October 30, 2024 • 27 mins
Rachel’s publicist Juliette Harris is taking over the mic and responding to Tom Sandoval’s latest comments saying Rachel tried to get him to blame NBC Universal for their affair. She also explains what’s going on behind the scenes with the cast’s contract negotiations and what fans can expect if there is a next season.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Going Rogue.
I am Juliette Harris, and today we're going to be
covering different headlines and vander Pumm Rules headlines, and let's
get into it. Okay. So this first headline, all the
cast beef around the vander put Rules salaries and how
much they're actually worth. Vander put Rules cast net worths
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reveal major disparities, with notable stars like Lisa vander Pump
leading in wealth while others like Tom and Ariana have
achieved moderate success obviously boosted by scannabal salaries very reflecting
each cast member's level of fame and involvement. So they've
been all kind of bickering about salaries behind the scenes.
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And we say this a lot in series. I mean,
if you guys remember there was huge fighting between the
cast and production and they sort of went on strike
until they got what they wanted in it was big dollars.
So I understand in any situation, you know, fighting for
the most that you can get. And then, of course
Rachel was misquoted when she said she didn't make any money.
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What she meant was she wasn't making money off of
the scandal. Where everybody else sort of jumped in to
do it. But she did explain how when she started,
because she was a girlfriend, she had the smallest amount
of salary for a couple of seasons. And when you
get that salary, which maybe like fifteen and twenty thousand
an episode, what people don't know is hair, makeup, clothes, location,
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all that stuff comes out of their pocket. So even
if you're Arian and Tom, which obviously you know them
having their their house as a set if you will
was a big deal because you know they didn't nobody
had to pay out of pocket expenses which comes off
the salary. So something to be aware of when these
people are making the kind of money they they do
have a lot of expenses that are coming out as well.
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And then Lalla and I don't think Laala's alone. Laala
and some other talent have also spoken about the incentive
that lies behind right. So for example, if you cause
more drama, you cause a spike in viewership, you cause
a great storyline. If you contribute, they do incentivize you. Also,
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they what is that saying, giveth he take it away?
If you are not, If you are boring and not contributing,
you get in jeopardy of being demoted, and we've seen
that where you could be suddenly a friend or a
supporting cast member, And the rumors were for Tom that
they were going to actually demote Ariana right before scanvall.
So I find that fascinating and then you see the turnaround,
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and that's the part of the pr that I love.
I do think at the end of the day, Bravo
and the production company and the network just even in
saying that that's three entities beside the talent that get
paid off of a show, right, plus the costs. So
at the end of the day, it's a business and
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they've got to make a decision that it makes money.
In one of the key points in reality TV is
they they're the least expensive to make. And then you
see some of these things getting like, you know, they'll
go film on location. When they film on location, those
are sponsored by the location, so that's a little bit
of money, less money for production when they go to
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you know, some cool resort or whatever, those those expenses
get covered. So I feel that will the show continue
or not is going to really come down to two things.
Out of the cast members, who is signed on and
number two does it make sense financially for them because
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they are all kind of out growing the you know,
those initial salaries, and they feel they've contributed a lot
and their brand is tied to it. So it's fascinating.
I think most people know this, but just in case,
something else that's fascinating that's tied to their salaries in
the brand when it comes to these reality shows is
that when they do their side businesses like Arianna does
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her books or things like that, you know, Bravo gets
a cut of that, and it's a matter if they
choose to enforce it or not, but it is in
the contracts that because the show helped build their brand
and they helped build the show's brand, they look at
it as mutually beneficial for the way that they can
make money. So I don't know at the end of
the day, it's going to come down to the numbers.
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My prediction is this. First of all, we're seeing them
all in the media and they're all starting the chatter.
So there's two things about that. Number One, it's probably
that they're teasing and leading up to the fact that
you know they're filming. Number two is that it also
you strike while the iron is hot, while there's still buzz,
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those press bites, those little pr opportunities still yield more
job opportunities and more money in the you know, while
you're hot, you're hot, and you get more job offers.
So I think that even Arianna, who I have said
in the past, has outgrown the show in my opinion,
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if it works out for her schedule, why would she
not because she's still going to get paid. She still
gets the opportunity for FaceTime, which leads to other things
for her. She's got more power, so she's going to
do things more on her terms, like we already have seen.
So I do think that the show will go still.
I do think money has a lot to do with
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what's going on, And I'm sure they are still negotiated.
