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October 22, 2024 86 mins

This week on God's Country, Dan and Reid Isbell sit down with multi-platinum artist and avid outdoorsman Riley Green. Riley shares his inspiring journey from working as a construction worker to landing his first record deal, giving fans an inside look at his rise to stardom. The conversation kicks off with where they'd "Rather Be" than the studio, before touching on the excitement of the upcoming deer season. Riley reflects on how his faith in Jesus has shaped his career and life, and they dive into his latest album Don't Mind If I Do, which has impacted him in ways he never anticipated. Things heat up when the brothers debate who’s faster in a foot race, with Riley throwing in his pick and promising to return for the contest. Plus, listeners will be surprised to learn a little-known fact about Riley that even the hosts didn’t know!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
You're off in Guy's count you with Ree and Day.
It is also known as a Brother's Hunt.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
We take a week.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We drive to the intersection of the Country of music
and the great Aldol whispering, two things that go together
like Alabama, North Alabama and really good strong Southern names.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Or my little short legs and we need video of
proof of that. Brought to you by me either at
Our Heart podcast. It's a funny one. If you've ever
heard of Riley Green, he's funny guy, funny got funnier
than he looks.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Funny guy. That's kind of what I took away. Sean's
think Raleigh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
We had Rally Green on the podcast Tons of Stories,
A for real big deer hunter, a for real elk
conor like this guy. When he has days off, he
goes to the woods and and tries to get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
You can tell even by the way he talks.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Absolutely he is in the middle of his climb. It
feels like he's always been around and middle.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I think he's at That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The rocket ship is doing speak yeah, yeah, great new
record out. Don't mind if I do great songs all
over it.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Great writer, great solo. Yeah yeah, really good dude. A
lot of far hot, super super super vany he didn't
want Yeah, big biceps, forearms though, good buddy of ours.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
We had a lot of fun. It's kind of all
over the place, but I think you'll enjoy it. Thanks
for hanging out, Thanks for listening. Hey, I know we
always like we're like follow the followers, smash smash, but
for real, man, we're you know, we're blessed to to
be able to do a lot of cool things and
and and opportunities come our way where it's they're they're
kind of interesting to follow and and uh and we

(01:57):
would we would. We do appreciate your support. Ask you
to continue your support and follow us on Instagram, follow
us on Facebook, follow us on TikTok, subscribe to the
YouTube channel, do all those things. Man, we have a
lot of fun and and would love to bring you
along the journey.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And we're gonna be better at it.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, yeah, we're getting better oh the time.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Thanks for having out with us. Peace out, we'll go.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Disclaimer about today's episode. It's gonna be great. But I
think every I think every person in the chair that
is about you're about to hear on this podcast. In
the back of their mind are wishing they were sitting
in a deer stand right now instead of sitting in
a chair on music.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah for me, I'll go for sure, Yes, mate, I
love Riley.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
You're back there today, Bro, this is cool. How are
you doing all the way back? Too far back? I
think you're good, it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Going too far back? Are you telling me? I don't care,
I'm comfortable.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
You want you to go to the other room when
you talk further?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, probably be number one podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I thought I was just doing it with you and
he was like monitoring from over there.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh that's why you were so mad when you walked
in this morning.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, it's because I couldn't even get both brothers. It's
like a brother and a half right now.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm busy doing something else. You tell me, I'll do
whatever you wan to do.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
So he's in the podcast too. Yeah, he's actually closer
to me. Can we get him a microphone please? Hey?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Can we get a close up of Dan's.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I love this is a real professional type shift.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Dan's air Apostle jeans.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I've never been on a podcast. It's like established and
it's going on and They're like trying to figure out
how to do it while I'm here.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
This is everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
We're supposed to sit n you want to stand up.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Everybody says that.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Actually, yeah, Ki Moore was like, have y'all ever done
this before?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah? This is cool. I'll tell you what, man, I
didn't feel that way one day ago.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Better.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
But the cool weather yesterday and the day had me
getting a little bit rock. I can't. I don't get
you fired up till it gets cold. But this is
starting to get there now.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah, man, it was this morning was forty eight, No,
it's forty No, it's thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Last night forty one. When I woke up at six thirty.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It feels like deer season.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's nice to break a sweatshirt out. And I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
It was until I got it here the lights. Man,
I'm kind of wishing i'd gone t shirty.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, it's not too late, that's not it's never.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Too I feel like as as I like, we've got
kids and stuff now, like days in the woods are
not as much as they used to be. I look
forward to it because, like, bro, before I had kids
and it was just like I was single and didn't
have anything to do. Oden day, I was on the
deer stand.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
The next day. I was on the deer stand.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Every like every day of deer season. I could try
to be in What's U Home, I would try to
be in the deer stand. But now that I've got
kids and time is not what it used to be,
cold weather gets me way more jack now than it
used to.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I feel like of all the disclaimers, there was one
needed right there where you said, now that we all
have kids, I don't have anything, Well went home. No, No,
I know for a fact you don't have any.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, but you're super.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean this music is your kid pretty much. That's
that's that takes a lot of your time, most of
your time.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, we're I mean I certainly don't have the
time to hunt. I used to. It's it's macombers to
keep your stuff on the bus. And if I got
a couple of days slip off, you know, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
If you don't know who that is, Sorry, sorry, I'm
just kind of waking up those velvety vocals over there.
He's real mad that he's here. He found out he
was doing this like a week ago and hadn't been
looking forward to it, though I.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Actually didn't even know it was us. I've never had
somebody to go in and go pleasant surprise, he said,
this is my this is Mike side of face.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
It was so what I mean. Sometimes and y'all y'all
know this. Sometimes you go places that you don't really
want to go, you know, and sometimes you see people
you don't want to see.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I do know that, but.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I genuinely like both of y'am, I appreciate that. Yeah,
as much of a relationship as we can have with
as little as we see each other. Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So it's a once every four months and it's always
like always like, hey, it's a.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Very genuine conversation when we do see each.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Other, for sure, foundational conversation.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
And I will say that's not always the case, even
with hunting conversations, because I feel like everybody that I
see just goes, hey, man, you've been hunting. Yeah that's
all that's the common ground everybody finds, just for sure. Yeah, Yeah,
a lot a little.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
We've got multi platinum artist, a mustache rocking big deer, hunting,
former college quarterbacking Turkey colin Alabama.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Turkey car Okay, almost that one got a little closer
when I sat down.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
And most importantly my favorite part about you, Carl, the
Corky's dad. We've got Riley Green out in god to see.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Let me get y'all. I'm gonna get Carlos, you know,
like when you go into old diner, they got like
all the fans people that have been there and signed
a picture. I'm gonna get called put.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
A little sign pictures. I promise we will even right
here to my friends. Yeah, yeah, not you, just Carl.
Yeah yeah, just do like a little Paul print or something.
You know, However, I don't really want your autograph on
Carl's I've.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Actually seen that. We were like, you know, you play
a show and they got some guitars and stuff backstats
for you. Just sign something for Carl to sign.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right for real, you should have brought him as more.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Will they will they will they paw print it.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I sign that guitar already, Yes, probably it looks like
me you're right there, Yeah, probably that's the Yeah, that's
the first time we had that guitar was in Austin.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So you signed it, Yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So you just put Carl's name, you signed for Carl.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Ears, uh, we did our heart but we couldn't hear
each other. I don't even feel like that was really
even a conversation. No, it was like three minutes. Yeah
it was loud, man, it was loud loud. We're podcasting
now though. Yeah, this feels good. It would get what

(07:51):
you mad at over with. Oh yeah, we could do that.
We write little ditties for We write little ditties that
all sound the same.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
What is it enough? Well, what you're mad?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Just tell us what it is?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
What you're mad?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You in lost kids might be a boss man all
your neighbors cat just tell us what you mad.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
That was good.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
That was real good. That's what better one? You have
done that before? Oh no, actually I just wrote that
on the way in. That was good.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
A little snotty too from Snage Beach. Got the beach
gets you in the fall, little little something.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Uh, well, I usually don't go to the beach in
the fall. Usually busy.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah. We we just both rolled down to uh Seagrove
for a few for we kind of worked out.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
We were in Santa Rosa for a week and then
Luke was doing his bootlegger bomfire thing and we went
over there and they had some songwriter stuff that we
played over there, And yeah, I don't know what's going around,
but my whole family's got it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Mine did.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Thanks for having me here with yas.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Got stressed.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I just kissed you right on the mouth. I thought
you were going to stressed.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Uh, I get I get a little of that. If
I go to a different climate, doesn't really matter what
it is. Yeah, I got some kind of liah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I don't even really feel sick. It's just kind of a
little well.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And it dropped forty degrees outside. Praise Jesus so. But
I'm I'm I'll get sick if the weather does this, Dude,
I'll get sick if the weather does this in October
bringing on.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm good with it, though, I'd I'd rather sit in
the deer stand with a cold and it'd be cold.
What you what you're mad at? You hank to me
this morning, dude? You know, and here's my tough here's
my thing with honking like traffic is is?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I would say it's so mad ad out there, I
would a.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mad Seventy five percent of what you're mad at is
about traffic.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
For me. Yeah, I guess it is. I'm always mad
at something, either master meados or people that honk me.
So at the I got a audio off of sixty
five and bro, I mean the light. I don't even
know if if the bulb had fully turned green yet
from red. I think he was still in the illumination phase.

