Bank. They're all right there. They share a
parking lot. Like there's like a little bit of like
a sports connectivity with Boston. It's Foxboro, you got Jillett,
you got you know, the Garden is right in the city,
which is cool.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Fenways right in there. But it's nice to have it
all consolidated. That would be I mean, I think that's
what Craft wanted. Yeah, they're gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (02:13:33):
And what like South Boston with the Olympics, that whole
fucking thing that would.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
Have been sick if we were in the city. But
then when they figured like having one way into fox
Bowl one way out, when they figure traffic makes it awesome.
If they can.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
Figure out the Revolution Stadium to be like in Boston proper, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
That's that we're going to. They're building something over there.

Speaker 4 (02:13:51):
Like near the Encore or something. Last question, I.

Speaker 6 (02:13:56):
Want to answer this pretty simple question regarding Super well,
who wins.

Speaker 8 (02:14:02):
Do the Eagles win or do the Chiefs win?

Speaker 6 (02:14:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
I think the Chiefs are going to three peat. I
just that's where my gut tells me. I don't have
any fucking like, you know, like I'm not going to
Dane Orlowski like well this this, this, this, this, like
we all can do that. I don't know. I just think.

(02:14:27):
I think the Chiefs they just thrive. It's close, you
put your money on. Super's always got something fucking going on.
Been there what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (02:14:37):
They can just run it down their throat.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
I don't know, but control the game. I heard Tom
talking on Coward it was really really brought me back
to the those days. He said, you know, it's a
four hour game. A lot of times defenses just die
at the end, you know what I mean. So we'll see,
we'll see. It'll be a good one. It'll be a

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