When that last season that they were asking Rachel to
come back, I mean, the other people had already started
filming and they didn't have an answer from us, and
as we still continued to say, we didn't know, and
we didn't know it was going to work for her,
and you know, was there going to be mental health
advocates on set and things like that While we were
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still in the negotiating, they were filming, not knowing if
she was coming back or not. So I do believe
they're probably sorting out those that have signed on, and
they might still be fighting a little bit or negotiating
a little bit with people on money. But at the
end of the day, this cast knows that this show
is coming to an end, and so they're going to
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take whatever pennies they can get off of it and
do whatever else they can do to parley it into
something else. So that's my opinion on where things stand
and where things are going to go. I do still
think the fans are hungry for it. I do think
the ratings still work, so as long as the finances
work out, I think it'll all come together. Okay. Next headline,
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Shina shares her candid thoughts on Katie's boyfriend. Sina went
on her podcast to speak about meeting Katie's boyfriend and
had very nice things to say about him with conversations
with some mutual friends. He's from San Diego and then
I ran in to him later back at the hotel
and he was just a really sweet guy. So again
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I feel that, you know, Bravo's very unique in the
way that they let the talent, you know, get out
there and this talent in particular with all their own
podcasts and shootoffs. They are very vocal all the time,
and so whether they're saying something good or whether they're
saying something negative, it gets them all aheadline. The Bravo
fans are ravenous for information, so that keeps them connected
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to the Bravo fans. It's a very clever and unique
communications platform, the yiding in yang that works between the
fans and the cast and how it ultimately translates into
the show. Fans, you all think you've got ownership, and
I think that's something that Bravo does very well because
they stay connected. Plus they use the bloggers, which is
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also fascinating, which I'm going to touch on a little
bit later too. So it's really this community around the
show and if they can keep the storylines interesting, the
buzz is definitely still there because the cast is out
there still creating it. So look, at the end of
the day, boyfriend is a big word for somebody that
just starts dating. I don't know how long they've been dating,
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but you know what happens in Hollywood, and especially if
there's somebody that's kind of outside of Hollywood. Sometimes they
get spooked, and if there's somebody inside of Hollywood, sometimes
they're using each other for headlines. So relationships are very
difficult in the public eye. So again them coming out
and talking and you know she no being involved, it
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gets complicated. But look, I don't know the facts there,
So I hope she has a nice boyfriend. I hope
he treats her well, and I hope it works out.
You know, it is interesting if you look at the schematics.
If Katie's got a boyfriend that can get her away
from talking about Schwartz, there can be drama between Shorts
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and the new boyfriend. Tom brings on his new girl.
Now you've got some more characters and some more depth.
When they were asking Rachel to come back on, one
of the things that was interesting was, you know, who's
she going to hang out with and who's she going
to bring on? And it was complicated for her besides
you know, many other layers. But she had a lot
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of friends, like we spoke about last time, that you know,
had been harassed because they were friends and they were
normal people, so they didn't want to go on TV.
So she had to try to find TV friends or
TV people and that is difficult. It's not natural or organic.
So you know, with these relationships, who knows, who knows
if they were brought on because they needed the you know,
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each character, each main character needed a depth. I mean,
in all reality, that's why Rachel was brought on, right
because James needed a girlfriend. James found Rachel on the Internet,
I believe, I think, and then you know, she's like, okay,
I'll sure whatever. But so all of these people, some
are hungry and some are okay, maybe it'll be okay.
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So that will definitely bring new blood, new juice, new drama.
If they all have some new significant others that are
not or you know, best friends or supporting characters. However
you want to look at it. So if the relationship
lasts or they can make it work, I'm sure the
new boyfriend slash friend will be on the show as well. Okay,
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next one. This is always interesting to me. Lisa Vanner
Pump pushed out Evander Pump Rules as Bravo attempts to
minimize her involvement with filming. This is from the son
who I love the Sun. However, they're not always one
hundred percent at Cane rint with the facts, but they're
great anyway. Lisa vander Pump is being pushed out of
her show, it has been claimed. Despite being executive producer
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of the reality show since the series premiere in twenty thirteen,
Lisa's role has changed significantly in recent years. The show
is currently on a hiatus, but sources told The Son
that Bravo is still planning to green light at least
one more season. Now. Look, so it's got her name
on it, so she's always gonna draw a paycheck. She
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is an EP, so she's always going to draw a paycheck.
I mean, it depends on the schematics of the show.
And look, the producers and the companies behind it, they
kind of know who gets what reaction. There's contracts to consider,
So what does her contract say, What does Ken's contract say.
There'll be negotiations on the money. You know, is it
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a little bit of an outdated formula that she kind
of pops in and does a check in on everybody,
and you know, plays the mother hen and then goes,
maybe maybe it is. She's got multiple other shows she's
certainly not hurting. Plus new restaurants, new partnerships she's opening,
So I think I don't think they're going to change
her And if they change the name, it's complete and
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total rebrand of the show entirely, and the premise and
everything else. So I don't think they'll change the name.
If Lisa didn't show up in the show, does it matter.
I don't really think it matters, because they're all individuals
and they're all sort of self producing themselves too, So
I think if Lisa doesn't come back, or chooses to
even have less of a role, or maybe she introduces
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and does the reunion as an EP, I don't think
it's really going to matter personally. I mean, I'm sure
it'll matter to her it's got her name on it,
but she still gets a paycheck, so I don't think
she's going to carry this. She's moved on to other shows,
so I don't think they'll change the name of the
show no matter what. She'll get a paycheck no matter what,
and she may, depending on the restrictions, she may negotiate
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to do one or two appearances in the whole season,
and that'll still count her in. And let's not forget
the magic of TV. I once to hit a tour
with a celebrity and we changed his shirt six times
in one city, and it looked like we were in
a bunch of different cities, so she could film many
scenes in one day and get one day one day rate.
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Oh and let's not forget that too. In the soap
opera world, one of the things they do is they
get paid per day. So what they do is a
lot of times they'll try to slip in and film
many episodes, many scenes in one day, so it may
come out in three or four episodes, but they still
get paid for one day. So the production companies are
smart and they'll make it work. And you know, Lisa
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wants to keep her brand going, so the more appearances
she does, obviously she gets paid, but it also keeps
her rand alive, breaths life into it. So those are
my thoughts on that. Hey. Next one, Tom Sandoval and
Ariano Maddox's house going on the market after long battle.