(09:57):
And this guy and it wasn't you know when you
like it was?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's take that. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I'm like, oh man, I'll even wave good. I'm bad dude.
I wanted to pay attention, but this guy was was
mad and you know what, you know what made me
do sit there longer?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I like that? That's uh. I like I get petty
in traffic me too, you know, if I think about it,
I don't know that there's a trip I've driven anywhere
over about five minutes that I haven't cussed somebody in
my car, you know what I mean? Like just somebody
does something all the time. Here's a problem all the time.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I did it this morning too. All the time.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm not even mad.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think I'm a really good driver. Uh maybe everybody
feels that way. I don't know, but I'm a very
considerate driver. Like I'm thinking about You're never going to
get me in the left lane going to show. If
I pass somebody, I get over it. You know. Now
I might pass somebody going a little fast.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Do you think you're a good driver, Yeah, I think
i'm every And it's the same thing I think. I
think like if you have a kid, you always think
your kids the prettiest, right, like the kiddest kid of
all time. Uh, nobody thinks I'm a good driver.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Nobody. I think you're the worst drive I think.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, well that's good to know.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, here's the thing with reed. So, for example, is.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
A distracted driver, Yes, okay, but I'm a controlled distracted driver.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
You know you know what that means. Dude, Quit trying
to make it. Bro, I've had like what two recks
of my life. Yeah, but you almost sent her mass.
All right. So he shoots a good deer. This is
probably ten years ago. He shoots a good deer. Super
if anything, this one, if anything gets like in in
his brain.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, he can't.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
He can't multitest. So like this morning, he had shot
a good deer and it has to do a deer hunt.
And we were jacked on the way home. You know,
we're like man shot a big deer to the back
of drug. We're like, dude, I can't believe he's blah
blah blah. And I look up and we're headed right
at you remember those old school bridges that had the
like concrete pillars, Yeah, were about to center masks. And

(12:01):
I'm looking to read it. He's just like he's thinking
about and I'm like, it's kind of like that read
on one that guy goes, Man, I just had the
crazy yeah, he goes, I just had the craziest stream
of the guy because you aren't driving right, it's the
same thing. It's like he's just easily distracted. And I've
got to be honest. I mean we're both looking in

(12:22):
every field we go pack.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, your season driving is a little different, no doubt.
Turkey season driving, Turkey season drivings. You got over on
the shoulder a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, I'm very thankful for those things because those those
those save my life.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Those wake up strips, rumble strip, rumble strip, watch about it.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Uh, just don't say politics, No I don't. I don't
keep up with enough to you can.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Let's go viral.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, Uh is that how you do that?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's how you fake them into it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Uh, if you don't want to go virus, you've got
a better guest. I've done it later in the day.
That makes worse, that makes more bad music. Then yeah,
I'll try.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Bad music seems to go viral these days.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's definitely helps. It's out there. Yeah, I've heard some
of it.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You know which ones let's go viral?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, when I do hear a really bad song, win,
it makes me not want to write, to write a
good song. Why are we trying to write songs any
type of meaning at all?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Ye come because because of people like you, like honestly,
like because of people like homes like where like like
artists that actually have a platform to sing good songs
and want to sing good songs.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Okay, something says already, you don't.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Can I just be trafficked to I'm traffic.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Room for strictly entertainers as well. I'll be happy to
take something for sure. No, I want every one of them.
I wish every every one of them was mine. But
but yeah, I'm the same way, bro. When I hear like,
when I hear a bad song, I'm like, what am
I doing?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Man?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
What are we doing here? You know? There was a
guy I had, a guy that wrote for me for
a while and he was like, this is not very
good and I was like, bro, it doesn't matter. It
does not matter.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And people used to.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Tell me that as an early songwriter, like turn them
all in, write them on. I'm like, oh, man, I
want to write like the good stuff, you know. And
then when I started realizing on the radio, like there's
bad songs going everyone, oh, probably more than great songs
going more.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I think it's probably a problem that causes itself
to grow because you got let's say, a talented writer, artist,
whatever it is, and they come intown and they write
a bad song and they have success with it, and
that's the bad songs for me. And I've got a
lot of songs that I don't necessarily think are great songs,

(14:39):
but they are still around that I wrote. You know,
before I came to town, I wrote everything by myself.
And I had some songs like Georgia Time or Barry
Me and Dixie that did really well for me, and
I don't really know why, but I didn't write them
for any radio success. Never thought i'd have a record
deal or anything. So like it causes me to go
back and some whatever it was that I did. Try

(15:01):
to do that more often. And I'm not doing anything
that's related to a chart. You know. They granted we
all want number one songs. Is songwriters, that's where we
make money, but it's uh, I really look at it
as two completely different things. Like a song that gets
played on the radio, it's a certain type song. First off,
ballads don't get played disease. You know, you don't hear
as many ballads on the radio, so I forget them up,

(15:22):
you know, And and the really meaningful songs, like there's
not near as many of those on the radio as
there is songs that are just easy listening, roll the
window down, you know, turn it up kind of stuff.
So I try to write some of both.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
You know. I think you do that well. Actually, I
think you balance that well because I think about like
Grandpa's you know what I mean, like, and I think
something for some reason that one's stalled out or yeah,
and that was that song is massive, Yeah, I know,
but I'm saying like it's killer song for sure, but
it's also a massive presence, dude, Like because I was

(15:54):
at Loot. You were at with Loot last year and
I watched the show a thousand times, and uh, man,
that song I'm talking about like at and T Stadium
meet seventy five thousand everything I heard of that absolutely.
I mean, that's that's something to hang your hat on.
And you can't even And I guess what I'm adding

(16:15):
to your point is that doesn't even really So it
peaked at eleven. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean the first time you played that at the Opry,
that was like a super huge moment.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Did you write that by yourself?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Where'd that come from? Where'd that coming from?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I mean, obviously I was close to both my green days,
but my green day Lenden passed away and I was
in I was in Vegas for a show or something,
and how were you. This was in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh so relatively recently.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, And uh, I got on a plane fly out
to Nashville to drive to Alabama to the funeral, and
I I wrote that title down, and I remember, like
I had no idea how I wanted to write it,
you know, but I just like thought, there's something in that,
and so.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
The thought enters your brain. Yeah, alwis Grandpa's never done.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well, I'll tell you exactly what I thought. So you
remember the song Merle Haggard or the Good Times really Over?
Oh yeah, you know, talking about you know, buck was
still silver or you know, before microwave ovens. And I
thought that's such a cool thing, Like Green Daddy loved
Merle Haggard, talk about things that you wish you could
change about the world. Like if I had a conversation
with my Green Daddy's that day, what would I say
now that I've traveled, I've never formed before I signed

(17:17):
a record deal, so all these things I'm seeing out
in the world, like what would I say I would
change about it? You know, and kind of what would
they think? And uh, you know that's where the which
country music still got played on the country radio line
came from that thought.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm sure radio loved that line.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
They loved it. And then the other the song that
kind of influenced it was Big Rock Candy Mountain, remember
that old brother Arthur. That was the same kind of premise,
but it was all things that were fictional, like you know,
jails are made of ten you could walk right out
and all that stuff. I thought it'd be cool to
take that idea of like things you were change and
making fictional things like coolers never ran out of beer,

(17:50):
things that actually couldn't happen. And then, you know, I
didn't want it to just be a song about my
granddaddy's I loved how the first time you hear that
is in the hook, it kind of gives you a
little punch, you know, or did it from me? For sure?
So you know I wrote it. I had a different
single at country radio, wasn't on my album. Uh. I
played it in making and got a little bit drunk,

(18:12):
came back out, did an encore, and I played it
and somebody videoed it lost got a couple of million views.
I played at the West Virginia State Fair two weeks
later and they sang every word to it from a
video and so it was on YouTube. Yeah, it when recorded.
I never posted about it or anything. It was wild.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
So I feel like that's what great songs do that.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right now, they catch fire, like they find their way
to the tip, they rise at the top and the
and they catch fire in their own well they can.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I don't think they always do, but they agree. And
I feel like the delivery has a lot to do
with it. I feel like the soul behind that kind
of a song has a lot to do with it.
Like I feel like if that was a cover for somebody,
it may not hit the way it hit with you
sing it.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, there's a there's a little bit of a lot
of those those songs that that I written by myself
for some reason have that. But I think it's the
authentic sounds. I'm giving myself too much credit, But it's
because when I'm writing from only my perspective, I can't, you.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Know, get outside.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I can't faint not whether it's something really happened to
me or something that I came up with. It's still
something crossed my mind totally, you know. So it was
influenced from somewhere, but uh, yeah, I don't. I don't
know that I thought that song was a hit in
any way. I just knew that it made me feel
something when I heard it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's great. Do you what do you when you think
about your granddad's did you did you do any hunting
with them or did were they influential on any of that?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah? It was. It was very different. My grand dad,
Lynden was like we He got up every morning, went
to the store and drank coffee, and he decided if
he was going golfing or fishing that day. He used
to burn home when I was really little, but I
wasn't big enough to go with him.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Then where'd you grow up?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
In Northeast Alabama? Jacksonville, Okay? Uh? And my whole family
like so give perspective both sets of my grandparents. So
I grew up in the same town, like all four
of them knew. I grew up around each other. So
like my whole family, it's from out there in the
same area school. So I had a great grandmother in
my life until she was ninety eight, you know, like

(20:11):
I was around a lot of families, saw my grandparents
every day that my grand dad, Bufford was the music guy.
He's the one that started the Golden sal Music Hall
out there and all that sound.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
The Way's a great name. That's great. That's a great name,
great southern just name.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
You know what I struggled to picture because you know,
I don't know if y'all know this's not but you
named somebody when they're a baby.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
And think about naming a baby Buford totally a little
infant child, and go, that's Buford right there. I can't.
I mean, like you had to be at least forty
something to be named Bufford can be honest.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's true, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like totally,
could you call could you?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Could you look at a little baby and call him Bill?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
No?

Speaker 3 (20:55):
You know what I mean. That's tough on me, Bob No,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, William Yeah, Yeah, we went kind of, I would say,
off the normal path of names for our kids. Let's
so my my, well, my little girl's name is Liza Jane.
It's just it's just so happened that my grandm my
wife had a grandmother named Liza and school named Jane,

(21:19):
so that worked out perfect.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
But he named her after the Viskio song, of course,
found out that he was.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
And then my my, my middle child, his name is
Daniel Boone is we call like that Boon? And then
my from my walk Texas, right, So we tried to
I tried to think of the that was the chair
just sounded good, though it sounds like Apostle.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Kind of operation run Us on the Prank Show three
months old.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is uh. I tried to think of the most Southern
name I could possibly think of for him, and so
we named him Buck. Douane is so b d Buck Dane,
my d my dad.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
My dad's name is Duane, not Dwyane. Not not Randall Dwayne.
It's Randy Randall Dowane.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Is you spell it d u A? Okay? So I
don't know if you all around this ornight. But I
went to church with the guy and did some work
on his house and they called him d Wayne and
they said, like, that's his name, it's spelled wayne.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Oh no it was. Then see I'm I'm I'm real
sensitive to that because I want people to call him
do a Yeah, yeah, not Dwyane. Yeah, which fine, whatever,
they're gonna call him buck anyway.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
My little girl's name is Griffin, Audrey Griffin. Jordan's grandmother
was named Audrey Audrey Griffin is. And then my little
boy took my first name, Benjamin, and then, uh, his
middle name is Oak and that's what he goes by.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oak. I guess we kind of went not, I mean, Riley,
that's pretty.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
My my grave.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
What's your full name?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Am I supposed to say on my full namee? I
hope it's jehosephat well, yeah, what do you think? Raleigh
Jehosaph fat Green is my middle name of Michael Riley Greaves.
I don't like that, Kyle Riley Greaves, Trevor Rolly Green.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
This will be fun.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
How do you get William Riley Green? It sounds like
William Michael Morgan, William Michael.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm just kidding. It's Jonathan Okay, mister soft Jay. It's
like Jonathan shut. No'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
They called.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I like that now. My great Green daddy, Paul, who
I don't remember. He died when I was really young.
But there their house is the one the music halls in.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
He wait, I didn't know that the music halls in
their house.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
See my great grandparents house.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Uh. He started getting a little dementia and he started
calling my dad when he was little Riley. My dad's
name is Key. Even nobody has nobody. There's nobody in
my family name Rally. Where that came from, I don't know,
but that's where I got my name.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's really good story.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's really cool. Yeah, that's cool. Tell us tell us
a little bit about music hall. I want to know
about the what you got going?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
So it was my great grandparents' house, Me and my
gun daddy Buf you just go sit on the porch,
and he had an old F one guitar. Uh. I
wrote a song about him that I played at his funeral,
and there was a line in it that said he
never could itself, but he taught me how to play
and uh, And somebody asked me about that line later,
and I don't remember putting that mistaught into it when
I wrote it, but it was really liked it, Like

(24:46):
he didn't play, but he just liked it so much.
We'd sit around and like listen to songs, and we
kind of learned how to play together. We could play like,
you know, little old Roy Cuff songs and Hay william songs.
And he started getting the Yellow Pages and calling up
all these guys around that he knew who played the
banjo or the field or whatever. They started showing up.
And so we started doing that every week, meeting up playing.
People started to come watch. We were just sitting on

(25:06):
the Port's house. The floor was kind of falling in
and we have a sawmill back behind there. So we
went and saw some lumber tore the floor up, made
a little stage inside of there, put a little window
unit air conditioner. Oh yeah, and he painted a saw
blade gold and those big saw blades and hunt it
called it the Golden Saw Music Hall started going on
and kept growing, and at one point there was a
couple hundred older people out there. Every Friday went on

(25:29):
for thirteen years. Old Ladi would make snacks and I
just sat out there with them. Turned out to play
so cool, and I got I never thought I was
a good singer. I still don't like hearing my voice.
I'm sure it's probably a normal thing, I guess. But
I got a lot of confidence from getting up there
with them, because sure, and everybody cheered when the little
kid got up there and sang some old Merle Haggart's
song or something, you know. So that was kind of

(25:50):
where I started playing in front of people.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
So you cut your teeth in that and your grandaddies.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, I mean I learned how to play by watching them.
How they made cords, and it's watching their hands. While
I was sitting up there and everybody played two songs.
It was a break, they had snacks. They came back
and played one song. The old lady said, well, the
old ladies made like you know, permina cheese sandwiches and whatever.
Whatever old ladies make you.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Snacks are great and uh, music kill time for snacks.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
And well it was literally like we're gonna take a
everybody go to the bathroom, natural coffee.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, Mildred made chocolate cookies in the corner.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Make sure you get some of those.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah. And I, you know, honestly, I took it for
granted because I felt like it's like everybody did that,
you know. So then I would bring like my buddies
or people out there to see it. They're be like,
this is awesome. You know, it's look insane. It's all
these old So some people were really good and some
people were really bad. But anybody could sing it want to.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh I got you, I got you, so anybody could say.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So everybody that was gonna play sat on stage at
the same time, sent a bunch of chairs sitting and
they all played with each other, ladies and gentlemen. Rable
macilroy he was gonna play the Hamemarker. He got up
horseshoe champion too, like.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Roy McElroy a little bit, but he was a harmonica guy.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
And uh, they get up there and play two songs
and sit back down. Somebody else will get up. You know, Yeah,
that's fun.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
So in hindsight, you started having some buddies down to
play it and kind.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Of well when when COVID hit, it had kind of
like my grandade passed away. The guy that didn't seed it.
His name was Dewey Huddleson, he passed away. Yeah, got
a lot of good names. Let me tell you something
else too. Let's just beer off for a second.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is what we're still on. What you're mad at.
I think we're I think distracted about now.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
This is this is not what you're matter is. We
don't have nicknames. So my dad's generation, they all have.
My dad's nickname was Bo. His brother's name was t Rod.
There's Fish, Wendell, Fuzz, all these buffy they all got nicknames.
I don't have a nickname. I'm so lame that, like,
where did that go away? At?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You do now? Yanni?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah? Yan, I think I was.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
And then I tell you because I'm always tired, I
would say I'm probably the best I know it given nicknames.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
But it has to has to be give yourself that compliment.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Every nickname I've ever given, that stuff, every nickname I've
ever given, Well.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
I guess that's probably I guess what. I guess. The
way to figure out what my nickname is just what
do you call me when I'm not around? Yeah? H
when you are just really running me down. Vainy guy.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
We don't don't call him beanie.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
That's gonna stick.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Big big arms, big big arm guy, I like big
vein dude. I don't know about that kidding jokes. One
of those words like well okay, like okay, give all
three of us every.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Time words no, this is true, this is true, and they're.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Like, he's like he's got a lot of girth.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
There's like half girth guy girth Brooks, Garth Brooks.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
When somebody said, but you can't do that, Yeah, that's
I'm just saying. He asked, what do y'all talk when
y'all talk about me?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
What you Joe? I was hoping you didn't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm just trying to think if someone asked me, no,
we're buddies, so it's different. But if like I just
say my wife or something, it's like I like it.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
He'd likes to pretend like because we're buddies, he wouldn't
back run off.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I will I do talk about it, but it's never
like negative. Somebody's like, well, how's Riley on tour? I'm like, hot, sweaty,
big vany awesome hot guy. Yeah that's what.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's fun. Okay, I wonder what people say, Hey, what
did we? Because I forgot about the tour? Got me
curious what did we? What did? I used to say
we always talked about something whenever we pass each other.
I guess why I come up with Luke. Yeah, well
we always had like a little interaction. I can't what
it was about. It.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, it was always like when choys respectful hopefully.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I just feel like we had a little thing. It was.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
That's cute.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was every time Riley would come out, they would
do this brooks.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And the sleeves on my shirt would get shorter every time.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And he would always have a cigar and he would
always be like a little late on care with it
like that. So everybody would come out and then he
can kind of trounce and he would look he would
be looking directly at me because I'm on the you know,
stage right up there the front. He would come out
stage left. So every time I come out, like I
go like this like and he would go.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Every time we're all my time now. Yeah, and then
and then my favorite part was after I got down
and I was leaving, he would come sprinting past me
to go get whatever. He's so fast.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
See this faster than people think.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh this guy, I mean into it. People don't. I
don't think you're that fast. But I'm like, you're faster
than that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Just like people think you're that's not funny, that you're
not funny.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You're really kind of a goofball funny you. Yeah, oh
you're funny guy, but you're a serious hot guy where
you have to be Dan sit down.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Hey, man, let's let's change it up from the vainy
thing to just want People are like, hey, what's Riley like? Funny? Dude? Okay, funny,
I'm virgin, hilarious. I'm laughing inside just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Loft something funny.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Hey, just when you're laying bad with your wife, you're
just like laughing, Like, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Says obliviously funny?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Riley says the darnedest things, undodgably funny. Yeah, yeah, just
genuinely just a funny guy.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No dance.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Dan six four sitting down, he's five ten. When he's legs.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I cannot wait. I was the podcast with the boys.
It was good, damn.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Fast, fast fast.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Okay, last guy, you see him. We're racing the park
A lot after the podcast smoked me. It's unreal.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Hey, I will say about about showing like doing this
thing we were. I saw Riley at the Blue Water
golf Urn the other day. I was sub five forty
in high school for the wreck.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
I don't listen. I know it's harder to tell me
I'm fast. I'm talking about I know you're fast, big guy.
I've never mested somebody that we've agreed with more that
feels like he's gotta wait. Feel was like it's a
little sarcastic. That's what I'm saying. I know it's hard
to tell.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, you ain't winning a race in the parking life,
but either of us.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'm not beating that guy. But everybody else in here
I got a shot at. No, we're not gonna describe
that guy. He just looks fast. I know that guy's fast.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
He looks he looks fast.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I know he's fast, and I know you could jump.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
She ran here from Alabama.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, Uh, everybody else, I think I gotta wait.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That was fun. You think you can beat him in
a race?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
What dude, see I stay out completely.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
How long is the distance? How long is the distance?
I would just say probably forty Yeah, we have to
do that.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's gonna be tight. I'm saying, no, it's not sixty.
You probably got Well.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Let me ask you this. Do you think you're gonna
get a start on him and then you have to
hold him off? Or is he gonna and then you're
gonna grow start on him.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I get a start and then have to hold him
off hopeful in the world.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Bro, I'll be honest with you. I'm not great at
the Internet, but I feel like the viral moment you're
looking for is in our hands.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I'll take my shoes off and let you wear your
short and beat you at a race and thirty a
forty yards start on a fifty yard race. She looks
she is fast.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
She is.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So that's see, that's where the ses down. When you
were really I think you were just saying I don't
look fast. I did not say that because you said
she looks fast, as if to say you don't look
You don't.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
What I said, apostle g What I said is you're
faster than you look in the same sense of where
somebody might think I'm not funny because I look serious.
Maybe Yeah, you know you don't look built for speed?
Does that make that is not agreed? Josh? You think
you think he looks fast when you look at you
think speed.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Don't lie, Josh, dude, don't lie, Josh, I said I
wouldn't beat you.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I know it's you don't mess up, dude.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
But because I conversation, you could tell your athlete ikne
you were faster than you look.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
It goes back to our conversation. Would you rather look
fast and not be fast or not look.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
When you look fast and you were slow?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Okay, then you're just living on perception.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
You're just living on That's actually what I'm doing, me
to my entire life doing that same and anything I.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Got here, Okay, you're funny the same.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
How do you think we got here faking?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
You're funny, dude? You're fun of your fast?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
What am I? Uh, it's gotta be something he doesn't
look you know what I mean? You're that's just do
a what are you good at everything? Segment? No, I
mean this is your not what you're mad at?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
This This is basketball are going to ustash. I'm not
really great at growing a beard.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey man, what were you gonna say about the golf
traumer the other day? What I saw?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I saw Riley? This is this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I had a feeling that was gonna be getting excited
about it. No, no, not.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
The story is I'm just saying this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Uh no, you said that you would do this when
you walked out we were playing at golfer.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Then I saw Riley. You wouldn't even really pointed.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
He kind of just go like, yeah, it was very
I saw Riley on another T box, which was and
he looked at me and he nodded out like this,
And then I was like, probably not the guy to
not the guy to throw up unless it's just like
a little musk. I was like this and then he
was it was like a yours or nice.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
It was like my dad used to do that all
the time when I was little, Like we ride around
in town and if he passing somebody knew he stick
his arm out the window. Like that was like the thing.
Nicknames and showing your muscle is what I missed from
that generation.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Huh, nicknames?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Everybody arm wrestled too. He is awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm real bad at our wrestling. I will say that
because I had no forearms. You gotta feel like you
gotta have four.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
That's all it is.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
My fore arms are bigger than my biceps. Yeah, probably
bigger than my legs. It's a good look.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I remember, Yeah, you built right, I remember worked construction
for a while. That you gotta have strong form. That's
gotta do something for that.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
In steroids, they played the guitar no doubt.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
No doubt, this thing.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
This is huge.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
And then four arms. Yeah, he always says on if
we die in the woods, eat that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Gonna eat this first as a chicken wings like just
like the perfect little chicks, like a little KFC.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Fry that baby up from Anyway, what we're talking about?
Golf tournament? You already said it. Yeah, it just looks
like I can hit a golf ball far. No, that's
a good one. Okay, that's a good one. It doesn't
you don't I wouldn't think Okay, I would think he
could probably play golf, but I wouldn't think you could
hit it as far as you do.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Okay, that's yeah, that's a gat that's a that's a
good way to be able to surprise people to you know,
the thing is, what if you look like you could
hit a long way?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
You look like you could hit a long ways, do you?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah? But I'm annoying the good at a lot of stuff,
are what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, I remember what I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's good you don't have that problem.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, but that's the good thing is that you don't.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You don't look Look you're on the verge saying you
don't look you're good at anything, and you're not.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
So you are just who you are, who you are.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Just running the the fifteenth best podcast in the city.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
God, I mean, do I look like I've hit written
number one hits?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah? That was killed maybe a deer over to him.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You're wearing a Rolex, so yeah, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Do I look like I might have killed it? This deer?
Free range short? You know what I'm saying, knowing you
as a hunter, I would say you look like a guy.
That's because I've done both of those things. So now
I got to hit a whole one.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
It's tough to do, tough to do all these things I'm.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Not committed to it.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, you're all right.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I like golf exactly for what it's for for me,
Like it's social. So what are you shooting eighteen normally? Well,
I don't know, probably ten, I guess.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
No, that's that's better than most folks.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Well yeah, I mean, like I've always struck the ball well,
like so I could not play and go play like decent.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know, you're an athlete.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
But when I started playing, because I got into it
for a while I was touring, it's great, you know,
having road for sure, George old Hickory. I start playing
out there all the time and playing myself, I got
a lot better. Yeah, you know, but I best ever
shot was seventy six, and that was out there, which
that's not a real tough course, that's that's a good question.
But so I shot seventy six, I broke eighty about