This is reported by Reality Tea the house is going
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on the market. Tom shared, we're selling the house, getting
it ready. He confirmed, announcing that his girlfriend and he
will be moving in together. So look, I think the
battle about the house is twofold number one. Financially, it
is an investment, right and they both want to get
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more out than they put in Number two. It definitely
became a bit of a pissing match. Right, I'm going
to stay here, you have to do this. I mean,
their whole situation was wild. I have often said this,
if my husband and I got in a fight, there's
not a house big enough that we could stay under
the same roof during that fight, Like, you just need space.
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So actually living there after a breakup and splitting floors
and rooms and timing not to see each other, you know,
I don't really believe that either, But I think the
healthiest thing for them to both move on, and it's
the healthiest thing for them to untangle whatever the finances
are so they can get out of it and move
on with their lives. And even though they're both moving on,
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actually we haven't heard much about Arianna and her boyfriendly,
so that's kind of an interesting thing. I have to
dig into that. I think his name is Daniel, right,
if they're still together, but it is time for the
house to go and for them to separate. And if
you're the new girlfriend or the new boyfriend, do you
really want to be living in the shadow of the
old I think that's super uncomfortable and unhealthy to start
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a relationship with. So good for them if they're doing it.
And you know, I think that that's one thing the
fans really didn't understand. The fans are like, I don't
understand how you could be so silly as to not
get out of there and find a way out of there.
There's always a way out. And even if one person,
if you couldn't sell it right away, because you know,
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they're taxes and finances and whatever, they have somebody, you know,
you move out, you still get out. So yes, but
I guess then again, pr side, it made more drama
for the show. How do you make a storyline around
two people that are broken up and supposedly won't interact
with each other. They still ended up doing scenes together.
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They so they said they wouldn't do scenes together. That
was per ariana and but yet the large chunk of
the show was them having to navigate around the house.
So it worked for storyline, It created drama, It got
people's tongues wagging off air and on the on the blogs,
so you know, again it still worked. But I do
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think people thought it was silly and they're ready for
everybody to move on. And yeah, let's not forget that
the more the house was shown, the more drama there
was around the house, it could drive up the price
of the house. I don't I don't know how much,
but we've seen a lot of celebrities houses go up
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in value because of it. So you know, if some
Bravo fan or or some Airbnb person is like, oh,
I want to have the the Bravo Tom and Ariana
drama house come and stay in it for the weekend, Yeah,
why wouldn't it, that would definitely drive the price up.
So they're smart marketers, these people, Okay. Lala Kent shares
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details of her past relationship with Julian Sensley. This also
is reality blurb. Lala Kent talks about Britney cart Right
hooking up with Julian shortly after separating from Jax Taylor.
Lala says she and Julian hooked at first, and she
was the one to bring Julian around the group. That's
how he became friends with Jackson Brittany. Lala ended things
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with Randall. She and Julian would communicate and sometimes make out.
Lala ended up doing a background check on Julian and
the results made hers step back because they were not
in alignment. Wow, okay, and then Jax was pissed that
Brittany hooked up with Julian, but then Julian because Julian
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and Jack's were friends, so then he stops seeing Brittany. Okay,
my goodness. Los Angeles is a really big city. Why
is it that this group of people in particular just
date each other and friends. I mean, there's a pretty
big pool out here, and there's a ton of people
that want to be on TV, and there's people from
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all over the world that come to LA to get
that break, and I'm surprised that they just keep having
these same people and dating the friends, you know that saying,
don't fish in the company pond, like stretch out a
little bit. It's a really big place. But then let's
be smart, and obviously the storyline comes first, and these
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people live for the storyline, so there's probably a little
bit more drama attached to the fact that they dated
the same person than somebody knew out there in LA. Again,
I know, I always give Lalla props because I think
she's smart cookie for the way that she markets, So
I'm a Lalla fan in that way. Rachel Levis's lawyer
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hits back at Tom Sandoval's lawsuit. This also from Reality Tea,
which I will actually give a nice shout out to
because they did respond to me and put the retraction
in also so or the quote. I'll explain it in
a moment. So recently Tom hopped on his podcast and
dropped some new allegations about Rachel. Her team came to
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my team and basically offered to drop all the charges
against me if I were to blame the way the
affair was found out on NBC Universal. Tom stated, So
Tom would have to allegedly claim that NBC somehow put
him up to it. Now in Rachel's attorneys, Brian Friedman responded,
calling it an outward lie and fabrication and ridiculousness, ending
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by saying, once again, Tom Sandival cannot be trusted and
the reasons are glaring. He also said, Tom Sandaval, who
I legally and secretly recorded Rachel Levis in a sexually
compromising situation without her knowledge or consent, while cheating on
his girlfriend. You know, Look, so this happened in live
time for me, right, so we see Tom's ridiculousness. He
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was quiet the whole time Rachel was on her podcast,
and then when she goes off, you know, he gets
on his to speak again. I don't know if that's
a coincidence or not. Just to put it out there,
Rachel could be a guest here any time to refute
anything that she wants to refute, so you know, it's
not like she can't speak. And obviously through the press
and through her attorneys, she can speak, which is what happened.