(38:12):
three out of five or six times I would play,
and then I took about a month off and I
was back shooting. Yeah yeah, high eighties. Yeah, yeah, I
gotta stay on it for sure.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Uh let's talk deer hunting, little im go off, what
do you uh, what are you doing this fall?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Or you you you going.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I know you're going places.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, I bought. Ah, I've been hunting. Uh wait do
we if people don't need to know, we can just
block it out or something. Okay, yes, fine, I'll just
tell you whatever. Yeah. No, I bought. I bought a
farm in Kansas, uh last year. But I've been going
up there to this spot for several years. A buddy
mine has got a lot of property up there, and
so I'm kind of excited about that. Like I enjoyed hunting,

(38:51):
but probably more than any of it now, I like
going to set up the place. So like, I killed
a big deer up there last year the year before,
and the property that I bought connects to some of
my buddy's property, and I saw one of the biggest
you've ever seen come off of that after I'd killed
my dear.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So I'm still hunting. After you tagged out, how'd you
see this deer?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I was driving like I was. I had a deer
in the back of the side. Waside driving you back
to the house? Like what? And across the road in front?
He took a picture of it same day. Yeah, And
the only reason I saw it for sale sign that
was like growing up around it was because I stopped
and was looking at this deer. So I bought this
eighty acre parcel.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
And I think you're close. I think your spot is
close to where where we hunt. Really yeah, like real close.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I don't know. If you heard Dan killed a two
ten out there, a couple.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Of couple, I might have send him a pictures. I
think he did my dog du I got. We say
that all the time. If you killed me deer picture,
never do and I send you ever picture deer I kill.
It's fine, we do. Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's where our relationship is.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Maybe maybe my deer picture sending is more of a
competitive thing. And since you really killed big deers, like
you know, I don't want to get into that with you.
Like Singleton and Randy, I send them pictures of all
the time.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Because I smoked him.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
And my favorite thing is Randy killing. I know. I
love a Randy sending a picture of Due. I see
him like seven, I mean not even from this year,
like just a year's past, you know, like that's good,
or like the same year with different outfits on like
stages like a sitting up different ways. But yeah, I'm
gonna go to Kansas, so I'm excited about going, like

(40:26):
getting on that place and like seeing how you know,
I enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
That a lot. How much time will you spend out there?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Uh, we're stupid busy this year, I got to go
to Australia at the end of the month, and I think,
get back to the first week in November. I feel
like you're in your like.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Like mega climb time. I mean you look, you've always
been great. Honestly, I'm I'm not I'm always enjoyed you
in Georgia music. I've never understood why you haven't blown up.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Five and I haven't been on this podcast yet.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
But I'm bus it's happening right next level here. It
was tough, it's happening right now.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Well, did not tell me what it looks like.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I think we actually had to cancel on you because
we went to campus.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Actually told me we were going to breakfast. Surprised.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, well we got coffee. It's constant.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah, thanks for that, but but you can keep that
cup over. I'm happy, it'd be great.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm happy to see it happening, man, Like it's it
finds the rest of the world figured it out, and
so I imagine you really are stupid busy right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, I would say I've been busy for the last
about six years. But it's been like the grinding opportunities there,
you know. I mean I always tell people too, I
can't complain because I kind of do it to myself. Yeah,
you know, there's somebody that makes my schedule that I
have to go do anything. I mean I have to
say yes to everything, you know. Sure, some stuff they
don't ask me about the podcast, Yeah, but uh, there's

(41:50):
just so much opportunity in what we're doing right now,
and it's growing. And while it's growing, I'm so motivated
to go. I mean, I'm having the kids. Now is
the time to really go do it? So, yeah, I
look forward to win it. There's a little bit of
this sure, you know. I always say I think I
would really enjoy like sixty or seventy shows a year. Yeah,
if I could do that, I think I would really
enjoy playing. You know, now, it's just so much.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
What are you playing right now?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Probably not one hundred and fifty? What do you think
I remember the last time I really had account was
one twenty six.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
That's a little that's grinding right there.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
What's the most you've ever done anything.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I don't know. I'd be scared to say. I mean,
that's not days on the road, you know, that's the
whole thing too.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Shows, that's one show.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, And you know what happens is when you put
that many shows, you're not in town often. So when
you are, you're just stacked. When you're in town, you
got to get all this stuff. I mean, you still
got to go record, you got to do press, you
got to do you know, uh, these hunting podcasts whatever
you want to call them.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
You know, I mean, I'm having fun.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I'm looking forward to this. This is I've been looking
forward this for a while. Well, yeah, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I mean, that's how they got me on the Luke,
That's how they get you. They were like, oh, it's
only forty gigs, and I'm like, oh, forty days, just
swing that. But then when you leave on Tuesday and
your flight gets canceled on Sunday and you don't pop
back until Monday morning, and then you fly back out
on Wednesday at lunch.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, I was you ain't even got time to mow
your young I know you're a you're a busy guy
and got a lot of energy and would probably get
a little bit stir crazy if you didn't have something
to go do you know. So I knew you would
like that to a certain thing, but I really wondered
when you went out with Luke. I was like, cause
that's I mean, I know I would love to try

(43:37):
to get bored at the house. I mean I've been
for I mean over ten years. I've been playing hard
shows a year, you know, so like, uh, and you
know how we are as like if I've got time
to go hunt when that parson, I'm going every day
every day, you know, which, Yeah, people say that's not work,
but it's not a break, especially when you have to
travel like that to go around going all over the place.