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So we got the we saw the reporting that he
said that, and I immediately reached out to the attorneys,
and the attorneys immediately gave us a statement which I
then sent to publications and some bloggers, and the attorneys
were adamant that no such thing had happened. And you know,
Tom doesn't lie in a puddle of credibility, does he,
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because you know, first of all, he filmed somebody without
their consent. Second of all, he continues to lie, tell
us all sorts of interesting stories, tell us he's going
to retaliate against Rachel, which he did and is. And
the attorney he had when he said he was going
to file against Ariana, which taking the people out of
it was actually not a dumb move. There's two ways
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that it works in the lawsuit, either he teams up
with Ariana or he goes against Ariana and separates himself. Right,
So the what the attorney, his attorney, I guess now
fired suggested was not a not a bad move legally,
So for Tom's public image, that was not nice, right,
He'd already shot on his girlfriend and now he was
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going to do it again. So and he took the
he ate. So he backtracked and did he really fire
that attorney? Yes, it did. It's interesting too because while
that was happening in lifetime, he said he'd fired his
attorney and removed himself from the situation that he it
was the attorney's idea. All through that time that attorney
was still on staff. And the reason I know that
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is because when you're in a lawsuit, an attorney has
to notify the attorneys on the other side that you're
not still involved. So there was quite a period of
time after he made the claim before that attorney did
actually come off with the paperwork and notify Rachel's side.
So I found that very interesting. Also, I love the
legal stuff behind it is fascinating to me. So anyways,
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at the end of the day, Tom is just trying
to make a headline, and he's still trying to hurt Rachel.
I don't know why, you know, what, you were in
a relationship and his little girlfriend that then comes out
and bashes on Rachel. The guy your dating was not
only fifty percent of that relationship, but he was also
the one that was in the long term partnership. So
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you know, before you're going to call names, that's somebody
you've never met and put blame at someone you've never met,
you might want to look at the guy you're sleeping
next to. At the end of the day, I don't
fault any of them. They're young people. Well Tom's not young,
but they're young, and they had relationships. They made mistakes,
they made poor judgment. Move on. I don't know why
she's still talking about it. I don't know why. I mean,
I do know why. You know that Tom's still bringing
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up Rachel because people want to hear about Tom and Rachel. Weirdly,
as much as people hated them what they did, people
were weirdly rooting for them, if not just to hate
them being together. So that whole part is rather fascinating.
So at the end of the day, his quote. The
quote that Tom gave on his podcast was to get viewers'
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attention and headlines, and it was completely not true. Within
within hours of us hearing of it, I contacted the attorneys,
and the attorney's issue a statement, and I gave that
statement vehemently refuting it and telling the truth. You can't
trust an established liar. So there's that. The other thing
that I find personally fascinating and it's something for me
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that I'm learning to navigate or which is different. You know,
when I started in PR their work bloggers, and there's
two kinds. There are the people that are really trying
to be credible and they build their headlines, you know,
they build great content. But I have relationships with them
where I'll call and say, you know, here's the facts,
here's the lawyer's statement. Whether you posted about the first
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half or not, here's our side in case you do,
and they are respectful and we have great you know,
cambaraderie is far it professionally. And then there's the other side.
There's the other side who I will not name, but
they're trying so hard to be insiders and they're trying
so hard to find their space that they just interpret
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things on the negative side because they know that the
negative side gets more press. So in this statement, there's
a particular person that analyzed it and decided that even
with the statement with the lawyer saying what they said,
that there was more to the story and he believes
that Rachel was gonna drop the lawsuit. Well, I can
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tell you there's no truth to that whatsoever. And these
these people that are just trying to make their own
name by being negative and controversial, you know whatever, If
that's what floats people's boats, good for them, right, And
there are people that ride the negative wave for their
own views and clicks, and they're not even interested in
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reporting truth. The funniest one was this morning where a woman,
so this happened I think almost a week ago, write
this whole Tom Common and our response, and this woman
put out something last night that she had the tea,
and you know the tea was basically she had the
private tea from the attorneys. At the end of the day.
It was the same statement that I'd given out. So
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that was kind of funny, but pop props to her
forgetting attention. But then she decided that the attorneys didn't
write it that I wrote it. No basis for this.
Her explanation was that I had sent the quote. Well,
that's my job as a publicist is to communicate between
the various parties, So I didn't find that quite funny.
I can assure you I did not write that quote.
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The attorneys wrote that quote, and those attorneys were were
vehemently denying and immediately said that there was zero truth
to that. So you got to take it with a
grain assault. And for all of you lovely followers that
are interested in the Bravosphere and all these shows, which
I know means so much to you and that you
really love and love to engage with people, just remember
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even though they might be entertaining, some of those those
bloggers and writers, you know they they're making it up
for content, and so just keep it, you know, with
a grain assault. It's fun to enjoy something, it's fun
to get in them the conspiracy theories, it's fun to
play along, but just remember that they're not a news
source and check out who's really being credible and trying
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to report both sides and remaining neutral, and then watch
the ones that are just one sided. Now, if you
love the people that just hate on somebody join in,
good for you, but just realize, you know, it's not
necessarily the truth. So that's my kind of personal take
on what happened with this last little bit of scandal,
and I think that wraps up the major headlines for
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this week. So hope you enjoyed it and have a
great week.
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Going Rogue.