(43:58):
For sure, it's a it's I look forward to to
the day of being able to spend a week somewhere.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's nice and and I'll tell you what so nice
that it's and so addicting that it really doesn't matter
how much money you wouldn't have made going to it's
still not worth the being gone.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
There was a lot about Kobe. It was really tough,
But as far as the time I headed home.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
You ain't telling us nothing because it was Turkey season
when it started sun and we were in the woods
every day.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
It was my best honting season ever.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
The same.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
This year I got didn't shoot some big deal because like,
I know what you're doing. I just sat out here.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
One.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah, it's uh, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
And and and Luke being our best buddy, I mean,
he struggles with it.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Two.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You know, it's just the it's the it's the grind
man of And then you know, now he's got young kids,
and there's that pull, and there's and once you've kind
of you know, done the thing, it's like, man, how
much more of this do I really really want to do?
But I don't think people understand I say all the time.
I personally don't think y'all get paid enough.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I mean, and I know you do, you do well.
I definitly don't get paid enough for this. But for
the before the time.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Almost said same, but before the time that you're gone man,
and the time you know, everybody now to us it's like, oh, hits,
you got hit songs. Now I'm like, yeah, But there
was fifteen years back there where I got canceled on
four times a week and we lived on a boat,
like and my son roof was leaking, and nobody wanted

(45:36):
to do have anything to do with anything I was
doing or believed in anything. And when you spread what
you've done with a hit or two over those fifteen years,
it really ain't as much as you think.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
The only thing I've noticed with my career getting to
the places at now is there's an anxiety a little
bit that I never had before. Huh, that I never
had any visions of, like major success, like signing record deal.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
You never did.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I never know, and I know those people that are
like a dreamed that are always going to do. I
played three sports in school, play a little fooball in college.
I assumed I was gonna play a couple of shows
on the weekend for one hundred and fifty dollars a
night and build houses the rest of my life. That's
just what I thought I was gonna do. I didn't
write songs because I thought I was good a writing songs.
I got tired of playing the same covers all the time,
so I tried to write some stuff to I thought
people think it was funny or whatever. You and I

(46:23):
had no visions of it going anywhere, so there was
no pressure in it. But now, my pressure comes from
I know the opportunity I have something that a lot
of people you know, would kill for. It makes sense,
And my stress, I guess, comes from like I want
to try to get as much out of as I can.
If I write a song that does really well, it's
almost like I really just feel more movid to write

(46:44):
another better song. I write something like that and something
about songwriting, and I'm sure y'all deal with this too.
Is like in my mind as a kid, I think,
you know, you always hear one hit wonder like you
think about somebody writing a big, giant hit song. It's
almost like there's a lot of luck involved in that.
It a little bit there is, you know. But for
me it's when I started thinking about songwriting is something
you can get better at, and you can. You know,

(47:07):
if you write thirty songs, you got a better chance
of writing a good one. You know, if you write
fifty you got a better chance than that. Whatever. So
then it's like it never ends, you know. And me
writing so much of my own stuff, it's like I
constantly feel like if I have a second, I need
to be writing songs because right now people are listening
and there was a time when they weren't the time
when I could have wrote I was Gampost never died,
nobody would ever heard of it, you know. So it's

(47:28):
a it's a weird thing to feel stressed, even more
as it grows, but it's a it's it's a good problem. Now.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
So what's your what's your process? When you like? I
think that's your sneaky thing. I think he's a better
songwriter than he looks like.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Well, I think people are gonna they're figuring it out
now because some of these tunes, he looks.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Like he would just be like a singer, hot guy,
but he's actually a really great songwriter. No, I mean,
I know, I know, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
You surprised. That's fun. It looks like you just be
a hot guy.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
But yeah, but it's like I don't look fast right, Yeah,
I mean believe I thought we had something.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, I mean talking about this, talking about this new
record like that. Don't mind if I do, which is
that by yourself?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
That song is massive, possibly one of my favorite songs
on the record.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Man, I love that thing.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
So what it like?

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Do you write my favorites rather? But yeah, I know
it's a good song. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Do you do you get an idea and it burns
in you till you write it? Or do you do
you set time aside? Do you write the deer stand?
Do you write on the road?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Like what's your well?

Speaker 3 (48:28):
We all do you know the scheduled co writes And
there's been some great songs come out of that. It's
just you don't always have it, you know. And and
the tough thing about even guys like y'all that are
really successful in writing is y'all have spread pretty thin.
I mean, y'all have to write with a lot, so
I mean, you don't have a great idea every day.
So what I've come to realize is when I when

(48:49):
I have an idea i'm fired up about, I'll write it,
you know. And I mean, obviously I don't like selfishly
try to write songs about myself because I want to
make more of a percentage of postion. I just do
it because it's like, if something hits me and I'm
fired up about it, stops, yeah, and I'll and I'll
do it. And so like there's a song called Jesus
Saves on the album that is uh freaking it's done
really well. Well. I had that idea, you know, and

(49:12):
it was like a you know, I wanted to do something.
It was like kind of Chris Nightish a little bit,
you know that it was talking about things that weren't
the easiest thing I never even talking about. She told
me she was pregnant when day I turned it like
that's real nice stuff. And it was something about that that,
like I couldn't relate to what he was talking about
in the song, but something about it got me. So
I was like, you know, I wanted to write a

(49:32):
story that was real life. My father's face.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
This song was that, Oh yeah, run Deep was creek
beds on our place. Yeah, it's great man river rivers. Yeah,
I got so many but that's a very good point.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Something about I didn't know what it was. And so anyway,
I had that idea. I sat down probably ten or
twelve times to write that song and didn't have it,
And then one day I did, and I wrote in
about forty five minutes, you know, So it's like that,
don't mind if I do. I had that title written
down for a long time, and I thought initially it
was going to be like a me and my buddies.
I probably shouldn't go to the ball with these boys,

(50:07):
but don't you know, because that's what the saying is
my line. If I do, it's kind of like a morning.
And then I sat down. I was at a show
in Rogers, Arkansas, and I sat on the green room
and wrote it in about an hour and it went
a completely different direction. But I thought it was cool
to have a bit a duet and have a female
sing a different last chorus. Sure, and uh, I didn't
have La in mind, you know, because we had like

(50:28):
you Loved Me was doing so well. But I was
in the studio cutting it, and I texted her and said,
when you come by and put a female vocal on this,
and I want to like shop it around and see
who I was going to get to do it. And
she just crushed it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
So she's great. That's Alabama connection to it. And she
came down there.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
She's from Yeah around us such a sweet girl Montgomery are.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, she's great. That that you look like you love
me is everywhere. Yeah, it is blowing. It's a It
is a It is an absolute monster.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Because and you know, man good on YouTube for for
or writing that song, and and featuring on it because man,
she's It's kind of it's kind of like you're helping
bring light to something because she's great, man, and she's
been great. Yeah, and uh, you know, for her career
to really start taking off to blossom, it's a it's
a nice thing, man.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, it's cool to see me and I've I remember
Bradley Jordan reaching out to me about putting on some
shows years ago. I think when I was still playing
in Auburn and Bars, you know, and uh, I'm sure
us growing up in similar areas in similar ways probably
you know, we got the same kind of twang. I

(51:36):
guess is why it works. But yeah, it's cool to
uh to see her being successful like she is.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
It's a good singer.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Deer hunter too.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
She asked she could bring her dad on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
We're like, because it's like all her hunting stories are
with him.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I wouldn't have to talk really. Yeah, I don't know
if I've met yours, you.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Know, yeah, both yeah, bo.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
She told some girl the other day she was so
pretty lost hearing in his te.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
My god, my god, I still got it.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
I love my One of my favorites though, is about
introducing to a girl, and he he gave her a
hug by and he said, I hope, I hope my
wife don't hear me talking to my sleep, you know.
And she doesn't. Of course that doesn't. And so he
gives her a hug and he walks off, and he
goes and gets in line behind me to give her

(52:24):
another hug before she leaves. So what are you doing?
He's like, you get my age? You just pretend like
you forgot you got that first hug.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I didn't get any of that.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Got to listen to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Who all are you taking out on the road with you?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I know you did that. The video is great. The
super cool Man.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Uh, I would struggle to name everybody. There's so many people. Uh, Ella,
Drake White, Mike Ryan, Jake Worthington, Watkins, Wyatt, Whyte, mccovin,
Eric Dillon, Vincent Mason.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, Preston Cooper, dude, that kid is killing you heard him.
The Warren Brothers I think got him. It's like signed
to a deal, but he was. He did like a
whiskey jam thing and he's he's like this real tall,
skinny guy that has feathers coming off the end of
his guitar. Bro like Staple Tennis singer. Dude, he is
a killer. Yeah, he's real good.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Tell him about this up, fun man, did you just
kill a big Oh?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah? So I got a buddy that bought fifty five
thousand acres round buildings in Man Channel. I like that, buddy.
You know what's funny is like, obviously he's been very successful,
and it's obvious that people don't know what country music
success is like financially, because I mean I didn't know,
you know, I don't have any id. Yeah, and he's
on such a different level that he I think he

(53:53):
thought I was like we were together, you know, like
we were gonna go hand with Jerry Jones together, and
so he would text me and we we bought some
farms together, you know whatever, And he texted me said,
what do you think of this one? We're constantly sending
land and it's this fifty five thousand acres in Montagne's
like what do you think about this? And like, I.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's great. What do you mean? And so he bought
it and the first year I was the only one
that drew an archery elk tag. So basically everybody went
and kind of hunted with me, and we just we
learned the property. We've never been on it before. It
was a little early, it was hot. Only had three
days to hunt that year, and we got closed a
couple of times. I drew The next year. I think

(54:33):
I drew back about four times but didn't get a
shot on anything. It was like you know that you
know it is they they're like turkeys. They don't come
up the way they're supposed to, you know, and it's
it's always a cluster because they're running in at you
and all that. But we hit the rut really good
that year. They were bugling like crazy. Didn't draw last year,
and then this year I drew and I think I
had five days to hunt. And Matt Duff, who was
on the road with me, major league BA hunter, he's

(54:56):
he doesn't work with me anymore. He got a job
for my buddy. He runs his ranch, so he lives
up there in the cabin.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
So he had a good idea we're hanging out the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, So when I got up there, uh, but it
was I mean, they weren't bugling great, but we kind
of knew where they were hanging a lot of walls
and stuff like that. We were kind of catching them
coming from or going to and uh, we got down
in the bottom, real real deep draw and just kind
of walked, you know, fifty yards called walk called, kind
of like you would a turkey that's not really gobbling good.

(55:25):
And so we probably bugled fifteen times within one hundred
fifty yards. This elk didn't know he was there. And
and fifty yards oh yeah, yeah, because we're curving around
you know, draws, and when we got in his little bubble,
he bugled one time, I ran and it was you
know like that. Didn't find him until the next morning,

(55:47):
which was you know, that's always a tough thing because
it didn't look like it had a ton of penetration.
But I thought I hit him in a good spot.
We went and watched it. How far was shot for
thirty five yards, but he was straight uphill from me
but really steep. The camera guy was to my right
and he we didn't know until we watched the footage,
but he dropped to his stomach when I shot. I
didn't stop him. He was walking into our wind and

(56:07):
had to kind of shoot through a little gap, so
he was mid stride and yeah, anyway, I thought shot
was still good, but it was. It was a little
high on him, and he hardly any blood, you know,
because it's where it was on his body. So he
probably ran twelve hundred and thirteen yards.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, well how'd you find it?

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You blood trailing?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
We blood hilled him to the end of this draw,
and I kept thinking he would kind of double back
into some kind of thick stuff, but he ended up
running straight across the middle of a thousand acre wheatfield
and he was on the other side of it. Wow.
So the last place we looked kind of a ditch effort,
looked like we were all down.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Yeah, that's awesome, And that's great you found him.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, I was fired up.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
So how much meat will you get off that three
hundred quarters?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
When I was there, we ate elk burgers, elk chili,
and elk tacos for five days and I didn't get
tired of it. I'm as excited about getting that shipped
over here as I am.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
If you had one, if you had one day to hunt,
uh just just one day of the.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Year watch tail in Kansas, Okay. I I enjoyed the
elk come and I get the the I get it,
you know what I mean. Like it's it's fun, it's exciting.
I like the physical part of it, like hiking in
and all that, like feeling like you're really doing something.
But I'm not eat up with it, like I am.
I'm so right tail like something about going to like

(57:28):
Kansas or Illinois. It's like you just never know what's
going to walk out no clue. And I've seen it
happen so many times where like I've got sell cameras
out or I'm going and pulling cards constantly and I'm
you know, the big deer's not showing up on camera
at daylight, or he's not showing at all on this camera,
and then I'll go sit there and some deer never
been on the property. It just comes running off, you

(57:50):
know the right time.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Why I want to I want to get in a
little deeper on that. So what do you feel, like
why are you so connected to it? Because we me
and re talking about the exact question. Just ask you all.
So there's probably not a great answer for well.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I'll tell you this and this this could just be
me a little bit too. But I don't like, So
what I enjoy about hunting is I like to I
like to trick them, for lack of a better term,
I like to feel like we jokingly said that about
when a big boat walks out and you could have
killed him. You go, now like I kind of want
already got I like that feeling. And what I don't
get with elk coman is that because when you shoot
an elk with a bow, he's no something that is

(58:26):
u at that moment because he's running in he's got
to stop and he's looking right at you. I don't
like that.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It's kind of just like it's like a turkey.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Yeah, and it's and I still hunt a lot in
Nebraska and we and there's not a lot of big
trees up there where we're at. We're almost in South
Dakota sand hills, and it's really tough to hunt him,
not in a blind. And I hated that because you
can you can put a blind in the middle of
alf alpha field up there and they'll walk up by it.
But they know, so they're they're iffy, you know. I mean,

(58:54):
I can't stand that my eyes on them looking, and
you know, so I like to get in a tree
and try to figure out where they're at and that
cat and mouse of what tree you put your stand
in when you're bow hunting. I mean, it's no different
to me than how much more I enjoyed deer hunting
when I started bow hunting, because I gun hunted when
I was a kid, and you know, I mean I
still enjoyed it. But like something about going with a bow,
like there's so many decisions you make that or make

(59:16):
or break.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I draw the comparison to like from like gun hunting
and bow hunting to watching the show at the bridgetone
and watching the show at the Listener or the blue
or the Bluebird or the Rhyme. It's like bow hunting
is so intimate man like you have to be you
have to be in their zone, you have to be
that close to them.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Well, it makes you, it makes you picky about what
you shoot. I mean, I you know it say it's
like Iowa, where there's a lot more like it's more
bow hunts. There's a bigger deer because if you only
get one tag and you have you're you're looking at
that deer longer. You know, you're pickier about how you
haunt them. I I realized that when I had a
buddy that bought an island in the Mississippi River technically

(59:58):
was in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
You got some good ba.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
It was about it was about twelve hundred acres, but
when the water got up it was about nine hundred.
A lot of it flooded. And there was giant deer
out there. You've hunted on the river missis River.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I was big deer down there, and it's a different deal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
And we're literally on an island. It to take a
boat to get there, and uh, I'll never forget it.
I was so fired up by going through and hunting,
and it was muscleloader season and they were giving me
so much crap for taking my boat, and I'm like, well,
I want a bowl hunt, you know. And this buck,
one sixty ten pointer, like the biggest deer I ever
killed in my life at this time, walks out and

(01:00:33):
he's coming right to me, and there's a couple of
dough and a small buck, and small bucks sees me
as I'm drawing on He's about fifty yard. He's walking
right to me and I'm drawing. Small bucks sees me
and blows. They all run off and he's been dead
with a muscleloader. Yeah, yeah, And I remember thinking after that,
how you know that feeling absolutely now you know, I've
never had an opportunity of a deer even remotely like
that in my life. I thought ky like I was

(01:00:53):
eat up with it, couldn't sleep, And I thought about it,
and I was like, man, the how bad that made
me feel't make up for I mean, because it wouldn't
have meant as much about as shotting with the muscle orters,
you know what I mean? Like so, and I was like,
that's that's it, Like I've not killed some big dealer
because I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Take a rival and you feel better about that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, honestly, it didn't bother me that much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, that's an interesting thought process.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
And I would, I would.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I would.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah, I too, I would agree with that. We talk
about it all the time, like what why do you
go right? Like what do you really want to get from?
Because for a while it was like big deer, big deer, big. However,
we can get a big deer, whether it's you know how,
because it's such a thing that you want to attain

(01:01:38):
that you don't care how you get it, You just
want to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Well, once you've done that, a couple of times like
what do you and we started realizing we thought the
answer was hunting the Midwest, right or hunting, but really,
in reality, at this point in our lives, what we're
trying to get from hunting is like we want to
do it with our dad, and we don't really care
where that's at, whether that's west to to See or

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my backyard or that's right in the current state of hunting,
which is also what's so beautiful about it is because
it's constantly evolving.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Right like what are we what do you want to
get out of it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Right now? We like getting that out of it, like
quality time with the people that we live a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I've gotten this coming less about the deer duck hunting
was that for me because I was so like it
was so hard to duck hunt Northeast Alabama when I
started doing it, and I was so eat up with it.
Like I remember going and there was a swamp and
ballplay Alabama. I got permission to hunt so at least
and it was worth nothing, and it was like there
was absolutely no bottom in it. You walk with boost,

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you had to pull your little every step, you know,
and it was like three hundred yards off of this
little bitty hole. I took pallettes I picked up for
wind Dixie out there, give me their pallets and to
make and they were just sink into nothing, you know.
And it was it was I got a three four
wheler stuck out there, ruined a fourler I couldn't afford
the time, and I would go out there just to
maybe see a duck, you know, like it was, and

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I was just so fired up about it. I go
out through an afternoon and watch them, you know. And
now it's like, you know, I've got some nice places
to go, and like I just want to take my
pops or buddies or whatever and let them experiences. I've
kind of done some of those things. And that's I
was with deer and was like, now that I've killed
some big deer and accomplished some of those things are
a little tougher. I don't have that, like I got

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to be out there, I got to kill this big
deer's showing up whatever I'd like to. It's a different feeling,
I think now I enjoy it because that's the best
disconnect to have. Seeing on a tractor at home, liking
on a bulldozer, don't I'm not thinking about anything else.
It's pretty good. Now. They still get me on the
phone when I'm on the tractor, I guess. But when
I'm in the woods in Kentucky and I sat all

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morning and I'm thinking, Man, I wonder if I moved
my stand over here, if I went down to this point,
I'm walking around the middle of day and getting hot
and sweaty and trying to get up a plan for
that afternoon. I'm not concerned about anything else in the world.
So that's the best disconnect I've found from what's a
pretty crazy lifestyle of being a touring artist.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Yeah, we said, you said all the time. It's the
only disconnect we really get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Fishing and hunting and being in the outdoors is the
reason we ain't got to go to therapy, like like
it's it's it's it is the the decompression, it's the
read like we wait all year for the fall to
to to plug our battery and the charge us up
for the rest of.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
The you know, the year coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
And I still do a lot of hunts, you know,
I do some some hunts a real tree and and
and major league Behona where they come film and stuff
like that. And when you're filming, you know, if you
don't get a kill, you don't get an episode out
of you know, so you film for a week and
it's so I always feel like I kind of owe
it to them for time sending the camera guy with
me or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Absolutely done a lot of Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Gun hunts and stuff, and I still enjoyed, I mean,
seeing big deer running around and had an opportune to
kill a big deer is you know, it's hard to
beat that field anyway, but yeah, I just got where.
Now what I really enjoy is the challenge of it. Yeah,
and it's so much harder to go with the bow
and someone like that that dear I killed in Arkansas
a couple of years ago, I back here in the
swamp when I've told you that story, yeah one thousand, Yeah,

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that was like that that deer me put my hands on.
That deer gave me a feeling that I've never had
before of just like relief, you know, like I accomplished
something that I'd been doing for three years. That's how
I thought about that. ELK.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, tell us that that Arkansas story man, just to abbreviate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It, Well, that deer got on camera like it was
three years before I killed it. We've been twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Uh is it same?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Sorry? Is it like delta deer?