I am Juliette Harris, and today we're going to be
covering different headlines and vander Pumm Rules headlines, and let's
get into it. Okay. So this first headline, all the
cast beef around the vander put Rules salaries and how
much they're actually worth. Vander put Rules cast net worths
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reveal major disparities, with notable stars like Lisa vander Pump
leading in wealth while others like Tom and Ariana have
achieved moderate success obviously boosted by scannabal salaries very reflecting
each cast member's level of fame and involvement. So they've
been all kind of bickering about salaries behind the scenes.
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And we say this a lot in series. I mean,
if you guys remember there was huge fighting between the
cast and production and they sort of went on strike
until they got what they wanted in it was big dollars.
So I understand in any situation, you know, fighting for
the most that you can get. And then, of course
Rachel was misquoted when she said she didn't make any money.
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What she meant was she wasn't making money off of
the scandal. Where everybody else sort of jumped in to
do it. But she did explain how when she started,
because she was a girlfriend, she had the smallest amount
of salary for a couple of seasons. And when you
get that salary, which maybe like fifteen and twenty thousand
an episode, what people don't know is hair, makeup, clothes, location,
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all that stuff comes out of their pocket. So even
if you're Arian and Tom, which obviously you know them
having their their house as a set if you will
was a big deal because you know they didn't nobody
had to pay out of pocket expenses which comes off
the salary. So something to be aware of when these
people are making the kind of money they they do
have a lot of expenses that are coming out as well.
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And then Lalla and I don't think Laala's alone. Laala
and some other talent have also spoken about the incentive
that lies behind right. So for example, if you cause
more drama, you cause a spike in viewership, you cause
a great storyline. If you contribute, they do incentivize you. Also,
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they what is that saying, giveth he take it away?
If you are not, If you are boring and not contributing,
you get in jeopardy of being demoted, and we've seen
that where you could be suddenly a friend or a
supporting cast member, And the rumors were for Tom that
they were going to actually demote Ariana right before scanvall.
So I find that fascinating and then you see the turnaround,
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and that's the part of the pr that I love.
I do think at the end of the day, Bravo
and the production company and the network just even in
saying that that's three entities beside the talent that get
paid off of a show, right, plus the costs. So
at the end of the day, it's a business and
(03:07):
they've got to make a decision that it makes money.
In one of the key points in reality TV is
they they're the least expensive to make. And then you
see some of these things getting like, you know, they'll
go film on location. When they film on location, those
are sponsored by the location, so that's a little bit
of money, less money for production when they go to
(03:30):
you know, some cool resort or whatever, those those expenses
get covered. So I feel that will the show continue
or not is going to really come down to two things.
Out of the cast members, who is signed on and
number two does it make sense financially for them because
(03:50):
they are all kind of out growing the you know,
those initial salaries, and they feel they've contributed a lot
and their brand is tied to it. So it's fascinating.
I think most people know this, but just in case,
something else that's fascinating that's tied to their salaries in
the brand when it comes to these reality shows is
that when they do their side businesses like Arianna does
(04:11):
her books or things like that, you know, Bravo gets
a cut of that, and it's a matter if they
choose to enforce it or not, but it is in
the contracts that because the show helped build their brand
and they helped build the show's brand, they look at
it as mutually beneficial for the way that they can
make money. So I don't know at the end of
the day, it's going to come down to the numbers.
(04:33):
My prediction is this. First of all, we're seeing them
all in the media and they're all starting the chatter.
So there's two things about that. Number One, it's probably
that they're teasing and leading up to the fact that
you know they're filming. Number two is that it also
you strike while the iron is hot, while there's still buzz,
(04:54):
those press bites, those little pr opportunities still yield more
job opportunities and more money in the you know, while
you're hot, you're hot, and you get more job offers.
So I think that even Arianna, who I have said
in the past, has outgrown the show in my opinion,
(05:14):
if it works out for her schedule, why would she
not because she's still going to get paid. She still
gets the opportunity for FaceTime, which leads to other things
for her. She's got more power, so she's going to
do things more on her terms, like we already have seen.
So I do think that the show will go still.
I do think money has a lot to do with
(05:37):
what's going on, And I'm sure they are still negotiated.
When that last season that they were asking Rachel to
come back, I mean, the other people had already started
filming and they didn't have an answer from us, and
as we still continued to say, we didn't know, and
we didn't know it was going to work for her,
and you know, was there going to be mental health
advocates on set and things like that While we were
(05:59):
still in the negotiating, they were filming, not knowing if
she was coming back or not. So I do believe
they're probably sorting out those that have signed on, and
they might still be fighting a little bit or negotiating
a little bit with people on money. But at the
end of the day, this cast knows that this show
is coming to an end, and so they're going to
(06:22):
take whatever pennies they can get off of it and
do whatever else they can do to parley it into
something else. So that's my opinion on where things stand
and where things are going to go. I do still
think the fans are hungry for it. I do think
the ratings still work, so as long as the finances
work out, I think it'll all come together. Okay. Next headline,
(06:43):
Shina shares her candid thoughts on Katie's boyfriend. Sina went
on her podcast to speak about meeting Katie's boyfriend and
had very nice things to say about him with conversations
with some mutual friends. He's from San Diego and then
I ran in to him later back at the hotel
and he was just a really sweet guy. So again
(07:05):
I feel that, you know, Bravo's very unique in the
way that they let the talent, you know, get out
there and this talent in particular with all their own
podcasts and shootoffs. They are very vocal all the time,
and so whether they're saying something good or whether they're
saying something negative, it gets them all aheadline. The Bravo
fans are ravenous for information, so that keeps them connected
(07:27):
to the Bravo fans. It's a very clever and unique
communications platform, the yiding in yang that works between the
fans and the cast and how it ultimately translates into
the show. Fans, you all think you've got ownership, and
I think that's something that Bravo does very well because
they stay connected. Plus they use the bloggers, which is
(07:50):
also fascinating, which I'm going to touch on a little
bit later too. So it's really this community around the
show and if they can keep the storylines interesting, the
buzz is definitely still there because the cast is out
there still creating it. So look, at the end of
the day, boyfriend is a big word for somebody that
just starts dating. I don't know how long they've been dating,
(08:13):
but you know what happens in Hollywood, and especially if
there's somebody that's kind of outside of Hollywood. Sometimes they
get spooked, and if there's somebody inside of Hollywood, sometimes
they're using each other for headlines. So relationships are very
difficult in the public eye. So again them coming out
and talking and you know she no being involved, it
(08:34):
gets complicated. But look, I don't know the facts there,
So I hope she has a nice boyfriend. I hope
he treats her well, and I hope it works out.
You know, it is interesting if you look at the schematics.
If Katie's got a boyfriend that can get her away
from talking about Schwartz, there can be drama between Shorts
(08:55):
and the new boyfriend. Tom brings on his new girl.
Now you've got some more characters and some more depth.
When they were asking Rachel to come back on, one
of the things that was interesting was, you know, who's
she going to hang out with and who's she going
to bring on? And it was complicated for her besides
you know, many other layers. But she had a lot
(09:18):
of friends, like we spoke about last time, that you know,
had been harassed because they were friends and they were
normal people, so they didn't want to go on TV.
So she had to try to find TV friends or
TV people and that is difficult. It's not natural or organic.
So you know, with these relationships, who knows, who knows
if they were brought on because they needed the you know,
(09:40):
each character, each main character needed a depth. I mean,
in all reality, that's why Rachel was brought on, right
because James needed a girlfriend. James found Rachel on the Internet,
I believe, I think, and then you know, she's like, okay,
I'll sure whatever. But so all of these people, some
are hungry and some are okay, maybe it'll be okay.
(10:02):
So that will definitely bring new blood, new juice, new drama.
If they all have some new significant others that are
not or you know, best friends or supporting characters. However
you want to look at it. So if the relationship
lasts or they can make it work, I'm sure the
new boyfriend slash friend will be on the show as well. Okay,
(10:30):
next one. This is always interesting to me. Lisa Vanner
Pump pushed out Evander Pump Rules as Bravo attempts to
minimize her involvement with filming. This is from the son
who I love the Sun. However, they're not always one
hundred percent at Cane rint with the facts, but they're
great anyway. Lisa vander Pump is being pushed out of
her show, it has been claimed. Despite being executive producer
(10:54):
of the reality show since the series premiere in twenty thirteen,
Lisa's role has changed significantly in recent years. The show
is currently on a hiatus, but sources told The Son
that Bravo is still planning to green light at least
one more season. Now. Look, so it's got her name
on it, so she's always gonna draw a paycheck. She
(11:17):
is an EP, so she's always going to draw a paycheck.
I mean, it depends on the schematics of the show.
And look, the producers and the companies behind it, they
kind of know who gets what reaction. There's contracts to consider,
So what does her contract say, What does Ken's contract say.
There'll be negotiations on the money. You know, is it
(11:41):
a little bit of an outdated formula that she kind
of pops in and does a check in on everybody,
and you know, plays the mother hen and then goes,
maybe maybe it is. She's got multiple other shows she's
certainly not hurting. Plus new restaurants, new partnerships she's opening,
So I think I don't think they're going to change
her And if they change the name, it's complete and
(12:01):
total rebrand of the show entirely, and the premise and
everything else. So I don't think they'll change the name.
If Lisa didn't show up in the show, does it matter.
I don't really think it matters, because they're all individuals
and they're all sort of self producing themselves too, So
I think if Lisa doesn't come back, or chooses to
even have less of a role, or maybe she introduces
(12:24):
and does the reunion as an EP, I don't think
it's really going to matter personally. I mean, I'm sure
it'll matter to her it's got her name on it,
but she still gets a paycheck, so I don't think
she's going to carry this. She's moved on to other shows,
so I don't think they'll change the name of the
show no matter what. She'll get a paycheck no matter what,
and she may, depending on the restrictions, she may negotiate
(12:46):
to do one or two appearances in the whole season,
and that'll still count her in. And let's not forget
the magic of TV. I once to hit a tour
with a celebrity and we changed his shirt six times
in one city, and it looked like we were in
a bunch of different cities, so she could film many
scenes in one day and get one day one day rate.
(13:06):
Oh and let's not forget that too. In the soap
opera world, one of the things they do is they
get paid per day. So what they do is a
lot of times they'll try to slip in and film
many episodes, many scenes in one day, so it may
come out in three or four episodes, but they still
get paid for one day. So the production companies are
smart and they'll make it work. And you know, Lisa
(13:30):
wants to keep her brand going, so the more appearances
she does, obviously she gets paid, but it also keeps
her rand alive, breaths life into it. So those are
my thoughts on that. Hey. Next one, Tom Sandoval and
Ariano Maddox's house going on the market after long battle.