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Like, well, this is nor this is northeast Arkansas, but
oh oh dear, but you know Arkansas, Misissippi both sleeper states,
I mean, especially with the egg and Mississippi as there
is in Illinois.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
And on that Missisippi flood zone. Whether all that eag
is bro delta dude, those deer are huge.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Show you a picture. I got a buddy that's got absolute.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
So we've all seen those big deer up on the
levee or whatever, you know. So I knew those big
deer down there this year got on camera because we
had a camera set up on a gate where to
make sure somebody wasn't coming in and out of the property.
And he was walking in water about this deep. Yeah,
giant wood. So I obviously went out there and started hangingstands.
We've never really hunted. It's about thirteen hundred acres, but
it's all duck hu, you know it's and it's prime
duck hu. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Uh, But it's an.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Archery only unit in Arkansas. Because I assumed that close
to the river. When it floods, it pushes all these
dew out into big egg fields and all that. So
if you get a gun, you know, road hunters whatever,
I autu you. Uh. So I started going out there
putting cameras, putting stands. First year it didn't I saw
a few small bucks, something really big. The next year.
I never had an encounter with him, but I figured

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out where he was. My cameras were getting the right spot.
There was a ditch that I always go in with
my climber and my boat to try to walk in
at night through the woods, and you know, early early
in the morning, and I couldn't cross it. It was
it wasn't about this deep, but it had that real
soft bottle. I was wearing waiters and it would sync
up to like I was grabbing brand like it was. Yeah.
I died out there several times, and you couldn't get

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a boat to it by water because there's a lot
of dry lambitsween there. And he was basically living on
this big green timber island and going through water that
was you know, chest deep to get to it. And
they were they bedding on like the side of these
big cypress trees. Wow. Just just the root balls of them.
They were betting in little cur I busted them because
it's wide opening, that kind of territory where it floods.

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There's no undergrowth. Sure we're so used to seeing like greenery.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
It's nothing stripped.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
So you go walking in there and you see white
bouncing off into four hundreds with you know. So I
busted him several times. Second year, I'm sure the next
year I went back and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Still get pictures of still get them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Always got pictures of him. Not a lot of daylight
stuff on feeders, but basically I was like these fingers
that would run out of tho woods. I was trying
to get him to I'm trying to catch him in between.
So I took a buddy out there and we hunted
for seven days. One trip nothing and my buddy had
to go back. So we leave to go back to
Jack's file Evan. We got to Memphis and I said,
I got to drop you off. No what called hurts

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got him a run car sending home. I went back
three more days that deer ron. Twice. In those three days,
I was going like two miles out of the way
on one of those electric bikes to get into the stand. Yeah,
and he was on the edge of a cut beanfield,
literally a mile from where I was gonna hunt him at.
You know, like it would have worked out great for
him to come to there. So I'm like, I talked
to him that morning. I had my head lamp on.

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I stopped and seeing me standing right there, I'm like,
are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
We're doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
So I hunted two to three more days nothing. The
rut was kind of going on this when I went
to Canada with Luke in November, so I had to
leave during the rut that killed me. I came to
Nashville and I was I remember doving a meeting and
I was sitting there and I was looking at my
place in Panama City at the weather. It was like,
you know, eighty five degrees, you know, it's perfect. I

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look at Arkansas and it's seventy something raining. I'm like,
I'm not going back out there, you know, I'm going
flat on the beach and hang out for a couple
of days. And somehow I got my truck drove back
off to t Arkansas. I got up that morning at
like four and went and stand. I sat in the
dark for an hour and a half easily, and I
remember sitting there and I was looking. It wasn't the
best stand I had. It wasn't Worre. I've seen him

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on camera the most, but I was just trying something different.
The wind was good and that staf was raining, and
I remember, you know, everybody's seeing those branches that look
like a deer, you know, Sorr sitting there. I'm looking,
you know, and by it starts to break, it stood
up and he was eighty yard from my stand, Betty,
just in the middle of this wide open woods. Have
no idea why it would be there or nothing. He
walked forty five yards, go Bob. He wasn't going to

(01:09:19):
the feeder. He was going just down the creek, had
a little pinch port there and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Smoked him that that cat and mouse years right, three years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
The first time I'd ever had a deer a hundred
for three years, like a you know, I mean, I've
a hundred a deer on my property that I thought
was a good one, but kind of opened to several
other deer as well. This was when I was like
fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
First big deer, like real big deer I ever killed,
was in in Tennessee and our on our place in
West Tennessee, and it was a mid mid fifties ten
point but twenty two inch spread, just like giant deer
probably went to fifty two sixty on the hoof, I mean,
like big Tennessee deer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
We saw him in velvet, got pictures of him in
velvet one year and for three years made a game
plan on that deer and ended up when Dan was
the only one who ever saw him in daylight, saw
him during the rut the year I killed him running
down this ridge and couldn't stop him because he was
he was dogging. Yeah, but but it's that, it's that
game plan, and it's it's it's the it's that cat
and mouse where when the season's over, you're already thinking,

(01:10:17):
all right, where's this deer gonna live, where's he's where's
he gonna win or out, where's he gonna drop his horns,
where's he gonna summer, where he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Come back to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
We went in put food plots close to his bedding
where he knew he was, and I put like an
Instagram thing on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I was like, hopefully this is the plot. I'm gonna
kill this deer that deer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Literally I hunted that different three years and shot him
after uh like the last day of Thanksgiving break one year.
But there is no greater feeling to me on the
same way, like if you give me one day to
go do anything, I'm whitetail hunting somewhere and chasing a
big deer that's probably gonna get the best of me,
but I'm gonna go after him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I don't get his intensive body an the other hunting
like turkeys get me fired up, but I'm not like
so you know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Don't lose sleepover, that's right. So I would I would
have assumed you were. I mean, if I had no
I know you, so I know you're in the white tail.
But it seems very duckish, you know what I'm saying.
It seems very d ducky, ducky.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
You look pretty like again here we go. You look
like you look like you would be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
A duck boy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
What I'm saying, yeah, thank yeah, yeah, I mean sorry
duck man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Dug boys like, yeah, dougle was like a superhero.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Get to play on me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Explain everything you know to Really the point is to
bring attention to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
My song.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Thanks for hopping onto Dylan mar his career. Guys. You know, yeah,
maybe we could go around and I just had to
get in there before you one place that we would
rather be right now? Yeah, because maybe there's a song
on an album called or Rather Be?

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Is that you know? You know it must have been
a rider on that side.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
I don't. You could never guess. The chorus goes when.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Bitching me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Make me think it's a good thing, rally singing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
It sounds like a like a lullaby way something like that,
kind of stomped up and it's real high. Okay, I
didn't make you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I didn't try to make you sing. It's super high.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Dude, I do that old power chord on one man,
not on three. You said, I am, it's a little
it's a little easier very much.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
So where would you rather be than hearing Jordan's bitch
at you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
That's tough because I'm having a blast right now. You
go first, let me think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I mean, like, are we going like, I mean anywhere?
Were trying to pick something like I would I would
usually not rather be here, but if you look at me,
then I would rather be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Just where where she don't look like you would do that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Where would you? That's what. She doesn't look like she does.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
We figured her out full.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
No, she she really, she's she's great. I hit it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Okay, let's go with hey man, that's good. We all
do that. We all make that segment, what are you
good at? And you just say to whoever the guess is,
you don't luck, you'd be good at blank.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
It works great talking trash while you're also saying something
nice about that. Because he really struggled with getting the
nice part out of it. We were basically saying you're fashioned,
then you look, but he was hearing it different. I
know it's a bat it's real, back Candied. I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
It was very back Candy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
We're getting this race before I get out of here,
very short legged. No come, I'm a little under the weather.
But when i'm when I'm at my when you're hell,
when your peak. I'll come back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah, okay, okay, you will come already already.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
I'm not gonna do the podcast again, but I'll come
back and watch y'all race. This is y'all a time now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Guy's funny Ray Green duck Boy, funny guy, Funny guy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I think hearing my wife I would rather I approve it, okay, okay, okay,
I would rather be building a box blind in the
middle of the summer mm hmm and a short sleeve
shirt with shorts on bush hogging or building a box line.

(01:14:19):
Then I then here in my wife, I'll take that
and that's my most I mean anything like, yeah, if
you ever a bush hoogged in shorts, yeah, it's not good.
You sh just always get eat up and you don't
even recognize that it's happening. You know, You're just like, oh,
I just do two strips and then you're like you
need to knock that edge out around the side, and
then before you know it, you got like Poisonou come

(01:14:42):
your entire shin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Uh? Fifty horse Kmota cab lists you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
I don't have anything with the cab on Exkis tears
got a cabin. Yeah, oh my, I've never felt good
about being a cab like my bulldoger. They were giving
me so much help about me getting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
The open air like I loves a cab.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
It's part of Once you get it, it's hard to
go back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah, ain't no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
And he's gotten soft to Jonathan. He's definitely a soft Jay.
That's his nickname.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
That's great, like soft jail.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
He actually he makes me feel like I have a
hard j for sure, like a jump.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
That's so great, that's really.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Back into that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I don't know what that's real. Yeah, soft Ja singles and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yeah, he feels like type of guy's got an air
conditioning cab man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
A soft Ja. I think that's his. I think, see
you're necessarily duck boy is gonna be pretty close. But
I think we found something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I mean, I'm not gonna say any names about this,
and it's not Jonathan, but this made me think about it.
There was a guy that I know is a professional
bass fisherman. He was talking about somebody else who's also
a big bass fisherman, but he was kind of bad
mouthing him, and he said he looks like the type
of guy that the reels were at the end of
his rod. That's one of the best I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
That only bass fisherman would get.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Yeah, because like nobody else, even if you're soul. Yeah,
no doubt. Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
One time these ones killed me. One time we got
hired way back in the day to film an outdoor
show easy here and there, was a guy I might
not get called back. No we didn't. I mean we
were terrible at anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
But he was he was, he was, he was reeling.
He was reeling a spind spinner.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Like this, facing him, like facing him and read we
were filming to try like a fishing thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Was so tired of it. He was like, just just
let me see it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
And he grabbed it open that battlement. He had a
buzz bait.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
It hit exactly exactly where he needed to go. He
handed back to really didn't like left hand and then
he failed. It was I was laughing, so he was
like it was one of those I can't take this anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
It's like, yeah, that that's really funny because I've always
been bad about like taking a buddy like we go
fishing or something bass fishing and like Gerald swindle, we
went out did something for bass. Whatever I wants to
hear you want real obviously, you know that's good. That's
pretty well. That's another backhanding man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I'm gonna still I'm gonna still look like the kind
of gallery literal all the way to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Y'all gotta listen to if you hadn't heard it, well
you haven't. It's not out. But I got a song
on the record called Real Problems or E E L.
I have heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
We got a little exclusive records out Bro Records Records
out records out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Oh great, Yeah, I'm sure you've heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Really like that song rather be Brian. I'm sharing that part.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Bad thing you had to say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
But it's the time of show for then Dan's feeling
himself today. Yeah calls.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Yeah, that was good man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Uh, we've done this with you before at at I
heeart the one that got away? It could be fish
deer song. Girl because you're not married, could be a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
We usually say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
People on here don't say girl because they're married.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I'm just texting my co writers. I'm gonna be late
for the record.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I'm not. I don't mean this no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I'm just Oh, you should have text your publisher before
you got here and go over.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Yah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I don't have anybody I need to text because I'm
y'all took me too long, you know, go go hurry up? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Uh what's your Uh? What's your one that got away?
What comes to mind?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Uh? Well, the only thing that I you know, I mean,
other than like if a deer, you know, gets killed
by somebody else. You said, you get hit by a
car or something. But as far as like a you know,
there's still room for yeah, a lot of things. But
if somebody else cuts a song, I feel like that's
kind of permanent. And he kind of ruined it. It

(01:18:56):
was a song Trent Thompson sent me. I think Scott
of my career cut Uh damn straight. Yeah, I love
that song. I wanted to cut it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
That's what Trent thomains a song. I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, yeah, he sent it to me, and uh, it's
tough when somebody when you're like, hey man, because people
don't send me a lot of songs. I guess because
I write a lot of songs. Yeah, somebody does.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Would you would people?

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Yeah, send me songs and I need some hits.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
But now let that out and just said it to us.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
And I knew that, uh that he uh, they wouldn't
be a single for me and he and he told
me said god he them have it on hold whatever
time A would be a single, but I'd rather you
have it. And I kind of tried to do it
out of a you know, like being nice, like well,
I mean I'd love to cut it, you know whatever.
The label wasn't real about it. Yeah, and having damn
in the title, I thought it probably wouldn't be a

(01:19:45):
single for me. Sure he cut it, it became a
single for him, became hit, and then lo and behold,
my next single is damn Good Day to Leave. So
that didn't matter at all. So I felt bad about
that one. But I just love that song. I mean, like,
when you hear a song like that, like I would
play that song back at my house, you like, just
enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Man, that's that's a good one. I didn't know he
wrote that. That's great, all right? We do uh, we
do a segment called Gravorite, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
You got a song for that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
It would probably just sound like the other Okay, yeah, yeah, Actually,
just y'all do all that a probably you can go
back and hit figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Actually, at favorite Tune greatest slash, Favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Doesn't have to is a song in your hits you
love me love so uh for me and the people listening,
y'all just combineded great in Favorite, That's right, okay. I
couldn't forget was that or gravy and Favorite? And I
couldn't no gravy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
You just made a word up with combinded. I love
that word. Yeah, yeah, I love.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Coming combined combined combined with with uh did Yeah that's
what y'all did. Yeah? Uh so what's this about? It's
your favorite song? Favorite song reminds you, uh the way
I am? I always liked that song, uh you know,
someone wishing I was down on some blue Blake. I

(01:21:06):
like that look nostalgic thing like wish you're at home,
But that song feels really relevant to me where I
am in my life, like wish I enjoyed what makes
my living? Like obviously I love playing country, traveling road,
but there's there's moments when I'm like, I find myself
like dreading something I've got to go do, and it's
I gotta take a step back and go like this
is awesome. You know you all know what I'm talking about.

(01:21:27):
Like when you when you do so much, you're spread
so thin, Like I can't remember we did Red Rocks
this year, and like it's red Rocks. You sold out
show a Red Rocks. How could I not be anything
but just ecstatic about that show? And I'm thinking, like God,
I got so much radio stuff that day or so
many people coming in, so many family and friends coming in.
Whatever I wanted to do, and like I was looking
at it as if it was like a job, and

(01:21:49):
it was like a stressful thing. It's a it's a
it's a living in the moment kind of thing. It's
hard to do when your moments are so planned out,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Yeah, that's kind of brilliant, because that's a great way
to describe it. We do it all the time. We're like,
you believe we're ropping about, yeah, whatever we're doing, even
though it's it's like people would pay hundred thousands of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
I asked Luke about that the other day before the
Bootlegger thing. I was like, man, because we played some
song and everything down there, and and I was like,
it if you could find a way, if I could
find a way to enjoy the lead up to a show,
because during the show, when I when I play the
first song or play the first chord, like the show
is always fun, and but like I feel sorry sometimes

(01:22:34):
for like Jordan or somebody that's around me during the
day of a show, cause like I'll be having a
good time, then I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Like feel sorry for around you. No because you can
grown up boy should.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
But like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Like there's always this loomin thing that I gotta do
later and it's it's fun, but it's work. And so
like like if I could figure out how to enjoy
the the lead up to the think to the gig,
I feel like it would be a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Mine is compartmentalizing that I have to pretend like it
ain't happen until it is time to turn it on,
to get a shower, to tune your stuff up, to
make the drive, Like I have to just pretend it
isn't happening.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
See, mine's almost the opposite, Like I I if I
have something like a thing that I can look forward to,
I can. I can do it. But if it's a
bunch of stuff, like all the things that lead up
to a show, in the sense of like that I
have to do make the show seem stressful because like
and it makes you. It gets me in a place
of where I'm not necessarily enjoying it as much as

(01:23:27):
I'm like just hoping it goes well totally, which is
a weird way you like, you know, and it's it's
all the stuff oddly enough that people don't see that
you got to go, do you know, and my things
like if I had I can still remember, like when
I was playing Birmingham, Like Iron City was a really
big venue for me at the time. It was about
thirteen hundred people. And I remember, like when I booked
that show, there's three months out, I look forward to it.

(01:23:48):
I can't remember the last time I look forward to
a show those three months out. I'm trying to get
through this week. You know, I got seven other like
fake hunting podcasts I gotta do today. And on a
serious note, don't feel that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
There doing our fake podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
This feels real. I didn't know we didn't have a
time Liny. Don't know why we'll put a clock out there?
Is that just the date you have you have today's day,
is that it's supposed to be a time limit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
But when we enjoy our guests, which we do every
one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Yeah, I've got to assume that Merle Haggard meant what
we're saying now. Wish I enjoyed what makes me live
and did what I do with a will and hand,
like yeah, because it is cool. We get to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Totally cool, so blessed man, so cool, and I'm with
you though, it just goes to show you like, regardless
of what it is you do, if you do it
long enough, you eventually you know. As humans, we're looking
for something else. I've even done a deer un.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
I've even been man, if I could just if I
could just get to Missouri, I would be a I
would feel better about my life.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
And then I get to Missouri and I'm like sitting
there literally in the stand after just saying I wish
I could get there and get in there and going, golly,
there's like a one hundred thousand things I really need
to be doing at the house, and it's like I
can't even.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Find a way to It's always something else.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
I'm always looking at looking forward, And I'm working now
as a grown man on being present and enjoying.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
The stuff to do. Man A good example, does I mean, like,
you know it is cool that y'all are real hunters.
When we get together, it's what we talk about. This
doesn't feel like work. We've obvious, Uh got to cut
up and goof off for a little while. But if
this is all I had to do today, and I
knew this was and I knew I was doing this today,
I would have looked forward to it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
I didn't get a chance to look more forward. Well, hopefully,
hopefully you enjoyed it while you were doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah, we'll do it again on race day. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
I'm ready. I'm not ready, but I will be ready
on race day.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
How long y'all need because you're like, are you gonna
train a little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Bro? A couple of weeks?

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Okay, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I'm not training nothing, And I still don't need to smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I just need to loosen the growing up a little bit.
I don't want to pull that thing again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, but a few more in your drink, in your gens.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
But I didn't cut that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Man. They came wor it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Uh ly appreciate you both. Thanks coming and hanging out
with Thanks for hanging out God's Country.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
We'll checked out out
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