This is reported by Reality Tea the house is going
(13:52):
on the market. Tom shared, we're selling the house, getting
it ready. He confirmed, announcing that his girlfriend and he
will be moving in together. So look, I think the
battle about the house is twofold number one. Financially, it
is an investment, right and they both want to get
(14:14):
more out than they put in Number two. It definitely
became a bit of a pissing match. Right, I'm going
to stay here, you have to do this. I mean,
their whole situation was wild. I have often said this,
if my husband and I got in a fight, there's
not a house big enough that we could stay under
the same roof during that fight, Like, you just need space.
(14:35):
So actually living there after a breakup and splitting floors
and rooms and timing not to see each other, you know,
I don't really believe that either, But I think the
healthiest thing for them to both move on, and it's
the healthiest thing for them to untangle whatever the finances
are so they can get out of it and move
on with their lives. And even though they're both moving on,
(14:57):
actually we haven't heard much about Arianna and her boyfriendly,
so that's kind of an interesting thing. I have to
dig into that. I think his name is Daniel, right,
if they're still together, but it is time for the
house to go and for them to separate. And if
you're the new girlfriend or the new boyfriend, do you
really want to be living in the shadow of the
old I think that's super uncomfortable and unhealthy to start
(15:19):
a relationship with. So good for them if they're doing it.
And you know, I think that that's one thing the
fans really didn't understand. The fans are like, I don't
understand how you could be so silly as to not
get out of there and find a way out of there.
There's always a way out. And even if one person,
if you couldn't sell it right away, because you know,
(15:39):
they're taxes and finances and whatever, they have somebody, you know,
you move out, you still get out. So yes, but
I guess then again, pr side, it made more drama
for the show. How do you make a storyline around
two people that are broken up and supposedly won't interact
with each other. They still ended up doing scenes together.
(16:00):
They so they said they wouldn't do scenes together. That
was per ariana and but yet the large chunk of
the show was them having to navigate around the house.
So it worked for storyline, It created drama, It got
people's tongues wagging off air and on the on the blogs,
so you know, again it still worked. But I do
(16:21):
think people thought it was silly and they're ready for
everybody to move on. And yeah, let's not forget that
the more the house was shown, the more drama there
was around the house, it could drive up the price
of the house. I don't I don't know how much,
but we've seen a lot of celebrities houses go up
(16:44):
in value because of it. So you know, if some
Bravo fan or or some Airbnb person is like, oh,
I want to have the the Bravo Tom and Ariana
drama house come and stay in it for the weekend, Yeah,
why wouldn't it, that would definitely drive the price up.
So they're smart marketers, these people, Okay. Lala Kent shares
(17:05):
details of her past relationship with Julian Sensley. This also
is reality blurb. Lala Kent talks about Britney cart Right
hooking up with Julian shortly after separating from Jax Taylor.
Lala says she and Julian hooked at first, and she
was the one to bring Julian around the group. That's
how he became friends with Jackson Brittany. Lala ended things
(17:27):
with Randall. She and Julian would communicate and sometimes make out.
Lala ended up doing a background check on Julian and
the results made hers step back because they were not
in alignment. Wow, okay, and then Jax was pissed that
Brittany hooked up with Julian, but then Julian because Julian
(17:48):
and Jack's were friends, so then he stops seeing Brittany. Okay,
my goodness. Los Angeles is a really big city. Why
is it that this group of people in particular just
date each other and friends. I mean, there's a pretty
big pool out here, and there's a ton of people
that want to be on TV, and there's people from
(18:08):
all over the world that come to LA to get
that break, and I'm surprised that they just keep having
these same people and dating the friends, you know that saying,
don't fish in the company pond, like stretch out a
little bit. It's a really big place. But then let's
be smart, and obviously the storyline comes first, and these
(18:29):
people live for the storyline, so there's probably a little
bit more drama attached to the fact that they dated
the same person than somebody knew out there in LA. Again,
I know, I always give Lalla props because I think
she's smart cookie for the way that she markets, So
I'm a Lalla fan in that way. Rachel Levis's lawyer
(18:56):
hits back at Tom Sandoval's lawsuit. This also from Reality Tea,
which I will actually give a nice shout out to
because they did respond to me and put the retraction
in also so or the quote. I'll explain it in
a moment. So recently Tom hopped on his podcast and
dropped some new allegations about Rachel. Her team came to
(19:17):
my team and basically offered to drop all the charges
against me if I were to blame the way the
affair was found out on NBC Universal. Tom stated, So
Tom would have to allegedly claim that NBC somehow put
him up to it. Now in Rachel's attorneys, Brian Friedman responded,
calling it an outward lie and fabrication and ridiculousness, ending
(19:40):
by saying, once again, Tom Sandival cannot be trusted and
the reasons are glaring. He also said, Tom Sandaval, who
I legally and secretly recorded Rachel Levis in a sexually
compromising situation without her knowledge or consent, while cheating on
his girlfriend. You know, Look, so this happened in live
time for me, right, so we see Tom's ridiculousness. He
(20:01):
was quiet the whole time Rachel was on her podcast,
and then when she goes off, you know, he gets
on his to speak again. I don't know if that's
a coincidence or not. Just to put it out there,
Rachel could be a guest here any time to refute
anything that she wants to refute, so you know, it's
not like she can't speak. And obviously through the press
and through her attorneys, she can speak, which is what happened.
(20:22):
So we got the we saw the reporting that he
said that, and I immediately reached out to the attorneys,
and the attorneys immediately gave us a statement which I
then sent to publications and some bloggers, and the attorneys
were adamant that no such thing had happened. And you know,
Tom doesn't lie in a puddle of credibility, does he,
(20:42):
because you know, first of all, he filmed somebody without
their consent. Second of all, he continues to lie, tell
us all sorts of interesting stories, tell us he's going
to retaliate against Rachel, which he did and is. And
the attorney he had when he said he was going
to file against Ariana, which taking the people out of
it was actually not a dumb move. There's two ways
(21:06):
that it works in the lawsuit, either he teams up
with Ariana or he goes against Ariana and separates himself. Right,
So the what the attorney, his attorney, I guess now
fired suggested was not a not a bad move legally,
So for Tom's public image, that was not nice, right,
He'd already shot on his girlfriend and now he was
(21:30):
going to do it again. So and he took the
he ate. So he backtracked and did he really fire
that attorney? Yes, it did. It's interesting too because while
that was happening in lifetime, he said he'd fired his
attorney and removed himself from the situation that he it
was the attorney's idea. All through that time that attorney
was still on staff. And the reason I know that
(21:50):
is because when you're in a lawsuit, an attorney has
to notify the attorneys on the other side that you're
not still involved. So there was quite a period of
time after he made the claim before that attorney did
actually come off with the paperwork and notify Rachel's side.
So I found that very interesting. Also, I love the
legal stuff behind it is fascinating to me. So anyways,
(22:14):
at the end of the day, Tom is just trying
to make a headline, and he's still trying to hurt Rachel.
I don't know why, you know, what, you were in
a relationship and his little girlfriend that then comes out
and bashes on Rachel. The guy your dating was not
only fifty percent of that relationship, but he was also
the one that was in the long term partnership. So
(22:36):
you know, before you're going to call names, that's somebody
you've never met and put blame at someone you've never met,
you might want to look at the guy you're sleeping
next to. At the end of the day, I don't
fault any of them. They're young people. Well Tom's not young,
but they're young, and they had relationships. They made mistakes,
they made poor judgment. Move on. I don't know why
she's still talking about it. I don't know why. I mean,
I do know why. You know that Tom's still bringing
(22:59):
up Rachel because people want to hear about Tom and Rachel. Weirdly,
as much as people hated them what they did, people
were weirdly rooting for them, if not just to hate
them being together. So that whole part is rather fascinating.
So at the end of the day, his quote. The
quote that Tom gave on his podcast was to get viewers'
(23:21):
attention and headlines, and it was completely not true. Within
within hours of us hearing of it, I contacted the attorneys,
and the attorney's issue a statement, and I gave that
statement vehemently refuting it and telling the truth. You can't
trust an established liar. So there's that. The other thing
that I find personally fascinating and it's something for me
(23:45):
that I'm learning to navigate or which is different. You know,
when I started in PR their work bloggers, and there's
two kinds. There are the people that are really trying
to be credible and they build their headlines, you know,
they build great content. But I have relationships with them
where I'll call and say, you know, here's the facts,
here's the lawyer's statement. Whether you posted about the first
(24:08):
half or not, here's our side in case you do,
and they are respectful and we have great you know,
cambaraderie is far it professionally. And then there's the other side.
There's the other side who I will not name, but
they're trying so hard to be insiders and they're trying
so hard to find their space that they just interpret
(24:29):
things on the negative side because they know that the
negative side gets more press. So in this statement, there's
a particular person that analyzed it and decided that even
with the statement with the lawyer saying what they said,
that there was more to the story and he believes
that Rachel was gonna drop the lawsuit. Well, I can
(24:51):
tell you there's no truth to that whatsoever. And these
these people that are just trying to make their own
name by being negative and controversial, you know whatever, If
that's what floats people's boats, good for them, right, And
there are people that ride the negative wave for their
own views and clicks, and they're not even interested in
(25:14):
reporting truth. The funniest one was this morning where a woman,
so this happened I think almost a week ago, write
this whole Tom Common and our response, and this woman
put out something last night that she had the tea,
and you know the tea was basically she had the
private tea from the attorneys. At the end of the day.
It was the same statement that I'd given out. So
(25:35):
that was kind of funny, but pop props to her
forgetting attention. But then she decided that the attorneys didn't
write it that I wrote it. No basis for this.
Her explanation was that I had sent the quote. Well,
that's my job as a publicist is to communicate between
the various parties, So I didn't find that quite funny.
I can assure you I did not write that quote.
(25:57):
The attorneys wrote that quote, and those attorneys were were
vehemently denying and immediately said that there was zero truth
to that. So you got to take it with a
grain assault. And for all of you lovely followers that
are interested in the Bravosphere and all these shows, which
I know means so much to you and that you
really love and love to engage with people, just remember
(26:21):
even though they might be entertaining, some of those those
bloggers and writers, you know they they're making it up
for content, and so just keep it, you know, with
a grain assault. It's fun to enjoy something, it's fun
to get in them the conspiracy theories, it's fun to
play along, but just remember that they're not a news
source and check out who's really being credible and trying
(26:44):
to report both sides and remaining neutral, and then watch
the ones that are just one sided. Now, if you
love the people that just hate on somebody join in,
good for you, but just realize, you know, it's not
necessarily the truth. So that's my kind of personal take
on what happened with this last little bit of scandal,
and I think that wraps up the major headlines for
(27:07):
this week. So hope you enjoyed it and have a
great week.
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